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I would vote for him in a heartbeat. Great American - would make the communist traitor obama cry like a bitch.
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Dream 2012 ticket - Herman Cain/ Lt. Col. Alan West
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On a side note, its nice to see getbig's "McWay" aka McMoron finally reveal himself. Go get 'em, Herm/Alan! ::)
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Please tell me what obama has ever done that remotely compares to Cain/West?
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Herman Cain OWNING Clinton. Ha ha ha ha ha- Clinton wanted to cry by the end of this.
FUCKING OWNED!
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hA HA HA
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He's the guy who ran Godfather's Pizza, correct? I've heard of this guy before.
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Imagine Cain / West ?
That would probably result in a 45 state landslide against obama.
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I am cautious towards his true motives. He doesn't ever really mention how he was deputy chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve bank. Is he for the global banking cartel or an honest looking to improve the country?
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I am cautious towards his true motives. He doesn't ever really mention how he was deputy chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve bank. Is he for the global banking cartel or an honest looking to improve the country?
He has come out for a gold standard, so that is good.
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Im sure the far left will call him an uncle tom because he actually works for a living and not invested in agitating people to beg for more taxpayer financed free shit from others.
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Im sure the far left will call him an uncle tom because he actually works for a living and not invested in agitating people to beg for more taxpayer financed free shit from others.
And, these would be the same people who had a heart attack about "Barack the Magic Negro".
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And, these would be the same people who had a heart attack about "Barack the Magic Negro".
Cain went to Morehouse College, worked his way up and performed in the private sector.
So of course - he will be alienated by the far left pieces of trash who only cnsider someone "black" if they are a shill for big govt, welfare, redistribution of wealth, sides with america's enemies, and perpetuates the democrat slave plantation.
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Cain went to Morehouse College, worked his way up and performed in the private sector.
So of course - he will be alienated by the far left pieces of trash who only cnsider someone "black" if they are a shill for big govt, welfare, redistribution of wealth, sides with america's enemies, and perpetuates the democrat slave plantation.
An HBCU grad? SWEET!!!! This guys seems to be a good egg!!!
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http://www.hermancain.com/inner.asp?z=1
About Herman Cain: My Story
I was raised in Atlanta, Georgia by loving and hardworking parents. We grew up poor, but we grew up happy. Things weren’t always easy, but my mom and dad knew that if they kept their faith in God, faith in themselves and their faith in the greatest country in the world, they, too, could achieve their American Dream.
That dream, we discovered, was for my parents to own their own home and watch their two sons graduate from college. Those dreams required that my father work three jobs to support our family.
The first dream was realized in a brick home on Albert Street. I can still recall the excitement of the day, as he surprised us—even my mother—when he drove us to our new home.
Their second dream was realized when I proudly accepted my degree in mathematics from Morehouse College in 1967 and my brother graduated from Morris Brown College. Both of my father’s American Dreams were achieved. Now, I set off to achieve mine.
One year after graduating, I married the love of my life, Gloria. And together, we started our journey to achieve our Dreams. This meant relocating to Indiana where I would begin my Master’s degree program at Purdue University, while working full-time as a mathematician at the Department of the Navy.
After earning my Master’s degree and six years working for the Department of the Navy, we returned home to Atlanta, where I began to climb the corporate ladder with the Coca-Cola Company. I faced challenges, but I always remembered the values my parents taught me. With enough faith and determination, I knew I could go as high in corporate America as I desired.
I enjoyed a successful career at the Coca-Cola Company and later moved to the Pillsbury Company. Within a short period, I rose to the position of Vice President. When I got there, I thought I had already achieved my American Dream on the 31st floor of the new Pillsbury Corporate Headquarters with a corner office. But I quickly realized I wanted something more.
I resigned my position and started on another path- the restaurant industry. I knew that in order to be successful, I had to start from “the ground up.” This meant broiling hamburgers at Pillsbury’s Burger King division. After nine months of a grueling restaurant experience, I was assigned to lead a low performing region of 450 Burger King restaurants. Within three years, we became the best-performing region in the U.S.
I could have been content with my executive role with one of America’s biggest corporations. Instead, after consulting with my wife, we decided to take one of the biggest risks of our marriage: picking up our young family, relocating yet again and accepting the call to become CEO and President of Godfather’s Pizza, a company teetering on the edge of bankruptcy.
In 14 months, we turned the company around and returned it to profitability, and I ultimately led my management team to a buyout of Godfather’s Pizza. The company never went bankrupt, and today, there are still hundreds of locations across the U.S.
My success at turning around Godfather’s got the attention of fellow restaurateurs around the nation who invited me to join the Board of Directors of the National Restaurant Association and later elected me its chairman. In 1996, they retained me as the full-time President and the CEO of the National Restaurant Association, working on behalf of thousands of small businesses and entrepreneurs.
In 1994, as chairman of the National Restaurant Association, I had the opportunity to speak with President Clinton during a nationally televised town hall meeting. Here, I challenged the President regarding the impact on businesses if his health care overhaul proposal were passed.
President Clinton attempted to assure me and the millions of viewers watching at home that his legislation would not harm American business owners and their employees.
I was skeptical. “Quite honestly Mr. President, your calculations are incorrect,” I said. “In the competitive marketplace, it simply doesn’t work that way.”
Through these and other appearances on behalf of the National Restaurant Association, I began working with business leaders across all sectors of the American economy. This led to my acceptance of a position on the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, and I was subsequently elected their chairman.
Today, I host a radio talk show, “The Herman Cain Show,” on Atlanta’s WSB 750 AM/ 95.5 FM. I serve as a regular contributor on several broadcast networks and as a keynote speaker at conferences and events around the nation.
Despite the many professional commitments of my life, I continued to enjoy most the time spent with family and friends. As my children got married and had their own children, I knew that I had an extraordinary obligation to do what I could to make this a safe and prosperous nation for them. The paramount joys in my life are my wife, Gloria, our children and our grandchildren.
I am grateful for the many professional successes I have enjoyed. I am grateful for the steadfast loyalty and unwavering love of my family and friends. And I am grateful for this country that is so exceptional that I was afforded the opportunity to achieve my American Dreams.
I’m not done yet!
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No hand over the heart during the national anthem. I've seen guys at sporting events just stand there. Not necessarily the end of the world, but it would be nice to show a hint of patriotism, every so often.
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I would vote for him in a heartbeat. Great American - would make the communist traitor obama cry like a bitch.
wow you would vote for him over obama,boy i bet that that's a big surprise to everyone here.he says he can beat obama,what did you think he would say i can't beat obama ::)
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Please tell me what obama has ever done that remotely compares to Cain/West?
Winning POTUS for one.
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Imagine Cain / West ?
That would probably result in a 45 state landslide against obama.
I don't understand what is going on in this clip. Is the speaking really asking if America was attacked before it was even founded? And is West then trying to say they were by association?
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West was schooling that fool on the history of muslim violence.
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West was schooling that fool on the history of muslim violence.
Really? Because the early muslim fighters actually were found to be rather civilized in battle. They had a code of ethics and if you read up on the subject, you'll find they weren't actually the devil incarnate. Quiet the opposite.
"Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy's flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone." - Abu Bakr, Muhammads successor.
I think both you and this West fellow need a history lesson. Also note this is about the historical armies of Muhammad and not current terrorists.
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Really? Because the early muslim fighters actually were found to be rather civilized in battle. They had a code of ethics and if you read up on the subject, you'll find they weren't actually the devil incarnate. Quiet the opposite.
"Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy's flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone." - Abu Bakr, Muhammads successor.
I think both you and this West fellow need a history lesson. Also note this is about the historical armies of Muhammad and not current terrorists.
Ha ha ha ha ha - are you freaking kidding?
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This quote from Oliverus Scholasticus after the Islamic armies had defeated the Franks during the crusades and how he had actually supplied them with food "Who could doubt that such goodness, friendship and charity come from God? Men whose parents, sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, had died in agony at our hands, whose lands we took, whom we drove naked from their homes, revived us with their own food when we were dying of hunger and showered us with kindness even when we were in their power."
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Ha ha ha ha ha - are you freaking kidding?
I would think you need a history lesson there 333. No army of the 9th century was particularly good by todays standards. But history has shown that the Islamic armies of that time were in fact quite ahead with their way of thinking. Especially when it came to ethical behaviour. I'm sure they didn't always follow the standards, armies rarely do, but as you can see and read from first hand quotes. It was not and is not the same as the barbarian extremists of today.
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I will also add that yes there were massacres and be-headings and all the other nasty bits that dark to middle ages warfare had.
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I will also add that yes there were massacres and be-headings and all the other nasty bits that dark to middle ages warfare had.
Read what Churchill said about muslms and you will understand why they have always been a warlike people.
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Now I've seen it all. Hands down the most ignorant apologist for Islam I've seen. This guy is actually justifying the Muslim attempt to conquer the Middle East, Europe (and the rest of the world, for that matter).
It's nice that they were civilized after they defeated the Franks. Too bad they weren't very civilized when they spend the 100+ years prior to the Crusades slaughtering Christians, Jews and every other non-Muslim group across the Middle East. ::)
Read what Churchill said about muslms and you will understand why they have always been a warlike people.
Why waste your time with this apologist? Time and time again he shows himself to be little more than a parrot for MSM talking points. Woefully uninformed. Thankfully this clown is part of the shrinking minority.
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Now I've seen it all. Hands down the most ignorant apologist for Islam I've seen. This guy is actually justifying the Muslim attempt to conquer the Middle East, Europe (and the rest of the world, for that matter).
It's nice that they were civilized after they defeated the Franks. Too bad they weren't very civilized when they spend the 100+ years prior to the Crusades slaughtering Christians, Jews and every other non-Muslim group across the Middle East. ::)
Why waste your time with this apologist? Time and time again he shows himself to be little more than a parrot for MSM talking points. Woefully uninformed. Thankfully this clown is part of the shrinking minority.
Hahaha this is awesome. I love how you both walk right into the stupid wall. Perhaps you should have a look for yourself. The MSM wasn't around in the 9th century, nor is the MSM producing books on this period of history.
I will quote two well known historians, especially the former - "In their wars of conquest, however, the Muslims exhibited a degree of tolerance which puts many Christian Nations to shame." E. Alexander Powell - The struggle for power in moslem asia
This is E Alexander Powell - http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War/E_Alexander_Powell/E_Alexander_Powell_01.htm (http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War/E_Alexander_Powell/E_Alexander_Powell_01.htm)
History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated - De Lacy O'Leary - Islam at the Crossroad 1923.
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Hahaha this is awesome. I love how you both walk right into the stupid wall. Perhaps you should have a look for yourself. The MSM wasn't around in the 9th century, nor is the MSM producing books on this period of history.
I will quote two well known historians, especially the former - "In their wars of conquest, however, the Muslims exhibited a degree of tolerance which puts many Christian Nations to shame." E. Alexander Powell - The struggle for power in moslem asia
This is E Alexander Powell - http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War/E_Alexander_Powell/E_Alexander_Powell_01.htm (http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War/E_Alexander_Powell/E_Alexander_Powell_01.htm)
History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated - De Lacy O'Leary - Islam at the Crossroad 1923.
Ahh, so you throw out one of the tiny handful of historians who claim otherwise. Meanwhile, there's a mountain of evidence saying that they're full of shit. But hey, it's not like you to cherry pick your information regarding Islam. Not like you're are a huge fan of revisionist history (something you've been called out on here before), right? ::)
But you think I walked into a wall? You're actually making excuses for Muslims showing tolerance AFTER they conquered the people. Whoopdeedoo, in some instances they chose not to slaughter all of them after the fact. They only enslaved them, raped them, pillaged them and subjugated them into subhuman second-class citizens paying the jizya.
Huzzah for "tolerance"! You really are one stupid, ignorant, Muslim douche.
This thread is a perfect example of why you are a monumental joke on this board and why you end up tucking tail and running anytime you hang around a thread about Islam long enough for you to stick your foot in your mouth.
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Haha mountain of evidence. More like selective evidence. You have zero balance and really are woefully uniformed. It's hilarious to come on here and try to see you justify your generalized nonsense with the help of 333's ignorance. Thanks for the laughs! It's like you think all armies were somehow good at this time. "good" must be taken in context, something you seem to know little about.
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Haha mountain of evidence. More like selective evidence. You have zero balance and really are woefully uniformed. It's hilarious to come on here and try to see you justify your generalized nonsense with the help of 333's ignorance. Thanks for the laughs! It's like you think all armies were somehow good at this time. "good" must be taken in context, something you seem to know little about.
Selective evidence? That's exactly what you're using. LOL.
You are so ignorant on this topic that it's stunning. I'm almost convinced that you're a Muslim given how much spin you put on your posts. Thankfully, you're in the shrinking minority of stooges who think like you do.
Here's some selective evidence for you:
MUSLIM CRUSADES Started Four Centuries Before the Western Crusades
Islam has killed about 270 million people: 120 million Africans*, 60 million Christians, 80 million Hindus, 10 million Buddhists, etc.”
Forced conversions to Islam have been the norm, across three continents—Asia, Africa, and Europe—for over 13 centuries. Orders for conversion were decreed under all the early Islamic dynasties, under both Seljuk and Ottoman Turkish rule, and in Persia/Iran and the Indian subcontinent, etc.
Islam has been at a continuous war against non-Muslims for almost 1400 years (since Muhammad.) Following is a list of the major Islamic invasions preceding the Western Crusades.
ISLAMIC CRUSADES
630 – Muhammad conquers Mecca from his base in Medina.
632 – Muhammad dies in Medina. Islam controls the Hijaz.
636 – Muslims conquest of Syria, and the surrounding lands, all Christian – including Palestine and Iraq.
637 – Muslim Crusaders conquer Iraq (some date it in 635 or 636)
638 – Muslim Crusaders conquer and annex Jerusalem, taking it from the Byzantines.
638 – 650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iran, except along Caspian Sea.
639 – 642 Muslim Crusaders conquer Egypt.
641 – Muslim Crusaders control Syria and Palestine.
643 – 707 Muslim Crusaders conquer North Africa.
644 – 650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Cyprus, Tripoli in North Africa, and establish Islamic rule in Iran, Afghanistan, and Sind.
673 – 678 Arabs besiege Constantinople, capital of Byzantine Empire
691 – Dome of the Rock is completed in Jerusalem, only six decades after Muhammad’s death.
710 – 713 Muslim Crusaders conquer the lower Indus Valley.
711 – 713 Muslim Crusaders conquer Spain and impose the kingdom of Andalus. The Muslim conquest moves into Europe.
718 – Conquest of Spain complete.
732 – Muslim invasion of France is stopped at the Battle of Poitiers / Battle of Tours. The Franks, under their leader
Charles Martel (the grandfather of Charlemagne), defeat the Muslims and turn them back out of France.
762 – Foundation of Baghdad
785 – Foundation of the Great Mosque of Cordova
789 – Rise of Idrisid amirs (Muslim Crusaders) in Morocco; Christoforos, a Muslim who converted to Christianity, is executed.
800 – Autonomous Aghlabid dynasty (Muslim Crusaders) in Tunisia
807 – Caliph Harun al—Rashid orders the destruction of non-Muslim prayer houses &
of the church of Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem
809 – Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sardinia, Italy
813 – Christians in Palestine are attacked; many flee the country
831 – Muslim Crusaders capture Palermo, Italy; raids in Southern Italy
837 – 901 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sicily, raid Corsica, Italy, France
869 – 883 Revolt of black slaves in Iraq
909 – Rise of the Fatimid Caliphate in Tunisia; these Muslim Crusaders occupy Sicily, Sardinia
928 – 969 Byzantine military revival, they retake old territories, such as Cyprus (964) and Tarsus (969)
937 – The Church of the Resurrection (aka Church of Holy Sepulcher) is burned down by Muslims;
more churches in Jerusalem are attacked
960 – Conversion of Qarakhanid Turks to Islam
969 – Fatimids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Egypt and found Cairo
973 – Israel and southern Syria are again conquered by the Fatimids
1003 – First persecutions by al—Hakim; the Church of St. Mark in Fustat, Egypt, is destroyed
1009 – Destruction of the Church of the Resurrection by al—Hakim (see 937)
1012 – Beginning of al—Hakim’s oppressive decrees against Jews and Christians
1050 – Creation of Almoravid (Muslim Crusaders) movement in Mauretania; Almoravids (aka Murabitun)
are coalition of western Saharan Berbers; followers of Islam, focusing on the Quran, the hadith, and Maliki law.
1071 – Battle of Manzikert, Seljuk Turks (Muslim Crusaders) defeat Byzantines and occupy much of Anatolia
1071 – Turks (Muslim Crusaders) invade Palestine
1073 – Conquest of Jerusalem by Turks (Muslim Crusaders)
1075 – Seljuks (Muslim Crusaders) capture Nicea (Iznik) and make it their capital in Anatolia
1076 – Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) conquer western Ghana
1086 – Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) send help to Andalus, Battle of Zallaca
1090 – 1091 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) occupy all of Andalus except Saragossa and Balearic Islands
START OF WESTERN CRUSADES
Only after all of the Islamic aggressive invasions is when Western Christendom launches its first Crusades.
1094 – Byzantine emperor Alexius Comnenus I asks western Christendom for help
against Seljuk (Muslim Turks) invasions of his territory
1095 – Pope Urban II preaches first Crusade; they capture Jerusalem in 1099
Move along, clown.
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What's even funnier is seeing you meltdown and pretty soon start to post qu'ran verses as if they are to be taken literally. Then will come some selective massacres, which happened by all armies at that time, and sadly still does. Once again context is helpful. Then will come the 'you're a muslim or apologist or some other rubbish' meanwhile history and truth will contradict your small vision of things yet again. This is quite a good laugh i must say, and it is as your expense ;D
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Haha hilarious we aren't talking about 21st century but thanks for bring the dumb
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What's even funnier is seeing you meltdown and pretty soon start to post qu'ran verses as if they are to be taken literally.
Plenty of Muslims do take them literally, hence their affinity for waging "jihad" and chopping heads off. Muslims taking the verses in the Koran literally is exactly why we're in the mess we are today, dipshit.
Do you feel like owning yourself some more, you woefully uninformed moron? Calling meltdown while you cherry pick revisionist history and make a fool of yourself doesn't really accomplish much.
Haha hilarious we aren't talking about 21st century but thanks for bring the dumb
Yes, let's not talk about the 21st century. It's much easier to drag up revisionist events from centuries ago because you just might be able to spin your way through them. Too bad it failed...again.
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What's even funnier is seeing you meltdown and pretty soon start to post qu'ran verses as if they are to be taken literally.
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That beheading thing about "Smite them by the neck" thing seems to be taken very literally by these barbarians.
Daniel Pearl
Phil Anderson
Nick Berg
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Hahaha context. I never said the Muslim armies didn't conquer or kill, what a idiot you are for even thinking that. I said and i stand by it their attitude towards war was very civilized for the period of time. Waging war does not disprove that. Squirm squirm squirm your boat...
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What's even funnier is seeing you meltdown and pretty soon start to post qu'ran verses as if they are to be taken literally.
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That beheading thing about "Smite them by the neck" thing seems to be taken very literally by these barbarians.
Daniel Pearl
Phil Anderson
Nick Berg
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That whole jihad thing the Islamic holy texts talk about seems to be taken pretty literally, too. ::)
Hahaha context. I never said the Muslim armies didn't conquer or kill, what a idiot you are for even thinking that. I said and i stand by it their attitude towards war was very civilized for the period of time. Waging war does not disprove that. Squirm squirm squirm your boat...
A historian claims they were civilized for the period of time. Wow! That's got me convinced. I'll just ignore the litany of books, historians and other experts saying otherwise. Islam truly is a Religion of Peace because they chose not to act uncivilized by medieval standards!
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Plenty of Muslims do take them literally, hence their affinity for waging "jihad" and chopping heads off. Muslims taking the verses in the Koran literally is exactly why we're in the mess we are today, dipshit.
Do you feel like owning yourself some more, you woefully uninformed moron? Calling meltdown while you cherry pick revisionist history and make a fool of yourself doesn't really accomplish much.
Yes, let's not talk about the 21st century. It's much easier to drag up revisionist events from centuries ago because you just might be able to spin your way through them. Too bad it failed...again.
And those Muslims are idiots.
The whole purpose of the intended question was regarding some 9th century battle being against or for Americans. Hence the time period discussed. Nice deflection attempt. :D
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That whole jihad thing the Islamic holy texts talk about seems to be taken pretty literally, too. ::)
Sad isn't it? I agree. Much like the Bible need context so does the Qu'ran
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And those Muslims are idiots.
The whole purpose of the intended question was regarding some 9th century battle being against or for Americans. Hence the time period discussed. Nice deflection attempt. :D
Deflect what? I just listed you 400 years of Muslims conquering Christians across the entire Middle East while your entire argument revolves around a historian's claim that they were peaceful. Damn, you sure owned me.
Not a single non-Muslim died when they spent 400 years conquering, subjugated, raping and pillaging the Christian and other non-Muslim populations across the ME. Mohammed himself wasn't a direct participant into 28 or so battles. ::)
Sad isn't it? I agree. Much like the Bible need context so does the Qu'ran
When in doubt, fall back on the moral equivalence argument. You really don't have the cognitive firepower to debate this subject.
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Deflect what? I just listed you 400 years of Muslims conquering Christians across the entire Middle East while your entire argument revolves around a historian's claim that they were peaceful. Damn, you sure owned me.
Not a single non-Muslim died when they spent 400 years conquering, subjugated, raping and pillaging the Christian and other non-Muslim populations across the ME. Mohammed himself wasn't a direct participant into 28 or so battles. ::)
When in doubt, fall back on the moral equivalence argument. You really don't have the cognitive firepower to debate this subject.
What is your point of the statement? That Muslims never fought and tried to convert? Ha! I have news for you, the Christians did the exact same thing. It has been apart of our history and is our history. It is the essential truth - conquer or be forgotten.
I have never not acknowledged that. What i have said is that for the time the Muslim armies were quite forward thinking. Saying they waged war before the crusades and converted and killed people is the most foolish statement you're ever written.
I never once said the Muslim armies were peaceful, but they were not the demon extremists of today, and they certainly were not worse than the Christian armies of the time. As i have showed they were in some ways better when taken in the context of the period. You have disproved nothing but that the point of this argument went so far over your head you thought i said they never waged war and were victims of the crusades. Haha talk about need help with your talking points, that's not even remotely on base.
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So you're actually arguing that Muslims have regressed over the last 1000 years. Meanwhile, the rest of the world has made tremendous steps forward. Awesome argument.
But your opinion that they weren't the demon extremists they are today is just that, an OPINION. And an amazingly uninformed one, at that.
Stick to your revisionist history. It really is all you've got at this point.
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So you're actually arguing that Muslims have regressed over the last 1000 years. Meanwhile, the rest of the world has made tremendous steps forward. Awesome argument.
But your opinion that they weren't the demon extremists they are today is just that, an OPINION. And an amazingly uninformed one, at that.
Stick to your revisionist history. It really is all you've got at this point.
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Even apes and domesticated dogs, cats, fish, and pigeons have rogressed more than these vultures.
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Even apes and domesticated dogs, cats, fish, and pigeons have rogressed more than these vultures.
Hahahahaha!
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So you're actually arguing that Muslims have regressed over the last 1000 years. Meanwhile, the rest of the world has made tremendous steps forward. Awesome argument.
But your opinion that they weren't the demon extremists they are today is just that, an OPINION. And an amazingly uninformed one, at that.
Stick to your revisionist history. It really is all you've got at this point.
Yeah i do actually believe many Muslims have regressed whilst Christian nations have progressed and become more enlightened. Not all Muslims of course would fall into this, but there is a serious disconnect between the extremists of today and the armies of the past they so wish to replicate.
I don't need to opinion such a statement. There is fact and history to back it up.
This is a good read on the subject of Muslim warfare.
http://insct.syr.edu/uploadedFiles/insct/uploadedfiles/PDFs/Aboul-Enein.Zuhur.Islamic%20Rulings%20on%20Warfare%281%29.pdf (http://insct.syr.edu/uploadedFiles/insct/uploadedfiles/PDFs/Aboul-Enein.Zuhur.Islamic%20Rulings%20on%20Warfare%281%29.pdf)
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Even apes and domesticated dogs, cats, fish, and pigeons have rogressed more than these vultures.
Wow such insightful work there 333. You are what you hate!
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"After completing his master's degree, Cain left the Navy department and began working for Coca-Cola as a business analyst. In 1977, he joined Pillsbury where he rose to the position of vice president by the early 1980s.
He left his executive post to work for Burger King, a Pillsbury subsidiary, managing 400 stores in the Philadelphia area. Under Cain's leadership, his region went from the least profitable for Burger King to the most profitable in three years.
This prompted Pillsbury to appoint him as president and CEO of Godfather's Pizza, another subsidiary. Within 14 months, Cain had returned Godfather's to profitability.
In 1988, Cain and a group of investors bought Godfather's from Pillsbury. Cain continued as CEO until 1996, when he resigned to become CEO of the National Restaurant Association where he had previously been chairman concurrently with his role at Godfather's."
http://www.think-it-inc.com/HermanCain.htm
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Cain schooled that dope Clinton and will do the same to Obama.
And he is the perfect person to do it.
He speaks clearly, from a knowledge base, from experience and education, and age.
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Role in the defeat of the Clinton health care plan
September 19, 1994
The Clintons would later blame "Harry and Louise," the fictional couple in the ads aired by the insurance industry, for undermining health reform. But the real saboteurs are named Herman and John. Herman Cain is the president of Godfather's Pizza and president-elect of the National Restaurant Association. An articulate black entrepreneur, Cain transformed the debate when he challenged Clinton at a town meeting in Kansas City, Mo.
Cain asked the president what he was supposed to say to the workers he would have to lay off because of the cost of the "employer mandate." Clinton responded that there would be plenty of subsidies for small businessmen, but Cain persisted. "Quite honestly, your calculation is inaccurate," he told the president. "In the competitive marketplace it simply doesn't work that way."
http://www.newsweek.com/1994/09/18/the-lost-chance.print.html
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Cain was born to working-class parents in Georgia and earned a degree in mathematics from Morehouse College, then a master’s in computer science from Purdue.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1969/12/herman-cain-the-gop-wild-card/8367/
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Role in the defeat of the Clinton health care plan
September 19, 1994
The Clintons would later blame "Harry and Louise," the fictional couple in the ads aired by the insurance industry, for undermining health reform. But the real saboteurs are named Herman and John. Herman Cain is the president of Godfather's Pizza and president-elect of the National Restaurant Association. An articulate black entrepreneur, Cain transformed the debate when he challenged Clinton at a town meeting in Kansas City, Mo.
Cain asked the president what he was supposed to say to the workers he would have to lay off because of the cost of the "employer mandate." Clinton responded that there would be plenty of subsidies for small businessmen, but Cain persisted. "Quite honestly, your calculation is inaccurate," he told the president. "In the competitive marketplace it simply doesn't work that way."
http://www.newsweek.com/1994/09/18/the-lost-chance.print.html
That clip i posted is priceless. Clinton had a smug look on his face and Cain wiped it right off his face.
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Cain was born to working-class parents in Georgia and earned a degree in mathematics from Morehouse College, then a master’s in computer science from Purdue.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1969/12/herman-cain-the-gop-wild-card/8367/
He really is impressive. I would work 24/7 for him if he gets the nomination. And if he appointed Alan west as VP, I might just . . . . .
Tat woud be a duo and tag team that i believe could get easily 45 states in 2012. Those two together would be a force of nature.
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Herman Cain OWNING Clinton. Ha ha ha ha ha- Clinton wanted to cry by the end of this.
FUCKING OWNED!
Clinton = A-Bomb dropped on his head.
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I would also support Cain/Gary Johnson (he has climbed mount Everest and vetoed over 700 spending bills as New Mexico governor)
Cain/Christie
Cain/Paul
Cain/Jesse "the body" Ventura
maybe even Cain/Bachman
All have greater experience in the real world than Obama and his wall street bought and paid for cabinet.
Anybody but the CIA/globalist controlled Huckabee, Romney, Palin, Guliani I am so tired of those four.
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I like Herman Cain, but look at what he says at 8:18 of his CPAC speech. Now, what he says is absolutely correct, but unfortunately you cant make comments like that and run for President of the United States. I fear he just isnt discretionary and tactful enough in his speeches to sway moderates.
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I like when he called out the economic illiterates.
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id vote for him.. Morehouse grad bitchess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sike.. i wouldnt vote for him. Ill wait.. if NAder runs.. hes got my vote
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id vote for him.. Morehouse grad bitchess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sike.. i wouldnt vote for him. Ill wait.. if NAder runs.. hes got my vote
You sound like a very reasonable and intelligent fellow. Can you get more Obama zombies like yourself to vote for Nader?
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You sound like a very reasonable and intelligent fellow. Can you get more Obama zombies like yourself to vote for Nader?
who said i like obama..
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Why wouldnt you vote for him?
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who said i like obama..
Well, you are black and you certainly hate America, so I suppose I just jumped to conclusions.
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Cain looks clean and articulate to me.
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Cain looks clean and articulate to me.
Racist post reported.
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Well, you are black and you certainly hate America, so I suppose I just jumped to conclusions.
lol.. ok
Cain looks clean and articulate to me.
yes.. because he is a Morehouse man... Go tigers
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It was a biden joke.
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Is this man serious competition for Barack Obama?
Florida Courier ^ | 3/10/11 | FCAdmin
Herman Cain, former pizza chain CEO, considers running for president FROM WIRE REPORTS
Herman Cain won a presidential straw poll at a tea-party event in Phoenix recently, which brings up an obvious question: Who is he?
Other than one of the few Republicans to have declared his interest in his party’s presidential nomination, Cain, 65, is the former chief executive officer of Godfather’s Pizza, and he worked as a conservative radio host in Atlanta for years.
Herman Cain
Herman Cain He has become a tea-party favorite through his advocacy of, among other things, the so-called Fair Tax, which would eliminate the federal tax code in favor of a national consumption tax on retail sales. He also supports returning to the gold standard.
‘Black American patriot’
His radio chops are evident in high-spirited speeches such as the ones he delivered at the Tea Party Patriots conference in Arizona and at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) earlier in February.
"We are an exceptional nation, and we want to keep it that way," he said to raucous cheers in Phoenix. "I don’t know any mediocre Americans."
Cain, an African-American who says liberals are destroying the American dream, hasn’t hesitated to invoke his background when comparing himself to President Barack Obama.
"I’ve been called so many names for being a Black American patriot who happens to be conservative," he said at CPAC. "You will get called racist just because you happen to disagree with the president, who happens to be Black. Well, they call me racist too, because I disagree with the president."
‘Creating quite a buzz’
He takes credit for helping to derail President Bill Clinton’s health-care initiative during his first administration. As the chairman of the National Restaurant Association in 1994, Cain said his opposition during a televised town hall helped build momentum that forced Clinton to abandon the effort.
Cain won the most support among those attending the Tea Party Patriots gathering while Ron Paul, who won the straw poll at CPAC, attracted the most votes overall when online voters were added.
Cain started his exploratory committee earlier this year – and while he hasn’t made a full-blown commitment to running, a "Draft Cain" movement on the Web has sprouted.
"He’s creating quite a buzz,’’ said former Iowa Republican Party Chairman Richard Schwarm. "He is someone Iowa caucus-goers are going to take very seriously.’’
A long shot
Steve Scheffler, a member of the Republican National Committee and leading social conservative in Iowa, said Cain was "beginning to garner some interest’’ in the state. Last fall Cain campaigned for two state legislators aligned with the tea party who defeated incumbent Democrats.
Republican strategist Rich Galen, who worked on former Sen. Fred Thompson bid for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination, said some conservative supporters are noting that it didn’t take long for Barack Obama to rise from community activist to U.S. senator to president.
Schwarm said even little-known candidates can compete in Iowa against those with better national name recognition. In 2000, Steve Forbes finished a strong second in the caucuses behind George W. Bush but far ahead of John McCain.
"He is a long shot, but so is almost everyone else right now,’’ Schwarm said. "The variable is how active will the tea party people be.’’
Cain said his business success has left him wealthy, but not at a level where he could self-finance a campaign. Cain said he’s eager to travel through Iowa and other early-nominating states, meeting one-on-one with voters.
"Leadership is the ability to take a good idea and sell it,’’ said Cain. "When the public understands it, they will demand it. You’ve got to be able to sell the idea.’’
The Associated Press and McClatchy Tribune/MCT were used in compiling this report. More information on Cain: http://www.hermancain.com
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I would also support Cain/Gary Johnson (he has climbed mount Everest and vetoed over 700 spending bills as New Mexico governor)
Cain/Christie
Cain/Paul
Cain/Jesse "the body" Ventura
maybe even Cain/Bachman
All have greater experience in the real world than Obama and his wall street bought and paid for cabinet.
Anybody but the CIA/globalist controlled Huckabee, Romney, Palin, Guliani I am so tired of those four.
Good luck getting a single delegate with that scenario of not-a-chance-in-hell repube groupings you've put together. ::) Your boy Cain will do... oh, about as well as Keyes has done the last 3-4 times he's run for prez. lol
Face it, you shitholes will have to settle for voting for someone like Tim "Good &" Pawlenty, Mitt "The Phony" Romney, or Mitch "Too Short" Daniels if you want even a sniff at getting the White House.
Looney Tunes candidates like Cain, Palin, Bachmann, Paul, Gingrich, etc., will have Obama win 400 electoral votes and win on a scale not seen since LBJ slaughtered Goldwater.
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Why is Cain looney toons? Cause he actually worked for a living and did not spend his career as a welfare leech and parasite like obama and his fat assed angry lobster cafoning wife?
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Clinton = A-Bomb dropped on his head.
BUMP
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2012: The GOP's weirdness factor
By GEORGE F. WILL
March 7, 2011
If pessimism isn't creeping into Republicans' thinking about their 2012 presidential prospects, that is another reason for pessimism. This is because it indicates they do not understand that sensible Americans, who pay scant attention to presidential politics at this point in the electoral cycle, must nevertheless be detecting vibrations of weirdness emanating from people associated with the party.
The most recent vibrator is Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor, who won the 2008 GOP Iowa caucuses and reached that year's national convention with more delegates than Mitt Romney and might run again. Huckabee was asked by Steve Malzberg, a talk-radio host, this:
"Don't you think it's fair also to ask [Barack Obama] . . . how come we don't have a health record, we don't have a college record, we don't have a birth cer -- why, Mr. Obama, did you spend millions of dollars in courts all over this country to defend against having to present a birth certificate. It's one thing to say, 'I've -- you've seen it. Goodbye.' But why go to court and send lawyers to defend against having to show it? Don't you think we deserve to know more about this man?"
Huckabee should have replied, "I've seen paranoia. Goodbye." Instead, he said:
"I would love to know more. What I know is troubling enough. And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya . . ."
Huckabee thereupon careened off into the (he thinks) related subject of Obama's having sent back to the British Embassy in Washington a bust of Winston Churchill that Obama's predecessor had displayed in the Oval Office: ". . . a great insult to the British. But then, if you think about it, his perspective as growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau revolution in Kenya is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists."
The architects and administrators of the British Empire were imperialists? Perish the thought. A contemporary of William Jennings Bryan once said of the three-time Democratic presidential nominee, "One could drive a prairie schooner through any part of his argument and never scrape against a fact." But an absence of facts means there is no argument.
A spokesman for Huckabee dutifully lied, saying his employer "simply misspoke": "The governor meant to say the president grew up in Indonesia." Obama didn't really grow up there -- he spent just five of his first 18 years there and the other 13 years in Hawaii -- but obviously Huckabee, with his dilation on the Mau Maus, was deliberately referring to Kenya. Unless Huckabee thinks the Mau Maus were Indonesians, which he might count as another "one thing that I do know."
Republicans should understand that when self-described conservatives like Malzberg voice question-rants like the one above and Republicans don't recoil from them, the conservative party is indirectly injured -- as it is directly when Newt Gingrich, who seems to be theatrically tiptoeing toward a presidential candidacy, speculates about Obama's having a "Kenyan, anti-colonial" mentality.
An article containing what Gingrich calls a "stunning insight" is "the most profound insight I have read in the last six years about Barack Obama." Gingrich begins with a faux question: "What if he is so outside our comprehension" that he can be understood "only if you understand Kenyan, anti-colonial, behavior?" Then Gingrich says this isn't just a question; it's "the most accurate, predictive model for his behavior."
To the notion that Obama has a "Kenyan, anti-colonial," worldview, the sensible response is: If only. Obama's natural habitat is as American as the nearest faculty club; he is a distillation of America's academic mentality; he is as American as the other professor-president, Woodrow Wilson. A question for former history professor Gingrich: Why implicate Kenya?
Let us not mince words. There are at most five plausible Republican presidents on the horizon -- Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, former Utah Gov. and departing ambassador to China Jon Huntsman, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.
So the GOP winnowing process is far advanced. But the nominee may emerge much diminished by involvement in a process cluttered with careless, delusional, egomaniacal, spotlight-chasing candidates to whom the sensible US majority would never entrust a lemonade stand, much less nuclear weapons.
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Why is Cain looney toons? Cause he actually worked for a living and did not spend his career as a welfare leech and parasite like obama and his fat assed angry lobster cafoning wife?
LOL ;D
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I would vote for him in a heartbeat. Great American - would make the communist traitor obama cry like a bitch.
He sounds pretty good.
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LOL ;D
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LMAO hilarious
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Not more than bama on the golf course today while the world is on fire.
Talk about hilarious and sad.
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lol
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If blacks won't vote for a guy like cain why should the repubs even bother trying to get their vote?
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If blacks won't vote for a guy like cain why should the repubs even bother trying to get their vote?
They shouldn't, since (quite frankly) they don't need it. With that said, if Cain (or any other GOP candidate) wants to chip into the African-American vote, he/she should hit Obama in the eyes with his flaking on DOMA, especially since the legislative Black Caucus in Maryland just helped put down a gay "marriage" bill for that state. The marriage issue helped give Bush a small bump in the black vote, 11% in 2004 vs. 9% in 2000.
One member (Emmett Burns, Jr.) claims he was threatened and called a "n&@^#%" for his efforts (Don't you just love how tolerant gay "marriage" supporters get, when they get their feathers ruffled?).
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Herman Cain: 'Don't Condemn Me Because the First Black One Was Bad'
Fox/NH Union Leader ^ | 3/14/11 | staff
And while he's diametrically opposed to Obama on the big issues, Herman Cain believes the fact that America has already elected its first African-American helps him.
"Now people are over this first black President thing," he said. "But there are some people who will say, 'I'm not going to vote for another black guy because this one didn't work out.'
"And my response is, 'Well, what about those 43 white guys you put in there? How did they work out?'
"Don't condemn me because the first black one was bad," Cain said with a smile.
(Excerpt) Read more at nation.foxnews.com ...
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Herman Cain OWNING Clinton. Ha ha ha ha ha- Clinton wanted to cry by the end of this.
FUCKING OWNED!
BUMP for TA
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Sounded like a cookie cut politician stiff during the debates.
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What a tool. the comments he makes are laughable.
Herman Cain, former Chairman and Member of the Board of Directors for the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, flippantly denies the need to Audit the Federal Reserve while hosting the Neil Boortz Radio Show on 12/29/10
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People like this guy. He sounds good to me. I'm glad he's in the race.
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People like this guy. He sounds good to me. I'm glad he's in the race.
Real shocker. As long as he's fullfling the NeoCon agenda you're as happy as a pig in shit. I guess the fact that he backs the Feds retarded policies is an added bonus. Who cares that they contributed to our economic disaster.
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herman cain the repubs token,he has as much of a chance as being the repub nominee as palin has as being a brain surgeon
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He was a succsful CEO you dope. The only token is the messiah.
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He was a succsful CEO you dope. The only token is the messiah.
this has nothing to do with him being a successful ceo ,you dope,it has to do with him being black
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Yeah whatever fool. You leftist communist pukes said the same about clarence thomas, condi, miguel estrada, west, etc.
Same playbook about of the communist manifesto / rules for radicals alinskiyte playbook.
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Yeah whatever fool. You leftist communist pukes said the same about clarence thomas, condi, miguel estrada, west, etc.
Same playbook about of the communist manifesto / rules for radicals alinskiyte playbook.
oh, i must have missed it when they ran for pres. :D
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this has nothing to do with him being a successful ceo ,you dope,it has to do with him being black
I actually agree with this. The repubs have this twisted view that it wins them some type of brownie points with the public, no pun intended. Pretty lame tactic.
333386, how can you defend this guy after all your aggressive anti fed talk?
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I actually agree with this. The repubs have this twisted view that it wins them some type of brownie points with the public, no pun intended. Pretty lame tactic.
333386, how can you defend this guy after all your aggressive anti fed talk?
I will vote for a paper bag over Obama if forced to.
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I will vote for a paper bag over Obama if forced to.
That makes no sense. He's defending the same institution that's fucking over the country, has no problems continuing spending money on militarism around the world that is bankrupting us, he supported the bailouts and this is supposed to have a different result then Obamas policies on an economic level?
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I will vote for a paper bag over Obama if forced to.
Your hatred of Obama blinds you.
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I think he actually sat on the fed board or something. No I don't like his stance on this, but he is better than AMA on enough other things to where if it's him or bam a he has my vote.
Ron Paul is starting to say some whacky shit on immigration that make me wretch, yet I would never think to hold out my vote for him over it.
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herman cain the repubs token,he has as much of a chance as being the repub nominee as palin has as being a brain surgeon
Why are you a racist?
Another leftist showing their true colors here. :-\
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33 is the foremost expert on this jeckyll/hyde shit.
but he's supporting Cain, who is going out of his way to defend this shit.
Of course, 33 voted Romney without researching Romneycare... So I think he's just more about voting AGAINST dems than voting FOR anything he actually believes in.
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I think he actually sat on the fed board or something. No I don't like his stance on this, but he is better than AMA on enough other things to where if it's him or bam a he has my vote.
Ron Paul is starting to say some whacky shit on immigration that make me wretch, yet I would never think to hold out my vote for him over it.
What has RP said about immigration?
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33 is the foremost expert on this jeckyll/hyde shit.
but he's supporting Cain, who is going out of his way to defend this shit.
Of course, 33 voted Romney without researching Romneycare... So I think he's just more about voting AGAINST dems than voting FOR anything he actually believes in.
So, we should all support Obama again because Cain isn't as far to the right as you want? LOL.
Ron Paul comes off as fruity on almost everything but fiscal policy and is going to get annihilated as a racist in the media. He's not going to win independents.
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So, we should all support Obama again because Cain isn't as far to the right as you want? LOL.
Ron Paul comes off as fruity on almost everything but fiscal policy and is going to get annihilated as a racist in the media. He's not going to win independents.
He seemed much more well received at the Fox debate this go around and Hannity wanted himon his show afterwards, instead of being ridiculed and mocked. Sounds like the party is taking his positions much more seriously even though the rest of the turds just parrot some of it.
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So, we should all support Obama again because Cain isn't as far to the right as you want? LOL.
where did i say that?
rather, let's hope we can find a GOP offerring that won't continue to mortgage our future.
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where did i say that?
rather, let's hope we can find a GOP offerring that won't continue to mortgage our future.
You've done nothing but suck Obama's dick for the last 2.5 years while he has spent this country into oblivion. Why do you care about fiscal policy now? Is it because the hammer is coming down on you leftist benefit leeches?
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You've done nothing but suck Obama's dick for the last 2.5 years while he has spent this country into oblivion. Why do you care about fiscal policy now? Is it because the hammer is coming down on you leftist benefit leeches?
i'd love to see RP win and will support him 100%.
At this point, you're shitting on the messenger and not the message. You agree with what i'm saying, but just want to shit on me?
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i'd love to see RP win and will support him 100%.
At this point, you're shitting on the messenger and not the message. You agree with what i'm saying, but just want to shit on me?
Because you're a troll, a liar and one of the biggest worshipers of Obama on this site.
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Real shocker. As long as he's fullfling the NeoCon agenda you're as happy as a pig in shit. I guess the fact that he backs the Feds retarded policies is an added bonus. Who cares that they contributed to our economic disaster.
Nah. The fact he doesn't support an audit of the federal reserve does not bother me. Someone from outside the beltway who has been a successful businessman is good for politics. He's a good addition to the race. He's not going to win, but it's good to have someone like him in the field.
Now watch him get more votes than Ron Paul. :)
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Herman Cain OWNING Clinton. Ha ha ha ha ha- Clinton wanted to cry by the end of this.
FUCKING OWNED!
and thats why we had President Cain........oh, my mistake.....ooops.
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Ha ha ha ha
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I love that fact that he's on record saying this. I wonder when the NeoCons will start labeling him a cook or will they now see him as the second coming of Christ?
Herman Cain announced his support of the gold standard on a radio program in late 2010:
"Yes I believe in the gold standard. We should have never gotten off the gold standard because when we got off the gold standard, that then allowed Congress to inflate our currency whenever they overspent. Now look at the mess that we have."
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Herman Cain Catapults into Serious Contention
Undercovered Politics ^ | 5-11-11 | Darcy G. Richardson
Following a solid performance in last Thursday’s nationally-televised Republican presidential primary debate sponsored by FOX News, radio talk show host and self-described “political outsider” Herman Cain suddenly finds himself among the top choices to head his party’s ticket in the 2012 presidential election.
In an on online survey conducted by IBOPE Zogby, the previously little-known Cain is the first choice of 14% of likely Republican primary voters. The ex-chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City and former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza trails only New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie in a match-up of thirteen possible candidates for the Republican presidential nomination. Christie, who continues to insist that he won’t be a candidate, received 17 percent in the interactive poll, which was conducted May 6-9, only a few days after last week’s South Carolina Republican presidential debate.
Mitt Romney, who didn’t participate in last week’s debate, polled 9 percent in the poll while former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, whose debate performance failed to excite the party‘s conservative base, garnered only four percent of those surveyed.
A Romney spokesman downplayed the results, saying that it was too early to gauge support in the race, especially since several potential candidates, including the former Massachusetts governor, haven’t declared their intentions yet.
In the meantime, the 65-year-old Cain — a favorite of the Tea Party crowd — said that he plans to hold a rally on May 21 to announce his decision on running for president.
The IBOPE Zogby Poll of 1,377 likely Republican primary voters also found that half of those surveyed indicated that they could never support Donald Trump as the party’s nominee while 36 percent said that they couldn’t vote for former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, who plans to make his candidacy official later today.
Nearly a third of those polled said that they couldn’t possibly vote for Ron Paul, the cranky Texas congressman and outspoken critic of the Federal Reserve who’s mounting a third long-shot quest for the presidency. Paul’s candidacy was favored by ten percent of those surveyed.
The poll, released yesterday, had a margin of error of 2.7 percent.
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Dream 2012 ticket - Herman Cain/ Lt. Col. Alan West
He is right . Obama is just plain stupid.
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Herman Cain Makes Campaign Announcement: "We're Going To Take Our Country Back" (VIDEO)
RealClearPolitics ^ | May 21, 2011 | RealClearPolitics
Posted on May 21, 2011 2:14:06 PM EDT by i88schwartz
"I'm not running for second," Herman Cain (R) said his presidential campaign announcement in Atlanta, GA on Saturday afternoon. Cain said he estimated the crowd to be at least 15,000 large.
Cain gave a wide ranging campaign speech on the economy, entitlements, energy and immigration.
"We have a nation of crisis," Mr. Cain said. Cain said we have a moral, economic and entitlement crisis.
"Look at the facts, don't look at the rhetoric," he said. "The stuff is not working, it's not working."
"Hope and change is not a new job or a new business or a new vision," Cain said at his rally.
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He can definitely beat Obama.
The guy speaks in plain English and doesn't mince words - something the liberal left despises as it's going to leave them nothing to go on.
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he is a likeable guy. very smart. good personality.
I realllllllllllly hope FOX doesn't crush this guy cause he's not Mitt or TPaw.
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he is a likeable guy. very smart. good personality.
I realllllllllllly hope FOX doesn't crush this guy cause he's not Mitt or TPaw.
How long until you start attacking him, douche bag? ???
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Lmfao!
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How long until you start attacking him, douche bag? ???
???
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;D
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Awesome ad. This is exactly what will send the obamamarxists crying and running for their binkys.
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How was your pretend trip to California via FakeWest Airlines, PEA BRAIN? ::) We're waiting or a single cell phone pic, you glorified public defendant.
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Herman Cain blasts Obama: He's not a strong 'Black Man.'
TheBlaze ^ | 06/30/2011 | Billy Hallowell
Posted on June 30, 2011 5:11:08 PM EDT by izzatzo
When GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain sat down with The New York Times, he made his opinions about President Barack Obama known (and painfully so). The interview, published earlier today, tackled Cain’s partisan allegiances, the Tea Party, his reasons for becoming a Republican, and his opinions surrounding the president’s background, among others issues.
(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...
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he doesn't like to read.
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He is on Hannity radio - man he sounds really good.
He is way better than perry or romney.
he might move up to No. 2 in my book right now.
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He is on Hannity radio - man he sounds really good.
He is way better than perry or romney.
he might move up to No. 2 in my book right now.
He's not moving anywhere. He won't win the GOP nomination and Allen West is lucky he wasn't dismissed from the military for the shit he pulled.
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I like cain a ton. He has a great temperment and presentation.
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I like cain a ton. He has a great temperment and presentation.
and can really sing those negro spirituals; great voice!
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He is moving up in my book. He has the right message, right tone, attacks obama, and has a dignified presence about him.
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Imagine Cain / West ?
That would probably result in a 45 state landslide against obama.
more fantasy/lunacy on your part
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And, these would be the same people who had a heart attack about "Barack the Magic Negro".
I guess you didn't have your cell-tech again today
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Haha mountain of evidence. More like selective evidence. You have zero balance and really are woefully uniformed. It's hilarious to come on here and try to see you justify your generalized nonsense with the help of 333's ignorance. Thanks for the laughs! It's like you think all armies were somehow good at this time. "good" must be taken in context, something you seem to know little about.
you should know by now those two fools work hand-in-hand together
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"After completing his master's degree, Cain left the Navy department and began working for Coca-Cola as a business analyst. In 1977, he joined Pillsbury where he rose to the position of vice president by the early 1980s.
He left his executive post to work for Burger King, a Pillsbury subsidiary, managing 400 stores in the Philadelphia area. Under Cain's leadership, his region went from the least profitable for Burger King to the most profitable in three years.
This prompted Pillsbury to appoint him as president and CEO of Godfather's Pizza, another subsidiary. Within 14 months, Cain had returned Godfather's to profitability.
In 1988, Cain and a group of investors bought Godfather's from Pillsbury. Cain continued as CEO until 1996, when he resigned to become CEO of the National Restaurant Association where he had previously been chairman concurrently with his role at Godfather's."
http://www.think-it-inc.com/HermanCain.htm
impressive
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Cain schooled that dope Clinton and will do the same to Obama.
And he is the perfect person to do it.
He speaks clearly, from a knowledge base, from experience and education, and age.
I wish you did as well :o
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BUMP for Raising Cain, moved to No. 2 for me as of today.
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Herman Cain OWNING Clinton. Ha ha ha ha ha- Clinton wanted to cry by the end of this.
FUCKING OWNED!
BBBOOOMMMM.
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from a 'chicken in every pot' to ' a free pizza for every American'
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He came from my Alma Mater. So I want him to do well. But as far as policy, and message I have to still vote Ron Paul. Even though GOP treats him like the crazy uncle, he will bring some stability back during his FIRST term.
Cain... I just dont see it. I tried..but i cant get into him. Buddy Roemer and Ron Paul are my choices. But not the choice of big business or marginal voters.. so they have no chance.
33333 What about Cain makes him better than Ron Paul?
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He came from my Alma Mater. So I want him to do well. But as far as policy, and message I have to still vote Ron Paul. Even though GOP treats him like the crazy uncle, he will bring some stability back during his FIRST term.
Cain... I just dont see it. I tried..but i cant get into him. Buddy Roemer and Ron Paul are my choices. But not the choice of big business or marginal voters.. so they have no chance.
33333 What about Cain makes him better than Ron Paul?
I like both TBH, but I like Cain's Private Sector success and focus on realistic things and solutions, not theory.
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I like both TBH, but I like Cain's Private Sector success and focus on realistic things and solutions, not theory.
I knew that was coming... and its valid.. But Pauls "Theory" is only that because we throw out his ideas and say "oh thats just crazy uncle ronny going off again"
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I knew that was coming... and its valid.. But Pauls "Theory" is only that because we throw out his ideas and say "oh thats just crazy uncle ronny going off again"
Did you get my PM?
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Did you get my PM?
ill check.. i never really check that
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Cain moving a lot higher on my list. No 2 for me right now, close to no. 1.
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2012. Cain v UnAble.
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2012. Cain v UnAble.
you are getting more and more nuts. Repubs will never let a black man represent them in the presidential race..it would be a smart thing to do but it won't happen yet
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;D
Bump.
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Bump.
bump back
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you are getting more and more nuts. Repubs will never let a black man represent them in the presidential race..it would be a smart thing to do but it won't happen yet
Would you vote for him?
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Would you vote for him?
Since all you do is post on here all day, I think it would be good if you had to go work on a farm in the sun instead.
What are you doing for your country other than hating the president? That's treason in a time of war.
Also, why do you hate the troops so much?
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Since all you do is post on here all day, I think it would be good if you had to go work on a farm in the sun instead.
What are you doing for your country other than hating the president? That's treason in a time of war.
Also, why do you hate the troops so much?
He doesn't hate the troops. He just thinks that you chasing around new recruits wearing a cod piece with an aluminum foil dildo sticking out is offensive and counterproductive to our military capabilities.
I realize that such opinions are offensive to your civil rights and personal tastes, but sacrifices have to be made in a democracy for the good of all non queers that want to serve our country with honor.
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Affirmative action is negative step (Herman Cain Archive)
The Augusta Chronicle ^ | 2004 | Herman Cain
Posted on September 25, 2011 3:00:35 AM EDT by mnehring
Some of my opponents in the race for the U.S. Senate seem to like to ask me if I am in favor of affirmative action. I'm sick and tired of people trying to divide us on race. So let me make my answer as plain as day, so that even a congressman can understand it. If by affirmative action you mean quotas - then no. But if you mean, do I favor giving all people equal opportunity? You bet. I don't understand how my opponents could not agree with the idea of removing all barriers for people to have equal opportunity.
When my father left a dirt farm at age 18 to pursue his American dream, he knew it would not be easy. He worked three jobs as a barber, chauffeur and janitor. My father struggled but never wavered in his three basic beliefs: his belief in God, his belief in himself and his belief that if he wanted to achieve something in this country, he could. He taught me that you get what you earn. I took that lesson to heart. After 20 years of hard work, I became a vice-president of the same company where dad worked as a janitor.
We were all taught, as my father taught me, that you can achieve anything in this country if you will put forth the effort. What we need to work on is removing the obstacles that get in the way of each individual's American dream. Fundamentally, I believe government needs to be smaller and get their hand out of everything.
Recent news reports indicate that the University of Georgia is considering adding race as one of the factors in their admission criteria. Last year, the U.S. Supreme Court made a ruling on the constitutionality of using race in college admission. The convoluted ruling found the University of Michigan's admissions practices - which gave bonus points to minorities simply because they are minorities - to be unconstitutional. And I agree with that ruling. Racial quotas should never be used as an admission policy.
But the court gave the go-ahead to the University of Michigan law school to consider race on a case-by-case basis. This is very tricky. If it means that economically impoverished kids who happen to be minorities should get consideration for assistance, that's great. If that means that minorities get slots in place of white kids with better academic credentials, then that is not fair.
College acceptance should be based on how well a student has performed and excelled in school. Like everything else in life, people need to earn what they get, and earn it by working hard. Quotas are not the answer and they never will be.
The reality today is that more black kids are attending college than ever before. And they are getting to college the old-fashioned way, by earning it. There are more minority doctors, lawyers and other professionals than ever before. We need to continue this trend, by not focusing on race but focusing on encouraging our kids to work harder to succeed.
There are many ways to help educate all of our children and help everyone achieve their American dream, but they do not include quotas, government handouts or special government preferences. No matter who you are, in the United States you can be anything you want to be, you can dream whatever you want to dream. There is no quota on success in this country if you are willing to work hard enough and long enough. I, and millions of other people, am proof of that fact.
(Editor's note; The writer, a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate, is a former chairman and CEO of Godfathers Pizza and head of the National Restaurant Association.)
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Would you vote for him?
I have to admit its a possibility...gotta hear more of his views
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Since all you do is post on here all day, I think it would be good if you had to go work on a farm in the sun instead.
What are you doing for your country other than hating the president? That's treason in a time of war.
Also, why do you hate the troops so much?
believe me I have told him this over and over...he doesn't get it
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believe me I have told him this over and over...he doesn't get it
aNDRE - DO YOU HAVE YOUR SLIPPERS OFF AND MARCHING SHOES ON?
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Affirmative action is negative step (Herman Cain Archive)
The Augusta Chronicle ^ | 2004 | Herman Cain
Posted on September 25, 2011 3:00:35 AM EDT by mnehring
Some of my opponents in the race for the U.S. Senate seem to like to ask me if I am in favor of affirmative action. I'm sick and tired of people trying to divide us on race. So let me make my answer as plain as day, so that even a congressman can understand it. If by affirmative action you mean quotas - then no. But if you mean, do I favor giving all people equal opportunity? You bet. I don't understand how my opponents could not agree with the idea of removing all barriers for people to have equal opportunity.
When my father left a dirt farm at age 18 to pursue his American dream, he knew it would not be easy. He worked three jobs as a barber, chauffeur and janitor. My father struggled but never wavered in his three basic beliefs: his belief in God, his belief in himself and his belief that if he wanted to achieve something in this country, he could. He taught me that you get what you earn. I took that lesson to heart. After 20 years of hard work, I became a vice-president of the same company where dad worked as a janitor.
We were all taught, as my father taught me, that you can achieve anything in this country if you will put forth the effort. What we need to work on is removing the obstacles that get in the way of each individual's American dream. Fundamentally, I believe government needs to be smaller and get their hand out of everything.
Recent news reports indicate that the University of Georgia is considering adding race as one of the factors in their admission criteria. Last year, the U.S. Supreme Court made a ruling on the constitutionality of using race in college admission. The convoluted ruling found the University of Michigan's admissions practices - which gave bonus points to minorities simply because they are minorities - to be unconstitutional. And I agree with that ruling. Racial quotas should never be used as an admission policy.
But the court gave the go-ahead to the University of Michigan law school to consider race on a case-by-case basis. This is very tricky. If it means that economically impoverished kids who happen to be minorities should get consideration for assistance, that's great. If that means that minorities get slots in place of white kids with better academic credentials, then that is not fair.
College acceptance should be based on how well a student has performed and excelled in school. Like everything else in life, people need to earn what they get, and earn it by working hard. Quotas are not the answer and they never will be.
The reality today is that more black kids are attending college than ever before. And they are getting to college the old-fashioned way, by earning it. There are more minority doctors, lawyers and other professionals than ever before. We need to continue this trend, by not focusing on race but focusing on encouraging our kids to work harder to succeed.
There are many ways to help educate all of our children and help everyone achieve their American dream, but they do not include quotas, government handouts or special government preferences. No matter who you are, in the United States you can be anything you want to be, you can dream whatever you want to dream. There is no quota on success in this country if you are willing to work hard enough and long enough. I, and millions of other people, am proof of that fact.
(Editor's note; The writer, a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate, is a former chairman and CEO of Godfathers Pizza and head of the National Restaurant Association.)
wow..you finally posted an article that's relevant and truthful and that I learned something from
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I like Cain a lot.
I just don't know if he is electable.
I feel like our black guy versus Obama= our black guy gets crucified by the media, Obama riles up the black base to demonize him as a sell out/ Uncle Tom-- so will the black caucus etc. Then, left leaning voters will go with the black socialist they know out of guilt ( "See how much the GOP hates Obama? They even sent a black candidate to do their dirty work!") ETC.
I would 100 % vote for him. I'm just not sure if having him be the candidate is an asset or hindrance to defeating Osama at this point.
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Citizen Cain to President Cain No Longer a Reach
Townhall.com ^ | September 19, 2011 | Mark Baisley
Posted on September 25, 2011 10:40:25 AM EDT by Kaslin
Chris Christie just got a new reason to sit this one out: Herman Cain.
The New York Post is reporting that influential Republicans have convinced the New Jersey Governor to give renewed consideration to running for the White House. As of Saturday, however, the nominating process is no longer predictably insipid.
It is common practice for party patrons to attempt to engineer victory by convincing a marquis name to run for office when they perceive a weak field. And once the pace has been established in the big races, candidates who believe they can run even faster frequently accept the encouragement to jump in mid-course. But the 2012 election does not seem to be following the usual route.
While Rick Perry and Mitt Romney were busy engaging each other in a falling eaglet flight fight, Herman Cain won the Florida straw poll. He won big -- really big. Cain’s 37% of the vote nearly equalled the next three candidate totals combined. Perry took a distant second place with 15% and Romney is third with 14%.
Citing thirty-two years of history, Florida Governor Rick Scott predicted, “I believe whoever wins this straw poll on Saturday will be the Republican nominee and I believe the Republican nominee will be the next President.”
Is there any credibility in the candidacy of the former Godfather Pizza CEO? He has no election experience and the words “Washington” and “Governor” do not appear on his resume. GOP nominee Herman Cain may be a credible notion if we consider not only the competition, but the national mood.
The prevailing view among conservatives is that Jimmy Carter not only conducted the worst presidency since Woodrow Wilson, but he also got the nation good and ready to embrace the inspirational wisdom of Ronald Reagan. Based on that reaction, Barack Obama is winding up our springs for a catapult to the right, beyond any safe and traditional talk from so called “first tier” candidates. Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 plan may have just the right amount of revolutionary flavor to match American’s urgency for tax reform.
I only began to give Mr. Cain due consideration after seeing his very effective performance in the most recent debate. Wondering whether he has mettle beyond that of a successful businessman, I researched Cain’s resume. The guy is no lightweight, folks; Bachelors in mathematics, Masters in Computer Science from Purdue, ballistics specialist for the United States Navy, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, and author of four books on leadership. He also contributes his talents at his church near Atlanta.
I appreciated Mitt Romney’s humble statement near the end of Thursday’s debate, “There’s a lot of reasons not to elect me.” That certainly seems to apply to most candidates (with the longest list of reasons racked up by President Obama himself). But I am no longer dismissive of the idea of President Cain. Much the contrary. The Florida straw poll was validating.
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I like Cain a lot.
I just don't know if he is electable.
I feel like our black guy versus Obama= our black guy gets crucified by the media, Obama riles up the black base to demonize him as a sell out/ Uncle Tom-- so will the black caucus etc. Then, left leaning voters will go with the black socialist they know out of guilt ( "See how much the GOP hates Obama? They even sent a black candidate to do their dirty work!") ETC.
I would 100 % vote for him. I'm just not sure if having him be the candidate is an asset or hindrance to defeating Osama at this point.
Can we please finally have a post from you that doesn't mention race????..you are really obsessed with it
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Can we please finally have a post from you that doesn't mention race????..you are really obsessed with it
Andre - I can't post it now - but look at a letter cain wrote on illegal immigeation in 2006.
Cain is drastically better than obama on all fronts.
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Andre - I can't post it now - but look at a letter cain wrote on illegal immigeation in 2006.
Cain is drastically better than obama on all fronts.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2783552/posts
Andre - check that out.
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Can we please finally have a post from you that doesn't mention race????..you are really obsessed with it
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You don't think that a Presidential election between Herman Cain and Barak Osama would involve race at all?
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you are getting more and more nuts. Repubs will never let a black man represent them in the presidential race..it would be a smart thing to do but it won't happen yet
I dunno... Michael steele was a braindead moron. His hiring was a response to obama being electedred.
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I dunno... Michael steele was a braindead moron. His hiring was a response to obama being electedred.
I do agree with this....all of a sudden when we have a black president, the Republicans elect a black head of the GOP...really cynical..but it shows how they think and operate
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You don't think that a Presidential election between Herman Cain and Barak Osama would involve race at all?
maybe....especially for the skinheads...they would all probably commit suicide en mass... ;)
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Herman Cain rips CAIR, ISNA, and the Muslim Brotherhood — and he will prosecute
The United West ^ | 9/24/11 | Youtube
Orlando, FL 23 Sep 2011: Herman Cain at Republican debate pledges to aggressively prosecute CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations), ISNA (Islamic Society of North America), and NAIT (North American Islamic Trust) along with pledging to list the Muslim Brotherhood as a Designated Terrorist Organization.
Hopefully he includes MaoBama.
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A Letter from a Slave to an Illegal Alien (By Herman Cain)
Human Events ^ | May 15, 2006 | Herman Cain
Posted on September 25, 2011 3:33:19 PM EDT by buccaneer81
Dear Illegal Alien,
My ancestors were brought to this country in chains against their will, and sold and forced to work like common farm animals. They had to abide by the laws to stay alive.
My ancestors endured abuse and unlawful deaths for 250 years before the civilized hearts of this nation recognized that "all men are created equal," regardless of race or color. We went from slaves to free men and women, but without the freedom of equal rights, equal access to opportunity and equal protection under our nation's laws. That struggle took another 100 years, culminating with the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Throughout my ancestors' 350-year struggle the objective was always "one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all." When that liberty and justice finally became legally recognized as our civil rights, some of us ran through the doors of opportunity, some walked, and some chose to stay on the outside to criticize and complain. Still, our nation's history has always been defined by one set of laws, one language and one flag of unity. This is what defines the United States of America!
Therein lies your biggest problem. The public perception is that you want a different set of laws, and you want to ignore current laws. You even want an accommodation of your language in our national anthem, and some of your people are flaunting flags other than the flag of the USA.
As a reminder, USA stands for United States of America. It does not stand for "Under Special Assumptions."
There is no doubt that the USA is a nation of immigrants -- legal immigrants. No one faults you for desiring the opportunity for a better life in the greatest country in the world. Although we do not consider your demonstrations a civil rights movement, there are some lessons you could learn from our 350-year struggle that may help you in your quest to come out of our nation's shadows.
First, your illegal status is a non-starter for obtaining rights, benefits or a short cut to citizenship. It is creating massive public resentment and alienating those with compassionate hearts who might want to support a reasonable and fair road to your citizenship. You will not earn U.S. citizenship as long as you choose to ignore our laws, simply because you have been able to survive here illegally for a number of years.
Granted, our immigration system is cumbersome, inefficient and needs major overhaul, but it is a part of our system of laws. Maybe one of your objectives should be to encourage Congress to overhaul the system, making the process more efficient for every immigrant, which would make it easier and more efficient for you.
Second, your objectives are unclear, and your leadership uncertain. My ancestors' objectives have always been crystal clear, even when our leadership had been questionable, as it is today. Not every so-called "leader" capable of attracting media attention represents African-Americans' best interests. One of our greatest leaders was, obviously, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. during the Civil Rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s. Today, unfortunately, African-Americans are leadership-challenged, despite the great progress we have made. Beware of your leaders and those that would mislead you.
Third, get with the program on our use of the English language and respect and allegiance for our one flag. Second languages exist and are respected in many ethnic communities, but they learn the Star Spangled Banner in English. Our soldiers fight and die for one flag. Patriotism is alive and well in this country, just as it was when this nation was founded, and it will stay that way.
Your journey toward the full rights of U.S. citizenship may not take 350 years, but it will take clarity of purpose, certainty of leadership and a lawful, patriotic approach toward attaining the best that this nation has to offer. In this spirit of coming to our great country, you will eventually hear 300 million legal citizens say, "Welcome to America."
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Cain: Morgan Freeman’s sad ignorance doesn’t offend me
Hot Air ^ | 25 Sep 2011 | Ed Morrissey
Posted on September 25, 2011 8:52:11 PM EDT by mandaladon
In the aftermath of his big Florida straw poll victory, Herman Cain appeared on Fox with Neil Cavuto, who asked Cain to respond to actor Morgan Freeman’s contention that the Tea Party was based on racism. Cain, who is a favorite at Tea Party events and who owed his remarkable victory yesterday to Tea Party activism, told Cavuto that being a great actor doesn’t always equate to having a grasp on reality. Cain declined to take offense, as Newsbusters reports, and instead focused on the desperation from the old-guard hard Left who just assumed that the race card was a winning trump that was exclusively theirs:
NEIL CAVUTO: Morgan Freeman, the actor, has been very critical of Tea Parties, and said that what they’re doing is racist based, and going after and unseating Obama has at its underpinnings racism. I’m paraphrasing here, but what do you make of that argument?
HERMAN CAIN: Well, first of all, I doubt if Morgan Freeman, with all due respect, who is a great actor, has he ever been to a Tea Party? Most of the people that are criticizing the Tea Parties, Neil, about having a racist element, they have never been to a Tea Party.
CAVUTO: But wait a minute, wait a minute. He has played, wait, wait, wait. He has played a President of the United States.
CAIN: Oh. Great, yeah, in a movie. This is real life out here on the campaign trail, man. This is not a movie.
CAVUTO: So, are you offended by that?
CAIN: No, I’m not offended by it. I just, I just think that it is sad that they’re so short-sighted in really understanding what the whole Tea Party citizen movement is all about.
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
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Cain nearly quit campaign before Florida straw poll, calls Obama a ‘liar’
By Chris Moody
Political Reporter
Cain (Joe Burbank/AP)
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Not everyone needs to go to Disney World to have fun in central Florida.
After one of Herman Cain's strongest showings yet at a Republican presidential debate Thursday, and two days with conservative activists in the state, he won the "Presidency 5" straw poll in Orlando over the weekend, beating Texas Gov. Rick Perry, the front-runner in the primary race, by more than 20 points.
While straw polls are not scientific and their results can be poor indicators of whether a candidate will win a party's nomination--the latest actual Florida poll put Cain near the bottom--they can help spark some momentum, especially for lower-tier candidates. For Cain, a 65-year-old businessman, mathematician, author and radio host from Atlanta, Georgia, his straw poll win could well be the high-water mark of his campaign. And by his own admission, the path that brought him this far wasn't an easy one. The morning before the straw poll, I met Cain for coffee in a hotel near the convention center that hosted the debate and straw poll. As we discussed the early phase of the Republican primaries, he told me that before coming to Florida, he had nearly called it quits on two occasions.
"The thing that I've learned about myself in this campaign--because I've never had this happen to me before on a single challenge--is that I've gone to the brink, ready to pull the plug, but came back, twice," Cain said. "I've only had two days where I personally felt, should I pull the plug? For different reasons. That's how frustrating a campaign can be."
When I pressed for details, he said he'd prefer to keep them to himself.
"I can't tell you what those two days are," he said. "But think about the number of days we've been on this campaign. Two ain't that bad."
Cain is certainly no stranger to adversity, having recently overcome Stage IV colon and liver cancer.
Even though he's known as the "pizza" candidate for his years as head of Godfather's Pizza, his background is much broader than that. After he graduated from Morehouse College with a degree in mathematics and a minor in chemistry in 1968, Cain landed a job as a ballistics analyst for the Department of the Navy, where he was responsible for the calculations that ensured battleship rockets hit their targets.
"It's not an easy thing to do," he said.
Cain later completed a master's degree in computer science and entered the business world where he led several companies--most recently Godfather's--and chaired the National Restaurant Association and the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. His résumé--from mathematician and rocket scientist to restaurateur and now politician--isn't exactly a typical one for a presidential candidate. But Cain said that while his presidential run may look unlikely from the outside, it's actually part of his larger career trajectory of seeking out new ways to test himself.
"I'm bored if I don't have a challenge," he said.
Cain said the run for the White House is his toughest challenge yet--and it's been anything but boring. Despite the frustrations of running a national campaign, you can tell he's enjoying it. But it doesn't take much to get him riled up.
After a few caffeine-heavy refills at our corner table, I asked him about President Obama's new effort to raise taxes on the wealthy, and Cain just about blew a blood vessel--especially when I mentioned the part where Obama says it's about "math" not "class warfare."
"Can I be blunt? That's a lie," Cain said, before the sound of his voice began to rise noticeably higher. "You're not supposed to call the president a liar. Well if you're not supposed to call the president a liar, he shouldn't tell a lie. If it's not class warfare, it's highway robbery. He wants us to believe it's not class warfare, oh okay, it's not class warfare. Pick my pockets, because that's what he's doing!"
Cain paused, took a breath and looked at me.
"I'm not mad at you, I just get passionate about this stuff," he said. "I have to tell people because I get so worked up . . . . I'm listening to all this bullshit that he's talking about, 'fairness' and 'balanced approach' to get this economy going."
As anyone who watched the past couple of debates knows by now, Cain has his own plan that he says would steer the country out of its economic downturn. He calls it the "9-9-9 Plan," and it would replace the current tax code with three flat, nine-percent federal taxes on income, consumption and business.
"With 9-9-9 guess what? How many loopholes?" he said, tapping his fingers on the table like a drumroll. "None. Everybody gets treated the same. What a novel idea."
As the straw poll and his recent fundraising numbers suggest, Cain's message is resonating with the conservative movement's influential base of tea-party activists; for these supporters his status as a non-career politician with an extensive background in the private sector is nearly as strong a draw as his ideas and policy proposals. But despite his recent surge in support, few expect Cain's momentum to carry him on to victory at the Republican National Convention in 2012.
Cain insisted that the prognostications of a few pundits won't stop him from pressing on as far as his donors will carry him. At the same time, though, he said that this campaign will be his last foray into politics.
"I'm not planning to run for another public office," he said. But regardless, it's been "a hell of a challenge."
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2012 - Cain vs UnAble
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http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-herman-cain-facts-2012-republican-wild-card-pizza-federal-reserve-2011-9#cain-is-a-totally-self-made-man-1
AMAZING ARTICLE!
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He was literally a rocket scientist.
When Cain told Sean Hannity that solving America's problems is "not rocket science," few noted that Cain is actually one of few people qualified to make that remark.
After earning his degree from Morehouse, Cain worked full-time as a mathematician in ballistics for the U.S. Navy, developing fire control systems for ships and fighter planes.
At the same time, Cain was also working toward a master's degree in computer science at Purdue University.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-herman-cain-facts-2012-republican-wild-card-pizza-federal-reserve-2011-9#he-was-literally-a-rocket-scientist-2#ixzz1Z62UoipT
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Who IS Herman Cain? 11 Things You Never Knew About The 2012 Republican Wild Card
3/12
Cain's business career took off when he became Burger King's turnaround man.
After moving to the private sector as a computer analyst for Coca-Cola, Cain was hired by the Pillsbury Company, where he quickly became a vice president.
In the early 1980s, Cain left his position at Pillsbury headquarters to work for the company's Burger King subsidiary in Philadelphia. According to his bio, he learned the business by "starting from the ground up, dodging grease fires and broiling hamburgers."
Within three years, he turned the region's 450 BK restaurants from the least profitable to the most profitable.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-herman-cain-facts-2012-republican-wild-card-pizza-federal-reserve-2011-9#cains-business-career-took-off-when-he-became-burger-kings-turnaround-man-3#ixzz1Z644tb00
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Did Herman Cain turn around Godfather's Pizza?
By Angie Drobnic Holan
Published on Friday, June 10th, 2011 at 10:59 a.m.
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"When I became president and CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, it was supposed to go bankrupt . . . We turned it around with common-sense business principles."
Herman Cain, Thursday, May 26th, 2011.
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Herman Cain discusses his candidacy for president on Fox News.
The Republican field for president includes the usual mix, professional politicians who have been governors, senator, or speaker of the House. Herman Cain stands out not only because he hasn’t held elective office, but because he used to sell pizza.
His experience in business has attracted early interest from Republican voters, especially the tea party movement. Last month, a Fox News focus group said overwhelmingly that Cain won the first GOP debate.
Pizza is Cain's biggest selling point. He says his track record running Godfather’s Pizza, a chain that once billed itself as "the cure for the pizza emergency," shows he has the ability to run the country. The 620-store chain was on the brink of bankruptcy when he arrived in 1986, he says, and he "turned it around with common-sense business principles."
A PolitiFact examination of Godfather’s, based on interviews with industry analysts and company officials, shows Cain is largely correct. The chain wasn’t literally preparing paperwork for bankruptcy, but it was widely considered troubled. Cain changed that by uniting the franchisees, overhauling the chain's advertising, and getting his team focused on its core mission: pizza.
Burgers before pizza
Cain grew up in Atlanta, the son of a chauffeur to a Coca-Cola executive. He majored in math at Morehouse College and got a master’s degree in computer science from Purdue University. He started his early career as a technology manager before eventually joining Pillsbury and entering a fast-track program for young executives.
His first big challenge in the restaurant business was turning around the Burger King stores in Philadelphia, which at the time were low performers. Cain went through "burger boot camp," putting burgers on the broiler himself and learning the restaurants' operations from the ground up. He went on the road, visiting other franchises in the region and getting other managers to improve operations. Colleagues remember him as a sharp manager and an inspirational leader with a knack for getting people to work together.
Spencer Wiggins was a human resources officer working at Kraft Foods when an executive headhunter recruited him for Cain’s Burger King project. Wiggins said he wasn’t interested in working in restaurants, but the head hunter talked him into meeting Cain.
When Wiggins walked into the room, Cain pulled out a folder, looked him right in the eye, and said, "Spencer Wiggins! My man! I have been waiting for you!"
"It was like he had known me all my life," Wiggins recalled from his home in Nashville. "And the next thing I knew I was working for the Burger King corporation."
In 1986, Pillsbury tapped Cain to rescue Godfather’s, an Omaha-based subsidiary it had just acquired, and the story virtually repeated itself. Cain asked Wiggins to go with him.
"I said ‘Herman. C’mon, man. Omaha, Nebraska?’ I just don’t have it on my map to go to Omaha. Herman said, just come out and look around. And at the end of the day, I ended up moving to Omaha."
The Godfather’s story
Pillsbury bought Godfather’s largely by accident, according to press reports from the time. Godfather’s was part of Diversifoods Inc., a conglomerate that included more than 300 Burger King franchises. Pillsbury wanted the Burger Kings, and the chain of more than 800 Godfather’s pizza restaurants came with it.
"The value of Diversifoods was its ownership of the Burger Kings, and the deal made sense without Godfather's," John McMillin, an industry analyst, told the Chicago Tribune shortly after the deal. "Pillsbury got Godfather's for nothing, and some said they got what they paid for."
The chain’s problems included franchisee lawsuits, an overly long menu, and a dejected workforce. Even its TV ads seemed hapless, showing a car full of executives driving around, unable to find a Godfather's. ("Find one. It's worth it," the ad lamely concluded.) As Cain said later, the chain had "had one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel."
Cain attacked problems on every front. He declared the company’s advertising account up for review, pitting ad agencies against each other in a bidding war. He trimmed the menu and enforced quality standards. He pushed more restaurants to offer delivery, and he closed low-performing franchises.
He emphasized communication, giving speeches at important moments to employees and franchisees. After his first 60 days at Godfather's, he gave a speech he called "get on the wagon," which he now uses in political speeches.
When he was a boy, Cain said, his grandfather, a potato farmer, would hitch up his mules for the weekly trip to town. Any grandchildren who wanted to go could ride along. Cain would finish the story in his grandfather’s thundering voice: "Them that’s going, get on the wagon! Them that ain’t, get out of the way!"
Charles Henderson, who runs coffee kiosks in Pennsylvania, was Cain’s director of marketing back then. He says Cain is "probably the most inspirational person I’ve ever met in my life."
"He can be mesmerizing. He’s very dynamic. I’m not slamming our current president, but Herman Cain will give a 20- or 30-minute speech extemporaneously, and certainly without teleprompters. He is without a doubt the most dynamic speaker I’ve ever heard," Henderson said.
Henderson said Cain succeeded because he immersed himself in all aspects of the business and wasn’t afraid to get his hands into the dough. Cain baked pies on a weekly basis after he arrived in Omaha. "He loved to make pizzas. We had a test store over on Pacific Street, which wasn’t too far from Godfather’s, and once a week, he’d round us all up and we’d go make pizzas," Henderson said.
Cain directed an overhaul of the Godfather's television ads that focused on Godfather's "hot slice," a customized pizza slice aimed for the lunch crowd and intended to compete with Pizza Hut's Personal Pan Pizza. The new ads showed a secretary at a desk about to have a "pizza emergency." Godfather's, of course, was the cure.
Later commercials tended toward attention-getting and even bizarre humor. The "Studney twins" – an old white guy and a young black guy in garish blue and green tuxedos – promoted Godfather's two-for-one specials. Another ad featured attorney-turned-actor Ben Stein of "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" as a burned out hipster needing pizza.
Cain himself even appeared in a series that Advertising Age named one of the best campaigns of 1989. In one ad, Cain told viewers Godfather's has conducted exhaustive research to find out why customers preferred Godfather's pizza. He introduced his director of research, who unveiled the results by unfolding a piece of paper and reading two words: "More topping."
"Enjoy your Godfather's pizza and take life one bite at a time," Cain concluded.
Jeff Campbell is the retired Pillsbury executive who selected Cain to run Godfather’s. Reached by PolitiFact at his home in San Diego, he said there was no doubt in his mind that Cain turned Godfather's around.
"He was the best thing that happened to Godfather’s in a long time," Campbell said.
Cain has said that the chain returned to profitability within 14 months of his arrival. That number wasn’t possible for PolitiFact to independently confirm because the chain did not report its profits as a stand-alone unit, but industry analysts do not dispute that Cain stabilized the company.
Technomic, a research and consulting firm focused on the restaurant industry, has research data on Godfather’s going back to the 1970s. At PolitiFact’s request, vice president Darren Tristano examined the revenues and franchise numbers for Godfather’s during the time Cain headed it from 1986 to 1995.
It's not possible to determine profitability from those numbers, but they do show Godfather's place in the market, particularly in comparison with its competitors.
"It’s really hard from that period to find a strong positive or a strong negative. It’s more like ‘steady the course,’" Tristano said.
Still, "steady the course" isn’t bad for a company that was troubled to start out with and in an industry that’s punishingly competitive, analysts said.
Godfather’s position was particularly perilous. It wasn’t as big as chains like Pizza Hut and Domino’s, and it also had to compete with locally owned mom-and-pops in just about every market.
"They had to be very innovative to compete with the big three and with the little guys. They couldn’t rest on their laurels," said John Correll, a Michigan-based pizza industry consultant. "For a number of years, Herman Cain and his management team were able to pull that off."
Pizza Hut, the industry leader at the time, was a particularly difficult foe. After Godfather's launched its "pizza emergency" campaign in 1986, Pizza Hut matched it with ads imitating the emergency broadcast system. In the event of a real pizza emergency, "you should go directly to Pizza Hut and order their famous pan pizza," the ad said. Pizza Hut executives said the similarity was coincidence.
Cain said the alleged thievery wouldn’t matter in the end, and he wouldn’t pursue legal action. "It's not a big deal to us," Cain told AdWeek, which documented the feud.
Godfather’s never grew fast enough to outpace giants like Pizza Hut and Domino’s, but today it still claims about 620 franchises across the country.
John Chisholm was a Godfather's franchisee who owned 90 restaurants in five states when Cain arrived to run the company.
"His leadership and his ability to deal with people were just outstanding. I have nothing but the highest praise for Herman Cain," Chisholm said.
Cain's primary accomplishment was motivating the people who worked for Godfather's, Chisolm said. The turn-around happened "mostly through motivation and talking to people and getting people to work as a team."
Chisholm recalled Cain's first speech to the entire company as one of the "most charismatic" he ever heard.
Cain included a copy of the speech in his 1999 book, Speak as a Leader.
"Sixty days ago I came to Godfather's with a curiosity about what I would find. I had already accepted my newly bestowed responsibilities even before I stepped foot on Nebraska soil and before I met or knew anyone or anything about Godfather's. … Sixty days ago, I came to Godfather's anxious to tackle a situation considered by some of our external constituencies to be irreversible. I came without a golden parachute because I never entertained the idea that the situation was irreversible. I came committed to prove the skeptics wrong because I have a personal, fundamental belief in the power of human determination. I came to Godfather's believing in you even before I met you. I challenge you to commit and believe in yourself and Godfather's pizza as a system."
Life after pizza
Two years after Cain was named CEO, Pillsbury decided to get out of the pizza business and sell Godfather’s. Cain and his management team decided to buy the chain in a leveraged buyout for an undisclosed sum. He continued as CEO, but his transition away from day-to-day management started around 1994. That was the year Cain went toe-to-toe with Bill Clinton over health care reform.
Cain was part of an audience in Omaha watching a town hall with Clinton, who was promoting his health plan. Cain was selected to ask Clinton a question, and he began by commending Clinton for "making health care a national priority." But then he said he had run the numbers and found that costs for Godfather’s would be so high that he would have to eliminate jobs to pay for health care for the other employees.
"On behalf of all of those business owners that are in a situation similar to mine, my question is quite simply, if I’m forced to do this, what will I tell those people whose jobs I will have to eliminate?"
Cain and Clinton went back and forth on the numbers and details of the policy, before Clinton concluded by telling Cain to send his numbers to the White House.
The high-profile exchange came as Cain was getting more involved in government and politics. He was serving as a board member of the Federal Reserve of Kansas City and was about to begin a year as president of the National Restaurant Association, eventually going to work for the association full-time.
A year after the town hall, Cain appeared with Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich to throw the association’s support behind welfare reform. In 1999, he left his post there to co-chair Republican Steve Forbes’ run for the presidency.
Cain formally ended his management of Godfather’s in 1996, turning over his CEO duties to Ron Gartlan, who remains CEO today. Godfather’s wouldn’t comment on Cain’s time there, but released a statement saying, "Godfather’s Pizza takes no position on political candidates, but we do make great pizza."
Cain moved to Atlanta in 2000 to concentrate on his public speaking career, his books and other business ventures. He eventually sold his stake in Godfather’s. In recent years, he’s worked as a conservative radio talk show host, and in 2004, he ran for a U.S. Senate seat in Georgia. He came in second in the Republican primary, behind the eventual winner Johnny Isakson, but ahead of Mac Collins, a sitting member of Congress.
Cain is still considered, at best, a longshot for winning the presidency. He’s been asked several times why he’s running, since he doesn’t have any experience. Cain has a standard reply that he seems to enjoy delivering.
"Well, all the people in Washington, D.C., they’ve held office before. How’s that working for you?"
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IBOPE Zogby Poll: Perry Plummets to 18%; Trails Cain For Lead Among GOP Primary Voters
IBOPE Zogby ^ | Sep 26, 2011 | Corry Schiermeyer
Posted on September 26, 2011 9:29:14 PM EDT by caper gal 1
UTICA, NY--Rick Perry has tumbled by more than 20 percentage points over the past month among Republican presidential primary voters and is now second to Herman Cain, who leads the field with 28%.
Mitt Romney received little benefit from Perrys fall, garnering 17% of the vote for third place.
As for President Barack Obama, both his job approval (42%) and the percentage who believe he deserves re-election (37%) are little changed from recent polls, but he does seem to be winning back some supporters who have been disappointed in his job performance.
These results are from an IBOPE Zogby interactive poll conducted Sept. 23-26 of all likely voters and of likely Republican primary voters.
Announced GOP Candidates (GOP primary voters)
If the Republican primary for President were held today, for whom would you vote?
This poll was conducted after Perry's most recent subpar debate performance last Thursday, but the survey was still in the field when Cain won a Florida straw poll on Sunday. Cain was the top choice of only 8% a month ago.
(Excerpt) Read more at zogby.com ...
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He sounds allright in my book more experience than Obama thats for sure but then again who hasnt
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Cain went through "burger boot camp," putting burgers on the broiler himself and learning the restaurants' operations from the ground up. He went on the road, visiting other franchises in the region and getting other managers to improve operations. Colleagues remember him as a sharp manager and an inspirational leader with a knack for getting people to work together.
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Cain has all the traits we need for the next POTUS. A real guy who has worked his ass off, had success, and knows WTF is going on.
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I agree he seems to be a good candidate
However the next time a repub talks about class warfare im gonna puke
Does that mean cutting benefits to the poor and middle class is class warfare as well?
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The government isn't supposed to help anyone. Lol
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The government isn't supposed to help anyone. Lol
Then they really shouldnt complain that Obama is not fixing the economy ;)
Im trolling a little Cain is worlds better than Obama however the class warfare bullshit is getting old
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I agree he seems to be a good candidate
However the next time a repub talks about class warfare im gonna puke
Does that mean cutting benefits to the poor and middle class is class warfare as well?
The class warfare thing is definately true as obama's plans hit filers making 200k. Is that guy the same guy as a millionaire billionaire jet owner?
Screw obama and his daily lie machine. Does he EVER talk about growing the pie? Never! Its always about how to make the pie smaller and redistribute what is thjere according to him and his communist values.
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Then they really shouldnt complain that Obama is not fixing the economy ;)
Im trolling a little Cain is worlds better than Obama however the class warfare bullshit is getting old
obama is making it worse by adding endless regulations, uncertainty, and chos into the system.
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obama is making it worse by adding endless regulations, uncertainty, and chos into the system.
I dont hate Obama with the passion that you do but we can agree that we need a new pres for sure
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Work, you read bits of that "confidence" book about OB or watched a few interviews?
That will make you very mad at him at he very least. No need to be obsessive though :D
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Work, you read bits of that "confidence" book about OB or watched a few interviews?
That will make you very mad at him at he very least. No need to be obsessive though :D
I bought the book and am reading it now - what a clusterfuck this entire admn is.
Funny too - guess what erskine Bowles told obama the first thing he needed to do was if he wanted to have a good presidency and WH operation? This was before Obama actually took office and when they were setting up the staff -
Leave Rahmn, Jarret, Axelrod and the Chicago gang home.
From Day 1 Obama has ignored sound advice from people far smarter than he is and we all have to suffer as a result of this mans incredible arrogance, ego, ineptness, and bizarre mentality.
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:)
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Unless he pulls of something big i vote RP though
Only true conservative
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I have been watching Ratigan on msnbc a lot lately and he's ripped on Obama non stop.
Most people have no real clue how sinister and at the same time incompetent in some of the stuff he has done. Once you learn the details it's hard not to call him a stooge.
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I have been watching Ratigan on msnbc a lot lately and he's ripped on Obama non stop.
Most people have no real clue how sinister and at the same time incompetent in some of the stuff he has done. Once you learn the details it's hard not to call him a stooge.
The level of incompetence, corruption, malfeasance, lack of accountability, waste, fraud, abuse, divisive behavior, and lack of any leadership whatsoever is unlike anything I have ever seen.
And it was from Day 1 with the Stim Bill & Bailouts, and went downhill from there between Cap & Trade, Health Care, Fast N Furious, Solndra, etc etc.
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I have been watching Ratigan on msnbc a lot lately and he's ripped on Obama non stop.
Most people have no real clue how sinister and at the same time incompetent in some of the stuff he has done. Once you learn the details it's hard not to call him a stooge.
sinister???......what is Obama?...Dracula?..WOW...overstatement
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Yeah it's as if in a time when our country needed a great president we ended up getting a freshman feeling his way arund the oval office. And to make it worse, as yu say, one with ZERO leadership wisdom.
Hillary would have done a much better job.
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sinister???......what is Obama?...Dracula?..WOW...overstatement
no - not Dracula. He is the Damien Thorn potus.
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sinister???......what is Obama?...Dracula?..WOW...overstatement
Start by reading up on the Panamanian free trade agreement. I just thought he was a bad president up to that point, but when I heard his speech on it and read into the details the word sinister applies.
But before you do that you worthless piece of shit, you have a unfinished business:
your article which shows how Ghadaffi detained, imprisoned and murdered his opponents...makes you look bad in light of your belief that Ghadaffi was for the U.S. and according to you never harmed a fly
Prove it, Andre
Or continue to squirm and soon everyone on this forum will know what you are all about if many don't already know.
Until then shut your ignorant pie hole. :)
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Yeah it's as if in a time when our country needed a great president we ended up getting a freshman feeling his way arund the oval office. And to make it worse, as yu say, one with ZERO leadership wisdom.
Hillary would have done a much better job.
A perfect example is this "jobs bill" issue. I mean WTF! ! ! ! ! ! He is why I hate this asshole more than anyone in a long time.
1. Gets shellacked in the mid terms. Now he has a gop house and divided Senate. So he cant ram anything through any more. Everyone knows this.
2. He dicks around for a few months - and then announces before his vacation that he will announce something afterwards.
3. He never confers w boehner or even reid as to what can or will pass. A real leader does this all ahead of time so he knows what is feasible. Never does that.
4. Goes on gaudy vacation and gives stupid speech in front of congress with the typical lame brain nonsense.
5. Makes proposal everyone knows has ZERO chance of passing. Then, he goes on stupid bus tour promoting this same bogus plan knowing it wont pass and getting everyone all pissed off.
6. Then he pivots to divisive nonsense on tax hikes and calling GOP names etc. Does he not think this is killing any chance to pass anything or is that his goal?
See my point? He is intentionally creating chaos by doing this shit he and everyone knowsd has no chance of passing. So why even bother?
All he cares about is his job, no one elses.
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no - not Dracula. He is the Damien Thorn potus.
Cue the Latin demonic chant music lol.
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Cue the Latin demonic chant music lol.
Here you go - LMFAO!
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Hahahahahaahahhaha
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Start by reading up on the Panamanian free trade agreement. I just thought he was a bad president up to that point, but when I heard his speech on it and read into the details the word sinister applies.
But before you do that you worthless piece of shit, you have a unfinished business:
Prove it, Andre
Or continue to squirm and soon everyone on this forum will know what you are all about if many don't already know.
Until then shut your ignorant pie hole. :)
If you are going to behave like this then why are you a mod???....all I said was that you are overstating....saying that the POTUS is "sinister"..wow...come on...you are venturing into 3333's territory in terms of rhetoric
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HAha good stuff
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If you are going to behave like this then why are you a mod???....all I said was that you are overstating....saying that the POTUS is "sinister"..wow...come on...you are venturing into 3333's territory in terms of rhetoric
Ha ha ha - get your bunny slippers off and marching shoes on Andre! We a go marchin today fo jobs!
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If you are going to behave like this then why are you a mod???....all I said was that you are overstating....saying that the POTUS is "sinister"..wow...come on...you are venturing into 3333's territory in terms of rhetoric
Hi my name is: Andre and I am one ignorant fucking moron. Which would be ok, but I also have no integrity and I am a coward.
Read up on the Panamanian thing Andre and address your unfinished business, skippy.
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Hi my name is: Andre and I am one ignorant fucking moron. Which would be ok, but I also have no integrity and I am a coward.
Read up on the Panamanian thing Andre and address your unfinished business, skippy.
I think Reid is actually the one actually stopping all of the obama crazy shit now. I believe that Boehner and Reid probably met and both agreed that obama needs to go or at least be stopped and are playing good cop bad cop and letting obama out there to hang right now.
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I think Reid is actually the one actually stopping all of the obama crazy shit now. I believe that Boehner and Reid probably met and both agreed that obama needs to go or at least be stopped and are playing good cop bad cop and letting obama out there to hang right now.
I think you actually have that backwards..I think Reid and Pelosi are crazier and more liberal than Obama and Obama is actually stopping some of their more crazier ideas from going thru
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Hi my name is: Andre and I am one ignorant fucking moron. Which would be ok, but I also have no integrity and I am a coward.
Read up on the Panamanian thing Andre and address your unfinished business, skippy.
very funny how obsessed you have become with me...keep chasing...I am NOT going to send you pictures of my cock no matter how hard you pursue me :D
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Ok Joke boy. ::)
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I think Reid is actually the one actually stopping all of the obama crazy shit now. I believe that Boehner and Reid probably met and both agreed that obama needs to go or at least be stopped and are playing good cop bad cop and letting obama out there to hang right now.
He had his chance to be great president in march of 2009.
Or you could be so in love with Obama you just talk out of your ass most of the time.
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very funny how obsessed you have become with me...keep chasing...I am NOT going to send you pictures of my cock no matter how hard you pursue me :D
Bro - we all know you have an obessesion with women w hairy arm pits, maybe thats what you are looking for?
No wonder you love michelle obama so much now. it all makes sense.
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very funny how obsessed you have become with me...keep chasing...I am NOT going to send you pictures of my cock no matter how hard you pursue me :D
Yeah what ever dude, keep running, keep deflecting. You are what you are. Tedious at best, and usually just stupid.
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Yeah what ever dude, keep running, keep deflecting. You are what you are. Tedious at best, and usually just stupid.
you're the one who entered the thread attacking me for no reason......if you don't like what I say then don't respond or just refute it..why the vicious attack?..uncalled for....especially as a mod
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Bro - we all know you have an obessesion with women w hairy arm pits, maybe thats what you are looking for?
No wonder you love michelle obama so much now. it all makes sense.
I do think Michelle is beautiful, yes..I make no bones about it.....she looks like a model..I would do her in a second without thinking
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I do think Michelle is beautiful, yes..I make no bones about it.....she looks like a model..I would do her in a second without thinking
::)
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you're the one who entered the thread attacking me for no reason......if you don't like what I say then don't respond or just refute it..why the vicious attack?..uncalled for....especially as a mod
Just asking you to back up your words. Anyone with any character would have. That doesn't apply to you. So I have fun reminding you of it:
your article which shows how Ghadaffi detained, imprisoned and murdered his opponents...makes you look bad in light of your belief that Ghadaffi was for the U.S. and according to you never harmed a fly
Prove it, Andre
Or continue to squirm and soon everyone on this forum will know what you are all about if many don't already know.
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This might even be you Andre. The style of arguing is the same: no accountability and no character.
You should be proud of yourself.
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This might even be you Andre. The style of arguing is the same: no accountability and no character.
You should be proud of yourself.
sure..whatever
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sure..whatever
Pretty much the same thing though huh?
He doesn't want to cop to beIng fraudulent and neither do you.
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Cue the Latin demonic chant music lol.
LOL. You beat me to that remark!
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TRENDING: Cain: Black community 'brainwashed' into voting for Dems
CNN ^
Posted on September 28, 2011 7:32:59 PM EDT by nuconvert
Washington (CNN) - The one African-American running for the GOP presidential nomination said Wednesday the black community was 'brainwashed' for traditionally siding with liberal politicians.
"African-Americans have been brainwashed into not being open minded, not even considering a conservative point of view," Cain said on CNN's "The Situation Room" in an interview airing Wednesday between 5-7 p.m. ET. "I have received some of that same vitriol simply because I am running for the Republican nomination as a conservative. So it's just brainwashing and people not being open minded, pure and simple."
Cain went on to explain that his interactions with African Americans led him to be optimistic about his own chances with the demographic.
(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cn n.com ...
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It has nothing to do with ideology. Why vote for someone who'll end or curtail government assitnece programs that the voter of the family or friends of the voter depends on.
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Palin likes him so much,
she affectionately calls him "Herb"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/28/sarah-palin-herman-cain_n_984868.html
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Shouldn't she be using her mouth for glen-rice-related duties, instead of not trashing other republicans?
What happened to reagan's rule that she lectured others on?
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Herman Cain: AWG is a Scam
The SPPI Blogs ^ | unknown | Tom Nelson
Herman Cain wins the GOP Florida straw poll: Don’t miss this short list of his well-informed quotes about the global warming scam
Dec ’09: Herman Cain: T*H*E New Voice
[By Herman Cain] I learned early on that with any computer program the principle of “garbage in means garbage out” is always true. When you do not use all of the empirical data to develop your mathematical model it is “garbage in.”
It is outrageous that the head of the United Nations, the head of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency and the Obama Administration are all dismissing these revelations as they push onward with their political agenda in the face of scientifically manufactured results.
This is no longer a controversy. This is conclusive. And once again, liberals choose to ignore the facts.
It’s a scam.
Herman Cain wins GOP Florida straw poll; Rick Perry in second place – Washington Times
He received 37 percent of the more than 2,600 votes cast.
Flashback: New Hampshire Primary 2012: Green: Herman Cain global warming is poppycock
Herman Cain: Manmade global warming is poppycock. I hope I can say that on your show.
Mark Levin: You know you can.
Herman Cain: In other words, I don’t believe in it.
Look, if people look at the real data, the climate had varied ever since we’ve known that the planet is here. And we know that those scientists who tried to concoct the science to say we had a hockey stick global warming and they were busted because they manipulated the data.
No! This manmade global warming is not a crisis.
June 2011: Herman Cain interview: Full transcript – CBS News
HERMAN CAIN: I don’t believe global war– global warming is real. Do we have climate change? Yes. Is it a crisis, no. And this is why I strongly oppose the– the cap in trade, and tax and kill bill that Congress passed, even though it didn’t get through the Senate yet. And this is why I went to that rally today, about the RGGI, the you know, Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative. I said that it needed to be called the RGGR, Regional Greenhouse Gas Rip-off. Because that’s all it is.
It has already imposed $777 million on to people of this region. Why? Because it provided another source of taxation for the bureaucrats to– to create another hidden tax. So absolutely I don’t believe that it’s (UNINTEL)– because the science, the real science doesn’t say that we have any major crisis or threat, when it comes to climate change.
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Raising Cain
Weekly Standard ^ | 10/01/11 | Fred Barnes
Both President Obama and Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain went to graduate school. Obama got a degree at Harvard Law School. Cain did his graduate work at Purdue and Burger King University. That doesn’t tell you all you need to know about the difference between Obama and Cain, but it explains a lot.
Obama and Cain are African Americans, but there the likeness ends. Obama is a liberal, Cain a conservative. Their parents, their upbringing, their education, their careers, the lessons they learned from life—these are as dissimilar as where they’ve wound up, Obama in the White House and Cain as a successful corporate executive.
Until recent months, there was no reason to consider the contrast between the two. But now Obama’s presidency is crumbling. His reelection in 2012 is in jeopardy. The economy is weak, and Americans disapprove of his handling of it by a two-to-one margin. Even in the Democrat-controlled Senate, there aren’t enough votes to pass his new jobs bill.
Cain’s campaign is surging. After strong performances in four nationally televised Republican debates last month, he jumped into third place in the GOP race in a Fox News poll at 17 percent, close behind Rick Perry (19 percent) and Mitt Romney (23 percent). A Rasmussen poll of likely voters in late September found Cain trailing Obama, 39 percent to 34 percent.
Thus the interest in the backgrounds of Cain and Obama. Much of Obama’s is known. His mother was an academic with a Ph.D. in anthropology. She had two failed marriages to foreigners. Obama’s father, a Kenyan student, left the family when Obama was a toddler. From ages 6 to 10, Barack lived with his mother and his Indonesian stepfather and half-sister in Jakarta, then went back to Hawaii to live with his grandparents.
Cain’s early life was far more stable. He grew up in a black section of Atlanta. His mother worked as a maid, his father as a barber, janitor, and chauffeur. “Dad worked all three jobs until he could make it off two jobs,” Cain writes in This Is Herman Cain! My Journey to the White House, his fifth book. “Then he worked those two jobs until he could make it off of one job. That’s the experience shared by many Americans.” Not Obama’s parents.
In Atlanta, Cain went to segregated Archer High School. In 1967, he graduated from Morehouse College, a bus ride away from his home. He majored in math. In Honolulu, starting in fifth grade, Obama went to Punahou, one of the most prestigious private schools in the country. He spent two years at Occidental College in Los Angeles before transferring to Columbia, where he majored in political science, followed by Harvard Law, where he was editor of the law review.
Neither Cain nor Obama took part in the civil rights movement in the early 1960s. Cain, now 65 years old, was in school, and Obama, 50, was a child. But Cain experienced segregation more than Obama did. In 1963, his applications were turned down at the University of Georgia and Georgia Tech. “Having been desegregated for only two years, they chose to keep black students at a minimum,” Cain writes.
Cain says he benefited from the civil rights movement when he graduated from all-black Morehouse. “I received 25 job offers, and they came from some of America’s most respected and successful corporations,” he says.
One more contrast. Church attendance was a staple of Cain’s rearing, and today he’s an evangelical Christian. His faith helped him through stage 4 cancer when 70 percent of his liver and 30 percent of his colon were removed. Having survived, he says, “My journey is God’s plan.” That includes his “journey to the White House.” Obama embraced Christianity as an adult in Chicago. Unlike Cain’s faith, Obama’s stresses the social gospel rather than salvation through belief in Christ as his savior.
What did Cain and Obama learn from their families and education? “One of the most important lessons Dad taught us was not to feel like victims,” Cain writes. “He never felt like a victim. He never talked like a victim. And both our parents taught us not to think that the government owed us something. They didn’t teach us to be mad at this country.”
Based on his career, Obama didn’t draw the same lessons. He concluded America is an unjust country. He became a community organizer, a civil rights lawyer, a state senator, a U.S. senator, and president—all the while pursuing liberal efforts to aid perceived victims of the free-market economy through strong government intervention.
Cain entered the market economy, succeeding at Pillsbury, Godfather’s Pizza, and Burger King. He writes about going to Burger King U., where new managers are taught the hamburger business. He learned “the broiler, steamer, burger board, Whopper board, specialty sandwich board, and fry station.”
While still in school, Cain writes, “I began to develop my concept of being responsible for one’s success or failure in life—a concept I would later come to define as being a ‘CEO of Self’—a time when many of the qualities of determination and leadership that I inherited from my dad began to show up.” Obama stresses collective action.
Yet it’s his faith in himself, along with God’s calling, that has led Cain to believe he can capture the presidency. He wasn’t deterred by losing a Senate bid in Georgia in 2004. When he took over Godfather’s Pizza, it was on the brink of bankruptcy. He mastered “pizzaology,” introduced the “Big Value” of two large pizzas for $12, and turned the company around.
“I see parallels between the situation that existed at Godfather’s when I came on board and the state of our Union today,” he writes. Obama is “in denial,” Cain says. “He’s a weak leader, his economic policies have failed, and he’s been inconsistent on foreign policy.” Cain “will do what I did when I helped restore Godfather’s Pizza.” That means conservative policies and the tenacity to see them through.
His upbringing may explain his gift for delivering a conservative message with a friendly face, as Ronald Reagan did. “I also like to smile, laugh, and have fun with people,” he says. Obama is lugubrious. He lectures. He gives excuses. His speeches are anything but fun.
But Obama has the White House, a bulging war chest, a vast campaign staff, powerful interest groups, and the media. Three or four Republican candidates have resources Cain cannot match. He has himself. But if all continues to go well for him, help may be on the way.
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Awesome - Cain tied for first.
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One poll today had him tied with Romney for second.
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I like π (pi) but really, bro, you strap yourself to every republican flavor of the month.
Right now it's Cain, 2 months ago it was Perry, 5 months ago it was Bachmann, a year ago it was Palin.
The republicans have a huge issue right now in that everyone ends up being a fuckup after they are completely vetted.
Except that Paul guy... he has some kooky ideas, but hell, we've tried it this way the past 10+ years, let's try it his way... Can't get any worse.
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Awesome - Cain tied for first.
dude he is a 95%er... whats going on with you... based on the color of his skin alone, that disqualifies him
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dude he is a 95%er... whats going on with you... based on the color of his skin alone, that disqualifies him
;D
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dude he is a 95%er... whats going on with you... based on the color of his skin alone, that disqualifies him
No, he is a 5%er, one of the few AA who can actually think for themselves and not engage in herd behavior.
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No, he is a 5%er, one of the few AA who can actually think for themselves and not engage in herd behavior.
he's an alcoholic ??? ;D
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No, he is a 5%er, one of the few AA who can actually think for themselves and not engage in herd behavior.
"One of the few"... chump... go down to Atlanta... Morehouse college.. (where Cain went... oh.. and so did i).
Those brothers would run circles around your brain...
Fam you know jack shit about "AA" you fuckin idiot
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"One of the few"... chump... go down to Atlanta... Morehouse college.. (where Cain went... oh.. and so did i).
Those brothers would run circles around your brain...
Fam you know jack shit about "AA" you fuckin idiot
Politically speaking - there is no group who votes in such lockstep like AA.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Morehouse_College_alumni
Just in case you wanted to see some of the "few"
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I like π (pi) but really, bro, you strap yourself to every republican flavor of the month.
Right now it's Cain, 2 months ago it was Perry, 5 months ago it was Bachmann, a year ago it was Palin.
The republicans have a huge issue right now in that everyone ends up being a fuckup after they are completely vetted.
Except that Paul guy... he has some kooky ideas, but hell, we've tried it this way the past 10+ years, let's try it his way... Can't get any worse.
Uh, isn't this why we go through the process?
So we can make an informed decision on the candidate we would like to vote for? Of course it changes as the candidates mess up or you learn more about their political beliefs.
You can count me on the Herman Cain bandwagon.
P.S. Paul would be the death of America with his foreign policy.
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Uh, isn't this why we go through the process?
So we can make an informed decision on the candidate we would like to vote for? Of course it changes as the candidates mess up or you learn more about their political beliefs.
You can count me on the Herman Cain bandwagon.
P.S. Paul would be the death of America with his foreign policy.
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wow - most powerful ad yet.
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Uh, isn't this why we go through the process?
So we can make an informed decision on the candidate we would like to vote for? Of course it changes as the candidates mess up or you learn more about their political beliefs.
You can count me on the Herman Cain bandwagon.
P.S. Paul would be the death of America with his foreign policy.
Sure, but learning and talking such great things about candidates before you know stuff about them is pretty silly.
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Sure, but learning and talking such great things about candidates before you know stuff about them is pretty silly.
Why? Everybody did that exact thing when it came to our Community Organizer in Chief.
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Why? Everybody did that exact thing when it came to our Community Organizer in Chief.
I don't think that's true... I had never really thought twice about Obama before the actually primary elections started.
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YEAH! Choke on that you "Ron PAul would destroy America" idiots. Awesome. Bring em home, now.
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Was watching a Cain interview last night. I think I may have written him off too soon. He sounds really good. He might be the only guy in the race that doesn't talk a politician. I like what I'm hearing from him. Love his approach.
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Was watching a Cain interview last night. I think I may have written him off too soon. He sounds really good. He might be the only guy in the race that doesn't talk a politician. I like what I'm hearing from him. Love his approach.
HAHAHAHA!!! Weren't you talking shit about this guy earlier?
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We'll find out if Palin was right over the next few weeks.
Cain jabs Palin again over 'flavor the week' comment
By: CNN Political Unit
Washington (CNN) – Rising GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain turned Sarah Palin’s words against her Wednesday, saying he's unconcerned about a potential White House bid by the former Alaska governor as she’d be the “flavor of the week.”
"The thing about Cain supporters is we build, and then we build, and we build," Cain said Wednesday at a book signing in Florida. "They don't defect. My supporters aren't going to run to the flavor of the week."
Palin previously knocked Cain's recent surge in the polls, casting him as the "flavor of the week" after he won a much-watched Florida straw poll nearly two weeks ago.
But this isn't the first time Cain, former CEO of Godfather's Pizza, showed his pique at Palin’s ice cream analogy.
In an appearance on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno," Cain joked Friday that his "flavor" was Haagan-Daas Black Walnut.
"Substance, that's the difference. I got the substance," Cain told Leno. "I'm the Black Walnut. It lasts longer than a week."
According to recent national polls, Cain has jumped to top-tier status in the 2012 GOP presidential race, joining former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Texas Gov. Rick Perry.
Palin has said she's still considering a run but faces an Oct. 28 filing deadline for the first-in-the-nation primary in New Hampshire.
"What happens if Sarah Palin gets in? Well, if Sarah Palin gets in, we got one more person in the race. That's all there is to it," Cain said Wednesday.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/05/cain-jabs-palin-again-over-flavor-the-week-comment/#more-178995
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Notice when I started this thread? ;D ;D ;D
With sarah out now - her rabid supporters are going to go to Cain.
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Notice when I started this thread? ;D ;D ;D
With sarah out now - her rabid supporters are going to go to Cain.
Good call (starting the thread).
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1. Herman Cain is popular in the South. There's no question that just about any candidate from the GOP will carry most of the South...but Florida, Virginia and North Carolina are pivotal states. A Southerner on the ticket might solidify victories there as all three states were narrowly won by President Obama in 2008. If the GOP is to take back the White House, these three states are key.
2. Herman has practical experience. It's true that Herman has very little political experience, but Dwight Eisenhower didn't either. Cain's experience in the business world is unmatched by any candidate that has ever run for the presidency and practical knowledge is what is despirately needed to turn this country around right now, not lifetime politicians who are only looking to do what is politically right.
3. Herman is a strong advocate for the defense of our country. He has invoked President Reagan's philosophy of "Peace by Strength" but Herman has added "With Clarity" to his vision of foreign policy. He has also made it very clear that, as he told the Israeli Deputy Prime Minister, "If you mess with Israel, you mess with the United States." In a recent debate between all of the GOP candidates, only Cain tackled the question of Palestinian statehood and said,“If, in fact, it was clear to the Palestinians where the U.S. stood, they might have had second thoughts about trying to pull such a move without negotiating with Israel.” There is no doubt where this man stands, a statement that does not hold true for the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
4. Herman has an actual plan for economic growth. His 9-9-9 Plan puts a 9% flat tax on 9% tax on businesses, a 9% flat tax on income and a 9% national sales tax. This would eliminate the IRS while making businesses and individuals pay their fair share. It was also eliminate the death tax, payroll taxes and end nearly all deductions and special interest favors.
5. Herman is simply a likeable person. He talks common sense and plainly unlike a 'normal' politician. Ross Perot showed many years ago that the American people appreciated someone who would break things down to the lowest common denominator. Cain does just that and doesn't pull punches. He's taken a little heat for some of his comments, but one thing is for sure: When Herman speaks, it comes from his heart. If it were a prerequisite of our leaders not to make mistakes while making a speech, we certainly wouldn't have the 'human-gaffe machine' Joe Biden as Vice-President.
I did save Herman's most 'electable' quality for last....
6. Herman makes people feel proud to be an American again. If after you listen to a speech by Herman Cain and you don't feel the inspirational little hairs on the back of your neck stand at attention, you're in the advanced stages of rigor mortis. Much like President Reagan did to revive the country after the 'national malaise' of four years of Jimmy Carter, Herman Cain will make the United States respected again, not only globally but by our own people too. I can promise you that you will never see Herman Cain bowing to a foreign dignatary nor will you hear of him disrespecting the Israelis, while at the same time appeasing the Muslim community. (Please don't get the wrong idea...I know there are peaceful Muslims in the world. I'm writing about Muslims that live under Sharia law or terrorist states, not peaceful members of the world community.)
In short, there is no doubt in my mind that Herman Cain is electable and will be a very good President. The field of Republican candidates is one of the most diverse we have ever fielded: There is one female (Michele Bachmann), two members of the Mormon church (Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman), two Lutherans (Gary Johnson and Bachmann), two Catholics (Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum), one Methodist (Rick Perry), and two Baptists (Ron Paul and Herman Cain). With all of that diversity, there is only one Herman Cain. He's an American original who is certainly electable and should never be taken lightly.
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Poll: Cain Overtakes Romney With GOP Primary Voters
Newsmax ^ | 10/4/11 | David Patten
Posted on October 5, 2011 3:29:18 PM EDT by justsaynomore
A Newsmax/InsiderAdvantage poll shows businessman and radio talk-host Herman Cain now leading former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney among likely GOP primary voters in the fight for the 2012 Republican nomination. The exclusive poll, taken in the past 24 hours, shows Cain vaulting Romney 26 percent to 24 percent. The poll has a margin of error of 4.4 percent. Several other polls show similar results, establishing Cain as the new grass-roots frontrunner deadlocked with Romney, the establishment Republican choice. A new CBS poll showed Cain and Romney deadlocked, with each candidate garnering 17 percent of the vote. And a Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday shows Romney leading Cain 22 percent to 17 percent — a statistical tie due to the poll’s margin of error.
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Posted on October 5, 2011 3:29:18 PM EDT by justsaynomore
A Newsmax/InsiderAdvantage poll shows businessman and radio talk-host Herman Cain now leading former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney among likely GOP primary voters in the fight for the 2012 Republican nomination. The exclusive poll, taken in the past 24 hours, shows Cain vaulting Romney 26 percent to 24 percent. The poll has a margin of error of 4.4 percent. Several other polls show similar results, establishing Cain as the new grass-roots frontrunner deadlocked with Romney, the establishment Republican choice. A new CBS poll showed Cain and Romney deadlocked, with each candidate garnering 17 percent of the vote. And a Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday shows Romney leading Cain 22 percent to 17 percent — a statistical tie due to the poll’s margin of error.
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:o That is pretty cool.
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This Is Candidate Cain - Ten things I learned from his new book, This Is Herman Cain!: My Journey...
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | October 3, 2011 | Katrina Trinko
This Is Candidate Cain
Ten things I learned from his new book, This Is Herman Cain!: My Journey to the White House.
First things first: There is no 9-9-9 plan in This Is Herman Cain!: My Journey to the White House.
But other than that notable omission, which is due to the fact that the book was written before the campaign developed the 9-9-9 tax-reform plan, the book reads exactly like the optimistic, sunny speech that brought down the house at Florida’s Presidency 5 straw poll.
Sprinkled throughout the 167 pages of This Is Herman Cain! are numerous interesting tidbits for those fascinated by the pizza mogul–turned–presidential candidate: He wears gold ties because “gold is my power color,” he can see his Secret Service codename being “Cornbread” (one of his favorite foods), and he generally gets standing ovations — except for the one time he spoke before accountants, who are “trained to be unemotional” and reserved their enthusiasm for the written feedback forms.
There’s plenty more throughout the book. Here, in no particular order, are the top ten factoids in This Is Herman Cain!
Cain’s Relationship with Teleprompters: On page 2, Cain makes it clear he places no faith in teleprompters, saying he doesn’t “do teleprompters” because he is “a leader, not a reader.” But on page 166, Cain concedes that if he becomes president, he will “use a teleprompter, but only to make sure I get the names right.” That’s because “reading it word for word . . . would distract from interjecting some emotion.” Flip-flop? Or simply an evolution in his thoughts about teleprompters over the course of 164 pages? That’s for you to decide.
Cain’s Early Leadership Qualities: When he was just eight years old, Cain gave his first speech at his church. He first ran for office in seventh grade, vying to be class president. He lost, but ran again when he was a high-school senior, “having been urged to do so by some of my classmates who recognized leadership qualities in me before I did.” He doesn’t say whether that recognition became widespread among his classmates: There is no mention of whether Cain won that election.
The Hillarycare Speech: Cain had a distinguished career by 1994, but it was his speech to President Clinton detailing how the Clintons’ health-care program would derail the economy that first catapulted the businessman to political fame. Because of his respect for the presidential office, Cain says he was “nervous” before speaking — an unusual sentiment for him. Cain told Clinton that the cost of his proposed health-care program “is simply a cost that will cause us to eliminate jobs.” His four-minute speech to Clinton elicited a response: In the months following the speech, “hundreds of people let me know — either in person or by letter — that my town hall meeting ‘chat’ with President Clinton had inspired them to telephone their congressperson and to believe that . . . something could be done to stop” Hillarycare.
Cain Loves the Number 45: Cain was born in 1945, and he sees the number 45 as significant in his life. In a chapter entitled “‘Forty-five’ — A Special Number,” Cain details some of the ways 45 has popped up in his life: A vital flight was numbered 1045, an important speech he gave in Tennessee was interrupted by applause 45 times, and a weekly column in June, “Watch and Hope Won’t Work,” reached exactly 645 words. His first exposure to The Road to Serfdom was when someone sent him the 1945 Reader’s Digest article that condensed Hayek’s famous work. Of course, there’s one more reason 45 is so special to Cain: The next president will be number 45. And as Cain notes, “In 2013, my first year in the White House, Gloria and I will be celebrating our forty-fifth wedding anniversary.”
Cain’s Literary Background: This Is Herman Cain! is not Cain’s first book. He’s written four other books: Leadership Is Common Sense (1997), Speak as a Leader (1999), CEO of SELF: You’re in Charge (2001), They Think You’re Stupid: Why Democrats Lost Your Vote and What Republicans Must Do to Keep It (2005). (Considering the Democratic sweep in 2006, Cain may have not published that last tome at the most auspicious time.) He is also a poet under the name “The Hermanator.” When his first grandchild, Celena, was born in 1999, he was moved to write a four-stanza tribute entitled “Little Faces.” Sample stanza: “For a moment, I didn’t know who I was or where / I could only think of her and so happy to be there / Born into the world with all the other little faces / What will we do, to make it a better place?”
Jabs at Opponents: With the exception of Ron Paul, Cain says virtually nothing about his GOP rivals. He takes one crack at Mitt Romney, in the section on Hillarycare, writing, “Bill Clinton’s — and Hillary’s — health-care plan failed, only to be revived in somewhat different form in Massachusetts by Mitt Romney and in the White House by Barack Obama.” Cain, a former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, says he is open to auditing the Fed, but does not consider it a top issue. He complains about “Ron Paul, whose campaign sends one of its ‘Paulites’ everywhere I show up,” and asserts that the Paulites’ intent is “to agitate, not to educate.” Cain says he knows it’s a “deliberate strategy” because “how can a person randomly show up at a hundred events and ask the same stupid question to try to nail me on the Federal Reserve?”
Cain Believes in Happy Employees: Tired of surly DMV employees? Ready to lose it if one more postal worker glares at you? Well, get ready to pull the lever for President Cain. When managing a Burger King restaurant, Cain became frustrated when he wasn’t allowed to make any significant changes, including changing prices or increasing the amount spent on marketing. As he tried to figure out how he could increase profits, he noticed his Burger King cashiers were failing to radiate good cheer as they rang up customers. So he “established the BEAMER program, which taught our employees, mostly teenagers, how to make our patrons smile” by smiling themselves. It was a success: “Within three months of the program’s initiation, the sales trend was moving steadily higher.”
Faith Sustained Him Through Cancer Treatment: In 2006, Cain was diagnosed with stage-4 colon cancer — and given a 30 percent chance of survival. During that difficult time, he and his wife, Gloria, took consolation in their faith, relying on a couple of fortuitous signs, such as a medical staffer being named “Grace” and the fact that the incision into him during his operation to remove the cancer was made in the shape of a “J” — for “Jesus.” Speculating about why he was blessed with a full recovery, Cain wonders, “Did it have something to do with the Lord wanting me to survive so that I might help set this great nation of ours on its own path of recovery?”
CEO of Self: As a high-school student, Cain began to consider how he was responsible for his future success or failure, and the importance of making (and reaching) goals. Ultimately, he decided there were three steps necessary to become a “CEO of Self” that he calls “ROI.” The three steps are: “R: Remove barriers that prevent self-motivation to achieve goals; O: Obtain the right results by working on the right problems; I: Inspiration. Learn to inspire yourself.”
Why Cain Can Win in 2012: Cain is optimistic about his chances of winning the Republican primary and then the general election. (The last chapter of the book is him imagining what it will be like to be president.) He knows that not everyone agrees: National Review’s own Jonah Goldberg is singled out as an example of “media negativity” for saying in December that it was “hard to imagine” Cain being “more than an exciting also-ran.” And Cain acknowledges he has three weaknesses that could hinder his candidacy: that he doesn’t “claim to know everything,” he doesn’t “pander to groups,” and he is “terrible at political correctness.” But he thinks his strengths — his talent for speeches, his ability to come up with solutions, and his talent for hiring the right people — will prevail. Another advantage, to him, is that he likes “to smile, laugh, and have fun with people,” traits that he thinks “people can handle . . . in a presidential candidate.”
Ultimately, Cain views himself as “Barack Obama’s worst nightmare!” He muses that perhaps his parents should have made his middle name David because that Biblical figure “defeated a giant against the odds.” For Cain, that’s the goal in 2012.
— Katrina Trinko is an NRO reporter.
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This Is Candidate Cain - Ten things I learned from his new book, This Is Herman Cain!: My Journey...
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | October 3, 2011 | Katrina Trinko
This Is Candidate Cain
Ten things I learned from his new book, This Is Herman Cain!: My Journey to the White House.
First things first: There is no 9-9-9 plan in This Is Herman Cain!: My Journey to the White House.
But other than that notable omission, which is due to the fact that the book was written before the campaign developed the 9-9-9 tax-reform plan, the book reads exactly like the optimistic, sunny speech that brought down the house at Florida’s Presidency 5 straw poll.
Sprinkled throughout the 167 pages of This Is Herman Cain! are numerous interesting tidbits for those fascinated by the pizza mogul–turned–presidential candidate: He wears gold ties because “gold is my power color,” he can see his Secret Service codename being “Cornbread” (one of his favorite foods), and he generally gets standing ovations — except for the one time he spoke before accountants, who are “trained to be unemotional” and reserved their enthusiasm for the written feedback forms.
There’s plenty more throughout the book. Here, in no particular order, are the top ten factoids in This Is Herman Cain!
Cain’s Relationship with Teleprompters: On page 2, Cain makes it clear he places no faith in teleprompters, saying he doesn’t “do teleprompters” because he is “a leader, not a reader.” But on page 166, Cain concedes that if he becomes president, he will “use a teleprompter, but only to make sure I get the names right.” That’s because “reading it word for word . . . would distract from interjecting some emotion.” Flip-flop? Or simply an evolution in his thoughts about teleprompters over the course of 164 pages? That’s for you to decide.
Cain’s Early Leadership Qualities: When he was just eight years old, Cain gave his first speech at his church. He first ran for office in seventh grade, vying to be class president. He lost, but ran again when he was a high-school senior, “having been urged to do so by some of my classmates who recognized leadership qualities in me before I did.” He doesn’t say whether that recognition became widespread among his classmates: There is no mention of whether Cain won that election.
The Hillarycare Speech: Cain had a distinguished career by 1994, but it was his speech to President Clinton detailing how the Clintons’ health-care program would derail the economy that first catapulted the businessman to political fame. Because of his respect for the presidential office, Cain says he was “nervous” before speaking — an unusual sentiment for him. Cain told Clinton that the cost of his proposed health-care program “is simply a cost that will cause us to eliminate jobs.” His four-minute speech to Clinton elicited a response: In the months following the speech, “hundreds of people let me know — either in person or by letter — that my town hall meeting ‘chat’ with President Clinton had inspired them to telephone their congressperson and to believe that . . . something could be done to stop” Hillarycare.
Cain Loves the Number 45: Cain was born in 1945, and he sees the number 45 as significant in his life. In a chapter entitled “‘Forty-five’ — A Special Number,” Cain details some of the ways 45 has popped up in his life: A vital flight was numbered 1045, an important speech he gave in Tennessee was interrupted by applause 45 times, and a weekly column in June, “Watch and Hope Won’t Work,” reached exactly 645 words. His first exposure to The Road to Serfdom was when someone sent him the 1945 Reader’s Digest article that condensed Hayek’s famous work. Of course, there’s one more reason 45 is so special to Cain: The next president will be number 45. And as Cain notes, “In 2013, my first year in the White House, Gloria and I will be celebrating our forty-fifth wedding anniversary.”
Cain’s Literary Background: This Is Herman Cain! is not Cain’s first book. He’s written four other books: Leadership Is Common Sense (1997), Speak as a Leader (1999), CEO of SELF: You’re in Charge (2001), They Think You’re Stupid: Why Democrats Lost Your Vote and What Republicans Must Do to Keep It (2005). (Considering the Democratic sweep in 2006, Cain may have not published that last tome at the most auspicious time.) He is also a poet under the name “The Hermanator.” When his first grandchild, Celena, was born in 1999, he was moved to write a four-stanza tribute entitled “Little Faces.” Sample stanza: “For a moment, I didn’t know who I was or where / I could only think of her and so happy to be there / Born into the world with all the other little faces / What will we do, to make it a better place?”
Jabs at Opponents: With the exception of Ron Paul, Cain says virtually nothing about his GOP rivals. He takes one crack at Mitt Romney, in the section on Hillarycare, writing, “Bill Clinton’s — and Hillary’s — health-care plan failed, only to be revived in somewhat different form in Massachusetts by Mitt Romney and in the White House by Barack Obama.” Cain, a former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, says he is open to auditing the Fed, but does not consider it a top issue. He complains about “Ron Paul, whose campaign sends one of its ‘Paulites’ everywhere I show up,” and asserts that the Paulites’ intent is “to agitate, not to educate.” Cain says he knows it’s a “deliberate strategy” because “how can a person randomly show up at a hundred events and ask the same stupid question to try to nail me on the Federal Reserve?”
Cain Believes in Happy Employees: Tired of surly DMV employees? Ready to lose it if one more postal worker glares at you? Well, get ready to pull the lever for President Cain. When managing a Burger King restaurant, Cain became frustrated when he wasn’t allowed to make any significant changes, including changing prices or increasing the amount spent on marketing. As he tried to figure out how he could increase profits, he noticed his Burger King cashiers were failing to radiate good cheer as they rang up customers. So he “established the BEAMER program, which taught our employees, mostly teenagers, how to make our patrons smile” by smiling themselves. It was a success: “Within three months of the program’s initiation, the sales trend was moving steadily higher.”
Faith Sustained Him Through Cancer Treatment: In 2006, Cain was diagnosed with stage-4 colon cancer — and given a 30 percent chance of survival. During that difficult time, he and his wife, Gloria, took consolation in their faith, relying on a couple of fortuitous signs, such as a medical staffer being named “Grace” and the fact that the incision into him during his operation to remove the cancer was made in the shape of a “J” — for “Jesus.” Speculating about why he was blessed with a full recovery, Cain wonders, “Did it have something to do with the Lord wanting me to survive so that I might help set this great nation of ours on its own path of recovery?”
CEO of Self: As a high-school student, Cain began to consider how he was responsible for his future success or failure, and the importance of making (and reaching) goals. Ultimately, he decided there were three steps necessary to become a “CEO of Self” that he calls “ROI.” The three steps are: “R: Remove barriers that prevent self-motivation to achieve goals; O: Obtain the right results by working on the right problems; I: Inspiration. Learn to inspire yourself.”
Why Cain Can Win in 2012: Cain is optimistic about his chances of winning the Republican primary and then the general election. (The last chapter of the book is him imagining what it will be like to be president.) He knows that not everyone agrees: National Review’s own Jonah Goldberg is singled out as an example of “media negativity” for saying in December that it was “hard to imagine” Cain being “more than an exciting also-ran.” And Cain acknowledges he has three weaknesses that could hinder his candidacy: that he doesn’t “claim to know everything,” he doesn’t “pander to groups,” and he is “terrible at political correctness.” But he thinks his strengths — his talent for speeches, his ability to come up with solutions, and his talent for hiring the right people — will prevail. Another advantage, to him, is that he likes “to smile, laugh, and have fun with people,” traits that he thinks “people can handle . . . in a presidential candidate.”
Ultimately, Cain views himself as “Barack Obama’s worst nightmare!” He muses that perhaps his parents should have made his middle name David because that Biblical figure “defeated a giant against the odds.” For Cain, that’s the goal in 2012.
— Katrina Trinko is an NRO reporter.
He also went to Morehouse College
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_cain
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As Sarah would say....
Herb did a great extended interview with Larry O'D. last night. several segments. Held up to the sean hannity - style questions and gave answers in complete sentences. He is starting to interest me. Not as much as Sarah does, but still...Herb did a great job; was invited back and he said he would be 'delighted' to return to his show. Looking forward to the Colber Repor and how Herb handles Stephen.
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1. Herman Cain is popular in the South. There's no question that just about any candidate from the GOP will carry most of the South...but Florida, Virginia and North Carolina are pivotal states. A Southerner on the ticket might solidify victories there as all three states were narrowly won by President Obama in 2008. If the GOP is to take back the White House, these three states are key.
2. Herman has practical experience. It's true that Herman has very little political experience, but Dwight Eisenhower didn't either. Cain's experience in the business world is unmatched by any candidate that has ever run for the presidency and practical knowledge is what is despirately needed to turn this country around right now, not lifetime politicians who are only looking to do what is politically right.
3. Herman is a strong advocate for the defense of our country. He has invoked President Reagan's philosophy of "Peace by Strength" but Herman has added "With Clarity" to his vision of foreign policy. He has also made it very clear that, as he told the Israeli Deputy Prime Minister, "If you mess with Israel, you mess with the United States." In a recent debate between all of the GOP candidates, only Cain tackled the question of Palestinian statehood and said,“If, in fact, it was clear to the Palestinians where the U.S. stood, they might have had second thoughts about trying to pull such a move without negotiating with Israel.” There is no doubt where this man stands, a statement that does not hold true for the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
4. Herman has an actual plan for economic growth. His 9-9-9 Plan puts a 9% flat tax on 9% tax on businesses, a 9% flat tax on income and a 9% national sales tax. This would eliminate the IRS while making businesses and individuals pay their fair share. It was also eliminate the death tax, payroll taxes and end nearly all deductions and special interest favors.
5. Herman is simply a likeable person. He talks common sense and plainly unlike a 'normal' politician. Ross Perot showed many years ago that the American people appreciated someone who would break things down to the lowest common denominator. Cain does just that and doesn't pull punches. He's taken a little heat for some of his comments, but one thing is for sure: When Herman speaks, it comes from his heart. If it were a prerequisite of our leaders not to make mistakes while making a speech, we certainly wouldn't have the 'human-gaffe machine' Joe Biden as Vice-President.
I did save Herman's most 'electable' quality for last....
6. Herman makes people feel proud to be an American again. If after you listen to a speech by Herman Cain and you don't feel the inspirational little hairs on the back of your neck stand at attention, you're in the advanced stages of rigor mortis. Much like President Reagan did to revive the country after the 'national malaise' of four years of Jimmy Carter, Herman Cain will make the United States respected again, not only globally but by our own people too. I can promise you that you will never see Herman Cain bowing to a foreign dignatary nor will you hear of him disrespecting the Israelis, while at the same time appeasing the Muslim community. (Please don't get the wrong idea...I know there are peaceful Muslims in the world. I'm writing about Muslims that live under Sharia law or terrorist states, not peaceful members of the world community.)
In short, there is no doubt in my mind that Herman Cain is electable and will be a very good President. The field of Republican candidates is one of the most diverse we have ever fielded: There is one female (Michele Bachmann), two members of the Mormon church (Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman), two Lutherans (Gary Johnson and Bachmann), two Catholics (Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum), one Methodist (Rick Perry), and two Baptists (Ron Paul and Herman Cain). With all of that diversity, there is only one Herman Cain. He's an American original who is certainly electable and should never be taken lightly.
wow..you haven't typed out a thread this long in many years....you must REALLY like this guy
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Poll: Cain Overtakes Romney With GOP Primary Voters
Newsmax ^ | 10/4/11 | David Patten
A Newsmax/InsiderAdvantage poll shows businessman and radio talk-host Herman Cain now leading former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney among likely GOP primary voters in the fight for the 2012 Republican nomination. The exclusive poll, taken in the past 24 hours, shows Cain vaulting Romney 26 percent to 24 percent. The poll has a margin of error of 4.4 percent. Several other polls show similar results, establishing Cain as the new grass-roots frontrunner deadlocked with Romney, the establishment Republican choice. A new CBS poll showed Cain and Romney deadlocked, with each candidate garnering 17 percent of the vote. And a Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday shows Romney leading Cain 22 percent to 17 percent — a statistical tie due to the poll’s margin of error.
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Cain wins the nod - i will definately do my legal work for his campaign for voter fraud, etc.
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Poll: Cain Overtakes Romney With GOP Primary Voters
Newsmax ^ | 10/4/11 | David Patten
Cain wins the nod - i will definately do my legal work for his campaign for voter fraud, etc.
LOL @ all the repubs who will jump on the Cain bandwagon today.
I plan on beating up Obama voters so they're in the hospital on election day. Sounds like the fastest way to send a message and really suppress some voters. Smack them with a sock full of "change"... that'd be a hoot, huh?
33, any criteria you can recommend I follow when picking random obama voters out of a crowd?
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I have been for Cain from Day 1 . I was the first to post on this site about Cain and think he is our best best to oust obama at this point.
I am already in a few facebook wars w some of my lib friends over Cain. they have nothing at all on Cain and are terrified of him.
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I have been for Cain from Day 1 . I was the first to post on this site about Cain and think he is our best best to oust obama at this point.
I'm talking about the "Me too!" getbiggers who see the polls and say "I'm starting to like this cain guy".
They ignored him making hugely correct points in the debates, completely startstruck with Perry's liberal douchebag ass.
Then, when Sean Hannity and others realized Perry was a rambling 90-Iq moron, then jumped on the CainTrain.
It's like these "repub" getbiggers want to be on the winning team so much - they just do what hannity tells them.
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props to you, 33... you never got on the perry bandwagon and you've been 100% Cain since the beginning.
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I'm talking about the "Me too!" getbiggers who see the polls and say "I'm starting to like this cain guy".
They ignored him making hugely correct points in the debates, completely startstruck with Perry's liberal douchebag ass.
Then, when Sean Hannity and others realized Perry was a rambling 90-Iq moron, then jumped on the CainTrain.
It's like these "repub" getbiggers want to be on the winning team so much - they just do what hannity tells them.
Well, go ask them about it.
Cain is a math guy, a business man, self starter, proven track record of success, worked for the navy for 4 years in ballistics, is very likable, is mature, and is the perfect guy to get away from the teflon bs of romney and perry.
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props to you, 33... you never got on the perry bandwagon and you've been 100% Cain since the beginning.
Perry, even more than romney, scares the shit out of me.
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Perry, even more than romney, scares the shit out of me.
agreed. romney will be vanilla and predictable and will see some progress, will be bush1, awkward and lame but a safe president.
Perry? Loose cannon. Lots of cases of him taking the $. That whole HPV thing got his chief of staff rich, and that dude is running Perry's PAC now.
Perry might just open the border - with the dems blessing - knowing the repubs will NOT vote against it and lose the hispanic base. It's possible. he defends DREAM, staring at tea party voters in the eye.
you know the best thing about cain, 33?
He's NOT one of those guys that will be exposed as a moron when he has to think on his feet. Perry was. bachmann was. Trump definitely was. The minute they leave script, they turn into 90 IQ babbling fools.
Not Cain. Not him. He's a brilliant man.
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After seeing Cain slice and dice Bubba like a fillet in 94' - Cain is no ones fool at all.
Right now as of today - he is my top pick, Paul No. 2. Biggest difference is actual private sector experience.
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Right now as of today - he is my top pick, Paul No. 2. Biggest difference is actual private sector experience.
BUT Ron paul is very good at telling the govt ot get the hell outta the way and let business be business.
Even if he doesn't have that expeirnece, he's spent 3 decades being the top voice on business right/deregulation.
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BUT Ron paul is very good at telling the govt ot get the hell outta the way and let business be business.
Even if he doesn't have that expeirnece, he's spent 3 decades being the top voice on business right/deregulation.
not disagreeing at all - but being POTUS - especially after reading Confidence Men, requires someone w mangerial expertise.
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Why Is Herman Cain Showing Strength?
http://annem040359.wordpress.com/ ^ | October 5,2011 | annem040359
Posted on October 5, 2011 1:09:40 PM EDT by Biggirl
In over the last week, I have been taking a close interest in Herman Cain. Since his surprise win in the Florida Straw Poll nearly two weeks ago even the old MSM is taking interest as well.
What is it that makes Mr. Cain tick? Is it that he is a voice not only of REASON, offering ideas on what CAN BE DONE to bring life back into the American economy, but also by being a VOICE OF POSITIVE HOPE AND THINKING.
Which gives CITIZENS IN THE UNITED STATES who have been on the receiving end of a very difficult economy and in turn using what President Barack Hussein Obama, to play on a few words, “having skin in the game.” That would include people who do not pay into income tax at all right now. This would not only produce a much more fair and balanced level for economic growth and freedom for EVERYONE, but be the foundation for an economic renewed America.
But also Mr. Cain serves as a REMINDER that people in the United States is growing FED-UP with the BUSINESS AS USUAL run around in Washington D.C.
Mr. Cain is also a fruitful result of the efforts by members of the TEA PARTY MOVEMENT. A movement that is from the grassroots level since 2009 and because of the behind-the-scenes-efforts which has resulted in the election of the conservative GOP Republicans in November of 2010 and now is working to “make a difference” come November of 2012 USA Presidential elections.
Look for more interviews and information to come out from Mr. Cain in a direct manner and from those who work with him.
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Perry, even more than romney, scares the shit out of me.
Perry is a good candidate
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Cain: Move ‘Occupy Wall Street’ to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
CNSNews ^
Posted on October 8, 2011 1:49:18 PM EDT by Sub-Driver
Cain: Move ‘Occupy Wall Street’ to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue By Elizabeth Harrington October 7, 2011
(CNSNews.com) - Republican presidential nominee candidate Herman Cain called for the Occupy Wall Street protestors to relocate to the White House, in remarks he made Friday at the Family Research Council’s annual Values Voter Summit, in Washington, D.C.
“When a reporter asked me the other day, well, what do you think about those demonstrations up on Wall Street, I said, first of all, Wall Street didn’t write these failed economic policies -- the White House did,” said Cain.
He then added, “Why don’t you move the demonstrations to the White House?”
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Zogby Poll: Cain Up 20% on GOP Field, Tops Obama
JIM TURNER'S BLOG | Posted: October 7, 2011
Businessman and author Herman Cain has opened a 20-point lead over the rest of the Republican field and he would be the only GOP candidate to defeat President Obama if the election were held today, according to the latest IBOPE Zogby interactive poll.
The numbers offer a vastly different snapshot from other polls released this week.
A poll by ABC puts Romney ahead of Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Cain, while CBS has Romney in a tie with Cain. A Quinnipiac poll placed Romney at 22 percent, followed by Cain and Perry. Others in the field were in single digits.
“Cain’s share of the GOP primary has jumped 10 percentage points since Sept. 26 and is now at 38 percent,” a release from Zogby stated for its online survey of likely Republican voters taken between Oct. 3-5.
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney stood in second at 18 percent. Texas Gov. Rick Perry and U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, each had 12 percent.
The poll also asked about individual match-ups between Obama and three of the four atop the poll.
Cain scored 2 percentage points ahead of Obama, while Romney was down 1 point and Perry 5 to the president.
The president's disapproval rating grew from 57 percent to 59 percent, while his approval rating dipped from 42 percent to 41 percent, between Sept. 26 and the October survey.
http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/blog/cain-20-gop-field-2-obama-zogby-poll
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nice!
Cain scored 2 percentage points ahead of Obama, while Romney was down 1 point and Perry 5 to the president.
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Perry is a good candidate
and the pastor of First Babtist Church, Dallas. agrees.
He did, however, call Mitt a 'moral man'....just a part of a cult.
this is what is fun about the GOP - the various groups infighting. :D
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All this is for not.......
Herman Cain....won't win the nomination, not enough money.
Mitt Romney...already being attacked for being a Mormon by Christian Conservatives. Will lose the Bible Belt on Election Day
Rick Perry....way too many skeletons...N i g g e r h e a d Lodge doesn't help much
Bachman.....complete clusterfuck
Ron Paul....could actually have a chance but the media just keeps ignoring him
They simply need to realize that Mitt Romney is going to win and not beat the hell out of him to where he can't effectively run a campaign. Obama couldn't have asked for a better set of contenders because they all are just all getting banged up royally.
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and the pastor of First Babtist Church, Dallas. agrees.
He did, however, call Mitt a 'moral man'....just a part of a cult.
this is what is fun about the GOP - the various groups infighting. :D
agreed ;)
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That's some serious movement.
Huntsman has jumped from 1 to 2 percent. He should quit. I heard he was almost not invited to the next debate.
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that huntsman handshake with cain.... smart move by huntsmann...
he wasn't running for prez. He was running for veep!
He would be a very safe pick for Cain, to be honest. And given Cain's extreme battles with cancer and the stresses of office, an 8 year stretch with him might be a strech. He'll be 66 when he takes office? 67?
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that huntsman handshake with cain.... smart move by huntsmann...
he wasn't running for prez. He was running for veep!
He would be a very safe pick for Cain, to be honest. And given Cain's extreme battles with cancer and the stresses of office, an 8 year stretch with him might be a strech. He'll be 66 when he takes office? 67?
I hope they do pick Cain because it would show the continuing hypocrisy of conservatives.....they got on Obama because they said he had no experience whatsoever..and therefore wasn't qualified....Cain has even less qualifications.....I guarantee you that you will never hear the "inexperienced, unqualified " card played again if Cain is the nominee....the Repubs will conveniently forget all about that
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Thats the way it is 90% of peoples opinions is garbage based on their bias
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I hope they do pick Cain because it would show the continuing hypocrisy of conservatives.....they got on Obama because they said he had no experience whatsoever..and therefore wasn't qualified....Cain has even less qualifications.....I guarantee you that you will never hear the "inexperienced, unqualified " card played again if Cain is the nominee....the Repubs will conveniently forget all about that
PLEASE!!! Liberals said that about Palin. Yet, as Newt pointed out to an MSNBC hack, Palin was a mayor and governor with executive experience. Obama had none of the above.
Cain has executive experience and, unlike Obama, he knows how to run a business.
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PLEASE!!! Liberals said that about Palin. Yet, as Newt pointed out to an MSNBC hack, Palin was a mayor and governor with executive experience. Obama had none of the above.
Cain has executive experience and, unlike Obama, he knows how to run a business.
One of those rabble rousers at OWS has more exec experience than obama.
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All this is for not.......
Herman Cain....won't win the nomination, not enough money.
Mitt Romney...already being attacked for being a Mormon by Christian Conservatives. Will lose the Bible Belt on Election Day
Rick Perry....way too many skeletons...N i g g e r h e a d Lodge doesn't help much
Bachman.....complete clusterfuck
Ron Paul....could actually have a chance but the media just keeps ignoring him
They simply need to realize that Mitt Romney is going to win and not beat the hell out of him to where he can't effectively run a campaign. Obama couldn't have asked for a better set of contenders because they all are just all getting banged up royally.
First, the word is "naught", as in all for naught.
Second, Romney ain't a lock for the nomination. If he wins it, he wins it. But, the GOP establishment doesn't get to just hand it to him.
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PLEASE!!! Liberals said that about Palin. Yet, as Newt pointed out to an MSNBC hack, Palin was a mayor and governor with executive experience. Obama had none of the above.
Cain has executive experience and, unlike Obama, he knows how to run a business.
Agree. Cain has a ton of experience. Obama had none. (None that mattered.)
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Belafonte Attacks Cain: 'A Bad Apple' 'So Denied Intelligence'
NewsBusters ^ | 11 Oct 2011 | Noel Sheppard
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:51:00 AM by mandaladon
In a "Joy Behar Show" segment scheduled to be aired on HLN Friday, singer Harry Belafonte attacked Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain in potentially the most disgraceful manner of any media member to date.
While his host and others on the set laughed, Belafonte called Cain "a bad apple" that was "so denied intelligence...I don’t think prayers were created for him" (video follows with transcript and commentary):
JOY BEHAR, HOST: Now, let me interrupt you for a second, because now you have someone like Herman Cain.
HARRY BELAFONTE: Who?
BEHAR: Herman Cain?
BELAFONTE: Herman Cain?
BEHAR: You know who he is. [Laughs] And he doesn’t believe that racism holds anyone back in any way now. I mean, you know, what do you think about that statement?
BELAFONTE: Well, you know, it’s very hard to comment on somebody who is so denied intelligence…
[LAUGHTER FROM BEHAR AND OTHERS IN THE STUDIO]
BELAFONTE: … and certainly someone who is as denied a view of history such as he reveals. He knows very little. Because he happened to have had good fortune hit him, because he happened to have had a moment when he broke through, the moment someone blinked, does not make him the authority on the plight of people of color. […]
BELAFONTE: I just want to make this observation about Herman Cain. The Republican Party, the Tea Party, all those forces to the extreme right have consistently tried to come up with representation for what they call black, what they call the real negroes, and try to push these images as the kinds of voices that America should be living through. So we got Condoleezza Rice, we got Colin Powell. I know they’re heroes for some people, but for a lot of us they’re not.
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PLEASE!!! Liberals said that about Palin. Yet, as Newt pointed out to an MSNBC hack, Palin was a mayor and governor with executive experience. Obama had none of the above.
Cain has executive experience and, unlike Obama, he knows how to run a business.
oh brother...Obama was a senator...I guess that counts for nothing huh?
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oh brother...Obama was a senator...I guess that counts for nothing huh?
He was part time senator for 146 days you far leftist hairy armpit loving nut!
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Agree. Cain has a ton of experience. Obama had none. (None that mattered.)
wow..EPIC hypocrisy
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oh brother...Obama was a senator...I guess that counts for nothing huh?
Well since he spent all his time as the Junior Senator from Illinois running for POTUS, no it doesn't
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Well since he spent all his time as the Junior Senator from Illinois running for POTUS, no it doesn't
again hypocrisy on an epic level.....at least Obama was in government....Cain was not and has no government experience...but again..you guys just play with the truth and pick and choose what you want to accept as reality..which is why debate on these boards are useless
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again hypocrisy on an epic level.....at least Obama was in government....Cain was not and has no government experience...but again..you guys just play with the truth and pick and choose what you want to accept as reality..which is why debate on these boards are useless
Yeah - Maobama's experience in govt really served him well. ::)
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again hypocrisy on an epic level.....at least Obama was in government....Cain was not and has no government experience...but again..you guys just play with the truth and pick and choose what you want to accept as reality..which is why debate on these boards are useless
Really, so what if Obama was in government, is that supposed to mean something? He was in the IL state senate also look at the fucking mess the state is in. As a matter of fact look at the country as a whole and see what a great job all these experienced politicians are doing.
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Really, so what if Obama was in government, is that supposed to mean something? He was in the IL state senate also look at the fucking mess the state is in. As a matter of fact look at the country as a whole and see what a great job all these experienced politicians are doing.
Obama should be Foreign Secretary instead of pres he does a good job fighting AQ but not on the economy :)
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Really, so what if Obama was in government, is that supposed to mean something? He was in the IL state senate also look at the fucking mess the state is in. As a matter of fact look at the country as a whole and see what a great job all these experienced politicians are doing.
oh now its so what when I point out that Obama has more experience than Cain....and instead of acknowledging this and moving on you continue to downplay that Cain has no experience..even less than Obama had.....but all of a sudden this makes Cain an amazing and suitable candidate in your eyes...
I'm not putting down Cain and I actually may vote for him..just pointing out the hypocrisy..thats all
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oh now its so what when I point out that Obama has more experience than Cain....and instead of acknowledging this and moving on you continue to downplay that Cain has no experience..even less than Obama had.....but all of a sudden this makes Cain an amazing and suitable candidate in your eyes...
I'm not putting down Cain and I actually may vote for him..just pointing out the hypocrisy..thats all
Where exactly is the hypocrisy?
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oh now its so what when I point out that Obama has more experience than Cain....and instead of acknowledging this and moving on you continue to downplay that Cain has no experience..even less than Obama had.....but all of a sudden this makes Cain an amazing and suitable candidate in your eyes...
I'm not putting down Cain and I actually may vote for him..just pointing out the hypocrisy..thats all
So Cain has less experience in "politics" than Obama, but has 10 life times more experience than Obama in the real world.
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Where exactly is the hypocrisy?
the hypocrisy lies in the right wingers who still point out that Obama had no experience and wasn't ready for the job and put down his experience as a senator....yet these same people tout Cain who has even less experience in government.....running the gov't isn't like running a company where every one just does a you say..its entirely different//
and when this hypocrisy is pointed out they say stuff like "well, Cain has experience running a business"
again.just pointing out the hypocrisy is all
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So Cain has less experience in "politics" than Obama, but has 10 life times more experience than Obama in the real world.
"experience" is relative my friend
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the hypocrisy lies in the right wingers who still point out that Obama had no experience and wasn't ready for the job and put down his experience as a senator....yet these same people tout Cain who has even less experience in government.....running the gov't isn't like running a company where every one just does a you say..its entirely different//
and when this hypocrisy is pointed out they say stuff like "well, Cain has experience running a business"
again.just pointing out the hypocrisy is all
Andre - in 2004 obama said he was not qualified and 146 days later in the Senate he declared as a candidate. Can you tell me what he did in those 146 days to go from self admittedely being unqualified to qualified?
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"experience" is relative my friend
Relative to what?
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Relative to what?
Relative to who is defining it
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Andre - in 2004 obama said he was not qualified and 146 days later in the Senate he declared as a candidate. Can you tell me what he did in those 146 days to go from self admittedely being unqualified to qualified?
he saw an opportunity.....like most politicians :)
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He was part time senator for 146 days you far leftist hairy armpit loving nut!
so, what's your beef with armpits? at last count, you have two of them!
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Herman Cain: The Goal Of Liberals Is To Economically Destroy The United States
Herman Cain ^ | 10-16-11 | Josh Feldman
Posted on October 16, 2011 10:45:08 PM EDT by Mozilla
On Meet the Press today, Herman Cain explained to David Gregory why he believes that liberals in the United States are invested in seeing the country fail and would do anything to see its destruction.
Cain argued that if the economic situation was to get any worse, “it would destroy our economic capability,” and from that the United States would have to look at making cuts in defense spending, which Cain seemed to imply were not on the table for him. Gregory asked the candidate to clarify if he truly meant liberals would be implicit in the destruction of America, rather than just pure mismanagement. Cain continue to stick by his comments, saying, “They do not believe in a stronger America, in my opinion.”
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Herman Cain vs. The Interloper
Libertarian Republican ^ | 10/16/11 | Cliff Thies
Posted on October 16, 2011 9:58:54 AM EDT by Redmen4ever
1.His great grandparents were slaves - His great grandparents were slave-owners
2.His father was a chauffeur - His father employed a chauffeur
3.Denied entrance to his first-choice college because of the color of his skin - Granted entrance to the college of his mentor's choice because of the color of his skin
4.Rocket Scientist, mathematician and all-around nerd - Dope fiend slacker
5.He worked off his college loans by working on ballistics for the U.S. Navy - He worked off his college loans suing banks for not making mortgage loans
6.Gospel singer and assistant pastor of a Baptist church rooted in the American south - Member of a church he might not have ever attended rooted in Marxism
7.He wrote five books - He had one book written for him
8.Elected by his fellow restaurant chain owners to represent their industry in Washington - Elected a state Senator where he voted "present" on anything controversial during the two years he was in that office
9.Elected Chairman of the Board of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank - Elected to the U.S. Senate where he was absent most of the two years he was in that office
10.He made bankrupt companies profitable - He bankrupted an entire country
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trump has a ton of experience running huge businesses, but he was completely clueless on nearly every issue.
it'll be interesting to hear cain on legislative issues... it's tough to FAKE things like that. You can bullshit about the economy, how your theories can fix everything. But understanding and working within the lawmaking process - THAT is what a president does. Lawyers are prepared for it. Marketing/org mgmt gurus like trump and cain aren't.
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What is with you 333386. You constantly bring up support for Cain while at the same time posting that people to need to read Creature from Jekyll Isand. It makes no sense as Cain has constantly defended what you attacked. Even Schiff says his 999 plan is garbage, are you going to contradict yourself again by ignoring another person you constantly quote as understanding what the economy needs? You are all over the map buddy.
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What is with you 333386. You constantly bring up support for Cain while at the same time posting that people to need to read Creature from Jekyll Isand. It makes no sense as Cain has constantly defended what you attacked. Even Schiff says his 999 plan is garbage, are you going to contradict yourself again by ignoring another person you constantly quote as understanding what the economy needs? You are all over the map buddy.
I am for A B O and whoever can beat Obama. I am going to vote for RP in the primary, and whoever in the general vs Obama
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I am for A B O and whoever can beat Obama. I am going to vote for RP in the primary, and whoever in the general vs Obama
Lmao.. Meet the scapegoat.
That was the thinking at the end of the Bush Era.
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Lmao.. Meet the scapegoat.
That was the thinking at the end of the Bush Era.
So? Tell me one reason for Obama to get a second term and what he will do with it with a GOP house, and more likely Senate too?
Here is the simple math you can't refute no matter how hard you try:
- If Obama gets a second term, there is a 100% he will fuck us. There is 100% chance we will have more corruption, scandal, wasteful spending, quixotic green bs, etc.
- If ANYONE, be it Zodiak Killer, Hillside Stangler, Madoff, OJ, etc gets elected - they start out with a 50 - 50 chance of fucking us. Sure the likelihood may be more than that - say 70-80% chance. That gives us a 20-30% chance of improvement over Obama.
Given what a complete disaster Obama Admn has been economically, financially, monetarily, morally, ethics wise, etc, that 2030 % chance is well worth it.
And as far as 2008 - I don't remember GWB on the ballot. Maybe you did, but most normal people did not see his name on the ballot.
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So? Tell me one reason for Obama to get a second term and what he will do with it with a GOP house, and more likely Senate too?
Here is the simple math you can't refute no matter how hard you try:
- If Obama gets a second term, there is a 100% he will fuck us. There is 100% chance we will have more corruption, scandal, wasteful spending, quixotic green bs, etc.
- If ANYONE, be it Zodiak Killer, Hillside Stangler, Madoff, OJ, etc gets elected - they start out with a 50 - 50 chance of fucking us. Sure the likelihood may be more than that - say 70-80% chance. That gives us a 20-30% chance of improvement over Obama.
Given what a complete disaster Obama Admn has been economically, financially, monetarily, morally, ethics wise, etc, that 2030 % chance is well worth it.
And as far as 2008 - I don't remember GWB on the ballot. Maybe you did, but most normal people did not see his name on the ballot.
First off shitstain, for the 10000000th time. Im not voting for Obama. Either Ron Paul or Ralph Nader, if he runs again. But i know better than to say "anyone but this guy" shit... Thats just dumb...but no one can have a logical conversation with you, because you will always try to muddy up the discussion or get real sarcastic and use a bunch of hyperbole... Shit gets boring and is a drain to us Adults.
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Again - I asked you - why should obama get a second term when its a mathmatical reality that he will 100% screw us?
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Again - I asked you - why should obama get a second term when its a mathmatical reality that he will 100% screw us?
i swear you cant read... I never said he should get a second term.. Dude seriously... read the post first.. that was just a dumb ass response from you
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i swear you cant read... I never said he should get a second term.. Dude seriously... read the post first.. that was just a dumb ass response from you
If its Cain v obama - who you voting for?
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/2012_presidential_matchups
Booom! ! ! !
240 , Straw, Andre, Benny - aint going to like this.
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If its Cain v obama - who you voting for?
Cain.. He went to my school.
Does he sound more and more like a typical politician... yes
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Cain.. He went to my school.
Does he sound more and more like a typical politician... yes
I think his years as a CEO was training for him how to handle stuff.
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Poll Watch: InsiderAdvantage 2012 Iowa Caucus Poll (Hermanator Landslide Alert!)
www.race42012.com
10.17.2011 | Staff
InsiderAdvantage/Iowa Caucus Poll
•Herman Cain 26%
•Mitt Romney 18%
•Newt Gingrich 12%
•Michele Bachmann 11%
•Ron Paul 10%
•Rick Perry 6%
•Jon Huntsman 1%
•Someone else 3%
•Undecided 13%
Conducted Oct. 16 among 422 likely voters, for a margin of error of plus or minus 5 percent. Data have been weighted for age, race, gender, and political affiliation.
Inside the numbers:
Analysis by InsiderAdvantage CEO Matt Towery: “ “This isn’t a surprise, given that Iowa is conservative and Cain has worked the state hard. While he is tied with Romney with women, Cain leads substantially among men. He also does better among younger voters.
“The other point of interest is that the Iowa poll makes two of four states polled in which Gingrich is in third place. If Cain for any reason were to implode, the only “soldier left standing” to challenge Romney would appear to be Gingrich. And based on all four of these surveys, the Perry campaign appears in need of a miracle.”
Note: InsiderAdvantage successfully polled the winners of the Iowa caucus in 2004 and 2008.
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IBOPE Zogby Poll (Cain 45%, Romney 21%, Rick Perry 7%, Bachmann, 1%)
Zogby ^ | 10/17/11 | Corry Schiermeyer
Obama Approval 43% & 39% Say He Deserves 2nd Term
UTICA, NY--Herman Cain is now the runaway leader among Republican presidential primary voters with 45%, more than twice that of second-place Mitt Romney (21%). Rick Perry, who led with 41% in late August, has fallen to 7%, and Michele Bachmann, who led in June and July, now gets just 1%.
President Barack Obama's approval rating among all voters is 43%, and the percentage saying he deserves re-election is 39%.
These results are from an IBOPE Zogby interactive poll conducted from Oct. 11-14.
Cain appears to have won support of voters who previously supported Perry or Bachmann. Romney's 21% is the highest we have shown for him in match-ups with the current field of announced candidates.
Republican Candidates (asked only of the party's primary voters)
If the Republican primary for president were held today, for whom would you vote?
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http://www.zogby.com/news/2011/10/17/ibope-zogby-poll-cain-continues-pull-away-perry-bachmann-fading
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I wonder if he bussed in the people who voted for him? :)
Cain wins big in South Carolina tea party straw poll
Posted by
CNN Political Correspondent Jim Acosta
Las Vegas, Nevada (CNN) - Surging Republican presidential contender Herman Cain has picked up another morale booster in the race for the GOP nomination.
The conservative businessman decisively won a tea party straw poll held in Columbia, South Carolina, Saturday afternoon.
Cain captured an eye-popping 55% of the vote. His closest challenger, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, picked up 14.5%. Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann garnered 8% to come in third.
The two candidates with the most money in their campaign bank accounts, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Texas Gov. Rick Perry, nearly finished at the back of the pack with 3% and 2% respectively. Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman was last with 1%.
“Very interesting results. Cain is on fire here in S.C. I know it's just a snapshot. But I find these numbers interesting among our crowd,” FreedomWorks organizer Brendan Steinhauser told CNN.
Two hundred conservative activists in 25 separate tea party groups participated in the non-binding voting contest.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/15/cain-wins-big-in-south-carolina-tea-party-straw-poll/
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I wonder if he bussed in the people who voted for him? :)
Cain wins big in South Carolina tea party straw poll
Posted by
CNN Political Correspondent Jim Acosta
Las Vegas, Nevada (CNN) - Surging Republican presidential contender Herman Cain has picked up another morale booster in the race for the GOP nomination.
The conservative businessman decisively won a tea party straw poll held in Columbia, South Carolina, Saturday afternoon.
Cain captured an eye-popping 55% of the vote. His closest challenger, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, picked up 14.5%. Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann garnered 8% to come in third.
The two candidates with the most money in their campaign bank accounts, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Texas Gov. Rick Perry, nearly finished at the back of the pack with 3% and 2% respectively. Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman was last with 1%.
“Very interesting results. Cain is on fire here in S.C. I know it's just a snapshot. But I find these numbers interesting among our crowd,” FreedomWorks organizer Brendan Steinhauser told CNN.
Two hundred conservative activists in 25 separate tea party groups participated in the non-binding voting contest.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/15/cain-wins-big-in-south-carolina-tea-party-straw-poll/
200 people voted and Ron Paul didnt even make a showing at a "tea Party" straw poll. Lol what a joke this movement has become. Clueless.
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/2012_presidential_matchups
Booom! ! ! !
240 , Straw, Andre, Benny - aint going to like this.
make me a deal. When i vote for hermann cain in the general (or romney, probably more likely)...
you have to go down to the corner and get bukkaked by 5 illegals. and post pics.
you deserve it for talking all that shit about me kneepadding - i trash his ass frequently.
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make me a deal. When i vote for hermann cain in the general (or romney, probably more likely)...
you have to go down to the corner and get bukkaked by 5 illegals. and post pics.
you deserve it for talking all that shit about me kneepadding - i trash his ass frequently.
Is he giving or receiving the bukkake? Can I take the bet if the illegals are female Asian masseuses?
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Is he giving or receiving the bukkake? Can I take the bet if the illegals are female Asian masseuses?
either / or.
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;)
Funny. :)
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200 people voted and Ron Paul didnt even make a showing at a "tea Party" straw poll. Lol what a joke this movement has become. Clueless.
Maybe he didn't make a showing because he didn't buss his supporters in?
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Ohio poll: Cain takes lead in GOP presidential race (Cain 34 Romney 19)
Dayton Daily News ^ | 10/18/11 | William Hershey
Cain, former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, leads former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, 34-19 percent in the poll. Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who led in an August poll, fell to sixth place with 5 percent support.
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Ohio poll: Cain takes lead in GOP presidential race (Cain 34 Romney 19)
Dayton Daily News ^ | 10/18/11 | William Hershey
Cain, former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, leads former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, 34-19 percent in the poll. Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who led in an August poll, fell to sixth place with 5 percent support.
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He "misspoke" again at the debate tonight regarding the hostage question. Man, this guy is full of flip-flops and being "misquoted" or misspeaking.
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He "misspoke" again at the debate tonight regarding the hostage question. Man, this guy is full of flip-flops and being "misquoted" or misspeaking.
Not a good performance tonight for sure. I thought newt and bachmann were strong. I also like Paul jabbing at Rick.
But Newt was great tonight again.
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Not a good performance tonight for sure. I thought newt and bachmann were strong. I also like Paul jabbing at Rick.
But Newt was great tonight again.
"apples and oranges", more like lots of bullshit. Romney exposed Cains plan pretty well. Lots of over all bitching tonight though, woah.
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cain is an emotional man. that works against him. he's so EAGER to do a good job that he keeps jumping INTO shit.
He volunteered "20 foot electrified wall... taht can keeeel you!". He didn't need to say that.
He was so eager to agree with israel that he jumped into "i'd close gitmo for 1 soldier!"
that would do nothing but encourage kidnapping of US soldiers :(
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cain is an emotional man. that works against him. he's so EAGER to do a good job that he keeps jumping INTO shit.
He volunteered "20 foot electrified wall... taht can keeeel you!". He didn't need to say that.
He was so eager to agree with israel that he jumped into "i'd close gitmo for 1 soldier!"
that would do nothing but encourage kidnapping of US soldiers :(
I agree.
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newt is really kicking ass. I think vs Obama he would send MaoBama into tears.
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newt is really kicking ass. I think vs Obama he would send MaoBama into tears.
Newt really does speak well, no doubt about it.
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Newt really does speak well, no doubt about it.
I'm still voting for RP in the primary, but Newt really is a bad ass. just a guess, I wonder who rp would pick as a running mate if he won?
someone like Newt or bachmann would be good.
Maybe Rand? hat would be fucking amazing! ron and rand!
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What was Herman Cain like as CEO?
CBS News ^ | October 21, 2011 | Laura Strickler
Herman Cain's former employees at Godfather's Pizza recall him as an energetic and dynamic leader. They say he listened to new ideas and went out of his way to remember everyone's name and wanted his team to do the same.
Four times a year, Godfather's executives would hold corporate meetings with all 300 employees in the company's auditorium in its Omaha headquarters. According to two former employees, at each meeting, Cain would pick one executive at random and call them onto the stage to identify each employee by name. If the executive missed any names, they would be required to take that person to lunch.
Cain himself took the "employee of the quarter" to lunch personally and was known for cheerleading his staff. One former employee, Jolene Jeffries, said she can't recall ever seeing Cain angry. She said, instead, he would rally employees by saying things like, "We can do better than this." One employee told CBS News he recalled a day when he and his colleagues went into Cain's office expecting a stern talking to, only to be shocked when he surprised them with bonus checks.
Employees concede that Cain downsized Godfather's after the company was bought from Pillsbury in the mid 1980's but one said, "It was mostly through attrition." One employee said stores were also closed to "stop the bleeding" so the company could become more profitable.
During the downsizing, one employee surprised Cain by offering to eliminate his own job. Bruce Newharth who is now the President and COO of Arrow Stagelines in Norfolk, Nebraska says he helped Cain develop his first "100 day strategy" to turn the company around after it was bought from Pillsbury.
Newharth, who worked as the head of Godfather's training at the time, said when he looked at the restructuring that needed to happen he concluded that his own job was no longer necessary. He says he presented this to Cain saying this move would be "true to Godfather's and to himself". Weeks later Newharth was downsized but he says Cain helped him land a job in worldwide training at Burger King.
Former employees say Cain would regularly solicit and implement ideas from junior employees, even teenagers who worked at the chain's stores.
In the mid 1990's Cain was personally featured in Godfather's TV ads and as a result the company received threatening racist phone calls directed at Cain from the Pacific Northwest according to two former employees. One employee who golfed regularly with Cain, told CBS News that the CEO also faced threats in the South. Because of this, the employee said, Cain would fly from city to city instead of driving due to safety concerns. Former employees said Cain appeared to easily shake off the threats. A campaign spokesman did not respond to a request for comment for this story.
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What was Herman Cain like as CEO?
CBS News ^ | October 21, 2011 | Laura Strickler
Herman Cain's former employees at Godfather's Pizza recall him as an energetic and dynamic leader. They say he listened to new ideas and went out of his way to remember everyone's name and wanted his team to do the same.
Four times a year, Godfather's executives would hold corporate meetings with all 300 employees in the company's auditorium in its Omaha headquarters. According to two former employees, at each meeting, Cain would pick one executive at random and call them onto the stage to identify each employee by name. If the executive missed any names, they would be required to take that person to lunch.
Cain himself took the "employee of the quarter" to lunch personally and was known for cheerleading his staff. One former employee, Jolene Jeffries, said she can't recall ever seeing Cain angry. She said, instead, he would rally employees by saying things like, "We can do better than this." One employee told CBS News he recalled a day when he and his colleagues went into Cain's office expecting a stern talking to, only to be shocked when he surprised them with bonus checks.
Employees concede that Cain downsized Godfather's after the company was bought from Pillsbury in the mid 1980's but one said, "It was mostly through attrition." One employee said stores were also closed to "stop the bleeding" so the company could become more profitable.
During the downsizing, one employee surprised Cain by offering to eliminate his own job. Bruce Newharth who is now the President and COO of Arrow Stagelines in Norfolk, Nebraska says he helped Cain develop his first "100 day strategy" to turn the company around after it was bought from Pillsbury.
Newharth, who worked as the head of Godfather's training at the time, said when he looked at the restructuring that needed to happen he concluded that his own job was no longer necessary. He says he presented this to Cain saying this move would be "true to Godfather's and to himself". Weeks later Newharth was downsized but he says Cain helped him land a job in worldwide training at Burger King.
Former employees say Cain would regularly solicit and implement ideas from junior employees, even teenagers who worked at the chain's stores.
In the mid 1990's Cain was personally featured in Godfather's TV ads and as a result the company received threatening racist phone calls directed at Cain from the Pacific Northwest according to two former employees. One employee who golfed regularly with Cain, told CBS News that the CEO also faced threats in the South. Because of this, the employee said, Cain would fly from city to city instead of driving due to safety concerns. Former employees said Cain appeared to easily shake off the threats. A campaign spokesman did not respond to a request for comment for this story.
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you sold me on Herb; wish he'd take over Dominos.
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newt is really kicking ass. I think vs Obama he would send MaoBama into tears.
Newt needs to pay his bills first
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Poll: Cain on top when it comes to dinner
Posted by
CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser
Washington (CNN) – Here's something to munch on.
A new national poll indicates that Herman Cain comes out on top among the major GOP presidential candidates when Republican voters are asked which White House hopeful they would most like to have join them for dinner.
According to the Clarus poll released Tuesday, 29% of self-described registered Republicans say they would like to dine with Cain, the businessman, former Godfather's Pizza CEO and radio talk show host, followed by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 22%, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney at 17% and all the other candidates in single digits.
"This result is a good indication of Cain's personal likeability," said Ron Faucheux, president and chief analyst of Clarus Research Group. "Although it may just be an indication that Americans like pizza."
The poll was conducted by the Clarus Research Group (which describes itself as nonpartisan) from Oct. 19-21, with 400 self described Republican registered voters questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 5.25 percentage points.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/25/poll-cain-on-top-when-it-comes-to-dinner/
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Who Is Herman Cain's Wife?
The Atlantic ^ | 10/31/11 | Chris Good
Posted on October 31, 2011 10:22:53 PM EDT by justsaynomore
Described as a "very private person," the all-but-invisible wife of the candidate will soon speak to the media for the first time
Cain was asked about his wife and family, who have not campaigned with him actively. Cain's response: His wife will soon give an exclusive interview, but he has intentionally shielded her and their two children from the limelight of the presidential campaign. "You will meet my wife publicly in an exclusive interview that we are currently planning and anticipating, but you won't see my family out on the campaign trail on a day-to-day basis," Cain said. "My wife represents that calm and tranquility that I look forward to seeing when I get home.
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Who Is Herman Cain's Wife?
The Atlantic ^ | 10/31/11 | Chris Good
Posted on October 31, 2011 10:22:53 PM EDT by justsaynomore
Described as a "very private person," the all-but-invisible wife of the candidate will soon speak to the media for the first time
Cain was asked about his wife and family, who have not campaigned with him actively. Cain's response: His wife will soon give an exclusive interview, but he has intentionally shielded her and their two children from the limelight of the presidential campaign. "You will meet my wife publicly in an exclusive interview that we are currently planning and anticipating, but you won't see my family out on the campaign trail on a day-to-day basis," Cain said. "My wife represents that calm and tranquility that I look forward to seeing when I get home.
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I'm sure we'll read about some tabloid trash involving his wife in the near future.
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I'm sure we'll read about some tabloid trash involving his wife in the near future.
Yeah, she probably got a no show job for 300k a year while trashing her country. Oh wait.
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Yeah, she probably got a no show job for 300k a year while trashing her country. Oh wait.
I'm sure she has blonde hair, blue eyes and mistakenly married Herman when he was carrying her bags to a limousine belonging to her plantation owning father.
If not, I'm sure the MSM will try to trash their marriage with some other absurdly stupid and false narrative.
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I'm sure we'll read about some tabloid trash involving his wife in the near future.
oh goody! will be checking the supermarket daily!
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Cain lied to americans.
"CEO accused of sexual harassment doesn't bother with outcome?"
Maybe the entire charge is a trumped up mess from two grifting ass hoochies.
But Cain wants to lead america and he lied to us yesterday, with a straight face. Great start.
If you vote cain in the primary know, you have ZERO reason to complain about obama - you are cool with leaders lying to your face. You may as well let the Denver Broncos O-line run train on your chick, and mop up the mess while telling yourself that she was at church all afternoon. You want to believe.
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oh goody! will be checking the supermarket daily!
Check with the person who ran the ad looking for Rick Perry mistresses. They might be able to help you out.
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Sure knows how to pick em. lol
http://guy-woods-run-president-190144140.html
Herman Cain once wanted Tiger Woods to run for president
Years before businessman Herman Cain decided to run for president as a Republican, he suggested an unorthodox pick to run for the White House in 2016: Tiger Woods.
“Tiger will be 40 years old in 2016,” Cain wrote in a 2006 column. “The Republican Party should begin grooming him now for a run at the White House. His personal attributes and accomplishments on the golf course point to a candidate who will be a problem solver, not a politician.” (RELATED: TheDC coverage of Tiger Woods)
The former Godfather’s Pizza CEO and radio host made the comments in a piece, uncovered by Katrina Trinko of National Review, in which he wrote that the “crop of 2008 Republican presidential contenders is about as inspiring as Saturday’s leftovers for Monday’s lunch.”
His column was also, obviously, written before Tiger Woods’ high-profile scandal and extramarital affairs that led him to take a temporary leave from golf.
“Tiger has surely contemplated both his future goals in golf and his next challenges when he retires from the game,” Cain wrote then. “How refreshing to have a political outsider run for president again.”
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GOP Presidential candidate Herman Cain unaware China has nukes
http://shanghaiist.com/2011/11/01/gop_presidential_candidate_herman_c.php
In an interview on PBS's Newshour with Judy Woodruff, GOP Presidential candidate and former Godfather's Pizza CEO Herman Cain was asked whether he views China as a potential military threat to the United States. His response was... surprising to say the least.
JUDY WOODRUFF: Do you view China as a potential military threat to the United States?
HERMAN CAIN: I do view China as a potential military threat to the United States... we already have superiority in terms of our military capability, and I plan to get away from making cutting our defense a priority and make investing in our military capability a priority, going back to my statement: peace through strength and clarity. So yes they're a military threat. They've indicated that they're trying to develop nuclear capability and they want to develop more aircraft carriers like we have. So yes, we have to consider them a military threat.
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Cain surges despite scandal (Cain 32% Romney 15%)
Poll Position ^ | 11/2/11 | Eason Jordan
Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:25:27 AM by TexasFreeper2009
Our new national poll finds Herman Cain is the breakaway frontrunner for the 2012 Republican nomination despite the fresh disclosure that he faced sexual harassment in the 1990s.
More Republicans and independents than ever say they want Herman Cain to win the Republican nomination.
Our national scientific poll was conducted last night, two days after the Cain controversy erupted and one day after Cain emphatically denied ever committing sexual harassment.
Among Republicans, Cain tops his next closest challenger, Mitt Romney, 33%-18%. They were followed by Newt Gingrich at 17% and Rick Perry at 12%.
Independents favored Cain over Romney 30%-11%, with Ginrich at 9% and Perry at 6%.
Among Republicans and independents combined, Cain garnered 32%, Romney 15%, Gingrich 13%, and Rick Perry 9%.
The poll question: “Who do you want to win the 2012 Republican presidential nomination – Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, Mitt Romney, or someone else?”
Our national scientific telephone survey was conducted November 1, 2011. We interviewed 1,032 registered voters – 417 Republicans (margin of error +/- 5%) and 343 independents (margin of error +/- 5%). The combined tally of 760 Republicans and independents has a margin of error of +/- 4%.
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the fact that a candidate doesn't know CHina even has nukes - and repubs choose him over other candidates - shows 1 of 2 things.
Either their standards are so low, they're okay with something that poorly educated,
or the field is SO slim and weak, that they have to settle for Cain.
I have to think, if Jeb and Christie were in the race, it would be Mitt at 3rd and Everyone saying "hermann WHO?"
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Politico: Iowa yawns at Cain allegations
Politico ^ | 11/01/2011 | By: Reid J. Epstein
MARSHALLTOWN, Iowa — While Herman Cain struggled for a second day in Washington to push back against sexual harassment allegations, the high political drama almost went unmentioned Tuesday in one of the most important courts of public opinion — Iowa.
On the campaign trail, on local conservative talk radio and in conversations among activists, Republicans here have so far greeted the story with a shrug.
The reactions from Cain’s GOP rivals have been muted: His fellow 2012 candidates continue to tread lightly around the report that the likable front-runner reached settlements with two female employees while he was CEO of the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s.
In front of the Iowa Association of Independent Baptists conference in a small church, Michele Bachmann from the pulpit offered only an oblique warning against “surprises.”
“This is the year when we can’t settle,” Bachmann said. “This is the year when we can’t have any surprises with our candidate. We have to have a candidate that we can know when we put them into office we can trust them with their record of what they have done and who they are. I have that record. And I have stood and I have stood strong on those issues.”
Rick Santorum told POLITICO the issue didn’t come up in 12 Iowa appearances Monday and Tuesday.
“We all have issues that we have to deal with on the campaign, and Herman’s dealing with the issue here,” Santorum said. “Look, I’m doing town hall meetings in little towns all throughout Iowa, and I’ll be honest about it, no one has asked me about it. I’ve gotten questions on the same issues I’ve gotten questions about before the story.”
Still, Santorum said the report is something Cain must address.
“That’s an issue for Herman, and he’s got to work it out. Having been through the crucible before, it’s not an easy thing to do,” he said. “It’s not my issue, it’s his issue, and he’s got to deal with it.”
For now, Iowa continues to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Sure knows how to pick em. lol
http://guy-woods-run-president-190144140.html
Herman Cain once wanted Tiger Woods to run for president
Years before businessman Herman Cain decided to run for president as a Republican, he suggested an unorthodox pick to run for the White House in 2016: Tiger Woods.
“Tiger will be 40 years old in 2016,” Cain wrote in a 2006 column. “The Republican Party should begin grooming him now for a run at the White House. His personal attributes and accomplishments on the golf course point to a candidate who will be a problem solver, not a politician.” (RELATED: TheDC coverage of Tiger Woods)
The former Godfather’s Pizza CEO and radio host made the comments in a piece, uncovered by Katrina Trinko of National Review, in which he wrote that the “crop of 2008 Republican presidential contenders is about as inspiring as Saturday’s leftovers for Monday’s lunch.”
His column was also, obviously, written before Tiger Woods’ high-profile scandal and extramarital affairs that led him to take a temporary leave from golf.
“Tiger has surely contemplated both his future goals in golf and his next challenges when he retires from the game,” Cain wrote then. “How refreshing to have a political outsider run for president again.”
Nobody knew Tiger was a ho, back then.
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Nobody knew Tiger was a ho, back then.
Who cares about that?
What the hell would make anyone think Tiger Woods should be President?
That top tier back 9?
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NRO ^ | Nov. 1, 2011 | Andrew McCarthy
Posted on November 2, 2011 10:05:00 PM EDT by fightinJAG
[snip] I can’t understand why our side is giving the Politico/Cain story any sunlight.
I’m not a Cain guy. There is a lot to like about him, and I could easily see myself voting for him against President Obama — which is the same thing I say about several of the GOP candidates, none of whom has won me over yet. But this sorry Politico episode seems to me to have little to do with Cain and everything to do with how content we are to live in the Left’s world.
This controversy is the perfect storm of (a) media hypocrisy: given the bar set by Clinton/Edwards/Ted Kennedy/et al., the worst possible case of what Cain is accused of — if you draw every conceivable negative inference against him — doesn’t come close to being a story, yet the lefty media energetically dig into Cain after having buried the exponentially worse Democrat scandals; (b) the special bull’s-eye fitted on black conservatives: their example of self-reliance and independent thinking makes them such a threat to the “social justice” narrative that, when it comes to destroying them, anything goes; (c) sexual harassment: a social-engineering caprice the arbitrary standards of which can turn routine — not admirable, often unsavory, but entirely unremarkable — human behavior into legal ruin; and (d) the litigious nanny state: with human life hyper-regulated and legal fees hyper-expensive, ordinary human behavior becomes grist for extortionate lawsuits that parties settle on the cheap because the cost of fighting is prohibitive — and later, these parties end up sounding like jackasses if asked about the suits, at least in part because, if you say something strong in your defense, you risk violating the standard reciprocal confidentiality provision and thus reopening the whole expensive, embarrassing business.
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We just got back home after several days of no power. Catching up on what’s been happening, I can’t understand why our side is giving the Politico/Cain story any sunlight.
I’m not a Cain guy. There is a lot to like about him, and I could easily see myself voting for him against President Obama — which is the same thing I say about several of the GOP candidates, none of whom has won me over yet. But this sorry Politico episode seems to me to have little to do with Cain and everything to do with how content we are to live in the Left’s world.
This controversy is the perfect storm of (a) media hypocrisy: given the bar set by Clinton/Edwards/Ted Kennedy/et al., the worst possible case of what Cain is accused of — if you draw every conceivable negative inference against him — doesn’t come close to being a story, yet the lefty media energetically dig into Cain after having buried the exponentially worse Democrat scandals; (b) the special bull’s-eye fitted on black conservatives: their example of self-reliance and independent thinking makes them such a threat to the “social justice” narrative that, when it comes to destroying them, anything goes; (c) sexual harassment: a social-engineering caprice the arbitrary standards of which can turn routine — not admirable, often unsavory, but entirely unremarkable — human behavior into legal ruin; and (d) the litigious nanny state: with human life hyper-regulated and legal fees hyper-expensive, ordinary human behavior becomes grist for extortionate lawsuits that parties settle on the cheap because the cost of fighting is prohibitive — and later, these parties end up sounding like jackasses if asked about the suits, at least in part because, if you say something strong in your defense, you risk violating the standard reciprocal confidentiality provision and thus reopening the whole expensive, embarrassing business.
I’m not sure how conflicting Cain’s statements about this nonsense are, and I frankly don’t care. Cain’s made a number of conflicting statements on matters of substance (e.g., negotiating with terrorists, abortion, the propriety of killing al-Qaeda’s Anwar al-Awlaki, etc.). We’ve got abundant basis to probe how consistent he is, how deep his convictions are, and what all that says about his suitability — just like we ought to be probing conflicting positions taken by other candidates. But on the Politico sensation-out-of-nothing report, the real story is how confident the Left is that it has set the terms of (and the traps in) our public debate. Unfortunately, that confidence seems well placed.
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I’m not sure how conflicting Cain’s statements about this nonsense are, and I frankly don’t care. Cain’s made a number of conflicting statements on matters of substance (e.g., negotiating with terrorists, abortion, the propriety of killing al-Qaeda’s Anwar al-Awlaki, etc.). We’ve got abundant basis to probe how consistent he is, how deep his convictions are, and what all that says about his suitability — just like we ought to be probing conflicting positions taken by other candidates.
I agree, and disagree.
I disagree that cain't repeated lies over the last 2 days aren't important.
The author is correct, in that cain's other positions and statements are far more important.
I get emotional when some cawksuccker lies to me. At that point, fck him. When cain tries to speak to america like we're children, with his silly lies - you just want to spit and elect anyone else except him. smug, lying, condescending prick. that's it. Smug and saying "oh, there is NO NEED" to review any charges, while telling us lies that were caught hours later. I just hate liars. Period. And liars who try to be condescending when they do it, like "oh, how dare you accuse me of lying..."
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Who cares about that?
What the hell would make anyone think Tiger Woods should be President?
That top tier back 9?
Exactl. totally stupid.
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Polls Show Cain Support Remains High — For Now
Thursday, 03 Nov 2011
By Martin Gould
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inShare inShare0 Herman Cain appears to be surviving the growing scandal that is swirling round him in the light of accusations that he has a history of sexually harassing women.
The first poll since the claims surfaced provided the former pizza mogul’s campaign with its first piece of good news since the weekend.
The Rasmussen survey among likely GOP primary voters in South Carolina gave him a 10-point lead over nearest rival, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. Three out of four respondents said they knew about the harassment claims, but fewer than one in three believed them.
Twenty caucus goers in Iowa also said they would not change their vote because of the scandal that has overshadowed the Republican presidential race since Sunday.
But that could all change, top pollster Doug Schoen told Newsmax on Thursday. “It’s just too early to tell,” he said.
“We have three women, we don’t know who they are, we don’t know what the specific allegations are and we don’t know the details of the agreements they signed. But right now the indications are that the voters are not letting it affect their views.
“It’s obviously not good for Herman Cain because he has had to spend four days dealing with this instead of talking about his 9-9-9 plan,” added the Democratic pollster. “Who knows if it is a diversion or if it is something more?”
One defining moment which could decide whether the scandal has legs is likely to come on Friday when Cain’s wife Gloria, who has shunned publicity and has not been on the campaign trail, appears on Fox News for an interview with Greta Van Susteren.
Radio host Martha Zoller, who is planning to run as a Republican candidate for Congress in Georgia’s 9th District and is a close friend of the Cains, told the Daily Beast, “He is the big, gregarious personality. She is this tranquility of the campaign.
“She is very supportive, but her one reservation was that she did not want to be in the spotlight. She understands that at some time that may come,” added Zoller.
“Until then, he loves her so much that he's going to protect her. They're crazy about each other.”
The harassment story broke late on Sunday when the website Politico reported that two women had laid formal complaints against Cain in the late 1990s when he was head of the National Restaurant Association, where they both worked. Full details of the allegations are unclear, but it has been reported that one said he had invited her to his hotel room during a convention in Chicago and the other involved an alcohol-soaked lunch in Virginia.
Both women left the association with five-figure pay-offs after signing confidentiality agreements that forbade either side from speaking about what happened. Initially Cain said he knew nothing about any settlement, then he said one was for two or three months salary. Now reports from Politico and the New York Times put them at $45,000 and $35,000 respectively.
A third employee told the Associated Press on Wednesday that she had considered laying a complaint after Cain invited her up to his corporate apartment in Washington, D.C., but decided against it.
The issue was further complicated when syndicated radio host Steve Deace claimed that Cain – whom he labeled “morally inconsistent" – had made inappropriate comments to two members of his staff during a visit to his studios in Des Moines, Iowa.
Deace said that Cain, who has been married for 43 years, is “compromised in his private life.”
Deace gave an impromptu press conference outside his studio on Wednesday evening while two female staffers were hustled away from reporters by security guards. The host would not say when the incident occurred, however it is known that Deace interviewed Cain in Des Moines on January 14.
None of the names of the women that Cain is alleged to have pestered have so far been revealed. The Chicago hotel woman is known to work for the federal government as a spokeswoman for several agencies. She is married to a registered Washington lobbyist and lives in Maryland.
Her lawyer, Joel Bennett said he will approach restaurant association to ask it to allow his client to speak, as, he says, Cain has broken the agreement by commenting. But even so, he said she only wants to make a written statement rather than come forward publicly.
Cain rose to the top of the polls for the Republican nomination for the White House in October after a series of flubs from Texas Gov. Rick Perry knocked him out of the top tier, and so far he seems to be maintaining his position as the favorite among those who do not want to see Romney as the party’s choice to run against Barack Obama next November.
George W. Bush’s former senior adviser Karl Rove told Fox News it is normal for an under-fire candidate to hold steady in the first few days of a scandal. “There’s a rally-around-the-candidate phenomenon that goes on,” he said.
But Rove said that Cain’s inability to get his story straight could end up as the most damaging aspect of the whole saga.
“First this was a smear, then he didn’t know anything about it, then he knew about something involving one person, and now it turns out to be about two, and now we got a third person coming forward – and actually we have another person coming forward in the form of an assistant to a very popular radio show host in Iowa who, apparently, something mysterious and unpleasant, inappropriate, went on.”
Rove pointed out that Cain’s camp knew the allegations were likely to be revealed for 10 days. “What you do in crisis communications is you sit down and say, ‘Okay. What do we know? Let’s get the lawyers in the room. Let’s figure out what the facts are. How are we going to respond to this if it surfaces?’ And you get all of the facts and all of the story ready at the beginning.
“The worst thing is to have a shifting story which is what we saw here.”
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Cain-harassment-charges-support/2011/11/03/id/416736
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the story is only a few days old.
let's see where he's at after a few weeks.
if it's a smear - which it could be - that's no explanation for cain lying his ass off.
And the ease and smugness that he used to lie - like he was personally offended that anyone would question him.
No apology for misleading us either - it was "oh, I just jogged my memory and suddenly I recall a lot more conversations in great detail."
A smug, fcking liar. screw that. Keep your ass out of the race. Bring in newt and ron paul please.
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Good for him. :)
Defiant Cain raises big money from harassment story
By Daniel Malloy
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
WASHINGTON -- Perhaps there really is no such thing as bad publicity.
On the day presidential candidate Herman Cain faced a barrage of questions about sexual harassment allegations leveled against him in the 1990s and his shifting responses drew criticism, his campaign received a significant financial lift.
Campaign officials said they experienced the most lucrative 24-hour stretch of the campaign as the scandal swirled, bringing in $400,000 in online and phone donations. The one-day take was more than the campaign's monthly average for donations.
"Supporters are fired up and are rallying around Mr. Cain," the campaign wrote in a news release.
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http://www.ajc.com/news/defiant-cain-raises-big-1215021.html
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Clint Eastwood talks politics: Who's the Democrat he voted for? (Read the Article...He's a Cain Fan)
LA Times ^ | 8 November 2011 | Patrick Goldstein
Posted on November 8, 2011 10:46:35 PM EST by buccaneer81
When it comes to the current crop of Republican presidential candidates, if Eastwood is enthusiastic about anyone, it’s Herman Cain. “I love Cain’s story,” he says. “He’s a guy who came from nowhere and did well, obviously against heavy odds. He’s a doer and a straight-talker, which I don’t see enough of from either party.”
(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...
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Herman Cain Announces HUGE Fundraising Numbers
Business Insider ^ | 11/10/11 | Zeke Miller
Presidential candidate Herman Cain is “in it to win it,” according to newly released financial numbers. The Herman Cain Campaign reports receiving over $9 million of financial support from Cain backers since October 1st. Twenty-five percent of these newly received contributions have come in the last ten days.
The generosity of Mr. Cain’s followers has more than doubled in the past five weeks, compared to the financial gifts received in the previous two quarters combined. According to the campaign’s third quarter FEC filing, Mr. Cain’s campaign received $4.7 million from May through September 30th. The campaign has received a total of $14.1 million in financial support since the start of the campaign.
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
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everyone gets their 1 big quarter when they're the flavor of the quarter.
this will be his. enjoy it. if you think this kind of $ will come next quarter, you're off your rocker.
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Sowell: The Real Scandal
gopusa.com ^ | November 10, 2011 | Thomas Sowell
The real scandal in the accusations against Herman Cain is the corruption of the law, the media and politics.
Let's start with the law. Some people may think the fact that the National Restaurant Association reportedly paid $45,000 to settle a claim made by one of its employees against Mr. Cain is incriminating.
Most of us are not going to part with 45 grand without some serious reason. But that is very different from the situation of an organization in the present legal climate.
The figure $45,000 struck a chord with me because, some years ago, my wife -- who is an attorney -- was fervently congratulated when her client had to pay "only" $45,000 in a jury award when the plaintiff was demanding a million dollars, in a case that was as frivolous a lawsuit as you could find.
The person who was suing was a drunk driver, whose car went out of control and slammed into a tree. After the sheriff's deputies arrested her, she sued them on dubious charges, and the sheriff's department was glad it had to pay "only" $45,000.
The department was painfully aware of the uncertainty about what ruinous costs a jury might impose on the deputies.
The real scandal goes far beyond the case of Herman Cain and his accusers. The real scandal is that the law allows people to impose heavy costs on others at little or no cost to themselves. That is a perfect setting for legalized extortion.
The fact that neither judges nor juries always stick to the letter of the law means that people who have zero basis for a lawsuit, under the law as written, can still create enough uncertainty to extract money from people who cannot afford the risk of going to trial.
As for a $45,000 settlement, that is what an organization would pay to settle a nuisance lawsuit -- if they are lucky.
If we had a legal system where judges threw frivolous cases out of court, instead of letting them go to trial, that would put a damper on legalized extortion.
If those who bring charges that do not stand up in court had to pay the other party for their legal fees -- and should have to pay for their time as well -- these games could not go on.
It turns out that the women making televised charges against Herman Cain have past histories that do not inspire confidence, including in at least one case a history of making similar complaints against others.
Another woman who has come forward tells of Herman Cain asking her, at some conference, to see if she could locate some woman in the audience who had asked him a question, so that he could take her to dinner. This apparently struck her as suspicious.
This too reminded me of something I knew about personally. Many years ago, I was at a conference where a woman made some very insightful comments, and I took her to lunch to continue the discussion.
It so happens she was a nun. Contrary to cynics, there is more than one reason for a man to take a woman to lunch or dinner.
The same mainstream media whose responses to proven charges against Bill Clinton was, "Let's move on," is not about to move on from unproven charges against Herman Cain.
What role does race play in all this?
It is probably not racism, as such, that motivates these attacks on Herman Cain. The motivation is far more likely to be politics, but politics makes a prominent black conservative like Clarence Thomas or Herman Cain far more dangerous to the Democrats than an equally prominent white conservative.
The 90 percent black vote for Democrats is like money in the bank on election day. A prominent black conservative who offers an alternative view of the world is a serious danger politically, because if that alternative view has the net effect of reducing the black vote for Democrats just to 75 percent, the Democrats are in big trouble at election time.
In this political context, merely defeating a black conservative at the polls or at confirmation hearings is not enough. He must be destroyed as an influence in the future -- and character assassination is the most obvious way to do it.
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Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305. His website is www.tsowell.com.
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Herman Cain Announces HUGE Fundraising Numbers
Business Insider ^ | 11/10/11 | Zeke Miller
Presidential candidate Herman Cain is “in it to win it,” according to newly released financial numbers. The Herman Cain Campaign reports receiving over $9 million of financial support from Cain backers since October 1st. Twenty-five percent of these newly received contributions have come in the last ten days.
The generosity of Mr. Cain’s followers has more than doubled in the past five weeks, compared to the financial gifts received in the previous two quarters combined. According to the campaign’s third quarter FEC filing, Mr. Cain’s campaign received $4.7 million from May through September 30th. The campaign has received a total of $14.1 million in financial support since the start of the campaign.
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
Good for him. Glad people are seeing through the witch hunt.
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Sowell: The Real Scandal
gopusa.com ^ | November 10, 2011 | Thomas Sowell
The real scandal in the accusations against Herman Cain is the corruption of the law, the media and politics.
Let's start with the law. Some people may think the fact that the National Restaurant Association reportedly paid $45,000 to settle a claim made by one of its employees against Mr. Cain is incriminating.
Most of us are not going to part with 45 grand without some serious reason. But that is very different from the situation of an organization in the present legal climate.
The figure $45,000 struck a chord with me because, some years ago, my wife -- who is an attorney -- was fervently congratulated when her client had to pay "only" $45,000 in a jury award when the plaintiff was demanding a million dollars, in a case that was as frivolous a lawsuit as you could find.
The person who was suing was a drunk driver, whose car went out of control and slammed into a tree. After the sheriff's deputies arrested her, she sued them on dubious charges, and the sheriff's department was glad it had to pay "only" $45,000.
The department was painfully aware of the uncertainty about what ruinous costs a jury might impose on the deputies.
The real scandal goes far beyond the case of Herman Cain and his accusers. The real scandal is that the law allows people to impose heavy costs on others at little or no cost to themselves. That is a perfect setting for legalized extortion.
The fact that neither judges nor juries always stick to the letter of the law means that people who have zero basis for a lawsuit, under the law as written, can still create enough uncertainty to extract money from people who cannot afford the risk of going to trial.
As for a $45,000 settlement, that is what an organization would pay to settle a nuisance lawsuit -- if they are lucky.
If we had a legal system where judges threw frivolous cases out of court, instead of letting them go to trial, that would put a damper on legalized extortion.
If those who bring charges that do not stand up in court had to pay the other party for their legal fees -- and should have to pay for their time as well -- these games could not go on.
It turns out that the women making televised charges against Herman Cain have past histories that do not inspire confidence, including in at least one case a history of making similar complaints against others.
Another woman who has come forward tells of Herman Cain asking her, at some conference, to see if she could locate some woman in the audience who had asked him a question, so that he could take her to dinner. This apparently struck her as suspicious.
This too reminded me of something I knew about personally. Many years ago, I was at a conference where a woman made some very insightful comments, and I took her to lunch to continue the discussion.
It so happens she was a nun. Contrary to cynics, there is more than one reason for a man to take a woman to lunch or dinner.
The same mainstream media whose responses to proven charges against Bill Clinton was, "Let's move on," is not about to move on from unproven charges against Herman Cain.
What role does race play in all this?
It is probably not racism, as such, that motivates these attacks on Herman Cain. The motivation is far more likely to be politics, but politics makes a prominent black conservative like Clarence Thomas or Herman Cain far more dangerous to the Democrats than an equally prominent white conservative.
The 90 percent black vote for Democrats is like money in the bank on election day. A prominent black conservative who offers an alternative view of the world is a serious danger politically, because if that alternative view has the net effect of reducing the black vote for Democrats just to 75 percent, the Democrats are in big trouble at election time.
In this political context, merely defeating a black conservative at the polls or at confirmation hearings is not enough. He must be destroyed as an influence in the future -- and character assassination is the most obvious way to do it.
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Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305. His website is www.tsowell.com.
Great commentary.
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http://www.hapblog.com/2011/11/herman-cain-interview-on-michael-savage.html
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Sowell: The Real Scandal
gopusa.com ^ | November 10, 2011 | Thomas Sowell
The real scandal in the accusations against Herman Cain is the corruption of the law, the media and politics.
Let's start with the law. Some people may think the fact that the National Restaurant Association reportedly paid $45,000 to settle a claim made by one of its employees against Mr. Cain is incriminating.
Most of us are not going to part with 45 grand without some serious reason. But that is very different from the situation of an organization in the present legal climate.
The figure $45,000 struck a chord with me because, some years ago, my wife -- who is an attorney -- was fervently congratulated when her client had to pay "only" $45,000 in a jury award when the plaintiff was demanding a million dollars, in a case that was as frivolous a lawsuit as you could find.
The person who was suing was a drunk driver, whose car went out of control and slammed into a tree. After the sheriff's deputies arrested her, she sued them on dubious charges, and the sheriff's department was glad it had to pay "only" $45,000.
The department was painfully aware of the uncertainty about what ruinous costs a jury might impose on the deputies.
The real scandal goes far beyond the case of Herman Cain and his accusers. The real scandal is that the law allows people to impose heavy costs on others at little or no cost to themselves. That is a perfect setting for legalized extortion.
The fact that neither judges nor juries always stick to the letter of the law means that people who have zero basis for a lawsuit, under the law as written, can still create enough uncertainty to extract money from people who cannot afford the risk of going to trial.
As for a $45,000 settlement, that is what an organization would pay to settle a nuisance lawsuit -- if they are lucky.
If we had a legal system where judges threw frivolous cases out of court, instead of letting them go to trial, that would put a damper on legalized extortion.
If those who bring charges that do not stand up in court had to pay the other party for their legal fees -- and should have to pay for their time as well -- these games could not go on.
It turns out that the women making televised charges against Herman Cain have past histories that do not inspire confidence, including in at least one case a history of making similar complaints against others.
Another woman who has come forward tells of Herman Cain asking her, at some conference, to see if she could locate some woman in the audience who had asked him a question, so that he could take her to dinner. This apparently struck her as suspicious.
This too reminded me of something I knew about personally. Many years ago, I was at a conference where a woman made some very insightful comments, and I took her to lunch to continue the discussion.
It so happens she was a nun. Contrary to cynics, there is more than one reason for a man to take a woman to lunch or dinner.
The same mainstream media whose responses to proven charges against Bill Clinton was, "Let's move on," is not about to move on from unproven charges against Herman Cain.
What role does race play in all this?
It is probably not racism, as such, that motivates these attacks on Herman Cain. The motivation is far more likely to be politics, but politics makes a prominent black conservative like Clarence Thomas or Herman Cain far more dangerous to the Democrats than an equally prominent white conservative.
The 90 percent black vote for Democrats is like money in the bank on election day. A prominent black conservative who offers an alternative view of the world is a serious danger politically, because if that alternative view has the net effect of reducing the black vote for Democrats just to 75 percent, the Democrats are in big trouble at election time.
In this political context, merely defeating a black conservative at the polls or at confirmation hearings is not enough. He must be destroyed as an influence in the future -- and character assassination is the most obvious way to do it.
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Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305. His website is www.tsowell.com.
As I posted elsewhere, the average cost for fighting a harassment suit in the late 90s was $250,000. Back then, 2 of every three harassment cases went to the plaintiffs, with an average award of $300,000.
SOOOOOO, the question is, why did Krausshaar settle for a mere $46,000 with a 67% chance of getting $300,000 or more, assuming of course that the $46,000 was indeed a sexual harassment settlement and not severance pay, as Cain suggested?
(Hint: Ask Sharon Bialek about her legal cases)
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This story looks to be making Cain stronger. savage is now solidly behind Cain.
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This story looks to be making Cain stronger. savage is now solidly behind Cain.
Cain is raising much more money. But Newt is coming up and Cain has dropped a bit in the polls (though he still leads in several of them).
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Cain is raising much more money. But Newt is coming up and Cain has dropped a bit in the polls (though he still leads in several of them).
newt is a verbal machine gun. The good thing about newts rise is that it seems at the expense of perry and Ron ey.
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Cain: Politico Had No Documentation of Accusations - Pt 1 (Must See!)
FOX News ^ | November 11, 2011 | Neil Cavtuo
Posted on November 11, 2011 6:11:05 PM EST by Raebie
Herman Cain interview with Neil Cavuto. Pt. 2:
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/your-world-
/index.html#/v/1270866598001/cain-if-i-have-to-stop-being-me-im-not-running/?playlist_id=86929
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
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Cain's wife told him to get Lin Todd.....BRILLIANT!!!
Now, all of a sudden, Kraushaar has canceled (or at least, postponed) her big press conference, to detail what Cain supposedly did.
She can't contact the other anonymous accusers, won't do the presser without them, and won't go by herself or with just Bialek.
And, Cain has thrown down the gauntlet. When his accusers come with specific claims and take a lie detector test, he will do the same.....with Lin Todd in tow.
Let's see if Kraushaar and Bialek put their money (or lack thereof in Bialek's case) where their mouths are.
For what it's worth, it's now out that Bialek's reported fiance' really ain't her fiance'. At least, they broke up in February.
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Cain's wife told him to get Lin Todd.....BRILLIANT!!!
Now, all of a sudden, Kraushaar has canceled (or at least, postponed) her big press conference, to detail what Cain supposedly did.
She can't contact the other anonymous accusers, won't do the presser without them, and won't go by herself or with just Bialek.
And, Cain has thrown down the gauntlet. When his accusers come with specific claims and take a lie detector test, he will do the same.....with Lin Todd in tow.
Let's see if Kraushaar and Bialek put their money (or lack thereof in Bialek's case) where their mouths are.
For what it's worth, it's now out that Bialek's reported fiance' really ain't her fiance'. At least, they broke up in February.
Who is Lin Todd?
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Uh oh.
Newsmax Poll: Cain ‘Barely Holding On’ in Iowa
Friday, 11 Nov 2011
By Martin Gould
Republican women are starting to turn away from scandal-plagued presidential candidate Herman Cain, an exclusive Newsmax/InsiderAdvantage poll shows.
The pizza mogul is still ahead in the crucial state of Iowa, but his lead over one-time front-runner Mitt Romney is dwindling, the survey shows.
But while 31 percent of Iowan men say they would still vote for Cain, only 16 percent of women say the same.
“Herman Cain is holding on in Iowa, but barely,” said InsiderAdvantage head Matt Towery. “He is still in the thick of it, but he is not doing well with the female vote.”
Sharon Bialek is one of Cain's accusers. (AP) The new poll was taken on Thursday night, the day after the main GOP candidates debated in Auburn Hills, Mich. and 11 days after allegations surfaced that Cain has a history of sexually harassing women.
Cain has consistently said those charges are false.
It showed Cain now attracts 23 percent of voters who plan to take part in the Jan. 3 GOP caucus in the state. That is down from 30 percent he received in a similar poll eight days earlier.
The voters who deserted Cain were evenly spread among the other candidates. Former Massachusetts Gov. Romney was up from 15 percent to 19 and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich rose from 12 percent to 15.
Texas Rep. Ron Paul went from 9 percent to 12 while Texas Gov. Rick Perry went from 6 percent to 9.
However Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann slipped, going down from 8 percent to 5 in the state in which she has been pinning her entire campaign.
But among women, Cain’s share of the vote had nearly halved in those eight days, going down from 29 percent to 16, Towery said.
A separate poll that InsiderAdvantage carried out in South Carolina for the Augusta Chronicle showed that Gingrich had overtaken Romney there for second spot. It showed Cain with 26 percent, Gingrich with 19; Romney at 16; Perry at 6; Bachmann at 5; Paul on 3 and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum on 2.
But the race in South Carolina – where a debate is due to be held on Saturday evening – is still wide open as 20 percent said they had no opinion or had not made up their mind who they will vote for.
“Romney is certainly stronger than he was four years ago and he is showing that he has the ability to connect in states where he had some difficulty then, but Gingrich is now nipping at his heels and he is certainly the one to watch,” said Towery.
The pollster said that Cain has so far weathered the storm of the harassment charges and if no other women come forward, he could survive. “The question now is can Gingrich find a way to take down Cain in Iowa.”
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Cain-poll-women-harassment/2011/11/11/id/417705
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the 10% of balls-out men will donate their entire 2011-2012 political donations to their 'victim', herman cani.
And thanks to the accusation, there is the 50% of women voters he'll lose.
SO in the end, the GOP is poorer for anti-obama elections, cause so many people will be tapped out. Cain is losing iowa, despite the getbig nostradamus saying this will make him stronger. (his HANDLING of it, not the bullshit claims, are what is costing him). And women dislike the GOP just a widdle bit.
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Who is Lin Todd?
OOPS!! That's Lin Wood!
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This story looks to be making Cain stronger. savage is now solidly behind Cain.
How about you?..are you back behind Cain as well??..you were about to abandon him last week when the going was getting tough
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newt is a verbal machine gun. The good thing about newts rise is that it seems at the expense of perry and Ron ey.
everyone get ready for 3333 to jump on the Newt bandwagon in a few days
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everyone get ready for 3333 to jump on the Newt bandwagon in a few days
I am for RP. You are for your disgusting communist ghetto thug grifter messia.
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I am for RP. You are for your disgusting communist ghetto thug grifter messia.
I wonder why you keep using this word to describe Obama...maybe its because he's BLACK??????
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I wonder why you keep using this word to describe Obama...maybe its because he's BLACK??????
He chose to be from south side of Chicago, the ghetto.
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He chose to be from south side of Chicago, the ghetto.
According to you, you live in a ghetto as well here in the Bronx..guess you have a lot in common with Obama then???
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According to you, you live in a ghetto as well here in the Bronx..guess you have a lot in common with Obama then???
False, I am real NYr. Obama is faker. BTW - did you put your 2012 sticker on your hot dog cart yet?
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OOPS!! That's Lin Wood!
Thanks. No worries. I had to Google his name. Thought he was some kind of polygraph expert or something. :)
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End of thread.
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I am for RP. You are for your disgusting communist ghetto thug grifter messia.
no youre not.. youre an idiot
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Too bad. He was good for the race.
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Too bad. He was good for the race.
agreed. it was nice to be able to determine who the sub-85 IQ'ers were in the room. They always had a "Cain 2012" t-shirt on.
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agreed. it was nice to be able to determine who the sub-85 IQ'ers were in the room. They always had a "Cain 2012" t-shirt on.
He wasted everyone's time
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He wasted everyone's time
no, he didn't. He gave more material to late night/jon stewart than was thought possible. He was black gold.... ;)
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He wasted everyone's time
he also watered down the GOP brand/perception among casual voters.
My wife is smart as a rock, politically :)
She knows that the repub guy fcks around. that's it. she doesn't know his first name is herman lol... she just knows 'the happy guy with glasses who was going to run against obama got in trouble for cheating'.
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Too bad. He was good for the race.
Yep. Unfortunately, all these allegations were dredged up to get him out of the race. Mission accomplished.
This appears to be a Meg Whitman smear job, all over again.
agreed. it was nice to be able to determine who the sub-85 IQ'ers were in the room. They always had a "Cain 2012" t-shirt on.
I'm sorry. For whom did you vote in 2008, again?
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Bob Barr in 2008.
Cain could have taken a polygraph and would be the next POTUS. Pride got in his way. Or his dick. not sure which. Let me text him at 4:26 am and ask. He'll be up.
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Yep. Unfortunately, all these allegations were dredged up to get him out of the race. Mission accomplished.
This appears to be a Meg Whitman smear job, all over again.
I'm sorry. For whom did you vote in 2008, again?
It absolutely worked. This is part of the reason good people like Cain stay out of politics.
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It absolutely worked. This is part of the reason good people like Cain stay out of politics.
Exactly.
Despite Cain being cleared of the NRA charges (admitted even by Kraushaar's lawyer, when he criticized the effectiveness of the NRA investigation), Bialek's story having NO PROOF whatsoever, and White (with a history of libel, slander, and stalking, with most of her texts and calls to Cain about money; she's been perpetually broke for years), we're to believe that Cain is the bad guy here.
That's why I don't judge by the "court of popular opinion" (aka guilty until proven innocent; don't we criticize Muslim countries for that line of thinking?).
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It absolutely worked. This is part of the reason good people like Cain stay out of politics.
cheats on his wife ,good people :D :D :D the party of family values :D
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Exactly.
Despite Cain being cleared of the NRA charges (admitted even by Kraushaar's lawyer, when he criticized the effectiveness of the NRA investigation), Bialek's story having NO PROOF whatsoever, and White (with a history of libel, slander, and stalking, with most of her texts and calls to Cain about money; she's been perpetually broke for years), we're to believe that Cain is the bad guy here.
That's why I don't judge by the "court of popular opinion" (aka guilty until proven innocent; don't we criticize Muslim countries for that line of thinking?).
Look - its not fair - but with Obama's disastrous record of failure, disgrace, crimes, corruption, etc, we all knew this was going to be open warfare.
This election is going to be a real WW1 style trench warfare situation. Not for the faint of heart for sure.
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cheats on his wife ,good people :D :D :D the party of family values :D
What family value is running guns to drug cartels and laundering their money?
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post is about your man cain ;D
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post is about your man cain ;D
answer the question.
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Exactly.
Despite Cain being cleared of the NRA charges (admitted even by Kraushaar's lawyer, when he criticized the effectiveness of the NRA investigation), Bialek's story having NO PROOF whatsoever, and White (with a history of libel, slander, and stalking, with most of her texts and calls to Cain about money; she's been perpetually broke for years), we're to believe that Cain is the bad guy here.
That's why I don't judge by the "court of popular opinion" (aka guilty until proven innocent; don't we criticize Muslim countries for that line of thinking?).
Agree. I usually give the man the benefit of the doubt when these types of allegations are made public. Also, I've seen opportunistic women pile on before. Not uncommon at all, unfortunately.
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It absolutely worked. This is part of the reason good people like Cain stay out of politics.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHHA Cumshotting humor right there.
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BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHHA Cumshotting humor right there.
Once again, where is your proof that Cain cheated on his wife? I've been asking that of you and your TK buddy, Blacken, for WEEKS.
Other than stupid videos and smiley faces on his part, and mind-boggling hypocrisy (grilling Cain for alleged adultery and lying, while condoning Gingrich ACTUAL adultery and lying) on yours, you two have produced.......ZILCH!!
Now, Bialek and Allred are gloating about being "vindicated" that Cain's campaign is done.
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he's all done stop crying over spilt milk, the last straw was the affair on his wife he know there was going to be to much evidence for him to lie his way out of.the truth was tighten around his neck like a noose.but there are going to be a few brain washed cainbots that are going to believe him to the end :D
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he's all done stop crying over spilt milk, the last straw was the affair on his wife he know there was going to be to much evidence for him to lie his way out of.the truth was tighten around his neck like a noose.but there are going to be a few brain washed cainbots that are going to believe him to the end :D
do you blame ATM's for the economy?
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stick with the topic,was cain lying ???
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stick with the topic,was cain lying ???
That would be a first.
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stick with the topic,was cain lying ???
I believe so.
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he's all done stop crying over spilt milk, the last straw was the affair on his wife he know there was going to be to much evidence for him to lie his way out of.the truth was tighten around his neck like a noose.but there are going to be a few brain washed cainbots that are going to believe him to the end :D
What "truth" would that be?
Oh, I forgot. I'm talking to the poster boy of cowardice, when it comes to answering simple questions.
The bottom line is this was a SMEAR campaign, regardless of how accurate the charges were. Same thing happened with Meg Whitman. The maid and Allred were lying through their teeth. But, Whitman's campaign got torpedoed, nonetheless.
stick with the topic,was cain lying ???
So far, the answer is no. Cain said that they were friends and that most of the phone messages and texts (the evidence for Cain's alleged infidelity) were from White, begging for money. The Atlanta Journal Constitution, checked the phone records. Of the 70 texts, only 17 came from Cain, nearly all of which were responses to White's calls for cash.
Of course, Blacken and others conveniently forget that this woman has a history of libel and slander. And, there are rumors floating that she and her former business partners were lesbian lovers.
As one pundit put it, we're to believe that she had an affair with Cain, while married to two other guys (she's divorced with two kids), allegedly along with a lesbian relationship, and to top it all off while Cain was fighting for dear life with cancer.
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post a link
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Once again, where is your proof that Cain cheated on his wife? I've been asking that of you and your TK buddy, Blacken, for WEEKS.
Other than stupid videos and smiley faces on his part, and mind-boggling hypocrisy (grilling Cain for alleged adultery and lying, while condoning Gingrich ACTUAL adultery and lying) on yours, you two have produced.......ZILCH!!
Now, Bialek and Allred are gloating about being "vindicated" that Cain's campaign is done.
Would you let jerry sandusky babysit for you? Hell no!
But I guess all we have there is the accusations of multiple victims.
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Deception cited as source of Cain's troublesShareThisPrint E-mail .By Nedra Rhone
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Though his political career had only just begun, last week former presidential candidate Herman Cain joined the cadre of politicians who saw his professional aspirations overshadowed by marital issues.
Whether his 43-year marriage to Gloria Cain will suffer a similar fate as some other political unions marred by infidelity remains to be seen, but according to experts one thing is for sure: Whether his alleged relationship with Ginger White of Dunwoody was sexual in nature or not, the deception alone makes it an affair.
"What you are getting here is the common thread in all affairs, which is deception," said Gerry Lane, a licensed marriage and family therapist in Buckhead. "A secret relationship ... is what makes [an affair] exciting."
On Saturday, Cain suspended his bid for the presidency amid allegations of sexual harassment and the particularly damning charge from White, who claimed she had a 13-year extramarital affair with Cain. Cain has denied the charges, but the damage was done -- and it may be bigger blow to his career than his marriage.
About 80 percent of the betrayed spouses Lane sees try to repair their marriages after infidelity, he said, but a recent poll by the Pew Center for the People and the Press indicates that the public's opinion of a candidate's infidelity is more negative than in 2007. The study also showed that more Republicans (57 percent) than Democrats (42 percent) say they would be less likely to support a candidate who has had an extramarital affair.
"I don't know these people, but it was a secret, powerful, emotional relationship, and now the damage is, the trust is broken," Lane said. Deception, it seems, is an intimacy killer. "If someone is deceiving you, you cannot really have true intimacy or closeness," Lane said. "The person who has had the affair has to become an open book and has to become totally transparent in order to rebuild trust," he said.
And that may hold true whether the person on the receiving end is a spouse or a political constituent.
"I was bothered by the way the allegations were handled, especially when the information came out about Ms. White and that [Cain's] wife didn't know her and didn't know he was giving her money," Atlanta Tea Party co-founder Debbie Dooley said the day Cain announced he was no longer running. "What is that saying? It's not the deed that does you in, it is the denial or the cover-up."
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if my woman was sending thousands of dollars to 'some dude' and texting him at 4 am...
i'd be planning a trip for 3 to the everglades.... and i'd be getting much better gas mileage on the trip back ;)
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Would you let jerry sandusky babysit for you? Hell no!
But I guess all we have there is the accusations of multiple victims.
Ummm....NOOOO!!! We have eyewitnesses, sworn testimonies, dates, and paperwork.......FAR MORE EVIDENCE in this case than in this mess with Cain.
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Ummm....NOOOO!!! We have eyewitnesses, sworn testimonies, and paperwork.......FAR MORE EVIDENCE in this case than in this mess with Cain.
would you let sandusky babysit if he sent your kid 64 texts? No, because even though you couldn't prove anything, you'd pretty much know something ain't right.
Cain deceived his wife. He admitted that. That's inappropriate. He has instantly proven his quote of "I have never done anything inappropriate in 43 years of marriage" to be a LIE.
MCWAY, there's nothing else to talk about here. Cain is a liar. Marital financial deception over decades is inappropriate by any definition of the word. Cain lied when he said there had been nothing inappropriate.
SO whether it's 1 lie or 1000 lies, the man is a liar. Period. All we can debate now is "how much of a liar is he". Kinda weak.
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post a link
I've posted links for weeks now, not that it matters. Instead of reading them, you will make silly excuses, duck the question, or drag Rush Limbaugh into the conversation.
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would you let sandusky babysit if he sent your kid 64 texts? No, because even though you couldn't prove anything, you'd pretty much know something ain't right.
Cain deceived his wife. He admitted that. That's inappropriate. He has instantly proven his quote of "I have never done anything inappropriate in 43 years of marriage" to be a LIE.
MCWAY, there's nothing else to talk about here. Cain is a liar. Marital financial deception over decades is inappropriate by any definition of the word. Cain lied when he said there had been nothing inappropriate.
SO whether it's 1 lie or 1000 lies, the man is a liar. Period. All we can debate now is "how much of a liar is he". Kinda weak.
First, what Cain admitted was that he didn't tell his wife about his giving money to White.
Second, the issue is whether or not he was SCREWING Ginger White. One of them is lying (and since we know White has a history of lying, my benefit of the doubt goes to Cain).
Third, you of all people (as has been pointed out repeatedly) are the last one to be griping about people being deceitful. You have no problem excusing Gingrich for actual lying and adultery, with the rock-hard evidence to back it. Yet, you get bent out of shape about Cain's ALLEGED lying and adultery (virtually NONE of which has been substantially proven).
That is utterly ridiculous.
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First, what Cain admitted was that he didn't tell his wife about his giving money to White.
Second, the issue is whether or not he was SCREWING Ginger White. One of them is lying (and since we know White has a history of lying, my benefit of the doubt goes to Cain).
Third, you of all people (as has been pointed out repeatedly) are the last one to be griping about people being deceitful. You have no problem excusing Gingrich for actual lying and adultery, with the rock-hard evidence to back it. Yet, you get bent out of shape about Cain's ALLEGED lying and adultery (virtually NONE of which has been substantially proven).
That is utterly ridiculous.
Statement 1:
Cain: "I have never acted inappropriately with anyone, period."
Statement 2:
Cain on fiancial help: 'My wife did not know about it, and that was the revelation. My wife found out about it when she went public with it.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/guy-White.html#ixzz1fsISrcz6
Secretly giving money to a woman without telling your wife - acting inappropriate.
He lied every time he gave that money by omission, very much inappropriate.
So you have a man who acted inappropriately - repeatedly.
This isn't something the media made him do. He was paying off the lezbo and lying to the wife about it for 13 years before the media had heard of him. Kinda hard to blame this one on msnbc.
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Statement 1:
Cain: "I have never acted inappropriately with anyone, period."
Statement 2:
Cain on fiancial help: 'My wife did not know about it, and that was the revelation. My wife found out about it when she went public with it.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/guy-White.html#ixzz1fsISrcz6
Secretly giving money to a woman without telling your wife - acting inappropriate.
He lied every time he gave that money by omission, very much inappropriate.
So you have a man who acted inappropriately - repeatedly.
This isn't something the media made him do. He was paying off the lezbo and lying to the wife about it for 13 years before the media had heard of him. Kinda hard to blame this one on msnbc.
Nice try! But, we went down this road a week ago (at least).
And what's a "cash affair"?
You asked me if I thought Cain acted inappropriately. I stated, in no uncertain terms, that you need to define "inappropriate". I later stated that, if by "inappropriate", you mean did Cain screw around on his wife. To which, I answered, "No!".
I already know that Cain didn't tell his wife about the money. He mentioned that on Hannity's TV show. He also mentioned that he's helped other people (mostly males) financially without telling his wife about it.
Giving a woman a few bucks (relatively speaking) <<<<<< boning her on and off for 13 years.
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it is inappropriate to secretly pay a woman money when you're married, and you deliberately mislead your wife on it.
he said he'd done NOTHING inappropriate. He admits that's not true now.
That's a lie. Cain is an admitted liar. Maybe he didn't put his penis inside this woman, but he did act inappropriately, by his own admission.
And yes, paying a woman isnt as bad as boning her. I guess we can argue that, but we can agree on the fact cain wasn't being honest with "i've never done anything inappropriate".
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it is inappropriate to secretly pay a woman money when you're married, and you deliberately mislead your wife on it.
he said he'd done NOTHING inappropriate. He admits that's not true now.
That's a lie. Cain is an admitted liar. Maybe he didn't put his penis inside this woman, but he did act inappropriately, by his own admission.
And yes, paying a woman isnt as bad as boning her. I guess we can argue that, but we can agree on the fact cain wasn't being honest with "i've never done anything inappropriate".
Farting in mixed company is inappropriate; gazing at a woman's cleavage (despite her wearing a super-plunging neckline, ala Nicole Scherzinger, on the Conan O'Brien show) is inappropriate. But, that's not what sank Cain's campaign.
The issue is whether or not Cain was either harassing or boning these women. Cain has stated that he has not. And there's little evidence to suggest otherwise. Until such evidence comes to light, I believe Cain's word over that of these women, especially given that at least one is a known liar, sued for libel, defamation, and stalking.
His statement about not doing anything inappropriate was with respect to the charges of:
- Harassing Kraushaar and the other NRA woman,
- Reaching for Bialek's snatch and nearly forcing her to blow him to get her job back,
- Boning White for nearly 13 years (while he was fighting cancer, while she was married and divorced twice, and allegedly in a lesbian relationship with her business partner).
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I guess your beef, then, is with Cain for making such a blanket statement.
Most people believed it was silly to make his claim of never doing anything inappropriate in 43 years.
But he stood by it. Very high standard.
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I guess your beef, then, is with Cain for making such a blanket statement.
Most people believed it was silly to make his claim of never doing anything inappropriate in 43 years.
But he stood by it. Very high standard.
My beef is that a GOP candidate is gone, because of some malicious accusations, with nary a shred of proof. Two of the three known accusers have been shown to be LIARS (who also happen to be broke and, by other reports, loose).
The third (and initial) accuser, to this day, still hasn't stated what Cain supposedly did (despite being cleared by NRA to do so for over a month).
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As I said in the past, I don't care what Cain did or didn't do with those women.
My beef was he went on television and not only lied, but lied in such a clumsy way that even a blind man could see through it. And then his other gaffe's were nothing more than attempts to get his name mentioned on late night comedy shows at the very least.
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he's gone because he was incompetent.
that libya freeze up, where he tried to recall his memorized answer?
China is trying to get nukes?
I'm a leader, not a reader?
I'd empty GITMO for 1 hostage?
liberals killed jesus?
He wasn't prepared for this office, and voters realized this, the more he talked.
Ask 33 or any other repub here to tell you he believes Cain was mentally prepared to be president. Not in comparison to obama - but in comparison to the other GOPers and the demands of the job of POTUS.
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he's gone because he was incompetent.
that libya freeze up, where he tried to recall his memorized answer?
China is trying to get nukes?
I'm a leader, not a reader?
I'd empty GITMO for 1 hostage?
liberals killed jesus?
He wasn't prepared for this office, and voters realized this, the more he talked.
Ask 33 or any other repub here to tell you he believes Cain was mentally prepared to be president. Not in comparison to obama - but in comparison to the other GOPers and the demands of the job of POTUS.
He's gone because of these allegations. He would still be in the race, despite these gaffes (just likely with lower poll numbers, ala Rick Perry), but still in the race.
And, the "leader not a reader" routine, was a shot at Mr. Teleprompter himself. Obama reads well but can't lead his way out of a paper back (the last three years proofs that).
If Cain ain't qualified, the voters will determine that and he'd been beaten soundly in the primary race, at the ballot box.
Instead, he's forced out because of this foolishness and (to date) false accusations, which was the whole point of this being dredged up. Funny how none of these women felt the need to come forward, when Cain was in the pack.
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Haha bye bye Cain you loser!
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Hey 333 how many repubs have you pumped up and said could be Obama?
Palin how'd that go? Trump? Hahaha Cain? Hahahahahaha
Get used to sucking some more Obama dick loser
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why bother your arguing with a guy who gets his facts from rush and hannidy,that about says it all
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Hey 333 how many repubs have you pumped up and said could be Obama?
Palin how'd that go? Trump? Hahaha Cain? Hahahahahaha
Get used to sucking some more Obama dick loser
A muslim fanatic in the desert who rapes goats and camels is better than obama.
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Hey 333 how many repubs have you pumped up and said could be Obama?
Palin how'd that go? Trump? Hahaha Cain? Hahahahahaha
Get used to sucking some more Obama dick loser
I'll leave that to you and Blacken. But, you may want to get your slurping done before next November.
why bother your arguing with a guy who gets his facts from rush and hannidy,that about says it all
This coming from a guy, who needs a Speak-and-Spell for Christmas? Too funny!!
I get my facts from multiple sources. My links and threads prove it, unlike you who wallows in the cesspool that is the red-headed stepchild of cable news (MNSBC).
Last I heard, Anderson Cooper of CNN and Ed Schultz of MSNBC were barking back and forth about who's kicking whose butt in ratings. That's like the 2008 Lions talking smack to the 1976 Bucs.
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Cain finally wised up and had a moment of clarity where the writing on the wall was clear. He couldn't hack it. He was not keeping his head above the water and there was no life saving device to be found nearby.
He just was not ready or competent. Arguing otherwise or "compared to" is useless and an empty excuse at this point.
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you say rush says this and hannidy says that ,your hypocrite christain candidate is gone and good riddens,the party of family values :D :D :D, now go find some other hypocrite,i hear newt is the front runner that should suit you fine :D
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you say rush says this and hannidy says that ,your hypocrite christain candidate is gone and good riddens,the party of family values :D :D :D, now go find some other hypocrite,i hear newt is the front runner that should suit you fine :D
What family value is gun/drug running and money laundering?
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Cain finally wised up and had a moment of clarity where the writing on the wall was clear. He couldn't hack it. He was not keeping his head above the water and there was no life saving device to be found nearby.
He just was not ready or competent. Arguing otherwise or "compared to" is useless and an empty excuse at this point.
Then, he would have been beaten in the caucass races and that would have been that. But, that's not the issue here. The issue here is that he and his family have been smeared and wounded by (at present) FALSE accusations with next-to NO EVIDENCE to back them.
His known accusers:
- A broke woman, known for slander, libel, stalking, and defamation
- Another broke woman, known for serial harassment suits, lying, and carrying on with her boss.
- The initial woman, calling Cain a "monster", but to this day (despite being cleared by NRA) has yet to state what Cain supposedly did or said to her (other than that she's the same height as Cain's wife).
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you say rush says this and hannidy says that ,your hypocrite christain candidate is gone and good riddens,the party of family values :D :D :D, now go find some other hypocrite,i hear newt is the front runner that should suit you fine :D
If someone is quoted as saying something, and he's on Hannity's show, OF COURSE I'M GOING TO CITE THAT PARTICULAR SHOW. Are you really this bereft of sense, or is this a special act just for my amusement?
If I hear something on Rush or Hannity on the radio, before I get to see it on the news or the Web, I report it and check it out online later.
I also cite CNN sources, CBS sources, Fox, the LA Times, or any other source, related to the topic at hand.
Your screwball attempt to paint Hannity and Limbaugh as my lone sources of information simply expose you for the goofball you are.
Or do I need to remind you of the CNN article about Kraushaar's severance deal, confirming that Cain was cleared and that Kraushaar's lawyer was critical of it, calling it less effective than an external investigation would have been?
Or the ABC article, that told of Kimberly Vay, Ginger White's ex-business partner.....you know, the one that sued White for libel AND WON!!
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you say rush says this and hannidy says that ,your hypocrite christain candidate is gone and good riddens,the party of family values :D :D :D, now go find some other hypocrite,i hear newt is the front runner that should suit you fine :D
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You sure love those emoticons don't you?
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I can understand why Cain wouldn't take a polygraph about any inappropriate actions.
he would have failed. by his own admission. Paying out cash payments to a lesbian secretly for 13 years.
makes sense now.
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I can understand why Cain wouldn't take a polygraph about any inappropriate actions.
he would have failed. by his own admission. Paying out cash payments to a lesbian secretly for 13 years.
makes sense now.
Cain is the only guy who could be taken to the cleaners for 13 years by a lesbian.....she must have been counting the flies on the wall while he was on top of her :)
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Cain is the only guy who could be taken to the cleaners for 13 years by a lesbian.....she must have been counting the flies on the wall while he was on top of her :)
Taken to the cleaners? This woman has yet to produce the gifts that Cain allegedly gave her and she's got eviction notices out the wazoo. That doesn't sound like someone that bilked Cain for any major $$$$$$.
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Taken to the cleaners? This woman has yet to produce the gifts that Cain allegedly gave her and she's got eviction notices out the wazoo. That doesn't sound like someone that bilked Cain for any major $$$$$$.
McWay...give it up already...I admire you for sticking to your guns for a little while but come on dude....Cain is making you look like a fool
Even 3333 has given up on him and denounced him..what does that say?????????
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McWay...give it up already...I admire you for sticking to your guns for a little while but come on dude....Cain is making you look like a fool
Even 3333 has given up on him and denounced him..what does that say?????????
It says that 333386 can say whatever he wants.
My post was a direct response to your claim that White took Cain to the cleaners.
As for this issue, this was a smear job (ala Meg Whitman), with the goal (now accomplished) of getting Cain gone. Never mind if the accusations are actually true (especially an adultery claim, made by a libeler and slanderer). The damage is done, and that's all that mattered.
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oh it's ok if he lies and cheats and grabs ass, but it's not ok if it's a smear job. :D :D :D more of them family values :D
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oh it's ok if he lies and cheats and grabs ass, but it's not ok if it's a smear job. :D :D :D more of them family values :D
Yet its ok to launder drug money and give guns to cartels?
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This is funny... You get rid of one guy because it was alleged that he cheated on his wife.. for a guy that defiantly cheated on his wife.. and it was proven?
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I am a bit disappointed that Cain left. I really wanted him to stick around as long as possible and have the party voters to stomp him off the ticket in the primary.
He knew that was going to happen and that he was in a heated race for last place among Bachmann and Santaororororom. Rather than stick around and win the last place spot, he bailed.
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This is funny... You get rid of one guy because it was alleged that he cheated on his wife.. for a guy that defiantly cheated on his wife.. and it was proven?
It wasnt the repubs screaming over this moron! Damn you are dense.
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Yet its ok to launder drug money and give guns to cartels?
your posting on the wrong topic again
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oh it's ok if he lies and cheats and grabs ass, but it's not ok if it's a smear job. :D :D :D more of them family values :D
You missed by a mile. IF these allegations are true, Cain deserves the flaming he got and then some.
To this day, there is NO evidence that he is guilty of what he stands accused (We still don't know what he supposedly did to Kraushaar, other than say she's as tall as his wife). The NRA investigation apparently cleared him. And, Bialek's story has been ripped to pieces.
As for White, no evidence, no receipts, no alleged gifts.....just texts and phone messages (mainly from her begging for money). Did I mention she lost in court for libel and slander and stalking her former business partner?
And I'm supposed to believe known libelers, slanderers, and serial criers of harassment over Herman Cain, because.........
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You missed by a mile. IF these allegations are true, Cain deserves the flaming he got and then some.
To this day, there is NO evidence that he is guilty of what he stands accused (We still don't know what he supposedly did to Kraushaar, other than say she's as tall as his wife). The NRA investigation apparently cleared him. And, Bialek's story has been ripped to pieces.
As for White, no evidence, no receipts, no alleged gifts.....just texts and phone messages (mainly from her begging for money). Did I mention she lost in court for libel and slander and stalking her former business partner?
And I'm supposed to believe known libelers, slanderers, and serial criers of harassment over Herman Cain, because.........
and he got out of the race why,because the shit was coming down,if you believe cain is telling the truth i have a boat to sell you that will carry 2 of every animal on earth ahahh nevermind :D :D
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You missed by a mile. IF these allegations are true, Cain deserves the flaming he got and then some.
To this day, there is NO evidence that he is guilty of what he stands accused (We still don't know what he supposedly did to Kraushaar, other than say she's as tall as his wife). The NRA investigation apparently cleared him. And, Bialek's story has been ripped to pieces.
As for White, no evidence, no receipts, no alleged gifts.....just texts and phone messages (mainly from her begging for money). Did I mention she lost in court for libel and slander and stalking her former business partner?
And I'm supposed to believe known libelers, slanderers, and serial criers of harassment over Herman Cain, because.........
theres no evidence that supplements work either..but you still buy them
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and he got out of the race why,because the shit was coming down,if you believe cain is telling the truth i have a boat to sell you that will carry 2 of every animal on earth ahahh nevermind :D :D
How hard is it to prove you've had an affair with someone for 13 years?
Or, what did he supposedly do to Kraushaar? She's had a MONTH to explain why she filed against Cain.
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theres no evidence that supplements work either..but you still buy them
I'm sorry! How much of that 14 pounds of Cell-Tech you bought is left?
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How hard is it to prove you've had an affair with someone for 13 years?
Or, what did he supposedly do to Kraushaar? She's had a MONTH to explain why she filed against Cain.
he got out of the race ,he defused the situation nobody cares any more
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he got out of the race ,he defused the situation nobody cares any more
But you, all while you avoid issues like MF obama, fast n furious, solyndra, etc like the black plague.
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But you, all while you avoid issues like MF obama, fast n furious, solyndra, etc like the black plague.
same as you still care about the birther issue after it has been thoroughly debunked
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How hard is it to prove you've had an affair with someone for 13 years?
Or, what did he supposedly do to Kraushaar? She's had a MONTH to explain why she filed against Cain.
He should have sued her if she was lying.
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He should have sued her if she was lying.
Exactly what I said the other month. And he hasn't done that .....WHY?
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he got out of the race ,he defused the situation nobody cares any more
That's the point!! All this mess was done to get him out of the race, no matter how false the accusations might be (and likely are, based on what we've seen thus far).
See Meg Whitman.
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Exactly what I said the other month. And he hasn't done that .....WHY?
White's BROKE!! What's Cain going to get from her? And Kraushaar? It's been a MONTH, yet we still don't know what this "monster" Cain did to her. But, apparently it wasn't enough to convince her she'd win in court (where harassment cases were averaging $300,000). So, she took her $46,000 ball and went home, assuming it was actually a settlement vs. a severance deal, as reported by several news sources.
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You still care.
Doesn't matter if she is broke or not. He can get the truth extracted and her lies exposed.
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Willie Giest and Morning Joe had a great tribute to him this morning. set to music...
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That's the point!! All this mess was done to get him out of the race, no matter how false the accusations might be (and likely are, based on what rush, hannidy, and i have seen so far).
See Meg Whitman.
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He is moving up in my book. He has the right message, right tone, attacks obama, and has a dignified presence about him.
lmao
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lmao
Why did you even go and dredge up this thread again?? ;)..with threads like this no wonder soul crusher left ;D
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Why did you even go and dredge up this thread again?? ;)..with threads like this no wonder soul crusher left ;D
Yeah, doesn't 240 know the correct protocol is just to type "bump" on it for no apparent reason.
:D
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Yeah, doesn't 240 know the correct protocol is just to type "bump" on it for no apparent reason.
:D
can't believe this thread was 2011...time really flies
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Hmm...the awful stench that always seemed to permeate this board apparently has been eliminated.
I guess a little spring cleaning did the trick. :)