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I come back here after a long break in the mountains of china, only to find that bodybuilding has once again threw away all credibility.
Tell me, how the jaw 'wide waist' gutler get 1st ahead of dexter? not to mention branch 'frankenstein' warren beating him too for that matter.
yes, jay improved his titanic like waterlogged condition of previous years, but it still wasn't anywhere near dexters level. Jay beats him on mass and height, nothing else. Also if you photoshopped dexter to jays height i guarentee that dex holds more mass per inch than jaw gutler. While still maintaining his slim waist, symetry, conditioning, seperation. 8)
However i can accept that if mass and height are classed as more important that all these other things by the judges ( which is not bodybuilding) then yes jaw gutler should have won over dexter.
Now onto branch >:(
This guy is hard working, has tons of mass, a heart of a lion, a never say die attitude, and possibly the best conditioning of anyone around right now including dexter. What he does not have is arms, symetry, seperation, a pleasing physique or the title of best physique in the world. He has a torn right lat, his arms are horrendous, and his body parts have no flow, and despite his great conditioning. He looks like he is made from a collection of different peoples bodyparts.
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When has branch ever looked this good:
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I almost forgot how much Branch CRUSHED Dex, thx
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Jay was the clear winner IMO, but Dex was clearly second.
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Dexters back is better, but dex has no calves and dex arms are better.
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jay dex and kai all should have placed ahead of him. he looked good though.
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and more ::)
really there is no comparison dex was robbed. Just as many greats in the past have been too, like nasser, ray etc
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now this pic of jay and dex says it all regarding his beating of dex , how can this fridge ever ever ever beat dexter with a waist like that ::)
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judges ~O-O~
branch ahead of Dex no... Jay Cutler MR olympia Yes.
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now this pic of jay and dex says it all regarding his beating of dex , how can this fridge ever ever ever beat dexter with a waist like that ::)
who's the black kid?
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whos that fat waterlogged guy with zero conditioning ::)
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Ha! You're back after a 'long break' and the first thing you do is piss and moan!? Should have stayed away 'longer.' ;)
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Ha! You're back after a 'long break' and the first thing you do is piss and moan!? Should have stayed away 'longer.' ;)
of course - its the olympia after all. ;)
p.s. dex was robbed !
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I almost forgot how much Branch CRUSHED Dex, thx
Branch gets killed from the back! And his lack of forearms and smallish upper arms compared to huge shredded legs (some of the best in the pro ranks) give him a T-Rex look
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(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5130/heillll.gif)
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I head Dex ahead of Branch as well. Branch 2nd place was a tough call.
Places 2-5 could have been either way, back and forth.
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all things considered,dex should be proud to win 1 mro ,when in fact shawn ray who dex has been often compared in terms of similar build,and long time top 5 pro at the o never won one.dex shows up in top form as ray did for over ten yrs.
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now this pic of jay and dex says it all regarding his beating of dex , how can this fridge ever ever ever beat dexter with a waist like that ::)
Of course Jay has a wider waist than Dexter...but look how much wider his shoulders, etc., are than Dex's. Afterall, he must have outweighed Dexter by 30-35 lbs and was just as conditioned. Additionally, Jay had no gut distention which is incredible given his size.
In the Branch/Dex comparison, I think Branch wins every pose except the rear double biceps. Nice to see Branch get rewarded for dialing it in!
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When comparing bodybuilders you HAVE to compare them standing next to each other. If you take their pics individually, Dex absolutely demolishes the other but once u put him next to Jay its not so clear anymore. In my mind it could have went either way, but Dex did not emerge as a clear cut winner at all.
As far as getting 3rd, WOW. Talk about getting robbed! I still can't understand that decision.
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Of course Jay has a wider waist than Dexter...but look how much wider his shoulders, etc., are than Dex's. Afterall, he must have outweighed Dexter by 30-35 lbs and was just as conditioned. Additionally, Jay had no gut distention which is incredible given his size.
In the Branch/Dex comparison, I think Branch wins every pose except the rear double biceps. Nice to see Branch get rewarded for dialing it in!
Your last statement is quite telling. He got "rewarded" for dialing it in, not for beating Dex, Phil, Vic. If this is true, then the judging criteria is bunk. So if joj and Melvin finally come in diced they deserved a high placing as well, we've all been waiting for them to actually deliver
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Your last statement is quite telling. He got "rewarded" for dialing it in, not for beating Dex, Phil, Vic. If this is true, then the judging criteria is bunk. So if joj and Melvin finally come in diced they deserved a high placing as well, we've all been waiting for them to actually deliver
he did belong in the top 5 without a doubt.. branch had sick conditioning and he was fuggin huge, so 3rd place was pretty much a given because Kai and Phil lacked conditioning. But 2nd place over Dex was going a bit too far IMO.
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he did belong in the top 5 without a doubt.. branch had sick conditioning and he was fuggin huge, so 3rd place was pretty much a given because Kai and Phil lacked conditioning. But 2nd place over Dex was going a bit too far IMO.
Problem is, just because Branch was conditioned doesn't mean he should pla e high. If we were to take only conditioning, Andreas Munzer would have multiple O's even after his death. Branch looked his best when he first turned pro. But if we look at Branch's back versus, Dex, Kai, Phil, Vic, we see Branch coming up short. I want to to know the justification of all this. With the Ronnie and Dorian era you knew the reasons why. Now not so, why is that.
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i agree branch looks like a load of bodyparts thrown together, front double bi is horrible. his lack of forerms are possibly some of the worst I've ever seen on a mr o competitor
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Your last statement is quite telling. He got "rewarded" for dialing it in, not for beating Dex, Phil, Vic. If this is true, then the judging criteria is bunk. So if joj and Melvin finally come in diced they deserved a high placing as well, we've all been waiting for them to actually deliver
My last statement included that Branch won every pose except the RDB against Dexter imo. And, yes, he did get rewarded for dialing it in, but conditioning is a huge part of the judging criteria. And yes, if Melvin could Dial it in the way Branch did, he would be top 3 probably. Branch simply had too much size and too much conditioning for Dex to beat him...Dex is more aesthetic, but Branch was better last night plain and simple.
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now this pic of jay and dex says it all regarding his beating of dex , how can this fridge ever ever ever beat dexter with a waist like that ::)
Jay is twice Dex's size, obviously his waist is going to be proportionately bigger, look at the difference in shoulder width.
Oh and speaking of big waists, you should really be one to talk, calling the kettle black ;)
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I come back here after a long break in the mountains of china, only to find that bodybuilding has once again threw away all credibility.
Tell me, how the jaw 'wide waist' gutler get 1st ahead of dexter? not to mention branch 'frankenstein' warren beating him too for that matter.
yes, jay improved his titanic like waterlogged condition of previous years, but it still wasn't anywhere near dexters level. Jay beats him on mass and height, nothing else. Also if you photoshopped dexter to jays height i guarentee that dex holds more mass per inch than jaw gutler. While still maintaining his slim waist, symetry, conditioning, seperation. 8)
However i can accept that if mass and height are classed as more important that all these other things by the judges ( which is not bodybuilding) then yes jaw gutler should have won over dexter.
Now onto branch >:(
This guy is hard working, has tons of mass, a heart of a lion, a never say die attitude, and possibly the best conditioning of anyone around right now including dexter. What he does not have is arms, symetry, seperation, a pleasing physique or the title of best physique in the world. He has a torn right lat, his arms are horrendous, and his body parts have no flow, and despite his great conditioning. He looks like he is made from a collection of different peoples bodyparts.
great post agree 100%, but some people like blocky waists i guess ::)
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Jay was the only one with sufficiently striated glutes, so he has my vote. 8)
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FatPanda, you should stick to what you do best at... I'll take a #3 extra spicy and a side of beef fried rice... thanks!
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The blade has been looking the same the past 8 years which means that he was robbed for the past how many o's?
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great post agree 100%, but some people like blocky waists i guess ::)
you gotta be kidding, dex is a child compared to the monsters up there, go to the 202 class kiddo, that is where dex belongs maybe he can win some there.
jt
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you gotta be kidding, dex is a child compared to the monsters up there, go to the 202 class kiddo, that is where dex belongs maybe he can win some there.
jt
Haha maybe he can win some of those 8)
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From the waist down, branch DESTROYS Dexter- no debate.
Branch has a better, thicker chest.
Branch's conditioning was far superior to Dex.
His ab and thigh shot is one of the best out there, as are his side chest and side tri. He looks great in certain poses, and brings awesome conditioning. Dex only brings a bad attitude and tiger sculptures.
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I come back here after a long break in the mountains of china, only to find that bodybuilding has once again threw away all credibility.
Tell me, how the jaw 'wide waist' gutler get 1st ahead of dexter? not to mention branch 'frankenstein' warren beating him too for that matter.
yes, jay improved his titanic like waterlogged condition of previous years, but it still wasn't anywhere near dexters level. Jay beats him on mass and height, nothing else. Also if you photoshopped dexter to jays height i guarentee that dex holds more mass per inch than jaw gutler. While still maintaining his slim waist, symetry, conditioning, seperation. 8)
However i can accept that if mass and height are classed as more important that all these other things by the judges ( which is not bodybuilding) then yes jaw gutler should have won over dexter.
Now onto branch >:(
This guy is hard working, has tons of mass, a heart of a lion, a never say die attitude, and possibly the best conditioning of anyone around right now including dexter. What he does not have is arms, symetry, seperation, a pleasing physique or the title of best physique in the world. He has a torn right lat, his arms are horrendous, and his body parts have no flow, and despite his great conditioning. He looks like he is made from a collection of different peoples bodyparts.
I agree also.
Dex has the best bod going around right now..perhaps ever.
his lines and symmetry and proportions are exquisite.
how the ugly lumps of muscle can even be judged close is beyond me.
i cant think of anyone in the TOP 10 that has a visually appealing physique..let alone ones that can be awarded as better than Dex's.
yes, BB is complete Bullshit.
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I agree also.
Dex has the best bod going around right now..perhaps ever.
his lines and symmetry and proportions are exquisite.
how the ugly lumps of muscle can even be judged close is beyond me.i cant think of anyone in the TOP 10 that has a visually appealing physique..let alone ones that can be awarded as better than Dex's.
yes, BB is complete Bullshit.
If you give people shit long enough, they start to like Shit. Kinda like the The Big Three Principle---without the Japanese.
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If Branch gets second based on conditioning, then Rockel should have been third.
The results should have been:
1. Jay
2. Dexter
3.... Whoever you want.
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I come back here after a long break in the mountains of china, only to find that bodybuilding has once again threw away all credibility.
Tell me, how the jaw 'wide waist' gutler get 1st ahead of dexter? not to mention branch 'frankenstein' warren beating him too for that matter.
yes, jay improved his titanic like waterlogged condition of previous years, but it still wasn't anywhere near dexters level. Jay beats him on mass and height, nothing else. Also if you photoshopped dexter to jays height i guarentee that dex holds more mass per inch than jaw gutler. While still maintaining his slim waist, symetry, conditioning, seperation. 8)
However i can accept that if mass and height are classed as more important that all these other things by the judges ( which is not bodybuilding) then yes jaw gutler should have won over dexter.
Now onto branch >:(
This guy is hard working, has tons of mass, a heart of a lion, a never say die attitude, and possibly the best conditioning of anyone around right now including dexter. What he does not have is arms, symetry, seperation, a pleasing physique or the title of best physique in the world. He has a torn right lat, his arms are horrendous, and his body parts have no flow, and despite his great conditioning. He looks like he is made from a collection of different peoples bodyparts.
Good post.
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I wish dex would add 15-20lbs and see what he looks like.
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The blade has been looking the same the past 8 years which means that he was robbed for the past how many o's?
If someone falls, Dexter is there to pick up the pieces. The only time he has been able to do so was in 2008 but he did it, desreved it and now the show goes on.
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I come back here after a long break in the mountains of china, only to find that bodybuilding has once again threw away all credibility.
Tell me, how the jaw 'wide waist' gutler get 1st ahead of dexter? not to mention branch 'frankenstein' warren beating him too for that matter.
yes, jay improved his titanic like waterlogged condition of previous years, but it still wasn't anywhere near dexters level. Jay beats him on mass and height, nothing else. Also if you photoshopped dexter to jays height i guarentee that dex holds more mass per inch than jaw gutler. While still maintaining his slim waist, symetry, conditioning, seperation. 8)
However i can accept that if mass and height are classed as more important that all these other things by the judges ( which is not bodybuilding) then yes jaw gutler should have won over dexter.
Now onto branch >:(
This guy is hard working, has tons of mass, a heart of a lion, a never say die attitude, and possibly the best conditioning of anyone around right now including dexter. What he does not have is arms, symetry, seperation, a pleasing physique or the title of best physique in the world. He has a torn right lat, his arms are horrendous, and his body parts have no flow, and despite his great conditioning. He looks like he is made from a collection of different peoples bodyparts.
I totally agree with you about branch my friend, it was a joke to place him 2nd.. he shouldn’t have been in the top 6!!..
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I totally agree with you about branch my friend, it was a joke to place him 2nd.. he shouldn’t have been in the top 6!!..
At that level it's so damn close that little things can really make the difference. I think it was Branch's boyish good looks that put him over the top. The ears are just gravy.
(http://www.flexonline.com/09contests/09olympia/men/branch_warren/images/_MG_5137.jpg)
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At that level it's so damn close that little things can really make the difference. I think it was Branch's boyish good looks that put him over the top. The ears are just gravy.
(http://www.flexonline.com/09contests/09olympia/men/branch_warren/images/_MG_5137.jpg)
Are you trying to say that if branch sits down next to a family, nine out of ten times the kids start crying?
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Dex only won last year cause Jay didn't look the way he did this year or in 2006. Glad he's no longer Mr Olympia - no personality or charisma whatsover and too small & short to be a Mr Olympia.
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now this pic of jay and dex says it all regarding his beating of dex , how can this fridge ever ever ever beat dexter with a waist like that ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=299766.0;attach=341297;image)
Holy shit! I missed this pic. Great find, FP. I'm saving this to my disk as a prime example of how dominating Jay was that night. He makes Dex look like a little boy. Look at the width of that White bastard! One of Jay's quads alone can practically block out the entire body of Dexter.
Just destroyed everybody.
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Are you trying to say that if branch sits down next to a family, nine out of ten times the kids start crying?
I'm saying that given the choice of looking like a metro pretty boy or an absolute beast that sends the fear of God on all who dare cast their gaze upon me I'd take Branch any day.
If our President looked like that the Muslim dogs would suicide themselves en masse.
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:) so at least all of the intelligent sensible getbiggers that actually understand how bodybuilding is judged agree with me.
another comparison:
hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha what were those judges smoking ???
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Dex only won last year cause Jay didn't look the way he did this year or in 2006. Glad he's no longer Mr Olympia - no personality or charisma whatsover and too small & short to be a Mr Olympia.
you may be right about his lack of charisma but this should not be counted when judging!!..
anyway since 2001 dex never beat an ON jay so I expected jay to beat him (as most of the ppl here did) as soon as I noticed jay was clearly on.. it was like another dorian/shawn ray comparison.. this tells you too how better the guys of the 90s were, just compare jay to dorian and dex to ray!!..
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whos that fat waterlogged guy with zero conditioning ::)
Hah! The cuts on Jay's quads alone are deep enough to plant enough grain to feed half the continent of Africa.
Not that you'd ever want to. I'm just saying.
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jay is hardly arnold or nasser either though ;D
i have never managed to sit through and endure a jay video from start to finish, they all are boring as hell.
dexters was too though, but he's only had 3, jay has had 5/6 ? with all being a cure for insomnia.
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Hah! The cuts on Jay's quads alone are deep enough to plant enough grain to feed half the continent of Africa.
Not that you'd ever want to. I'm just saying.
::) pity about his back though.
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:) so at least all of the intelligent sensible getbiggers that actually understand how bodybuilding is judged agree with me.
another comparison:
hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha what were those judges smoking ???
"Douche bag says what?"
(http://www.flexonline.com/09contests/09olympia/men/branch_warren/images/_MG_5156.jpg)
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"Douche bag says what?"
(http://www.flexonline.com/09contests/09olympia/men/branch_warren/pages/_MG_5156.html)
fail !
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:) so at least all of the intelligent sensible getbiggers that actually understand how bodybuilding is judged agree with me.
another comparison:
hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha what were those judges smoking ???
I thought you were trying to show photos as an example of why Dex was allegedly robbed, this pic just shows Branch's dominance. The only thing Dex has been robbed of is muscle mass and a decent pair of calves.
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fail !
I fixed it.
Success!
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I fixed it.
Success!
congrats, now
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OM
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never forget what a real bodybuilder should look like:
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Nah, I hear you Pandarella about Branch vs. Dex. But Jay was the clear winner. It's been a while since it's been this decisive. Bodybuilding, beginning with Dorian and especially with Coleman, is a freak show. It ain't a beauty contest. Few look at these guys and say "That's how I want to look." It's about comic book like proportions and jaw dropping mass. When Jay first walked out I just thought, "Holy shit! What a monster!"
It's a show. A freak show. If I want to look at twinks with 30 inch waists and 15 inch arms I'd buy Men's fitness. Then I'd kill myself for being a homo.
Besides, the only way I can look at oiled men in thongs is when they look like beasts. Branch, Coleman and Jay, who in this shot just looks like he's dripping with muscle. I mean, Jesus Fuking Christ!
(http://www.flexonline.com/09contests/09olympia/men/jay_cutler/images/_MG_5536.jpg)
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jay is hardly arnold or nasser either though ;D
i have never managed to sit through and endure a jay video from start to finish, they all are boring as hell.
dexters was too though, but he's only had 3, jay has had 5/6 ? with all being a cure for insomnia.
great reference in a great thread by the greatest getbigger ;D ;D
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The IFBB is sending a message to Dex to FUCK OFF.
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you may be right about his lack of charisma but this should not be counted when judging!!..
anyway since 2001 dex never beat an ON jay so I expected jay to beat him (as most of the ppl here did) as soon as I noticed jay was clearly on.. it was like another dorian/shawn ray comparison.. this tells you too how better the guys of the 90s were, just compare jay to dorian and dex to ray!!..
Agree about the fact that his personality shouldn't affect his placing. That's why I mentioned his lack of charisma in regards to why he made a poor Mr Olympia and not in the context of judging.
I wouldn't have complained if they swapped Dex's place with Branch, but Dex wasn't as sharp as we've seen him look and looked softer on Saturday, whereas Branch got harder. I think the judges penalized Dex for not living up to his rep.
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::) pity about his back though.
A pity for Dex.
(http://www.flexonline.com/09contests/09olympia/men/jay_cutler/images/_MG_5521.jpg)
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Nah, I hear you Pandarella about Branch vs. Dex. But Jay was the clear winner. It's been a while since it's been this decisive. Bodybuilding, beginning with Dorian and especially with Coleman, is a freak show. It ain't a beauty contest. Few look at these guys and say "That's how I want to look." It's about comic book like proportions and jaw dropping mass. When Jay first walked out I just thought, "Holy shit! What a monster!"
It's a show. A freak show. If I want to look at twinks with 30 inch waists and 15 inch arms I'd buy Men's fitness. Then I'd kill myself for being a homo.
Besides, the only way I can look at oiled men in thongs is when they look like beasts. Branch, Coleman and Jay, who in this shot just looks like he's dripping with muscle. I mean, Jesus Fuking Christ!
(http://www.flexonline.com/09contests/09olympia/men/jay_cutler/images/_MG_5536.jpg)
WELL SAID! no way Dex beats that,,,no way!
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Agree about the fact that his personality shouldn't affect his placing. That's why I mentioned his lack of charisma in regards to why he made a poor Mr Olympia and not in the context of judging.
I wouldn't have complained if they swapped Dex's place with Branch, but Dex wasn't as sharp as we've seen him look and looked softer on Saturday, whereas Branch got harder. I think the judges penalized Dex for not living up to his rep.
but as FP clearly mentioned it’s not a CONDITION ONLY game!!.. branch has thick quads and chest and his condition was great but then what??.. he has a lot of flaws that make his physique clearly unproportional.. his arms are weaker than dorian’s, can you imagine!!...................... ;D
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Dexter was robbed of second place, but NOT the title. Sorry.
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but as FP clearly mentioned it’s not a CONDITION ONLY game!!.. branch has thick quads and chest and his condition was great but then what??.. he has a lot of flaws that make his physique clearly unproportional.. his arms are weaker than dorian’s, can you imagine!!...................... ;D
Dex does have better shape than Branch, but Branch looks decent in most of the mandatories, except for the front double biceps and most muscular. Plus, the Olympia is always about conditioning more than just shape alone. I didn't expect Branch to be second either, but I can see why he got awarded that placing. Had Dex been as sharp as he was last year, Branch would have been third.
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Branch becond blace, bood bor bim
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Dex does have better shape than Branch, but Branch looks decent in most of the mandatories, except for the front double biceps and most muscular. Plus, the Olympia is always about conditioning more than just shape alone. I didn't expect Branch to be second either, but I can see why he got awarded that placing. Had Dex been as sharp as he was last year, Branch would have been third.
it's not only dex. but imo kai and heath too deserved to beat branch.. if condition is that important why a guy like Andreas Munzer never placed in the top six??.. at least his shape was better than branch!!.. even branch’s best body part, his quads, don’t look good, they are thick and big for sure but they don’t look good and each quad has a separate shape (as they were from 2 different guys)!!..
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=299766.0;attach=341297;image)
Holy shit! I missed this pic. Great find, FP. I'm saving this to my disk as a prime example of how dominating Jay was that night. He makes Dex look like a little boy. Look at the width of that White bastard! One of Jay's quads alone can practically block out the entire body of Dexter.
Just destroyed everybody.
are you serious?
being BIG doesnt win- and isnt the criteria of the mr.olympia.
that pic shows how much better a bodybuilder that Dex is than Jay. Sure its genetics, but Dex looks sculptured whereas Jay looks like masses of slapped on muscle with a bit of shape. Everything Dex has looks like it's meant to be there.
same can be said for the rest of the top 10- loads of muscle all over the place but none of them have it where it supposed to be.
I'll say it again...do the front double Bi and then see who's got the goods. they all look like poo 'cept for Dex...who looks awesome.
he doesnt need any more muscle...he needs BB to be judged according to the criteria of the best BB...not the most massive or the tallest or the most ripped.
pure and simple it goes to who looks the best. In that pic Dex has an upper body very reminiscent of Sergio's IMO. Very similar shape across the pecs and traps..but Dex's arms are even more freaky than Sergios.
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are you serious?
being BIG doesnt win- and isnt the criteria of the mr.olympia.
WHAT? No, are you SERIOUS? Being big has everything to do with being Mr. Olympia. Like it or not that is the direction the sport has taken. It's no about longer Zane, Paris, Labrada.... it's about monsters. Larger than life cartoon like characters. That's what people want to see and that's the way it is. In a sense it's always been that way with Arnold and Sergio making the biggest impact from back in the good old iron age days. After Dorian and then Coleman bodybuilding's fate was sealed. You, personally, may want to look nice and pretty but when it comes to top of the top bodybuilding people want to see monsters that look like they come from another world.
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Team midget got bulldozed by Team Aryan
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Team midget got bulldozed by Team Aryan
Beautifully stated. And hopefully when Jay retires the other huge Aryan bastard Wolf will take up the mantel.
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Hah, what was with the germans posing to rammstein? Do they have one metal band?
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now this pic of jay and dex says it all regarding his beating of dex , how can this fridge ever ever ever beat dexter with a waist like that ::)
relax, take a deep breath
yes, cutler's waist is bigger than dex by far
but Jay's shoulder width makes that of dexter look like a ten year old
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Yes, the only criteria for winning the Olympia is to have a tiny waist...... ::)
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I come back here after a long break in the mountains of china, only to find that bodybuilding has once again threw away all credibility.
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Now onto branch >:(
This guy is hard working, has tons of mass, a heart of a lion, a never say die attitude, and possibly the best conditioning of anyone around right now including dexter. What he does not have is arms, symetry, seperation, a pleasing physique or the title of best physique in the world. He has a torn right lat, his arms are horrendous, and his body parts have no flow, and despite his great conditioning. He looks like he is made from a collection of different peoples bodyparts.
Gotta agree with that assessment. His arms are horrible and he got a wide waist with a growing palumoesque protruding stomach. Horrible!
NN
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dex
if you are reading this
we here do not like you
that is all
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Dexter or Kai should have won. Just because Jay came in better than he has in the past 5 years shouldnt automatically give him the title. Dexter and Kai were still much more conditioned than Jay, although props to Jay anyways.
Anyways if you like big guts and big arms then yay jay is mr olympia.
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This contest was not close bw 1 and 2---
See the Arnold Classic 2003 where Cutler dominated and I think Dex took 3rd or 4th ( not the year where cutler was overdepleted and was given a gift). The comparison then and the comparison now is almost identical. It wasn't close then and it wasn't close on Friday.
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great reference in a great thread by the greatest getbigger ;D ;D
thank you my great friend, i'm sure huge nasser feels dexters pain, as he too has been by far the best man on stage but still been robbed.
jay won because he looked better than he's looked in years, not because he was the best man on stage - i'd argue mass wise branch is more dense, with better conditioning.
branch got 2nd because he was in great condition and had lots of mass.
dex looked as good as he always looks i.e. consistently great, with no gut, great lines, shape, conditioning, proportion - so the ifbb decide thats not good enough ???
::) pathetic
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thank you my great friend, i'm sure huge nasser feels dexters pain, as he too has been by far the best man on stage but still been robbed.
jay won because he looked better than he's looked in years, not because he was the best man on stage - i'd argue mass wise branch is more dense, with better conditioning.
branch got 2nd because he was in great condition and had lots of mass.
dex looked as good as he always looks i.e. consistently great, with no gut, great lines, shape, conditioning, proportion - so the ifbb decide thats not good enough ???
::) pathetic
Yes my friend, but you know, as kiwi mentioned here before dex. doesn’t have enough charisma to be mr. Olympia while jay to some extent has it, at least more than the other guys.. they want a more popular mr. Olympia to attract more fans and to sell everything more and more..
I personally don’t like jay’s physique because of its softness and because of the lack of symmetry between his right side and his left (his biceps and his quads),.. but still i don’t feel that bad when he won this year, we used to the fact that the biggest man was always the winner!!.. dorian was not the best in 94 but they gave him the title because of his size, same with Ronnie in 2000 or 2002!!.. at least jay came this time at his best or close to his best and didn’t steal another sandow as he had done in 2007.. from the first pic. everyone knew jay would win because he was clearly on and dex. never beat an on jay, may be he deserved to beat him but he never did so it was predictable he was not going to beat jay this time also!!..
branch's 2nd place is the real surprise of the show!..
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Yes my friend, but you know, as kiwi mentioned here before dex. doesn’t have enough charisma to be mr. Olympia while jay to some extent has it, at least more than the other guys.. they want a more popular mr. Olympia to attract more fans and to sell everything more and more..
I personally don’t like jay’s physique because of its softness and because of the lack of symmetry between his right side and his left (his biceps and his quads),.. but still i don’t feel that bad when he won this year, we used to the fact that the biggest man was always the winner!!.. dorian was not the best in 94 but they gave him the title because of his size, same with Ronnie in 2000 or 2002!!.. at least jay came this time at his best or close to his best and didn’t steal another sandow as he had done in 2007.. from the first pic. everyone knew jay would win because he was clearly on and dex. never beat an on jay, may be he deserved to beat him but he never did so it was predictable he was not going to beat jay this time also!!..
branch's 2nd place is the real surprise of the show!..
Arnold himself will say that he won more than one Olympia with his charisma...gave him the extra edge
Jay has some
Dex has none
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I dunno- I think they both have none
Jay sounds like a robot having a cucumber shoved up his ass and Dex is just a douchebag.
Bottom line is that Jay looked better- way better than he did a year ago, he is a former Mr. Olympia and Dexter came in with the same package as usual. If it was close a year ago and Dex eeked out a victory, then how can anyone dispute this years outcome?
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I dunno- I think they both have none
Jay sounds like a robot having a cucumber shoved up his ass and Dex is just a douchebag.
Bottom line is that Jay looked better- way better than he did a year ago, he is a former Mr. Olympia and Dexter came in with the same package as usual. If it was close a year ago and Dex eeked out a victory, then how can anyone dispute this years outcome?
never heard either speak
however
I feel those with the supp co $$ would rather have Jay, due to his superior on-stage comportment
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Bottom line is that Jay looked better- way better than he did a year ago, he is a former Mr. Olympia and Dexter came in with the same package as usual. If it was close a year ago and Dex eeked out a victory, then how can anyone dispute this years outcome?
Very true. Also, I hate muslims and muslim sympathizers.
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Very true. Also, I hate muslims and muslim sympathizers.
agreed
there is no allah
no 72 virgins
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We all have our own ideal physique but it should be no surprise Jay took the title. He was huge, great condition, despite a wide waist did not have any gut bloating, and he still has a taper because his shoulders are ridiculous.
At the Olympia, the more massive guys are favored if they are in good condition. Glad they moved away from the bloated guts. James & Silvio had bloating and were penalyzed. Branch and Jay were massive & nailed their condition without gut issues. Thats pretty consistant judging.
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I come back here after a long break in the mountains of china, only to find that bodybuilding has once again threw away all credibility.
Tell me, how the jaw 'wide waist' gutler get 1st ahead of dexter? not to mention branch 'frankenstein' warren beating him too for that matter.
yes, jay improved his titanic like waterlogged condition of previous years, but it still wasn't anywhere near dexters level. Jay beats him on mass and height, nothing else. Also if you photoshopped dexter to jays height i guarentee that dex holds more mass per inch than jaw gutler. While still maintaining his slim waist, symetry, conditioning, seperation. 8)
However i can accept that if mass and height are classed as more important that all these other things by the judges ( which is not bodybuilding) then yes jaw gutler should have won over dexter.
Now onto branch >:(
This guy is hard working, has tons of mass, a heart of a lion, a never say die attitude, and possibly the best conditioning of anyone around right now including dexter. What he does not have is arms, symetry, seperation, a pleasing physique or the title of best physique in the world. He has a torn right lat, his arms are horrendous, and his body parts have no flow, and despite his great conditioning. He looks like he is made from a collection of different peoples bodyparts.
QFT!
Jay won because he is better for marketing and the buisness of bodybuilding more than Dexter is. He came in improved but us seeing a STRIATION and a visible vein in Jay and we lose our minds and sing him praise. Let us not forget... he is still un-symmetrical and blocky. Dexter had the best physique that night.
Branch placing second is even a bigger joke. It is 100% OBVIOUS that Lee Thompson is set to take over the NPC or IFBB very soon.
During the Olympia commentary Ronny Rockell (2nd best physique on stage) walks out and they said it... they even said... if Ronny was more popular with the American fans and spoke better english he would place HIGHER. They said that word for word.
WTF does that have to do with anything? See? Politics and buisness-marketing plans.
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Arnold himself will say that he won more than one Olympia with his charisma...gave him the extra edge
Jay has some
Dex has none
I wouldn't describe Jay as being charismatic but in a sport that is becoming increasingly sleazy he's a breath of fresh air. No flair but just a decent hard working guy who conducts himself like a professional. I actually like that he promotes his sponsors because they pay him good money to represent them and I think he keeps that in mind. Remember when Muscle Tech put out those little video vignettes of Dex and Jay before last year's O? I thought they were cool and tried to humanize these muscle heads. I thought Jay, despite being charismatically challenged, tried to get into it. Put on a good show. He realizes he works for them and they pay him good money so he's going to try to give them their money's worth. Put some effort into it. As for Dex, he had this ho-hum why do I have to do this shit attitude.
Dex is an arrogant douche.
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Quality work as usual, dyslexic.
Have you heard the one about DNA?
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Quality work as usual, dyslexic.
Have you heard the one about DNA?
Dex can only wish that he had her calves.
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Robbed, by a better bodybuilder.
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