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Title: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Deicide on April 20, 2011, 05:19:17 PM
I used to hear stories from friends who attended Harvard, Yale, et al. about the quality of education they received from these places. Now, I have been attending a so-called prestigious university and finding out to my dismay that this trend, if it is a trend, holds true. At my current institution (Imperial College), it seems that there is little else than reputation and not only in my department but in others. Most of the graduates here simply enter finance, banking and investment upon graduation irrespective of their course of studies and looking back at it, my 'shitty' State University of New York that I attended as an undergraduate gave me a better education in terms of breadth and learning, with better instruction and teachers than anything here for a much better price. Unfortunately this formula of prestige keeps people rolling in again and again, but you have to admit that it is fucked up. There is just something wrong about universities whose sole attributes are prestige and research quality where everything else goes to pot. I suppose this is sort of a rant but I wonder if any of you have experienced this as well. ???


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 20, 2011, 05:26:22 PM
I used to hear stories from friends who attended Harvard, Yale, et al. about the quality of education they received from these places. Now, I have been attending a so-called prestigious university and finding out to my dismay that this trend, if it is a trend, holds true. At my current institution (Imperial College), it seems that there is little else than reputation and not only in my department but in others. Most of the graduates here simply enter finance, banking and investment upon graduation irrespective of their course of studies and looking back at it, my 'shitty' State University of New York that I attended as an undergraduate gave me a better education in terms of breadth and learning, with better instruction and teachers than anything here for a much better price. Unfortunately this formula of prestige keeps people rolling in again and again, but you have to admit that it is fucked up. There is just something wrong about universities whose sole attributes are prestige and research quality where everything else goes to pot. I suppose this is sort of a rant but I wonder if any of you have experienced this as well. ???

Wholeheartedly agree.

My undergrad years I attended an IVY league in NYC. For my graduate degree work I went to a SUNY in the city.  

I found that:

(A) The professors were of the same caliber. Heck, often times the same professors that taught at Columbia would also teach at the SUNY on their days off.

(B) It was very inexpensive to go to a SUNY.

(C) At the end, after you pass boards and gather the necessary certifications needed, it makes very little difference when looking for a workplace.  GRANTED a Harvard grad with a strong GPA in his discipline will always get a second look, but I've also seen a Harvard grad with a shitty GPA be considered as much as the next guy.

(D) Networking was pretty much the same.

"1"


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2011, 05:36:54 PM
I used to hear stories from friends who attended Harvard, Yale, et al. about the quality of education they received from these places. Now, I have been attending a so-called prestigious university and finding out to my dismay that this trend, if it is a trend, holds true. At my current institution (Imperial College), it seems that there is little else than reputation and not only in my department but in others. Most of the graduates here simply enter finance, banking and investment upon graduation irrespective of their course of studies and looking back at it, my 'shitty' State University of New York that I attended as an undergraduate gave me a better education in terms of breadth and learning, with better instruction and teachers than anything here for a much better price. Unfortunately this formula of prestige keeps people rolling in again and again, but you have to admit that it is fucked up. There is just something wrong about universities whose sole attributes are prestige and research quality where everything else goes to pot. I suppose this is sort of a rant but I wonder if any of you have experienced this as well. ???
Why are you a mid 30s perpetual student?  Haven`t you grown tired of it yet?  I mean you could easily just wait for Chomsky`s books or Pinker`s books to come out and study them and re-study them.  Wouldn`t that be more effective as far as learning goes, not to mention cost?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2011, 05:38:13 PM
Wholeheartedly agree.

My undergrad years I attended an IVY league in NYC. For my graduate degree work I went to a SUNY in the city.  

I found that:

(A) The professors were of the same caliber. Heck, often times the same professors that taught at Columbia would also teach at the SUNY on their days off.

(B) It was very inexpensive to go to a SUNY.

(C) At the end, after you pass boards and gather the necessary certifications needed, it makes very little difference when looking for a workplace.  GRANTED a Harvard grad with a strong GPA in his discipline will always get a second look, but I've also seen a Harvard grad with a shitty GPA be considered as much as the next guy.

(D) Networking was pretty much the same.

"1"
At the end of the day facts are facts no matter where you learn them.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Firemuscle on April 20, 2011, 05:39:39 PM
At the end of the day facts are facts no matter where you learn them.

 At the end of the day you are stupid queer. That's a fact.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: BayGBM on April 20, 2011, 05:41:47 PM
Why are you a mid 30s perpetual student?  Haven`t you grown tired of it yet?  I mean you could easily just wait for Chomsky`s books or Pinker`s books to come out and study them and re-study them.  Wouldn`t that be more effective as far as learning goes, not to mention cost?

Most doctoral degrees are earned in the mid 30s; I was 31 when I finished.  Many MBAs are earned in the 30s as well.  The JD is usually late 20s-mid 30s.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 20, 2011, 05:43:29 PM
At the end of the day you are stupid queer. That's a fact.
;D


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Hulkotron on April 20, 2011, 05:43:53 PM
The average graduating age in my program was probably around 30 for a Ph.D.  If you go straight through school (BS-MS-PhD) there is no reason you can't be done at 28 or so, as long as you're not in some weird social sciences program where PhDs take 10 years.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2011, 05:45:40 PM
The average graduating age in my program was probably around 30 for a Ph.D.
Watch, in a decade it will be 40 years old.  Its really just a financial game at this point and as long as the fools continue to line up and pay, it will only get worse.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2011, 05:49:14 PM
Most doctoral degrees are earned in the mid 30s; I was 31 when I finished.  Many MBAs are earned in the 30s as well.  The JD is usually late 20s-mid 30s.
And still nobody is going to write Beethoven`s Ninth Symphony.  What hijinks.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: jwb on April 20, 2011, 05:54:34 PM
And still nobody is going to write Beethoven`s Ninth Symphony.  What hijinks.
Why would someone need to write it again?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Hulkotron on April 20, 2011, 05:55:00 PM
Watch, in a decade it will be 40 years old.  Its really just a financial game at this point and as long as the fools continue to line up and pay, it will only get worse.

I don't think it will ever get that bad at least in the sciences.  The programs are still and have always been set up so that a PhD takes 4-5 years and if you take longer than that it's hard to stay in the program.  There are fields in the humanities today where it is not altogether uncommon to take 10 years on a PhD though.  Also in the sciences doing multiple post-docs (2-3 years each) before getting a faculty position is becoming pretty common but that's mostly due to the shitty job market.

The real number to look at is average years to earn the degree, since lots of people are not 22 when they start grad school.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2011, 05:56:39 PM
Why would someone need to write it again?
Thats precisely the point.  Its an exercise in obvious futility.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: XFACTOR on April 20, 2011, 06:07:12 PM
Most doctoral degrees are earned in the mid 30s; I was 31 when I finished.  Many MBAs are earned in the 30s as well.  The JD is usually late 20s-mid 30s.

MBA at 29 here.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: XFACTOR on April 20, 2011, 06:10:35 PM
Regardless, let's say you get an MBA from a prestigious Univ but the education was sub par.  It really doesn't matter, part of what you are paying for is the recruiting process and abilities to attract key companies.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: HTexan on April 20, 2011, 06:13:15 PM
Most doctoral degrees are earned in the mid 30s; I was 31 when I finished.  Many MBAs are earned in the 30s as well.  The JD is usually late 20s-mid 30s.
bs. most, me included, get masters late 20s


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: che on April 20, 2011, 06:14:38 PM
MBA at 20 here


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2011, 06:15:21 PM
Regardless, let's say you get an MBA from a prestigious Univ but the education was sub par.  It really doesn't matter, part of what you are paying for is the recruiting process and abilities to attract key companies.
Is that where you learned to be a gaudy piece of white trash who does nothing but partake in a throw away society?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: XFACTOR on April 20, 2011, 06:15:35 PM
MBA at 20 here

lol That would be nice albeit impossible


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Marty Champions on April 20, 2011, 06:16:04 PM
makes no sense to go to college for 10 years with debt, even 5 youll go into debt. just make a modest income live within means

if i lived life all over again id just pay some cheap rent for a shitty apartment by the beach, id have no car only a bicycle and just mow lawns and paint


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: efanhowz on April 20, 2011, 06:16:59 PM
What really counts is if you can talk your way through an interview and come off as friendly, outgoing, not cocky, but also knowledgable. I have 2 friends that graduated USC business. 1 is a temp. 1 works at twitter. I think education doesn't really matter unless it's specialized

BUT MAINLY IT'S WHO YOU KNOW


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: XFACTOR on April 20, 2011, 06:17:35 PM
Is that where you learned to be a gaudy piece of white trash who does nothing but partake in a throw away society?

No it's where I've grown to look down upon the scoundrels and rats that crawl the earth such as yourself.  ;)


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on April 20, 2011, 06:18:29 PM
MBA at 29 here.
MBA = GED


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Firemuscle on April 20, 2011, 06:19:06 PM
What really counts is if you can talk your way through an interview and come off as friendly, outgoing, not cocky, but also knowledgable. I have 2 friends that graduated USC business. 1 is a temp. 1 works at twitter. I think education doesn't really matter unless it's specialized

BUT MAINLY IT'S WHO YOU KNOW

 This is it.

 Education is not very important these days. It's just all about nailing the interview and having connections to get in. Education is just the icing on the cake nowadays. Usually I think getting a Masters is a waste of time and money, except for a small handful of fields.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: XFACTOR on April 20, 2011, 06:20:39 PM
MBA = GED

Need to try a little harder there.  Go practice and try again later


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: HTexan on April 20, 2011, 06:22:13 PM
lol That would be nice albeit impossible
(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080423/Stars/Harold-Kumar-Neil-Patrick_l.jpg)


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: HTexan on April 20, 2011, 06:25:04 PM
makes no sense to go to college for 10 years with debt, even 5 youll go into debt. just make a modest income live within means

if i lived life all over again id just pay some cheap rent for a shitty apartment by the beach, id have no car only a bicycle and just mow lawns and paint
work part time and go to college at same time. then for mba, work full time go to college part time. you lazy fuck.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: XFACTOR on April 20, 2011, 06:26:52 PM
makes no sense to go to college for 10 years with debt, even 5 youll go into debt. just make a modest income live within means

if i lived life all over again id just pay some cheap rent for a shitty apartment by the beach, id have no car only a bicycle and just mow lawns and paint

Wow.  Do you really beleive in this?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Firemuscle on April 20, 2011, 06:27:59 PM
 The University system is a hustle, it's a business.

 The degree is usually NOT worth what you invest into it.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 20, 2011, 06:34:19 PM
1. TA claims he has all of these degrees yet he bags on the people getting their degrees at 30 or older....like he's freaking Doogie Houser.

2. UCLA about 18-25k per year
   USC $55k per year

Both schools are great.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: XFACTOR on April 20, 2011, 06:34:53 PM
The University system is a hustle, it's a business.

 The degree is usually NOT worth what you invest into it.


 So wrong!  A strong educational system provokes a good economy. Look at India.  Even the US as a case study.  The educational system is in shambles right now and coincidentally so is the financial system.

I've recently recruited and brought 5 people from other countries to Canada to work. Mainly due to not being able to find good talent locally.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: HTexan on April 20, 2011, 06:40:44 PM
So wrong!  A strong educational system provokes a good economy. Look at India.  Even the US as a case study.  The educational system is in shambles right now and coincidentally so is the financial system.

I've recently recruited and brought 5 people from other countries to Canada to work. Mainly due to not being able to find good talent locally.
yup, a degree is very important in getting a good job, especially in this economy.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Firemuscle on April 20, 2011, 06:51:47 PM
So wrong!  A strong educational system provokes a good economy. Look at India.  Even the US as a case study.  The educational system is in shambles right now and coincidentally so is the financial system.

I've recently recruited and brought 5 people from other countries to Canada to work. Mainly due to not being able to find good talent locally.

 Generally. An education is important, and on a nationwide scale it's important to have an educated populace.

 But right now in the USA, for an individual. Getting a degree usually does NOT pay off.

 I've seen it a million times. People with degrees working retail or other shit jobs.

 There is an over-abundance of University graduates right now and not enough jobs to go around for all of them.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: che on April 20, 2011, 06:58:19 PM
yup, a degree is very important in getting a good job, especially in this economy.

What's a good  job?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: XFACTOR on April 20, 2011, 07:05:54 PM
BSRF, I can tell you now that's simply not true! We are in dire need of more developers and project managers. Having a hard time in a city of 6Million, offering good six figure salary with bonus attached to that. I can bring a well educated East Indian here pay him/her 100k give them a car, work visa etc., and they will work circles around everyone else. Uruguay as well seems to have an awesome talent pool. We'll we have been lucky at least.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Parker on April 20, 2011, 08:01:11 PM
So wrong!  A strong educational system provokes a good economy. Look at India.  Even the US as a case study.  The educational system is in shambles right now and coincidentally so is the financial system.

I've recently recruited and brought 5 people from other countries to Canada to work. Mainly due to not being able to find good talent locally.
the problem with India is that they have over a billion people, and out of those, only a small faction of those are "really bright" ones...No matter where you go in this world, the rich and the educated are in power, and amny times this goes hand in hand---or in some places like Central America or West Africa---the smart people get killed off, because they are competition.

One of the main failings of the American Educational system is that everybody is "above average"---and grades are given. My mother was a teacher for 42 yrs--very strict, but parents wanted my mother to give their kids grades (We are not C parents), I ran into this when I was student teaching...I said to hell with that...and got out. 


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: BIG ACH on April 20, 2011, 08:10:29 PM

Good for you for going to Imperial College, regardless of what you think of the program, its a HUGE name and I hear very hard to get into.



I'm doing my PhD at a State University (UCF) now and finding the engineering program there just as good, if not BETTER, than the one at the bigger name private university where I did my undergrad and Masters (George Washington University).

Makes you wonder!


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2011, 08:33:27 PM
No it's where I've grown to look down upon the scoundrels and rats that crawl the earth such as yourself.  ;)

You relish the realm of peasantry with your cheap dry-wall and plastic Korfam Kenneth Cole shoes.  The king of leases and large debt to income ratio is hardly something worth trumpeting about.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2011, 08:35:20 PM
work part time and go to college at same time. then for mba, work full time go to college part time. you lazy fuck.

ROFLMAO at work, work, work, work mentality.

When will you ever find time to live?  When you are dead?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2011, 08:39:53 PM
So wrong!  A strong educational system provokes a good economy. Look at India.  Even the US as a case study.  The educational system is in shambles right now and coincidentally so is the financial system.

I've recently recruited and brought 5 people from other countries to Canada to work. Mainly due to not being able to find good talent locally.
You oughta be put out to pasture for not "hiring" Americans and outsourcing.  However, you probably didn`t hire anybody and just thought the story too cute and had to post.  You are nothing but a philandering weasel who probably should be brought to justice so we don`t have to see your posts for a few years.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on April 20, 2011, 08:47:31 PM
Never heard of "Imperial College" Ita prestige probably exists only in your head, so that's probably why it offers little else.

Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: BIG ACH on April 20, 2011, 08:49:59 PM
Never heard of "Imperial College" - so that's probably why it offers little.

Hope this helps.

Located in London, England...  You can say its one of the most prestigious universities in the world, and very hard to get into!


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on April 20, 2011, 08:51:34 PM
Located in London, England...  You can say its one of the most prestigious universities in the world, and very hard to get into!

Heard of the colleges at Oxford and Cambridge and the LSE.  Imperial College, not so much.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on April 20, 2011, 08:55:53 PM

Looked up on wikipedia: Imperial College has a mammoth endowment of 60m pounds.

LMAO.  No wonder it can't offer anything.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: BIG ACH on April 20, 2011, 08:57:24 PM
Heard of the colleges at Oxford and Cambridge and the LSE.  Imperial College, not so much.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2010-2011/top-200.html

Cambridge and Oxford are tied for 6th place worldwide, Imperial is at 9th...


London School of Economics is somewhere in the 80's!



Nice to see my Alma Mater (GWU) on the list, even if its 95th lol


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on April 20, 2011, 09:01:39 PM
"Times" higher education.... they wouldn't be pulling for the "home teams" now would they.  That list is pretty ridiculous below the top 6. Everybody knows what a prestigious school is.  No need for rankings.

Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Oxford, Cambridge .... maybe Columbia.  The rest are all wannabes.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2010-2011/top-200.html

Cambridge and Oxford are tied for 6th place worldwide, Imperial is at 9th...


London School of Economics is somewhere in the 80's!



Nice to see my Alma Mater (GWU) on the list, even if its 95th lol


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Schmoff on April 20, 2011, 09:03:53 PM
Most doctoral degrees are earned in the mid 30s; I was 31 when I finished.  Many MBAs are earned in the 30s as well.  The JD is usually late 20s-mid 30s.

what field is your doctoral degree in?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: BIG ACH on April 20, 2011, 09:06:56 PM

Yeah Bay, I didn't know you had a PhD?  What did you study?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on April 20, 2011, 09:21:57 PM
are you a physician, Onemorerep?



Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2011, 09:24:23 PM
are you a physician, Onemorerep?


Ask nicely and maybe you`ll get him to play doctor.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 20, 2011, 09:25:46 PM
TA, do you and your gimmicks ever get tired of getting owned?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on April 20, 2011, 09:25:53 PM
Ask nicely and maybe you`ll get him to play doctor.

Not everyone likes the same games you do, gollum.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2011, 09:46:30 PM
TA, do you and your gimmicks ever get tired of getting owned?
I don`t recall ever ending up on that side of the blade so how could I possibly grow weary of a scenario that has never taken place.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on April 20, 2011, 09:54:35 PM
I don`t recall ever ending up on that side of the blade so how could I possibly grow weary of a scenario that has never taken place.

Overcompensation for looking like a walking abortion ==> your stilted writing style?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2011, 10:11:04 PM
Overcompensation for looking like a walking abortion ==> your stilted writing style?
How do you explain away your stunted growth and lisp to co-workers? 


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on April 20, 2011, 10:15:54 PM
How do you explain away your stunted growth and lisp to co-workers? 

Dear gollum, if I were to find myself suddenly malformed, you would be the first person I'd contact for tips on how to cope.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2011, 10:19:58 PM
Dear gollum, if I were to find myself suddenly malformed, you would be the first person I'd contact for tips on how to cope.
Gayer than ordering jockstraps for an entire little league baseball team.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: pluck on April 20, 2011, 10:25:30 PM
The University system is a hustle, it's a business.

 The degree is usually NOT worth what you invest into it.


100% Spot on.

They just ran an article in Chicago Tribune a day or 2 ago how all these MBA and master's grads are working as bartenders, waitresses...etc. Because they can't find jobs. A degree is useless if you do not go practice it.

Who the fuck needs humanities and history classes as a pre-med student or engineering? It's fucking pointless to spend a few grand on a class where you learn about history when you want to be anything other than a fucking librarian or history buff.

I HAD to take fucking pointless classes as a biology major...few I can recall. Intro to Religion, Bible as Lit, World History, ...etc. Those fucking classes should be offered in high school...NOT college where you have to pay money for them.

Few of my buddies are Finance, Accounting, Bio majors.
NONE of them work at a job where their major comes in handy.

I'm not saying college is bad, but people do not really see it as what it really is. A for profit business just like any other.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Alex23 on April 20, 2011, 10:34:56 PM
Why are you a mid 30s perpetual student?  Haven`t you grown tired of it yet?  I mean you could easily just wait for Chomsky`s books or Pinker`s books to come out and study them and re-study them.  Wouldn`t that be more effective as far as learning goes, not to mention cost?

LOL Adonisowned....


I did my master's in CS at Stanford. Did it "open doors".. you bet would I rather have spent two year in "Layola" or "Waterschmoe college" with or without a dick in my mouth.....

Absolutely not.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Naggash on April 21, 2011, 12:22:08 AM
Gayer than ordering jockstraps for an entire little league baseball team.

Do you have a degree or job? Serious question.

Your antics are intriuging.

Or are you a full time social pariah/troll?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Deicide on April 21, 2011, 01:37:41 AM
Good for you for going to Imperial College, regardless of what you think of the program, its a HUGE name and I hear very hard to get into.



I'm doing my PhD at a State University (UCF) now and finding the engineering program there just as good, if not BETTER, than the one at the bigger name private university where I did my undergrad and Masters (George Washington University).

Makes you wonder!

Yeah, I suppose I might think it was worth it if the prestige pays off because that's about the only thing this place offers. I have never experienced such horrible, nonexistent teaching in my life before. :-\


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 21, 2011, 02:24:54 AM
makes no sense to go to college for 10 years with debt, even 5 youll go into debt. just make a modest income live within means

if i lived life all over again id just pay some cheap rent for a shitty apartment by the beach, id have no car only a bicycle and just mow lawns and paint
This sounds good and fine ass hoes around daily.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 21, 2011, 03:45:39 AM
ROFLMAO at work, work, work, work mentality.

When will you ever find time to live?  When you are dead?

some of us have to pay for our own food and room and board, and not mooch off our parents.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: G_Thang on April 21, 2011, 03:59:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn7-fVtT16k

#65


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Tom on April 21, 2011, 06:14:43 AM
rutgers university paying 32,000 for snookie to speak to their student body! and with the few who protested that ( which is scary that the majority that it was okay and cool?!) they now think to make the school look better in their eyes trying to hire bruce springsteen to speak! lol! love the boss, but what is he going to say " born in the u.s.a., go u.s.a. and um, what else?)


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: XFACTOR on April 21, 2011, 06:53:39 AM
Do you have a degree or job? Serious question.

Your antics are intriuging.

Or are you a full time social pariah/troll?

Come on!  It's fairly obvious this guy isn't very bright.  He doesn't have a degree nor does he have an established career.  I'm 100% on that  ;)


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: 225for70 on April 21, 2011, 07:18:20 AM
MBA at 29 here.

MBA at 28 here...


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: jaejonna on April 21, 2011, 07:21:41 AM
The teachers at Colombia aren't as cool as the teachers at Yale... imho ::) ::)


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: 225for70 on April 21, 2011, 07:29:52 AM
Yeah, I suppose I might think it was worth it if the prestige pays off because that's about the only thing this place offers. I have never experienced such horrible, nonexistent teaching in my life before. :-\

You can always transfer to another school..I did this after my first semester in business school..I met with the dean at the new school, and after a half hour meeting, he waived a bunch of courses for me.  I did not lose a single credit, etc by transferring.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on April 21, 2011, 07:30:23 AM
The teachers at Colombia aren't as cool as the teachers at Yale... imho ::) ::)

But they're definitely cooler than the teachers at Peru, right?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: 225for70 on April 21, 2011, 07:31:50 AM
The teachers at Colombia aren't as cool as the teachers at Yale... imho ::) ::)

The teachers at Yale aren't bad at all. Many teachers from Yale also teach at near by many state and private universities in New haven.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: XFACTOR on April 21, 2011, 07:34:06 AM
MBA at 28 here...

that's why you can "snort coke off hookers tits now"


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: HTexan on April 21, 2011, 07:34:39 AM
ROFLMAO at work, work, work, work mentality.

When will you ever find time to live?  When you are dead?
men work you bitch made m*th@fuck@. stop bleeding the system, you ungrateful fuck.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 21, 2011, 08:30:56 AM
This ^^^


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 21, 2011, 08:50:29 AM
men work you bitch made m*th@fuck@. stop bleeding the system, you ungrateful fuck.

Somehow TA seems to have this sense of entitlement and really doesn't know the meaning of "work" or knowing what it's like to work for something or take care of a family. Seems he's had everything handed to him or maybe inherited something.....but work is definitely not in his vocabulary. 


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: XFACTOR on April 21, 2011, 09:00:06 AM
Somehow TA seems to have this sense of entitlement and really doesn't know the meaning of "work" or knowing what it's like to work for something or take care of a family. Seems he's had everything handed to him or maybe inherited something.....but work is definitely not in his vocabulary. 

Nope he has no money  ;)  Zero anything.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Deicide on April 21, 2011, 09:00:42 AM
It's a shame TA derailed my thread. Not the first time. He can be such an annoying bugger.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: affeman on April 21, 2011, 09:02:53 AM
I used to hear stories from friends who attended Harvard, Yale, et al. about the quality of education they received from these places. Now, I have been attending a so-called prestigious university and finding out to my dismay that this trend, if it is a trend, holds true. At my current institution (Imperial College), it seems that there is little else than reputation and not only in my department but in others. Most of the graduates here simply enter finance, banking and investment upon graduation irrespective of their course of studies and looking back at it, my 'shitty' State University of New York that I attended as an undergraduate gave me a better education in terms of breadth and learning, with better instruction and teachers than anything here for a much better price. Unfortunately this formula of prestige keeps people rolling in again and again, but you have to admit that it is fucked up. There is just something wrong about universities whose sole attributes are prestige and research quality where everything else goes to pot. I suppose this is sort of a rant but I wonder if any of you have experienced this as well. ???

So you're still living the dream? (Mid 30s, 10 degrees, 20 languages, and haven't earned one dime?)

How about getting jobs instead of degrees?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 21, 2011, 09:12:38 AM
Other than not continuing playing baseball the biggest regret in my life was not finishing up my degree and actually experiencing a college life. Every time I step on campus at USC or UCLA (about twice a month to each) or when I visit other Universities around the country for seminars, I feel like I really missed out. I envy you guys that have went and experienced that "college life". I see the kids that I've worked with since they were in Jr. high through HS and some since even elementary school going on recruiting trips to different colleges, planning their lives, etc. The only thing I can do now is help some of these kids gain scholarships through their athletics (we've helped about 15-20) and help tutor to get their GPA's up for college, HS and just to stay in OUR program. (My wife is a credentialed teacher). Kick myself everyday.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Deicide on April 21, 2011, 09:43:19 AM
So you're still living the dream? (Mid 30s, 10 degrees, 20 languages, and haven't earned one dime?)

How about getting jobs instead of degrees?

I tried, which why I am doing the current degree, to make me marketable.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Hulkotron on April 21, 2011, 10:04:28 AM
I tried, which why I am doing the current degree, to make me marketable.

How many degrees do you have Deicide?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Boost on April 21, 2011, 10:14:37 AM
I tried, which why I am doing the current degree, to make me marketable.
Have you ever thought of cleaning up your image?

Good looking, lean people are more attractive to employers.

Who wants to hire an Overweight guy?..... Potentially horrible sickness record + Lazy lifestyle indicative of lazy work ethic.

3 Steps for you to enter the workplace:

Lose some weight

Learn to smile

Clean Shaven + Nice Tan



Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Deicide on April 21, 2011, 10:22:46 AM
How many degrees do you have Deicide?

Going on my 2nd Masters...so 3rd degree.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on April 21, 2011, 10:24:13 AM


Learn to smile





Apparently this is not on the curriculum at Imperial College.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Deicide on April 21, 2011, 10:25:20 AM
Have you ever thought of cleaning up your image?

Good looking, lean people are more attractive to employers.

Who wants to hire an Overweight guy?..... Potentially horrible sickness record + Lazy lifestyle indicative of lazy work ethic.

3 Steps for you to enter the workplace:

Lose some weight

Learn to smile

Clean Shaven + Nice Tan



You are trapped in the past.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Hulkotron on April 21, 2011, 10:25:38 AM
Have you ever thought of cleaning up your image?

Good looking, lean people are more attractive to employers.

Who wants to hire an Overweight guy?..... Potentially horrible sickness record + Lazy lifestyle indicative of lazy work ethic.

3 Steps for you to enter the workplace:

Lose some weight

Learn to smile

Clean Shaven + Nice Tan



Yes being jacked + tan are keys to life, well said Boost.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: jaejonna on April 21, 2011, 10:37:20 AM
Toxic Avenger is going to have a starting salary of 250,000 when he 'finishes'  ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 21, 2011, 01:00:53 PM
rutgers university paying 32,000 for snookie to speak to their student body! and with the few who protested that ( which is scary that the majority that it was okay and cool?!) they now think to make the school look better in their eyes trying to hire bruce springsteen to speak! lol! love the boss, but what is he going to say " born in the u.s.a., go u.s.a. and um, what else?)
The Boss Bruce Springsteen could not stand college and dropped out to never return without finishing a year.  I don`t know Snooki`s story at all, but I don`t think she ever went to or finished a college.

Why do they then hire them to speak at college graduations?

Because it is a giant show.  Entertainment. (athletics, etc.) and lastly, MONEY-MONEY-MONEY.

Its all a scam and you are being had.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 21, 2011, 01:01:47 PM
Come on!  It's fairly obvious this guy isn't very bright.  He doesn't have a degree nor does he have an established career.  I'm 100% on that  ;)
Proof please.  You plastic cheap schmuck.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 21, 2011, 01:03:40 PM
men work you bitch made m*th@fuck@. stop bleeding the system, you ungrateful fuck.
How do I "bleed the system"?  I have never taken a dime from the government, never taken out a loan, never have lived off credit, nothing.

So tell me, how is this "bleeding the system"?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 21, 2011, 01:04:27 PM
Nope he has no money  ;)  Zero anything.
Would you like to compare houses?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Tom on April 21, 2011, 01:08:01 PM
so true, the true adonis! all about money, athletics and entertainment! EDUCATION A DISTANT THIRD, MAYBE 4TH! SAD!

why do you think the highest paid people are the coaches, well football coaches that is! because football brings in the money to the campus! and funny that not a single person (the people who hold the purse strings) thinks this is wrong, morally and socially wrong much less any of these coaches for them to get paid a hundreds of thousands of dollars if not a million dollars while the actual reason for the school (any school for that matter) is supposedly for the education and training of students and the teachers are the first to be let go!

i guess i was raised to be too morally right, perhaps i was born in the wrong era!


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on April 21, 2011, 01:10:12 PM
so true, the true adonis! all about money, athletics and entertainment! EDUCATION A DISTANT THIRD, MAYBE 4TH! SAD!

why do you think the highest paid people are the coaches, well football coaches that is! because football brings in the money to the campus! and funny that not a single person (the people who hold the purse strings) thinks this is wrong, morally and socially wrong much less any of these coaches for them to get paid a hundreds of thousands of dollars if not a million dollars while the actual reason for the school (any school for that matter) is supposedly for the education and training of students and the teachers are the first to be let go!

i guess i was raised to be too morally right, perhaps i was born in the wrong era!

lol, you claim to be morally upstanding, but you begin by agreeing with the true adonis - one of satan's lesser imps.  


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: che on April 21, 2011, 01:14:06 PM
Would you like to compare houses?

 ;D


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 21, 2011, 01:14:42 PM
so true, the true adonis! all about money, athletics and entertainment! EDUCATION A DISTANT THIRD, MAYBE 4TH! SAD!

why do you think the highest paid people are the coaches, well football coaches that is! because football brings in the money to the campus! and funny that not a single person (the people who hold the purse strings) thinks this is wrong, morally and socially wrong much less any of these coaches for them to get paid a hundreds of thousands of dollars if not a million dollars while the actual reason for the school (any school for that matter) is supposedly for the education and training of students and the teachers are the first to be let go!

i guess i was raised to be too morally right, perhaps i was born in the wrong era!
EXACTLY. 


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 21, 2011, 02:28:07 PM
You mean the house that X-Factor worked for to buy or the house you inherited without doing a damn thing? Tell us TA, what do you do for a living again?


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Tom on April 21, 2011, 02:30:39 PM
i don't know about true adonis's previous postings, all i know is that i agree with him on this particular subject, that's it. later everyone!



Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Hulkotron on April 21, 2011, 05:04:04 PM
i don't know about true adonis's previous postings, all i know is that i agree with him on this particular subject, that's it. later everyone!



Thanks for posting, Tom!


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Campeon Del Mundo on April 21, 2011, 06:29:50 PM
   I graduated from one of the smaller California State University campuses.  They didn't have a football team.  It was at that time a small college and I missed out on real college life.  I wish I would have gone to a more recognizable major university, but not a party school.


But the so called pretigious universities don't make good students.  Good students just go there.  I've said this for years.


But one thing i've noticed about prestigous universities is that the classes tend to be more specific and more oriented towards academic research and not the work place.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 22, 2011, 03:37:55 AM
It's sad to say but a lot of these degrees are worthless. You end up with a lot of student debt and no real career to show for it. So many who get PHD's find the only good job they can get that pays well is teaching at a university. Other than that it's almost a worthless piece of paper for many.

So many college profesors have never been in the real world. They were students till they are 30 and then they taught college. They have a liberal warped view of the world. Yes they make 100K plus teaching but many couuldn't make it in the outside world.

In todays world if you go to college you have to treat it as a trade school. You have to ask yourself, when I get that piece of paper where do I go for my job?  If the answer is I don't know, then good luck. Many dream that if they only get that MBA then a buisness will be so impressed that they will give them an office, reserved parking and a secretary.  The truth is that the entry job they land they could have gotten with no degree. Now they have 100k of studen loans to pay.  They would have made more money opening up a deli or pizza store with that money.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Deicide on April 22, 2011, 03:40:28 AM
It's sad to say but a lot of these degrees are worthless. You end up with a lot of student debt and no real career to show for it. So many who get PHD's find the only good job they can get that pays well is teaching at a university. Other than that it's almost a worthless piece of paper for many.

So many college profesors have never been in the real world. They were students till they are 30 and then they taught college. They have a liberal warped view of the world. Yes they make 100K plus teaching but many couuldn't make it in the outside world.

In todays world if you go to college you have to treat it as a trade school. You have to ask yourself, when I get that piece of paper where do I go for my job?  If the answer is I don't know, then good luck. Many dream that if they only get that MBA then a buisness will be so impressed that they will give them an office, reserved parking and a secretary.  The truth is that the entry job they land they could have gotten with no degree. Now they have 100k of studen loans to pay.  They would have made more money opening up a deli or pizza store with that money.

My current MSc, that's the way I look at it, just a ticket to a job but the market in general is such shit outside of maybe Germany or Austria that who knows? No guarantees no matter how smart something is planned.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: flinstones1 on April 22, 2011, 08:14:29 AM
Other than not continuing playing baseball the biggest regret in my life was not finishing up my degree and actually experiencing a college life. Every time I step on campus at USC or UCLA (about twice a month to each) or when I visit other Universities around the country for seminars, I feel like I really missed out. I envy you guys that have went and experienced that "college life". I see the kids that I've worked with since they were in Jr. high through HS and some since even elementary school going on recruiting trips to different colleges, planning their lives, etc. The only thing I can do now is help some of these kids gain scholarships through their athletics (we've helped about 15-20) and help tutor to get their GPA's up for college, HS and just to stay in OUR program. (My wife is a credentialed teacher). Kick myself everyday.


lol your 5'5 aint like you would get drafted into professional baseball anyways


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Hulkotron on April 22, 2011, 08:17:35 AM
If you're getting a Ph.D. because you think it's going to lead to some grand high-paying job you probably haven't researched the situation very well.

Most people who get Ph.Ds do so because they want a job in academia or research and it's a requirement for that, not because more degrees = more $.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 22, 2011, 08:24:48 AM

lol your 5'5 aint like you would get drafted into professional baseball anyways

Well, farm leagues are technically professional ball clubs, I know I wouldn't have ever been called up but the reality is you're right and have been told that. Especially as a catcher and infielder.


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: The True Adonis on April 22, 2011, 10:48:25 AM
Well, farm leagues are technically professional ball clubs, I know I wouldn't have ever been called up but the reality is you're right and have been told that. Especially as a catcher and infielder.
Tell us,

What kind of "college life" would a pseudo-Jesus-Christ-Crusader hope to live and act out?  Pole Smoking and group prayer at the center square flag?  If thats the scenario, than you`d probably be in hog heaven.  And of course there are always the young Gay College Republicans to join. 


Title: Re: Universities that live off their prestige but actually offer little else:
Post by: che on April 22, 2011, 10:49:32 AM
Tell us,

What kind of "college life" would a pseudo-Jesus-Christ-Crusader hope to live and act out?  Pole Smoking and group prayer at the center square flag?  If thats the scenario, than you`d probably be in hog heaven.  And of course there are always the young Gay College Republicans to join. 

Haha