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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Wrestling Board => Topic started by: mass 04 on December 16, 2009, 02:34:01 PM
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I'm suprised we haven't done this topic yet. HHH 2000-2003 had the best physique in history IMO. Hogan in his prime was massive too. Who else comes to mind?
(http://www.comedyblog.merseyblogs.co.uk/Triple-H.jpeg)
(http://www.hecklerspray.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/hulk.jpg)
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Steiner was huge near the end of wcw he looked better earlier IMO
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Ultimate Warrior - 1st WWF run
Rick Rude - anytime he donned tights
Jimmy Snuka - early 80's
Davey Boy Smith - early 90's was his best
Ivan Putski - all throughout his prime
Ray "Hercules" Hernandez - again, always looked good
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Ultimate Warrior
Road Warrior Hawk
HHH
Lashley - looked ridiculous on his debut
Orton - a few years ago, he had the best combination of size and aesthetics
These days I prefer the conditioning of Morrison and Ziggler.
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rick rude, hhh, and chris benoit were my first inspirations to go to the gym and train.
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There was only one guy I wanted to look like: Lex Luger. In his prime, he had it all: height, great lines, wide shoulders, small waist.
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Lugers a good choice. Hennig in his prime is very underrated. One thing i noticed is how Ted and Jr both have the same body type. Good chest and traps and weak arms and shoulders.
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Rocky Johnson and Tony Atlas
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Powers of Pain
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As a kid I liked Superstar Billy Graham ( late 70's version), Tony Atlas, Austin Idol, Putski.
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For me it was The Warlord. If you ever saw him live in the late eighties early ninties, the guy was as big as a house. My favorite wrestling physiques:
HHH in his prime 2000-2002
Scott Steiner as big papa pump...this guy was untouchable.
Ultimate Warrior huge & ripped
Hulk Hogan again huge
Hercules Hernandez
Rick Rude smaller scale build but shredded to the tee. Sick abs.
The Barbarian again huge
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Aesthetically, Rude had great balance/symmetry.
He usually combined that proportioning with impressive cuts.
There were times when he was a little smoother than others, but for many of his highest profile programs he looked impressive – even next to UW.
Quite a few times in WWF he looked like he was in single-digit BF%.
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I agree about HHH in his prime, was a primary motivation for me. I even purchased his workout book. Also worth mentioning is Mike Awesome and Lance Storm (due to his natural status).
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But honestly these days I have more realistic aspirations so I aim for something more achieveable like Ted Dibiase or Cody Rhodes type of physique. (no homo)
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ULTIMATE WARRIOR the closest to bbing build all around,luger great conditiong and shape,snuka as far back as late seventies looked unreal under the old madison square garden ring lights graham putski 2.remember they darkened the arena then and house lights were on and the lighting had great effect watch the old tapes u'll see sick lines on snuka.dynamite kid was very conditioned,paul roma great build again bbing look,never liked bulk hogan shapeless,,kerry von erich great build.long list on and on...
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ANd lots not forget....Superstar Billy Graham. He was HUGE and RIPPED.
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photo and article taken from his site, stormwrestling.com (http://stormwrestling.com)
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Training
Let me start by saying I am not a licensed or certified trainer. I am just a guy who has spent the better of the last 24 years in a gym, training with weights, and who has developed a way of training that works for me. This will only be a general explaination of my theory of training. I think the biggest problem people face in the gym is over training. This is a strange concept for people to grasp. More people are of the more is better philosophy. Over training is a result of people not knowing how to train. Unfortunately most workout advice comes from muscle magazines, and famous body builders. This is a problem because, with very few exceptions, all of these people are on steroids. Steroids enable your body to recover quicker from training, thus enable you to train harder and more frequent. If you train this way and aren't on steroids, your body will fatigue from over training, and you won't get your best results. Sometimes less is more.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not on steroids, nor have I ever been. The angle I did with Candito, and Dreamer, when I claimed to be the best built professional athlete, this side of a negative drug test was a shoot, as least as far as the negative drug test part. If you plan on using steroids my way of training won't be for you, for everyone else let me say avoiding steroids is a wise decision, steroids only provide very short term results, and they come with a very high price, not the least of which being inevitable injuries.
I believe best results are achieved when you train your body once to twice a week, and you must provide it with lots of rest, so it can grow. I divided my body into three training days; chest & biceps, shoulders & legs, back & triceps.
I try to get to the gym about 3 maybe 4 times a week (I wish it were more but unfortunately that isn't the case). So I train my body 1 to maybe 1 1/2 times per week. After training those muscle groups, which takes about 1 hour, I alternate abs and cardio. 1 day abs the next cardio. If I'm really pressed for time or feeling lazy I skip the abs and cardio. This isn't really a good idea but hey, no ones perfect, least of all me. This with wrestling 4 days a week is about all my body can handle.
The key to my training; is very strict form, I don't worry about lifting heavy weights, I worry about lifting them properly, and always use a full range of motion, with a slower stricter form. You need to avoid the urge of using too heavy of weight. Many people take long rest periods between sets so they can lift heavier. This is a waste of time, in my opinion. The muscle doesn't know the difference between 50 and 10 lbs, it only knows how hard it is working. If you train the muscle to failure, that's training heavy. What is too heavy and too light? I'm a firm believer in reps between 6 - 12. Choose a weight, then with strict form do as many reps as you can. If you can do more than 12, it's too light, go heavier with your next set. Your first set should be 10 - 12 reps. If you can't get 10 reps, it's too heavy to start. As long as you can get a strict 8 - 10 go a bit heavier next set. If you can only get 6 on your last 2 sets, that's cool, stay with that weight. If you can't get 6 reps, lower the weight. That's pretty much it, pretty basic really. This should give you a general idea as to the way I train. Please if you decide to try my training method, be sure to stretch and warm up the muscles before training. Always consult with a licensed trainer or doctor if you have any pain or discomfort while training. Muscle pain during training can be good, but any joint pain should be looked at seriously. The theory of "no pain, no gain" is often misunderstood.
I always train the biggest muscle first. Large muscles, such as Chest and Back, I do four exercises with 4 sets of each. Smaller muscles like Biceps and Triceps only 3 exercises with again 4 sets of each. Legs I train different from most people, I train legs with high reps and ligher weights. This isn't favourable for most people, but when I train legs heavy I lose my vertical leap, not to mention the fact that with 4 bulging discs in my lower back heavy squatting is not advised. My speed and mobility is too important too me, so I train light legs and only do 3 or 4 exercises for them. Shoulders are important and something very easy to injure in the gym. Overhead presses of some kind are a must for big shoulders, but they are very hard on you as well. My keys to taking care of the shoulders are; stretching, rotator cuff strengthening, and doing presses late in the workout. Most people do presses first, so they are fresh and can lift heavier. I disagree. I do lateral raises for the three deltoid heads first. This strengthens and tightens the muscles first, and helps stabilize the shoulder joint for the presses. You won't be able to press as heavy, but remember this doesn't matter. The muscle will still be working hard.
Supplements
I don't use any supplements anymore but i did use a couple of supplements when I was working fulltime, Creatine Monohydrate, and Vanadyl pH. I still use protein shakes and bars, but I consider them a diet supplement not a training supplement. For people who are just starting to train, I don't recommend supplements. I think it is important to get as much out of your body, on its own, before trying anything. I was training about 12 - 15 years before taking my first supplement. This is of course excessive but if you get everything out of your body that you can first, you will then be better able to judge what the supplements are actually doing for you. It is also along this same vain, why I suggest only taking 1 supplement at a time. If you take more than one, who is to say which is working for you, all bodies react differently.
Both of the supplements, I took, were recommended to me. Rob Rooksby is the owner & operator of The Gym is Calgary, and I get all of my diet and supplement advice from him. It's important to find someone you trust when buying supplements, as there is a lot of crap out there.
Diet
I don't have a very complex diet. A diet to me isn't something you are on, or off, it's simply your eating habits. I don't keep track of the amount of fat, protein, ot carbohydrates that I eat. My only rule of thumb is, avoid fat and keep my protein intake high. If there is a lot of fat in something, I don't eat it, period. I don't eat any desserts or junk food, and don't drink. No cheese. No butter. No peanut butter.
If they make a fat free version of something I use it. You do need some fat in your diet, but I find I still get enough when I try to avoid it all together. I always try to consume most of my carbohydrates earlier in the day. Avoid huge carb intake right before bed. Try to eat as many times a day as you can. Frequent meals increase your metabolism. Some people have a binge day, where they can eat things they usually don't. I disagree with this. I feel this only keeps your cravings alive. I find if you go long enough without something you quit craving it, and for the most part, no longer want it. Many people view eating as a source of enjoyment. I don't eat for enjoyment. I eat to fuel my body.
That's it in a nut shell, the world of Diet and Training as seen through the eyes of a guy who has been training for almost 2/3rds of his life. WOW I feel old!
Lance
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Back around '98/'99 he had a sample of each day's routines on the site.
And I don't remember if it was contained within the outline or part of another section, but he mentioned flat benching 400+ lbs. quite early in his lifting career.
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Back around '98/'99 he had a sample of each day's routines on the site.
And I don't remember if it was contained within the outline or part of another section, but he mentioned flat benching 400+ lbs. quite early in his lifting career.
I don't at all remember him saying he benched 400+lbs, not calling you a liar he may have but I just don't remember it. Also I have in a notepad said workout routines that he no longer has posted on his sight. I can post them someday if there is enough interest. Basically it is 4 exercises 4 sets of 6-10 reps per bodypart. Only 3 exercises for smaller muscle groups.
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In an interview of 2001, Chyna verified that HHH benched 405lbs.
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I don't at all remember him saying he benched 400+lbs, not calling you a liar he may have but I just don't remember it. Also I have in a notepad said workout routines that he no longer has posted on his sight. I can post them someday if there is enough interest. Basically it is 4 exercises 4 sets of 6-10 reps per bodypart. Only 3 exercises for smaller muscle groups.
Okay - it must have been in one of his commentaries, then. This was about 7 or 8 years ago.
I don't know how far his archives go back since redoing his site, but that'd be a lot to search through, anyway.
But, yes - 4 sets of 4 ex. is/was Storm's routine that he had documented on a chart in the training section of his old site.
RVD had bench weight listed in his training outline on his site.
He may, still. I haven't been on his site in years.
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I once saw a clip of RVD doing the splits on chairs while holding a 120lb dumbbell :o
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Jimmy Snuka
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Jimmy Snuka, Paul Orndorff, Road Warriors, Rick Rude and Don Muraco were among the first ones.
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this guy
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Nikita Koloff was a big dude.
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Nikita Koloff was a big dude.
(http://www.legendschampionshipwrestling.com/uploaded_images/19-721891.jpg)
Damn, how did I forget Nikita! He has monster traps. Very athletic guy for his size, too.
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Sid was massive too
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Sid was massive too
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I saw him in a strip club here in Toronto back in '96 after a house show and he was hammered out of his mind and he was so fucking big that he had to duck under the doorway.
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I saw him in a strip club here in Toronto back in '96 after a house show and he was hammered out of his mind and he was so fucking big that he had to duck under the doorway.
So, did you put any $20's in his g-string, stud? ;D
j/k
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Jimmy Snuka, Paul Orndorff, Road Warriors, Rick Rude and Don Muraco were among the first ones.
Orndorff always looked good until after his surgery when his affected arm was considerably smaller than the other.
He still went out & posed, doing the Mr. Wonderful thing, but it wasn’t the same.
Some people criticized Vince, claiming he did that for his own amusement.
But, that was Paul’s gimmick.
What else would he have done?
Truthfully, he was lucky just to have been working.
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Orndorff always looked good until after his surgery when his affected arm was considerably smaller than the other.
He still went out & posed, doing the Mr. Wonderful thing, but it wasn’t the same.
Some people criticized Vince, claiming he did that for his own amusement.
But, that was Paul’s gimmick.
What else would he have done?
Truthfully, he was lucky just to have been working.
That was a shame with the arm injury. I remember Orndorff as an NWA tt champ with Snuka when they very first broke in. His time in Georgia was probably his best work, IMO. That was right before he jumped to the WWF.
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Orndorff always looked good until after his surgery when his affected arm was considerably smaller than the other.
He still went out & posed, doing the Mr. Wonderful thing, but it wasn’t the same.
Some people criticized Vince, claiming he did that for his own amusement.
But, that was Paul’s gimmick.
What else would he have done?
Truthfully, he was lucky just to have been working.
my favorite orndorf bit was when he was walking around the gym putting people down.
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can't find full clip
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Just to name a few:
Warrior
The Patriot
Luger
Buff
Steiner
Hawk and Animal
Davie Boy
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my favorite orndorf bit was when he was walking around the gym putting people down.
I forgot about that gem (Orndorff). He had one of the best builds in the eighties in pro wrestling.
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I saw him in a strip club here in Toronto back in '96 after a house show and he was hammered out of his mind and he was so fucking big that he had to duck under the doorway.
When Vince signed Sid to be the next WWF “savior” and gave him certain treatments previously reserved for Hogan, it really went to his head.
Anyway, Sid was “enjoying himself” in an Atlanta bar with a few WCW wrestlers & workers. Before long, he was running his mouth about his pay raise, the limousine rides, etc., when a couple of the WCW boys had heard enough and physically threw him out of the place.
Stoned Sid went out to his car to retrieve a weapon and returned to the bar “armed” with what appeared to be some type of blade/pipe/crowbar/slapjack, when one of the referees (I think it may have been Randy Anderson) discovered the nature of the “foreign object.”
It’s a squeegee. He’s holding a FUKKING SQUEEGEE!
Then Anderson – all 145 lbs. of him – told Sid, “Get out of here before I stick that thing up your ass!”
The full reality of the situation sank in and Sid quietly turned around & left.
He was gone from the Fed soon after that.
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My guy was lex growing up. Not too massive. Nice powerful athletic build. Warrior had a nice build also. I remember Tatanka had nice size also along with some other guys.
I remember when Triple H version 2.0 hit the scene...I was in the military then....we were watching on duty and when he took that walk to the ring we were like DAMN. Impressive...very.
Batista wasn't too shabby either when he hit the scene. This is after he was leviathan and went solo I'm talking about. Back when he used to hit the double bi pose before he can to the ring. His intensity was greater back then imo. Even his orig. intro vid with him hitting the weights was intense.
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When Vince signed Sid to be the next WWF “savior” and gave him certain treatments previously reserved for Hogan, it really went to his head.
Anyway, Sid was “enjoying himself” in an Atlanta bar with a few WCW wrestlers & workers. Before long, he was running his mouth about his pay raise, the limousine rides, etc., when a couple of the WCW boys had heard enough and physically threw him out of the place.
Stoned Sid went out to his car to retrieve a weapon and returned to the bar “armed” with what appeared to be some type of blade/pipe/crowbar/slapjack, when one of the referees (I think it may have been Randy Anderson) discovered the nature of the “foreign object.”
It’s a squeegee. He’s holding a FUKKING SQUEEGEE!
Then Anderson – all 145 lbs. of him – told Sid, “Get out of here before I stick that thing up your ass!”
The full reality of the situation sank in and Sid quietly turned around & left.
He was gone from the Fed soon after that.
I heard about that too. That's typical Sid. He stabbed Arn Anderson some + times with a pair of sissors when they where both in WCW (after that WWE incident) in a hotel over seas and bth men had to be taken away. Arn kept his job due to hid buddies and pull and Sid was canned like a tuna. He really is crazy.
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I think Sid was poised to be one of those guys who could have had it all.
He already had so much going for him - the look, the size, the power, etc.
I'm not saying he would have been the next Hogan, but he could easily have worked the top of the card where ever he went - as either a face, or more likely a top heel working with the top babyfaces.
He got some good pushes, but then he did stupid shit like the above-mentioned incidents.
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I think Sid was poised to be one of those guys who could have had it all.
He already had so much going for him - the look, the size, the power, etc.
I'm not saying he would have been the next Hogan, but he could easily have worked the top of the card where ever he went - as either a face, or more likely a top heel working with the top babyfaces.
He got some good pushes, but then he did stupid shit like the above-mentioned incidents.
He's had all the oppurtunity but his constant stupidity costs him all the time. If you look at his career, he's never had more than a 1-2 year stint in a territiory before leaving or being released to go elsewhere.
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Ken Shamrock.. myabe 2nd or 3rd year in the wwf..
right before he went to the hosiptal for some type of kidney failure...
saw him at a house show...
freaking huge and ripped... :o
cant find a pic... :-\
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Ken Shamrock.. myabe 2nd or 3rd year in the wwf..
right before he went to the hosiptal for some type of kidney failure...
Go figure. :-\
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Ken Shamrock.. myabe 2nd or 3rd year in the wwf..
right before he went to the hosiptal for some type of kidney failure...
saw him at a house show...
freaking huge and ripped... :o
cant find a pic... :-\
Yeah, Ken got huge and lean when he went to the WWE.
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Superstar Billy Graham in the seventies had a killer physique that paved the way for the Steiner, Ventura, Hogan and other big guys.
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Superstar Billy Graham in the seventies had a killer physique that paved the way for the Steiner, Ventura, Hogan and other big guys.
So true, they all took from The Superstar.
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Take all the muscle men of pro wrestling and...If you could line them all up on stage while in their prime in a bodybuilding contest ....who would win ? My pick....Tony Atlas.
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Warrior has got to be in the top 2-3, Lugar was pretty jacked. Rick Rude, that's who I wanted to look like, even though he had no legs.
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may i add............
Rob Conway (had been as high as 275!)
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Rob Terry
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How about Kerry Von Erich....not a huge guy but decent chest
I too liked Luger although his arms always seemed unproportional to his body....I would love to surface a video when he first came out as the Narcissist. He was in the ring with Heenan behind a curtain and it came up slowly with Bobby creaming.....
Rumors were Lex was going post at a WBF show and had really started juicing, had his motorcycle accident and was sidelined
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How about Kerry Von Erich....not a huge guy but decent chest
I too liked Luger although his arms always seemed unproportional to his body....I would love to surface a video when he first came out as the Narcissist. He was in the ring with Heenan behind a curtain and it came up slowly with Bobby creaming.....
Rumors were Lex was going post at a WBF show and had really started juicing, had his motorcycle accident and was sidelined
Yeah, Lex's original deal was a WBF contract.
It sounds like when the company folded, they just transferred his contract to the wrestling end.
I didn’t know that Lex’s accident was around that time.
That was a pretty impressive recovery, IMO, given how good he looked at his ring debut.
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How about Kerry Von Erich....not a huge guy but decent chest
Heenan: "Kerry Von Erich, man has a million $ body and a 10c brain"
Golden ;D
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Heenan: "Kerry Von Erich, man has a million $ body and a 10c brain"
Golden ;D
Talk about telling the truth.
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Ellering was suprisingly built
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Ellering was suprisingly built
He was incredible for that time period. I think he did some competing in bbing back in the day too. He had the look, could sure talk but in-ring he was very mediocre at best.
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2 x's mr universe earl maynard wrestler, movie star bodtbuilder entrepeneur.
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em
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Best built wrestlers IMO were:
Superstar Billy Graham
Hulk Hogan
Ivan Putski
Scott Steiner
Ultimate Warrior
Bill Goldberg
Rick Rude
Tony Atlas
Rocky Johnson
Lex Lugar
There were others that were very muscular but these IMO had the best look.
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Best built wrestlers IMO were:
Superstar Billy Graham
Hulk Hogan
Ivan Putski
Scott Steiner
Ultimate Warrior
Bill Goldberg
Rick Rude
Tony Atlas
Rocky Johnson
Lex Lugar
There were others that were very muscular but these IMO had the best look.
^^ Very good list.
I'd add Ventura & Snuka.
Hennig, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, also looked good at many times throughout his career.
Billy Gunn had it - especially around the time of "special events."
Of course, HHH early on.
Jim Powers was also solid.
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^^ Very good list.
I'd add Ventura & Snuka.
Hennig, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, also looked good at many times throughout his career.
Billy Gunn had it - especially around the time of "special events."
Of course, HHH early on.
Jim Powers was also solid.
Ahhhh.....I knew I forgot a couple...see what happens when you don't pound back a coffee first thing? HHH, Ventura, Paul Roma & Jim Powers. Good call. Add...
Ken Patera
Don Muroco
Sylvain Granier
Rob Conway
Rene Dupree
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Ahhhh.....I knew I forgot a couple...see what happens when you don't pound back a coffee first thing? HHH, Ventura, Paul Roma & Jim Powers. Good call. Add...
Ken Patera
Don Muroco
Sylvain Granier
Rob Conway
Rene Dupree
Yeah, I forgot about Roma.
He looked phenomenal, especially when he tagged with Herc as "Power & Glory."
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Yeah, I forgot about Roma.
He looked phenomenal, especially when he tagged with Herc as "Power & Glory."
There's another one....Heurcules Hernandez.
Lol....Paul Roma......"The Horseman" ... wow...
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If you had a bodybuilding show, Luger would win hands down. After all, he was The Total Package. He had great legs for a wrestler, especially a taller one.
What is even more amazing is how he maintained that condition for twenty years. Unreal!
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If you had a bodybuilding show, Luger would win hands down. After all, he was The Total Package. He had great legs for a wrestler, especially a taller one.
What is even more amazing is how he maintained that condition for twenty years. Unreal!
That's because Luger trained like a bbdr. Not just whatever body part when ever or maintenence. Lugar always looked good.
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I remember seeing Heenan do an interview with him @ one of the early 90's PPV's (possibly RR) and he was training for the WBF Show. He had a red Golds top on (i think!) and he looked brick thick.
I also remember seeing Rick Martel around that time get into crazy shape coincidentally, id never seen him ripped (solid abs!) with a muscular physique before and was very impressed.
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oh and whilst he wasnt shredded, i think Dino Bravo deserves an honorable mention for being built like the back end of a single decker bus :)
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I remember seeing Heenan do an interview with him @ one of the early 90's PPV's (possibly RR) and he was training for the WBF Show. He had a red Golds top on (i think!) and he looked brick thick.
I also remember seeing Rick Martel around that time get into crazy shape coincidentally, id never seen him ripped (solid abs!) with a muscular physique before and was very impressed.
Martel was looking huge in 1990-1992. "Eat your heart out Andre Aggassi!" lol....
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Heenan: "Kerry Von Erich, man has a million $ body and a 10c brain"
Golden ;D
Jesse used this line on Warrior at WM5 too.
in fact, this would have been before Kerry's WWF run, so Heenan probably stole it from Jesse.
classic classic classic.
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I remember seeing Heenan do an interview with him @ one of the early 90's PPV's (possibly RR) and he was training for the WBF Show. He had a red Golds top on (i think!) and he looked brick thick.
I remember that. It was Wrestlemania 8...I was looking for that clip the other day and couldn't find it.
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Jesse used this line on Warrior at WM5 too.
in fact, this would have been before Kerry's WWF run, so Heenan probably stole it from Jesse.
classic classic classic.
I've heard that line & variations quite a few times before - including outside of wrestling.
But, yeah: it happens.
Piper's line about "Ric Flair dating two women at once so that after he falls asleep, they have someone to talk to," was a Rodney Dangerfield original.
Lawler was the worst for ripping off material.
I've seen a lot of his lines (including derivations) appear on joke sites.
The King is also an amateur magician, and I know he's used lines from other comic magicians, as well.
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Dynamite had quite a solid build at one time.
At 5'8 ft he weighed over 220 pounds in good condition.
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Dynamite had quite a solid build at one time.
At 5'8 ft he weighed over 220 pounds in good condition.
Good call.
IMO, Dyno looked his best after he & Davey jumped to All Japan.
There was one tour in particular which was the best he ever looked!
I wish I could remember some of the Bulldogs' opponents from those shows so I could look for them on Youtube.
Tom also looked very good after leaving the WWF and going back to work & book Stampede Wreslting for Stu.
IIRC, he was also working AJPW at the time, so there may have been some overlap there in the chronology.
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I've heard that line & variations quite a few times before - including outside of wrestling.
But, yeah: it happens.
Piper's line about "Ric Flair dating two women at once so that after he falls asleep, they have someone to talk to," was a Rodney Dangerfield original.
Lawler was the worst for ripping off material.
I've seen a lot of his lines (including derivations) appear on joke sites.
The King is also an amateur magician, and I know he's used lines from other comic magicians, as well.
The mention of Lawler and being a amateur magician reminded me that back in the old Mid-South, he used to throw fire-balls at opponents. Some of you old timers might remember that.
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The mention of Lawler and being a amateur magician reminded me that back in the old Mid-South, he used to throw fire-balls at opponents. Some of you old timers might remember that.
Wow, you’re taking me back, man.
I was a professional magician for about 8 years - even worked for a magic supplies dealer back in college.
I used to sell all that stuff: http://www.theatrefx.com/store/commerce.cgi?product=handheld_devices
Some wrestlers used the guns, while others used flint devices (even just basic, disposable Bic lighters) to ignite the flash cotton or paper.
Gotta love Jim & Hogan’s Havoc match: when the camera zoomed in on Hogan fumbling, trying desperately to get the flash cotton & lighter out of the Ziploc baggie, dripping sweat & oil all over it…then, the lighter wouldn’t spark…
Finally, he must’ve thought the paper was caught - it wasn’t - and threw at Hellwig…NOTHING!
Then, he somehow did manage to ignite it, but he didn’t throw it soon enough and the bulk of it went off in his hand, while a little piece made it about half-way to Jim‘s face.
FF to about 3:35
The timing for most of that match was off, but I wondered if that literal “misfire” ruined the finish enough that they had to ad-lib a new one.
At the time, WWF was good at those things with the old man himself often shouting orders to people in the back and through headsets - even to referees who sometimes wear an earpiece - on how to cover.
WCW was clueless.
It showed...
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BROTHER!!!
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Wow, you’re taking me back, man.
I was a professional magician for about 8 years - even worked for a magic supplies dealer back in college.
I used to sell all that stuff: http://www.theatrefx.com/store/commerce.cgi?product=handheld_devices
Some wrestlers used the guns, while others used flint devices (even just basic, disposable Bic lighters) to ignite the flash cotton or paper.
Gotta love Jim & Hogan’s Havoc match: when the camera zoomed in on Hogan fumbling, trying desperately to get the flash cotton & lighter out of the Ziploc baggie, dripping sweat & oil all over it…then, the lighter wouldn’t spark…
Finally, he must’ve thought the paper was caught - it wasn’t - and threw at Hellwig…NOTHING!
Then, he somehow did manage to ignite it, but he didn’t throw it soon enough and the bulk of it went off in his hand, while a little piece made it about half-way to Jim‘s face.
FF to about 3:35
The timing for most of that match was off, but I wondered if that literal “misfire” ruined the finish enough that they had to ad-lib a new one.
At the time, WWF was good at those things with the old man himself often shouting orders to people in the back and through headsets - even to referees who sometimes wear an earpiece - on how to cover.
WCW was clueless.
It showed...
I cringe the few times I watched that match....litterally...
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Eddie Guerrero after his car crash
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remember chase tatum. go on youtubey.com for chase tatum against the prototype. before that match you'll hear the world's worst ring announcer. and during the match the worst color commentator.
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remember chase tatum. go on youtubey.com for chase tatum against the prototype. before that match you'll hear the world's worst ring announcer. and during the match the worst color commentator.
Holy shit I remember that! Guy was huge, too huge to be just another jobber! Just another shame on WCW and how it was ran.
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I also thought Sean Ohare had the "it factor" but unfortunately screwed it up when he hit www. I would have loved to see him against Batista
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I also thought Sean Ohare had the "it factor" but unfortunately screwed it up when he hit www. I would have loved to see him against Batista
saw him perform live once, big man great build and a great athlete.
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I really liked the Jindrak/OHaire tag-team in WCW.... if not for EVERYTHING revolving around the nWo for way, way too long, they should have gotten a huge push.
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They had everything but charisma, which they could of worked on and got a bigger push..
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They had everything but charisma, which they could of worked on and got a bigger push..
I actually thought they did have a bit of charisma, kinda like the Midnight Express, it came thru in the ring, but they needed an old-school manager to get them over on the mic. That is one HUGE problem today. Feds don't want to use mgrs, instead they throw out bimbo/skanks, which while nice to look at, does little to nothing to get talent over in the long run. We need Cornette, Gary Hart, Humperdink, Dillon, etc...
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I actually thought they did have a bit of charisma, kinda like the Midnight Express, it came thru in the ring, but they needed an old-school manager to get them over on the mic. That is one HUGE problem today. Feds don't want to use mgrs, instead they throw out bimbo/skanks, which while nice to look at, does little to nothing to get talent over in the long run. We need Cornette, Gary Hart, Humperdink, Dillon, etc...
I agree with you, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to find someone capable of doing it.
Just as so many other aspects of the business have faded, the art of being an old-school manager may be COMPLETELY DEAD.
I only say that because it's been so long since they've used that kind of character.
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I agree with you, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to find someone capable of doing it.
Just as so many other aspects of the business have faded, the art of being an old-school manager may be COMPLETELY DEAD.
I only say that because it's been so long since they've used that kind of character.
It is dead, but only because the idiots running the show have let it. With all the born shit talkers in the world there has to be someone, somewhere who could be decent at it. The cool thing with the old-school managers is that they were often former wrestlers, and there are tons of guys who can still cut promos who could manage. AA comes to mind.
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Not a wrestler. A strength athlete that tried wrestling. Great build though
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What about Mason Ryan, may be the biggest best built wrestler I have seen....as always how is he missing the wellness test?
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What about Mason Ryan, may be the biggest best built wrestler I have seen....as always how is he missing the wellness test?
LOL...
I LOVE when this topic comes up!!
We've had some good discussions about it, too.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=369441.msg5252798#msg5252798
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Superstar Billy Graham, ( Wayne Coleman)
The first, the best and still the most imitated
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Superstar Billy Graham, ( Wayne Coleman)
The first, the best and still the most imitated
Wayne is that you??
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Wayne is that you??
The man of the hour,
The tower of power,
To sweet to be sour.
The men's regret,
The women's pet,
What you see is what you get,
What you don't see is better yet!
Not Wayne, just another fan of the man ;D
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The man of the hour,
The tower of power,
To sweet to be sour.
The men's regret,
The women's pet,
What you see is what you get,
What you don't see is better yet!
Not Wayne, just another fan of the man ;D
Lol!
Feast your eyes and fantasize!
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Lol!
Feast your eyes and fantasize!
"The arm wrestling champion of the universe"
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"The arm wrestling champion of the universe"
lmao. gold
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Can't stop.....
"There I was lounging by the pool,
Getting a tan and looking cool,
Drinking a coke and eating Fritos,
And being attacked by giant mosquitos" 8)
Regarding the outdoors in Minnesota
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Can't stop.....
"There I was lounging by the pool,
Getting a tan and looking cool,
Drinking a coke and eating Fritos,
And being attacked by giant mosquitos" 8)
Regarding the outdoors in Minnesota
Lol any more?
Superstar always had the best rhymes, preferred his over Steiners any day.
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I eat T-bone steaks,
I lift barbell plates,
I am sweeter than German chocolate cake.
I am the reflection of perfection,
The number one selection.
8)