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Title: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: theonlyone on March 24, 2011, 11:19:56 PM
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Date: Friday, 26-May-2006 17:14:21
What if...America is dead and we just don't know it???

The once great United States of America Inc.has now dropped to the 34th ranking country where one should live when considering issues such as: freedom/lifestyle/health/health care/entertainment/living standards/life expectancy/cost of living/education/crime/weather/etc...

Most Americans rarely travel abroad - and when they do they are increasingly unwelcome due to their government's inhumane foreign policy. Most Americans do not know that Canadians for example, trust the Chinese more than their once favourite brother, the great neighbour to the south. All Americans have been brainwashed since birth through the media, culture and the edcational system that America is the best country in the world to live in. Unfortunately it is a delusion that the American sheeple swallow like chili dogs. Pigs in their fecal-laden mud do not know the wonders of the world. Travel to the South American islands, to Hong Kong, St. Maarten, beyond the equator. Most of Europe is friendly and relatively non-toxic compared to the filth which engulfs most major U.S. cities.

Italy, Poland, Russia - all greet visitors as guests to their countries and are treated with respect. Unfortunately Americans are greeted with little respect do to their government's increasingly madness and brutality towards innocent, defenseless nations. Yet these facts are hidden from the corporate controlled media. The recently deceased honourable truth-seeker and investigative journalist Sherman Skolnik referred to the the media as "...the oil-soaked monopoly press.." The view of America from afar for many is that of an ugly octopus with slimy tentacles whose aim is to control, manipulate and disfigure governments, economies, currencies and military configurations into its favour.

The ugly slimy octopus which requires "human sacrifice", the sucking of cheap labour from third world countries, astronomical debt and confidence with the American people in it's Orwellian "Homeland" is about to come to an end. America has sold much of its assets off to foreign lands to forestall foreclosure on the inevitable, waged wars to distract the world and its "citizens" but the end is at hand. In fact it has arrived. Just as a spider's legs keep moving after they are cut off, that is what has happened to America, the great octopus.

America the Beautiful? America is dead and is in rigor mortise. The decaying corpse, shaking in its misery now borrows $1.8 billion each and every day to pay the interest on its debt. This amount equates to an incredible 80% of the rest of the world's entire day's savings! Yet the American sheeple are asleep to these facts. American Idol, CNN and '24' just don't mention these non-important facts. Keep the sheeple focused on illegal immigrunts and the increasing price of gas. The lie lives hence the economy is booming. As Dictator Bush said, "Go out and shop..." Walmart/Chinamart is run by the Chinese military. Chinamart now controls 8% of America's retail sales. How much longer can the American public even afford $30 dvd players to support the Chinese government when all that they get in return are U.S. notes which are basically notes of debt?

The jig is up... The collapse of America has been planned for many years. No voting for any party will make any difference. Americans are living in a fantasy world where they think that the party will just keep on going - and that the only problem is with their government. Simple economics does not enter the minds of the dumbed down, buttered turkey stuffed social security numbered owners of massive debt that cannot be repayed due to the massive Federal Reserve pyramid scheme fraud which creates money out of nothing.

The once great United States of America at one time held 3 years of grain in reserve for its citizens in case of a natural disaster. Don't worry, there is enough food in stores across the country to last the population now for 3 days. Hungry when the bottom drops? Time to fight for food. Did you throw away your Y2K food?

Illegal immigrants that do not belong in your country can gather 700,000 wetbacks to sway Congressional policy. American have become soft and fat. They wouldn't rally for anything unless they could drive their SUVs or pickups to a barbecue with free steaks.The poor Gringo has no idea of the power which our treasonous government has to trigger immediate havoc with respect to racial war with the already invaded army of Mexicans. Bush and Vincente Fox, an admitted Jew, have likely prepositioned those who believe parts of America belong to Mexico to ignite the "fire." Who will stand up to America and its foundation of being a Democratic Republic?

The treasonous government would love to impose martial law and watch the slaughter and chaos. From chaos comes order. Take a look at your dollar bill. As for Americans, a few would fight back, but most are conditioned to cower in fear and wait for FEMA to rescue them. Few understand that FEMA is designed to protect the President and the shadow government, only 10% of its funding is put towards disaster/emergency relief. Remember, you have to protect the speech reader/President just in case the sheeple wake up and realize that just maybe the corruption comes from the visible top. Unfortunately the real decision makers, the Bildeberg Group will be meeting in Ottawa, Canada on June 8.

Where are the Hippies of the 70's??? They are old and mostly satiated with wealth or looking after their grown up children. Where is the new rejuvenated generation which recognizes the fascist regime that has taken over our government? Well, the planned Communistic dumbing down of the public system has worked wonders. A generation of youth/young adults have been poisoned with over 30 vaccinations, 1,000's of diet sodas containing aspartame, food laced with excitotoxins and water complete with all the fluoride Nazis used to make concentration camp occupants compliant.

Americans, get out while you can... because they will chip you like animals and dispose of you and or let you starve.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=89088


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 24, 2011, 11:59:22 PM
 Without s single shot fired at you, without one!!! Fuck yeah!


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: loco on March 25, 2011, 04:06:43 AM
Without s single shot fired at you, without one!!! Fuck yeah!

theonlyone,

Is the USA your enemy?  Jesus commands you to love your enemies, to pray for them and to wish them well.    :)


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 25, 2011, 04:37:36 AM
theonlyone,

Is the USA your enemy?  Jesus commands you to love your enemies, to pray for them and to wish them well.    :)

 I do love American people and wish them all the well in the world!

 “It is not possible to eat me without insisting that I sing praises of my devourer?” —Fyodor Dostoevsky

 


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2011, 07:47:22 AM
theonlyone,

Is the USA your enemy?  Jesus commands you to love your enemies, to pray for them and to wish them well.    :)

Jesus also said by way of the WORD which is the HOLY BIBLE that you should not MURDER, COVET, BARE FALSE WITNESS!!! Yet america does all continuously...even as I speak. Do you think you will go UNPUNISHED forever? Did not the people of Sodom and Gomorra pay a terrible price, Did not the Assyrians, the Persians, the Medes, the Babylonians, the Egyptians pay too!!!!

Who or what the hell do you think american is that is is not going to receive FAR WORST than these former empires, after having done worst than all of them together?

Say BYE BYE to the world...hope you enjoyed your stay...now it is time to pay for the damages you incurred.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Skip8282 on March 25, 2011, 09:39:58 AM
Jesus also said by way of the WORD which is the HOLY BIBLE that you should not MURDER, COVET, BARE FALSE WITNESS!!! Yet america does all continuously...even as I speak. Do you think you will go UNPUNISHED forever? Did not the people of Sodom and Gomorra pay a terrible price, Did not the Assyrians, the Persians, the Medes, the Babylonians, the Egyptians pay too!!!!

Who or what the hell do you think american is that is is not going to receive FAR WORST than these former empires, after having done worst than all of them together?

Say BYE BYE to the world...hope you enjoyed your stay...now it is time to pay for the damages you incurred.




HA, you and onlygay will be rotting clumps of shit before this great country goes anywhere.  Wallow in jealousy you pathetic morons.  We rule!!


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 25, 2011, 09:44:06 AM

HA, you and onlygay will be rotting clumps of shit before this great country goes anywhere.  Wallow in jealousy you pathetic morons.  We rule!!

How sad an pathetic these Hater Troll gimmicks can be.  One is stuck in Russia trying to hide from the tax police, while the other was raped by a NYPD Officer.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: loco on March 25, 2011, 09:46:39 AM
Jesus also said by way of the WORD which is the HOLY BIBLE that you should not MURDER, COVET, BARE FALSE WITNESS!!! Yet america does all continuously...even as I speak. Do you think you will go UNPUNISHED forever? Did not the people of Sodom and Gomorra pay a terrible price, Did not the Assyrians, the Persians, the Medes, the Babylonians, the Egyptians pay too!!!!

Who or what the hell do you think american is that is is not going to receive FAR WORST than these former empires, after having done worst than all of them together?

Say BYE BYE to the world...hope you enjoyed your stay...now it is time to pay for the damages you incurred.

 ::)

So you think God will destroy the entire continent, including South America?

Did God not send angels to rescue Lot and his family from Sodom and Gomorrah?

Am I afraid to die?  No.  

You sound like a whiny, bitter anti-American, anti-Semite.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 25, 2011, 09:58:58 AM
::)

So you think God will destroy the entire continent, including South America?

Did God not send angels to rescue Lot and his family from Sodom and Gomorrah?

Am I afraid to die?  No.  

You sound like a whiny, bitter anti-American, anti-Semite.

 Mega earth quake is possible. The problem America haven't come into the world with the new ideas, one is not afraid to die for ideas, you got nothing! Seriously
 As Samson said
 Say BYE BYE to the world...hope you enjoyed your stay...now it is time to pay for the damages you incurred.

 


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2011, 09:59:28 AM



HA, you and onlygay will be rotting clumps of shit before this great country goes anywhere.  Wallow in jealousy you pathetic morons.  We rule!!

The HA is on you, just as history has shown all nations that have risen to the heights of wickedness like america have all had the same attitude and opinion...WE WILL NEVER GO DOWN. Go to Rome today and look at that pathetic slime calling itself Italians now. arguing over pasta and pizza...two foods that are NOT indigenous to europe at all. Prior to as ROMANS they thought their empire would last forever.

Take a trip east to GREECE...another former empire that thought it would be around forever ...now they spend their day eating octopus and depending on tourist to come to their nation to look at the RUINS of what their former empire once was.

Travel west to PORTUGAL once a might sea fearing empire, now it is the POOREST nation in Europe. So poor that a person quickly forgets it is even in europe.

SPAIN ANYONE?..Did not the Spaniards cause much distress to the Americas and its people in its time...Today all it can do is make OLIVE OIL.

FRANCE another nation that has fallen flat on its face.

I can go on and on, but you get the point. Empires come and go and america is already gone. Just like the simple minded Italians today pretending to be tough as they believe the Romans once were...america is doing the same thing..attacking small , military-less countries that offer no real resistance to feel MANLY/MACHO/POWERFUL. COWARD!!! THAT IS WHAT AMERIC IS AT BEST and now the whole world knows it.

But you can continue supporting the FALLEN NATION of america....it won't belong now before you are looking at the RUINS OF WHAT ONCE WAS


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Kazan on March 25, 2011, 10:00:55 AM
Mega earth quake is possible. The problem America haven't come into the world with the new ideas, one is not afraid to die for ideas, you got nothing! Seriously
 As Samson said
 Say BYE BYE to the world...hope you enjoyed your stay...now it is time to pay for the damages you incurred.

 

Well when will Russia pay the damage that it has caused to Eastern Europe? Or the genocide in the Ukraine? Those whole live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Kazan on March 25, 2011, 10:02:22 AM
The HA is on you, just as history has shown all nations that have risen to the heights of wickedness like america have all had the same attitude and opinion...WE WILL NEVER GO DOWN. Go to Rome today and look at that pathetic slime calling itself Italians now. arguing over pasta and pizza...two foods that are NOT indigenous to europe at all. Prior to as ROMANS they thought their empire would last forever.

Take a trip east to GREECE...another former empire that thought it would be around forever ...now they spend their day eating octopus and depending on tourist to come to their nation to look at the RUINS of what their former empire once was.

Travel west to PORTUGAL once a might sea fearing empire, now it is the POOREST nation in Europe. So poor that a person quickly forgets it is even in europe.

SPAIN ANYONE?..Did not the Spaniards cause much distress to the Americas and its people in its time...Today all it can do is make OLIVE OIL.

FRANCE another nation that has fallen flat on its face.

I can go on and on, but you get the point. Empires come and go and america is already gone. Just like the simple minded Italians today pretending to be tough as they believe the Romans once were...america is doing the same thing..attacking small , military-less countries that offer no real resistance to feel MANLY/MACHO/POWERFUL. COWARD!!! THAT IS WHAT AMERIC IS AT BEST and now the whole world knows it.

But you can continue supporting the FALLEN NATION of america....it won't belong now before you are looking at the RUINS OF WHAT ONCE WAS

That's OK we have something the others didn't, nuclear weapons.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: loco on March 25, 2011, 10:13:30 AM
Mega earth quake is possible. The problem America haven't come into the world with the new ideas, one is not afraid to die for ideas, you got nothing! Seriously
 As Samson said
 Say BYE BYE to the world...hope you enjoyed your stay...now it is time to pay for the damages you incurred.

 

The damages I incurred?   ???


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2011, 10:16:23 AM
Quote
author=loco link=topic=370739.msg5260687#msg5260687 date=1301075199]
 ::)

So you think God will destroy the entire continent, including South America?

Didi not GOD flood the whole world saving only Noah adn his family?

Quote
Did God not send angels to rescue Lot and his family from Sodom and Gomorrah?

Yes GOD saved Lot and his family, but he did NOT save Sodom and Gomorrah...America is Sodom and Gommorah and from it will be saved only those who GOD deems worthy as Lot adn Noah were. Sp prepare for america to perish.

Quote
Am I afraid to die?  No.
 

Of course you are, else you would not be worrying about america and what will soon happen to it. In your mind you are afraid of what kind of life you will have once america is no more.

Quote
You sound like a whiny, bitter anti-American, anti-Semite.

You sound like someone who has never picked up the Bible and has no clue about the prophecies to come to america. You should read Matthew and Revelations both reveal the END OF AMERICA AND HOW IT WILL HAPPEN.

BTW using the term antisemite does not work with me...it has been the "TRICK" of those like yourselves in order to have your way. Well the gig is now up and that effort falls on you(rs) like the house on the wicked witch


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: loco on March 25, 2011, 10:18:16 AM
Didi not GOD flood the whole world saving only Noah adn his family?

Yes GOD saved Lot and his family, but he did NOT save Sodom and Gomorrah...America is Sodom and Gommorah and from it will be saved only those who GOD deems worthy as Lot adn Noah were. Sp prepare for america to perish.
  

Of course you are, else you would not be worrying about america and what will soon happen to it. In your mind you are afraid of what kind of life you will have once america is no more.

You sound like someone who has never picked up the Bible and has no clue about the prophecies to come to america. You should read Matthew and Revelations both reveal the END OF AMERICA AND HOW IT WILL HAPPEN.

BTW using the term antisemite does not work with me...it has been the "TRICK" of those like yourselves in order to have your way. Well the gig is now up and that effort falls on you(rs) like the house on the wicked witch


LOL

SAMSON123, you are one funny anti-Semite!    :)


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Kazan on March 25, 2011, 10:20:32 AM
LOL

Exactly the Bible never mentions America, more CT crap from Canadian Crap chucker

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Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2011, 10:22:49 AM
That's OK we have something the others didn't, nuclear weapons.

You have just proven the point I just made about empires and their arrogance an feeling of superiority...you think nuclear bombs will save you??? The whole world is pretty much nuclear armed now...that is why COWARD america picks on little Middle Eastern nations and African nations that do NOT have weapons. Notice how fast coward america backed away from Korea when it detonated a nuclear bomb showing it was ready to use it on america if necessary.

Just accept what is coming fast upon you...and that is YOUR END. At that time there will be peace on the planet and the "PROBLEM" of the planet (america if you haven't figured it out) will be no more.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Kazan on March 25, 2011, 10:24:15 AM
You have just proven the point I just made about empires and their arrogance an feeling of superiority...you think nuclear bombs will save you??? The whole world is pretty much nuclear armed now...that is why COWARD america picks on little Middle Eastern nations and African nations that do NOT have weapons. Notice how fast coward america backed away from Korea when it detonated a nuclear bomb showing it was ready to use it on america if necessary.

Just accept what is coming fast upon you...and that is YOUR END. At that time there will be peace on the planet and the "PROBLEM" of the planet (america if you haven't figured it out) will be no more.

Whatever freak show, America is always the problem ::)


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2011, 10:26:35 AM
LOL

SAMSON123, you are one funny anti-Semite!    :)

HAHAha

The truth has scared the gefilthe fish outta ya hasn't it??? Such is the fear of the DEVIL who thinks he will be in rulership forever...NOT. You have been tricked, you should not have sacrificed your soul for so little you have gained and even that is being wrenched out of your hands.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Kazan on March 25, 2011, 10:27:38 AM
HAHAha

The truth has scared the gefilthe fish outta ya hasn't it??? Such is the fear of the DEVIL who thinks he will be in rulership forever...NOT. You have been tricked, you should not have sacrificed your soul for so little you have gained and even that is being wrenched out of your hands.

WTF are babbling about you goofy bitch


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: loco on March 25, 2011, 10:29:00 AM
HAHAha

The truth has scared the gefilthe fish outta ya hasn't it??? Such is the fear of the DEVIL who thinks he will be in rulership forever...NOT. You have been tricked, you should not have sacrificed your soul for so little you have gained and even that is being wrenched out of your hands.

I'm Venezuelan, you goofy anti-Semite.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2011, 10:39:57 AM
Whatever freak show, America is always the problem ::)

YES IT IS and I wish you would stop trying to deny it and come to accept it. This was CHANGE can really come to your shores.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2011, 10:42:14 AM
I'm Venezuelan, you goofy anti-Semite.

Venezuelan like American is a NATIONALITY...it is NOT a race or religion you foolish DEVIL


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Kazan on March 25, 2011, 10:42:36 AM
YES IT IS and I wish you would stop trying to deny it and come to accept it. This was CHANGE can really come to your shores.

You are so ignorant of world history its scary, go back to the fucking CT board where you belong. Starting to think you watch Red Dawn one to many times.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Fury on March 25, 2011, 10:44:10 AM

You sound like someone who has never picked up the Bible and has no clue about the prophecies to come to america. You should read Matthew and Revelations both reveal the END OF AMERICA AND HOW IT WILL HAPPEN.


A Muslim who worships Farrakhan is quoting biblical passages to make some stupid point. Now I've seen it all.  ::)


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 25, 2011, 11:14:26 AM
"Oh please oh please God destroy evil America..."


Hahahaahahahahahaahahaha hah


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 25, 2011, 11:17:49 AM
"Oh please oh please God destroy evil America..."


Hahahaahahahahahaahahaha hah

 I'm suggesting you to read - the idiot or the devils/the possesssed by Dostoevsky. You are perfect example, though a moderator on getbig


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 25, 2011, 11:18:24 AM
The damages I incurred?   ???

 No, not you


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 25, 2011, 11:21:16 AM
Well when will Russia pay the damage that it has caused to Eastern Europe? Or the genocide in the Ukraine? Those whole live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

 Ukraine is our brothers in blood. Ukraine, Belarus and their big brother Russia are all Slavic bothers! It were hard times in Russia during 1920 well yawn 1960 in Russia too, should Russia pay the damage to us???? Where the fuck your house keepers or whatever u called it....


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 25, 2011, 11:26:07 AM
I'm suggesting you to read - the idiot or the devils/the possesssed by Dostoevsky. You are perfect example, though a moderator on getbig

I'm am suggesting you make sure yiu are caught up on your payments to your local Russian mafia boss.  At the same time maybe your country can start genetically engineering a race of midgets to fit into your new tank.  That way you can finally defeat the lilliputians.

Actually, you and Sammy can start a " I hate America and the policeman that raped me never called me back" web site and get donations.  Then you can take those donations pay off the tax police. 


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Kazan on March 25, 2011, 11:27:21 AM
Ukraine is our brothers in blood. Ukraine, Belarus and their big brother Russia are all Slavic bothers! It were hard times in Russia during 1920 well yawn 1960 in Russia too, should Russia pay the damage to us???? Where the fuck your house keepers or whatever u called it....

Try to make some sense, so the Ukraine are you blood brothers, guess that makes it OK to starve to death 10 million to death over the period of a year? You don't even know what happened in your own country do you?


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 25, 2011, 11:29:17 AM
Ukraine is our brothers in blood. Ukraine, Belarus and their big brother Russia are all Slavic bothers! It were hard times in Russia during 1920 well yawn 1960 in Russia too, should Russia pay the damage to us???? Where the fuck your house keepers or whatever u called it....
Stop sucking vodka dick you dumb ass, Ukraine couldn't wait to break away from your stupid commy union.  They hated Russia so bad they cheered when the Germans invaded and captured it's cities.  Lucky for you the Germans were dumber than Russians.  

Russia is a charity.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 25, 2011, 11:29:50 AM
I'm am suggesting you make sure yiu are caught up on your payments to your local Russian mafia boss.  At the same time maybe your country can start genetically engineering a race of midgets to fit into your new tank.  That way you can finally defeat the lilliputians.

Actually, you and Sammy can start a " I hate America and the policeman that raped me never called me back" web site and get donations.  Then you can take those donations pay off the tax police. 


 Sell your fables to Hollywood. No hate, nothing to appreciate...


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Kazan on March 25, 2011, 11:31:03 AM
Stop sucking vodka dick you dumb ass, Ukraine couldn't wait to break away from your stupid commy union.  They hated Russia so bad they cheered when the Germans invaded and captured it's cities.  Lucky for you the Germans were dumber than Russians.  

Russia is a charity.

LOL, funny but true, if the Nazi's weren't on their racial purity kick, the Ukraine would have fought with Gremany against Russia.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 25, 2011, 11:31:17 AM
Stop sucking vodka dick you dumb ass, Ukraine couldn't wait to break away from your stupid commy union.  They hated Russia so bad they cheered when the Germans invaded and captured it's cities.  Lucky for you the Germans were dumber than Russians.  

Russia is a charity.

 You're spot on, I sucked beer. Tomorrow! Don't change my words in posts, be the man. Chill!


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 25, 2011, 11:32:19 AM
Sell your fables to Hollywood. No hate, nothing to appreciate...

Yeah, your vodka induce blabbering isn't even worthy of a B movie.  

And you know very what I am talking about when it comes to shit hole county you live in as you have to pay off tax police and gang bosses.  


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Fury on March 25, 2011, 11:33:24 AM
Ukraine is our brothers in blood. Ukraine, Belarus and their big brother Russia are all Slavic bothers! It were hard times in Russia during 1920 well yawn 1960 in Russia too, should Russia pay the damage to us???? Where the fuck your house keepers or whatever u called it....

What are you rambling on about? Ukrainians still hate Russians. Belarus is a fucking dump ruled by a soviet-installed dictator and a brutal oppressor of human rights.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 25, 2011, 11:34:28 AM
You're spot on, I sucked beer. Tomorrow! Don't change my words in posts, be the man. Chill!

I didn't change your words in your dumb ass post.  

And I am spot on, so don't think your russian bull shit is gonna fly here midget.  


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 25, 2011, 11:45:16 AM
Speaking of drinking beer....

No wonder why, among other things such the mere fact that Russia sucks a mule's ass that Alcoholism runs rampant in your country.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/8342920/Beer-to-be-classified-as-alcohol-for-first-time-in-Russia.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/8342920/Beer-to-be-classified-as-alcohol-for-first-time-in-Russia.html)

Beer to be classified as alcohol for first time in Russia


The beverage is technically classified as a foodstuff for now, an anomaly that has allowed producers to avoid a sweeping new crackdown on alcohol advertising and night-time sales.

But a new Kremlin-backed bill that passed its first reading in the lower house of the Russian parliament on Tuesday will abolish beer's special status, dragging Russian alcohol regulation into the 21st century.

"Normalising the beer production market and classifying it as alcohol is totally the right thing to do and will boost the health of our population," Yevgeny Bryun, the ministry of health's chief specialist on alcohol and drug abuse, said.

"We have been talking about and have wanted such a measure for ages. I take my hat off to the parliament."

The new law would restrict beer sales at night, ban its sale in or close to many public places such as schools, and limit cans and bottles to a maximum size of 0.33 litres.


Although vodka, the national tipple, remains extremely popular, Russia's beer consumption has more than tripled in the past 15 years, boosted by low prices, ready availability and lax regulation.

Industry sources say Russia is now the third or the fourth biggest beer market in the world by net consumption after China and the United States. But with a historic penchant for strong spirits such as vodka, many ordinary Russians regard beer as a soft drink. It is not uncommon to see men swigging a can of beer on their way to work or teenagers downing a swift lunchtime beer or two in the park.

The Kremlin is concerned that alcoholism and under age drinking in particular have taken on epidemic proportions however.

Regularly rated among the heaviest five drinkers in the world, the Kremlin estimates that Russians consume 32 pints of pure alcohol per capita per year, more than double the World Health Organisation's recommended maximum. This appears to have seriously dented population growth.

Russia's population fell by 6.4 million between 1991 and 2009 and the federal statistics agency has predicted that it could fall to less than 127 million from just under 142 million now by 2031 in a worst-case scenario.

Meanwhile, Russian officials estimate that 500,000 people die for alcohol-related reasons every year, a state of affairs that has prompted President Dmitry Medvedev to declare the country's drinking problem "a national disaster".


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: loco on March 25, 2011, 11:46:11 AM
Venezuelan like American is a NATIONALITY...it is NOT a race or religion you foolish DEVIL

No, you goofy anti-Semite.  Venezuela is a country in South America.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2011, 12:53:13 PM
No, you goofy anti-Semite.  Venezuela is a country in South America.

Huh?...What does that have to do with the price of cheese in China?

BTW you mean goofy ANTI-KHARZARITE...right? Kharzar is what you racially are...you're not a REAL VENEZUELAN...just in nationality.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2011, 01:42:04 PM
Stalin was a jew who was responsible for the death of millions of Ukrainians

http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/StalinTheJew.htm

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-stalin.html

The killing of millions of Ukrainians by this Kharzar jew Stalin, was documented in a movie called HARVEST OF DESPAIR (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3897393411603039499#)

Just as today's Kharzar who calls himself a jew, kills the Palestinians with the goal of making a homeland for themselves at the sacrifice of others...just as they did in the Ukraine. A virus that usurps and overtakes the host till the host dies.

Now in america it does the same, war after war, corruption after corruption, banking scandal after banking scandal, depression after depression until a nation is destroyed and then they move onto another nation. Now their goal is to destroy and seize the oil in the Middle East, resources in South America and Africa and through their greed and ignorance lay the whole world waste.

There you are america catering to the enemy of your nation who is wreaking havoc from within. It won't be long now.




Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: Skip8282 on March 25, 2011, 02:00:59 PM
Stalin was a jew who was responsible for the death of millions of Ukrainians

http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/StalinTheJew.htm

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-stalin.html

The killing of millions of Ukrainians by this Kharzar jew Stalin, was documented in a movie called HARVEST OF DESPAIR (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3897393411603039499#)

Just as today's Kharzar who calls himself a jew, kills the Palestinians with the goal of making a homeland for themselves at the sacrifice of others...just as they did in the Ukraine. A virus that usurps and overtakes the host till the host dies.

Now in america it does the same, war after war, corruption after corruption, banking scandal after banking scandal, depression after depression until a nation is destroyed and then they move onto another nation. Now their goal is to destroy and seize the oil in the Middle East, resources in South America and Africa and through their greed and ignorance lay the whole world waste.

There you are america catering to the enemy of your nation who is wreaking havoc from within. It won't be long now.






Won't be long now?  Your dumb ass has been predicting our demise for how long now?  I thought Copenhagen was supposed to be the end?  Remember retard?  That was your prediction.

By the way, been watching all the fantastic things this great, strong, and powerful country has been doing for Japan?  Ha, and what's your little shithole nation doing?  Probably like you, they're sitting around crying and envying how wonderful America is.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: OzmO on March 25, 2011, 02:56:13 PM
Predicting?  She's been praying:

"Oh please, oh please God, Alah, Buddah,....anyone please destroy America"


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Hugo Chavez on March 25, 2011, 04:10:04 PM
Exactly the Bible never mentions America, more CT crap from Canadian Crap chucker

He means the first edition of the bible.  You have an incomplete copy. :D Samson has youtube videos to prove this!!!  watchout!!!


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 26, 2011, 01:16:53 AM
I didn't change your words in your dumb ass post.  

And I am spot on, so don't think your russian bull shit is gonna fly here midget.  
Who the hell are you to say me the Russian what to do? Isn't it you were going to visit Russia this April??? Never would ever an American tell me what to do. Never it been, never it ever happen... You are an American. No body likes America, no body!


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Hugo Chavez on March 26, 2011, 01:25:48 AM
Who the hell are you to say me the Russian what to do? Isn't it you were going to visit Russia this April??? Never would ever an American tell me what to do. Never it been, never it ever happen... You are an American. No body likes America, no body!
If you don't like America, what the fuck are you doing on this board?  LOL, mr. keyboard warrior, now you'd kick the shit out of any American huh?  Get the fuck off this board you lame ass gimmick.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 26, 2011, 01:44:28 AM
If you don't like America, what the fuck are you doing on this board?  LOL, mr. keyboard warrior, now you'd kick the shit out of any American huh?  Get the fuck off this board you lame ass gimmick.

 Learn some English

 Get the????? the the the the? why you say the???

 grow some balls and accept that America is hated everywhere and you're gone!


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: theonlyone on March 26, 2011, 02:00:34 AM
 And you will have your children grow in America!!! Perfect!!!!



 Latin Americans make up the largest diaspora according to a recent report by the United States Bureau of the Census, Mexican news agencies reported on Saturday.

According to the recent census, 50.5 million Latin Americans live in the United States with an overall population of 308.7 million.

The Census Bureau said in its report that the number of Latin Americans residing in the United States has increased 43% over the last few decades and has outnumbered the second largest "non-white" group of 42 million Afro-Americans.

Mexican media reports estimate that if this tendency continues, then the white population in the United States, which currently stands at 196.8 million, will become a minority group within 30 years.

The census shows that most Latin Americans come from Mexico, Cuba and Nicaragua.

source http://tlt.ru/


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: theonlyone on March 26, 2011, 03:05:59 AM
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Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: theonlyone on March 26, 2011, 03:23:39 AM
 Ghetto


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Hugo Chavez on March 26, 2011, 04:56:43 AM
Learn some English

 Get the????? the the the the? why you say the???

 grow some balls and accept that America is hated everywhere and you're gone!
you fucking tard, there is nothing wrong with what I wrote.  It's your shit that's hard to read here.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 26, 2011, 05:46:19 AM
you fucking tard, there is nothing wrong with what I wrote.  It's your shit that's hard to read here.

 I'm suggesting you to take an English class. You suck at English! The only words you know are - the, shit and fucking...


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 26, 2011, 07:43:28 AM
Who the hell are you to say me the Russian what to do? Isn't it you were going to visit Russia this April??? Never would ever an American tell me what to do. Never it been, never it ever happen... You are an American. No body likes America, no body!
Not true,  Russians love American business in there,  and you do exactly what we tell you punk bitch Russian.  Just as we told to fall apart in 1991.  No we tell you how to do business.

I know what goes there,  I have friends who live there 6-9 months a year.  So you can't bull shit here to much.   ;D


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: OzmO on March 26, 2011, 07:45:13 AM
So now you are spammin posters?  How weak are you?  Typical Russian with their force ratio tactics hahahahaha.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Hugo Chavez on March 26, 2011, 08:25:56 AM
I'm suggesting you to take an English class. You suck at English! The only words you know are - the, shit and fucking...
Yes it's true, I am THE SHIT and do a lot Fucking... :D


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 26, 2011, 09:29:37 AM
Not true,  Russians love American business in there,  and you do exactly what we tell you punk bitch Russian.  Just as we told to fall apart in 1991.  No we tell you how to do business.

I know what goes there,  I have friends who live there 6-9 months a year.  So you can't bull shit here to much.   ;D

 Russians love to have Americans invest money only for then scam them and fool!
 You wouldn't last long with that attitude in Russia, just wouldn't. Watch your mouth when you come to Russia...You simpleton American


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 26, 2011, 10:04:56 AM
Yes it's true, I am THE SHIT and do a lot Fucking... :D

 You're the fucking shit
 Hope this helps


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 26, 2011, 10:40:07 AM
Russians love to have Americans invest money only for then scam them and fool!
 You wouldn't last long with that attitude in Russia, just wouldn't. Watch your mouth when you come to Russia...You simpleton American

I don't have to watch my mouth, my money watches it for me and my Russian lap dogs are happy to submit.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: andreisdaman on March 26, 2011, 10:55:15 AM
Without s single shot fired at you, without one!!! Fuck yeah!


 We already defeated Russia without a single shot being fired......read your history


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 26, 2011, 10:55:35 AM
I don't have to watch my mouth, my money watches it for me and my Russian lap dogs are happy to submit.

 Is that your argument for the Russian racketeers? Pray God it didn't happen


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: andreisdaman on March 26, 2011, 11:02:03 AM
Ukraine is our brothers in blood. Ukraine, Belarus and their big brother Russia are all Slavic bothers! It were hard times in Russia during 1920 well yawn 1960 in Russia too, should Russia pay the damage to us???? Where the fuck your house keepers or whatever u called it....


thats why they all left your ass the first chance they got huh?


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 26, 2011, 11:34:15 AM

thats why they all left your ass the first chance they got huh?

 All that Russian/Ukraine theater is to fool American mind, invest the money wrong and lose, long run baby, long run. No body cares for US


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: theonlyone on March 26, 2011, 11:53:28 AM
 You all seem like quite from the different universe the mods and black clown that there are


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 26, 2011, 01:17:40 PM
Is that your argument for the Russian racketeers? Pray God it didn't happen
It's no argument, it's just the way it is in your little garden of lap dogs.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 26, 2011, 01:48:03 PM
It's no argument, it's just the way it is in your little garden of lap dogs.

 Russia is the biggest garden of alpha male dogs. It's Russia, what is your play Yankee? Facts!

 Now I take a bet! You'll not post pics of your fat ass in Russia, you were going to visit this April. You take a bet? You are a Yankee that has no balls! You're no champion baby, school some Russian in Russia! Upload your video on youtube!


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 26, 2011, 04:52:32 PM
Russia is the biggest garden of alpha male dogs. It's Russia, what is your play Yankee? Facts!

 Now I take a bet! You'll not post pics of your fat ass in Russia, you were going to visit this April. You take a bet? You are a Yankee that has no balls! You're no champion baby, school some Russian in Russia! Upload your video on youtube!
Hahahaah sounds like a mini melt down.  Touch a nerve eh?  Lol.

I told you your bull shit don't fly here, I got contacts in Russia, they tell me what's really up. And I was gonna visit in March not AprIl. 


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 26, 2011, 11:02:12 PM
Hahahaah sounds like a mini melt down.  Touch a nerve eh?  Lol.

I told you your bull shit don't fly here, I got contacts in Russia, they tell me what's really up. And I was gonna visit in March not AprIl. 

 You got contacts of some American losers in Russia, who don't belong to the country like the Great Russia is not for 1 %???? You didn't touch a nerve nor you can't control flying shit, it is that you can't take a blow. Your bubble soup country is exactly like your shit that fly from your mouth...

 Ozmo. When you visit Russia then? We can play presidents - everybody control shit that is flying but are ok on camera....


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 27, 2011, 08:03:53 AM
You got contacts of some American losers in Russia, who don't belong to the country like the Great Russia is not for 1 %???? You didn't touch a nerve nor you can't control flying shit, it is that you can't take a blow. Your bubble soup country is exactly like your shit that fly from your mouth...

 Ozmo. When you visit Russia then? We can play presidents - everybody control shit that is flying but are ok on camera....

Actually they are getting real good money to work there, teaching Russians about business.

As for the rest fo what you said.....  Seems like gibberish, maybe you should ask Hugo how to say it in proper English.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 27, 2011, 08:37:00 AM
Actually they are getting real good money to work there, teaching Russians about business.

As for the rest fo what you said.....  Seems like gibberish, maybe you should ask Hugo how to say it in proper English.

 I don't buy it! It's Russians do their big time business, pay real good money to Americans only then to collect more from the Russians who pay for the seminars of something...

 "There are two woes in Russia - fools and roads!" That is a Russian saying.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 27, 2011, 08:50:44 AM
I don't buy it! It's Russians do their big time business, pay real good money to Americans only then to collect more from the Russians who pay for the seminars of something...

 "There are two woes in Russia - fools and roads!" That is a Russian saying.
sorry your second sentence doesn't make much sense other than to agree with what I told you earlier.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 27, 2011, 09:10:54 AM
sorry your second sentence doesn't make much sense other than to agree with what I told you earlier.

 You shouldn't have to be sorry, Life has else punished you, since you are an American

 Yes that is a Russian saying, not American. Russian saying and can be only exchanged between Russians to have a good laugh. You are a Yankee and need to pay money for having it used unless you want video which are plenty of those on youtube when Russians make clowns out of Americans...


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 27, 2011, 09:29:43 AM
You shouldn't have to be sorry, Life has else punished you, since you are an American

 Yes that is a Russian saying, not American. Russian saying and can be only exchanged between Russians to have a good laugh. You are a Yankee and need to pay money for having it used unless you want video which are plenty of those on youtube when Russians make clowns out of Americans...

When you end a series of words with a "!" it means it's a sentence.  So, "I don't buy it!" is your first sentence.  Go back and re- read then re- type your second sentence so it makes sense.  Or better yet go back to school and learn the language of the country that beat you with out firing a single shot so that when you post here you make sense.


And I was being sorry for you.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 27, 2011, 09:59:02 AM
When you end a series of words with a "!" it means it's a sentence.  So, "I don't buy it!" is your first sentence.  Go back and re- read then re- type your second sentence so it makes sense.  Or better yet go back to school and learn the language of the country that beat you with out firing a single shot so that when you post here you make sense.


And I was being sorry for you.


Russians have Russian, Americans don't have their own language. There is no American language. You suck, nothing to be proud of.
 Obama is a KGB agent! Nice! Not only that but overall - AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS with out firing a sinlge shot at you....
 America is a land of Latinos and black people! Nothing to be proud of.


 I'm being sorry for you! For your country that was a big experiment that has failed!


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: andreisdaman on March 27, 2011, 10:11:26 AM

Russians have Russian, Americans don't have their own language. There is no American language. You suck, nothing to be proud of.
 Obama is a KGB agent! Nice! Not only that but overall - AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS with out firing a sinlge shot at you....
 America is a land of Latinos and black people! Nothing to be proud of.


 I'm being sorry for you! For your country that was a big experiment that has failed!
well your racism betrays you my friend....you lost all your credibility.....now no one cares about what you say..you are now just a crazy person...so keep talking.....I hope not all Russians are as dumb as you are....keep exporting liquor..thats all Russians are good for...Everybody's life in Russia revolves around liquor and drinking....thats why you guys are all dropping dead over there from liver disease and alcoholism..instead of talking about America...you need to focus on that


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 27, 2011, 10:39:30 AM
well your racism betrays you my friend....you lost all your credibility.....now no one cares about what you say..you are now just a crazy person...so keep talking.....I hope not all Russians are as dumb as you are....keep exporting liquor..thats all Russians are good for...Everybody's life in Russia revolves around liquor and drinking....thats why you guys are all dropping dead over there from liver disease and alcoholism..instead of talking about America...you need to focus on that

 Racism? What bad have I told about the people of different color than me?
 Barack Obama is black, kind of! And he's a great American president. Even received a Nobel Prize for Peace!!!



Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: theonlyone on March 27, 2011, 10:40:46 AM
 Black people are also best runners and jazz performers!


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: OzmO on March 27, 2011, 11:32:08 AM

Russians have Russian, Americans don't have their own language. There is no American language. You suck, nothing to be proud of.
 Obama is a KGB agent! Nice! Not only that but overall - AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS with out firing a sinlge shot at you....
 America is a land of Latinos and black people! Nothing to be proud of.


 I'm being sorry for you! For your country that was a big experiment that has failed!
Now you are just blabbering.


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: Hugo Chavez on March 27, 2011, 10:45:51 PM
You're the fucking shit
 Hope this helps
thanks, people often tell me that :)


LOL,... gotta love these lost in translation moments :D


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: tu_holmes on March 27, 2011, 10:52:22 PM

Russians have Russian, Americans don't have their own language. There is no American language. You suck, nothing to be proud of.
 Obama is a KGB agent! Nice! Not only that but overall - AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS with out firing a sinlge shot at you....
 America is a land of Latinos and black people! Nothing to be proud of.


 I'm being sorry for you! For your country that was a big experiment that has failed!

How many experiments has Russia gone through...

Czarism? Communism? Democracy?

When will you find one that works?


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: theonlyone on March 28, 2011, 12:33:51 AM
How many experiments has Russia gone through...

Czarism? Communism? Democracy?

When will you find one that works?


Part of the problem of Russian identity is the somewhat indefinable or indistinct nature of Russianness ("russkost'," "russkoe"). There is something indeterminate, mysterious, even irrational about Russia and Russian identity - or so many have said. Various poets and philosophers since about the middle of the ninetenth century have characterized Russia as a "Sphinx." For many Russia has also been a "riddle" ("zagadka"). The young Nikolai Berdiaev began his 1915 article on "The Soul of Russia" by speaking of the need to "solve the riddle of Russia" ("razgadat' zagadku Rossii"). For Berdiaev, Russia was a "riddle," an "unsolved mystery" ("nerazgadannaia taina"). A decade later Georgii Fedotov characterized the Petersburg intelligentsia as working on the Russian "riddle" ("reshaet ee zagadku"). More recently philosopher E. V. Barabanov characterizes Russia as a "problem-riddle" ("problema-zagadka"). The word "zagadka" is applied to Russia again and again from the beginnings of Russian philosophy down to the present day. Sometimes, as well, Russian thinkers make sarcastic reference to the "enigmatic soul" ("zagadochnaia dusha") of Russia. And all this is quite apart from the fact that Western observers too speak of "the riddle of Russian identity." Most famous of course is Sir Winston Churchill's characterization of Russia as "a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma."
Boris Grois has developed a philosophically sophisticated version of the Russian "riddle." Grois shows that Russian thinkers, obsessed with the contrast between Russia and the West, and having nothing truly original to offer the West, tend to represent Russia as a kind of radical "Other" ("Inoe") with respect to the West. Russia is a place where Western discourses about this mysterious "Other" get materialized or realized by Russian themselves. All thinking Russians are themselves split into a "European consciousness" and a "Russian Other." According to Grois, the Russian "Other" sometimes takes on features of "the subconscious" or "the unconscious." For example: "The Russian cultural tradition . . . understands Russia herself as the subconscious: Russia cannot have a subconscious because she herself is the subconscious." Or: "The Russia of Chaadaev and the Slavophiles may . . . be viewed as yet another name for the post-Idealist unconscious." The terminology here looks psychoanalytic, or at least somewhat Jungian, but for Grois it means that Russia is represented as outside of history, outside of space (neither West nor East), distant from unattainable Western ideals, and as various other negations of presence. The terminology also suggests, however, that notions about Russia are literally unavailable to consciousness, are difficult to express by means of Western discourse, in short, that Russian identity is essentially ineffable.
One factor that places Russia and the Russians "outside" of discursive possibility - and a factor that Grois does not consider - is moral masochism. This phenomenon has been affirmed in one way or another by most Russian philosophers, yet at the same time it has also been denied by them because of its radical implications. The personal identity of a masochist can be very difficult to determine. It is a mystery, a riddle. The masochist by definition submits to some aggrandized other, be that other the collective, political authority, fate, or whatever. As a result, the masochist's sense of self is rather circumstantial and indefinite. In the Russian case the self is spread around in the collective, as it were, it is difficult to locate. The collective, in turn, is as overpersonified as the individual is underpersonified, as I observed earlier. Or to speak in more properly Russian terms, the collective gains a soul, while the soul of the individual submerged in this collective is lessened, humbled, eliminated even. The one who utters the words "enigmatic Russian soul" ("zagadochnaia russkaia dusha") is not speaking about any particular Russian. This is a problem, since properly speaking only particular Russians have souls. Where there is personification in one place, there is depersonification in another. Personification of the collective is all too often theft of the individual's identity.
The process begins in early ontogeny, when the individual is tied up by an all-powerful mother in the infamous Russian practice of swaddling. It continues in adulthood when the peasant commune, the party, or some other collective takes over the function of the restraining/rewarding mother. In all of this the collective seems to possess magical power over the individual, who obligingly vanishes. This is a mysterious process. The Russian soul is an enigma, in part, because it is a displaced or misplaced soul. Russia cannot, properly speaking, have a soul. If it did, it has to have gotten it from somewhere else. But the question of where raises the issue of masochism, an unpleasant topic, a scary word even. Better to leave the question alone. Let the Russian soul continue to be an enigma. Mystery is better than analysis.
Yet another aspect of the indefiniteness of Russian identity is strictly linguistic. In the Russian language both individual Russians and things Russian may be said to be "Russian." This terribly obvious fact is linguistically more subtle and interesting in Russian than in English, for the Russian noun for a Russian happens to be exactly the same as the adjective describing the quality of being Russian, i.e., both meanings are represented by the word "russkii." Such cannot be said of most other nationalities in Russian, say, "Frenchman" ("frantsuz") vs. "French" ("frantsuzskii"), or "Englishman" ("anglichanin") vs. "English" ("angliiskii"). In Russian, because of this accident of linguistic history, there is thus something slightly indefinite or incomplete about being a "russkii," as opposed to being some other nationality. Russians are aware if this, and like to joke that their ethnonym is merely an "adjective" ("prilagatel'noe"), saying - untranslatably - that "Russkii sam sebe ne prinadlezhit, a vsegda prilagaetsia k tsariu, k partii, k gosudarstvu, i t. d." Such a self-deprecating utterance is, moreover, another way of recognizing the morally masochistic tendencies of Russians. Russia ("Rossiia"), as opposed to Russians ("russkie"), has the advantage of being signified by a noun of its own. With this linguistic advantage, it can also easily be personified ("Mother Russia," "Holy Russia," etc.), whereas merely "adjectival" Russians are somewhat depersonified.
Sometimes Russia is personified to such an extent that she begins to take on sacred features. Understandably, this process did not begin until nationalism was well under way in Russia. According to Michael Cherniavsky, the very specific and concrete myths circulating about the tsars - Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great, Alexander I, etc. - overwhelmed or absorbed any incipient myths about Russia and her people. As a result, significant mythical representations of Russia herself came late, for the most part starting in the first half of the nineteenth century. They were, moreover, full of contradictions, inconsistencies, and outright mystery. For many, Russia was incomprehensible by Western cognitive standards. The most appropriate approach to her was to believe in her, as one would believe in God. This was an essentially religious attitude, and it persisted well into the twentieth century. In 1911 Petr Stolypin, Russia's reformist premier and interior minister under the last tsar, declared: "I believe in Russia. If I did not have this belief, I would be in no condition to do anything." Similarly, religious thinker Georgii Fedotov wrote in 1931: "We must believe in Russia. Otherwise, is it worth living?" "Now, more than ever, we should believe in Russia. . . ," wrote philosopher Ivan Il'in in 1948. I Believe in Russia, announced Communist leader Gennadii Ziuganov in the title of his 1995 book. The consistency of the imagery is remarkable. Influential Russians continue essentially to worship Russia (or claim that they worship Russia).
Russia had long been, after all, "Holy Russia" ("sviataia Rus'," not "sviataia Rossiia"), and the "Russian God" ("russkii Bog," not "rossiiskii Bog") protected her, pervaded her even. It made sense to believe in, to venerate something holy. But the nature of the holiness was itself not easy to define. For philosopher Vladimir Soloviev Russia was holy because she was called upon to mediate between East and West, or more specifically, to reconcile Orthodoxy with Catholicism in a spirit of universal Christianity. To accomplish this union would be to offer to the world "the fullest expression, implementation, and perfection of Christianity" - as opposed to acting in the narrow national interests of Russia. For nationalist Fedor Dostoevsky, on the other hand, Russia was holy because Russians were the world's only "'God-bearing' people" ("narod 'bogonosets,'" as Shatov says in The Possessed), and this people bore God within itself out of a "need to suffer" - as Christ suffered. The "Russian God" was specifically Jesus Christ, and Russia was "holy" because her sufferings were Christ-like. To "believe in" Russia was essentially a Christian attitude. For poet Viacheslav Ivanov the words "imitation of Christ" ("upodoblenie Khristu") seemed to be inscribed on the forehead of the Russian nation. For the late Nikolai Triapkin Russia was Christ: "O Rus' of mine, is that not you there, crucified?" Nationalist painter Il'ia Glazunov titled his memoir "Russia Crucified" ("Rossiia raspiataia"). For composer Modest Musorgsky Russia was even a holy-fool ("iurodivyi") in gullibly submitting to tyrannical tsars.
So, Russia was "holy" for various reasons, mostly incomprehensible. A nation of people who seemed to crucify themselves as Christ did, to play the holy-fool, and to act against their own interests generally - confounded reason. There was nothing left but to turn away in disgust (as some of the intelligentsia have periodically done) - or simply to accept Russia for what she was and to believe in her religiously.
In 1886 Fedor Tiutchev wrote his famous quatrain on the need to believe in Russia:

Умом Россию не понять,
Аршином общим не измерить:
У ней особенная стать -
В Россию можно только верить.

Russia cannot be understood with the mind,
Nor can she be measured with the ordinary yardstick.
There is in her a special stature:
You can only believe in Russia.

To say that Russia cannot be understood with the mind ("umom") is something like saying that God, or women as a class, or Beethoven's Ninth Symphony - cannot be understood in a rational way. That is, Tiutchev's statement is religious and ideological, insofar as it defies the possibility of rational thinking about its object. As Viacheslav Ushakov puts it in his contribution to the recent Inoe collection, Russia is basically inconceivable ("nemyslimaia") to ordinary consciousness. Russia cannot be successfully defined utilizing the Russian language (or, apparently, any other language).


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 28, 2011, 12:40:08 AM
Now you are just blabbering.

 You didn't like - AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS with out firing a sinlge shot at you or you don't believe that Barack is a KGB agent?


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS
Post by: theonlyone on March 28, 2011, 12:58:07 AM
thanks, people often tell me that :)


LOL,... gotta love these lost in translation moments :D

 hehe


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: tu_holmes on March 28, 2011, 12:59:19 AM
You'll have to excuse me for not reading that long post you obviously copied and didn't provide a link to.



Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: theonlyone on March 28, 2011, 01:04:34 AM
You'll have to excuse me for not reading that long post you obviously copied and didn't provide a link to.



 If I didn't provide a link just don't read


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: theonlyone on March 28, 2011, 01:18:32 AM
"Russia is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma."  - Winston Churchill



Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: theonlyone on March 28, 2011, 01:19:14 AM
 "The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia." - Otto von Bismarck


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: theonlyone on March 28, 2011, 01:21:23 AM
"America is the most grandiose experiment the world has seen, but, I am afraid, it is not going to be a success." - Sigmund Freud


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: andreisdaman on March 28, 2011, 10:03:36 AM
Russia is still trying to find its way in the world..it wants to dominate the world but lacks the means or the military to do so.....it is a frustrated giant that wants to be a big player on the world stage but cannot achieve this due to no one caring about Russian opinion and due to their refusal to play a positive role in the world...Russia only want s to spend its time opposing the United States....The U.S. does not  even think about Russia any longer and does not see Russia as an adversary..it is Russia who is stuck in the past


Title: Re: AMERICA IS DEAD AND IS IN RIGOR MORTIS (so says America-hating idiots)
Post by: theonlyone on March 28, 2011, 10:24:23 AM
Russia is still trying to find its way in the world..it wants to dominate the world but lacks the means or the military to do so.....it is a frustrated giant that wants to be a big player on the world stage but cannot achieve this due to no one caring about Russian opinion and due to their refusal to play a positive role in the world...Russia only want s to spend its time opposing the United States....The U.S. does not  even think about Russia any longer and does not see Russia as an adversary..it is Russia who is stuck in the past

 Andrei (Andrei is a very Russian name btw). Russia does not seek ways to dominate the world, believe me. Russia is always 2'nd to none. Russia has it's way but what is certain it outlive America. Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan will outlive America either. Long run baby... You will have to come back to Africa. I hear South Africa is developing rapidly as well...