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Title: Picking your Champions
Post by: ckanyon99 on February 23, 2011, 10:19:28 PM
Out of everyone ever in pro-wrestling who would you guys picks to be your champions. World, IC, Tag, and Womans Title.

World Champ - Bruno Sammartino
-longest reigning champions in history-

IC Champ - Arn Anderson
-I think one of the best guys never to hold World Title-

Tag Champs - Road Warriors Hawk & Animal
-Many say the best tag team in history-

Womans Champ - Trish Stratus
-People say the best womans in 20 years. How can you go wrong-


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 24, 2011, 05:12:00 AM
World ---- Ric Flair
IC ---- Me as the 4th Horseman
World Tag-team --- Arn and Tully


 ;D


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on February 24, 2011, 05:15:25 AM
World Champion = Ric Flair
IC Champion = Randy Savage
United States Champion = Ricky Steamboat
Tag Champs = Road Warriors


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 24, 2011, 05:58:32 AM
World Champion = Ric Flair
IC Champion = Randy Savage
United States Champion = Ricky Steamboat
Tag Champs = Road Warriors


I agree on all of these..... great choices.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on February 24, 2011, 06:51:20 AM
I agree on all of these..... great choices.
Flair especially is a perfect example of a World Champion. He went to WCCW, GCW, Japan, etc, etc, etc all over the world wrestling 7 days a week against that territory's top dog defending his title successfully. Even Hogan didn't do that. Thus Flair being my choice.

Arn & Tully where a hairline away being my second choice as tag champs.

Barry Windham was a close call for the US title for me as well.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 24, 2011, 07:12:06 AM
Flair especially is a perfect example of a World Champion. He went to WCCW, GCW, Japan, etc, etc, etc all over the world wrestling 7 days a week against that territory's top dog defending his title successfully. Even Hogan didn't do that. Thus Flair being my choice.

Arn & Tully where a hairline away being my second choice as tag champs.

Barry Windham was a close call for the US title for me as well.

I loved Windham, but I would probably give the 2nd place nod to Greg Valentine.  He was WAY over in mid-atlantic when I was a kid and always involved in the US title picture.

Arn and Tully are always forgotten in TT discussions these days.  I saw them wrestle the RnR express a few times and both of those teams could flat-out put on a show.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on February 24, 2011, 07:14:28 AM
I loved Windham, but I would probably give the 2nd place nod to Greg Valentine.  He was WAY over in mid-atlantic when I was a kid and always involved in the US title picture.

Arn and Tully are always forgotten in TT discussions these days.  I saw them wrestle the RnR express a few times and both of those teams could flat-out put on a show.
Ahhhh...I forgot about Valentine. I think his wrestling ability is grossly overlooked. Magnum T.A is another choice for the United States title.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 24, 2011, 07:21:13 AM
Ahhhh...I forgot about Valentine. I think his wrestling ability is grossly overlooked. Magnum T.A is another choice for the United States title.

the Magnum vs Nikita series was brilliant booking....  I'd have to put Wahoo in the hunt too.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on February 24, 2011, 07:25:26 AM
the Magnum vs Nikita series was brilliant booking....  I'd have to put Wahoo in the hunt too.
Nikita Koloff....another wrestler I forgot about that was / is totally talented.

Wahoo is a given to anyone watching wrestling in that era. Flair in his DVD is high on Wahoo.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 24, 2011, 07:27:27 AM
Nikita Koloff....another wrestler I forgot about that was / is totally talented.

Wahoo is a given to anyone watching wrestling in that era. Flair in his DVD is high on Wahoo.

Yeah, Flair was very appreciative of Wahoo in his book, too.  He was old-school and a stiff wrestler, but I never read anyone say one negative thing about him....


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on February 24, 2011, 07:28:26 AM
Yeah, Flair was very appreciative of Wahoo in his book, too.  He was old-school and a stiff wrestler, but I never read anyone say one negative thing about him....
Sad shit about Magnum T.A. He was a perfect face for the NWA until that car accident that retired him in late '86.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 24, 2011, 07:29:53 AM
Sad shit about Magnum T.A. He was a perfect face for the NWA until that car accident that retired him in late '86.

TA was primed to be HUGE.  For that time period, he was the perfect face and by all accounts a very professional and great guy.  He is amazing with his attitude now about everything......he should write a book too.....I don't think he has.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on February 24, 2011, 07:32:23 AM
TA was primed to be HUGE.  For that time period, he was the perfect face and by all accounts a very professional and great guy.  He is amazing with his attitude now about everything......he should write a book too.....I don't think he has.
No, I don't believe he has either but he is another wrestler who IMO was drastically under-rated.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 24, 2011, 07:34:48 AM
No, I don't believe he has either but he is another wrestler who IMO was drastically under-rated.


I think of that time period as so exciting because it was right before the corporate side of things took over...JCP and GCW becoming WCW, WWF going totally cartoonish for awhile, etc.....  all those guys really paved the way for the guys now, but I doubt half the guys on the WWE roster can name 10 guys from that period and REALLY know anything about them.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on February 24, 2011, 07:38:34 AM

I think of that time period as so exciting because it was right before the corporate side of things took over...JCP and GCW becoming WCW, WWF going totally cartoonish for awhile, etc.....  all those guys really paved the way for the guys now, but I doubt half the guys on the WWE roster can name 10 guys from that period and REALLY know anything about them.
I agree. But they are all "Tough Enough" winners so they think they know it all.  ::)

Look at the past tough ENough / Diva search winners. Maven, Nidia, Christie Hemme, etc...some that didn't win were called to train in OVW and made it to the big show anyway...are they good? Absolutely not. They stinka nd are mid to low card to dark match wrestlers at best.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Montague on February 24, 2011, 02:22:44 PM
Damn...ALL EXCELLENT choices.

Only one I'd add to the mix is the "Original Rock," Don Muraco.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: ckanyon99 on February 24, 2011, 07:22:37 PM
The 90's WWF

World Champ - Steve Austin
IC Champ - Razor Ramon (Scott Hall)
Tag Champs - New Age Outlaws (Billy Gunn & The Road Dogg)

The 90's WCW

World Champ - Sting
US Champ - Steve Austin
Tag Champs - Harlem Heat  (Booker T & Stevie Ray)

The 80's WWF

World Champ - Hulk Hogan
IC Champ - Randy Savage
Tag Champs - Demolition (Ax & Smash)

The 80's WCW-NWA

World Champ - Ric Flair
US Champ - Barry Windham
Tag Champs - The Rock 'n' Roll Express (Robert Gibson & Ricky Morton)

The 80's AWA

World Champ - Nick Bockwinkel
Tag Champs - Road Warriors (Animal & Hawk)


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 24, 2011, 09:48:06 PM
World Champ - Lou Thesz
IC - Macho Man
U.S - Magnum TA
Tag - Road Warriors
Woman's - Moolah


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: yates fan on February 25, 2011, 04:41:32 AM
world champ-sting or dusty
i.c.champ-razor ramone
tac champos-roadwarriors
o.c.w.champ-sherman tank


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on February 25, 2011, 04:52:08 AM
Damn...ALL EXCELLENT choices.

Only one I'd add to the mix is the "Original Rock," Don Muraco.
I liked him better as "The Magnificent" Muraco. His 1985 gfued with Ricky Steamboat was awesome!


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Montague on February 25, 2011, 05:30:56 AM
I liked him better as "The Magnificent" Muraco. His 1985 gfued with Ricky Steamboat was awesome!


Damn good workers.
Steamboat said he could always count on Muraco to be there for the spots.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 25, 2011, 05:47:57 AM
I really liked the Muraco vs Snuka feud too.   It was Muraco who first actually took the death leap from the top of the cage...


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on February 25, 2011, 06:21:34 AM
I really liked the Muraco vs Snuka feud too.   It was Muraco who first actually took the death leap from the top of the cage...
I remember that too....when Snuka dove off the top of the cage. It was unheard of back then. Some great memories there.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 25, 2011, 06:36:35 AM
I remember that too....when Snuka dove off the top of the cage. It was unheard of back then. Some great memories there.

We had USA network at that time, and they would show some WWF, so I actually got to see it......that was surreal for that time period.  EVERY person in the bldg was on their feet when Snuka climbed to the top.....could barely see him for all the flashbulbs going off when he was standing on top....awesome.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on February 25, 2011, 07:19:59 AM
We had USA network at that time, and they would show some WWF, so I actually got to see it......that was surreal for that time period.  EVERY person in the bldg was on their feet when Snuka climbed to the top.....could barely see him for all the flashbulbs going off when he was standing on top....awesome.
Lol...the good old days of just a spotlight on the ring. No music, no pyro.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 25, 2011, 07:34:20 AM
Lol...the good old days of just a spotlight on the ring. No music, no pyro.

Those old vids have such a better look than the over lighting they use now.....  I actually kinda feel bad for the workers, as it takes away some of their ability to communicate and I think it takes away from the "real" look of the old stuff.  Not to mention the damn cameras practically, and sometimes literally, being in the ring.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on February 25, 2011, 07:40:35 AM
Those old vids have such a better look than the over lighting they use now.....  I actually kinda feel bad for the workers, as it takes away some of their ability to communicate and I think it takes away from the "real" look of the old stuff.  Not to mention the damn cameras practically, and sometimes literally, being in the ring.
There's always a cameraman standing on the ring apron now...not to mention the twenty japanese photographers at ringside during a big WM event.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 25, 2011, 12:11:22 PM
Those old vids have such a better look than the over lighting they use now.....  I actually kinda feel bad for the workers, as it takes away some of their ability to communicate and I think it takes away from the "real" look of the old stuff.  Not to mention the damn cameras practically, and sometimes literally, being in the ring.

What's gone too far is playing music for a run-in. I know, in this era, it's silly to think in terms of logic, but, how would the audio guy know in advance?

"Hey Mr. Audio Guy, my buddy is getting his ass kicked in the ring. I'm about to go in and save him. Could you get my music ready?"


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 25, 2011, 12:17:01 PM
What's gone too far is playing music for a run-in. I know, in this era, it's silly to think in terms of logic, but, how would the audio guy know in advance?

"Hey Mr. Audio Guy, my buddy is getting his ass kicked in the ring. I'm about to go in and save him. Could you get my music ready?"

haha, Lizzy me and a buddy have had that conversation before.....too funny.  And during the "backstage" or outside vignettes, I can remember the Horsemen using a "camera man" when they roughed up Dusty in a parking lot.  At least they tried, now they make it virtually impossible to suspend belief for a couple of hours.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: OLE BIG on February 25, 2011, 12:55:26 PM
haha, Lizzy me and a buddy have had that conversation before.....too funny.  And during the "backstage" or outside vignettes, I can remember the Horsemen using a "camera man" when they roughed up Dusty in a parking lot.  At least they tried, now they make it virtually impossible to suspend belief for a couple of hours.

In the old days, I would figure out who was doing the run in before Bob Caudill.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 25, 2011, 12:59:14 PM
In the old days, I would figure out who was doing the run in before Bob Caudill.

haha, Bob was too drunk to know what was happening and that was before you started drinking.....I think.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on February 25, 2011, 01:19:42 PM
haha, Lizzy me and a buddy have had that conversation before.....too funny.  And during the "backstage" or outside vignettes, I can remember the Horsemen using a "camera man" when they roughed up Dusty in a parking lot.  At least they tried, now they make it virtually impossible to suspend belief for a couple of hours.
Apparently after that incident, people wanted the horsemen arrested for real. Thats how big of a face and people person Dusty was.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: ckanyon99 on February 25, 2011, 02:44:24 PM
o.c.w.champ-sherman tank

Champion of what pie eating


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Montague on February 25, 2011, 03:08:19 PM
Apparently after that incident, people wanted the horsemen arrested for real. Thats how big of a face and people person Dusty was.


I'd have wanted them arrested, too...


...for not finishing the job!


Dusssty represssentin' the "common man..." provided that obese, albino, bleached afro with tits & raccoon eyes was how most men looked in that territory.
 :)


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: OLE BIG on February 25, 2011, 04:49:46 PM
Apparently after that incident, people wanted the horsemen arrested for real. Thats how big of a face and people person Dusty was.

I can verify this.  Some were my family members. ;D


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: ckanyon99 on February 25, 2011, 07:18:41 PM
world champ-sting or dusty
i.c.champ-razor ramone
tac champos-roadwarriors
o.c.w.champ-sherman tank

This is sherman tank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ5oIyjiDpo


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: yates fan on March 01, 2011, 02:08:08 PM
i guess you are like billy the kid,not shy at all.posting pics of the tank.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on March 02, 2011, 05:17:45 AM

I'd have wanted them arrested, too...


...for not finishing the job!


Dusssty represssentin' the "common man..." provided that obese, albino, bleached afro with tits & raccoon eyes was how most men looked in that territory.
 :)
"For every man, woman & child....every race, creed & color....I've dined with many kings & queens, but I also ate a lot of pork & beans...I am the American dream." Lol....


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: The Showstoppa on March 02, 2011, 05:27:08 AM
I remember and old promo that the Horsemen cut on Dusty, think it was Arn or Tully, talking about all the men of Austin knew the color of Dusty's moms bedroom....hahaha.....it was subtle and so funny.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on March 02, 2011, 06:14:18 AM
I remember and old promo that the Horsemen cut on Dusty, think it was Arn or Tully, talking about all the men of Austin knew the color of Dusty's moms bedroom....hahaha.....it was subtle and so funny.
Lol...


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: yates fan on March 02, 2011, 05:14:19 PM
i was watching a dvd on dusty the other day,he did have the best promos.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: ckanyon99 on March 03, 2011, 12:44:47 AM
You guy consider Ric Flair one of the best talkers of all time. I think from early 80's in NWA to 91-92 when he left the NWA-WCW to go to WWF personaly I think there was not one better.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on March 03, 2011, 10:51:23 AM
You guy consider Ric Flair one of the best talkers of all time. I think from early 80's in NWA to 91-92 when he left the NWA-WCW to go to WWF personaly I think there was not one better.
There still is no one better.  ;)


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: yates fan on March 03, 2011, 02:05:12 PM
flair was great,but two that were better,stardust himself the american dream and superstar billy graham.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: ckanyon99 on March 03, 2011, 06:37:34 PM
My best talkers in wrestling

Ric Flair
Bobby Heenan
The Rock
Capt Lou Albano
Michael Hayes
Eddie Gilbert
Chris Jericho
Jesse Ventura
Terry Funk
Paul E Dangerously
Jake Roberts
Rick Rude
Arn Anderson
Magnum T.A.


Title: Re: Picking your Champions
Post by: Playboy on March 04, 2011, 04:53:47 AM
My best talkers in wrestling

Ric Flair
Bobby Heenan
The Rock
Capt Lou Albano
Michael Hayes
Eddie Gilbert
Chris Jericho
Jesse Ventura
Terry Funk
Paul E Dangerously
Jake Roberts
Rick Rude
Arn Anderson
Magnum T.A.
Very good list here.