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Title: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Benny B on August 04, 2008, 11:45:38 AM
Senator Barack Obama has fulfilled the promise of his earlier climate plan with a detailed and comprehensive "New Energy for America" plan.

This is easily the best energy plan ever put forward by a nominee of either party. By comparison, the plan of John "Nothing but Nukes" McCain is a joke, with nothing on energy efficiency and a pointless $300 million battery prize and long-standing opposition to renewable energy. In contrast, Obama's plan has real depth and breath:


* Increase Fuel Economy Standards: Obama will increase fuel economy standards 4 percent per each year while protecting the financial future of domestic automakers....

* Invest in Developing Advanced Vehicles and Put 1 Million Plugin Electric Vehicles on the Road by 2015: As a U.S. senator, Barack Obama has led efforts to jumpstart federal investment in advanced vehicles, including combined plug‐in hybrid/flexible fuel vehicles, which can get over 150 miles per gallon of gas... [more details below]

* Partner with Domestic Automakers: Obama will also provide $4 billion retooling tax credits and
      loan guarantees for domestic auto plants and parts manufacturers, so that the new fuel‐efficient
      cars can be built in the U.S. by American workers rather than overseas.

* Mandate All New Vehicles are Flexible Fuel Vehicles

* Develop the Next Generation of Sustainable Biofuels and Infrastructure

* Establish a National Low Carbon Fuel Standard: ... The standard requires fuels suppliers in 2010 to begin to reduce the carbon of their fuel by 5 percent within 5 years and 10 percent within 10 years.


This is the only way to jumpstart an end to our addiction to oil in a climate friendly way. Indeed, an accelerated transition to plug-in hybrids and electric cars -- a core climate solution-- must be the cornerstone of any serious effort to dramatically reduce oil consumption and greenhouse gas emissions. That is the crucial litmus test for any presidential candidate's energy independence or clean transportation policy.

As for the test of a candidate's grasp of electricity policy, energy efficiency is obviously The only cheap power left and a limitless resource and THE core climate solution. Obama understands energy efficiency in a way few other major politicians do, as his plan makes clear:



* Deploy the Cheapest, Cleanest, Fastest Energy Source--Energy Efficiency: Barack Obama will set an aggressive energy efficiency goal--to reduce electricity demand 15 percent from DOE's projected levels by 2020. Implementing this program will save consumers a total of $130 billion, reduce carbon dioxide emissions by more than 5 billion tons through 2030, and create jobs. A portion of this goal would be met by setting annual demand reduction targets that utilities would need to meet.

* Set National Building Efficiency Goals: Obama will establish a goal of making all new buildings carbon neutral, or produce zero emissions, by 2030. He'll also establish a national goal of improving new building efficiency by 50 percent and existing building efficiency by 25 percent over the next decade to help us meet the 2030 goal.

* Overhaul Federal Efficiency Standards: The current Department of Energy has missed 34 deadlines for setting updated appliance efficiency standards....

* Reduce Federal Energy Consumption: ... He will make the federal government a leader in the green building market, achieving a 40 percent increase in efficiency in all new federal buildings within five years and ensuring that all new federal buildings are zero‐emissions by 2025. He will invest in cost‐effective retrofits to achieve a 25 percent increase in efficiency of existing federal buildings within 5 years.

* Invest in a Smart Grid: ... Obama will pursue a major investment in our national utility grid using smart metering, distributed storage and other advanced technologies to accommodate 21st century energy requirements: greatly improved electric grid reliability and security, a tremendous increase in renewable generation and greater customer choice and energy affordability.

* Weatherize One Million Homes Annually....

* Build More Livable and Sustainable Communities....

* Flip Incentives to Energy Utilities: An Obama administration will "flip" incentives to utility companies by: requiring states to conduct proceedings to implement incentive changes; and offering them targeted technical assistance. These measures will benefit utilities for improving energy efficiency, rather than just from supporting higher energy consumption. This "regulatory equity" starts with the decoupling of profits from increased energy usage, which will incentivize utilities to partner with consumers and the federal and state governments to reduce monthly energy bills for families and businesses. The federal government under an Obama administration will play an important and positive role in flipping the profit model for the utility sector so that shareholder profit is based on reliability and performance as opposed to total production.


Finally, a presidential nominee that really gets it (see "Energy efficiency, Part 4: How does California do it so consistently and cost-effectively?").

The proposal has lots of other details on short-term solutions and promoting the supply of domestic energy. But let me focus on his low-carbon electricity supply plan:


* Require 10 Percent of Electricity to Come from Renewable Sources by 2012 [and 25 percent by 2025]. Barack Obama will establish a 10 percent federal Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) to require that 10 percent of electricity consumed in the U.S. is derived from clean, sustainable energy sources, like solar, wind and geothermal by 2012. Many states are already well on their way to achieving statewide goals and it's time for the federal government to provide leadership for the entire country to support these new industries. This national requirement will spur significant private sector investment in renewable sources of energy and create thousands of new American jobs, especially in rural areas. And Obama will also extend the federal Production Tax Credit (PTC) for 5 years to encourage the production of renewable energy.

* Develop and Deploy Clean Coal Technology....

* Safe and Secure Nuclear Energy: ... It is unlikely that we can meet our aggressive climate goals if we eliminate nuclear power as an option. However, before an expansion of nuclear power is considered, key issues must be addressed including: security of nuclear fuel and waste, waste storage, and proliferation.... As president, Obama will make safeguarding nuclear material both abroad and in the U.S. a top anti‐terrorism priority. In terms of waste storage, Obama does not believe that Yucca Mountain is a suitable site. He will lead federal efforts to look for safe, long‐term disposal solutions based on objective, scientific analysis. In the meantime, Obama will develop requirements to ensure that the waste stored at current reactor sites is contained using the most advanced dry‐cask storage technology available.


He also repeats his climate pledge and his jobs pledge:


* Implement an economy‐wide cap‐and‐trade program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions 80 percent by 2050.

* Invest In A Clean Energy Economy and Help Create 5 Million New Green Jobs. Obama will strategically invest $150 billion over 10 years...


Finally, back to the details of the plug-in hybrid proposal:

As president, Obama will continue this leadership by investing in advanced vehicle technology with a specific focus on R&D in advanced battery technology. The increased federal funding will leverage private sector funds and support our domestic automakers to bring plug‐in hybrids and other advanced vehicles to American consumers. Obama will also provide a $7,000 tax credit for the purchase of advanced technology vehicles as well as conversion tax credits. And to help create a market and show government leadership in purchasing highly efficient cars, an Obama administration will commit to:


* Within one year of becoming President, the entire White House fleet will be converted to plug‐ins as security permits; and

* Half of all cars purchased by the federal government will be plug‐in hybrids or all‐electric by 2012.



This is an aggressive, achievable, and most important of all, a necessary energy plan. Kudos to Senator Obama and his energy team. Maybe he is The One.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: youandme on August 04, 2008, 01:01:07 PM
Wow, he's going to pay for my home to be weatherized?

I did not know he was also going to buy me a bio-fuel car.

Build more livable sustainable communities - umm so what does this entail?

"national utility grid" meaning the government will control energy output - or what does this do - enforces

only someone such as Benny "my brain is" Blanco, could think that this is a "plan"

What about his flip flop on drilling? Too many democrats got mad at him and pulled his strigns to come out with this "plan" a set of mandates that will not get meet.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: youandme on August 04, 2008, 01:04:15 PM
wow even better "The federal government under an Obama administration will play an important and positive role in flipping the profit model for the utility sector so that shareholder profit is based on reliability and performance as opposed to total production."

So the incentives are to increase price to decrease your willingness to turn the AC up.



Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: a_joker10 on August 04, 2008, 01:48:03 PM
Take 70 million barrels out of the strategic reserve.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5isOFwdbq0tsqatW6vJpkDRTI1gMgD92BIKK00
HAHAHAHA

The number one issue with America should be energy independence.
This cap doesn't provide for this.

What does this mean.
* Establish a National Low Carbon Fuel Standard: ... The standard requires fuels suppliers in 2010 to begin to reduce the carbon of their fuel by 5 percent within 5 years and 10 percent within 10 years.
How do you take carbon out of gasoline or diesel fuel or coal. How do you tell the Saudis or Venezuelanes to take the Carbon out of their processing. You can't/

He is going to royally screw your economy like Pelosi tried to do. Ban Canadian oil imit what oil does come to the US by restricting Carbon. What a bunch of tools.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: youandme on August 04, 2008, 01:52:49 PM
Take 70 million barrels out of the strategic reserve.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5isOFwdbq0tsqatW6vJpkDRTI1gMgD92BIKK00
HAHAHAHA

The number one issue with America should be energy independence.
This cap doesn't provide for this.

What does this mean.
* Establish a National Low Carbon Fuel Standard: ... The standard requires fuels suppliers in 2010 to begin to reduce the carbon of their fuel by 5 percent within 5 years and 10 percent within 10 years.
How do you take carbon out of gasoline or diesel fuel or coal. How do you tell the Saudis or Venezuelanes to take the Carbon out of their processing. You can't/

He is going to royally screw your economy like Pelosi tried to do. Ban Canadian oil imit what oil does come to the US by restricting Carbon. What a bunch of tools.

No wonder India and China gawked at the summits proposal to limit their carbon emmisons. It cannot be done unless you want to STOP the economy from producing, were talking decades, not a decade to get this done.

He's talking about mandates that won't get accomplished...then what is the punishment? TAXING

This guy is a socialist nut. This "plan" or actually rough outline, highlights his agenda to disperse wealth among the less affluent.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2008, 01:54:45 PM
I'll take a socialist over a fascist any day of the week


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: 24KT on August 04, 2008, 01:55:47 PM
Take 70 million barrels out of the strategic reserve.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5isOFwdbq0tsqatW6vJpkDRTI1gMgD92BIKK00
HAHAHAHA

The number one issue with America should be energy independence.
This cap doesn't provide for this.

What does this mean.
* Establish a National Low Carbon Fuel Standard: ... The standard requires fuels suppliers in 2010 to begin to reduce the carbon of their fuel by 5 percent within 5 years and 10 percent within 10 years.
How do you take carbon out of gasoline or diesel fuel or coal. How do you tell the Saudis or Venezuelanes to take the Carbon out of their processing. You can't

That phrase seemed odd to me as well, then I thought of what North American governments have been doing with Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel Fuels. They've been removing the aromatics and natural lubricants in the diesel, which has reduced the cetane numbers significantly. It's done in the refining process, where the fuel is cracked even further.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: 24KT on August 04, 2008, 02:05:38 PM
No wonder India and China gawked at the summits proposal to limit their carbon emmisons. It cannot be done unless you want to STOP the economy from producing, were talking decades, not a decade to get this done.

He's talking about mandates that won't get accomplished...then what is the punishment? TAXING

This guy is a socialist nut. This "plan" or actually rough outline, highlights his agenda to disperse wealth among the less affluent.

Not necessarily. I mean what if someone were to demonstrate & prove they're not polluting or producing emissions,
...I'm sure they'd be EXEMPT from any such tax wouldn't they? ...especially if you're talking about a tax on polluters

Gee, ...let's see, ...what group of people are able to prove their cars, trucks, motorcycles, snowmobiles, power plants etc have reduced their own emissions by up to 75% or more? Those who sing & dance in the rain.  (http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/whistle.gif)


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: a_joker10 on August 04, 2008, 02:31:00 PM
Lowering the Cetane levels of diesel or lowering the octane levels in cars does not lower the Carbon footprint of the fuel.

Removing the Aromatics and sulfur reduces the amount of NOx and SOx from a diesel engine.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: shootfighter1 on August 04, 2008, 02:54:48 PM
Still does not address the airline & trucking crisis which affects all businesses.
Lots of flaws IMO.  Plus, he has stated previously that he is not a big fan of nuclear unless it is clean...meaning, he's not going to expand nuclear energy...which is a big mistake.
Increasing emissions on cars is good.
We still need oil independence and to increase nuclear energy.  The majority of cars will not be battery operated by 2012.  Neither will trucks and planes.  This bullshit about less consumption is ridiculous.  You don't stiffle an economy but cutting back on driving.  Obama scares me...same idealistic vision which may not materialize.  We are not in a position to hope for the best...our congress & president must act in ways that are certain to reduce prices.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: OzmO on August 04, 2008, 03:12:00 PM
Still does not address the airline & trucking crisis which affects all businesses.
 he's not going to expand nuclear energy...which is a big mistake.



BIG is an understatement here.  Nuclear power should be the first thing we start to do aggressively.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: youandme on August 04, 2008, 03:14:09 PM

BIG is an understatement here.  Nuclear power should be the first thing we start to do aggressively.

Big time. That would be great.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: w8tlftr on August 04, 2008, 05:29:33 PM
I'll take a socialist over a fascist any day of the week

Oh really? Hitler and Mussolini were conservatives?  ???



Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: w8tlftr on August 04, 2008, 05:30:08 PM

BIG is an understatement here.  Nuclear power should be the first thing we start to do aggressively.

bump



Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2008, 05:52:06 PM
Oh really? Hitler and Mussolini were conservatives?  ???



Are you suggesting McCain and Bush are conservatives


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: youandme on August 04, 2008, 06:08:26 PM
Are you suggesting McCain and Bush are conservatives

 ::) Learn history, Hitler had a executive national police force....the same kind of National Police force the Obama has proposed


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2008, 06:49:34 PM
::) Learn history, Hitler had a executive national police force....the same kind of National Police force the Obama has proposed

what point are you trying to make exactly

If there are any parallels with Hitler let's start with Bush (especially appropriate considering his family made their wealth in part by helping finance the Nazis rise to power)



Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: 24KT on August 04, 2008, 07:05:15 PM
what point are you trying to make exactly

If there are any parallels with Hitler let's start with Bush (especially appropriate considering his family made their wealth in part by helping finance the Nazis rise to power)


Let us not forget the similarities of the false flag attacks, and the angry rhetoric full of lies that followed


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: youandme on August 04, 2008, 07:11:15 PM
what point are you trying to make exactly

If there are any parallels with Hitler let's start with Bush (especially appropriate considering his family made their wealth in part by helping finance the Nazis rise to power)




Excellent examples. The both of you.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Decker on August 04, 2008, 07:27:27 PM

BIG is an understatement here.  Nuclear power should be the first thing we start to do aggressively.
Maybe.  What do we do with the radioactive waste?  It has to be actively managed/kept for 10,000 years.

Isn't building more reactors just building more targets for Al Qaeda...hell, AQ could do much damage with just access to the waste.

Isn't the world's uranium supply only good for about 60 years worth of nuclear power?

Since nuclear power is not a renewable resource (scarce uranium) and it's waste creates more problems than it solves, why does this sound like a good alternative to you?


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: shootfighter1 on August 05, 2008, 06:33:20 AM
Seems Obama has some good ideas for longer term strategies.  However, the timelines he sets are extremely unlikely and some of these ideas sound somewhat impractical...or at least idealistic/ambitious  There's very little in that plan for relief in the next couple yrs.

Also, if none of the other economic powerhouse countries cut emissions 7 greenhouse gasses then we are handicapping ourselfes even more than we do not (by our relatively higher corporate taxes, which will go up even higher under Obama).


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: headhuntersix on August 05, 2008, 07:34:17 AM
More pie in the sky empty promises...what exactly wrong with nuclear power. I grow up 6 miles from one....they should be everywhere. If ur worried about protecting them, enlarge the DOE security police. Obama can't hope to pay for any of this...and he's going to mandate Detroit. Our automotive industry is already being strangled by Unions, and this idiot wants to lay more red tape on them. Good job socialist.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Benny B on August 05, 2008, 07:41:06 AM
More pie in the sky empty promises...what exactly wrong with nuclear power. I grow up 6 miles from one....they should be everywhere. If ur worried about protecting them, enlarge the DOE security police. Obama can't hope to pay for any of this...and he's going to mandate Detroit. Our automotive industry is already being strangled by Unions, and this idiot wants to lay more red tape on them. Good job socialist.
When will dogshit post McCain's energy plan?  ::)


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: headhuntersix on August 05, 2008, 07:50:05 AM
Ah McCain plan hasd been out for several weeks....hey benny whats happening to ur golden boy..not alot of good stuff huh..lost his Eurobounce....hmmmmm media sorta sick of his schtick as well hmmmm...yup.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Benny B on August 05, 2008, 07:52:37 AM
Ah McCain plan hasd been out for several weeks....hey benny whats happening to ur golden boy..not alot of good stuff huh..lost his Eurobounce....hmmmmm media sorta sick of his schtick as well hmmmm...yup.
When will dogshit post McCain's energy plan here?  :-\


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: headhuntersix on August 05, 2008, 07:55:39 AM
Oh I think we did...weeks ago. Please explain how he intends to do any of this...who pays for it....U can cut and paste all u want but some original thought would be nice...but I won't hold my breath. The Obamessiah should realize we generally get sick of our celebrities...


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Benny B on August 05, 2008, 08:27:31 AM
Oh I think we did...weeks ago. Please explain how he intends to do any of this...who pays for it....U can cut and paste all u want but some original thought would be nice...but I won't hold my breath. The Obamessiah should realize we generally get sick of our celebrities...
When will dogshit post McCain's energy plan here?  ::)


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: a_joker10 on August 05, 2008, 09:09:46 AM
McCain's Energy Plan
For Benny since he can't use google.
http://www.johnmccain.com//Informing/Issues/17671aa4-2fe8-4008-859f-0ef1468e96f4.htm

Our nation's future security and prosperity depends on the next President making the hard choices that will break our nation's strategic dependence on foreign sources of energy and will ensure our economic prosperity by meeting tomorrow's demands for a clean portfolio. John McCain has made the necessary choices - producing more power, pushing technology to help free our transportation sector from its use of foreign oil, cleaning up our air and addressing climate change, and ensuring that Americans have dependable energy sources. John McCain will lead the effort to develop advanced transportation technologies and alternative fuels to promote energy independence and cut off the flow of oil wealth to repressive dictatorships like Iran.

"In recent days I have set before the American people an energy plan, the Lexington Project -- named for the town where Americans asserted their independence once before. And let it begin today with this commitment: In a world of hostile and unstable suppliers of oil, this nation will achieve strategic independence by 2025."
John McCain, June 25, 2008
Read the entire speech...


Expanding Domestic Oil And Natural Gas Exploration And Production

John McCain Will Commit Our Country To Expanding Domestic Oil Exploration. The current federal moratorium on drilling in the Outer Continental Shelf stands in the way of energy exploration and production. John McCain believes it is time for the federal government to lift these restrictions and to put our own reserves to use. There is no easier or more direct way to prove to the world that we will no longer be subject to the whims of others than to expand our production capabilities. We have trillions of dollars worth of oil and gas reserves in the U.S. at a time we are exporting hundreds of billions of dollars a year overseas to buy energy. This is the largest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind. We should keep more of our dollars here in the U.S., lessen our foreign dependency, increase our domestic supplies, and reduce our trade deficit - 41% of which is due to oil imports. John McCain proposes to cooperate with the states and the Department of Defense in the decisions to develop these resources.

John McCain Believes In Promoting And Expanding The Use Of Our Domestic Supplies Of Natural Gas. When people are hurting, and struggling to afford gasoline, food, and other necessities, common sense requires that we draw upon America's own vast reserves of oil and natural gas. Within the United States we have tremendous reserves of natural gas. The Outer Continental Shelf alone contains 77 trillion cubic feet of recoverable natural gas. It is time that we capitalize on these significant resources and build the infrastructure needed to transport this important component of electricity generation and transportation fuel around the country.

Taking Action Now To Break Our Dependency On Foreign Oil By Reforming Our Transportation Sector

The Nation Cannot Reduce Its Dependency On Oil Unless We Change How We Power Our Transportation Sector.

John McCain's Clean Car Challenge. John McCain will issue a Clean Car Challenge to the automakers of America, in the form of a single and substantial tax credit for the consumer based on the reduction of carbon emissions. He will commit a $5,000 tax credit for each and every customer who buys a zero carbon emission t car, encouraging automakers to be first on the market with these cars in order to capitalize on the consumer incentives. For other vehicles, a graduated tax credit will apply so that the lower the carbon emissions, the higher the tax credit.

John McCain Will Propose A $300 Million Prize To Improve Battery Technology For Full Commercial Development Of Plug-In Hybrid And Fully Electric Automobiles. A $300 million prize should be awarded for the development of a battery package that has the size, capacity, cost and power to leapfrog the commercially available plug-in hybrids or electric cars. That battery should deliver a power source at 30 percent of the current costs. At $300 million, the prize is one dollar for every man, woman and child in this country - and a small price to pay for breaking our dependence on oil.

John McCain Supports Flex-Fuel Vehicles (FFVs) And Believes They Should Play A Greater Role In Our Transportation Sector. In just three years, Brazil went from new cars sales that were about 5 percent FFVs to over 70 percent of new vehicles that were FFVs. American automakers have committed to make 50 percent of their cars FFVs by 2012. John McCain calls on automakers to make a more rapid and complete switch to FFVs.

John McCain Believes Alcohol-Based Fuels Hold Great Promise As Both An Alternative To Gasoline And As A Means of Expanding Consumers' Choices. Some choices such as ethanol are on the market right now. The second generation of alcohol-based fuels like cellulosic ethanol, which won't compete with food crops, are showing great potential.

Today, Isolationist Tariffs And Wasteful Special Interest Subsidies Are Not Moving Us Toward An Energy Solution. We need to level the playing field and eliminate mandates, subsidies, tariffs and price supports that focus exclusively on corn-based ethanol and prevent the development of market-based solutions which would provide us with better options for our fuel needs.

John McCain Will Effectively Enforce Existing CAFE Standards. John McCain has long supported CAFE standards - the mileage requirements that automobile manufacturers' cars must meet. Some carmakers ignore these standards, pay a small financial penalty, and add it to the price of their cars. John McCain believes that the penalties for not following these standards must be effective enough to compel all carmakers to produce fuel-efficient vehicles.

Investing In Clean, Alternative Sources Of Energy

John McCain Believes That The U.S. Must Become A Leader In A New International Green Economy. Green jobs and green technology will be vital to our economic future. There is no reason that the U.S. should not be a leader in developing and deploying these new technologies.

John McCain Will Commit $2 Billion Annually To Advancing Clean Coal Technologies. Coal produces the majority of our electricity today. Some believe that marketing viable clean coal technologies could be over 15 years away. John McCain believes that this is too long to wait, and we need to commit significant federal resources to the science, research and development that advance this critical technology. Once commercialized, the U.S. can then export these technologies to countries like China that are committed to using their coal - creating new American jobs and allowing the U.S. to play a greater role in the international green economy.

John McCain Will Put His Administration On Track To Construct 45 New Nuclear Power Plants By 2030 With The Ultimate Goal Of Eventually Constructing 100 New Plants. Nuclear power is a proven, zero-emission source of energy, and it is time we recommit to advancing our use of nuclear power. Currently, nuclear power produces 20% of our power, but the U.S. has not started construction on a new nuclear power plant in over 30 years. China, India and Russia have goals of building a combined total of over 100 new plants and we should be able to do the same. It is also critical that the U.S. be able to build the components for these plants and reactors within our country so that we are not dependent on foreign suppliers with long wait times to move forward with our nuclear plans.

John McCain Will Establish A Permanent Tax Credit Equal To 10 Percent Of Wages Spent On R&D. This reform will simplify the tax code, reward activity in the U.S., and make us more competitive with other countries. A permanent credit will provide an incentive to innovate and remove uncertainty. At a time when our companies need to be more competitive, we need to provide a permanent incentive to innovate, and remove the uncertainty now hanging over businesses as they make R&D investment decisions.

John McCain Will Encourage The Market For Alternative, Low Carbon Fuels Such As Wind, Hydro And Solar Power. According to the Department of Energy, wind could provide as much as one-fifth of electricity by 2030. The U.S. solar energy industry continued its double-digit annual growth rate in 2006. To develop these and other sources of renewable energy will require that we rationalize the current patchwork of temporary tax credits that provide commercial feasibility. John McCain believes in an even-handed system of tax credits that will remain in place until the market transforms sufficiently to the point where renewable energy no longer merits the taxpayers' dollars.

Protecting Our Environment And Addressing Climate Change: A Sound Energy Strategy Must Include A Solid Environmental Foundation

John McCain Proposes A Cap-And-Trade System That Would Set Limits On Greenhouse Gas Emissions While Encouraging The Development Of Low-Cost Compliance Options. A climate cap-and-trade mechanism would set a limit on greenhouse gas emissions and allow entities to buy and sell rights to emit, similar to the successful acid rain trading program of the early 1990s. The key feature of this mechanism is that it allows the market to decide and encourage the lowest-cost compliance options.

How Does A Cap-And-Trade System Work? A cap-and-trade system harnesses human ingenuity in the pursuit of alternatives to carbon-based fuels. Market participants are allotted total permits equal to the cap on greenhouse gas emissions. If they can invent, improve, or acquire a way to reduce their emissions, they can sell their extra permits for cash. The profit motive will coordinate the efforts of venture capitalists, corporate planners, entrepreneurs, and environmentalists on the common motive of reducing emissions.

Greenhouse Gas Emission Targets And Timetables:

2012: Return Emissions To 2005 Levels (18 Percent Above 1990 Levels)
2020: Return Emissions To 1990 Levels (15 Percent Below 2005 Levels)
2030: 22 Percent Below 1990 Levels (34 Percent Below 2005 Levels)
2050: 60 Percent Below 1990 Levels (66 Percent Below 2005 Levels)

The Cap-And-Trade System Would Allow For The Gradual Reduction Of Emissions. The cap-and-trade system would encompass electric power, transportation fuels, commercial business, and industrial business - sectors responsible for just under 90 percent of all emissions. Small businesses would be exempt. Initially, participants would be allowed to either make their own GHG reductions or purchase "offsets" - financial instruments representing a reduction, avoidance, or sequestration of greenhouse gas emissions practiced by other activities, such as agriculture - to cover 100 percent of their required reductions. Offsets would only be available through a program dedicated to ensure that all offset GHG emission reductions are real, measured and verifiable. The fraction of GHG emission reductions permitted via offsets would decline over time.

Promoting Energy Efficiency

John McCain Will Make Greening The Federal Government A Priority Of His Administration. The federal government is the largest electricity consumer on earth and occupies 3.3 billion square feet of space worldwide. It provides an enormous opportunity to lead by example. By applying a higher efficiency standard to new buildings leased or purchased or retrofitting existing buildings, we can save taxpayers substantial money in energy costs, and move the construction market in the direction of green technology.

John McCain Will Move The United States Toward Electricity Grid And Metering Improvements To Save Energy. John McCain will work to reduce red tape to allow a serious investment to upgrade our national grid to meet the demands of the 21st century - which will include a capacity to charge the electric cars that will one day fill the roads and highways of America. And to save both money and electrical power for our people and businesses, we will also need to deploy SmartMeter technologies. These new meters give customers a more precise picture of their overall energy consumption, and over time will encourage a more cost-efficient use of power.

Addressing Speculative Pricing Of Oil

John McCain Believes We Must Understand The Role Speculation Is Playing In Our Soaring Energy Prices. Congress already has investigations underway to examine this kind of wagering in our energy markets, unrelated to any kind of productive commerce, because it can distort the market, drive prices beyond rational limits, and put the investments and pensions of millions of Americans at risk. John McCain believes that where we find abuses, they need to be swiftly punished. To make sure it never happens again, we must reform the laws and regulations governing the oil futures market, so that they are just as clear and effective as the rules applied to stocks, bonds, and other financial instruments.

John McCain Does Not Support A Windfall Profits Tax. A windfall profits tax on the oil companies will ultimately result in increasing our dependence on foreign oil and hinder investment in domestic exploration. Jimmy Carter put a windfall profits tax in to place with little to no useful results.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Benny B on August 05, 2008, 09:33:04 AM
For Benny since he can't use google.
That's not the point, idiot.  ::) I wouldn't expect your dumb ass to realize that. If dogshit wants to call Obama's plan "pie in the sky", it should subject McCain's plan to the same analysis. It has repeatedly stated Obama has "no energy plan" without stating McCain's.

How about posting this in a separate thread instead of piggybacking Obama's?


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: youandme on August 05, 2008, 09:36:40 AM
That's not the point, idiot.  ::) I wouldn't expect your dumb ass to realize that. If dogshit wants to call Obama's plan "pie in the sky", it should subject McCain's plan to the same analysis. It has repeatedly stated Obama has "no energy plan" without stating McCain's.

How about posting this in a separate thread instead of piggybacking Obama's?

Benny have you been in the real world.
McCain has simple solutions that rely on simple steps, drill, innovate, and conserve.
Obama has taken great lengths to draw this "plan" which involves consumers, industry, foreign countries willingness to participate, and mandates. It's so far stretched it's doomed to fail. Please report back when you come down from your intoxicating left wing, never made money hallucination, as with Obama this is a dream. 


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Benny B on August 05, 2008, 09:42:22 AM
Benny have you been in the real world.
McCain has simple solutions that rely on simple steps, drill, innovate, and conserve.
Obama has taken great lengths to draw this "plan" which involves consumers, industry, foreign countries willingness to participate, and mandates. It's so far stretched it's doomed to fail. Please report back when you come down from your intoxicating left wing, never made money hallucination, as with Obama this is a dream. 
Dogshit let you swallow today?


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: youandme on August 05, 2008, 09:44:19 AM
Dogshit let you swallow today?

Benny come on don't you have an MBA? Can't handle your distortions of reality since you don't have a job that pays above min wage? Do you know anything about the plan that can be done with-in 10 years.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Fury on August 05, 2008, 09:49:15 AM
Benny come on don't you have an MBA? Can't handle your distortions of reality since you don't have a job that pays above min wage? Do you know anything about the plan that can be done with-in 10 years.

His MBA is most likely from French Fry U. By far the dumbest homo on here. I see where he's coming from though. He thinks he's going to be King of the world if a black man like Obama gets elected President. He can't refute any points. He just hurls insults and melts down. Must be overdosing on kool aid. He's universally regarded as the biggest crybaby troll on here.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Benny B on August 05, 2008, 09:52:08 AM
His MBA is most likely from French Fry U. By far the dumbest homo on here. I see where he's coming from though. He thinks he's going to be King of the world if a black man like Obama gets elected President. He can't refute any points. He just hurls insults and melts down. Must be overdosing on kool aid. He's universally regarded as the biggest crybaby troll on here.
haha!
Getbig's resident ugly titty baby is back. You finish your homework yet, or are you sneaking computer time while mommy is out buying the groceries? Better not let mom and dad catch you!


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Fury on August 05, 2008, 09:55:31 AM
haha!
Getbig's resident ugly titty baby is back. You finish your homework yet, or are you sneaking computer time while mommy is out buying the groceries? Better not let mom and dad catch you!

Why don't you go and show to Getbig how much of an insecure homo you are again like you did in that thread with Chick about "fashion." Thousands of posts, hundreds of meltdowns and constantly talking about how great you look, yet ZERO pics. Safe to say that you're an ugly child who is as insecure as they come.  ;D


Do you enjoy being 40 years old and throwing temper tantrums like an 8 year old girl?


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: 240 is Back on August 05, 2008, 09:56:58 AM
For Benny since he can't use google.

Actually, not being about to use "the google" qualifies one to win the Republican nomination ;)


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Benny B on August 05, 2008, 10:01:46 AM
Why don't you go and show to Getbig how much of an insecure homo you are again like you did in that thread with Chick about "fashion." Thousands of posts, hundreds of meltdowns and constantly talking about how great you look, yet ZERO pics. Safe to say that you're an ugly child who is as insecure as they come.  ;D


Do you enjoy being 40 years old and throwing temper tantrums like an 8 year old girl?
Do you enjoy being an ugly 20 year old who can't get laid and has a face not even a mother could love? 

I love how you follow me around and regurgitate old posts of mine...what an obedient child.  :D


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Fury on August 05, 2008, 10:03:57 AM
Do you enjoy being an ugly 20 year old who can't get laid and has a face not even a mother could love? 

I love how you follow me around and regurgitate old posts of mine...what an obedient child.  :D

Insecure black man meltdown!!!!!!


Don't worry Jerome Abdullah Mohammed Tyson, regardless of whether or not Obama wins the Presidency, you'll still be an incredibly insecure, poor black man who blames whitey for all your shortcomings and failures.  ;D


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Benny B on August 05, 2008, 10:16:07 AM
Insecure black man meltdown!!!!!!
Hideous white man's pathetic comeback!!!!

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Don't worry Jerome Abdullah Mohammed Tyson, regardless of whether or not Obama wins the Presidency, you'll still be an incredibly insecure, poor black man who blames whitey for all your shortcomings and failures.  ;D
Don't worry Nicolai Goldberg Abromowicz Hersch, regardless of whether Obama wins the presidency, you will still be ugly as sin and struggling to finish college while blaming blacks and hispanics for all the problems in your life.  :D

 


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Fury on August 05, 2008, 10:34:05 AM
Hideous white man's pathetic comeback!!!!

Don't worry Jerome Abdullah Mohammed Tyson, regardless of whether or not Obama wins the Presidency, you'll still be an incredibly insecure, poor black man who blames whitey for all your shortcomings and failures.  ;D

Don't worry Nicolai Goldberg Abromowicz Hersch, regardless of whether Obama wins the presidency, you will still be ugly as sin and struggling to finish college while blaming blacks and hispanics for all the problems in your life.  :D

 

Wow, you just took the bulk of my insult and tried to use it against me. Looks like my hypothesis that you're an MBA graduate of French Fry University was correct.

It's ok, studies show that the average black IQ is 85 while the average white IQ is 95. The average Jew IQ is even higher. Ugly, insecure and stupid. Talk about getting dealt a shitty hand in life. Congrats on bringing up the rear though, Ahmad Abdullah Bin Jerome!  ;D


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Benny B on August 05, 2008, 10:47:43 AM
Wow, you just took the bulk of my insult and tried to use it against me. Looks like my hypothesis that you're an MBA graduate of French Fry University was correct.

It's ok, studies show that the average black IQ is 85 while the average white IQ is 95. The average Jew IQ is even higher. Ugly, insecure and stupid. Talk about getting dealt a shitty hand in life. Congrats on bringing up the rear though, Ahmad Abdullah Bin Jerome!  ;D
Congratulations, you've just made a nonsensical post. It looks as though my premise that your ugly ass will be struggling to graduate from college for years to come.

It's ok, there are plastic surgeons that can work with children that have overly large teeth and a grill that looks like the face of a horse. Don't worry, Nicolai Abromowicz Hersch, one day you will come to terms with the fact that you are a pussy repellent Jew!  :D


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Fury on August 05, 2008, 10:59:28 AM
Ahh yes, the thick lipped black man with the apeish features and delusions of looking attractive while not posting a pic. You know, no one on this board believes your attempts justify the fact that you got shit on in life. Anyone with as much of a hard-on as you for attacking others (all of them white) without posting a pic usually falls under the category of insecure, ugly and retarded.

Congratulations, you're a 40 year old racist troll on a bodybuilding forum! Keep on compensating for the fact that your life sucks! Masters from French Fry U. only go so far! ;D



Just remember that Obama winning the presidency won't give you a 100 IQ, make you white or take away the train wreck that is your face, Mr. Insecurity.  ;)


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Benny B on August 05, 2008, 11:16:54 AM
Ahh yes, the thick lipped black man with the apeish features and delusions of looking attractive while not posting a pic. You know, no one on this board believes your attempts justify the fact that you got shit on in life. Anyone with as much of a hard-on as you for attacking others (all of them white) without posting a pic usually falls under the category of insecure, ugly and retarded.
Racist Jew meltdown!  ;D

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Congratulations, you're a 40 year old racist troll on a bodybuilding forum! Keep on compensating for the fact that your life sucks! Masters from French Fry U. only go so far! ;D
I guess all of us who aren't like you - an ugly dude ashamed of your Jewish heritage- have a life that sucks, eh? You are an amusing child...I guess that is why I decided to play with you today.  :) No doubt when mommy takes away the computer for the day you'll be off to your minimum wage job at the bagging groceries to pay for your college text books. Keep plugging away, junior! One day you'll make it! Maybe today will be the day you finally get laid too!  :-\

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Just remember that Obama winning the presidency won't give you a 100 IQ, make you white or take away the train wreck that is your face, Mr. Insecurity.  ;)
Your posts are too redundant. It must be a wonderful education you're getting at that Connecticut community college.  ::) When you've acquired the education I have maybe you won't be insecure and mad at the world because you were born Jewish and ugly, Nicolai Goldberg Abomowicz Hesch.
Shalom!   ;D


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Fury on August 05, 2008, 11:30:39 AM
I'm not going to bother reading that. But I notice that you're attacking Jews. I'm sorry big guy, but you were born black. That's as bad as it gets. A racist black. I'm shocked.  ::)

Highest AIDS rates of any race, the lowest IQs, absolutely no contributions to society. Nothing.

The only thing your people are good for is leeching off the government and committing crime. Blacks make up 30 million of this country's 300+ million population, yet they comprise the overwhelming majority of people in our jails.

MattC has tons of studies showing that black IQs are the lowest among any race on the planet. Jews are the highest. Jews are more successful than blacks across the board. While they're winning Nobel Prizes and advancing the human race, most blacks are too busy wearing pants that show their ass crack and robbing people while bouncing to rap music. Not to even mention that blacks are far and away the most racist people on the planet. I guess I would be too if I felt like I was entitled to everything without having to work for it.  :D

Safe to say only a black man would lie through his teeth and say that he would rather be born black.





But hey, you're 40 years old, poor and insecure. I can't really help but feel sorry for you knowing that you waste away hours every day here attacking every white person and trying to make yourself feel better for the fact that you're ugly, poor and black. I'm sorry dude, but you're nothing more than a laughing stock to me. It's embarrassing that this is how you spend your time at your age. If that's not a failure at life, then I don't know what is.




Don't bother refuting me, you're black.  ;D


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: 24KT on August 05, 2008, 01:10:29 PM
McCain's Energy Plan

John McCain believes in an even-handed system of tax credits that will remain in place until the market transforms sufficiently to the point where renewable energy no longer merits the taxpayers' dollars.

Protecting Our Environment And Addressing Climate Change: A Sound Energy Strategy Must Include A Solid Environmental Foundation

John McCain Proposes A Cap-And-Trade System That Would Set Limits On Greenhouse Gas Emissions While Encouraging The Development Of Low-Cost Compliance Options. A climate cap-and-trade mechanism would set a limit on greenhouse gas emissions and allow entities to buy and sell rights to emit, similar to the successful acid rain trading program of the early 1990s. The key feature of this mechanism is that it allows the market to decide and encourage the lowest-cost compliance options.

How Does A Cap-And-Trade System Work?  A cap-and-trade system harnesses human ingenuity in the pursuit of alternatives to carbon-based fuels. Market participants are allotted total permits equal to the cap on greenhouse gas emissions. If they can invent, improve, or acquire a way to reduce their emissions, they can sell their extra permits for cash. The profit motive will coordinate the efforts of venture capitalists, corporate planners, entrepreneurs, and environmentalists on the common motive of reducing emissions.

In other words... BIG TAXES!!! Do you know that cap and trade means taxing polluters?
While I understand this mechanism will cause profits in my business to soar, especially in our commercial division as corporations and power plants look to ways of reducing their NOx output and other smog & greenhouse gas precursors, ...the bottom line is that it spells big taxes, ...especially for the skeptics of our technology.   :D

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John McCain Does Not Support A Windfall Profits Tax. A windfall profits tax on the oil companies will ultimately result in increasing our dependence on foreign oil and hinder investment in domestic exploration. Jimmy Carter put a windfall profits tax in to place with little to no useful results.

That's BS. A tax on oil companies will stimulate an expedited transition to alternative energies.
Yes, Jimmy Carter's plan was derailed by the election of Ronald Reagan and Bush 41 who plunged us into a huge recession with his trickle down nonsense.

It may sound good on paper, ...but it's like most of McCain's policy proposals thus far; smoke and mirrors.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: w8tlftr on August 06, 2008, 03:13:25 PM
Are you suggesting McCain and Bush are conservatives

Hell no.

But neither were Hitler or Mussolini.

They were socialists.




Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: 24KT on August 07, 2008, 10:58:06 AM
Obama's Energy Plan for America

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC1A8dLkRWM

This is real change towards a renewed and more energy independent and secure America



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUCviUwEZkg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPPLSHKH0h4


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 28, 2010, 01:57:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erCjtiiwx30


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 07:12:02 AM
BENNY = FFFFAAAAIIIILLLLLLL

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/22/AR2010112207583.html

Retrained for green jobs, but still waiting on work

By Michael A. Fletcher
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, November 22, 2010; 10:07 PM




OCALA, FLA. - After losing his way in the old economy, Laurance Anton tried to assure his place in the new one by signing up for green jobs training earlier this year at his local community college.

Anton has been out of work since 2008, when his job as a surveyor vanished with Florida's once-sizzling housing market. After a futile search, at age 56 he reluctantly returned to school to learn the kind of job skills the Obama administration is wagering will soon fuel an employment boom: solar installation, sustainable landscape design, recycling and green demolition.

Anton said the classes, funded with a $2.9 million federal grant to Ocala's workforce development organization, have taught him a lot. He's learned how to apply Ohm's law, how to solder tiny components on circuit boards and how to disassemble rather than demolish a building.

The only problem is that his new skills have not resulted in a single job offer. Officials who run Ocala's green jobs training program say the same is true for three-quarters of their first 100 graduates.

"I think I have put in 200 applications," said Anton, who exhausted his unemployment benefits months ago and now relies on food stamps and his dwindling savings to survive. "I'm long past the point where I need some regular income."

With nearly 15 million Americans out of work and the unemployment rate hovering above 9 percent for 18 consecutive months, policymakers desperate to stoke job creation have bet heavily on green energy. The Obama administration channeled more than $90 billion from the $814 billion economic stimulus bill into clean energy technology, confident that the investment would grow into the economy's next big thing.

The infusion of money is going to projects such as weatherizing public buildings and constructing advanced battery plants in the industrial Midwest, financing solar electric plants in the Mojave desert and training green energy workers.

But the huge federal investment has run headlong into the stubborn reality that the market for renewable energy products - and workers - remains in its infancy. The administration says that its stimulus investment has saved or created 225,000 jobs in the green energy industry, a pittance in an economy that has shed 7.5 million jobs since the recession took hold in December 2007.

The industry's growth has been undercut by the simple economic fact that fossil fuels remain cheaper than renewables. Both Obama administration officials and green energy executives say that the business needs not just government incentives, but also rules and regulations that force people and business to turn to renewable energy.

Without government mandates dictating how much renewable energy utilities must use to generate electricity, or placing a price on the polluting carbon emitted by fossil fuels, they say, green energy cannot begin to reach its job creation potential.

"We keep getting these stops and starts in the industry. There is no way it can work like this," said Bill Gallagher, president of Solar-Fit, a Florida energy company whose fortunes have fluctuated with government incentives in its 35 years in business.

Like many people who run renewable energy companies, Gallagher said he sees no need to expand his 25-employee firm because the business is simply not there.

Although 29 states have enacted laws setting benchmarks for the amount of energy utilities must generate from renewable sources such as wind and solar, the standards vary greatly. And with a new congressional majority poised to take office - including many members elected pledging to reduce Washington's role in the economy - it remains an open question whether new federal regulations that would support expansion of the industry would be enacted anytime soon.

"Green energy investment has been a central talking point of the Obama administration's job growth strategy," said Samuel Sherraden, a policy analyst at the New America Foundation, a nonpartisan research organization. "It was a little bit too ambitious given the size and depth of the recession and the small size of the renewable energy industry."

Sherraden said it was unwise for the administration to invest so heavily in green energy, at least if short-term job creation was the goal. He said green energy comes with "political and market uncertainty" that has overwhelmed its job creation potential.

Despite that, Obama has described the surge of clean energy spending as crucial both to the nation's economic and environmental future.

"Our future as a nation depends on making sure that the jobs and industries of the 21st century take root here in America," Obama said in October. "And there is perhaps no industry with more potential to create jobs now - and growth in the coming years - than clean energy."

But other administration officials acknowledge that it is likely to be years before the spending on green energy produces large numbers of jobs. And they add that only part of the money earmarked for green energy has been spent. They also agree that the government will have to help create demand to support green energy.

Still, they are optimistic for the long term, even if the spending will not significantly ease the nation's unemployment crisis in the short run.

The money going into building car battery plants, for example, could allow the nation to capture as much as 40 percent of the global demand in that growing business in five to seven years, said Carol M. Browner, director of the White House Office of Energy and Climate Change Policy.

"This stuff is coming on line," Browner said. "We all want it to come on line much more quickly."

Here in Ocala, the federal emphasis on green energy was eagerly embraced by local officials grasping for ways to blunt the area's skyrocketing jobless rate, which now stands at 14 percent.

The housing crisis had decimated the local economy, wiping out thousands of jobs that will probably never return. There were huge losses in construction jobs. Several plants that made building supplies and home furnishings have gone out of business. And last year, Taylor Bean and Whitaker, a mortgage company that employed more than 1,000 people, suddenly closed.

Now with real estate development not predicted to resume its former breakneck pace anytime in the foreseeable future, the local economy is left without an obvious source of new jobs.

That means many of the real estate agents, construction workers, mortgage brokers, kitchen cabinet makers, retail clerks and building supply people thrown out of work are going to have to find new careers. The overhang of workers who will need new skills to find work in new industries made the promise of green energy jobs all the more appealing.

When Workforce Connection, Ocala's regional work force development board, applied for a federal green jobs training grant last year, its top goal was to retrain 665 workers in green jobs skills with "immediate employment potential."

Ocala seemed like a good place to bet on green energy, particularly solar. The region's various window companies and other light manufacturing firms, coupled with its strategic location as a southeastern distribution hub make it a natural, local officials said.

"We felt like the expertise of a lot of the companies here translated easily to making solar panels and such," said Rusty Skinner, chief executive officer of Workforce Connection. "When you think of it, a solar panel is nothing more than a window with some added mechanisms."

Meanwhile, central Florida's abundant sunshine made the idea of marketing solar hot water heaters and solar electrical systems to nearby homeowners seem like a winning proposition.

But those assumptions have yet to pan out.

Federal incentives, which cover 30 percent of the installation costs, were offset by a state energy policy in disarray. Funding for a Florida program that offered rebates to residents and businesses who invested in solar energy was suspended earlier this year, leaving more than $50 million in claims up in the air and paralyzing the solar energy business.

Although Florida officials recently decided to use federal stimulus money to pay down part of the backlog of claims, the damage had been done. The turmoil over the incentive programs meant installation firms and manufacturers no longer had a reason to expand, green energy advocates said.

"There is no growth in this industry right now," said Colleen Kettles, executive director of the Florida Solar Research and Education Foundation. "In fact, some are going out of business."

Meanwhile, many of the unemployed workers who have retrained for jobs in the green energy business are out of luck.

Carols Arandia, 59, has earned seven green jobs certificates since beginning classes this year, while renting a room from a friend to weather the hard times.

Often studying well into the night, Arandia is familiar with hard work. He ran a small manufacturing business in his native Venezuela before arriving in the United States in 1996. For years, he lugged around a dictionary and a notebook in which he religiously wrote down words and phrases until his English became passable. He worked seven years at Boston Chicken. Later, he sold cars.

But now, after nearly two years of being out of work and a series of classes that have not led to a job, his optimism is dimming.

"What is the point of giving somebody the tools to do something but to have nowhere to use them?" he asked. "I think it's a great program, but I don't see the connection with all the training and jobs. And I need a job."

Christine Bageant, 45, also jumped at the opportunity to train in green jobs, after losing her position at the county library. She viewed the new classes as an opportunity to "get in on the ground floor of something big."

Since then she has earned similar training certificates as Arandia. A few months ago she started looking for work as a painter. She thought her newly acquired expertise in abating lead paint would make her a hot commodity.

But many of the painting contractors she has interviewed with are tiny companies, with no more than two or three employees. They are struggling to survive, and Bageant's expertise in lead abatement has left them unimpressed.

"Right now they are blowing it off," she shrugged. "They don't think it's important."

Officials who helped develop the training program nod knowingly when asked about the difficulty graduates are having landing jobs.

"I think this is a great program," said Peter J. Tesch, president and chief executive of the Ocala/Marion County Economic Development Corp. "Applying it to real life, that is the challenge. In a place like Florida everybody's talking the talk, but they're not walking the walk. The market place has not caught up to the technical training and skill sets that have been provided these people."

That much was obvious at a recent ceremony for 15 graduates of a solar electric training class. The students beamed proudly as family members took pictures and program officials offered words of wisdom.

Then, one-by-one, they walked up front to receive their certificates. But rather than serving as a passport to a job, the certificates were more like IOUs to be redeemed sometime in the distant future.

"There is significant job creation potential in clean energy. But it is not revealing itself quickly or clearly," said Jerone Gamble, executive manager of continuing education at the College of Central Florida, and a chief architect of the green jobs training program. "In the time being, we're really selling hope."



Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 29, 2010, 12:33:21 PM
Senator Barack Obama has fulfilled the promise of his earlier climate plan with a detailed and comprehensive "New Energy for America" plan.

This is easily the best energy plan ever put forward by a nominee of either party. By comparison, the plan of John "Nothing but Nukes" McCain is a joke, with nothing on energy efficiency and a pointless $300 million battery prize and long-standing opposition to renewable energy. In contrast, Obama's plan has real depth and breath:


* Increase Fuel Economy Standards: Obama will increase fuel economy standards 4 percent per each year while protecting the financial future of domestic automakers....

* Invest in Developing Advanced Vehicles and Put 1 Million Plugin Electric Vehicles on the Road by 2015: As a U.S. senator, Barack Obama has led efforts to jumpstart federal investment in advanced vehicles, including combined plug‐in hybrid/flexible fuel vehicles, which can get over 150 miles per gallon of gas... [more details below]

* Partner with Domestic Automakers: Obama will also provide $4 billion retooling tax credits and
      loan guarantees for domestic auto plants and parts manufacturers, so that the new fuel‐efficient
      cars can be built in the U.S. by American workers rather than overseas.

* Mandate All New Vehicles are Flexible Fuel Vehicles

* Develop the Next Generation of Sustainable Biofuels and Infrastructure

* Establish a National Low Carbon Fuel Standard: ... The standard requires fuels suppliers in 2010 to begin to reduce the carbon of their fuel by 5 percent within 5 years and 10 percent within 10 years.


This is the only way to jumpstart an end to our addiction to oil in a climate friendly way. Indeed, an accelerated transition to plug-in hybrids and electric cars -- a core climate solution-- must be the cornerstone of any serious effort to dramatically reduce oil consumption and greenhouse gas emissions. That is the crucial litmus test for any presidential candidate's energy independence or clean transportation policy.

As for the test of a candidate's grasp of electricity policy, energy efficiency is obviously The only cheap power left and a limitless resource and THE core climate solution. Obama understands energy efficiency in a way few other major politicians do, as his plan makes clear:



* Deploy the Cheapest, Cleanest, Fastest Energy Source--Energy Efficiency: Barack Obama will set an aggressive energy efficiency goal--to reduce electricity demand 15 percent from DOE's projected levels by 2020. Implementing this program will save consumers a total of $130 billion, reduce carbon dioxide emissions by more than 5 billion tons through 2030, and create jobs. A portion of this goal would be met by setting annual demand reduction targets that utilities would need to meet.

* Set National Building Efficiency Goals: Obama will establish a goal of making all new buildings carbon neutral, or produce zero emissions, by 2030. He'll also establish a national goal of improving new building efficiency by 50 percent and existing building efficiency by 25 percent over the next decade to help us meet the 2030 goal.

* Overhaul Federal Efficiency Standards: The current Department of Energy has missed 34 deadlines for setting updated appliance efficiency standards....

* Reduce Federal Energy Consumption: ... He will make the federal government a leader in the green building market, achieving a 40 percent increase in efficiency in all new federal buildings within five years and ensuring that all new federal buildings are zero‐emissions by 2025. He will invest in cost‐effective retrofits to achieve a 25 percent increase in efficiency of existing federal buildings within 5 years.

* Invest in a Smart Grid: ... Obama will pursue a major investment in our national utility grid using smart metering, distributed storage and other advanced technologies to accommodate 21st century energy requirements: greatly improved electric grid reliability and security, a tremendous increase in renewable generation and greater customer choice and energy affordability.

* Weatherize One Million Homes Annually....

* Build More Livable and Sustainable Communities....

* Flip Incentives to Energy Utilities: An Obama administration will "flip" incentives to utility companies by: requiring states to conduct proceedings to implement incentive changes; and offering them targeted technical assistance. These measures will benefit utilities for improving energy efficiency, rather than just from supporting higher energy consumption. This "regulatory equity" starts with the decoupling of profits from increased energy usage, which will incentivize utilities to partner with consumers and the federal and state governments to reduce monthly energy bills for families and businesses. The federal government under an Obama administration will play an important and positive role in flipping the profit model for the utility sector so that shareholder profit is based on reliability and performance as opposed to total production.


Finally, a presidential nominee that really gets it (see "Energy efficiency, Part 4: How does California do it so consistently and cost-effectively?").

The proposal has lots of other details on short-term solutions and promoting the supply of domestic energy. But let me focus on his low-carbon electricity supply plan:


* Require 10 Percent of Electricity to Come from Renewable Sources by 2012 [and 25 percent by 2025]. Barack Obama will establish a 10 percent federal Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) to require that 10 percent of electricity consumed in the U.S. is derived from clean, sustainable energy sources, like solar, wind and geothermal by 2012. Many states are already well on their way to achieving statewide goals and it's time for the federal government to provide leadership for the entire country to support these new industries. This national requirement will spur significant private sector investment in renewable sources of energy and create thousands of new American jobs, especially in rural areas. And Obama will also extend the federal Production Tax Credit (PTC) for 5 years to encourage the production of renewable energy.

* Develop and Deploy Clean Coal Technology....

* Safe and Secure Nuclear Energy: ... It is unlikely that we can meet our aggressive climate goals if we eliminate nuclear power as an option. However, before an expansion of nuclear power is considered, key issues must be addressed including: security of nuclear fuel and waste, waste storage, and proliferation.... As president, Obama will make safeguarding nuclear material both abroad and in the U.S. a top anti‐terrorism priority. In terms of waste storage, Obama does not believe that Yucca Mountain is a suitable site. He will lead federal efforts to look for safe, long‐term disposal solutions based on objective, scientific analysis. In the meantime, Obama will develop requirements to ensure that the waste stored at current reactor sites is contained using the most advanced dry‐cask storage technology available.


He also repeats his climate pledge and his jobs pledge:


* Implement an economy‐wide cap‐and‐trade program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions 80 percent by 2050.

* Invest In A Clean Energy Economy and Help Create 5 Million New Green Jobs. Obama will strategically invest $150 billion over 10 years...


Finally, back to the details of the plug-in hybrid proposal:

As president, Obama will continue this leadership by investing in advanced vehicle technology with a specific focus on R&D in advanced battery technology. The increased federal funding will leverage private sector funds and support our domestic automakers to bring plug‐in hybrids and other advanced vehicles to American consumers. Obama will also provide a $7,000 tax credit for the purchase of advanced technology vehicles as well as conversion tax credits. And to help create a market and show government leadership in purchasing highly efficient cars, an Obama administration will commit to:


* Within one year of becoming President, the entire White House fleet will be converted to plug‐ins as security permits; and

* Half of all cars purchased by the federal government will be plug‐in hybrids or all‐electric by 2012.



This is an aggressive, achievable, and most important of all, a necessary energy plan. Kudos to Senator Obama and his energy team. Maybe he is The One.


I wish Obama would have included in his speeches that his plan was to give waivbrs to the biggest contributors the same laws the rest of us have to adhere to. 

Once again - BENNY/OBAMA/TA/MAL = DISASTER 


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 11, 2011, 11:57:55 AM
Senator Barack Obama has fulfilled the promise of his earlier climate plan with a detailed and comprehensive "New Energy for America" plan.

This is easily the best energy plan ever put forward by a nominee of either party. By comparison, the plan of John "Nothing but Nukes" McCain is a joke, with nothing on energy efficiency and a pointless $300 million battery prize and long-standing opposition to renewable energy. In contrast, Obama's plan has real depth and breath:


* Increase Fuel Economy Standards: Obama will increase fuel economy standards 4 percent per each year while protecting the financial future of domestic automakers....

* Invest in Developing Advanced Vehicles and Put 1 Million Plugin Electric Vehicles on the Road by 2015: As a U.S. senator, Barack Obama has led efforts to jumpstart federal investment in advanced vehicles, including combined plug‐in hybrid/flexible fuel vehicles, which can get over 150 miles per gallon of gas... [more details below]

* Partner with Domestic Automakers: Obama will also provide $4 billion retooling tax credits and
      loan guarantees for domestic auto plants and parts manufacturers, so that the new fuel‐efficient
      cars can be built in the U.S. by American workers rather than overseas.

* Mandate All New Vehicles are Flexible Fuel Vehicles

* Develop the Next Generation of Sustainable Biofuels and Infrastructure

* Establish a National Low Carbon Fuel Standard: ... The standard requires fuels suppliers in 2010 to begin to reduce the carbon of their fuel by 5 percent within 5 years and 10 percent within 10 years.


This is the only way to jumpstart an end to our addiction to oil in a climate friendly way. Indeed, an accelerated transition to plug-in hybrids and electric cars -- a core climate solution-- must be the cornerstone of any serious effort to dramatically reduce oil consumption and greenhouse gas emissions. That is the crucial litmus test for any presidential candidate's energy independence or clean transportation policy.

As for the test of a candidate's grasp of electricity policy, energy efficiency is obviously The only cheap power left and a limitless resource and THE core climate solution. Obama understands energy efficiency in a way few other major politicians do, as his plan makes clear:



* Deploy the Cheapest, Cleanest, Fastest Energy Source--Energy Efficiency: Barack Obama will set an aggressive energy efficiency goal--to reduce electricity demand 15 percent from DOE's projected levels by 2020. Implementing this program will save consumers a total of $130 billion, reduce carbon dioxide emissions by more than 5 billion tons through 2030, and create jobs. A portion of this goal would be met by setting annual demand reduction targets that utilities would need to meet.

* Set National Building Efficiency Goals: Obama will establish a goal of making all new buildings carbon neutral, or produce zero emissions, by 2030. He'll also establish a national goal of improving new building efficiency by 50 percent and existing building efficiency by 25 percent over the next decade to help us meet the 2030 goal.

* Overhaul Federal Efficiency Standards: The current Department of Energy has missed 34 deadlines for setting updated appliance efficiency standards....

* Reduce Federal Energy Consumption: ... He will make the federal government a leader in the green building market, achieving a 40 percent increase in efficiency in all new federal buildings within five years and ensuring that all new federal buildings are zero‐emissions by 2025. He will invest in cost‐effective retrofits to achieve a 25 percent increase in efficiency of existing federal buildings within 5 years.

* Invest in a Smart Grid: ... Obama will pursue a major investment in our national utility grid using smart metering, distributed storage and other advanced technologies to accommodate 21st century energy requirements: greatly improved electric grid reliability and security, a tremendous increase in renewable generation and greater customer choice and energy affordability.

* Weatherize One Million Homes Annually....

* Build More Livable and Sustainable Communities....

* Flip Incentives to Energy Utilities: An Obama administration will "flip" incentives to utility companies by: requiring states to conduct proceedings to implement incentive changes; and offering them targeted technical assistance. These measures will benefit utilities for improving energy efficiency, rather than just from supporting higher energy consumption. This "regulatory equity" starts with the decoupling of profits from increased energy usage, which will incentivize utilities to partner with consumers and the federal and state governments to reduce monthly energy bills for families and businesses. The federal government under an Obama administration will play an important and positive role in flipping the profit model for the utility sector so that shareholder profit is based on reliability and performance as opposed to total production.


Finally, a presidential nominee that really gets it (see "Energy efficiency, Part 4: How does California do it so consistently and cost-effectively?").

The proposal has lots of other details on short-term solutions and promoting the supply of domestic energy. But let me focus on his low-carbon electricity supply plan:


* Require 10 Percent of Electricity to Come from Renewable Sources by 2012 [and 25 percent by 2025]. Barack Obama will establish a 10 percent federal Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) to require that 10 percent of electricity consumed in the U.S. is derived from clean, sustainable energy sources, like solar, wind and geothermal by 2012. Many states are already well on their way to achieving statewide goals and it's time for the federal government to provide leadership for the entire country to support these new industries. This national requirement will spur significant private sector investment in renewable sources of energy and create thousands of new American jobs, especially in rural areas. And Obama will also extend the federal Production Tax Credit (PTC) for 5 years to encourage the production of renewable energy.

* Develop and Deploy Clean Coal Technology....

* Safe and Secure Nuclear Energy: ... It is unlikely that we can meet our aggressive climate goals if we eliminate nuclear power as an option. However, before an expansion of nuclear power is considered, key issues must be addressed including: security of nuclear fuel and waste, waste storage, and proliferation.... As president, Obama will make safeguarding nuclear material both abroad and in the U.S. a top anti‐terrorism priority. In terms of waste storage, Obama does not believe that Yucca Mountain is a suitable site. He will lead federal efforts to look for safe, long‐term disposal solutions based on objective, scientific analysis. In the meantime, Obama will develop requirements to ensure that the waste stored at current reactor sites is contained using the most advanced dry‐cask storage technology available.


He also repeats his climate pledge and his jobs pledge:


* Implement an economy‐wide cap‐and‐trade program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions 80 percent by 2050.

* Invest In A Clean Energy Economy and Help Create 5 Million New Green Jobs. Obama will strategically invest $150 billion over 10 years...


Finally, back to the details of the plug-in hybrid proposal:

As president, Obama will continue this leadership by investing in advanced vehicle technology with a specific focus on R&D in advanced battery technology. The increased federal funding will leverage private sector funds and support our domestic automakers to bring plug‐in hybrids and other advanced vehicles to American consumers. Obama will also provide a $7,000 tax credit for the purchase of advanced technology vehicles as well as conversion tax credits. And to help create a market and show government leadership in purchasing highly efficient cars, an Obama administration will commit to:


* Within one year of becoming President, the entire White House fleet will be converted to plug‐ins as security permits; and

* Half of all cars purchased by the federal government will be plug‐in hybrids or all‐electric by 2012.



This is an aggressive, achievable, and most important of all, a necessary energy plan. Kudos to Senator Obama and his energy team. Maybe he is The One.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: George Whorewell on March 11, 2011, 12:25:38 PM
STOP! STOP USING FACTS AND LOGIC! IT'S RACIST!


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: GigantorX on March 11, 2011, 04:55:18 PM


RACIST POST REPORTED


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 11, 2011, 05:06:08 PM
Dylan ratigan admitted today that the media and left refuse to criticize the bama due to his race. 

Not me - I don't give a fuck one bit.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 01, 2011, 07:54:35 PM
Bump. 


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 04, 2011, 07:00:48 AM
Bump.   I guess 4 dollars a gallon is the plan Benny? 


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 15, 2011, 05:32:43 AM

June 15, 2011
Obama Concedes Energy Policy Remains "a Hodgepodge"‹‹Previous Page |1 | 2 |
By Alexis Simendinger




As he travels across the country touting jobs, innovation and his re-election, President Obama consistently talks up an energy agenda for the future. And when he says future, he really means it. The president has in his mind a timetable distant enough for the U.S. reduction of global warming pollutants, for instance, that his daughters could be middle-aged before his energy goals are realized.

"We said that we've got to start investing in clean energy because as long as we are vulnerable to a system in which we have 2 percent of the world's oil reserves, but we use 25 percent of the world's oil, we'll never have our economy on a firm footing -- not to mention the environmental consequences of continuing to rely on fossil fuels," Obama said Tuesday at a speech in Miami. "And so we made the largest investment in clean energy in our history."

Obama's is a big-picture agenda praised as visionary by supporters and disastrous by critics. Regardless, a gridlocked Congress, attentive to the 2012 elections and riveted by their constituents' more immediate woes, won't be tackling major energy legislation for the remainder of Obama's current term in office. They will wait to see who occupies the White House and how control stacks up in Congress in 2013.

The 2009 cap-and-trade legislation Obama marched through the House died a slow death in the Senate when regional and partisan disagreements undercut the required 60 votes to get the legislation on and off the floor. Following an exhausting health care battle, and heading into a high-profile battle to clamp down on big banks last year, senators found themselves out of energy for energy. Then in the fall, House Democrats lost seats when opponents attacked them for supporting Obama's "cap and tax" agenda.

Other initiatives beyond those meant to curb climate change -- policies that require legislation -- also remain stalled. Meanwhile, opponents want to block -- in Congress or in the courts -- aspects of the administration's regulatory muscle tied to existing laws, such as the Clean Air Act.

In a season in which GOP presidential opponents are accusing the president of making the country less secure as its dependence on high-priced foreign oil continues, Obama finds himself on the defensive. Modest or future achievements -- such as higher vehicle fuel-efficiency requirements starting in 2017 and beyond -- don't quite appease liberals who backed Obama in 2008, and many of his bolder energy aspirations remain that: aspirations.

"My plan isn't just about making dirty energy expensive," Obama said as he began campaigning for the presidency in 2007. "It's about making clean energy affordable."

That was the Obama plan before the recession veered toward a depression and 8 million jobs evaporated. His embrace of more domestic oil drilling was overtaken by a BP oil spill catastrophe that poisoned the Gulf of Mexico. And the president had barely issued his call for more nuclear power generation in the United States when an earthquake and tsunami in Japan produced the worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl.

During his campaign, Obama and his team embraced the idea of higher fuel prices to discourage gasoline consumption. With gasoline prices averaging close to $4 a gallon and households holding down consumption in a tough economy, Republicans have turned the president's earlier logic against him. Oil price spikes -- not something the president envisioned -- turn out to be something the White House cannot control.

On Tuesday, economist Douglas Elmendorf, the director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, told reporters at a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor that another oil price spike is one of the economic risks he worries about as the recovery remains fragile.


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But from an economic standpoint, while higher energy prices undermine consumer confidence and squeeze household budgets, one bright spot may be the relative impermanence of the inflationary impact as long as pump prices come back down, Elmendorf said. "The general lesson of the past few decades is that even pretty big swings in oil prices do not have lasting effects on core prices."

Obama's brand of energy futurism, depending on how it is framed, could yet fall flat -- even if plenty of voters endorse his policies in the broadest terms. A patriotic, competitive message focused on "winning the future" when going head-to-head with China and other U.S. competitors does well in voter focus groups, according to one recent report.

"The future [policy] focus is on investing in education, protecting Medicare and investing in innovation and energy to create the middle-class jobs of the future," said the authors of a multi-stage Democracy Corps survey released June 2 that focused on the economy. It was conducted by Democratic firm Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research. The pollsters advised Democrats that a concentration on the future, rather than the past or what the president and the party inherited in 2009, was especially effective with "new Obama voters and suburban voters."

High gas prices are front and center this summer, and if that weren't enough, tornadoes, floods, joblessness and lewd lawmakers also seize public attention in ways that outstrip the president's enthusiasms for innovations in LED lighting and electric cars.

Meanwhile, futurists in the Republican Party have their own agenda, and energy is not on it. They are concentrating on the country's deficits, debt and unsustainable federal commitments.

"The Republicans' focus is almost entirely on the scale of the debt problem, the need for government to live within its means and the need for urgent action," the Democracy Corps research noted. "Their strongest messages are more positive and focus on the future. Their policy is smaller government and not passing on big debts to our children; lower taxes that grow small business and create middle-class jobs. They are centered in one element of people's current understanding of the economy, but they are suggesting they can raise incomes and create jobs, too. It shows they 'get it,' " the pollsters wrote.

In Miami Tuesday, the president joked that all manner of harrowing events keep scrambling his once-orderly roster of campaign promises. "We've been busy," Obama quipped after running through a lengthy list of domestic and global hot potatoes. "That doesn't count the pirates, the pandemic, the oil spills," he continued. "Bin Laden," shouted a member of the audience. "Bin Laden, yeah, that was another thing we did," the president agreed, as listeners applauded.

"We've got more work to do," Obama continued. "Our energy policy still is just a hodgepodge, and for all the progress we've made, we're not where we need to be in making sure that this is an energy-efficient economy that is running on all cylinders."

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Alexis Simendinger covers the White House for RealClearPolitics. She can be reached at asimendinger@realclearpolitics.com.

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Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 18, 2011, 06:26:49 AM
Exxon, U.S. Government Duel Over Huge Oil Find
By RUSSELL GOLD


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903596904576514762275032794.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection



Exxon Mobil Corp. is fighting with the U.S. government to keep control of one of its biggest oil discoveries ever, in a showdown where billions of dollars hang in the balance for both sides.

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.The massive Gulf of Mexico discovery contains an estimated one billion barrels of recoverable oil, the company says. The Interior Department, which regulates offshore drilling, says Exxon's leases have expired and the company hasn't met the requirements for an extension. Exxon has sued to retain the leases.

The court battle is playing out at a time in which the Obama administration has made an issue of unused leases, which deprive the Treasury of valuable taxes. It also comes as regulators are being careful not to be seen as lax in their dealings with large energy companies in the wake of last year's BP PLC spill.

The stakes are high: Under federal law, the leases—and all the oil underneath—could revert to the government if Exxon doesn't win in court.

The loss of the leases would be an enormous black eye for Exxon. The company hadn't previously disclosed the size of the discovery in what is called the Julia field until it was mentioned in the suit Exxon filed against the Interior Department last week in federal court in Lake Charles, La.

The Texas behemoth faces the sobering prospect that it may have made the largest discovery ever in the Gulf of Mexico only to lose it. Tens of billions of dollars of oil could slip through its hands because it failed to follow federal rules for getting a lease extension while it moved forward with plans to get the oil out of the ground.

Exxon spokesman Patrick McGinn said the company expected to get the extension, which he said was traditionally granted as a matter of course. "You state your case and you got it. [This] was unexpected."

This high-stakes standoff is likely to spark a political, as well as legal, showdown between the federal government and the nation's largest oil company. It has also roped in Norway's Statoil ASA, which owns 50% of the Julia find. Statoil said it filed its own suit Monday in the same Louisiana federal court against the Interior Department to preserve the leases. Exxon is the field's operator and lease holder.

A spokeswoman for the Interior Department said, "Our priority remains the safe development of the nation's offshore energy resources, which is why we continue to approve extensions that meet regulatory standards."

The Interior Department, which oversees offshore oil development and collects royalties, has been trying to show that it has become a tougher, but still fair, regulator of the Gulf of Mexico's oil riches. Its reputation was battered during the massive Deepwater Horizon well blowout and oil spill last year, when BP sought—and the government approved—last-minute changes to the well design, which some investigators say contributed to a chaotic environment aboard the drilling rig. The government was roundly criticized for weak oversight of safety rules.

Now the department must decide whether to fight Exxon in court or settle and allow it to develop the oil. Turning the leases over to another company would mean further delays to the tax royalties that would go to government coffers. At current prices, potential royalties paid to the government over the lifetime of a one billion-barrel field would be about $10.95 billion.

The oil industry, led vocally by Exxon, has said that developing oil fields in the deepest reaches of the Gulf takes time to do safely. And by threatening to take away a massive discovery, the industry says that the government is sending the message that oil companies need to be in a rush to produce.

The possibility that Exxon could lose this oil will likely send shock waves through the industry. "This is unprecedented," said Amy Myers Jaffe, associate director of the Energy Program at Rice University in Houston. "The question is: Do our offshore rules allow for flexibility? You don't want to let companies sit on a discovery…We definitely don't want to send the industry a message that you need to be in a rush or we'll take the oil away from you."

Exxon's lawsuit said the government has granted "thousands" of extensions over time. It said the government's denial of its extension relied on legal interpretations that it "had never before applied and had never before articulated." Statoil asserted in its lawsuit that no request for an extension for a deep-water development "had ever previously been denied." The Interior Department couldn't comment on this.

The Exxon discovery is believed to be the largest in the Gulf of Mexico since BP found the Thunder Horse Field in 1999, and it could be larger. The find also cements the Gulf of Mexico as a rich exploration area with large amounts of undiscovered oil that may keep oil companies active for years to come.

"This is very deep water, very complex structures and difficult-to-produce oil," said Exxon's Mr. McGinn.

The dispute over Exxon's plans for the Julia field began in October 2008—about a month before its 10-year leases expired—when it applied for a five-year "suspension of production."

Such extensions are "fairly common," said Elmer P. Danenberger III, a former federal official who oversaw U.S. offshore-drilling rules until he retired in 2009.

"I can honestly say that people who manage that program are really strict, which they need to be or it will be abused. If you don't have a commercial discovery and a plan for moving ahead at the end of the lease term…that's it."

In February 2009, the government denied Exxon's request for an extension and after a brief appeal denied it again that April. Exxon said in a letter at the time that it was "committed" to producing the oil, but the government said it didn't present a specific plan. The government contended this didn't meet legal requirements and denied the application.

More appeals followed, but Exxon lost its final appeal in May. The final decision hinged on whether Exxon had a concrete "commitment" to produce the oil in December 2008, when its lease expired. The director of the Office of Hearings and Appeals at the Interior Department ruled that it didn't.

Exxon is known in the industry for moving slowly and studying all options exhaustively before committing billions of dollars. But even if it loses this court case, all might not be lost. The Julia field consists of five leases—or square blocks in the Gulf of Mexico—and only three are being disputed. The other two aren't set to expire until 2013.

—Deborah Solomon

and Angel Gonzalez contributed to this article.
Write to Russell Gold at russell.gold@wsj.com



Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2012, 07:51:48 PM
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Senators warn new EPA rules would raise gas prices
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Published January 13, 2012 | FoxNews.com


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Senators from both sides of the aisle are warning that looming EPA regulations on gasoline could impose billions of dollars in additional costs on the industry and end up adding up to 25 cents to every gallon of gas. 

The senators, in a letter this week to EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson, urged the agency to back off the yet-to-be-released regulations. Though the EPA has not yet issued any proposal, they claimed the agency is planning to call for a new requirement to reduce the sulfur content in gasoline. 

Citing the nearly $3.40-a-gallon average price of gas and the state of the economy, the senators said "now is not the time for new regulations that will raise the price of fuel even further." 

They said it would be "expensive" for companies to meet the sulfur targets and cited a study that found it could add up to $17 billion in industry-wide, up-front expenses, in addition to another $13 billion in annual operating costs. 

This could in turn add between 12 and 25 cents to an average gallon of gasoline "depending on the stringency of the proposed rule," they wrote. 

"If the EPA does not proceed carefully with its regulations, the nationwide price of fuel could increase to the further detriment of consumers and businesses," the senators warned. 

The lawmakers on the letter were: Sens. James Inhofe, R-Okla.; Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska; John Barrasso, R-Wyo.; Mary Landrieu, D-La.; David Vitter, R-La.; and Mark Begich, D-Alaska. 

The EPA did not comment on the senators' complaints. 

Asked Friday for a response to the concerns, the EPA said: "EPA is still in the process of developing the proposal." 

An EPA official said publicly in November that the agency was developing the so-called "Tier 3" standards proposal during a House subcommittee hearing. 

Margo Oge, director of the EPA's Office of Transportation and Air Quality, told lawmakers that the proposal would help the country meet its "clean air goals." 

"Motor vehicles and their fuel are an important source of compounds that form air pollution," she said. 

Oge said reducing sulfur in gasoline would make emission control technology more effective, and "the end result would be cleaner air." 

If the EPA formally issues the proposal, it would probably take more than a year for the agency to review public comments and finalize any plan. 

A Senate Republican aide said the authority to tighten the sulfur standards comes from the Clean Air Act but noted that EPA has the discretion to either impose the standards or not. 

The current sulfur standard is 30 parts per million in gasoline -- that's down from a prior standard of 300 parts per million. The new proposal could bring the standard down to 10 parts per million, according to the senators who wrote to Jackson 

The aide said there was a "bigger benefit" when the standard dropped from 300 to 30 parts per million. But squeezing that down to 10 parts per million, the aide said, might not offer as much bang for the buck. 

"They're extraordinarily expensive relative to the last round of sulfur reductions," the aide told FoxNews.com.

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Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Shockwave on January 13, 2012, 08:19:44 PM
Fucking worthless. EPA needs to be fucking disbanded, seems like they dont even operate in reality, all about pushing their agenda on people and they dont give a damn who it hurts.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2012, 08:21:44 PM
Fucking worthless. EPA needs to be fucking disbanded, seems like they dont even operate in reality, all about pushing their agenda on people and they dont give a damn who it hurts.


It's intentional.   Obama is trying to collapse the nation. 


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 09, 2012, 06:20:12 AM
Plan?    What plan?  Where is it? 


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 19, 2012, 06:24:29 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/raymond-j-learsy/has-the-energy-department_b_1608277.html



Lol.   Even HP admitting Obama energy Dept is failure and a joke.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: JBGRAY on June 20, 2012, 01:39:47 AM
Oh, its Benny B, the mindless liberal automaton.  I'd love to pull open your mouth with my filth-encrusted hands, peer down your gaping maw, and ask if there is a soul in there.  :D

Human contribution to actual global warming is a myth...for the most part.  The world's foremost climate scientists have even stated that human activity may account for around 2% of the actual warming....and that is debatable(read it in Superfreakanomics, so I reckon it is valid).  It seems that the whole global warming phenemenon is highly politicized on both ends of the spectrum.....and that the only way to fix things is by taxing people a lot more or repressing scientific data they may disagree with.  To me, it simply looks like a racket to give certain cronies government handouts to create so-called Green jobs(hello, Solyndra).

America is not Europe.  We cannot copy their methods of transportation....we are too spread out.  Half of all new car sales are light pickup trucks.  I have a large Dodge Hemi Ram pickup truck and a large SUV.  I utilize the truck for a variety of things and often transport larger amounts of people in both.  In regards to today's gas prices, purchasing a Chevy Volt, Toyota Prius, or Smart Car is actually MORE expensive than continuing to drive your gas gulping clunker.......do you really think you can just take any of those cars to your local garage for repair?  NO, you have to take them to the dealership where you'll get raped in repair costs.  In addition, having a so-called efficient vehicle makes it impossible to haul shit around from Home Depot or pull people out of lakes when it rains down here.

The enviro-nuts are fuckin' morons, spouting off at the mouth about shit they've never researched.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 27, 2013, 08:50:05 AM
Via Washington Examiner:

Chase Power, the parent company behind the $3 billion Las Brisas coal power plant in Corpus Christi, Texas, announced yesterday that it was cancelling the project.

“Chase Power … has opted to suspend efforts to further permit the facility and is seeking alternative investors as part of a plan of dissolution for the parent company,” Chase CEO Dave Freysinger told the Corpus Christi Caller-Times.

Freysinger made it very clear who was responsible for the projects death. “The (Las Brisas Energy Center) is a victim of EPA’s concerted effort to stifle solid-fuel energy facilities in the U.S., including EPA’s carbon-permitting requirements and EPA’s New Source Performance Standards for new power plants,” he said.

The Las Brisas power plant had been part of a larger Las Brisas Energy Center project planned for Corpus Christi’s Inner Harbor.Economists had projected that in the first 5 years of construction and operation the project would create as 1,300 direct and 2,600 indirect jobs. Now none of those jobs will exist.

“These costly rules exceeded the bounds of EPA authority, incur tremendous costs, and produce no real benefits related to climate change,” Freysinger commented


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: blacken700 on January 27, 2013, 09:36:50 AM
repubs america

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mobU0j331DY


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: George Whorewell on January 27, 2013, 01:03:20 PM
repubs america

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mobU0j331DY

That is actually Red China. You know, the same Country that Obama wishes he was in charge of. The same Country that make the New York Times Editorial shoot in their pants because China is such a shining example to America. The same country that liberal stooge and corporate puppet Jerffery Immelt (CEO of GE) praises on a regular basis.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: dario73 on January 27, 2013, 08:12:24 PM
That is actually Red China. You know, the same Country that Obama wishes he was in charge of. The same Country that make the New York Times Editorial shoot in their pants because China is such a shining example to America. The same country that liberal stooge and corporate puppet Jerffery Immelt (CEO of GE) praises on a regular basis.

Libtards try to make everyone forget about their history, past statements, beliefs and "ideas".

HEHEHEHE!!!

Now they want us forget their love affair with China.


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: blacken700 on January 28, 2013, 07:15:53 AM
Libtards try to make everyone forget about their history, past statements, beliefs and "ideas".

HEHEHEHE!!!

Now they want us forget their love affair with China.

i guess you missed the point,not surprising,this is what the u.s would look like without rules or regulations and no epa. oh and what's with the laugh, hehehehehe, unless your a girl  ;D


Title: Re: Obama Delivers A Real Energy Plan For America
Post by: Necrosis on January 28, 2013, 08:13:57 AM
More pie in the sky empty promises...what exactly wrong with nuclear power. I grow up 6 miles from one....they should be everywhere. If ur worried about protecting them, enlarge the DOE security police. Obama can't hope to pay for any of this...and he's going to mandate Detroit. Our automotive industry is already being strangled by Unions, and this idiot wants to lay more red tape on them. Good job socialist.

maybe try reading two posts above yours. It is non-renewable, it's clear what source of energy we should be pushing for, renewable. Look at Germany.

Besides the points that Decker raised, I think chernobyl and the recent issues in Japan indicate the volatility of Nuclear Power, besides it being scarce unless physics catches up sometime soon.