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Title: 2008 NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Lift Studios on November 21, 2008, 08:30:18 PM
How I saw the show go down.

Supers - The show looks like it belongs to Nunn but props to Atoyan for being at what looks to be his all-time best. Steve Kuclo also brought his best and will be in a top five spot. At 23 years old Steve showed loads of potential. Tre Brewer looks tons better than Jr. Nationals with a much more stream-lined physique.

Heavyweights - It looks like a battle between Alvisi, Liberatore and Huh. I'd actually give the nod to Jason Huh as he has a better back than Liberatore. Alvisi looked like he has better shape and in better conditioning than Liberatore. Liberatore will most likely take the class though.

Light-Heavy - Peter Putnam will take this class but he was far from his best. He had the worst tanning in the whole show as he was turning green in spots. He did get harder as he posed and has great wheels. Peter will most likely breathe a sigh of relief tomorrow as he was able to be good enough to beat the others. Ron Avidan feels Al Auguste took the class by a bit over Peter. Al Auguste looks to be in the runner-up spot with Chulsey Graham in third. I'd go Darrell Terrell fourth.

Middleweight - I have Guy Cisternino winning this class with Jeff Cook in second. Ronald Torres in third and Kam Gallman fourth.

Welterwight - I have Jocelyn Jean in first and JB Bartlett in second. Theodore Atkins in third. Atkins has a ton of potential and watch out for this guy in the future. Mark Ritter in fourth and Kevin Ofurum in fifth.

Lightweight could go between Marvin Ward and Leonardo Racheco.







Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: The Coach on November 21, 2008, 08:37:52 PM
How I saw the show go down.

Supers - The show looks like it belongs to Nunn but props to Atoyan for being at what looks to be his all-time best. Steve Kuclo also brought his best and will be in a top five spot. At 23 years old Steve showed loads of potential. Tre Brewer looks tons better than Jr. Nationals with a much more stream-lined physique.

Heavyweights - It looks like a battle between Alvisi, Liberatore and Huh. I'd actually give the nod to Jason Huh as he has a better back than Liberatore. Alvisi looked like he has better shape and in better conditioning than Liberatore. Liberatore will most likely take the class though.

Light-Heavy - Peter Putnam will take this class but he was far from his best. He had the worst tanning in the whole show as he was turning green in spots. He did get harder as he posed and has great wheels. Peter will most likely breathe a sigh of relief tomorrow as he was able to be good enough to beat the others. Ron Avidan feels Al Auguste took the class by a bit over Peter. Al Auguste looks to be in the runner-up spot with Chulsey Graham in third. I'd go Darrell Terrell fourth.

Middleweight - I have Guy Cisternino winning this class with Jeff Cook in second. Ronald Torres in third and Kam Gallman fourth.

Welterwight - I have Jocelyn Jean in first and JB Bartlett in second. Theodore Atkins in third. Atkins has a ton of potential and watch out for this guy in the future. Mark Ritter in fourth and Kevin Ofurum in fifth.

Lightweight could go between Marvin Ward and Leonardo Racheco.







Where do you think Dan Decker placed?


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: regmac on November 21, 2008, 08:44:46 PM
thanks for the info     I have class tonight.   I rarely ever follow the Nats   being from LA.  The USA has always been my show.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Alex23 on November 21, 2008, 08:49:26 PM
thanks for the info     I have class tonight.   I rarely ever follow the Nats   being from LA.  The USA has always been my show.

Please tell us more.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: musclecenter on November 21, 2008, 08:52:01 PM
Full Prejudging Picshttp://www.flexonline.com/2008_npc_nationals_report/news/624 (http://www.flexonline.com/2008_npc_nationals_report/news/624)

Peter Putnam's tanning??? ???


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: musclecenter on November 21, 2008, 08:56:54 PM
Mark Alvisi (heavyweight)


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: The Coach on November 21, 2008, 08:58:27 PM
Judging by those pics, if Putnam wins it's a definate fix and scam.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: musclecenter on November 21, 2008, 08:59:28 PM
Marvin Ward(lightweight)


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: jude2 on November 21, 2008, 09:06:32 PM
Marvin Ward first easy.  I think this guy Torres in the MW class, but it is hard to beat one of Dave's guys.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: jtsunami on November 21, 2008, 09:08:52 PM
LOL it looks like Putnam ran out of roids.


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=248274.0;attach=287571;image)


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: elite_lifter on November 21, 2008, 09:11:17 PM
PP does not look good at all!


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: pjaffe on November 21, 2008, 09:28:30 PM
pics of brewer?  ???


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Relentless on November 21, 2008, 09:29:52 PM
LOL it looks like Putnam ran out of roids.


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=248274.0;attach=287571;image)

Oh geez....


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: nycbull on November 21, 2008, 09:30:27 PM
think PUtnam looks great..great flow and old school look...


doesnt look like he was in a pose yet in the 2nd pic


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Relentless on November 21, 2008, 09:36:14 PM
pics of brewer?  ???

Go over to MD - they have a few up.  Brewer will not be turning pro tomorrow, that's for sure.  The kid is regressing...


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: tbombz on November 21, 2008, 09:36:48 PM
nunn is shreddeeeddddddddd (look at those pecs  :o ) and atoyans quads look disguntingly sick...  gotta give the edge to nunn based on those pics bu they both loook freakishly awesome


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: m8 on November 21, 2008, 09:40:33 PM
Flexonline first with shitty pics as usual.
Not one guy looks decent on them.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Alex23 on November 21, 2008, 09:43:09 PM
think PUtnam looks great..great flow and old school look...
doesnt look like he was in a pose yet in the 2nd pic


Looks like he's on his way out.. .


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: pjaffe on November 21, 2008, 09:43:47 PM
This vid was about the only thing I could find.  Doesn't really look like anything special.  Listen to these BSN toolbags though, oh brother  ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUB4hPHstmE


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Disgusted on November 21, 2008, 09:43:52 PM
You can always count on most of these guys screwing up at the last minute by using diuretics insulin and improper carb up. Amazing that these guys never learn. Sean and Troy look terrible and I am at a loss as to why Putnam looks so bad.  ???


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Relentless on November 21, 2008, 09:45:37 PM
This vid was about the only thing I could find.  Doesn't really look like anything special.  Listen to these BSN toolbags though, oh brother  ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUB4hPHstmE

I wonder what Ronnie REALLY thinks about Trey Brewer and his future in BBing.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: m8 on November 21, 2008, 09:48:39 PM
hahaaaa, good ufcking job flexonline.

(http://www.flexonline.com/08contests/08nationals/super_heavyweight/Sean_Allan/images/_MG_3107.jpg)


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Relentless on November 21, 2008, 09:49:39 PM
You can always count on most of these guys screwing up at the last minute by using diuretics insulin and improper carb up. Amazing that these guys never learn. Sean and Troy look terrible and I am at a loss as to why Putnam looks so bad.  ???

I don't understand how these guys spend so much time, effort and money on BBing, yet screw up royally at contest time.  Honestly, I think quite a few of these people don't know how to THINK for themselves and just do whatever their "guru" tells them.

What exactly are the responsibilities for a contest prep guru anyway?


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: nycbull on November 21, 2008, 09:51:55 PM
I don't understand how these guys spend so much time, effort and money on BBing, yet screw up royally at contest time.  Honestly, I think quite a few of these people don't know how to THINK for themselves and just do whatever their "guru" tells them.

What exactly are the responsibilities for a contest prep guru anyway?

really who are these phantom 'gurus'?  please step forward and identify yourselves.



Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Disgusted on November 21, 2008, 09:53:15 PM
I don't understand how these guys spend so much time, effort and money on BBing, yet screw up royally at contest time.  Honestly, I think quite a few of these people just don't know how to THINK for themselves and just do whatever their "guru" tells them.

What exactly are the responsibilities for a contest prep guru anyway?


All kidding aside it is a huge responsibility. You sometimes hold the guys win in your very actions. You tell them what to eat drink and so forth.  Funny thins is I if I am actually at the show I usually would lose about 5 to 7 pounds over the weekend from nerves.  ;D


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Relentless on November 21, 2008, 09:54:48 PM

All kidding aside it is a huge responsibility. You sometimes hold the guys win in your very actions. You tell them what to eat drink and so forth.  Funny thins is I if I am actually at the show I usually would lose about 5 to 7 pounds over the weekend from nerves.  ;D

Anybody have an idea who was advising Kevin Levrone when he won the Nationals in 1992?


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Disgusted on November 21, 2008, 09:55:43 PM
I like Alex so no disrespect intended, but another example of doing the wrong thing once again. I hope he can pull things together in time.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Disgusted on November 21, 2008, 09:57:22 PM
Anybody have an idea who was advising Kevin Levrone when he won the Nationals in 1992?


Met the guy once, but can't remember his name.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Lift Studios on November 21, 2008, 10:30:07 PM
I like Alex so no disrespect intended, but another example of doing the wrong thing once again. I hope he can pull things together in time.

Unfortunately for Alex he won't make the top 5. He's more like 8-9th. He was in a tough class and genetically he just doesn't have it to contend. He also wasn't as sharp with his conditioning has he was in his preview photos or even last night at weigh-ins.

Ed Nunn is my pick for the overall. Tiny waist, great conditioning and if he has a weakness it would be his chest but he's the best guy in the show. Steve showed great promise at only 23 years old. If he can add more detail to his back and come in a bit sharper from behind he'll be tough to beat.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Disgusted on November 21, 2008, 10:34:09 PM
Unfortunately for Alex he won't make the top 5. He's more like 8-9th. He was in a tough class and genetically he just doesn't have it to contend. He also wasn't as sharp with his conditioning has he was in his preview photos or even last night at weigh-ins.

Damn, genetics aside his best conditioning which unfortunately is always in the gym would have put him in the running I would think, too bad.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Lift Studios on November 21, 2008, 10:41:17 PM
Damn, genetics aside his best conditioning which unfortunately is always in the gym would have put him in the running I would think, too bad.

His conditioning was off at the show but the top 5 guys packed a good deal more muscle. He improved from his showing last year though.

Tre showed definite improvement from Jr. Nationals and was much, much lighter.



Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: musclecenter on November 22, 2008, 01:54:04 AM
Trey Brewer


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Wiggs on November 22, 2008, 01:54:25 AM
Nunn looks incredible! :o


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: musclecenter on November 22, 2008, 02:00:28 AM
Peter Putnam

&



 Sean Allan










Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: musclecenter on November 22, 2008, 02:12:44 AM
 :o


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: musclecenter on November 22, 2008, 02:34:00 AM
Prejudging Wrapup with Shawn Ray and Dave Palumbo
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1852/216/ (http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1852/216/)


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: musclecenter on November 22, 2008, 04:34:06 AM
Call-out and commentary ,with Bob Chick:
http://boards.flexonline.com/ib/ikonboard.cgi?s=0f0a87684c3d16454eacb3fb33254e67;act=ST;f=1;t=13526 (http://boards.flexonline.com/ib/ikonboard.cgi?s=0f0a87684c3d16454eacb3fb33254e67;act=ST;f=1;t=13526)


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: bigmikecox on November 22, 2008, 05:26:55 AM
You can always count on most of these guys screwing up at the last minute by using diuretics insulin and improper carb up. Amazing that these guys never learn. Sean and Troy look terrible and I am at a loss as to why Putnam looks so bad.  ???

EXACTLY!!!!  Its amazing how good a lot of guys looked at the weigh in and now they have just got flat and small. 


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Disgusted on November 22, 2008, 12:23:51 PM
I'm at a loss for words. Is there anyone else in this show that looks good and if so why all this pics of putnam and Allen? Not only is Putnam's conditiong off, but from the rear he honestly looks like he couldn't place in a local show.

Trey looks bad too. Sad things is these guys will look so much better in a couple of days anfter drinking some fluids and eating some sodium. If I were Trey and Sean I would do just that cause they have nothing to loose at this point.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: bigmikecox on November 22, 2008, 01:58:35 PM
His conditioning was off at the show but the top 5 guys packed a good deal more muscle. He improved from his showing last year though.

Tre showed definite improvement from Jr. Nationals and was much, much lighter.



WTF????  He was SHREDDED last week...If you are in shape the Sunday before the show there is no excuse for not looking the same the day of the show.  Carb loading, insulin, diuretics....Keep it simple


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: BuffD on November 22, 2008, 03:46:26 PM
Guys make drastic changes to try to get a drastic result.  Sodium deplete then load, dropping water, increasing carbs, using slin and diuretics. It's nuts. Everyone wants the golden formula when all they need to do is to keep doing what they have been doing that made them look so great a week before the show.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Disgusted on November 22, 2008, 05:34:36 PM
Guys make drastic changes to try to get a drastic result. 

and it works everytime.  ;)


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: BobbyHasBeenBad on November 22, 2008, 10:08:22 PM
Putnam winning is a disgrace. His personality is dry as crap to boot.

Sean Allen look like total crap as well.

Ed Nunn.....the future of this sport.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on November 22, 2008, 10:36:46 PM
I'm at a loss for words. Is there anyone else in this show that looks good and if so why all this pics of Putnam and Allen? Not only is Putnam's conditiong off, but from the rear he honestly looks like he couldn't place in a local show.

I never understood the hype behind Putnum.  He looks awful at this show.  I still cannot understand why he ever got a Flex magazine cover?  If he wins his division I will never again watch another NPC show.  It will be the biggest political scam ever laid on us by the NPC.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Disgusted on November 22, 2008, 10:39:10 PM
I never understood the hype behind Putnum.  He looks awful at this show.  I still cannot understand why he ever got a Flex magazine cover?  If he wins his division I will never again watch another NPC show.  It will be the biggest political scam ever laid on us by the NPC.


Guess we're never gonna go to another NPC show.  :'(   ;D


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on November 22, 2008, 10:41:35 PM

Guess we're never gonna go to another NPC show.  :'(   ;D

Oh please ...... Dear Lord ..... don't tell me he actually won???????


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Disgusted on November 22, 2008, 10:44:30 PM
Oh please ...... Dear Lord ..... don't tell me he actually won???????

Just got a text. This sport is soooooo going down hill.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: webcake on November 22, 2008, 10:45:37 PM
Just got a text. This sport is soooooo going down hill.

wow... :-\


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Honour on November 22, 2008, 10:52:03 PM
Wow as well........ :P


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Lift Studios on November 23, 2008, 05:48:49 AM
Props to Ed Nunn for the win. He's contemplating doing the 2009 IRONMAN.



Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Relentless on November 23, 2008, 10:51:42 AM
Putnam winning is a disgrace. His personality is dry as crap to boot.

Sean Allen look like total crap as well.

Ed Nunn.....the future of this sport.

Putnam is a blonde haired, blue eyed guy with a very attractive wife who happens to be an IFBB figure competitor.  Unfortunately, some people think these are more important qualities than the guy having a physique worthy of being a pro.

THE END


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: aliamini on November 23, 2008, 12:05:23 PM
Congrats to Edward Nunn on winning the overall at the nationals …

Jeff Long seems to be doing worse … even though he pax some sick amount of muscle considering he is around 5’5”

Still can’t figure out what is so impressive about Putnam (except Jessica) … my vote would have definitely gone to Auguste

Foster and ward … pro card … cant see that going any where

 


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 23, 2008, 02:39:27 PM
putnam looks like absolute shit, that is nowhere NEAR a pro caliber physique.. WTF ?!?


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: flexingtonsteele on November 24, 2008, 01:14:00 AM
Ed Nunn looked fantastic, Liberatore looked ok, and the guy who finished second to him looked good as well.

But overall this was a very dissapointing nationals. I saw more flabby asses, loose skin, and chubby faces than I do at the line at the local dairy queen. Its like conditioning doesnt even matter anymore.

And dont get me started on the guys who looked good one week out and looked like shit on the day of the show. Its rediculous.

And one last thing, I think about every 1 out of 5 competitors had gyno!! thats rediculous.


What a shitty shitty show!


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Howard on November 24, 2008, 07:56:15 AM
think PUtnam looks great..great flow and old school look...


doesnt look like he was in a pose yet in the 2nd pic
I agree with that and he has a great overall classic line to his physique. Having said that I suspect he just squeeked by as his conditioning was not 100% on. It was close, but his win was legit in my opinion.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on November 24, 2008, 08:50:48 AM
I agree with that and he has a great overall classic line to his physique. Having said that I suspect he just squeeked by as his conditioning was not 100% on. It was close, but his win was legit in my opinion.

With all due respect to you Howard (since we have chatted in person).... I don't think anyone here agrees with you.  I don't see anything "classic about his lines"?  No physique can be that classic with such a weak back?  And I'm not "hating" on Putnum since I don't know him in person (and heard he is a nice guy) .... but his physique was not worthy of a pro card win in a weak division.  Just seems everyone agree's Auguste had the better package?


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: njflex on November 24, 2008, 11:06:42 AM
WARD is good enough and would win the overall in any show other than usa's or nationals.n.a's or t.u. he would have legitimate shot at overall,he is packed head to toe in size for what 5'2 unreal,but he is a pro already ,and will do alright in 202.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: nder98 on November 24, 2008, 06:36:23 PM
Full Prejudging Picshttp://www.flexonline.com/2008_npc_nationals_report/news/624 (http://www.flexonline.com/2008_npc_nationals_report/news/624)

Peter Putnam's tanning??? ???

Gimmie a freggin break


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Relentless on November 24, 2008, 08:56:37 PM
With all due respect to you Howard (since we have chatted in person).... I don't think anyone here agrees with you.  I don't see anything "classic about his lines"?  No physique can be that classic with such a weak back?  And I'm not "hating" on Putnum since I don't know him in person (and heard he is a nice guy) .... but his physique was not worthy of a pro card win in a weak division.  Just seems everyone agree's Auguste had the better package?

This is a man who understands bodybuilding!


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: regmac on November 25, 2008, 04:52:39 PM
Please tell us more.
Being in LA, the USA THE TOP NATIONAL SHOW on this side of the Country.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: rudylrichards on November 27, 2008, 10:59:43 PM
Call-out and commentary ,with Bob Chick:
http://boards.flexonline.com/ib/ikonboard.cgi?s=0f0a87684c3d16454eacb3fb33254e67;act=ST;f=1;t=13526 (http://boards.flexonline.com/ib/ikonboard.cgi?s=0f0a87684c3d16454eacb3fb33254e67;act=ST;f=1;t=13526)
Myself and alot of the guys backstage thought Brewer and Kulco got absolute gifts while Marshal should have been top 3 if not 2nd.  Glad to see these guys expressed similar opinions.  Nunn looked amazing and deserved the class and overall victory.. all the best to him in the pros


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: debbiebramwell on November 29, 2008, 04:37:24 PM
Judging by those pics, if Putnam wins it's a definate fix and scam.
 

Yup! he DIDNT win because he had the best phyisque...god bless him ..I heard he is a nice guy...but there were so many physiques that were way better....politics all the way....I heard he was gonna get it....as a competitor myself it would bother me if I was handed a gift and someone else deserved it...its not his fault he won though.........My boy darrell Terrell got overlooked and so did Monty Mabry.....thats bodybuilding for you....also Mark Alvsi had the edge and should of had that one too........Ed nunn was freaking unreal! he will make a great pro! 


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on November 29, 2008, 04:43:49 PM
Wow Debbie ... nice to have you posting here!  As an IFBB Pro our leader Ron needs to give you your Blue stars!  ;D

I feel kinda bad for Putnum.  He has certainly looked better before and by all accounts he is a nice guy.  But the point is he wasn't the best in that division.  And so I think decisions like this set bodybuilding back ... which is something it can ill-afford right now.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: jude2 on November 29, 2008, 05:15:31 PM
Welcome Debbie.  You have a great look for a female BB.  Good luck to you in the future.


Title: Re: NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: debbiebramwell on November 30, 2008, 09:19:07 AM
Wow Debbie ... nice to have you posting here!  As an IFBB Pro our leader Ron needs to give you your Blue stars!  ;D

I feel kinda bad for Putnum.  He has certainly looked better before and by all accounts he is a nice guy.  But the point is he wasn't the best in that division.  And so I think decisions like this set bodybuilding back ... which is something it can ill-afford right now.

awww thank you! I actually was over at MDforums...which I like but I cant get on there the past 2 weeks...I get a blank page or server busy...so weird....I figured I would come take a peek around here!  I feel bad for him too...I just hate to see gifts given away and others getting robbed...been thru it myself  hehe...I support all my brothers and sisters! ;D


Title: Re: 2008 NPC Nationals Prejudging Review & Pics
Post by: yng466 on February 12, 2009, 03:43:50 PM
Yea,Debbie's pretty cool.