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No one has ever had this complete of a physique. Best ever. Be sure to watch in HD. Clearly the best back ever too.
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No one has ever had this complete of a physique. Best ever. Be sure to watch in HD. Clearly the best back ever too.
Great find there, to me that shoes Dorians skeltral structure @ its best, of course his back and calves are outstanding but its the TOTAL balance of the skeltral structure thats most impressive even there in off season shape.
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Good, but he ain't no Ronnie Coleman.
No doubt about it.
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the great white hope
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Incredible bodybuilder.
That version of Dorian/'93 would give Ronnie at his best a run for his money no doubt about it. Without the muscle tears he was incredibly balanced.
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His shape in 93 is still the benchmark for the sport, he never repeated it, but no one not even Ronnie has surpassed his shape on that day, But Coleman at his best is definately the second best physique ever presented and better than Dorian in all his other Olympia wins, but Dorian 93 is the benchmark.
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Awaits the unemployed fag hulkster to post more shopped pics.
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Now THAT'S a guest posing physique! 8)
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Great find there, to me that shoes Dorians skeltral structure @ its best, of course his back and calves are outstanding but its the TOTAL balance of the skeltral structure thats most impressive even there in off season shape.
Great post as usual ! dead on the money total and complete from head to toe. encompasses ALL of the criteria , density & dryness , size , balance & proportion , posing
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No one has ever had this complete of a physique. Best ever. Be sure to watch in HD. Clearly the best back ever too.
Great find. He is on another level from anyone even to this day . this is 17 fucking years ago and no one can touch this .
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His shape in 93 is still the benchmark for the sport, he never repeated it, but no one not even Ronnie has surpassed his shape on that day, But Coleman at his best is definately the second best physique ever presented and better than Dorian in all his other Olympia wins, but Dorian 93 is the benchmark.
QFT ! Dorian is the standard bearer to this day , after watching this ....the sport hasn't progressed , it's digressed .
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If i see one Ronnie pic, you queers will be owned to next year!!
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If i see one Ronnie pic, you queers will be owned to next year!!
Always count on trolls to be trolls
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Always count on trolls to be trolls
lol if i see Hulkster counting Ronnies glute striations i'll throw up.
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lol if i see Hulkster counting Ronnies glute striations i'll throw up.
:-X lol
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Looks really good there. Just a few weeks from his granite-like conditioning. 1992 and 93 are my favorite Dorian years.
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his quads look weak from the front, no sweep, little speration compared to top pros.
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Great find. He is on another level from anyone even to this day . this is 17 fucking years ago and no one can touch this .
His shape in 93 is still the benchmark for the sport, he never repeated it, but no one not even Ronnie has surpassed his shape on that day, But Coleman at his best is definately the second best physique ever presented and better than Dorian in all his other Olympia wins, but Dorian 93 is the benchmark.
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Ronnie looks amazing there , easily his best showing but in terms of the complete package Dorian has em.
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Ronnie looks amazing there , easily his best showing but in terms of the complete package Dorian has em.
if you stand them next to each other, it would be obvious ronnie PWNS. however viewing them seperate, dorian may have an edge.
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if you stand them next to each other, it would be obvious ronnie PWNS. however viewing them seperate, dorian may have an edge.
Ronnie is 247 pounds there side by side Dorian would make him look small especially when he's offseason
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Ronnie is 247 pounds there side by side Dorian would make him look small especially when he's offseason
you are basing that off of what ? and your comparing dorian offseason during what year to ronnie in contest shape or ronnie offseason and what year?
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you are basing that off of what ? and your comparing dorian offseason during what year to ronnie in contest shape or ronnie offseason and what year?
Dorian offseason would make Ronnie at 247 pounds look small . Ronnie offseason he wouldn't
Dorian in this video vs Ronnie 01 ASC he would make him look small as well as incomplete
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Dorian offseason would make Ronnie at 247 pounds look small . Ronnie offseason he wouldn't
Dorian in this video vs Ronnie 01 ASC he would make him look small as well as incomplete
im not sure what you mean with the first part
however i do not think ronnie and dorian are in the same league in these two videos. side by side ronnie would easily win, in my opinion. what weight do you think dorian is, compared to ronnies '247' ? as you know bb'ers tend to greatly over exaggerate their weight.
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same old dorian..
piss poor arms.
piss poor quads.
wide waist.
great back and calves.
same old story.
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the arms clasped mm is the funniest thing I have ever seen- he flexes his arms and quads and nothing happens lol
they are so poor at that point they dont even 'pop'
and you nuthuggers are orgasming over this? why? his back looks hard and cut. the rest of him is hohum.
hell - look at how poor the side chest is!
sorry. but you are sad if you think that a man with arms and quads that bad is 'complete' LOL
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honestly.
just because it is a new video does not mean it is any sort of standard.
ps I will refrain from posting shot of Ronnie that crush that.
but if you want I will.
92 dorian was no Ronnie Coleman at his peak..
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im not sure what you mean with the first part
however i do not think ronnie and dorian are in the same league in these two videos. side by side ronnie would easily win, in my opinion. what weight do you think dorian is, compared to ronnies '247' ? as you know bb'ers tend to greatly over exaggerate their weight.
I agree that Ronnie could beat Dorian but under NO circumstances would it be easy not by a long shot . Dorian in that vid might be high 250s because he's very lean still , the advantages Dorian has is size , balance & proportion , density & conditioning ( although Ronnie 2001 may have came close enough to that conditioning ) and he's a better poser , all Yates
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A short video about Yates. :)
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The best ever. I love the fact he took the white man genetics and trained like a crazy man and used his seriously underrated brain to create the fantastic monstrosity that was a granite hard Doz!!
I see Hulkhomo has arrived so expect to see the same bullshit pics and posts now for the next 6 pages. Hulksters arrival with dick in hand and Ronnie hardrive full o pics = end of thread for normal people.
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ND, you do realize that the '247 pounds' that you constantly belittle looks like this right?
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ND, you do realize that the '247 pounds' that you constantly belittle looks like this right?
Constantly belittle? moron did you miss the part where I said he looks AMAZING? of course you did , stop projecting your bullshit on to me . I just said Ronnie could beat Dorian and 2001 he looked amazing , stop trolling on here you jerk off
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same old dorian..
piss poor arms.
piss poor quads.
wide waist.
great back and calves.
same old story.
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the arms clasped mm is the funniest thing I have ever seen- he flexes his arms and quads and nothing happens lol
they are so poor at that point they dont even 'pop'
and you nuthuggers are orgasming over this? why? his back looks hard and cut. the rest of him is hohum.
hell - look at how poor the side chest is!
sorry. but you are sad if you think that a man with arms and quads that bad is 'complete' LOL
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honestly.
just because it is a new video does not mean it is any sort of standard.
ps I will refrain from posting shot of Ronnie that crush that.
but if you want I will.
92 dorian was no Ronnie Coleman at his peak..
meltdown everytime a new Yates vid surfaces you have an obligatory meltdown
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You know, ND doesn't dump a shitload of Doz pics in any and every Coleman-related thread. Why don't you just fuck off instead of stalking the guy around Getbig and trying to ignite this old bullshit?
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You know, ND doesn't dump a shitload of Doz pics in any and every Coleman-related thread. Why don't you just fuck off instead of stalking the guy around Getbig and trying to ignite this old bullshit?
QFT ! he's a high-jacker and a troll nothing more.
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No one has ever had this complete of a physique. Best ever. Be sure to watch in HD. Clearly the best back ever too.
Dorian is epic. However, his best ever was 3 weeks out from the 95' Olympia when he was just as symmetrical and dry as in this video, but carrying 20 lbs more of muscle. Now that is the physique that will take another 20 years to be matched...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Dorian is epic. However, his best ever was 3 weeks out from the 95' Olympia when he was just as symmetrical and dry as in this video, but carrying 20 lbs more of muscle. Now that is the physique that will take another 20 years to be matched...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
283 pounds even Coleman 2003 couldn't come near this in ANY level
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Dorian's back here in unbelievable. So fucking thick everywhere. Mind boggling thickness and development
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=276419.0;attach=315841;image)
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You know, ND doesn't dump a shitload of Doz pics in any and every Coleman-related thread
are you new? ::)
you obviously don't pay attention to ND posts if you type that bullshit.. ::)
all I did was properly point out that the 'measely 247 pounds' that ND loves to belittle crushes this 1992 presentation of dorian..as was being discussed before I even opened up this thread. moron. >:(
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You know, ND doesn't dump a shitload of Doz pics in any and every Coleman-related thread. Why don't you just fuck off instead of stalking the guy around Getbig and trying to ignite this old bullshit?
You hit the nail on the head.
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are you new? ::)
you obviously don't pay attention to ND posts if you type that bullshit.. ::)
all I did was properly point out that the 'measely 247 pounds' that ND loves to belittle crushes this 1992 presentation of dorian..as was being discussed before I even opened up this thread. moron. >:(
My ass kid I don't flood every single Ronnie thread with the same pictures that bullshit . and again moron I said he looked amazing in 2001 how is that belittling him? answer the question . pointing out he' ' small ' is belittling him ::) get out of this thread you high-jacker stop spamming every Yates thread will your fan-boy delusions
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Dorian's back here in unbelievable. So fucking thick everywhere. Mind boggling thickness and development
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=276419.0;attach=315841;image)
That whole shot is outstanding from head to toe , nothing is missing. textbook back double biceps shot.
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are you new? ::)
you obviously don't pay attention to ND posts if you type that bullshit.. ::)
all I did was properly point out that the 'measely 247 pounds' that ND loves to belittle crushes this 1992 presentation of dorian..as was being discussed before I even opened up this thread. moron. >:(
No one fucking cares. If you have a beef with him, or something he said, then start a new thread. Stop ruining every other bodybuilding thread. There's very little bodybuilding stuff on the site as it is, you fuck it up with your constant pics of Ronnie in every fucking thread. It's not even like you're funny; you post the same pics and type exactly the same arguments.
I will bow out of an argument with you now as I know what you're like when you devote your copious amounts of freetime to cyber warrioring and posting the same shit over and over. I can't win against a dude in a wheelchair with a 1TB hardrive of Coleman nudes ::)
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meltdown
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meltdown
Yep, satisfied ? :D
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Doz rules! 8)
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That whole shot is outstanding from head to toe , nothing is missing. textbook back double biceps shot.
wrong. his glutes/hams are missing. arms could be better. :-X
great back as always.
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wrong. his glutes/hams are missing. arms could be better. :-X
great back as always.
Hulkster when are you going to give up you Ronnie Coleman fetish and change your avatar to this?
(http://www.bannedinhollywood.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/hulkster.gif)
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wrong. his glutes/hams are missing. arms could be better. :-X
great back as always.
No wonder you're so angry and disappointed bro
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No wonder you're so angry and disappointed bro
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283 pounds even Coleman 2003 couldn't come near this in ANY level
2004 wwas colemans biggest year and he had more muscle than that, albeit he was holding a ton of water.
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wrong. his glutes/hams are missing. arms could be better. :-X
great back as always.
his ARMS biceps/triceps and forearms all look great this particular show his biceps even looks aswesome . his glutes ::) and go learn what the fuck hamstrings are before you say they're missing seriously . again in terms of balance & proportion , density & dryness , size , completeness it's textbook
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2004 wwas colemans biggest year and he had more muscle than that, albeit he was holding a ton of water.
More muscle? he was carry much more fat and water so how much muscle was he really carrying?
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More muscle? he was carry much more fat and water so how much muscle was he really carrying?
watch this from 330 to 530 and tell me if you think dorian ever had this amount of muscle
and check this one out=
^ i think ronnie easily has better legs than dorian ever did. even taking calves into consideration, his hams/quads/gluts all destroy dorian. albeit his quads suffered from deteriorating seperation/definition later in his career.
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watch this from 330 to 530 and tell me if you think dorian ever had this amount of muscle
and check this one out=
^ i think ronnie easily has better legs than dorian ever did. even taking calves into consideration, his hams/quads/gluts all destroy dorian. albeit his quads suffered from deteriorating seperation/definition later in his career.
watch this from 330 to 530 and tell me if you think dorian ever had this amount of muscle
Ronnie may have been heavier but it doesn't necessarily mean he was carrying more muscle per sa , Dorian was 283 pounds in that pic with according to Kevin Horton who took the shot unequaled conditioning
^ i think ronnie easily has better legs than dorian ever did. even taking calves into consideration, his hams/quads/gluts all destroy dorian. albeit his quads suffered from deteriorating seperation/definition later in his career.
better legs? better quads sure bigger , better sweep better development of the rectus femoris , however his quads dominated his pathetic calves which were lacking in shape , proportionate size , development and detail , Ronnie's hams were detailed sure but Dorian is no slouch in this area either and if you look in profile at heavier weights you can see how Ronnie's quads aren't proportion with his hams either and in the end it's not about parts it's about poses , who has the better mandatory pose as a whole meeting ALL of the judging criteria and that's Dorian .
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in the end it's not about parts it's about poses , who has the better mandatory pose as a whole meeting ALL of the judging criteria and that's Dorian .
very true
personally dorian posing onstage doesnt do anythign for me. his back is impressive in soem photos, but in the poses its underwhelming compared to what its reputation would have one believe. his shoulders are ffantastic in the back double bi, his fron ab/thigh at times was great, but at other times horrible. front lat spread looked awesome on him, his signature pose - with a close 2nd his side tricep. but i think he doesnt have any wow factor, and his chest and arms - the two "bodybuilding muscles" are his weak points...which makes it easy to give poses to a guy with good chest and arms.
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very true
personally dorian posing onstage doesnt do anythign for me. his back is impressive in soem photos, but in the poses its underwhelming compared to what its reputation would have one believe. his shoulders are ffantastic in the back double bi, his fron ab/thigh at times was great, but at other times horrible. front lat spread looked awesome on him, his signature pose - with a close 2nd his side tricep. but i think he doesnt have any wow factor, and his chest and arms - the two "bodybuilding muscles" are his weak points...which makes it easy to give poses to a guy with good chest and arms.
But that's not how contests are judged . Contests are judged on ALL of the criteria at once , that means in every single pose they judge muscular bulk , muscle density , muscle dryness , muscle balance & proportion , posing & presentation .
Now Ronnie may beat Dorian clearly in parts of this criteria as a whole Dorian beats him in ALL of it it's part of the same reason why Dorian never lost a ' symmetry round ' despite not being the most ' symmetrical ' in every single pose everything is judged at once
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But that's not how contests are judged . Contests are judged on ALL of the criteria at once , that means in every single pose they judge muscular bulk , muscle density , muscle dryness , muscle balance & proportion , posing & presentation .
Now Ronnie may beat Dorian clearly in parts of this criteria as a whole Dorian beats him in ALL of it it's part of the same reason why Dorian never lost a ' symmetry round ' despite not being the most ' symmetrical ' in every single pose everything is judged at once
dryness and density appear to be in dorians favor, he is "grainy". however i believe this is due to his white skin color, which makes him appear that way, i think if ronnie was white too he would appear similar on stage. however that doesnt matter at all, does it...and i agree, it only matters what it looks like, not what it actually is. (example 240lbs looks like 270lbs.)
but dryness and density - seem to account for conditioning- however what about strations and vascularity? to me those are a big part too. if those arent part of the judging portion for conditioning, then that needs to be changed. and in those areas - ronnie wins.
bulk would go to ronnie.
muslce balance and proprtion i think would be tied.... dorians arms and chest - ronnies abdomen and calves.
so if striations and vascularity have no say whatsoever, then i guess its possible that techinaically dorian is better......however its hard to judge without having them onstage together.
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watch this from 330 to 530 and tell me if you think dorian ever had this amount of muscle
and check this one out=
^ i think ronnie easily has better legs than dorian ever did. even taking calves into consideration, his hams/quads/gluts all destroy dorian. albeit his quads suffered from deteriorating seperation/definition later in his career.
You are talking to N.D. about Dorian, so i wouldn't hold my breath on him admitting Ronnie was bigger and more muscular than Dorian.
as a SANE person viewing those vids...it is obvious Ronnie is far bigger and more muscular than dorian ever was, it's a no-brainer....the guy doesn't look human.
And PS I don't care what the scale says, bodybuilding is all about appearance.
PPS I totally sgree about Dorian's back not being all it's cracked up to be....and yes ND...I've seen ALL of his pictures.
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Hulkster!
I'm calling another truce in yet another Dorian/Ronnie oiled men in thongs thread. ::)
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of course dorian looks great here but guest posing doesnt mean he was at his off season shape!!.. sure this was few days after his olympia victory!!..
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You are talking to N.D. about Dorian, so i wouldn't hold my breath on him admitting Ronnie was bigger and more muscular than Dorian.
as a SANE person viewing those vids...it is obvious Ronnie is far bigger and more muscular than dorian ever was, it's a no-brainer....the guy doesn't look human.
And PS I don't care what the scale says, bodybuilding is all about appearance.
PPS I totally sgree about Dorian's back not being all it's cracked up to be....and yes ND...I've seen ALL of his pictures.
You are talking to N.D. about Dorian, so i wouldn't hold my breath on him admitting Ronnie was bigger and more muscular than Dorian.
as a SANE person viewing those vids...it is obvious Ronnie is far bigger and more muscular than dorian ever was, it's a no-brainer....the guy doesn't look human.
You missed the point completely I posted the pic of Dorian at 283 pounds and said Ronnie 2003 couldn't touch him ...now my point stands Ronnie 2003 was 287 pounds Dorian 283 with better conditioning you think Ronnie was ' far bigger ' and ' more muscular ' ? I don't think so , how is weighing 5 more pounds constitute being much bigger? it doesn't same with muscularity if it's at the expense of conditioning
Kevin Horton who's photographed both men throughout their entire careers has said in reference to that picture specifically that Dorian's conditioning at that weight was unmatched even to this day so I'll take his word on the topic over yours any day. And for argument's sake let's say he is much bigger so what? that doesn't mean much when it's at the expense of density & dryness and balance & proportion . which is exactly why Ronnie's all-time best showing is considered his lightest for among that reasons
And PS I don't care what the scale says, bodybuilding is all about appearance.
PPS I totally sgree about Dorian's back not being all it's cracked up to be....and yes ND...I've seen ALL of his pictures.
You make a good point , they judges don't weight contestants on stage and it is all about appearance , as well as the judging criteria , simply who looks better in the mandatory poses and in my opinion Dorian clearly does
I don't care if you think Dorian's back isn't all it's cracked up to be it's all good I'm not here to try and change anyone's opinion just share my own , plenty of people think Dorian's back is insane including Ronnie himself.
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dorian does look fantastic in that vid, but he is no ronnie coleman.
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Would look like a 10 year old boy compared to coleman.
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Dorian is all Back and Calves.. 8)
That’s is all and nothing else.. ;)
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The record book will show that Yates defeated Coleman and all bollocks aside that is all that will matter in time. Coleman is a freak though and easily the most genetically gifted to grow muscle bodybuilder ever, but his structure is something overlooked by many guys here, and as great as his hamstrings were from behind, mostly as they were so defined, from the side in comparison they lacked overall depth and tie in when compared to Yates. Yates in 93 could beat Coleman at his best in nearly every compulsory pose, the side poses he would take as he had better legs from the sides, hamstring flow, and from the rear it was close but the calves pull it out for Yates. The front ab pose he owned it before his gut blew out post 93, and the front lat spread the same, i would also give him the front double bi in 93 as his bodies overall flow and taper beats Ronnie's structure, only as he has those overly long arms and legs with torso deficiency in comparison.
Bodybuilding is the sum of all parts structure and symmetry included, if it was only about muscle and who had the most Ronnie would win but it isn't.
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of course dorian looks great here but guest posing doesnt mean he was at his off season shape!!.. sure this was few days after his olympia victory!!..
I was at this show,it was held at the Aquarius nightclub in Chesterfield,it was a qualifier for the British champs,and it was 9 weeks BEFORE the Olympia in 1992.The kind of condition Dorian was in at this show is what todays pro`s hope to be in a week out from the contest.
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Yes, he looks amazing, but put a prime Ronnie next to him and you wouldn't even notice Doz.......
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Yes, he looks amazing, but put a prime Ronnie next to him and you wouldn't even notice Doz.......
traitor
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traitor
Deal with it, cracker.
Big Ron kills him.........
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Deal with it, cracker.
Big Ron kills him.........
I cannot and will not accept that
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End of thread..........no doubt about it.
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Can't believe that's 17 years ago! Time frickin flies! Yates looked awesome, but not comparable to Ronnie at his best, as it should be-Ronnie is the successor. What I'm most disappointed with is the fact that he was still using that posing routine in at the end of his career. How about a little creativity?
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Both terrible terrible bodybuilders.
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More muscle? he was carry much more fat and water so how much muscle was he really carrying?
Well with an ass and hams more striated than Dorian EVER had then Ronnie's fat probably wasn't very high that year if you're honest. The man said Ronnie was carrying a bunch of water, but even 20lb of water (a ridiculous figure) would put him at 276 for that show.
Weight is not important anyway, but visible size can be, and when one guy makes another guy look like he's tiny WHILST having the lines in the ass which judges love, then you can bet Dorian's got his hands full. Bob Paris had better proportions than both of them but do you think he would win against either? Size and conditioning matter. Ronnie would lose calves and win EVERYTHING else, and Ronnie's calves in 2003 were big, just not some of the biggest ever like Dorian. Ronnie's delts alone would be bigger in 2003 than Dorian's whole body haha, well you know what I mean.
Ronnie had the bigger, rounder muscles, and IMO the proportion, since his delts arms and chest all fitted together amazingly, his quads were the only quads in the world which could keep up with that upper body, and he had a thinner waist than Dorian so when he sucked his gut in he would, for that shot, look better proportioned. Lats probably biger than Dorian's but not as dry are think looking, but some of the grand prix shots from 2003/2004 show a crazy christmas tree which would make Dorian's secret weapon back suddenly diminish in awesomeness.
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discuss these men in great detail please!!
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discuss these men in great detail please!!
LOL And I thought I was gay. The schmoes never stop... :D
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LOL And I thought I was gay. The schmoes never stop... :D
Talking about bb'ers is more gay than sucking cock?
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LOL And I thought I was gay. The schmoes never stop... :D
You're not gay anymore... :o
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You're not gay anymore... :o
But Tombz sure is, still drooling over Ronnies glutes.
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The record book will show that Yates defeated Coleman and all bollocks aside that is all that will matter in time.
the record also shows that Ronnie was beaten by Kevin, shawn, momo , labrada, dillett, taylor etc etc etc.
you really think that any of them could beat Ronnie at his prime? ie not his mid 90's pre Mr. O shape that they all beat?
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you think that because dorian beat a sub par ronnie that eveyrone else also beat, that is all that matters in time LOL
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You are talking to N.D. about Dorian, so i wouldn't hold my breath on him admitting Ronnie was bigger and more muscular than Dorian.
as a SANE person viewing those vids...it is obvious Ronnie is far bigger and more muscular than dorian ever was, it's a no-brainer....the guy doesn't look human.
And PS I don't care what the scale says, bodybuilding is all about appearance.
PPS I totally sgree about Dorian's back not being all it's cracked up to be....and yes ND...I've seen ALL of his pictures.
well said.
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Would look like a 10 year old boy compared to coleman.
yup.
let the record show this: LOL
the nuthuggers are orgasming over a dorian video that is nothing compared to coleman.
its the same old same old
dorian looks great standing alone
put him next to someone like ronnie, and well, this is what happens.
sorry:
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I cant stop laughing at that hahahahahahaha :-*
poor dorian. great for his time.
sad for ronnie coleman's time.
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I cant stop laughing at that hahahahahahaha :-*
poor dorian. great for his time.
sad for ronnie coleman's time.
And now Ronnie is sad for everyone's time!
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I cant stop laughing at that hahahahahahaha :-*
poor dorian. great for his time.
sad for ronnie coleman's time.
At least Dorian was smart enough to stop.
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Well with an ass and hams more striated than Dorian EVER had then Ronnie's fat probably wasn't very high that year if you're honest. The man said Ronnie was carrying a bunch of water, but even 20lb of water (a ridiculous figure) would put him at 276 for that show.
Weight is not important anyway, but visible size can be, and when one guy makes another guy look like he's tiny WHILST having the lines in the ass which judges love, then you can bet Dorian's got his hands full. Bob Paris had better proportions than both of them but do you think he would win against either? Size and conditioning matter. Ronnie would lose calves and win EVERYTHING else, and Ronnie's calves in 2003 were big, just not some of the biggest ever like Dorian. Ronnie's delts alone would be bigger in 2003 than Dorian's whole body haha, well you know what I mean.
Ronnie had the bigger, rounder muscles, and IMO the proportion, since his delts arms and chest all fitted together amazingly, his quads were the only quads in the world which could keep up with that upper body, and he had a thinner waist than Dorian so when he sucked his gut in he would, for that shot, look better proportioned. Lats probably biger than Dorian's but not as dry are think looking, but some of the grand prix shots from 2003/2004 show a crazy christmas tree which would make Dorian's secret weapon back suddenly diminish in awesomeness.
It is a no brainer that Coleman was carrying more fat and water under his skin at 287 lbs than Dorian. Even if Coleman was carrying more muscle as well, the added fat and water mitigates completely the added muscle weight. And it doesen't really mean anything, because Dorian would have stepped onstage as heavy or heavier than Coleman if he were carrying as much fat and water. Remember that Yates had visible abdominals and christmas-tree at 305 lbs off-season, which is 18 lbs more than Coleman competed at the 2003 Olympia.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I cant stop laughing at that hahahahahahaha
poor dorian. great for his time.
sad for ronnie coleman's time.
Sure, you post a pic of Dorian guest posing in off-season mode without oil and stage light, and then compare it to photoshopped pics of Coleman all oiled up under stage lighting. Yeah, that's fair.
And what is this stupid argument about bodybuilder such and such looking great standing alone but like crap next to other bodybuilders? Bodybuilders only win shows, by definition, if they look better than their competitors whilst standing next to them. There is no such thing as a Mr.Olympia who only looks good when he isn't being compared to other bodybuilders, you idiot.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ronnie needs to go and start another occupation whatever he has to do. I understand the guy loves to sport and can't think of nothing else. I swear the guy can't think of nothing else then being back on the stage again. What I'm saying is that he needs to give it up. He left and he needs to stay gone. He had his time and that was in the past. He's trying relive what he felt as Mr. Olympia and that shouldn't happen. I'm not saying quit the bodybuilding, just competing. Allot of people is sick of looking at the guy on a bodybuilding stage. He should do what allot of pros do is run a gym in there retirement. It's not a bad job and he doesn't have to go through humiliation if he isn't his best. Weider wont give him a 9th title, he lost for a reason. Don't be blind in thinking that either. Expect new faces holding the Mr. Olympia title in the next few years.
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And now Ronnie is sad for everyone's time!
lmao
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yup.
let the record show this: LOL
the nuthuggers are orgasming over a dorian video that is nothing compared to coleman.
its the same old same old
dorian looks great standing alone
put him next to someone like ronnie, and well, this is what happens.
sorry:
Put him next to Ronnie and this happens lmao owned and for the record NEITHER are at their bests
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yup.
let the record show this: LOL
the nuthuggers are orgasming over a dorian video that is nothing compared to coleman.
its the same old same old
dorian looks great standing alone
put him next to someone like ronnie, and well, this is what happens.
sorry:
If the video was nothing YOU wouldn't be posting here the fact you are proves it ;)
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You missed the point completely I posted the pic of Dorian at 283 pounds and said Ronnie 2003 couldn't touch him ...now my point stands Ronnie 2003 was 287 pounds Dorian 283 with better conditioning you think Ronnie was ' far bigger ' and ' more muscular ' ? I don't think so , how is weighing 5 more pounds constitute being much bigger? it doesn't same with muscularity if it's at the expense of conditioning
ronnie didtn look 5 lbs heavier though.
these weights you mention cant be trusted... bodybuilders lie extremely about this.
what matters is how mcuh they looked like they weighed.
to me dorian looks 250, ronnie looked 275.
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Sure, you post a pic of Dorian guest posing in off-season mode without oil and stage light, and then compare it to photoshopped pics of Coleman all oiled up under stage lighting. Yeah, that's fair.
yup, that pic of dorian guest posting in off season mode without oil and stage light is what idiot nuthuggers like you and ND have been orgasming over for the last 4 pages. ::)
secondly., the ronnie pic is not photoshopped at all - you can't even use that bullshit excuse because its not one of Bizzy's pics that you claim is photoshopped.
I used that pic purposely, just to show everyone how you nuthuggers claim EVERY ronnie 99 pic shopped - Bizzy or otherwise..
and you did.
you fell right into the trap.. ::)
how pathetic.
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At least Dorian was smart enough to stop.
hard to say. Ronnie no doubt has dorian's whole life savings as petty cash..
Ronnie is still bringing in the money.
dorian is well, here you go: lol
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And now Ronnie is sad for everyone's time!
I hope everyone realizes that ronnie hasn't even BEGUN to pose yet in either of those shot.
he hasn't even spread his lats yet in the first shot lol
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ronnie didtn look 5 lbs heavier though.
these weights you mention cant be trusted... bodybuilders lie extremely about this.
what matters is how mcuh they looked like they weighed.
to me dorian looks 250, ronnie looked 275.
Oh I see only the Ronnie weight is closer to the mark? ::) in that pic Dorian looks way more than 250 and Dorian was as honest as it gets even mentioning the topic you just did , Dorian is a straight shooter
quote from Kevin Horton
At all times , he is precisely what he says he is. exaggeration and inaccuracy are not in his nature. Never can you put him on the spot. If he says his arms are 22 inches you can measure them and they'll be 22 inches.
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I hope everyone realizes that ronnie hasn't even BEGUN to pose yet in either of those shot.
he hasn't even spread his lats yet in the first shot lol
lmao excuses excuses
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Oh I see only the Ronnie weight is closer to the mark? ::) in that pic Dorian looks way more than 250 and Dorian was as honest as it gets even mentioning the topic you just did , Dorian is a straight shooter
quote from Kevin Horton
At all times , he is precisely what he says he is. exaggeration and inaccuracy are not in his nature. Never can you put him on the spot. If he says his arms are 22 inches you can measure them and they'll be 22 inches.
dorian lies, we know that. about his drug use. i forget exactly what he has said in the past but i remember quotes form him and it was obvious he lied.
either way...dont matter. ronnie looks better in my opinion.
and you have your opinion.
nothing gonna change that.
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hard to say. Ronnie no doubt has dorian's whole life savings as petty cash..
Ronnie is still bringing in the money.
dorian is well, here you go: lol
You're reaching BigBobs level :-X
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dorian lies, we know that. about his drug use. i forget exactly what he has said in the past but i remember quotes form him and it was obvious he lied.
either way...dont matter. ronnie looks better in my opinion.
and you have your opinion.
nothing gonna change that.
lmao Dorian lies ? prove it , don't say it. Dorian has always been honest about his drug use as well . and I'm not trying to change your opinion just give mine.
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here is ronnie supposedly at 247, dorian supposedly at 257 and dorian gets crushed:
numbers mean nothing in bb.
but ND and Co cling to them as this thread shows, because they need some advantage to offset the reality that dorian didn't hold up to a prime time ronnie.
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yup, that pic of dorian guest posting in off season mode without oil and stage light is what idiot nuthuggers like you and ND have been orgasming over for the last 4 pages. ::)
secondly., the ronnie pic is not photoshopped at all - you can't even use that bullshit excuse because its not one of Bizzy's pics that you claim is photoshopped.
I used that pic purposely, just to show everyone how you nuthuggers claim EVERY ronnie 99 pic shopped - Bizzy or otherwise..
and you did.
you fell right into the trap.. ::)
how pathetic.
Bullshit , you said Kevin claimed all 99 pics are photoshopped and when he called you on your bullshit and told you to provide the proof to that claim you backpeddled NO not all 99 Olympia pics are enhanced MOST of Bizzy's are period , it's a proven fact
The ones Forcedreps posted aren't in question yet you wouldn't use them even though they were available YOU kept using enhanced ones and still do even after Kevin Horton exposed you lol
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Bullshit , you said Kevin claimed all 99 pics are photoshopped and when he called you on your bullshit and told you to provide the proof to that claim you backpeddled NO not all 99 Olympia pics are enhanced MOST of Bizzy's are period , it's a proven fact
The ones Forcedreps posted aren't in question yet you wouldn't use them even though they were available YOU kept using enhanced ones and still do even after Kevin Horton exposed you lol
blah blah blah ::).
you and your bitches were caught in my trap.
just as I knew you would be.
you are all so sad and predictable.. :-\
you whole argument for dorian being better than ronnie was you always claim whenever a pic/vid of ronnie 99 is posted, you cry fake/shopped..
thats what it comes down to. Ronnie 99 is clearly better in the pics and vids, so you claim they are fake.. ::)
sad.
because ronnie 99 really looked like Ronnie 99.
deal with it. ::)
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here is ronnie supposedly at 247, dorian supposedly at 257 and dorian gets crushed:
numbers mean nothing in bb.
but ND and Co cling to them as this thread shows, because they need some advantage to offset the reality that dorian didn't hold up to a prime time ronnie.
LMFAO A ' comparison ' that a Ronnie guy made and you're trying to pass that garbage off as REALITY? LMFAO let's see who is putting these together? Ronnie-fan-boys where Ronnie has the same size calves as Dorian and Yates has just a narrow waist lol
This is reality kid
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yeah, the reality that dorian has the worst arms of any pro in the last 40 years in that pose. look at that :-\
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blah blah blah ::).
you and your bitches were caught in my trap.
just as I knew you would be.
you are all so sad and predictable.. :-\
lmfao what trap is that? I never claimed that particular rear latspread is enhanced and again prove we claim ALL 99 Olympia pics are photoshopped oppppssss that's right you can't
You were busted a million times knowingly using photoshopped pics case closed , don't be surprised when people question anything you post , oh and let's add those made up quotes too lol
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LMFAO A ' comparison ' that a Ronnie guy made and you're trying to pass that garbage off as REALITY? LMFAO let's see who is putting these together? Ronnie-fan-boys where Ronnie has the same size calves as Dorian and Yates has just a narrow waist lol
This is reality kid
two things
not hitting the pose the same way
ronnie way before his prime
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yeah, the reality that dorian has the worst arms of any pro in the last 40 years in that pose. look at that :-\
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yeah, the reality that dorian has the worst arms of any pro in the last 40 years in that pose. look at that :-\
don't try and divert the topic , Dorian in reality weighs just 7 more pounds and crushes Ronnie , Ronnie at 247 pounds ain't making Dorian look small ONLY in your heavily slanted comparisons does this happen ;)
Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between.
REALITY kid , deal with it. ;)
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how is pointing out how bad dorian's arms are in a pose that you are comparing to ronnie diverting the topic? ::) ??? ::)
its right on topic moron.
his arms are quite possibly the worst arms EVER in that pose and you know it.
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you do realize that a 45 year old retired ronnie is right on par with a prime 1995 dorian don't you: LOL
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Hulkster please say you are joking here, seriously!?....
you do realize that a 45 year old retired ronnie is right on par with a prime 1995 dorian don't you: LOL
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how is pointing out how bad dorian's arms are in a pose that you are comparing to ronnie diverting the topic? ::) ??? ::)
its right on topic moron.
his arms are quite possibly the worst arms EVER in that pose and you know it.
BULLSHIT as usual ignorance personified as usual , Dorian's biceps , triceps and forearms are great in this pose in this year kid , reality will always crush your stupidity
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Hulkster please say you are joking here, seriously!?....
The sad part is he's dead serious . everyone came on this thread looked at the vid and was impressed , he on the other hand has to troll , even Coleman fans said " hey he looks great but I think Ronnie is better " this moron just trolls his bullshit in every single Yates thread it's old
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Hulkster please say you are joking here, seriously!?....
kidding
but only to a certain degree.
fact is, a prime dorian should be CRUSHING a 45 year old over the hill retired ronnie.
and he really isn't. he is better.
but not by the degree that he should be.
but then again, a prime ronnie was that much better than a prime dorian so...
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ND just lost his hardon for dorian :-X
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I was at this show,it was held at the Aquarius nightclub in Chesterfield,it was a qualifier for the British champs,and it was 9 weeks BEFORE the Olympia in 1992.The kind of condition Dorian was in at this show is what todays pro`s hope to be in a week out from the contest.
OWNED
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kidding
but only to a certain degree.
fact is, a prime dorian should be CRUSHING a 45 year old over the hill retired ronnie.
and he really isn't. he is better.
but not by the degree that he should be.
but then again, a prime ronnie was that much better than a prime dorian so...
Dorian has better balance & proportion , density & dryness , more muscular bulk and he's more complete as well as being a better poser . Dorian beats Ronnie ;)
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ND just lost his hardon for dorian :-X
You're the one with a hardon for Dorian you're in every single Yates thread ;)
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hey ND post some screencaps from that vid of dorian's side chest and arms clasped mm.
lol
you haven't the balls.
you post all the back shots while ignoring how bad his arms and quads were
dorian was nothing special from the front. but had a great back.
same old same old.
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hey ND post some screencaps from that vid of dorian's side chest and arms clasped mm.
lol
you haven't the balls.
you post all the back shots while ignoring how bad his arms and quads were
dorian was nothing special from the front. but had a great back.
same old same old.
Nothing special from the front , yet his ab-thigh , and front latspread destroy Ronnies ;) lol again you think the hands clasped most muscular is the only pose ::) it's all you ever pose and Dorian destroys Ronnie from the sides as well , like you said same old same old
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You melted down when the 95 Olympia footage was posted , same as the pre-contest 1993 footage and now this , same old same old lol
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LMAO
so much for your bullshit ND
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like a 10 year old child..as mentioned LOL
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LMAO
so much for your bullshit ND
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That front latspread is impressive for Ronnie , NOT for Dorian sorry kid Dorian THIS crushes anyone's frontlatspread ;)
and the side chest LMFAO another great screencap from Bizzy ::) enough said
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lol ND posting the morphed dorian shot with the platz quads and shawn ray waist LOL
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note the quad morph:
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like a 10 year old child..as mentioned LOL
Case closed any other poses you want crushed let me know.
Ronnie�s side chest leaves a lot to be desired when compared to people who can actually hit it right like Dexter and Jay. His side triceps shot is not one of the best in the business and he got exposed because of it. As well
Shawn Ray commenting on the obvious ;)
Whatever happened to the side chest pose? Not since Dorian Yates retired have I seen an IFBB pro nail this pose the way it should be hit. Look at the May 2008 cover of FLEX and you will see Arnold Schwarzenegger hitting the side chest pose correctly. See how he pulls the forearm into his rib cage? See how he arches his back, sticks out his chest and is turned to the side? This is how it should be done. So many pros today keep their arms too low and turn too much to the front. It's almost like a front chest pose.
Flex September 2008
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lol ND posting the morphed dorian shot with the platz quads and shawn ray waist LOL
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note the quad morph:
ha ha ha still in denial? bottom pic is from 1994 top pic 1995 that's a full year in between and again didn't Kevin Horton tell you it is UNTOUCHED he went so far as to say if YOU posted then it might be enhanced lol
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Hulkster, you are truly pathetic. 20,000 fucking posts on nothing but Ronnie. You invade every fucking thread and do nothing but hang off Ronnie's nuts. Get a life already. You are comparing screencaps from a Youtube video from Yates' guest posing 9 weeks prior to the olympia to the best studio shots of Ronnie at the contest hahahahahaha Yet another meltdown from Hulkster just like when the 93 precontest video was revealed and the 95 shots. ND right on.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=276419.0;attach=315976;image)
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bottom pic is from 1994 top pic 1995 that's a full year in between
sure it is ND
sure it is.. ::)
just keep believing that.
if I recall, the rest of getbig doesn't..
there was a thread started about that particular pic (not by me) and you and your bitches with an agenda were the only people that naively believed it was from a different year than that shoot..even the curls on dorian's hair are the same LMAO..
Kevin was mistaken. its that simple.
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lol ND posting the morphed dorian shot with the platz quads and shawn ray waist LOL
::)
note the quad morph:
I love how you renamed the 1994 pic ' 95shoot ' which is a blatant lie , here is where I scaned that from add that to your list of using enhanced screencaps and making up quotes
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Hulkster, you are truly pathetic. 20,000 fucking posts on nothing but Ronnie. You invade every fucking thread and do nothing but hang off Ronnie's nuts. Get a life already. You are comparing screencaps from a Youtube video from Yates' guest posing 9 weeks prior to the olympia to the best studio shots of Ronnie at the contest hahahahahaha Yet another meltdown from Hulkster just like when the 93 precontest video was revealed and the 95 shots. ND right on.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=276419.0;attach=315976;image)
excuses excues
and a meltdown to boot.. :P
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Hulkster, you are truly pathetic. 20,000 fucking posts on nothing but Ronnie. You invade every fucking thread and do nothing but hang off Ronnie's nuts. Get a life already. You are comparing screencaps from a Youtube video from Yates' guest posing 9 weeks prior to the olympia to the best studio shots of Ronnie at the contest hahahahahaha Yet another meltdown from Hulkster just like when the 93 precontest video was revealed and the 95 shots. ND right on.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=276419.0;attach=315976;image)
Great post ! he never recovered and is digressing even more that any new footage of Yates comes out , it kills him so he goes on the offensive
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I love how you renamed the 1994 pic ' 95shoot ' which is a blatant lie , here is where I scaned that from add that to your list of using enhanced screencaps and making up quotes
who cares what year it was
the point is that the morphed lat shot is nothing more than one of the 94 shots morphed..
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sure it is ND
sure it is.. ::)
just keep believing that.
if I recall, the rest of getbig doesn't..
there was a thread started about that particular pic (not by me) and you and your bitches with an agenda were the only people that naively believed it was from a different year than that shoot..even the curls on dorian's hair are the same LMAO..
Kevin was mistaken. its that simple.
There you go again presuming to speak for GetBig , who says it's fixed? fan-boys that can't admit Ronnie is getting obliterated by Dorian at 283 pounds
Again now you're back to calling McGough a liar which is indicative of your lies , it's called projection .
Horton addressed your claims it was ' morphed ' said it was scanned from the original negative and he was a few weeks out from the 1995 Mr Olympia , the pic I posted proves the front double biceps is from 1994 you're owned as usual , what else are you going to say? ;)
Dorian at a lighter weight destroys Coleman's front latspread , look at the lats it's night & day
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Horton addressed your claims it was ' morphed
correction: he addressed pretty much everyone except you and your bitches claim..
don't single me out.
that pic was the subject of much discussion because of its obvious..well... gross inconsistencies with dorian's real physique...
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Ronnie can't touch this. And that's Dorian in 90 or 91 too.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=276419.0;attach=315994;image)
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who cares what year it was
the point is that the morphed lat shot is nothing more than one of the 94 shots morphed..
the point is YOU have nothing as usual , pic is real Horton said so , cry me a river Hulkster Timberlake , Ronnie can't touch Dorian ANYWHERE not size , not conditioning , not balance , not posing
Dorian 283 pounds would trample Ronnie 99 he would look like a toy next to Yates that big
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correction: he addressed pretty much everyone except you and your bitches claim..
don't single me out.
that pic was the subject of much discussion because of its obvious..well... gross inconsistencies with dorian's real physique...
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Correction Mr Moron YOUR CLAIM
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Ronnie can't touch this. And that's Dorian in 90 or 91 too.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=276419.0;attach=315994;image)
He really can't , just look at the Dorian's lats even compared to Ronnie 99 Olympia , look how much of Yates' lats can be seen compared to Ronnie's it's crazy nevermind Dorian's superior lat sweep
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Correction Mr Moron YOUR CLAIM
nope: read and learn idiot. there were MANY such posts like this..
stop singling me out >:(
Re: ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT PLATZ'S QUADS WOULD LOOK LIKE ON DORIAN.....
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2008, 04:05:53 PM » Quote
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I'm a Dorian fan but that picture is hilarious. When have Dorian's quads EVER looked like that?
And that waist HAHA.
The Dorian/Ronnie debate was interesting at first but it's honestly starting to get insulting to Ronnie.
Ronnie is the best ever and it will be a long time before we see someone better than him.
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nope: read and learn idiot. there were MANY such posts like this..
stop singling me out >:(
Re: ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT PLATZ'S QUADS WOULD LOOK LIKE ON DORIAN.....
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I'm a Dorian fan but that picture is hilarious. When have Dorian's quads EVER looked like that?
And that waist HAHA.
The Dorian/Ronnie debate was interesting at first but it's honestly starting to get insulting to Ronnie.
Ronnie is the best ever and it will be a long time before we see someone better than him.
Fuck me he responded directly to YOU , he told YOU it was not morphed , I don't care what the other nutt-huggers claim , Kevin Horton responded to YOUR claim and crushed you again
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..ND is scrambling to try and find a way out of this...
fact is, many many many getbiggers agree that it was morphed..
but ND likes to ignore all that and pretend that most of getbig = me only ::)
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Fuck me he responded directly to YOU , he told YOU it was not morphed , I don't care what the other nutt-huggers claim , Kevin Horton responded to YOUR claim and crushed you again
meltdown.
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meltdown.
ha ha ha ha you think you can weasel your way out? it was you who made the claim and Kevin Horton corrected your claim , who cares what the other nutt-huggers think? they're dead wrong just like you . :D
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time to correct you again ND:
getbiggers were already showing that the pic was morphed before I ever saw the pic..
I came late into the discussion of the BB.com pic..
sorry to burst your bubble yet again..
but you should be used to that by now.. :P
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time to correct you again ND:
getbiggers were already showing that the pic was morphed before I ever saw the pic..
I came late into the discussion of the BB.com pic..
sorry to burst your bubble yet again..
but you should be used to that by now.. :P
You didn't correct anything , again who did Kevin Horton respond to ? ;) yeah I thought so , hey thanks for playing though , now we both own you ;D ;)
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YOU guys are weirdos, holy hell.
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YOU guys are weirdos, holy hell.
he is , he's the troll in every Yates thread
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YOU guys are weirdos, holy hell.
the word is "schmoes." ::)
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the word is "schmoes." ::)
Don't lump me in with yourself , I don't lust after Yates you don't see me comparing his glutes from one year to another like Hulkster .
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Don't lump me in with yourself , I don't lust after Yates you don't see me comparing his glutes from one year to another like Hulkster .
no you just compare his piss poor arms and piss poor quads from one year to the next... ::)
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no you just compare his piss poor arms and piss poor quads from one year to the next... ::)
meltdown ;) continue
those arms destroyed Ronnie's for years on end , thanks for playing though
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meltdown ;) continue
those arms destroyed Ronnie's for years on end , thanks for playing though
actually the entire roster of pros destroyed ronnie for years on end.
but thats because he wasn't ronnie yet.
thanks for playing though.. ::)
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those arms destroyed Ronnie's for years on end , thanks for playing though
Brutal schmoe delusions while sniffing up the bricklayer's jock LOL
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actually the entire roster of pros destroyed ronnie for years on end.
but thats because he wasn't ronnie yet.
thanks for playing though.. ::)
And what happened after Ronnie became Ronnie? he said he would never beat Dorian , thanks for playing though ;)
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Brutal schmoe delusions while sniffing up the bricklayer's jock LOL
Troll number 2 right on time. can't stick to the topic at hand as usual. ;)
let me try one of those slanted comparisons lol
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Brutal schmoe delusions while sniffing up the bricklayer's jock LOL
At 96 mr. olympia dorian looked overdieted and ill..
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Anyone got any recent shots of Dorian? IF he posed down with Ronnie today, who would win???
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Hulkster, you are truly pathetic. 20,000 fucking posts on nothing but Ronnie. You invade every fucking thread and do nothing but hang off Ronnie's nuts. Get a life already. You are comparing screencaps from a Youtube video from Yates' guest posing 9 weeks prior to the olympia to the best studio shots of Ronnie at the contest hahahahahaha Yet another meltdown from Hulkster just like when the 93 precontest video was revealed and the 95 shots. ND right on.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=276419.0;attach=315976;image)
Good upper leg development, looks like aschwazennegar's quads and hams, great for the 70s.
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Good upper leg development, looks like aschwazennegar's quads and hams, great for the 70s.
hahaha exactly.
and this morons love to post bullshit about how 'complete' dorian was... ::) ::)
complete for 1972 hahahaha
like I said, piss poor quads, piss poor arms, missing hams.
but ND has no fucking clue, so it goes right over his head.. :-\
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Still sad to see that Ronnie at his supposedly best (AC 2001) has a terrible midsection. Dorian's mid section might not have been great but 'til 94, it was pretty good. Ronnie was extremely impressive that year but I still prefer him in '98.
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Still sad to see that Ronnie at his supposedly best (AC 2001) has a terrible midsection
when holding it it, it wasn't that bad:
and he was wasp waist compared to the Keg
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Still sad to see that Ronnie at his supposedly best (AC 2001) has a terrible midsection. Dorian's mid section might not have been great but 'til 94, it was pretty good. Ronnie was extremely impressive that year but I still prefer him in '98.
many feel his best overall look was 99.
its hard to argue:
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looks like aschwazennegar's quads and hams, great for the 70s.
lol note the difference hahahaha :P
but wait! I though dorian was more complete, with more muscular bulk, density etc. LMAO ::)
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another thread ruined by fagster and Narcissisticfaggety
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when holding it it, it wasn't that bad:
and he was wasp waist compared to the Keg
wow a ' wasp waist ' with shit for abs , intercostals , serratus and obliques lol
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another thread ruined by fagster and Narcissisticfaggety
My ass don't lump me in with that moron , I was sticking to the topic which was Dorian Yates and guess what troll came in here and started his same nonsense?
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hahaha exactly.
and this morons love to post bullshit about how 'complete' dorian was... ::) ::)
complete for 1972 hahahaha
like I said, piss poor quads, piss poor arms, missing hams.
but ND has no fucking clue, so it goes right over his head.. :-\
Flex Magazine July , 2005
Wonder wheels: the 40 all-time greatest legs
DORIAN YATES
As a winner of six Mr. Olympia titles (1992-1997), Dorian Yates set a new standard for overall size and density in the mid-'90s. From the top of his vastus lateralis to the bottom of his soleus, his legs were thick from every angle. Yates believed in high-intensity training, exhausting his muscles by putting maximum effort into a few focused sets.
SQUAT OR NOT?
"Some people's joints articulate in a manner that allows them to benefit
greatly from squats; others may not benefit at all. If you're not too
tall and have short limbs, it may be the best exercise for you, but if
you're tall with long legs, it might be both ineffective and dangerous.
I was stubbornly faithful to squats for years until I finally realized
they were not well-suited for my body structure. After I switched to
more muscle-intensive movements, my gains in leg size were astounding."
--Dorian Yates
DORIAN YATES' LEG ROUTINE
EXERCISE SETS REPS
Leg extensions 2* 10-12
1 10-12
Leg presses 2* 10-12
1 10-12
Hack squats 1* 10-12
1 10-12
Lying leg curls 1* 10-12
1 10-12
Stiff-leg deadlifts 1 8-10
Standing leg curls 1 8-10
Standing calf raises 1* 10-12
1 10-12
Seated calf raises 1 10-12
* Warm-up sets
Ouch that's gotta hurt ;) complete from top to bottom thick from all angles lol 2 of the 40 greatest of all-time
Hulkster = owned
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LOL they had dorian on the 40 greatest legs list? hahahahhaha
::)
man, the blowjobs dorian gave uncle joe are still benefiting him to this day..
worst 40 legs ever: aka Arnold Legs hahahaha
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Good upper leg development, looks like aschwazennegar's quads and hams, great for the 70s.
maybe it was the flex top 40 legs of the 70's that dorian was on? LMAO
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LOL they had dorian on the 40 greatest legs list? hahahahhaha
::)
man, the blowjobs dorian gave uncle joe are still benefiting him to this day..
worst 40 legs ever: aka Arnold Legs hahahaha
Oh you don't like Flex magazine's polls anymore now that they contradict your bullshit lol hypocrite ;)
legs you know , calves . hamstrings and quads Ronnie made the list but what's funny is they prefaced by saying some were chosen for for quads only ( Ronnie ) or calves only ( Mattarazzo ) but notice they said on Dorian from top to bottom ;) thick from all angles
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maybe it was the flex top 40 legs of the 70's that dorian was on? LMAO
;)
70s huh?
owned
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there goes ND with the yates morphed pic again.. ::)
I have to say, yates does look good with Platz's quad sweep and Shawn's tiny waistline.
too bad he never had that in real life.. :-X
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there goes ND with the yates morphed pic again.. ::)
I have to say, yates does look good with Platz's quad sweep and Shawn's tiny waistline.
too bad he never had that in real life.. :-X
meltdown ;)
Kevin Horoton GetBig Dec 30th
The photo is technically terrible, fortunately the physique is awesome.
I'd agree with Kris about Dorian showing up on stage how he looked a few weeks out. There are some shots of him at around 280 - 285 shredded. That conditioning has not been surpassed.
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actually the entire roster of pros destroyed ronnie for years on end.
but thats because he wasn't ronnie yet.
thanks for playing though.. ::)
More like, Ronnie had yet to meet Teh Chad.
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More like, Ronnie had yet to meet Teh Chad.
that too.
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that too.
Ronnie was Ronnie when Dorian kicked his ass and the best was Dorian wasn't even at his best
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he didn't look like that onstage that year.
classic case of looking better pre contest than in contest.
just like dorian did throughout his whole career...
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he didn't look like that onstage that year.
classic case of looking better pre contest than in contest.
just like dorian did throughout his whole career...
Ha ha ha ha it doesn't matter that's Ronnie when Dorian crushed him period. I remember you guys posting pics from that as proof positive that Ronnie was better than Dorian , you stopped posting them when you learned it was from when Yates beat him lol he looked amazing regardless
Dorian looks amazing on and off stage
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he doesn't look amazing in the vid posted at the top of this thread.
great back.
70's level arms and legs.
that is not what you call amazing.
at least sane non-delusional people anyway..
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At 96 mr. olympia dorian looked overdieted and ill..
Ironically, he still weighed the same as he did when he won the '93 Mr. Olympia and was a full 15 pounds heavier than his 1992 victory, YET, he looked to be just as you described him. I wonder why? He only weighed 3-4 pounds heavier in 1995, yet looks SO much more deprived in 1996?
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he doesn't look amazing in the vid posted at the top of this thread.
great back.
70's level arms and legs.
that is not what you call amazing.
at least sane non-delusional people anyway..
You're so full of shit kid . He looks amazing and any unbiased person can freely admit it everytime new footage is posted you try and downplay it . his legs are among the best in bodybuilding according to Flex magazine but I'm sure being the hypocrite you are now say they don't know what they're talking about lol
Ronnie has 1940s calves no waits Reeves had better calves than him lol
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LOL they had dorian on the 40 greatest legs list? hahahahhaha
::)
man, the blowjobs dorian gave uncle joe are still benefiting him to this day..
worst 40 legs ever: aka Arnold Legs hahahaha
Calves ARE part of the legs, just like triceps ARE part of arms and Dorian and BOTH and then some...
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Ha ha ha ha NO contest
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SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!
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Calves ARE part of the legs, just like triceps ARE part of arms and Dorian and BOTH and then some...
he knows he does he just has to try and downplay Dorian at every turn because he knows deep down inside Ronnie was never good enough. that's like saying because Ronnie's calves sucked his LEGS suck ::) it's retard logic , no wonder why Kevin Horton called him one.
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Ha ha ha ha NO contest
lol look how paper thin dorian's back is compared to Ronnie! and as always, ronnie's arms, yes arms, send dorian's back to the 1960s LOL
is the same old story - dorian wins from the knees down and loses from the knees up..
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lol look how paper thin dorian's back is compared to Ronnie! and as always, ronnie's arms, yes arms, send dorian's back to the 1960s LOL
is the same old story - dorian wins from the knees down and loses from the knees up..
lets see his back is paper thin , he has shit arms , shit legs , lol it's amazing he ever won any contests
yet for years and years he managed to beat Ronnie and his big arms lol thanks for playing
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8 pages ??? Haven't you schmoes busted your wads yet? ::)
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8 pages ??? Haven't you schmoes busted your wads yet? ::)
Oh you like to watch? lol who are you Joe Weider ?
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lets see his back is paper thin , he has shit arms , shit legs , lol it's amazing he ever won any contests
well, its amazing he won any post tear contests according to most.. :-X
only Weider mags/judges think so..but they of course have an agenda..they have to praise their giver of blowjobs champ..
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SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!
they should only be allowed to post on the truce thread. they ruin EVERY bodybuilding thread with this shit.
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well, its amazing he won any post tear contests according to most.. :-X
only Weider mags/judges think so..but they of course have an agenda..they have to praise their giver of blowjobs champ..
Oh and Ronnie earned all of his wins lol great logic as usual
bottom line Dorian beat Ronnie 9 times , Ronnie beat Dorian 0 times lol case closed. ;)
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8 pages ??? Haven't you schmoes busted your wads yet? ::)
8 pages does not include the Truce thread, which is gigantic now. Nor does that take into consideration all the other threads one of them have managed to hijack over the years, because Hulkster cannot leave the issue alone (last I check ND hadn't posted in the Truce thread in a LONG time....).
...I'm not taking sides, just an observation.
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8 pages does not include the Truce thread, which is gigantic now. Nor does that take into consideration all the other threads one of them have managed to hijack over the years, because Hulkster cannot leave the issue alone (last I check ND hadn't posted in the Truce thread in a LONG time....).
...I'm not taking sides, just an observation.
It's NEVER ND who instigates it. He doesn't dump a shitload of Doz pics in Ronnie threads not connected to this debate. He doesn't post on the truce thread. Hulkster stalks him over the board and constantly tries to start the argument again. ND's mistake is to respond but he doesn't initiate and he also posts about other stuff - bodybuilding related and other stuff. Hulkser ONLY posts about Ronnie Coleman, that is the beginning and end of his whole existence: Ronnie in a thong.
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SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!
Don't get worked up - I fully expect this situation to get resolved very soon, courtesy of our own Gene
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=263064.msg3905388#msg3905388
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SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!
i agree
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Ironically, he still weighed the same as he did when he won the '93 Mr. Olympia and was a full 15 pounds heavier than his 1992 victory, YET, he looked to be just as you described him. I wonder why? He only weighed 3-4 pounds heavier in 1995, yet looks SO much more deprived in 1996?
some say that this was because he get rid of the water the old way since the contest was diuretics tested..
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8 pages does not include the Truce thread, which is gigantic now. Nor does that take into consideration all the other threads one of them have managed to hijack over the years, because Hulkster cannot leave the issue alone (last I check ND hadn't posted in the Truce thread in a LONG time....).
...I'm not taking sides, just an observation.
Great post !
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It's NEVER ND who instigates it. He doesn't dump a shitload of Doz pics in Ronnie threads not connected to this debate. He doesn't post on the truce thread. Hulkster stalks him over the board and constantly tries to start the argument again. ND's mistake is to respond but he doesn't initiate and he also posts about other stuff - bodybuilding related and other stuff. Hulkser ONLY posts about Ronnie Coleman, that is the beginning and end of his whole existence: Ronnie in a thong.
Thank you ! someone who gets it .
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This thread sucks. Hey, Huckster, if I say that Ronnie is better, do you promisse to shut the fuck up once and for all? Sure, I'll have my fingers crossed as I say it, but no one needs to know.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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last I check ND hadn't posted in the Truce thread in a LONG time....)
He doesn't post on the truce thread
of course not. why would he post in a thread that he was badly humiliated in? he lost the debate.
he ran away like a sad little coward lol
that why he doesn't post..
but we all know he reads it all the time..
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Don't get worked up - I fully expect this situation to get resolved very soon, courtesy of our own Gene
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=263064.msg3905388#msg3905388
Sorry man, I broke one of your ten commandments with the big fonts and all ;D
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Ronnie was Ronnie when Dorian kicked his ass and the best was Dorian wasn't even at his best
Do you believe Ronnie in 9th place was at his best? I think Teh Chad might disagree with you.
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of course not. why would he post in a thread that he was badly humiliated in? he lost the debate.
he ran away like a sad little coward lol
that why he doesn't post..
but we all know he reads it all the time..
Ha ha ha it that were the least bit true YOUR dumbass wouldn't follow me into every thread trying to recreated the Truce Thread , same with your troll friends . YOU follow me because I beat you in the truce thread by post multiple quotes from Ronnie Coleman himself saying he would never beat Dorian . the best part is I beat you by using your own hero.
cased closed. ;)
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Do you believe Ronnie in 9th place was at his best? I think Teh Chad might disagree with you.
the nuthuggers know no bounds of stupidity.
fuck, this thread is a great example- the nuthuggers orgasm over dorian being so 'complete' with arms and quads straight out of the 1970's ::): that isn't completeness in any stretch..
even Dickerson has quads that crush dorian's: lol
his arms are probably better too 8)
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;)
70s huh?
owned
Manipulated pic. Show em looking that good onstage?
P.S. If you're believing what Flex writes now then you must agree Ronnie has the best back of all time :)
With legs and Dorian vs Ronnie, it's always gonna be which is more important, quads/hams vs calves, I opt for the former but it's a subjective thing so no wrong answers I guess. I think Dorian looks great in that video, and Ronnie is a bloated bastard half the time, but I still feel 2003 Ron would be too much for Dorian '03 to stand next to.
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Manipulated pic. Show em looking that good onstage?
P.S. If you're believing what Flex writes now then you must agree Ronnie has the best back of all time :)
With legs and Dorian vs Ronnie, it's always gonna be which is more important, quads/hams vs calves, I opt for the former but it's a subjective thing so no wrong answers I guess. I think Dorian looks great in that video, and Ronnie is a bloated bastard half the time, but I still feel 2003 Ron would be too much for Dorian '03 to stand next to.
Pic is UNTOUCHED per the photographer if you have proof to the contrary feel free to show us ;)
I don't have to believe everything Flex writes especially not on a subjective topic sorry , and there are polls that Dorian has a better back what makes Flex right and others wrong? old adage applies , ask 10 people who has a better back and you'll get 10 different answers
At least you admit it's subjective however contests aren't judged on your preference , with legs you have to factor in proportion and balance , among development , etc , etc , etc the total package Ronnie may have better quads but as a whole his lower balance is horrible his calves lack almost any development ontop of being high and poorly shaped
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I think Dorian beats Ronnie at their bests, better conditioning and balance only giving up biceps to Ronnie.
For some reason though I dont think Dorian looks that great here, legs look very long and slender, chest is shallow and he doesnt seem to pop in the poses from the front. the back is top draw though as usual but the thighs seems to hurt the balance here too.
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Manipulated pic. Show em looking that good onstage?
of course it is. anyone can see that..
Pic is UNTOUCHED per the photographer if you have proof to the contrary feel free to show us
already been done by other getbiggers..sorry:
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of course it is. anyone can see that..
already been done by other getbiggers..sorry:
ha ha ha ha two separate years dummy , 1995-1994 ;) you wanna call Kevin Horton a liar again?
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ha ha ha ha two separate years dummy , 1995-1994 ;)
sure it is.. ::) even his fucking curls match exactly..one year later.. ::)
you wanna call Kevin Horton a liar again?
nope. never have. you keep saying I have. but I havent >:(
there is a difference between simply being mistaken (as other getbiggers pointed out in the discussion on this pic - kevin wasnt exactly certain of the date - he said he THOUGHT it was from 95) and purposely lying (ie being deceitful)
learn it >:(.
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sure it is.. ::)
nope. never have. you keep saying I have. but I havent >:(
there is a difference between simply being mistaken and purposely lying (ie being deceitful)
learn it >:(.
Kevin Horton said the front latspread is from 1995 , I proved the front double biceps is from 1994 , if you claim otherwise you're calling Kevin Horton a LIAR
See above , he's not mistaken he told YOU specifically after you cried ' morphed ' it was scanned from the original and the only thing he added was lighting .
owned yet again ;)
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Manipulated pic. Show em looking that good onstage?
are you reading this ND?
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are you reading this ND?
The pic is untouched , again stop claiming Horton is a liar ;)
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Kevin Horton said the front latspread is from 1995 , I proved the front double biceps is from 1994 , if you claim otherwise you're calling Kevin Horton a LIAR
nope. if you compare the two shots, its quite clear that they were from the same shoot. not one year apart.
Kevin was simply mistaken -as many others have pointed out..
no one is calling him a liar. not me or anyone.
sorry you still think this. but your as stupid as they come so...
things go in one ear and out the other with you.. :-\
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The pic is untouched , again stop claiming Horton is a liar ;)
is english not your first language?
you seem to have noticable trouble understanding it.. :-\
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nope. if you compare the two shots, its quite clear that they were from the same shoot. not one year apart.
Kevin was simply mistaken -as many others have pointed out..
no one is calling him a liar. not me or anyone.
sorry you still think this. but your as stupid as they come so...
things go in one ear and out the other with you.. :-\
ha ha ha ha ha Kevin's wrong meltdown
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is english not your first language?
you seem to have noticable trouble understanding it.. :-\
Hulkster , it's you with the apparent comprehension problem , you're claiming a pic is from a year it's not and it's morphed , Kevin Horton addressed this and corrected you , if you continue to claim otherwise you're calling him a liar period.
He went so far as to say if YOU posted it , it might be worked lol
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is english not your first language?
you seem to have noticable trouble understanding it.. :-\
You are just getting less and less respectable.
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lol
its not my fault ND cant understand english.
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lololoz..... I knew there couldn't be a "Dorian" thread without the typical Dorian/Ronnie bs. You guys are obsessed.
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lol
its not my fault ND cant understand english.
But it is your fault that you keep trying to make him understand. Whether or not he is right or wrong, you show that you are the person with the lower IQ if you keep trying to jump into the ocean and not get wet.
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But it is your fault that you keep trying to make him understand
your right. no one can make ND understand.
he has serious reading comprehension and logical thought problems.. :-\
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Forearms still out of proportion with upper arms.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=275512.0;attach=316266;image)
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Dorian in that vid might be high 250s because he's very lean still , the advantages Dorian has is size , balance & proportion , density & conditioning (
LMAO
::)
its like comparing a 90's shot to a 70's shot: :'(
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your right. no one can make ND understand.
he has serious reading comprehension and logical thought problems.. :-\
Ha ha ha ha coming from the guy who says Kevin is wrong
notice I never once claimed you were smart ;)
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LMAO
::)
its like comparing a 90's shot to a 70's shot: :'(
You have no comprehension about scale or distance , side by side in reality Dorian would get dwarfed from 01
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lololoz..... I knew there couldn't be a "Dorian" thread without the typical Dorian/Ronnie bs. You guys are obsessed.
Actually it was a Dorian thread until the Ronnie-Trolls appeared
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side by side in reality Dorian would get dwarfed from 01
yes, dorian would get dwarfed. esp in the arms and legs.
his waist would dwarf ronnie's though - dorian's was huge and wide. ronnie's was tiny..
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yes, dorian would get dwarfed. esp in the arms and legs.
his waist would dwarf ronnie's though - dorian's was huge and wide. ronnie's was tiny..
Dorian at 247 pounds ain't dwarfing Yates at his best not even in the arms and legs , 283 pounds tramples 247 kid ;)
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your right. no one can make ND understand.
he has serious reading comprehension and logical thought problems.. :-\
But you just keep goading him and attempting to make him understand?! Just like your posts following the above quote.
Holy Jeebus!!!!
Now the fight card reads:
ND-Dorian lover, passionate man when it comes to discourse of Dorian.
Hulkster- went full retard, ain't ever coming back.
YB- acts like Dr. Phil trying to help either side settle their issues.
:-\
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But you just keep goading him and attempting to make him understand?! Just like your posts following the above quote.
Holy Jeebus!!!!
Now the fight card reads:
ND-Dorian lover, passionate man when it comes to discourse of Dorian.
Hulkster- went full retard, ain't ever coming back.
YB- acts like Dr. Phil trying to help either side settle their issues.
:-\
I can leave the topic alone , hence why I offered a truce ...he can't because he knows he's defeated his own hero agrees that he couldn't beat Dorian that's why he can't let it go , I beat him.
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No one has ever had this complete of a physique. Best ever. Be sure to watch in HD. Clearly the best back ever too.
hi dorian
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283 manipulated and morphed pounds tramples legit 247 kid
hmm..agreed.. 8)
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But you just keep goading him and attempting to make him understand?
trying to help the intellectually challenged is a nice thing to do..
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hmm..agreed.. 8)
The irony of you saying ANY pic is manipulated ;) Kevin Horton owns you
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Ronnie taking a back seat to Dorian as usual ;D
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Ronnie taking a back seat to Dorian as usual ;D
Waaaay at the back.
(http://www.laijs.com/photo/data/media/3/yates44.jpg)
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Both great pictures IMO, these are new? Really interesting how history keeps rewriting itself on here. Seems like we're all out of new Levrone pics now but the ones of Dorian keep popping up.
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if you're going to post the large version of that 95 Dorian pic, at least use the better quality version.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates102.jpg)
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:-X
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=276836.0;attach=316093;image)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates102.jpg)
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ugh, really?
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/SmallArms3.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04RonnieColemanArms1.jpg)
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^
hahahahaha
oh boy.
countdown to the excuses!!
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How come Dorian never had the sepration between the delts, bi's and tri's that Ronnie did?
Or the vascularity for that matter?
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How come Dorian never had the sepration between the delts, bi's and tri's that Ronnie did?
Or the vascularity for that matter?
or size ;)
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How come Dorian never had the sepration between the delts, bi's and tri's that Ronnie did?
Or the vascularity for that matter?
because he was not even close to be as good as a 98/99 or 2001 AC Ronnie Coleman..