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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Wrestling Board => Topic started by: Captain Equipoise on September 29, 2010, 02:38:46 PM
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Mine would have to be Nails, who feuded with the (RIP Big Boss Man in the early 90's..I always thought he was one of the coolest when he came out..
(http://www.lobsterbush.com/vintagewwf/singles2/nailz1.jpg)
(http://www.highspots.com/images/images_125/zzzzd94m_WWF_Jan1993_L.gif)
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Plus he kicked VKM's ass for real, so that makes him good people. ;D
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He kicked the old man's ass & then sued him for harassment!
Nailz was a "locker room hero" for a quite a while.
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He kicked the old man's ass & then sued him for harassment!
Nailz was a "locker room hero" for a quite a while.
Hell yeah! I need a t-shirt referring to him.
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He grabbed Vince by the throat and chocked him until he was blue in the face. It took Pat Patterson, John Nord (aka, Berzerker), Gerald Brisco & Robert Remus (aka, SGT Slaughter) to get Nailz off McMahon. Apparantly it was over his SS 1992 payoff. He rec'd a check for like 5 grand while Undertaker got 500,000.
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He grabbed Vince by the throat and chocked him until he was blue in the face. It took Pat Patterson, John Nord (aka, Berzerker), Gerald Brisco & Robert Remus (aka, SGT Slaughter) to get Nailz off McMahon. Apparantly it was over his SS 1992 payoff. He rec'd a check for like 5 grand while Undertaker got 500,000.
too bad Vince's lackeys rescued him.
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too bad Vince's lackeys rescued him.
He would have strangled Vince to death had they not.
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He would have strangled Vince to death had they not.
One can only dream..... ;D
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What was the scuffle about ?? can anyone refresh me..
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What was the scuffle about ?? can anyone refresh me..
VKM shafted him on pay for his match with Undertaker.
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What was the scuffle about ?? can anyone refresh me..
Nailz was pissed at Vince because he saw the Undertaker's summerslam 1992 payoff which was 500,000. Kamala who wrestled the Undertaker only recieved 13,000 and Nailz who wrestled in the second match got 5,000.
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I had no idea that Taker pulled in that kind of dough for any single appearance - especially that early in his WWF tenure!
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I liked Al Snow's Avatar gimmick. In that character, Snow wrestled a very fluid, technical style. As a bjj guy, I could appreciate it. Obviously, the "WWE Universe" felt otherwise.
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I liked Al Snow's Avatar gimmick. In that character, Snow wrestled a very fluid, technical style. As a bjj guy, I could appreciate it. Obviously, the "WWE Universe" felt otherwise.
Funny.
That was shortly before guys like Angle & Benoit caught on.
For a fairly brief period, WWF was apparently (and believably) discouraging their talent from using too much amateur style in their matches.
Then, as guys like Haas, Benjamin, and Lesnar came up the ranks, I think management learned that those guys lent a great deal of realism & "legitimacy" to the previously hokey product.
Ross even began encouraging young hopefuls to acquire a foundation of amateur skills before pursuing the pro's.
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Nailz was pissed at Vince because he saw the Undertaker's summerslam 1992 payoff which was 500,000. Kamala who wrestled the Undertaker only recieved 13,000 and Nailz who wrestled in the second match got 5,000.
I would have been pissed too, VM sounds like dana white! hahaha
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I'm guessing the champ during 92's SS was either Flair or Macho.
I wonder what their payoffs were.
For WMIII - and I'm sure other events - Hogan made more than all the other talent combined.
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I'm guessing the champ during 92's SS was either Flair or Macho.
I wonder what their payoffs were.
For WMIII - and I'm sure other events - Hogan made more than all the other talent combined.
Hogan paved the way for Vince to make it big..this I can somewhat understand why he got so much $$$$
no other wrestler in the 80's had as much charisma and popularity as Hogan, no one
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Hogan paved the way for Vince to make it big..this I can somewhat understand why he got so much $$$$
no other wrestler in the 80's had as much charisma and popularity as Hogan, no one
Oh, I agree.
Nobody had Hogan's charisma, and nobody had Vince's vision.
Neither could have done what they did without the other.
Hogan worked at the top of every territory he went to.
But, prior to the old man taking over the company/industry, the "top" was very limited.
Likewise, Vince could easily have put someone else in Hogan’s spot, but they very likely would never have done the job Hogan did.
Remember that Vince tried several new incarnations of “the golden child” over the years: Sid, Luger, Warrior - none of them had it.
It only worked because of BOTH men.
Having said that, Vince has been both the best AND worst thing to happen to wrestling.
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I'm guessing the champ during 92's SS was either Flair or Macho.
I wonder what their payoffs were.
For WMIII - and I'm sure other events - Hogan made more than all the other talent combined.
Flair in early 1992, Savage in mid 1992 and then Hart for the remainder of the year.
I know for a fact from my "source" that the major players get a sick payday at ppv events and they command a large number of the gate during house shows IF they tour.
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I'm just surprised that Taker was considered a major player at that time.
He hadn't been with the company all that long, and his biggest feud going was only with Kamala.
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Remember that Vince tried several new incarnations of “the golden child” over the years: Sid, Luger, Warrior - none of them had it.
For about a minute, Vince thought this guy was gonna be the next Hogan. Looking at him, you can see why.
I actually saw Tom Magee in person at a gym in Manhattan. I've never had someone make me feel so physically insignificant. At the time, I was in my early 20s, 6'3" 215 natty. Magee made me look like a child, 6'6" 270, zero bodyfat, barndoor shoulders, no waist.
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Oh, I agree.
Nobody had Hogan's charisma, and nobody had Vince's vision.
Neither could have done what they did without the other.
Hogan worked at the top of every territory he went to.
But, prior to the old man taking over the company/industry, the "top" was very limited.
Likewise, Vince could easily have put someone else in Hogan’s spot, but they very likely would never have done the job Hogan did.
Remember that Vince tried several new incarnations of “the golden child” over the years: Sid, Luger, Warrior - none of them had it.
It only worked because of BOTH men.
Having said that, Vince has been both the best AND worst thing to happen to wrestling.
Agree totally.. Hogan understood the dynamics and how to play/control the crowd...he was a master..when you have 70,000 people in an arena plus millions at home copying his moves (the hand to the ear thing) you're on to something, he also for a huge guy was a great face, inspiring kids to train, take their vitamins, etc.
You don't usually think of a 6'7, 320lb guy as a face, lol
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Funny.
That was shortly before guys like Angle & Benoit caught on.
For a fairly brief period, WWF was apparently (and believably) discouraging their talent from using too much amateur style in their matches.
Then, as guys like Haas, Benjamin, and Lesnar came up the ranks, I think management learned that those guys lent a great deal of realism & "legitimacy" to the previously hokey product.
Ross even began encouraging young hopefuls to acquire a foundation of amateur skills before pursuing the pro's.
current wrestlers jack swagger and dolf ziggler are also supposed to have real college wrestling backgrounds.
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I remember only reading about Hogan in mags for a long time, all the way back to his AWA days, and thinking wow, would love to see him wrestle. I went over to a friend of my dad's house who had a satellite to watch him......just didn't "get it" as I was raised on Flair, Valentine, Blackjack Mulligan, Steamboat, etc... and Hogan just seemed so cartoonish and the Hulking-up was the clincher.
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Hogan deserved every penny he got because he made wrestling what it is. He filled the arenas night after night and made McMahon rich.
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Hogan deserved every penny he got because he made wrestling what it is. He filled the arenas night after night and made McMahon rich.
Very true.....he turned it into shit, imo..... ;D
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Insofar as what Vince was looking to do with/to the wrestling industry - the direction he wanted to take it - Hogan delivered better than probably anyone else was capable of doing at that time.
That said, there were & are plenty of people who don’t like what was done, and thus, don’t like the Hulkster or the old man.
Traditionalists who were raised on champions like Harley Race, Terry Funk, and Ric Flair likely scoff at the circus that was the WWF.
But, you can’t argue with success.
Vince’s vision reached the most people, and that’s why his product put the most asses in the most seats, and it‘s why everyone else has gone out of business while he has persevered…PERIOD!
I can’t stand Jim Carey and Will Ferrell, but most people do seem to like them.
Regardless of what I think, those two tards command $25+ million per picture.
And, I’m sure that neither they, nor their studios give a rat’s ass what I think because they're too busy counting their money.
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Insofar as what Vince was looking to do with/to the wrestling industry - the direction he wanted to take it - Hogan delivered better than probably anyone else was capable of doing at that time.
That said, there were & are plenty of people who don’t like what was done, and thus, don’t like the Hulkster or the old man.
Traditionalists who were raised on champions like Harley Race, Terry Funk, and Ric Flair likely scoff at the circus that was the WWF.
But, you can’t argue with success.
Vince’s vision reached the most people, and that’s why his product put the most asses in the most seats, and it‘s why everyone else has gone out of business while he has persevered…PERIOD!
I can’t stand Jim Carey and Will Ferrell, but most people do seem to like them.
Regardless of what I think, those two tards command $25+ million per picture.
And, I’m sure that neither they, nor their studios give a rat’s ass what I think because they're too busy counting their money.
Oh, I won't disagree with VKM and Hogans financial success, but they killed the sport for me. A good comparison, and I don't know if you follow it, but NASCAR. In the south everybody followed it, at least casually for years....throw keg parties during races, etc... but once corporate America took the sport over in the 90's it has turned to shit. tons of money, but that isn't how I measure whether something is a "good product" or not.
And your acting analogy is perfect. Hogan is like Arnie during the 80's and Flair, Funk, Race are like DeNiro, Nicholson and Newman.
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tons of money, but that isn't how I measure whether something is a "good product" or not.
A product is only good to a person if he or she likes it and/or benefits from it.
Vince would say his was/is a good product because it literally made him a billionaire.
Marks of the early MTV demographic would say it was a good product because it was packaged especially for them.
But, the traditionalists from the South, Mid-Atlantic, Northwest, etc. will always cringe at what they consider a mockery of their fundamentals.
And they're all absolutely right.
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Vince McMahon owes everything he has to his writing staff and his big name wrestlers who made him money.