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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NarcissisticDeity on January 22, 2011, 03:18:52 PM
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Not many high quality pics from this contest ???
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Look at Jay
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on those pics i say Nasser, too big.
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Not strongest line up ever there :-\
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Levrone won The Most Muscular Award...I think this was Alq Gurley's last contest...
Or was it?
And has anybody noticed that certain competitors are a quality control meter of sorts. If they compete the field is better, if not it is kinda lax, or there is less concentration on certain things. For instance, if Flex was competing, most competitors would bring their A game to the Arnold...
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Levrone won The Most Muscular Award...I think this was Alq Gurley's last contest...
Or was it?
And has anybody noticed that certain competitors are a quality control meter of sorts. If they compete the field is better, if not it is kinda lax, or there is less concentration on certain things. For instance, if Flex was competing, most competitors would bring their A game to the Arnold...
Kinda funny Kev won the most muscular against a guy who was almost 290lbs lol and this and the Ironman were Alq's last contests placing 10th here and 7th at the Ironman , maybe he was trying to get the acting thing going?
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Last pic of Cormier, he has apeak on his shoulder and nipple!! :-X :-X
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Last pic of Cormier, he has apeak on his shoulder and nipple!! :-X :-X
it's way the light plays on his delts---look at them from other angles you see them...if you are implying that he had used synthol---his delts have looked the same since he was a NPC competitor...it was Flex the next yr (2000) that took to another level
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it's way the light plays on his delts---look at them from other angles you see them...if you are implying that he had used synthol---his delts have looked the same since he was a NPC competitor...it was Flex the next yr (2000) that took to another level
I don't know Parker?! There's something suspicious going on in the Delt there!! No delts poke up like that!!
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I don't know Parker?! There's something suspicious going on in the Delt there!! No delts poke up like that!!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=363750.0;attach=399403;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=363750.0;attach=399405;image)
if you lookat each pic, you see that there is no "suspicious lumps", rather roundness...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=363750.0;attach=399404;image)
Trace the roundness of it and compare it to the top pic in which he is doing a front lat spread, where he has his arms in a similar position, uet not flexing his delts...
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Levrone looks good in the lineup but he doesn't look any more muscular than Jay or Chris or Gunter or Vince, etc... Looks very close between Nasser, Vince and Chris for the overall.
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Patrick Lynn was in the lineup, and that dude was thick as hell.
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on those pics i say Nasser, too big.
the wizard was 287 pounds and in a very good condition!!.. still not at his best but was good enough to dominate the stage..
kevin was far away from his normal good shape size wise and condition wise!!.. looks small and soft at the same time..
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chris should have been the runner up!!.. levrone was clearly off!!..
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it was not even close 8)
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the wizard was 287 pounds and in a very good condition!!.. still not at his best but was good enough to dominate the stage..
kevin was far away from his normal good shape size wise and condition wise!!.. looks small and soft at the same time..
yep, Nasser was soo good that he didn't win the most Muscular award, typically the winner of the show wins that as well, so it tells you something, Nasser maybe 287, but due to not having the muscle in the right areas---and lack of detailing, he is very muh flawed--and not of the caliber of Flex, Dorian, Shawn, Levrone---when they are on and Nasser is on, he loses
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yep, Nasser was soo good that he didn't win the most Muscular award, typically the winner of the show wins that as well, so it tells you something, Nasser maybe 287, but due to not having the muscle in the right areas---and lack of detailing, he is very muh flawed--and not of the caliber of Flex, Dorian, Shawn, Levrone---when they are on and Nasser is on, he loses
but what is your explanation that he beat shawn and kevin MANY TIMES when they were on?! :-X
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but what is your explanation that he beat shawn and kevin MANY TIMES when they were on?! :-X
when was that? ???
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Forgot about Roland Kickinger, he fell off the face of the earth
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when was that? ???
shawn was on in mr. olympia 95, 97, &, 98 and was beaten by nasser.. same can be said about levrone in 97 and 98!!.. dont tell me kevin was not at his absolute best in these 2 shows because nasser too was not but still both of them were on..
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but what is your explanation that he beat shawn and kevin MANY TIMES when they were on?! :-X
Shawn was a smaller dude, who also chastised and criticized the judges, and many times his places were punishment, as one judge (who is now dead, and King Kamali infamously had thanked for his pro card), Shawn Ray, comes in looking the same, and Shawn questioned her and got into with her and other judges. Most people, not just on this board, but in the bbing community would consider Shawn Ray a far more complete bber than Nasser, and should have placed higher than Nasser.
Kevin was a story of small Kev vs big Kev, After Kev won the Arnold 2X, he would just show up to collect a check, and he was small, then he would ramp up for the Mr. O. Kev also had a leg injury...
But, none of those guy ever showed up in the condition that Nasser yrs later at the Arnold---shitty back and abcess...he should have never competed.
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shawn was on in mr. olympia 95, 97, &, 98 and was beaten by nasser.. same can be said about levrone in 97 and 98!!.. dont tell me kevin was not at his absolute best in these 2 shows because nasser too was not but still both of them were on..
Shawn was better in 94 and 96 guess who he beat then Nasser , and Nasser was on in 1996 more so than 1997 and Levrone's best was 92/95 and you know the deal
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Shawn was better in 94 and 96 guess who he beat then Nasser , and Nasser was on in 1996 more so than 1997 and Levrone's best was 92/95 and you know the deal
according to flex magazine (your own bible and main source of your claims) ray was the same in 95 as 94 ;)..
and again and by all means he was still on in 95 even if you are trying to say he was better in other years.. and nasser in 94 was still a 2nd level pro. so it's assholness to compare him then by ray who was the runner up.. it's like saying mr. XXX and YYY beat ronnie coleman in 1992!!!..
also nasser never faced any of the VERY top pros of the 90s at his very best shape which he presented in 1995 at the NOC..
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according to flex magazine (your own bible and main source of your claims) ray was the same in 95 as 94 ;)..
and again and by all means he was still on in 95 even if you are trying to say he was better in other years.. and nasser in 94 was still a 2nd level pro. so it's assholness to compare him then by ray who was the runner up.. it's like saying mr. XXX and YYY beat ronnie coleman in 1992!!!..
also nasser never faced any of the VERY top pros of the 90s at his very best shape which he presented in 1995 at the NOC..
I don't think so , he was more the same in 192/93/94 ;)
the bottom line is Nasser who said his best year was 1996 was beaten by Shawn Ray in 1996
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Since when did they base an entire contest on one pose? oh that's right they don't which is why Nasser lost ;)
Dorian at his worse still soundly beats Nasser , this speaks volumes on how great Dorian was and proves my point about Nasser not being good enough to run with the bog dogs :D
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I don't think so , he was more the same in 192/93/94 ;)
the bottom line is Nasser who said his best year was 1996 was beaten by Shawn Ray in 1996
the bottom line is you have nothing to say after i proved you were wrong to say nasser never beat shawn and levrone when they were on..
conclusion: you lose as always when it comes to logic and let's not forget your funny gems on GB when you said Fux was a mr. olympia material and that nasser's frame was not built to be a mass monster and that dorain was proportioned in 97 :-X :-\ :-X
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Since when did they base an entire contest on one pose? oh that's right they don't which is why Nasser lost ;)
Dorian at his worse still soundly beats Nasser , this speaks volumes on how great Dorian was and proves my point about Nasser not being good enough to run with the bog dogs :D
yates imo had the best back ever and in this shot he clearly owns both ray and nasser by a far distance.. and i respect yates as a great champ but in 97 he didnt deserve to win and if you are saying nasser looked bad in the 2 back poses dorian looked very bad in more than 2 poses!!..
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the bottom line is you have nothing to say after i proved you were wrong to say nasser never beat shawn and levrone when they were on..
conclusion: you lose as always when it comes to logic and let's not forget your funny gems on GB when you said Fux was a mr. olympia material and that nasser's frame was not built to be a mass monster and that dorain was proportioned in 97 :-X :-\ :-X
You proved NOTHING as usual Nasser and Shawn were both dead-on in 1996 , no excuses , where did Nasser place at the 1996 Mr Olympia? ummm before he was DQ'ed for diuretics? ;)
Now you're reduced to lying , I did absolutely say Fux was Mr Olympia material under the right set of circumstances , and I never said Nasser's frame wasn't built to be a mass-monster that's an out right lie you keep perpetuating , I did in fact say he carried his size well and playing mass monster didn't do anything for him because his back went to shit for it among other things
and Dorian was proportioned in 97? show me the context I said this because I've already showed you have poor comprehension skills and make shit up when you get frustrated , back up your empty claims for one ;)
Shawn was on in 1996 , Nasser was too in fact so much so he claimed he deserved to win the Olympia , I'll ask again where did Dorian , Shawn and Nasser place at this contest? ;)
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yates imo had the best back ever and in this shot he clearly owns both ray and nasser by a far distance.. and i respect yates as a great champ but in 97 he didnt deserve to win and if you are saying nasser looked bad in the 2 back poses dorian looked very bad in more than 2 poses!!..
You're getting off-topic
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You proved NOTHING as usual Nasser and Shawn were both dead-on in 1996 , no excuses , where did Nasser place at the 1996 Mr Olympia? ummm before he was DQ'ed for diuretics? ;)
Now you're reduced to lying , I did absolutely say Fux was Mr Olympia material under the right set of circumstances , and I never said Nasser's frame wasn't built to be a mass-monster that's an out right lie you keep perpetuating , I did in fact say he carried his size well and playing mass monster didn't do anything for him because his back went to shit for it among other things
and Dorian was proportioned in 97? show me the context I said this because I've already showed you have poor comprehension skills and make shit up when you get frustrated , back up your empty claims for one ;)
Shawn was on in 1996 , Nasser was too in fact so much so he claimed he deserved to win the Olympia , I'll ask again where did Dorian , Shawn and Nasser place at this contest? ;)
but i didnt mentioned 96!!.. i am not talking here about places nasser should have taken i am talking about the places he really took!!.. so in 95, 97, and, 98 he beat ray and you can't say ray was not on in any of these years EVEN IF HE WAS NOT AT HIS VERY BEST!!.. same can be said about levrone in 97 and 98.. so again we were wrong to object on what i said that nasser beat ray and kevin when they were on at many occasions..
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You're getting off-topic
no i am not.. you posted a pic. from 97 so i was just commenting on it!!..
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but i didnt mentioned 96!!.. i am not talking here about places nasser should have taken i am talking about the places he really took!!.. so in 95, 97, and, 98 he beat ray and you can't say ray was not on in any of these years EVEN IF HE WAS NOT AT HIS VERY BEST!!.. same can be said about levrone in 97 and 98.. so again we were wrong to object on what i said that nasser beat ray and kevin when they were on at many occasions..
Bottom line when the real top guys are on Nasser LOSES when their off , he wins. not his fault but it's a fact and of course you don't want to mention 1996 because your point becomes null & void , both Shawn and Nasser were dead on the money and where did Nasser place?
Kevin's best wasn't 97 or 98 by any stretch more fluff from you
Nasser is NOT as good as you people try and make him out to be , history proves me right.
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no i am not.. you posted a pic. from 97 so i was just commenting on it!!..
You're claiming at their bests Nasser wins which isn't true , you opened that door which is off topic of the 99 ASC
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Hey Nasser how did that mass monster thing work out for you? hahahahahahahahahaha not very good not for your back at least ;D
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Bottom line when the real top guys are on Nasser LOSES when their off , he wins. not his fault but it's a fact and of course you don't want to mention 1996 because your point becomes null & void , both Shawn and Nasser were dead on the money and where did Nasser place?
Kevin's best wasn't 97 or 98 by any stretch more fluff from you
Nasser is NOT as good as you people try and make him out to be , history proves me right.
but i didnt say kevin's best was in 97 or 98!!.. all what i said he was not off and was beaten by nasser (who too was not at his best) and this is against your objection when i said nasser beat ray and kevin many times when they were on..
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You're claiming at their bests Nasser wins which isn't true , you opened that door which is off topic of the 99 ASC
man you really have nothing to say!!.. i didnt say at there best i said when they were on and there is a big difference.. give you an example to simplify it so you can understand (as i do with my 3 years kid) and i will use dorian in the example because i know you love him:
- dorian was on in 1992..
- doran was on in 1993 and it was his best shape ever..
you finally got it now??.. :D
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but i didnt say kevin's best was in 97 or 98!!.. all what i said he was not off and was beaten by nasser (who too was not at his best) and this is against your objection when i said nasser beat ray and kevin many times when they were on..
many times? Kevin wiped the floor with Nasser , wanna revisit that thread? and how many times exactly did Nasser beat Shawn? three times , so much for many times
stop trying to fluff up how many times Nasser beat Shawn & Kevin because it was more often than not that they were beating him
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man you really have nothing to say!!.. i didnt say at there best i said when they were on and there is a big difference.. give you an example to simplify it so you can understand (as i do with my 3 years kid) and i will use dorian in the example because i know you love him:
- dorian was on in 1992..
- doran was on in 1993 and it was his best shape ever..
you finally got it now??.. :D
Nasser still got his ass handed to him by Kevin & Shawn more than he beat them , simple math , Nasser wasn't as good as them
Kevin beat Nasser 24 times , Nasser beat Kevin 10, Shawn beat Nasser 5 times , Nasser beat him 3 times
this irrefutably proves Nasser wasn't as good as either regardless of who was at their best or not , you can't argue with facts kid
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Nasser still got his ass handed to him by Kevin & Shawn more than he beat them , simple math , Nasser wasn't as good as them
Kevin beat Nasser 24 times , Nasser beat Kevin 10, Shawn beat Nasser 5 times , Nasser beat him 3 times
this irrefutably proves Nasser wasn't as good as either regardless of who was at their best or not , you can't argue with facts kid
but still my claim that nasser beat them when they were on (which you didn't agree with) is proved to be right so all what you are saying here has no value in our argument!!..
dorian's boy loses again,.. nothing new..
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but still my claim that nasser beat them when they were on (which you didn't agree with) is proved to be right so all what you are saying here has no value in our argument!!..
dorian's boy loses again,.. nothing new..
Your claim is shit plain & simple , Nasser lost to them more than he beat them , Kevin and Shawn beat him he was on too , you have no point as usual
Nasser was and is an inferior bodybuilder to Kevin , Shawn , Flex , Ronnie , Dorian , shall I continue? Kevin was a part-time bodybuilder who didn't train more than he did , imagine if he when year round? the discrepancy between him and Nasser would have been even greater ;) Nasser devoted his whole to bodybuilding and routinely got his ass handed to him by part-time bodybuilders , and guys who weighed 70lbs less than him ;D nevermind the King Dorian
like Nasser you're a loser ;)
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I tend to experience deja vu a lot on these threads...
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I tend to experience deja vu a lot on these threads...
yeah Sherief getting his ass handed to him for constantly trying to fluff up Nasser to something he wasn't , what else do you expect from someone who dedicated a Facebook page to him :-X
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Shawn was a smaller dude, who also chastised and criticized the judges, and many times his places were punishment, as one judge (who is now dead, and King Kamali infamously had thanked for his pro card), Shawn Ray, comes in looking the same, and Shawn questioned her and got into with her and other judges. Most people, not just on this board, but in the bbing community would consider Shawn Ray a far more complete bber than Nasser, and should have placed higher than Nasser.
Kevin was a story of small Kev vs big Kev, After Kev won the Arnold 2X, he would just show up to collect a check, and he was small, then he would ramp up for the Mr. O. Kev also had a leg injury...
But, none of those guy ever showed up in the condition that Nasser yrs later at the Arnold---shitty back and abcess...he should have never competed.
Oh brother you can't hide your bias and love towards the black even if you tried. When Nasser fans say he was chastised by judges people cry "how could he have placed well in many shows then?!" yet now you're blatantly claiming that Shawn Ray was chastised by judges lol. And then your next paragraph goes on to say that Kevin wasn't trying to win but just collect a cheque? You are always full of excuses whenever a Black competitor does not win or places below someone you don't like such as Nasser.
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Oh brother you can't hide your bias and love towards the black even if you tried. When Nasser fans say he was chastised by judges people cry "how could he have placed well in many shows then?!" yet now you're blatantly claiming that Shawn Ray was chastised by judges lol. And then your next paragraph goes on to say that Kevin wasn't trying to win but just collect a cheque? You are always full of excuses whenever a Black competitor does not win or places below someone you don't like such as Nasser.
look the black bodybuilders are better--Kev, Flex, Shawn, etc. Nasser lost to a 224 pound Flex, and flex never came in his best at the O except 93, when he was still off, and had Nasser competed in 1993, he would have lost then. In terms of looks and physique, you ask anybody on the street, Flex, Shawn, Kev would all have had the vote over the googely eyed George Castanza lookalike...
Furthermore your bias towards your man crush is unhidden
Face it, they were, are, and always will be better. And i just don't agree with it.
And Shawn was chastise by the judges, know your shit, it has been written. he had beef with the dead blonde female judge.
And yes, Kev, would come in out of shape for the Arnold, and finish behind Lee Priest---then come back and beast out at the O. Again, know your shit. Even Ronnie questioned Kev's methods...the small Kevin vs the Big Kevin.
Various bbers have their own method when it comes to contests. Flex's was to win big draw shows and to use the Ironman as a gauge for the Arnold.
Shawn's was to place in the top five. Kev's strategy was haphazard...plus he was going thru a lot of issues...
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look the black bodybuilders are better--Kev, Flex, Shawn, etc. Nasser lost to a 224 pound Flex, and flex never came in his best at the O except 93, when he was still off, and had Nasser competed in 1993, he would have lost then. In terms of looks and physique, you ask anybody on the street, Flex, Shawn, Kev would all have had the vote over the googely eyed George Castanza lookalike...
Furthermore your bias towards your man crush is unhidden
Face it, they were, are, and always will be better. And i just don't agree with it.
And Shawn was chastise by the judges, know your shit, it has been written. he had beef with the dead blonde female judge.
And yes, Kev, would come in out of shape for the Arnold, and finish behind Lee Priest---then come back and beast out at the O. Again, know your shit. Even Ronnie questioned Kev's methods...the small Kevin vs the Big Kevin.
Various bbers have their own method when it comes to contests. Flex's was to win big draw shows and to use the Ironman as a gauge for the Arnold.
Shawn's was to place in the top five. Kev's strategy was haphazard...plus he was going thru a lot of issues...
It's no coincidence these guys were all better , these guys just can't accept the fact that Nasser is no where near as great as they hyped him up to be , he simply wasn't in their league facts prove this and when they facts contradict what they say then the facts are suspect , you don't take these people seriously you just laugh at them.
Kevin has the second highest amount of pro wins in IFBB history this is astounding considering he really was a part-time bodybuilder who always crammed for the big exam come contest time , imagine what he could have done if he trained like Dorian 365 days a week? if he kept fastidious records and measured and weighed all his food? he really would have done damage , I remember Shawn Kevin a rockstar playing bodybuilder
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It's no coincidence these guys were all better , these guys just can't accept the fact that Nasser is no where near as great as they hyped him up to be , he simply wasn't in their league facts prove this and when they facts contradict what they say then the facts are suspect , you don't take these people seriously you just laugh at them.
Kevin has the second highest amount of pro wins in IFBB history this is astounding considering he really was a part-time bodybuilder who always crammed for the big exam come contest time , imagine what he could have done if he trained like Dorian 365 days a week? if he kept fastidious records and measured and weighed all his food? he really would have done damage , I remember Shawn Kevin a rockstar playing bodybuilder
Didn't you say before that Shawn was not that great of a bodybuilder since he only won 2 pro shows?
Seems like your opinions change based on who you happen to be debating against ;)
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look the black bodybuilders are better--Kev, Flex, Shawn, etc. Nasser lost to a 224 pound Flex, and flex never came in his best at the O except 93, when he was still off, and had Nasser competed in 1993, he would have lost then. In terms of looks and physique, you ask anybody on the street, Flex, Shawn, Kev would all have had the vote over the googely eyed George Castanza lookalike...
Furthermore your bias towards your man crush is unhidden
Face it, they were, are, and always will be better. And i just don't agree with it.
And Shawn was chastise by the judges, know your shit, it has been written. he had beef with the dead blonde female judge.
And yes, Kev, would come in out of shape for the Arnold, and finish behind Lee Priest---then come back and beast out at the O. Again, know your shit. Even Ronnie questioned Kev's methods...the small Kevin vs the Big Kevin.
Various bbers have their own method when it comes to contests. Flex's was to win big draw shows and to use the Ironman as a gauge for the Arnold.
Shawn's was to place in the top five. Kev's strategy was haphazard...plus he was going thru a lot of issues...
lol ONE judge ddin't like Shawn, Nasser mentioned several judges and IFBB officials that he did not get along with either.
And you've already shown that you don't consider judging decisions to be the end-all so your example of Nasser losing to Flex is also void, otherwise you are simply picking and choosing when contest results are meaningful and when they are not. And of course you only pick that they are meaningful when they favour your Black bodybuilders.
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Didn't you say before that Shawn was not that great of a bodybuilder since he only won 2 pro shows?
Seems like your opinions change based on who you happen to be debating against ;)
Absolutely I said that however , Shawn was consistently better than Nasser :D and we're talking about hype , Nasser is NO WHERE near as great as you people hype him to be , and neither is Shawn
Great is a term reserved for the best ( and often way over used ) of the best and Nasser & Shawn aren't in that elite list
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lol ONE judge ddin't like Shawn, Nasser mentioned several judges and IFBB officials that he did not get along with either.
And you've already shown that you don't consider judging decisions to be the end-all so your example of Nasser losing to Flex is also void, otherwise you are simply picking and choosing when contest results are meaningful and when they are not. And of course you only pick that they are meaningful when they favour your Black bodybuilders.
Don't be a hypocrite Mr ' Great Arab genetics ' and constantly push how great Arab bodybuilders are ( which I don't have a problem with ) but don't be the pot calling the kettle black
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lol ONE judge ddin't like Shawn, Nasser mentioned several judges and IFBB officials that he did not get along with either.
And you've already shown that you don't consider judging decisions to be the end-all so your example of Nasser losing to Flex is also void, otherwise you are simply picking and choosing when contest results are meaningful and when they are not. And of course you only pick that they are meaningful when they favour your Black bodybuilders.
It's not one judge, Shawn ruffled feathers, he called for the rotation of judges. Shawn was consistent in criticizing judges. He spoke when Nasser didn't...Nasser is a passive-aggresive dude who didn't like confrontation, as it shows now.... Shawn also was against the methods of Chad Nicholls, of which Nasser used the services of.
Again, Nasser was good, but you also push the Great Arab Genetics, which there are very few arab bbers, which I believe is part of your reason for shoving the half Egyptian (with African blood ) down our throats...he was not as good as Flex or Shawn, or Kev, and aesthetically he was not in their league as well, and hell, I would gather most women would like them more than Nasser
Let me give you personal perspective: Back when Nasser had his cover on Flex Magazine, when he was doing his most muscular, I was in Rite Aide, and a guy and a girl and clerk saw the cover--the guy commented on how Nasser looked like a nerd on steriods, the clerk (who was a female) and the girl had commented that he was a nerdy guy who wore glasses from the early 90's and had a bad comb over. i bought the magazine---at another time
When Kev Levrone had his cover, i bought the mag, and the same clerk who commented on Nasser was behind the counter, she talked about how hot Kev was, and how she saw him at Cancun Cantina and how kev was a ladies man...around my way, this rep tends to follow Kev (I am from Kev's area).
If the general public has this perception of of Nasser vs. Kev, it shows that the "beautiful man with glasses" is a Great man only in his mind and yours.
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Oh brother you can't hide your bias and love towards the black even if you tried. When Nasser fans say he was chastised by judges people cry "how could he have placed well in many shows then?!" yet now you're blatantly claiming that Shawn Ray was chastised by judges lol. And then your next paragraph goes on to say that Kevin wasn't trying to win but just collect a cheque? You are always full of excuses whenever a Black competitor does not win or places below someone you don't like such as Nasser.
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typical pumpkinhead jealousy of NAsser ::)
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typical pumpkinhead jealousy of NAsser ::)
says the gimmick
no one is jealous of Nasser , he's a failure , if I did subscribe to jealously it would be of Arnold a real success unlike Nasser the bitter washed up ex carrying on about how he should have won the big one , it's all he has.
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Levrone was one of the most cocky, arrogant and rude BB's of his era
just have a look @ the BFO 2002
dvd where De Milia chastises Kevin for always being late to competitors meetings
btw, Kevin is also an alcoholic- might explain why he had to take long breaks from steroids as his ASt and ALT and GGT were already way up from his alcohol abuse
kevin was also a minimum 5 gram testosterone/week guy (not including anabolics)- this was told to me by an englsih pro who saw Levrone's dr who prescribed for him
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Levrone was one of the most cocky, arrogant and rude BB's of his era
just have a look @ the BFO 2002
dvd where De Milia chastises Kevin for always being late to competitors meetings
btw, Kevin is also an alcoholic- might explain why he had to take long breaks from steroids as his ASt and ALT and GGT were already way up from his alcohol abuse
kevin was also a minimum 5 gram testosterone/week guy (not including anabolics)- this was told to me by an englsih pro who saw Levrone's dr who prescribed for him
And he still owned Nasser consistently so much for great Arab genetics ;D
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says the gimmick
no one is jealous of Nasser , he's a failure , if I did subscribe to jealously it would be of Arnold a real success unlike Nasser the bitter washed up ex carrying on about how he should have won the big one , it's all he has.
what success have you achieved in your life?
you appear to spend so much time here- have you no friends, girlfriend, job, achievements, hobbies?
you do appear to love BB and dorian yates.
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what success have you achieved in your life?
you appear to spend so much time here- have you no friends, girlfriend, job, achievements, hobbies?
you do appear to love BB and dorian yates.
Oh shift the topic when you fall flat on your face ;D diversionary tactic anyone?
You're the one suckling Nasser's teet and you have the balls to type anyone has no life? hahahahahaha
no one is jealous of washed-up Nasser , the guy is a has-bin bitching & complaining about how he was screwed over by the man , a two-faced liar who pretended to be a ' nice guy ' until he can't use anyone anymore
I loved the fact that Dorian kicked his ass throughout his entire career you got me there ;D
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Always interesting when individuals can not get "though" to people and Convince others that "there guy" was the best, and so out of Frustration they Resort to "insulting" the person in Question about what they think the person actually does do in his life out of Getbig, Fact is/was Nasser was a Very Very good BBer in his day...that much is Correct and true, the BEST he Never was, why this Debate continues is Bizarre @ best, Desperate @ worst.
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but what is your explanation that he beat shawn and kevin MANY TIMES when they were on?! :-X
Parker is obviously biased towards the black bodybuilder, which makes his opinion inadmissible.
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says the gimmick
no one is jealous of Nasser , he's a failure , if I did subscribe to jealously it would be of Arnold a real success unlike Nasser the bitter washed up ex carrying on about how he should have won the big one , it's all he has.
Well, I have to defend Nasser here. He is certainly not a failure. He is one of the most successful pros ever. Just becoming a pro is a tremendous accomplishment and there are tons of great amateurs who never turn pro( think Edgar Fletcher). And most pros never qualify for the big shows(Olympia, Arnold, NY Pro, CPC, Ironman Pro Invitational or the European Grand Prix shows). Nasser not only turned pro and qualified for the big shows, but he also won the second biggest show in bodybuilding and placed second at the biggest one. Great achievements. Nasser is undoubtedly one of the greats. It's just that, when you compare him to true bodybuilding colossuses like Yates, Ronnie and Arnie he comes a little bit short. But yeah, I agree that he is being petty by dedicating his life to bitching about not winning the O over 13 years ago. And Dorian destroyed him not only as a bodybuilder but also as a Human Being by winning the Olympia in 97'. Poor Nasser didn't recover.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Well, I have to defend Nasser here. He is certainly not a failure. He is one of the most successful pros ever. Just becoming a pro is a tremendous accomplishment and there are tons of great amateurs who never turn pro( think Edgar Fletcher). And most pros never qualify for the big shows(Olympia, Arnold, NY Pro, CPC, Ironman Pro Invitational or the European Grand Prix shows). Nasser not only turned pro and qualified for the big shows, but he also won the second biggest show in bodybuilding and placed second at the biggest one. Great achievements. Nasser is undoubtedly one of the greats. It's just that, when you compare him to true bodybuilding colossuses like Yates, Ronnie and Arnie he comes a little bit short. But yeah, I agree that he is being petty by dedicating his life to bitching about not winning the O over 13 years ago. And Dorian destroyed him not only as a bodybuilder but also as a Human Being by winning the Olympia in 97'. Poor Nasser didn't recover.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Agreed. One of the best ever, despite him revealing the truth about everyones phony heros.
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Always interesting when individuals can not get "though" to people and Convince others that "there guy" was the best, and so out of Frustration they Resort to "insulting" the person in Question about what they think the person actually does do in his life out of Getbig, Fact is/was Nasser was a Very Very good BBer in his day...that much is Correct and true, the BEST he Never was, why this Debate continues is Bizarre @ best, Desperate @ worst.
no johnny it was not that way at all.. i only mentioned that nasser beat kevin and shawn at more than one occasion when they were on and this is a fact but ND didn't agree with this.. then when i mentioned the shows i meant and he couldnt argue that shawn and kevin were really on in these shows he started to change the topic and make it comparisons between nasser and these guys in general and who beat who more ::)
dont tell me shawn was not on in 95, 97, and, 98.. the guy was always on and i respect him for that and nasser beat him in these years.. kevin too was on in 97 and 98 and was beaten by nasser so my claim was very true.. and i made this claim when paker mentioned that nasser NEVER beat any of the top guys when they were on!!..
sure nasser was one of the very best pros in his time and we are not trying to put him in a better position.. we just put him in the right place when these ppl try to change the reality to show that nasser was not among the best.. all of us who are in their 30s now know the 90s era very well and know who was nasser in it!!..
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I was making Reference to what Swami was trading with ND on, i stand bye what i said However regarding Nasser in that he was Very Very good just never the Best @ what he Done.
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I was making Reference to what Swami was trading with ND on, i stand bye what i said However regarding Nasser in that he was Very Very good just never the Best @ what he Done.
same can be said about ray, kevin, and flex that they were very very good but not the best so nasser was among them as i mentioned.. and it's very strange from ppl like ND and paker to say the guy who won the NOC and the AC and was placed very well in the olympia not from the very best!!..
imo the only thing guys like ray and kevin have over nasser is that they ended their careers in better ways than nasser but when they were all in their best days sure they were all considered in the same level and not to add that nasser was the crowd favorites and he and dorian were the 2 most popular bbs in the mid 90s with no one close to their popularity.. also after 95 mr. olympia nasser was the only guy that made ppl think he could really beat dorian and be mr. olympia.. ray, kevin, and even flex were never taken seriously when it came to dethroning yates!!..
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The same could be said about the above mentioned as None of that lot were THE BEST as in NUMBER 1 as well, the only way you could say going on statistics who was "better" of that lot is....well who won the Most pro shows out of them or who won the most A/C contests out of them........... or as some of said Going head to head as in Nasser v Kevin...Nasser v Flex etc....going on that basis it would be etheir Kevin or Flex or even Vince Taylor who if memory's serves right won a heap of Pro titles back in the day including the Masters O, im not sure where Nasser places among them as well i have no idea how many shows he won compared to that group as well............Bottom Line none of them won the MR OLYMPIA TITLE that Distinction as the Undisputed number 1 belongs to Haney, Yates, Coleman during their respective Eras
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The same could be said about the above mentioned as None of that lot were THE BEST as in NUMBER 1 as well, the only way you could say going on statistics who was "better" of that lot is....well who won the Most pro shows out of them or who won the most A/C contests out of them........... or as some of said Going head to head as in Nasser v Kevin...Nasser v Flex etc....going on that basis it would be etheir Kevin or Flex or even Vince Taylor who if memory's serves right won a heap of Pro titles back in the day including the Masters O, im not sure where Nasser places among them as well i have no idea how many shows he won compared to that group as well............Bottom Line none of them won the MR OLYMPIA TITLE that Distinction as the Undisputed number 1 belongs to Haney, Yates, Coleman during their respective Eras
no doubt dorian's career is the best among all the 90s top pros and he was the man to beat!!.. at his best (93 and 95) no one can argue he was a great mr. olympia..
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no johnny it was not that way at all.. i only mentioned that nasser beat kevin and shawn at more than one occasion when they were on and this is a fact but ND didn't agree with this.. then when i mentioned the shows i meant and he couldnt argue that shawn and kevin were really on in these shows he started to change the topic and make it comparisons between nasser and these guys in general and who beat who more ::)
dont tell me shawn was not on in 95, 97, and, 98.. the guy was always on and i respect him for that and nasser beat him in these years.. kevin too was on in 97 and 98 and was beaten by nasser so my claim was very true.. and i made this claim when paker mentioned that nasser NEVER beat any of the top guys when they were on!!..
sure nasser was one of the very best pros in his time and we are not trying to put him in a better position.. we just put him in the right place when these ppl try to change the reality to show that nasser was not among the best.. all of us who are in their 30s now know the 90s era very well and know who was nasser in it!!..
I didn't change the topic I broadened it to show you the big picture and where Nasser fit in compared against two guys that were routinely better bodybuilders. I gave you a prime example 1996 Mr Olympia Nasser was on and so was Shawn Ray where did Nasser finish? behind Shawn because he wasn't good enough to beat a 205lb bodybuilder , same with Nasser and Kevin in 1995 who beat who when both were on? Kevin as usual.
If Kevin and Shawn were on and so was Nasser he was going to lose , period. why? he's not in their league period. the best of the 90s was Dorian bar none he was the top of the heap , then Flex. Flex if he was on ( and even if he wasn't ) could beat anyone , then Kevin and Shawn and then further down the rung is Nasser , this is a fact of life. You people always try and rewrite history and act like Nasser was something more than he was which was a B tier pro who even when he was at his best still would get beat by better guys.
As long as you guys keep trying to fluff up Nasser's accomplishments I'll keep beating you over the head with facts.
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same can be said about ray, kevin, and flex that they were very very good but not the best so nasser was among them as i mentioned.. and it's very strange from ppl like ND and paker to say the guy who won the NOC and the AC and was placed very well in the olympia not from the very best!!..
imo the only thing guys like ray and kevin have over nasser is that they ended their careers in better ways than nasser but when they were all in their best days sure they were all considered in the same level and not to add that nasser was the crowd favorites and he and dorian were the 2 most popular bbs in the mid 90s with no one close to their popularity.. also after 95 mr. olympia nasser was the only guy that made ppl think he could really beat dorian and be mr. olympia.. ray, kevin, and even flex were never taken seriously when it came to dethroning yates!!..
same can be said about ray, kevin, and flex that they were very very good but not the best so nasser was among them as i mentioned.. and it's very strange from ppl like ND and paker to say the guy who won the NOC and the AC and was placed very well in the olympia not from the very best!!..
Nasser isn't in their league and ironic that the NOC and AC wasn't against Flex or Shawn , although the AC was and he barely beat a way off Levrone who still managed to walk away with the most muscular title against a 287 pound Nasser , what's that tell you?
imo the only thing guys like ray and kevin have over nasser is that they ended their careers in better ways than nasser but when they were all in their best days sure they were all considered in the same level and not to add that nasser was the crowd favorites and he and dorian were the 2 most popular bbs in the mid 90s with no one close to their popularity.. also after 95 mr. olympia nasser was the only guy that made ppl think he could really beat dorian and be mr. olympia.. ray, kevin, and even flex were never taken seriously when it came to dethroning yates!!..
So that's all Shawn and Kevin had on Nasser? they ended their careers on a high note? ::) how about the fact that they both routinely beat him? or they both had better physiques? the one thing Nasser had on both of them was popularity and that's it he appealed to the base fan with lots of size and the act that was a ' nice guy '
and who was thinking after the 1995 Mr Olympia Nasser would be able to beat Dorian? LMFAO this is where you really start to believe your own B.S. if anything after that contest people realized NO ONE could beat him especially after that contest. people were excited someone could compete with Dorian on size and Nasser feel for it and tried to compete bigger & bigger and guess where it landed him? no where. Anyone with a clear head could see Nasser couldn't compare to Dorian , he was lucky to beat Shawn & Kevin nevermind Dorian.
There was only one legitimate threat to Dorian Yates and that was Flex Wheeler , Dorian always said he is the one guy that could give him ' trouble ' as we all know how that turned out. It's the constant need to make Nasser out to be more that what he was that makes me laugh , hey you're from Egypt he's half Egyptian both interested in an obscure sport it's only natural for you want him to be right there but in reality he wasn't , no matter how much hemming and hawing Team Nasser does it doesn't change the fact that he wasn't in Dorian's league which was the A tier or as much as in Kevin's or Flex which was B tier he was relegated to the 3rd tier but hey he did pretty good for himself with all things considered but lets not try and rewrite history. ;)
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I didn't change the topic I broadened it to show you the big picture and where Nasser fit in compared against two guys that were routinely better bodybuilders. I gave you a prime example 1996 Mr Olympia Nasser was on and so was Shawn Ray where did Nasser finish? behind Shawn because he wasn't good enough to beat a 205lb bodybuilder , same with Nasser and Kevin in 1995 who beat who when both were on? Kevin as usual.
If Kevin and Shawn were on and so was Nasser he was going to lose , period. why? he's not in their league period. the best of the 90s was Dorian bar none he was the top of the heap , then Flex. Flex if he was on ( and even if he wasn't ) could beat anyone , then Kevin and Shawn and then further down the rung is Nasser , this is a fact of life. You people always try and rewrite history and act like Nasser was something more than he was which was a B tier pro who even when he was at his best still would get beat by better guys.
As long as you guys keep trying to fluff up Nasser's accomplishments I'll keep beating you over the head with facts.
Not too surprising that Team gasser continues to get brutally owned whenever they try to "fluff" their mancrush on getbig.
I guess facts and logic continue to elude them when they have their delusional noses stuck up Nasser's asscrack.
The delusional man with glasses needs to get a new PR team because the current team can't even muster up a decent defense.
Whatever happened to that Levrone vs Nasser thread? The poor fools got torn apart in that exchange and left to whimper in the darkness. Based on the direction of this thread is headed - history is about to repeat itself. :D
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Parker is obviously biased towards the black bodybuilder, which makes his opinion inadmissible.
Bigbobs and Sherif and the swami are obviously biased toward the Arab bber, so wouldn't that make their opinion inadmissible?
Fact is, Nasser is not as good as Flex and company, who yes, happen to be black. They have better symmetry, shape, and look better to the general public...
The only people who deny this are the ones that want their one Arab mancrush to be in that rarified realm.
Funny how none of these men mention Sammir Bannout or Mohammed M. in their arguments about Arab or middle eastern bbers.