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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The_Hammer on January 08, 2011, 08:38:01 PM
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Why don't you ever see bodybuilders doing any Olympic lifts in the gym? Are they useless for building muscle?
I think Arnold did power cleans but that's all I can think of.
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They would work fine but what is the purpose?
Why spend all the effort doing power cleans when you could just go do your deadlifts and rows?
Bodybuilders love the pump and it's going to be hard to get that with highly technical lifts and no negative.
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They would work fine but what is the purpose?
Why spend all the effort doing power cleans when you could just go do your deadlifts and rows?
Bodybuilders love the pump and it's going to be hard to get that with highly technical lifts and no negative.
highly technical lifts are best left for failcon weegar scientists
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They would work fine but what is the purpose?
Why spend all the effort doing power cleans when you could just go do your deadlifts and rows?
Bodybuilders love the pump and it's going to be hard to get that with highly technical lifts and no negative.
Exactly.........it's not like they're athletes.
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why do complicated lifts when you can just do alot of test and a couple of concentration curls
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All lifts can be beneficial. the more difficult to do the better!!
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Exactly.........it's not like they're athletes.
Yep! :D
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There were actual olympic lifts during the earlier days of the AAU Mr. America contest. I'm talking 1960's. A bodybuilder had to have athletic points to prove they weren't mirror athletes. Can you imagine a current bodybuilder trying to clean and jerk 300lbs? I doubt you could find one.
It's to bad that todays bodybuilder doesn't realize the value of olympic lifts. They are not that complicated. Shooting a ball in a hoop is complicated not lifting a bar over head. There are no weak but skilled olympic lifters.
The olympic lifts improves vertical leap dramatically in those who just begin doing power cleans. Olympic lifters in general are really fast sprinters.
You have to stop thinking about exercises in individual bodyparts. Like curls are for the bicep. The body in athletics functions as a complete unit. The olympic lifts train the body as a unit.
Sergio Oliva was an elite Olympic lifter prior to going to bodybuilding. He even used the lifts in his early days of training for bodybuilding.
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yes it would be great if they did stiffed leg deadlifts with their backs towards the audience. offcourse with big videowalls so we can see every fiber contract.
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repping C&J at a decenet weight compared to your bw is rough as FUCK.
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There were actual olympic lifts during the earlier days of the AAU Mr. America contest. I'm talking 1960's. A bodybuilder had to have athletic points to prove they weren't mirror athletes. Can you imagine a current bodybuilder trying to clean and jerk 300lbs? I doubt you could find one.
It's to bad that todays bodybuilder doesn't realize the value of olympic lifts. They are not that complicated. Shooting a ball in a hoop is complicated not lifting a bar over head. There are no weak but skilled olympic lifters.
The olympic lifts improves vertical leap dramatically in those who just begin doing power cleans. Olympic lifters in general are really fast sprinters.
You have to stop thinking about exercises in individual bodyparts. Like curls are for the bicep. The body in athletics functions as a complete unit. The olympic lifts train the body as a unit.
Sergio Oliva was an elite Olympic lifter prior to going to bodybuilding. He even used the lifts in his early days of training for bodybuilding.
Lol, "they are not complicated" ? put the fucking pipe down.
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Olympic lifters gots some wheels on them, and dats fo damn sure! It's just too bad dat their arms and torsos don't match their legs ::)
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maybe they dont like training arms
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A lot of the old timers were actually very good at them- Vern Weaver, Oliva, Dennis Tinerino, Bill Seno, and of course Tommy Kono.
Now, as mentioned, there isn't reason to do them, since AAU isn't in control of contests and the actual athletic portion of contests was dropped years ago anyway.
Also I can see all types of problems. They'd need a good bit of training before they'd be putting up meaning full loads, Most seem to inflexible to get into position right. Also O/L training doesn't lead most of time to the type of hypertrophy a competition bodybuilder would want. It's a diffent type of muscle quality.
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There were actual olympic lifts during the earlier days of the AAU Mr. America contest. I'm talking 1960's. A bodybuilder had to have athletic points to prove they weren't mirror athletes. Can you imagine a current bodybuilder trying to clean and jerk 300lbs? I doubt you could find one.
It's to bad that todays bodybuilder doesn't realize the value of olympic lifts. They are not that complicated. Shooting a ball in a hoop is complicated not lifting a bar over head. There are no weak but skilled olympic lifters.
The olympic lifts improves vertical leap dramatically in those who just begin doing power cleans. Olympic lifters in general are really fast sprinters.
You have to stop thinking about exercises in individual bodyparts. Like curls are for the bicep. The body in athletics functions as a complete unit. The olympic lifts train the body as a unit.
Sergio Oliva was an elite Olympic lifter prior to going to bodybuilding. He even used the lifts in his early days of training for bodybuilding.
They are far more complicated then shooting a ball in a hoop. And the equipment makes a big difference too. I do cleans. If a gym doesnt have actual olympic lifting bars rather than a standard gym bar and a lifting platform and rubber weights its a pain in the arse and often more hastle then its worth.
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You don't need bumper plates to do power cleans but they help. I did them for many years with metal plates. I just didn't drop the weights. I now have bumpers plates ( rubber plates meant for dropping). I use a true olympic bar but again for a bodybuilder supplementing their bodybuilding it isn't necessary. A lifting platform? Maybe if you compete in the lifts.
I don't expect a bodybuilder to do a full squat clean or snatch. It would be refreshing to see a bodybuilder doing a couple of power cleans. I repeat it isn't that complicated. Then again how many bodybuilders are athletes?
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because bodybuilder are lazy as shit....and true Olympic lift with true Olympic form are more momentum than anything..
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why don't tennis players wear hockey skates?
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why don't tennis players wear hockey skates?
Same reason this dude is on getbig explaining why bbers are pussies because they're not working on their snatch at the gym.
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yes it would be great if they did stiffed leg deadlifts with their backs towards the audience. offcourse with big videowalls so we can see every fiber contract.
;D ;D ;D
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because bodybuilder are lazy as shit....and true Olympic lift with true Olympic form are more momentum than anything..
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And who creates the momentum? ::)
Why no weightlifting exercises in bodybuilding? They are useless. Many weightlifters train like bodybuilders anyway. Snatch and clean and jerk is only a small part of training for some. 1 day a week for example. Superheavyweight lifters' main goal is to get enough muscle mass to be competitive. Most of them don't give a fuck about technique after they become ok with it, because they know it's about strength.
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ALL of the strength and muscular development from olympic lifting comes from the lower body and lower back, those lifts do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for the arms, delts, or pecs. So who da fvck would want to have the pear body dat these lifts create? Not me! FUCK DAT NOISE!
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There were actual olympic lifts during the earlier days of the AAU Mr. America contest. I'm talking 1960's. A bodybuilder had to have athletic points to prove they weren't mirror athletes. Can you imagine a current bodybuilder trying to clean and jerk 300lbs? I doubt you could find one.
It's to bad that todays bodybuilder doesn't realize the value of olympic lifts. They are not that complicated. Shooting a ball in a hoop is complicated not lifting a bar over head. There are no weak but skilled olympic lifters.
The olympic lifts improves vertical leap dramatically in those who just begin doing power cleans. Olympic lifters in general are really fast sprinters.
You have to stop thinking about exercises in individual bodyparts. Like curls are for the bicep. The body in athletics functions as a complete unit. The olympic lifts train the body as a unit.
Sergio Oliva was an elite Olympic lifter prior to going to bodybuilding. He even used the lifts in his early days of training for bodybuilding.
I would bet that every single competitor in last year's Olympia top 10 would be able to clean and jerk 300lbs easily.
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ALL of the strength and muscular development from olympic lifting comes from the lower body and lower back, those lifts do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for the arms, delts, or pecs. So who da fvck would want to have the pear body dat these lifts create? Not me! FUCK DAT NOISE!
Throughout the history of strength sports, the strongest overhead pressers have come from weightlifting.
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Maybe so, but overhead pressing is no longer a part of OL, the jerk is not a true press.
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Maybe so, but overhead pressing is no longer a part of OL, the jerk is not a true press.
The fact remains.
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because bodybuilder are lazy as shit....and true Olympic lift with true Olympic form are more momentum than anything..
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Momentum?? I think you mean power. Applying strength as fast as you can. In athletics whether sprinting, punching or taking down an opponent power is the most important factor. That's one of the main reasons a 165lbs boxer who can't bench 250lbs can punch harder than a lumbering 400lbs bench pressor.