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Title: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: littleguns on January 20, 2011, 05:45:34 PM
Are there any wrestlers from 70's and 80's currently living the good life?

Lets look at some of the biggest draws:

Ric Flair - divorced 4x or so....still wrestling at 60. I call BS that it is in his blood and he wants to wrestle

Animal from LOD - HS strength coach or something

Jake Roberts - enough said

Roddy Piper- can anyone comment?

Tony Atlas - maybe not biggest draws but I have seen A&E stories where he is living in a 300 sf apartment



etc etc......anyone successful in their twilight yrs?
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Montague on January 20, 2011, 06:37:27 PM
I guess “the good life” is wide opened to interpretation.
I don’t know of too many guys who retire as millionaires, but many live comfortably, stress/worry-free, and enjoy 2nd careers that they aren’t necessarily “forced” to hold down.

Piper has an attractive and sizeable house on some acreage in/near Aloha, Oregon.
After retiring in '87, he came back after making a couple of movies because it drove him nuts being home all the time; although, he would frequently take lengthy sabatticals to persue more acting gigs and spend time with his family.
It doesn't sound like he's hurting and still likes to dabble a bit here & there.

Rene Goulet and Larry Zbyszko are two excellent examples of the motto: “It’s not only how much you make, but how much you save.”
Larry told some hilarious stories about how frugal/cheap Goulet was on the road.
While he never pulled main event money, Goulet and his wife are set and simply play golf everyday at an exclusive country club by their Florida home.

Bruno appears to be doing okay.

Virgil is a substitute school teacher and dick.

Hawk and Animal pocketed an ass-load of $$ from their partnership in Zubaz.
Each had 25% ownership worth $14 million.

Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 20, 2011, 07:01:44 PM
Isn't Hacksaw Duggan doing pretty decent as well?

Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Montague on January 20, 2011, 08:09:49 PM
Isn't Hacksaw Duggan doing pretty decent as well?




I believe you're right.
I can't remember the details, but his name popped up in a semi-recent article that mentioned maybe some kind of business he owns or something.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: marcie999 on January 20, 2011, 08:56:44 PM


How are the women doing?

Been reading some gnarly stuff about Luna Vachon.

 :D
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Montague on January 21, 2011, 04:48:09 AM

How are the women doing?

Been reading some gnarly stuff about Luna Vachon.

 :D


I have a feeling that Vince kind of short-changes the female roster.
This is mostly my opinion and is based on a great deal of conjecture, but I remember reading some supposed details of Trish's contract (when she was their top diva) and being surprised how low her salary was.
 
Trish was HUGE and had to have been a top merchandise seller for them with all of those calendars, posters, dvd's, etc.
Not only that, but she projected a good, clean, wholesome image outside the ring.

I don't know how it is now, but if that's how the old man treated his top lady star...
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 21, 2011, 04:50:26 AM
Are there any wrestlers from 70's and 80's currently living the good life?

Lets look at some of the biggest draws:

Ric Flair - divorced 4x or so....still wrestling at 60. I call BS that it is in his blood and he wants to wrestle

Animal from LOD - HS strength coach or something

Jake Roberts - enough said

Roddy Piper- can anyone comment?

Tony Atlas - maybe not biggest draws but I have seen A&E stories where he is living in a 300 sf apartment



etc etc......anyone successful in their twilight yrs?
Piper is Loaded and owns a huge ranch in Portland

Flair has more money then most wrestlers put together. He was earning close to a million dollars per year in the eighties. He only contiues to be involved in the business because like many his age he can't seem to let go of the spotlight. His divorces mean nothing as he is still loaded. His net worth is 25 mil.

Jake is a right off. He made his bed now let him lay in it.

Don't know about Tony Atlas...

Many who earned big bucks are very well off just like anyother sport / actor so to speak.

Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Montague on January 21, 2011, 05:33:40 AM
I don’t feel bad for Jake, and Atlas isn’t exactly the sharpest “fork” in the drawer, so don’t go by him.

And, Playboy is very correct:
There are some who made decent money and live a great life now, while some made a fortune and now have nothing.
There are also cases in which the opposite of the above is true.

And, just like in Hollywood - you hear about actors like Nicholas Cage making $20 million (or whatever) per film, and are “broke.”
A few years back, I’d read that Cage was living in a replica of a Scottish castle, and was strongly considering purchasing a REAL Scottish castle and having it transported to North America.
Then, the stupid prick can’t understand where all of his money went!!

Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 21, 2011, 07:21:03 AM
I don’t feel bad for Jake, and Atlas isn’t exactly the sharpest “fork” in the drawer, so don’t go by him.

And, Playboy is very correct:
There are some who made decent money and live a great life now, while some made a fortune and now have nothing.
There are also cases in which the opposite of the above is true.

And, just like in Hollywood - you hear about actors like Nicholas Cage making $20 million (or whatever) per film, and are “broke.”
A few years back, I’d read that Cage was living in a replica of a Scottish castle, and was strongly considering purchasing a REAL Scottish castle and having it transported to North America.
Then, the stupid prick can’t understand where all of his money went!!



That right there hit the nail on the head. Imagine what the monthly costs are to run a "castle" that size? I doubt Cage is "Broke" but who knows. For them, being broke means they only have 5 million instead of 80 million.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Montague on January 21, 2011, 08:06:59 AM
That right there hit the nail on the head. Imagine what the monthly costs are to run a "castle" that size? I doubt Cage is "Broke" but who knows. For them, being broke means they only have 5 million instead of 80 million.


Yes.
I suspect that, in many cases, that terminology is relative...

Unless you're Wesley Snipes.
 ;D
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 21, 2011, 08:14:58 AM

Yes.
I suspect that, in many cases, that terminology is relative...

Unless you're Wesley Snipes.
 ;D
Or Opra
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 21, 2011, 09:07:40 AM
Speaking of Oprah....off topic, but I saw her interviewing JK Rowling one day and Rowling said something about "never feeling safe with all the cash she has" and asked Oprah if she felt the same.....Oprah got this funny look and was like "uh, no...."  It was so refreshingly honest...haha
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 21, 2011, 09:54:58 AM
Speaking of Oprah....off topic, but I saw her interviewing JK Rowling one day and Rowling said something about "never feeling safe with all the cash she has" and asked Oprah if she felt the same.....Oprah got this funny look and was like "uh, no...."  It was so refreshingly honest...haha
Especially with her ludacris bankroll.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: OLE BIG on January 21, 2011, 03:16:13 PM

How are the women doing?

Been reading some gnarly stuff about Luna Vachon.

 :D

Isn't Luna dead?
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Montague on January 21, 2011, 03:38:52 PM
Luna spent her last days as a tow truck driver in Florida.
She also lived with her mother after a fire destroyed her (Luna's) home.

She was buried on her Godfather's Ellerbe, NC ranch.
Her Godfather was Andre the Giant.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: littleguns on January 21, 2011, 03:50:57 PM
Isn't Hacksaw Duggan doing pretty decent as well?



I had heard he had to return to the ring after his I believe Kidney Transplant to pay for his Medical Bills...
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: joseywaleshhh on January 21, 2011, 05:27:28 PM
Tony Atlas and Hacksaw are working two towns over from me in February. Pretty small venue. I often wonder how much they make for these shows. Although Hacksaw and Beefcake did a show last year and the place was hopping. They opened the balcony seating and it was full, were as at normal show with the local guys doesn't sell out the floor seating.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: littleguns on January 22, 2011, 04:58:15 AM
Another name..Beefcake.......sto ry a few yrs ago he was working in a booth collecting subway tokens

On the up note, I've heard that people like Christian and Jericho live very frugally, as they never know when their time is up....

As much as you love or hate him Warrior seems comfortable on planet neptune...
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Formerly_Owner76 on January 23, 2011, 06:48:05 AM
Yes, I read on a Classic Wrestling board recently that Ted Arcidi is very well off. Owns half of Manchester NH, acted in "The Town" and "The Fighter" recently, owns a gym, a fitness store, a huge Mill building. Very successful guy.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 23, 2011, 04:12:12 PM
Yes, I read on a Classic Wrestling board recently that Ted Arcidi is very well off. Owns half of Manchester NH, acted in "The Town" and "The Fighter" recently, owns a gym, a fitness store, a huge Mill building. Very successful guy.

Ted was a beast.....there are some clips of his powerlifting on youtube.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 24, 2011, 04:37:49 AM
Tony Atlas and Hacksaw are working two towns over from me in February. Pretty small venue. I often wonder how much they make for these shows. Although Hacksaw and Beefcake did a show last year and the place was hopping. They opened the balcony seating and it was full, were as at normal show with the local guys doesn't sell out the floor seating.
A decent name can earn a good living off the independants. My buddy did an independant show when he was trying to make the big time and he said Jake Roberts was on the card and got 5 grand per appearance.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Montague on January 24, 2011, 04:49:17 AM
A decent name can earn a good living off the independants. My buddy did an independant show when he was trying to make the big time and he said Jake Roberts was on the card and got 5 grand per appearance.


I once asked one of our promoters for a ballpark figure of what some of the "celebrity" wrestlers make.
He told me he doesn't discuss any workers' payouts with his other talent.
But, I know there were local guys making $40 per night - even the ones taking chairshots to the head with color.

Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 24, 2011, 05:16:58 AM

I once asked one of our promoters for a ballpark figure of what some of the "celebrity" wrestlers make.
He told me he doesn't discuss any workers' payouts with his other talent.
But, I know there were local guys making $40 per night - even the ones taking chairshots to the head with color.


Livin' the dream..... ;D
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Montague on January 24, 2011, 05:37:48 AM
Livin' the dream..... ;D


LOL!!
Yeah, but even local-level indy pay is more lucrative than some guys "earn" in premier bodybuilding events.
Some undercard guys make as much as $40 more in a night. ;)
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 24, 2011, 05:50:16 AM

LOL!!
Yeah, but even local-level indy pay is more lucrative than some guys "earn" in premier bodybuilding events.
Some undercard guys make as much as $40 more in a night. ;)

haha, true.  90% of bodybuilders at a show go home with ZERO..... ;D
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 24, 2011, 05:50:39 AM
Livin' the dream..... ;D
Ha ha ha, sad as it is it is a very tough business. Kind of reminds me of that one scene in the movie "The Wrestler" when about 5 of them were sitting at a table, all beat up, old and abused and waiting for fans to pay for an autograph / memorabilia and no one showed up. Sad shit.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 24, 2011, 05:52:26 AM
Ha ha ha, sad as it is it is a very tough business. Kind of reminds me of that one scene in the movie "The Wrestler" when about 5 of them were sitting at a table, all beat up, old and abused and waiting for fans to pay for an autograph / memorabilia and no one showed up. Sad shit.

Oh man, I know...that movie had so many scenes that just tugged your heart out......great, great movie on so many levels.  I was surprised that the same guy who directed it, did Black Swan.  Not that I want to see it, but what a director...
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 24, 2011, 06:11:51 AM
Oh man, I know...that movie had so many scenes that just tugged your heart out......great, great movie on so many levels.  I was surprised that the same guy who directed it, did Black Swan.  Not that I want to see it, but what a director...
"Come on man, let me in my trailer I just want my icepacks! I'll have your rent money! You know i'm good for it." (Randy the Ram to landlord) ... Wow...
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 24, 2011, 06:29:52 AM
"Come on man, let me in my trailer I just want my icepacks! I'll have your rent money! You know i'm good for it." (Randy the Ram to landlord) ... Wow...
And you KNOW that has happened so many times..... one scene i really liked is when he was sleeping in the van and the kids woke him up.  i expected him to get ticked, but he just played with the kids and was so cool to them.  Great scene.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 24, 2011, 06:33:14 AM
And you KNOW that has happened so many times..... one scene i really liked is when he was sleeping in the van and the kids woke him up.  i expected him to get ticked, but he just played with the kids and was so cool to them.  Great scene.
Yes, you're right! He was humble and kind to everyone. An aspect that is really over looked in the business today especially in the indie scene. I like the locker room spirit they had in that flick.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 24, 2011, 06:35:34 AM
Yes, you're right! He was humble and kind to everyone. An aspect that is really over looked in the business today especially in the indie scene. I like the locker room spirit they had in that flick.

Yep...I liked that too....guys encouraging each other, working on finishes to not step on each others toes, etc...  I think i might watch it again today....  ;D
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 24, 2011, 06:42:01 AM
Yep...I liked that too....guys encouraging each other, working on finishes to not step on each others toes, etc...  I think i might watch it again today....  ;D
And more importantly no EGO'S or jackesses refusing to job.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Andy Griffin on January 25, 2011, 08:27:36 AM
I once read that "Leaping" Lanny Poffo is quite comfortable.  He spoke about the importance of smart money management and joked that he is now in better shape than virtually all the wrestlers he jobbed to back in the 80's.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 25, 2011, 08:34:35 AM
I once read that "Leaping" Lanny Poffo is quite comfortable.  He spoke about the importance of smart money management and joked that he is now in better shape than virtually all the wrestlers he jobbed to back in the 80's.
Its the same old story. Everyone assumes that wrestlers / celebrities / atheletes are "broke". Its bullshit. Hell, everyone chimmed how Scott Hall was such a misfit for his alcohol and drug abuse and him being broke from divorce but the guy is loaded and owns a 5,000 square foot house in orlando and has two Bentley's.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 25, 2011, 01:28:10 PM
How much could he possibly have? That Orlando house no matter how big it is is worth half of what it was five years ago. Orlando=huge loss. Vanity tends to be a big problem for Celebs. Two Bentley's? Where is his income coming from to support this life style? Drug/alcohol abuse and a divorce? Does he have any children as well? No way this guy is living Big.
Doesn't matter. Once you made your millions, your good to go. He made his money. You need to do your homework a lil better before chiming in once a month
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Fallsview on January 26, 2011, 01:01:48 AM
Isn't Hacksaw Duggan doing pretty decent as well?



Has a half way decent house.  A friend of mine had to do some work there.  Inside, the house was a mess.  Dirty dishes and garbage were scattered everywhere.  My friend described it as, where ever they were at and done with eating, is where they left their plates.  There was an end table and there were five dishes piled up on it with 6 glasses along with the silverware. Candy wrappers were all over the floor. lol
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 26, 2011, 04:58:38 AM
I travel alot for work. And I do know the value of a dollar and how much it costs to keep the Big Ships a float. This guy is high rolling in Mansions with Bentley's. It's expensive for any life style especially that kind. A million dollars isn't what it used to be. Especially with a taste for big spending, drug/alcohol abuse, a divorce, and children (if he has any?). EVERYONE lost their a$$ in the recession as well. Last time I checked this guy hasn't been a draw in years. Enlighten me Playboy. How many millions could he possibly have?
(http://www.pwpix.net/superstars/s/scotthall/gallery/photoscans/1/gallery1/073.jpg)
He's made almost 2mil per year (guaranteed...a brilliant fine print in the contracts offered by Turner to lure potential WWE talents) between 1996-2001 with WCW. Prior to that he was getting 400,000 grand per year with WWE from 1992-1996 when he left. He has coin. A bottle of Grey Goose doesn't cost 500,000 dollars. Whether he hasn't been a draw in years or not is irrelevant. He's made his coin. Same with guys like Nash, Flair, Hogan, etc. Last I checked Hall's net worth was 8 million. These guys aren't stupid. They have lawyers, agents, etc. Hall & Nash are both practically joined at the hip so they have the same agent repping them.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Montague on January 26, 2011, 05:34:05 AM
I see where Timmy is coming from.
There are many instances of those who have it not having it for long because of irresponsible spending habits.
It's not only what you make, but also what you save/spend that counts.

We can't make blanket statements about celebrities in general.
However, many are mature and smart enough to at least surround themselves with intelligent people who will effectively handle their finances.
The fact that Hall still has the assets he does this long after the peak of his run tells me he's done/doing something right.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 26, 2011, 05:42:35 AM
"Hey yo.....its survey time....survey says!? One more for the bad guy."  :D

Speaking of Hall and Nash, I was watching WWE vintage on the weekend. The show was allocated to just them. They even showed a match with the fake Razor and Diesel. Remember that bullshit? I know the fake Diesel was Glen Jacobs aka Kane but who was the fake Razor??
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Montague on January 26, 2011, 06:46:13 AM
who was the fake Razor??


Rick Bognar of Canada.
He eventually ran a wrestling school with "Bad News" Alan Coage for a while.
I don't know how it did, though.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 26, 2011, 08:19:28 AM

Rick Bognar of Canada.
He eventually ran a wrestling school with "Bad News" Alan Coage for a while.
I don't know how it did, though.
Really? I wondered who the hell he was. He seemed to fall off planet earth after that.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 26, 2011, 10:24:28 AM
I wasn't trying you my North American Brother. Timmy's here to learn from you guys. I love this board and learn more and more everyday. Most of the time drug addiction and money management don't really go hand and hand though. I'm glad to hear the Bad Guy is still doing well.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/RACEGOD/X-PRO%20WRESTLING%20HISTORY/Scan10110.jpg)
Oh I know that, dude. Its all good. Check the website, there is another huge supercard coming to Madison Square Garden in the near future. Not sure when but I think its an actual Raw taping.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 26, 2011, 07:31:50 PM
"Hey Chico..."
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 27, 2011, 04:46:23 AM
"Hey Chico..."
His promo's that he did in a convertible cadillac with the leopard seat covers in Miami were gold.  :D
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 27, 2011, 04:50:23 AM
His promo's that he did in a convertible cadillac with the leopard seat covers in Miami were gold.  :D

I loved the toothpick flick thing, too.... and you are right, the promos were great....."Oooozing machismo...."
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 27, 2011, 10:09:04 AM
I loved the toothpick flick thing, too.... and you are right, the promos were great....."Oooozing machismo...."
"Something happen to the gold, something happen to you, chico."  ;D
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 27, 2011, 12:21:54 PM
I loved how he called Mr. Perfect "Perfecto".
I miss seeing Henning perform. I was watching my HHH dvd last night and it was just after HHH tore his quad the first time and it showed the RR ppv and Henning was one of the entrants. He still took all of those guys to school.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 27, 2011, 12:33:55 PM
I miss seeing Henning perform. I was watching my HHH dvd last night and it was just after HHH tore his quad the first time and it showed the RR ppv and Henning was one of the entrants. He still took all of those guys to school.

Hennig was a helluva wrestler.  WCW, not surprisingly, dropped the ball big-time with him.  Should have made him a Horseman and made him the focal title-holder of the group.  Idiots wasted him in the nWo.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: tu_holmes on January 27, 2011, 12:52:21 PM
People have to remember that if you make 100,000 dollars a year, it will take you 10 YEARS to make a million bucks.

If you can't live off of 8 Million or so, then you're fucked... That's 80 years of comfortable lifestyle.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 27, 2011, 01:02:54 PM
People have to remember that if you make 100,000 dollars a year, it will take you 10 YEARS to make a million bucks.

If you can't live off of 8 Million or so, then you're fucked... That's 80 years of comfortable lifestyle.

i agree....no reason someone can't live off of that very comfortably.
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: leaky_frog on January 27, 2011, 04:46:37 PM
I was stunned when I first learned how little many wrestlers made in the day, even in the WWF(E).  Just goes to show rich and famous can be mutually exclusive.  I remember the band Red Flag saying that after their first album was a hit, their new label bosses were going on and on about how famous they were going to be.  Their response was, "We'd rather be rich."
Title: Re: Any 70's/80's wrestlers well off
Post by: Playboy on January 28, 2011, 04:37:51 AM
[/b]People have to remember that if you make 100,000 dollars a year,[/b] it will take you 10 YEARS to make a million bucks.

If you can't live off of 8 Million or so, then you're fucked... That's 80 years of comfortable lifestyle.
And they make much more than that. One million dollars = one hundred thousand dollars interest per year. So eight million = eight hundred thousand dollars per year. I don't care what anyone says but that is a ton of cash.