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Title: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: The_Hammer on January 21, 2011, 02:56:22 PM
The guy was huge, but a vegetarian.  Where did he get his protein (other than sperm)? 

They didn't have protein powder back in his day.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: mass243 on January 21, 2011, 02:57:41 PM
You mean "protein" or protein?

No sources, please  8)


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: wes on January 21, 2011, 02:58:07 PM
The guy was huge, but a vegetarian.  Where did he get his protein (other than sperm)? 

They didn't have protein powder back in his day.
Steaks,eggs,fish,dairy products......ya` think?

Also heard he followed a diet regimen similar to "The Falcons".


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: JasonH on January 21, 2011, 02:58:40 PM
The guy was huge, but a vegetarian.  Where did he get his protein (other than sperm)? 

They didn't have protein powder back in his day.

They had dianabol though.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: The_Hammer on January 21, 2011, 03:17:20 PM
Steaks,eggs,fish,dairy products......ya` think?

Also heard he followed a diet regimen similar to "The Falcons".

He was a vegetarian though.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 21, 2011, 03:18:04 PM
They had dianabol though.

This^^


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: The_Hammer on January 21, 2011, 03:34:46 PM
So it's possible to build muscle without protein?!? ???


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: wes on January 21, 2011, 03:44:43 PM
I forgot he was a vegan...probably a lacto/ovo vegetarian.

Can`t see him with his build with little to no complete protein,plus I doubt that he was a vegan all of his life and most likely became one as he got older.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: GWAR on January 21, 2011, 03:49:08 PM
from the coach


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: 225for70 on January 21, 2011, 03:50:24 PM
from the coach

Hahaa,


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: TacoBell on January 21, 2011, 03:51:07 PM
I thought it came out that he got it from moosejay  :o


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 21, 2011, 03:56:53 PM
I thought it came out that he got it from moosejay  :o

Coach also


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: epic_alien on January 21, 2011, 04:01:47 PM
He was a vegetarian though.

he lied,  get over it


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Master Blaster on January 21, 2011, 04:04:17 PM
he lied,  get over it

He claimed to eat a shit load of eggs and cheese.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Dominator285 on January 21, 2011, 04:14:00 PM
from the coach
Straight from the tap?



Dom out!


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: GWAR on January 21, 2011, 04:15:52 PM
Straight from the tap?



Dom out!
thats right bro, straight from the tap...........(dramatic pause)  straight from the tap


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 21, 2011, 04:37:59 PM
Gee, didn't see any of this coming you flaming fags!


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: WillGrant on January 21, 2011, 04:52:06 PM
Gee, didn't see any of this coming you flaming fags!
What were the real dball doses like back then ? , it is Said Arnold measured his doses by the palm full as did sergio both men bigger than BP but I would assume it would of been the same for him ?


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 21, 2011, 04:52:22 PM
Gee, didn't see any of this coming you flaming fags!
Napoleonic persecution complex  :)


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2011, 05:07:04 PM
Yeah he was a pretty big dude, but he was also a fatass, did he even break sub-7?


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Jaime on January 21, 2011, 05:12:15 PM
Hi guys!!!


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Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Master Blaster on January 21, 2011, 05:15:31 PM
Yeah he was a pretty big dude, but he was also a fatass, did he even break sub-7?

he's way more ripped than you've ever been

(http://www.muscle-build.com/images/bill-pearl.jpg)


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Master Blaster on January 21, 2011, 05:16:59 PM
Huge Aryan Senior Citizen

(http://www.davedraper.com/site%20images/bill-pearl.jpg)


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2011, 05:21:45 PM
Not so master, I hit sub-6 some years back, God (gh15) even said so ;D


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 21, 2011, 05:23:18 PM
Not so master, I hit sub-6 some years back, God (gh15) even said so ;D

yeah but Bill won 3 Mr Universe titles, what did you win ::)


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2011, 05:26:00 PM
Good point


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 21, 2011, 05:27:40 PM
The guy was huge, but a vegetarian.  Where did he get his protein (other than sperm)? 

They didn't have protein powder back in his day.

Rheo Blair.  Every bodybuilder was going to him in California.  His milk and egg formula expensive but from all accounts was the shit


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Evo on January 21, 2011, 05:54:24 PM
Tim Bellenkamp was a veggie too IIRC.....he was a lump.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: benchmstr on January 21, 2011, 06:05:11 PM
when anything is ingested anally it absorbs faster, and better......pearl had a constant flow of "feeding tubes" to assist him known as gym members....

bench


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2011, 06:17:30 PM
Was/is Pearl really gay? I don't buy it, coz the dude was a hardass tough guy, and he even stood up to Arthur Jones, when Arthur pulled a gun on him. Now that's a true hardass tough guy.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: wes on January 21, 2011, 06:23:03 PM
Was/is Pearl really gay? I don't buy it, coz the dude was a hardass tough guy, and he even stood up to Arthur Jones, when Arthur pulled a gun on him. Now that's a true hardass tough guy.
Jones pulled a gun on Roger Callard,not Bill Pearl.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2011, 06:36:27 PM
Pearl wrote about this in his book "Beyond the Universe" he said something like Jones flashed his gun and the Pearl said something like "I will shove it up your ass"


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: benchmstr on January 21, 2011, 06:37:48 PM
Was/is Pearl really gay? I don't buy it, coz the dude was a hardass tough guy, and he even stood up to Arthur Jones, when Arthur pulled a gun on him. Now that's a true hardass tough guy.
there are stories of his gayness......

bench


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: BB on January 21, 2011, 07:00:46 PM
What were the real dball doses like back then ? , it is Said Arnold measured his doses by the palm full as did sergio both men bigger than BP but I would assume it would of been the same for him ?

It's hard to get a real answer on this, but the bigger Track and Field guys averaged about close to 50mg of it a day, plus 500-750 mg of test  a week and a few assorted orals like anadrol(usually 50mg a day), etc.... that's what circa late 60's-70's dosing seems to have looked like. I'd venture to say most of the better bodybuilders were on similar. When you read some of the actual stacks run by strength athletes during that time, it's hard to get a read on the actual oral dosage, because it seemed like many practiced the "orals don't count" theory of stacking.


I also heard it was Callard that Jones pulled his gun on, for smoking weed with his son. But Jones seemed like the type that liked to pull his gun out a lot.






Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 21, 2011, 07:01:39 PM
Off your mom's inner thigh...


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 21, 2011, 07:22:32 PM
Pearl wrote about this in his book "Beyond the Universe" he said something like Jones flashed his gun and the Pearl said something like "I will shove it up your ass"

No....most these children on here never even heard of him until they started coming on here and reading what the bullshitters made up.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 21, 2011, 10:08:28 PM
Pearl wrote about this in his book "Beyond the Universe" he said something like Jones flashed his gun and the Pearl said something like "I will shove it up your ass"

Sounds like Mr. Pearl may have pulled a J.Peterman and bought some stories for his book from Kramar


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Reeves on January 21, 2011, 10:30:57 PM
Huge Aryan Senior Citizen

(http://www.davedraper.com/site%20images/bill-pearl.jpg)

Actually, Bill's a great guy that happens to have quite a bit of American Indian in him.  He is also very heterosexual, more so than some that post here.  Currently resides near Medford, Oregon.  A genuinely great guy.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: WillGrant on January 21, 2011, 11:03:37 PM
It's hard to get a real answer on this, but the bigger Track and Field guys averaged about close to 50mg of it a day, plus 500-750 mg of test  a week and a few assorted orals like anadrol(usually 50mg a day), etc.... that's what circa late 60's-70's dosing seems to have looked like. I'd venture to say most of the better bodybuilders were on similar. When you read some of the actual stacks run by strength athletes during that time, it's hard to get a read on the actual oral dosage, because it seemed like many practiced the "orals don't count" theory of stacking.


I also heard it was Callard that Jones pulled his gun on, for smoking weed with his son. But Jones seemed like the type that liked to pull his gun out a lot.





Ah interesting thanks :) , wernt to football shaped dballs dosed at 2mg also ?


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Tito24 on January 22, 2011, 01:13:39 AM
daniel pearl


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: _bruce_ on January 22, 2011, 02:48:33 AM
he's way more ripped than you've ever been

(http://www.muscle-build.com/images/bill-pearl.jpg)

One man Rammstein.



Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: GWAR on January 22, 2011, 03:25:02 AM
One man Rammstein.


i bet the coach is down for some Bück dich


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2011, 03:42:15 AM
Jones didn't just pull a gun on Callard for trying to hook his son up with drugs, he actually took that gun of his and pistol whipped Callard, fucked him up pretty bad.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 22, 2011, 01:59:55 PM
One man Rammstein.




We all live in Amerika


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on January 22, 2011, 02:24:16 PM
Pearl wrote about this in his book "Beyond the Universe" he said something like Jones flashed his gun and the Pearl said something like "I will shove it up your ass"

Yes but possibly he was referring to his dick.

Hey Coach,  you said on a post a while ago that you got to wear a pair of Pearl's posing trunks after he gave you a loan of them. Didn't that feel a bit weird ?  Didn't that Moosejay guy also get to wear the famous trunks?
Just asking  ??? ???


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: BB on January 22, 2011, 10:42:08 PM
Ah interesting thanks :) , wernt to football shaped dballs dosed at 2mg also ?

Old Dianabol was 5 mg . Another thing that crossed my mind right now was that old story that "Xyz only took 5mg a day" that you'll repeated sometimes. Well that's partially true, Ziegler's recommended dose was 5mg a day, but Harold Connolly, who was a Track and Field record holder and a early user, mentioned that when he got on it in 1958 or 59, he and his contemporaries tried it for a month or two at dose and saw nothing. So they gradually bumped it up 5mg till they got to 20 mg a day that was where they felt they actually saw stunning changes(for their time).



Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: DSM18 on January 22, 2011, 11:05:26 PM
Hi guys!!!


(http://www.ifbb.com/images/joe/pic02.jpg)

i can never get over the striking similarity between the good Joe Weider and the infamous Albert Einstein.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2011, 11:21:21 PM
Yes but possibly he was referring to his dick.

Hey Coach,  you said on a post a while ago that you got to wear a pair of Pearl's posing trunks after he gave you a loan of them. Didn't that feel a bit weird ?  Didn't that Moosejay guy also get to wear the famous trunks?
Just asking  ??? ???

Well "Big Al" since it was my first contest and I had no idea where to get trunks from, Bill gave me trunks, the same ones he wore when he won the  71' Universe....8 years before he gave them to me. Yes, he was the one who helped me with my first posing routine..along with his wife Judy who also took them down (sewed them) so they would fit me and Ed Corney. Is it gay? hell no. Knowing Bill if anyone made that accusation in front of him he wouldn't hesitate beat your ass. Nice guy but don't piss him off or his brother Harry.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: WillGrant on January 22, 2011, 11:34:50 PM
Old Dianabol was 5 mg . Another thing that crossed my mind right now was that old story that "Xyz only took 5mg a day" that you'll repeated sometimes. Well that's partially true, Ziegler's recommended dose was 5mg a day, but Harold Connolly, who was a Track and Field record holder and a early user, mentioned that when he got on it in 1958 or 59, he and his contemporaries tried it for a month or two at dose and saw nothing. So they gradually bumped it up 5mg till they got to 20 mg a day that was where they felt they actually saw stunning changes(for their time).


Yes 20 mg is where I notice it also but if I try to go over 30mg then sides like painfull pumps from just walking up stairs , forearm pumps so cant hold the bar when training back etc just get to much.  :'(

I laugh at guys like Larry Scott saying they had a huge meeting to see if it was safe to bump the dose from 5mg to 10mg a day lol.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Meso_z on January 22, 2011, 11:36:56 PM
Yes 20 mg is where I notice it also but if I try to go over 30mg then sides like painfull pumps from just walking up stairs , forearm pumps so cant hold the bar when training back etc just get to much.  :'(

I laugh at guys like Larry Scott saying they had a huge meeting to see if it was safe to bump the dose from 5mg to 10mg a day lol.
;D


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 23, 2011, 12:09:16 AM
Ah interesting thanks :) , wernt to football shaped dballs dosed at 2mg also ?

I think Anavar tabs from back in those days were football shaped


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Fatpanda on January 23, 2011, 03:05:41 AM
Well "Big Al" since it was my first contest and I had no idea where to get trunks from, Bill gave me trunks, the same ones he wore when he won the  71' Universe....8 years before he gave them to me. Yes, he was the one who helped me with my first posing routine..along with his wife Judy who also took them down (sewed them) so they would fit me and Ed Corney. Is it gay? hell no. Knowing Bill if anyone made that accusation in front of him he wouldn't hesitate beat your ass. Nice guy but don't piss him off or his brother Harry.

joe, would you be so kind as to share your cycle back when you competed in those red speedo's pics ?

you looked great back then - and it would be interesting to hear what you took.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on January 23, 2011, 06:21:27 AM
Well "Big Al" since it was my first contest and I had no idea where to get trunks from, Bill gave me trunks, the same ones he wore when he won the  71' Universe....8 years before he gave them to me. Yes, he was the one who helped me with my first posing routine..along with his wife Judy who also took them down (sewed them) so they would fit me and Ed Corney. Is it gay? hell no. Knowing Bill if anyone made that accusation in front of him he wouldn't hesitate beat your ass. Nice guy but don't piss him off or his brother Harry.

Ed Corney wore them too? Did these trunks get modified by Judy and used by all different guys then?

I never saw a pic of Harry but heard he was bigger than Bill. 


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on January 23, 2011, 06:26:04 AM
joe, would you be so kind as to share your cycle back when you competed in those red speedo's pics ?

you looked great back then - and it would be interesting to hear what you took.


Pearl always played down his own steriod use. He is much bigger is pictures from the late 50's onwards compared to his natural status in the early 50's.
Coach, did Pearl give much advice on steriod taking activities?  Was it part of his training advice? In the 70's/80's  in Scotland the standard activity for size would be 25mg Dbol and a shot of decca every 2 weeks for a beginner.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: MCWAY on January 23, 2011, 08:13:56 AM
The guy was huge, but a vegetarian.  Where did he get his protein (other than sperm)? 

They didn't have protein powder back in his day.

Yes, they did. Soy protein was avaiable, although from all accounts, it tasted terrible.

And, as others have mentioned, Rheo Blair made a milk-and-egg protein powder that bodybuilders back his Pearl's day used.

Pearl was a lacto/ovo vegetarian, not a vegan (someone who consume NO animal products whatsoever). It's not that hard to put on size on a lacto-ovo vegetarian diet.

Nowadays, it's really not that hard to do so on a vegan diet. There are more pure veggie proteins available, than there were then. And, more dietary information is handy, regarding how to combine veggies and grains to get complete proteins.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: jpm101 on January 23, 2011, 08:50:57 AM
Said that Pearl's older brother was bigger and stronger than him. And that he did some serious prison time. Believe it was murder, years ago. This was when California joints had weight's and big brother was very impressive on doing benches. Any one confirm any of this? Reminds me that Sergio once said that his older  brother (back in Cuba..an Olympic lifter) was bigger and stronger than he was.

 Yes, genetics is a wonderful thing. Guy's like Pearl could probably eat nothing but grains and veggie's and get huge. Lower protein or not, their bodies were primed naturally for muscle size & strength. A lot of my Polynesian brothers are like that. Eat garbage,smoke cigars, drink 40's all day, little sleep and get massive and powerful through one or two workouts a week.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Reeves on January 23, 2011, 10:06:43 AM
Ed Corney wore them too? Did these trunks get modified by Judy and used by all different guys then?

I never saw a pic of Harry but heard he was bigger than Bill. 

Bill also loaned a pair of trunks to a young Dave Draper.  Bill is all class. 


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Lord of the Roidz on January 23, 2011, 10:11:20 AM
Yes 20 mg is where I notice it also but if I try to go over 30mg then sides like painfull pumps from just walking up stairs , forearm pumps so cant hold the bar when training back etc just get to much.  :'(

I laugh at guys like Larry Scott saying they had a huge meeting to see if it was safe to bump the dose from 5mg to 10mg a day lol.
Yes, but the great Romanian bodybuilder Sevastase claims to take over 100 mg a day. Isn't true if you want to get as awesome as him, you will require similar doses.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Dominator285 on January 23, 2011, 10:11:38 AM
Not long ago. I was reading somewhere where uncle fester was making fun of Mel Chancey wearing Jay's thong for good luck.



Not sure if it was made up or not.



Now that's funny!



Dom out!


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: funk51 on January 23, 2011, 11:46:12 AM
The guy was huge, but a vegetarian.  Where did he get his protein (other than sperm)? 

They didn't have protein powder back in his day.
LENTILS.....


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Formerly_Owner76 on January 23, 2011, 09:37:38 PM
I believe Harry Pearl did a botched abortion, and the lady died. Supposedly.


Title: Re: Where Did Bill Pearl Get His Protein?
Post by: Figo on January 24, 2011, 01:18:39 AM
What were the real dball doses like back then ? , it is Said Arnold measured his doses by the palm full as did sergio both men bigger than BP but I would assume it would of been the same for him ?

Freddy Ortiz did the same, apparently several handfuls throughout the day, they took it like it was dessicated liver tabs, it wasnt illegal, no stigma, and no-one was aware of potential health hazards