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Title: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 07, 2011, 05:13:06 AM
Allright fellas, I will follow a 3 phase plan and detail it here with commentary and photo proof of my acomplishments or lack thereof. The 1st phase will be a get lean phase with the goal being sub-7, and during this phase I will attempt to drop 2% bodyfat per week. At the moment, I would guesstimate that I'm around 13 to 14%. The 2nd phase will be a "spot gain" phase as I will attempt to gain size in my arms and calves, while maintaining my torso and legs, and all the while staying relatively lean (sub-10). The 3rd and final phase will be a Refinement phase, and during this phase I wilk attempt to give the muscles a finished and refined look, with as much seperation and detail as possible. Later on this week I will start up this project by posting my starting ab photos, and I will then update this 1st phase each and every week. This 1st phase will be finished within 4 weeks.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 07, 2011, 06:11:33 AM
Allright fellas, I will follow a 3 phase plan and detail it here with commentary and photo proof of my acomplishments or lack thereof. The 1st phase will be a get lean phase with the goal being sub-7, and during this phase I will attempt to drop 2% bodyfat per week. At the moment, I would guesstimate that I'm around 13 to 14%. The 2nd phase will be a "spot gain" phase as I will attempt to gain size in my arms and calves, while maintaining my torso and legs, and all the while staying relatively lean (sub-10). The 3rd and final phase will be a Refinement phase, and during this phase I wilk attempt to give the muscles a finished and refined look, with as much seperation and detail as possible. Later on this week I will start up this project by posting my starting ab photos, and I will then update this 1st phase each and every week. This 1st phase will be finished within 4 weeks.
2% loss a week first phase is quite a bit how will you achieve this could result in muscle loss are you willing to give up muscle to lose fat?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 07, 2011, 07:46:59 AM
Good question Mr N, and quite honestly I really don't think that I will lose that much muscle during Phase 1, since it will only last 4 weeks tops. Also, even if I do lose a bit of muscle I will gain it back very quickly, as this has been my experience multiple times in the past. Phase 1 and Phase 3 will be quite easy for me since I know exactly what to do and how to do it. Stage 2 is the one that will be a true learning experience for me, coz even though I've experienced "spot gains" in the past, I don't have as much experience with it as I have with the other 2 phases.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on March 07, 2011, 08:53:17 AM
Translation.

1st phase. Ephedrine, t3, clen, dnp, coke.

2nd phase. Spot injections, synthol.

3rd phase. tren, eq, masteron, halo.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 10, 2011, 06:54:27 AM
Ok, so here are the starting ab shots. I would guesstimate that Im sitting at about 13-14% here. My waist measured 84 cm, which is roughly 33 inches, and my bodyweight is 76.6 kg, which is roughly 168 pounds.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on March 10, 2011, 08:12:57 AM
Ok, so here are the starting ab shots. I would guesstimate that Im sitting at about 13-14% here. My waist measured 84 cm, which is roughly 33 inches, and my bodyweight is 76.6 kg, which is roughly 168 pounds.
Not trying to insult you but thats not "13-14%" bf.  ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 10, 2011, 12:24:41 PM
You don't insult me man ;) So what would you put my % at? Remember the key isn't the starting point, it's the finishing point ;D Also if I really am fatter than 13-14% then it is kinda good news in a way, coz since my waist is currently 33 inches, then it has the potential to be even smaller than I imagined it would be once I hit sub-7 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 10, 2011, 02:36:11 PM
Maybe coffee and cigarettes are in order?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on March 11, 2011, 03:38:35 AM
You don't insult me man ;) So what would you put my % at? Remember the key isn't the starting point, it's the finishing point ;D Also if I really am fatter than 13-14% then it is kinda good news in a way, coz since my waist is currently 33 inches, then it has the potential to be even smaller than I imagined it would be once I hit sub-7 8)
Did you push your belly out in those pics?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 11, 2011, 04:05:36 AM
Yeah man, I did push it out a bit. So mabye the front and the rear shots could give a more true idea of my level of bodyfat, being as the side shots are a little bit staged, also I had a pretty huge meal a few hours before I took these photos. But the rear shot is certainly not staged at all, and the front shot is genuine as well. So maybe just use the front and rear shots for the estimation.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: 225for70 on March 11, 2011, 06:12:55 PM
No disrespect, However, i don't think you can hit sub 7 by the end of March/April or whatever date you said before...


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 12, 2011, 03:38:15 AM
Don't worry 225, you don't disrespect me with that statement man, my claim is that I can do it within 4 week, basically by mid-April. I will post a 1 week update pick this coming Thursday. Yeah, I know that I look like a complete and bloated fat toad, but I'm really curious how much of it is bloat (holding excess water) and actual fat. I've had a few fellas here put me at 13-15%. So far I haven't even done any hard aerobic training yet, I've just been following the cycle diet protocol. The orginal plan was to do 2 hard 30 min daily aerobic sessions on my low cal days, but I haven't added them yet. Also I did a little experiment in Jan with this cycle diet, and I found that I could handle 3 or 4 days of ultra low cals, but I think that I may end up seeing if I can push it further, say 5 or 6 days.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on March 12, 2011, 07:24:54 AM
Don't worry 225, you don't disrespect me with that statement man, my claim is that I can do it within 4 week, basically by mid-April. I will post a 1 week update pick this coming Thursday. Yeah, I know that I look like a complete and bloated fat toad, but I'm really curious how much of it is bloat (holding excess water) and actual fat. I've had a few fellas here put me at 13-15%. So far I haven't even done any hard aerobic training yet, I've just been following the cycle diet protocol. The orginal plan was to do 2 hard 30 min daily aerobic sessions on my low cal days, but I haven't added them yet. Also I did a little experiment in Jan with this cycle diet, and I found that I could handle 3 or 4 days of ultra low cals, but I think that I may end up seeing if I can push it further, say 5 or 6 days.
If thats 13-14% then i must be 6%.  ;D ;D

Anyway, good luck man.  8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 13, 2011, 12:36:30 PM
A mini update: On Thursday, Friday, and Saturday until 10pm I did a mini lo cal cycle without doing any hard aerobic training, but I noticed that I didn't get as much of a dramatic effect as I did when I ran a very short mini 4 day cycle back in January with 2 added 30 minute hard aerobic sessions per day, so this tells me that hard aerobic sessions are a must. So now I will add at least one hard aerobic session each day, and maybe bump it up to 2 daily sessions. Also, I will see if I can handle 5 and a half days of ultra lo cals, rather than the 3 and a half days that I had planned/projected. This will certainly be a learning experience, and don't worry, coz unlike fatpanda I will actually follow through wit ma proposed project ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 16, 2011, 06:23:28 AM
Post a full body shot...With face and date included.

I think you are full of shit


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 16, 2011, 07:17:00 AM
I ain't gonna post any full body shots til I'm sitting at sub-7, but I can prove that it and I am legit. So therefore I have a black hat, a green hat, and a blue hat, so pick a color and I will attach whichever color of hat is choosen to my belt loop to prove that this is current and it's legit. Take it or leave it.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: johnnynoname on March 16, 2011, 05:11:53 PM
i hate this fucking gimmick


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 16, 2011, 05:20:13 PM
Then why don't you accept a challange with me and the loser will delate his account? Either man up or STFU ;*


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 17, 2011, 06:27:38 AM
Ok, here is ma 1 week progress report. Ma waist is down a little over 1 inch, from 84 cm to 81cm (from 33 inches to a tad under 32 inches), and ma weight is down bout 8 pounds, from 76.6 kg to 73.2 kg (from 169 to 161)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 17, 2011, 06:37:40 AM
Good progress no doubt keep it up you looking maybe 11-12%. You still in phase one how many days on the 700 cals now?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 17, 2011, 01:05:34 PM
Thanks man, I'm into ma 4th day at 700 cals and I'm not no zombie just yet ;) I will see if I can handle 5 and a half days ultra lo cals, and then 1 and a half days normal cals, and dat will equal out to a full week cycle. P.S. I WILL be sitting @ sub-7 within 4 weeks time, and probably even sooner FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 17, 2011, 03:10:52 PM
i hate this fucking gimmick

X2......he's a creepy douche. My least favorite poster by a mile.

The type of person who you would actually say "Jesus Christ....will you shut the fuck up already ?" to in real life, if you knew them


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on March 18, 2011, 02:56:05 AM
Ok, here is ma 1 week progress report. Ma waist is down a little over 1 inch, from 84 cm to 81cm (from 33 inches to a tad under 32 inches), and ma weight is down bout 8 pounds, from 76.6 kg to 73.2 kg (from 169 to 161)
Keep it up.  8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 18, 2011, 03:16:30 AM
Thanks mezo ma man ;D I plan on doing bout da same as I did last week, which was hittin da majority of ma days in ultra lo cal style, and running a few times a week. But there's a chance dat I may really turn up da heat and go full bore wit da hard aerobic sessions, and if I do dat then LOOK OUT 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: lovemonkey on March 18, 2011, 04:30:10 PM
Good progress no doubt keep it up you looking maybe 11-12%. You still in phase one how many days on the 700 cals now?

If that's 11-12% then I'm fuckin Flex Wheeler being measured by Jim Quinn.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: mass 04 on March 19, 2011, 06:34:04 AM
eeeewwwwww


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: el numero uno on March 21, 2011, 07:39:40 AM
Why you only post pics of your belly? ::) Post a full body shot


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: mass243 on March 22, 2011, 07:56:03 PM
Thanks man, I'm into ma 4th day at 700 cals and I'm not no zombie just yet ;) I will see if I can handle 5 and a half days ultra lo cals, and then 1 and a half days normal cals, and dat will equal out to a full week cycle. P.S. I WILL be sitting @ sub-7 within 4 weeks time, and probably even sooner FACT

WHUT?
700 calories per meal day? That's fkin' cruel, man  :o
Props if you can handle that.

Lucky thing is, you don't have much muscle to maintain so you can do rapid weight loss without a worry  ;)



Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on March 22, 2011, 08:04:52 PM
Not trying to insult you but thats not "13-14%" bf.  ;D

You are so right about that. I believe I have about 13% bodyfat and my abs look a lot tighter than his. So either he's wrong or I am. If the latter is true than I am going to start boasting about having 8% bodyfat. Also my waist is 34" which appears smaller than his.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 23, 2011, 04:29:54 AM
I hear ya Prime, but the thing is I'm a very slim guy, a nice way to say not carrying much muscle ;D Anyways, guys that don't have much muscle don't appear as lean as they are when they are sitting in the 9 to 15% range of bodyfat FACT And even God (gh15) has mentioned this numerous times. And as far as ma waist looking bigger than 33 inches, well I think it appears so since I have rather narrow hips, which in turn makes the waist appear bigger and wider. Tomorrow will be the 2nd weeks update, so we will see... P.S. I did ZERO hard aerobic training this week, as I only followed my "diet". And there is one think that shocked even me, and that was that I made such good progress doing only 2 hard aerobic bouts during the 1st week. I knew that I could do this, dropping bodyfat very quickly, but I was certain that hard aerobics would be a part of the equation. And yeah I'm eating ma words, coz I kept on sayin TRAINING IS KING, and "DIET" MEANS FUCK ALL lol


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 23, 2011, 04:39:43 AM
In fact I will go on to say dat "diet" is MUCH MORE IMPORTANT for rapid fat-loss than training is, as a few months earlier I was doing consistant hard aerobic training on a regular basis (at least 4 or 5 times a week, which included multiple bouts of HIIT training) and ma body comp didn't change much, but when I switched the focus to "diet" then the results came and came very quickly 8) So in conclusion... Rapid fat loss=consistant ultra low cal intake


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 23, 2011, 05:15:44 AM
In fact I will go on to say dat "diet" is MUCH MORE IMPORTANT for rapid fat-loss than training is, as a few months earlier I was doing consistant hard aerobic training on a regular basis (at least 4 or 5 times a week, which included multiple bouts of HIIT training) and ma body comp didn't change much, but when I switched the focus to "diet" then the results came and came very quickly 8) So in conclusion... Rapid fat loss=consistant ultra low cal intake
Hence "put down the fork"?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 23, 2011, 07:03:16 AM
That, and plenty of coffee and cigarettes, in da true AJ style ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 24, 2011, 07:04:45 AM
Heres the 2nd weeks update. My waist is down almost an inch, from 32 inches (81cm) to a bit over 31 inches (79cm) and my bodyweight is down about 1 pound from 73.2 kg (161) to 72.8 kg (160).


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 24, 2011, 08:04:45 AM
Improvement on fat loss but no doubt but not as much as last week.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 24, 2011, 10:56:07 AM
Yeah man, I agree, just a slight improvement from last week. So this tells me dat I gots to add a daily hard aerobic session or maybe 2 daily hard aerobic sessions. Man dats gonna be BRUTAL on da low cal days, but if dats da price I gots to pay then so be it 8) And I guaran-goddamn-tee dat next week I will make much better progress FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on March 24, 2011, 04:56:51 PM
Why do you push your belly out as far as you can in every pic?  You clearly aren't as fat as you want us to think.  Post full shots if you want people to take you seriously.

Seriously, what kind of sad fool makes a fake weight loss project on getbig.com?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 24, 2011, 05:18:52 PM
Why do you push your belly out as far as you can in every pic?  You clearly aren't as fat as you want us to think.  Post full shots if you want people to take you seriously.

Seriously, what kind of sad fool makes a fake weight loss project on getbig.com?

X2

Also if he stopped talking like a fucking asshole that would help too. Speak English....you sound like a moron.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 24, 2011, 05:25:52 PM
I'm not purposely pushing ma belly out on update pics, I'm just standing completey relaxed, with no attempt to tighten or hold in my belly. But even if you don't buy the side shots, the front shot and the back shot are not altered in any way. Also, I'm gonna admit something here, I'm rather disappointed dat I had rather piss poor results this week, as I clearly didn't drop 2 to 3% so I'm really gonna turn it up this week and drop 2 to 3% for da coming weeks update.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on March 24, 2011, 11:14:25 PM
Noticable improvements there..


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2011, 05:18:50 AM
Thanks meso ma man ;D But I just ain't satisfied with the minimal progress (at least in my mind) of the past week, so I'm really gonna turn it up a notch dis week 8) Basically, I'm gonna add a HARD 20 min RUN each night, also I'm thinking bout during a 4 day cal cycle, with 3 day ultra lo cal followed by 1 day normal cal. Last week I did 5 days in a row of ultra low cals, from Sunday til Thursday, but da low cals really start to get brutal by even the 2nd day, and by the 3rd day I am in Zombie land lol


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2011, 05:07:13 PM
A little update/adjustment: after talking wit a respected member here on this site I've decided to make a few adjustments to the Phase 1 protocol. Firstly I will lower the cal intake from 700 cals to 500 cals on ma low cal days. Also I will follow a 4 day "diet cycle" with 3 days of ultra low cals followed by 1 day of near normal cals (basically I will eat a pizza dinner every 4th day). And lastly, I will run 3 days in a row and take the 4th day off, which will be the last day of the low cal cycle. And if I ain't sitting at sub-10 come next Thursday then I will make even further adjustments ;D Remember, I said dat I will be sitting at sub-7 within 4 weeks time, and I will do so FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 25, 2011, 06:00:45 PM
A little update/adjustment: after talking wit a respected member here on this site I've decided to make a few adjustments to the Phase 1 protocol. Firstly I will lower the cal intake from 700 cals to 500 cals on ma low cal days. Also I will follow a 4 day "diet cycle" with 3 days of ultra low cals followed by 1 day of near normal cals (basically I will eat a pizza dinner every 4th day). And lastly, I will run 3 days in a row and take the 4th day off, which will be the last day of the low cal cycle. And if I ain't sitting at sub-10 come next Thursday then I will make even further adjustments ;D Remember, I said dat I will be sitting at sub-7 within 4 weeks time, and I will do so FACT
Brutal man 500 a day to get where you want to be in yout time window necessary but muscle size will suffer.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on March 26, 2011, 10:36:57 PM
A little update/adjustment: after talking wit a respected member here on this site I've decided to make a few adjustments to the Phase 1 protocol. Firstly I will lower the cal intake from 700 cals to 500 cals on ma low cal days. Also I will follow a 4 day "diet cycle" with 3 days of ultra low cals followed by 1 day of near normal cals (basically I will eat a pizza dinner every 4th day). And lastly, I will run 3 days in a row and take the 4th day off, which will be the last day of the low cal cycle. And if I ain't sitting at sub-10 come next Thursday then I will make even further adjustments ;D Remember, I said dat I will be sitting at sub-7 within 4 weeks time, and I will do so FACT
How do you feel on low cal days? it must be hard.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 27, 2011, 05:40:43 AM
Today is the 2nd day in the ultra low 500 cal day, and yeah man, it is quite fucking BRUTAL! I gots some kinda tingling and numbness in ma arms and delts, and it's quite obvious that it's from near zero cals. It's still pretty goddamn cold here, last nite it was 25 F or -3 C, and dats a bit too cold for running pour moi, so I did Tabata style lunges, 2 times through per workout twice per day. 1st session was in da afternoon, and da 2nd session was at nite, and I will do da same thing today. P.S. It wasn't true Tabata, coz I didn't pass out at da end of da cycle ;D But I pushed maself pretty damn good 8) P.P.S. This 500 cals is coming from only one meal.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on March 27, 2011, 06:43:50 AM
Today is the 2nd day in the ultra low 500 cal day, and yeah man, it is quite fucking BRUTAL! I gots some kinda tingling and numbness in ma arms and delts, and it's quite obvious that it's from near zero cals. It's still pretty goddamn cold here, last nite it was 25 F or -3 C, and dats a bit too cold for running pour moi, so I did Tabata style lunges, 2 times through per workout twice per day. 1st session was in da afternoon, and da 2nd session was at nite, and I will do da same thing today. P.S. It wasn't true Tabata, coz I didn't pass out at da end of da cycle ;D But I pushed maself pretty damn good 8) P.P.S. This 500 cals is coming from only one meal.
Healthy fucker right there.  ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 27, 2011, 12:23:53 PM
Today is the 2nd day in the ultra low 500 cal day, and yeah man, it is quite fucking BRUTAL! I gots some kinda tingling and numbness in ma arms and delts, and it's quite obvious that it's from near zero cals. It's still pretty goddamn cold here, last nite it was 25 F or -3 C, and dats a bit too cold for running pour moi, so I did Tabata style lunges, 2 times through per workout twice per day. 1st session was in da afternoon, and da 2nd session was at nite, and I will do da same thing today. P.S. It wasn't true Tabata, coz I didn't pass out at da end of da cycle ;D But I pushed maself pretty damn good 8) P.P.S. This 500 cals is coming from only one meal.
500 cals a day is brutal especially in the cold the body tends to want more calories in cold weather so maybe you make it through another day of 500 then you gonna wanna eat everything in sight. Would it be best to settle on maybe -1500 daily pending your current weight.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on March 27, 2011, 11:31:50 PM
I hear ya Prime, but the thing is I'm a very slim guy, a nice way to say not carrying much muscle ;D Anyways, guys that don't have much muscle don't appear as lean as they are when they are sitting in the 9 to 15% range of bodyfat FACT And even God (gh15) has mentioned this numerous times. And as far as ma waist looking bigger than 33 inches, well I think it appears so since I have rather narrow hips, which in turn makes the waist appear bigger and wider. Tomorrow will be the 2nd weeks update, so we will see... P.S. I did ZERO hard aerobic training this week, as I only followed my "diet". And there is one think that shocked even me, and that was that I made such good progress doing only 2 hard aerobic bouts during the 1st week. I knew that I could do this, dropping bodyfat very quickly, but I was certain that hard aerobics would be a part of the equation. And yeah I'm eating ma words, coz I kept on sayin TRAINING IS KING, and "DIET" MEANS FUCK ALL lol

Eat your words is right. It isn't which is king in order to get into decent shape you must follow a healthy diet and exercise program. While cardio may burn fat, so does weight training. The advantage of weight training is that along with a good diet and rest, it builds muscle and muscle burns fat. Buddy, you have to do it all if you want to be successful. Also, you can't successfully get and stay lean and mean in a few weeks. It takes a lifetime.

You might try holding your stomach in. Not just when you pose for these photos, but all the time. It actually tightens your core/abs and improves your posture. A great and easy ab exercise is, while driving your car, try to suck your stomach in so far that it feels like it is gonna touch your back and then hold it for a ten count. Another one is to get down on the floor on your hands and knees and suck your stomach up to your back and hold it for a ten count.

By cutting your caloric intake so much, your body goes into starvation mode and your metabolism tanks. You can't lose weight doing this in the long run....it just doesn't work. There are people who "eat like horses," have a really fast metabolism and are lean and fit.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 28, 2011, 05:46:24 AM
You make some very good points Prime. Yeah, this kinda "diet" ain't so healthy and you will stall on it eventually. And that's exactly why I want to get it over with right quick. But, it is possible to strip away fat right quick, and that's exactly what I'm showing. And yes, I WILL stay lean, coz again from my previous experience, it is VERY EASY to stay lean once you get there. It's just that it's a real pain in the ass is getting there lol


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on March 28, 2011, 08:35:00 AM
So lets get this straight, lol. In a few weeks you will have abs, veins and such showing?  ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 28, 2011, 09:28:26 AM
I'm not sure about veins, coz I never was a vascular guy, nor do I want to be. But yes, YOU WILL SEE ABS IN UNDER 2 WEEKS ;D I will be sitting @ sub-10 or even less by this coming Thursday, and by the following Thursday I will be sitting @ sub-7 8) And since you seem like a cool dude meso ma man, I will give you da honors as far as me proving dat dis is very real and dat it's happening right now. So please give me a little phrase like "True dat" or "che da man" or something like those small phrases and I will have ma friend print it out wit a magic marker on ma back, just to prove dat dis be fo real ;D So meso ma man, give me some small phrase and I put it on ma back ;) Maybe it could be "You da man" ROFL!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on March 28, 2011, 10:56:24 AM
I'm not sure about veins, coz I never was a vascular guy, nor do I want to be. But yes, YOU WILL SEE ABS IN UNDER 2 WEEKS ;D I will be sitting @ sub-10 or even less by this coming Thursday, and by the following Thursday I will be sitting @ sub-7 8) And since you seem like a cool dude meso ma man, I will give you da honors as far as me proving dat dis is very real and dat it's happening right now. So please give me a little phrase like "True dat" or "che da man" or something like those small phrases and I will have ma friend print it out wit a magic marker on ma back, just to prove dat dis be fo real ;D So meso ma man, give me some small phrase and I put it on ma back ;) Maybe it could be "You da man" ROFL!
ok.  ;D

write. "All coffee and cigarettos" ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 28, 2011, 11:38:07 AM
Allright ma man, I will have him write "All coffee" on ma front and write "and cigs" on ma back ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on March 28, 2011, 11:47:33 AM
Allright ma man, I will have him write "All coffee" on ma front and write "and cigs" on ma back ;D
ok ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 28, 2011, 04:58:16 PM
Allright fellas, I will follow a 3 phase plan and detail it here with commentary and photo proof of my acomplishments or lack thereof. The 1st phase will be a get lean phase with the goal being sub-7, and during this phase I will attempt to drop 2% bodyfat per week. At the moment, I would guesstimate that I'm around 13 to 14%. The 2nd phase will be a "spot gain" phase as I will attempt to gain size in my arms and calves, while maintaining my torso and legs, and all the while staying relatively lean (sub-10). The 3rd and final phase will be a Refinement phase, and during this phase I wilk attempt to give the muscles a finished and refined look, with as much seperation and detail as possible. Later on this week I will start up this project by posting my starting ab photos, and I will then update this 1st phase each and every week. This 1st phase will be finished within 4 weeks.

you have less than ten days. ...you will fail miserably.

cue the bullshit excuses and goalpost changing


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 29, 2011, 03:49:36 PM
Here is a list of some of some of the things I've learnt from Phase 1 thus far: 1. It should not last more than 2 weeks max (I'll still finish out the 4 weeks, but it's MUCH, MUCH BETTER not to take it past 2 weeks). 2. The 1st week can just basically be ultra lo cals, but by the start of the 2nd week hard aerobic training or HITT training becomes a necessity. 3. It's best not to go more than 4 days in a row on ultra lo cals. Next update will be in 2 days.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2011, 04:47:14 AM
Ok, here is the 3rd week update. My weight went down from 72.8kg to 72.3kg, which is a 1 pound loss, and my waist measurement went down 1 cm, from 79 cm to 78 cm, which is about half an inch. So, its clear dat Im stalling a bit. And yeah, I wholly admit dat I failed, but it aint so bad coz I learned some things here, which I stated in the above post. So, now its on to Phase 2, with some minor adjustments, which are as follows:

1. Gain muscle while continuing to lose fat.

2. Gain muscle overall, and not just on my arms (the arm gaining will be transfered to Phase 3).

3. Only train 2 exercises (weighted dips and dumbell squat/deadlift combo lift).

Ill add more later as far as how I will handle Phase 2.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 31, 2011, 06:55:26 AM
Progress no doubt, rotate your arms back further in the double bicep pose this will show the biceps more and back detail.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on March 31, 2011, 08:18:37 AM
Looking leaner man! that shit works.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2011, 09:50:32 AM
Thanks fellas, but for me the past 2 weeks of "results" have been piss-poor, and nearly non-existant! 1 pound lost per week, and only shrinking my waist by a half inch each week? Those "results" suck! Yeah the 1st week was some pretty damn good, but weeks 2 and 3 weren't good enough, but at least I've learned a few things. Phase 2 is gonna be more tricky, and I've pretty much got the weight training aspect of it figured out, but I ain't so sure about the cardio part of it, and the "diet" part of it, but I will consult with a resident expert here, and hopefully come up with a decent "diet" plan.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 31, 2011, 10:06:04 AM
Thanks fellas, but for me the past 2 weeks of "results" have been piss-poor, and nearly non-existant! 1 pound lost per week, and only shrinking my waist by a half inch each week? Those "results" suck! Yeah the 1st week was some pretty damn good, but weeks 2 and 3 weren't good enough, but at least I've learned a few things. Phase 2 is gonna be more tricky, and I've pretty much got the weight training aspect of it figured out, but I ain't so sure about the cardio part of it, and the "diet" part of it, but I will consult with a resident expert here, and hopefully come up with a decent "diet" plan.
So you are cycling cals pretty much 700 a day for 4 days then a cheat day, I think you got to figure out how many cals you doing on the cheat day. See it figures into your overall intake for a week so the cheat day maybe the culprit in the slower fat loss. Nice progress overall though go back and look at your pics from when you started.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on March 31, 2011, 04:02:20 PM
What happened to the comparative side pose with a relaxed gut? Not saying you don't look lean, but let's be more scientific here. From latest the front pose, it would appear you are sucking your stomach in, whereas in the before side pose you said you weren't.

Credit to you for having a sense of humor....coffee and cigs indeed!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 01, 2011, 12:07:24 AM
I took the side pose out coz there was some debate as to it's authenticity. As far as the latest front one I wasn't purposely holding my gut in. Also, I added this back double bi because now I'm stepping into Phase 2, and as I wrote before, I'm changing the proposed protocol for Phase 2. Phase 2's new protocol is to lay down new muscle tissue while continuing to lose bodyfat at the same damn time. I'm only gonna train dips and dumbell deadlifts. I was doing a bit of stiff-leg dumbell deads a few months back, and I just recently was messing around wit bent leg normal-style deads and they pwn da shit out of stiff-leg deads. Not even close! So, if I make decent strength gains in the dips and deads this week then I will post an update pic next week. And yeah, it's pretty damn certain dat I WILL make damn good progress dis week 8) In fact, I'll soon do dis dip/dead workout and I'll give a report.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on April 01, 2011, 12:34:21 AM
Good luck with phase 2 of your plan. It doesn't seem like your doing enough to see complete body results, so I'll be interested in your reports on how it goes in your opinion. What is the eating plan on phase 2?

I know it isn't cool to comment on one's grammar here, but you use of words is very interesting. Please don't take this as criticism. However, reading your posts is almost like reading a foreign language. Do you talk the way you write? Are you aware that nothing classes people more than the way they speak? Maybe you are just trying to be a cool and with it dude, huh?

I should say that I am not into texting much. However, I have wondered with so many folks communicating via text messages and tweets, if this shortcut writing style will eventually change the English language.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 01, 2011, 02:53:08 AM
No, I don't talk like that in real life. It's just ma on-line persona ;D In fact I write poetry, Haikus and romantic verses, and no I don't write them in dat style 8) Believe it or not, many people that read my work tell me I gots some talent, but like my mom says, "So what have you published?" lol My diet will be one day lo cal (round 700) and one day normal (round 2000). Dips were bodyweight plus 55 lbs for 11, and db deads were 60 lbs per hand for 11. The max wt I can put on my bells is 75, but I may be able to get some thinner plates, which would allow me to go up to 115 per bell.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 01, 2011, 09:58:54 AM
Well your " online persona" is a moron....hope this helps.

Furthermore. ..what a fucking joke of a thread this is...you didn't do Jack shit besides suck in your gut and lose a little water weight.

The good thing is now we don't have to listen to your constant babbling about "sub 7%" anymore.......you didn't even come close here.

Looking forward to " Phase 2" where you gain ZERO muscle on to your puny fucking frame using your dumbass methods...this way we don't have to Listen to that nonsense anymore either.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on April 01, 2011, 02:32:01 PM
No, I don't talk like that in real life. It's just ma on-line persona ;D In fact I write poetry, Haikus and romantic verses, and no I don't write them in dat style 8) Believe it or not, many people that read my work tell me I gots some talent, but like my mom says, "So what have you published?" lol My diet will be one day lo cal (round 700) and one day normal (round 2000). Dips were bodyweight plus 55 lbs for 11, and db deads were 60 lbs per hand for 11. The max wt I can put on my bells is 75, but I may be able to get some thinner plates, which would allow me to go up to 115 per bell.

So you workout at home, I gather. I did this for awhile when we lived in a house with a basement which is where I kept the weights. Personally, while convenient, working out at home sucks compared to working out in a gym where there is a lot of equipment to choose from so one doesn't get bored or their muscles become too accustomed to the limited exercises one can do in their garage or basement with home equipment.

Let me say again, your routine seems very limiting. I can't imagine you'll notice any gains doing just a couple of specific exercises. If you are only going to do one ore two exercises, why not do squats and bench presses. Squats are a full body exercise. Bench presses, done correctly will develop a good upper body base to work from as you add new exercises.

I have written stuff using a different voice, it is fun. However, I think it is odd to manufacture a persona for an on-line forum like this. Why not just be yourself. Are you trying to make people like you? Even if they did, it would mean nothing, particularly because they'd dig your fake persona and not the real person. Personally, this seems lame to me. I say just be yourself. If folks like you, great. If they don't, who cares?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 01, 2011, 06:05:42 PM
So you workout at home, I gather. I did this for awhile when we lived in a house with a basement which is where I kept the weights. Personally, while convenient, working out at home sucks compared to working out in a gym where there is a lot of equipment to choose from so one doesn't get bored or their muscles become too accustomed to the limited exercises one can do in their garage or basement with home equipment.

Let me say again, your routine seems very limiting. I can't imagine you'll notice any gains doing just a couple of specific exercises. If you are only going to do one ore two exercises, why not do squats and bench presses. Squats are a full body exercise. Bench presses, done correctly will develop a good upper body base to work from as you add new exercises.

I have written stuff using a different voice, it is fun. However, I think it is odd to manufacture a persona for an on-line forum like this. Why not just be yourself. Are you trying to make people like you? Even if they did, it would mean nothing, particularly because they'd dig your fake persona and not the real person. Personally, this seems lame to me. I say just be yourself. If folks like you, great. If they don't, who cares?

"Even if they did".....

Pwnt


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 02, 2011, 02:41:25 AM
As Mike Mentzer says, "DIPS ARE THE UPPER BODY SQUAT" 8) But in my opinion weighted over hand wide grip pull ups are the upper body squat ;D These db deads I do are basically a squat with bells instead of a barbell, coz I keep me head up, shoulders back, and low back straight. Also I squat down til the bells touch the ground, which puts my knuckles nearly 2 inches within touching the floor, so believe me, it's a fucking great exercise 8) This routine is basically Mentzer's workout A of the consolidated/athletes routine, except I'll be doing it much more often. In fact, I've do the dips again tomorrow. Remember, as long as I train with heavier and heavier training loads, my muscles will get bigger FACT And yes, I WILL be training with greater and greater training loads. In fact, I predict that I'll be dippinp with 100 added pounds within 3 or 4 weeks. And I may have to add wide grip overhand weighted chins.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: _bruce_ on April 02, 2011, 03:09:37 AM
More training - less writing.
The more you speak or write about something the bigger your doubts.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on April 02, 2011, 06:39:05 PM
That is the second-worst workout I have ever seen behind only FatPanda's.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 03, 2011, 03:35:49 AM
Just finished the dips and I did 11 reps with 55 added pounds, and then I did another set with 65 pounds and got 7 reps. So I've added 2 reps since last dip workout which was 2 days ago. Next workout will be on Tuesday and I will be doing both dips and db deads. This Phase here is basically just a demo of what PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD can do 8) P.S. I ain't sayin dat my way is da only way, wot I'm sayin is dat ANY METHOD WHICH ALLOWS PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD TO OCCUR IS WHERE IT'S AT ;D And pour moi, this style works just fine 8) Even though Phase 1 wasn't a complete success, since I didn't hit sub-7, it was still a decent success coz I did in fact get leaner (from a start @ 15% to sub-12) also I know much better what to do next rapid fat loss cycle. Maybe I will add the weighted chins, but I ain't sure yet.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 04, 2011, 11:11:07 AM
Just finished doing the db deads after 72 hrs rest, and they shot up 5 reps, from 11 reps to 16 reps. Yeah I know dat I said dat I wasn't gonna train them til Tuesday, but I guess dat da Wild Horse just couldn't be contained lol 8) And yeah, I will most likely train da dips tomorrow. So far, I'm making progress by training da deads every 72 hrs, and da dips every 48 hrs. P.P.S. Ma final goal is 5'11" @ a buck 65 @ sub-6 Spider-man style, as dat b his own personal stats 8) But who knows, maybe I will opt for following Nighthawks led 5'11" @ a buck 75 @ sub-6, but dat is a far as I will take it ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 04, 2011, 01:24:20 PM
Just finished doing the db deads after 72 hrs rest, and they shot up 5 reps, from 11 reps to 16 reps. Yeah I know dat I said dat I wasn't gonna train them til Tuesday, but I guess dat da Wild Horse just couldn't be contained lol 8) And yeah, I will most likely train da dips tomorrow. So far, I'm making progress by training da deads every 72 hrs, and da dips every 48 hrs. P.P.S. Ma final goal is 5'11" @ a buck 65 @ sub-6 Spider-man style, as dat b his own personal stats 8) But who knows, maybe I will opt for following Nighthawks led 5'11" @ a buck 75 @ sub-6, but dat is a far as I will take it ;D
Are you saying you gonna take the X man and Blackflag ? Good progress.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 04, 2011, 02:17:23 PM
Nah man, che is who I be gunning fo 8) If I can really hit 165 at a true and legit sub-6 then I thinks dat I gots me a chance ;D By the way, I'm tired as fuck today, and I even took a 2 hr nap after my normal 8 to 9 hrs of nightly sleep. Who knows? Maybe it's ma bod telling me let me sleep so dat I can grow as you been overloading ma ass wit dis heavy and hard training ROFL! Remember, I have gained 13 lean pounds within 6 weeks time many different times, so this here is just basically a demonstration of wot I can do. What it all boils down to is can I achieve an all-time best condition. My best LEAN condition was 154 @ a true and legit sub-6 and a FIT condition of 167 @ 8-9%


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 04, 2011, 05:44:25 PM
Nah man, che is who I be gunning fo 8) If I can really hit 165 at a true and legit sub-6 then I thinks dat I gots me a chance ;D By the way, I'm tired as fuck today, and I even took a 2 hr nap after my normal 8 to 9 hrs of nightly sleep. Who knows? Maybe it's ma bod telling me let me sleep so dat I can grow as you been overloading ma ass wit dis heavy and hard training ROFL! Remember, I have gained 13 lean pounds within 6 weeks time many different times, so this here is just basically a demonstration of wot I can do. What it all boils down to is can I achieve an all-time best condition. My best LEAN condition was 154 @ a true and legit sub-6 and a FIT condition of 167 @ 8-9%

Or maybe its just that you SUCK and you are all talk.

Another douche that never shuts the fuck up about what he's "GONNA" do.....but when times up and they didn't do Jack-Shit. .....then the excuses come hard and fast for a few days until it "blows over".

And then they start the whole thing over again. Seriously. ...what's the point of your nonsense?  

You talk about "gaining muscle" as if you actually have any to speak of...LOLOLOL


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Xerxes on April 05, 2011, 07:47:17 AM
Nah man, che is who I be gunning fo 8) If I can really hit 165 at a true and legit sub-6 then I thinks dat I gots me a chance ;D By the way, I'm tired as fuck today, and I even took a 2 hr nap after my normal 8 to 9 hrs of nightly sleep. Who knows? Maybe it's ma bod telling me let me sleep so dat I can grow as you been overloading ma ass wit dis heavy and hard training ROFL! Remember, I have gained 13 lean pounds within 6 weeks time many different times, so this here is just basically a demonstration of wot I can do. What it all boils down to is can I achieve an all-time best condition. My best LEAN condition was 154 @ a true and legit sub-6 and a FIT condition of 167 @ 8-9%

You have to be smoking crack to think you're even close to Che

decent leaning out though

Or maybe its just that you SUCK and you are all talk.

Another douche that never shuts the fuck up about what he's "GONNA" do.....but when times up and they didn't do Jack-Shit. .....then the excuses come hard and fast for a few days until it "blows over".

And then they start the whole thing over again. Seriously. ...what's the point of your nonsense? 

You talk about "gaining muscle" as if you actually have any to speak of...LOLOLOL

ouch


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 05, 2011, 11:58:34 AM
I never said dat I could challange che at da moment man, but I have been quite fit once before, so therefore I can do it once again. I predict by June 1st I'll be looking quite outstanding 8) By da way, I'm betting dat you'll out lean me on April 15th, but there is absolutely no goddamn doubt that I'll be sitting @ sub-6 come June 1st. By the way, I did the dips today but they stayed the same, but I've gots a feeling that it's because I have just trained 3 days in a row. I know from experience that I should never train more than 2 days in a row, and in fact, every other day is most likely even better. Oh well, my crazy drive seems to give me results even in spite of myself lol 


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Xerxes on April 05, 2011, 12:09:52 PM
I never said dat I could challange che at da moment man, but I have been quite fit once before, so therefore I can do it once again. I predict by June 1st I'll be looking quite outstanding 8) By da way, I'm betting dat you'll out lean me on April 15th, but there is absolutely no goddamn doubt that I'll be sitting @ sub-6 come June 1st. By the way, I did the dips today but they stayed the same, but I've gots a feeling that it's because I have just trained 3 days in a row. I know from experience that I should never train more than 2 days in a row, and in fact, every other day is most likely even better. Oh well, my crazy drive seems to give me results even in spite of myself lol  
Yes everyone can challenge when it comes to bodyfat, but Che is like 170 lbs or something @ 6-7% or whatever and is 5cm shorter than you, to be comparable masswise you'd have to weigh 180lbs @ the same bf..

And dont be so sure about me being leaner than you..


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 05, 2011, 05:09:56 PM
I never said dat I could challange che at da moment man, but I have been quite fit once before, so therefore I can do it once again. I predict by June 1st I'll be looking quite outstanding 8) By da way, I'm betting dat you'll out lean me on April 15th, but there is absolutely no goddamn doubt that I'll be sitting @ sub-6 come June 1st. By the way, I did the dips today but they stayed the same, but I've gots a feeling that it's because I have just trained 3 days in a row. I know from experience that I should never train more than 2 days in a row, and in fact, every other day is most likely even better. Oh well, my crazy drive seems to give me results even in spite of myself lol 

you should never train at all...you are wasting your time.

concentrate on your "Poetry" you penis pulling homo


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 05, 2011, 10:37:03 PM
Would you like me to post some of the photos from ma old body art modeling days 8) But maybe I better not, coz then many of the f@ggots here on dis site will have some nice jerking material for themselves ROFL!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 07, 2011, 01:01:19 AM
This week was kind of a recoup/experimentation/transistion week, and now I've got ma game plan in tow. So here be da plan: I'll train every 3 days while following a cycle "diet". Basically, I will carb and cal up da nite before da training session, and then I will follow the training session wit a decent meal. And then, for over 48 hrs I will eat roughly 1400 cals over a 50 some hour period. "You've got to strike when the moment is right without thinking" I hear ya Mr. Waters 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 07, 2011, 11:43:17 PM
Took ma waist measurement this morning, and it's down another cm, to 77 cm, which is almost 30 inches, coz 30 inches=76 cm. So, ma abs are starting to come in quite nicely, and ma waist is getting waspish ;D Once I hit 29 inches or bout 74 cm, then I will be sitting @ sub-7 FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on April 08, 2011, 11:51:27 AM
Where are the pics you fucker.  ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2011, 12:08:53 PM
Sorry meso ma man, but I thought dat Phase 1 was over, but now I guess dat it really isn't, coz I want to try and get down to sub-7 by May 1st, so I'll be sure and post some update pics next week ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2011, 07:10:39 AM
Just finished doing ma db squat/deads after 5 days btw workouts and I added 3 reps from da previous workout. Also, for 2 days before this workout I only had ma 500 cal breakfast those 2 days. So, I'll stick wit dis "cycle diet" of 2 or 3 days ultra lo cals followed by 1 day at normal cals. Also, I will train on the normal cal day, and I will also only train the db squat/dead exercise. Dis should be quite interesting 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2011, 08:10:31 AM
Just finished doing ma db squat/deads after 5 days btw workouts and I added 3 reps from da previous workout. Also, for 2 days before this workout I only had ma 500 cal breakfast those 2 days. So, I'll stick wit dis "cycle diet" of 2 or 3 days ultra lo cals followed by 1 day at normal cals. Also, I will train on the normal cal day, and I will also only train the db squat/dead exercise. Dis should be quite interesting 8)
Good progress, recovery is key for a natural.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2011, 04:45:27 PM
I'm basically at dat point dat I call "limbo-land" which is somewhere btw looking average, and looking outstanding. More exactly, it's when one is sitting @ btw 8% to 12% and as a few smart guys here have commented, once one hits sub-8, then da magic begins 8) Who knows, maybe I'll be sitting @ sub-8 come Thursday, but if not, I guaren-goddamn-tee dat I'll be sitting @ sub-10 come Thursday FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: 225for70 on April 09, 2011, 05:23:35 PM
That is the second-worst workout I have ever seen behind only FatPanda's.

Maybe Dj isn't a believer in high protein...


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2011, 08:27:32 AM
As far as the statements regarding my training routine, well just remember dat I am "anti-establishment" and dat I don't follow, I LEAD 8) Case in point, if I can take ma db squat/dead from their starting point of 60*11 to say 75*25 then I will be noticeably larger overall FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: 225for70 on April 10, 2011, 09:48:54 AM
As far as the statements regarding my training routine, well just remember dat I am "anti-establishment" and dat I don't follow, I LEAD 8) Case in point, if I can take ma db squat/dead from their starting point of 60*11 to say 75*25 then I will be noticeably larger overall FACT

You will weight 128 sub 7..Fact ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2011, 09:47:28 PM
A few fellas here have expressed concern to me about my elimation of any direct upper body exercise, so I would like to address this here and now, so here is a quote from an old powerlifting book dat I gots, "Studies have shown that individuals placed on squat only programs with the elimination of upper body exercise with weights will still find an increase in upper body size and strength despite the lack of direct stimulation. THIS IS THE RESULT OF THE OVERLOAD PRINCIPLE." P.S. That last sentence is of prime importance, so we shall see how dis this goes. P.P.S. This lift that I'm doing is basically a bent knee dead wit db's and it invovles movement around 3 joints (knee, hip, and shoulder). As ma boy Mentzer says, "The deadlift involves the use of more muscle mass than any other single exercise" FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 11, 2011, 03:11:38 AM
As far as the statements regarding my training routine, well just remember dat I am "anti-establishment" and dat I don't follow, I LEAD 8) Case in point, if I can take ma db squat/dead from their starting point of 60*11 to say 75*25 then I will be noticeably larger overall FACT

Dude...you just talk shit.

What exactly are you "leading".......people down the road to skinny-fat twink status? ?

You babble on about your theories and principles as if You are an advanced lifter. ..and then post a pic and it truly looks like you don't even workout


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 11, 2011, 11:58:47 AM
So I've had ZERO results so far??? LOL! Anyone wit an objective eye can clearly see dat I'm NOTICEABLLY LEANER, and no I wasn't sucking ma gut in on any of da front shots. Also, da rear/love handle shot is literally impossible to fake FACT Remember, I don't want to be massive, I want to be pretty :-* I just finished a decent sized carb and cal din-din, and I will hit da db squat/deads tomorrow, so I will give a progress report. "Coz he's a rambler and a gambler and a sweet talking ladies man" Some fine lyrics from Ms. Joni Mitchell singin' bout moi FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 11, 2011, 02:03:39 PM
So I've had ZERO results so far??? LOL! Anyone wit an objective eye can clearly see dat I'm NOTICEABLLY LEANER, and no I wasn't sucking ma gut in on any of da front shots. Also, da rear/love handle shot is literally impossible to fake FACT Remember, I don't want to be massive, I want to be pretty :-* I just finished a decent sized carb and cal din-din, and I will hit da db squat/deads tomorrow, so I will give a progress report. "Coz he's a rambler and a gambler and a sweet talking ladies man" Some fine lyrics from Ms. Joni Mitchell singin' bout moi FACT

Yes you lost some BF. .....you're not sub 10%....and no way in hell are you going to be "sub 7%" in a week or two.

Anyone with an "objective eye" can see you are nowhere near that lean....who are you trying To convince, us or yourself  ;)

Just because you incessantly prattle on about it doesn't make it so.  Get real you douche and stop throwing around ridiculous numbers you aren't even close to.....you come off like an asshole


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2011, 04:38:15 AM
Just finished ma db squat/deads and it was a repeat performance 65*11 so now I'm engaged in private consultation wit a resident expert here on dis board as to how I should procede wit all of dis 8) Remember, dis be a huge learning experience pour moi, and I've already made some pretty startling discoveries which have shocked even me Mr. Anti-Establishment 8) "So it looked like I had to move slowly, like a cat at night through the trees" 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2011, 09:43:42 AM
After futher discussion wit ma adviser, I've decided to go on a 4 day protocol, wit 3 days ultra lo cals, and 1 day normal cals, and then train on dat 4th day. P.S. I ain't goin wit wot ma adviser suggested coz he thought dat I should stay on da 4 day diet cycle, but wit training every other 4th day, which would equal training every 8 days, or roughly once a week. And actually his advice is better, but da problem is, is dat da "Wild Horse" is unleased as soon as I carb and cal up, and then I just can't restrain maself not to train. Oh well, we will see how dis new protocol goes... Anyways, da major goal now is just to get to sub-7 but I was hoping dat I could maybe make some muscle gains in da process. Thursday will be ma update pics wit ma stats included, and this will give a better assesment as to where I be at, coz I'l also include ma waist measurement and ma bodyweight. Yeah, ma waist has shrunk a bit since last time, but I ain't sure bout ma bodyweight, since I haven't stepped on a scale since then. Who knows, maybe I've gained a pound or two 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: w8m8 on April 12, 2011, 09:49:14 AM
I keep wondering how you can write like you do .. especially after you said you were an english teacher  ???

It seems like you'd like to have readers follow your journal .. so why do that ? .. you must know it turns away interest


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2011, 10:39:19 AM
Good point actually, I suppose I do it as a form of rebellion. I hate following orders and doing what I'm told, and I don't want to let others tell me how to be. I suppose that I could write in a romantic lyrical verse style like my other persona does, but I really don't think that it would go over so big here ROFL! Anyways, I'll try and tone it down a bit ;) "She is like a cat in the dark, and then she is the darkness" 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on April 12, 2011, 08:30:00 PM
I'm engaged in private consultation wit a resident expert here on dis board

 ???


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on April 12, 2011, 09:44:09 PM
I keep wondering how you can write like you do .. especially after you said you were an english teacher  ???

It seems like you'd like to have readers follow your journal .. so why do that ? .. you must know it turns away interest

Not only does this fake persona writing style turn away interest, it turns people off because it is insulting. It's one thing to be uneducated or unskilled as a writer and still out there communicating with folks despite this. -Chops to folks who do this. However, it is a whole other thing to talk down to folks because you think it makes you cool or some shit like that. You otta shut the fuck up with dis shit talk.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2011, 04:30:15 AM
My waist is down 2 cm, nearly 1 inch, from 78 cm to 76 cm, which translates to 30 inches. My weight is down 2.2 kg from 72.2 kg to 70 kg, which is roughly a 5 pound loss.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: w8m8 on April 14, 2011, 08:34:51 AM
Is your plan to waste any muscle off your frame and appear as a skeleton covered in skin tissue ?
Having small delts and some biceps with nothing else is not a worthwhile goal  :-\


 
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here is the 3rd week update. My weight went down from 72.8kg to 72.3kg, which is a 1 pound loss, and my waist measurement went down 1 cm, from 79 cm to 78 cm, which is about half an inch.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=368752.0;attach=408202;image)


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My waist is down 2 cm, nearly 1 inch, from 78 cm to 76 cm, which translates to 30 inches. My weight is down 2.2 kg from 72.2 kg to 70 kg, which is roughly a 5 pound loss.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=368752.0;attach=410028;image)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2011, 09:30:13 AM
Good question w8m8, so let me ask you this? How much muscle do you really think that a truly lifetime natural can hold at a very low bodyfat? gh15 says that for a truly lifetime natural at my height of 5'11" the ABSOLUTE BEST that one can hope for is 165 to 170 at a legit 6% and I go with that. Remember, this is just the 1st Phase, which is the get lean phase. The 2nd Phase will be to stay lean, while adding lean muscle tissue without adding fat. Remember, my own personal goal is 165 at a true and legit sub-7 P.S. I've lost 14 pounds so far, and I'd say that roughly 9 of those pounds were fat, and maybe 2 actual lean muscle tissue, which ain't so bad in my book ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: kiwiol on April 14, 2011, 04:48:13 PM
Good question w8m8, so let me ask you this? How much muscle do you really think that a truly lifetime natural can hold at a very low bodyfat?

This was me at my peak - I'm a lifetime natural and I haven't even tried any prohormones

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=252133.msg3558539#msg3558539

There are some guys here who are pretty impressive for naturals - Mr Nobody, mesmorph78, Groink, Che, Ursus, Croatch, Coltrane, Falcon, Alexxx, Bam-bam and others. Some of those guys might have done a cycle or two, but I don't think everyone mentioned has. So don't let anyone tell you what you can and cannot achieve, esp. when they don't know you and are making generalized statements. gh15 knows his drugs, but is very prejudiced just like everyone else and is wrong with his numbers, which are nothing more than rule of thumbs to which there are always exceptions.

Regarding your physique, I think you look lean, but have VERY little muscle and look far from impressive for someone who talks about it non-stop all the time - not trying to insult you. And IMO, being sub7 doesn't mean shit when you weigh around 140 lb. I think if you lift weights, you need to look like you do or you've simply failed.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2011, 05:20:09 PM
This was me at my peak - I'm a lifetime natural and I haven't even tried any prohormones

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=252133.msg3558539#msg3558539

There are some guys here who are pretty impressive for naturals - mesmorph78, Groink, Che, Ursus, Croatch, Coltrane, Falcon, Alexxx, Bam-bam and others. Some of those guys might have done a cycle or two, but I don't think everyone mentioned has. So don't let anyone tell you what you can and cannot achieve, esp. when they don't know you and are making generalized statements. gh15 knows his drugs, but is very prejudiced just like everyone else and is wrong with his numbers, which are nothing more than rule of thumbs to which there are always exceptions.

Regarding your physique, I think you look lean, but have VERY little muscle and look far from impressive for someone who talks about it non-stop all the time - not trying to insult you. And IMO, being sub7 doesn't mean shit when you weigh around 140 lb. I think if you lift weights, you need to look like you do or you've simply failed.
Damn I missed the list.  :'(


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: kiwiol on April 14, 2011, 05:23:37 PM
Damn I missed the list.  :'(

Fixed. I thought you'd juiced before, having competed and all.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2011, 05:47:39 PM
Fixed. I thought you'd juiced before, having competed and all.
Na never did thats why I quit competing couldnt hang with the roid boys.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on April 14, 2011, 06:55:16 PM
Na never did thats why I quit competing couldnt hang with the roid boys.

You have a very good build for a natural.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2011, 06:56:31 PM
You have a very good build for a natural.
Thanks bro.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2011, 03:53:44 AM
Point taken Kiwi, and just because I'm not thickly muscled doesn't mean that "my" ideas, training theories are wrong, maybe I have suckass genetics for muscle size. Anyways, these theroies that I have aren't "mine" they come from AJ, and Mentzer. And regarding these numbers you fellas keep throwing out, well let me just say that most here are clueless about what that's all about. Case in point, I have photos of me AT THE EXACT SAME BODYWEIGHT, a buck 54, which is what I'm at now coincedently. Anyways one photo is me at 154 at a true and legit sub-6 and the other is a photo of me at 154 at 12% and the difference (A VERY DRAMATIC DIEFERENCE) at the same bodyweight. As gh15 says, Zane at a buck 85 wipes the floor with 220 pound bodybuilders. P.S. I had a dream about this shit last nite, and some slim sexyass black female said to me, "You look good, and you're slim enough" and I said to her, "You're wrong gorgeous, 6% is slim enough" and showed her a photo of a dudes abs who was sitting at a legit 6% ROFL! BRUTAL


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Xerxes on April 15, 2011, 04:10:04 AM
Point taken Kiwi, and just because I'm not thickly muscled doesn't mean that "my" ideas, training theories are wrong, maybe I have suckass genetics for muscle size. Anyways, these theroies that I have aren't "mine" they come from AJ, and Mentzer. And regarding these numbers you fellas keep throwing out, well let me just say that most here are clueless about what that's all about. Case in point, I have photos of me AT THE EXACT SAME BODYWEIGHT, a buck 54, which is what I'm at now coincedently. Anyways one photo is me at 154 at a true and legit sub-6 and the other is a photo of me at 154 at 12% and the difference (A VERY DRAMATIC DIEFERENCE) at the same bodyweight. As gh15 says, Zane at a buck 85 wipes the floor with 220 pound bodybuilders. P.S. I had a dream about this shit last nite, and some slim sexyass black female said to me, "You look good, and you're slim enough" and I said to her, "You're wrong gorgeous, 6% is slim enough" and showed her a photo of a dudes abs who was sitting at a legit 6% ROFL! BRUTAL

Gayer than driving a stick shift with your anus.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2011, 04:26:15 AM
I'll give you props kiwi, for you is a pretty thickly muscled dude 8) But, my goal is to be pretty, with slim CAT-LIKE lines, and not too thick :-* Think of a leopard vs. lion or tiger, I'll go with the leopard-like apperance 8) P.S. The second part of my statement wasn't directed at you kiwi, as it was meant for "others" on here ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2011, 07:12:36 AM
 ;)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2011, 07:14:41 AM
P.S. Dat is moi @ 154 @ sub-6  8) I'll see if I can find da pic of me at 154 @ 12% for comparision purposes


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 15, 2011, 07:17:11 AM
;)
Lean and mean. Chest genes no doubt. Looks like a Caucasian with brown hair.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2011, 07:26:26 AM
Try Germanic WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant)  8) And wots kinda cool is dat I think ma arms be looking bigger and better now, than they were then ;D The key will be... Wot happens once I finish Phase 3?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: lovemonkey on April 15, 2011, 07:27:08 AM
;)

What the hell happened between that and the current pics?? You looked great there man.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2011, 07:45:30 AM
Honestly man, it was women :( I let women control me, and my first woman couldn't handle that I looked like that as she was sooo fucking jealous, so I toned it down and got fatter and uglier. Then my second woman wanted ALL OF MY ATTENTION, and I gave it to her. And so on and so on.... And yeah, as they say "love is a two way street" and I'm not the innocent party, as Lord knows I'm quite a handful myself ;) Even now, I'm "seeing" two different females, but both of them have "issues" about my training, hence I'm only seeing them from time to time. Yeah, I'm trying to stay clear of getting too involved with anyone at the moment.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2011, 10:00:19 AM
I've decided to finish out Phase 1 by May 1st, and I'm absolutely certain that I will be sub-7 by then 8) Right now, I'm round 9% and if you dont' think so, well then you are wrong ;) Let me explain a few things to ya here so you can understand what I'm saying. 1st I'm ghostly white, 2nd I did absolutely no water tricks ie. dehydrating, sweating, laxitives, 3rd there are no lighting or angle tricks in these photos. Yep ALL of those things greatly manipulate the situation FACT For example, if I would bronze my skin, take some laxitives, sweat it out and dehydrate myself, darken the room and shift the photo angle then I would look MUCH LEANER then I do in these photos, even though technically I would not be any leaner. Those are all just tricks of da trade ;D So yes indeed, I am at roughly 9% right now FACT 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on April 15, 2011, 11:37:18 AM
Honestly man, it was women :( I let women control me, and my first woman couldn't handle that I looked like that as she was sooo fucking jealous, so I toned it down and got fatter and uglier. Then my second woman wanted ALL OF MY ATTENTION, and I gave it to her. And so on and so on.... And yeah, as they say "love is a two way street" and I'm not the innocent party, as Lord knows I'm quite a handful myself ;) Even now, I'm "seeing" two different females, but both of them have "issues" about my training, hence I'm only seeing them from time to time. Yeah, I'm trying to stay clear of getting too involved with anyone at the moment.

In my many years of observation on the matter of what women want in a man, I would say you have it wrong. Woman are attracted to men they cannot control. Sure, they will try to take control. But if you let them, they eventually lose interest in you. Be a man....that was what the woman was attracted to in the first place. Don't be a "pussy."

Incidentally, thanks for toning down your jive talk. You seem much more believable now. And, you don't risk seeming like you are talking down to folks or mocking them. The little bits of jive talk in your more recent posts is actually funny.....just be careful to keep it "tongue in cheek" so folks know your just having fun.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2011, 11:52:14 AM
Thanks for the input of wisdom prime, coz it's for damn sure that my "wisdom" is SEVERLY LACKING ;) Yeah, I'm pretty intelligent, although many here would beg to differ, but... When it comes to being wise? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I'm WELL BELOW AVERAGE :-[ And as far as controlling women, well I follow Todd Rundgren's creed "It's important to me that you know you are free, coz I never want to make you change for me" My ideal situation is just to have MANY fuck buddies, but the problem with that is that NO FEMALE will put up with that for very long. They may say that it's ok at the beginning, but soon after they ain't having it :'( FUCK!!!!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: kiwiol on April 15, 2011, 11:27:54 PM
;)

You look good there, although it's hilarious to picture the guy in the pic speaking in the silly ebonics style you post in, lol.

Your recent pics don't show you having that much muscle, but I'm guessing you're going to work on that.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2011, 01:01:21 AM
Exactly man, that's what Phase 2 is gonna be all about... Gaining lean muscle tissue while adding ZERO fat 8) As I've said before, on 3 seperate occasions I have added 13 pounds of bodyweight while adding ZERO fat, as my skinfolds stayed at the exact same thickness. In fact, I may start Phase 2 now, as I'm doing a carb and cal up week-end, so we will see. P.S. If I do start Phase 2 now I will have addead AT LEAST 5 POUNDS OF LEAN MUSCLE TISSUE IN 2 WEEKS FACT ;D And you will see dat da spoken word be true when I post ma update pics on around May 1st ;) P.P.S. Guess what I weight in that pic? I weigh 154, exactly what I weigh now. Although in that pic I am sitting @ 6% now I'm sitting @ 9% it looks like a bigger difference because of some of the "tricks of the trade" and the FACT that there is a HUUUGGGEEE difference btw 6% and 9%


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2011, 02:02:27 AM
And kiwi, as far as ma annoying ebonoics goes, I don't "say" those words with an intent of malice, I'm just being silly ;) And when I do pull this in front of ma friends, it's all good, coz they see I'm doing it wit sweetness, similar to ma idol Rollo from Sanford and Son 8) And as Issac Hayes says, "He's a complicated man, but no one understands him like his woman" So in ma case dat first point is right, but da second point??? I don't think dat any woman understands ma complicated ass, although some of them still stay around ROFL! ;D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydv6j9CrPGo


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2011, 05:43:19 AM
Allright, so I've decided to start up Phase 2 now. I will post another back double bi on or before May 1st, and I WILL have added at least 5 pounds of lean muscle by then FACT 8) The vast majority of this muscle will be placed upon ma Delts and Arms ;) Here are the exercises that I will be doing, and the starting perfomance for each exercise:

1. DB Squat/Dead 60*18

2. DB Shrug 60*6

3. DB Concentration Curl 30*8

4. Close-grip Push-up (with weight added on my back) Bodyweight plus 45 pounds for 7

5. DB Overhead Tricep Extension 60*6

6. DB Side Raise 15*8

7. DB Bent-over Lateral Raise 15*6
 
P.S. This will be a PURE DEMONSTATION of just what PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD can do ;D

Remember 2+2 doesn't equal 3 and a half or 4 and three quarters, 2+2=4 ;D Meaning lifting greater and greater loads=bigger and bigger muscles 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2011, 07:01:47 AM
Just been in private consultation wit ma "Expert Advisor" and I may change up dat routine a bit, so hold da phone ;) He's made a statement dat maybe I should focus on Arms and Legs, instead of on Arms and Delts, so we must discuss this a bit further and then if I decide to change up ma routine I will note it here.

"I really should be saying goodnight. I really shouldn't stay anymore. It's been so long since I held ya. I've forgotten what love is for. I  should run. On the double." <--- There's me, well that last part at least ROFL!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: mass 04 on April 16, 2011, 07:02:08 AM
I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that this is the worst thread in the history of internet forums.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 16, 2011, 08:25:00 AM
And kiwi, as far as ma annoying ebonoics goes, I don't "say" those words with an intent of malice, I'm just being silly ;) And when I do pull this in front of ma friends, it's all good, coz they see I'm doing it wit sweetness, similar to ma idol Rollo from Sanford and Son 8) And as Issac Hayes says, "He's a complicated man, but no one understands him like his woman" So in ma case dat first point is right, but da second point??? I don't think dat any woman understands ma complicated ass, although some of them still stay around ROFL! ;D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydv6j9CrPGo

a couple of things...your "persona" is disliked and ridiculed  by just about everyone here...I can't recall one person going to bat for you.

if you have to try and convince people you are being funny.....Guess what, Your'e  not funny.   ;)

If there us one thing Getbig likes it's a funny mofo......no one is laughing.

You carry on about that pic of you from ten years ago so much that I feel as though I should be looking at a picture of Flex Wheeler from the 93 Arnold classic

You look okay there...you are lean with a clean pec line.....but its nothing anyone would go "holy shit" over. You are VERY small there and you admit your legs are pathetic....but you act like you had a world class physique



Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2011, 09:07:15 AM
Allright fair enough, I'll try and get rid of this "persona". And yeah, I'm not saying that I'm outstanding there in that pic from 10 years ago, I basically just put it up so people can see that I did at one time look pretty decent and therefore these things I write aren't complete bullshit. And fuck it man, I'll go even further here. This 5 pounds of lean muscle tissue that I claim that I will add within 2 weeks time may not be on the complete up and up, so let me explain. I've basically been on a starvation diet and therefore my body is ready to get some cals back in it, and these cals will be a bit "forgiving" in the beginning because of my prolonged calorie deprivation. Meaning that they won't be stored as fat so readily, and they will more than likely go towards filling up my calorically deprived muscles. 


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2011, 09:47:29 AM
Allright, so I've decided to start up Phase 2 now. I will post another back double bi on or before May 1st, and I WILL have added at least 5 pounds of lean muscle by then FACT 8) The vast majority of this muscle will be placed upon ma Delts and Arms ;) Here are the exercises that I will be doing, and the starting perfomance for each exercise:

1. DB Squat/Dead 60*18

2. DB Shrug 60*6

3. DB Concentration Curl 30*8

4. Close-grip Push-up (with weight added on my back) Bodyweight plus 45 pounds for 7

5. DB Overhead Tricep Extension 60*6

6. DB Side Raise 15*8

7. DB Bent-over Lateral Raise 15*6
 
P.S. This will be a PURE DEMONSTATION of just what PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD can do ;D

Remember 2+2 doesn't equal 3 and a half or 4 and three quarters, 2+2=4 ;D Meaning lifting greater and greater loads=bigger and bigger muscles 8)
Looks like a Arthur Jones workout.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on April 16, 2011, 10:42:10 AM
And kiwi, as far as ma annoying ebonoics goes, I don't "say" those words with an intent of malice, I'm just being silly ;) And when I do pull this in front of ma friends, it's all good, coz they see I'm doing it wit sweetness, similar to ma idol Rollo from Sanford and Son 8) And as Issac Hayes says, "He's a complicated man, but no one understands him like his woman" So in ma case dat first point is right, but da second point??? I don't think dat any woman understands ma complicated ass, although some of them still stay around ROFL! ;D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydv6j9CrPGo

No doubt, you don't have African American friends. I doubt they would take your verbal mockery as "silly" and "sweetness".


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2011, 10:46:21 AM
Pretty much so Mr N, except AJ would have had some squats in there and a 5-min cig break ;D And speaking of this workout, I've decided to eliminante the DB bent-over Laterals and the DB Shrugs. (I'll worry about my legs later, for now the focus will be on the arms) And so I will just do the following 5 exercises (included is my current weight and my recent PR weights, once again to keep it on the up and up, and come clean with it all)

1. DB Squat/Dead 60*18 (I have no previous PR here, since it is a new exercise for me)

2. DB Con. Curl 30*8 PR: 40*7

3. Close-grip Push-up Bodyweight plus 45 pounds for 7 (And once again no previous PR here as it is another new exercise for me)

4. DB Overhead Tri. Ext. 60*6 PR: 70*7


5. DB Side Raise 22*8 PR: 30*8

So basically I'm about 10 pounds off of my previous PR's on the Extensions, Curls, and Side Raises, and now the goal is to get even stronger and surpass my PR's. Also I'm curious what role if any, these DB Squat/Deads will play within this current routine...


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2011, 01:23:38 PM
You've mis-interpreted what I've said Prime, as I get along with blacks just fine. In fact, I have MUCH MUCH MORE problems with white dudes than with black dudes. Believe me, my "jive talking" is in absolutely no way a jab at black folk. In fact, it's my form of rebellion, and laziness. If I write in prefect English it takes MUCH MORE effort for me, as I have to actually concentrate and try ROFL! When I was at university I had a theroy in practice called "The Minimal Effort Theroy" meaning try the least amount to pass and get my diploma. Which I did, I earned a Bachelors of Arts from The Ohio State University, with a finishing GPA of 2.06  ;D 2.00 is the mimimum GPA required to earn a degree lol And as far as analyzing me, I can clue you in a bit. I'm absolutley terrified of "emotional invovlement" with a woman, and no, it's not only because I'm afraid of being hurt. It's also because I just know that i cannot be the man that they need me to be. I am INCREDIBLY selfish and self-absorbed, and very lazy to boot. So what kind of woman can handle that shit? I'll tell ya, NONE But hey, at least I'm honest, and I don't try to trick and decieve women, like a few other fellas that I know.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 18, 2011, 09:30:22 AM
Quick update: 1. DB Con Curls are up from 30*8 to 35*10

                    2. DB Overhead Tri Ext are up from 60*6 to 65*7

                    3. DB Side Raises are up from 22*8 to 25*10

So, I've basically added 5 pounds on the curls and extensions amd 3 pounds on the side raises, all after only 48 hrs, and of course it's basically due to my eating normal again and filling the muscle glycogen stores. Remember, the KEY will be... Can I surpass my previous PR's? And if yes I do surpass my previous PR's (which I am absolutely certain that I can, and that I will) then my muscles will be larger 8) Remember fellas, this is not rocket science ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4K7XZGeHTE

"Then the lights go out and it's just the three of us...
You me and all that stuff were so scared of"


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 19, 2011, 01:25:46 PM
Upon further review I've decided to have a Delt Day and an Arm Day, and ocassionally do the DB Sqauts/Deads. I'm doing no direct torso work, except for the occassional Close-Grip Push-Up. So here is my workout Protocol:

Day 1 (Delts) 1. DB Front Raise
                   2. DB Side Raise
                   3. DB Bent-Over Raise
                   4. DB Squat/Dead (ocassionally)

Day 2 (Arms) 1. DB Concentration Curl
                   2. DB Overhead Tri Extension
                   3. DB Kickback
                   4. Weighted Close-Grip Push-Up (ocassionally)

Remember, my current goal is "spot gaining" in my Delts and Arms


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57RIlznOpDM

 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 19, 2011, 02:01:44 PM
Paul was cool at once. 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 20, 2011, 03:43:35 AM
Just finsished training ma arms after 48 hours btw sessions, and here are the results:

1. DB Con Curls up to reps from 35*6 to 36*8
2. DB Overhead Tri Ext up from 60*6 to 60*9


P.S. There's me, I'm on da loose baby ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZsMDED2ek


And here is THE KING




Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 20, 2011, 03:47:27 PM
I found a really cool segment from a poem by Master Zane, and I'd like to share it with y'all ;D

"in a perfect body all muscles are brothers
all bodyparts proportionally shout
as every single muscle stands out"

P.S. Take a listen to dis bass line by Mr. Mike Rutherford 8) FUCK YA!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIC9muS2Yuo


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 21, 2011, 02:29:29 AM
Just finished a delt session and there was no progression, so now I've got to modify the training a bit. I'm gonna follow one of these 2 opitons, but I ain't sure which one yet:

1st Option: Train on a 3-day cycle as follows: Delts/Arms/off repeat

2nd Option: Train everything every other day.

I'll probaly choose the 1st Option, since da Wild Horse has gots to be free ;D
Anyways, I will continue to get results FACT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZeTlMpnfHk

"I remember a talk about
North Carolina and a
strange strange pond
You see the sides were like glass
In the thick of a
forest without a road
And if any man's hand
ever made that land
Then I think it would've showed"


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 21, 2011, 02:43:30 AM
Just finished a delt session and there was no progression, so now I've got to modify the training a bit. I'm gonna follow one of these 2 opitons, but I ain't sure which one yet:

1st Option: Train on a 3-day cycle as follows: Delts/Arms/off repeat

2nd Option: Train everything every other day.

I'll probaly choose the 1st Option, since da Wild Horse has gots to be free ;D
Anyways, I will continue to get results FACT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZeTlMpnfHk

"I remember a talk about
North Carolina and a
strange strange pond
You see the sides were like glass
In the thick of a
forest without a road
And if any man's hand
ever made that land
Then I think it would've showed"
Yea I bet you go for option 1.

A damn fine song and quote. I live in North Carolina at 2:00 in the video that is actual footage of the mountains here.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 22, 2011, 09:19:56 AM
My progress has come to a halt, as I haven't increased in weight used or reps performed for the past 2 days. So now I will take tomorrow off and train both Delts and Arms on Sunday. It will have been 48 hrs since the last Arm session, and 72 hrs since the last Delt session. I know for a fact that I can make good and consistant progress training a muscle group every 48 to 72 hrs, if it is within da process of a "growth spurt" ;D My best bet is either to train everything all together every 48 hrs, or to follow this 3 way split: Arms/Delts/off "in a perfect body all muscles are brothers, all bodyparts proportionally shout, as every single muscle stands out" Frank Zane


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 22, 2011, 11:47:44 PM
I was looking through an old Arthur Jones article, and he did a negative-only training experiment on himself and his arms grew a full inch in 12 days, training them every 48 to 72 hrs. Alot of people on here say I'm a HIT guy, but I don't completely agree. I would say that I'm much more of a PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD guy, as to me... PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD IS THE END ALL BE ALL OF EFFECTIVE WEIGHT TRAINING 8)


 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc0XEw4m-3w


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on April 23, 2011, 03:16:55 AM
il semble aller bien Mr. dj181


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 23, 2011, 03:55:10 AM
il semble aller bien Mr. dj181

Oui mon ami, c'est d'accord ;) And now on I'm on to Phase 2 (larger arms and delts) and I will post an update pic on or before May 1st, bientt


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: _bruce_ on April 23, 2011, 07:47:05 AM
You looked great.
Better muscle up or Groink will knock on your door.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 23, 2011, 09:31:16 AM
You looked great.
Better muscle up or Groink will knock on your door.

Thanks man 8) This is basically a demostration and an experiment. The 1st part was a demostration, coz I knew what would happen, even though it wasn't quite as successful as I thought that it would have been. Probably because I basically only "dieted" and didn't really do the hard aerobic training. Anyways, I learned a few useful things though this 1st Phase. This 2nd Phase is also a demostration, but an experiment as well, since I've never really tried to do this "spot gaining" thing before. A few fellas on here say that it isn't really possible to do so, but we shall see...


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 23, 2011, 12:11:13 PM
I've been reading some of AJ's old writing regarding "negative-only" training, and I'm thinking dat maybe I will incorporate this style of training with my DB Concentration Curls, since it would be possible to do it with this particular exercise. We will see...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGXYiIDTPDI

"Time after time I sit and I wait for your call
I know I'm a fool but what can I say.
Whatever the price I'll pay for you, Madame Blue
Once long ago, a word from your lips and the world turned around.
But somehow you've changed, you're so far away
I long for the past and dream of the days with you, Madame Blue."


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 23, 2011, 01:01:10 PM
I've been reading some of AJ's old writing regarding "negative-only" training, and I'm thinking dat maybe I will incorporate this style of training with my DB Concentration Curls, since it would be possible to do it with this particular exercise. We will see...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGXYiIDTPDI

"Time after time I sit and I wait for your call
I know I'm a fool but what can I say.
Whatever the price I'll pay for you, Madame Blue
Once long ago, a word from your lips and the world turned around.
But somehow you've changed, you're so far away
I long for the past and dream of the days with you, Madame Blue."

Negative movements are productive used short term, I get good results doing negative dips periodically.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on April 24, 2011, 02:40:46 AM
You looked great.
Better muscle up or Groink will knock on your door.
;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 24, 2011, 07:43:05 AM
Just finished da arm training and here are the results:

1. DB Con Curl: stayed the same

2. DB Overhead Tri Ext: up 2 reps from 4 reps to 6 reps

3. Close-Grip Push-Ups: up 3 reps from 6 reps to 9 reps

So this data tells me to train every 48 hours, which I will now do 8) The only lift that didn't improve is the DB Con Curls, but they will FACT


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMAo0m4E4Lc



"You always keep me guessin'
I never seem to know
what you are thinkin
And if a fella looks at you
It's for sure your little eye
will be a-winkin'

I get confused
'cause I don't know where I stand
And then you smile
and hold my hand
Love is kinda crazy
with a spooky little girl like you"

TRUE DAT!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 24, 2011, 11:38:26 PM
Here's another pic of dat skinny-fat anorexic fuck dj, even wit a little bit of leg showing dis time ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: w8m8 on April 25, 2011, 04:29:14 AM
Here's another pic of dat skinny-fat anorexic fuck dj, even wit a little bit of leg showing dis time ;D

the shadow is meant to help add some size ? why use side lighting ?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Xerxes on April 25, 2011, 04:42:48 AM
Here's another pic of dat skinny-fat anorexic fuck dj, even wit a little bit of leg showing dis time ;D

legs look defined and not too bad actually


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 25, 2011, 04:56:26 AM
legs look defined and not too bad actually

Thanks bro :P


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 25, 2011, 04:59:22 AM
the shadow is meant to help add some size ? why use side lighting ?

Good point, but I didn't plan it that way on purpose, as I was just having my girlfriend at the time take some snap shots so that I could send them to a physique modelling agency.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 25, 2011, 07:46:38 AM
Just did the DB Squat/Deads after 6 days between the last Squat/Dead workout and they are up 7 reps, from 18 reps to 25 reps 8)

And here is an example of ma ideal woman ;D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXfROqR_p1A


"So if you are out there waiting
I hope you show up soon
You know I need relating not solitude"

Who me? I'm sorry gorgeous babydoll, but I'm just too scared  :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 25, 2011, 11:53:00 AM
Here's another pic of dat skinny-fat anorexic fuck dj, even wit a little bit of leg showing dis time ;D

Are you bald now?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 25, 2011, 12:05:59 PM
Are you bald now?

Not yet, but I'm getting there


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 25, 2011, 01:08:37 PM
Not yet, but I'm getting there


HA HA. ..I figured as much. ..plus you have a big nose


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 25, 2011, 02:09:44 PM
It's finally starting to come back to me... Basically I gots to train most every day, not a whole lotta of training, but something. I have an idea/theory that training most everyday keeps the metabolism hyped and the hormonal output spiked. So I'll give this split a little run:

DAY 1: (Tris) A. DB Overhead Tri Ext
                  B. Weighted Close-Grip Push-Ups
                  C. DB Kickbacks

DAY 2: (Bis/Delts) A. DB Con Curl
                         B. DB Side Raise
                         C. DB Bent-Over Lateral

DAY 3: (Legs) A. DB Squats/Deads


Also, I think this 1st Phase of getting relatively lean is working well, as it seems to have been a good catalyst to get my gains going. My arms are looking rounder, fuller, and prettier nowadays 8)


And now I leave you with a rather beautiful Harrison tune :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-KAvPbO8JY


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 25, 2011, 05:00:55 PM
It's finally starting to come back to me... Basically I gots to train most every day, not a whole lotta of training, but something. I have an idea/theory that training most everyday keeps the metabolism hyped and the hormonal output spiked. So I'll give this split a little run:

DAY 1: (Tris) A. DB Overhead Tri Ext
                  B. Weighted Close-Grip Push-Ups
                  C. DB Kickbacks

DAY 2: (Bis/Delts) A. DB Con Curl
                         B. DB Side Raise
                         C. DB Bent-Over Lateral

DAY 3: (Legs) A. DB Squats/Deads


Also, I think this 1st Phase of getting relatively lean is working well, as it seems to have been a good catalyst to get my gains going. My arms are looking rounder, fuller, and prettier nowadays 8)


And now I leave you with a rather beautiful Harrison tune :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-KAvPbO8JY

Your first phase failed you little shitstain....you crowed "how easy" sub 7 was going to be for six months....and didn't get below 12% with your "methods" you bald headed penis.

You are a joke...Xerxes owns you but he doesn't carry on like he's a pro BBer....the way you do.   You will finish near the bottom in that contest but I see you are already firing up the excuse machine in that thread.  ;)

You are an unfunny dildo licker, everyone laughs AT you, not with you .

And you have a big nose and a bald head... you look like a pelican


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 26, 2011, 12:49:33 AM
Keep em coming groin ;) You see chump, each time you insult me wit da attempt to drive me off or to make ma confidence go down fails miserably, coz it has the opposite effect upon me and it only drives me harder and gives me more encouragement, so thanks dicksmack. By da way, I did hit sub-10, but you are just too much of a clueless imbicile to see it. Someone who is 12% or over DOES NOT have that kind of detail in their mid and upper back penisbreath


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on April 26, 2011, 04:28:59 AM
Your first phase failed you little shitstain....you crowed "how easy" sub 7 was going to be for six months....and didn't get below 12% with your "methods" you bald headed penis.

You are a joke...Xerxes owns you but he doesn't carry on like he's a pro BBer....the way you do.   You will finish near the bottom in that contest but I see you are already firing up the excuse machine in that thread.  ;)

You are an unfunny dildo licker, everyone laughs AT you, not with you .

And you have a big nose and a bald head... you look like a pelican




Hahaha ;D...jeez!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: mass 04 on April 26, 2011, 06:05:23 AM
Your first phase failed you little shitstain....you crowed "how easy" sub 7 was going to be for six months....and didn't get below 12% with your "methods" you bald headed penis.

You are a joke...Xerxes owns you but he doesn't carry on like he's a pro BBer....the way you do.   You will finish near the bottom in that contest but I see you are already firing up the excuse machine in that thread.  ;)

You are an unfunny dildo licker, everyone laughs AT you, not with you .

And you have a big nose and a bald head... you look like a pelican
haha can you imagine this skidmark doing his 12.5lb lateral raises and 20lb concentration curls for 5 reps and screaming your name like Lou Ferrigno in Pumping Iron while his "flat mate" tells him to shut the fuck up and go to bed.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 26, 2011, 06:23:14 AM
Keep em coming groin ;) You see chump, each time you insult me wit da attempt to drive me off or to make ma confidence go down fails miserably, coz it has the opposite effect upon me and it only drives me harder and gives me more encouragement, so thanks dicksmack. By da way, I did hit sub-10, but you are just too much of a clueless imbicile to see it. Someone who is 12% or over DOES NOT have that kind of detail in their mid and upper back penisbreath

I must have missed the "detail", I was too busy laughing at the lack of muscle...the pasty skin tone and the bald head


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 26, 2011, 06:28:37 AM
haha can you imagine this skidmark doing his 12.5lb lateral raises and 20lb concentration curls for 5 reps and screaming your name like Lou Ferrigno in Pumping Iron while his "flat mate" tells him to shut the fuck up and go to bed.


HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! :D



Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 26, 2011, 01:31:45 PM
A quick message for all ma fans, followers, and affectionadoes. I will be posting ma back double bi update pic tomorrow. FACT

P.S. I don't follow... I LEAD


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 26, 2011, 02:54:55 PM
A quick message for all ma fans, followers, and affectionadoes. I will be posting ma back double bi update pic tomorrow. FACT

P.S. I don't follow... I LEAD

I'm always up for a good laugh

Where exactly are you "leading"......people down the road to twink status?

Ill state this again.....you don't have a good build, you have no standout bodyparts. ....You look like an average bald guy off the street. No one here takes you seriously,  you are one of the "board idiots" we laugh at.

The reason I'm breaking your balls is because you act as if you are something special...on the "twink" contest thread you act as if you " decide to get serious" ..... .its lights out  ::)

Here's the news tiny...Xerxes ,Devilsmile and Lovemonkey all have better builds than you, and will beat you....now, or in August...take your pick.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 26, 2011, 11:21:49 PM
The reason I'm breaking your balls is because you act as if you are something special...on the "twink" contest thread you act as if you " decide to get serious" ..... .its lights out  ::)

Here's the news tiny...Xerxes ,Devilsmile and Lovemonkey all have better builds than you, and will beat you....now, or in August...take your pick.

I've never said that I look or looked outstanding. And as far as my all-time best condition goes, I'd say that I looked pretty good for a lifetime natural, not outstanding or phenomenal, but pretty good. It's clearly obvious that you have some kind of "emotional invovlement" here, and that you can not evaluate my progress or lack thereof objectively.

The whole point of this thread is to show my progress and what I can do. Yeah, I didn't make such a great of a progress that I said I would, but I still made progress, and I will continue to make progress.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 27, 2011, 02:09:43 AM
Just finished up ma famous LEADER delt workout 8) And here are ma results:

1. DB Side Raises: last workout 25*10 and this workout 30*5

2, DB Bent-over Laterals: last workout 12*10 and this wokout 17*12 (yes, dats right, I went up 5 pounds per hand and added 2 reps 8) I'm even shocked by dat progress :o )

P.S. Yeah I know dat those aren't such huge impressive numbers, but the thing is, I keep rock solid form on these 2 lifts, with a 3 to 4 second postive, and a second hold at da top, followed by a 3 to 4 second negative. Again, the key is PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD and to keep lifting greater and greater poundages, coz if you do that then you will see improvements FACT


And now I leave you with "The Voice" Mr. Paul Rodgers "YEAAAAHHHH!!! YEAAAAHHHH!!!" 8) 8) 8)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHemB0t31Tw


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 27, 2011, 05:39:32 AM
Ok, so Ive gained 3 kilos or about 7 pounds, from 154 to 161, and I gained a little over a half an inch on my arms.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 27, 2011, 07:07:12 AM
I've never said that I look or looked outstanding. And as far as my all-time best condition goes, I'd say that I looked pretty good for a lifetime natural, not outstanding or phenomenal, but pretty good. It's clearly obvious that you have some kind of "emotional invovlement" here, and that you can not evaluate my progress or lack thereof objectively.

The whole point of this thread is to show my progress and what I can do. Yeah, I didn't make such a great of a progress that I said I would, but I still made progress, and I will continue to make progress.

Listen dude. ..we both know what's going on here. If every post You made was like this one...just a regular Guy trying to improve. ....no one would think you are an asshole.

But you will be right back to blabbing about yourself...and only yourself....in your retarded language in no time. And posting pics of Zane as if you have that type of body, and posting lyrics as if you had something to do with them.

 You're a douche .


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on April 27, 2011, 07:17:33 AM


 You're a douche .



And a tiny one at that.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: mass 04 on April 27, 2011, 08:03:18 AM
monster 11 inch arms, U taper, hairdo that lost a fight with a weed whacker and severe scoliosis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzXUmbU58ME

FACT 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 27, 2011, 01:42:21 PM
But you will be right back to blabbing about yourself...and only yourself....in your retarded language in no time. And posting pics of Zane as if you have that type of body, and posting lyrics as if you had something to do with them.

Allright fair enough, it's true that I'm very self-centered and even self-obsessed. But I haven't reverted to my "retarded lanugage" so much over the past few weeks. And as far as me posting pics of Zane because I think that I look like him or have his type of body. Well, that's just the wrong assumption, coz I'm not so delusional to think that I actually look like him, but I do think that I have an asetetic type of physique. And you're wrong about the lyric posting, coz I know that I don't have anything to do with those lyrics that I post, but I appeciate writing talent when I see it. So me quoting these lyrics is more my way of me giving props to the lyric writers themselves. And speaking of writing talent, this mass 04 has got some really decent comedic writing talent, and quite honestly I'm impressed by it, even if it's directed at me. I'm able to laugh at myself, and I don't take myself so seriously most of the time.


I'm not sure how many here are able to see this and "read between the lines" but basically my "retarded lanugage" was a manifestation of my own self-hatred for letting myself go so far out of shape and to get into such terrible condition. And the thing is, now that I am making some improvements and starting to get into better shape and condition I am getting better mentally and emotionally, and therefore I'm not being such a dickhead. Yeah I'm still a bit of a dickhead, but I'm certainly less of a dickhead than I was before. And seriously, not everything that I write is written with a malicious intent.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 27, 2011, 10:44:04 PM
Allright, since viewing my latest pic a bit more closely and "objectively" and from some of the advice/input from a few of my homies on here (yeah, believe it or now I do have a few of them here) I've come to the realization dat my lats pretty much suck ass, yeah I guess everything sucks ass, but my lats suck ass moreso than the other parts FACT ;) So I'm going to go back to exactly what I did to reach my all-time best condition, and that was to train 1 body a day, and to try every single day. So I will work on the schedule and update it here. It will probably be this: chest/back/delts/legs/tris/bis. Also at that time I was running 2 miles most every nite, but I still haven't gotten around to the running part just yet


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 30, 2011, 12:44:48 AM
Ok, so after thinking it over, I'm gonna do the Max-OT protocol which is this:

1. Each workout should last approximately 30 to 40 minutes.
2. Train only 1 or 2 muscle groups per workout/day.
3. Do 6 to 9 total heavy sets per muscle group.
4. Do 4 to 6 reps per set.
5. Rest 2 to 3 minutes between sets. (STR)
6. Train each muscle group once every 5 to 7 days. (ITR)
7. Take a 1 week break from training every 8 to 10 weeks.

The only modification that I will make, is that I will do 5 to 8 reps per set, otherwise I will follow the rest of it exactly as it is presented.


And now.... The best of the best 8) 8) 8)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYiahoYfPGk


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 30, 2011, 09:14:03 AM
Allright, I've got it set now, and I'm going to follow the Max-OT protocol, since it's very close to what I was doing when I was at my best (not to mention the fact that it alllows my OCD to still be satified, since it basically calls for daily training sessions :) ) So once again here are the 7 commandments of Max-Ot with my slight modifications to most of these commandments.

1. Each workout should last approximately 30 to 40 minutes. (I think that even up to 90 minutes per session is acceptable)

2. Train only 1 or 2 muscle groups per workout/day. (I completely agree with this one, so no modifications here)
 
3. Do 6 to 9 total heavy sets per muscle group. (My modification is 6 to 9 heavy sets total for the workout, not per muscle group trained)
 
4. Do 4 to 6 reps per set. (My modification calls for 5 to 8 reps for upper body movements, and 8 to 12 reps for lower body movements)

5. Rest 2 to 3 minutes between sets. (STR) (My modification calls for 4 to 5 minutes rest between work sets, as it takes 4 full minutes for ATP-PC stores to be nearly completely replaced)

6. Train each muscle group once every 5 to 7 days. (ITR) (I completely agree with this one, so no modifications here)

7. Take a 1 week break from training every 8 to 10 weeks. (With my OCD it ain't gonna happen)


Ok, so here is the training schedule:

Day 1 -  Legs
DB Squats 3*12
1-Leg Standing Calf Raise 3*12

Day 2 -  Arms
DB Con Curls 3*8
Overhead Tri Ext 3*8

Day 3 -  Shoulders and Traps
DB Side Laterals 3*8
DB Shrugs  3*8
  
Day 4 - Back
DB Rows 3*8
DB Bent-Over Laterals 3*8

Friday -  Chest
Dips 3*8
DB Incline Flyes 3*8


And lastly, one of ma fav Elton John tunes 8) 8) 8)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eyjBBcUO9k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVUUoN87Y5o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFvlF2CirP0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1vZ6Mt-9t4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5qT2C_Ggpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB8WHA3WWz0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilKM-2Zd8N8


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 01, 2011, 03:57:21 AM
Allright, I just found a great article on Max-OT training, and here it is:




Understanding What Builds Muscle
By Paul Delia

In The Quest to Gain Muscle Size and Strength, Many Forget Why They Train!

There is no definite right or wrong way to train. There are however, better and more efficient ways to build muscle. I have developed an approach to building muscle that far exceeds any other training method I have seen to date. It's called Max-OT - Maximum Overload Training.

Max-OT is not a complicated program. It revolves around the basic fundamental physiological factors that make muscle grow. This is what makes Max-OT so effective for everyone that follows it. It does't matter if you are a genetic freak or genetic geek, Max-OT will maximize your muscle growth faster than any other training approach. The only way Max-OT will not work for you is if you don't follow it. If you do, watch out. You're going to experience more muscle growth and strength increases than you ever thought possible.

The More You Know The Less You Grow

Let me take you back a bit. Can you tell me at what point in your training did you gain the most muscle size in the shortest period of time? Let me guess. The first year you started training seriously. Am I right? Why do think this is? After all, you didn't know anything about weight training. Certainly not as much as you know now. So why is it as you get "smarter" and learn more about "how to train" your gains in muscle size and strength come slower?

You need to really think about this. The more you learn - the less you gain. Doesn't make sense does it? Here's the reason - you have been learning - or should I say, you have been taught all wrong.

When you first started training you didn't know what you were doing. You always wanted to see how much you could lift, your form was sloppy and your routines were unorganized. But you gained lots of muscle and lots of strength! How could that be? People are always saying, "You always gain a lot of muscle when you first start." But why? No one has been able to give me a plausible answer outside of "You just do."

My firm belief is, the reason you gain so much when you first start is because you are always challenging yourself. Your form is loose and you train heavy from a relative standpoint. Basically you train with a very primitive form of Max-OT but you don't realize it.

As the months role along and you get more involved in your training you begin to commit your first sin - you start reading the magazines (or catalogs as they should be called). And in the pages of these magazines are all the training routines of all the top bodybuilders. With pictures too. You know, the ones where they are all screaming during each rep like someone has a blowtorch to their ass.

As you read these routines you learn about forced reps, super sets, giant sets, pyramids, drop sets, strip sets, 2 a day splits, 3 hour workouts, 25 sets per body part, strict form, and on and on and on. Then comes the second sin - you start training the way the magazines tell you to train. You actually start doing all this garbage. And what happens? Gains in muscle size and strength start slowing way down to little more than a crawl and many times not even that.

I know, I know, some of those articles sound pretty damn convincing. And hell, the more you train the more you gain - right? Wrong!

Why You Do What You Do

Let's step back and review your approach to building muscle. The first thing you need to do is ask yourself why you are training the way you are training. And if you can't give yourself a logical and realistic answer then you don't need to be training that way. It's that simple.

Overload and Intensity

There are two main training components that build muscle - overload and intensity. And not just overload and intensity but maximum overload integrated with maximum intensity.

It's the integration of these two factors that will determine the rate at which your training encourages muscle growth. Overload without intensity is just half the equation. Intensity without overload is just intensity.

4 to 6 Reps

Max-OT stipulates that you use maximum weight for 4 to 6 reps. This rep range tied to the weight that limits you to between 4 and 6 reps is the ideal weight-rep overload force for maximum muscle fiber stimulation and forced muscular adaptation.

Understand that in order for a muscle to grow it must have a reason to grow. Overload required for maximum muscular contraction and force is that reason. Overload is applied through maximum weight utilization and not through high volume reps coupled with moderate weight. Total volume of work is not an indication of muscular overload. Total volume is just total volume.

Using maximum weight for 4 to 6 reps (the weight used must allow at least 4 reps but must also be heavy enough that you will not be able to do more than 6 reps) involves maximum fiber recruitment and fiber overload. Overload is the reason for muscle to grow. It forces muscle fibers to respond through growth. Without overload a muscle has no reason to grow.

Sets - How Many?

Most people do way to many sets. It's strange but for some reason everyone thinks they need to do at least three sets of every different exercise they do. Where did this come from?

Max-OT prescribes 6 to 8 total sets. That is it. Do not exceed this amount. You see, Max-OT is such an intense approach to building muscle that this is all the muscle needs for total fiber overload. The biggest mistake most everyone makes is doing way too much volume. Most people over-train and never even know it. Over-training will stall muscle growth in its tracks!

For some reason, probably because of the macho stigma that has manifested itself with bodybuilding, people think they should train until they are completely drained of all energy, until they have to be scraped off the gym floor. This is wrong and will not promote efficient muscle growth.

Again, exhaustion or fatigue is not overload. Fatigue is counterproductive to building muscle. When you fatigue a muscle before you have achieved overload, you cannot maximize muscle growth.

Training Frequency

Train each muscle group once every 7 days. This is very important for two primary reasons.

It allows you to train one muscle group per workout. This creates the highest mental and physical intensity possible. This is essential to maximum muscle growth. You can use heavier weights and mentally focus more during each and every rep you do.

It allows for full recuperation between workouts. Training a muscle before it is fully recuperated puts you in a downhill spiral to over-training. Over-training will whittle away at muscle tissue and mentally defeat your efforts to build maximum muscle. Avoid Training Mistakes

Understanding that overload induces muscle growth is the first major step in a successful Max-OT program. Do not confuse overload with fatigue. This is a common mistake. Overloading a muscle group induces maximum growth response by forcing the muscle to adapt to the increased load. If a muscle has no reason to adapt (grow) it will not. Fatiguing a muscle through high rep training only encourages increased time to exhaustion or muscular endurance.

Fatigue is fatigue and nothing more. Fatiguing a muscle will not induce growth and plenty of research suggests fatigue induces physiological responses that are counterproductive to muscle growth.

As far as building muscular size and strength is concerned there is no place for high rep, high set training. High rep training does not overload the muscle sufficiently to induce a maximum growth response. The only time reps over 6 should ever be performed is during your warm-up sets. Warm-up sets are strictly for warming the muscles and joints up. Again, avoid fatigue during warm-up sets.

Mindset When Your Hand Touches The Bar

The best way I have found to approach training is to adapt the philosophy I am about to spell out.

Anytime you wrap your hand around a bar - from that moment forward, until you release your grip, only one thing should be on your mind - to build the maximum amount of muscle you possibly can.

Adopting this mindset and mentally repeating it to yourself each time before you do a set will propel your gains like you wouldn't believe. This is an integral part of Max-OT training.

As you can see, adopting the correct mental approach is just as important as the mechanical aspects of Max-OT. Integrate the two and you have what is the ultimate training approach for building maximum muscle size and strength - Max-OT.

Max-OT Summary

Warm-up to warm-up - nothing more. Overload the muscle! Overload the muscle! Overload the muscle! Do 4 to 6 reps to failure. This means the weight used should allow you to get at least 4 reps but no more than 6. If you can't do 4 reduce the weight. If you can do more than 6 go heavier! Sets - do 6 to 8 total sets per muscle group. Train each muscle group once every 7 days. Train with maximum mental and physical intensity. For weight - when in doubt go heavier! Always error to the heavy side. For sets - when you are unsure of whether you should do 1 more set - don't! More is not better. Anytime you train you are doing so to build muscle. There is no such thing as "light-days". Don't waste time or energy on wacky training theories or routines. Be smart and do what builds muscle, not what some writer says builds muscle. Implementing Max-OT will be the most exciting experience in building muscle you'll ever have. You'll spend less time in the gym and make more gains than you ever have. What more could you ask for?


And here is one of ma all-time fav tunes 8)

"You analyze me, tend to despise me
You laugh when I stumble and fall
There may come a day when I'll dance on your grave
Unable to dance I'll still crawl across it
Unable to dance I'll still crawl
Unable to dance I'll still crawl
Unable to dance I'll crawl"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH7I6ibA-SM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XhrLyJmZwM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AYgpqkfT14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0iS-bEWsQA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twICykaRRvY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9nnp84f39c


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 02, 2011, 01:21:54 PM
Just finished my arm session and the overhead tri ext went down 2 reps from last workout, so this tells me that I have to keep it as a push/pull split, so here is my new revised schedule:

Day 1: Back/Bi- Row and Con Curl

Day 2: Delts- Side Raise and Bent Lateral

Day 3: Chest/Tri- Push-up and Incline Fly and Overhead Tri Ext

Day 4: Legs/Traps- DB Squat and DB Shrugs

And to stay true to the Max-OT protocol I will stick with 4 to 6 reps per work set (except for legs, which I will do 8 to 12 reps per work set). But the only problem with this is that I have nearly maxed out the rows and the squats with the weights that I have. You see, I can only load 80 pounds on each bell. so I can either choose to "maintain" my legs and back, while adding size to my arms, delts, and chest, or try and find a decent gym to join? And speaking of this decent gym thing, my ladyfriend said that she may have a job for me as a fitness trainer at one of the bigger fitness clubs in this new bigger city that I will be re-locating to this coming Friday. So then it may be problem solved ;D



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clFGTS3jpsA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ziyCPLHwOY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3NXgM_LGQA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lad3jUGhp5w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTSxAMPXJ80


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2011, 11:27:52 AM
....or try and find a decent gym to join? And speaking of this decent gym thing, my ladyfriend said that she may have a job for me as a fitness trainer at one of the bigger fitness clubs in this new bigger city that I will be re-locating to this coming Friday. So then it may be problem solved ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clFGTS3jpsA

Doesn't one have to know something about fitness and training to work at gym as a fitness trainer? Are you sure it isn't a job as a towell/counter boy?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 03, 2011, 09:59:19 PM
Doesn't one have to know something about fitness and training to work at gym as a fitness trainer? Are you sure it isn't a job as a towell/counter boy?

Good point, but I think that I know a thing or two about getting and being fit. And especially training to be ultra fit. You see when I was in high school I was a track athlete and I ran the half mile race, and my PR for the half mile was 1:57. Also, when I was 23 I had my VO2 Max tested at The Ohio State University exercise science lab, and I tested out with a VO2 Max of 71 ml/kg/min. P.S. Average VO2 max is around 45 ml/kg/min, and my rating of 71 ml/kg/min is within "elite level" FACT 8) So yeah, I think that I maybe know a little something about how to get fit :-*


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2011, 10:23:10 AM
Good point, but I think that I know a thing or two about getting and being fit. And especially training to be ultra fit. You see when I was in high school I was a track athlete and I ran the half mile race, and my PR for the half mile was 1:57. Also, when I was 23 I had my VO2 Max tested at The Ohio State University exercise science lab, and I tested out with a VO2 Max of 71 ml/kg/min. P.S. Average VO2 max is around 45 ml/kg/min, and my rating of 71 ml/kg/min is within "elite level" FACT 8) So yeah, I think that I maybe know a little something about how to get fit :-*

If I were a gym owner, I'd hire you on the spot. -Great qualifications to be a trainer....lets see, one time high school track athlete and able to suck air. Sounds like a winning combination to me. Oh, and how long ago was this?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 04, 2011, 11:24:50 AM
If I were a gym owner, I'd hire you on the spot. -Great qualifications to be a trainer....lets see, one time high school track athlete and able to suck air. Sounds like a winning combination to me. Oh, and how long ago was this?

It doesn't really matter how long ago it was, what matters is that "I've been there, done that". So not only do I have written knowledge, I also have real-life experience. I know how to get fit. And as far as "body-building/muscle-building" I have the same qualifications. Listen, I DONT WANT TO BE BIG, I want to be lean and sharp 165 @ 7% and then once I'm there I don't want anymore size. My problem is that I was trying to "take the easy way out" but it's finally penetrated my thick skull that there is "no easy way out" P.S. I worked as a fit trainer World Gym in Columbus Ohio, and then a few years later I worked as a fit trainer in NYC, so I've got plenty of experience in this field.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2011, 10:14:40 PM
.... so I've got plenty of experience in this field.

And I presume you are certificated too.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on May 04, 2011, 10:56:10 PM
How many cals do you consume each day?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 04, 2011, 11:23:31 PM
And I presume you are certificated too.

Well I was certified, but it's expired now. Also, I took a handful of exercise science courses at The Ohio State University. P.S. I am MUCH MORE INTELLIGENT than I present myself here.

Also, I showed another ladyfriend of mine (not the one in the photo with me, but another one) this thread, and she loved it how you and groink put me in my place, as she said that I deserved it, and she just wanted me to tell y'all thank you ;D

P.S. My grandmother used to sing a little tune to me when I was a child, as I would babble on about myself. This tune went like this "I love me, I love me so, I took myself to the picture show" ROFL!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 04, 2011, 11:37:12 PM
How many cals do you consume each day?

Not sure actually, but I would say probably round 3000. Here is my "normal" day now, eating wise:

Meal 1: 3 egg omlette with cheese, coffee with cream and sugar, 2 red bulls
           2 red bulls

Meal 2: a medium pepperoni pizza and a half liter of coke

Meal 3: big mac, large fries, medium coke

Meal 4: hot tea, and either some chocolate chip cookies, or gummi bears

I think it's round 3000 cals :-\ My bodyweight is up to 167 from 154, and my waist is now at 78 cm, when I was 54 it was at 76 cm. So that's 13 pounds gained, with less than an inch added to my wasit 8)

And here is ma tribute to da Getbig twink contest 8) 8) 8)
"I'm gonna win! Yeah I'm gonna win!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHdMt5OpNkM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8-dGSONbwk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QljvjRx2nnY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ktIxWJL9ZQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YdDW1WR64k


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on May 04, 2011, 11:56:37 PM
Not sure actually, but I would say probably round 3000. Here is my "normal" day now, eating wise:

Meal 1: 3 egg omlette with cheese, coffee with cream and sugar, 2 red bulls
           2 red bulls

Meal 2: a medium pepperoni pizza and a half liter of coke

Meal 3: big mac, large fries, medium coke

Meal 4: hot tea, and either some chocolate chip cookies, or gummi bears

I think it's round 3000 cals :-\ My bodyweight is up to 167 from 154, and my waist is now at 78 cm, when I was 54 it was at 76 cm. So that's 13 pounds gained, with less than an inch added to my wasit 8)

And here is ma tribute to da Getbig twink contest 8) 8) 8)
"I'm gonna win! Yeah I'm gonna win!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHdMt5OpNkM
I dont know...seems A LOT more than 3000 cals.  ;D

Whats the phase youre into now? gain muscle or its just a "cheat day"?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 05, 2011, 12:17:05 AM
I dont know...seems A LOT more than 3000 cals.  ;D

Whats the phase youre into now? gain muscle or its just a "cheat day"?

No, that's not a cheat day, I eat like this every single day. So, you think it's A LOT more than 3000 cals? I remember years back when I ate a legit 5000 cals per day, and it was MUCH MORE than what I eat now.

This Phase now is to gain muscle without gaining fat. As I said I've gained 13 pounds so far, and my waist is up less than 1 inch, so I think dat it's going well :) I really don't think that many folks here realize what a HUGE DIFFERENCE small changes in numbers make. For example, there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE btw 165 @ 10% and 165 @ 6% HUUUUUGGGGGEEEEE DIFFERENCE ;)

Also, many here say that I'm 12% here, but that is not 12%, it is sub-10, and even gh15 said so 8) As gh15 pointed out, my cortisol levels were sky high from a stavation diet, so I was holding lots of water and it made me "look" fatter. And let's take it even further, if I would have dehydrated and did a few other "tricks of the trade" (which I won't reveal here, coz I gots to keep ma edge somehow ;D ) then I could have pulled off a sub-8 look FACT :P


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 06, 2011, 11:02:33 PM
I will be doing another Phase 1 project to prepare for da twink contest on June 1st, but this time I will take it more seriously and use what I learned from the 1st time around. Basically I will do it for 2 weeks straight but with a bit more cals, and much more protein (not the 30 to 40 grams I consumed last time lol). Also I will add the daily hard aerobic training sessions. I'll post da complete program a bit later on. P.S. I will put up these contest photos on May 27th or 28th coz dats when I gots ma date wit ma Spanish boyfriend and he likes to take ma photos when he sees me :-*


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 08, 2011, 03:31:14 AM
Ok, I've got the diet and weight trained figure out, so here goes: DIET: BREAK: coffee with cream and sugar and 4 oz of cheese which is bout 20 grams of protein and bout 300 cals total LUNCH: beef stew which is bout 40 grams of protein and bout 600 cals DINNER: 40 grams of protein with water which is bout 200 cals. So the grand totals are 100 grams of protein, and 1100 cals. TRAINING: every goddamn day on a 3-way split which is as follows: DAY 1: (DELTS) 1. Side Raises 2 work sets of 8 to 12 reps 2. Bent-over Laterals 2 work sets of 8 to 12 reps DAY 2: (BIS) 1. DB Contration Curls 1 work set of 4 to 6 reps and 1 set of negatives with 8 sec lowering for 4 to 6 reps 2. DB Rows 1 maintance work set of 6 reps every 6 days DAY 3: (TRIS) 1. DB Overhead Tri Ext 2 work sets of 4 to 6 reps 2. Weighted Push-ups 1 maintance work set of 6 reps every 6 days. And as far as the running goes, I've just been too goddamn lazy to do it, but I'll try and get ma ass in gear wit dat ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on May 08, 2011, 06:21:03 AM
Honestly what on earth are you doing?  You've eating about 600 calories below BMR (more than that if you're actually doing intense cardio) and doing isolation arm exercises every day.  Is this for real?  It is seriously the worst diet/program I've ever seen.  What is this supposed to accomplish?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 08, 2011, 10:14:13 AM
Well, I'm going to cycle this diet and eat 3 days @ 1100 or so, and then eat 1 day with a more normal cal intake (roughly 2000 to 2500 cals on that day). And as far as the training goes, technically I'm training delts, bis, and tris every 72 hrs, and the volume of these training days are ultra low, 2 to 6 work sets per workout. Remember, if I can increase my training loads, then my muscles MUST get bigger, they have no choice in the matter lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij0w6LdwtBE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXQmPxz7AHc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnxkfLe4G74

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhY9GOhFwN4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKbz6gCmlWw



Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 08, 2011, 01:55:38 PM
Ok hulkotron, I just re-read your post, and as far as what I'm trying to accomplish at the moment now is to gain muscle only on my delts and arms, while getting leaner at the same time. And get this, I'm actually gonna listen to what you said about my "diet" so I will change my dinner from the protein drink mixed in water, to 4 eggs mixed in cream. That will keep my protein at about 100 grams, but up my cals to about 1500 on the low cal days.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on May 08, 2011, 02:39:17 PM
Do you know anyone with big arms who just does curls, tricep extensions, and lateral raises?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 08, 2011, 08:51:41 PM
My whole point is that PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD creates bigger muscles, and also that this can be applied specifially to isolated muscles (in my case delts and arms). So let me ask you this (I'm giving my own stats here). Ok, so at the moment I use 40 pounds for con curls for 5 reps, and my goal is to use 60 pounds for 6 reps, which I believe that I will do within a few months time. So my question is... If I take my concentration curls from 40*5 to 60*5 will I have bigger biceps? And of course, the same thing goes for my tri and delt isolation exercises. The only compound move that I use while actively trying to increase my training load is an inc fly/press movement. I do them with the palms facing each other, and a good bend in the elbows. When I reach the bottom of the rep my arms are in a W position, so it's a hybrid incline fly/press. Anyways, thanks for the "diet" advice.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: lovemonkey on May 08, 2011, 09:23:46 PM
My whole point is that PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD creates bigger muscles, and also that this can be applied specifially to isolated muscles (in my case delts and arms). So let me ask you this (I'm giving my own stats here). Ok, so at the moment I use 40 pounds for con curls for 5 reps, and my goal is to use 60 pounds for 6 reps, which I believe that I will do within a few months time. So my question is... If I take my concentration curls from 40*5 to 60*5 will I have bigger biceps? And of course, the same thing goes for my tri and delt isolation exercises. The only compound move that I use while actively trying to increase my training load is an inc fly/press movement. I do them with the palms facing each other, and a good bend in the elbows. When I reach the bottom of the rep my arms are in a W position, so it's a hybrid incline fly/press. Anyways, thanks for the "diet" advice.

Why not go to an actual gym and work out the entire body?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on May 08, 2011, 09:27:28 PM
Why not go to an actual gym and work out the entire body?

This is the point I wanted to make before he ignored my question and posted a bunch of self-absorbed crap instead.

Seriously dj, do you know anyone (either personally or indirectly) who has succeeded in building a better physique by doing what you are doing now?  I certainly do not.  Do you think you are coming up with some new wonderful secret that will revolutionize the arm-building industry?  How many guys to do see walking around with tanked-out arms and a 22 BMI?

Why do you want to just make your arms bigger anyway?  Big arms and skinny legs looks ridiculous.

To answer your question, no, I don't think your arms will be any bigger by doing this because you are performing such a small amount of exercise and eating at such a deficit that you do not have sufficient fuel or stimulus to improve your arm strength by 50% unless it's all neurological adaptations, which are not accompanied by size.

People who go on and on about this "bigger = stronger" shit forget that there are factors with a substantial effect on strength other than muscle size.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 08, 2011, 09:45:36 PM
Well, hopefully I get this fit trainer job, and if I do then I will be able to train at a real gym. But it won't change the fact that I keep my focus on creating bigger arms and delts, while maintaining leg and back size. Basically what this gym would do is give me a greater selection of arm and delt exercises to choose from (mainly tri exercises) because in my opinion DB Concentration Curls are the absolute best bicep exercise, coz there is no delt involvement within this lift. It isolates the biceps nearly perfectly.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 08, 2011, 09:58:32 PM
Yes, I do believe that it's possible to "spot gain". Remember, I'm not interested in being a "big guy" I want to be a "conditioned guy" 165 to 170 TOPS, but at 6-7% I do weigh 167 now, but I'm around 11-12% so technically that would be about 7 pound of lean muscle tissue, and yes I firmly believe that I can put nearly all of it on my arms and delts. Also, it's not like my legs are tiny. In fact they measure 24 inches at the top of the thigh.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on May 08, 2011, 10:18:24 PM
Sigh, I didn't ask if you think it's possible to spot gain, I asked if you know anyone who has followed this absurd program you've come up with and had any modicum of success.  Seems like you've already rebooted it once.

But keep wasting your time experimenting if you wish.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 08, 2011, 10:35:13 PM
No I haven't known anybody who followed this exact program I'm following. But what I can say with absolute certainty is that EVERYTIME I increased my training loads my muscles ALWAYS got bigger. And volume training NEVER did jack shit for me, as I just got smaller, weaker, and flatter doing volume training. Honestly my best and fastest result came from a HIT style cycle training style, but it just isn't a practical style of training. Here is a pec one that gave me great results: first Incline DB Press til failure, plus 2 to 4 forced reps, and then immediately after the press pec-deck til failure plus 2 to 4 forced reps, and then lastly dip til total failure, both postive and negative failure. And I did this cycle only 1 time through each chest workout. Now that is hard training! But the problem is that you need an expert partner/trainer to push you through a training cycle like that.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on May 08, 2011, 10:39:53 PM
P.S. My grandmother used to sing a little tune to me when I was a child, as I would babble on about myself. This tune went like this "I love me, I love me so, I took myself to the picture show" ROFL!


Boom, Boom, Ain't It Great to Be Crazy

Children's Song

First Verse:
I love myself, I love me so,
I took myself to the picture show,
I put my arms around my waist,
I got so fresh I slapped my face.

Chorus:
Boom, boom ain't it great to be crazy
Boom, boom ain't it great to be nuts like me,
Silly and foolish all day long,
Boom, boom ain't it great to be crazy.



Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: lovemonkey on May 09, 2011, 02:49:18 AM
Alright, I'm convinced. dj181 is a troll.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 09, 2011, 03:01:06 AM
Define troll? Do you mean that those pics aren't really me and that they aren't current, or do you think that I'm pulling your leg as to how I really train and diet? Again, I don't follow Mentzer or AJ's training protocol to a tee, I just pick and choose the elements of their theories that worked for me.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 09, 2011, 10:46:50 AM
Here is a excerpt from my personal CV, I'm sure dat you fellas are gonna love this ROFL!!!!


SPECIAL SKILLS

Conceptualization: Designed individual fitness programs for adults

Organization: Organized, managed and taught fitness seminars

Communication: Excellent interpersonal skills

Research: Extensive self-experimentation, record keeping, reading on topic,

and consulting with experts in the fitness field




Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on May 09, 2011, 12:14:11 PM
What a pansy ass workout.....no compound movements at all.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 09, 2011, 09:16:13 PM
What a pansy ass workout.....no compound movements at all.

I do compound moves (rows, squats, push-ups), but I only do them once a week, and only for maintaince purposes, which means using the same weight for the same same reps ie. not progressively overloading them.

But.... I am PROGRESSIVELY OVERLOADING, my delt and arm exercises, hence they WILL GET LARGER AND THICKER FACT 8)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7x_vWNRS5c

"When the Jazzman's signifyin'
And the band is windin' low
It's the late night side of morning
In the darkness of his soul
He can fill a room with sadness
As he fills his horn with tears"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPG69s5x4N8

"I'm in trouble
Cause you're a rambler and a gambler
And a sweet-talking-ladies man
And you love your lovin'
But not like you love your freedom"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygtsdBYo6xc

3 lovely and soulful Jewesses FACT :P


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 11, 2011, 04:03:26 AM
Yesterday when I hit Delts, I added a rep on each exercise, and today when I hit da con curls I also added a rep :) I'm being a pussy about the running thing, but I will get it into gear sooner or later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKBttQmhDBw

"I can hear windmills and rainbows
Whenever you're talkin' to me
I feel like swirling and dancin'
Whenever you're walking with me
You ripple like a river when I touch you
When I pluck your body like a string"


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 11, 2011, 10:36:12 PM
Just finished da Tri Extensions, are they went up a rep :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0A7jAVDPJU

A very gorgeous and very soulful Jewess right here :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E4FRtrD9aQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDfH_J4MAUQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCeD_6Y3GQc


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 12, 2011, 02:51:22 AM
Just finished da Tri Extensions, are they went up a rep :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0A7jAVDPJU

A very gorgeous and very soulful Jewess right here :P
Progress is progress. Nice chin on Carly I always like a chick with a sharp chin.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 12, 2011, 04:08:18 AM
I've finally figured out how to go about ma hard aerobic training. I live in an 8 story flat building, so I've decided to make my aerobic training stair climbing. It's hard enough coz it keeps my breathing elevated at a good pace, not to mention dat it really trains the legs ;D I will take 2 steps at a time on the way up, and I'll do this nearly every single day for a 15 to 20 min clip at a time.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 13, 2011, 10:26:29 PM
Holy shit! I'm getting leaner by the day from this stair climbing, skin is getting thinner and thinner each and every day FACT ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbxUtFDKz8k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMAo0m4E4Lc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p_deqVPR-w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnVGof5wxn0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhGS9sGNC2o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zz8mbqtgO8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrG5nR7tFLI


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on May 14, 2011, 09:23:32 PM
I've finally figured out how to go about ma hard aerobic training. I live in an 8 story flat building, so I've decided to make my aerobic training stair climbing. It's hard enough coz it keeps my breathing elevated at a good pace, not to mention dat it really trains the legs ;D I will take 2 steps at a time on the way up, and I'll do this nearly every single day for a 15 to 20 min clip at a time.
cool. Thats a great alternative way of cardio..


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 15, 2011, 01:30:10 AM
cool. Thats a great alternative way of cardio..

True dat! And as I said before, I'm finally "remembering" just what it takes to stay conditoned year-round, and it takes 2 majors things.

1. Some form on training nearly every single day (weight training and/or hard aerobic training, which should be done in the AT style). Also, keeping the training hard, but brief, not more than 15 minutes of total work time. When I say 15 minutes of total work time, I'm talking about time spent in hard training ie. work sets, and not including warm-up and rest time btw sets.

2. Not OVER-EATING!!!!!! You can eat crappy food (pizzas, french fries, chocolate cakes) just don't eat too much of them ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20W4slP2PGg

And I dedicate this song to my "remembering"  8)


"Understand The Voice within.
And feel a change already beginning"


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 15, 2011, 11:32:34 PM
In less than 2 weeks I'll post up some update pics. I predict that I'll be around 160 @ sub-8 with 15 inch conditioned arms, but we will see.... I wonder what would happen if I actually trained my torso and legs like I train my arms? Could I surpass gh15's natural "conditioned" limit of 172 @ 6%? Probably not....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_WmQMAA0ok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zCVwzhwCs4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz8AJh7_mKc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pknuso47k7k


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 16, 2011, 12:42:42 AM
This fella taught me quite alot about training, now it's bout time for me to "remember" what he taught me 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 18, 2011, 12:27:47 PM
I will be finish this 3 Phase Project by the end of July or August, and by then I plan to be sitting at roughly 165 sub-8 with ligit 16 inch "conditioned" arms. Come May 27th or May 28th I'll post some more update pics, and in these update pics I will be sitting @ sub-8, although I ain't sure exactly what I'll be weighing, but it don't matter none, coz once I go back to eating normal the muscle will come right back on FACT ;D As I said before, I can eat more normal, but just don't over-eat and keep active with steady daily training. This will allow me to gain muscle without gaining fat.

1. Eating more, but not too much

2. Staying active with daily or nearly daily hard short training

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gC_1sRIgOM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MY6XXWRe2c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9HMIceICr4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNAZ_nvw67A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po9xobroaSU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpPdLb69-qk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCW1i5HQ0o0


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 18, 2011, 08:59:03 PM
"I did get stronger on the machines, but gained no muscle at all" Oh Shit! That's a direct quote from Boyer Coe talking about his HIT training experience with AJ :-X As I've "remembered" more of what it actually took to get into condition and what worked best for me, I have revised my training to follow much more of a Blakely-style than an AJ/Mentzer-style.

Blakely's bread and butter protocol was 4*6, with each of these 4 sets being "work sets" with the same weight being used for each set, and then once 4 sets of 6 reps were completed increase the weight used for the next workout. So here is my new plan, and it is a 4-way split:

Day 1: 1. DB Row 4*6
          2. Bent Lateral 3*8

Day 2: 1. Dip 4*6
          2. Side Raise 3*8

Day 3: 1. DB Con Curl 4*6

Day 4: 1. DB Overhead Tri Ext 4*6

I will still continue to just "maintain" the dips and rows, by using the same weight for 4 sets of 6 reps, but I will try like hell to get the arm weights up. Remember, right now I'm attempting to "spot gain" ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HxHwuiDPgk


"You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need.
You gotta sleep on your toes, and when you're on the street,
You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed.
And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight,
You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking.

And after a while, you can work on points for style.
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.
You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
So that when they turn their backs on you,
You'll get the chance to put the knife in."


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: chaos on May 18, 2011, 09:13:27 PM

Day 1: 1. DB Row 4*6
          2. Bent Lateral 3*8

Day 2: 1. Dip 4*6
          2. Side Raise 3*8

Day 3: 1. DB Con Curl 4*6

Day 4: 1. DB Overhead Tri Ext 4*6


FatPanda.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 18, 2011, 11:00:23 PM
I'm just trying to find the balance btw "undertraining" and "overtraining" and since I'm on lo-cals I have to cut down the volume a bit. Once I can get my cals back to normal then it will start going much, much better ;D I just gotta make sure that I don't over-eat, that will be KEY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZZvaJrN45E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIZt2uyu4-4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-eP-GX6_IY


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on May 19, 2011, 07:40:44 PM
You are doing six exercises in four days.  I don't think overtraining is going to be a problem.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: chaos on May 19, 2011, 07:46:45 PM
You are doing six exercises in four days.  I don't think overtraining is going to be a problem.
I don't think muscle will be a problem either.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 19, 2011, 08:56:24 PM
You are doing six exercises in four days.  I don't think overtraining is going to be a problem.

Yeah, but you have to remebmber that I train every single day. I take a day off maybe once or twice a month, it's part of my OCD/addictive nature, I basically just cant' help myself. So, if I'm gonna be training nearly every single day then I got to be careful about over-training, especially since I'm a lifetime natural. But the good news is, I am now gonna start eating more normally now, meaning more daily cals. I won't over-eat, but I will roughly go from 1200 cals per day to round 2000 cals per day. These extra cals will guard against over-training and also help me to put on some lean muscle tissue, which I am in bad need of. Fuck! I'm even thinkg of making my goal god's high end fatter natural limit, which is 5'11" 180 @ sub-10 ves. 5'11" 165 @ sub-7

I'll be very honest here, I met my ladyfriend last night, and she said that I am looking much slimmer now, but that I'm too slim, and I asked her "So does that mean that you think that I need to have more muscles?" And she said "Yes!" So this has sparked my lean muscle gain project :P

Yeah, I know, brutal letting a woman control you, but hey! At least I'm an honest guy about it...

So, what would you recommend hulkotron? I ask this with sincerity, and I'm trying to humble myself a bit. Remember I must train nearly every single day, there just isn't any other way around it for me.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: chaos on May 19, 2011, 08:58:25 PM
Yeah, but you have to remebmber that I train every single day. I take off maybe once or twice a month, it's part of my OCD/addictive nature, I basically just cant' help myself. So, if I'm gonna be training nearly every single day then I got to be careful about over-training, especially since I'm a lifetime natural. But the good news is, I am now gonna start eating more normally now, meaning more daily cals. I won't over-eat, but I will roughly go fromm 1200 cals per day to round 2000 cals per day. These extra cals will guard against over-training and also help me to put on some lean muscle tissue, which I am in bad need of. Fuck! I'm even thinkg of making my goal god's high end fatter natural limit, which is 5'11" 180 @ sub-10 ves. 5'11" 165 @ sub-7

I'll be very honest here, I met my ladyfriend last night, and she said that I am looking much slimmer now, but that I'm too slim, and I asked her "So does that mean that you think that I need to have more muscles?" And she said "Yes!" So this has sparked my lean muscle gain project :P

Yeah, I know, brutal letting a woman control you, but hey! At least I'm an honest guy about it...

So, what would you recommend hulkotron? I ask this with sincerity, and I'm trying to humble myself a bit. Remember I must train nearly every single day, there just isn't any other way around it for me.
Everyday training is no problem.....split up your bodyparts and train 1 per day. It's not rocket science.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 19, 2011, 09:01:39 PM
Everyday training is no problem.....split up your bodyparts and train 1 per day. It's not rocket science.

Do you mean something like:

Day 1: chest

Day 2: back

Day 3: delts

Day 4: bis

Day 5: tris

Day 6: traps

Something like this?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 20, 2011, 12:19:45 AM
Here is my tentative plan:

Day 1: (back) 1. DB Rows 3*8 2. Bent Lateral 3*8

Day 2: (delts) 1. DB Military 3*8 2. Side Lateral 3*8

Day 3: (bis/traps) 1. DB Con curl 3*8 2. DB Shrugs 3*8

Day 4: (tris/chest) 1. DB Tri Ext 3*8 2. Feet Elvated Push-ups 3*20


Yeah, I know that there is no leg work, but quite honestly I don't give a shit, coz I'm not concerned about building bigger legs, and the Push-Ups are basically only for chest maintance. Remember, my goal is big arms and broad delts, set over a slim tight waistline kinda like this  ;D ;D ;D

P.S. I'm up for suggestions, as far as to how this routine looks, and this time I will listen to what is said or advised :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OR4QLHnLF0


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on May 20, 2011, 04:21:38 AM
Yeah, but you have to remebmber that I train every single day. I take a day off maybe once or twice a month, it's part of my OCD/addictive nature, I basically just cant' help myself. So, if I'm gonna be training nearly every single day then I got to be careful about over-training, especially since I'm a lifetime natural. But the good news is, I am now gonna start eating more normally now, meaning more daily cals. I won't over-eat, but I will roughly go from 1200 cals per day to round 2000 cals per day. These extra cals will guard against over-training and also help me to put on some lean muscle tissue, which I am in bad need of. Fuck! I'm even thinkg of making my goal god's high end fatter natural limit, which is 5'11" 180 @ sub-10 ves. 5'11" 165 @ sub-7

I'll be very honest here, I met my ladyfriend last night, and she said that I am looking much slimmer now, but that I'm too slim, and I asked her "So does that mean that you think that I need to have more muscles?" And she said "Yes!" So this has sparked my lean muscle gain project :P

Yeah, I know, brutal letting a woman control you, but hey! At least I'm an honest guy about it...

So, what would you recommend hulkotron? I ask this with sincerity, and I'm trying to humble myself a bit. Remember I must train nearly every single day, there just isn't any other way around it for me.

I would recommend performing a weight training program that isn't a complete waste of time.  Lots of people train a body part every four days with much more volume than you are using.  Trust me, you won't "overtrain" by performing three sets of curls every four days.  Where do you get this stuff?

Since you seem to be training for a woman, do you think women don't like muscular legs? 


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 20, 2011, 04:38:00 AM
I would recommend performing a weight training program that isn't a complete waste of time.  Lots of people train a body part every four days with much more volume than you are using.  Trust me, you won't "overtrain" by performing three sets of curls every four days.  Where do you get this stuff?

Since you seem to be training for a woman, do you think women don't like muscular legs?  

I see your point man, but the thing is these 3 sets will all be work sets, til failure or til near failure. So, in reality I will actually be doing 7 or 8 sets for my curls, since 4 or 5 of the sets are warm-up sets. So my question to you is how many work sets do you think that the bis can stand? And how often do you think that they can be trained?

Yeah, I know that muscular legs are a plus, but I really beileve that my legs get enough training and stimulation from my stair climbing.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 20, 2011, 05:02:26 AM
By the way, I know that Max-OT recommends 6 to 9 work sets per body part, so maybe this is the protocol I should follow? 9 seems a bit much, but I think that 6 work sets could be feasible? In fact blakely recommended 4 to 6 work sets per muscle group.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY6pTgwJv38


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 20, 2011, 06:40:08 AM
I've decided to try GVT with the feet elevated push-ups, and in fact I just finished an "experimental cycle" of them and did 10 sets of 10 reps with 90 sec rest btw sets. The last 3 or 4 sets were a bit harder, but I was able to get through them. So next workout I will do them with the mimimun suggested rest btw sets, which is 60 sec. In fact I may try GVT on the rows too. Remember, my major goal is to build bigger arms and delts, so I'm not so worried about the push-ups and rows...

 8) 8) 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waJ14ozhAkc


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 20, 2011, 10:35:15 AM
Allright, so here's the plan:

Day 1: (back) 1. DB Rows (GVT) 10*10 2. Bent Lateral 4*8

Day 2: (delts) 1. DB Military 4*8 2. Side Lateral 4*8

Day 3: (bis/traps) 1. DB Con curl 4*8 2. DB Shrugs 4*8

Day 4: (tris/chest) 1. DB Tri Ext 4*8 2. Feet Elvated Push-ups (GVT) 10*10

And I'll basically start eating normally, not the starvation 1200 cals a day that I was recently doing. I have eaten junk before (pizza, cheeseburgers, french fries, etc) and stayed lean while doing so, but the thing is that I just didn't eat so much of this junk food. Basically keeping the cals at a reasonable level.

Another thing that I have "remembered" is that a decent level of cals can be eaten regularly while staying lean, but in order to do so you MUST keep activity levels high and jacked FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 20, 2011, 03:20:04 PM
Allright, so here's the plan:

Day 1: (back) 1. DB Rows (GVT) 10*10 2. Bent Lateral 4*8

Day 2: (delts) 1. DB Military 4*8 2. Side Lateral 4*8

Day 3: (bis/traps) 1. DB Con curl 4*8 2. DB Shrugs 4*8

Day 4: (tris/chest) 1. DB Tri Ext 4*8 2. Feet Elvated Push-ups (GVT) 10*10

And I'll basically start eating normally, not the starvation 1200 cals a day that I was recently doing. I have eaten junk before (pizza, cheeseburgers, french fries, etc) and stayed lean while doing so, but the thing is that I just didn't eat so much of this junk food. Basically keeping the cals at a reasonable level.

Another thing that I have "remembered" is that a decent level of cals can be eaten regularly while staying lean, but in order to do so you MUST keep activity levels high and jacked FACT
All numbers bro its all it is simple, now dropping water and such is a different story.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 20, 2011, 10:59:24 PM
Just finished "playing around" with the DB Rows and I loaded up my bell to the max weight which I can put on it, which is 80 pounds, and I did 3*8. None of those sets were taken til failure, but on the last set it was near failure, as I had 1 or maybe 2 more reps in me. 

I just sent my resume to this fitness club here, so if I get this fit trainer job then I'll have access to much more weight and equipment. As it stands I'm ok, coz my main priority now is bigger Delts and Arms and I still got enough weight to use for ma Delts and Arms FACT ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieEvOvdr2Fg

 :)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 21, 2011, 10:13:56 AM
By the way, I'll be posting up some arm pics soon, front bicep and side tricep for both arms. I just started eating normal cals yesterday, and my current goal is to lay down lean muscle tissue without adding fat. Also I took some arm measurements, and they are measuring in at 37.5 cm, which is roughly 14.75 inches.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exw_syw3vVo

 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 22, 2011, 02:47:29 AM
Ok, so here are the arm pics which were taken just yesterday. Sorry bout the not so clear tri shots, but you get the idea.

Pour moi.... Tris+Delts>>>bis :'( :'( :'(


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN-YICwcQPk


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on May 22, 2011, 03:15:09 AM
What a fucked up "regimen" !

*shakes head in bewilderment*


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 22, 2011, 06:29:21 AM
What a fucked up "regimen" !

*shakes head in bewilderment*

Why? I have clearly stated my goals multiple times, and my program is directly taylored to help me obtain those goals, namely larger Arms and Delts. I Know for a fact that the concept of PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD IS THE GOSPEL FOR MAKING LARGER MUSCLES, so I'm trying my best to implement PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD and to take it into action.

P.S. I am looking for help with regards to my bis, since they are clearly behind my tris and delts. And I'm getting this outside help from a silent partner dat I have here on dis board ;)

 8) 8) 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XhrLyJmZwM


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 22, 2011, 09:43:47 AM
Ok, so here's the program that I've come up with after my private consultation with this valued expert here on dis board 8)

Day 1: 1. DB Laterals supersetted with DB Military (2 cycles through)
          2. Bent Lateral 2*8

Day 2: 1. DB Tri Ext supersetted with Feet Elevated Push-ups (2 cycles through)

Day 3: 1. DB Supination Curls supersetted with DB Rows (2 cycles through)
          2. DB Shrug 2*8

I haven't really used this superset training so often, as I generally just stick with straight sets, but upon this private consultation I've decided to give them a run. And technically speaking they aren't really supersets, but the pre-exhustion technique.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 22, 2011, 09:30:59 PM
By the way, I had a dream last night (or maybe it was a nightmare :P ) that I was doing some very heavy sets of DB Squats... Maybe, it's some kinda "call" for me to include them into my suckasss routine ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI3ygbsLgpo


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on May 22, 2011, 11:11:40 PM
Are those upside down photos a joke?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 22, 2011, 11:53:06 PM
Are those upside down photos a joke?

The cam on my phone is malfunctioning, so it takes the photos upside down, but it don't matter none, coz you can still see "the picture" so to speak

P.S. I just finished my Tri workout, and I went from: 65*876 to 65*888 after 3 days btw Tri workouts, so PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD is well into action now 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0EpGrvDXDM


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 24, 2011, 08:45:00 AM
The cam on my phone is malfunctioning, so it takes the photos upside down, but it don't matter none, coz you can still see "the picture" so to speak

P.S. I just finished my Tri workout, and I went from: 65*876 to 65*888 after 3 days btw Tri workouts, so PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD is well into action now 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0EpGrvDXDM

ASSHOLE.....you can rotate the pics with the simplest of programs or apps, and you know this.

Also, funny how someone who is "sub 8%" leaves his tank top on  ::)

This is why i despise you...you are a fucking liar and you think you are cute about it.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: lovemonkey on May 24, 2011, 08:54:52 AM
lmao you're not below 8% bodyfat.

At first I didn't think much about this dj181 guy but now I can't fucking stand him. I see where you're coming from Groink.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 24, 2011, 08:15:12 PM
Well, I've put on at least 5 pounds since Thursday, which hasn't really come as a shock to me, since I've done this same thing many times before... ie. The Rebound Effect ;D But what has shocked me is that my legs are even bigger and thicker than they were before, and I'm doing absolutely no weight training for them :o :o :o

P.S. I may be a bit of a jerk-off, but I ain't no liar FACT I really and sincerely believe that I am sitting @ 8% so if anything I am delusional, but no liar.

P.P.S. I had god (gh15) evaluate my bodyfat level when I claimed to be sitting @ sub-10, and after viewing my pics he confirmed my belief and put me @ 9-10% FACT

I may "look fatter" than I really am but that's only because I'm very flat and depleted from the ultra low cals, and in fact gh15 said this same thing as well when he evaluated my sub-10 pics :-*


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 24, 2011, 09:51:29 PM
Well, I've put on at least 5 pounds since Thursday, which hasn't really come as a shock to me, since I've done this same thing many times before... ie. The Rebound Effect ;D But what has shocked me is that my legs are even bigger and thicker than they were before, and I'm doing absolutely no weight training for them :o :o :o

P.S. I may be a bit of a jerk-off, but I ain't no liar FACT I really and sincerely believe that I am sitting @ 8% so if anything I am delusional, but no liar.

P.P.S. I had god (gh15) evaluate my bodyfat level when I claimed to be sitting @ sub-10, and after viewing my pics he confirmed my belief and put me @ 9-10% FACT

I may "look fatter" than I really am but that's only because I'm very flat and depleted from the ultra low cals, and in fact gh15 said this same thing as well when he evaluated my sub-10 pics :-*

What You are is a delusional  dildo who is his own biggest fan....you go off on these lengthy diatribes about yourself and your "personality"... when nobody is asking or ever responds. Take the hint....youre not as interesting as you think and nobody gives a fuck about you


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 24, 2011, 11:15:47 PM
What You are is a delusional  dildo who is his own biggest fan....you go off on these lengthy diatribes about yourself and your "personality"... when nobody is asking or ever responds. Take the hint....youre not as interesting as you think and nobody gives a fuck about you

What is it with you and this "nobody, nobody" horseshit? Do you think that if you keep trying to drill it into my head that "nobody" likes me, that I will eventually believe it and accept it?

First of all, you are wrong, as there are a few peeps here on dis board dat like me FACT Remember, the world doesn't revolve around you, and just because you think or feel a certain way doesn't mean that everyone else thinks or feels the same way as you do.

Also, if you aren't interested in me then why do you follow my thread, and keep trying to rat-tat-tat away on me? 

P.S. Your "nobody, nobody" horseshit=FAIL
FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on May 25, 2011, 05:09:46 AM
What You are is a delusional  dildo who is his own biggest fan....you go off on these lengthy diatribes about yourself and your "personality"... when nobody is asking or ever responds. Take the hint....youre not as interesting as you think and nobody gives a fuck about you


Damn ;D


.....dis is da fact.he's an idiot with da way he talks ::)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 25, 2011, 05:22:06 AM

Damn ;D


.....dis is da fact.he's an idiot with da way he talks ::)


indeed.....and apparently he thinks none of us have ever heard "get your wings" before.

If you want to pull a rare track of off that record....try "Seasons of wither" you putz  :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2011, 10:54:32 AM
The training is going well, as I am progressively getting bigger and stronger workout by workout FACT

Still can't figure out what the story is with my legs though, since they are bigger also, without even training them ??? Maybe it's just coz my body was starved for the food and nutrients, so once I upped the cals the muscle size went everywhere, including my legs, and not just to my arms and delts. Interesting....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9BQQs7mqkM

"When you said good-bye...you were on the run
Tryin' to get away from the things you've done.
Now you're back again...and you're feeling strange
So much has happended...and nothing has changed.
Still don't know where you're goin'
You're still just a face in the crowd."



Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 25, 2011, 11:12:51 AM
The training is going well, as I am progressively getting bigger and stronger workout by workout FACT

Still can't figure out what the story is with my legs though, since they are bigger also, without even training them ??? Maybe it's just coz my body was starved for the food and nutrients, so once I upped the cals the muscle size went everywhere, including my legs, and not just to my arms and delts. Interesting....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9BQQs7mqkM

"When you said good-bye...you were on the run
Tryin' to get away from the things you've done.
Now you're back again...and you're feeling strange
So much has happended...and nothing has changed.
Still don't know where you're goin'
You're still just a face in the crowd."



HahhaHahahaahaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

You are a useless piece of shit.............FACT

NOBODY gives a fuck about your shitty, useless fucking training blog.....Here's the thing.....YOU have 90% of the posts here....it's not popular, hardly anyone ever posts here....If i didn't come here and own you....it would be even deader, but people are checking in to see my ownages of you, they don't even care about your shitty log.


Your body sucks and you have no muscle, your training sucks assholes and doesn't work.........FACT.

You keep touting GH15 saying you were sub 10....first off, asshole...it's impossible to accurately gauge someone's bodyfat from a shitty pic. he takes a guess you fucking retard.

the fact that you hold onto it like it's an endorsement from the pope shows how friendless and pathetic you really are. You also like to neglect the fact that GH15 also called you a delusional idiot  ;)

You are nowhere near sub 8 you fucking delusional idiot,and you have no muscle to speak of.... I'm more muscular than you and I'm 12%.....You sound like you have mental problems the way you run around here spouting "sub 8.....progressive overload.....sub 8.....progressive overload"  in and endless loop of idiocy.... Are you fucking retarded or something ??  :D

And what's with the fucking videos ?? This isn't MTV and you're not Mark Goodman, you fucking dildo.


Hahahahahaahaahaahaahaah aahaahahaaaaaaaaaaa :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2011, 11:53:15 AM
HahhaHahahaahaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

You are a useless piece of shit.............FACT

NOBODY gives a fuck about your shitty, useless fucking training blog.....Here's the thing.....YOU have 90% of the posts here....it's not popular, hardly anyone ever posts here....If i didn't come here and own you....it would be even deader, but people are checking in to see my ownages of you, they don't even care about your shitty log.


Your body sucks and you have no muscle, your training sucks assholes and doesn't work.........FACT.

You keep touting GH15 saying you were sub 10....first off, asshole...it's impossible to accurately gauge someone's bodyfat from a shitty pic. he takes a guess you fucking retard.

the fact that you hold onto it like it's an endorsement from the pope shows how friendless and pathetic you really are. You also like to neglect the fact that GH15 also called you a delusional idiot  ;)

You are nowhere near sub 8 you fucking delusional idiot,and you have no muscle to speak of.... I'm more muscular than you and I'm 12%.....You sound like you have mental problems the way you run around here spouting "sub 8.....progressive overload.....sub 8.....progressive overload"  in and endless loop of idiocy.... Are you fucking retarded or something ??  :D

And what's with the fucking videos ?? This isn't MTV and you're not Mark Goodman, you fucking dildo.


Hahahahahaahaahaahaahaah aahaahahaaaaaaaaaaa :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

HOLY SHIT CUMFACE!!!!!! :D It really bothers you that I'm MUCH LEANER than you doesn't it FATASS lol

So go ahead and keep telling yourself that you're leaner than me, chubby, and then maybe someday you will actually believe it HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. I AM getting bigger and bigger each and everyday now, and dats no lie, so.....

SUCK MA D!CK guy!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 25, 2011, 12:29:17 PM
HOLY SHIT CUMFACE!!!!!! :D It really bothers you that I'm MUCH LEANER than you doesn't it FATASS lol

So go ahead and keep telling yourself that you're leaner than me, chubby, and then maybe someday you will actually believe it HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. I AM getting bigger and bigger each and everyday now, and dats no lie, so.....

SUCK MA D!CK ####!!!!!!!!!!


 ::) ::)

PS...what are you a fucking queer, asking men to suck your dick ?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Maddy on May 25, 2011, 05:43:37 PM


looks like dj181 owns a plot of real estate deep inside groinks overgrown gh cranium.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 25, 2011, 05:45:15 PM

looks like dj181 owns a plot of real estate deep inside groinks overgrown gh cranium.

No....I just think he's a cockbiting douche, like you


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2011, 08:42:58 PM
No....I just think he's a cockbiting douche, like you

Takes one to know one pukeface. By the way, you are the lying fvcking scumbag, not me. Natural??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!! Now that's just fucking rich, fatass :D

P.S. How's come gh15 doesn't answer your tren question, mr. natural? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 25, 2011, 09:39:04 PM
Takes one to know one pukeface. By the way, you are the lying fvcking scumbag, not me. Natural??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!! Now that's just fucking rich, fatass :D

P.S. How's come gh15 doesn't answer your tren question, mr. natural? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Funny you call me fat when i am clearly displaying better muscularity and separation than you, at over 80 pounds heavier....being lean doesn't mean who has the smallest waist, there are other bodyparts, you idiot  ;)  What you are, is skinny.

100%  natural....It's called GENETICS.

You know.......... one of those terms you endlessly babble on about  ;)  I have them, in spades  8)....you, well, let's just say you look like you were assembled from the spare parts bin  ;)

THAT'S what delts and arms are supposed to look like....not those pathetic peashooters you supposedly are targeting for "specific muscle growth" with your fucking retarded methods.

Maybe if you would shut the fuck up and Train like a normal person instead of thinking you know better, you might actually make some progress.

You see here's the thing....you can TALK about increasing your arm size all day long....or you can get in the fucking gym, get serious... and do it

Oh yeah...you forgot to post a "cool vid"  ::)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 26, 2011, 05:35:54 AM
i am clearly displaying better muscularity and separation than you

That statement right there is complete and utter fucking bullshit! No, you don't have better seperation that I do, you bloofy-ass tool.

SEPERATION>>>>>>>>>bloofy mass FACT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XhrLyJmZwM


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 26, 2011, 08:30:51 AM
That statement right there is complete and utter fucking bullshit! No, you don't have better seperation that I do, you bloofy-ass tool.

SEPERATION>>>>>>>>>bloofy mass FACT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XhrLyJmZwM

No it's not....pictures don't lie.

You can SAY whatever you want, and I know you like to consider yourself one of the "lean and mean" guys, but looking at those two arm shots.....please point out specifically where you are more defined then I am

I know you're getting defensive because Ive been giving you a ton of shit.....but that is a false statement


People resort to calling me "fat" because they really have nothing else to say about me, and i'm not 7% bf ...like everyone here is just ripped to the bone except me  ::)





Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on May 26, 2011, 08:34:43 AM
That statement right there is complete and utter fucking bullshit! No, you don't have better seperation that I do, you bloofy-ass tool.

SEPERATION>>>>>>>>>bloofy mass FACT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XhrLyJmZwM




You're off your fucking rocker if you think you have better seperation then Groink ::)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 26, 2011, 08:54:00 AM
Oh bother! There are at least 4 reasons why I don't "appear" as lean and separated as I really am, so I will try to spell them out for you 2 knuckleheads...

1. I'm white as a ghost, if I would dye my skin I would immediatley appear more seperated FACT

2. I'm holding water from a near starvation "diet" so therefore I'm over-bloated FACT

3. The photo quailty of my camera phone sucks FACT

4. Since my calorie levels are back to a rather normal level now, my muscles are indeed filling out, and therefore my level of seperation has greatly improved over the last few days FACT

Tell you what, next photos I post you will see how much my muscle seperation has improved.

And now take a gander at these two photos once again and tell me I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. THAT IS FUCKING SUB-6 RIGHT THERE WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF SEPERATION


Yeah, yeah! I know that I don't look like that now, but I indeed will, and in fact, I'm not even that far away for that level at the moment, it's just that you dumbasses are too fucking stupid to know better.

And calvin, I've seen your pics and I can say with great certainity that you have NEVER, EVER BEEN SUB-6, much less sub-8 even HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on May 26, 2011, 10:26:40 AM
You look like a skinny twink in those pics that you love to post over,and over,and over,again,and again ::)

Groinks triceps are bigger and more seperated then your whole arm.

I look a hell of a lot better then you.

....you're right about being less the sub 8%.why would I ever want to be that low in bodyfat ???


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 26, 2011, 10:39:41 AM
You look like a skinny twink in those pics that you love to post over,and over,and over,again,and again ::)

Groinks triceps are bigger and more seperated then your whole arm.

I look a hell of a lot better then you.

....you're right about being less the sub 8%.why would I ever want to be that low in bodyfat ???


Indeed.

This is textbook delusional.

We look at those pics and see a skinny guy who dieted down. He's not particularly aesthetic,has zero thickness.. and has no bodyparts worth mentioning...he's just at a low BF%. which is cool, it's not easy to do.

He looks at those pics and sees the second coming of Frank Zane.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 26, 2011, 10:44:10 AM
I look a hell of a lot better then you.


BULLSHIT! You've got a thick wide-ass waist on ya with wide-ass hips :D

You hips are as wide as your shoulders pear-body HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 26, 2011, 10:51:25 AM
BULLSHIT! You've got a thick wide-ass waist on ya with wide-ass hips :D

You hips are as wide as your shoulders pear-body HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

He looks better than you. I've seen his pics. He actually carries MUSCLE too, which you wouldn't know anything about...tiny.

PS  your waist isn't narrow at all....you think you are something you're not


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on May 26, 2011, 10:56:10 AM
He looks better than you. I've seen his pics. He actually carries MUSCLE too, which you wouldn't know anything about...tiny.

PS  your waist isn't narrow at all....you think you are something you're not


It's amazing he can see through shirts to see how wide my waist is ::)
I guess it never occurred to him that some people wear larger shirts so they don't look like a meathead.


.....not everyone try's to look bigger by trying to put on a smedium t-shirt ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 26, 2011, 11:03:02 AM

It's amazing he can see through shirts to see how wide my waist is ::)
I guess it never occurred to him that some people wear larger shirts so they don't look like a meathead.


.....not everyone try's to look bigger by trying to put on a smedium t-shirt ;D

Well I would imagine if you are a human Pelican like this douche, your whole life revolves around trying to appear bigger than you are...it must suck to be a skinny little piece of shit that can never get big and muscular no matter how hard he tries, and then you put that huge nose on top of it........oh brother, poor guy


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 26, 2011, 11:06:51 AM

It's amazing he can see through shirts to see how wide my waist is ::)
I guess it never occurred to him that some people wear larger shirts so they don't look like a meathead.


.....not everyone try's to look bigger by trying to put on a smedium t-shirt ;D

You have some shirtless pics in the soapy studs thread chump, so it ain't jus ma imagination


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 26, 2011, 11:11:04 AM
Well I would imagine if you are a human Pelican like this douche, your whole life revolves around trying to appear bigger than you are...it must suck to be a skinny little piece of shit that can never get big and muscular no matter how hard he tries, and then you put that huge nose on top of it........oh brother, poor guy

I'm not trying to get big and muscular ASSWIPE

165 @ sub-7 fuckbreath, and dats ma goal
 
And fuck off, with your "bigness" as YOU ARE CLEARLY NOT NATURAL, you lying son of a b!tch!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 26, 2011, 11:14:59 AM
You have some shirtless pics in the soapy studs thread chump, so it ain't jus ma imagination

Yeah he does....and looks better than you at your "best"....because, AGAIN, he carries MUSCLE.  you are just some skinny motherfukker who thinks he's all that.

I'm done even talking about you comparing yourself to me or Calvin. It's retarded, you are nowhere near either one of us......... and I'm through indulging your idiocy.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 26, 2011, 11:20:13 AM
I'm not trying to get big and muscular ASSWIPE

165 @ sub-7 fuckbreath, and dats ma goal
 
And fuck off, with your "bigness" as YOU ARE CLEARLY NOT NATURAL, you lying son of a b!tch!

Well you are on the right track then, don't change a thing  :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on May 26, 2011, 11:20:57 AM
You have some shirtless pics in the soapy studs thread chump, so it ain't jus ma imagination


You're right.but only one shows me from the front and at my weight of around 200lbs-205lbs I still have better abs then the shot of you that you always post ;)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on May 26, 2011, 11:23:25 AM
Well you are on the right track then, don't change a thing  :D



Not really,he still needs to gain 17 lbs ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 26, 2011, 11:43:54 AM
The funny thing is, I GUAREEN-GODDAMN-TEE that if we all posted up our "peak" photos on a site with attractive, model-type females and had them choose which fella that they would most want to have sex with that the vast majority of these females would choose me over both of you chumps GUAREEN-GODDAMN-TEED

P.S. groin even with my big nose I am still more facially handsome than you are turd face :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 26, 2011, 11:51:52 AM
The funny thing is, I GUAREEN-GODDAMN-TEE that if we all posted up our "peak" photos on a site with attractive, model-type females and had them choose which fella that they would most want to have sex with that the vast majority of these females would choose me over both of you chumps GUAREEN-GODDAMN-TEED

P.S. groin even with my big nose I am still more facially handsome than you are turd face :D

No....you're not, baldie  ;)  keep telling yourself that. I'm much better looking than you, ask any woman on this site

As far as females.....Let's both post pics of our PRESENT GF's .....shall we  :D

Anything else you want to post and have shoved right down your throat ??


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 26, 2011, 11:55:40 AM
I'm much better looking than you

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! Yeah right, assface :D

Sexy and gorgeous women much prefer my body type to yours sh!thead :D

CONDITIONING>>>>>bloofy mass


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 26, 2011, 12:23:29 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! Yeah right, assface :D

Sexy and gorgeous women much prefer my body type to yours sh!thead :D

CONDITIONING>>>>>bloofy mass

let's see your girl....put up or shut up.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 26, 2011, 12:40:18 PM
Hello?







Hello ???


yeah that's what i figured  8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 27, 2011, 11:41:32 PM
Here's some words of wisdom for god hisseslf 8)


1) bigger arms is more a matter of training than a matter of calories.

2) the less exercises you will do the bigger your arms will get.

3) the more exercises of the "less exercises" done correctly, the bigger your arms will continue to get.

4) work heavy but only as heavy as you can go correctly! work to failure! it might be 12 reps or 9 reps or 6 reps as long as muscle fails.

5) 2 sets each exercise/ 3exercises bicep ans 3exercises triceps. all 6 done in the same workout session.

6) i suggest following routine: monday-arms/tuesday-legs/wed off/thursday-back/friday-chest and shoulders/ sat-sun off


So, I'm already following a few of them and I will attempt to follow most if not all of them. The only problem is me and my obsessive "drive" as I just can't seem not to take a day off from training. It's either all or nothing for me in most cases. About da only thing dat I can control is ma gambling. When I go to the casino to play blackjack I can easily quit and walk away from the table when I need to.


gods recommendation is a 2on/1off split with 6 work sets per muscle group, but I just can't seeing myself taking a day off from training. Anyways, I'm still making progres in spite of myself, for example my curls are up from 40 pounds for 5 reps to 45 pounds for 6 reps FACT :P

REMEMBER.... A stronger muscle IS a bigger muscle 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSVjwbiXRvI


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: lovemonkey on May 28, 2011, 12:46:19 AM
Here's some words of wisdom for god hisseslf 8)


1) bigger arms is more a matter of training than a matter of calories.

2) the less exercises you will do the bigger your arms will get.

3) the more exercises of the "less exercises" done correctly, the bigger your arms will continue to get.

4) work heavy but only as heavy as you can go correctly! work to failure! it might be 12 reps or 9 reps or 6 reps as long as muscle fails.

5) 2 sets each exercise/ 3exercises bicep ans 3exercises triceps. all 6 done in the same workout session.

6) i suggest following routine: monday-arms/tuesday-legs/wed off/thursday-back/friday-chest and shoulders/ sat-sun off


So, I'm already following a few of them and I will attempt to follow most if not all of them. The only problem is me and my obsessive "drive" as I just can't seem not to take a day off from training. It's either all or nothing for me in most cases. About da only thing dat I can control is ma gambling. When I go to the casino to play blackjack I can easily quit and walk away from the table when I need to.


gods recommendation is a 2on/1off split with 6 work sets per muscle group, but I just can't seeing myself taking a day off from training. Anyways, I'm still making progres in spite of myself, for example my curls are up from 40 pounds for 5 reps to 45 pounds for 6 reps FACT :P

REMEMBER.... A stronger muscle IS a bigger muscle 8)

Work out the entire body you big flaming vagina.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 28, 2011, 12:59:35 AM
Work out the entire body you big flaming vagina.

P.S. Ma Arms and Delts (in particular ma Tris and Delts) already pwn da living shit out of yours, and they are only going to pwn them even moreso here in the near coming future stick-boy :-*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMX0ad8sfRw


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: lovemonkey on May 28, 2011, 01:24:07 AM
P.S. Ma Arms and Delts (in particular ma Tris and Delts) already pwn da living shit out of yours, and they are only going to pwn them even moreso here in the near coming future stick-boy :-*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMX0ad8sfRw

Alright vagina, the challenge is on. My arms are bigger than yours and my bodyfat is lower as well. Post a proper picture(not fucking upside down you loser) and we'll see who's the bitch. Got abs?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 28, 2011, 02:56:04 AM
Alright vagina, the challenge is on. My arms are bigger than yours and my bodyfat is lower as well. Post a proper picture(not fucking upside down you loser) and we'll see who's the bitch. Got abs?

It doesn't matter who has the biggest arms cum-guzzeler, what matters is who has the best looking arms. FYI, my arms and delts LOOK MUCH BETTER than your skinny twigs fvckface. It's not just about the size asswipe, its' about the shape, seperation, and conditon. I'll post up new pics when I'm ready to, and not before, so don't you fucking try and tell me what to do shit-head

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsvyrAEXT-E


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: lovemonkey on May 28, 2011, 04:21:23 AM
It doesn't matter who has the biggest arms cum-guzzeler, what matters is who has the best looking arms. FYI, my arms and delts LOOK MUCH BETTER than your skinny twigs fvckface. It's not just about the size asswipe, its' about the shape, seperation, and conditon. I'll post up new pics when I'm ready to, and not before, so don't you fucking try and tell me what to do shit-head

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsvyrAEXT-E


hahahaha all talk and no walk! Who would've guessed? You look like fucking shit. Shape, separation and condition? You've got NONE of those, you need actual muscle to qualify for any of them. I'm a goddamn swimmer and still own your flabby ass.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 28, 2011, 04:36:12 AM

hahahaha all talk and no walk! Who would've guessed? You look like fucking shit. Shape, separation and condition? You've got NONE of those, you need actual muscle to qualify for any of them. I'm a goddamn swimmer and still own your flabby ass.

Wake the fuck up chump! Coz you in dream land if you think dat you got me beat on shape, separation and condition. Even though the tri/delt pic ain't so clear anyone with an objective eye can clearly see that I got you beat on those 3 elements shit-head. I will guareen-goddamn-tee you that the muscles in my arms and delts are MUCH HARDER than yours, (you calling me flabby, now that's rich, softie) you are fucking clueless cum-breath.

P.S. I said someone with an objective eye, not ashholes who have some emotional involvement in this thing like tweetle-dee (calvin) and tweetle-dum (groin).


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: lovemonkey on May 28, 2011, 05:18:24 AM
Wake the fuck up chump! Coz you in dream land if you think dat you got me beat on shape, separation and condition. Even though the tri/delt pic ain't so clear anyone with an objective eye can clearly see that I got you beat on those 3 elements shit-head. I will guareen-goddamn-tee you that the muscles in my arms and delts are MUCH HARDER than yours, (you calling me flabby, now that's rich, softie) you are fucking clueless cum-breath.

P.S. I said someone with an objective eye, not ashholes who have some emotional involvement in this thing like tweetle-dee (calvin) and tweetle-dum (groin).

hahahaha you have yet to produce a SINGLE picture of your current self that displays any sort of fitness whatsoever. Are you fucking high man? You have no shape, no separation, no nothing. You can repeat your mantra all you want, you're still all talk. Phase 1 here and Phase 2 there... to look like shit. If that wasn't bad enough you also workout like a big stinking vagina.

Never mind arms, are your abs even slightly visible? What about those legs, lmao!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 28, 2011, 06:03:18 AM
Never mind arms, are your abs even slightly visible? What about those legs, lmao!

HOLY FUCK!!! Do I have to tattoo this on you fellas fucking foreheads?! I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK ABOUT MY LEG DEVELOPEMENT, and as far as abs go, I'm not worried about having any "washboard abs". I'm just fine with having Boyer Coe-like abs, really, and honestly I am ;D So don't go projecting your wants and/or needs upon me, of what you think I should look like (and when I say you I mean this in the general sense, not just a one person you, but whoever tries to project their wants and/or needs upon me as to what they think I should look like). So don't try and hang your fucking signs on me ie. you need to train legs, you need washboard abs, etc.

And for the last fucking time here is exactly what I want: SHAPED, SEPERATED, AND CONDITIONED ARMS AND DELTS with the following stats: 165 @ 8% with 16 inch arms

And if you don't think that my tris and delts already have a bit of shape and separation, well then you are either a total fucking idiot, or you're are just trying to talk shit to me and try and "pysche" me out. Which by the way, will fail miserably.

So lay the fuck off this abs and legs shit! Coz you ain't gonna hang dat sign on me, and get me to follow your own beliefs on what YOU think looks best (again YOU is meant in the general sense).

P.S. My arms are now slightly over 15 inches round, and just last week they were 14.75 inches 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olbmJMJA4Lc

"When he tried to hang that sign on me, I said... "Take it down!" ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: lovemonkey on May 28, 2011, 06:07:43 AM
HOLY FUCK!!! Do I have to tattoo this on you fellas fucking foreheads?! I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK ABOUT MY LEG DEVELOPEMENT, and as far as abs go, I'm not worried about having any "washboard abs". I'm just fine with having Boyer Coe-like abs, really, and honestly I am ;D So don't go projecting your wants and/or needs upon me, of what you think I should look like (and when I say you I mean this in the general sense, not just a one person you, but whoever tries to project their wants and/or needs upon me as to what they think I should look like). So don't try and hang your fucking signs on me ie. you need to train legs, you need washboard abs, etc.

And for the last fucking time here is exactly what I want: SHAPED, SEPERATED, AND CONDITIONED ARMS AND DELTS with the following stats: 165 @ 8% with 16 inch arms

And if you don't think that my tris and delts already have a bit of shape and separation, well then you are either a total fucking idiot, or you're are just trying to talk shit to me and try and "pysche" me out. Which by the way, will fail miserably.

So lay the fuck off this abs and legs shit! Coz you ain't gonna hang dat sign on me, and get me to follow your own beliefs on what YOU think looks best (again YOU is meant in the general sense).

P.S. My arms are now slightly over 15 inches round, and just last week they were 14.75 inches 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olbmJMJA4Lc

"When he tried to hang that sign on me, I said... "Take it down!" ;D

My arms are 16 inches with visible tricep striations and I've got a nice set of abs. Although it doesn't show much in the pictures, my veins are starting to pop out as well. You're a fucking loser.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 28, 2011, 06:21:19 AM
My arms are 16 inches with visible tricep striations and I've got a nice set of abs. Although it doesn't show much in the pictures, my veins are starting to pop out as well. You're a fucking loser.

We will see who has the last laugh, within a few months time shit-head :D And you don't have a nice set of abs, they are average at best fuckface


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: lovemonkey on May 28, 2011, 06:24:07 AM
We will see who has the last laugh, within a few months time shit-head :D And you don't have a nice set of abs, they are average at best fuckface

hahahahah it's always "in a few months time". Damn vagina.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 28, 2011, 07:37:45 AM
It seems dj 181 has gone from being a harmless idiot to an obnoxious idiot.

He sounds EXACTLY like BFRS....showing a picture of a "nothing" build, and talking so much ridiculous bullshit about it.....it boggles the mind.

It's obvious he's gone over the top and is just lashing out like a hurt schoolgirl that everyone ridicules.....Maybe i owned him too thoroughly  ???

PS.....your physique destroys his, it's NO CONTEST.

even at his "peak" he was just a skinny turd with zero muscle and a giant nose, 13 years later he's devovled into a bald, feeble retard with a giant nose who lives in the past.

He should post a james taylor video, because that's what he looks like HahHahahahaahaahahaahaha a  :D :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 28, 2011, 08:02:51 AM
It seems dj 181 has gone from being a harmless idiot to an obnoxious idiot.

He sounds EXACTLY like BFRS....showing a picture of a "nothing" build, and talking so much ridiculous bullshit about it.....it boggles the mind.

It's obvious he's gone over the top and is just lashing out like a hurt schoolgirl that everyone ridicules.....Maybe i owned him too thoroughly  ???

PS.....your physique destroys his, it's NO CONTEST.

even at his "peak" he was just a skinny turd with zero muscle and a giant nose, 13 years later he's devovled into a bald, feeble retard with a giant nose who lives in the past.

He should post a james taylor video, because that's what he looks like HahHahahahaahaahahaahaha a  :D :D


And here comes tweedle-dum to try and put me down HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Try harder shit for brains, coz it ain't working :D

You are a lying sack of shit! Natural ma ass!!!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: chaos on May 28, 2011, 08:41:33 AM
Do you mean something like:

Day 1: chest

Day 2: back

Day 3: delts

Day 4: bis

Day 5: tris

Day 6: traps

Something like this?
Where are the legs?

But yeah, if you followed that program it would be a week before you trained each bodypart again, that gives plenty of time for recovery and allows you to actually do mor ethan one exercise per bodypart, cause thats about the dumbest thing I have ever read.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 28, 2011, 08:58:46 AM

And here comes tweedle-dum to try and put me down HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Try harder shit for brains, coz it ain't working :D

You are a lying sack of shit! Natural ma ass!!!

You are bald and have a big nose....you have shitty arms and delts.

My arms and delts are world class, and my hair takes an hour to dry its so thick.....hahahahaaaaa.. .I am superior to you in every single facet of life.  Killing yourself is a viable option.....you microscopic penis flake  :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 28, 2011, 09:23:26 AM
You are bald and have a big nose....you have shitty arms and delts.

My arms and delts are world class, and my hair takes an hour to dry its so thick.....hahahahaaaaa.. .I am superior to you in every single facet of life.  Killing yourself is a viable option and I would smile if you were dead

What a delusional piece of shit you are. "Superiour to me in every single facet of life" ::)

BULL-FUCKING-SHIT ASSHOLE :D

I am MUCH MORE intelligent than you are pea-brain, and I'm also not a liar scumbag like you are penis-breath.

These arms and delts that you speak so highly come from the chemicals that you inject into yourself shithead.

And you won't be able to smile when I pass, coz YOU will already have been dead for awhile by the time that I pass on Old Man :-*


And like the Dead said:


"There may come a day when I'll dance on your grave
Unable to dance I'll still crawl across it
Unable to dance I'll still crawl
Unable to dance I'll still crawl
Unable to dance I'll crawl"


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 28, 2011, 11:49:02 AM
What a delusional piece of shit you are. "Superiour to me in every single facet of life" ::)

BULL-FUCKING-SHIT ASSHOLE :D

I am MUCH MORE intelligent than you are pea-brain, and I'm also not a liar scumbag like you are penis-breath.

These arms and delts that you speak so highly come from the chemicals that you inject into yourself shithead.

And you won't be able to smile when I pass, coz YOU will already have been dead for awhile by the time that I pass on Old Man :-*


And like the Dead said:


"There may come a day when I'll dance on your grave
Unable to dance I'll still crawl across it
Unable to dance I'll still crawl
Unable to dance I'll still crawl
Unable to dance I'll crawl"


OMG....keep singing songs you little fairy  ::)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: kevinf on May 28, 2011, 07:27:41 PM
HahhaHahahaahaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

You are a useless piece of shit.............FACT

NOBODY gives a fuck about your shitty, useless fucking training blog.....Here's the thing.....YOU have 90% of the posts here....it's not popular, hardly anyone ever posts here....If i didn't come here and own you....it would be even deader, but people are checking in to see my ownages of you, they don't even care about your shitty log.


Your body sucks and you have no muscle, your training sucks assholes and doesn't work.........FACT.

You keep touting GH15 saying you were sub 10....first off, asshole...it's impossible to accurately gauge someone's bodyfat from a shitty pic. he takes a guess you fucking retard.

the fact that you hold onto it like it's an endorsement from the pope shows how friendless and pathetic you really are. You also like to neglect the fact that GH15 also called you a delusional idiot  ;)

You are nowhere near sub 8 you fucking delusional idiot,and you have no muscle to speak of.... I'm more muscular than you and I'm 12%.....You sound like you have mental problems the way you run around here spouting "sub 8.....progressive overload.....sub 8.....progressive overload"  in and endless loop of idiocy.... Are you fucking retarded or something ??  :D

And what's with the fucking videos ?? This isn't MTV and you're not Mark Goodman, you fucking dildo.


Hahahahahaahaahaahaahaah aahaahahaaaaaaaaaaa :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

LMFAO!!! i just tuned into this thread. Your ownings of DJ in this thread are making this thread the funniest shit i have seen in a while on GB! He went from his "cool" online persona in the beginning of this thread to a complete meltdown fag by the end.
 continue


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 28, 2011, 09:22:23 PM
OMG....keep singing songs you little fairy  ::)

And keep on lying about your natural status ::) Or better yet try and "psyche" me out with your "everybody, nobody" horseshit :D

P.S. How'd you make out with your attempts to drive me off this board, cumstain :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 28, 2011, 10:26:45 PM
And keep on lying about your natural status ::) Or better yet try and "psyche" me out with your "everybody, nobody" horseshit :D

P.S. How'd you make out with your attempts to drive me off this board, cumstain :D
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You think I want you to.leave?  Lolol ....I'm just starting to enjoy this   :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 28, 2011, 11:19:28 PM
And keep on lying about your natural status ::) Or better yet try and "psyche" me out with your "everybody, nobody" horseshit :D

P.S. How'd you make out with your attempts to drive me off this board, cumstain :D
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You think I want you to.leave?  Lolol ....I'm just starting to enjoy this   :D

We will see how much you enjoy it once I achieve my goals asswipe :D

And as each day passes I just keep on getting closer and closer to these goals 8) In fact, just today I went up 3 reps on ma Delts exercises :-*

Remember, a STRONGER MUSCLE IS A BIGGER MUSCLE :-*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW72Gmqjse4


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 29, 2011, 12:17:33 AM
Just a little side note to others who may be following this here thread. There are a few main reasons for my change in character, and as to the reason why I am now fighting back against these fucking cocksuckers who fuck wit me. And yes, I know that there are a few followers here, irregardless of this lying scumbag attempts to convince me wit his... everybody, nobody, blah*blah*blah horseshit :D

So here are a few reasons to explain this change in behavior

1. I am eating at a normal cal level now, so therefore my energy levels have greatly improved.

2. As my level of conditioning has improved, so has my level of confidence.

3. I actually use these shitheads for my benefit, coz when I train I use my hatred for them to drive my training even further and further 8) lol all ya want, but believe me HATRED, RAGE, and ANGER are GREAT TRAINING MOTIVATORS... FACT  ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 29, 2011, 01:30:22 AM
Here's an update from my training log with regards to a few of the exercises that I do:

1. Weighted Dips: have gone from BW+40*7 to BW+70*8

2. DB Overhead Tri Ext: have gone from 60*5 to 70*6

3. DB Con Curl: have gone from 35*5 to 45*7

4. DB Side Lateral: have gone from 20*6 to 30*8

This progress has occured over the last 3 weeks ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 29, 2011, 04:17:17 AM
Here's an update from my training log with regards to a few of the exercises that I do:

1. Weighted Dips: have gone from BW+40*7 to BW+70*8

2. DB Overhead Tri Ext: have gone from 60*5 to 70*6

3. DB Con Curl: have gone from 35*5 to 45*7

4. DB Side Lateral: have gone from 20*6 to 30*8

This progress has occured over the last 3 weeks ;D

Wow....you're a beast  :D  you're almost as strong as me when i was 14  :D :D

Plus you have a big nose and a bald head......hahahaahahaaha haaaaaaa.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 29, 2011, 05:03:55 AM
Wow....you're a beast  :D  you're almost as strong as me when i was 14  :D :D

Plus you have a big nose and a bald head......hahahaahahaaha haaaaaaa.

Try harder laughing BOY :D

You are a lying scumbag, natutral ma ass!!!!

Anyways thanks for fueling my training you stupid fucking pea-brained pigeon :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 29, 2011, 07:59:50 AM
Try harder laughing BOY :D

You are a lying scumbag, natutral ma ass!!!!

Anyways thanks for fueling my training you stupid fucking pea-brained pigeon :D



Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 29, 2011, 09:09:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zT20nJ6hkU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4Y9JwY8pEk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh0iihjANPc


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 30, 2011, 12:56:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zT20nJ6hkU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4Y9JwY8pEk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh0iihjANPc

You really just changed which pointless video you have up ??

what was that one "sending the wrong message" ??  ::)  

Seriously......what's with the endless fucking videos ? I'm curios, are you trying to impress us with your taste in music ?  are you "telling a story" with music ?  what's the point?

My opinion is you know that the VAST majority thinks you're a dick at this point, and you will never be a well liked guy around here....so now you are just trying to be an annoying prick by constantly doing the things people don't like about you.  :)



Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on May 30, 2011, 07:08:06 PM
Dj is your life that empty that you have to use antagonistic posts from "the haters" on getbig.com for motivation in the gym?

Plenty of folks piss me off on here but that's where it stays (on here).  Doing otherwise is not a healthy lifestyle choice.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 30, 2011, 10:14:46 PM
what was that one "sending the wrong message" ??  ::)  

Seriously......what's with the endless fucking videos ? I'm curios, are you trying to impress us with your taste in music ?  are you "telling a story" with music ?  what's the point?






Molly Hachet's tune was a dead link for some reason, so I changed da tune.

I post these vids FOR ME AND ONLY FOR ME, I'm not trying to impress anyone by them or make them like me FACT You see I have this thread up while I am doing ma home training, so I can listen to these tunes as I see fit


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvDYyyGu66Y


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7-e6Yhu5SU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l9ZbnzUUKg


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 30, 2011, 10:23:33 PM
Dj is your life that empty that you have to use antagonistic posts from "the haters" on getbig.com for motivation in the gym?

Plenty of folks piss me off on here but that's where it stays (on here).  Doing otherwise is not a healthy lifestyle choice.

You're probably right about that dude, but there are 4 kinds of motivation:

1. Positive-High Energy (the ideal)

2. Negative-High Energy (the easiest for me to summon forth)

3. Positive-Low Energy (not bad, but not good for productive training)

4. Negative-Low Energy (the worst)

And for me this "Postive High-Energy" is very elusive... Just being honest dude


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2011, 12:38:46 AM
Just finished Bi training and I went up 2 reps on ma exercises ;D

REMEMBER: STRONGER MUSCLE=BIGGER MUSCLE FACT

On a side note, I'm starting to max out ma weight potential here at ma place, so hopefully I'll get a call for this Fit Trainer job, as then I will have access to more weights. You see the problem with da gyms here is that there are really only 2 kinds of gyms:

1. Expensive gyms that require an initiation fee and a 1-year contract (these are the ones I'm trying to get a job with, and there are 3 of them here in ma city)

2. Holes in the wall wit shit and broken down equipment. They are cheap, but the equipment sucks ass :-\

But who knows... Once I actually do "max out" my weight potential here at ma place I may have already acheived ma goals by then

165 @ sub-8 wit 16 inch CONDITIONED ARMS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILpV1NTS5yc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woaXBN12GCg


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2011, 02:47:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS513FRfbwE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq6pZZYgGJk


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on May 31, 2011, 06:02:48 AM
Why do you type like an idiot ???




Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: w8m8 on May 31, 2011, 06:07:51 AM
Why do you type like an idiot ???




I think that question has been asked several times .. he says it's his internet persona


methinks he thinks it's cool / funny / and knows it's annoying  :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on May 31, 2011, 06:12:30 AM
I think that question has been asked several times .. he says it's his interent persona


methinks he thinks it's cool / funny / and knows it's annoying  :D


Problem is its none of the above....makes him look like an idiot.


....he should just post normal.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: w8m8 on May 31, 2011, 06:13:39 AM

Problem is its none of the above....makes him look like an idiot.


....he should just post normal.

and stop adding stupid videos to every post


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on May 31, 2011, 06:15:24 AM
and stop adding stupid videos to every post


and stop saying how much his muscles are filling in after one week of trying something different.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: w8m8 on May 31, 2011, 06:18:26 AM

and stop saying how much his muscles are filling in after one week of trying something different.

and stop saying he's going to be sub whatever bodyfat percentage he picks this week


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on May 31, 2011, 06:34:56 AM
and stop saying he's going to be sub whatever bodyfat percentage he picks this week


and start doing legs.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: w8m8 on May 31, 2011, 06:38:26 AM

and start doing legs.

and start thinking of finding a hobby that will take his mind off being a reverse version of Fatpanda


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2011, 06:46:16 AM
I think that question has been asked several times .. he says it's his internet persona


methinks he thinks it's cool / funny / and knows it's annoying  :D

Dats a spot on post actually :P So do y'all come here for approval and to get "others" to like you?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2011, 06:53:05 AM

and start doing legs.

Remember, I have clearly defined goals,and bigger legs don't fit into that equation, so therefore there is no need to train them.

Here's a clue for ya, I was a pretty damn good athlete in ma younger days ie. I ran 800 meters in under 2 min, 1:56 to be exact. And I also played plenty of basketball up until the age of 21 when I fucked my knee up REAL BAD and had to have 2 major surgeries on it. It never recovered fully, and therefore my lower left quad and calf are nearly an inch smaller on this knee than on the good knee.

Anyways, this previous athletic backround of mine left me with decent legs, and I'm just fine with the way that they are looking.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2011, 06:57:34 AM
and start thinking of finding a hobby that will take his mind off being a reverse version of Fatpanda

I really don't think you know what a very lean and conditoned physique looks like. Many peeps talk about numbers, like 165 pounds is aneroxic. Well, let me tell ya something...

There is a HUGE FUCKING DIFFERNCE btw 165 @ 12% and 165 @ 7% HUUUUUUGGGGEEEE DIFFERENCE

P.S. gh15 is in complete agreement with me on this point, as he has pointed it out many times in the past ie. Frank Zane @ 185 mops the floors with 220 pound bobybuilders


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2011, 07:19:04 AM
And one more thing regarding this size/mass thing. Yeah I know that I'm a bit delusional, but I'm not completely off of my rocker, at least not yet anyways lol

So it basically comes down to something like this. I know that I will never be a "Big guy" coz I basically have bird joints, my wrists measure 6.25 inches for fucks sake! So it's litterally impossible for a slight framed fella like me to be a "Big guy" it just ain't gonna happen, especially since I will stay and remain a lifetime natural.

And another thing is that I'm thinking about getting back into doing bench press comps, and if I do that I want to stay within the lighter weight classes ie. 148's and 165's

I can make the 148's weighing up to 160, as I am able to drop 12 pounds in under 24 hours. Remember, I was taught by one of the kings of the bench, Mr. JM Blakely, and through him and his knowledge I know some tricks of the trade regarding making weight


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on May 31, 2011, 07:36:02 AM
Remember, I have clearly defined goals,and bigger legs don't fit into that equation, so therefore there is no need to train them.

Here's a clue for ya, I was a pretty damn good athlete in ma younger days ie. I ran 800 meters in under 2 min, 1:56 to be exact. And I also played plenty of basketball up until the age of 21 when I fucked my knee up REAL BAD and had to have 2 major surgeries on it. It never recovered fully, and therefore my lower left quad and calf are nearly an inch smaller on this knee than on the good knee.

Anyways, this previous athletic backround of mine left me with decent legs, and I'm just fine with the way that they are looking.



Not saying they have to be huge but in step with your upper body.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2011, 07:56:08 AM


Not saying they have to be huge but in step with your upper body.

Allright, fair enough. Currently they measure in at 22 inches, which ain't so bad when you take into account my 15 inch arms.

I think a good arm-to-leg ratio is 1.5, meaning the leg should measure 1.5 what the arm measures. For example, a 16 inch arm would equate to a 24 inch leg ie. 16x1.5=24

And with my 15 inch arms, 22 inch thighs are near spot on. 15x1.5=22.5


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: w8m8 on May 31, 2011, 07:56:43 AM
So do y'all come here for approval and to get "others" to like you?


lolololololololersssssss ssssssssssssssssssss ... you have no clue about how little that matters to me .. but I can see you need that .. I'm here for the few people left that keep the place interesting and fun .. you don't do either one



I really don't think you know what a very lean and conditoned physique looks like. Many peeps talk about numbers, like 165 pounds is aneroxic.

get real ... Xerses is a fine speciman of lean and fit .. you look malnourished and weak .. sorry



Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2011, 08:41:48 AM

you look malnourished and weak .. sorry



Of course I do, coz that's EXACTLY what happened to me due to my near starvation diet of 500-700 cals on a near daily basis, but I did that just to get lean enough sub-10, and then I took it down even further to 8-9%. Now I'm on a gaining phase, and I'm filling out rather nicely 8) Also, my bodyfat is staying low, as my stratus anterior is clearly visible through my skin, which is a STRONG INDICATION that my bodyfat is still within the 8-9% range even though I've gained over 7 pounds since starting my gaining phase (which I started less than 2 weeks ago) ;D Also, my waist is still at 30 inches, another clear indicator that my bodyfat hasn't increased with this 7 pound plus gain.

What I can say is just wait til I finish this project, which will happen either by late July or late August, as at that time I will post up a comparative back double bi, and then you will see what a huge difference small numbers can make ;D For example I was 154 @ 9-10 in my last back double bi pic posted here, and lets' say that I end up only being 160 @ 6-7, instead of 165. Well then it will still be demonstrated what a huge difference small number manipulations can make. ie. 154 @ 10% vs. 160 @ 7%


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: w8m8 on May 31, 2011, 08:55:03 AM
Of course I do, coz that's EXACTLY what happened to me due to my near starvation diet of 500-700 cals on a near daily basis, but I did that just to get lean enough sub-10, and then I took it down even further to 8-9%. Now I'm on a gaining phase, and I'm filling out rather nicely 8) Also, my bodyfat is staying low, as my stratus anterior is clearly visible through my skin, which is a STRONG INDICATION that my bodyfat is still within the 8-9% range even though I've gained over 7 pounds since starting my gaining phase (which I started less than 2 weeks ago) ;D Also, my waist is still at 30 inches, another clear indicator that my bodyfat hasn't increased with this 7 pound plus gain.

What I can say is just wait til I finish this project, which will happen either by late July or late August, as at that time I will post up a comparative back double bi, and then you will see what a huge difference small numbers can make ;D For example I was 154 @ 9-10 in my last back double bi pic posted here, and lets' say that I end up only being 160 @ 6-7, instead of 165. Well then it will still be demonstrated what a huge difference small number manipulations can make. ie. 154 @ 10% vs. 160 @ 7%


Have you ever tried posting at BBPro .. Matt would love you  :D



You do go on a lot and say basically the same thing over and over

I'll see what you bring when your time comes .. even if it's September or October when you finish this "project"..  make sure the pictures don't have complimentary shadows or have you sticking out your stomach <- both of which you have done already


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2011, 09:56:45 AM
Allright, so here's a pic of me when I was near peak, with my legs in full view. This pic was taken about 3 or 4 months before my other peak pics. In this pic I'm weighing 158. As I said brutal left quad and calf :-X


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2011, 10:29:05 AM
Allright, so here's a pic of me when I was near peak, with my legs in full view. This pic was taken about 3 or 4 months before my other peak pics. In this pic I'm weighing 158. As I said brutal left quad and calf :-X
Thighs not too bad compared to upper body. Need to add some calf raises.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 31, 2011, 10:50:22 AM
That pic just proves my point....you are delusional ...which is also something your hero GH15 said about you. You're a skinny guy. Nothing more, and that's you at your " peak".....nothing impressive at all....not one single bodypart you can say "you have good xxxx". You're just thin....big fucking deal.

And yes ....pretty obvious the VAST majority here thinks you are an utter moron....with the imbecilic "sub 8......progressive overload....sub 8.....progressive overload" idiot loop. And now the videos attached to every post that no one listens to. Its obvious you know you are regarded as an asshole around here, even though that wasn't your original intent....so now you are resigned to playing the role.

PS.....you think you are going to put an INCH AND A HALF of pure muscle on your arms in the next month or so ???

LOLOLOL...you see this is WHY everyone thinks you're an imbecile....you know it's not going to happen, we know it's not going to happen. But you will post your non-stop idiocy for the next 6 weeks and then  say..."Yeah, LOL...mah arms aren't where i thought dat dey wud be....but you will see in November".... ::) ::)

W8M8 nailed it....another Fatpanda with constantly moving the goalposts. You seem to forget your original "3 phase project" failed horribly and yet you still haven't shut the fuck up


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on May 31, 2011, 11:48:10 AM
That pic just proves my point....you are delusional ...which is also something your hero GH15 said about you. You're a skinny guy. Nothing more, and that's you at your " peak".....nothing impressive at all....not one single bodypart you can say "you have good xxxx". You're just thin....big fucking deal.

And yes ....pretty obvious the VAST majority here thinks you are an utter moron....with the imbecilic "sub 8......progressive overload....sub 8.....progressive overload" idiot loop. And now the videos attached to every post that no one listens to. Its obvious you know you are regarded as an asshole around here, even though that wasn't your original intent....so now you are resigned to playing the role.

PS.....you think you are going to put an INCH AND A HALF of pure muscle on your arms in the next month or so ???

LOLOLOL...you see this is WHY everyone thinks you're an imbecile....you know it's not going to happen, we know it's not going to happen. But you will post your non-stop idiocy for the next 6 weeks and then  say..."Yeah, LOL...mah arms aren't where i thought dat dey wud be....but you will see in November".... ::) ::)

W8M8 nailed it....another Fatpanda with constantly moving the goalposts. You seem to forget your original "3 phase project" failed horribly and yet you still haven't shut the fuck up




Keep it up.....he's running out of body parts to measure...


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: w8m8 on May 31, 2011, 12:01:19 PM
Allright, so here's a pic of me when I was near peak, with my legs in full view. This pic was taken about 3 or 4 months before my other peak pics. In this pic I'm weighing 158. As I said brutal left quad and calf :-X

Is one leg bigger because you rode skateboards a lot ?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on May 31, 2011, 12:08:19 PM
Is one leg bigger because you rode skateboards a lot ?



He posted he had two surgeries on his left knee.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: w8m8 on May 31, 2011, 12:10:48 PM


He posted he had two surgeries on his left knee.

oh ... mybad .. I missed that .. I got too involved deciphering all the facts of this in depth "project' .. so he had surgeries on both arms and chest too ?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2011, 12:12:23 PM
That pic just proves my point....you are delusional ...which is also something your hero GH15 said about you. You're a skinny guy. Nothing more, and that's you at your " peak".....nothing impressive at all....not one single bodypart you can say "you have good xxxx". You're just thin....big fucking deal.

And yes ....pretty obvious the VAST majority here thinks you are an utter moron....with the imbecilic "sub 8......progressive overload....sub 8.....progressive overload" idiot loop. And now the videos attached to every post that no one listens to. Its obvious you know you are regarded as an asshole around here, even though that wasn't your original intent....so now you are resigned to playing the role.

PS.....you think you are going to put an INCH AND A HALF of pure muscle on your arms in the next month or so ???

LOLOLOL...you see this is WHY everyone thinks you're an imbecile....you know it's not going to happen, we know it's not going to happen. But you will post your non-stop idiocy for the next 6 weeks and then  say..."Yeah, LOL...mah arms aren't where i thought dat dey wud be....but you will see in November".... ::) ::)

W8M8 nailed it....another Fatpanda with constantly moving the goalposts. You seem to forget your original "3 phase project" failed horribly and yet you still haven't shut the fuck up

Once again there you go with your EVERYBODY/NOBODY horseshit ::) Remember asslick the world doesn't revolve around you and just because YOU think or feel a certain way doesn't mean that everyone else thinks or feels the same way that you do dumbass.

And yes, I firmly believe that I can take my arms from 14.75 to 16 inches by the end of August, maybe even by the end of July, ya lying sack of shit :D Natural ma ass!

And don't you dare lump me in with fatpanda, and try to hang that sign on me cos even though I didn't achieve my goals as quickly as I said I would I have still made visable progress (unlike fatpanda who made ZERO progress). And if someone wants to refute or deny that then thay are either morons, or they have some kind of "fucked-up emotional invovlement/investment" in this thing like you do.

And this Project hasn't failed horribly shithead, as it is crystal clear than I have shed a decent amount of bodyfat, going from a starting point of 15-16% to 8-9%

So stop patting yourself on the back with your EVERYBODY/NOBODY bullshit, coz I ain't buying it fuckface


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on May 31, 2011, 12:29:44 PM
oh ... mybad .. I missed that .. I got too involved deciphering all the facts of this in depth "project' .. so he had surgeries on both arms and chest too ?


Haha...very nice ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: 225for70 on May 31, 2011, 12:37:40 PM
I really don't think you know what a very lean and conditoned physique looks like. Many peeps talk about numbers, like 165 pounds is aneroxic. Well, let me tell ya something...

There is a HUGE FUCKING DIFFERNCE btw 165 @ 12% and 165 @ 7% HUUUUUUGGGGEEEE DIFFERENCE

P.S. gh15 is in complete agreement with me on this point, as he has pointed it out many times in the past ie. Frank Zane @ 185 mops the floors with 220 pound bobybuilders

No offense DJ...You won't be hitting 165 @ 7% anytime soon...At least if you don't change your training and eating methods..Hope this helps..

This week:

Phase 3. I will attempt to lose 5 LBS of body-fat, while adding 2.5 inches to my arms...


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 31, 2011, 12:38:11 PM
Once again there you go with your EVERYBODY/NOBODY horseshit ::) Remember asslick the world doesn't revolve around you and just because YOU think or feel a certain way doesn't mean that everyone else thinks or feels the same way that you do dumbass.

And yes, I firmly believe that I can take my arms from 14.75 to 16 inches by the end of August, maybe even by the end of July, ya lying sack of shit :D Natural ma ass!

And don't you dare lump me in with fatpanda, and try to hang that sign on me cos even though I didn't achieve my goals as quickly as I said I would I have still made visable progress (unlike fatpanda who made ZERO progress). And if someone wants to refute or deny that then thay are either morons, or they have some kind of "fucked-up emotional invovlement/investment" in this thing like you do.

And this Project hasn't failed horribly shithead, as it is crystal clear than I have shed a decent amount of bodyfat, going from a starting point of 15-16% to 8-9%

So stop patting yourself on the back with your EVERYBODY/NOBODY bullshit, coz I ain't buying it fuckface



Who gves a fuck what you're "buying"....YOU are the asshole in question  :D :D :D


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=368752.0;attach=415325;image)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 31, 2011, 12:39:51 PM
No offense DJ...You won't be hitting 165 @ 7% anytime soon...At least if you don't change your training and eating methods..Hope this helps..

This week:

Phase 3. I will attempt to lose 5 LBS of body-fat, while adding 2.5 inches to my arms...

Gee....looks like "EVERYBODY" posting thinks you are full of shit   ;)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 31, 2011, 12:45:39 PM

Haha...very nice ;D

Watch it guys....he "ran track" in high School  :o


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: 225for70 on May 31, 2011, 12:52:38 PM
That pic just proves my point....you are delusional ...which is also something your hero GH15 said about you. You're a skinny guy. Nothing more, and that's you at your " peak".....nothing impressive at all....not one single bodypart you can say "you have good xxxx". You're just thin....big fucking deal.

And yes ....pretty obvious the VAST majority here thinks you are an utter moron....with the imbecilic "sub 8......progressive overload....sub 8.....progressive overload" idiot loop. And now the videos attached to every post that no one listens to. Its obvious you know you are regarded as an asshole around here, even though that wasn't your original intent....so now you are resigned to playing the role.

PS.....you think you are going to put an INCH AND A HALF of pure muscle on your arms in the next month or so ???

LOLOLOL...you see this is WHY everyone thinks you're an imbecile....you know it's not going to happen, we know it's not going to happen. But you will post your non-stop idiocy for the next 6 weeks and then  say..."Yeah, LOL...mah arms aren't where i thought dat dey wud be....but you will see in November".... ::) ::)

W8M8 nailed it....another Fatpanda with constantly moving the goalposts. You seem to forget your original "3 phase project" failed horribly and yet you still haven't shut the fuck up

Im co-signing this... :D

I would like to See DJ fulfill his body building goals OTOH.However., he doesn't adhere to tried and true bodybuilding principles..He also believes in spot reduction etc, which speaks volumes.

Dj also looked like Jesus while at his peak..

Also Dj must have started taking Animal pak & increased his protein consumption to at least 50 grams a day...He's super angry these days..


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 31, 2011, 01:09:42 PM
Im co-signing this... :D

I would like to See DJ fulfill his body building goals OTOH.However., he doesn't adhere to tried and true bodybuilding principles..He also believes in spot reduction etc, which speaks volumes.

Dj also looked like Jesus while at his peak..

Also Dj must have started taking Animal pak & increased his protein consumption to at least 50 grams a day...He's super angry these days..

Yep.....I took him right out of his game with a standard owning protocol, nothing exotic..... he's a weak minded imbecile  8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: 225for70 on May 31, 2011, 02:17:47 PM
Yep.....I took him right out of his game with a standard owning protocol, nothing exotic..... he's a weak minded imbecile  8)

Good tactical owning.. he won't recover


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: chaos on May 31, 2011, 05:20:42 PM
Allright, so here's a pic of me when I was near peak, with my legs in full view. This pic was taken about 3 or 4 months before my other peak pics. In this pic I'm weighing 158. As I said brutal left quad and calf :-X
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=368752.0;attach=415569;image)
Holy shit, Screech posts on getbig!!!!!!!!! :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 31, 2011, 05:36:13 PM
Holy shit, Screech posts on getbig!!!!!!!!! :D

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

he certainly is a puny turd  :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: chaos on May 31, 2011, 06:21:31 PM
(http://www.starzlife.com/wp-content/files/2010/10/Dustin-Diamond.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=368752.0;attach=415569;image)

(http://thefastertimes.com/famehype/files/2009/12/rondiamond.jpg)


 ???


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2011, 07:45:09 PM
No offense DJ...You won't be hitting 165 @ 7% anytime soon...At least if you don't change your training and eating methods..Hope this helps..

This week:

Phase 3. I will attempt to lose 5 LBS of body-fat, while adding 2.5 inches to my arms...

None taken man, and you are entitled to your beliefs. I could go back to some of your posts/predicitons at the start of this thread, and show how I have already proved you wrong, but I'll just let it be ;)

And of course I have changed my eating methods, by upping my cals greatly. I've gone from 500-700 daily cals to 2000-2500 cals daily.

I'm curious, what do you find wrong with my training methods exactly? I have NEVER claimed that there is only one correct way to train, but there is ONLY ONE WAY TO PROGRESS, that being... PRGRESSIVE OVERLOAD. So if one's training method leads them to practice and apply PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD, then they are on the right path 8) And yes, my method has allowed me to apply this guiding principle.

I have a question for those of you who don't think that it's possible to gain muscle very quickly. How is it possible that David Hudlow addded 18.5 pounds of lean muscle in less than 2 weeks, while adding nearly an inch and a half to each arm?

18-1/2 Pounds of Muscle in Two Weeks

Drew Baye: That 18-1/2 pounds of muscle built by David Hudlow in two weeks seems almost too good to be true. Is there anything Im missing here?

Ellington Darden: Actually, I understated the time period. The 18-1/2 pounds of muscle occurred in 11 days, not 14. He registered no weight gain during days 12, 13, and 14, so I just called it two weeks to keep it in line with the other two-week plans in the book. I took accurate measurements of Hudlow before and after, as well as photos of him from the front and back, which you can examine in the HIT book on page 202, so Ive tried to present the results in as factual a way as possible.

I know a lot of people believe that adding that much muscle so quickly is impossible. Thats why I had Hudlows resting metabolic rate checked before and after the 14 days. Not surprising to me, the addition of 18-1/2 pounds of muscle increased his resting metabolic rate by 530 calories, or 28.6 calories per pound of added muscle per day. That reinforced to me that the weight gain was added muscle and not just water brought about from the creatine loading. (The before-and-after photos confirmed that also.) I do think, however, that the creatine monohydrate formula was responsible for from 25 to 30 percent of the results.

Try and get rid of your emotions here, and just look at this from an objective and scientific standpoint.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4UxDSH5pFc


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 31, 2011, 08:27:51 PM
You are just another HIT moron....You buy the bullshit they are selling hook, line and sinker. 18.5 pounds of pure muscle in two weeks NATURALLY....ha ha ha ha Ha....that's a good one.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2011, 08:54:33 PM
You are just another HIT moron....You buy the bullshit they are selling hook, line and sinker. 18.5 pounds of pure muscle in two weeks NATURALLY....ha ha ha ha Ha....that's a good one.

Translation: Hi, my name is groin, and I tried to make gains naturally but couldn't, so I went on the sause but ended up claiming natural status just so I could impress some nameless fellas on an internet bodybuilding forum.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: chaos on May 31, 2011, 08:56:59 PM
None taken man, and you are entitled to your beliefs. I could go back to some of your How is it possible that David Hudlow addded 18.5 pounds of lean muscle in less than 2 weeks, while adding nearly an inch and a half to each arm?

18-1/2 Pounds of Muscle in Two Weeks

It's called steroids dummy.

What is lean muscle vs regular muscle?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 31, 2011, 09:20:53 PM
Translation: Hi, my name is groin, and I tried to make gains naturally but couldn't, so I went on the sause but ended up claiming natural status just so I could impress some nameless fellas on an internet bodybuilding forum.

It's called genetics...you don't have them  :D i can understand how a skinny, weak penis licker with no strength or willpower would assume that I take gear, as you could never dream of being as powerful and muscular as i am in a million years.

 You are a puny shit and everyone hates you and wishes you were dead  :D :D

Can you imagine how frustrating it must be for this unlikable asshead to watch us all joke and banter with each other, and every time he opens his stupid mouth he gets pummeled ??  HaHaHaHaHaaaaa!!!

I could easily pick you up by the throat and smash your face into a cement wall until it resembled chopped meat


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 01, 2011, 12:11:54 AM
It's called genetics...you don't have them  :D i can understand how a skinny, weak penis licker with no strength or willpower would assume that I take gear, as you could never dream of being as powerful and muscular as i am in a million years.

 You are a puny shit and everyone hates you and wishes you were dead  :D :D

Can you imagine how frustrating it must be for this unlikable asshead to watch us all joke and banter with each other, and every time he opens his stupid mouth he gets pummeled ??  HaHaHaHaHaaaaa!!!

I could easily pick you up by the throat and smash your face into a cement wall until it resembled chopped meat


MELTDOWN :D Touched a nerve eh?

And there you go again with your EVERYBODY/NOBODY horseshit ::) And I got news for ya, it ain't working fuckface :D

And you'll be dead long before I, old man :-* FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 01, 2011, 12:19:38 AM
It's called steroids dummy.

What is lean muscle vs regular muscle?

Is this a trick question? There are three types of muscle: smooth, cardiac, and skeletal, so the muscle that we are concerned with here is skeletal muscle. So when I say lean muscle I'm referring to skeletal muscle.

When one gains weight it can be in the form of lean muscle tissue, fat tissue, water bloat, and/or holding "food in the gut". And of course what we are interested in here is adding lean muscle tissue.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 01, 2011, 12:48:25 AM

MELTDOWN :D Touched a nerve eh?

And there you go again with your EVERYBODY/NOBODY horseshit ::) And I got news for ya, it ain't working fuckface :D

And you'll be dead long before I, old man :-* FACT

No.....melting down is what you are doing. You have ditched your "silly, but lovable" shtick and are visibly frustrated and angry...you even admitted your hatred of me fuels your little pussy workout....you have been owned terribly here....no denying it.

And as far as everybody thinking you are a frozen bag of penises ....show me the posts where people are sticking up for you....I'll wait.  8)

You are universally despised...plus you are bald, ugly and have a very big nose

PS.....GH15 said I have pro-caliber genetics....he called you a skinny,delusional idiot..HAHAHAAAAA


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 01, 2011, 01:24:59 AM
No.....melting down is what you are doing. You have ditched your "silly, but lovable" shtick and are visibly frustrated and angry...you even admitted your hatred of me fuels your little pussy workout....you have been owned terribly here....no denying it.

And as far as everybody thinking you are a frozen bag of penises ....show me the posts where people are sticking up for you....I'll wait.  8)

You are universally despised...plus you are bald, ugly and have a very big nose

PS.....GH15 said I have pro-caliber genetics....he called you a skinny,delusional idiot..HAHAHAAAAA

Yeah sure, you aren't melting down, ok I believe it :D Just like how I believe your EVERYBODY/NOBODY horseshit :-*

P.S. gh15 never said that about me you lying shit fer brains. He said that I'm delusional if I think that I can get legit 16 inch conditioned arms naturally. And I'm cool with me him saying that, coz he is entitled to his opinion. So once again, per usual you are putting words into other peoples mouth asswipe :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on June 01, 2011, 02:50:52 AM
If some jackass named Ellington Darden (who the f is that?) posts on the internet about gaining 18.5 pounds of pure muscle in 11 days then it must be true.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 01, 2011, 06:14:40 AM
It's called steroids dummy.

What is lean muscle vs regular muscle?



This^


....and for sure it wasn't lean muscle.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 01, 2011, 06:56:57 AM
Yeah sure, you aren't melting down, ok I believe it :D Just like how I believe your EVERYBODY/NOBODY horseshit :-*

P.S. gh15 never said that about me you lying shit fer brains. He said that I'm delusional if I think that I can get legit 16 inch conditioned arms naturally. And I'm cool with me him saying that, coz he is entitled to his opinion. So once again, per usual you are putting words into other peoples mouth asswipe :D

Show me one person who likes you.  :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 01, 2011, 07:04:39 AM
Show me one person who likes you.  :D



He thinks Blackflagstar ;)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 01, 2011, 07:44:10 AM


He thinks Blackflagstar ;)

Ok....I'll give him ONE PERSON.....LOL

Even though it's obvious BFRS enjoys having DJ lick his balls clean so he stays his "friend"  :D

So that's one for....about thirty against, and I'm not  exaggerating even a little.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 01, 2011, 11:18:22 AM
Ok....I'll give him ONE PERSON.....LOL

Even though it's obvious BFRS enjoys having DJ lick his balls clean so he stays his "friend"  :D

So that's one for....about thirty against, and I'm not  exaggerating even a little.



This^



Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 01, 2011, 11:34:37 AM


This^



It made me LOL when he compared his scrawny polio physique to your respectably muscular 200 + lbs.

Half of the time i think he's just trolling


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 01, 2011, 11:46:13 AM
It made me LOL when he compared his scrawny polio physique to your respectably muscular 200 + lbs.

Half of the time i think he's just trolling


That's what makes me  ::) when it comes to him...I think I'm in good shape, not great, better then some.
he posts like he's going to be in great shape when he's just going to be skinnier.


.....he use to ask so many questions it was annoying...but he never listened.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 01, 2011, 03:44:51 PM

That's what makes me  ::) when it comes to him...I think I'm in good shape, not great, better then some.
he posts like he's going to be in great shape when he's just going to be skinnier.


.....he use to ask so many questions it was annoying...but he never listened.

That's the whole thing right there....STFU and do it, then you can talk all the shit in the world


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 01, 2011, 11:07:52 PM
Allright, I'll try and stop with the flaming and trolling. I'll just try and stick with updating my training progress. And of course adding notes and reminders when the need arises. Remember, this is also a journal, and not just a "project".


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 02, 2011, 12:07:35 AM
Just finished my "push/tri day" and no increase. Tommorrow is "pull/bi day" (which is the most important day for me, since my bis need the most attention). There are a few main pererimeters which I need to keein mind, and they are as folllows:

1. Keep the total work sets to at least 2 per day, but not more than 6 work sets max.

2. While gaining keep the frequency to every 72 hours per muscle group, and to maintain roughly once a week is all that's needed  (with the weights and reps being held constant).

3. There is such a thing as over-training, but there is also such a thing as under-training.

4. I currently train every single day, but best progress is probably found by training on a 2 on/1 off split.


Here is my current schedule:


Day 1: 1. DB Supination Curl/DB row (pre-exhust, 1 cycle)
          2. DB Concentration Curl (1 work set)

Day2: 1. Bent Lateral (1 work set)
         2. DB Shrug (1 work set)

Day 3: 1. DB Lateral/Military (pre-exhust, 1 cycle)
          2. DB Tri Ext (1 work set)
          3. Dip (1 work set)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 02, 2011, 09:07:00 AM
Allright, I'll try and stop with the flaming and trolling. I'll just try and stick with updating my training progress. And of course adding notes and reminders when the need arises. Remember, this is also a journal, and not just a "project".

Why would anyone want to read your "journal" ? Seriously

I'm not going to flame the shit out of you again, but seriously, you must have a pretty high opinion of yourself....the thing is ..again, no flaming.....judging by the amount of people who ridicule you, you aren't nearly as interesting as you think you are, and you are quite arrogant to think you are "journal" worthy....

who exactly are you again in the BBing community?......that's right....NOBODY. and that's a FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 02, 2011, 12:12:28 PM
Why would anyone want to read your "journal" ? Seriously

I'm not going to flame the shit out of you again, but seriously, you must have a pretty high opinion of yourself....the thing is ..again, no flaming.....judging by the amount of people who ridicule you, you aren't nearly as interesting as you think you are, and you are quite arrogant to think you are "journal" worthy....

who exactly are you again in the BBing community?......that's right....NOBODY. and that's a FACT

Allright, fair enough. But I thought that I pointed out a few different times that I'm trying to "remember" just what it took for me to be decently lean and fit. Yeah I know that I don't have an outstanding body, but I was pretty lean and fit at one time in time. You see, when I see my "notes" written down in front of me like this, it really helps me to keep and stay on course. For example, that I need to train rather briefly but hard quite nearly every single day. An also that I must be careful not to over-eat.

And also, I did learn some very important things during phase 1, one of them being that I shouldn't cut calories down too low (500-700). And I also learned that 30-40 grams of protein per day was too low.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: mass 04 on June 05, 2011, 04:38:48 PM
Allright, so here's a pic of me when I was near peak, with my legs in full view. This pic was taken about 3 or 4 months before my other peak pics. In this pic I'm weighing 158. As I said brutal left quad and calf :-X
monster 16 inch legs, teenage girl sized M bike shorts, posing in the University of Delusion computer lab where you formulate your workouts, empty trash can where your workout theories should be, and water bottle that's wider than you are.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 05, 2011, 04:53:55 PM
 :o  <stares blankly at screen>  :o


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on June 06, 2011, 08:50:34 AM
Dont hate the playa guys.  ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 07, 2011, 09:45:47 PM
Over the past week and a half or so, I was training arms and delts every 48 hours, on the following split: ARMS/DELTS repeat. Well, it's just too often for them, so now I'll switch back to the folllowing split: BIS/TRIS/DELTS, also I will try and train legs every 6 days, on the second DELT training session. I have NEVER, EVER trained legs for more than 2 months straight, as that seems to be my cut-off point for them lol


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 08, 2011, 04:55:03 AM
Over the past week and a half or so, I was training arms and delts every 48 hours, on the following split: ARMS/DELTS repeat. Well, it's just too often for them, so now I'll switch back to the folllowing split: BIS/TRIS/DELTS, also I will try and train legs every 6 days, on the second DELT training session. I have NEVER, EVER trained legs for more than 2 months straight, as that seems to be my cut-off point for them lol



Do you have any clue what you're doing ???


....no shit arms and delts every 48 hrs is to often ::)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 08, 2011, 06:15:35 AM


Do you have any clue what you're doing ???


....no shit arms and delts every 48 hrs is to often ::)

Vaguely... And here is god's split:

"i suggest following routine: monday-arms/tuesday-legs/wed off/thursday-back/friday-chest and shoulders/ sat-sun off"

And quite honestly I think that it's probably almost perfect, but the thing is I absolutely refuse to train legs regularly and consistently, it just ain't gonna happen with me, I'm just being honest here... I've never ever been able to train my legs for much more than 6 week straight :-X


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 08, 2011, 06:20:36 AM
Vaguely... And here is god's split:

"i suggest following routine: monday-arms/tuesday-legs/wed off/thursday-back/friday-chest and shoulders/ sat-sun off"

And quite honestly I think that it's probably almost perfect, but the thing is I absolutely refuse to train legs regularly and consistently, it just ain't gonna happen with me, I'm just being honest here... I've never ever been able to train my legs for much more than 6 week straight :-X


Much better routine....try different stuff for legs if you hate doing them.


....try a different leg workout everytime time you do them.that should help you not get bored.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 08, 2011, 06:29:55 AM

Much better routine....try different stuff for legs if you hate doing them.


....try a different leg workout everytime time you do them.that should help you not get bored.

Thanks man, I can try and give that a go. Also, I guess that I gotta kinda humble myself and admit that "diet" plays a bigger role than I wanted to believe. I know that god recommends 150-200 grams of protien per day for a natural trainer, and he also says that naturals can't diegest and utalize much more than 30 grams per meal, so basically that means 5 or 6 meals per day. I have any easy time geting 4 meals a day, and in fact that's the norm for me. But maybe I should try and make it 5 a day with 30-40 protein grams per meal?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 08, 2011, 07:48:00 AM
Thanks man, I can try and give that a go. Also, I guess that I gotta kinda humble myself and admit that "diet" plays a bigger role than I wanted to believe. I know that god recommends 150-200 grams of protien per day for a natural trainer, and he also says that naturals can't diegest and utalize much more than 30 grams per meal, so basically that means 5 or 6 meals per day. I have any easy time geting 4 meals a day, and in fact that's the norm for me. But maybe I should try and make it 5 a day with 30-40 protein grams per meal?


4 meals a day is fine if you're not trying to get bigger.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on June 08, 2011, 04:57:39 PM
I used to hate training legs too and after keeping at it for years they are my favorite workout (but are still pretty skinny =\ ).


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 08, 2011, 11:30:15 PM
I used to hate training legs too and after keeping at it for years they are my favorite workout (but are still pretty skinny =\ ).

My only motivation nowadays to train legs is coz I know that ladies love having a nice round ass to grab and squeeze on :P And that really is the only reason why I would be motivated to train them regularly and consistently. Years ago, before my 2 knee injuries, I would train legs to improve my athletic performance (speed and jumping ability) but since that's all behind me now, this reason exists no more.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 09, 2011, 07:49:13 AM
I've been thinking about climbing the stairs with a weighted backpack. As of now I do the stair climbing 2 or 3 times a week for 12-15 minutes a pop, and it's with a moderate effort. So if I would start with 10 or 20 pounds in my backpack that would take the intensity up a notch or two while simultaneously training my legs.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 09, 2011, 12:33:52 PM
I just got a new mobile with a decent and properly functioning camera, so I'll post some arm update pics before June 15th. And I may even post a quad shot as well, my good quad not the mangeled one :P Also I need to confess something here, I was wrong with this "TRAINING>diet FACT" mantra that I was spouting off about. What I've learned and/or "remembered" is that they are nearly equal components as far as gaining muscle is concerned. I'm not talking a clean diet here, I'm talking about taking in enough protein and calories to support muscle growth. My diet now is mainly eggs, cheese, beef soup, gummi bears, powerade and coca-cola, and I'd say my cals are around 2500-3000 daily and my protein intake is roughly 150-175 grams per day.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on June 10, 2011, 10:00:52 AM
I just got a new mobile with a decent and properly functioning camera, so I'll post some arm update pics before June 15th. And I may even post a quad shot as well, my good quad not the mangeled one :P Also I need to confess something here, I was wrong with this "TRAINING>diet FACT" mantra that I was spouting off about. What I've learned and/or "remembered" is that they are nearly equal components as far as gaining muscle is concerned. I'm not talking a clean diet here, I'm talking about taking in enough protein and calories to support muscle growth. My diet now is mainly eggs, cheese, beef soup, gummi bears, powerade and coca-cola, and I'd say my cals are around 2500-3000 daily and my protein intake is roughly 150-175 grams per day.

Why gummi bears and Coke....empty calories? I assume powerade is similar to Gatorade which does help replace electrolytes.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 10, 2011, 10:22:48 AM
Why gummi bears and Coke....empty calories? I assume powerade is similar to Gatorade which does help replace electrolytes.

My reason for eating them is to make sure that I take in adaquate carbs. Yeah, I could eat pasta, rice, or fruits for the carbs, but gummi bears and cola require absolutely no preperation ;D I am incredibly lazy, and I prefer the easy way out as far a meal prep is concerned lol That's also why I eat alot of cheese and raw eggs mixed with milk for my protien sources, again zero preperation ;D I need to find a sweet woman to prepare my meals for me, but I really can't seem to hold on to one coz once they really get to know me they usually just fly away ROFL! The photos should be up tomorrow, as I've got a bi shot and a quad shot that I will post. And don't worry, this time they will be right-side up :P


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on June 11, 2011, 10:28:00 AM
I need to find a sweet woman to prepare my meals for me, but I really can't seem to hold on to one coz once they really get to know me they usually just fly away ROFL!

Good to see you have a sense of humor about yourself.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 11, 2011, 06:46:36 PM
Not training legs = not training!!

C`mon bro,get serious.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 11, 2011, 10:45:23 PM
Allright, here are the arm update pics, and they are up a little over a half inch. As you can see, there is also a brutal leg pic there as well ;D I'm not sure how much weight I've put on, since I don't own a weight scale. But I am sure that my arms have increased a bit over a half inch on each arm, and that my waist is up almost 1 inch as well. I don't really think that I'm much fatter, I just think that the increased waist size is due to what Blakely used to call "food in the gut". Basically I'm a bloated toad from eating 5 goddamn meals a day. Yeah this "diet" shit has got my head all fucked up now, and I really believe that my waist would shrink back down if I cut back my meals from 5 a day to 3 a day.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 12, 2011, 12:05:11 AM
Epic overanalysing and not enough basic hard work.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 12, 2011, 12:34:06 AM
Epic overanalysing and not enough basic hard work.

Maybe so... But my arms are bigger, and that's my main goal at the moment.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 12, 2011, 04:54:17 AM
By the way, I'm thinking bout really paying attention to my "diet" and see if it can make a better difference. I need to establish macro nutrient minimums first and from there I can formulate this new "diet". As of now, I'm thinking that the bare minimum per macro would be something like this:

1. Protein: 1 gram per pound of bodyweight

2. Carbs: 100 grams minimum.

3. Fats: 50 grams minimum.

If I follow those guidelines, then that would be a minimum of about 1000 cals daily. I can do this, as I was able to make it on 500-700 cals for weeks and weeks. I gotta think about this more deeply, but if anyone has any suggestions I'm willing to take a listen. I'm not so goddamn stubborn about "diet" as I am about training, so I will be more open to suggestion. I'm also familiar with the idea that uses bodyweight as an indicator of calorie intake, and it looked something like this:

1. For maximum fatloss consume bodyweight*10 for daily cal intake.

2. For simultaneously losing fat and gaining muscle consume bodyweight*12

3. For only gaining muscle consume bodyweight*15

And lastly, since I train on a 3-way split as follows: Bis/Tris/Traps alternate with Legs I can also follow a 3 day "cycle diet" as follows: lo-cals on Bi and Tri day, and high cals on Trap/Leg day. The high cals on Trap/Leg day would fuel me up for the Bi and Tri days, as they are MUCH, MUCH MORE IMPORTANT for me than the Trap/Leg day. Let's see if I can actually keep up this Leg training lol In fact, tomorrow will be Leg day.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 12, 2011, 06:40:59 AM
Ok, here's the "diet" on low-cal days:

Break: 8 oz of cheese
         coffee with milk and sugar

Lunch (post-wokout meal): beef soup
                                     powerade

Dinner: 4 eggs mixed into 8 oz of 2% milk

Total Cals: Roughly 2000                      Total Protein: roughly 125 grams

So I'll hit this "diet" 2 days in a row, and then on the 3rd day I'll eat 5 meals with bout 3,000 cals and 175 grams of protein.

Let's see if I can simutaneously gain muscle while losing fat


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 12, 2011, 10:34:59 AM
Maybe so... But my arms are bigger, and that's my main goal at the moment.

Good work bro., your arms will be a whole 15 inches soon  ::)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 12, 2011, 02:08:32 PM
Atrocious diet my friend.

Do some research please for your trainings sake........why waste time and energy?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 12, 2011, 05:08:58 PM
Atrocious diet my friend.

Do some research please for your trainings sake........why waste time and energy?

Dj is an idiot. He adopts a new training philosophy every 15 minutes...none of which include training  legs.

All just to make his arms a little bigger....he's an insult to serious trainers.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 13, 2011, 12:21:05 AM
:(


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 13, 2011, 12:58:12 AM
Atrocious diet my friend.

Do some research please for your trainings sake........why waste time and energy?

You're ok in my book wes, so I'm not gonna talk any shit to ya, so we can just agree to disagree as far as "diet" is concerned. Remember, I am stubborn as fuck when it comes to listening to others or taking orders. IMO, the only reason to clean my current diet up would be for health reasons, and even dental heath, as it's common knowledge that such an intake of sugar ain't too good for the teeth. But as far as performance and vanity purposes are concerned, simple carbs aren't that bad. In fact in my studies at The Ohio State University I took some exercise science courses, and the director of the program taught a course that I took, and he basically said that a coca-cola is just as good as pasta or potatoes to replenish carb stores. I know from my own personal experience that I need at least 100 carb grams daily to function normally. And as far as protein goes, this dude right here taught me that 100 grams is all you need. I'll admit that protein intake has got me a little confused (ie I'm not absolutely sure about it), but I have found out that 30-40 grams per day is definitely too low. This dude, JM Blakely says be sure and get a minimum of 100 grams daily, and god says take in 150-200 grams daily.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 13, 2011, 03:02:37 AM
I'm seriously thinking bout doing bp meets once again, coz I fully realize that I'll NEVER be massive (ie my wrists measure 6.25 inches) and I fully realize and accept god's natural limits for me 165 6-7% or 180 sub-10 These weight limits give me the possibilty to compete in the 48s or the 65s. It's possible to lose up to 10% bodyweight in under 24 hours without health risks, but I think it's a bit wiser and safer to keep it at not more than 8% bodyweight loss. So staying within those ranges (8% max loss over 24 hours) I can weigh up to bout 160 and still make the 48s or bout 180 to make the 65s. Who knows, maybe I'lll even end up doing full meets with the squat and pull lol Nah, dat ain't gonna happen ;D But I could try some push/pull meets, I suppose. We will see...


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 13, 2011, 05:50:45 AM
Dj is an idiot. He adopts a new training philosophy every 15 minutes...none of which include training  legs.

All just to make his arms a little bigger....he's an insult to serious trainers.




Ha!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 13, 2011, 09:51:41 AM
You're ok in my book wes, so I'm not gonna talk any shit to ya, so we can just agree to disagree as far as "diet" is concerned. Remember, I am stubborn as fuck when it comes to listening to others or taking orders. IMO, the only reason to clean my current diet up would be for health reasons, and even dental heath, as it's common knowledge that such an intake of sugar ain't too good for the teeth. But as far as performance and vanity purposes are concerned, simple carbs aren't that bad. In fact in my studies at The Ohio State University I took some exercise science courses, and the director of the program taught a course that I took, and he basically said that a coca-cola is just as good as pasta or potatoes to replenish carb stores. I know from my own personal experience that I need at least 100 carb grams daily to function normally. And as far as protein goes, this dude right here taught me that 100 grams is all you need. I'll admit that protein intake has got me a little confused (ie I'm not absolutely sure about it), but I have found out that 30-40 grams per day is definitely too low. This dude, JM Blakely says be sure and get a minimum of 100 grams daily, and god says take in 150-200 grams daily.


A: no one gives a fuck if you are "stubborn"... .your success or failure with your little bullshit "goals" means nothing here .........you are hated. I myself would gladly blast you in the face and break that pelican beak you call a nose. Then....as You were laying on the floor crying and begging me to stop....I would find some homosexuals and let them rub their cocks on your face


B: who is the douchebag with the Mentzer stache and why do you keep referencing him? He's not even that big....I'm way bigger and more muscular than that.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 13, 2011, 05:15:57 PM
You're ok in my book wes, so I'm not gonna talk any shit to ya, so we can just agree to disagree as far as "diet" is concerned. Remember, I am stubborn as fuck when it comes to listening to others or taking orders. IMO, the only reason to clean my current diet up would be for health reasons, and even dental heath, as it's common knowledge that such an intake of sugar ain't too good for the teeth. But as far as performance and vanity purposes are concerned, simple carbs aren't that bad. In fact in my studies at The Ohio State University I took some exercise science courses, and the director of the program taught a course that I took, and he basically said that a coca-cola is just as good as pasta or potatoes to replenish carb stores. I know from my own personal experience that I need at least 100 carb grams daily to function normally. And as far as protein goes, this dude right here taught me that 100 grams is all you need. I'll admit that protein intake has got me a little confused (ie I'm not absolutely sure about it), but I have found out that 30-40 grams per day is definitely too low. This dude, JM Blakely says be sure and get a minimum of 100 grams daily, and god says take in 150-200 grams daily.
Coca-Cola........c`mon bro,trust me on this a calorie is not just a calorie when trying to train hard and or look good, or both, which should be everyones aim.

Not enough protein, and terrible food choices in general.

Eat cleaner,eat more,cycle clean carbs,train legs really hard and indirectly it will help your arms grow believe it or not.

Just trying to help but don`t know if it`ll sink in.

One thing an older black dude at one of our old gyms used to say was:
"fuck them if they won`t listen.........I`M GETTING MINE"!!


And he looked good too.



Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: mass 04 on June 13, 2011, 05:51:07 PM
nothing like a block of cheese and a cup of coffee to start the day off right.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 13, 2011, 08:34:42 PM
nothing like a block of cheese and a cup of coffee to start the day off right.

lol

And don't forget da cigs ma man ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 13, 2011, 08:37:07 PM
Not enough protein,


Like I said before I'm a bit more open concerning this point, so how much protien do you think that I need per day?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 13, 2011, 08:43:12 PM
train legs really hard and indirectly it will help your arms grow believe it or not.



You know, even AJ said this, but the thing is I absolutley hate training legs as it's boring as fuck training them. Plus, if I do get back into doing bp comps that we just give me unnecassary added weight, coz bigger legs don't create a bigger bench. Remember, the 81s and 98s are the toughtest divisions in all of powerlifting. Shit man! The 65s are pretty rough too, but not as bad as the 81s and 98s. I suppose that I could try the 32s, but then I couldn't weigh much more than 145 lol


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 13, 2011, 10:47:56 PM
Bigger legs don't create a bigger bench?  This shows me you don't know the first fucking thing about competition benching. Another lying asshole.....shocker

Like anyone would believe You did bench press comps in the first place.... you feeble, piece of shit bullshit artist

And why would training legs be boring to you? You don't have any muscle anywhere ...all of your bodyparts suck...what's the difference what you train?

This is why I treat you with complete disrespect....because you are a fucking lying asshole troll....but you think you are slick about it


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 14, 2011, 12:19:35 AM
nothing like a block of cheese and a cup of coffee to start the day off right.
LOL  ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 14, 2011, 12:22:27 AM
Like I said before I'm a bit more open concerning this point, so how much protien do you think that I need per day?
Dude,with that ridiculous training routine,you probably don`t need more than a 6 year old kid would require.

Train like a bodybuilder...........mi nimum 3 x a week,though a minimum of 4 days would be better.

Gruelling workouts where you give it your all and then we could easily eat 1-1.5 or even 2 grams per pound of bodyweight,though 1 gram would be better than what you`re doing now.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 14, 2011, 12:23:11 AM
Bigger legs don't create a bigger bench?  This shows me you don't know the first fucking thing about competition benching. Another lying asshole.....shocker

Like anyone would believe You did bench press comps in the first place.... you feeble, piece of shit bullshit artist

And why would training legs be boring to you? You don't have any muscle anywhere ...all of your bodyparts suck...what's the difference what you train?

This is why I treat you with complete disrespect....because you are a fucking lying asshole troll....but you think you are slick about it
The Groinkster`s on a mission!! LOL  ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 14, 2011, 01:56:37 AM
Dude,with that ridiculous training routine,you probably don`t need more than a 6 year old kid would require.

Train like a bodybuilder...........mi nimum 3 x a week,though a minimum of 4 days would be better.

Gruelling workouts where you give it your all and then we could easily eat 1-1.5 or even 2 grams per pound of bodyweight,though 1 gram would be better than what you`re doing now.

I train every goddamn day ma man, it's just my training philosophy doesn't follow "normal conventions". Please note.. I DO NOT SAY THAT MY WAY IS THE ONLY WAY, it's just an alternative way. What I don't understand is why you fellas take this shit so personal. Who gives a flying fuck if I train my legs or not?

Another thing that I don't understand is this "emotionalism" ::) Case in point, I personally didn't like either Mentzer of AJ, thought they were both a couple of assholes, but that didn't stop me from learning from them.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 14, 2011, 02:00:23 AM
Also, it's not just PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD that's the ticket, it's PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD plus a decent amount of food and cals. If one doesn't take in sufficient cals while progressively overloading their muscles, then their muscles can get stronger, but they won't get bigger. One needs these extra cals to fuel and support growth FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 14, 2011, 04:38:49 AM
Also, it's not just PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD that's the ticket, it's PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD plus a decent amount of food and cals. If one doesn't take in sufficient cals while progressively overloading their muscles, then their muscles can get stronger, but they won't get bigger. One needs these extra cals to fuel and support growth FACT

Who cares....you are a skinny piece of garbage.

It really doesn't matter what training protocol you employ...your genetics sucks and you will never look impressive.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on June 14, 2011, 06:31:03 AM
I train every goddamn day ma man, it's just my training philosophy doesn't follow "normal conventions". Please note.. I DO NOT SAY THAT MY WAY IS THE ONLY WAY, it's just an alternative way. What I don't understand is why you fellas take this shit so personal. Who gives a flying fuck if I train my legs or not?

Another thing that I don't understand is this "emotionalism" ::) Case in point, I personally didn't like either Mentzer of AJ, thought they were both a couple of assholes, but that didn't stop me from learning from them.

(1) Training philosophy doesn't follow normal conventions

(2) Is scrawny and weak

Do you see no connection between (1) and (2)?

Also pretty sure you never met Mike Mentzer or Arthur Jones.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: w8m8 on June 14, 2011, 07:20:30 AM
This thread is like Bizarro world Panda-esque blogging

no matter what anyone has tried to help with is not good enough ..  he still looks like an underfed prisoner that's been held in a bamboo covered hole for 10 years because what he is thinking is what is right and to hell with anyone's advise

it's futile for anyone to give him advise


Tom Hanks looked better in Castaway .. and they wanted him to look bad

(http://www.bigbongorecords.com/images/cast_away.jpg)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 14, 2011, 07:37:06 AM
This thread is like Bizarro world Panda-esque blogging

no matter what anyone has tried to help with is not good enough ..  he still looks like an underfed prisoner that's been held in a bamboo covered hole for 10 years because what he is thinking is what is right and to hell with anyone's advise

it's futile for anyone to give him advise


Tom Hanks looked better in Castaway .. and they wanted him to look bad

(http://www.bigbongorecords.com/images/cast_away.jpg)



And Hanks had better hair....


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 14, 2011, 07:42:02 AM
.......and Hanks worked his fucking legs!  LOL  ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 14, 2011, 07:43:10 AM
.......and Hanks worked his fucking legs!  LOL  ;D


.....And ate better ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: w8m8 on June 14, 2011, 07:53:39 AM

.....And ate better ;D

and could write better !!

(http://www.anonymousfatgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/castaway.gif)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 14, 2011, 08:15:54 AM
and could write better !!

(http://www.anonymousfatgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/castaway.gif)



Better arms then dj in that pic.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 14, 2011, 08:39:18 AM
"Frank Zane at 185 mops the floor with 220 pound bodybuilders" -god

QUALITY>quantity -dj


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 14, 2011, 08:52:01 AM
"Frank Zane at 185 mops the floor with 220 pound bodybuilders" -god

QUALITY>quantity -dj

What does that have to do with the fact that you look like utter shit ??


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 14, 2011, 09:00:38 AM
What does that have to do with the fact that you look like utter shit ??



Who do you have in the posedown,Tom Hanks in Castaway or dj181 ???


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Xerxes on June 14, 2011, 09:19:58 AM
17 pages of harassment and he still posts updates.. even the people who are being nice are condescending  :-\


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 14, 2011, 09:53:02 AM
17 pages of harassment and he still posts updates.. even the people who are being nice are condescending  :-\

He truly is Getbigs Village Idiot.

I have to add Its does my heart good to see some high-level members owning this tool as well


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 14, 2011, 09:59:05 AM
Yeah that's true, I've made ZERO improvements. It's just some kind of strange coincidence that my waist is down a full 4 inches, and my bodyfat level is down 4-5% and that I've added a full inch to each arm. Yeah sure, just a coincidence ::)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Xerxes on June 14, 2011, 10:15:12 AM
Maybe if you did some squats, deadlifts, overhead presses and benchpresses and just posted your numbers instead of posting long posts where you explain why you failed or how shitty your diet is or how you set a new "goal" or some random music videos or qoutes, then maybe people would praise your gains

its supposed to be a training LOG, not a blog


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 14, 2011, 10:33:27 AM
Yeah that's true, I've made ZERO improvements. It's just some kind of strange coincidence that my waist is down a full 4 inches, and my bodyfat level is down 4-5% and that I've added a full inch to each arm. Yeah sure, just a coincidence ::)

Congratulations!!!...you still look like shit!

Maybe if you did some squats, deadlifts, overhead presses and benchpresses and just posted your numbers instead of posting long posts where you explain why you failed or how shitty your diet is or how you set a new "goal" or some random music videos or qoutes, then maybe people would praise your gains

its supposed to be a training LOG, not a blog


....and so it begins...


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 14, 2011, 10:54:32 AM
Yeah that's true, I've made ZERO improvements. It's just some kind of strange coincidence that my waist is down a full 4 inches, and my bodyfat level is down 4-5% and that I've added a full inch to each arm. Yeah sure, just a coincidence ::)

You're lying.....hope this helps.

What Xerxes said echoes my previous posts.....no one give a flying fuck about you, your personal life or your stupid videos and poems. You think you are this hip, interesting cat...but you're a total jerkoff with an irritating personality.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on June 14, 2011, 12:09:27 PM
Xerxes basically just summarized this abortion of a "training" "log".


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 14, 2011, 10:20:40 PM
Remember, I have very clearly defined goals: 165 @ 7-8% with legit and conditioned 16 inch arms, therefore my training is directly in tune with my goals. Squats, deads, even bench ARE NOT REQUIRED to achieve these clearly defined goals. Again it's a case of others trying to hang their signs on me, "No man! You gotta be at least 200 pounds, squating and pulling well over 400 pounds" ::) News flash! Those aren't my goals, they are the goals that y'all are trying to impose upon me.

So once again.... 165 @ 7-8% with 16 inch arms


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 14, 2011, 11:02:56 PM
P.S. I gots me a few fans here... meso_z, mass243, Mr Nobody FACT
And I give a shout out to you fellas "Peace and love baby!"

P.P.S. My main goal is a lean, conditoned and seperated legit 16 inch arm, and of course to have a lean, conditoned and seperated 16 inch arm I must be sitting at sub-8. So therefore the bodyweight part isn't nearly as important as the other 2 factors (a lean, conditoned and seperated 16 inch arm, and sitting @ sub-8) and those 2 factors shall be ma guiding light FACT 8)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on June 14, 2011, 11:09:42 PM
Remember, I have very clearly defined goals: 165 @ 7-8% with legit and conditioned 16 inch arms, therefore my training is directly in tune with my goals. Squats, deads, even bench ARE NOT REQUIRED to achieve these clearly defined goals. Again it's a case of others trying to hang their signs on me, "No man! You gotta be at least 200 pounds, squating and pulling well over 400 pounds" ::) News flash! Those aren't my goals, they are the goals that y'all are trying to impose upon me.

So once again.... 165 @ 7-8% with 16 inch arms

Not to interfere with your goals, but may I offer that squats may help you achieve those goals faster. Some experts believe that if one does nothing else for their overall health and muscular development, one should do squats. It isn't so much that you have to squat with a lot of weight as you must to do them with excellent form including proper breathing.

Come on, give this a try. Squatting with just you body weight. Hold your head high, stick your chest out, keep your back straight, squat deep and breath deeply, exhaling as you return to a standing position. Do three sets of twenty squats to start. You will be amazed at how invigorated you'll feel. It will make your day. Do this three times each week.

What do you have to lose?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 14, 2011, 11:34:49 PM
Not to interfere with your goals, but may I offer that squats may help you achieve those goals faster. Some experts believe that if one does nothing else for their overall health and muscular development, one should do squats. It isn't so much that you have to squat with a lot of weight as you must to do them with excellent form including proper breathing.

Come on, give this a try. Squatting with just you body weight. Hold your head high, stick your chest out, keep your back straight, squat deep and breath deeply, exhaling as you return to a standing position. Do three sets of twenty squats to start. You will be amazed at how invigorated you'll feel. It will make your day. Do this three times each week.

What do you have to lose?

Well man, I could do it twice a week, on the 3rd day of my 3 way split. And I can do it with DB's 1 of 2 ways, either holding the bells at my sides, or up on my delts. Which method would you suggest?

Also, here is a PRIME EXAMPLE (no "prime" pun intended man ;D) of what I'm talking about: 16 inch conditioned and seperated arms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe3ycChPe1M


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 15, 2011, 10:25:24 AM
Well man, I could do it twice a week, on the 3rd day of my 3 way split. And I can do it with DB's 1 of 2 ways, either holding the bells at my sides, or up on my delts. Which method would you suggest?

Also, here is a PRIME EXAMPLE (no "prime" pun intended man ;D) of what I'm talking about: 16 inch conditioned and seperated arms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe3ycChPe1M

Your arms don't look anything like that

Your arms suck.....just like the rest of you.

Oh, by the way....where are your "fans" to back you up?

Why don't I EVER see a post defending you..?

Its because those people are patronizing you, You dipshit .......hope this helps  ;)

EVERYBODY thinks you are an asshole and your training methods are moronic.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 15, 2011, 11:43:19 AM
You know what this retard reminds me of?

When I was a kid around 13 or so, we had this one dude who wanted to.play the electric guitar.

So one day he says " my dads going to get me an electric guitar for my birthday! "
So we are all like "that's cool" and that was that

For the next four months all we EVER heard out of this kids mouth was that he was getting an electric guitar for his birthday...no matter what we were doing or talking about...
we could be building a tree fort and he'd say..."I'm going to build a compartment for my electric guitar " that he didn't even have yet. It got to the point that we wanted to beat him to death with an electric guitar.

That What this idiot reminds me of....and BTW he never even got the damn thing and was a total loser.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 15, 2011, 12:11:34 PM
Yeah sure, I live in a dream world ::) Even though my arm pics show CLEAR AND OBVIOUS IMPROVEMENT, abs too FACT

If one does not see the obvious improvement, then they are either a moron, or lying to themselves because of their very strange "emotional investment" in this whole thing FACT

Once again, I don't claim to be outstanding at the moment, but what I am claiming and can indeed state as fact is that I HAVE MADE CLEAR AND OBVIOUS IMPROVEMENTS TO MA PHYSIQUE FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on June 15, 2011, 12:47:56 PM
Well man, I could do it twice a week, on the 3rd day of my 3 way split. And I can do it with DB's 1 of 2 ways, either holding the bells at my sides, or up on my delts. Which method would you suggest?

Since form should be your focus when doing squats, I recommend you do them without added weight. To insure you are holding your chest high, try doing them with your arms folded across your chest. If this causes problems with balance, just hang your arms at your sides. Some folks lift their arms out in front of them to shoulder height as they squat down, returning them to their side as the stand. There are a number of ways to do squats....you could mix it up if you like just to keep life interesting. Just be sure to breathe deeply and hold your chest high. Your doing these squats more for the oxygen saturation, blood flow and general good health then specifically to build your quads and glutes.

Twice a week is better than not at all. Three times a week is better still. This shouldn't take more than five or so minutes and you can do them anytime. You don't have to add them to your current arm and shoulder workout time. Do them in the mornings if you can.

Also, here is a PRIME EXAMPLE (no "prime" pun intended man ;D) of what I'm talking about: 16 inch conditioned and seperated arms.

-Nice realistic goal. I believe if you stick to this goal and stay with whatever routine you think is working for awhile, you'll achieve what you hope to. Not everyone can or wants to be hugely muscled. There is nothing wrong with your goals because they are yours to have. Don't worry what others here say, they are not you. However, understand that this is a bodybuilding site and many folks here have goals of getting or staying huge, like a lot of today's pro bodybuilders. These folks aren't likely to understand or share your goals and you shouldn't expect them to.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 15, 2011, 01:03:40 PM
Yeah sure, I live in a dream world ::) Even though my arm pics show CLEAR AND OBVIOUS IMPROVEMENT, abs too FACT

If one does not see the obvious improvement, then they are either a moron, or lying to themselves because of their very strange "emotional investment" in this whole thing FACT

Once again, I don't claim to be outstanding at the moment, but what I am claiming and can indeed state as fact is that I HAVE MADE CLEAR AND OBVIOUS IMPROVEMENTS TO MA PHYSIQUE FACT

so you went from being a skinnyfat piece of shit, to being a skinny piece of shit.

Great work man !!!!  ::)

I have no emotional investment...you see that's where you are misguided you small turd. You seem to think I..or anybody, "cares" about your physique....or your welfare in general.     I don't.     you could die tomorrow and it wouldn't even register.

I just enjoy ridiculing you because you are an asshole and your stupidity makes it easy and fun  :)

I have no intention of stopping  :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on June 15, 2011, 01:05:06 PM
17 pages of harassment and he still posts updates.. even the people who are being nice are condescending  :-\

So, I hope you are saying that we should give this guy credit for his ability to take shit from others and still keep posting here. Not everyone is smooth and or tough talking. Not everyone is built like a superhero. There are a lot of people out there who are just getting started bodybuilding or power lifting and who still need and want some advice....even when they seem to reject it.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on June 15, 2011, 01:08:18 PM
so you went from being a skinnyfat piece of shit, to being a skinny piece of shit.

Great work man !!!!  ::)

I have no emotional investment...you see that's where you are misguided you small turd. You seem to think I..or anybody, "cares" about your physique....or your welfare in general.     I don't.     you could die tomorrow and it wouldn't even register.

I just enjoy ridiculing you because you are an asshole and your stupidity makes it easy and fun  :)

I have no intention of stopping  :D

This begs the question; why do you waste your time and energy on someone you care nothing about?

Wouldn't it be more challenging to ridicule someone who you consider to be your equal? Or, do you perfer picking on easy targets?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 15, 2011, 01:09:28 PM
So, I hope you are saying that we should give this guy credit for his ability to take shit from others and still keep posting here. Not everyone is smooth and or tough talking. Not everyone is built like a superhero. There are a lot of people out there who are just getting started bodybuilding or power lifting and who still need and want some advice....even when they seem to reject it.

Ummm. that's not him.

he's been at this since the 90's. and he posts a couple of pics constantly from when he was in shape over a decade ago and acts like they are pictures of Flex Wheeler.

If you think he's a sincere guy who just needs a little advice you would be wrong, he thinks he knows it all already.

But you already know this, you are just going to bat for him because i said nobody does, and you want me to appear wrong  ;)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 15, 2011, 01:11:27 PM


Because he's an obnoxious idiot....i'm not the only person who thinks so, i would say the vast majority here does.

But feel free to be his "champion" because you feel the need to try and put me in my place  ::)

you will fail.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on June 15, 2011, 02:06:45 PM
Ummm. that's not him.

he's been at this since the 90's. and he posts a couple of pics constantly from when he was in shape over a decade ago and acts like they are pictures of Flex Wheeler.

If you think he's a sincere guy who just needs a little advice you would be wrong, he thinks he knows it all already.

But you already know this, you are just going to bat for him because i said nobody does, and you want me to appear wrong  ;)

I don't want you to appear wrong. However, I do have a tendency to root for the underdog. So you got that part right.

Apparently I was ignorant of his history with Getbig. If this is the case, the fellow is obviously desperate for attention. That being the case, his seeking it from a bunch of Internet strangers is very sad. One can only assume he is a very lonely guy. Are your comments to him a form of "tough love?" Are you, in fact, telling him to "get a life!"



Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 15, 2011, 02:32:31 PM
Primemuscle is right,and I mentioned it earlier in this log........squats will give you overall body gains in size.

A good build is out of reach training like this.

Join a fucking gym,train your ass off (entire body using barbells,dumbells,machines,and do legs) eat like a bodybuilder,rest,recover,repeat..................not rocket science no matter what Jones or Mentzer said.

You do have to have a plan,but it has to be a good viable one and yours is just plain shit.

I have clients I train that are just average people trying to get into better shape...........I train them as if they were bodybuilders and have them eat that way also...........simply because it works.

Groink...........take over bud!!  ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Hulkotron on June 15, 2011, 03:03:10 PM
Primemuscle is right,and I mentioned it earlier in this log........squats will give you overall body gains in size.

A good build is out of reach training like this.

Join a fucking gym,train your ass off (entire body using barbells,dumbells,machines,and do legs) eat like a bodybuilder,rest,recover,repeat..................not rocket science no matter what Jones or Mentzer said.

You do have to have a plan,but it has to be a good viable one and yours is just plain shit.

I have clients I train that are just average people trying to get into better shape...........I train them as if they were bodybuilders and have them eat that way also...........simply because it works.

Groink...........take over bud!!  ;D

The physiques he idolizes (e.g. Zane) are all bodybuilders who trained like this, although he doesn't seem to have made the connection yet.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 15, 2011, 05:19:40 PM
I hear ya` man...............he could at least give it a shot.

Maybe it entails too much hard work and dedication ???

Oh yeah,hard work and dedication is what gets results so we have the answer to why he doesn`t try it out.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on June 15, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
Because he's an obnoxious idiot....i'm not the only person who thinks so, i would say the vast majority here does.

But feel free to be his "champion" because you feel the need to try and put me in my place  ::)

you will fail.

I am not sure which post I made to which you refer here because there is nothing in the quote section. However, let me assure you, I absolutely have no desire to put anyone in their place. I am not that powerful, but thanks for thinking I am anyway. In my opinion we all do a pretty good job of placing ourselves....if not initially, eventually.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 15, 2011, 09:36:07 PM
I am not sure which post I made to which you refer here because there is nothing in the quote section. However, let me assure you, I absolutely have no desire to put anyone in their place. I am not that powerful, but thanks for thinking I am anyway. In my opinion we all do a pretty good job of placing ourselves....if not initially, eventually.


I said "try"  ;)

This isn't the first time you've shown up "uninvited" and hit me with a little passive- aggressive action. Its pretty obvious you're not a fan...LOL

And seriously I think you and I should not be taking little swipes at each other....you seem.like a pretty cool guy and you're obviously one of the guys around here who knows his shit


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 15, 2011, 11:05:01 PM
Allright, I guess this whole thing needs a bit of clarification. Yes, I'm no noivce or beginner, but let's just say that I "got lost" for a number of years (meaning hardships in life, women, etc). So, during that time away I "forgot" what it takes to look like I did before (lean, fit, and healthy, with a tad of muscle). So the MAIN REASON for the log is completly and totallly selfish (basically my "remembering" wot I gots to do). I'm not out to impress anyone or reach them or change thier training ideas/beliefs, I'm out soley for me. (Yeah I know it's not such an honorable thing, but at least I'm honest and I admit the truth) And to those how are out to help others with a sincere desire to, meaning not self-seeking, then I give them a "tip of the hat" for that.

Look, I may be delusional, but I'm not that delusional. I fully realize that it is litterally impossible for for to be a big guy, it's just not in my genes. So, I'm taking what I got, and trying to develop it to it's fullest. Here is something that will cause even more hatred and bitterness towards me, but if that's what someone chooses to feel, then that's their problem not mine. So here is what I want.... An Adonis Bod :P Meaning lean, conditioned and seperated muscle, with nice lines. It seems that many are hung up on numbers... Oh no, you can't weigh only a buck 60 it's too skinnny BULLSHIT Did Marvin Hagler look like shit? HELL NO! Here he is @ 160


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 15, 2011, 11:20:54 PM
I hear ya` man...............he could at least give it a shot.

Maybe it entails too much hard work and dedication ???

Oh yeah,hard work and dedication is what gets results so we have the answer to why he doesn`t try it out.

Ok dude, I can hear where you're coming from. But there is a little something else going on here. Remember, I'm seriously thinking about getting back into fitness training, and I have this harebrained idea to see if I can do some kind of in-home training gig. So if it alls pans out, then I'd really like to be able to say to my clients with full confidence and self-assuredness "Yes, you can do this at home". So, if I do it myself with this in-home training them I will have the full confidence to proclaim it to others.

Look fellas, I know that you have your beliefs that in-gym training is required, but I really and sincerely don't believe this to be true. I do work hard, I just don't work long. Like AJ said, "You can work hard, or you can work long, but you can't do both" and you know what? He is/was right. Here is my belief, one should train frequently, but briefly. And of course apply the gospel of progressive overload with enough calories. The calories are required to make the muscles larger.

I still have enough weight at home to apply this gospel of progressive overload, but once I max out my bells on my exercises then it will be time to join a gym, since I've taken what I've got at home to it's max.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 16, 2011, 12:48:00 AM
No one`s saying you have to get huge dude...I`ve been training forever and I`ve resigned myself to the fact that I`m just a smaller guy.

Of course,I missed a lot of years due to booze,drugs,failed relationships and just having depression and anxiety issues..................(no excuses,just the way life took me or I let it take me),but I still know that the routine your doing could be far better..........and I mean result producing.

You lost weight, which is good, but you are still very soft,that`s from your diet,which I told you is totally weak as far as getting good results goes.................sma ller while remaining soft should not really be looked at as great progress IMO.

Whatever,good luck,I`m not gonna` offer any more advice or criticism either way.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 16, 2011, 02:11:16 AM
No one`s saying you have to get huge dude...I`ve been training forever and I`ve resigned myself to the fact that I`m just a smaller guy.

Of course,I missed a lot of years due to booze,drugs,failed relationships and just having depression and anxiety issues..................(no excuses,just the way life took me or I let it take me),but I still know that the routine your doing could be far better..........and I mean result producing.

You lost weight, which is good, but you are still very soft,that`s from your diet,which I told you is totally weak as far as getting good results goes.................sma ller while remaining soft should not really be looked at as great progress IMO.

Whatever,good luck,I`m not gonna` offer any more advice or criticism either way.

That's cool man, so we can just agree to disagree as it were. Again, I don't push my methods on others as I try and live by the creed "Live and let live".


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 16, 2011, 02:24:21 AM
I just finished doing DB Squats after 72 hours rest, and I went down from 16 reps with 70 pounds per bell, to 10 reps with 70 pounds per bell... Not good :-X So this just reconfirms what I already knew to be true, LEGS MUST NOT BE TRAINED MORE OFTEN THAT EVERY 6 DAYS (and of cousre it remains to be seen if I will actually continue to train my legs on a regular and consistant basis). Arms and delts can handle being hit every 72 hours, but legs can't, most likely due to the fact that legs are a much larger muscle mass than arms and delts, and therefore require a longer period of time to recover.

P.S. Every sinlge time that my training loads went up my muscles got bigger, EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME, just as long as my cals were sufficient :P

So once again, THE KEY IS (with regards to making bigger muscles).... Training with greater and greater training loads while eating plenty of calories to support muscle gain and growth.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 16, 2011, 04:36:23 AM
Allright, I guess this whole thing needs a bit of clarification. Yes, I'm no noivce or beginner, but let's just say that I "got lost" for a number of years (meaning hardships in life, women, etc). So, during that time away I "forgot" what it takes to look like I did before (lean, fit, and healthy, with a tad of muscle). So the MAIN REASON for the log is completly and totallly selfish (basically my "remembering" wot I gots to do). I'm not out to impress anyone or reach them or change thier training ideas/beliefs, I'm out soley for me. (Yeah I know it's not such an honorable thing, but at least I'm honest and I admit the truth) And to those how are out to help others with a sincere desire to, meaning not self-seeking, then I give them a "tip of the hat" for that.

Look, I may be delusional, but I'm not that delusional. I fully realize that it is litterally impossible for for to be a big guy, it's just not in my genes. So, I'm taking what I got, and trying to develop it to it's fullest. Here is something that will cause even more hatred and bitterness towards me, but if that's what someone chooses to feel, then that's their problem not mine. So here is what I want.... An Adonis Bod :P Meaning lean, conditioned and seperated muscle, with nice lines. It seems that many are hung up on numbers... Oh no, you can't weigh only a buck 60 it's too skinnny BULLSHIT Did Marvin Hagler look like shit? HELL NO! Here he is @ 160

No clarification necessary ......you're a skinny useless twat, which was already plain as day.

I am superior to you in every single facet of life.......you useless bag of dog shit.

PS....Hagler was on gear you idiot......and God wouldn't give a body like that to to a spineless turd like You....that's why you are stuck with that piece of shit bag of bones you have now

Hahahaaaaaaaaa  :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 16, 2011, 11:27:18 AM
I just finished doing DB Squats after 72 hours rest, and I went down from 16 reps with 70 pounds per bell, to 10 reps with 70 pounds per bell... Not good :-X So this just reconfirms what I already knew to be true, LEGS MUST NOT BE TRAINED MORE OFTEN THAT EVERY 6 DAYS (and of cousre it remains to be seen if I will actually continue to train my legs on a regular and consistant basis). Arms and delts can handle being hit every 72 hours, but legs can't, most likely due to the fact that legs are a much larger muscle mass than arms and delts, and therefore require a longer period of time to recover.

P.S. Every sinlge time that my training loads went up my muscles got bigger, EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME, just as long as my cals were sufficient :P

So once again, THE KEY IS (with regards to making bigger muscles).... Training with greater and greater training loads while eating plenty of calories to support muscle gain and growth.
You`re legs are obviously not used to being worked,thus they are not conditioned yet.

Keep doing them.......quads are huge powerful muscle than can withstand a lot of work.

A few sets of DB squats shows they need to be worked with more volume and higher reps to get into the condition needed to make progress.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 16, 2011, 11:31:15 AM
Also,you aren`t always gonna` get the same reps on a movement due to many variables........too little sleep,missed meals,hard day at work,etc. etc.,then there`s a little thing called biorythm.

This doesn`t mean you`re regressing,just means your day wasn`t quite as good rep wise as the previous leg day.

Hey,didn`t I say I`d stop offering advice and /or criticism ???


Sorry.......carry on,can`t wait to see your gains bro!!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 16, 2011, 11:33:17 AM
you useless bag of dog shit.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 16, 2011, 12:01:39 PM
You`re legs are obviously not used to being worked,thus they are not conditioned yet.

Keep doing them.......quads are huge powerful muscle than can withstand a lot of work.

A few sets of DB squats shows they need to be worked with more volume and higher reps to get into the condition needed to make progress.

Didn't you read what he said Wes?  "LEGS ARE NOT TO BE TRAINED MORE THAN ONCE EVERY SIX DAYS"

One leg workout and this dipshit is an authority  ::)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 16, 2011, 12:08:03 PM
Didn't you read what he said Wes?  "LEGS ARE NOT TO BE TRAINED MORE THAN ONCE EVERY SIX DAYS"

One leg workout and this dipshit is an authority  ::)
Personally one set of DB squats doesn`t constitute a leg day in my fucking book,but obviously dj hasn`t picked up a copy of it yet!!  ;D

One leg day and complaining,usually means no more leg days!  :(

WTF huh?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2011, 12:21:00 PM

I said "try"  ;)

This isn't the first time you've shown up "uninvited" and hit me with a little passive- aggressive action. Its pretty obvious you're not a fan...LOL

And seriously I think you and I should not be taking little swipes at each other....you seem.like a pretty cool guy and you're obviously one of the guys around here who knows his shit

It occurs to me that most folks posting here are "uninvited" at some point, particularly when they are relative newbies like me. Correct me if I have this wrong, but I thought the way to get started here was to just dive in.

Although I try to just be the same guy people know me as in real life when I post, sometimes I don't successfully convey that I am just an ordinary guy who tends to be really laid back and with not much of an attitude. I suppose I occasionally get caught up in the heat of the posts and overreact in my responses. It always surprises me when someone takes me at all seriously....I don't take myself so.

Thanks for the compliments regarding my being cool and knowing my stuff. Although I have enjoyed bodybuilding for decades, I am always learning new things....some of them by reading posts folks make in the forums here. If I know anything, I owe this to what is shared with me by others who are much more knowledgeable than I am. As for being cool, that depends on the situation and how others see me....I think I can be a major asshole at times. My wife would agree.  ;)

It seems you are a pretty cool dude yourself. I greatly appreciate you honesty and civility with me. I will endeavor to avoid taking "swipes" at you in the future and give you more credit for knowing what you are talking about.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2011, 12:37:00 PM
I just finished doing DB Squats after 72 hours rest, and I went down from 16 reps with 70 pounds per bell, to 10 reps with 70 pounds per bell... Not good :-X So this just reconfirms what I already knew to be true, LEGS MUST NOT BE TRAINED MORE OFTEN THAT EVERY 6 DAYS (and of cousre it remains to be seen if I will actually continue to train my legs on a regular and consistant basis). Arms and delts can handle being hit every 72 hours, but legs can't, most likely due to the fact that legs are a much larger muscle mass than arms and delts, and therefore require a longer period of time to recover.

P.S. Every sinlge time that my training loads went up my muscles got bigger, EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME, just as long as my cals were sufficient :P

So once again, THE KEY IS (with regards to making bigger muscles).... Training with greater and greater training loads while eating plenty of calories to support muscle gain and growth.

Hopefully, these weighted squats weren't done as a result of my suggestion that you squat for overall health. While 140 lbs. isn't much for added weight if one is trying to build their "wheels" up, this isn't what I was suggesting you do. My suggestion was to do squats with no added weight, concentrating on form, breathing and getting your blood flowing. This is a very different thing that weighted squats.

I work quads once as week and I work hams once a week, on Saturday and Tuesday respectively. When I work them, I work them with a fair load of weight. This is to build size and strength. When I am doing the unweighted squats I recommended you do, I do them without added weight, just as suggested to you. When I do these, I do them several times a week in the morning before I get dressed for the day. They invigorate me. I suggest they would do the same for you....and maybe help clear your head. ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 16, 2011, 10:57:49 PM
In regards to this leg thing, Mike Mentzer trained David Paul (one of the barbarian brothers) back in the early 90s, and he had him on his standard leg training protocol, which was one set of leg extensions til failure immediately followed by one set of leg presses til failure. So over the course of a 3 week time frame of one weekly leg workout of 2 sets total (leg extension pre-exhusted with leg press) Mr. Paul's leg strength went through the roof ie. leg extensions went from 250*15 to 250*33 and leg press went from the weight stack for 27 reps to 70 reps over this 3 week time frame, and he added 7 pounds of lean muscle tissue to his frame over this 3 week time frame. Mentzer had many clients experience similar or even better gains FACT

165 7-8% 16 inch arms FACT


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 17, 2011, 01:40:41 AM
MENTZER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUh5bZzQGeA


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 17, 2011, 02:24:26 AM
In regards to this leg thing, Mike Mentzer trained David Paul (one of the barbarian brothers) back in the early 90s, and he had him on his standard leg training protocol, which was one set of leg extensions til failure immediately followed by one set of leg presses til failure. So over the course of a 3 week time frame of one weekly leg workout of 2 sets total (leg extension pre-exhusted with leg press) Mr. Paul's leg strength went through the roof ie. leg extensions went from 250*15 to 250*33 and leg press went from the weight stack for 27 reps to 70 reps over this 3 week time frame, and he added 7 pounds of lean muscle tissue to his frame over this 3 week time frame. Mentzer had many clients experience similar or even better gains FACT

165 7-8% 16 inch arms FACT
How many times must I tell you fuck Mentzers methods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He built all his size training volume style early on and using lots of gear.


Once he downsized training,he just retained muscle while still using a ton of gear.

Sure he busted his balls but it was not from using HIT that he made his size gains........just retained them .

I am a close personal friend of IFBB pro Dave Mastorakis who knew and trained with Mike since they were both teenage priodigys.......Dave entered the America which Dave Draper won........he was 15 years old at the time so that`s how long I`m going back.


Dave told me in summary,once .................." Mike started blowing by me and Ray in progress and finally some months later ashamedely admitted to using roids.........this was in the late 60`s early 70`s...........so me and Ray got on `em too"!

Fuck Jones and Mentzer as far as HIT goes.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 17, 2011, 02:37:29 AM
How many times must I tell you fuck Mentzers methods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He built all his size training volume style early on and using lots of gear.


Once he downsized training,he just retained muscle while still using a ton of gear.

Sure he busted his balls but it was not from using HIT that he made his size gains........just retained them .

I am a close personal friend of IFBB pro Dave Mastorakis who knew and trained with Mike since they were both teenage priodigys.......Dave entered the America which Dave Draper won........he was 15 years old at the time so that`s how long I`m going back.


Dave told me in summary,once .................." Mike started blowing by me and Ray in progress and finally some months later ashamedely admitted to using roids.........this was in the late 60`s early 70`s...........so me and Ray got on `em too"!

Fuck Jones and Mentzer as far as HIT goes.


I hear ya man, I know that Mentzer built his size through anabolics, and I know that back in his prime he trained on a 2-way split as follows (with plenty of work sets per muscle group to boot):

Monday and Thursday: Chest, Tris, Legs

Tuesday and Friday: Back, Delts, Bis

Wednesday and Saturday and Sunday off

That was his bread and butter during his training career. But I'm talking about his theories/ideologies, not the actual way he trained when he was competing. He claims that his natural, drug-free clients would regularly gain 20-30 quality pounds over a 3 to 4 month time frame.

Again, these aren't my ideas, statements, theories, claims, they are his.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 17, 2011, 02:49:05 AM
I know that bro.

Dave Matorakis is a trainer and still trains his clieants as well as himself using HIT............they do get a lot stronger but they could/would using conventional methods as well.

Most clients don`t jave an extensive training history as far as weights go,so they`d more than likely respond to most stimuli anyfuckingway.

I`m still commenting in your threads......sorry.

I like busting your balls,but let me say,I also think you`re a good dude and I really do want you to succeed..............jus t not gonna` happen this way though at least not as best as it could happen.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 17, 2011, 03:16:45 AM
I like busting your balls,but let me say,I also think you`re a good dude and I really do want you to succeed..............jus t not gonna` happen this way though at least not as best as it could happen.

Thanks man, I appreciate that 8) And here's a vid just pour toi ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTXufk4ig4Q


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 17, 2011, 03:25:57 AM
So they aren't your ideas and theories ..and you have no way of knowing if those muscle gains are true (they aren't)....but that doesn't stop you from proclaiming them as FACTS  ::)

You are a spineless condom....and you post fucking nonsense just to be a prick

One of Getbigs most notorious "Outers" has told me he is in the process of outing you and will give me all of the info as he gets it. I'm looking forward to it.  :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 17, 2011, 06:04:10 AM
So they aren't your ideas and theories ..and you have no way of knowing if those muscle gains are true (they aren't)....but that doesn't stop you from proclaiming them as FACTS  ::)

You are a spineless condom....and you post fucking nonsense just to be a prick

One of Getbigs most notorious "Outers" has told me he is in the process of outing you and will give me all of the info as he gets it. I'm looking forward to it.  :D


How can out what we all no......he's Get Big's tiniest tit!


....."My muscles get pumped every workout"......no shit ::)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 17, 2011, 06:53:35 AM

How can out what we all no......he's Get Big's tiniest tit!


....."My muscles get pumped every workout"......no shit ::)

He's also very ugly...can you imagine walking around completely bald, with a nose like a toucan .....ugly beady eyes and a pock- marked face?

I'm sure women recoil in horror and children scream when he limps by on his gimpy polio leg....hahahaaaaa   :D



His new name is the "rat-faced pelican"

If I ever saw him I would beat the shit out of him and throw him down a flight of stairs. Then I would take him to an abandoned building and put hiis head in a giant vise, then I would let homeless people piss in his mouth and shit on his head until he starved to death.  LOLOLOL


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 17, 2011, 06:58:31 AM
He's also very ugly...can you imagine walking around completely bald, with a nose like a toucan .....ugly beady eyes and a pock- marked face?

I'm sure women recoil in horror and children scream when he limps by on his gimpy polio leg....hahahaaaaa   :D



His new name is the "rat-faced pelican"

If I ever saw him I would beat the shit out of him and throw him down a flight of stairs. Then I would take him to an abandoned building and put hiis head in a giant vise, then I would let homeless people piss in his mouth and shit on his head until he starved to death.  LOLOLOL

 ;D

He flaked out on entering Mr. Get Big twink competition! thats how small he is.


....hahaha...oh brother he wants to be a trainer ::)...can you imagine walking into a gym and asking about personal training and they refer you to him :o


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: kiwiol on June 17, 2011, 07:01:50 AM
ROFL @ Groink's posts! Conflict brings out the best in that man ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 17, 2011, 07:19:07 AM
;D

He flaked out on entering Mr. Get Big twink competition! thats how small he is.


....hahaha...oh brother he wants to be a trainer ::)...can you imagine walking into a gym and asking about personal training and they refer you to him :o



LOLOLOLOL.....OH MY GOD......HAHAHAAA! !!!!!!!!!
 
After he sat down with his potential "clients" for 15 minutes they would get up and say...."are you fucking retarded? ? I want to get in shape...not put an inch on my biceps and neglect the rest of my body....what do you mean "training legs is pointless" ?? ....I'm no trainer and even I know that's idiotic...and by the way buddy, the only thing "sub-8" on you are the dollars in your bank account...you weirdo "

"Cancel my membership...and tell that idiot I don't want to trade YouTube videos on Facebook. "............"BTW, What nationality is that freak? He speaks some gibberish language, couldn't understand what he was talking about half the time"


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 17, 2011, 07:33:21 AM


LOLOLOLOL.....OH MY GOD......HAHAHAAA! !!!!!!!!!
 
After he sat down with his potential "clients" for 15 minutes they would get up and say...."are you fucking retarded? ? I want to get in shape...not put an inch on my biceps and neglect the rest of my body....what do you mean "training legs is pointless" ?? ....I'm no trainer and even I know that's idiotic...and by the way buddy, the only thing "sub-8" on you are the dollars in your bank account...you weirdo "

"Cancel my membership...and tell that idiot I don't want to trade YouTube videos on Facebook. "............"BTW, What nationality is that freak? He speaks some gibberish language, couldn't understand what he was talking about half the time"


 ;D


Customer would say "you guys are funny,ok where's the real trainer"


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 17, 2011, 07:37:10 AM

 ;D


Customer would say "you guys are funny,ok where's the real trainer"


HAhahahahahaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!

"I'm being punked ......right??  Where's the cameras? ....this guy has a CANE "  :D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 17, 2011, 09:16:13 AM
ROFL @ Groink's posts! Conflict brings out the best in that man ;D
He was firing with both barrels there for a minute.......... no doubt!!  LOL  ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on June 17, 2011, 10:49:04 AM
I hate to disappoint all of my fans and admires here, but I'll be leaving tomorrow to go on a 2 week holiday with a ladyfriend of mine, and therefore I won't be posting any updates for a few weeks. Ciao!


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 17, 2011, 11:48:15 AM
I hate to disappoint all of my fans and admires here, but I'll be leaving tomorrow to go on a 2 week holiday with a ladyfriend of mine, and therefore I won't be posting any updates for a few weeks. Ciao!

Translation :  I cant deal with this abuse anymore.

LOL....this jerkoff goes from just getting a new apt. And looking for a job....to taking a three week vacation....  ::)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on June 17, 2011, 12:11:53 PM
I hate to disappoint all of my fans and admires here, but I'll be leaving tomorrow to go on a 2 week holiday with a ladyfriend of mine, and therefore I won't be posting any updates for a few weeks. Ciao!

Have a nice time on vacation with your lady friend. No doubt, you be missed greatly here in the Getbig forums. Then again, the folks here will probably move on to another poster with whom to have a laugh.

Maybe a little time away from posting on Getbig will give you a chance to reflect on why you seem intent on setting yourself up as a whipping boy here. Have you discussed this with your therapist?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on June 20, 2011, 07:09:17 AM
Translation :  I cant deal with this abuse anymore.

LOL....this jerkoff goes from just getting a new apt. And looking for a job....to taking a three week vacation....  ::)


Phase 1....start a blog claiming how your gonna get shredded but instead just end up skinny.
Phase 2....get abused for spewing bullshit.
Phase 3....run away and claim you're going on vacation.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 20, 2011, 07:58:51 AM

Phase 1....start a blog claiming how your gonna get shredded but instead just end up skinny.
Phase 2....get abused for spewing bullshit.
Phase 3....run away and claim you're going on vacation.
,@
Remember CAL...its shredded and put on muscle at the same....all done naturally by eating whatever you want.  Its like he took every bullshit training philosophy spewed here and rolled them into one giant ball of crap

There are very few people that I would want gone from the nets....most add something to this place and make it what it is.

He added nothing and I hope he's gone for good...100% pure asshole


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: wes on June 21, 2011, 12:29:31 AM
C`mon Groink,why hold back like that, let it out and tell us how you really feel about him.  ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 07, 2011, 12:07:16 PM
Hey....shouldn't the little piece of shit have been back already ?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Primemuscle on July 07, 2011, 12:49:48 PM
Hey....shouldn't the little piece of shit have been back already ?

Leave him alone. He's on vacation with his girlfriend.


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: CalvinH on July 08, 2011, 05:38:10 AM
Hey....shouldn't the little piece of shit have been back already ?


He's posted....just not in this thread ;)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Meso_z on August 23, 2011, 02:49:25 AM
dj181 is on a business trip and will be back soon.  8) ;D


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 27, 2013, 01:27:21 AM
sub-7 ??? ??? ???

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=472566.0;attach=515024;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=472566.0;attach=515025;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=472566.0;attach=515028;image)


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: Psychopath on April 27, 2013, 02:07:29 AM
Are you still starving yourself?


Title: Re: My 3 phase project
Post by: dj181 on April 27, 2013, 02:17:27 AM
i'm @ 1800 cals roughly

i'll post new pics here in about 10 days, and i should be sitting @ 4% then

then i'll switch gears and stay @ sub-6 while gaining about 3-5 kg over the course of 3-4 months

my ideal weight for my height and frame is 75 kg

right now i'm weighing 71 kg