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Title: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 14, 2010, 01:47:50 PM
By popular request... We will play a game... A kinda conspiracy game dealing with Silence of the Lambs...

We will jump right into the deep end with the first question.  At the end of the movie, there is a spiral ornament that spins right after the death of Jame Gumb (aka Buffalo Bill.)  What does it represent?  On one side there is a large white butterfly and as it spins on the other side there are two yellow butterflies.  hint: this is an ornament that often represents the passage of time.

PS... this will be a very long thread ;)  Have fun, if you dare....
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: OzmO on December 14, 2010, 01:53:49 PM
Just going off the top of my head.....

Didn't the butterfly represent the process of coming into being?  You rememeber when he placed the cocoon in the victims mouth?

So does the ornament mean that 2 butterflies will result in his death meaning 2 more killers will be born?
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 14, 2010, 01:55:43 PM
Just going off the top of my head.....

Didn't the butterfly represent the process of coming into being?  You rememeber when he placed the cocoon in the victims mouth?

So does the ornament mean that 2 butterflies will result in his death meaning 2 more killers will be born?
good guess, interesting, but no...  Hint 2, it ties in with the title of the movie...
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Cy Tolliver on December 14, 2010, 02:05:00 PM
By popular request... We will play a game... A kinda conspiracy game dealing with Silence of the Lambs...

We will jump right into the deep end with the first question.  At the end of the movie, there is a spiral ornament that spins right after the death of Jame Gumb (aka Buffalo Bill.)  What does it represent?  On one side there is a large white butterfly and as it spins on the other side there are two yellow butterflies.  hint: this is an ornament that often represents the passage of time.

PS... this will be a very long thread ;)  Have fun, if you dare....

Holy shit, this is the most exciting moment of 2010 for me!  ;D
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 14, 2010, 02:05:15 PM
What the hell...

hint 3:  What would white represent in relation to yellow and in relation to the title of the movie?

yea, you gotta be a Robert Langdon type for this shit  ;D
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 14, 2010, 02:05:58 PM
Holy shit, this is the most exciting moment of 2010 for me!  ;D
I'm going to go all the way with it... ;D
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 14, 2010, 02:16:14 PM
The white butterfly represents purity, like "Lambs" does in the title.....possibly the yellow ones represent it being tainted thru the passage of time?
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Cy Tolliver on December 14, 2010, 02:17:49 PM
The white butterfly represents purity, like "Lambs" does in the title.....possibly the yellow ones represent it being tainted thru the passage of time?

Huh, that's kind of what I'm thinking... 

Yellow Lamb Disease?  WTF is that anyway?
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 14, 2010, 02:21:31 PM
Huh, that's kind of what I'm thinking...  

Yellow Lamb Disease?  WTF is that anyway?

Never heard of it, doesn't sound like anything i would want to acquire.... ;D

Add since butterflies often represent the soul, maybe "two yellow" butterflies represent split-personality/splitting of the soul too....
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 14, 2010, 02:28:51 PM
The white butterfly represents purity, like "Lambs" does in the title.....possibly the yellow ones represent it being tainted thru the passage of time?
your line of thinking is a tiny bit closer, but still wrong.

hint 4:  The title of the movie exactly relates to the puzzle given...

Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 14, 2010, 02:41:08 PM
Hint 5:  this is the last hint before I move on to another aspect of the movie.

The butterfly or even moth is a symbol of what in regards to christianity?  This one you can go look up on the net...

It's not the final answer to this portion of the puzzle, it's only part of it and a small part...  The main question which I put forth first still stands after you look this hint up...  
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Cy Tolliver on December 14, 2010, 02:47:53 PM
Something about resurrection, or a new beginning?

Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 14, 2010, 02:52:01 PM
by the way, I said we would jump right into it, and I'm not shitting...  The above sequence in the movie is a full half of the final finale.  I jumped right to the end to ask you all questions and by the end of this thread, you you understand why i did that.

So go get your copies of Silence of the Lambs kiddies, we have a long and fun road ahead....  

(if this thread goes byebye, I didn't delete it...)
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 14, 2010, 02:56:42 PM
Something about resurrection, or a new beginning?


yes that is an important part of it exactly.  It's not the final or complete answer but you're way closer than showstoppa... no offence to showstoppa's good answer...
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 14, 2010, 03:03:50 PM
Ok, done posting on this for today... Homework for those who are interested in following this is to rent a copy or watch a copy online of this movie and pay attention...  The movie does not fuck around... It's chalked full with symbology and clues from the moment it starts to the end....
Again, you have to be a fucking Robert Langdon for this shit...  I kid you not, this movie will give you important symbols and clues almost every minute of the movie.  Keep in mind this is a religious movie and that's the best hint of all...

I'll wait a few days before continuing for those who want to watch the movie again or for the first time....


Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Cy Tolliver on December 14, 2010, 08:12:36 PM
Watching it in about an hour on netflix!
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 17, 2010, 11:54:48 AM
Alright, another stab..... would the whole innocence thing be because Christ was often mentioned as a "lamb?"  And with butterflies being a "soul" it would represent an "innocent soul" of the "lambs" who were killed or "silenced?"  IE"  Silence of the lambs would be death of the innocents?

About the best i can do......need more booze..... ;D Such a good movie, I remember hearing there were tons of symbols as to the id/location of the killer, but it was way, way above my head....
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on January 21, 2011, 08:59:28 AM
there is a VERY specific meaning to everything they put in movies. But you have to be familiar with the symbolism behind it.

People have to learn about MASONIC symbolism in order to see that. everything from Black and White tiled floors, to images of the sun, to the obvious all seeing eye symbols, to Red and Black imagery, owls, butterflies, goats, hand signs of all types not to mention the spoken symbolic words. There is a lot to learn in that regard. Angels and Demons was just a mild awakening to the world of images and symbols used in movies and in real life to tell an entirely different story/message to what is actually being seen.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 22, 2011, 12:43:35 AM
Ok, next installment.  The last thing we covered was the turning ornament often used to represent the passing of time.  One side might have summer and the other winter for example.  In this case it was one large yellow butterfly on one side and two smaller butterflies on the otherside, one white and one yellow.

Right before the scene showing the ornament spinning and right after the death of Jame Gumb, they show a close-up of the window that was shot out by Clarise.  The shooting out of the window is "letting in the light" to a Gumb's dark lair.  It is important that this moment happens at the moment of Gumb's death.  They show the shooting of the window when it happens and then seconds later, show a close-up of the window sill which is carefully posed.  When the shooting of the window happens, "letting the light in" you see two things fall to each side.  On the close-up of the window sill, you see that the American flag has fallen to the left and GI Joe has fallen to the right.  What does that mean?  

If you can't answer all these questions, don't worry, just keep the questions in your mind as we move through different elements of the show.

Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 22, 2011, 04:15:47 AM
Since this thread went a bit without updates I'll go ahead and speed it up a bit with two installments in the same day.  But don't skip over the first to focus on the last.  They are both important.

The next section we'll focus on is: What in the hell is going on in Jame Gumb (AKA Buffalo Bill's) lair.  Everything we will cover in this post deals with what is going on in his lair.

Upon entering Gumb’s lair for the first time you should immediately see red white and blue.    Three manikins are first in view, one with blond hair, one with auburn hair and the third with some kind of blue frilly thing on her head.  This occurs at approximately 49 minutes into the movie.  The one with blue is reaching out to a 4th manikin wearing a black and red cape.

Seconds later you see Gumb at his work desk.  You will see that he has several items pined up on a large American flag above his desk.  A clock placed in the stars of the flag is interesting but for now, just note the flag above Gumb’s desk.

Where Gumb is sitting at his desk, there is a doorway to his left side.  On the outer face of that door is a map of The United States.  You can't see it in this scene, but it will be visible when Clarise enters later in the movie at approx. 1:44.10.

At this point in the movie they go out to where the victim is being held in a well.  Notice the light on the wall in the room she is being held.  The bricks around the light are painted blue and the bricks below the light are painted red.  A white light surrounded by blue bricks with red bricks below…  Reminiscent of the American Flag?  Later in the movie, before Gumb’s death, you’ll get a closer look at the light and bricks.  The repetition is not accidental, this movie is full of imagery repeated over and over.  

Now to the famous point where Gumb is asking the victim to place the lotion in the basket, at about 58 minutes in.  As  the basket it being raised, you will see that they pause for a quick second on a portion of the wall where past victims tried to claw their way out.  A fingernail is stuck in the bricks, red white and blue.  Red, the blood and blue and white in the bricks.  

Next at approx. 1:25 into the movie we’re to a scene where Gumb is sowing.  They zoom in close to show Gumb’s hand.  He has two tattoos on his hand.  One that says “Love” and the other, “The Star of Bethlehem”  When the victim tosses a bone up to the dog, “Precious” you again see red white and blue.

Next we see another tattoo on Jame Gumb AKA Buffalo Bill. Three drops of blood dripping from a tattoo representation of a wound on the side of his chest/abdomen area.  They make sure you see this spending plenty of time on it.  The immediate scene right after is of Precious, again you see the red white and blue.  Precious is white, red pillow, blue bed.  After seeing Gumb’s  tattoo representing a wound, we see a close-up of his nipple ring which is shaped like a droplet.  This IMO is just meant to reinforce the previous image seconds ago of the wound tattoo which is more important.  

The next scene with Gumb is very important to the movie.  At approx. 1:35:40 he is dancing in front of a recording camera.  He has just got done fitting part of a SKIN THAT IS NOT HIS.  His little dance ends with him striking a pose and right before he strikes that pose, in the ultimate symbology of misrepresenting yourself, he tucks his male goods.  The pose he strikes at the end of his dance is the same as Jesus on the crucifix.  See from my notes above that he is posed not only in a stance representing Jesus on the crucifix but also bearing a tattoo representing the spear wound of Jesus.  Three droplets of blood.  Star of Bethlehem and  Love tattooed on his hand.   Yes, by now you see that this is all intentional.  They didn’t accidentally put all these images together.  There is an intentional point to it all that some were meant to see and others were not…

By now you’re probably putting some of the stuff together.

Part II to Jame Gumb’s Lair comes in my next post.  Oh and it gets even better….  This ain’t noth’n yet.  

IN THE IMAGES BELOW, NOTE WHERE THE SPEAR WOUND IS ON CHRIST AND WHERE THE TATOO'D WOUND IS ON JAME GUMB.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 22, 2011, 04:33:45 AM
For those who don't have the movie to look at here is a close-up of Jame Gumb's tattoo on his right side... The only thing missing from this image is that there are three drops of blood falling from the wound.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on January 22, 2011, 06:56:36 AM
ain't nuthin masonic about any of that ... it would be like chinease to you or anyone else ... I am serious

I speak Chinese then..

You obviously have NO KNOWLEDGE of the MASONS and their symbolism used in everything from music videos to movies to advertising. So crafty has been their skills that you have looked at it for years unawares of what you were looking at. Just as this movie Silence of the Lambs is full of symbolism that registered on only a few of the minds that saw it. The image Hugo posted above of this guy has multiple meanings: he stands in the position of Christ at crucifixion with a wound to his side yet he is alive so not only is he saying to the viewer that he is Christ...he also says he represents the resurrection.

At the same time he has taken on the image of a woman by tucking his genitals between his legs...in the masonic order part of their worship is of an entity called BAPHOMET and while baphomet has the head of a goat the outstanding feature is the fact that the body of baphomet is that of a man and woman combined. In the picture Hugo posted you have a man who is pretending to be a woman with for all intents and purposes has a vagina so he represents a man and woman combined. To the masons, baphomet is their god and what they worship. This entity is also worshiped in occultist and satanic rituals and you will often see it with one arm pointing upward and the other pointing downward representing "so above so below"... a sign of Devil worship. Since Silence of the Lambs deals with ritualistic killings, sacrifice, torture and even cannibalism  its occultic/masonic theme is well represented.

I am going to have to watch the movie again...it has been some years since i have seen it last. I need a refresher on its plot, theme and imagery.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on January 22, 2011, 10:54:15 AM
Here is another example of MASONIC advertising and control. I just saw this image pop up on my screen about getting a IPAD for $23.74. Notice the symbol on this guys shirt...THE ALL SEEING EYE. For those in the know they are now aware of the phoniness of this scam of getting extremely reduced price...this website is controlled by some group heavy into the masonic order

(http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/imgad?id=CNTGkKfjnKD1-gEQrAIY7wEyCPx9RDdDLr--)
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 22, 2011, 11:09:07 AM
Here is another example of MASONIC advertising and control. I just saw this image pop up on my screen about getting a IPAD for $23.74. Notice the symbol on this guys shirt...THE ALL SEEING EYE. For those in the know they are now aware of the phoniness of this scam of getting extremely reduced price...this website is controlled by some group heavy into the masonic order

(http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/imgad?id=CNTGkKfjnKD1-gEQrAIY7wEyCPx9RDdDLr--)



Dude, you're like the ultimate caricature of a conspiracy theorist. lol....
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 22, 2011, 11:21:59 AM
For everybody else, which might be 1 or 2 souls reading this lol...  Forget about the masonic and Illuminati stuff for this thread.  None of that shit is important whatsoever. 

Just look at the material, weigh it against your own knowledge and see what you honestly think.

At the least, there is some very interesting symbology incorporated into this movie that is fun to explore.  We don't have to turn this into a masonic end of the world satanic total destruction conspiracy lol....
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on January 23, 2011, 10:31:31 PM
Just finished watching this movie again and there is a whole hell of a lot I forgot about this movie and a whole hell of a lot I learned.

Here are the answers to two of the questions asked to get this started. The twirling wind vane with the butterflies represents the MONARCH PROJECT (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon02.htm) Note also that there are butterflies named Monarch of which the program/project was named after (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/63/Monarch_In_May.jpg/250px-Monarch_In_May.jpg). Once again the butterfly indicates what is really at work in this scene of the movie.

The butterfly is the Monarch Project's "mascot/identifier". The fact that there are two butterflies on one side: one yellow and one white means they are dealing with the two levels of consciousness. White being the conscious mind that a person has control over and yellow the subconscious mind which is the greater mind that a person does not have control over. On the other side is one big yellow butterfly. As the vane twirls it informs the viewer that Monarch Project's goal is, just like a hypnotist using a twirling watch on a string to subdue a person's conscious mind, to allow access to their subconscious mind where they can manipulate it and transform the person into someone who they are not. Once transformed (remember this word) the new person/subconscious mind is represented by the bigger yellow butterfly.

NOW JUST TO KICK THIS OFF...

First off Silence Of The Lambs is NOT a movie about a random serial killer, but rather Hannibal is a mind control experiment created and used by the government to be the prototype of how to make an IDEAL soldier/assassin/mercinary who will not only kill without any emotional attachment, but will also be highly intelligent in manipulating his "enemy" in a subversive and intellectual manner.

At the beginning of the film Clarrise is seen running around FBI headquarters in Langley Virginia. Notice on a tree she passes it says PAIN, HURT, AGONY...LOVE IT. Essentially this part is telling you the FBIs method of operation particularly of getting information out of people (renditioning, kidnapping, torture etc) involves a sadomasochistic mindset and they love this methodology. Underneath the PAIN, AGONY, HURT signs is another washed out sign that says PRIDE. Being washed out means there may have been a time when the FBI operated honestly and had dignity now it is debased and therefore this washed out sign represents that change .

As the movie moves on you then see Clarrise on her way to meet Crawford and she encounters a female on a staircase and they exchange a particular handshake similar to but not quite a high five (remember that). Clarrise is then seen running past a room full of people wearing Blue Shirts...these people represent ex-army members who are devoted to to defend conservative interests and to halt what they perceived as an emerging threat coming from their political opponents (read about it HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueshirts) .You then get to the scene where Clarrise enters an elevator with a bunch of men all wearing RED SHIRTS. RED SHIRT was the name of a paramilitary group in the US that operated as the strong arm for the democrats by disrupting political rallies(provocateurs), by assassinating leaders and suppressing voting at the polls of republicans (read about it Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Shirts_(Southern_United_States)).  Notice that the blue shirts are all handling guns and military firearms...the RED SHIRTS had no weapons.

Clarrise then exists the elevator and the camera pans to a sign on the wall that says BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES SERVICES... informing the viewer that this is a place where people are mentally trained/indoctrinated/programmed/researched.... can you say MKULTRA, MONARCH, MONTAUK, DARPA, PHOENIX PROJECT etc etc. Also notice as she walks down the hall a man and a woman standing in front of a copy machine make a unusual hand sign that is the same as the one Clarrise made with the other woman on the stairs...again similar to a high five except their hands are clenched like fists...an Illuminati/secret society reference for sure.

As Clarisse turns corners she meets a Black man who asks if she is looking for Crawford? On the blackboard in his office is a message saying BLUE EYED BOY NOW. There is/was a real person named Jane Elliot who ran a program called BLUE EYED and its purpose was to train people on how to psychologically destroy individual people, races, religions and whole nations by capitalizing on minute issues like hair color, eye color, religious differences, cultural differences, regions, anything personal that can show even the slightest differences are used to set nations/people at war with themselves. Clarrise receives a warning from Crawford about NOT letting Hannibal get into her mind by revealing anything personal about herself to him.... essentially warning Clarrise that Hannibal can destroy her with mental games as the Blue Eyed program does.

Clarrise then makes her way to Crawford's office where she sees practically an entire wall covered with pictures of the victims of Hannibal's handiwork (killed skinned victims). This in not something displayed for the sake of investigators to see, but rather displayed so the FBI top brass can see how their "experiment": Hannibal, is performing in regards to being that trained heartless/emotionless/intelligent assassin. Crawford begins telling Clarisse of how he remembered her from his lectures at the University of Virginia (a obvious play on Virginia Tech where MKULTRA operates out of) in his class about Herbert Hoover. Hoover was the US president who created the FBI which whole intent was to spy on american citizens and groups the US government deemed SUBVERSIVE: Civil Rights groups and leaders, feminist groups, jewish groups, racial groups, church/religious groups etc etc and break then up through subversive moves, "plants", provocateurs and false flag scenarios and blame.

Crawford then goes on to question Clarrise about dealing with the "serial killers" they have in "custody" or should he have said 'assassins in training'. It is at this time he speaks of Hannibal and mentions he is a psychiatrist. Essentially he is saying he now needs someone to TEST this prototype to see if Hannibal performs on the intellectual level as well as they would like, now that he has been "trained".

Clarrise goes on to meet Dr Chilton who informs Clarrise that Hannibal is too smart for all the other investigators (remember Clarrise graduated Magna) and as he informs her of this, the two of them make their way down windowless corridors: (secret project), and finally to a gated room bathed in red light (red light meaning Clarrise is about to discover something ALARMING/DANGEROUS). Clarrise and Chilton remain in this glow of this red light for a while as Dr Chilton explains the capabilities of Hannibal and how he destroyed a nurse short of killing her. Clarrise then after meeting the head guard enters into and through a long windowless corridor: secret government program/no outside knowledge of, in what looks like a dungeon to reach Hannibal. As she passes each inmate or "trainee" each says or does something about/to her: One says "Hi" another says nothing but "Observes" her, another says "I can smell your 1cunt1" informing the viewer that each has been trained intensely in a specific area or field. Hannibal training is diverse and involves all the trainings of the others but he is intellectual where the others are not. Also notice how Hannibal "cell" is? It is not a jail cell with bars as the others are, he is behind a viewing window, showing once again he is a "experiment" being created and monitored like a lab rat and not a prisoner. Also note his stance...very butler-esque showing him to be refined and cultivated/cultured. Again Hannibal is to be seen as a highly intelligent assassin/mercinary/killer.

I will continue this tomorrow...this should be interesting and good by the time it is all over... STAY TUNED
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 23, 2011, 10:58:51 PM
glad someone is having fun with this.  I'll just be honest and say that interpetation is 180 degrees from mine.  will be fun to see where you go lol...


LOL
Hannibal is a mind control experiment created and used by the government to be the prototype of how to make an IDEAL soldier/assassin
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 23, 2011, 11:22:45 PM
Alright, another stab..... would the whole innocence thing be because Christ was often mentioned as a "lamb?"  And with butterflies being a "soul" it would represent an "innocent soul" of the "lambs" who were killed or "silenced?"  IE"  Silence of the lambs would be death of the innocents?

About the best i can do......need more booze..... ;D Such a good movie, I remember hearing there were tons of symbols as to the id/location of the killer, but it was way, way above my head....
you're going in the right direction for sure.  sorry I missed this post.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 25, 2011, 11:44:19 AM
GIVING HINTS IN THIS POST....

Samson, you're rushing through this and quickly interpreting things to be what you want them to be.  

Slow down a bit, you're missing very important things.

As one example, you noted 4 signs at the start of the movie.  There are actually 5 signs.  Every detail is important and this is important.  Notice the first 4 signs are: Hurt, Agony, Pain, Love-it which are actually at Quantico and the fifth is (PR I DE) PRIDE. The FIFTH sign spaced the THIRD letter from the others.  Notice that the FIFTH sign is DARK, SPECIFICALLY NOT CARED FOR!!! While the other 4 signs have been kept up and are readable.  Like they intentionally left the FIFTH uncared for or DIDN'T CARE ABOUT.  This is all important and will make sense with other elements of the movie.

You can't rush through this movie and spit out the answer tailored to what you want it to be.  There is an exact reason to everything in this movie and I will show that as I go along with this thread or rather hope that people start seeing what is here as I go along and point out things.  This movie has a puzzle in it; puzzles are fun to solve and sometimes puzzles take time...
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 25, 2011, 02:22:10 PM
OK, part II to Jame Gumb's lair and this is a very important part.  

First a quick recap of Part I to Gumb's lair:
You clearly could see that he was surrounded with the red white and blue: in forms of color, in forms of American maps and in forms of American flags........... We also covered the fact that the filmmakers chose to put tattoos on Jame Gumb representing Christ, that being the star of Bethlehem on the hand and another tattoo representing the spear wound of Christ on his chest.  They followed with a final Christ on the crucifix pose by Gump.

Part II of Gumb's Lair
I've attached two pictures below.  The first picture is of Gumb's bed cover.  Take a look at that picture and I ask you, what does it symbolize in relation to the rest of what we've learned of Gumb's lair and Gumb‘s image?  Hint: "is in bed with..."

The second picture is a picture taken from the door leading into the room where Gumb nurtures his Death Head Moths.  The last picture is the actual WWII era poster.

Remember earlier in the movie, he places the moth "IN THE MOUTH OF HIS VICTIMS" --This is very symbolic of something!
At approx. 1:37:57 Gumb talks to the moths he IS PLACING IN THE MOUTHS OF HIS VICTIMS saying “So powerful, so beautiful”
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 25, 2011, 02:43:13 PM
In case you're skeptical, I promise you, the set designers did not accidentally place these items.  You have the flag and GI Joe on the window sill, the flag above his desk, the map of America on his door, the WWII propaganda poster scolding America on the other door, the swastika blanket on his bed and the repetition of red white and blue throughout...  Trust me, it's intentional.... 
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on January 25, 2011, 07:56:20 PM
OK Here is the continuing explanation of THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS meaning. I made a few updates to the first post as I missed a couple of key images/points that are important. I posted them in red yesterday to separate them from what I have posted earlier. I will turn them black after I feel any and everyone has had a chance to read the updates.

OK here we go

Clarrise walks down the windowless dungeon of a corridor, again representing a secret government facility/laboratory, where she finds Hannibal standing very Butler-esque style, again representing refinement/intelligence. Hannibal then requests Clarrises credentials. Right away he is establishing her intelligence level and any potential intellectual difficulty he may have in dealing with her and getting into her mind just as a mercinary/spy/soldier would have to do in war or to obtain secrets. Hannibal then asks Clarrise what Migs (the name of the person in cell near his) said to her as she walked by, of which she replied "he said I can smell your 1cunt1". MIGS (http://www.fas.org/irp/program/process/migs.htm) in the US military means Multi-source Intelligence Ground System...a reference to soldiers/mercinaries/assassins/"equipment" sent out to gather information on a subject/place/country etc...In this movie it refers to the other "trainees" in the "cells" that have gathered intel about Clarrise as she passed by. Hannibal then sniffs the air through the viewing pane informing Clarise that he knows she wears L'air Du Temps  (http://www.ninaricci.com/NinaRicci_Parfums/html/en/nina-ricci-perfumes/air-du-temps.php) a French term meaning SIGN OF THE TIMES he then says to Clarrise that she uses Evian skin cream, but that she is not wearing it today..note that Evian is NAIVE spelled backwards and the fact he says not today, means CClarrise is now being made aware of the reality of the US government (remember this). Seems Hannibal is informing Clarrise she is naive about the sign of the times or naive about what is going on in her environment (Remember this also).

Hannibal has picked up on her amateurishness as he questions and stares at her intensely about who and why she was sent. After seeing her ID he notices Clarrises ID expires in a week...here ID is more like permit which allows her/public to question or make demands of government which will be taken into consideration... if time permits. Remember the sign on the wall right before she entered the long dungeon like corridor to meet with Hannibal...it said you must APPLY FOR A VISITORS PASS (and notice how the camera focused on that sign intently before panning away)...a visitors pass...same as you would need going into a government office to meet a politician.  Hannibal says she is not really an official FBI agent, but rather is still in training, meaning Clarrise represents the public/investigators who are questioning government activities.

Remember the BRAVE persona Clarrise presented to Crawford and Chilton when she first met each one of them saying she graduated from UVA and not a charm school...essentially saying she was ready to handle stressful/tough situations/government (so she thought) and here she was being intimidated by Hannibal after just a stare and a few questions...sort of like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz (she too was brave before meeting the wizard, but scared to death in his presence). This is symbolic of movements and groups who wish to confront government officials and after achieving that end realize how powerless they are against it...just like those Tea Party groups and their gun toting comrades were destroyed without having to engage military intervention.

Clarrise then asks about the drawings, to which Hannibal asks do you know about Duomo and the scene from Belvedere. There was the first clue that Hannibal knows about Buffalo Bill... representing governments knowledge of all serial killers/terrorist and  their tactics and locations and the killings (Remember this as the Columbine kids, Dahmer, Fort Hood, John Malvo, Muhammed etc etc will come into play in this explanation). Belvedere Ohio is where Bill and the woman he killed and weighed down, were from. Clarrise then ask "you drew all that detail from memory" and Hannibal says Memory is all I have instead of a view. Here Hannibal reveals he is a mind controlled experiment and he operates on the orders he has been given (MEMORY/PROGRAMMING) and has no view meaning he has no opinion, doesn't question what he is told and doesn't resist his orders..think Manchurian Candidate. It is at this point Clarrise asks for his OPINION on the Buffalo Bill case to which Hannibal refuses right off (showing his controlled mind and inability/resistance to questions or to offer opinions). Realizing the charm/tactic Clarrise was attempting to use was only to get him to help in revealing information on another mind controlled candidate: Buffalo Bill, while at the same time get him to reveal aspects of himself. Hannibal in turn reveals just how much he knows about her when he opens the flood gates of knowledge he has gathered on her from her childhood to her adult life. An interesting comment is made about serial killers keeping trophies of their victims to which Hannibal say he didn't keep trophies and Clarrise says you ate yours...meaning these mind controlled assassins/Manchurian Candidates do not leave evidence to be found in the present or future/cover their activities well.

Clarrise hands Hannibal a document with the title VICAP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Criminal_Apprehension_Program) on its cover. VICAP is a program of the FBI where serial killers information is collected and analyzed and a profile of the person developed. Keep in mind Hannibal is a experiment that is being tested by Clarrise for intellectual alacrity and prowness. This VICAP document is a good representation of evidence gathering and profile creation a government will do on any one who begins to dig into its secrets....That person will be seen as a terrorist/threat to government and will be subject to VICAP... Patriot Act anyone?

I will continue this tomorrow...it only gets better and more clear as I go

Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 28, 2011, 01:54:28 PM
Alright, I'll jump back in....

all the US and Nazi symbols being meshed together is the belief that during WWII certain factions in the US and Nazi's were "in bed with" each other.

The moth in the mouth is the relates to the Bible verse...."Indeed, the word of God is living and effective, sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating even between soul and spirit, joints and marrow, and able to discern reflections and thoughts of the heart."  Also, a greek playwright coined the "The tongue is mightier than the blade" phrase in 400 BC.    This all relates to the military propoganda idea.

All for now, will check back later...
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on January 28, 2011, 06:51:02 PM
OK Folks the show is about to begin. Always have your bucket of popcorn and a cup of soda ready before reading and enjoy...it only gets better and juicier as I go. Also I put links throughout the posts that I have made...please make sure you click on these links to read up on further information... IT IS VERY IMPORTANT IN UNDERSTANDING THE CHARACTERS, NAMES, PLACES etc in this story...

As Clarrise hands Hannibal the VICAP documents they begin discussing another "serial killer" by the name of Buffalo Bill. Looking into the real life Buffalo Bill one finds that he was AN AMERICAN SOLDIER. Once again the purpose in this character being given the name Buffalo Bill is to let the viewer know that this person is another mind controlled experiment under the control of the US military/programs of MKUltra, DARPA, Montauk Project, Monarch Project etc etc. It is at this point that Hannibal gives a commentary on Clarrise about her appearance. Hannibal's remark about her "cheap shoes", "good bag" and having "good nutrition which has given her some bone length" is reference to the fact that americans are beginning to become more than slaves, more than idiots who just go along with government they are becoming educated (hence the bag as in book bag/education) to their rights, laws, what government should be about. The cheap shoes references sneakers or comfortable foot wear needed to march on washington/government to make demands. The "good nutrition and bone length" comment is a play on stature and how government sees its citizens... just as one eats food you can also consume knowledge and/or become knowledgeable about the workings of the world/government and be perceived differently. The bone length remark is a suggestion that she/public can now stand taller and confront government as opposed to the normal stature government sees the masses as being crouched down/over or seen as diminutive/lesser. Hannibal's comment on her West Virginia accent is again a reference to being less intelligent, mindless, short sightedness as southern accents/drawls often conjure up. In short Hannibal is saying to Clarrise that she has become a little too educated, to forward and is becoming too big for her britches in her questioning of government. Clarrise returns commentary by saying to Hannibal he should look at his own over blown image of himself to see that he is no better than she. In short she is saying that government should see itself on par with the people it represents and not as something above the masses. In response Hannibal puts the VICAP documents in the slider tray and gives it back to her, meaning this VICAP program can just as quickly be used on you (Clarrise/public) if needs be. Hannibal then tells of his killing and eating of a census workers liver with a Chianti wine. Again a warning to Clarrise/public NOT TO EVER CHALLENGE GOVERNMENT LEST YOU DIE AND DISAPPEAR!!!... Dead and missing 911 witnesses anyone? Pat Tillman? 911 Truthers? etc

Hannibal then turns and says to Clarrise "you fly back to school" meaning she, representing the masses/public, has a lot more learning to do if she is going to challenge the government or its military.

At this point Clarrise picks up her bag and begins walking down the dungeon of a corridor to leave. In the cell next to Hannibal is a man masturbating: Migs... a clear reference to the mind controlled military soldiers/experiments/cops getting off on their perceived power their government has given them. Just as clarrise passes Migs (notice the fear on her face showing her/public fear of the new power of these mindbots) he throws his semen into her face... meaning this "perceived power" these mind controlled bots have is going to be exercised on the masses as a display of power, with the masses/public not being able to do anything about it (think of the police/military and how they treat demonstrators at gatherings where they vocalize their demands on government or such things as G8 or G20 meeting). Cops and military instantly become drunk/overwhelmed/infatuated with their "power" so much so that they abuse and terrorize the demonstrators in particular the innocent ones of a society.

At this point as Clarrise begins wiping the semen from her face, meaning coming to grips with the reality of the new brutal police state and its abuses... all of the other "inmates/experiments" begin going wild... meaning going wild and/or out of control over their government given "power"... once again I can reference the G20 and G8 meetings where the police attacked and even killed without provocation.

One inmate/experiment begins screaming HANNIBAL THE CANNIBAL, HANNIBAL THE CANNIBAL as Clarrise neared him, meaning Hannibal will be the prototype by which all other mindbots will be modeled. They will not be wild and aggressive in appearance as the other are, but will appear refined and articulate, but will kill and abuse on command when needed... think about the soldiers who killed Patrick Tillman...his fellow soldiers who lied and covered the killing up without remorse, yet outwardly they appeared as refined gentlemen and the best of soldiers.

As Clarrise tries to adjust to the out of control "inmates" Hannibal begins calling her back and says "I would never have had that happen, this discourteousness is unspeakably ugly to me" (referencing the semen thrown into her face) again Hannibal is showing his refinements and his method of operation would not be to openly attack/disrespect/kill etc but rather he would do it secretly leaving no evidence behind. This comment from Hannibal comes after Migs (remember what that means?) hurled the semen into the face of Clarrise. As Migs did that the "inmate " in the cell next to his called him a "stupid fuck". This line means don't abuse your government given power against the people/masses else you draw attention to them, with the 'THEM' meaning these government controlled/mindbots whose purpose is to spy on the masses and gather Intel on the masses (can you say NSA, FBI, CIA, Blackwater, XE, MIB, even MI5, MI6, ISI, MOSSAD etc etc), and reveal who they really are as well as this secret program of mind control.

As Clarisse stands listening to Hannibal, he offers Clarrise a proposition saying he knows what she wants most which is advancement (essentially telling that all americans are looking to get ahead by one means or another). Hannibal then tells her to look up an old patient of his named Miss MOFET (http://www.mofet.macam.ac.il/english/about/Pages/default.aspx). MOFET is in reference to a program taught in Israel that teaches teachers around the world on how to teach students/children. This means trying to get children/students around the world under mind control by way of these "teachers". And what better way of gaining the minds of children/students and essentially the world and the future than to have a smiling faced teacher who has been taught by a reprobate group with sinister ideals about society/societies they wished to conquer/control, to come into classrooms around the world and teach the same agenda to everyone all at once. Notice this training center is in ISRAEL...Notice how many of your teachers in america have been jewish even though they account for barely 1 percent of americas population. Notice all of the prominent position they hold in america from banking to real estate to politics, to media, to telvision, to newspapers to EDUCATION etc. It should be clear what Hannibal meant and that is, to move ahead in society she: Clarrise/Public has to get with the program...or should I say THEIR programming. (Truly It pays to get aboard their 'TRAINING PROGRAM' for the sake of 'ADVANCEMENT'...ask any politician). Notice also how the same sex/homosexual agenda has come into place around the world all at the same time?, notice the same sex marriage being pushed everywhere in the world all at the same time?, notice the religious based discrimination being pushed around the world all at the same time?

After this revelation by Hannibal you see Clarrise hurry down the 'dungeon' hall. It may seem to suggest that she is trying to avoid another encounter with Migs, but that is not the case...she is actually excited to become a part of this MOFET training in order to advance herself in government for both power and money. You soon see Clarrise exiting the building and standing in a very contemplative yet upset state right outside the building. It is at this point she is giving deep thought to whether or not she wants to get involved in this MOFET program as she knows it is an ill/wrong thing to engage in this deception/mind control of adults and children, yet the money and advancement is too tempting to her. Notice as she stands there two officers are bringing what may seem to be a new prisoner to the 'facility"...what you are actually looking at is a new mind control candidate. Despite knowing this reality Clarrise turns her back on the new candidate meaning she doesn't care about the wrong involved in participating in this program.... the ADVANCEMENT IS WORTH IT.... or so she thinks. As Clarrise gets closer to her car the camera follows her practically all the way and all the while that contemplative expression stays on her face...soon she is meditating/recalling her childhood...this is symbolic of the difficulties she is having in her decision making. The childhood flash back with her dad shows that she is remembering the simpler times in life when things were so INNOCENT (remember this). A time of no worries or cares or dangers or crime, where daddy seemed bigger than life and being loved and hugged was  like sunshine. Soon Clarisse is breaking down in tears at the thought of having to sacrifice all of this for the sake of ADVANCEMENT..POWER ..AND THE GREATEST EVIL: MONEY!!!.

Stay tuned...same Bat channel same Bat place for more explanations
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 07, 2011, 11:35:13 PM
Hope you all are reading these interpretations adn enjoying them. So here we go with Silence Of The Lamb (Chops)

At this point we find Clarrise on the shooting range firing continuously at a target before her. She is then seen entering into a room with another man in a training run (drill, which is often used as a cover for a planned event/attack) where there are people being held hostage. This scene represents the staged events/terrorist acts/hostage taking scenarios that the government uses for justification of action. Notice the flashing red light? as I said before the red light symbolizes DANGER and this scene was one of danger where her one slip up in procedure was spotted by the supervisor who informed her that she would be DEAD if this training run was real…meaning the staged event must run perfectly... one mistake made and the government could be revealed as the entity faking the event(false Flag)... (can you say 911?, Oklahoma City?, War on Iraq? Etc etc)

 Clarrise is then seen jogging with a fellow partner where she is going through protocol for handling dangerous situations. Clarrise is then immediately seen sitting before a microfiche system looking at cases about Hannibal...notice she is wearing a BLUE SHIRT now, showing she is now a part of the BLUE SHIRTS (Go back to my first post and  click on the link about the BLUE SHIRTS if you have forgotten who they are and represent). Also note that Clarrise being a part of the Blue Shirts requires Violence to achieve their end hence the gun training (firing range). Another thing to notice is Clarrise has a pen in her mouth which is very reminiscent of the cocoon(s) that is removed from the mouths of victims of Buffalo Bill…what Clarrise is informing everyone is the FBI is the one behind the killings and the “evidence” left behind.. And as a final thing to notice in the back of the room Clarrise is in you see some of the RED SHIRTS (click on link in my first post to be reminded of who they are and what they are about) showing a tandemness in their operations.

As Clarrise continues researching on the microfiche another person in a blue shirt informs her that Crawford is on the phone and wishes to speak with her. Notice also the person wears a blue shirt and refers to Crawford as a GURU, which is a title associated with someone often seen as a person who gives advice/orders as well as deals with a person's mind/mental issues. Crawford informs Clarrise that MIGS is dead. MIGS is not just a person but represents a program for gathering information on people deemed "of interest" by the government. Notice also how clarrsie becomes so concerned when informed that MIGS is dead…Migs was the person that threw the semen in her face, so if anything she should not be concerned at all about him. Her reason for being concerned is that she is being informed by Crawfore that a program named MIGS is being terminated. Crawford says Hannibal spoke to Migs just before he was found dead from swallowing his own tongue. Eerie as this swallowing of the tongue may sound, it only means the MIGS (Program of information gathering) has been ended and replaced by the more advanced "Hannibal" Program where the agents will not operate as violent unrefined brutes, but will be as Hannibal and come across as refined, intelligent and yet be heartless and deadly.

Crawford asks Clarrise if she found anything on MOFET which Hannibal spoke of after Migs death. Remember MOFET is a program of training teachers to mind control children/students that operates out of Israel. Clarrise informs Crawford that Hannibal destroyed all of his patient’s records…again a reference to how the Hannibal program works by making sure there is no evidence left behind. Clarrise informs Crawford that she found a YOURSELF storage facility Hannibal once used and was going to check it out. This segment of the film informs the viewer that the program MOFET has kept a track record of the teachers and students for at least ten years to see how it has progressed/worked and that record keeping involves you (the viewer/American populace) as well.

The man who owns the storage facility looks like the pictures of UNCLE SAM…referencing this is a program funded/controlled and kept secret by America. The owner speaks of the storage facility being prepaid for ten years and that privacy of his customers is of the utmost…meaning America will protect the Israeli run MOFET program. Clarrise at this point attempts to get into the storage facility, but is unable to get the garage like door open. Meaning this is a program only a few selected individuals in the US government are aware of and no on e else is to know about it. She retrieves a car jack and forces the door open…essentially revealing that she is beginning to use the subversive techniques learned in the FBI program to gain entry to this information on what this program is about and who is not only running it, but who the “students and teachers” are, that is stored in this place. She then gives the owner of the storage facility (UNCLE SAM/FBI) a card/phone number and tells him that if anything happens to her they will know what to do… essentially telling the Behavioral Science branch of the FBI in which she works that she is going to Israel to break into this facility and find out who has been trained and where they are.

As Clarrise investigates the storage area she finds an old car drapped in an American flag (the RED, WHITE and BLUE references are starting to come into play). In the car she finds a well dressed headless mannequin as well as the head of a person covered with a red cloth. This red cloth references DANGER, and the beheaded person references that someone tried finding information about this program before and was killed over it. The headless mannequin references that the program is funded by wealthy UNKNOWN investors.

Clarrise then is seen returning to the FBI behavioral Science facility where Hannibal is. She immediately begins questioning Hannibal about HESTER MOFET which she says is an ANAGRAM meaning THE REST OF ME…eluding to the fact that Hannibal, the program created by the FBI to be this serial killer/assassin/perfect soldier/mercenary, is operating out of different locations (Israel being one of the places) and involves many people to accomplish the goal of the creation of a mind controlled society and world. Some examples of this program have been the Columbine kids, Kazinsky, Dahmer, Fort Hood Shooter, John Mohammed, Malvo, Suicide bombers in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan even Egypt where there were none before America went into these nations. Many of the serial killers in america were all seen by the same psychiatrist right before their violent episodes. Such was the case with the Columbine kids, Dahmer, Fort Hood shooter, Bundy etc etc were all seen by the same psychiatrist.

Clarrise is then seen before the viewing window of Hannibal’s cell saying that he/Hannibal rented the garage…meaning he/US runs and pays for this program known as MOFET. Hannibal immediately informs Clarrise that the bleeding on her leg has stopped. Clarrise is shocked that he even knew of the cut she received entering into the garage, but this was an example of just how sophisticated his intelligence gathering is…he knew of/observed something she thought he didn’t even know about.

Also note that while Hannibal is talking to Clarrise there is a television playing showing a televangelist. This has two purposes one is to show how a person can mass control many people at one time into believing whatever he wants them to believe as these television preachers do. The second purpose is to get the viewer to learn of TRANSFORMATION. Transformation is a word evangelist use all the time…telling the congregation that in order to be a better or more righteous person they must transform into a new person/creature…the government believes the same thing, hence the Behavioral Sciences Program also known as MIND CONTROL. In Hannibals case he informs Clarrise that when she leaves the guards will turn the television up very loud, meaning the transformation process for him into this idyllic government experiment will be intensified.

EXAMPLE of the MOFET PROGRAm in brainwashing/mind controlling children


Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on February 13, 2011, 05:15:27 PM
Hope you all are reading these interpretations adn enjoying them. So here we go with Silence Of The Lamb (Chops)

At this point we find Clarrise on the shooting range firing continuously at a target before her. She is then seen entering into a room with another man in a training run (drill, which is often used as a cover for a planned event/attack) where there are people being held hostage. This scene represents the staged events/terrorist acts/hostage taking scenarios that the government uses for justification of action. Notice the flashing red light? as I said before the red light symbolizes DANGER and this scene was one of danger where her one slip up in procedure was spotted by the supervisor who informed her that she would be DEAD if this training run was real…meaning the staged event must run perfectly... one mistake made and the government could be revealed as the entity faking the event(false Flag)... (can you say 911?, Oklahoma City?, War on Iraq? Etc etc)

 Clarrise is then seen jogging with a fellow partner where she is going through protocol for handling dangerous situations. Clarrise is then immediately seen sitting before a microfiche system looking at cases about Hannibal...notice she is wearing a BLUE SHIRT now, showing she is now a part of the BLUE SHIRTS (Go back to my first post and  click on the link about the BLUE SHIRTS if you have forgotten who they are and represent). Also note that Clarrise being a part of the Blue Shirts requires Violence to achieve their end hence the gun training (firing range). Another thing to notice is Clarrise has a pen in her mouth which is very reminiscent of the cocoon(s) that is removed from the mouths of victims of Buffalo Bill…what Clarrise is informing everyone is the FBI is the one behind the killings and the “evidence” left behind.. And as a final thing to notice in the back of the room Clarrise is in you see some of the RED SHIRTS (click on link in my first post to be reminded of who they are and what they are about) showing a tandemness in their operations.

As Clarrise continues researching on the microfiche another person in a blue shirt informs her that Crawford is on the phone and wishes to speak with her. Notice also the person wears a blue shirt and refers to Crawford as a GURU, which is a title associated with someone often seen as a person who gives advice/orders as well as deals with a person's mind/mental issues. Crawford informs Clarrise that MIGS is dead. MIGS is not just a person but represents a program for gathering information on people deemed "of interest" by the government. Notice also how clarrsie becomes so concerned when informed that MIGS is dead…Migs was the person that threw the semen in her face, so if anything she should not be concerned at all about him. Her reason for being concerned is that she is being informed by Crawfore that a program named MIGS is being terminated. Crawford says Hannibal spoke to Migs just before he was found dead from swallowing his own tongue. Eerie as this swallowing of the tongue may sound, it only means the MIGS (Program of information gathering) has been ended and replaced by the more advanced "Hannibal" Program where the agents will not operate as violent unrefined brutes, but will be as Hannibal and come across as refined, intelligent and yet be heartless and deadly.

Crawford asks Clarrise if she found anything on MOFET which Hannibal spoke of after Migs death. Remember MOFET is a program of training teachers to mind control children/students that operates out of Israel. Clarrise informs Crawford that Hannibal destroyed all of his patient’s records…again a reference to how the Hannibal program works by making sure there is no evidence left behind. Clarrise informs Crawford that she found a YOURSELF storage facility Hannibal once used and was going to check it out. This segment of the film informs the viewer that the program MOFET has kept a track record of the teachers and students for at least ten years to see how it has progressed/worked and that record keeping involves you (the viewer/American populace) as well.

The man who owns the storage facility looks like the pictures of UNCLE SAM…referencing this is a program funded/controlled and kept secret by America. The owner speaks of the storage facility being prepaid for ten years and that privacy of his customers is of the utmost…meaning America will protect the Israeli run MOFET program. Clarrise at this point attempts to get into the storage facility, but is unable to get the garage like door open. Meaning this is a program only a few selected individuals in the US government are aware of and no on e else is to know about it. She retrieves a car jack and forces the door open…essentially revealing that she is beginning to use the subversive techniques learned in the FBI program to gain entry to this information on what this program is about and who is not only running it, but who the “students and teachers” are, that is stored in this place. She then gives the owner of the storage facility (UNCLE SAM/FBI) a card/phone number and tells him that if anything happens to her they will know what to do… essentially telling the Behavioral Science branch of the FBI in which she works that she is going to Israel to break into this facility and find out who has been trained and where they are.

As Clarrise investigates the storage area she finds an old car drapped in an American flag (the RED, WHITE and BLUE references are starting to come into play). In the car she finds a well dressed headless mannequin as well as the head of a person covered with a red cloth. This red cloth references DANGER, and the beheaded person references that someone tried finding information about this program before and was killed over it. The headless mannequin references that the program is funded by wealthy UNKNOWN investors.

Clarrise then is seen returning to the FBI behavioral Science facility where Hannibal is. She immediately begins questioning Hannibal about HESTER MOFET which she says is an ANAGRAM meaning THE REST OF ME…eluding to the fact that Hannibal, the program created by the FBI to be this serial killer/assassin/perfect soldier/mercenary, is operating out of different locations (Israel being one of the places) and involves many people to accomplish the goal of the creation of a mind controlled society and world. Some examples of this program have been the Columbine kids, Kazinsky, Dahmer, Fort Hood Shooter, John Mohammed, Malvo, Suicide bombers in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan even Egypt where there were none before America went into these nations. Many of the serial killers in america were all seen by the same psychiatrist right before their violent episodes. Such was the case with the Columbine kids, Dahmer, Fort Hood shooter, Bundy etc etc were all seen by the same psychiatrist.

Clarrise is then seen before the viewing window of Hannibal’s cell saying that he/Hannibal rented the garage…meaning he/US runs and pays for this program known as MOFET. Hannibal immediately informs Clarrise that the bleeding on her leg has stopped. Clarrise is shocked that he even knew of the cut she received entering into the garage, but this was an example of just how sophisticated his intelligence gathering is…he knew of/observed something she thought he didn’t even know about.

Also note that while Hannibal is talking to Clarrise there is a television playing showing a televangelist. This has two purposes one is to show how a person can mass control many people at one time into believing whatever he wants them to believe as these television preachers do. The second purpose is to get the viewer to learn of TRANSFORMATION. Transformation is a word evangelist use all the time…telling the congregation that in order to be a better or more righteous person they must transform into a new person/creature…the government believes the same thing, hence the Behavioral Sciences Program also known as MIND CONTROL. In Hannibals case he informs Clarrise that when she leaves the guards will turn the television up very loud, meaning the transformation process for him into this idyllic government experiment will be intensified.

EXAMPLE of the MOFET PROGRAm in brainwashing/mind controlling children




Excellent work. Keep it coming.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 19, 2011, 06:19:02 PM
Here we go with the next segment of The Silence Of The Lambs.

As Hannibal speaks he tells Clarrise about his desire to leave the compound (Behavioral Science Center) after being there eight years, but says he will never be allowed to leave alive. Hannibal knows he, as a prototype for the new ideal assassin/terrorist/soldier/mercenary, he will never be made known to the public as he is a secret government mind control experiment/process. Hannibal, in his bargaining with Clarrise, says he wants a view, a window, he wants to see water, a tree, to be away from Chilton. In movies and pictures a window means a future. What Hannibal actually desires is to have some use/purpose/life other than being a decipherer of behaviors of individuals the government deems of interest as well as a desire for this torturous life he has courtesy of Dr. Chilton, to come to an end.

Clarrise then asks Hannibal about a fledgling killer ( a reference to Buffalo Bill) which Hannibal responds that he is offering her a psychological profile of Buffalo Bill based upon the case evidence. Here we see that Hannibal’s main government use is to analyze suspects/persons of interest. Hannibal then informs Clarrise that he will help her catch him, which brings her from a seated to a standing position. Keep in mind Clarrise is desperate to climb the FBI ranks and in her mind catching Buffalo Bill is her ticket up. Clarrise then asks Hannibal if he knows Buffalo Bill? She then asks Hannibal who decapitated his patient (remember Hannibals patient is MOFET, an acronym for a mind control program operating out of Israel. The term decapitation means - who ended the MOFET program)? Hannibal responds that good things come to those who wait… referencing that her advancement in the FBI from solving this case will come in time. Hannibal then says Buffalo Bill is searching out his next victim.

At this time the scene changes to a white blonde female driving a car in Memphis Tennessee down a dark lonely street, while blasting a song called American Girl (http://www.elyrics.net/read/t/tom-petty-lyrics/american-girl-lyrics.html). A song telling of the great benefits of being an American, even though it is a life filled with dissatisfaction and even death despite the promise of happiness.  

We then are shown Buffalo Bill wearing night vision goggles(darkness represents hidden knowledge/ignorance/unknowing) as he watches this blonde white female pull into the dark parking lot of the building she lives in. This dark scene informs the viewer that Bill is learned/trained/can see into something that everyone else is ignorant to/unknowing of. As she gets out of her car, Bill is seen trying to put a large chair into the back of a van, which he is incapable of as one of his hands is in a cast. This white woman (representing an ideal American) seeing his dilemma, offers assistance. This scene attempts to shows the gullibleness, naivety and generosity of Americans.... even though it can be the crux of trouble. She approaches this stranger (Bill) and asks if he needed help? He says yes and asks if she could help him lift the chair into the van (dangerous generosity), which she does. Once in the van with the woman, Bill punches her multiple times in the face with the cast knocking her out cold (Iron hand in a velvet glove). This scene informs the viewer of what naivety/ignorance/gulliableness gets you… finding out the reality can be brutally painful and mind altering.

You then see Bill slitting her dress open revealing her back and then growing excited over revealing her skin. He then removes her shirt and tosses it out the back of the van (leaving evidence/a trail as serial killers do sometimes inorder to distract people/investigators) and then driving off with his victim still unconscious.... meaning she as the representation of americans is unknowing or unaware of reality.

We next see Clarrise back at the FBI building engaged in sparing/boxing with her fellow agents. This scene informs the viewer that Clarrise is being “toughened up” for what she will soon have to deal with. As she is trying to adjust to the brutality of sparring she is called from training to meet with Crawford. As Clarrise follows the gentleman that called her from the sparring session, they are seen walking past another training exercise enacting a man being arrested by the FBI as he tried fleeing from them in a car… suggesting that Buffalos Capture is imminent/he won’t get away for long, since the government knows where and when to reign in its 'experiments' Clarrise is being informed at this time that the body of the white blonde female Bill abducted was found in Clay county West Virginia and it appears to be a Buffalo Bill handiwork. Meaning it bears the tell tale signs of an FBI trained serial killer Buffalo Bill.

Clarrise is seen on a small plane with Crawford traveling to West Virginia where the body of the blonde woman was found. On the way Crawford informs Clarisse of the manner in which the body was found and how Bill keeps his victims for three days (this may reference the crucifixion of Christ as well as reveal the manner of mind control used to train Bill, just as that televangelist on the TV was being used to "train" Hannibal), he then shoots them, skins them and then dumps the bodies in different rivers. Buffalo Bill engages in a ritualistic terror, torture and killing of his victims in the same manner as those who are followers of the Occult and/or have been sexually/psychologically/physically tortured/abused (keep this in mind). Buffalo Bill being another creation of the mind control programs, which are Masonic in origin, is carrying out their protocol for sacrificing persons and leaving those/communities who find them terrorized.

Once off the plane Crawford and Clarrise are driven to the funeral home where the body of the white female is. Along the way Crawford has given Clarrise a FBI report on the killing and asks Clarrise who she thinks has done this. Crawford is checking up on the skills of Clarrise at this point to see if she is capable of identifying the handiwork of the FBI in creating Buffalo Bill whom she has never seen. Clarrise being as much a FBI mind controlled created product as Buffalo Bill, but with different intentions, proceeds to give an eerily accurate description of Bill. While Clarrise described Buffalo Bill’s character(istics) Crawford never looks at Clarrise until she's finished. He then mumbles WOW and then faces her and says “not bad Starling”. He is acknowledging that her skill to decipher based on little tangible evidence is astonishing; Crawford is also checking the accuracy of the 'training' the FBI has imparted on to Clarrise. She is becoming like Hannibal to a degree, which makes her desirable FBI material.

Clarrise immediately jumps on the opportunity at this time to find out her standing for advancement within the FBI by asking Crawford why he has not commented on the report she submitted in regards to Hannibal and discovering who Buffalo Bill is. Crawford responded by saying had he sent her in with a real agenda of finding information on Buffalo Bill, Hannibal would have picked up on it and played mind games with her, destroying the whole outcome. What Crawford was saying to Clarrise is she may think she is ready for advancement, but she still has a long way to go and much to learn. As Hannibal is a mind controlled prototype too advanced to challenge… something she will learn later.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 20, 2011, 04:27:11 PM
Here we go with the next segment of The Silence Of The Lambs.

As Hannibal speaks he tells Clarrise about his desire to leave the compound (Behavioral Science Center) after being there eight years, but says he will never be allowed to leave alive. Hannibal knows he, as a prototype for the new ideal assassin/terrorist/soldier/mercenary, he will never be made known to the public as he is a secret government mind control experiment/process. Hannibal, in his bargaining with Clarrise, says he wants a view, a window, he wants to see water, a tree, to be away from Chilton. In movies and pictures a window means a future. What Hannibal actually desires is to have some use/purpose/life other than being a decipherer of behaviors of individuals the government deems of interest as well as a desire for this torturous life he has courtesy of Dr. Chilton, to come to an end.

Clarrise then asks Hannibal about a fledgling killer ( a reference to Buffalo Bill) which Hannibal responds that he is offering her a psychological profile of Buffalo Bill based upon the case evidence. Here we see that Hannibal’s main government use is to analyze suspects/persons of interest. Hannibal then informs Clarrise that he will help her catch him, which brings her from a seated to a standing position. Keep in mind Clarrise is desperate to climb the FBI ranks and in her mind catching Buffalo Bill is her ticket up. Clarrise then asks Hannibal if he knows Buffalo Bill? She then asks Hannibal who decapitated his patient (remember Hannibals patient is MOFET, an acronym for a mind control program operating out of Israel. The term decapitation means - who ended the MOFET program)? Hannibal responds that good things come to those who wait… referencing that her advancement in the FBI from solving this case will come in time. Hannibal then says Buffalo Bill is searching out his next victim.

At this time the scene changes to a white blonde female driving a car in Memphis Tennessee down a dark lonely street, while blasting a song called American Girl (http://www.elyrics.net/read/t/tom-petty-lyrics/american-girl-lyrics.html). A song telling of the great benefits of being an American, even though it is a life filled with dissatisfaction and even death despite the promise of happiness.  

We then are shown Buffalo Bill wearing night vision goggles(darkness represents hidden knowledge/ignorance/unknowing) as he watches this blonde white female pull into the dark parking lot of the building she lives in. This dark scene informs the viewer that Bill is learned/trained/can see into something that everyone else is ignorant to/unknowing of. As she gets out of her car, Bill is seen trying to put a large chair into the back of a van, which he is incapable of as one of his hands is in a cast. This white woman (representing an ideal American) seeing his dilemma, offers assistance. This scene attempts to shows the gullibleness, naivety and generosity of Americans.... even though it can be the crux of trouble. She approaches this stranger (Bill) and asks if he needed help? He says yes and asks if she could help him lift the chair into the van (dangerous generosity), which she does. Once in the van with the woman, Bill punches her multiple times in the face with the cast knocking her out cold (Iron hand in a velvet glove). This scene informs the viewer of what naivety/ignorance/gulliableness gets you… finding out the reality can be brutally painful and mind altering.

You then see Bill slitting her dress open revealing her back and then growing excited over revealing her skin. He then removes her shirt and tosses it out the back of the van (leaving evidence/a trail as serial killers do sometimes inorder to distract people/investigators) and then driving off with his victim still unconscious.... meaning she as the representation of americans is unknowing or unaware of reality.

We next see Clarrise back at the FBI building engaged in sparing/boxing with her fellow agents. This scene informs the viewer that Clarrise is being “toughened up” for what she will soon have to deal with. As she is trying to adjust to the brutality of sparring she is called from training to meet with Crawford. As Clarrise follows the gentleman that called her from the sparring session, they are seen walking past another training exercise enacting a man being arrested by the FBI as he tried fleeing from them in a car… suggesting that Buffalos Capture is imminent/he won’t get away for long, since the government knows where and when to reign in its 'experiments' Clarrise is being informed at this time that the body of the white blonde female Bill abducted was found in Clay county West Virginia and it appears to be a Buffalo Bill handiwork. Meaning it bears the tell tale signs of an FBI trained serial killer Buffalo Bill.

Clarrise is seen on a small plane with Crawford traveling to West Virginia where the body of the blonde woman was found. On the way Crawford informs Clarisse of the manner in which the body was found and how Bill keeps his victims for three days (this may reference the crucifixion of Christ as well as reveal the manner of mind control used to train Bill, just as that televangelist on the TV was being used to "train" Hannibal), he then shoots them, skins them and then dumps the bodies in different rivers. Buffalo Bill engages in a ritualistic terror, torture and killing of his victims in the same manner as those who are followers of the Occult and/or have been sexually/psychologically/physically tortured/abused (keep this in mind). Buffalo Bill being another creation of the mind control programs, which are Masonic in origin, is carrying out their protocol for sacrificing persons and leaving those/communities who find them terrorized.

Once off the plane Crawford and Clarrise are driven to the funeral home where the body of the white female is. Along the way Crawford has given Clarrise a FBI report on the killing and asks Clarrise who she thinks has done this. Crawford is checking up on the skills of Clarrise at this point to see if she is capable of identifying the handiwork of the FBI in creating Buffalo Bill whom she has never seen. Clarrise being as much a FBI mind controlled created product as Buffalo Bill, but with different intentions, proceeds to give an eerily accurate description of Bill. While Clarrise described Buffalo Bill’s character(istics) Crawford never looks at Clarrise until she's finished. He then mumbles WOW and then faces her and says “not bad Starling”. He is acknowledging that her skill to decipher based on little tangible evidence is astonishing; Crawford is also checking the accuracy of the 'training' the FBI has imparted on to Clarrise. She is becoming like Hannibal to a degree, which makes her desirable FBI material.

Clarrise immediately jumps on the opportunity at this time to find out her standing for advancement within the FBI by asking Crawford why he has not commented on the report she submitted in regards to Hannibal and discovering who Buffalo Bill is. Crawford responded by saying had he sent her in with a real agenda of finding information on Buffalo Bill, Hannibal would have picked up on it and played mind games with her, destroying the whole outcome. What Crawford was saying to Clarrise is she may think she is ready for advancement, but she still has a long way to go and much to learn. As Hannibal is a mind controlled prototype too advanced to challenge… something she will learn later.


I wish you would shut the fuck up, and the original poster would come back and tell us more.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 20, 2011, 04:53:05 PM
I wish you would shut the fuck up, and the original poster would come back and tell us more.

Such a glowing example of intelligence completely arrested since youth....lol

Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 21, 2011, 09:11:41 AM
Samson, I don't mind reading these, but there is no way on earth you came up with them.....no f'n way..... and I thought the thread was supposed to be what "we" picked-up? 
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 21, 2011, 10:14:41 AM
Samson, I don't mind reading these, but there is no way on earth you came up with them.....no f'n way..... and I thought the thread was supposed to be what "we" picked-up? 

Everyone is entitled to offer their opinion on this film...AND NO ONE DID. So I am carrying the torch.

Thank you for the compliment...that means the evaluation/interpretation of the film has impressed you. Be ready to be more impressed as the better parts and interpretations are to come. Going frame by frame can be time consuming, but i think it gives a complete understanding of what the REAL message of the film is. Maybe I will do the WIZARD OF OZ next...it too is not at all what you think it is.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 21, 2011, 11:02:47 AM
Everyone is entitled to offer their opinion on this film...AND NO ONE DID. So I am carrying the torch.

Thank you for the compliment...that means the evaluation/interpretation of the film has impressed you. Be ready to be more impressed as the better parts and interpretations are to come. Going frame by frame can be time consuming, but i think it gives a complete understanding of what the REAL message of the film is. Maybe I will do the WIZARD OF OZ next...it too is not at all what you think it is.


Oh, I find it entertaining, but just wondering what website you pulled it from...  ;D
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 22, 2011, 02:18:54 PM
Samson, come clean, where did you dig up this lol stuff from?  I gotta admit, it's a funny read, did you really come up with it?  If so, lol....
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: boonasty on February 24, 2011, 03:37:57 PM
should i be reading samson's posts in this thread?
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 25, 2011, 07:09:56 AM
should i be reading samson's posts in this thread?

They are actually kinda interesting, but just a bit overwhelming that a casual viewer would come up with all of that on their own.....
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: chaos on February 27, 2011, 12:12:28 PM
Maybe I will do the WIZARD OF OZ next...it too is not at all what you think it is.

Do the Wizard now........I wanna see what you got!! :D
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 28, 2011, 08:27:27 AM
Do the Wizard now........I wanna see what you got!! :D

Not until I finish Silence of the Lambs. You think you have the real interpretation of the movie? Some have tried equating it with the financial system...that is not it at all. In this case, the Wizard of Oz is about Politics, Human Rights, the Elite and Societal Development and Destruction.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 28, 2011, 09:21:55 AM
Here we go into the next installment of the interpretation of Silence of the Lambs

We find Clarrise and Crawford coming up the drive way of the funeral home where the body of the woman found in the river in West Virginia is being examined. As they enter the funeral home, notice the GREEN that seems to be everywhere: carpeting, wall paper, curtains, paint, examination room etc etc. This green represents MONEY and with the FBI and State troopers and state attorney’s office involved in this case there will be lots of money involved and needed in investigating this crime. These terrorist/sniper/abduction etc cases are ways these departments continue getting their funding, just as local police make claims of crime to justify expenditure, new hires, new weapons and no terminations due to state budget. Crawford enters the room first with Clarrise close behind… a subtle reference to him keeping a close eye/watch on his/FBI’s prime new trainee. The camera then does a number of close ups on Clarrise for no real reason, but it does show her blue eyes, her red/pink lipstick and her white skin. This color combination is a lot like the american flag, but it is different in that the colors are washed out as opposed to the rich red, white and blue of the flag (remember this). Crawford in an attempt to discuss the case of this dead woman in the funeral home speaks with the sheriff and asks for some privacy away from the room they are in which is filled with cops, who the FBI sees as low intelligence thugs of little capability. Also the FBI do not want the police discovering that Buffalo Bill and this crime he committed are a part of a FBIs mind control program.  Crawford and the sheriff leave the room leaving Clarisse in the room with the many cops all looking at her like she is their next meal… a bit of a power play here as this scene depicts the real life power the FBI and other letter agencies have over state’s troopers, police, attorney’s office, Sheriffs etc. Clarrise is visibly shaken (she is still a FBI rookie) by this onslaught of eyes staring down on her and this once again shows she is not necessarily ready for the job at hand. You’ll notice that Crawford was unphased by the presence of the sheriff or the cops…as he knows his authority over them.

Turning her attention away from the staring eyes, Clarrise looks through a folding partition wall/door into a parlor room in the funeral home where many people are milling about…some sort of memorial service for the slain woman is taking place. As she does this she immediately begins having a flash back of her own father’s funeral and in her mind actually sees herself as a 10 year old again walking through the funeral home toward his body which lay in a casket. This scene of her as a 10 year old references INNOCENCE  and her father laying in that casket as the reality of life that is NOT so innocent that she had to deal with. As she continues in the flashback she plants a kiss on the cheek of her father and at the very instant she does, the door to the room that the sheriff and Crawford entered into to discuss the case, abruptly opens, which shatters that innocence of childhood as well as breaks her flashback. Crawford announces “Clarrise we are back here”. In this scene Crawford shatters Clarrises short stint at returning to an innocent time and making her realize here and now is the plane of reality that you will deal with and focus on and this reality is filled with death, pain, hurt and violence (this should remind you of the signs on that tree Clarisse passed early in the movie that said the same…(it is the reality of being in the FBI).

We next see Crawford on a telephone with someone asking for the help/things he needs for solving the case. Clarrise at this point begins to show some authority as she asks the police, who fill the examination room the dead woman’s body is in, to leave. At first she asks with trepidation for the cops to leave the room, and when they fail to respond she asks again with more authority…such as the FBI would have and would exert toward anyone/agency getting in their way . Each cop at first looks her up and down as though to say ‘who are you telling to leave’. It is at this point Clarrise exerts her authority more commenting that there is nothing more that they can do and that all they have done so far would be well looked well upon by the dead woman’s family. Again this is a reference to the FBI not wanting the cops to discover anything in this case that equates the FBI with this murder; it also shows the FBIs opinion that cops are intellectually lacking. Grudgingly the cops leave the examination room. Notice again that even the examination room is this kind of sick green color..referencing a sick amount of MONEY will be made and needed in this case

Now that the cops are out of the room the examination starts. Before revealing the dead woman’s body which is in a body bag, Crawford puts a special cream under his nose to help deal with the odor of the decomposing body. Crawford passes the jar of cream around to all of the persons in the room and when the cream is passed to Clarrise you’ll notice she grabs it very delicately like it is a jar of  face cream… again indicating not ready for this difficulty and that she is new to this. She then turns around so no one can see as she puts dabs of the cream under her nose…once again revealing she is not really ready for the gory/tough aspects the job requires. (remeber) Like I said in the earlier post, the sparring represented she was being toughened up…this is one of those “tough times” she now has to deal with.

The coroner then unzips the bodybag and as soon as he does the decomposing odor fills the room…so much so that even the “hardened” agents back up and are repelled. Showing that despite much exposure to extreme cases, there are some that the FBI find extreme to handle. Crawford then calls Clarrise over to do an examination of the body (again testing her abilities). At that moment Clarrise’s back is to the dead body and her face shows the discomfort of the smell of the body, but she turns to face the body and nervously and with a great deal of shock, begins recording the aspect of the mutilated dead woman. After getting over her initial shock, Clarrises expertise and confidence begins to show (toughening up working) and grow as she goes further into the examining… this scene speaks of her “hardening/growing used to” the demands of the jobs requirements. As Clarrise is doing this examination a photographer takes pictures of the body and in one picture of the victim’s mouth, Clarrise notices something in her throat. It is at this time the cocoon pod is discovered and removed and it is revealed someone has placed the cocoon in her throat. This cocoon has multiple meaning…first it is representative of the formation of a butterfly and you all know from my earlier post that the butterfly is the symbol for the MONARCH PROJECT. Secondly the cocoon represents transformation which is what a caterpillar goes through before becoming a butterfly… sort of a ugly duckling turning into a beautiful swan (keep this in mind) and lastly the cocoon in the victims throat represents SILENCING the person by gagging their ability to make sounds/speak. While the body is being investigated Clarrise puts the cocoon into a small jar and fills it with ether to preserve it. Remember Clarrise making the statement to Hannibal earlier on about serial killers saving/keeping “trophies” of their victims… well here is the FBI saving/keeping a trophy of its own handiwork. Remember the FBI created Buffalo Bill and this woman is a victim of his/FBIs handiwork and those earlier scenes of Crawford, Chilton and Clarrise putting pens in their mouths speak of the same insertion of these cocoons down the throat of the victims…essentially the FBI revealed this as a method of their operation.

As the examination continues the dead victim is flipped over to her stomach so her back can be scene and shocking mutilations are found and as Clarrise begins recoding the details of the mutilation and the photographer begins taking pictures the coroner backs up to the corner of the room and very slyly makes the TIGER PAW/DEVIL’S CLAW (http://www.whale.to/b/devil_claw.html) hand sign (very similar to the hand in the jacket in pictures of Napoleon…he too was a Mason). This is to show Masonic/government involvement in this murder.

We then see Crawford and Clarrise in a car and as they go, Crawford turns around in the front seat to face Clarrise who is in the back and says "I hope you weren’t burned that he told the sheriff that he did not want to talk in front of a woman about the case of the dead woman". Clarrise responds that it is “just matters”. Crawford is once again letting Clarrise know that she is not ready to handle all that will come her way in being a part of the FBI. The fact she is a woman will prove an obstacle in that she will never be looked at as a man would be in the FBI..hence her problems with the male cops in the funeral home who looked down on her and had a dismissive attitude toward her when she asked that they leave. Crawford was also at the same time is attempting to pacify any resentment she may have had toward being left out of the “male only” discussion of the case. Clarrise attempts to show she is not bothered about it by saying over and over it is “just matters”, but makes a point of saying to Crawford that the male cops look up to him to see how to act… another reference to the double standard women have to accept in their attempt at advancement. Crawford then remarks “point well taken”…meaning, he hope she understands this "MALE" aspect of being in the FBI and at the same time he is glad she understands this IS an aspect of the FBI. Clarrise then goes on to continue her dictation in a recording device about the condition of the dead woman and all the aspects/evidence she discovered during the examination….

STAY TUNED!!!
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 28, 2011, 09:33:51 AM
should i be reading samson's posts in this thread?

Obviously you already are
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 28, 2011, 09:37:21 AM
They are actually kinda interesting, but just a bit overwhelming that a casual viewer would come up with all of that on their own.....

Again thanks for the compliments.... I don't view movies or music CASUALLY as they all have messages behind the meaning/entertainment presented to you. Silence of the Lambs like the Matrix and many other films deceives the casual viewer easily with special effects, symbology and popular actors...many of whom often don't know or see the message in the very film they portrayed a character in.

Just keep reading the installments.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Omega on March 03, 2011, 10:03:26 AM
Interesting and Samson is correct with films, adverts etc being heavily laden with hidden messages, symbols etc.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 03, 2011, 10:24:11 AM
Interesting and Samson is correct with films, adverts etc being heavily laden with hidden messages, symbols etc.

Yes. Stanley Kubrick's "The Shining" was a real eye opener about the fake moon landings
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: jwb on March 26, 2011, 03:31:42 PM
I always like how people think films are planned down to the second before they are shot to get a certain message or agenda across when the reality is there is hours of extra footage and scenes shot and the whole film is cut and recut (edited) many times always in order to trim time because the studio wants as many viewings per night as possible.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 26, 2011, 11:02:27 PM
I always like how people think films are planned down to the second before they are shot to get a certain message or agenda across when the reality is there is hours of extra footage and scenes shot and the whole film is cut and recut (edited) many times always in order to trim time because the studio wants as many viewings per night as possible.

Yet I know of 5 people who put a youtube clip where all 5 have over 1 millon views and every one of them have dissected every single word said in their clips. Movies in over a million dollars in Hollywood are dissected to mars and back. Anyone who says they aren't are for sure COINTELSCHMOE or retarded, Which one are you?
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: GigantorX on March 30, 2011, 06:02:25 AM
Update this, I'm bored!

I demand it!
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on March 30, 2011, 06:58:43 AM
Ok, Samson, are you fucking finished now?  I've been waiting for you to finish up so say so now if you've got more... People are waiting....
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: GigantorX on March 30, 2011, 08:09:31 AM
Ok, Samson, are you fucking finished now?  I've been waiting for you to finish up so say so now if you've got more... People are waiting....

I'm having a fucking stroke ova' here, post the shit! I can't read about Obama, communists and the collapse of America for much longer before I take dive off of my  7th floor balcony of my condo that costs 5k a month and land on my Ferrari!
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on March 30, 2011, 08:50:14 AM
I'm having a fucking stroke ova' here, post the shit! I can't read about Obama, communists and the collapse of America for much longer before I take dive off of my  7th floor balcony of my condo that costs 5k a month and land on my Ferrari!
I'll get back on it here soon, in the next day or so.  I've gotten several pms on this so I will get it going.  

Samson, if you've got a final post, please finish it up.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 30, 2011, 12:51:47 PM
I'm having a fucking stroke ova' here, post the shit! I can't read about Obama, communists and the collapse of America for much longer before I take dive off of my  7th floor balcony of my condo that costs 5k a month and land on my Ferrari!


DAAMNNNNNNNNNNN.... Is it that bad??? Suicide from the seventh floor by crashing headlong into a Ferrari?????

OK, then I am onto the next episode. I wondered whether to continue as I kept getting the dumbass responses from some and no rebuttal  or commentary from the rest so I was taking my time. I guess fro the sake of saving a life i will hurry up the next installment.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 30, 2011, 02:10:00 PM
Ok, Samson, are you fucking finished now?  I've been waiting for you to finish up so say so now if you've got more... People are waiting....

Yay!  I'm still here!
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 30, 2011, 06:31:38 PM
Silence Of The Lambs Continues ( I hope this saves some people from suicide and reduces the HIGH TENSION over not getting the episodes out faster. Sorry...I will be quicker from now on.

Dr. Chilton hears Hannibal revealing the details of Buffalo Bill to Clarrise he comes to the knowledge that his “patient”: Hannibal, is compromising the security of his mind control program as well as possibly destroying his career should this information go public

The scene changes quickly to the dungeon basement of Buffalo Bill where he has the daughter of Ruth Martin:Catherine, in a dry well. Remember this is all an act to get funding for this mind control program to be expanded. We see Buffalo Bill talking to Catherine telling her to rub lotion on her skin lest she get hosed down with water…This lotion is to keep her skin supple as he uses the flesh/skin of his victims to make clothing. Catherine screams in fear and announces that her family is well off/important and will pay CASH for her release. In short her abduction will make all the money needed available for this mind control program expansion.

While Buffalo Bill makes this demand for her to lotion her skin he holds a small white poodle, which represents the only thing he loves and more importantly trusts, as dogs don’t talk (humans do) or reveal secrets …which he has plenty. The scene continues with Catherine Martin(Hostage) pleading for her release, while Buffalo Bill lowers a small basket down the dry well to retrieve the lotion he has given her to rub all over her body. Notice he refers to Catherine as IT and not as her/she or even her name. This plays into how mind controlled individuals can not see something or someone as they really are his  mind has been manipulated to see (as in this case) a human being as a thing…IE military soldiers who reference people in other nations as “enemies, insurgents, terrorist, resistance, opposition” etc etc are perfect examples to show how their minds have been manipulated to see differently…This labeling dehumanizes and makes it easier to commit the acts of violence and depravity against another person/nation ie: Abu Graib, Vietnam, Japan, Guantanamo Bay, Afghanistan, Libya etc etc…as we see in this movie and in the real world.

Another fast scene change brings the viewer to the Behavioral Research Center where Dr. Chilton has had Hannibal placed in a straight jacket and a face guard…referencing that Hannibal is his mind controlled program and he is not letting control of it into anyone else’s hand but his own nor is he allowing the expansion of the operation, as he wants full control over it. Here is something for you to think about…If Hannibal is so violent, how did they get him into that straight jacket? (answer at end of page)

As Hannibal is strapped to this gurney type device, Dr Chilton is lying on Hannibal’s bed in the cell that Hannibal is kept in, referencing that Dr Chilton is just as mentally demented as the patients he deals with. While lying there Chilton keeps sticking a gold Cross pen into his mouth and tapping it on his teeth. Once again as I said before these tell tale signs inform the viewer that the murders committed by these “killers” are done though mind control and all of the aspects of the murder (cocoons in throat, skinning, heavyset women etc etc) are all aspects programmed into their minds. This pen in the mouth goes back to the techniques “taught” to these killers by the FBI of gagging the victims or finishing the grisly murder by placing the cocoons down their throats. Seems Dr Chilton can not stop unveiling their protocol by referencing it by opening his mouth and putting this pen in it or he is trying to strike fear in Hannibal that this same thing will be done to him if he does not comply with telling who Buffalo Bill is.

Chilton asks the guard, who has been in the room with him and Hannibal, to leave and then turns to Hannibal and says there was never a deal with Senator Martin of Hannibal being moved to Plum Island in New York or to him having a one week vacation time to swim in the ocean, walk on the beach or access to books as Clarrsie promised. Instead Chilton has struck a new deal with senator Ruth Martin (hostages mother) that if Hannibal reveals the name of Buffalo Bill and Senator Ruth’s daughter (Catherine) is found alive he:Hannibal, would be transferred to a prison in Tennessee. This “prison” in Tennessee is either under Chilton’s control or he has/will have great influence over what goes on in it as he says moving Hannibal there is to his: Chilton’s benefit. All of this reveals a change in plans to where the new mind control program will be located/expanded to…not New York, but now Tennessee, and who will be in charge. Dr. Chilton then takes pleasure in telling Hannibal that HE HAS BEEN SCAMMED into this false belief of a new better facility with vacation, books and swims on the beach by Clarise. Dr. Chilton thinks Hannibal does not know this, but truth is Hannibal is fully aware and instead of being scammed… Hannibal is about to scam Chilton and quite a few others(remember Hannibal is EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT… and designed to be so).

Dr Chilton then threatens Hannibal that if does not reveal the name of Buffalo Bill, he will make sure he never leaves the facility he is now in… Hannibal … informs Chilton that Bills real name is Louis (to Chilton’s elation), but he reveals nothing more saying he will speak to senator Martin in Tennessee and elaborate further IF his condition are met (notice at this time the gold Cross pen Chilton left on the bed disappears).  Here is where the dirtiness of politics comes in. Just as Catherine is being held in a dry well as a means of getting government funding to expand this mind control program…now we have another person (Chilton) trying to beat everyone else to the punch by getting the name of Buffalo Bill first, so he can present it and get the funding to move the mind control program to Tennessee where he will control it.

A quick scene change again and the viewer is looking at a helicopter view of Washington DC’s Capital, Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial in the background, letting the viewer know that it is the highest level of government behind all of this. Another quick scene change has the viewer in the Washington DC office of Crawford who is on the phone with a high level FBI officer who informs him that Hannibal will be transferred to Tennessee (something Crawford is unaware of). He then asks Crawford if he had a “trainee”: Clarrise, make a phony offer to Hannibal that he would be transferred to New York. Crawford admits he did and claims he did so in hopes of getting Hannibal to confess to who Buffalo Bill is. Here we once again have politics showing its face. Crawford is pretending to have made this offer as a deal to try and get evidence, when in truth he too was trying to get money out of the deal by secretly helping in transferring Hannibal the patient and Hannibal the mind control program to New York…This upper level FBI agent then informs Crawford that senator Martin is angry as hell and made no arrangements or agreements to a New York move and Hannibal will not only be transferred to Tennessee, but the handling of this case is now out of the hands of Crawford and has been given over to a new person named Paul Crennler from the justice department. Here we also have exposure of senator Ruth Martin in making money off of this program… as she will now get greater kickbacks/rewards agreeing to the move to Tennessee. Chilton has managed to undermine him and all others in that regard and will now have control over the program which will be moved to Tennessee.

Now as Crawford was talking to Burke (the high level FBI agent) on the wall in Burkes office is a large picture of George Bush Sr. This photo and scene references the new America or NWO that George Bush announced in the same year this movie was made. At the same that it is announced that the new agent: Crennler of the justice department, would be taking the case over from Crawford, the camera pans over to him and behind him is a large picture of Herbert Hoover. Herbert Hoover created the FBI as a means of surveillance of the American public (Big Brother) these two scenes are important as they reveal a new America, different from the old where the government opinion of America and Americans has changed to one of DISTRUST and with that increased violations of the publics trust and rights and privacy.

Another quick scene change to the Memphis International airport where Hannibal has just arrived with a virtual army of cops, investigators and MIB. Hannibal is on a gurney being led to a secret hanger to meet senator Martin. He reaches a point where the police inform him to NOT be a problem and all should go well. As he awaits, we see Dr. Chilton gleefully coming to see Hannibal. Remember he is happy that he now has control over the Hannbal program and person.

The police hand Chilton some paper work to sign custody of Hannibal over to him… it is at this point he realizes he does NOT have the gold cross pen he had earlier and is given a pen by one of the cops to sign for custody. It is at this time the viewer is made aware of the craftiness of Hannibal and the fact that he is in possession of this pen. What will he do with it?

Soon Senator Ruth martin shows up in her limousine with an entourage of security for her protection. Dr. Chilton has security take Hannibal over to Ms. Martin where Chilton proudly introduces Hannibal to her; Hannibal is straight jacketed, face gagged and shackled. Once again reminding that Hannibal, the program, is completely under Chilton’s control and the face gag representing that nothing will be said about this program to anyone..utmost secrecy of this program that has now been moved to Tennessee.

Dr. Chilton with a broadly smiling face announces Hannibal to Senator Martin where she says to Hannibal that she has brought an affidavit guaranteeing him his new rights and that he may wish to read them before she signs the document. Notice here that government is now admitting that it decides what your rights are and can change them at their will. Hannibal quickly announces that he will not waste his time or Catherine’s (hostage) time bargaining for petty privileges. Again notice that he sees the rights of people as petty privileges. Hannibal is making it known that he will NOT operate under anyone’s restrictions but his own. He then says Clarrise and Crawford have already wasted too much time already and may have doomed Cathrine already. Hannibal is saying for the sake of everyone trying to get their hands in the money box by trying to make deals on where he and the Hannibal mind control program will be expanded to, and dragging out the time in which Buffalo Bill has to kill Catherine…it may be to late already. Hannibal then says he will help senator Martin now and will trust her promises when it is all over. In short saying he will see how true she is to her word once her daughter: Catherine, is rescued from Buffalo Bill.

Hannibal begins by revealing to Ms. Martin that Buffalo Bill’s name is Louis Friend and he came to know him byway of a patient (remember Hannibal was once a doctor) of his: Benjamin Raspell who was Louis’s lover. Raspell did not stay with Louis long as Louis killed a homeless man and butchered the body and skinned the victim. It can be seen here that all of these “patients” of Hannibal were mentally manipulated to become the same type of murderous killers (keep in mind Hannibal is a person and a mind control program too). As Hannibal describes this killing, senator Martin is shaken as she believes her daughter will have the same done to her by Buffalo Bill (remember all of this is being done as a threat to a congresswoman to make her/congress fund the mind control program, by using her daughter as a hostage/victim).

Hannibal is asked by one of the investigators for a description of Buffalo Bill…which instead of giving it Hannibal begins asking senator Martin if she ever breast fed Catherine..much to her shock.. Ms Martin responds by saying Yes, in hopes it would help saving her daughter. Instead Hannibal begins asking her if it toughened her nipples?  (Dr. Chilton is horrified at Hannibal’s questioning as well) Hannibal then goes on to say when a man loses his leg he still feels the tickling of where the leg once was…then he asks when you daughter is on the slab where will it tickle you? Ms. Martin seeing how Hannibal (the program) really is and how intimately he can delve into ones most secret and even unrevealed secrets… she is horrified and requests Hannibal be taken back to Baltimore. In short the revelation of the Hannibal program of mind control and subversive information gathering is so good that it is frightening to the point of disturbing.

As Ms. Martin begins walking away, Hannibal yells out that Buffalo Bill (Louis)  description is five foot ten, 180 pounds, blond hair, strongly built , pale blue eyes, 35 years old, which stops Ms Martin dead in her tracks. The entourage Ms. Martin arrived with quickly scurry to verify the information. Hannibal at this point is making them aware that they need him very much (he does not need them) to solve this case. Also notice as Ms. Martin turns to walk away from Hannibal, her neck scar is wrapped and folded in such a way as to look like a Masonic Apron…Illuminati in control. Hannibal calls at her again and says “if I remember anything more I will let you know”…again making them all aware that they need him/this program. Hannibal then says he loves her suit… showing he himself has some slight gender identity issues.

STAY TUNED


BTW… How was Hannibal put into that straight jacket? Hannibal is a mind control program and a person. As a program he can be packaged and moved anywhere. As a mind controlled person the commands to control him can be called off at any time making him docile and controllable (remember the scenes in THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE where phone calls rendered Denzel Washington and Liev Schrieber practically mummies?) The same was done to Hannibal the person and while docile he was fitted into the suit.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: GigantorX on March 31, 2011, 09:35:39 AM
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuggggggggggggggggggggoo ooooooooooooooooooooooo?!

He's doing it again! Make him stop!
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 31, 2011, 12:52:16 PM
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggggggggggggooooooooooooooooooooooooo?!

He's doing it again! Make him stop!

I see reading this episode stopped you from committing suicide....was that a good thing?
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: GigantorX on March 31, 2011, 01:48:26 PM
I see reading this episode stopped you from committing suicide....was that a good thing?

Debatable
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: GigantorX on April 03, 2011, 03:54:45 PM
Seriously, where the fuck is this shit?
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 04, 2011, 11:17:25 PM
Here we go with the next installment of Silence Of The Lambs

As the last scene closed we saw Hannibal commenting about senator Martins suit…A slight revelation of Hannibal maybe having some gender issues. The scene now opens with a helicopter view of downtown Shelby County Tennessee where Hannibal is being held, and a quick scene change reveals Dr. Chilton absolutely beaming in front of reporters telling them how they have now discovered the name of Buffalo Bill thanks to Hannibal and how it will help in the finding of Catherine Martin (senator Martin’s daughter) who is Buffalo Bill’s hostage. All of this grandstanding Chilton is doing before the reporters is once again to get money for this mind control program, as well as self promotion. All before, Chilton was hell bent on keeping the mind control program(Hannibal) a secret, now he is beginning to reveal the NEED for it by publicly saying IT (the Hannibal program) will be used to track, discover and save lives such as senator Martins daughter as well as find other serial killers who terrorize the public

As Dr. Chilton speaks, a reporter asks for the real name of Buffalo Bill, which Chilton quickly diverts to telling another reporter his own name. This has two purposes: In saying his own name, it revealed him as the serial killer, because it is the mind control program that he oversees that created the likes of Buffalo Bill and Hannibal… so Chilton is in a way the killer. Second the reason there is so much difficulty in discovering Buffalo Bill’s real identity is Buffalo Bill was created by Hannibal and therefore only Hannibal can know the workings of his mindset and what he will do and where he will strike next. Dr. Chilton is crafty to say the least and also knows in order to keep control over Hannibal, the case and keeping anyone else from discovering who Buffalo Bill really is first, he must be vague and appear to always be at the precipice of capture/discovery/revelation of Buffalo Bill. Doesn’t this sound so much like politicians and Osama Bin Laden (or any other supposed terrorist) and the game politicians play in making the public feel as though capture is imminent? All the while they milk the government for money as it supposedly is needed for weapons, troops, machinery yadda yadda yadda…which supposedly will help capture the guy.

A quick scene change finds Clarrise walking into the building where Hannibal is being kept. She is confronted by two police officers who give her a hard time about seeing Hannibal, as Chilton has made it clear to them that no one is to deal with/see Hannibal but himself. She is told Hannibal is getting death threats (excuses, red tape, distractions to keep anyone away) and therefore access to him is restricted. It would seem that a serial killer as Hannibal is, one would be glad if someone or a cop shot him dead, but Hannibal is a government product/project/property and must be protected…can you say Osama Bin Laden or the Bin Laden family, or Saddam, Hosni Mubarack etc etc they too are US puppets/products/property and are protected. Clarrise none the less is allowed in and has Hannibal’s artwork (pacifying tool), which was confiscated from him as punishment a while back, to give to him..

As Clarrise travels up on the elevator to where Hannibal is, a security guard who is accompanying her, asks if Hannibal is a vampire? This questioning reveals two things; one is the government knows how to keep things secret because even these police men/sheriffs know nothing about him. Second, the lack of knowledge about Hannibal is a great way of spreading the fear necessary to guarantee funding, as this cop believing Hannibal is a vampire only intensifies the FEAR FACTOR amongst the public. Clarrise responds to the vampire question by saying “They don’t have a name for IT”. Again two fold one it feeds the fear factor even more and two she reveals that Hannibal is a Mind Control Program and therefore calls him IT.

As Clarrise enters a large room Hannibal is being kept in, the first thing that is noticed is the very large cage he is being kept in. This is not the type of cell a prisoner is kept in… it is more like the cell a animal in a zoo or circus is kept in or even a tropical fish tank that is decorated with coral, clam shells, sand etc etc so the fish feel at home. Around the cell are police barricades, yet no one is in or even allowed in the room…so what are the barricades for? All of this tells of Hannibal NOT being a killer, but a mind controlled subject who is now ON DISPLAY like a prized tiger/tropical fish for those who wish to see this “new creation” in action. The interior of the cell is not just a cell, but more of a crude hotel room with a bathroom, carpeting, lamps, desk, chairs, easels, tables etc etc.. Hannibal is being kept comfortable while on display just as a tiger would be as he is transported from city to city as the circus or zoo moves. Those who are coming to see him are by invite only as they (politicians, military) will be those who wish to have Hannibal (mind control program) as well. Also notice the strange washed out red, white and washed out blue colors painted on the walls and the contrasting vibrant red, white and blue banner that circles the room. It looks more like a political convention just took place (this references the fact that the US government is behind all of this)…this color scheme and banner is important and must be remembered as it will play a important role soon.

As Clarrise brings the drawings over to Hannibal….. without him even turning around to see her, Hannibal immediately knows it is her who has come to see him. Again the sophistication of Hannibal as a information gathering tool shows itself. Clarrise tries to pacify Hannibal with the artwork and by saying to him that he will be getting his “view” soon. The “view” was the false promises of a better prison, books, view of the ocean/outside she promised when she first met him. Clarrise seems to believe Hannibal still thinks what she told him about going to Plum Island is true. Little does she know that he knows the truth that he as a person will NOT get those things ever and all that she is saying is a LIE, and that he as a mind control program will be moved somewhere else other than New York.

Hannibal reveals that the only reason she has come is because he is aware that she and Crawford are booted off the case. He then comments about ANTHRAX ISLAND (Plum Island) informing her that Plum Island is not a animal reserve, but is a place of investigation/research into the worlds most virulent pathogens. Again he has uncovered her lies to her shock and has let her know that this supposed move to Plum Island is for even more research to be done on him in the sense of improving the mind control program even more. BTW Long Island (where Plum Island is was actually the place where the MONTAUK PROJECT was carried out and many mind control experiments conducted, so this Plum Island comment makes the viewer aware of this fact).

As he continues revealing the lies of Clarrise, he says people will think they are lovers for her always coming to see him. Here Hannibal is letting her know that the public will come to know the tie in between government and this mind control program because of the constant contact/involvement between the FBI and Hannibal… something Dr. Chilton is trying to beat everyone else to… as well as keep a secret.

Clarrise at this time begins to feel as though she can handle Hannibal intellectually and begins challenging him, but soon finds out she is mentally insufficient for the task. She informs Hannibal that the name Louis Friend he gave as the real name for Buffalo Bill is NOT his real name, but an anagram for IRON SULFIDE, which is known as FOOLS GOLD (a metal that looks like gold but isn’t). Hannibal has made a mockery of their/FBI’s intelligence and showed them he is intellectually superior to even the best when he told them Buffalo Bills name was Louis Friend… he was actually calling them FOOLS for thinking he would give up such important details so easily.

Clarrise realizing she only has a short time to ask Hannibal the questions necessary to discover who Buffalo Bill is before Dr. Chilton shows up, begins to panic as Hannibal refuses to give up the name, but informs her that his identity is right in the paperwork/case file she already has on Buffalo Bill…she just has to decipher it. Knowing her limited time, Clarrise begins demanding his name and Hannibal asks her to tell him why Buffalo Bill would do the things he does. He asks her a series of questions of which she could not answer…the point in Hannibal doing this is to show just how insufficiently equipped her intellect is in comparison to his as well as he is marketing himself as a “program” that is necessary. He then informs her that Buffalo Bill does what he does because he covets. In short he means he does this kidnapping and torture, because there is something about the person he sees and wants. Hannibal knows this, because this is what he has “trained” Bill to do.

(Here is where this movie gets really interesting and telling of what the colors mean and what the lambs mean)

Hannibal changes the course of the discussion and begins to question Clarrise about her childhood and why she was sent to live with her uncle and cousins after her father’s murder and why she ran away. As Hannibal questions Clarrise she tells of awakening one night or being in a dream state and hearing screaming coming from a barn on the property. She tells of going into the barn and hearing and seeing the lambs screaming in a child’s voice (Child represents people and innocence). This is telling that these lambs are not lambs, but are representations of people she was hearing scream. She then goes on to say she went to the barn and saw them screaming and tried saving them by opening the barn door in hopes they would run out and away.. .instead they just stood there not moving. Here Clarrise is talking about the lambs who represent a population of people who rather than saving themselves by putting up a fight, by learning what their governments are really about, what is really going on within their government or at least fleeing from the sick ideals of their government… marched head long into their death as their government is not concerned with their rights, life, pursuit of happiness, privacy etc etc…IT is only concerned with what is good for itself … something we all see today in governments around the world.

As a non-challenging society, people are referred to as sheep and then again as sheeple when they march headlong into their own death/destruction/enslavement/oppression by not taking opportunities to bring about change/challenge their government/resist and/or fight against those in their government that are their oppressors, which again is what these lambs (sheep) represent.. As Hannibal goes on with the questioning about what she did while all of this was happening, Clarrise speaks of grabbing and running away with one lamb which she took and ran with for a couple of miles, but because it was so cold and she was without food or water could not get far enough away to save the lamb, which she and the lamb were caught by the police and taken back to the farm and the lamb slaughtered. Here Clarrise is showing how even in her young years she was aware of the ills of government and those who carry out the will of government to slaughter/oppress/silence those in society it deemed troublesome such as civil rights leaders, union leaders, whistleblowers, community leaders, anyone who reveals the goings on of government or stands up to its will etc etc. Clarrise attempted in this dream or dream like state to save one lamb (a segment of the population) from the slaughter, but failed in the task as the resources of government to silence is greater than her ability to wake them up to reality and save them. Hannibal then asked now that she is an adult whether she still wakes up hearing the screaming of the lambs, which she answers yes. Clarrise knows what the government is becoming and knows that the new government is not like the old as it views society not as society, but as a threat to their own programs/wants that must be tamed, pacified, placated, subdued (mind controlled) and even SLAUGHTERED/SILENCED if needs be. Clarrise feels like if she could just wake up a segment of the population (get one lamb free) they can be saved from this, but it seems a losing battle as the population is too much in the SHEEPLE mindset to see. Clarrise whole purpose for joining the FBI was to bring about this possibility of finding out what government was about and then alerting the masses…unfortunately once in she became more obsessed with climbing up the ranks of the FBI than being concerned with the masses (I discussed this earlier in the first post where Clarrise is seen “training”, which was a representation of her hardening herself to the FBI standards and losing concern for people/citizens for the sake of promotion). Isn’t that how so many politicians are? Before being elected they champion the rights of the people, but once elected the people are the last things they think of.

Hannibal then ask her if she still wakes up in the dark to the screaming of the lambs? He then asks her if she thinks if she saved Catherine ( a lamb in the sense she has done nothing to be held hostage and killed) that she will no longer wake up to the screaming of the lambs?…which she replies she does not know. Once again the reference to Catherine by Hannibal as a lamb (innocent) being captured, screaming from fear/torture and desiring freedom from being slaughtered (either literally destroyed or mentally destroyed through lies, torture and programming). The dark in this situation represents the UNKNOWN as the people of a government/nation are in the dark or unknowing to/of what government’s goals/aspirations/doings/desires really are.

As Hannibal stalled in giving Clarrise the answer to Bill’s real name, Dr. Chilton with cops, walks into the room and tells Clarrise she not only must leave, but will be put on a plane back to Baltimore. Chilton is showing his control of the situation and power even over the FBI… so once again this goes to the highest levels of government.

Hannibal then says to Clarrise as she is being led off that she will tell him when those lambs stop screaming. Here Hannibal is saying that Clarrise will have to inform him when she has awoken the population or a segment of the population to what the government is really about/ what it is really doing… something unlikely to ever happen till it is too late.

As Clarrise is led away Hannibal screams out to her that she will want Bill’s case file which Hannibal holds in his hand for her to take. Clarrise breaks free of the cops and runs and grabs the large packet and just as she grabs the file Hannibal gently strokes her hands and says goodbye Clarrise. This is a reference to him knowing both she and Crawford will be off the case soon as well as the fact he knows their physical contact will be no more…

STAY TUNED
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 07, 2011, 10:33:03 PM
Silence Of The Lambs Interpreted

We next see a TWA airplane taking Clarrise back to Langley Virginia ( a quick shot of Washington DC is shown as the plane passes over).

A fast scene change see two prison guards entering into the room where Hannibal is kept in the crude hotel like cage. They are carrying a second dinner Hannibal requested of extra rare lamb chops. These rare lamb chops represent slaughtered innocent people as Clarrise had in her dreams. With the cops representing those who were responsible for leading the innocent (American populace in this case) to the slaughter. As the guards draw near to the cage, Hannibal is first handcuffed to the cage and then the guards enter in to bring him the meal. As the guards do this Hannibal who had swiped Dr. Chilton’s gold cross pen earlier while in the FBI Behavioral Science Labratory and swallowed it, regurgitated the clip portion of the pen which he uses as a lock picking device to break himself free of the handcuffs. Again the underestimation of the abilities of Hannibal, the mind controlled subject, shows itself here. Clearly these cops were not informed of his abilities as they should have been. To the guards shock Hannibal is free, is incredibly strong, is ferociously well trained for combat and he launches a brutal attack upon them, handcuffing one guard to the cage and then over powering the second guard where he bites him in the face and bashes him in the head until death with one of the cops batons. After completing a assassin/mercenary type killing of both cops, Hannibal picks up a small knife while listening to classical music and leaves the “cage”...Remember Hannibal is trained to perform in all situations like an expert. Here we see his COMBAT MODE of defense on display. He represents the brutality of a mercenary/assassin/well trained soldier.

On the first floor a group of cops notices the elevator begins traveling up to the 5th floor from the third floor where Hannibal is kept. As the cops gather together questioning who may have gone up on the elevator, on the first floor where they are standing is a giant Knights Templar Cross..also called the Maltese Cross… a symbol not only of freemasonry which controls law enforcement, but also the symbol used by the cops and especially the fire department as their symbol, moniker, badge to denote affiliation with THE ORDER (Masons). Soon shots are heard from the floors above and the elevator soon starts its downward descent back to the third floor. The commanding officer calls in for help requesting a SWAT team and an ambulance…once again the knowledge of Hannibal being more than NORMAL is suggested by the fact that this group of about twelve cops calls in for SWAT as well…they know Hannibal is capable of handling all of them so they need skilled backup.

With a small army of cops, the commanding officer heads to the third floor byway of the staircase and then enters onto the third floor only to find the elevator empty. As they move down the hallway to the room with the cage inside that held Hannibal, the first thing they notice through the frosted door before entering is what looks like a giant eagle/bird in flight. Bursting through the door they find that Hannibal has killed the cops and taken one and hanged him on the top of the crude hotel like cage and has his arms spread side to side giving him that appearance through the glass door of looking like an eagle, but face to face he appears like a person crucified…or should I say SACRIFICED.

Upon closer inspection it is noticed that Hannibal has wrapped the red, white and blue banner that was on the walls behind the cop’s back and attached it to his hands giving him an eagle or angel like appearance. Hannibal has used the small knife he took earlier to gut the now hanging cop, who has most of his intestines and internal organs on display. This scene has many purposes. One the banner used to make the cop appear like an angel or eagle is the rich red, white and blue colors of the US flag. The red white and blue represents the colors of America and what it is supposed to represent: democracy, freedom, security, rights, constitution, honesty etc etc. In the same room the colors on the wall are of washed out and faded red, white and blue representing that America now is NOT like the old/used to be, where the constitution is now replaced by the Patriot Act, where privacy is violated continuously, where your guilty until proven innocent, where the government is really fascist and honesty/pride is something long forgotten. The red white and blue banner also represents the red shirts and blue shirts (remember what they mean?) , it represents the supposed democratic and republican sides of america, it represents the left and right, it represents the constitution, it represents a symbol of democracy etc etc. In between these red and blue stripes is the white stripe that represents the people of the land who are like LAMBS (white ad innocent) ignorantly caught between these political systems that are trying to take control of them. They (citizens) are innocent in that they truly believe they live in a country where their vote counts, their voice can bring about change, that it is a democracy, that they are safe and secure from the tyranny that is their government as they believe they can vote out terrible government/officials and elect new/better etc... NONE OF WHICH IS TRUE. Truth of the matter is some have come to the realization that what America represents is a LIE and the fight to not only achieve the things the country and its flag represents, but to also help others to realize they to have been deceived and they must also fight against this government which is actually fascist and has the worst intent imaginable for the masses

The cop represents those who would uphold the law, it also represents the people’s rights as citizens and it represents the Constitution…as you can see the cutting away of the abdominal by Hannibal represents the GUTTING of all three. As you see today around the world cops are the biggest abusers/violators of people’s rights, the US constitution has been over taken by the PATRIOT ACT and updates to old laws that now supersede the constitution; and any group protesting any new laws, rules, regulations etc are quickly jailed/beaten to a pulp…welcome to the New World Order. Remember I said earlier that the photos of George Bush Sr. and Herbert Hoover in the FBI headquarters represented the NWO as well as the police state. Hoover created the FBI which was followed by the CIA, NSA, Blackwater, Xe, and all too many other letter agencies whose main goal is to survey and watch over the US population (BIG BROTHER…CONTROL).

As the cops survey the room they find that one of the two officers (Pembray) is lying on the floor and is still alive. While the commanding cop calls in information on the state of the other officers and the possible whereabouts of Hannibal, the ambulances and SWAT cops show up and take (who the believe to be Pembray) to the ambulance. SWAT and ambulances rush the building and while taking “Penbray” down the elevator into the ambulance, they notice blood coming from the ceiling of the elevator. Believing Hannibal has been shot and is hiding out on the roof of the elevator, “Pembray” is rushed off once the first floor is reached and the cops swarm the elevator in hopes of catching Hannibal. SWAT rushes to the floors above the elevator and open the elevator doors to the shaft. Looking down they can see who they believe to be Hannibal laying on the roof of the elevator. A shot to “Hannibal’s” leg by one of the SWAT members causes no movement to “Hannibal”. The team of cops on the first floor decided to open the elevator ceiling door ( with their guns at the ready to shoot Hannibal) only to find the man on the roof is one of the two dead cops Pembray) who has had his face cut off by Hannibal.

While the cops are looking at the de-faced cop in the building elevator, the patient in the ambulance who they thought was officer Pembray gets up from the gurney, pulls off the false face (which was the face cut off of the real officer Pembray) and proceeded to kill the EMT technician, the driver and abandons the ambulance on the side of the road near the Memphis airport. Turns out it was Hannibal pretending to be the patient/cop all along. This part of the movie has multiple meanings. One it reveals how the government will bring its goals into fruition by putting a “different face” on law enforcement agents of all types. They will appear to be upholders of the law, but underneath they will be violators of the law, violators of human rights, act like animals, be provocateurs, and even killers when needed. This scene also shows how government will be able to get away with murder, by blaming someone else…False Flag anyone?

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Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 12, 2011, 08:01:14 PM
Silence of The Lambs Interpretation Continues…

Ardeliah the fellow officer of Clarrise at the FBI headquarters overhears on the phone about Hannibal getting away. The fact that this information has not been made public tells that somehow this Ardeliah person has access to information she should not be privy to…Or she is a part of the Hannibal escapade. Also notice she is wearing a BLUE SHIRT. Ardeliah quickly runs down the hall to inform Clarrise that Hannibal is on the loose and feels he is coming to kill Clarrise… something Clarrise denies when she hears of it. This means as a FBI agent and Hannibal being a FBI mind control subject…he would not seek to kill Clarisse as it would be a sign of one destroying/eating their own.

With the concern of Hannibal coming to kill her not in her thoughts Clarrise begins analyzing the notes Hannibal inscribed in the case file notes of Buffalo Bill with Ardelia. As the two of them go over the notes in an attempt to find out the name of Buffalo Bill, the scene of the movie and interaction of the two of them changes. First thing noticed is Clarrise who was in a bathrobe when the scene opened with Ardelia is now dressed in a funny looking shirt that is sort of pink/purple and black color scheme and Ardelia has on a plaid shirt that is the same funny looking pink/purple and black color as well. If you research colors, black signifies unconscious and mystery…deep meditation. In the aura it signifies some kind of blockage or something being hidden. The purple represents power, both earthly and spiritual. Purple is often used for mental disorders and becoming one with the spirit. Its aura denotes higher spiritual development. Meaning of Colors (http://www.new-age-spirituality.com/spirit/color.html). This scene is informing the viewer of the mind manipulation that is going on not only in Hannibal, but also Clarrise as she is as much mind controlled as Hannibal is and is using it to advance herself up in the FBI. The colors also tell of what they are dealing with at the moment. As everything they are handling is a mystery, it is mind boggling, it is dealing with Hannibal’s conscious mind to find out what he knows about Buffalo Bill as well as find out where Catherine is being held. It is dealing with Buffalo Bill who like Hannibal is operating on a higher level..complexity and with both he and Hannibal being mind controlled they both are in POWER modes as everyone is helpless around them and helpless to figure them out.

As Ardelia and Clarisse talk of the information in the notes on buffalo Bill… all of a sudden Ardelia begins to look directly at the camera and begins speaking as though she is under hypnosis as Clarrise asks her questions. Here we have an example of Clarrise using the mind control technique she has learned on Ardelia. She is actually manipulating Ardelia’s mind in hopes of getting her to analyze the information about Buffalo Bill more deeply in order to find the clues to buffalo Bills identity. Ardelia then snaps out of the trance realizing they have just discovered some more clues they did not know before in finding Buffalo Bills identity.

A quick scene change and the viewer is looking at a bridge leading to Belvedere Ohio where one of Buffalo Bills victims was found. Clarrise is heading to Belveder to meet the father of the Fredricka who was found in the river (she is the woman who had the cocoon in her throat). Upon entering Belvedere, a poor/ working class town Clarrise enters onto the property of  Mr. Bimmel (the father of the killed woman: Fredricka). As she steps onto the property there are instances of the washed out red, white and blue motif about, that signifies America as being different than it once was… which this property represents it. A woman in a green shirt sits looking longingly out a green window…remember green in represents MONEY and it is money she longs for that will help her get out of this condition she lives in. As Clarrise approaches Mr. Bimmel she notices animal skins hanging on the outside of a small barn/workshop. She pauses for a second as these skins reminds her of what Buffalo Bill does to his victims. Confronting Mr. Bimmel Clarrise introduces herself, while Mr. Bimmels walks her into the house and tells her of Fredricka’s bedroom being kept as it was since the day she disappeared.

Clarrise enters the bedroom and looks about for clues. The first things she notices are many pictures of her and her father all over the walls and dresser tops. There are books about weight loss and romance novels strewn about. A cut out of a fat pig and a fat farmer and a poster of Madonna, all indicate a self consciousness of herself and weight, and a desire to be smaller and sexier(Madonna). As Clarrise walks over to her dresser, she sees a small music box and investigates and opens it to find pictures Fredricka (or someone) took of herself in only her bra and panties. A indication that she is happy with her weight, but society as a whole is making her feel she is an outcast for being heavy. On the wall right next to the music box is a poster that says DUMB AND BLOND with a large hypnotic spiral in the center of it. A reference for sure of how society brainwashes/mind controls a person (a dumb person) to feel that the only way to be happy is to be what society dictates as beautiful…an example being a dumb blond who is always depicted as being shapely, big busted, attractive, desired by all the  men, envied by all the women…like Madonna.

As Clarrise is looking at the pics a cat captures her attention and leads her into a sewing room right next to Fredricka’s room. As Clarrise walks into the room the first thing noticed on the walls are BUTTERFLIES which are symbols of the MONARCH PROJECT (mind control) and because this sewing room was once a bedroom, it references a program called THE SLEEP ROOM that was run by the CIA where people were taken and were given all manner of drugs from insulin to LSD, to Paralytics, to shock therapy etc etc and horrendous experiments done to them in the quest to mind control them. These experiments were carried out by a doctor named Ewen Cameron (Videos below)

As Clarrise continues investigating the room she opens a closet door to see clothing that Fredricka has made and is in the process of making a dress. At that instant it becomes clear to her that Buffalo Bill is using the skin of his victims to make women’s clothing/dresses. She calls Crawford to tell him of what she discovered about Bill only to be told they already know about Bill and who he is and where he is lives…or so they believe. The one thing noticed in this scene is Crawford after being kicked off the case by the FBI has joined up with the military or some part of it to find out where Buffalo Bill is. He, while talking to Clarrise is on a military airplane on his way to Calument City in Chicago. Crawford name has been discovered as Jamie Gum(b)/John Grant. Crawford managed to get back on the case by turning this into a case of capturing a murderer which allowed him to get involved with the local police of Chicago to capture Bill as opposed to trying to capture a serial killer/mind controlled subject which is federal..

Another scene change shows Christine Martin (Buffalo Bill’s hostage) still in the dry well in the basement of the house where Buffalo Bill is. While she is trying to find a way to get Bill to release her from the well, Buffalo Bill is in another room naked taking off a chain from around his neck that has a pendent on it and replacing the pendent with another of a gold fat lady.

This pendent of a fat lady represents something he covets as the fat ladies are needed to satisfy his need for their skin to actually make clothes out of it. As he put the chain and pendent on his neck, a body shot of him is seen and a weird tattoo on his side is shown. This tattoo has two meanings. One is it represents something in him trying to cut its way out. Remember Bill think he is a transsexual because of all of the abuse done to him during his mind control treatments. So this tattoo is of a knife actually cutting him open from the inside out representing this woman coming out or this transformation of himself into a woman by having gender augmentation surgery he once wanted. Second, this same tattoo represents what he is doing to the captured heavyset women…and that is cutting off their skin/flesh to make clothing out of it…. So he can be “beautiful”.

While he is putting on lipstick, in the dry well Catherine is trying to capture the little white poodle Bill has. Thinking that she can use it as a bargaining too to get Bill to release her from the well. A fast scene change takes the viewer back to Buffalo Bill who has now started filming himself with a camcorder dancing around the room he is in. On his head is the scalp of a person and looking carefully the flesh of the scalped person can still be seen with long blond hair coming from it. Buffalo Bill, draped in a quilt like coat/robe begins revealing more of himself before the camera and then advancing forward to the camera and then retreating Bill is shown with his penis held tightly between his legs so as to make himself look like he has a vagina. He then does his glam poses like a female model on a runway. In his mind at this point his transformation is complete… he is now the woman he has been made to believe he is.

THE SLEEP ROOM



Ewen Cameron

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

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Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on April 18, 2011, 06:30:25 AM
Great thread !!! A +++


Samson ... keep doing your thing. Keep doing your thing ... ;)
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 19, 2011, 09:30:19 PM
Silence Of The Lambs Interpretation (Final Episode)


A quick scene change and we see Crawford arriving at the Air National Guard HQ in Chicago, while in Belvedere, Ohio Clarrise is interviewing a woman who was a friend of Fredericka (woman found in river with cocoon in throat) in hopes of getting some information that will lead her to Buffalo Bill, who she now knows his real name is either James Gum(b) or John Grant. It is at this moment that the woman exposes that she and Fredericka were seamstresses and did work for a woman named Ms. Litman, who Clarrise now wants to interview.

While Clarisse gathers this info, Catherine has managed to capture the poodle Buffalo Bill has. This poodle is the one thing Buffalo Bill loves as it represents secrecy (dogs can’t talk or reveal secrets of its owner) and it sends him crazy knowing the dog is in her possession and she is threatening to kill it if he does not let her out of the dry well. Buffalo Bill goes frantic about the house until he decides to get his gun from under his mattress, which is covered with a quilt that has two giant Swastikas on it (This will become important in a minute). The Swastikas represent those scientist brought from Germany to America under OPERATION PAPERCLIP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip) (more info here (http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrol10pg) and here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA)) who were working on mind control programs in Germany during WWII and where given unlimited sums of money by the US government (CIA) to continue testing their mind control program until they actually perfected it. Hannibal (as a mind control program) is the perfection of this program, as it produces a perfect mind control specimen that will be highly intelligent, subversive, charming, a perfect killing machine etc etc. It is not like the former mind controlled programs of old which produced temperamental, uncontrollable, and prone to exiting out of the mind controlled state subjects. Hannibal was/is perfect in that regard, which is what the Germans and Americans were working toward. Buffalo Bill having these Swastikas on his bed informs the viewer that he is a product of this German mind control program by way of Hannibal (the person and program who “trained” him), who was once his doctor and treated ( or should I say mind controlled) him and turned Bill into his own mind controlled subject.

As Buffalo Bill is about to head back to the dry well to get his dog out of the clutches of Catherine, to his worry, the doorbell rings.

Meanwhile in Chicago Crawford and a group of Chicago police/swat/national guardsmen are at another home ringing the doorbell at the same time the bell is ringing at the home of Buffalo Bill in Ohio. Unfortunately Crawford, believing he is at the home of Buffalo Bill, has his team of armed men burst through the home through every window and door only to find out made a mistake has been made and he and his team have gone to the wrong home…in the wrong city… in the wrong state. Oooops, yes government fucks up royally, with even the best intentions and advice

Back in Belvedere Ohio, Clarrise is at the door of Ms. Litman’s home and encounters who she believes is Buffalo Bill and begins questioning him about the Litman woman who once lived there. Buffalo says she doesn’t live hear anymore, but he has the phone number of her son. He invites Clarrise into the home while he gets the business card of Litman’s son. While in the house Clarrise notices the houses is extremely unkempt, has some strange moths in it like the ones she saw in the museum and spools of thread like a seamstress/tailor would have, which to her is a dead give away that this is Buffalo Bill. She pulls her gun on Buffalo Bill who quickly dashes down into the basement of the house. In this scene the failure of Buffalo Bill as a mind controlled subject shows. He was trained by Hannibal, but not nearly to the intense level Hannibal functions at. Psychologically, intellectually, physically he lacks what Hannibal does…as Hannibal would have easily subverted Clarrise in her questioning, in her forwardness and in her accusatory tone and in combat mode when she pulled the gun.

Clarrise pursues Buffalo Bill into the basement and as she enters the stairs that lead to the basement it is painted that same green as seen earlier, which represents money. Keep in mind Clarrise’s goal in the FBI is to advance herself for the sake of money, a title and fame…hence why she is pursuing Buffalo Bill alone as opposed to with other agents (as Crawford did)…she wants all of the recognition for herself.

As she gets to the bottom of the stairs she is confronted by two closed doors, which symbolizes her having to make a choice. The choice is does she or does she not really want to know what goes on in the shadow part of the US government. This scene is almost like in the Matrix where Neo is asked to take the RED pill or the BLUE pill each having their own consequence and revelation. She chooses the door to the right that leads to a dungeon like place. This door to this basement and the dungeon like appearance represents not only the world of Buffalo Bill which is SECRET, but it also represents the doorway to the secrets of the US government (hence the washed out red, white and blue motif right in the middle of the two doors, that represent a different america). At this point Clarrise is being challenged to dig deep (if she dares) into the dark/evil/mysterious/secret/ugly side, of Americas government as she walks down the spooky passage.

Entering in she is confronted by a dark passageway with closed doors and dark hallways that bear no clue as to what lay beyond them. She comes to a door that has a large American map on it…indicating that, like a game show where you choose what's behind a curtain based on a hint, this map on the door hints/informs that this is the real America behind this door (can you handle the truth?). As she nervously pushes the door open it leads to the room where Buffalo Bill has his sewing machine, female mannequins and a large red white and blue flag right near the door. As Clarrise moves into the room there are many other doors in the room (representing choices, secrets and the unknowns) she heads toward another door and quickly pushes it open. Entering in this room leads to a room which has the dry well with Catherine in it, still another door and then another very dark space. Catherine is screaming for help from the well as Clarrise enters and says she is the FBI. As Clarrise enters the room she shuts the door behind her and then blocks it so that it can’t be opened from the outside. This is symbolic on two fronts…One she is actually trying to protect herself from Buffalo Bill, and secondly as a FBI agent of government it symbolizes that once she comes to know “THE SECRETS” of government/america there is no turning back or getting out. Truly it is a TILL DEATH DO THEY PART agreement to anyone desiring to advance up in government and/or it branches as she desires. Ever wonder why politicians never leave politics? Because they know too much to be set free and will be killed if they try and do so.

Catherine Martin screams “get me out of here”. Again there is the literal getting her out of the well as well as a secondary meaning of get her out of this political game of being a pawn being played to get money from the government for this mind control project. As Clarrise moves about this room she sees open doors (meaning she is discovering more secrets about the government that she did not know of) and slams them shut (meaning she doesn’t want to know them and/or wants them to remain secret). Clarisse then shouts to Catherine (who is still screaming to get her out of the well) to be quiet and to shut the barking dog up. In this case she is telling Catherine to not tell of this ordeal she is enduring once freed (especially once the press finally gets a hold of her for interviews). Keeping the dog quiet also represents keeping quiet about all she knows about Buffalo Bill (remember Bill loves that dog, because the dog knows all of his secrets, but the dog is unable to tell anyone else of what it knows) and all of the secrets she has found out about government.

Moving about the room Clarrise sees still another door at the other end of the room…she feels Buffalo Bill is in there (it also represents her feeling that a great government secret is behind that door) and she heads toward the door, pushes it open to find the laboratory Buffalo Bill has been raising his moths and performing the surgical skin removal of his victims. (This is a jackpot for Clarrise as this room is the unveiling of government techniques and locations set up for these mind controlled subjects/terrorist/assassins/serial killers to operate out of like Buffalo Bill).

This is a horrifying scene for Clarrise as the room is extremely dimly lit with moths flying all about. The room also represents the kind of place a person would be tortured into being a mind control subject. The moths like spiders, snakes, rats, etc invokes great fear in people and it is this fear that begins the mental breakdown process in order to get control of a person mind. The surgical table represents a place of pain, which like fear is inflicted on a subject to also cause a break in the mind in order to get control. The darkness represents all of this being done in secrecy.

As Clarrise searches about the room she comes across a poster on the wall of an American who is blind folded with the words BUSINESS AS USUAL. In the background of the poster are Swastikas and underneath it says AMERICA OPEN YOUR EYES. (http://chisholm-poster.com/small/CL39416.jpg) This is very telling.. The poster is clearly telling the everyone that America is a communist/Fascist country and government (Swatikas)and it is time to open their eyes to that reality… and until Americans open their eyes and come to the knowledge of what America really is, it will be BUSINESS AS USUAL. Meaning not only will the Fascist government continue its course, it will grow more powerful (just as seen today). Sadly most Americans are kept BLIND through distractions: game shows, award shows, celebrity gossip, sports, concerts, mindless news etc etc…all the while clueless as to what is really going on. This poster also comes from the WWII era and harps again of PROJECT PAPERCLIP and the bringing of German (Nazi) scientist involved in mind control to ameria (See VIDEO Below). This poster also tells Clarrise about what she is involved in… a government that is NOT democratic and really does not give a damn about its citizens.

Clarrise then goes through yet another door and the first thing she sees is a red light. You’ll remember a red light in this film means DANGER and she has just entered a very dangerous place. As she enters the room, Buffalo Bill (not seen by her yet) turns off the lights and is wearing night vision glasses, leaving Clarrise to feel her way around in total darkness. This dark room represents the deepest secrets of government and its doings. The basement where this room is represents a place where things are discarded, hidden and forgotten, kept a mystery, a place where danger dwells, a place of the unknown etc. As she feels around the blinding darkness her fingers touch a hot furnace. This hot furnace represents things too dangerous for her to handle, know about or even touch…that is reserved for those who have reached advanced levels in the FBI….which she has not reached yet.

While Clarisse gropes about in the dark, Buffalo Bill is watching her every move through the night vision glasses ( a reference that a shadow government watches over the portion of government presented to the masses as the real government) and then he reaches out to touch her hair, which he stops just short of doing (a reminder by the shadow government that every official/president/agent etc, is right within their grasp). While Clarrise continues moving about the impossibly dark room Buffalo Bill pulls out an old style gun and attempts to shoot Clarrise, but just as he cocks the lever on the gun, the click startles Clarrise and she goes about firing wildly in the dark and actually shoots Buffalo Bill multiple times in the chest killing him (once again failure as a good mind controlled subject is shown). Though Buffalo Bill is killed in this scene the real meaning behind Buffalo Bill pulling the gun on Clarrise in the dark is it symbolizes that the shadow government will assassinate a political/government figure if he/she does not do or does more than what they are told to do.

In the wild shooting she shoots through a window pane that was blacked out, allowing sunlight in (hidden secrets now revealed) only to reveal a military helmet and American flag sitting on the window ledge. This military helmet and flag informs the viewer that this entire operation is carried out COVERTLY (symbolized by the dark basement/room) by the US and its military. Immediately the camera focuses on the now dead Buffalo Bill (meaning old mind control program and subject eliminated for the new advanced Hannibal program) and then quickly switches to a twirling mobile which has a large yellow butterfly on one side and a yellow and white butterfly on the opposite side. These butterflies reference the MONARCH PROJECT which deals with mind control…which Buffalo Bill was a victim/subject of.

A quick scene change and outside Buffalo Bills house are cops and ambulances and Crawford. As Crawford approaches the house the EMT are escorting Catherine out of the house and clutching very tightly to her chest, is the white poodle that belongs to Buffalo Bill. As one of the cops on the scene attempted to take the dog away, the dog whines, which caused the cop to leave the dog in Catherine’s arms. Catherine holding that dog means she will not tell anything about what happened to her, what happened to Bill or what she knows about the government being involved in all of this. Remember Bill loved that dog because it held all of his secrets and was unable to reveal any of them to the public…now Catherine holds onto the dog for the same reason.

As Clarrise exits the house Crawford comforts her and asks if she is OK.

Another quick scene change and we see Clarisse at a FBI ceremony receiving the Special Agent title and the advancement for her heroic work at capturing/killing Buffalo Bill. A quick scene change and we see a large cake decorated with the FBI DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE symbol on it as the icing and having a single slice cut out of it. This image informs the viewer that there is a segment (as that cut piece of cake represents) of the government (FBI, CIA, NSA etc etc) that is involved with these covert clandestine projects. Like mind control, manipulating government for money, creating terror(ist)(ism), creating assassins, causing fear and pandemonium amongst the public etc.

After getting her award and socializing, Ardelia comes to Clarrise and says “you have a phone call”. In the back of the room away from everyone is Crawford, who comes forward to congratulate Clarrise on her new title as Special Agent and then informs her he can’t stay long. Before he leaves he gives her a long handshake which is symbolic of the Illuminati handshake as well as a welcome to the ALL BOYS CLUB of the FBI. Crawford then says, while departing, you have a phone call (now how did he know?). As Clarrise answers the phone she hears the unmistakable voice of Hannibal on the other end asking her” have the lambs stopped screaming”? Meaning has she managed to wake up the masses and make them aware of what government is about and really doing?..especially since she has learned so much about the government herself. Just as that poster read ‘America Open Your Eyes’…Those lambs Hannibal speaks of and Clarrise dreamed about being slaughtered, are those Americans (Sheeple) who believe in government  so much so that they can not see the evil of it and are destroyed by the same. Clarrise is particularly disturbed by the phone call because it was Ardelia and Crawford who told her she had a call, meaning both Ardelia and Crawford knew it was Hannibal on the line…this once again shows government complicity in all of this and that Hannibal is their creation, doing their bidding and under their control. As Clarrise listens to Hannibal she turns to see Crawford leaving the room and on her face is the clear shock that he knew this was Hannibal on the phone and has now exposed himself as being a part of this charade of terror/serial killings on the American public.

Hannibal says to her not to try and trace the call and that he will not call on her and he wishes for her to extend him the same courtesy, which Clarrise  responds by saying she can’t do that. In this part of the film Hannibal is asking Clarrise to forget he exists and to try and not find or capture him or use him in the quest to capture any future serial killers.

As the camera pans out Hannibal is seen on what looks like a Caribbean Island watching as a plane unloads, with one of the passengers being Dr. Chilton. Hannibal then tells Clarrise that he can not stay on the phone long as he is having an old friend for dinner, then hangs up. This is a great scene and reveals a lot. First Hannibal the mind control program has been moved to a Caribbean Island for the sake of secrecy and government not being able to interfere. Dr. Chilton has either secured the funding from the government and fled America for the sake of advancing and expanding this program from an off shore location or he has obtained private funding for the expansion and advancement of the mind control program and its subjects. So the US mind control program can now go one without the obstructions, secrecy and financial wrangling that has held up its development in the states.

Hannibal’s comment about having an old friend for dinner is a dire warning as Hannibal (the mind controlled person) is growing out of control and he is now going to destroy Dr. Chilton who he sees as someone who tortured him and made his life a living hell. I expect Hannibal will literally eat for dinner (or certainly kill) Chilton … which reminds me of how Dr.Frankenstein’s monster killed Dr. Frankenstein when the abuse of the monster became too much. This all speaks of the horrors of trying to play GOD or at the very least delving into a science, a psychology and a manipulation of human minds… areas you shouldn’t tamper with…thinking you have full control …only to be shown later you have no control at all.

A quick shot of Dr. Chilton shows him talking to another man asking if security is set up in the facility. Here we have acknowledgment of this mind control center being operated out of another country with Chilton fully in charge.

As the scene begins closing we see Clarrise still holding onto the phone repeatedly calling off the name “Dr. Lechter” (Hannibal), who has now hung up and is calmly walking (at distance) after Dr. Chilton. All the while as the camera pans out, all around are the washed out red, white and blue color motifs that begins appearing all over the scenery. This color message tells that the American mind control program has been moved/expanded to this new place of operation (Just like what we now see in Guantanamo Bay, Abu Graib, prison systems and various places where people are kidnapped to and “RENDITIONED” around the world) and Hannibal is now operating in a autonomous manner as he no longer needs Dr. Chilton and will soon do away with him.

All of this signifying losing control over the program and over the subject who now operates under his own command…Eisenhower spoke of the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX as an entity, if allowed, would grow out of control and then turn on its owner/creator. Surely enough today we see branches of the American and British government operating autonomously and out of the control of its government. This scene is also reminiscent of government of any nation, controlling the masses of its nation and oppressing and violating the people so much and so long that the people eventually rise up against the government (which loses control over the population) and destroys it.

This video is terrifying because of its reality (must watch)


http://www.sharethetruth.tv/v/741,cia-mind-control-experiments.html

Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 22, 2011, 09:14:30 AM
Hello All

I hope you have all read the interpretation of Silence Of The Lambs and have come to an understanding of how Hollywood puts a strong underlying message in films and then covers it over with symbolism and portrayals that makes the REAL MESSAGE disappear in front of the eyes of those who can not see it. I would suggest to everyone to please watch Silence Of The Lambs again and maybe even printout the interpretation I did so you can watch and read and see this underlying (secret) message in the film. This technique is not new of hiding messages in films, as a matter of fact practically all Hollywood movies, commercials, videos, books etc have a secret message running just beneath what you see on the screen or read on the pages.

Movies like the Matrix, The Siege, The Long Kiss Goodnight, Mulholland Drive, Metropolis, Inception, The Manchurian Candidate, Control Factor and many many more all have a message, and in the case of these films they are SINISTER messages.

I said earlier that I would do The Wizard of Oz next...that is another film that has nothing to do with a young farm girl being whisked off to a fantasy land....It is a whole lot deeper and the underlying message really applies to what is happening in the world today.
Title: Re: Silence of the lambs...
Post by: w8m8 on April 22, 2011, 09:53:44 AM
I'll get back on it here soon, in the next day or so.  I've gotten several pms on this so I will get it going.  

Samson, if you've got a final post, please finish it up.


Hugo .. can you carry on now please  ?  :D

Silence Of The Lambs Interpretation (Final Episode)