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Title: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 02, 2009, 03:44:21 PM
Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy

Dating in the financial markets is no task for the faint of heart. It takes a City Girl of steel to navigate the curve balls of investment bankers and their like. Indeed, decades after the feminist movement promised an idyllic world of fairness, itís become increasingly apparent that when it comes to a financial markets romance, old habits die hard.

The tricky dating minefield that exists between City Boys and Girls can be partially explained by observing Madonna. Some straight men hate Madonna because she has 'balls', and some women also hate her because she exhibits the power many women are denied, personally or professionally.

Just like Madonna, the 'City Girl' is a postmodern myth. She does what she wants when she wants, not out of some kind of rogue selfishness, but in the same unapologetic way men have been doing it from the beginning of time. In the male-dominated City, City Girls have their cake and eat it too. We get domestic help to do chores for us, and men to hold doors open for us.

Like most City Girls, Madonna is a totally self-made woman who proves that power is accessible to all. But the established City Boys are not about to relinquish that power without a fight.

The relationship between a female body and lack of power is, of course, part of the reason why women have been forced to act as men to achieve success. Gender is at odds with the masculine nature of the occupation we perform. 

The problem with City Girls dating City Boys in any age bracket is that you want the same things professionally (money, power, recognition) but not personally (they want a lot of sex from different people, you want a lot of commitment from just one). City Boys prefer women who seem malleable and awed. We prefer men who seem confident and debonair. City Boys want young models with perfect legs. We want older men with perfect credit records. And the biggest secret fear of single City Girls is that their powerful positions are a turn-off for men, while the male power is an aphrodisiac for women.

Having thoroughly analyzed the nexus between City Boys and City Girls, I can unscientifically conclude that there is an imperfect correlation between the sexes' agendas.

Most City Girls want someone who is attractive, talented, financially stable and generous - in other words, someone who is exactly like them. On the other hand, what do City Boys want? Typically, just someone who has a nice body! 

At the end of the day, let's face it: men are lazy. The bottom line is that they don't want it all, and women do.

It's something to think about the next time you find yourself choosing between determining Beta or domestic bliss.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Original Sin on June 02, 2009, 07:13:38 PM
I wouldn't call men lazy, simple yes, but not lazy.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 02, 2009, 07:16:37 PM
men aren't lazy, but to add to what OS said, we just don't complicate crap like women do.  The guys I know are hard workers.  Women are often the one wanting to be treated like princess and pampered all the time.  Guys want food, shelter, companionship and on occassion some freaking peace.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Original Sin on June 02, 2009, 07:18:48 PM
Pfft  ::)

Guys want sports, beer and breasts!

There may actually be some thoughts beyond breasts but no man alive has been able to think past them.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 02, 2009, 07:25:14 PM
Pfft  ::)

Guys want sports, beer and breasts!


exactly what i said.

sports, seen in a bar or home = shelter

Beer, made from water hops, grain = food

Breasts = Companionship


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Original Sin on June 02, 2009, 07:32:18 PM
exactly what i said.

sports, seen in a bar or home = shelter

Beer, made from water hops, grain = food

Breasts = Companionship

I think not....

sports, seen in a bar or home = shelter Testosterone pissing contest for guys who can't

Beer, made from water hops, grain = food  CHEAP drunk to bond with other guys who can't

Breasts = Companionship Hookers, Strippers, One night stands bring no companionship.  It is only SEX





Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 02, 2009, 07:33:48 PM
again women complicate things.  Men just do. 


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Original Sin on June 02, 2009, 07:37:59 PM
again women complicate things.  Men just do. 

Because women can and men can't

It is an IQ thing.  Now you may feel the need to respond but I have attached a shiny picture to my post and all men will lose their train of thoughts



Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 02, 2009, 07:41:26 PM
Because women can and men can't

It is an IQ thing.  Now you may feel the need to respond but I have attached a shiny picture to my post and all men will lose their train of thoughts



no way!  we can complicate stuff just fine.  Have you ever seen us assemble things?  lol.

by the way, that pic wasn't very appealing...

and that's coming from a guy with a dry streak to rival the sahara.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 02, 2009, 08:05:06 PM
no way!  we can complicate stuff just fine.  Have you ever seen us assemble things?  lol.

by the way, that pic wasn't very appealing...

and that's coming from a guy with a dry streak to rival the sahara.

...one who can neither for the life of him figure out why, ...nor take the steps to rectify the situation.  ::)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 03, 2009, 07:19:31 AM
i can figure out why, just not ready to get into a relationship at the moment.  The fact that I can't really be open to someone right now would not be fair to me or to her.  Beleive it or not I don't want to hop in and out of peoples beds.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: SamoanIrishman on June 03, 2009, 07:42:38 AM
i can figure out why, just not ready to get into a relationship at the moment.  The fact that I can't really be open to someone right now would not be fair to me or to her.  Beleive it or not I don't want to hop in and out of peoples beds.


Way to be a lazy, dumb, boob distracted manwhore we are painted to be in the above post. ::)  The fact is this is a generalization. While most can / will fit into the catagory, there are those that do not.

I have two jobs, single dad, don't watch sports..I rather play them and I'm not a raging alcoholic. I much rather be in a committed relationship than not and I won't sleep with a woman I'm not in a relationship with.



Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 03, 2009, 07:45:32 AM
I have worked all my life.  Sometimes 2-3 jobs at a time.  I have gone to school etc.  Sure there are some deadbeata out there.  But the same can be said for women. 


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Original Sin on June 03, 2009, 11:08:33 AM
Men Are Just Happier People

What do you expect from such simple creatures? Your last name stays put. The garage is all yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another snack. You can be President. You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth. The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another gas station restroom because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add character. Wedding dress $5000. Tux rental-$100. People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them. New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.

Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks. A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness. If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original color. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades. You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes -- one color for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look. You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice concerning growing a mustache.

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Butterbean on June 03, 2009, 11:20:54 AM
You never have to drive to another gas station restroom because this one is just too icky.

 ;D


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: SamoanIrishman on June 03, 2009, 12:15:07 PM
Men Are Just Happier People

1. Chocolate is just another snack
2. Car mechanics tell you the truth
3. Wedding dress $5000. Tux rental-$100.
4. People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.
5. New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle your feet.
6. One mood all the time....
7. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.
8. If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.
9. Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack.
10. Three pairs of shoes are more than enough.
11. You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes.
12. Everything on your face stays its original color.
13. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.
14.You only have to shave your face and neck.
15. You can play with toys all your life.
16. One wallet and one pair of shoes -- one color for all seasons
 
1. Not really..it is the ultimate seduction (next to women) for some. Mix the two and there will be some serious cardio going on ;D

2. you'd be suprised how many dudes can't change oil, tire or plugs. I watched a guy watch his girl change a tire on the shoulder of the highway the other day!

3. It's cause we don't care about details. Marrying the girl of my dreams hasn't got shit to do with clothes. I'd do it in a grass skirt if she wanted me to.
 
4. Now that depends the guys chest and the women. I catch women looking at my chest when they talk to me...especially if I have a t-shirt on. 8)
5. Please, I DREAD buying new business shoes. With silk socks, the first 2-3 weeks are hell.

6. No again. I think guys are more prone to supress / share their moods..the reasons why are the interesting questions.

7. LOL..you should meet my ex. I bought her a new car and all I got was "Didn't they have it in red?".

8. Not really.

9. Got us there ;D

10. Not true...4 is the number. Business, casual, gym, some form of open toe (flip flops maybe?)

11. Not all of us live like high school kids and pick our clothes of the day off the floor.

12. Female faces turn colors?...that's cool.

13. Again..got me here. :-*

14. Not all of us :-\

15. Isn't the women sex toy industry a billion dollar business? ;D
 
16. We're supposed to change the color of our wallets and shoes per season? What colors? Weird.

I think when it comes down to it mean are simple in a sense that we think on a larger scale..bigger picture and just plain don't give a shit about most details (which gets us in trouble sometimes) ..then again, I sometimes wonder how women don't have a stroke by 40 the way they worry and think about multiple things at the same time constantly...sometimes into all hours of the night. In all... the genders balance eachother out very well.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 03, 2009, 01:36:41 PM

I think when it comes down to it mean are simple in a sense that we think on a larger scale..bigger picture and just plain don't give a shit about most details (which gets us in trouble sometimes) ..then again, I sometimes wonder how women don't have a stroke by 40 the way they worry and think about multiple things at the same time constantly...sometimes into all hours of the night. In all the genders balance eachother out very well.

truth!


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 03, 2009, 01:37:56 PM
Men Are Just Happier People

You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt.


righty tighty, lefty loosey


 ;D


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: ToxicAvenger on June 03, 2009, 01:48:01 PM
i'm lazy...and proud of it...

and smart nuff to pull it off...so why not  ;D


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: ToxicAvenger on June 03, 2009, 01:50:45 PM


2. you'd be suprised how many dudes can't change oil, tire or plugs. I watched a guy watch his girl change a tire on the shoulder of the highway the other day!


dats me!  ;D

one thing i dont understand about women is....they'll buy a $1000 purse (or make me buy it >:( ) so they can carry their $50 in it  :-\


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 03, 2009, 02:19:32 PM
i get made i have to buy wallets on occasion.  they are too expensive.  $20+

When my mom goes to spain, i'll ask her to bring me one back. 


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: SamoanIrishman on June 03, 2009, 02:48:33 PM
Btw..horrid chick pic! I rather watch Miggs avatar :o

I never really noticed till just now, I kind of smile when I look at them move like that. It's an involuntary genetic response I'm sure ;D


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: SamoanIrishman on June 03, 2009, 02:52:42 PM
Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy

Most City Girls want someone who is attractive, talented, financially stable and generous - in other words, someone who is exactly like them. On the other hand, what do City Boys want? Typically, just someone who has a nice body! 


Uh..have you checked out Craigslist lately?..W4M dating section. List of demands and expectations of perfection from "a little curvy" 242lbs woman.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 03, 2009, 03:14:20 PM
Btw..horrid chick pic! I rather watch Miggs avatar :o

I never really noticed till just now, I kind of smile when I look at them move like that. It's an involuntary genetic response I'm sure ;D

i do the same thing lol.  i was thinking about using cl, until they took out the erotic section.  kidding, but did see the w4m area and was like hell no.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Hustle Man on June 03, 2009, 03:48:35 PM
Men Are Just Happier People

Wow you got it, I am impressed!


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Parker on June 03, 2009, 05:51:07 PM
Because women can and men can't

It is an IQ thing.  Now you may feel the need to respond but I have attached a shiny picture to my post and all men will lose their train of thoughts



No, I kept scrolling down...now if that chica had the curves, I might have been struck for a second by "lil head distraction", but Nada.

Fact is women in terms of sex and dating CANNOT do the same thing that men do. Because either you will: fall in love, get pregnant, or catch a disease...

Women want to complicant things about the perfect man, but man (mean human) was made imperfect, so the quest for perfection is a imperfect goal. All I need is  reasonable attractive woman (a wivey sort), great sex, intelligent to know the difference between ego, the never ending quest for power and happiness. Period...Now how hard is that? It seems for American women who were told that they are princesses all their lives, that this concept is very hard...

And by the way, the whole princess deal is a lie. Back in days when Cindellera, Snow White and all those fables were created, the princesses were typically bartering tools...married off to nearby countries to quell disputes, or treaties. And many of the men were not handsome...take a look at any European royal family... handsome men nor pretty women genes tend to not run in their veins

"At the end of the day, let's face it: men are lazy. The bottom line is that they don't want it all, and women do"


And that's why we have problems now...you can't have it all.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 03, 2009, 06:05:10 PM


"At the end of the day, let's face it: men are lazy. The bottom line is that they don't want it all, and women do"


And that's why we have problems now...you can't have it all.

QFT


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Original Sin on June 03, 2009, 06:41:19 PM
QFT

Good for you!

I was beginning to believe you judge your worth on your relationships.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 03, 2009, 07:11:41 PM
Good for you!

I was beginning to believe you judge your worth on your relationships.


slowly coming around.  sorta lol


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 03, 2009, 11:03:44 PM
No, I kept scrolling down...now if that chica had the curves, I might have been struck for a second by "lil head distraction", but Nada.

Fact is women in terms of sex and dating CANNOT do the same thing that men do. Because either you will: fall in love, get pregnant, or catch a disease...

Women want to complicant things about the perfect man, but man (mean human) was made imperfect, so the quest for perfection is a imperfect goal. All I need is  reasonable attractive woman (a wivey sort), great sex, intelligent to know the difference between ego, the never ending quest for power and happiness. Period...Now how hard is that? It seems for American women who were told that they are princesses all their lives, that this concept is very hard...

And by the way, the whole princess deal is a lie. Back in days when Cindellera, Snow White and all those fables were created, the princesses were typically bartering tools...married off to nearby countries to quell disputes, or treaties. And many of the men were not handsome...take a look at any European royal family... handsome men nor pretty women genes tend to not run in their veins  

"At the end of the day, let's face it: men are lazy. The bottom line is that they don't want it all, and women do"


And that's why we have problems now...you can't have it all.

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/but.gif) ...they lived happily ever after... didn't they?  :-\

Prince Andrew is not so bad


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: drkaje on June 04, 2009, 12:50:01 PM
I wouldn't call men lazy, simple yes, but not lazy.

QFT!


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Parker on June 04, 2009, 02:37:01 PM
Maybe it's that men aren't lazy because we don't want it all, women are Greedy because they do? And as Barry White has said, ..."too much of a good thing..."


Men are simplistic in their wants and needs, overall. Women are not, and it varies from woman to woman...Now take a City Gal who is used to having and being told that everything in the cookie cupboard is her's...well that's a recipe for disaster when dating, especially when dating a City Guy...

I think the author of this article is subversely communicating her frustration of her lack of communicating her wants and needs in her own dating relationships...


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: drkaje on June 04, 2009, 03:05:57 PM
Maybe it's that men aren't lazy because we don't want it all, women are Greedy because they do? And as Barry White has said, ..."too much of a good thing..."


Men are simplistic in their wants and needs, overall. Women are not, and it varies from woman to woman...Now take a City Gal who is used to having and being told that everything in the cookie cupboard is her's...well that's a recipe for disaster when dating, especially when dating a City Guy...

I think the author of this article is subversely communicating her frustration of her lack of communicating her wants and needs in her own dating relationships...

She doesn't believe people are responsible for their own emotional needs.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Parker on June 04, 2009, 03:32:07 PM
She doesn't believe people are responsible for their own emotional needs.

Exactly, how I am suppose to know that you are unhappy? And why. If I do not make you happy, nor have I , then I guess I should be dropped?

Furthermore, if Miss "I gotta have it all", only deal with VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS Types, I bet she starts the date off like a business deal, and then wonder why no call backs?

When you ask someone on the first or second date about their 401K plan, how many miles they have on their BMW 530i, and the zip code in which they live in, chances are that person will be an unhappy person, man or woman... 


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 04, 2009, 07:03:56 PM
My boyfriend is lazy to take out the trash.

must resist temptation for smart aleck remark....


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: powerpack on June 05, 2009, 06:14:43 AM
We da best  8)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: SamoanIrishman on June 05, 2009, 07:34:51 AM
must resist temptation for smart aleck remark....

this is GB...do it...do it...DOOOO IIIITTTTTT


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 05, 2009, 07:39:48 AM
Exactly, how I am suppose to know that you are unhappy? And why. If I do not make you happy, nor have I , then I guess I should be dropped?

Furthermore, if Miss "I gotta have it all", only deal with VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS Types, I bet she starts the date off like a business deal, and then wonder why no call backs?

When you ask someone on the first or second date about their 401K plan, how many miles they have on their BMW 530i, and the zip code in which they live in, chances are that person will be an unhappy person, man or woman... 

I don't think anyone is saying that they want a man to make them happy.
I think the argument is more that they are not happy with the man. There's a big difference.  ;)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: tonymctones on June 05, 2009, 07:54:37 AM
I don't think anyone is saying that they want a man to make them happy.
I think the argument is more that they are not happy with the man. There's a big difference.  ;)
theres a big difference between not being happy with a single man and not being happy with men in general jag...this women obviously isnt happy with men in general or city boys as she puts it...she openly admits that she wants her cake and wants to eat it too...sorry missy aint nobody man or women hot enough to walk around with that arrogant attitude. We are equals men and women and this women obviously feels that women are superior to men. The last line is what really gets me, something about how women want it all and men dont...this lady is to ignorant to see that perhaps to men that having it "all" maybe just different then having it "all" for women...

I have no idea where i get the idea that you dont really like men jag ???


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 05, 2009, 08:04:14 AM
theres a big difference between not being happy with a single man and not being happy with men in general jag...this women obviously isnt happy with men in general or city boys as she puts it...she openly admits that she wants her cake and wants to eat it too...sorry missy aint nobody man or women hot enough to walk around with that arrogant attitude. We are equals men and women and this women obviously feels that women are superior to men. The last line is what really gets me, something about how women want it all and men dont...this lady is to ignorant to see that perhaps to men that having it "all" maybe just different then having it "all" for women...

I have no idea where i get the idea that you dont really like men jag ???

I don't know where you get that idea either.  :)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 05, 2009, 08:08:39 AM
I think the jest of her argument is that women want men who are their equals, whereas men prefer subordinates.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 05, 2009, 08:09:52 AM
this is GB...do it...do it...DOOOO IIIITTTTTT


My boyfriend is lazy to take out the trash.

why take out the trash when he has to come right back in and live with it?  

Or

why throw away the trash only to sleep with some later?

Or

You should be glad, where would you live?


seriously just joking :),  It is a dangerous thing to leave an open post like that lol.  Welcome to GB!  It is much safer on the girls board.





Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: tonymctones on June 05, 2009, 08:11:22 AM
I don't know where you get that idea either.  :)
LOL well it seems that you hold alot of the same opinions that run along the lines of this women jag...Like i said theres a big difference between not being happy with A man and not being happy with MEN.

If for some reason you cant seem to find happiness with any man, perhaps the problem isnt with MEN...this gets to the point of my last pm WHICH YOU DIDNT ANSWER  >:(


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: tonymctones on June 05, 2009, 08:12:40 AM
why take out the trash when he has to come right back in and live with it?  

Or

why throw away the trash only to sleep with some later?

Or

You should be glad, where would you live?




LOL hahahahah the last one was a tad harsh but damn it was funy


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 05, 2009, 08:13:43 AM
LOL well it seems that you hold alot of the same opinions that run along the lines of this women jag...Like i said theres a big difference between not being happy with A man and not being happy with MEN.

If for some reason you cant seem to find happiness with any man, perhaps the problem isnt with MEN...this gets to the point of my last pm WHICH YOU DIDNT ANSWER  >:(


Are you hinting that maybe she is the common denominator..


just trying to stir the pot until the popcorn is ready.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: tonymctones on June 05, 2009, 08:14:57 AM
I think the jest of her argument is that women want men who are their equals, whereas men prefer subordinates.
women want men who are their equals yet treat them like they are princesses...i.e. the we get our cake and eat it too comment...she doesnt think men and women are equals jag she thinks women are superior to men...


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: tonymctones on June 05, 2009, 08:16:51 AM

Are you hinting that maybe she is the common denominator..


just trying to stir the pot until the popcorn is ready.
LOL merely giving ppl something to think about...


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 05, 2009, 08:19:00 AM
LOL merely giving ppl something to think about...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Dtfi3VkiU


 ;D


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 05, 2009, 08:19:14 AM
LOL well it seems that you hold alot of the same opinions that run along the lines of this women jag...Like i said theres a big difference between not being happy with A man and not being happy with MEN.

I think the author is not happy with her assessment of the situation vis-a-vis the men in her world.

Quote
If for some reason you cant seem to find happiness with any man, perhaps the problem isnt with MEN...this gets to the point of my last pm WHICH YOU DIDNT ANSWER  >:(

Who says I can't seem to find happiness with men?

I tried to be polite by giving you a flippant answer to your pm, ...but I see subtlety doesn't work with you.
No I didn't answer your question because I thought it was none of your damned business. You're so uncouth. ::)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 05, 2009, 08:20:52 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Dtfi3VkiU


 ;D

Embedding Disabled by request

FAIL!


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 05, 2009, 08:21:41 AM
munch munch munch

here you go jaggy poo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Dtfi3VkiU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Dtfi3VkiU)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: tonymctones on June 05, 2009, 08:29:04 AM
I think the author is not happy with her assessment of the situation vis-a-vis the men in her world.

Again no jag if that where the case she would have qualified her statements which she didnt she generalized perhaps not necissarily intentionally but it is very telling about her and also telling about you my love  ;)

Who says I can't seem to find happiness with men?

I tried to be polite by giving you a flippant answer to your pm, ...but I see subtlety doesn't work with you.
No I didn't answer your question because I thought it was none of your damned business. You're so uncouth. ::)
I certainly never did he first part of that sentence when i referred to "you" was not a specific you...simply saying if the one common denominator in these situations is a single person the chances are the problem isnt with the ppl that come and go its with the one single person.

LOL you should know by now that it wasnt meant to be offensive even if i hadnt prefaced my statement with "no offense" which i did...simply curious as to how accurate my perception was and you have a tendacy to be more honest then most on here especially the politics board...Id apologize but that just wouldnt be our style now would it


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 05, 2009, 08:38:44 AM
Again no jag if that where the case she would have qualified her statements which she didnt she generalized perhaps not necissarily intentionally but it is very telling about her and also telling about you my love  ;)
I certainly never did he first part of that sentence when i referred to "you" was not a specific you...simply saying if the one common denominator in these situations is a single person the chances are the problem isnt with the ppl that come and go its with the one single person.

She most certainly did... go read the article again. She is specifically speaking of Wall Street Type A personalities

Quote
LOL you should know by now that it wasnt meant to be offensive even if i hadnt prefaced my statement with "no offense" which i did...simply curious as to how accurate my perception was and you have a tendacy to be more honest then most on here especially the politics board...Id apologize but that just wouldnt be our style now would it

Anytime someone prefaces their questions or comments with 'no offense', ...they know darned well they have the potential to cause offense. You did it not once, ...but twice within the same sentence. Clearly you knew what an uncouth little pig you were behaving like. My answer is still the same... none of your damned business.

And I am NOT your love.   >:(


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 05, 2009, 08:46:30 AM
this is great.


munch munch munch


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: tonymctones on June 05, 2009, 08:47:40 AM
She most certainly did... go read the article again. She is specifically speaking of Wall Street Type A personalities

Anytime someone prefaces their questions or comments with 'no offense', ...they know darned well they have the potential to cause offense. You did it not once, ...but twice within the same sentence. Clearly you knew what an uncouth little pig you were behaving like. My answer is still the same... none of your damned business.

And I am NOT your love.   >:(
LOL thats still a generaliztion jag and a big one at that...

Iono i dont really find that topic all that offensive although i know some do which is why i prefaced it...i accept your answer, i guess im just a little more liberal then you when it comes to that  :P


























my love...


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: tonymctones on June 05, 2009, 08:48:46 AM
this is great.


munch munch munch
LOL you should come on over to the politics board this is nothing....


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 05, 2009, 08:51:14 AM
i dable there on occasion.  But sometimes it's just too bitchy.  Although still entertaining.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 05, 2009, 09:03:32 AM
LOL thats still a generaliztion jag and a big one at that...

It might be, but it's a generalization she makes about her world.
I can't help but to think she might know the men in the Wall street dating market much better than you,
...but i might be wrong.

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Iono i dont really find that topic all that offensive although i know some do which is why i prefaced it...i accept your answer, i guess im just a little more liberal then you when it comes to that  :P

There's a big difference between being liberal and being rude, clueless, and classless.

Quote
my love...

asswipe  >:(


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 05, 2009, 09:05:29 AM
i'm gonna need more popcorn


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 05, 2009, 09:09:58 AM
i'm gonna need more popcorn

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/popcorn.jpg)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 05, 2009, 09:12:07 AM
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/popcorn.jpg)


awesome thanks!  Is it slightly buttered?


munch munch munch


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 05, 2009, 09:13:19 AM

awesome thanks!  Is it slightly buttered?


munch munch munch

Nah, ...it's vegan popcorn   :P


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: powerpack on June 05, 2009, 09:13:46 AM
We da best  8)
Agreed!  :)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: powerpack on June 05, 2009, 09:14:31 AM
Agreed!  :)
QFT  :)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: powerpack on June 05, 2009, 09:15:04 AM
QFT  :)
With out a doubt  ;)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 05, 2009, 09:15:59 AM
{LOL} At least you don't have a gimmick backing you up.  :D


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: powerpack on June 05, 2009, 09:18:05 AM

awesome thanks!  Is it slightly buttered?


munch munch munch
Sprinkle with icing sugar.
Pretty good
Genuine  ;)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: tonymctones on June 05, 2009, 09:21:22 AM
It might be, but it's a generalization she makes about her world.
I can't help but to think she might know the men in the Wall street dating market much better than you,
...but i might be wrong.

There's a big difference between being liberal and being rude, clueless, and classless.

asswipe  >:(
LOL im sure she probably knows all the men in the wall street dating seen...she starts with city boys and then generalizes to men in the end...where does she say anything about wall street type A personalities? i must be missing that part

LOL its obvious jag that this women isnt happy with men in general, a man hater if you will...

lol i was anything but rude, clueless and classless...I approached you in non offensive way and accepted your answer the topic may have been offensive to you but that doesnt mean i was rude, clueless or classless... ;)

Its ok if you dont love me...b/c i love you enough for the both of us  ;D


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 05, 2009, 09:23:27 AM
Nah, ...it's vegan popcorn   :P

why do you ruin a good thing? lol


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 05, 2009, 09:39:37 AM
why do you ruin a good thing? lol

{LOL} I knew how much you'd appreciate knowing that about the popcorn.  ;D


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 05, 2009, 09:41:59 AM
{LOL} I knew how much you'd appreciate knowing that about the popcorn.  ;D

sometimes it's best not to ask lol


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 05, 2009, 10:11:14 AM
sometimes it's best not to ask lol

 ;)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 05, 2009, 10:16:59 AM
;)

nothing some good ol' melted butter can't handle.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Cap on June 05, 2009, 12:04:21 PM
men aren't lazy, but to add to what OS said, we just don't complicate crap like women do.  The guys I know are hard workers.  Women are often the one wanting to be treated like princess and pampered all the time.  Guys want food, shelter, companionship and on occassion some freaking peace.
I would agree with this assessment.  It's not to say that men don't complicate things but I look at my female counterparts and wonder why they make things more complicated.  I am often confused by women and the things they say they want.  Men and women like the same basic things but they go about them in two very different ways, with men often choosing the simpler route. 

I personally like life to be simple.  Have a job, make some money, find a nice girl, etc. 


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 05, 2009, 07:10:14 PM
i'm 1 for 3.  used to have all 3. 


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: andreisdaman on June 06, 2009, 11:08:57 AM
Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy

Dating in the financial markets is no task for the faint of heart. It takes a City Girl of steel to navigate the curve balls of investment bankers and their like. Indeed, decades after the feminist movement promised an idyllic world of fairness, itís become increasingly apparent that when it comes to a financial markets romance, old habits die hard.

The tricky dating minefield that exists between City Boys and Girls can be partially explained by observing Madonna. Some straight men hate Madonna because she has 'balls', and some women also hate her because she exhibits the power many women are denied, personally or professionally.

Just like Madonna, the 'City Girl' is a postmodern myth. She does what she wants when she wants, not out of some kind of rogue selfishness, but in the same unapologetic way men have been doing it from the beginning of time. In the male-dominated City, City Girls have their cake and eat it too. We get domestic help to do chores for us, and men to hold doors open for us.

Like most City Girls, Madonna is a totally self-made woman who proves that power is accessible to all. But the established City Boys are not about to relinquish that power without a fight.

The relationship between a female body and lack of power is, of course, part of the reason why women have been forced to act as men to achieve success. Gender is at odds with the masculine nature of the occupation we perform. 

The problem with City Girls dating City Boys in any age bracket is that you want the same things professionally (money, power, recognition) but not personally (they want a lot of sex from different people, you want a lot of commitment from just one). City Boys prefer women who seem malleable and awed. We prefer men who seem confident and debonair. City Boys want young models with perfect legs. We want older men with perfect credit records. And the biggest secret fear of single City Girls is that their powerful positions are a turn-off for men, while the male power is an aphrodisiac for women.

Having thoroughly analyzed the nexus between City Boys and City Girls, I can unscientifically conclude that there is an imperfect correlation between the sexes' agendas.

Most City Girls want someone who is attractive, talented, financially stable and generous - in other words, someone who is exactly like them. On the other hand, what do City Boys want? Typically, just someone who has a nice body! 

At the end of the day, let's face it: men are lazy. The bottom line is that they don't want it all, and women do.

It's something to think about the next time you find yourself choosing between determining Beta or domestic bliss.




okay..and with all this power and control which women have gained, what has that gotten them exactly???...they are still unhappy in love for the most part....and men steer clear of any woman who comes across like a power -hungry controlling bitch.....so in reality, women are starting to become as unhappy as men are....WOW


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Parker on June 06, 2009, 01:12:23 PM
I don't think anyone is saying that they want a man to make them happy.
I think the argument is more that they are not happy with the man. There's a big difference.  ;)

A man or woman is is not suppose to make a person happy nor is suppose complete them, but to compliment them. One is suppose to be happy on their own.

methinks she is like soo many other women, who have  not recognized this easy "formula", yet try as they might, go against it. Sucks really, all that smarts, and she's not smart enough to realize that. 

I've seen women go thru men like borrowed clothes, only to be worse off than when they started, time and time again, not recognizing that their own happiness lies within them, and not within some sort of "Love Ledger".


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 06, 2009, 06:35:11 PM
A man or woman is is not suppose to make a person happy nor is suppose complete them, but to compliment them.


So Parker, what you're saying is that it's not that men are lazy, ...it's that they're just like... mustard?  :-\   ???   ;D


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 06, 2009, 06:40:57 PM
compliment not condiment


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Parker on June 06, 2009, 07:04:22 PM

So Parker, what you're saying is that it's not that men are lazy, ...it's that they're just like... mustard?  :-\   ???   ;D


No, I 'm saying, were's just the cooks, it's to you to choose the menu...and the sides.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Migs on June 06, 2009, 07:08:08 PM
No, I 'm saying, were's just the cooks, it's to you to choose the menu...and the sides.

have you ever seen them try to order at the restaurant...  ::)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Parker on June 06, 2009, 09:11:55 PM
have you ever seen them try to order at the restaurant...  ::)

Like I told one lady at McDonald's...you should already know what you want beforehand...this is freaking McDonalds


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 06, 2009, 10:37:44 PM
Like I told one lady at McDonald's...you should already know what you want beforehand...this is freaking McDonalds

I betcha she did know what she wanted beforehand, ...it was probably Spago!   :o
...or at least a place where one didn't necessarily order by #  :-\


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 06, 2009, 10:38:38 PM
compliment not condiment

Mustard can also be a compliment in addition to being a condiment.  :D


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 06, 2009, 10:58:12 PM
No, I 'm saying, were's just the cooks, it's to you to choose the menu...and the sides.

That's fine, ...but we want it prepared by him,       ...not by him

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Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: andreisdaman on June 07, 2009, 04:17:10 AM
Basicaly women are confused and have NO IDEA what they want


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 07, 2009, 05:23:49 AM
Basicaly women are confused and have NO IDEA what they want

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/snarl.gif)
Yes we do, ...one of the things we want is to slap all the non approved posters!  :P


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: tonymctones on June 07, 2009, 05:41:49 AM
Basicaly women are confused and have NO IDEA what they want
you left out a crucial part, then they blame men for not being what they want...


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: drkaje on June 07, 2009, 06:08:57 AM
Basicaly women are confused and have NO IDEA what they want

True in most cases but life would be pretty boring without them. :)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: powerpack on June 07, 2009, 06:11:07 AM
Basicaly women are confused and have NO IDEA what they want
I gotta agree with this one


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: andreisdaman on June 07, 2009, 08:12:27 AM
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/snarl.gif)
Yes we do, ...one of the things we want is to slap all the non approved posters!  :P


???..non approved posters?...I actually need your permission to post here????


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Parker on June 07, 2009, 12:58:56 PM
you left out a crucial part, then they blame men for not being what they want...

QFT, and it's my fault for not being it!!!


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 07, 2009, 04:46:48 PM
QFT, and it's my fault for not being it!!!

Of course it's always a man's fault. Whose else would it be? Silly man.  ;)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 07, 2009, 04:48:22 PM

???..non approved posters?...I actually need your permission to post here????

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=93039.0


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Original Sin on June 07, 2009, 06:22:17 PM
Anybody else hear a loud whipping sound?  ;D


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Parker on June 07, 2009, 07:16:07 PM
Anybody else hear a loud whipping sound?  ;D

For punishment or pleasure? Or both?


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 07, 2009, 07:53:47 PM
For punishment or pleasure? Or both?

One man's hell is another woman's paradise.  ;)   :P


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: andreisdaman on June 08, 2009, 01:11:27 PM
Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy

Dating in the financial markets is no task for the faint of heart. It takes a City Girl of steel to navigate the curve balls of investment bankers and their like. Indeed, decades after the feminist movement promised an idyllic world of fairness, itís become increasingly apparent that when it comes to a financial markets romance, old habits die hard.

The tricky dating minefield that exists between City Boys and Girls can be partially explained by observing Madonna. Some straight men hate Madonna because she has 'balls', and some women also hate her because she exhibits the power many women are denied, personally or professionally.

Just like Madonna, the 'City Girl' is a postmodern myth. She does what she wants when she wants, not out of some kind of rogue selfishness, but in the same unapologetic way men have been doing it from the beginning of time. In the male-dominated City, City Girls have their cake and eat it too. We get domestic help to do chores for us, and men to hold doors open for us.

Like most City Girls, Madonna is a totally self-made woman who proves that power is accessible to all. But the established City Boys are not about to relinquish that power without a fight.

The relationship between a female body and lack of power is, of course, part of the reason why women have been forced to act as men to achieve success. Gender is at odds with the masculine nature of the occupation we perform. 

The problem with City Girls dating City Boys in any age bracket is that you want the same things professionally (money, power, recognition) but not personally (they want a lot of sex from different people, you want a lot of commitment from just one). City Boys prefer women who seem malleable and awed. We prefer men who seem confident and debonair. City Boys want young models with perfect legs. We want older men with perfect credit records. And the biggest secret fear of single City Girls is that their powerful positions are a turn-off for men, while the male power is an aphrodisiac for women.

Having thoroughly analyzed the nexus between City Boys and City Girls, I can unscientifically conclude that there is an imperfect correlation between the sexes' agendas.

Most City Girls want someone who is attractive, talented, financially stable and generous - in other words, someone who is exactly like them. On the other hand, what do City Boys want? Typically, just someone who has a nice body! 

At the end of the day, let's face it: men are lazy. The bottom line is that they don't want it all, and women do.

It's something to think about the next time you find yourself choosing between determining Beta or domestic bliss.




you make an interesting point  Jaguar about men being lazy....there may be some truth to it....but I think u hit it on the head.,..men don't usually want it all unless they are power-mad.....women seem to want everything....I don't know why that is.....

Ultimately, what we men want is to be left alone...we don't like to fight over small things that seem very insignificant to us...like what dress are you going to wear....who cares?..just put one on..we love the way you look regardless....it just seems to us that women want to quibble over the silliest things....and then when men don't want to fight about these things then we are labeled as "not caring" or something like that....

we men hate to be dragged to different functions by our women in which there is no reason for us to be there...for example my wife always wants tme to go to baby showers...(WHY?)....thats supposed to be stuff for her to do with her friends..why in the world should I be interested in that?

I can't tell you how many weddings my wife made me attend over the years....we men hate weddings because then we have to smile, and glad hand and engage in meaningless conversation with a bunch of strangers we don't know...and we have to put on a tuxedo on a saturday...and plus I can't tell you how many of these couples have broken up over the years....you begin to say to yourself why go when you just know the relationship is not going to last anyway?

I commend women because they seem to have endless energy..they want to do all of these wonderful things and go to al their friends, parties, baby showers, weddings, family gatherings, etc..you name it and they want to go to it..all the time...We men just want a simple life....men just want to stay home. go to the gym, watch cable TV, have a sandwich and beer, make love a little and take a nap...we go out to the bar to socialize now and then and play some sports with our friends but we don't try to be everything to everybody....

Women always want us to understand them but they take very little time to understand who we are....they become very impatient when we don't do what they want us to do.....if my wife doesn't want to go to the football game with me I don't sweat it....but If I don't want to go to her friend's daughter's sweet sixteen, forget it!!!

This is not a criticism of women..just an observation...I even envy women because they have strong friendships, and a big social network of people who they can rely on for support.....but men are not lazy..just different.

we do take our jobs seriously and we want to be promoted and earn more....but women seem to want us to do all the things they are doing and more...and they want all of us to be go-getters....having a simple job that we love doing although we don't make a lot at doing it, isn't enough for women..they want us to quit doing what we love to make more money in order to make them happy....and when we balk against this, then they get angry and start nagging....and men really hate to hear the same things over and over again..it makes us miserable.....women want to obsess and talk about every little thing....we want to talk to women about their needs and wants and stuff, but just once...not a million times....we want to solve the problem and move on and women seem to want to obsess endlessly over it

In the end, we men love the hell out of women and we always will be there for them, but sometimges women have thie image of the perfect man, the knight in shining armor, and they won't settle for anything less than that....and if we have a hobby that we adore and spend our spare time being involved with, women see that as being childish and and want you to stop doing it because it takes away time that they want you to spend with them...like you are not allowed to have any emotional attachment to anything other than them because they somehow see that as a threat and to them since in their minds it means that you don't love them or are taking them for granted....so in this regard...we men may come across as lazy..but we are just different...that's all.....can you tell us why do women feel the need to have it all and to have the perfect life?


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: 24KT on June 08, 2009, 01:21:36 PM
Interesting post, but I'm not sure it applies in this situation.  :-\

The author isn't talking about male/female relationships in general, ...she's refering to relationships between alphas.

High performing alpha females want the same in their mates, while high performing alpha mates are often willing to settle for betas. that's the crux of her beef. I think it boils down to women having to have respect and admiration for their men, whereas the same can't always be said for males. not saying men don't admire & respect those they choose as mates, but it's a different type of respect and admiration.

ps: I'm saddened that you're no longer a candidate for slapping.  :'(  j/k  ;)   :D


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: andreisdaman on June 08, 2009, 01:37:02 PM
can you give us a little more info about yourself?..what do you do for a living?...are you an Alpha or Beta?...give us some of your views on whether an Alpha woman should settle for a Beta male...is your significant other an Alpha or Beta?...AND IF YOU DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT OTHER WHY DID YOU SELECT HIM?...

Thanks!


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Deicide on June 08, 2009, 04:59:46 PM
Epic man hating in this thread.

Team Horrible Genetics approved


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Original Sin on June 08, 2009, 06:42:45 PM
Epic man hating in this thread.

Team Horrible Genetics approved

Just equaling out all the negative threads against the women.  >:(

and what is Team Horrible Genetics?


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Parker on June 08, 2009, 08:40:43 PM
Just equaling out all the negative threads against the women.  >:(

and what is Team Horrible Genetics?

The threads are not hating on women, you are miscontruing our lack of understanding and frustration for hatred...

THG is self explanatory...I'm not part of it.


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Deicide on June 09, 2009, 12:46:00 AM
The threads are not hating on women, you are miscontruing our lack of understanding and frustration for hatred...

THG is self explanatory...I'm not part of it.

Lucky bastard. :-\

Team Horrible Genetics approved


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Deicide on June 09, 2009, 12:47:13 AM
Just equaling out all the negative threads against the women.  >:(

and what is Team Horrible Genetics?

Is the exclusive getbig team of all those with horrible bbing genetics.

Team Horrible Genetics approved


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Parker on June 09, 2009, 04:17:50 AM
Lucky bastard. :-\

Team Horrible Genetics approved

Luck has nothing to do with it, I could beat myself up for being 5'5...but i never had a problem with it, plus how many 6'5 70 yr olds do you see ;)


Title: Re: Let's Face It, Men Are Lazy
Post by: Deicide on June 09, 2009, 07:02:17 AM
Luck has nothing to do with it, I could beat myself up for being 5'5...but i never had a problem with it, plus how many 6'5 70 yr olds do you see ;)

Genetics=everything

Team Horrible Genetics approved