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Title: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 03, 2008, 02:51:18 PM
I am considering doing teaching...can anyone recommend it. I really dont have a clue what on earth i am going to do for a career. Application does not have to be in until November but i have applied for jobs in the meantime, maybe i will like them and stick at it...maybe not. Always thought about teaching as a career i could enjoy and be interested in.

I wish i knew what to do with my life lol


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 03, 2008, 02:57:37 PM
do you have a degree already or will you be doing the 4 year uni course ?


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 03, 2008, 03:00:33 PM
Have a Law degree form Queens University Belfast.

Hated that course so fucking much but stuck it out. Want nothing to do with it. So ill be doing a P.G.C.E. Was thinking of teaching maybe English, History or Religion. maybe a combination


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: 240 is Back on December 03, 2008, 03:04:01 PM
I taught for almost 7 years and burned out and returned to school.  Teaching requires you have a great deal of patience.  No matter how good you get at it, you're locked into the same pay scale as everyone else.

If you LOVE it, do it.  If you're looking for a place to 'find yourself', get a business degree.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 03, 2008, 03:04:23 PM
Have a Law degree form Queens University Belfast.

Hated that course so fucking much but stuck it out. Want nothing to do with it. So ill be doing a P.G.C.E. Was thinking of teaching maybe English, History or Religion. maybe a combination

definately do secondary teaching and stick to one subject. i just finished the pgde in primary teaching - hardest thing ever, it was like doing 4 degrees in 1 year.

i love working with the younger kids, but you have no free time. secondary is definately easier.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 03, 2008, 03:08:18 PM
I was thinking of secondary and just doing Religion or History.

I am not qualified and dont meet the entry requirements for primary school teaching anyway.

I understand what you mean about pay scale. I dont wanna get a job and stay the same pay scale forever i would love to progress in some way. I have a bit of ambition that way.

I am at a loss and have no idea what to do lol...I wish i was one of those people who from day 1 knew eactly what they wanted to do for a living.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 03, 2008, 03:10:19 PM
I was thinking of secondary and just doing Religion or History.

I am not qualified and dont meet the entry requirements for primary school teaching anyway.

I understand what you mean about pay scale. I dont wanna get a job and stay the same pay scale forever i would love to progress in some way. I have a bit of ambition that way.

I am at a loss and have no idea what to do lol...I wish i was one of those people who from day 1 knew eactly what they wanted to do for a living.

£42k and rising each year is hardly bad  ???

you can always get accredited too and it jumps up another 10k, or you can go into management and become a head £75k+  8)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 03, 2008, 03:13:21 PM
I was thinking of secondary and just doing Religion or History.

I am not qualified and dont meet the entry requirements for primary school teaching anyway.

I understand what you mean about pay scale. I dont wanna get a job and stay the same pay scale forever i would love to progress in some way. I have a bit of ambition that way.

I am at a loss and have no idea what to do lol...I wish i was one of those people who from day 1 knew eactly what they wanted to do for a living.

i think i would have liked to do religion, history, or p.e.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 03:19:08 PM
You may be qualified to teach Religion since it is all made up and fictitious as it is.  If you do decide to teach Religion, please make aware to your students that it is not based at all in reality or fact.

Make sure you inform them that faith is belief contrary to evidence or in the absence of evidence.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 03, 2008, 03:21:46 PM
Please DO NOT teach Science or English, History or Literature as I think you need to learn a bit more in these fields.




thats an interesting point adonis,

on that note you should also never teach brain surgery as you have none  ;)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 03, 2008, 03:22:39 PM
How do you know i am not interested in English or History?

Religion like any subject can be taught. All you have to do is follow the cirriculum.

It has answers...they dont need to understand or question the answers...simply put them down in the exam and they will get a pass.

Saying all that I am a Roman Catholic and believe in it. My beliefs. I dont impose them on anyone.

No way it is 42k for starting out? Are you serious?


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 03, 2008, 03:26:38 PM


No way it is 42k for starting out? Are you serious?

no, you start on 22k + depending on various factors, age, degree, work experience, etc.

it rises every year by 2-3k until you reach the top of the scale for a teacher - currently 42k. This rises each year due to inflation, etc

This is in scotland, i don't know what it is in n ireland.

http://www.teachinginscotland.com/


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 03:28:26 PM
How do you know i am not interested in English or History?

Religion like any subject can be taught. All you have to do is follow the cirriculum.

It has answers...they dont need to understand or question the answers...simply put them down in the exam and they will get a pass.

Saying all that I am a Roman Catholic and believe in it. My beliefs. I dont impose them on anyone.

No way it is 42k for starting out? Are you serious?
That is just awful if that is how you view it, simply the rote memorization of answers in disregard to context or meaning or true application.  I am VERY FRIGHTENED that you just said, "they dont need to understand or question the answers".  You have NO BUSINESS WHATSOEVER teaching.

Gore Vidal sums this type of learning the best:

What was happening to those kids?
First they’re trained to not reveal any curiosity about anything. Every important question has been answered for you. You better put the right check in the right square little box, which is no way to educate anybody. This is for — I don’t know — this is for savages on desert islands: Do you think there’s a turtle under that rock? Instead of saying let me go over and see if there’s a turtle, no — there’s bound to be a turtle, so check “turtle” and you’ll pass the course.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 03, 2008, 03:29:04 PM
sorry meant 32k is top.

42 + is for heads or if you get accredited ( a masters in teaching)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Tapeworm on December 03, 2008, 03:29:39 PM
Become a divorce lawyer.  Represent female clients only.  Shag the hot ones, or if you don't like them throw the case so they get no vag money.


If you're feeling entrepreneurial, maybe a security business?  You probably have some contacts in that industry, know what to charge, understand the risks (physical and legal), etc.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 03, 2008, 03:29:56 PM
That is just awful if that is how you view it, simply the rote memorization of answers in disregard to context or meaning or true application.  I am VERY FRIGHTENED that you just said, "they dont need to understand or question the answers".  You have NO BUSINESS WHATSOEVER teaching.

Gore Vidal sums this type of learning the best:

What was happening to those kids?
First they’re trained to not reveal any curiosity about anything. Every important question has been answered for you. You better put the right check in the right square little box, which is no way to educate anybody. This is for — I don’t know — this is for savages on desert islands: Do you think there’s a turtle under that rock? Instead of saying let me go over and see if there’s a turtle, no — there’s bound to be a turtle, so check “turtle” and you’ll pass the course.

 ::) fvck off


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: BayGBM on December 03, 2008, 03:30:21 PM
I am considering doing teaching...can anyone recommend it. I really dont have a clue what on earth i am going to do for a career. Application does not have to be in until November but i have applied for jobs in the meantime, maybe i will like them and stick at it...maybe not. Always thought about teaching as a career i could enjoy and be interested in.

I wish i knew what to do with my life lol

I can’t speak about primary and secondary school, but I can tell you that teaching at the university level is a wonderful career (assuming you are at a good college or university).

The pros include the intellectual life (people, library, labs, etc.), a flexible (teaching) schedule, and summer recess.

The cons include the tenure process, having to attend faculty meetings, and the low pay (compared to what one could make elsewhere).  As in most professions the people at the top do very well financially, but most faculty in the USA do not make very much money.  In fact, one could argue that as far as the pay is concerned, teaching is really a job for people who do not need to work.  I know quite a few faculty who do not live based on their salaries; they have inherited wealth or their spouses have substantial income.

If you want more info about university life, send me a private message.



Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 03:31:45 PM
Goudy has no business teaching if he thinks that a student does not need to understand or question what they are learning or being taught and that all he or she needs to do is mark the correct answer.

PLEASE dissuade him from teaching anything.  This could be highly detrimental to education.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 03, 2008, 03:32:33 PM


If you want more info about university life, send me a private message.



Careful Goudy...careful...


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Bluto on December 03, 2008, 03:33:24 PM
Bodybuilder.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 03:34:04 PM
This really angers me how Goudy views learning and teaching.  


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 03:40:23 PM
At least we see how Goudy has made his way through life and how he views education. Mindless memorization of rote answers without ever understanding the concept or going beyond to develop a curiosity of how and why.  As soon as the test is done, all is forgotten since there is no real connectivity or foundation (and dare I say personal value) in the brain to join the concepts let alone spotlight a meaning.


Please Goudy, do not go into teaching.



Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 03, 2008, 03:42:04 PM
Say i was teaching English Literature and one of teh books was Mary Shellys Frankenstein.

They dont need to go off on a wonderful quest to see if the creature existed etc...they need an understanding of the text and contemporary knowledge.

You can view religion in this way also if you like.

As long as you know the answer, and how you came to the answer and meet the criteria then yolu pass. If i teach them that then i have done my job and done it well


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 03, 2008, 03:43:45 PM
I can’t speak about primary and secondary school, but I can tell you that teaching at the university level is a wonderful career (assuming you are at a good college or university).

The pros include the intellectual life (people, library, labs, etc.), a flexible (teaching) schedule, and summer recess.

The cons include the tenure process, having to attend faculty meetings, and the low pay (compared to what one could make elsewhere).  As in most professions the people at the top do very well financially, but most faculty in the USA do not make very much money.  In fact, one could argue that as far as the pay is concerned, teaching is really a job for people who do not need to work.  I know quite a few faculty who do not live based on their salaries; they have inherited wealth or their spouses have substantial income.

If you want more info about university life, send me a private message.



Appreciate response mate.

Ah i get ya fatpanda...42k is nice. 22k is also decent espec for a 23 year old


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 03, 2008, 03:44:13 PM
become a gym teacher and watch the little teen girls shower you perve


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 03, 2008, 03:44:27 PM
At least we see how Goudy has made his way through life and how he views education. Mindless memorization of rote answers without ever understanding the concept or going beyond to develop a curiosity of how and why.  As soon as the test is done, all is forgotten since there is no real connectivity or foundation (and dare I say personal value) in the brain to join the concepts let alone spotlight a meaning.


Please Goudy, do not go into teaching.



whats your degree in  ::)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 03, 2008, 03:45:19 PM
In my driving test i will be asked where the oil in under the bonnet...I dont need to know what it does or how or why...just where it is. That is all i am tested on


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 03:46:41 PM
Say i was teaching English Literature and one of teh books was Mary Shellys Frankenstein.

They dont need to go off on a wonderful quest to see if the creature existed etc...they need an understanding of the text and contemporary knowledge.

You can view religion in this way also if you like.

As long as you know the answer, and how you came to the answer and meet the criteria then yolu pass. If i teach them that then i have done my job and done it well
Literature is open to broad interpretation.  Literature is an art form as any other.  Sure you can deconstruct literature or religion for that matter into neat tests with simple answers, but the importance, meaning and implication are totally lost which is not the point of education or the true point of literature and religion.  You are more suited for math if you just expect marked answers.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 03, 2008, 03:47:06 PM
Goudy. Teaching is one of those careers where one needs to feel a 'calling; to do so. If your only interest in doing so is a pay cheque, especially these days with ridiculous pedagogical constraints being imposed from on high, you won't last. Choose wisely.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 03, 2008, 03:49:10 PM
Literature is open to broad interpretation.  Literature is an art form as any other.  Sure you can deconstruct literature or religion for that matter into neat tests with simple answers, but the importance, meaning and implication are totally lost which is not the point of education or the true point of literature and religion.  You are more suited for math if you just expect marked answers.

Thats really interesting and all, seriously  ::)

Sadly thats not when the students are tested on. It isnt the Dead poets society here and i am not Thomas Gradgrind either.

Appreciate comment chimps...i will indeed


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 03:57:23 PM
whats your degree in  ::)
Which one?  ;)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 03, 2008, 03:58:43 PM
Which one?  ;)

hahahahahahaha i'm talking about real degrees, not fake internet degrees or off the back of cornflake packets.

name them all  ::)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 03:59:35 PM
Thats really interesting and all, seriously  ::)

Sadly thats not when the students are tested on. It isnt the Dead poets society here and i am not Thomas Gradgrind either.

Appreciate comment chimps...i will indeed
Are you going to let your students know up front that they don`t really have to know anything other than marking the correct answers on the test?


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 03, 2008, 04:01:41 PM
I am considering doing teaching...can anyone recommend it. I really dont have a clue what on earth i am going to do for a career. Application does not have to be in until November but i have applied for jobs in the meantime, maybe i will like them and stick at it...maybe not. Always thought about teaching as a career i could enjoy and be interested in.

I wish i knew what to do with my life lol
obtain certification and bring it with you.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 04:02:03 PM
hahahahahahaha i'm talking about real degrees, not fake internet degrees or off the back of cornflake packets.

name them all  ::)
Darn. I just got my All-Bran Kelloggs Crossword Puzzle Cryptology degree in the mail today with my 4 UPC points.  :-\

I don`t trust you people.  ;)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 03, 2008, 04:02:25 PM
Seriously TA what is your degree in


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 03, 2008, 04:04:56 PM
Darn. I just got my All-Bran Kelloggs Crossword Puzzle Cryptology degree in the mail today with my 4 UPC points.  :-\

I don`t trust you people.  ;)

 ::)

translation i have none, i'm a liar.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 04:06:10 PM
Seriously TA what is your degree in
People know my location and I am not going to let them email or harass anyone that may be connected with me in an attempt at in internet PWNING or whatever.  

With that said, Science,History and Literature if I ever finish, I will leave it at that.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 03, 2008, 04:07:17 PM
People know my location and I am not going to let them email or harass anyone that may be connected with me in an attempt at in internet PWNING or whatever.  

With that said, Science,History and Literature if I ever finish, I will leave it at that.

hahahahahahaha i'm sure you have  ::)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 03, 2008, 04:07:43 PM
Are you going to let your students know up front that they don`t really have to know anything other than marking the correct answers on the test?
I've got an education degree, TA, and I gotta say that demeanour and how you handle yourself in front to students plays no small part of having a productive class and being a good/competent teacher. Now, from the tenor of postings alone - yours and Goudy's - who would you rather have in front of a group of kids?  ;) 


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Bluto on December 03, 2008, 04:07:53 PM
Stop bitching and get a real mans job, drive a truck or something and that goes for all of you put em muscle to real life use


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 04:08:32 PM
I've got an education degree, TA, and I gotta say that demeanour and how you handle yourself in front to students plays no small part of having a productive class and being a good/competent teacher. Now, from the tenor of postings alone - yours and Goudy's - who would you rather have in front of a group of kids?  ;) 
Who would you rather have teaching Politics and History, Gore Vidal or Sarah Palin?


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 03, 2008, 04:09:07 PM
Are you going to let your students know up front that they don`t really have to know anything other than marking the correct answers on the test?

why teach them the wrong answers?

Why teach someone 100 ways to do something incorrectly rather than the one way correctly.

Do electricians teach others how not to wire a house...Nope.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 04:10:14 PM
hahahahahahaha i'm sure you have  ::)
Somebody on here a few years back dug up one of my Physics professors and emailed the shit out of her. I was highly embarrassed.  I don`t plan on repeating that again.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 03, 2008, 04:12:53 PM
Stop being a dork.

Post a fucking picture.

What did they email...you post on a bbuilding forum.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 03, 2008, 04:13:19 PM
Who would you rather have teaching Politics and History, Gore Vidal or Sarah Palin?
LOL. Well, I'm a big Gore fan, but knowing a bit about his 'I don't give a shit' attitude, I'd be afraid his students would come home one day and regale the parents with their teacher's predilection for rent-boys. That's not good and probably not pedagogically sound.  :D


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 04:13:28 PM
why teach them the wrong answers?

Why teach someone 100 ways to do something incorrectly rather than the one way correctly.

Do electricians teach others how not to wire a house...Nope.
Installing cable and teaching Transcendentalism are not the same thing.  You have to learn that there is no one right answer and that education is always a continual process of interpretation or re-interpretation in response to new and changing evidence coupled with a shifting social zeitgeist.


If you like constants and neat simple answers, teach math.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 03, 2008, 04:14:04 PM
Somebody on here a few years back dug up one of my Physics professors and emailed the shit out of her. I was highly embarrassed.  I don`t plan on repeating that again.

how convenient  ::)

yes i have 6 BSc's myself 3 MSc's, and 2 PHD's

I'd prove it too, but i wouldn't want a former professor to be contacted  ::)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 03, 2008, 04:14:40 PM
If it is former and you have no contact with them simply post an old degree that you have then


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 04:18:51 PM
how convenient  ::)

yes i have 6 BSc's myself 3 MSc's, and 2 PHD's

I'd prove it too, but i wouldn't want a former professor to be contacted  ::)
I wouldn`t have guessed that.  I figured you for average or so.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 03, 2008, 04:20:16 PM
Installing cable and teaching Transcendentalism are not the same thing.  You have to learn that there is no one right answer and that education is always a continual process of interpretation or re-interpretation in response to new and changing evidence coupled with a shifting social zeitgeist.

If you like constants and neat simple answers, teach math.
You make a case for relativism here, TA. However, if there were no rigid measures for objectivity, or guidelines, then the world would be nothing but polemics -ie. one persons opinion would be judged as valid as the next. Off course, that is not true and is complete nonsense. Some people know more than others: Profs over students; Art critics over museum goers; and (really important here!) Physicians and patients. See how that works.  :)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 04:21:17 PM
I am considering doing teaching...can anyone recommend it. I really dont have a clue what on earth i am going to do for a career. Application does not have to be in until November but i have applied for jobs in the meantime, maybe i will like them and stick at it...maybe not. Always thought about teaching as a career i could enjoy and be interested in.

I wish i knew what to do with my life lol

Do you love to feed your ego?

Do you love a particular topic that you feel is absolutely vital for people to know?

Do you have a way of making things seem simpler than they are?

Are you good at deductive reasoning and communicating it to others?


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 04:21:39 PM
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Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 03, 2008, 04:25:01 PM
(http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030617/nat2.jpg)

 ::) what does a picture from the tribune india paper have to do with your fake degrees ?


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 03, 2008, 04:26:18 PM
Do you love to feed your ego?

Do you love a particular topic that you feel is absolutely vital for people to know?

Do you have a way of making things seem simpler than they are?

Are you good at deductive reasoning and communicating it to others?

I like feeling good.

No topic to me is vital though i always enjoyed history.

Yes i think so, i watched one teacher in particular...he was awesome at doing that

I believe so.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The Master on December 03, 2008, 04:27:21 PM
I've got an education degree, TA, and I gotta say that demeanour and how you handle yourself in front to students plays no small part of having a productive class and being a good/competent teacher. Now, from the tenor of postings alone - yours and Goudy's - who would you rather have in front of a group of kids?  ;) 


(Debussey posting while running from the automated assraping alien anal probe droid)

Debussey has only one degree: In fucking Dr.Chimps ass in the sauna.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 03, 2008, 04:29:11 PM

(Debussey posting while running from the automated assraping alien anal probe droid)

Debussey has only one degree: In fucking Dr.Chimps ass in the sauna.
Uh, welcome back, bro. Things still the same, I see.  :-X          ;D


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 04:30:08 PM
You make a case for relativism here, TA. However, if there were no rigid measures for objectivity, or guidelines, then the world would be nothing but polemics -ie. one persons opinion would be judged as valid as the next. Off course, that is not true and is complete nonsense. Some people know more than others: Profs over students; Art critics over museum goers; and (really important here!) Physicians and patients. See how that works.  :)
Goudy is talking in terms of Literature and History not Obstetrics and Neurosurgery.  There are facts certainly to agree upon, but the point of History and Literature is totally lost if you reduce it to box and checked answers.

I don`t think there is a clear line of one group knowing more than another group.  If Dave Palumbo was teaching diet courses to Richard Dawkins, we wouldn`t automatically assume that Dave Palumbo is superior and "knows more" than Richard Dawkins about the human diet.

If Andy Warhol were alive and writing an article as Michelangelo walks in the museum to see what all the fuss was about, we wouldn`t assume that Warhol knows more about art.

I have seen a lot of steroid users here claim that their doctors were morons when it came to steroids and the application thereof.

I don`t think you can make those relative distinctions so easily.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The Master on December 03, 2008, 04:30:30 PM
Uh, welcome back, bro. Things still the same, I see.  :-X          ;D


Why did you not go into chemistry like your father? >:(


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: MAXX on December 03, 2008, 04:32:26 PM
Why is religion even a subject in schools... It has no relevance for your education anyways. If anything it should be a small part of history as a remembrance of human stupidity  ;D


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 03, 2008, 04:32:44 PM

Why did you not go into chemistry like your father? >:(
Ooooh, boy. Ouch. That opens up a whole kettle of family fish, of which I am not prepared to discuss on this forum.   8)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 03, 2008, 04:33:24 PM
Why is religion even a subject in schools... It has no relevance for your education anyways. If anything it should be a small part of history as a remembrance of human stupidity  ;D
folklore like other control devices


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 04:33:49 PM
I like feeling good.

No topic to me is vital though i always enjoyed history.

Yes i think so, i watched one teacher in particular...he was awesome at doing that

I believe so.

Sounds like a good choice for you. Be able to "internalize" (do you know what that means?) things and translate them into different words. One thing has many forms; words are just symbols for actual concepts.

Most of the time someone doesn't understand something it's not because they're too stupid, but because the wording wasn't consistent to the terms in which they understand, or normally think. So, be able to state a concept in many different ways. Many times you'll just say the same thing differently and BAM, you've got 'em! Revelation...

I must say, Goudy, you HAVE to think what you're teaching is vital. That is an absolute must and probably the most important thing. Maybe you're just interested in a lot of things, therefore could teach a lot of different things, thinking many things are vital? This is often the case when a brilliant mind can't pinpoint one thing...


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The Master on December 03, 2008, 04:34:30 PM
Ooooh, boy. Ouch. That opens up a whole kettle of family fish, of which I am not prepared to discuss on this forum.   8)

As long as you teach the students about Gary Busey and how he is god and all, you = fine in Debusseys book.

 8)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 03, 2008, 04:35:22 PM
Grasping at straws TA.

I remember my lower 6th coursework question.

It was along the lines of "Maurice Hindle has described Marry shelly's Frankenstein as a move away from the romantic era and a push towards enlightenment. To what extent would you agre with this statement"...along those lines anyway

There are correct answers within the text to show example for and against. Highlight these and present them in a structure and coherent manner then you pass.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: TBUNZEE on December 03, 2008, 05:42:59 PM
I am teaching in a grade 5/6 split and loving every minute of it....I can agree with some comments that teacher burnout is easy and you gotta go slow at first....The career in general is very rewarding and will allow you to learn somthing new eveyday and feel great because you know you are making a diffrence.  Everyday is different and poses new challenges so it will keep you on your toes if you can get around the classroom management and create respect amongst your students from early on....the rest falls into place from their.....go for it cause its a wonderful career.....


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 03, 2008, 05:47:51 PM
I am teaching in a grade 5/6 split and loving every minute of it....I can agree with some comments that teacher burnout is easy and you gotta go slow at first....The career in general is very rewarding and will allow you to learn somthing new eveyday and feel great because you know you are making a diffrence.  Everyday is different and poses new challenges so it will keep you on your toes if you can get around the classroom management and create respect amongst your students from early on....the rest falls into place from their.....go for it cause its a wonderful career.....

Yes, yes...spare the rod and spoil the child.  TBUNZEE put these little scamps in their place, straight away.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 07:07:15 PM
I am teaching in a grade 5/6 split and loving every minute of it....I can agree with some comments that teacher burnout is easy and you gotta go slow at first....The career in general is very rewarding and will allow you to learn somthing new eveyday and feel great because you know you are making a diffrence.  Everyday is different and poses new challenges so it will keep you on your toes if you can get around the classroom management and create respect amongst your students from early on....the rest falls into place from their.....go for it cause its a wonderful career.....
I sure hope you don`t end up on a TBUNZEE exposed thread given the information you just gave out.  Better not make anyone angry I suppose.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: michael arvilla on December 03, 2008, 07:37:18 PM
I taught 6-7th and 8th grade (special needs/behaviour problems) a group of around 15 - 20 kids
i had them all day (it was in a public school) and taught them all subjects
one of my former students sent me these pics recently
best job i ever had!


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: CARTEL on December 03, 2008, 07:41:56 PM
I taught 6-7th and 8th grade (special needs/behaviour problems)

Blind leading the blind  ;)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Megalodon on December 03, 2008, 08:08:59 PM
Whatever the teaching philosophies spoken of on the first couple of pages the bottom line is that a degree is still necessary for most teaching jobs. One can view themselves as a "gadfly" or contrarian but if they do not possess that piece of paper legitimizing their teaching credentials they are relegated to the sidelines as far as scholarly teaching. 


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: AVBG on December 03, 2008, 08:13:24 PM
Blind leading the blind  ;)
haha (jk- no offense Mike)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: leonp1981 on December 03, 2008, 08:44:31 PM
My dad's been a lecturer for years and he's been stuck on the top grade of the pay scale for the last five.  It's a difficult job, you'll always get trouble from some kids, they'll change the curriculum on you with no notice, and there's always some 'meeting' you have to go to at 9am when you've got no classes til 2pm!

Also, you need to be able to explain things to the kids in so many different ways.  It's no good telling the kid 'this is this because it is'.  They'll ask why it's that way, why do we do it like that, and you have to be able to explain it to them.  I think you mentioned putting oil in a car as an example, yes you can tell them where it goes, and how often to put it in, but kids will want to know why the car needs oil, where the oil comes from, what's the oil made from, etc.  Your job as a teacher is to be able to answer all of those questions.

Having said that, I can imagine the satisfaction from teaching them something, and them understanding it is fantastic.  I've got a 5 year old son who's constantly asking questions, and I patiently explain everything to him, and it gets annoying sometimes.  But when his teacher, or his grandparents come and tell me he's told them something I taught him, it makes it all worthwhile.

Shit, that's a long post...  Oh well.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: disco_stu on December 03, 2008, 09:22:34 PM
You may be qualified to teach Religion since it is all made up and fictitious as it is.  If you do decide to teach Religion, please make aware to your students that it is not based at all in reality or fact.

Make sure you inform them that faith is belief contrary to evidence or in the absence of evidence.

ditto..lol ;D

one day religion will make way for scientology...or perhaps there'll be a choice between 2 bullshit fiction histories and the real one?

wtf is wrong with this world so that we have millions of people walking around denying the truth?- thats the crux of all of our problems.

i cant think of a single event where religion has actually helped the world progress.

can anyone else?


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: crazye on December 03, 2008, 09:30:19 PM
Teaching is cool, if that's what you really want to do. I came back to teaching (5/6 in the States) after 7 years in the 'corporate' merry-go-round.  Money isn't as great, but teaching is a better fit.  It can be difficult at times...but really, what isn't at times?  I agree with some of the other comments, go slow, learn from your mistakes and (try) to remain positive.

Good Luck.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: The Master on December 04, 2008, 12:28:34 AM
I taught 6-7th and 8th grade (special needs/behaviour problems) a group of around 15 - 20 kids
i had them all day (it was in a public school) and taught them all subjects
one of my former students sent me these pics recently
best job i ever had!


Too bad you have that violence shit on your record. No way to return to that career now ;D


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Fatpanda on December 04, 2008, 05:36:50 AM
ditto..lol ;D

one day religion will make way for scientology...or perhaps there'll be a choice between 2 bullshit fiction histories and the real one?

wtf is wrong with this world so that we have millions of people walking around denying the truth?- thats the crux of all of our problems.

i cant think of a single event where religion has actually helped the world progress.

can anyone else?


scientology ? the fake rambings of a pervert ? that tells of an alien that set off a giant nuclear bomb to start life  ::) oh brother.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Ursus on December 04, 2008, 12:51:35 PM
A lot of uou may not believe in God, but God believes in you.

LOL

Plus lets see how many people on their deathbed call for a priest or a confession lol


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on December 04, 2008, 06:06:15 PM
I taught 6-7th and 8th grade (special needs/behaviour problems) a group of around 15 - 20 kids
i had them all day (it was in a public school) and taught them all subjects
one of my former students sent me these pics recently
best job i ever had!

Nice mullet!  8)


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: gettingbetter on January 20, 2009, 04:02:35 PM
I'm teaching in highschool right now and it's great!

Don't take yourself too seriously is the only advice I would give you. Those kids will fuck up your brain if you take shit too personal.

Otherwise, it's great! You make a full salary working "part time" (summer recess, usually home by 4...) so you have plenty of time to start a business, study, be a good father, train ....

I'm currently doing my MBA in management while I work so I quickly became assistant principal in my school, having a decent salary at an early age (75k at 26), plus all the revenue from my business ventures...


Teaching is great, period.


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: calfzilla on February 02, 2009, 03:35:38 AM
I've thought about becoming a teacher or school counselor primarily for all the time off. 


Title: Re: Any teachers out there?
Post by: Andy Griffin on February 06, 2009, 05:05:38 PM
From what I've seen in the news lately, teachers get plenty of fresh ass as well.   :)