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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: BayGBM on July 15, 2008, 12:48:11 PM
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Have you seen his ads in magazines and newspapers? Are you buying what he's pushing or is it all bs?
http://www.cenegenics-drlife.com/index2.html
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Have you seen his ads in magazines and newspapers? Are you buying what he's pushing or is it all bs?
http://www.cenegenics-drlife.com/index2.html
I guess it's BayGBM approved :D btw it's a good photoshop ;)
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He went on HRT.
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so what does he look like now?
he's 69 now
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He went on HRT.
All the advertisements featuring him remind me of that pervasive caveat: "Results not typical" = "this will never happen for you, sucker!" :P
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hahaha this is such a bad photoshop I just loaded the pic up on Photoshop CS
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what did he look like in his 30s and 40s? Odds are he was quite athletic in his youth, stopped working out for a few years, then got back into shape.
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hahaha this is such a bad photoshop I just loaded the pic up on Photoshop CS
What's so bad about it? The pic was obviously not taken in that gym but I have little doubt that is him and he is in great shape for an old guy. There are plenty of random old guys in great shape; he may be one of them. I just don't believe in any "product" that can make it happen for the average 55 year old couch potato.
Tim's comment makes much more sense to me than "cenegenics" whatever that is.
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I hate when these guys just stand there and stick their stomach out. ::)
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What's so bad about it? The pic was obviously not taken in that gym but I have little doubt that is him and he is in great shape for an old guy. There are plenty of random old guys in great shape; he may be one of them. I just don't believe in any "product" that can make it happen for the average 55 year old couch potato.
Tim's comment makes much more sense to me than "cenegenics" whatever that is.
It's a photoshop because you can see that the head has been "photoshopped" onto the body
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It's a photoshop because you can see that the head has been "photoshopped" onto the body
Has it? I dunno. That is certainly not the body of a young man...
I have a friend who claimed to be a photoshop expert and although he knows nothing about bodybuilding he kept insisting to me that this photo was photoshopped with the head placed onto the body. Despite his ostensible photoshop expertise he was wrong. After seeing him so thoroughly owned, I lost faith in "photoshop experts." :-\
Like I said, my main complaint here is that he is peddling some "product" when, it fact, his transformation had more to do with good diet and exercise that everyone has access to.
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Has it? I dunno. That is certainly not the body of a young man...
I have a friend who claimed to be a photoshop expert and although he knows nothing about bodybuilding he kept insisting to me that this photo was photoshopped with the head placed onto the body. Despite his ostensible photoshop expertise he was wrong. After seeing him so thoroughly owned, I lost faith in "photoshop experts." :-\
Like I said, my main complaint here is that he is peddling some "product" when, it fact, his transformation had more to do with good diet and exercise that everyone has access to.
I also call myself a Photoshop artist and expert have been using it since PH 5.5 as far as I can remember, and the head is without a doubt photoshopped on the torso, it's so fucking simple to do, all you need is to get the lighting right and I'm sure there's a plugin for that.
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I also call myself a Photoshop artist and expert have been using it since PH 5.5 as far as I can remember, and the head is without a doubt photoshopped on the torso, it's so fucking simple to do, all you need is to get the lighting right and I'm sure there's a plugin for that.
Doesn't look photoshopped to me. Also, if you are such an expert you would know that such a plugin existed or not.
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Doesn't look photoshopped to me. Also, if you are such an expert you would know that such a plugin existed or not.
I'm using Photoshop to create webdesigns not to Morph and distort
hope this helps.
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I also call myself a Photoshop artist and expert have been using it since PH 5.5 as far as I can remember, and the head is without a doubt photoshopped on the torso, it's so fucking simple to do, all you need is to get the lighting right and I'm sure there's a plugin for that.
all you highlighted was that the body was edited onto the background. no proof the head was edited onto the body (hint: it wasn't).
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all you highlighted was that the body was edited onto the background. no proof the head was edited onto the body (hint: it wasn't).
you see the two red rings? You see them? zoom and check it out yourself ::)
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all you highlighted was that the body was edited onto the background. no proof the head was edited onto the body (hint: it wasn't).
That was my thought. I think it's his head on his body. But what he is peddling is still crap.
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i think it is his head, what makes it look funny is that they smooth out his skin out a bit, around the shoulder area IMO.
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Dr. Jeffry Life believes he's the picture of health
He's that graying senior with the chiseled physique in those print ads. He shares his health regimen.
Roy Wallack
"Oh, you mean the guy with the 70-year-old head and the 20-year-old body-builder body? That picture has got to be Photoshopped."
Dr. Jeffry Life smiles when I tell him about the general reaction I get about the famous picture of him with his shirt off, the shot that turned a mild-mannered doctor in his mid-60s into a poster boy for super-fit aging and controversial hormone replacement
Appearing in medical-clinic ads in airline magazines and newspapers (including this one), the incongruous photo juxtaposes a bald, white-haired, septuagenarian head on top of a rippling, V-shaped torso worthy of an Olympic gymnast or powerlifter. Completing the effect of macho, forever-young vitality, Life's left hand casually dangles by his thumb from a jeans front pocket, in a cool cowboy swagger.
"Yeah, I read on the Internet that people think it's digitally enhanced," says the soft-spoken Life (which really is his name, translated from the German by his immigrant great-grandfather) with a laugh. But the body is real -- built by a relentless, six-day-a-week exercise regimen that includes hard cardio, heavy weights pushed to the max, martial arts, Pilates, a strict low-glycemic carb diet and lots of supplements. It has also, for the last seven years, been hormonally enhanced by a program that includes testosterone and human growth hormone -- a therapy Life views as entirely appropriate, even necessary despite the medical evidence questioning both its effectiveness and safety.
Testosterone replacement can enlarge the prostate and raise levels of prostate-specific androgen, used in cancer-screening tests. Human growth hormone could increase the risk of diabetes and cancer, and the National Insitute on Aging recommends it not be used for anti-aging purposes. (See related story for details.) But both are mainstays of the not-quite-mainstream field known as anti-aging medicine.
Life's enthusiasm is undimmed by such skepticism. "The fact is that every male over 50 or 55 suffers from a slow, insidious fall in testosterone levels," he says. "You don't notice it for a long time until your 'T' levels cross a certain threshold. Then you suddenly find that you lose your enthusiasm, your sex drive and can't maintain muscle mass anymore -- even if you work out. It's even worse if your HGH levels are falling off the table. That's what happened to me."
'Years of sloth'
Like most people, Life didn't give a thought to his testosterone level, his HGH or his fitness as he built his career as a family practice doctor in West Virginia and Pennsylvania. A lapsed Masters swimmer who became inactive in his mid 40s, the father of five became fat and borderline diabetic -- "a typical stressed-out middle-aged doctor who ate, drank and didn't practice what he preached. It was years and years of sloth."
That changed the day Life, then 60, picked up Muscle Media magazine and read about "the Challenge," a 12-week, before-and-after fitness contest. His competitive fires lighted, Life sent in his before photo and hit the gym.
Three months later, he'd dropped 25 pounds, cut his body fat from 28% to 10%, got genuinely ripped and was named one of the contest's 1999 "Body for Life" 10 grand champions... http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-jeffry-life18-2010jan18,0,3706975,full.column
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I also call myself a Photoshop artist and expert have been using it since PH 5.5 as far as I can remember, and the head is without a doubt photoshopped on the torso, it's so fucking simple to do, all you need is to get the lighting right and I'm sure there's a plugin for that.
Despite your expertise, I believe you are incorrect. This head was not Photoshopped onto the body.
That’s twice now a photoshop “expert” has been wrong about a mature head being digitally placed onto a young looking body. The fact that these supposed experts are quick to assert this claim--and defend it--says more about their anxiety/inability to reconcile the combination of a mature man with a fit physique than about their expertise. Perhaps the real fiction here is the claim of being an “expert” to begin with. :-\
Doesn't look photoshopped to me. Also, if you are such an expert you would know that such a plugin existed or not.
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Absolutely no doubt that it is photoshopped...
240?
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This is Jeffry Life now... at 71. His regimen includes taking testosterone and human growth hormone and lifting weights five days a week
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...The famous photo you see in ads today was taken in December 2004 when Life was 66. How does his body look now?
To find out, I met him at the Las Vegas Athletic Club, where Life hits different body parts five days a week at 7 a.m., normally with a trainer.
Life looks buffed, ripped. His arms and legs are heavily vascular, with pipe-like veins bulging over fat-free sinew.
He hammers himself hard on the machines -- five sets of chest flies, incline presses, decline presses, dumbbell bench presses, dips, leg extensions and many other exercises -- all done in ascending weights to the point of "failure," where you can go no more on the last rep.
It's the same strategy Life uses for cardio, blasting his home stationary bike on four sets of four lung-heaving, high-intensity intervals.
"When you go to failure, you push the skeletal muscles into a zone that makes them stronger," he says. "You also force your heart muscle to make special 'stress proteins' that protect it from heart disease."
Life also does Pilates twice a week and taekwondo three times a week.
"It greatly enhances my flexibility, but mainly I do it just because I always wanted to."
Going full-speed is a joy at any age but maybe even sweeter when it's so counterintuitive. At a time when his peers are gearing down, Life acts like he's just getting started.
"At 71, I feel better than I've ever been. I'm as strong or stronger than I've ever been, with even more muscle mass than five years ago."
Maybe it's time for a new photo.
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Haven't had a chance to read all this yet but that Dr has a huge bill-board ad on the freeway leading out of Las Vegas heading to LA and another at a very visible location near the airport.
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Hats off to this guy. Most 71 year olds are barely living. This guy looks and feels great. People should be happy for him. I don't understand the objection to older people living well...frankly, it's sick.
The objection to testosterone replacement therapy is just old. It doesn't cause prostate cancer and if given replacement doses, is very safe for the vast majority of people. If someone has prostate cancer, it's a contraindication because the prostate only needs a small amount of testosterone (threshold effect) to fuel the cancer. So, if they don't remove the prostate, docs want the testosterone as low as possible.
HGH is safe in properly chosen candidates with age related deficiency too. Docs have been using it with patients for 20 years now. They key is to replace the hormone to normal levels (just like other hormone replacement), not abuse it like bodybuilders. It does raise blood sugar in a small # of individuals but eating a low sugar diet usually counteracts that (or the doc can stop the treatment). I have not seen any studies to say it increases the risk of cancer when given in small, replacement doses but most HRT docs won't give it if the patient has cancer.
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Good going, Shoot! Sounds like you have an 'edumacated' background on the subject.
Here's a question for ya which I hope you can answer -
It's a known fact that back in the late 30's and onward some of the major Hollywood movie stars would make yearly trips to some European spa/clinic (the studio PR guys called them "spas") for a couple of weeks and return to Hollywood looking a lot younger.
Much later it was disclosed that their youthful appearance was a result of clinical injections which were more than likely steroids.
Any background on this? Any books ever written on this precise subject?
Thanks, Shoot!
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I have a background in this field and have studied this topic extensively. I am not on replacement myself (natural levels were still quite high) but I will be when the time comes.
I am not familiar with that stunt, I don't know what they were injecting.
www.worldhealth.net
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Have you seen his ads in magazines and newspapers? Are you buying what he's pushing or is it all bs?
http://www.cenegenics-drlife.com/index2.html
HRT is a wonderful thing!
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Hats off to this guy. Most 71 year olds are barely living. This guy looks and feels great. People should be happy for him. I don't understand the objection to older people living well...frankly, it's sick.
The objection to testosterone replacement therapy is just old. It doesn't cause prostate cancer and if given replacement doses, is very safe for the vast majority of people. If someone has prostate cancer, it's a contraindication because the prostate only needs a small amount of testosterone (threshold effect) to fuel the cancer. So, if they don't remove the prostate, docs want the testosterone as low as possible.
HGH is safe in properly chosen candidates with age related deficiency too. Docs have been using it with patients for 20 years now. They key is to replace the hormone to normal levels (just like other hormone replacement), not abuse it like bodybuilders. It does raise blood sugar in a small # of individuals but eating a low sugar diet usually counteracts that (or the doc can stop the treatment). I have not seen any studies to say it increases the risk of cancer when given in small, replacement doses but most HRT docs won't give it if the patient has cancer.
agreed with everything you say.
i think exogenous GH supplementation is a very good path to take for longevity, but if you really wanted to replace natural GH levels, the anti- aging movement is now looking at peptides such as GHRP 6/2 AND CJC 1295 which control the release of the bodies own GH production, instead of using an outside source, and 'replacing'. of course BBing has also stumbled onto this as well. legal and as effective if not better than exogenous GH administration and a fraction of the cost.
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I am not on replacement myself (natural levels were still quite high) but I will be when the time comes.
You've abused steroids yet have high natural levels - what's the secret? Most bodybuilders aren't that lucky.
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Have you seen his ads in magazines and newspapers? Are you buying what he's pushing or is it all bs?
http://www.cenegenics-drlife.com/index2.html
yeah Dupont Registry looks like BS to me
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You've abused steroids yet have high natural levels - what's the secret? Most bodybuilders aren't that lucky.
As silly as it sounds, I think that constant sex is the answer. Whenever I would go off a cycle, I would make sure I would get as much sex as possible about two weeks before I cut everything off cold turkey, and continue having sex 1-3 times a day, and I would rebound very quickly. I probably only struggled slightly at about the 2nd week mark after discontinuing, but even that wasn't too bad.
Without the sex, it would seem to take a lot longer to get back to homostasis.
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As silly as it sounds, I think that constant sex is the answer. Whenever I would go off a cycle, I would make sure I would get as much sex as possible about two weeks before I cut everything off cold turkey, and continue having sex 1-3 times a day, and I would rebound very quickly. I probably only struggled slightly at about the 2nd week mark after discontinuing, but even that wasn't too bad.
Without the sex, it would seem to take a lot longer to get back to homostasis.
Did you ever actually have levels tested?
Are you clean now? Do you know where your natural T levels are at?
I don't think "feeling recovered" necessarily means that you are.
I'm not sure about your theory, kinda doubt it matters much. But who knows.
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Did you ever actually have levels tested?
Are you clean now? Do you know where your natural T levels are at?
I don't think "feeling recovered" necessarily means that you are.
I'm not sure about your theory, kinda doubt it matters much. But who knows.
I have been clean for a long time. But when I was using I got off cycles both with and without this protocol. Never had my levels tested, but I could tell when I was shut down. There is just a very distinct feeling, that is hard to describe. Never had my levels checked. Of course I realize that this is just my anecdotal report, so take it for what its worth.
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I have been clean for a long time. But when I was using I got off cycles both with and without this protocol. Never had my levels tested, but I could tell when I was shut down. There is just a very distinct feeling, that is hard to describe. Never had my levels checked. Of course I realize that this is just my anecdotal report, so take it for what its worth.
A partial recovery of the HPTA may be enough to feel 'normal' for many but I suspect the majority of people who have done substantial cycles for a few years never quite fully rebound to their pre-steroid levels.
The data on testosterone as a contraceptive shows recovery takes several months. A single injection of 100mg of Deca takes 6 weeks to fully rebound from. Then imagine how long it takes for the average juicer shooting dozens of times more. Some study said it can take 2 years to recover, if ever.
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A partial recovery of the HPTA may be enough to feel 'normal' for many but I suspect the majority of people who have done substantial cycles for a few years never quite fully rebound to their pre-steroid levels.
The data on testosterone as a contraceptive shows recovery takes several months. A single injection of 100mg of Deca takes 6 weeks to fully rebound from. Then imagine how long it takes for the average juicer shooting dozens of times more. Some study said it can take 2 years to recover, if ever.
Part of it could be that I never juiced that much to begin with. I have probably only done three serious cycles, and maybe a couple of shorter ones...so if I had been doing it more long term its hard to say if my results would have been the same.