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Title: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Listen Now)
Post by: Andrew1 on March 22, 2010, 09:33:18 PM
Announcement - Episode #184

Pumping Iron Creator George Butler Visits PBW (Replay Now Available!)

33 Years after he introduced Arnold to the world......meet the one & only George Butler!
 
In 1972, while covering The Mr. Universe contest for Life Magazine, George Butler began a journey that would lead to the 1977 release of a documentary film called Pumping Iron.  The film not only chonicled the 1975 Mr. Olympia (Pretoria, South Africa) but it also introduced the world to a young Austrian named Arnold and a determined 23 year-old from from Brooklyn named Lou. - Presented by MuscleTech, "Pro Bodybuilding Weekly" is pleased to present a special visit with Pumping Iron creator George Butler for a look back at his cult-classic and the overwheliming impact his film had on the sport of bodybuilding and the subsequent success of its two biggest stars, Schwarzenegger & Ferrigno. - LIVE on  Monday, March 29th at 8pm ET.

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Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2010, 04:35:18 AM
If 'Pumping Iron' is never made, where are Arnold and Louie today?

I'm betting Arnold is still a rich and successful businessman, quietly living in South California.  Probably way more involved in the sport.  Maybe even working as Athlete's Rep!

I'm betting Louie never does the Incredible Hulk.  Instead, I'm betting he wins 5 or 6 Olympia titles.  I'm betting he completely dominates that 'swimmers era' from 1976 until 1983.

I'm betting the sport of bodybuilding is a lot smaller.  There is no getbig, in such a terrible world.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: Armstrong on March 23, 2010, 07:25:59 AM
Pumping Iron forced Louie to become the Hulk instead of winning a bunch of Olympias.  No question about it.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: regmac on March 23, 2010, 11:28:45 AM
So there was no show yesterday?


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: kyomu on March 23, 2010, 02:25:40 PM
I had honour to meet him in world gym venice CA in 1993. 8)


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: Aaron Singerman on March 23, 2010, 04:01:39 PM
So there was no show yesterday?

No show this week... I'm looking forward to George Butler next week!


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 23, 2010, 04:57:59 PM
I have the book a classic for sure.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: regmac on March 23, 2010, 06:25:10 PM
No show this week... I'm looking forward to George Butler next week!
Not to disrespect oldtimers but I only like the modern stuff.  But thats me.  I mean PI was a cool movie  but after seeing it, once was enough.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: Tito24 on March 23, 2010, 06:28:12 PM
why does this topic appear like this on my google homepage?

Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums
Did Arnold Sleep With George Butler?


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: regmac on March 23, 2010, 06:29:21 PM
why does this topic appear like this on my google homepage?

Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums
Did Arnold Sleep With George Butler?
Maybe once.   But he was high back then.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: Tito24 on March 23, 2010, 06:49:57 PM
here is what i see on my google homepage...

The topic there is titled, " Did Arnold Sleep With George Butler?"


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2010, 09:10:53 PM
I wonder what matters more to Big Lou today.... the Incredible Hulk $, or the many titles he missed out on?  ???


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: LatsMcGee on March 24, 2010, 02:25:23 AM
I wonder what matters more to Big Lou today.... the Incredible Hulk $, or the many titles he missed out on?  ???

All that matters to Lou is your 20 bucks, kid. 


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: regmac on March 24, 2010, 10:50:54 AM
All that matters to Lou is your 20 bucks, kid. 
Ha  haaaaaaa. I keep running into Lou.   I p'd him off at Golds once. Then he came by MY OFFICE  (law enforcement) to squeal on someone. When my co-worker introduced him to me   his face was cherry red  and he mummbled something like  "Yaaa member u frum galds"  We ended up on a flight back to LA from Dallas also. The pilots asked for an autograph   Lou said he'd give them one if they let him on the plane first.  Before a lady in a wheelchair!  Same ole Lou!   I wish I could have the belt his dad beat his ass with    he may have givin it to Arnold or Serge Nubret.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: mossel on March 26, 2010, 04:33:41 AM
Awesome movie... impossible to remake with the current pro's...


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: 240 is Back on March 26, 2010, 06:13:41 AM
I bet without this movie to culminate Arnold's career and give him that shot to go out on top... Lou would have come into his prime and beat Arnold once or twice.  There's no way Lou loses to Arnold in 1980 or 1981 if they both stayed in Bbing.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Monday 3/29)
Post by: AVBG on March 28, 2010, 04:50:21 PM
Dan should ask who's currently got the rights to the movie and the unused footage? Is it Arnold? And why doesn't put out the unused footage?


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Monday 3/29)
Post by: mossel on March 28, 2010, 11:59:27 PM
Dan should ask who's currently got the rights to the movie and the unused footage? Is it Arnold? And why doesn't put out the unused footage?

Great question!


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Tonight)
Post by: Brakus on March 29, 2010, 09:42:49 AM


 I agree...great question!! We all want to see the unused footage and its been locked away for no reason... George should tell us straight up of why the footage hasnt been released yet!


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Tonight)
Post by: 240 is Back on March 29, 2010, 01:00:30 PM
yeah, my guess is that Arnold wouldn't benefit much at all from such a release.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Tonight)
Post by: MB on March 29, 2010, 07:01:39 PM
Good interview, but George was slightly off saying Lou is 6'8" tall.  Bob tried to correct him and mentioned that Lou is 6'5".  George then came back and said Lou is 6'7".   


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Listen Now)
Post by: David M on March 30, 2010, 07:33:05 AM
Lou Ferrigno is actually 6 foot 10.


When he is standing on the stack of money he gets for signing autographs.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Listen Now)
Post by: AVBG on March 30, 2010, 01:45:33 PM
Great interview with Butler.. He's a cunnning geezer.. Lol @ him correcting Chick about Ferrigno's height!

His answers weren't what I expected to hear.. Very coy about what he still retains from the period. This is a must for a re listen!


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Listen Now)
Post by: AVBG on March 30, 2010, 01:58:05 PM
I liked the power play with Bob (correcting the height of Lou)..

 The re invention of Matty Ferrigno was different mentioning a "wonderful" relationship.

It was interesting hearing how much of a control freak Arnold is.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Listen Now)
Post by: Chick on March 30, 2010, 02:47:27 PM
I liked the power play with Bob (correcting the height of Lou)..

 The re invention of Matty Ferrigno was different mentioning a "wonderful" relationship.

It was interesting hearing how much of a control freak Arnold is.


Power play he LOST!!

maybe George is just really short..?


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Listen Now)
Post by: regmac on March 30, 2010, 03:50:11 PM
Power play he LOST!!

maybe George is just really short..?
Hey Bob is Lou still p'd they used a shorter guy...without his permission?


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Listen Now)
Post by: Chick on March 30, 2010, 05:19:08 PM
who cares....his problem, not mine


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Listen Now)
Post by: regmac on March 30, 2010, 07:03:58 PM
who cares....his problem, not mine
LOL's  I agree.    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Monday 3/29)
Post by: The_Infidel on March 31, 2010, 12:55:05 AM
Dan should ask who's currently got the rights to the movie and the unused footage? Is it Arnold? And why doesn't put out the unused footage?

Fuck that, what he really should have asked Butler about was Arnold's true height.  That's what people in the bodybuilding industry are dying to know.  It's a waste of an interview when you leave intriguing and relevant questions like that on the table.  What a shame.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Listen Now)
Post by: lastrep on March 31, 2010, 04:31:34 AM
Arnold has all the right to the film and all the uncut footage. There is talk about finally using some of that (in length this time, not like the 30 minute they added for the 25th anniversary dvd) in the BluRay version.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Monday 3/29)
Post by: Chick on March 31, 2010, 10:27:08 AM
Fuck that, what he really should have asked Butler about was Arnold's true height.  That's what people in the bodybuilding industry are dying to know.  It's a waste of an interview when you leave intriguing and relevant questions like that on the table.  What a shame.

Well, lets see...he thought Louie was 6'8...does that give you a hint? LOL


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Monday 3/29)
Post by: regmac on March 31, 2010, 11:15:47 AM
Well, lets see...he thought Louie was 6'8...does that give you a hint? LOL
I remember a story way back when Cory Everson was called to a Hollywood studio to film for a movie. The producer thought she was 6-2 and about at least 180. When she showed up a month after an Olympia (weighting 150 I assume), the producer was shocked she looked petite and was actually 15 lbs bigger than she was in the photo.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Monday 3/29)
Post by: The_Infidel on March 31, 2010, 12:10:34 PM
Well, lets see...he thought Louie was 6'8...does that give you a hint? LOL

LOL

Seriously though, it was a really good interview.  I'm a huge fan of Butler's Arnold photos. I actually own one of his prints and I've snipped a ton of them out of magazines over the last 20 years.  I'm also one of those guys who has seen Pumping Iron like 600 times.  I don't think you can overstate George Butler's importance to bodybuilding. 


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Listen Now)
Post by: 240 is Back on March 31, 2010, 02:41:20 PM
on the cory post:
being ripped makes a person look 20 pounds bigger in pics.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Monday 3/29)
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on March 31, 2010, 07:30:51 PM
LOL

Seriously though, it was a really good interview.  I'm a huge fan of Butler's Arnold photos. I actually own one of his prints and I've snipped a ton of them out of magazines over the last 20 years.  I'm also one of those guys who has seen Pumping Iron like 600 times.  I don't think you can overstate George Butler's importance to bodybuilding.  

yeh, gotta agree with bob on this one, i dont knnow if george butler has all his faculties.....the most awkward part of the interview was when butler corrected bob and said "no, louie is 6'8"......which of course if way way off......and bob had to be polite and just try to change the subject.


whats wrong with george anyway, he voice was very weak and laborious....??


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Listen Now)
Post by: AVBG on March 31, 2010, 07:44:02 PM
Bob, Butler got you good... He had the last word about the height. No shame you're still pretty big 'round here mate.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: noworries on April 01, 2010, 01:23:55 AM
If 'Pumping Iron' is never made, where are Arnold and Louie today?

I'm betting Arnold is still a rich and successful businessman, quietly living in South California.  Probably way more involved in the sport.  Maybe even working as Athlete's Rep!

I'm betting Louie never does the Incredible Hulk.  Instead, I'm betting he wins 5 or 6 Olympia titles.  I'm betting he completely dominates that 'swimmers era' from 1976 until 1983.

I'm betting the sport of bodybuilding is a lot smaller.  There is no getbig, in such a terrible world.

Pumping Iron came out after Stay Hungry and Hercules in new York.  Hollywood had already discovered Arnold.  Pumping helped him but ultimately he would have made it anyway.  If anything Pumping Iron helped bodybuilding more than Arnold.


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Listen Now)
Post by: TRIX on April 02, 2010, 11:15:45 PM
too be honest, i couldn't understand nor hear shit from george lucas


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Listen Now)
Post by: Chick on April 03, 2010, 04:06:44 PM
too be honest, i couldn't understand nor hear shit from george lucas

That would make sense...we were talking to someone else


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on April 03, 2010, 04:39:13 PM
Pumping Iron came out after Stay Hungry and Hercules in new York.  Hollywood had already discovered Arnold.  Pumping helped him but ultimately he would have made it anyway.  If anything Pumping Iron helped bodybuilding more than Arnold.


that is a very good point, and it compleatly lays to waste bob and dans hypothesis that without george butler there would be no arnold as a movie star.

just compleatly false,,,,


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: Chick on April 03, 2010, 04:45:29 PM

that is a very good point, and it compleatly lays to waste bob and dans hypothesis that without george butler there would be no arnold as a movie star.

just compleatly false,,,,

First, I never said that, you may want to go back and actually listen this time...

Second, while both those movies preceeded PI, both were panned...badly, by any and all critic/ reviews...the movies bombed, and if you listened to what George was saying, the problem with securing dollars for the movie, WERE those movies that Arnold was in.....

Pumping Iron made Arnold a star because people saw his personality and charisma, not his acting ability...


Title: Re: "Pumping Iron" Creator GEORGE BUTLER Visits PBW (Next Monday 3/29)
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on April 03, 2010, 04:49:25 PM
First, I never said that, you may want to go back and actually listen this time...

Second, while both those movies preceeded PI, both were panned...badly, by any and all critic/ reviews...the movies bombed, and if you listened to what George was saying, the problem with securing dollars for the movie, WERE those movies that Arnold was in.....

Pumping Iron made Arnold a star because people saw his personality and charisma, not his acting ability...

thats actually a very good point as well,....the first two movies did not showcase who arnold was, he looked like another muscleman.....and pumping iron opened the public's eyes to the cult of personality that was arnold schwarzenegger

bob chick putting me in my place tonight....