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Title: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: figgs on March 31, 2008, 06:00:08 PM


 ;D ;D
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Post by: Moosejay on March 31, 2008, 06:01:25 PM
NO respect for the presidential office.

Disgraceful.

Drunk ass, hot dog eating baseball 'fans'.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: tommywishbone on March 31, 2008, 06:06:32 PM
bush is a mass-murdering freak. he orders his war machine to incinerate child while they sleep. he's a sickness. he's a coward.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on March 31, 2008, 06:10:54 PM
The people should show more respect. No decisions of such magnitude you refer to are made solely by one man or woman.
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Post by: SuperNatural on March 31, 2008, 06:11:39 PM
bush is a mass-murdering freak. he orders his war machine to incinerate child while they sleep. he's a sickness. he's a coward.


Do you really think that Bush is the person to blame for that?  Or possibly the majority of the defense department and his cabinet?  
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on March 31, 2008, 06:15:05 PM
Good question.

All is done for the greater good.

"For the good of the many, the few must suffer..."
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Post by: whateva on March 31, 2008, 06:17:49 PM

Do you really think that Bush is the person to blame for that?  Or possibly the majority of the defense department and his cabinet?  
He is in charge ,he is the President ,the CEO,the Chief, the Coach ....Who are you going to blame? , Me
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Post by: Pollux on March 31, 2008, 06:18:58 PM
No surprise there.
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Post by: whateva on March 31, 2008, 06:20:39 PM
Good question.

All is done for the greater good.

"For the good of few, many must suffer..."
FIXED :D
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on March 31, 2008, 06:21:55 PM
He is in charge ,he is the President ,the CEO,the Chief, the Coach ....Who are you going to blame? , Me

The syndrome of "Blaming" should be erased as a practice for all time. It results in no solutions whatsoever, as you know.

"You are a product of your actions, and your path is directed by you"
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Post by: Luv2Hurt on March 31, 2008, 06:32:57 PM
NO respect for the presidential office.

Disgraceful.

Drunk ass, hot dog eating baseball 'fans'.

The people are becoming sick of it all.  Glad they let him and his party know how they felt.  If another republican gets in and drags this war out for much longer there will be a lot of pissed off MF's  Enough of the BS
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Post by: TrapsMcLats on March 31, 2008, 06:36:57 PM
This is what makes the idea of america great.  no retribution for hating on those in power. 
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on March 31, 2008, 06:38:45 PM
Sick of what?

Generally and fundamentally, nothing really ever changes-regardless of administration. Things are great...the media tells us they are not, and those who are of the inability to think independently follow the media's lead like lemmings.

Folks should learn to govern themselves, depend less on the machine.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: figgs on March 31, 2008, 06:40:43 PM
We deserve Bush thanks to the average American.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Luv2Hurt on March 31, 2008, 06:49:58 PM
Sick of what?

Generally and fundamentally, nothing really ever changes-regardless of administration. Things are great...the media tells us they are not, and those who are of the inability to think independently follow the media's lead like lemmings.

Folks should learn to govern themselves, depend less on the machine.

Sick of a war that is a waste of lives and money, nothing has changed over there.  Sick of a messed up ecomomy and high unemployment where people cant make a living wage.  Sick of out of control spending and a huge national debt.  Sick of helping eveyone else except the people of this country.

Govern themselves?

Not everyone has your out look that things are great here.  Keep pretending all is well.  It maybe you are fine now, does not mean all is well everywhere.  Has nothing to do with the media, real people are telling these stories.  Stay in your littlle world.
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Post by: Matt C on March 31, 2008, 06:54:02 PM
NO respect for the presidential office.

Disgraceful.

Drunk ass, hot dog eating baseball 'fans'.

Oh, so just like your students must automatically give you respect just because you are their professor, US citizens must, sheep-like, have respect for the presidential office?  You promoting this type of thinking is the only thing that is disgraceful.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on March 31, 2008, 06:55:34 PM
Oh, so just like your students must automatically give you respect just because you are their professor, US citizens must, sheep-like, have respect for the presidential office?  You promoting this type of thinking is the only thing that is disgraceful.

Try some anger management, genius.
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Post by: SirTraps on March 31, 2008, 07:01:00 PM
Good question.

All is done for the greater good.

"For the PROFITS OF THE OIL COMPANIES, the IRAQI CHILDREN MUST suffer..."

   Youre a dumbass Moosejaw  ::)
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Post by: sgt. d on March 31, 2008, 07:02:52 PM
haha i love it. lets pray we dont get mccain or bush brother.
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Post by: Moosejay on March 31, 2008, 07:03:09 PM
If being a dumbass means my name is not 'Sirtraps'...then yes, I am the biggest dumbass there is.

Peace :)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Rampage on March 31, 2008, 07:03:58 PM
moosejay ive changed my opinion on you

Try not being patriotic to a FAULT....and OPEN YOUR EYES
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on March 31, 2008, 07:04:55 PM
haha i love it. lets pray we dont get mccain or bush brother.

And if we do, guess what? Absolutely very little will change in your or my lives because of it. Build your own reality, Sarge!
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: sgt. d on March 31, 2008, 07:07:04 PM
And if we do, guess what? Absolutely very little will change in your or my lives because of it. Build your own reality, Sarge!

Yes its time for a change :)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on March 31, 2008, 07:07:13 PM
moosejay ive changed my opinion on you

Try not being patriotic to a FAULT....and OPEN YOUR EYES

Your opinion is your opinion, and I respect that.

I don't know you, so how could your opinion matter to me? Impossible.

I am a jingoist...if you know what that is, you will understand my stance and probably be comfortable with it as my decision.

BTW, don't let a few words out of so many millions sway your opinions and thoughts so easily.... :)peace to all
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Post by: OTHstrong on March 31, 2008, 07:08:02 PM
And if we do, guess what? Absolutely very little will change in your or my lives because of it. Build your own reality, Sarge!
I agree, nothing will change
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on March 31, 2008, 07:09:38 PM
Yes its time for a change :)

Its always time for a change.

Just like in the stock market...ever notice how the pundits like to say..."in these uncertain times"?

Well,...when are they CERTAIN?

They are not.

All things are always in flux.

The man who won the lotto today will tell you Bush is great.

The man who lost his job today will tell you Bush sucks.

Check your own personal lot for answers.
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Post by: Bast000 on March 31, 2008, 07:09:46 PM
Obama is a long legged Mac Daddy!
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on March 31, 2008, 07:11:17 PM
Haha...that's funny.

Hey, in all seriousness, what the hell is a MacDaddy???
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Matt C on March 31, 2008, 07:14:58 PM
Try some anger management, genius.

I'm just saying that respect is earned, not given.  I'm not sure of your age, but historically respect is something which people of authority seem to think is automatically guaranteed to them merely by being authority figures.  This is the same type of thinking which has resulted in many women sticking with abusive husbands for years because they were trained to believe that honouring their husband comes before their own self worth.  It is a disgusting and dangerous way to think.

If you were my professor, I would give you respect and address you by your title if I felt you deserved that.  If you truly are a man worthy of respect, you can guarantee I would give you it.

By the way, what your students really think of you will come out anonymously anyway.  For example, on www.ratemyprofessors.com .  What is the point of being given fake respect by your students if they don't genuinely respect you?

And if we do, guess what? Absolutely very little will change in your or my lives because of it. Build your own reality, Sarge!

Actually lots will change.  Bush and his elite friends only have so much power because we give it to them.  If we all revolted against the elite, they would stand no chance.  And this will eventually happen.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on March 31, 2008, 07:20:35 PM
I am likely a member of what you call the elite.

I chose my lot in this life.

It was not and is not easy.

I don't care to be levied a higher tax to share with those who choose not to excel.

I am 44.

I competed in bb for 25 years.

I get along with all types of people.

I own a chiropractic business and a marketing company.

I have taught college on and off for years.

The students are expected to give respect off the bat, earned or not.

They are not my peers or my equal in the educational forum, that is why they come to learn in my class...to get some of what I know.

Matt, I am a jingoist...so now you will better understand my position.

Best,

Mike
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Post by: whateva on March 31, 2008, 08:03:16 PM
I am likely a member of what you call the elite.

I chose my lot in this life.

It was not and is not easy.

I don't care to be levied a higher tax to share with those who choose not to excel.

I am 44.

I competed in bb for 25 years.

I get along with all types of people.

I own a chiropractic business and a marketing company.

I have taught college on and off for years.


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Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on March 31, 2008, 08:16:39 PM

 ;D ;D


He threw the baseball better than any other prez.. EVER.

Ya know why? 

Cause he's the fucking man!!!! .. that's why!!!

Now why don't you guys stop crying, take off your dresses, and end this little tea party.

;D
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: allpumpedup on March 31, 2008, 08:18:51 PM
I'm not the biggest Bush fan, but I hate all you Muslim freaks.  Your religion is bogus.  Not that I'm a religious guy myself, but your bullshit beliefs take the cake. 
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Tombo on March 31, 2008, 08:22:40 PM
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AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA OMG best subtle comeback i've seen in ages


but seriously bush doesn't deserve respect, not anymore, although i would still be polite to him in person to set the record straight, i'm not a rude bastard for no reason, i have no personal vendettas.
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Post by: CARTEL on March 31, 2008, 08:38:46 PM

He threw the baseball better than any other prez.. EVER.

Ya know why? 

Cause he's the fucking man!!!! .. that's why!!!

Now why don't you guys stop crying, take off your dresses, and end this little tea party.

;D


LOL
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: TechnoViking on March 31, 2008, 08:45:40 PM
We deserve Bush thanks to the average American.

Don't be so harsh on your fellow man, we are being brainwashed and most of us don't have the capactiy to understand it yet...We(the human race) are all part of a system that is run by some very Evil Bloodlines...One day we will move to the next dimension(and dance) and these bloodlines will be exposed and left behind...


Tviking
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Post by: bigj2k3 on March 31, 2008, 08:47:23 PM
Yes its time for a change :)

Right change like the racist Osama and his pastor.
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Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on March 31, 2008, 08:56:09 PM
bush is a mass-murdering freak. he orders his war machine to incinerate child while they sleep. he's a sickness. he's a coward.

What is cool here is that President Bush would smile at this comment and shake your hand, after all freedom enables you to say this. If you made this statement in Sadams country, you would have been put to death.

Ain't America great.

The Beef
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Marty Champions on March 31, 2008, 09:16:26 PM
americans are too stupid to unite to put together any movement for a good change for truth

and too lazy

or dont care

only care when its convienient like at a baseball stadium then make there boo's so they feel better
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: CARTEL on March 31, 2008, 09:17:46 PM
americans are too stupid to unite to put together any movement for a good change for truth

and too lazy

or dont care

only care when its convienient like at a baseball stadium then make there boo's so they feel better

What would be a good change?
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Post by: jonsande on March 31, 2008, 09:24:27 PM
What is cool here is that President Bush would smile at this comment and shake your hand, after all freedom inables you to say this. If you made this statement in Sadams country, you would have been put to death.

Ain't America great.

The Beef

The above description of 'greatness' you provided just described the entire civilized world.  Very interesting how the less cultured of my fellow countrymen seem to think that we're so unique in this way. 

Actually, the most standout thing making us unique for a western country is the fact that we have more people here who believe in creationism fairy tales than acknowledge the truth that is evolution. 

The idea of America is great, my friend; but, unfortunately its current government is not.
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Post by: Croatch on March 31, 2008, 09:27:14 PM
Bush likes bombing brown people and making money from the war...can you really fault him? ;D  Those are some pretty cool hobbies.

The day I'd join the military to fight for our "truthful" country, is a day that would never come..haha  When I was 18 and uninformed, I thought of joining the Marines...today, knowing how full of shit our country is with their motives...never.  They're missing out too.  I'm pretty sick at COD4..>BOOM!
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Post by: gordiano on March 31, 2008, 09:34:20 PM
Bush likes bombing brown people and making money from the war...can you really fault him? ;D  Those are some pretty cool hobbies.

The day I'd join the military to fight for our "truthful" country, is a day that would never come..haha  When I was 18 and uninformed, I thought of joining the Marines...today, knowing how full of shit our country is with their motives...never.  They're missing out too. I'm pretty sick at COD4..>BOOM!

I'm about to go on and kick some ass right now....
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Post by: Marty Champions on March 31, 2008, 09:35:49 PM
What would be a good change?

someone like daddywaddy laying down the brutal truth

getting it ALL out on the table

calling a neggar a black everyone is fair game to insults so cut out this tip toeng crap about being of a different race

letting the public know that all there drugs they prescribe patients are heavely pushed by the pharmaceutical companies and do more harm then good and create a dependancy, antibiotics make for worse health

raising the question how come the superior feul source was bought out in the 70's by the rockefellars, and that weve been lied to and screwed over

changing the youth education system because its a waste of some very productive first 18 years of peoples lives, get them to learn the basics at a young age, get a kid out in the feild make him learn that food doesnt grow in a grocery store thats all they need then they can go into specialized teaching from there, dont kill kids minds on getting them to hate learning and with too much homework

kill this overly policed system, there should be more developed land without things to sell but more nature paths and eco friendly stuff where people can get pvssy without having to buy something at a bar at night, let them be free to roam outside and be whatever and make people feel comfortable to be outside in large gatherings enjoying nature with places to walk things to do for free , tennis, baseball, basketball not enough organized free sports. a car should simply not start and have a breathalizer installed so if they are not drunk they can drive


i could come up with millions of ideas im just rambling but the education really needs to change


Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Croatch on March 31, 2008, 09:37:45 PM
I'm about to go on and kick some ass right now....
Are you on Xbox or PS3?
I'm on Xbox
Gamertag: Vegas Trash
haha
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: gordiano on March 31, 2008, 09:38:24 PM
Are you on Xbox or PS3?
I'm on Xbox
Gamertag: Vegas Trash
haha

360. Gordiano is mine.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Croatch on March 31, 2008, 09:40:21 PM
360. Gordiano is mine.
I'll add you.  I play Free-for-All...what do you play?
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: gordiano on March 31, 2008, 09:41:34 PM
I'll add you.  I play Free-for-All...what do you play?

Mercenary Death Match.


I'm a decent Sniper.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: CARTEL on March 31, 2008, 09:42:52 PM

im just rambling


You got that right.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: sgt. d on March 31, 2008, 11:18:41 PM
Right change like the racist Osama and his pastor.

osama bin laden has a pastor ???
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Matt C on March 31, 2008, 11:24:04 PM
Gamertag: Vegas Trash

Hi Craig Titus.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: phyxsius on April 01, 2008, 12:52:53 AM
You can see when Bush was walking to the pitch the ball, his expression changed.. I bet in his mind he must be thinking "Sons of bitches.. Can't wait to nuke these fools together with the stadium.."
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Tre on April 01, 2008, 01:55:16 AM

His approval rating is actually UP right now.  He's up to 24% from 19%. 

Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 03:48:57 AM
His approval rating is actually UP right now.  He's up to 24% from 19%. 



And congress has, what, about 13%?
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: m8 on April 01, 2008, 03:52:11 AM
What if the player didn't agree to shake his hand ?

"Zimmerman" ? Sounds like a jew with a cut penis  :)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 03:52:24 AM
.

Your name speaks volumes about you....
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 01, 2008, 06:37:40 AM
The sad thing is that half that stadium was probably filled with street clothed military and secret service personel acting as baseball fans.  They were probably the only ones cheering.  Bush hurried the hell up too.  He ran out, threw the pitch and ran off.  What a pussy.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Purge_WTF on April 01, 2008, 07:00:02 AM
NO respect for the presidential office.

Disgraceful.

Drunk ass, hot dog eating baseball 'fans'.

  Want some cookies to go along with that Kool-Aid?
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 07:07:00 AM
Moosejay I completely agree with everything you have said. I think we share almost the same exact ploitical views. It's nice to see some are still free thinkers and not swayed by the media or public opinion.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Mark Kerr on April 01, 2008, 07:09:58 AM
Sick of a war that is a waste of lives and money, nothing has changed over there.  Sick of a messed up ecomomy and high unemployment where people cant make a living wage.  Sick of out of control spending and a huge national debt.  Sick of helping eveyone else except the people of this country.

Govern themselves?

Not everyone has your out look that things are great here.  Keep pretending all is well.  It maybe you are fine now, does not mean all is well everywhere.  Has nothing to do with the media, real people are telling these stories.  Stay in your littlle world.

I agree with this post.
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Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 07:15:59 AM
Not everyone has your out look that things are great here.  Keep pretending all is well.  It maybe you are fine now, does not mean all is well everywhere.  Has nothing to do with the media, real people are telling these stories.  Stay in your littlle world.


Ummmmm sorry I guess I missed the last time everything was perfect in the world ::)



Personally I have not been able to find a steady job for months and in my case everything is in turmoil right now but through and through I stand by my country and support it. You have to remember things could always be worse and people in the USA don't realize how good they have it. I think you are the epitome of the word PESSIMIST.
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Post by: dr.chimps on April 01, 2008, 07:22:17 AM

Ummmmm sorry I guess I missed the last time everything was perfect in the world ::)



Personally I have not been able to find a steady job for months and in my case everything is in turmoil right now but through and through I stand by my country and support it. You have to remember things could always be worse and people in the USA don't realize how good they have it. I think you are the epitome of the word PESSIMEST.
LOL. PESSIMIST.  ;)

Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Mark Kerr on April 01, 2008, 07:22:58 AM

Ummmmm sorry I guess I missed the last time everything was perfect in the world ::)



Personally I have not been able to find a steady job for months and in my case everything is in turmoil right now but through and through I stand by my country and support it. You have to remember things could always be worse and people in the USA don't realize how good they have it. I think you are the epitome of the word PESSIMEST.

Look what has happened to this country over the last eight years. Think what it will be like in another eight years.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 07:35:43 AM
LOL. PESSIMIST.  ;)




LOL my bad, spell check didn't pick it up though. I thought something looked a little weird but then again I just smoked a bowl too. ;D
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 07:38:35 AM
Look what has happened to this country over the last eight years. Think what it will be like in another eight years.


Please elaborate ::)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 07:41:51 AM
Moosejay I completely agree with everything you have said. I think we share almost the same exact ploitical views. It's nice to see some are still free thinkers and not swayed by the media or public opinion.

Hey, that's great, Mike!

I still respect the opinions of others. I just think folks should try to think on their own...that's how this great country was built.

Responsibility.

Self reliance.

Be accountable for YOUR OWN successes or failures.

I am just kind of surprised, this being a bb board...and that bb  takes the utmost in the above-mentioned traits to be successful in it.

Just apply what you practice in bb, and you wont really care who is in office.

You will be your own self-government! :)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Mark Kerr on April 01, 2008, 07:43:33 AM

Please elaborate ::)

Are you serious?

Turn on the news, dipshit.

www.cnn.com
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 07:45:28 AM
Are you serious?

Turn on the news, dipshit.

www.cnn.com


You just proved my point ;D
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 07:45:33 AM
I agree with this post.

 I respectfully disagree, sans your insults, friend. Peace :)

BTW, I have made my world a successful and happy one. I have had rough times, too. But the spirit that has built this great country is within me. You can have this, too.

If your life were not in dire straights (Don't know if it is), would you hold your views that things are so rough here? Can you be honest about this?

"There are no victims, only volunteers"-Lee Milteer  
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 07:46:23 AM

Ummmmm sorry I guess I missed the last time everything was perfect in the world ::)



Personally I have not been able to find a steady job for months and in my case everything is in turmoil right now but through and through I stand by my country and support it. You have to remember things could always be worse and people in the USA don't realize how good they have it. I think you are the epitome of the word PESSIMIST.

I concur, Michael.

I wish goodness for everyone.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 07:47:49 AM
Look what has happened to this country over the last eight years. Think what it will be like in another eight years.

Many extremely great things have happened, too. Be fair, now.

And watch out for the self-fulfilling prophecies...if you see things being bad FOR YOU in eight years, then they will be.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 07:49:41 AM
Hey, that's great, Mike!

I still respect the opinions of others. I just think folks should try to think on their own...that's how this great country was built.

Responsibility.

Self reliance.

Be accountable for YOUR OWN successes or failures.

I am just kind of surprised, this being a bb board...and that bb  takes the utmost in the above-mentioned traits to be successful in it.

Just apply what you practice in bb, and you wont really care who is in office.

You will be your own self-government! :)


I don't try to sway others to my views but I try to explain to them that there is way more to the world then what you see on the news, read in the paper or hear people talking about in the workplace. I often question why they have such negative feelings towards certain people or groups and come to find they have no solid basis behind their views.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 07:50:59 AM

You just proved my point ;D

Indeed.

You know, America is still the greatest in the world.

Everyone knows this in their heads. They are very happy to be here. If not...then please offer SOLUTIONS to your quandarys.

Yes, America is still the greatest in the world...but we seem to be running into the A-Listers who make it that way with less and less frequency.

So, many of the innovators and trail blazers carry more and more of the load in helping America lead the world.

Peace, Moosie
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Mark Kerr on April 01, 2008, 07:53:02 AM
Did you know food sales are down 2%, and the cost of food is up all over the world?

What does that tell you?

People are cutting back on what they eat.

We are not in good times.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/25/news/international/food_prices.ap/index.htm
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: A2daMIR on April 01, 2008, 07:53:37 AM
The people should show more respect. No decisions of such magnitude you refer to are made solely by one man or woman.

Yeah he should bring his entire cabinet so they can get booed too...
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 07:54:07 AM

I don't try to sway others to my views but I try to explain to them that there is way more to the world then what you see on the news, read in the paper or hear people talking about in the workplace. I often question why they have such negative feelings towards certain people or groups and come to find they have no solid basis behind their views.

Mike: I always have a ear for a fair argument or complaint. However, I always ask for a viable SOLUTION to the complaint, and not just to hear, "Bush sucks".

Believe me, for those who comport themselves that way, well...they ain't baing asked to give too many lectures at the local University :)

BTW...congratulations to you for keeping your chin up...despite being out of work for a spell.

You are a great American.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 07:56:08 AM
Did you know food sales are down 2%, and the cost of food is up all over the world?

What does that tell you?

People are cutting back on what they eat.

We are not in good times.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/25/news/international/food_prices.ap/index.htm

Mark, I don't mean to be funny, but, at least in places like USA, we could all stand to lose a little weight! :)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 08:00:48 AM
Mike: I always have a ear for a fair argument or complaint. However, I always ask for a viable SOLUTION to the complaint, and not just to hear, "Bush sucks".

Believe me, for those who comport themselves that way, well...they ain't baing asked to give too many lectures at the local University :)

BTW...congratulations to you for keeping your chin up...despite being out of work for a spell.

You are a great American.


More often then not that's the end of the conversation ;D



Oh and by the way, I have figured that if things aren't on the upside for me within the next few months I am seriously considering joing the USMC because it's always been a dream of mine and I figure I would rather be part of the solution then sit back and complain about my situation.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:00:59 AM
  Want some cookies to go along with that Kool-Aid?

I just bought 8 boxes of Girl Scouts Thin Mints from one of my patient's kids-Yum!
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Mark Kerr on April 01, 2008, 08:02:34 AM
Mark, I don't mean to be funny, but, at least in places like USA, we could all stand to lose a little weight! :)

There are some fat people here.

But, there are people alot of people hurting in this country right now.

The current administration has done nothing about.

Just read the storys.

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/news/0803/gallery.real_stories/2.html
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:04:09 AM

More often then not that's the end of the conversation ;D



Oh and by the way, I have figured that if things aren't on the upside for me within the next few months I am seriously considering joing the USMC because it's always been a dream of mine and I figure I would rather be part of the solution then sit back and complain about my situation.

You know, Mike, If I hadn't done the 9 year college thing, my alternative was always the armed services. I think it is a noble and gratifying course for the right person to take. I wish you best in your lot. The ultimate sign of one who enjoys control in their life is to take action and not complain.

Its easy to join in the swirling pool of discontent which has so many in it. It seems to make it 'okay' to be mediocre or less...just play the blame game....  

Mike
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:07:10 AM
There are some fat people here.

But, there are people alot of people hurting in this country right now.

The current administration has done nothing about.

Just read the storys.

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/news/0803/gallery.real_stories/2.html

Mark...thorughout history...there has ALWAYS been people hurting in this country.

There always will be.

I appreciate your words.

There is no doubt some truth in them.

But, while blaming an administration, I always also like to look at the paths that the sufferers have taken for themselves. The choices they have made, and sometimes continue to make, that continue to thicken their perilous lot.

Its always a matter of control, or lack of it. Well, almost always!
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on April 01, 2008, 08:07:27 AM
Good question.

All is done for the greater good.

"For the good of the many, the few must suffer..."
oh brother. ::)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:08:58 AM
Are you suffering, Squad? If so, I am sorry to hear that.

Best to you, my friend.

Mike
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on April 01, 2008, 08:10:41 AM
Are you suffering, Squad? If so, I am sorry to hear that.

Best to you, my friend.

Mike
sounds like you're the one suffering from delusions if you actually believe that bullshit.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Stavios on April 01, 2008, 08:10:41 AM
Good question.

All is done for the greater good.

"For the good of the many, the few must suffer..."

Ok so if for the good of the whole Canada population, we would need to kill your whole family.

it would be OK right ?
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: local hero on April 01, 2008, 08:14:59 AM
as an outsider looking in,,, bush has to be the thickest pres you lot have had in a good while, total embarassment everytime he opens his mouth
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 08:15:12 AM
You know, Mike, If I hadn't done the 9 year college thing, my alternative was always the armed services. I think it is a noble and gratifying course for the right person to take. I wish you best in your lot. The ultimate sign of one who enjoys control in their life is to take action and not complain.

Its easy to join in the swirling pool of discontent which has so many in it. It seems to make it 'okay' to be mediocre or less...just play the blame game....  

Mike


Yeah when I was in my teens I got into some trouble and ended up in a Juvenile Bootcamp run almost exclusively by ex-marines and at first I thought it was hell and by the end I didn't want to go home (seriously I cried and asked them to let me stay ;D). People who think those in the armed services are all sheep are very very wrong.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on April 01, 2008, 08:16:42 AM
as an outsider looking in,,, bush has to be the thickest pres you lot have had in a good while, total embarassment everytime he opens his mouth
he is a total embarassment to this country.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:17:23 AM
Ok so if for the good of the whole Canada population, we would need to kill your whole family.

it would be OK right ?

Umm, why would you say that? My family? How would that help Canada? Does Canada need this kind of help? I don't understand.

Stavios, you have always been civil to me. I am surprised....
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:18:18 AM

Yeah when I was in my teens I got into some trouble and ended up in a Juvenile Bootcamp run almost exclusively by ex-marines and at first I thought it was hell and by the end I didn't want to go home (seriously I cried and asked them to let me stay ;D). People who think those in the armed services are all sheep are very very wrong.

Ha! Awesome story! You are a great American.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on April 01, 2008, 08:19:10 AM
hahahahaa, i loove the "i didn't attack you so why all the animosity" posts from "moosejay". ;D
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:19:53 AM
he is a total embarassment to this country.

Okay, given that, who would NOT be an embarassment to the US?

For some, unfortunately, I think ANYONE in office will be an embarassment for them.

Could it be that folks are practicing something called reflection?
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: calmus on April 01, 2008, 08:22:19 AM
Okay, given that, who would NOT be an embarassment to the US?

For some, unfortunately, I think ANYONE in office will be an embarassment for them.

Could it be that folks are practicing something called reflection?

blah ... blah ... blah

do you actually believe the shit you spew, or are you just going through the motions like most old dudes?
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:23:06 AM
hahahahaa, i loove the "i didn't attack you so why all the animosity" posts from "moosejay". ;D

Squad...serious post here:

I have been fat before, when I got sick.

I remember I felt losuy about almost everything, and I cast my gaze asunder at almost anything I had previously looked upon as being good. Thankfully, I regained my health and returned to my former, 'pretty good muscularity and lean physique'.

When you take care of yourself, and enjoy great health, everything looks better :)

Peace, 'Everybody's Favorite All American', Mike 'Moosejay' Dusa
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: nder98 on April 01, 2008, 08:23:11 AM
I really cant wait until that asshole is out of office, the guy reaaally fucked the economy not to mention sending all the jobs to India.. Hopefully, a new pres can start using our own natural resources to bring the fucking price of gas down..
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Mark Kerr on April 01, 2008, 08:23:18 AM
Mark...thorughout history...there has ALWAYS been people hurting in this country.

There always will be.

I appreciate your words.

There is no doubt some truth in them.

But, while blaming an administration, I always also like to look at the paths that the sufferers have taken for themselves. The choices they have made, and sometimes continue to make, that continue to thicken their perilous lot.

Its always a matter of control, or lack of it. Well, almost always!

The American people are starting to suffer because we are paying for a war.

Look at gas prices, the rising cost of food and utilities. The unemployment.

This is the current administrations doing. NOT the American people.

Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:25:17 AM
The American people are starting to suffer because we are paying for a war.

Look at gas prices, the rising cost of food and utilities. The unemployment.

This is the current administrations doing. NOT the American people.



Well, hmmm, sure. Some of that may be true.

But the American people elected the administration, thus, it is a reflection of them.

Ultimately, the people will have to learn that THEY hold the true power here.

The only time I blame is when I blame myself, which is ALL THE TIME for my successes and failures.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on April 01, 2008, 08:25:33 AM
Squad...serious post here:

I have been fat before, when I got sick.

I remember I felt losuy about almost everything, and I cast my gaze asunder at almost anything I had previously looked upon as being good. Thankfully, I regained my health and returned to my former, 'pretty good muscularity and lean physique'.

When you take care of yourself, and enjoy great health, everything looks better :)

Peace, 'Everybody's Favorite All American', Mike 'Moosejay' Dusa
good stuff man, post up a picture let's see.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:26:32 AM
I really cant wait until that asshole is out of office, the guy reaaally fucked the economy not to mention sending all the jobs to India.. Hopefully, a new pres can start using our own natural resources to bring the fucking price of gas down..

Well, yeah... the oil industry did post a 35 BILLION profit for the past year...so I can't figure that shit out...DAMN!
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 08:27:51 AM
Okay, given that, who would NOT be an embarassment to the US?

For some, unfortunately, I think ANYONE in office will be an embarassment for them.

Could it be that folks are practicing something called reflection?



HAHAHAHAHA Please tell me you have seen this episode of South Park.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Wall-Mart_This_Way_Comes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Wall-Mart_This_Way_Comes)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:28:17 AM
good stuff man, post up a picture let's see.

Go to the General board...go to pics of members and more...the is a whole thread of me under Moosejay.

I understand you carry a lot of muscle. Cool,  I never was very strong, tried the Zane approach, with limited success!

Peace
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:29:21 AM


HAHAHAHAHA Please tell me you have seen this episode of South Park.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Wall-Mart_This_Way_Comes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Wall-Mart_This_Way_Comes)

Hell, Mike, I will have to cheack that at home...I am on my office computer and I can't check that out here...will tonight...I am sure it is good...BTW...is that you in your avatar? Outstanding!
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: calmus on April 01, 2008, 08:31:01 AM
never was very strong, tried the Zane approach, with limited success!

Peace

It's your mind/spirit that isn't very strong, and it affected your body.  True story.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Stavios on April 01, 2008, 08:31:35 AM
Umm, why would you say that? My family? How would that help Canada? Does Canada need this kind of help? I don't understand.

Stavios, you have always been civil to me. I am surprised....

I think I am being really civil, that does not mean that I have to agree with you on that subject.
Innocent people are being kill for a reason and one reason only: USA wants their oil.

those people are just as innocent as your familly, so why is it OK to kill those innocent people but it is not OK to kill your innocent familly ?

because you don't know them ?
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 08:31:52 AM
Hell, Mike, I will have to cheack that at home...I am on my office computer and I can't check that out here...will tonight...I am sure it is good...BTW...is that you in your avatar? Outstanding!



HAHAHAHA No it's Chris Cormier ;D


It's not a video, just a summary of the story, I will post the vid if I find it.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: calmus on April 01, 2008, 08:33:34 AM
I think I am being really civil, that does not mean that I have to agree with you on that subject.
Innocent people are being kill for a reason and one reason only: USA wants their oil.

those people are just as innocent as your familly, so why is it OK to kill those innocent people but it is not OK to kill your innocent familly ?

because you don't know them ?


He doesn't have a family, just some perennially dissatisfied girlfriend.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 01, 2008, 08:34:06 AM
Moose,

I'm a lifelong repub who became lost from my party after it came out that Bush was warned about 911, six weeks before, and did nothing because it fit the plans of the wars his admin was planning.

One thing you may forget...

If things keep going in this direction - borrowing 1 tril per year, dollar being dropped by our allies, and falling dollar, guess what may happen?  

Russia and mexico both went bankrupt in the 90s.  You think it can't happen to big nations?

Your awesome professor job might not be there one day when federal funds stop coming.  Your awesome retirement package might not be there one day if the dollar suddenly becomes worthless.  Your local Walmart might not open their doors one day.

THAT is what should keep you from becoming a "yes-man".   Bush bought 100k acres in paraguay to move to in 2009 - he's building a mansion there, right?  Haliburton is moving to Dubai at the end of 08, and Cheney will be taking over things there, right?  

Step back.  Realize that historically, great nations have gone broke.  The awesome job and savings account you have won't matter.  You are every other skell on the street might all wake up with no job and no savings one day.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: nder98 on April 01, 2008, 08:34:14 AM
Well, yeah... the oil industry did post a 35 BILLION profit for the past year...so I can't figure that shit out...DAMN!

Its because the A-Rabs know they have us by the balls, because they know Bush is an absolute Moron when it comes to foreign policy.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:34:30 AM
It's your mind/spirit that isn't very strong, and it affected your body.  True story.

Calmus:

Do you have that book, Zane's Mind/ Spirit book?

Actually, I didn't get much out of that.

I have gone to his Zane experience in La Mesa, it was very good.

He even played us a few tunes on the harmonica and guitar!
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 08:34:52 AM
I think I am being really civil, that does not mean that I have to agree with you on that subject.
Innocent people are being kill for a reason and one reason only: USA wants their oil.

those people are just as innocent as your familly, so why is it OK to kill those innocent people but it is not OK to kill your innocent familly
?

because you don't know them ?



The fact that you believe that tells me you don't know shit about what you are saying. Thank god you are a Canadian.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:35:26 AM
Its because the A-Rabs know they have us by the balls, because they know Bush is an absolute Moron when it comes to foreign policy.

Yes...they do have us down...for now. Things always swing like a pendulum, however. You know this.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:37:16 AM
I think I am being really civil, that does not mean that I have to agree with you on that subject.
Innocent people are being kill for a reason and one reason only: USA wants their oil.

those people are just as innocent as your familly, so why is it OK to kill those innocent people but it is not OK to kill your innocent familly ?

because you don't know them ?



No, no! Stavios..I of course respect your opinion...I was referring to your colorful language towards me, is all.

And, remember, some of what you say may be true.

You do, however, seem smart enough to realize that the media is biased, so I due plod methodically in ferreting out what is true and what is illusion.

Mike
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:38:34 AM
Squad...did you check my pics yet?

Lemme know what you think,

Mike
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:39:32 AM

The fact that you believe that tells me you don't know shit about what you are saying. Thank god you are a Canadian.

Staviois is from Canada? I thought he was from the former Yugoslavia....Hell I like Canada...why is Canada angry with us ???
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 08:39:41 AM
Moose,

I'm a lifelong repub who became lost from my party after it came out that Bush was warned about 911, six weeks before, and did nothing because it fit the plans of the wars his admin was planning.

One thing you may forget...

If things keep going in this direction - borrowing 1 tril per year, dollar being dropped by our allies, and falling dollar, guess what may happen?  

Russia and mexico both went bankrupt in the 90s.  You think it can't happen to big nations?

Your awesome professor job might not be there one day when federal funds stop coming.  Your awesome retirement package might not be there one day if the dollar suddenly becomes worthless.  Your local Walmart might not open their doors one day.

THAT is what should keep you from becoming a "yes-man".   Bush bought 100k acres in paraguay to move to in 2009 - he's building a mansion there, right?  Haliburton is moving to Dubai at the end of 08, and Cheney will be taking over things there, right?  

Step back.  Realize that historically, great nations have gone broke.  The awesome job and savings account you have won't matter.  You are every other skell on the street might all wake up with no job and no savings one day.



That could be a good thing ;)

Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Stavios on April 01, 2008, 08:43:23 AM

The fact that you believe that tells me you don't know shit about what you are saying. Thank god you are a Canadian.

yes, being canadian gives me the right to say stupid things  ;D

MooseJay, I am not angry with the US.
I am just angry with useless war. People seems to think it is OK to kill billions of innocent people because they don't know them, that's the simple truth.
because there are far far away from us, we don't care about it. but if people were being killed in your backyard, things would be different

Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 01, 2008, 08:45:47 AM
That could be a good thing ;)

I understand, govts have to make tough decisions.  I understand the world is a messed up place, and neither party is perfect, but they both do what they think is best for the USA (while making their friends rich at the same time)

That's just how it is.

My point is just that many people don't see the bigger problsm for ALL of us, repub or dem, rich or poor.  The british newspapers are calling it "The Great Depression 2008" this morning in case you haven't noticed.  We've had 2 quarters with negative GDP growth.  We're officially in a recession.

Recessions happen.  That's part of the cycle.  But if the world loses confidence in the dollar, well, that is a scary prospect.  That affects all of us.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:46:01 AM


That could be a good thing ;)



Hey 240.

Cool, your words resound, I appresiate them.

My 'awesome' professor job ain't so awesome.

the kids are so bad I bring a cell phone jammer into class so they can't disrupt me(yes...a cell phone jammer...friend goit for me in Europe...it's GREAT!)

It's only part time...down the street from my practice.

I do my own pension. I know it is always subject to rick.

But if I always think in terms of gloom and doom (whether badness is coming or not) why would I even bother to get out of bed anymore?

The badness you describe just makes me work harder to counteract in positive fashion.

Rose colored glasses? Maybe..

But it makes for a great and productive life.

Squad...how'd I look in my pics....I know, I know...not too big.... :)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 08:47:26 AM
yes, being canadian gives me the right to say stupid things  ;D

MooseJay, I am not angry with the US.
I am just angry with useless war. People seems to think it is OK to kill billions of innocent people because they don't know them, that's the simple truth.
because there are far far away from us, we don't care about it. but if people were being killed in your backyard, things would be different




Thats a little inflated don't you think :-\


We are very fortunate to not have that kind of stuff around here but don't you think others deserve the same. If we weren't there, there would still be just as much violence if not more and more extreme.



Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:48:07 AM
yes, being canadian gives me the right to say stupid things  ;D

MooseJay, I am not angry with the US.
I am just angry with useless war. People seems to think it is OK to kill billions of innocent people because they don't know them, that's the simple truth.
because there are far far away from us, we don't care about it. but if people were being killed in your backyard, things would be different



Agreed, Stavios. 100%

But, not Billions, as you say. Not even millions. Thousands, perhaps. That doesn't make it any better. Wish we had the FULL story...never, ever will.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:49:05 AM

Thats a little inflated don't you think :-\


We are very fortunate to not have that kind of stuff around here but don't you think others deserve the same. If we weren't there, there would still be just as much violence if not more and more extreme.





Yes.

If people do not think we did the world a favor ridding it of Saddam, well, then, I don't know....
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:50:54 AM
Anybody here see the movie, 'The Last King Of Scotland'?

That Idi Amin was one sick fuck. Killed, I believe, 300,000 of his countrymen.

If the US must go in and, forgive me, "break a few eggs" to get rif of such a miscreant, well....who the Hell else is gonna do it???
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 08:51:10 AM
I understand, govts have to make tough decisions.  I understand the world is a messed up place, and neither party is perfect, but they both do what they think is best for the USA (while making their friends rich at the same time)

That's just how it is.

My point is just that many people don't see the bigger problsm for ALL of us, repub or dem, rich or poor.  The british newspapers are calling it "The Great Depression 2008" this morning in case you haven't noticed.  We've had 2 quarters with negative GDP growth.  We're officially in a recession.

Recessions happen.  That's part of the cycle.  But if the world loses confidence in the dollar, well, that is a scary prospect.  That affects all of us.


I understand we have problems and I will be the last to deny them but it ticks me off when guys put the blame solely on the President let alone the Government. If they are American companies and American consumers then we have only ourselves to blame.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on April 01, 2008, 08:51:21 AM
Yes.

If people do not think we did the world a favor ridding it of Saddam, well, then, I don't know....
both Iraq and the rest of the world was better off with Saddam in power, the Bush family created some scary boogeyman myth out of big bad Saddam when there was nothing to fear, he sold us oil at reasonable prices and kept his people at bay.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 01, 2008, 08:51:31 AM
Hey 240.
Cool, your words resound, I appresiate them.
My 'awesome' professor job ain't so awesome.
the kids are so bad I bring a cell phone jammer into class so they can't disrupt me(yes...a cell phone jammer...friend goit for me in Europe...it's GREAT!)
It's only part time...down the street from my practice.
I do my own pension. I know it is always subject to rick.
But if I always think in terms of gloom and doom (whether badness is coming or not) why would I even bother to get out of bed anymore?
The badness you describe just makes me work harder to counteract in positive fashion.
Rose colored glasses? Maybe..
But it makes for a great and productive life.
Squad...how'd I look in my pics....I know, I know...not too big.... :)


I'm not a pessimist.  I actually believe the party system is cyclical.  Dems fix the DOMESTIC situation (Clinton creating the surplus) and Repubs hook us up with FOREIGn advantages.  Poor prosper under dems, rich prosper under repubs.

Regardless of your own "I am set financially position", realize that if things do go in that direction, you will have 260 millino Americans who are NOT set financially who might come knocking on your door for a handout.  Or, might stick a gun in your face for your car keys.  Realize that a $ collapse here would mean hundreds of millions of hungry desperate people destorying how nice you have things.   Your pension might still be there partially, but your ability spend the $ might not.

Yes, that's the 'doomsdayers' viewpoint, and it'll likely never happen.  But, many leaders (repubs!) are now admitting we're in the worst shape since WWII.  And after the housing/credit crash, more sectors will fall due to the ripple effect.  I'm not a 'the sky is falling' guy... I'm just pointing out that many in the world believe the dollar is in trouble, and if it does fall, you'll be up shit creek with everyone else, no matter how much $ you have.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:52:19 AM
Well, I don't know about that, Squad
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 08:53:57 AM
Anybody here see the movie, 'The Last King Of Scotland'?

That Idi Amin was one sick fuck. Killed, I believe, 300,000 of his countrymen.

If the US must go in and, forgive me, "break a few eggs" to get rif of such a miscreant, well....who the Hell else is gonna do it???


If people only knew of all the sacrifices that have been made throughout history in an attempt to live with the kind of freedoms we have today.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:54:46 AM

I'm not a pessimist.  I actually believe the party system is cyclical.  Dems fix the DOMESTIC situation (Clinton creating the surplus) and Repubs hook us up with FOREIGn advantages.  Poor prosper under dems, rich prosper under repubs.

Regardless of your own "I am set financially position", realize that if things do go in that direction, you will have 260 millino Americans who are NOT set financially who might come knocking on your door for a handout.  Or, might stick a gun in your face for your car keys.  Realize that a $ collapse here would mean hundreds of millions of hungry desperate people destorying how nice you have things.   Your pension might still be there partially, but your ability spend the $ might not.

Yes, that's the 'doomsdayers' viewpoint, and it'll likely never happen.  But, many leaders (repubs!) are now admitting we're in the worst shape since WWII.  And after the housing/credit crash, more sectors will fall due to the ripple effect.  I'm not a 'the sky is falling' guy... I'm just pointing out that many in the world believe the dollar is in trouble, and if it does fall, you'll be up shit creek with everyone else, no matter how much $ you have.

Hmmm...well, I never say I am set financially...I never think that way. I always work harfd, no matter what.

And could you find my photos...I really wanted your opinion.
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Mike
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 01, 2008, 08:55:22 AM
I understand we have problems and I will be the last to deny them but it ticks me off when guys put the blame solely on the President let alone the Government. If they are American companies and American consumers then we have only ourselves to blame.

I agree that people did this to themslves, SOMEWHAT.  

Buying a house you can't afford with an adjustable rate = asinine.  

But spending $12 BILLION a month in Iraq... when the majority of the population is against it... and Bush saying he'll keep spending it, even if 99% of the population is against it.

That's not doing the will of the people.  That's doing what he wants to preserve his legacy in history.  And borrowing $1 Tril per year from China to do it - using US highways and parks as collateral.

I don't like that idea, and I'm betting 51% of our population doesn't like that idea.  Does that mean it'll stop, as the majority doesn't want it?  Um, no.  It'll continue, even if 99% of us don't like it.  
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 08:56:01 AM

If people only knew of all the sacrifices that have been made throughout history in an attempt to live with the kind of freedoms we have today.

Yeah...no shit.

Mike, have you seen the recent series, 'John Adams' on HBO?

Man those folks had it rough as Hell. It's like we live in Utopia in comparison.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Mark Kerr on April 01, 2008, 08:58:23 AM
Truckers Line Up To Protest Fuel Costs

http://www.wesh.com/news/15756801/detail.html

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Authorities in Tampa are working to keep traffic moving as dozens of truckers lined up to protest the rising cost of fuel.

Police said they're working to keep traffic moving near the Port of Tampa, where the big rigs are gathered. It's happening along 22nd Street near the causeway at McKay Bay.

Diesel prices are nearing $4 a gallon, which is putting the squeeze on truck drivers. They said they're fed up on Monday and planned to fight back.
 
 

Independent trucker Rui Olivera said he's worried the high price of diesel may run him out of business.

"If it goes up another 50 cents a gallon, I have to park. I'll have no choice. I don't work for free. I'll go find a janitorial job for a little bit,” Olivera said.

After 11 years behind the wheel, it's the first time he's considered stopping.

"If there's a strike, I'll have to honor it obviously. If we don't stick together, its getting harder and harder," Olivera said.

Diesel prices are hovering around $4 a gallon, forcing truckers to spend $600 to $700 or more to fill up one tank.

"It's hurting a lot of companies. People are struggling, you hear them talking on the radios, not just trucking, everyone's feeling the pinch," trucker Wayne Calvert said.

Many drivers said they believe the strike will happen.

"It has to. The guys, the owner operators, I know they can't afford to keep running like this. It's killing them," Calvert said.

Others, like 35-year veteran Gary Burch, disagree.

"Since the one in the early '70s until now, every time they threaten to shut down, it never works," Burch said.

The strike was slated to begin at midnight Monday and run through April 5. Truckers promised it would make an impact.

As part of the planned protest, truckers said they plan to either park their rigs, go 45 mph on highways or post protest signs on their trucks.

There are no reports of traffic troublespots around Orlando on Tuesday morning.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 09:00:45 AM
I agree that people did this to themslves, SOMEWHAT.  

Buying a house you can't afford with an adjustable rate = asinine.  

But spending $12 BILLION a month in Iraq... when the majority of the population is against it... and Bush saying he'll keep spending it, even if 99% of the population is against it.

That's not doing the will of the people.  That's doing what he wants to preserve his legacy in history.  And borrowing $1 Tril per year from China to do it - using US highways and parks as collateral.

I don't like that idea, and I'm betting 51% of our population doesn't like that idea.  Does that mean it'll stop, as the majority doesn't want it?  Um, no.  It'll continue, even if 99% of us don't like it.  


If our Armed services need that much money then I say give it to them, they know more about what's going on then we do. Why should people who know nothing of the situation other then what the news shows have control over what the armed services should get. If the people we elected to office approve then I say go for it, unless you feel we can't trust anyone in the government that WE elected.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 01, 2008, 09:03:47 AM
If our Armed services need that much money then I say give it to them, they know more about what's going on then we do. Why should people who know nothing of the situation other then what the news shows have control over what the armed services should get. If the people we elected to office approve then I say go for it, unless you feel we can't trust anyone in the government that WE elected.

Wait a second - "If our armed forces need that money"?

They need that money for the massive cost of infrastructure to keep them there in Iraq. 

We are stalling letting iraq's new police/military take over those duties, even though they want to, and they wish for us to leave.

Why?


Some say it's because Cheney is receiving what, $10 to $30 mil per year from haliburton in Stock options?

I don't know... if a company was paying me $30 mil a year, and it would stop if I ended the war... I would sure keep that beyotch going, woudln't you?
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 09:04:20 AM
Yeah...no shit.

Mike, have you seen the recent series, 'John Adams' on HBO?
Man those folks had it rough as Hell. It's like we live in Utopia in comparison.


No when is it on?


I am a big history buff and trust me I have a decent understanding of how good we have it, bad thing is most people have no idea. I think we should all be tested to keep our citezenship, I gurantee your average American today (especially the younger generations) couldn't pass the citizenship test.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Mark Kerr on April 01, 2008, 09:04:41 AM
And borrowing $1 Tril per year from China to do it - using US highways and parks as collateral.

Where did you hear that?
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 09:05:02 AM

If our Armed services need that much money then I say give it to them, they know more about what's going on then we do. Why should people who know nothing of the situation other then what the news shows have control over what the armed services should get. If the people we elected to office approve then I say go for it, unless you feel we can't trust anyone in the government that WE elected.

Yes.

It is crazy to think that the REAL 'powers that be' would ever let we little folks know what is REALLY happening.

WE elected 'em. Now we gotta lay in bed with 'em.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 09:06:34 AM
Wait a second - "If our armed forces need that money"?

They need that money for the massive cost of infrastructure to keep them there in Iraq. 

We are stalling letting iraq's new police/military take over those duties, even though they want to, and they wish for us to leave.

Why?


Some say it's because Cheney is receiving what, $10 to $30 mil per year from haliburton in Stock options?

I don't know... if a company was paying me $30 mil a year, and it would stop if I ended the war... I would sure keep that beyotch going, woudln't you?

C'mon, 240, then you are saying you have the same integrity (or lack of it) that you are questioning in Cheney?
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on April 01, 2008, 09:06:34 AM
hahahhaaa, a trillion bucks down the drain and 4,000 lives wasted for nothing and this clown is OK with it. ::)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 09:06:40 AM
Wait a second - "If our armed forces need that money"?

They need that money for the massive cost of infrastructure to keep them there in Iraq. 

We are stalling letting iraq's new police/military take over those duties, even though they want to, and they wish for us to leave.

Why?


Some say it's because Cheney is receiving what, $10 to $30 mil per year from haliburton in Stock options?

I don't know... if a company was paying me $30 mil a year, and it would stop if I ended the war... I would sure keep that beyotch going, woudln't you?


I wouldn't exactly say they are ready to do it on their own, i say we get it done right so we don't have to go back yet again.


 
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 01, 2008, 09:06:52 AM
unless you feel we can't trust anyone in the government that WE elected.

The democrats also wish to let the iraqis take over their own security.

That would mean our men and women come home.
That would mean the war bill drops instantly.

51% of the Senate wants it.  Problem is, Bush stops them everytime with the veto power.  He can keep the war going until the 2008 elections, because the dems don't have 60% of senate.  If they did, we'd pull troops back tomorrow.

So despite the fact a majority of the country, and a majority of the senate wants to let the iraqis police their own country, it ain't happening.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 01, 2008, 09:09:05 AM
Where did you hear that?

Go look up the national debt trends.  gone up $5 tril in 7 years under Bush with the trend being much higher in 08 than in 01.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 01, 2008, 09:13:41 AM
don't get me wrong.  i'm a republican, i support the war, i support us being in the region and reaping the benefits.

I'd just like to see IRAQI forces doing the close up gun battles each day, not Americans.  Pull out our men to the safety of bases, let the iraqis face the day-to-day dangers.  After all, it is THEIR country to defend. They want to.  The troops want to let them! 
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Stavios on April 01, 2008, 10:50:48 AM

Thats a little inflated don't you think :-\


We are very fortunate to not have that kind of stuff around here but don't you think others deserve the same. If we weren't there, there would still be just as much violence if not more and more extreme.





sorry I meant thousands not billions ;D
damn english  :D
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 01, 2008, 11:45:34 AM
sorry I meant thousands not billions ;D
damn english  :D



You're just a Canadian, I don't expect much, I mean look at Tom Green ;D
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 12:10:49 PM

No when is it on?


I am a big history buff and trust me I have a decent understanding of how good we have it, bad thing is most people have no idea. I think we should all be tested to keep our citezenship, I gurantee your average American today (especially the younger generations) couldn't pass the citizenship test.

Sundays at 9 pm, EST.


Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 01:41:57 PM
don't get me wrong.  i'm a republican, i support the war, i support us being in the region and reaping the benefits.

I'd just like to see IRAQI forces doing the close up gun battles each day, not Americans.  Pull out our men to the safety of bases, let the iraqis face the day-to-day dangers.  After all, it is THEIR country to defend. They want to.  The troops want to let them! 


I am an independent...I agree with some of what you say.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 01, 2008, 02:05:40 PM
Cool.  I'm all for kicking ass all around the world to remain a superpower.  I would just rather have iraqis do the legwork.  We can sip pina coladas on the bases, and calmly carpet bomb anyone who gets within 5 miles of us, right?

Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Archer77 on April 01, 2008, 02:14:50 PM
Cool.  I'm all for kicking ass all around the world to remain a superpower.  I would just rather have iraqis do the legwork.  We can sip pina coladas on the bases, and calmly carpet bomb anyone who gets within 5 miles of us, right?



One of the problems with this strategy is what kind of Iraqi are we going to entrust to bringing order to Iraq.  There are competing factions with a multitude of agenda's.  At my worst moments i think its best to let them fight it to the death and let Crom sort them out. 

On a side note, I think it is hard to argue at this point that Bush is a good president.  Regardless of whether or not you think radical Islam is a major problem, which I believe it is( in my estimation radical religion is inherently dangerous regardless of what religion it is), his strategy for combating terrorism and radicalism was poorly devised and haphazardly executed. 
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: dr.chimps on April 01, 2008, 02:17:35 PM
Cool.  I'm all for kicking ass all around the world to remain a superpower.  I would just rather have iraqis do the legwork.  We can sip pina coladas on the bases, and calmly carpet bomb anyone who gets within 5 miles of us, right?
General Westmoreland and Vietnam ring a bell with you?  ::)     ;)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: qiniz on April 01, 2008, 02:21:36 PM

If people only knew of all the sacrifices that have been made throughout history in an attempt to live with the kind of freedoms we have today.

Well how about enlightening us, with all your infinit wisdom.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 01, 2008, 02:23:55 PM
One of the problems with this strategy is what kind of Iraqi are we going to entrust to bringing order to Iraq.  There are competing factions with a multitude of agenda's.  At my worst moments i think its best to let them fight it to the death and let Crom sort them out. 

On a side note, I think it is hard to argue at this point that Bush is a good president.  Regardless of whether or not you think radical Islam is a major problem, which I believe it is( in my estimation radical religion is inherently dangerous regardless of what religion it is), his strategy for combating terrorism and radicalism was poorly devised and haphazardly executed. 

he'll be remembered by the history books as the president who

- established a longterm presence in the mid east
- established US oil pipes across the mid east, in US dollars
- bravely fought islamist extremism.

Kids history books will ignore all the stuff about oetting 911 happen and the sunni/shiite mess, and just talk about it like we talk about FDR bravely responding to Pearl harbor.  

Grownup history books will talk about it for centuries.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: dr.chimps on April 01, 2008, 02:28:32 PM
he'll be remembered by the history books as the president who

- established a longterm presence in the mid east
- established US oil pipes across the mid east, in US dollars
- bravely fought islamist extremism.

Kids history books will ignore all the stuff about oetting 911 happen and the sunni/shiite mess, and just talk about it like we talk about FDR bravely responding to Pearl harbor. 

Grownup history books will talk about it for centuries.
History books aren't as hagiographic as they used to be.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Tre on April 01, 2008, 02:30:33 PM

Bush shouldn't say another word between now and his departure from office aside from "No comment".  I think he could get that right.

Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 02:57:20 PM
Cool.  I'm all for kicking ass all around the world to remain a superpower.  I would just rather have iraqis do the legwork.  We can sip pina coladas on the bases, and calmly carpet bomb anyone who gets within 5 miles of us, right?



Ha! Agreed.

We just gotta hope they eventually get their stuff together enough to leave 'em be.....
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 02:58:40 PM
Truckers Line Up To Protest Fuel Costs

http://www.wesh.com/news/15756801/detail.html


mark...my father was a truck driver...40 years Teamster...he knows all about this...
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 03:01:23 PM
One of the problems with this strategy is what kind of Iraqi are we going to entrust to bringing order to Iraq.  There are competing factions with a multitude of agenda's.  At my worst moments i think its best to let them fight it to the death and let Crom sort them out. 

On a side note, I think it is hard to argue at this point that Bush is a good president.  Regardless of whether or not you think radical Islam is a major problem, which I believe it is( in my estimation radical religion is inherently dangerous regardless of what religion it is), his strategy for combating terrorism and radicalism was poorly devised and haphazardly executed. 

Ha. Crom...(Thor?)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 03:02:02 PM
he'll be remembered by the history books as the president who

- established a longterm presence in the mid east
- established US oil pipes across the mid east, in US dollars
- bravely fought islamist extremism.

Kids history books will ignore all the stuff about oetting 911 happen and the sunni/shiite mess, and just talk about it like we talk about FDR bravely responding to Pearl harbor.  

Grownup history books will talk about it for centuries.


Your words ring true here, 240
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 03:02:49 PM
History books aren't as hagiographic as they used to be.

I confess...hagiographic???
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 03:10:35 PM
In all fairness:

If you work extremely hard

And work smart

Have a goal

And singleness of mind

There is absolutely NO WAY you cannot be successful in this country 
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: The Master on April 01, 2008, 03:11:36 PM
In all fairness:

If you work extremely hard

And work smart

Have a goal

And singleness of mind

There is absolutely NO WAY you cannot be successful in this country 


Badabing!
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: whateva on April 01, 2008, 03:16:22 PM
In all fairness:

If you work extremely hard

And work smart

Have a goal

And singleness of mind

There is absolutely NO WAY you cannot be successful in this country 
What do you mean by successful ,Moosejay
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Bast000 on April 01, 2008, 03:18:40 PM


And singleness of mind


wtf
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 03:21:00 PM
Whateva:

That varies from person to person.

Being a successful bb, as I know you are, you understand this comes back to exact, individual goal setting.

Having a clear, definitive plan, from early on, and seeing it through, no matter what the circumstances.

If it is what the individual REALLY wants, then they will see their goals through the rough spots of life.

They will not buy more house than they can afford

They will not piss their money away on gambling, cigarettes, and vanilla Starbucks Lattes

They will attend to their civic responsibilities

The list goes on and on...
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 03:22:36 PM
wtf

Singleness of mind= not being distracted from your goal, no matter what
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: dov on April 01, 2008, 05:58:28 PM
it's most common for the home team's catcher to catch the "first pitch". This should have been Paul LoDuca, but, instead the team's manager caught the pitch thrown by President Bush....this is because LoDuca was named in the Mitchell Report involving steroids...god forbid!!!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 06:01:46 PM
That may not be so...especially since it is said that George may pardon his pal, Roger C, especially if he does go down
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: dov on April 01, 2008, 06:06:14 PM
That may not be so...especially since it is said that George may pardon his pal, Roger C, especially if he does go down
the manager NEVER catches the first pitch at a ballgame...maybe Bush did'nt make a stink of the situation, but his "people" sure as hell did ..to avoid the possible scrutiny that would have followed..the Pres. can't play catch with a steroid freak!!  haha
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 06:11:30 PM
Probably true
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: onlyme on April 01, 2008, 06:11:46 PM
They weren't booing him they were all yelling "Buuuuuuuuuuuush"
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 06:13:31 PM
They weren't booing him they were all yelling "Buuuuuuuuuuuush"

That is true...according to some reports booing was mixed in with cheers.

I don't think the American people are that crass 
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Marty Champions on April 01, 2008, 06:15:06 PM
Whateva:

That varies from person to person.

Being a successful bb, as I know you are, you understand this comes back to exact, individual goal setting.

Having a clear, definitive plan, from early on, and seeing it through, no matter what the circumstances.

If it is what the individual REALLY wants, then they will see their goals through the rough spots of life.

They will not buy more house than they can afford

They will not piss their money away on gambling, cigarettes, and vanilla Starbucks Lattes

They will attend to their civic responsibilities

The list goes on and on...

nice post

many are giving up too early not setting more higher goals
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 01, 2008, 06:19:15 PM
Yes, Falcon, I am glad you see this.

It is easy, but not simple, as far as this basic equation goes.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: sgt. d on April 01, 2008, 06:34:56 PM
They weren't booing him they were all yelling "Buuuuuuuuuuuush"

Hi Bush
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: dr.chimps on April 01, 2008, 06:44:54 PM
I confess...hagiographic???
Hmm. You're on the internet...try a GIS for it!? I know you're not that lazy...  ;)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Sean-DeMarco on April 02, 2008, 03:32:59 AM


 ;D ;D


...Gee, it only took them eight years to catch on.~ ::)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: Moosejay on April 02, 2008, 05:05:34 AM
Hmm. You're on the internet...try a GIS for it!? I know you're not that lazy...  ;)

Sometimes I am :)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: fearANDloathing on April 02, 2008, 08:12:58 AM
We deserve Bush thanks to the average American.
Quite correct.  We knew what kind of man he was after the first term and we reelected him anyway.
On the upside, only  after having a moron in the white house running the country into the ground for the last 8 years is the nation is ready for ANYONE who can do a half way decent job as the Commander in chief, even if he is an African American.
We are only 292 days away from our first Black President. Thank You Mr Bush  ;D
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 02, 2008, 08:17:39 AM
Quite correct.  We knew what kind of man he was after the first term and we reelected him anyway.
On the upside, only  after having a moron in the white house running the country into the ground for the last 8 years is the nation is ready for ANYONE who can do a half way decent job as the Commander in chief, even if he is an African American.
We are only 292 days away from our first Black President. Thank You Mr Bush  ;D


HAHAHAHAHAHA.  Every republican in the US will crawl out from under their rock to vote to ensure that the US never has a Black President.  The dems have shot themselves in the foot by choosing either a women or a black man.  The dems like to talk a tough game but on election day will be too lazy to vote.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: gymguy on April 02, 2008, 08:18:43 AM
bush is a mass-murdering freak. he orders his war machine to incinerate child while they sleep. he's a sickness. he's a coward.

Get a life, weakling.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 02, 2008, 08:19:41 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHA.  Every republican in the US will crawl out from under their rock to vote to ensure that the US never has a Black President.  The dems have shot themselves in the foot by choosing either a women or a black man.  The dems like to talk a tough game but on election day will be too lazy to vote.

Major polls for the last year disagree with this - Obama, hilary, and Mccain are all in a statistical tie at the moment.
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 02, 2008, 08:55:12 AM
bush is a mass-murdering freak. he orders his war machine to incinerate child while they sleep. he's a sickness. he's a coward.


lol finally 1 person almost had the balls to say the T word!


bush is responsible for more deaths than osama...at what point does jesus go..."hey i know ya accepted me as saviour n all but yeesh your ass belongs in hell" :-\
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on April 02, 2008, 08:57:28 AM

lol finally 1 person almost had the balls to say the T word!


bush is responsible for more deaths than osama...at what point does jesus go..."hey i know ya accepted me as saviour n all but yeesh your ass belongs in hell" :-\
yeah but Bush is fighting the "war on terror" don't you know that? ::)
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 02, 2008, 09:00:39 AM
yeah but Bush is fighting the "war on terror" don't you know that? ::)

you mean creating another 1000 osamas...


when we bombed Iraq..lets say i were an Iraqi and them bombs killed my mum, dad, sis and brother...I'd simply go nuts and develop a vengeful hatered for America...

ANY man would..

..well any straight man would..

hell any woman would also..kill a woman's child and see what she does to ya


we r a country at war...lol...really??  i haven't seen a single bomb on american soil...the proper term is..we r a country controlled by a despot waging war..
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on April 02, 2008, 09:04:16 AM
you mean creating another 1000 osamas...


when we bombed Iraq..lets say i were an Iraqi and them bombs killed my mum, dad, sis and brother...I'd simply go nuts and develop a vengeful hatered for America...

ANY man would..

..well any straight man would..

hell any woman would also..kill a woman's child and see what she does to ya..
hahahaa, exactly but try telling that to some of these tobacco chewing, shotgun on the window truck driving midwestern rednecks around here, "WE SUPPORT DUBYA AND THE WAR ON TERROR ROUND HERE, THE MORE OF THEM SUMBITCHES WE KILL THE SAFER WE ARE HERE, LET'S TURN EYERACK INTO A PARKIN' LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Bush booed by entire baseball stadium!!!
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 02, 2008, 09:14:24 AM
hahahaa, exactly but try telling that to some of these tobacco chewing, shotgun on the window truck driving midwestern rednecks around here, "WE SUPPORT DUBYA AND THE WAR ON TERROR ROUND HERE, THE MORE OF THEM SUMBITCHES WE KILL THE SAFER WE ARE HERE, LET'S TURN EYERACK INTO A PARKIN' LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


99% of these folks have not left the US so they dont get to experience getting treated like shit in europe and elsewhere....when i travel..i'm canadian...ya betta fucking believe it...

look.we ..YES WE (ie the republicans) armed the taliban during their war with russia in afghan..and we created osama


...guess whats coming next.. :(


if u get a chance squad..watch this vid..i urge u

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574387786893863155&q=sceret+government&total=4689&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1