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Title: Mega Guess Who
Post by: onlyme on August 26, 2005, 03:11:30 AM
This thread will be dedicated to ONLY Guess Who pics.  We have allot of knowledgable people on this board.  This thread will test your memory and jog your memory at the same time.  The old-timers are the ones who paved the way for bodyuilding.

If you can find a "Now" pic of an old-timer please post.  In fact post a "now" pic and lets see if we can guess who it is and show how they have changed over the years

It was so much fun back then.  Not to knock today BB, but I think most of us agree that is was a whole lot funner and interesting back in the heyday.

Here are a couple fairly easy ones.  I remember talking with the first one on many occassions.  For months I never knew who is was.  When I found out,  it  was allot more memorable and interesting to talk to him.

Sorry if you guys think this is stupid.  I rather like the past a whole better than nowadays.  If you don't like it we can get rid of it.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: sarcasm on August 26, 2005, 08:49:54 AM
the black dude in the second pic looks like Leroy Colbert.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: JPM on August 26, 2005, 09:21:20 AM
First pic: Don't know but looks like an old Italian sand & sandel flick, probably late 50's earily-mid 60's.

Second pic: Nicky Adams (who killed himself). Mickey Hargaty (misspelled name big time) married to Jane Mansfeild and who's daughter is doing very well on L&O SVU. Gentleman on the right looks a lot like the great Joe Louis though I'm probably wrong.

Side bar: speaking of sand & sandel pic's anyone know what happened to Gordon Scott? He played Tarzan for awhile. Lot of the old timer BB'ing vet told me that he had a greater natural potentional than Steve Reeves. Seen old pic's of him and his shoulder width was something else. As was his deep rib box and small waist. They tell me he workout lighly & did a lot of swimming. An old guy I used to know said he saw him a lot around the Bert Goodrich gym in Hollywood before he got into the business.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: onlyme on August 26, 2005, 11:08:10 AM
Wow yes it's Joe Louis and Mickey.  I am really surprised you haven't figured out the first one.  Please everyone post some pics of some legends for us to guess.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Gary on August 26, 2005, 12:31:54 PM
Ist pic is Brad Harris
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: stuntmovie on August 26, 2005, 04:35:35 PM
Leroy Colbert ..... I believe I just ran into Leroy a few weeks ago. If it was him, he is owner/manager of a health food store just west a bit of Studio City about a mile or two west of the old Vince's Gym location.

I was in a rush to get back to the car which was illegally parked and intended to return for a short visit, but the opportunity to chat never arose again.

I am 99.9% sure it was Leroy. Anyone else know for certain?
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Bossa on August 26, 2005, 08:45:18 PM
Leroy Colbert ..... I believe I just ran into Leroy a few weeks ago. If it was him, he is owner/manager of a health food store just west a bit of Studio City about a mile or two west of the old Vince's Gym location.

I was in a rush to get back to the car which was illegally parked and intended to return for a short visit, but the opportunity to chat never arose again.

I am 99.9% sure it was Leroy. Anyone else know for certain?

If I am not mistaken he used to have ads in muscle and fitness with his pic and caption first man to build 20" arms....the ads were for his health food store, but don't remember where it was
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: 619Rules on August 26, 2005, 10:40:51 PM
Leroy Colbert ..... I believe I just ran into Leroy a few weeks ago. If it was him, he is owner/manager of a health food store just west a bit of Studio City about a mile or two west of the old Vince's Gym location.

I was in a rush to get back to the car which was illegally parked and intended to return for a short visit, but the opportunity to chat never arose again.

I am 99.9% sure it was Leroy. Anyone else know for certain?

I have heard that Leroy does have a health store in tat area-so you are right Stunt-now where is my muscle beach picture CD?

If I am not mistaken he used to have ads in muscle and fitness with his pic and caption first man to build 20" arms....the ads were for his health food store, but don't remember where it was

Leroy had massive guns in those ads. Him and Dave Draper back in the 60's and 70's ran Joe Weiders supplement/equipment warehouse together, they both worked for Joe in New jersey and both moved out to CA when Joe moved.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: onlyme on August 26, 2005, 11:01:19 PM
Okay who are these.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: JPM on August 27, 2005, 08:14:29 AM
Even though some people think all the brothers look alike I'm still going with Joe Lewis in the first set of pictures. Colbert had pretty near 21" arms and that gentleman would have a noticeable bulge in his arm sleeve which he doesn't. He is also older looking for a younger Colbert at that time. That looks like some old studio PR or pub setup photo selling something or somebody. So they get the actor, fitness guy and ex boxer together for a shoot.

In the second set of pic that would be Zabo on the bottom. Top guy I do not know though I want to say a guy named Brown from Orange county. Forgot his first name. Is it Arron?
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: onlyme on August 27, 2005, 12:00:20 PM
Yes it is Joe Louis the boxer with Mickey.  Yes that Zabo (Chief), no not Brown
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: onlyme on August 27, 2005, 03:50:02 PM
A couple of real oldies.  Anyone know any of these guys, from the heyday
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: JPM on August 27, 2005, 05:09:31 PM
Issac (spelled wrong?) Berger jerking the bar...former Olympic games lifter. I was told he most always  had sun glasses on like that other Olympic lifter Dave Ashman around Bergers time. Don't know the BB'er but he must be 75 years old now. No matter what year some women are still attractive.

Wait a minute isn't that a guy named Lentz or something like that?
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Bix on August 27, 2005, 05:38:42 PM
Here's a big  f   ker for ya .....
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: sarcasm on August 27, 2005, 07:24:05 PM
that dude has a hell of a build, looks like a jacked up version of the Rock.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: weedoutheweak on August 28, 2005, 06:34:32 PM
It's a young S.S.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Bix on August 29, 2005, 04:06:14 AM
It's a young S.S.

Who ia S.S. ?
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: 619Rules on August 29, 2005, 01:42:39 PM
guess who's, got any females?

Yes, females, but must have big boobies...... ::)
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Dan-O on August 29, 2005, 01:53:26 PM
Here's a big  f   ker for ya .....

That's J.S.  He was a big dude.  He competed mostly in NABBA, right?
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Bix on August 29, 2005, 06:01:22 PM
That's J.S.  He was a big dude.  He competed mostly in NABBA, right?

Yes that's JS and he competed in AAU, NPC and NABBA.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: littleguns on September 01, 2005, 01:33:38 PM
Old and Newer
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: knny187 on September 01, 2005, 06:24:49 PM
Old and Newer

before photo shop programs exsisted
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Tombo on September 01, 2005, 07:12:43 PM
obviously steve reeves.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Scimowser on September 04, 2005, 03:41:56 AM
is that a pic of Aaron Baker
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Scimowser on September 04, 2005, 03:44:09 AM
that bif Fker you said looks like the late , great Sonny Schmidt minus his moustache. Masters Olympia 1995
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: flexfan on September 05, 2005, 10:31:01 PM
is that a pic of Aaron Baker

Where?
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: onlyme on September 10, 2005, 07:33:00 PM
Anyone?
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Eric2 on September 10, 2005, 08:36:16 PM
That chick is Abbye " Pudgy" Stockton right? Also her husband Les recieving trophy and other guy is Armand Tanny?
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: 619Rules on September 10, 2005, 09:45:07 PM
That chick is Abbye " Pudgy" Stockton right? Also her husband Les recieving trophy and other guy is Armand Tanny?

Good call on the STockton's....can't verify if that is Tanny though....
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: 619Rules on September 11, 2005, 02:17:11 PM
yeah Pudgy Stockton was the only woman going back then.  Sort of a Babe Dickenson (sp) of muscle beach era.

Actually Pudgy was not the only woman on the Muscle Beach scene back then. She was one of the three most popular though-the others were Paul Unger and Relna Brewer. They all did acrobatics, which was the main thing in those days, with weight training coming in second.

Paula also had a older sister named Rosalie and the both were very popular in the 40's and 50's.

But Pudgy and Paula were the big cheese's though for their day.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: onlyme on September 11, 2005, 04:03:42 PM
The two people who got me into the original World Gym were close friends of Joe Gold and used to perform at Muscle Beach and train at Gold's Gym back in 1966-1970.  Rose and Dan Keller.  He was built really good for a guy in his low 50's back then when I knew them.  She was a stunning redhead with huge boobies and a really small waist.  I remembered seeing old pics of them on the wall.  They introduced me to Ron Depolito who I trained with at World's back in 79 to 81 or so.  He drove a pink convertible corvette and was a pimp who got the bodybuilders girls for parties and such.  He was a character.  Allot like Don Ross.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: sarcasm on September 11, 2005, 06:35:38 PM
do you have any stories about Don, Only?
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: onlyme on September 11, 2005, 07:37:25 PM
There are actually a few stories about Don on the Stories board.  Plus some pics of Don.  Around pages 3 thru 10 I think.  We did a Gillette commercial together in Puerto Rico where we shaved our heads.  He was a frickin wildman. 

I remember the Director asking me to settle Don down because Don insisted we have steak for lunch and refused to work another minute unless we got steak.  Well we finished the shoot very full.  Plus when we went out for lunch we had the guy shave our heads in weird patterns and all fucked up.  SO we really looked like wild crazy guys.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: njflex on September 11, 2005, 07:39:31 PM
The aau,nabba jacked up guy you were refering too was jerry scalesi or vince can't remember first name totally.most aau guy's from eighties to early ninetie's were all protege's off bob gruskin all had sick wheels,harrop,kutcurak,vic terra,king,dufrense.list goes on and on.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: onlyme on September 11, 2005, 11:32:43 PM
Vince Scalesi from Weider?
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: njflex on September 12, 2005, 08:18:17 PM
Took quick search at muscle memory i'm usually good at guess who anyway it's JERRY.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: stuntmovie on September 13, 2005, 12:23:27 PM
Can anyone name the exact date that Santa Monica Muscle Beach was "closed down"?

And the precise reason why the Santa Monica City Council made that decision to do so?

Would there still be records of that "decision" on file someplace?

Then how about the precise date that the "Pit" was open in Venice Beach? Who got that built, etc.

Thanks
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: 619Rules on September 13, 2005, 03:46:41 PM
Can anyone name the exact date that Santa Monica Muscle Beach was "closed down"?

And the precise reason why the Santa Monica City Council made that decision to do so?

Would there still be records of that "decision" on file someplace?

Then how about the precise date that the "Pit" was open in Venice Beach? Who got that built, etc.

Thanks

It is in the history thread stunt. I pulled all that info from Harold Zinkin's book and psted it already. Was closed down in December 1959 over a sex scandel with 4 BBer's and 2 underage girls.

They have pics of the Venice Muscle Pit in the book Pumping Iron-that book was copyrighted in 1975-so it was before then. They re-did the Venice Beach pit about 10 years ago though and it is much better than Arnold's day.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: onlyme on September 14, 2005, 11:47:44 AM
Finally
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: sarcasm on October 30, 2005, 08:41:51 AM
the second pic looks like George Turner a little bit.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: 619Rules on October 30, 2005, 01:27:41 PM
the second pic looks like George Turner a little bit.

That second photo was WAY ahead of it's time.....very cool....
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: crownshep on November 13, 2005, 09:28:14 AM
Here`s one for you.
I could give you some British guess who`s to really test your knowledge,if you want some let me know.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: crownshep on November 13, 2005, 09:32:28 AM
Here`s a few.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: onlyme on November 13, 2005, 11:49:07 AM
You guys must know who this is.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: tony b on November 13, 2005, 04:41:44 PM
Here`s one for you.
I could give you some British guess who`s to really test your knowledge,if you want some let me know.

Jocelyn P
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: 619Rules on November 14, 2005, 02:03:12 PM
Here`s a few.

That guy on the far right is huge!
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: crownshep on November 15, 2005, 01:35:45 AM
Don`t you remember these guys 619,the Czech team for the World Champs in the 70s,the guy you pointed out is Alois Pek.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Glowboy on November 15, 2005, 07:29:18 AM
Another excellent "Guess Who" Crownshep.  I believe one of the photos is of the great Rock Stonewall.  The Czech bodybuilders are Peter Stach, Robert Datlinger, and (I think) Libor Minarek.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: crownshep on November 15, 2005, 09:04:32 AM
Spot on with the guesses for the Czech team,heres one of Libor and those triceps.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Glowboy on November 21, 2005, 10:03:46 AM
     Crownshep, again, thanks for posting the great side triceps photo of
Libor Minarek.  Some time ago on another topic, there was a side tricep of Paul DeMayo posted.  I immediately remembered the Libor photo.  His tricep development and that photo always stood out to me.  In addition, when thinking of tricep development, I think of a photo of Larry Jackson.  I believe it was taken at the 1978 AAU Mr. America and reported in Muscle Training Illustrated.  I cannot remember (getting old) for certain, but
Larry Jackson had some memorable upper body development at that competition. 
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: crownshep on November 23, 2005, 08:01:22 AM
You`re spot on about Larrys upper body Glowboy.He was always so close to winning the big one.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: bmacsys on November 27, 2005, 04:20:28 PM
Don`t you remember these guys 619,the Czech team for the World Champs in the 70s,the guy you pointed out is Alois Pek.


I remember Alois Pek.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: stuntmovie on December 06, 2005, 12:38:51 PM
Here's another one. But this time, who is it and WHERE was it taken? .....

Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: 619Rules on December 06, 2005, 01:01:47 PM
Don't know who it is but it looks like it was taken on Mount Helix in San Diego County.

Definitly has a So Cal look to the desert/scrub scenery-might be AZ also.


Don`t you remember these guys 619,the Czech team for the World Champs in the 70s,the guy you pointed out is Alois Pek.


I dont know any of them-but they look good-especially for the time period!
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Bix on December 06, 2005, 05:26:18 PM
Here's another one. But this time, who is it and WHERE was it taken? .....



Ralph Kroger

(http://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/im/im3403.jpg) 


How the hell would anyone know where it was taken ? :(
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: 619Rules on December 06, 2005, 09:08:07 PM
Ralph Kroger

How the hell would anyone know where it was taken ? :(


I was right-that was Mount Helix in San Diego County-in La Mesa east of San Diego-So I knew where it was taken, but only b/c I live in the area.....Kroger also did a bunch of photo shoots at Mission Beach where I used to live and Onlyme shot the movie "Dangerous Curves" in 1987.............

Leo Stern also has a bunch of pics from Mission beach......
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: stuntmovie on December 08, 2005, 09:55:33 AM
Correct, that is Ralph Kroger.

Does anyone recall Ralph's little gym along the side of the Pacific Coast Highway back in the early 60's a few miles south of Oceanside?

Ralph closed that one up and opened another in Hilo, Hawaii which was not a real impressive place but he did business there for a good number of years until moving back to the mainland.

Any one have details on Ralph's life and whereabouts?
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: 619Rules on December 08, 2005, 10:34:58 AM
Correct, that is Ralph Kroger.

Does anyone recall Ralph's little gym along the side of the Pacific Coast Highway back in the early 60's a few miles south of Oceanside?

Ralph closed that one up and opened another in Hilo, Hawaii which was not a real impressive place but he did business there for a good number of years until moving back to the mainland.

Any one have details on Ralph's life and whereabouts?

I just did a search under his name-if he is 67 y/o then he is living in Cherokee, Iowa.........
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: stuntmovie on December 15, 2005, 02:23:00 AM
Sounds about right, Rules. He is probably a minister there today, but not positive about that.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Neve on December 24, 2005, 12:02:53 AM
Hello board
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: 619Rules on December 24, 2005, 05:05:54 PM
Hello board

Hello...Hello.....Hello-Hello....reminds me of the Three Stooges everytime I think of that!
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: Jay Em on January 18, 2006, 05:41:31 PM
Both are kinda simply for us older farts who read the Muscle mags of the era.

But I had to laugh at the early post that identified the black guy as Leroy Colbert.

First, Ab hanger designer Brad Harris w/hoe starlet. Second, Left to right,
actor Nick Adams (short, short guy), Mickey Haggerity and Leroy...I mean Joe
Louis.

I actually purchased an early athletic course (Bob Cousey, stars like that) who
endorsed this Sports Foundation training. Joe Louis was another one of their
prime stars. I got the first two courses, then quit, couldn't afford it (cheapie).

But, I wrote Joe Louis on the board, and he actually wrote me backand signed
his signature. I was a huge boxing fan and gave him some teenage adulation.
My parents threw my personal effects away when I joined the Corps. To this
day, I respectfully remind my mother of that.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: onlyme on January 18, 2006, 07:47:54 PM
I remember seeing Brad Harris for the first time.  In very good shape for an older man.  Really nice and talked to everyone.  I had no idea who he was.  The funny thing is that night I saw a movie and he was in it.  Then I found out he was actually a very well versed actor and quite popular.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: MrUniverse on March 24, 2006, 04:55:28 AM
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/callender/rc20.jpg)

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/callender/rc16.jpg)
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: MrUniverse on March 24, 2006, 04:59:14 AM
Guess who
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/wilson/sw67.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/wilson/sw38.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/wilson/sw55.jpg)
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: onlyme on March 24, 2006, 09:37:01 AM
Roy Callendar on top.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: knny187 on March 24, 2006, 10:35:17 AM
What's that guys name......Scott Wilson or something.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: tommywishbone on March 24, 2006, 07:58:23 PM
The group shot is... Scott Wilson, Bobsomebody?,  Lance Dreher & AS.
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: WorldGym2006 on March 24, 2006, 08:06:01 PM
What's that guys name......Scott Wilson or something.

Yeah-Scott Wilson.

Scott was on the Nautilus Paroll thanks to Arthur Jones in the late 70's, and then Ed, Tim and Grymko bought out Gold's in 79- and  in late 1980/early 81 Ed opened San Jose, right after he opened San Francisco Gold's and had Scott runing Gold's San Jose with Steve O' Brien........

Scott was like Aaron Baker-always under rated and never received the kind of placings he deserved....
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: MrUniverse on March 25, 2006, 09:35:56 AM
Yep Roy Callendar and underrated Scott Wilson.
Oke another one
(http://www.bk-sportsmag.se/artiklar/bilder/ett_lyft_i_traningen_01.jpg)
(http://www.bk-sportsmag.se/artiklar/bilder/ett_lyft_i_traningen_04.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/fuller/jf31.jpg)
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: will938 on March 30, 2006, 12:27:02 AM
The top one? no idea, middle one is David Dearth, bottom one Phil Hill?
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: wes on March 30, 2006, 04:27:27 AM
The bottom pic is Johnny Fuller !
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: GreatFinn on March 30, 2006, 11:44:53 AM
(http://www.jraty.com/Kuvat1980/mm_selka4.gif)(http://www.jraty.com/Kuvat1980/selkaiso.jpg)
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: wes on March 30, 2006, 01:55:18 PM
Top left is Janko Rudman !
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: MrUniverse on March 31, 2006, 04:38:12 AM
Phil Williams....http://www.musclememory.com/cgi-bin/search?name=Phil+Williams&gender=M
(http://www.bk-sportsmag.se/artiklar/bilder/ett_lyft_i_traningen_01.jpg)
Mats Kardell....http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=World+Amateur+Championships+-+IFBB&y=1988
(http://www.bk-sportsmag.se/artiklar/bilder/ett_lyft_i_traningen_04.jpg)
Johnny Fuller...http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=World+Amateur+Championships+-+IFBB&y=1980
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/fuller/jf31.jpg)
Title: Re: Mega Guess Who
Post by: GreatFinn on April 02, 2006, 01:53:10 PM
Top left is Janko Rudman !
Guy in the pictures is Jorma Räty, Finnish amateur world champion(Mister Universe) 1980.