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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Topic started by: funk51 on January 17, 2011, 11:09:14 AM
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who was the weightlifter who went to a world weightlifting contest to compete bombed out on all his lifts because he was sick and dehydrated from trying to make weight, than entered and won the mr universe contest held in conjunction with the lifting contest?
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just a guess, Bruce Randall?
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nope same basic era though. by the way it was the fihc mr universe version held in conjunction with the world weightlifting meet.
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just guessing,sergio oliva
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Roy Hilligen (named spelled wrong no doubt) from South Africa. Trained around York & also in SoCal for awhile. Thinking also of John Grimek, a basic Olympic lifter who turned to BB'ing. Probably as a way to push Bob Hoffman's lifting books and supplements.
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Tommy Kono?
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all good guesses all incorrect, although kono did win a couple of these universes.
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Was this an America ? Anyway, great question. Must have been way back in the day. Waiting for the correct answer when your ready.
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This one's easy. It was the great Vassily Alexeef.
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Was this an America ? Anyway, great question. Must have been way back in the day. Waiting for the correct answer when your ready.
it was an american weightlifter.
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This one's easy. It was the great Vassily Alexeef.
your kidding right, vasily a mr universe he did have a great ab, singular.
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Vern Weaver?
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Vern Weaver, great guess BB. Maybe thats it.
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Vern Weaver?
nope not vern same era though, answer coming monday keep guessing, little clue this guy was both known for a great press and also useing sloppy form to do presses. i guess you could say he marched to the beat of a different drummer.
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Ken Patera.
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Billy March.
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I would have said Bill March also, but don't believe he ever won any major BB'ing contest. Your "he Marched to the beat, etc", that was kind of cute. Probably the greatest presser, pound for pound, in Olympic lifting. D-bol and partial power rack training went a long way for him.
Was all this at the MR U contest in London or another liked named contest?
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I don’t want to derail Funk’s thread (in the event I‘m wrong), but I have an interesting artilce from 2005, in which a writer for a Pittsburgh newpaper interviewed Bill March.
March goes into a fair amount of detail about his training, John Ziegler, Bob Hoffman and the York Club, dianabol prescriptions and doses being used at the time.
I’ll post it up here once the thread’s mystery is solved.
For as long as the article is, I don’t believe it mentions anything about Mr. March’s winning the Universe, however, I believe it was at the FIHC’s 1965 event in Tehran.
I can’t confirm it, though.
Surprisingly, a web search is giving me a difficult time.
I think the FIHC part is throwing things off for some reason.
Leaving out those letters doesn't give you the correct contest, and including them diverts you even farther away from any kind of contests. :-\
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I don’t want to derail Funk’s thread (in the event I‘m wrong), but I have an interesting artilce from 2005, in which a writer for a Pittsburgh newpaper interviewed Bill March.
March goes into a fair amount of detail about his training, John Ziegler, Bob Hoffman and the York Club, dianabol prescriptions and doses being used at the time.
I’ll post it up here once the thread’s mystery is solved.
For as long as the article is, I don’t believe it mentions anything about Mr. March’s winning the Universe, however, I believe it was at the FIHC’s 1965 event in Tehran.
I can’t confirm it, though.
Surprisingly, a web search is giving me a difficult time.
I think the FIHC part is throwing things off for some reason.
Leaving out those letters doesn't give you the correct contest, and including them diverts you even farther away from any kind of contests. :-\
your correct montague the answer is bill march, the funny thing about march was he was one of john z's early guinea pigs in york pa, but usually gave credit to his great improvements as a lifter to isometrics. funny how hoffman came out with isometric racks at the time.
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pic from s and h
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Cool.
Do you know how hard it is to find pictures from that contest?
I've found plenty of pics of March, but many are from lifting competitions, as that is primarily what he did.
The only other photo I found is a b/w of the above cover.
Here's a nice article on March from October of 2005:
http://www.ergogenics.org/123.html
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Your "he Marched to the beat, etc", that was kind of cute.
Want to know something sad?
I read this thread yesterday...
I read your post above this morning...
The little play on words didn't hit me until 10:24 this evening.
I never made the connection until just a few minutes ago.
:-\ ;D
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Forgot that Tehran, Iran was a fairly active place for Olympic lifting under the former Shah of Iran. Believe The Shah supported BB'ing & lifting. Iran had a very good world record holder Olympic lifter (small weigh class) back than.
Also, in Iran, they used something in the form of Indian clubs (OK maybe Persian Clubs) for drills & workouts. And had contest with them. Some weightlifters, supposed, had used them as part of their training. These weighted clubs went back many century's in their culture.
Maybe the Persian clubs (not the dance & strip ones in LA) will become a fad in the US, like kettle bells. Kettle bells being a awkward & crude form of the common DB. Who, somehow, people thought Kettle bells were superior in that common DB.
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Cool.
Do you know how hard it is to find pictures from that contest?
I've found plenty of pics of March, but many are from lifting competitions, as that is primarily what he did.
The only other photo I found is a b/w of the above cover.
Here's a nice article on March from October of 2005:
http://www.ergogenics.org/123.html
that mag has the contest written up but only three or four small pics of the contest, if you go on musclememory.com and click on bill march and the contest you can actually read the article. however only 6 guys are actually mentioned although the article says 22 guys were in that contest.
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while watching football yesterday one of the players was quoted as saying his father vinnie devito was in a mr universe contest, however i couldn't find anything on this guy.
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Maybe the Persian clubs (not the dance & strip ones in LA) will become a fad in the US, like kettle bells. Kettle bells being a awkward & crude form of the common DB. Who, somehow, people thought Kettle bells were superior in that common DB.
Shh...
Don't give them any more ideas.
There's already enough tards swinging enough shit between benches when I'm trying to train.
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Just, by accident, drop a 45 or a couple of lighter 10lb plates around your area. The noise along tends to scare the weak hearted away.
Speaking of other forms of working out; Indian clubs, etc: Funk 51 probably know something about chest pulls or expanders. Remember reading about their use in the last century. They were popular in Europe and England. Had regular strength pulling contest, getting to over 200lb test pulls, etc. Don't know if they do that anymore. Could be steel springs or even rubber thick band types. Actually not a bad idea for the average guy to get some kind of work in. Though kind of limited to what exercises you could. In those spring contest a version of the one arm press was big, if I remember right. Don't even know if they sell then anymore in the US. Interesting though.
Bill March reminded me of one of the better exercises to improve the overhead press. The handstand pushup, with the hands on a pair of higher blocks to give more range to the movement. Feet held by a partner or have the feet leaning against a wall. Seen a lot of gymnast improve their pressing motions that way. Also add size. Can try tiger presses that way for outstanding triceps.
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Just, by accident, drop a 45 or a couple of lighter 10lb plates around your area. The noise along tends to scare the weak hearted away.
That's because they're afraid one may land on them! :)
I remember seeing chest expanders as a young kid in the early 80's.
Those and the bars with similar looking coils in the center; I forget their name, but you would hold the ends and bend it in the same manner as breaking a stick.
And, of course, who could forget these:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31i1Ro9W7wL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
;D
You also mentioned tiger presses.
Are those the same things as what some folks call tiger dips?
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Don't know about tiger dips, so much of this stuff can go by different names. But tiger presses (the name I heard) are where a person is up side down (like a handstand position), with the forearms resting on the floor. Than a person extends the forearms up to a elbow lockout (usually). Like doing a tricep BB extension in the regular standing position. Tiger presses are mostly all tricep effort.
Paul Anderson use to have handstand presses as part of his workouts, I had read.
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Okay, thanks.
I've heard a few people refer to body weight push-offs or body weight extensions as "tiger dips."
What you described sounds difficult enough that I'm not surprised to have never seen anyone do them.
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i had a chest expander back in the day the five spring variety, they still make them some with steel springs and other with rubber tubing. york used to sell rubber ones back in the early 60's.that exercise is also called handstand pshups, of which bob goldman was a record holder of doing. bob goldman of the book, death in the locker room fame,