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Title: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: Nails on January 06, 2010, 04:30:17 PM
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What do Russell and Leaf have in common? Vegas, baby!

By Doug Farrar

Remember how Jim Mora the Elder and the Indianapolis Colts' front office finally made the decision to draft Peyton Manning(notes) over Ryan Leaf in 1998? When the Colts, who had the first pick in the 1998 draft, interviewed both quarterbacks, they got very different responses to the $100 bazillion question: What are you going to do when we give you all that money? Manning seemed more interested in banking the check and getting to work in the film room, while Leaf said that the first thing he'd do is take his buddies to Vegas. Case closed.

Now, Oakland Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell(notes) is bringing back the spirit of Leaf (in a super-sized version - this guy is now bigger than many of the defensive linemen who find him so easy to tackle), and he seems to be interested in putting Al Davis on the hook for a similarly huge error. Reports indicate that Russell missed the Raiders' final team meeting of the 2009 season. Not a big deal if, as it was originally believed, Russell missed the meeting for "personal reasons". It's a bit more of a big deal if, as we have now learned, Russell took off for Las Vegas in lieu of that final meeting.

Selected first overall in the 2007 draft, Russell has failed to distinguish himself in any positive way, except that he's never been a team-killer or directly flaunted Davis' Commitment to Excellence (whatever that means these days) enough for the man himself to call Russell out. Lane Kiffin and Tom Cable, the team's last two coaches, have come out publicly against Russell's production and work ethic, but Davis has been his quarterback's staunch defender. That may be about to change.

The Raiders have a long history of players who studied their playbooks by the light of the closest bar, but those were great players who actually studied their playbooks. Russell has done nothing whatsoever to prove that he's interested in transcending what has been a horrible early campaign. In 2008, he finished dead last among qualifying quarterbacks in passer rating and Quarterback DYAR, making Bruce Gradkowski(notes) look like Joe Montana in the process. In other words, whether you prefer traditional stats or the new sabermetrics, JaMarcus Russell is the worst quarterback in pro football.

It's tough to believe now, but Manning and Leaf were once considered equal NFL prospects coming out of Tennessee and Washington State, respectively, and there were those who believed Leaf to have the better physical skill set. Over a decade later, Manning may wind up as the best quarterback ever, and Leaf is an indictment-filled bust -- perhaps the most colossal mistake in NFL history.

Until now. Remember, the San Diego Chargers took Leaf with the second pick in 1998. Only the Raiders, with JaMarcus Russell, can boast the first-overall selection of a quarterback so uninterested in the betterment of his team, or his own development as a player.


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: gordiano on January 06, 2010, 04:44:06 PM
Pathetic. Another idiot who has the world by the balls, and is throwing it away.


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: ChristopherA on January 06, 2010, 07:07:03 PM
Cue racist comments in 3...2....1


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: Earl1972 on January 06, 2010, 07:23:47 PM
was he really that good in college or did he just look good in the bowl game against notre dame?

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Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: lax on January 07, 2010, 05:35:57 AM
'Jamarcus'...heh heh heh


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 07, 2010, 05:42:51 AM
Maybe he'll go skateboarding with Todd Marinovich once his "career" is over. He'll be able to hitchike from Oakland to Newport Beach I guess.


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: lax on January 07, 2010, 05:48:36 AM
was he really that good in college or did he just look good in the bowl game against notre dame?

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don't think he was that good...more of scouts seeing his potential...which will no doubt never be realized


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: nukkaready on January 07, 2010, 05:49:20 AM
Low IQ... can't expect more.


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: lax on January 07, 2010, 05:51:15 AM
you think he'd be embarassed


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: CalvinH on January 07, 2010, 06:05:12 AM
was he really that good in college or did he just look good in the bowl game against notre dame?

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Bowl game and scouts loved how far he could throw the ball.


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 07, 2010, 07:18:05 AM
nikker is dope. He will OD in a few years.


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: johnnynoname on January 07, 2010, 07:19:03 AM
wait-this thread isn't about xfactor

ohsnapzzzzzz


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on January 07, 2010, 08:52:03 AM
Give a fool a few million and the two will soon be parted. (Another brother millionare that can't seem to kick the hood habit)


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 07, 2010, 08:59:14 AM
was he really that good in college or did he just look good in the bowl game against notre dame?

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Yes, that is why "AL PICKED HIM" Al likes someone with a cannon for a arm and that is Russel. Jamarucs cannot hit a receiver to save his life and has the lowest percentage of all QB'S and that is why he got benched! Jamarcus is fat, out of shape, slow and no work ethic! He is getting paid Millions to sit on the bench. Norte Dame had do secondary and all he did was throw bombs against them. He will be broke in a few years and living back in Louisiana.  ;)


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on January 07, 2010, 09:09:34 AM
Yes, that is why "AL PICKED HIM" Al likes someone with a cannon for a arm and that is Russel. Jamarucs cannot hit a receiver to save his life and has the lowest percentage of all QB'S and that is why he got benched! Jamarcus is fat, out of shape, slow and no work ethic! He is getting paid Millions to sit on the bench. Norte Dame had do secondary and all he did was throw bombs against them. He will be broke in a few years and living back in Louisiana.  ;)

He is actually from Mobile, AL. The hood of Mobile that is.


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: Tre on January 07, 2010, 09:10:35 AM
ANYONE would've looked good against Notre Dame that day.

The guy is not a natural athlete.  He's fat, very slow, has girl hands and has an *extremely* low football IQ.  That's not someone capable of being even a journeyman QB in the NFL.  I don't know how long he's been playing QB, but he's *never* learned to lead a receiver to the open field. 

I swear to god, my 7-year-old daughter is more accurate and throws with better timing than this fool.  If a 7-year-old knows to put the ball where the receiver *will* be, why doesn't Russell?  Because he's a fucking idiot, that's why. 


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: Tre on January 07, 2010, 09:12:11 AM

The earring thing on the sidelines is a real issue for me, too. 

Guys can make whatever fashion statement they want after the game.  But allowing players to wear them to practice and games shows a lack of discipline.



Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: marty31672 on January 07, 2010, 09:17:10 AM
jamarcus russell was good in college he just got drafted by a bad team
he had no chance to develop properly in oakland
same situation with jason campbell and bradly quinn


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: jesusbod on January 07, 2010, 09:20:14 AM
jamarcus russell was good in college he just got drafted by a bad team
he had no chance to develop properly in oakland
same situation with jason campbell and bradly quinn

He played on a good college team.. He has a strong arm, but that doesn't win games unless you are going to throw hail mary's all game long. He is dumb as a box of rocks.. Shitty Team, Shitty player= Shitty results


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: marty31672 on January 07, 2010, 09:23:21 AM
He played on a good college team.. He has a strong arm, but that doesn't win games unless you are going to throw hail mary's all game long. He is dumb as a box of rocks.. Shitty Team, Shitty player= Shitty results

no he also played good when he was training in arizona before the draft
he is a good player put in a bad situation the team is dragging him down
not just a strong arm but the strongest arm in football


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on January 07, 2010, 09:37:52 AM
Has an absolute rocket for an arm and can put the ball in tight spots on occassion. But he completely lacks it between the ears and has no dedication to staying in top physical shape.

He might change his approach and dedication to getting better but I don't think that will happen until the Raiders release him. And they will after the 2010 season. He's going to get another shot to start, no question about it. When you pay a #1 pick all that money, as an owner you're forced to evaluate his possible long term potential and give him as many chances as possible.




Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: Nails on January 07, 2010, 09:46:57 AM
Me being a die hard raider fan, When they were in Los Angeles, my uncle would take us to raider games atleast 4 or 5 times a year, I went to the last Raider Game in Los Angeles, and i cant wait for Los Angeles to get a new team so i can finally lay to rest the raiders if they dont return,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmtyqOGv4jo


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: Nails on January 07, 2010, 09:50:49 AM
The earring thing on the sidelines is a real issue for me, too. 

Guys can make whatever fashion statement they want after the game.  But allowing players to wear them to practice and games shows a lack of discipline.



I totally agree with you, Classy, Respected, World Championship organizations like the New York yankees have rules like these, Players cant have beards, Cant have long hair, Or wear jewelry on the field, YOU are paid to respect the uniform


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on January 07, 2010, 09:51:42 AM
Me being a die hard raider fan, When they were in Los Angeles, my uncle would take us to raider games atleast 4 or 5 times a year, I went to the last Raider Game in Los Angeles, and i cant wait for Los Angeles to get a new team so i can finally lay to rest the raiders if they dont return,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmtyqOGv4jo

You might get the Jaguars if Jacksonville continues to have trouble selling tickets to their games....


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: Nails on January 07, 2010, 10:01:25 AM
at this point, Ill even cheer for the hated Chargers, Miss the tailgates and Spiting the shit before kick off, Its fun to hit up the USC and UCLA games for the young college chicks, but i mess the old drunk cougers at the NFL games

Cue in Matthew McConaughey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo4kDrWBa6c


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: marty31672 on January 07, 2010, 10:33:50 AM
The earring thing on the sidelines is a real issue for me, too. 

Guys can make whatever fashion statement they want after the game.  But allowing players to wear them to practice and games shows a lack of discipline.

Give me a break...

Let me guess, you'd also like them to cover up their tattoos with garments.

Are you neutered "Tre"?


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: lax on January 07, 2010, 01:20:46 PM
The earring thing on the sidelines is a real issue for me, too. 

Guys can make whatever fashion statement they want after the game.  But allowing players to wear them to practice and games shows a lack of discipline.



absolutely


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: Tre on January 07, 2010, 02:11:48 PM
Give me a break...

Let me guess, you'd also like them to cover up their tattoos with garments.

Are you neutered "Tre"?

While black pro athletes do look unbelievably stupid with tattoos, there's a real problem when boys are being raised to be overly concerned about how 'pretty' they are. 

White America loves seeing that bullshit happening in Black America, truth. 


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: 240 is Back on January 07, 2010, 02:17:30 PM
"You might get the Jaguars if Jacksonville continues to have trouble selling tickets to their games...."


You think they'll do something silly like draft Tebow in the 1st round?


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: Nails on January 07, 2010, 02:32:45 PM
Tebow might not be a TOP quarterback pick, But he is a Number 1 football pick, anyone who drafts him will have a hard worker that bust his ass on and off the field and will give 100% every day.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SGbAoq5YLQw/Rx_gKFVvmNI/AAAAAAAAAMk/OQeC_uVTRlo/s320/tim-tebow-girl.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lZYYSIIJ3rk/SlaLYdTEYAI/AAAAAAAABzc/PycvJcNNCZM/s400/tim-tebow-girlfriend-2.jpg)

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Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: Tre on January 07, 2010, 02:40:04 PM
Tebow might not be a TOP quarterback pick, But he is a Number 1 football pick, anyone who drafts him will have a hard worker that bust his ass on and off the field and will give 100% every day.

Does he end up as a tight end or wide receiver?


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: Nails on January 07, 2010, 03:07:03 PM
Definitely tight end, he is way to thick to run wide receiver patterns in the NFL any Corner back would be able to cover him, but he maybe able to go up against the linebackers


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 yea
Post by: Tre on January 07, 2010, 03:57:13 PM
Definitely tight end, he is way to thick to run wide receiver patterns in the NFL any Corner back would be able to cover him, but he maybe able to go up against the linebackers

Well, he's a good athlete, has a great work ethic, and most importantly, he's a good person. 

This is the kind of guy you want in your organization:

(http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GS&Date=20091211&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=912119976&Ref=AR&MaxW=600&border=0)

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091211/articles/912119976?Title=Va-girl-Tebow-s-date-to-award-show


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on January 07, 2010, 04:51:22 PM
"Playoffs?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: claymore on January 07, 2010, 06:58:41 PM
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What do Russell and Leaf have in common? Vegas, baby!

By Doug Farrar

Remember how Jim Mora the Elder and the Indianapolis Colts' front office finally made the decision to draft Peyton Manning(notes) over Ryan Leaf in 1998? When the Colts, who had the first pick in the 1998 draft, interviewed both quarterbacks, they got very different responses to the $100 bazillion question: What are you going to do when we give you all that money? Manning seemed more interested in banking the check and getting to work in the film room, while Leaf said that the first thing he'd do is take his buddies to Vegas. Case closed.

Now, Oakland Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell(notes) is bringing back the spirit of Leaf (in a super-sized version - this guy is now bigger than many of the defensive linemen who find him so easy to tackle), and he seems to be interested in putting Al Davis on the hook for a similarly huge error. Reports indicate that Russell missed the Raiders' final team meeting of the 2009 season. Not a big deal if, as it was originally believed, Russell missed the meeting for "personal reasons". It's a bit more of a big deal if, as we have now learned, Russell took off for Las Vegas in lieu of that final meeting.

Selected first overall in the 2007 draft, Russell has failed to distinguish himself in any positive way, except that he's never been a team-killer or directly flaunted Davis' Commitment to Excellence (whatever that means these days) enough for the man himself to call Russell out. Lane Kiffin and Tom Cable, the team's last two coaches, have come out publicly against Russell's production and work ethic, but Davis has been his quarterback's staunch defender. That may be about to change.

The Raiders have a long history of players who studied their playbooks by the light of the closest bar, but those were great players who actually studied their playbooks. Russell has done nothing whatsoever to prove that he's interested in transcending what has been a horrible early campaign. In 2008, he finished dead last among qualifying quarterbacks in passer rating and Quarterback DYAR, making Bruce Gradkowski(notes) look like Joe Montana in the process. In other words, whether you prefer traditional stats or the new sabermetrics, JaMarcus Russell is the worst quarterback in pro football.

It's tough to believe now, but Manning and Leaf were once considered equal NFL prospects coming out of Tennessee and Washington State, respectively, and there were those who believed Leaf to have the better physical skill set. Over a decade later, Manning may wind up as the best quarterback ever, and Leaf is an indictment-filled bust -- perhaps the most colossal mistake in NFL history.

Until now. Remember, the San Diego Chargers took Leaf with the second pick in 1998. Only the Raiders, with JaMarcus Russell, can boast the first-overall selection of a quarterback so uninterested in the betterment of his team, or his own development as a player.


Typical...


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: 240 is Back on January 07, 2010, 06:59:41 PM
tebow stilll claiming that virgin card thing?


Title: Re: So MUCH Money, So little talent and Brains, i bet he goes bankrupt in 10 years
Post by: TrapsMcLats on January 07, 2010, 07:10:22 PM
Cue racist comments in 3...2....1

you mean validity and truth?