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Title: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Ron on January 18, 2009, 09:26:32 PM
The weather is very nice here the week before the 2009 Ironman in Los Angeles.  For the last week, we have had 80 degree weather, and it is going to be that way also until Thursday, the weekend of the contest, where the forecasts call for rain.  Rain, in Los Angeles. Yes, it looks like that we may have a raincloud or two trying to wet itself on the convention center, where the 2009 Ironman and Fit Expo will be held.

This is the 20th year at the Ironman Pro Men’s bodybuilding contest, and it looks like the lineup is going to be a good one. Never mind the naysayers, who complain that some big names are not in this show. This lineup is just as good as in past years, and I, for one, am excited to see which names and surprises are going to be thrown at us this year.  You never know, but that does not stop me from making predictions. After all, I am taken away the title from Lonnie Teper from the past two years on making this predictions on the pro show (he will disagree with me, of course), and after a nice relaxing few weeks of holidays spirit, I am ready for the year. The top 5 here at this show are qualified to compete in the 2009 Olympia.

So who do we have competing this year. Here is the list that has been brought to our attention. It looks like 14 countries are being represented here. They are, in alphabetical order.

Eddie Abbew (England)
Troy Alves (USA)
Oliver Adzievski (Sweden)
Mohammad Bannout (Lebanon)
Thomas Bengali (Italy)
AD Cherry (USA)
Omar Deckard (USA)
Constantinos Demetriou (Australia)
Mark Dugdale (USA)
Tamer El-Guindy (Egypt)
Moe El Moussawi (New Zealand)
Oleg Emelyanov (Russia)
Aiman Faour (Lebanon)
DeShaun Grimez (USA)
Ahmad Haidar (Lebanon)
Marcus Haley (USA)
Johnnie Jackson (USA)
Martin Kjellstrom (Sweden)
Marc LaVoie (Canada)
Don Long (USA)
Daron Lytle (USA)
Caesar Mendible (Venezuela)
Evgeny Mishin (Russia)
Ronny Rockel (Germany)
Silvio Samuel (Spain)
Daniele Seccarecci (Italy), and
Hidetada Yamagishi (Japan)

So here goes, my top ten predictions.

1)   Moe El Moussawi.   Now Silvio is the man, the favorite in this contest, and some say that he will come in and win this show easily. I am not so sure.  Last year, Moe stunned the Ironman crowd by defeating Silvio here, causing Silvio to shake his head.  Silvio did come back and beat him at the Olympia, but this is a new year, and the question is, which one of these competitors can withstand the holiday season, and come back three weeks into January looking better than the other.  I have seen some pictures of Moe. He is ten pounds heavier than last year, and looks shredded. He is determined. He just may pull it off, and defeat Silvio here again, like last year. Only this time, there is no Phil Heath to block is path to the prize. Moe is flying in from New Zealand a week before the contest and will be ready.

2)   Silvio Samuel.   Silvio is amazing. No question about it. This guy enters contest after contest and never looks like he is out of shape. I think when I talk to people, Silvio is the one that they say will beat everyone who has entered this contest. Even in the offseason, Silvio looks great, so why is he in second. I don’t know. I just have this feeling that Moe might take it, and look for shredded.  Silvio, pound for pound, is bigger, stronger and more muscular, but in terms of being shredded, well… it is going to be a battle.

3)   Hidetada Yamagishi – Hide is hungry, coupled off the firestorm last year that derailed his career, and had him lose his contract and much more, in terms of respect from the Japanese people.  He was a Japanese hero, and his arrest was too much for some. Never the less, this is a new year, and he is determined to show everyone that he is in shape, that he can compete in the rank, and will qualify for the 2009 Olympia on the first contest of the year. After all, he is not currently competing at the 2009 Arnold, so this is his big change to show what he has.

4)   Johnnie Jackson –  Agreeing to compete on the last day of the deadline, Johnnie never looks bad, and is the strongest bodybuilder on stage. He knows he is in shape, his muscular and will not bore us as he should earn a trip to the 2009 Olympia.

5)   Troy Alves – Back look great, chest looks great, legs look good, but the hamstring and glutes. This is where placings are made, and will Troy be ready in terms of bringing the overall package this year. I think he will.  I spoke to Troy earlier this week, and he seem like he was spot on, and is excited to be competing again at the 2009 Ironman.

6)   Ronnie Rockel – Ronnie always comes in shape, and I know think this year won't be different.  Muscular, conditioned and just a good overall physique will catapult him in the top 10, but will he be able to get into the top 5 . I am not so sure, judging by the deep lineup we have now.

7)   Mark Dugdale – For some reason, I feel that Mark, to me, as some of the deepest respect in bodybuilding. A full time job, married with three little girls, great family values, how do you get in shape for a contest. Still, it has to be tough, and Mark usually is in that spot between being a smaller bodybuilder or trying to pack on size and lose some symmetry by being a heavier bodybuilder. I hope Mark does well here, he is one of the nicest competitors out there.

8-   Eddie Abbew – We always forget about Eddie, but somehow, Eddie likes the early shows, and usually comes out in the best shape of the year at them. He placed 3rd at the Ironman a few years back, so I don’t doubt Eddie will be in the top 10.

9)   AD Cherry – He looked great when he won his pro card two years ago, but has not been able to look as good as he did. Still, I think this show AD will crack the top ten, and keep getting better and better.

10)   Marcus Haley – Marcus is going to surprise us, and get into the top 10 in the 27 man lineup. He is a small competitor, but the way I feel, his physique is going to make the judges happy, and they will reward him.


There are others who can make the top 10, including Ahmad Haidar, Omar Deckard, and DeShaun Grimez, and of course, anyone else who worked hard during the holidays, and will surprise us here. It always happens. See you at the 2009 Ironman!


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: cherrybody on January 18, 2009, 09:42:25 PM
Got my pro card 1 year and 2 months ago.Last show was Atlantic City . I will have the best abs ,smallest waist and a nice set of calves you might even call them COWS!


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Ron on January 18, 2009, 09:48:42 PM
AD - I want you higher, and prove me wrong! Toney Freeman kicked my ass at the Olympia, but then again, I am the only one who picked Moe to be in the top ten there too.  See you on Friday.


Lets see, other peoples picks...

Lift Studios... before Troy and JOJ entered

1. Moe El Moussawi:
2. Silvio Samuel:
3. Mark Dugdale:
4. Ahmad Haidar:
5. Marcus Haley:
6. Adorthus Cherry:
7. Hidetada Yamagishi:
8. Ronny Rockel:
9. Evgeny Mishin:
10. Eddie Abbew:

Brian Bullmans predictions... before Troy and JOJ entered

1. Silvio Samuel:
2. Mark Dugdale:
3. Ronnie Rockel:
4-5. Hidetada Yamagishi/AD Cherry:

Myron Miekle predictions... before Troy and JOJ entered

1st Place - Silvio Samuel
2nd Place - Ronny Rockel
3rd Place - Mark Dugdale
4th Place - Moe El Moussawi
5th Place - Marcus Haley
6th Place - Hidetada Yamagishi
7th Place - Ahmad Haidar
8th Place - Eddie Abbew
9th Place - Martin Kjellstrom
10th Place - A.D. Cherry


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: scribbler on January 18, 2009, 09:49:14 PM
Rain at the Ironman...shocking

wasn't last year the first year there WASN'T rain on that weekend?

C


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: GigantorX on January 18, 2009, 09:50:26 PM
Another solid post is deleted. I was just trying to nudge him in the right direction as proper communication skills is key to future success.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Stavios on January 18, 2009, 09:51:55 PM
Marcus Haley is a "small" competitor ?

since when ?


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Ron on January 18, 2009, 09:52:42 PM
It rained three years in a row when it was in Pasadena (we even thought of making Ironman umbrellas), but the last two years (one at Pasadena, one at the LA Conv Center), it didnt rain.  So imagine my surprise when I looked at the forecast, and saw tonight that it is destined to rain Thursday, Saturday and a little Sunday.  

For those of you who are not from Los Angeles, it only rains usually less than 10 days a year.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Ron on January 18, 2009, 09:54:48 PM
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Marcus Haley is a "small" competitor ?

Ok, 220 pounds is not small, medium then.



Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: cherrybody on January 18, 2009, 10:42:08 PM
AD - I want you higher, and prove me wrong! Toney Freeman kicked my ass at the Olympia, but then again, I am the only one who picked Moe to be in the top ten there too.  See you on Friday.


Lets see, other peoples picks...

Lift Studios... before Troy and JOJ entered

1. Moe El Moussawi:
2. Silvio Samuel:
3. Mark Dugdale:
4. Ahmad Haidar:
5. Marcus Haley:
6. Adorthus Cherry:
7. Hidetada Yamagishi:
8. Ronny Rockel:
9. Evgeny Mishin:
10. Eddie Abbew:

Brian Bullmans predictions... before Troy and JOJ entered

1. Silvio Samuel:
2. Mark Dugdale:
3. Ronnie Rockel:
4-5. Hidetada Yamagishi/AD Cherry:

Myron Miekle predictions... before Troy and JOJ entered

1st Place - Silvio Samuel
2nd Place - Ronny Rockel
3rd Place - Mark Dugdale
4th Place - Moe El Moussawi
5th Place - Marcus Haley
6th Place - Hidetada Yamagishi
7th Place - Ahmad Haidar
8th Place - Eddie Abbew
9th Place - Martin Kjellstrom
10th Place - A.D. Cherry


Im in no way complaining about being considered in the top 10. As a matter of fact I was surprised and inspired.
It's just my last comp was Atlantic City and everyone remembers the Arnold. every photo used to depict my physique is from the Arnold my worst look on stage in prob 5 years if not more...

hopefully i can beat abbew, kelstrom,and omar like at the atlantic city and i don't get beat by everyone who spanked me at the Arnold and Hide who got me at the Atlantic city.

I'm much better at this moment as I'm typing this than I was when i got my pro card and at the Atlantic city.
YES see ya Friday


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Karl Kox on January 18, 2009, 10:51:18 PM
I don't think Moe will beat Silvio.  I think he might give him a good fight though.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Alex23 on January 18, 2009, 11:20:53 PM
I will make it this year, pretty excited about it; not "schmoe excited", just fan excited.


Flexingtonsteele are you making it down?


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 18, 2009, 11:29:04 PM
The weather is very nice here the week before the 2009 Ironman in Los Angeles.  For the last week, we have had 80 degree weather, and it is going to be that way also until Thursday, the weekend of the contest, where the forecasts call for rain.  Rain, in Los Angeles. Yes, it looks like that we may have a raincloud or two trying to wet itself on the convention center, where the 2009 Ironman and Fit Expo will be held.

This is the 20th year at the Ironman Pro Men’s bodybuilding contest, and it looks like the lineup is going to be a good one. Never mind the naysayers, who complain that some big names are not in this show. This lineup is just as good as in past years, and I, for one, am excited to see which names and surprises are going to be thrown at us this year.  You never know, but that does not stop me from making predictions. After all, I am taken away the title from Lonnie Teper from the past two years on making this predictions on the pro show (he will disagree with me, of course), and after a nice relaxing few weeks of holidays spirit, I am ready for the year. The top 5 here at this show are qualified to compete in the 2009 Olympia.

So who do we have competing this year. Here is the list that has been brought to our attention. It looks like 14 countries are being represented here. They are, in alphabetical order.

Eddie Abbew (England)
Troy Alves (USA)
Oliver Adzievski (Sweden)
Mohammad Bannout (Lebanon)
Thomas Bengali (Italy)
AD Cherry (USA)
Omar Deckard (USA)
Constantinos Demetriou (Australia)
Mark Dugdale (USA)
Tamer El-Guindy (Egypt)
Moe El Moussawi (New Zealand)
Oleg Emelyanov (Russia)
Aiman Faour (Lebanon)
DeShaun Grimez (USA)
Ahmad Haidar (Lebanon)
Marcus Haley (USA)
Johnnie Jackson (USA)
Martin Kjellstrom (Sweden)
Marc LaVoie (Canada)
Don Long (USA)
Daron Lytle (USA)
Caesar Mendible (Venezuela)
Evgeny Mishin (Russia)
Ronny Rockel (Germany)
Silvio Samuel (Spain)
Daniele Seccarecci (Italy), and
Hidetada Yamagishi (Japan)

So here goes, my top ten predictions.

1)   Moe El Moussawi.   Now Silvio is the man, the favorite in this contest, and some say that he will come in and win this show easily. I am not so sure.  Last year, Moe stunned the Ironman crowd by defeating Silvio here, causing Silvio to shake his head.  Silvio did come back and beat him at the Olympia, but this is a new year, and the question is, which one of these competitors can withstand the holiday season, and come back three weeks into January looking better than the other.  I have seen some pictures of Moe. He is ten pounds heavier than last year, and looks shredded. He is determined. He just may pull it off, and defeat Silvio here again, like last year. Only this time, there is no Phil Heath to block is path to the prize. Moe is flying in from New Zealand a week before the contest and will be ready.

2)   Silvio Samuel.   Silvio is amazing. No question about it. This guy enters contest after contest and never looks like he is out of shape. I think when I talk to people, Silvio is the one that they say will beat everyone who has entered this contest. Even in the offseason, Silvio looks great, so why is he in second. I don’t know. I just have this feeling that Moe might take it, and look for shredded.  Silvio, pound for pound, is bigger, stronger and more muscular, but in terms of being shredded, well… it is going to be a battle.

3)   Hidetada Yamagishi – Hide is hungry, coupled off the firestorm last year that derailed his career, and had him lose his contract and much more, in terms of respect from the Japanese people.  He was a Japanese hero, and his arrest was too much for some. Never the less, this is a new year, and he is determined to show everyone that he is in shape, that he can compete in the rank, and will qualify for the 2009 Olympia on the first contest of the year. After all, he is not currently competing at the 2009 Arnold, so this is his big change to show what he has.

4)   Johnnie Jackson –  Agreeing to compete on the last day of the deadline, Johnnie never looks bad, and is the strongest bodybuilder on stage. He knows he is in shape, his muscular and will not bore us as he should earn a trip to the 2009 Olympia.

5)   Troy Alves – Back look great, chest looks great, legs look good, but the hamstring and glutes. This is where placings are made, and will Troy be ready in terms of bringing the overall package this year. I think he will.  I spoke to Troy earlier this week, and he seem like he was spot on, and is excited to be competing again at the 2009 Ironman.

6)   Ronnie Rockel – Ronnie always comes in shape, and I know think this year won't be different.  Muscular, conditioned and just a good overall physique will catapult him in the top 10, but will he be able to get into the top 5 . I am not so sure, judging by the deep lineup we have now.

7)   Mark Dugdale – For some reason, I feel that Mark, to me, as some of the deepest respect in bodybuilding. A full time job, married with three little girls, great family values, how do you get in shape for a contest. Still, it has to be tough, and Mark usually is in that spot between being a smaller bodybuilder or trying to pack on size and lose some symmetry by being a heavier bodybuilder. I hope Mark does well here, he is one of the nicest competitors out there.

8-   Eddie Abbew – We always forget about Eddie, but somehow, Eddie likes the early shows, and usually comes out in the best shape of the year at them. He placed 3rd at the Ironman a few years back, so I don’t doubt Eddie will be in the top 10.

9)   AD Cherry – He looked great when he won his pro card two years ago, but has not been able to look as good as he did. Still, I think this show AD will crack the top ten, and keep getting better and better.

10)   Marcus Haley – Marcus is going to surprise us, and get into the top 10 in the 27 man lineup. He is a small competitor, but the way I feel, his physique is going to make the judges happy, and they will reward him.


There are others who can make the top 10, including Ahmad Haidar, Omar Deckard, and DeShaun Grimez, and of course, anyone else who worked hard during the holidays, and will surprise us here. It always happens. See you at the 2009 Ironman!


  The Ironman is more interesting as a qualifier for bigger shows. The caliber of competitors is usually much lower than at the big shows, like the Arnold and Olympia. The only physique to win the Ironman that truly impressed me was Wheeler's back in 93'. Flex looked his absolute best there, even better than he did at the Arnold.

SUCKMYMUSLE


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Alex23 on January 18, 2009, 11:33:22 PM
  The Ironman is more interesting as a qualifier for bigger shows. The caliber of competitors is usually much lower than at the big shows, like the Arnold and Olympia. The only physique to win the Ironman that truly impressed me was Wheeler's back in 93'. Flex looked his absolute best there, even better than he did at the Arnold.

SUCKMYMUSLE

How's the gym altercation business going bro?


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: divcom on January 19, 2009, 07:01:51 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/news/2008/01/20080118moe2.jpg)

is this the moe guy who was suppose to be a better pro than phil?  didnt he have a pec or some kind of tear?  he doesnt look 5'9" to me.  are there any pics of him and phil side-side?


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2009, 07:19:25 AM
Got my pro card 1 year and 2 months ago.Last show was Atlantic City . I will have the best abs ,smallest waist and a nice set of calves you might even call them COWS!

BOOM  ;D


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: GigantorX on January 19, 2009, 07:30:57 AM
I will make it this year, pretty excited about it; not "schmoe excited", just fan excited.


Flexingtonsteele are you making it down?

Good job at making the distinction....


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: YoungBlood on January 19, 2009, 07:31:44 AM
I think Ron had someone proofread and/or write that for him. I only noticed one real typo- usually Ron's posts are full of incorrect spellings, typos and mistakes of any kind.

Excellent job Ron!!! I guess those classes are paying off! :p

AD- I'm sure you've answered this elsewhere, but how come you were so far off at the Arnold? Some speculate you were out of shape and still needed to fulfill a contract obligation...or of course others thought maybe you did something different with your your supplementation and didn't know how your body would respond. Maybe you were just tired?


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2009, 07:37:01 AM
MOE is following same path as gustavo,few yrs back good build but was a non contender then like badell bam gets right stuff together and has pro size and finish and now is a top contender in the smaller shows and could break in mr o placings top 6 possibly.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Ron on January 19, 2009, 08:07:44 AM
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The Ironman is more interesting as a qualifier for bigger shows. The caliber of competitors is usually much lower than at the big shows, like the Arnold and Olympia.


Well - the Arnold is an invite top 15 class with $100K in prize money and a huge show. The Olympia are competitors who have earned their way to that show, and is the #1 event out there.

The Ironman is a top class show after taking out these two contests.  It is probably the best smaller show out there, since it is in Los Angeles and the first show of the year. And of course, it is my hometown.

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I think Ron had someone proofread and/or write that for him. I only noticed one real typo- usually Ron's posts are full of incorrect spellings, typos and mistakes of any kind. Excellent job Ron!!! I guess those classes are paying off!


Ha - I got just as much emails regarding how bad it is vs how good it is. No one helps me, I couldn't even find the crystal ball that I had (I think my kids broke it), nor the magic eight ball (which sometimes works), nor the Ouija board (which scares me now after an incident). Funny how people complain, but the ones that complain never put out their own predictions. Reminds me of the person who complains on how out of shape some of these bodybuilders are while sitting in front of the computer screen drinking a beer with their shirt hanging out.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Mr Gethin on January 19, 2009, 08:24:37 AM
10)   Marcus Haley – Marcus is going to surprise us, and get into the top 10 in the 27 man lineup. He is a small competitor, but the way I feel, his physique is going to make the judges happy, and they will reward him.

You call 10th place a reward for Marcus Haley? Come on Ron, he will be in the 230's and will make a bigger splash than that. Did you see the pics he sent me two weeks out? -

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2009_marcus_haley_iron_man_interview.htm

See you in a few


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: QuakerOats on January 19, 2009, 08:25:31 AM
Got my pro card 1 year and 2 months ago.Last show was Atlantic City . I will have the best abs ,smallest waist and a nice set of calves you might even call them COWS!
ahh don't you love the humility of bodybuilders. ::)


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: jaejonna on January 19, 2009, 08:26:27 AM
1. Moe
2. Dugdale
3. Rockel
4. Silvio
5. Hide


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: cherrybody on January 19, 2009, 08:46:33 AM
ahh don't you love the humility of bodybuilders. ::)

I particularly care more about the facts, perhaps you mistake my 15th place at the Atlantic City as bragging!
All my statements were facts correcting what was wrongly written.

I'm a humble person but this is my life so If your going to talk about my life let's talk about the facts. It's funny people think they can predict the outcome of an event based on looks and you haven't even seen what 90% of the guy's look like.

We're all pro's isn't this like football except on any given Sunday its on any given Saturday ;)


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: QuakerOats on January 19, 2009, 08:49:34 AM
I particularly care more about the facts,perhaps you mistake my 15th place at the Atlantic City as bragging!
All my statements were facts correcting what was wrongly written.
I'm a humble person but this is my life so If your going to talk about my life let's talk about the facts.
It's funny people think they can predict the outcome of an event based on looks and you haven't even seen what 90% of the guy's look like.
We're all pro's isn't this like football ecept on any given Sunday its on any given Saturday ;)
funny how you weren't so confident and proud of when you came into the Arnold Classic looking tiny and soft with what loked like 14 inch arms and zero leg mass. ::)


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Ron on January 19, 2009, 09:12:06 AM
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It's funny people think they can predict the outcome of an event based on looks and you haven't even seen what 90% of the guy's look like.

You can't, but it is fun!   If I were that good, I would of predicted Arizona to be in the Superbowl. The odds were 40-1 about a month ago. You never know, which makes it all that more interesting.  See you at the Ironman! I need some good pics!



Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Mydavid on January 19, 2009, 09:17:55 AM
funny how you weren't so confident and proud of when you came into the Arnold Classic looking tiny and soft with what loked like 14 inch arms and zero leg mass. ::)

Who is this guy anyhow? And no, it's not meant to be a rude question i'm just not keeping up as much nowadays


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: cherrybody on January 19, 2009, 09:19:49 AM
I think Ron had someone proofread and/or write that for him. I only noticed one real typo- usually Ron's posts are full of incorrect spellings, typos and mistakes of any kind.

Excellent job Ron!!! I guess those classes are paying off! :p

AD- I'm sure you've answered this elsewhere, but how come you were so far off at the Arnold? Some speculate you were out of shape and still needed to fulfill a contract obligation...or of course others thought maybe you did something different with your your supplementation and didn't know how your body would respond. Maybe you were just tired?
Let's get this clear I'm a self sponsored athlete. I've never been sponsored so no I had no obligation. In saying that I had no obligation to anything in the sport. I did the USA July north American sept then got my pro card Nov.
I was all relaxed and thinking long term plans when i was surprised 2 days before Xmas with an Arnold invite. And against everybody's advise I did the show. I was already off my diet and not training for a month at that point. But the Arnold Classic it was like a cartoon when the smell of food comes lingering into a room and you take a whiff and you start floating in the air towards that wonderful smell.
I honestly looked at a video we shot at the room the day of the Arnold and it took us a few minutes to figure out what we were looking at. I broke out in laughter when i realized it was from the Arnold and the video in my hands from 5 weeks out I was 100x better.
The sad thing is i didn't see how bad I looked until then . I never looked after the show.
My girl told me don't ever put her through that again!
My son said next time Dad!
My old training partner told me don't ever do that again , that's not you.
I've taken my licks for that and in the long run I'll be better for it.
Yeah i tried less supps but that's a personal choice,not an excuse. I'm doing the same thing now and I'm looking good and feeling great.
I've made a total of 2,000$ as a pro. Thats from the Arnold so should I have made 0$ not competed at the Arnold and waited around for a miracle?
No way get your ass kicked pick yourself back up Fuck dusting off your shoulder and start busting your ass back to the top!!!!
I learned my lesson when MD didn't pay me for my photo shoot in Texas . After speaking  twice with my fiance , convincing her I wouldn't be late to the Cowboy / Redskin game which I planned on  going to , since a victory is never  a guarantee in bodybuilding I wanted to do something fun outside of the weekend of bodybuilding.Needless to say ,the photo shoot went late and I got goose eggs. So i can only do what my heart desires not what everyone else who's known me for the past couple years thinks I should do. ( actually thinks they know me would be a little more correct).
I'd say it was the equivalent of Jordan having a bad game
I'm no Jordan though don't take that the wrong way, I meant bad day's just happen sometimes even to the best!
Man i looked horrible at that Arnold I guess that's why 2 hrs a day cardio isn't fazing my energy level I'm on a mission.
hope that explains a little better.I'm off to the gym.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: cherrybody on January 19, 2009, 09:24:36 AM
funny how you weren't so confident and proud of when you came into the Arnold Classic looking tiny and soft with what loked like 14 inch arms and zero leg mass. ::)

I was 14 lbs heavier than when i turned pro and looked smooth my arms were 20 but yeah with no cuts they might as well have been. maybe I need to eat more quaker oats?

I was confident then as i am now that You will never be invited to the Arnold Classic and I was :o


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Mydavid on January 19, 2009, 09:31:53 AM
Who is this guy anyhow? And no, it's not meant to be a rude question i'm just not keeping up as much nowadays

Nevermind i figured it out


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: michael arvilla on January 19, 2009, 09:32:51 AM
2 weeks out   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLpAl45QO0w


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: YoungBlood on January 19, 2009, 11:02:03 AM
but the ones that complain never put out their own predictions. Reminds me of the person who complains on how out of shape some of these bodybuilders are while sitting in front of the computer screen drinking a beer with their shirt hanging out.

I don't make predictions, because I don't have the time-nor do I care to spend that much time around the sport anymore- to critique all the competitors. This and maybe one other site are all I see photos on, and I usually reserve my predictions after I see them, because in this day and age anything can happen. One case (not pro), is Alex A. Guy was phenomenal leading up to the show, such low bodyfat %, and even with the lack of size he had, he could have won. Come time to place himself onstage he completely tanked. Bad coloring, lost his condition he'd been showing, and then things snowballed from there.
Ron, I've been after you for years about your typos...I'm not just being a prick and trying to point them out. They are so obvious, it makes your writing hard to read, quite often you'll make a mistake, and I have to spend time trying to figure out which direction you really were trying to take the reader (myself and whoever else). That, is all I'm trying to say. It's one thing to use the word "know" when you wanted to say "now." Or "reed" instead of "read."
Anyway....I guess I'll log off and try to be in shape sometime, Ron. ::) Apples and oranges fearless one. ::)


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Stavios on January 19, 2009, 11:42:40 AM
Ok, 220 pounds is not small, medium then.



220 ?

try 245 at one week out  8)



Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: QuakerOats on January 19, 2009, 12:10:59 PM
I was 14 lbs heavier than when i turned pro and looked smooth my arms were 20 but yeah with no cuts they might as well have been. maybe I need to eat more quaker oats?

I was confident then as i am now that You will never be invited to the Arnold Classic and I was :o
good stuff man, so how are you gonna spend your 350 dollar, 8th place check? :D


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: bentone on January 19, 2009, 12:27:46 PM
Ron:

I do not know how you could leave DeShaun Grimez out of the top ten. This pick is from 1.5 weeks out. Looks pretty freaky to me.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: QuakerOats on January 19, 2009, 12:28:42 PM
Ron:

I do not know how you could leave DeShaun Grimez out of the top ten. This pick is from 1.5 weeks out. Looks pretty freaky to me.
holy shit, looks great, what's going on with the right delt though?


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Stavios on January 19, 2009, 12:29:24 PM
Ron:

I do not know how you could leave DeShaun Grimez out of the top ten. This pick is from 1.5 weeks out. Looks pretty freaky to me.

other shots ?


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Parker on January 19, 2009, 12:40:30 PM
Odd no Evan Centapoli (sp) what is he gonna wait 5 yrs before he's ready to compete, it's already been a little over 2 yrs.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: QuakerOats on January 19, 2009, 12:41:40 PM
supposedly Libertore is going to take 2009 off to "add size" for 2010, these guys should just compete and get the experience. ::)


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Stavios on January 19, 2009, 12:41:56 PM
Odd no Evan Centapoli (sp) what is he gonna wait 5 yrs before he's ready to compete, it's already been a little over 2 yrs.

he will do the new york pro


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2009, 12:52:33 PM
HALEY has stepped it up,bigtime size looks like a pro now and hard conditioning.deshawn dosen't have haleys density yet.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Ron on January 19, 2009, 01:14:12 PM
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I do not know how you could leave DeShaun Grimez out of the top ten

He does look good, but the top 10 out of 27 competitors if harder than it looks.

Will DeShaun beat AD? Or others... anything can happen. That is the beauty of predictions, I get to be proved wrong, and see some surprises in the beginning of the season.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Stavios on January 19, 2009, 01:16:51 PM
He does look good, but the top 10 out of 27 competitors if harder than it looks.

Will DeShaun beat AD? Or others... anything can happen. That is the beauty of predictions, I get to be proved wrong, and see some surprises in the beginning of the season.


How about a bet, Ron ?!

if Haley places top 3, you have to proclame me the leader of Getbig for a week

if he placed lower than that, you can put me in timeout for a week  ;D


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: jaejonna on January 19, 2009, 01:25:39 PM
Grimes has Abs that resemble Bob Chicks/Cutler type ... not so pretty, no ?


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Ron on January 19, 2009, 01:28:05 PM
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Howw about a bet, Ron ?! if Haley places top 3, you have to proclame me the leader of Getbig for a week

Put your top 5 or top 10 here, I am impressed that you have that much confidence in Haley. That is good to know, looking forward to see him higher! Isn't Hany helping him out?





Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Stavios on January 19, 2009, 01:40:54 PM
Put your top 5 or top 10 here, I am impressed that you have that much confidence in Haley. That is good to know, looking forward to see him higher! Isn't Hany helping him out?





 A guy named Tim Garner (I think I am right with this) is his nutritionnist.

Here is my top 5 !

1.Moe
2.Silvio
3.Marcus
4.Hidetada
5.Ahmad Haidar

 8)


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Parker on January 19, 2009, 01:48:55 PM
he will do the new york pro

Good, but that remains to be seen.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: kyomu on January 19, 2009, 01:53:34 PM
A guy named Tim Garner(I think I am right with this) is his nutritionnist.

Here is my top 5 !

1.Moe
2.Silvio
3.Marcus
4.Hidetada
5.Ahmad Haidar

 8)
Agreed. Haley looks good.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Ron on January 19, 2009, 02:07:50 PM
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A guy named Tim Garner (I think I am right with this) is his nutritionnist

Yes, I think so. Hany doesnt have anyone in the Ironman that he is working with this year.  He is busy with Phil Heath and Jay Cutler, both of which should be done at the Fit Expo along with Hany.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Balloon on January 19, 2009, 02:22:11 PM
1: Haider
2: haley
3: Grimez


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 19, 2009, 02:26:52 PM
Grimez Should be in the TOP 5....
AD has not place ahead of Grimez (lost in the USA and Arnold)


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 19, 2009, 02:28:02 PM
1.5 Weeks out


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: kyomu on January 19, 2009, 02:32:06 PM
1.5 Weeks out
Bad pic to judge. :-\


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 19, 2009, 02:33:40 PM
Bad pic to judge. :-\

You are right....but you know you look great ...when you look great in bad light...!!! You can clearly see the amount of mass and detail He will bring to the show.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: kyomu on January 19, 2009, 02:39:55 PM
Grimez Should be in the TOP 5....
AD has not place ahead of Grimez (lost in the USA and Arnold)
Top 5 i dont know. But better than AD for sure.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 19, 2009, 02:45:32 PM
Top 5 i dont know. But better than AD for sure.

At least We agree  8)


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: beazzcaine on January 19, 2009, 02:51:39 PM
Grimez Should be in the TOP 5....
AD has not place ahead of Grimez (lost in the USA and Arnold)

thats not completely true.  In 06 Grimez placed 15th at the USA's and AD placed 3rd.  The same year AD placed 2nd @ Natl's and Grimez 5th.  Only in 07 did Grimez place higher.  However they BOTH got their pro cards in 07-AD at Natl's and DeShaun at the USA's.

I hear he's working with Dr. Clay...nice..he's very knowledgeable.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 19, 2009, 02:58:33 PM

thats not completely true.  In 06 Grimez placed 15th at the USA's and AD placed 3rd.  The same year AD placed 2nd @ Natl's and Grimez 5th.  Only in 07 did Grimez place higher.  However they BOTH got their pro cards in 07-AD at Natl's and DeShaun at the USA's.

I hear he's working with Dr. Clay...nice..he's very knowledgeable.

You are correct. I meant the least 2 show both have been in.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: QuakerOats on January 19, 2009, 03:57:11 PM
Grimez Should be in the TOP 5....
AD has not place ahead of Grimez (lost in the USA and Arnold)
gigantic arms.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 19, 2009, 04:13:05 PM
gigantic arms.

Grimez are among the 5 biggest in current Pro competitors.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 19, 2009, 05:06:44 PM
Put your top 5 or top 10 here, I am impressed that you have that much confidence in Haley. That is good to know, looking forward to see him higher! Isn't Hany helping him out?





Haley will definetely place top five Ron, he's qualified for the olympia multiple times and has placed top five in 4 pro shows in the past 3 years.

And he's about 240lbs Ron, not 250.

Top Five

Silvio
Haley
Moe
Hide
Cherry ;D


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: gymguy on January 19, 2009, 05:26:21 PM
1. Silvio
2. Moe
3. Dugdale
4. Rockel


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Alex23 on January 19, 2009, 10:37:53 PM
Haley will definetely place top five Ron, he's qualified for the olympia multiple times and has placed top five in 4 pro shows in the past 3 years.

And he's about 240lbs Ron, not 250.

Top Five

Silvio
Haley --> dellusionite.
Moe
Hide
Cherry ;D


are you coming down for this one son?


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: alnassak on January 20, 2009, 02:59:41 AM
Well let us see,,
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm..

There are 4 Arab bodybuilders 3 of them are going to do their Pro debut and one of them is already famous for having the best abs ever the Abzila  ;)
I expect to see great physiques on them but I don’t expect that they will be placed fairly.  :-\

The top 5 will be as follows:

1-   Silvio Samuel
2-   Moe Al-Muosawi
3-   Mark Dugdale
4-   Ahmed Haider
5-   Ronney Rockel


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: kyomu on January 20, 2009, 03:58:01 AM
Grimez are among the 5 biggest in current Pro competitors.
Certainly. this double bi is sick.
I begin to believe that he can be in top 5.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Stavios on January 20, 2009, 03:08:50 PM
You are right....but you know you look great ...when you look great in bad light...!!! You can clearly see the amount of mass and detail He will bring to the show.

I don't know man, his physique doesn't flow well enough for my taste but it's hard to see with the angle of the pictures.

I have nothing against the guy, hope he does great !
big dude for sure


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: TechnoViking on January 20, 2009, 03:28:05 PM
I particularly care more about the facts, perhaps you mistake my 15th place at the Atlantic City as bragging!
All my statements were facts correcting what was wrongly written.

I'm a humble person but this is my life so If your going to talk about my life let's talk about the facts. It's funny people think they can predict the outcome of an event based on looks and you haven't even seen what 90% of the guy's look like.

We're all pro's isn't this like football except on any given Sunday its on any given Saturday ;)

90% of all pros never look as good as they did at the National level...Keep hitting it hard and show us all that you Sir will be in the 10% ;)


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Viking11 on January 20, 2009, 05:44:29 PM
220 ?

try 245 at one week out  8)


Now, that's a great physique! Huge, defined, no bloat. Easy top 10.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 20, 2009, 06:08:35 PM
I don't know man, his physique doesn't flow well enough for my taste but it's hard to see with the angle of the pictures.

I have nothing against the guy, hope he does great !
big dude for sure

not the prettiest physique, but he packs on tons of muscle ! hope he does well, seems like a decent guy.


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 20, 2009, 06:25:29 PM
Pics taken Today in the Morning....carb deplete one more day...before the Ironman.  8)


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 20, 2009, 06:30:27 PM
He will be 5lb to 10lb and leaner....should cause problems to the Top guys...!!!! 8)


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 20, 2009, 06:32:32 PM
Pics taken Today in the Morning....carb deplete one more day...before the Ironman.  8)

good luck, the ironman is shaping up to be a really stacked show. Im looking forward to seeing it .


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Ron on January 21, 2009, 11:33:48 AM

Competitor meeting is at 2pm on Friday.

Now the Fit Expo and Contest looks like it will be in a different part of the Los Angeles Convention Center, in Hall G.



Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: alejandro_torres on January 21, 2009, 12:54:11 PM
biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig belly right there...


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Spicy Shushi on January 21, 2009, 02:02:51 PM
He will be 5lb to 10lb and leaner....should cause problems to the Top guys...!!!! 8)
Where are the back shots????


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 21, 2009, 02:31:19 PM
Where are the back shots????

Taken Today.....2days out....


Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Ron Avidan's Top 10 Predictions
Post by: kyomu on January 21, 2009, 02:53:46 PM
Taken Today.....2days out....
Unbelievable upper body.But legs from back are bit weak no?