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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: affeman on April 23, 2011, 11:02:12 AM
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Fibo 2011 champ ??? Looks 5 weeks out to me.
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body is looking tired
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Time to hang it up...
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Shadow of his former self - looks like molten chocolate.
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hes done. i bet the money to buy chrome wheel spinners is in by now.
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Changed it to "The Fade"
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No, he's a "dull knife" now...
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more like a butter knife
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more like a butter knife
Hey I was going to post that...Dex "Butta Knife" Jackson
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starting to get an ole man physique like ronnie.
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Looks 100 times better than Jay or Branch and ten times more balanced than Heath.
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bad lights, bad oil use
def lost some size thou
how can u say 5 weeks out thou? i mean your not that pathetic
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Looks 100 times better than Jay or Branch.
That doesn't have to be a contradiction to the statement that he's getting the old men fysique.
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Why is so difficult to understand!
Is getting older and his receptors does not respond like before to anabolics drugs because he has been abusing for over 2 decades.
It happen to Coleman and Toney Freeman already.
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Dexter should retire and stop taking anabolics before his body develop PALUMBISMO!
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Dexter should retire and stop taking anabolics before his body develop PALUMBISMO!
If he goes clean he will flush down the hole showering.
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Why is so difficult to understand!
Is getting older and his receptors does not respond like before to anabolics drugs because he has been abusing for over 2 decades.
It happen to Coleman and Toney Freeman already.
I've heared that receptors BS plenty of times, can someone explain to me why that seems to happen only to pros, but not to Amateurs. Guys like Thomas Scheu or Hamdullah Aykutlu are pushing 50 and are close to their best ever.
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Shadow of his former self - looks like molten chocolate.
LOL ! Made me spit my water halfway across the room ! LOL !
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I've heared that receptors BS plenty of times, can someone explain to me why that seems to happen only to pros, but not to Amateurs. Guys like Thomas Scheu or Hamdullah Aykutlu are pushing 50 and are close to their best ever.
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its because we are uses doses of hgh and insulin you can only dream of using as amatuer,,and also we compete and work in bodybuilding for years over years the body just finished,,dex is not some no one,,he had GREAT CAREER,, dex is top 6 bodybuilders of all time ,,this is not someone you can laugh at ,,same as ron he is top 6 he surpassed ray and levrone and got himself up there with arnold ron dorian sergio haney ,,he even surpassed frank zane whish is hard to do
so top 6 of all time is not easy and not something to laugh at,, he is just at the end of his career which was out standing! going on 2 decades of competetive in higher levels,,
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He still has the best balance and symmetry of all the pros. Obviously the cleverest drug user
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somthing ive noticed over the years, fading condition= some kind of health problems... i hope its not the case, but theres a long list
heres a few... wheeler, prince, don long, shaun davies etc etc
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somthing ive noticed over the years, fading condition= some kind of health problems... i hope its not the case, but theres a long list
heres a few... wheeler, prince, don long, shaun davies etc etc
Yes..
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Could be interesting to see if Dex slimmed down a touch and came in as a Mr O 202 ;D
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not quite health with dex,,its more of that the kidnys doesnt clean water lik ethey used to ,,not because they are fucked...but because of age,,because of how long they been doing this,,its just age...a bodybuild wil start fall at 40 years old,,38-40 to be exact ,,im talkin highest level of competition not amatuer,,
we are blessed because it used ot be age 28....we extended it by good 10 years,,what do you think jason doesnt know its coming? he is prepared and ready he know he got a year or 2 and thats that,,he tru to make best out of it,,same for the rest at that age group
whats the common thing here?
german marcus...
goonter ....
denis j.......
jason cutler....
liar priest............
bobbie chik....
ron colman......
dex jax....
take a close look at their age....the age before quiting high competetive bodybuild.... all same zone....all end 30s,,,
now look back into the 70s and arnold,,,,it was 10 years younger
hgh gave us 10 extra years which i think is great ,,
insulina ruined us
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He obviously uses it but dexter doesn't have that abuse of insulin look of most other....Infact all pros, his waist is in check
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its because we are uses doses of hgh and insulin you can only dream of using as amatuer,,and also we compete and work in bodybuilding for years over years the body just finished,,dex is not some no one,,he had GREAT CAREER,, dex is top 6 bodybuilders of all time ,,this is not someone you can laugh at ,,same as ron he is top 6 he surpassed ray and levrone and got himself up there with arnold ron dorian sergio haney ,,he even surpassed frank zane whish is hard to do
so top 6 of all time is not easy and not something to laugh at,, he is just at the end of his career which was out standing! going on 2 decades of competetive in higher levels,,
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Why do you think Dexter is better than Shawn Ray and Kevin Levrone? I just don't see Dexter beating Shawn and Kevin at their best.
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not quite health with dex,,its more of that the kidnys doesnt clean water lik ethey used to ,,not because they are fucked...but because of age,,because of how long they been doing this,,its just age...a bodybuild wil start fall at 40 years old,,38-40 to be exact ,,im talkin highest level of competition not amatuer,,
we are blessed because it used ot be age 28....we extended it by good 10 years,,what do you think jason doesnt know its coming? he is prepared and ready he know he got a year or 2 and thats that,,he tru to make best out of it,,same for the rest at that age group
whats the common thing here?
german marcus...
goonter ....
denis j.......
jason cutler....
liar priest............
bobbie chik....
ron colman......
dex jax....
take a close look at their age....the age before quiting high competetive bodybuild.... all same zone....all end 30s,,,
now look back into the 70s and arnold,,,,it was 10 years younger
hgh gave us 10 extra years which i think is great ,,
insulina ruined us
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why you keep bashing slin... give me good results so far with no sides
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No he is not, this is the new Dexter "The Blade".
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I've heared that receptors BS plenty of times, can someone explain to me why that seems to happen only to pros, but not to Amateurs. Guys like Thomas Scheu or Hamdullah Aykutlu are pushing 50 and are close to their best ever.
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I will never step onstage until I have this kind of muscle quality
THAT is bodybuilding.
look at the fiber, the striations
that's just sick, crazy to look at
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dex looks great still,but he dosen't have that pop look to his muscle anymore.same thing happened to darrem charles he was in sick shape for yrs and then hit a wall and last yr competing just came in so so and bowed out gracefully.
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why you keep bashing slin... give me good results so far with no sides
Well, take a look at the current crop of slin boys...and pie faces...
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insulina will fuck up condition ,,it will grow you bigger ...in the gut! it will put some over all mass on you that will be considered size....but in reality if you want dorian like condition or this older fella in the picture here condition it takes no insulin to lower levels of insulina,,
the problem with dex is that he ewas tryin gto gain just little bit of extra lean muscle and he failed because his body doesnt want it why? because his body was fine with 180 lb ....looked great ...then he took it to 220 and won o and placed many times top 3 ....but now when he is older his body cant grow to new level not even 3lb...it always the same and if he try to go up to the weight of the jasons...in ratio...he just bnlurr his quality ,,,the size he gain is not really size it is water ...water between skin and muscle ,,he try to see how far he can take it due to the rest looking like shit anyway and him even when look less than his best ...still looking good,,but his bet doesnt work because in dex case he got to be 100% to win the big shows,,when he is 100% no one match dex jackson
top 6 bodybuilders of all time
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insulina will fuck up condition ,,it will grow you bigger ...in the gut! it will put some over all mass on you that will be considered size....but in reality if you want dorian like condition or this older fella in the picture here condition it takes no insulin to lower levels of insulina,,
the problem with dex is that he ewas tryin gto gain just little bit of extra lean muscle and he failed because his body doesnt want it why? because his body was fine with 180 lb ....looked great ...then he took it to 220 and won o and placed many times top 3 ....but now when he is older his body cant grow to new level not even 3lb...it always the same and if he try to go up to the weight of the jasons...in ratio...he just bnlurr his quality ,,,the size he gain is not really size it is water ...water between skin and muscle ,,he try to see how far he can take it due to the rest looking like shit anyway and him even when look less than his best ...still looking good,,but his bet doesnt work because in dex case he got to be 100% to win the big shows,,when he is 100% no one match dex jackson
top 6 bodybuilders of all time
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wait let me do it for you so you dont need to put too mcuh efort,,
hi dex!
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recent photos of him in md looked best ever.
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whats the common thing here?
german marcus...
goonter ....
denis j.......
jason cutler....
liar priest............
bobbie chik....
ron colman......
dex jax....
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Chick doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same list as these other "athletes."
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Hi dex lol
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No, Iran Barkley is
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Relax, guys.
You don't really think that he would treat the FIBO like a Mr Olympia, right?
Why go through all the bullshit and diuretics for this event?
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Ronnie Rockel deserved 1st place. Dex won because he is a bigger name.
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Ronnie Rockel deserved 1st place. Dex won because he is a bigger name.
same level ,,dex won because he was slightly bigger,,btu it was same level could go either way ,,when somethign can go either way you give it to the mr o ,,dex is mr o! he is not just regular bodybuild,,he dont talk about it much but he is mr o.... mr o no matter how many time you have it its like being president you always are mr o
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same level ,,dex won because he was slightly bigger,,btu it was same level could go either way ,,when somethign can go either way you give it to the mr o ,,dex is mr o! he is not just regular bodybuild,,he dont talk about it much but he is mr o.... mr o no matter how many time you have it its like being president you always are mr o
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Ronnie was multi-Mr. O when he was beaten by Gunter at the GNC show. Dex hasn't been Mr. O for the last 2 Olympias. You're right though, it was very close. In this case, I'd go with Ronnie's cuts over Dexter's slightly bigger physique. He was clearly off his usual conditioning and Ronnie was spot on.
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same level ,,dex won because he was slightly bigger,,btu it was same level could go either way ,,when somethign can go either way you give it to the mr o ,,dex is mr o! he is not just regular bodybuild,,he dont talk about it much but he is mr o.... mr o no matter how many time you have it its like being president you always are mr o
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Chris Dickerson of 2000s. ;D ;D
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Ronnie was multi-Mr. O when he was beaten by Gunter at the GNC show. Dex hasn't been Mr. O for the last 2 Olympias. You're right though, it was very close. In this case, I'd go with Ronnie's cuts over Dexter's slightly bigger physique. He was clearly off his usual conditioning and Ronnie was spot on.
id go with it too,,but you talk profesional bodybuild,,size then condition,,got to have both but condition come second to size ,,in the amatuers its conditioned size,,in the ifbb it is first size then condition,,if both have very similar levels it wil go to the mr o ,, the diff were slight,,infact ronnie looked alot more drugged up as in sick drugged up,,his muscles looked very chemically conditioned,,dex looked just ..well not sharp due to him playing with his wanting of extra 4-5 lb god knows why,,dex of 2003-2008 would be mr o last year
never the less,,one time mr o is enough for history books of bodybuild and no one remember anything else but who was mr o that year,,not alwyas right but thats how it is
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Relax, guys.
You don't really think that he would treat the FIBO like a Mr Olympia, right?
Why go through all the bullshit and diuretics for this event?
He looked like shit the entire season including last yrs Olympia and this years Arnolds, not only at this show. ::)
He was smaller and so off that he barely won the Fibo show, a line-up he'd have walked through laughing couple of years ago.
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He looked like shit the entire season including last yrs Olympia and this years Arnolds, not only at this show. ::)
He was smaller and so off that he barely won the Fibo show, a line-up he'd have walked through laughing couple of years ago.
Stick a fork in him, he's done. ;D ;D
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Just 1 year ago, he looked like this!
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How can anyone dis this guy he has none of the imperfections the others have. He misses about 10ibs of mass but he has symetrical abs unlike jay, no growth gut like ronney, jay and kai, wide chest unlike Phil. He doesn't have one body part with a wow factor because he is balanced!
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not quite health with dex,,its more of that the kidnys doesnt clean water lik ethey used to ,,not because they are fucked...but because of age,,because of how long they been doing this,,its just age...a bodybuild wil start fall at 40 years old,,38-40 to be exact ,,im talkin highest level of competition not amatuer,,
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Loooooooool you must be the best doctor in the whole Universe to able to prescribe what a “patient” suffer from by just seeing a picture of his ;D ;D ;D
This is the funnies joke I have ever read in Getbig :D :D :D
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Could be interesting to see if Dex slimmed down a touch and came in as a Mr O 202 ;D
He never was that much heavier, is definitively lighter than he claims to be.
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he just had a rough outing. You give him 2 months off, he'll stll come in top 4 at Olympia.
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Could be interesting to see if Dex slimmed down a touch and came in as a Mr O 202 ;D
He's won the real thing. Why would he waste his time with that?
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Loooooooool you must be the best doctor in the whole Universe to able to prescribe what a “patient” suffer from by just seeing a picture of his ;D ;D ;D
This is the funnies joke I have ever read in Getbig :D :D :D
well i tell you personal knowledge that his kidnys are ok!,,no health problem ,,problem is only age,,age will get to anyone ,,remember dex condition at prime is something no other bodyuilder got to aside from dead ones.... you forget that you talking about a bodybuild that won o and won many competitions including top 3 many many times due to his condition NOT SIZE,,conditioned size and winning in ifbb is something that not always happened ,,happened with dorian happened with haney ,,last one was dex,,no one did it last 10 years aside from dex and ron colman ,,both top 6 bodybuilder in history of bodybuilding,,
there is no doubt dex is top 6 in bodybuild history ,,any one who has doubt about it should look back to the last 10 years ,,even longer and see the record ,,dex is the best conditioned bodybuilder in history of bodybuilding askde from few dead ones and dorian,,
dorian and dex hold the title as best conditioned bodybuilders in the last 20 years
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now just so its clear,,sean didnt not have as good conditon as dex....what he did have is better MUSCLE SHAPE ,,his muscle flow was better than dex,,his condition wasnt,,,sean was what phil heath want to be so much and cant...but thats not enough for mr o friends
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,,dex is the best conditioned bodybuilder in history of bodybuilding askde from few dead ones and dorian,,
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lol QUOTE OF THE YEAR
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I don't think Dex is dying to bodybuild anymore.
He has probably developed other interests and a life.
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He spends too much time on getbig
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I've heared that receptors BS plenty of times, can someone explain to me why that seems to happen only to pros, but not to Amateurs. Guys like Thomas Scheu or Hamdullah Aykutlu are pushing 50 and are close to their best ever.
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pros= to much insulina and black men s kidneys (ask flex wheeler or don long how to fuck them up with diuretics)
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now just so its clear,,sean didnt not have as good conditon as dex....what he did have is better MUSCLE SHAPE ,,his muscle flow was better than dex,,his condition wasnt,,,sean was what phil heath want to be so much and cant...but thats not enough for mr o friends
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you must be kidding
dex was never as defined and conditioned like shawn ray
dex s condition = all ilusion because of shredded glutes and striaton on his delts
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well i tell you personal knowledge that his kidnys are ok!,,no health problem ,,problem is only age,,age will get to
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Lots of poeple have said the same thing about Ronnie Coleman beack in 2002 and guess what happened in 2003..? :D
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actually dex never was the legit blade
his condition was always average, he was totally overrated
real blade-condition looks like the kefalianos guy or münzer
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that s thin skin AND HE IS OLDER THAN DEX!!
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you must be kidding
dex was never as defined and conditioned like shawn ray
dex s condition = all ilusion because of shredded glutes and striaton on his delts
dex = much bigger than sean ray MUCH BIGGER AS IN MUSCLE BIGGER, 215-230 vs sean 205-210 you talking here good 15-20lb bigger than sean this is HUGE in bodybuilding HUGE ,,15 lb of lean muscle tissue in bodybuildign is huge diff if same condition
dex = better condition than sean ray ,,sean never had dex condition he had dex on muscle shape and flow to physiqe ,,he had better over all balance....but conditioning belong to dex
so while sean was better in muscle flow and shape,,,dexter waas bigger and more conditoned ,,and when you have both size and condition on someone + the symetry of the 2 was pretty equal because dex was VERY symetric...
than you have dex > sean ,,both top 12 bodybuilders of all time ....but dex belong with the top 6 and sean with the lower 6
what dex done in the last 13 years in bodybuilding as a smaller fella NO ONE else hs done,,EVER! look where all the wanna be liar priests,,and all the other 200lb fellas,,they all do 202 competitions they cant even hold candle to the big fellas while dex wiped the floor with them year after year,,
fellas we talk here top 3 o top tier bodybuild that still is the best bodybuild in the world,,
the best bodybuild is not jason and defenitely not that wanna be heath ,,the best bodybuild is stil dex jackson,,he is old and he will have trouble but he already done enough to get in the all time top 6 in history ,,so like ron he can leave peacfuly
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Lots of poeple have said the same thing about Ronnie Coleman beack in 2002 and guess what happened in 2003..? :D
you got me wrong here,, i never said dex is done completely ,,dex stil nwo day number one bodybuild in the world,, what i said is dex condition can nto be less than 100% and he try to get little bigger for what reason ? no one knows,,he cant and wont be able to ,,dex at 220 stil is mr o ,,he wipe the floor with jason when dex is 100% ,,the problem is dex need to be 100% not 95%
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Dexter is a superb pro - playing the genuine game of symmetry, aesthetics and condition in the age of bloated guts and mass-above-all "quality". In my opinion, the only truly deserved Mr.O title over the past 20 years...
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dex = much bigger than sean ray MUCH BIGGER AS IN MUSCLE BIGGER, 215-230 vs sean 205-210 you talking here good 15-20lb bigger than sean this is HUGE in bodybuilding HUGE ,,15 lb of lean muscle tissue in bodybuildign is huge diff if same condition
It has been well documented that Shawn competed between 205-215Ibs and Dexter Jackson competed at the very same range!
Dexter claims to be 230-235 has been raveled to be lies long time ago.
dex = better condition than sean ray ,,sean never had dex condition he had dex on muscle shape and flow to physiqe ,,he had better over all balance....but conditioning belong to dex
Dex Condition is not superior to Shawn’s!!
Shawn had sliced calves, Dex didn’t
Shawn had separated & striated quads and more detailed hams, Dex didn’t
Shawn had better biceps & triceps separation than Dex.
Both had striated gluts.
So overall, I think Shawn condition was much better than Dexter.
so while sean was better in muscle flow and shape,,,dexter waas bigger and more conditoned ,,and when you have both size and condition on someone + the symetry of the 2 was pretty equal because dex was VERY symetric...
than you have dex > sean ,,both top 12 bodybuilders of all time ....but dex belong with the top 6 and sean with the lower 6
Since Shawn Ray is one of the top 12 bodybuilders in your list, I am curious to know your own list from number 1 up to 12.
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Refer to my inputs please ;)
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Refer to my inputs please ;)
sean competed 205-210 how i know? i competed against him...
dex compete at 220-225lb now he try 230....thats why he is not sharp,, this give dex abotu 15 lean muscle tisue lbs over sean ...actualy 15-20 because sean is little taller
now in regarding condition ,,seperation has nothing to do with condition ,,it has to do with genetic muscle lines,,and genetic muscle seperation and your ability to know your chemicals and your body well and how they work... being sliced doeesnt mean being in conditon ,,for example that is easy for understanding ...take my pupil stavios...probably best condition on stage out of all this boarding right? yet he is not sliced and seperated to the level to match his condition ,,its due to muscle shape and muscle structure and also due to chemical approach but mainly muscle shape....
so sean did have great condition but it never matched dex at his best,,if it did sean would have been mr o...sean had great condition for the size he had,,which was smaller alot smaller than dex,,again 15lb is HUGE in bodybuildi if its lean muscle when 2 stand same bodyfat,,
both sean and dex had great condition but! reason you were more impressed with sean is his MUSCLE SHAPE thats exactly same reason yuo like phillip heath ...muscle shape and lines which has not much to do with condition which ANYONE can have...
again the diff are not that big in condition but dex was better than sean when it comes to conditioned size,,first because he ws bigger but with out connection to size ...he had better condition period and with the added size it just make him a no doubt winner in the condition department,,his muscle didnt flow as well as sean ,,his body parts didnt match eachother with the balance sean had...but over all symetry was similar and his condition and size were better than sean when both in their best
so thats that
12 best top 6 buttom 6
arnold
ron
sergio
dorian
hainey
dexjax
reeves
zane
samir
sean
levrone
labrada
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You can't be as striated at this weight, if dexbwas shawns weight he would be more shredded but to have Tue extra weight you MUST hold water from the growth otherwise that extra size simply won't exist. The condition is the same the water isnt.
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sean competed 205-210 how i know? i competed against him...
dex compete at 220-225lb now he try 230....thats why he is not sharp,, this give dex abotu 15 lean muscle tisue lbs over sean ...actualy 15-20 because sean is little taller
now in regarding condition ,,seperation has nothing to do with condition ,, with that point you proofed yourselfe wrong, because even if dex would have been more conditioned (what he wasn t), condition is not as important as definition. in BB its about working out the anatomic details of the body/muscle, seperation, striations and so on. beeing dry/hard alone is worth nothing, look at warren, he s hard and dry thanks to tons of diuretics but a guy like flex wheller looks 10x more impressiv because his god given details/seperation, even if he s a little soft as usuall. you have to make a decision, is dex better than shawn, than you have to say he was more definde (a point you already gave to shawn) or is he "just" dryer . if you go with your "shawn had better seperation" it means shawn was better, because they WERE THE SAME SIZE (met both several times in person) plus minus 5lbs depending on the specific contest - btw. dex was his shaprest around 1999 when he was around 195lbs ( and with a lot of oil in his calfes that hold him down because it lokk like a joke), after that he lost his sharpness with every pound he gained , good for him that he maintained his "blade legend" it has to do with genetic muscle lines,,and genetic muscle seperation and your ability to know your chemicals and your body well and how they work... being sliced doeesnt mean being in conditon ,,for example that is easy for understanding ...take my pupil stavios...probably best condition on stage out of all this boarding right? yet he is not sliced and seperated to the level to match his condition ,,its due to muscle shape and muscle structure and also due to chemical approach but mainly muscle shape....
so sean did have great condition but it never matched dex at his best,,if it did sean would have been mr o...sean had great condition for the size he had,,which was smaller alot smaller than dex,,again 15lb is HUGE in bodybuildi if its lean muscle when 2 stand same bodyfat,,
both sean and dex had great condition but! reason you were more impressed with sean is his MUSCLE SHAPE thats exactly same reason yuo like phillip heath ...muscle shape and lines which has not much to do with condition which ANYONE can have...
again the diff are not that big in condition but dex was better than sean when it comes to conditioned size,,first because he ws bigger but with out connection to size ...he had better condition period and with the added size it just make him a no doubt winner in the condition department,,his muscle didnt flow as well as sean ,,his body parts didnt match eachother with the balance sean had...but over all symetry was similar and his condition and size were better than sean when both in their best
so thats that
12 best top 6 buttom 6
arnold
ron
sergio
dorian
hainey
dexjax
reeves
zane
samir
sean
levrone
labrada
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btw: this was not shawns best condition ;)
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Looks 100 times better than Jay or Branch and ten times more balanced than Heath.
x2.
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woah that fella is shredded, there a not a lot bbers where you can see the muscle groups so good defined
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Yates-ish back.
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shawnie
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gh15, what do you think of australian fella mike kefalianos in these pictures and consistant top 5 placings for a guy that is "no name" and not americano??
imo,i beleive im looking at some quality freaky fucken muscle here in these pictures...
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gh15, what do you think of australian fella mike kefalianos in these pictures and consistant top 5 placings for a guy that is "no name" and not americano??
imo,i beleive im looking at some quality freaky fucken muscle here in these pictures...
You mean the Greek guy who got his Pro card via Australia? Dude is ripped up, has a great back, but a really, really shitty structure...he is like another Paco, with a Hielko face...
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You mean the Greek guy who got his Pro card via Australia? Dude is ripped up, has a great back, but a really, really shitty structure...he is like another Paco, with a Hielko face...
Kefalianos has a VERY nice quality to his muscle. Not the best structure but the rest is top notch among the current crop IMO.
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You mean the Greek guy who got his Pro card via Australia? Dude is ripped up, has a great back, but a really, really shitty structure...he is like another Paco, with a Hielko face...
however the fuken fairtale goes. who gives a shit. im talking purely about that muscle right there in those pics, structure aside! :o
paco wont be top 5 at a pro show. this guy is, but what is surprising and goes against all the consporiacy theorys is that it is some guy that cant put a simple english sentance together, doesnt or isnt americano and didnt even work on "paying his dues"....but where is he? always top5 consistatnly and judges dont even knwo the guys name!
against all ifbb conspiracy theorys right there. why? ...look to the muscle quality. it is UNBELEIVABLE! so good that if judges turned a blind eye to this non english speaking, non americano fella with ZERO!! paying of dues, then it would be TOO OBVIOUS they are corrupt. they cant deny him.
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Kefalianos has a VERY nice quality to his muscle. Not the best structure but the rest is top notch among the current crop IMO.
Didnt say he didn't, he just looks like the bad guy in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen who took too much of Dr. Jeckyll's serum...exceptional muscle quality, very shitty structure
SS, dude looks good in those pics, taken from those angles, but unfortunately, contests aren't just by photoshoot pics that have been put thru Photoshop.
Dude has that pop to his muscles on stage, but, he wouldn't be able to compare to Dex or even Shawn Ray---only in the conditioning dept...so stop whining. Dude has great muscle quality, but is structurally effed up, and has smallish arms for the amount of muscle he is carrying. That being said, I would place him above Branch and above JOJ, and maybe even above Wolf, if Wolf came out of shape
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Gh15 sorry but you didn't compete against shawn his last Olympia was 2001 with only ronny and jay from current line up. You are neither.
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Gh15 sorry but you didn't compete against shawn his last Olympia was 2001 with only ronny and jay from current line up. You are neither.
i competed against sean
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How surely not at an olympia?
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friend,,i really think you dont remember who dexter jackson is,, first and formost he is much biger than sean ,,not 2lb not 4lb ,,,you are talking 15lb of lean tissue bigger on stage! at his prime! dexter is truly 220-225 on stage not 205 not 210 ,, secondly i said sean had better muscle flow,,and muscle shape.... dexter had better condition ,,he was bigger! he was more conditioned! the differences are not very big in the condition department but they are quite big in the size department as said 15 lb is big differece infact huge difference when its lean tissue,,its indeed because of gh and some slin usage
not to forget! dexter is mr o ,,he won the big one,,and he won many smaller ones including doing the all sean placings of top 3 for years over years,, sean had him on proportions and muscle shape,, there is a diff between muscle shape and condition ,,seperation can be there even if you look like philip heath and mustafa ,,definition is a matter of body fat and muscle shape and size....they both had great definition ,,
i said in bible 5 years back that the day will come where i will give my verdict inregard to dex and that day arrived,,he is top 6 bodybuilder of all time,,NO ONE in bodybuilding history aside from dorian yates and andreas the dead got to his condition level,,he and dorian won o based on CONDITION! only he did it at 220-225lb.... much smaller than any one of the mass monsters of the last 20 years....yes 5'6 220 is like 5'10 250...but! its still les than 260 270 and as i said 10-20 lb of lean muscle tissue is HUGE DIFF when the bodybuilders are same bodyfat levels
to refresh your memory a bit i shall demonstare what i say ,,
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those are pcitures i just chose with otu even taking second look at,, he was just that! good,,again you seem to nto understand the level taqlked about here,,he may very well be the BEST sub 5'8 bodybuilder to ever walk planet earth ,,ever!
he is defenitely top 6 bodybuilder of all time,,his condition only matched by 2 ....dorian yates,, and dead andreas,, so it leaves us with dorian and dex ,, both top 6 bodybuilder of all time
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Honestly I'm not that impressed with Dexters conditioning either, I have no clue what you're talking about. Mike K is def more conditioned than Dex, probably even Paco.
Also Dexters lower body has always been way behind his upper body conditioning-wise, never had much detail in the hamstring area.
He had a well balanced physique with no real weak points (except calves) and came in with decent conditioning every show. He solely lived from the failures of others, when other people where way off, Dexter was ready to sneak in. When guys like Branch, Kai, Phil, Jay, Ronnie, Victor were on - no chance for Dex.
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Honestly I'm not that impressed with Dexters conditioning either, I have no clue what you're talking about. Mike K is def more conditioned than Dex, probably even Paco.
Also Dexters lower body has always been way behind his upper body conditioning-wise, never had much detail in the hamstring area.
He had a well balanced physique with no real weak points (except calves) and came in with decent conditioning every show. He solely lived from the failures of others, when other people where way off, Dexter was ready to sneak in. When guys like Branch, Kai, Phil, Jay, Ronnie, Victor were on - no chance for Dex.
TAKE
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LOOK
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220-230lb male with waist that is truly 28-30 inches! ,,the paco mutation is dependent of drugs and only drugs and carry 40 inch eaist,,the other fella in the picturs here also have wide wider waist and not by small margin ,,
notice the common thing between dex and sean is the size of waissssssssssssssst
bodybuilding mesure by the size of their waist to delts ratio ,,,when you hold small waist and bring such condition like dex did you become invinsible which is what he became ,,he didnt leave up to failures of others,, you cant even compare branch to dex because branch,,kai ,,victor all those fellas are not even in the 100 bodybuilders of all time they are all 100-200 zone
dexter condition in the era he compete in which has lots of gh and insulina is SUPERB TO ANY OTHER FELLAS AROUND IN THIS ERA ,,dorian was nto in this era....andreas neither,,
remember ,,symetry ,,condition ,,size,,you ned to have all 3 to be considered great and top bodybuilder of the top caliber ,,many of the ones you say lack in many aspects ,,
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GOOD GRIEF
Dex conditioning is up there with Munzer, Dorian and Aykutlug ... we forget how good he was ... also won the big one
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in other words....
ron colman is what they want phil heath to be so much and phil cant deliver because he is not a freak ....he is fake blw up doll
lee labrada is what dex jackson is ...only dex delivered it beter than labrada as in taking it to the next level...of symetry condition and he brought home the sizeeeeee ,,so unlike phillip that cant and wont ever deliver a ron colman to the ones who so want him to be lol ...dexter along the years tooook the physiqes of lee labrada,,frank zane,, and make them better via bigger size,,better condition ,,and same symetry !
show you the progress of bodybuild and the degration in 2 comparisons
problem is dex is about to hang it sooner than later,,and no one in sight to carry bodybuilding,,NO ONE
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Dex got the nickname "Blade" because his favorite movie is "Blade" AND because of his conditioning...not just because of his conditioning...
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Dexter isn't what he was but he's still got a damn good physique.
If you're still finishing top 6 in the Olympia and Arnold I wouldn't retire.
I'd take his physique over the fridge and the gnome any fucking day.
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He's still the best with rocking rocky ronny lol. All other 6 o contenders look like shit. No symmetry and fat bellys. I don't care if you can see the abs. If your gut sticks out further than your chest you look like shit. Judges are size queens how gay is that?
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ok room shots
than he looks soft copared to this
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Dexter isn't what he was but he's still got a damn good physique.
If you're still finishing top 6 in the Olympia and Arnold I wouldn't retire.
I'd take his physique over the fridge and the gnome any fucking day.
Me too, but we were talking bodybuilding...
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ok room shots
than he looks soft copared to this
you just showed me picture of best bodybuilder in history ,,,duh,, same condition as dex in most of his career but! the reasonit show better in some pictures is because ron colman carrrrrrrrrrried more lean muscle,,more muscle same bodyfat =muscle will show better and you will think conditionis better...in reality both have about same condition ..dex slightly sharper...ron more muscle tissue
its hard to compare ron at his best to anyone
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(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/4485d1115433206-dexter-jackson-ninja-turtle-dex.jpg)
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Dexter was always very evenly conditioned. From head to toe and front to back, sharp all over. He is starting to lose that now, but age catches up with everyone.
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its because we are uses doses of hgh and insulin you can only dream of using as amatuer,,and also we compete and work in bodybuilding for years over years the body just finished,,dex is not some no one,,he had GREAT CAREER,, dex is top 6 bodybuilders of all time ,,this is not someone you can laugh at ,,same as ron he is top 6 he surpassed ray and levrone and got himself up there with arnold ron dorian sergio haney ,,he even surpassed frank zane whish is hard to do
so top 6 of all time is not easy and not something to laugh at,, he is just at the end of his career which was out standing! going on 2 decades of competetive in higher levels,,
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Good post, GH.
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How can anyone dis this guy he has none of the imperfections the others have. He misses about 10ibs of mass but he has symetrical abs unlike jay, no growth gut like ronney, jay and kai, wide chest unlike Phil. He doesn't have one body part with a wow factor because he is balanced!
first: there's nothing jay can do about how his abs appear staggered. symmetrical/asymmetrical is determined by birth. so leave that out. same with phil's narrow clavicles. but i agree with you about dexter's balance. he has probably THE most symmetrical, balanced, well proportioned and in my opinion aesthetic physic of today's top pro's.
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never impressed by the Blade's quad separation and detail
Sean Rhey beats him all day long
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(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/4485d1115433206-dexter-jackson-ninja-turtle-dex.jpg)
honestly, this is Dex' best shot ever.
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dex = much bigger than sean ray MUCH BIGGER AS IN MUSCLE BIGGER, 215-230 vs sean 205-210 you talking here good 15-20lb bigger than sean this is HUGE in bodybuilding HUGE ,,15 lb of lean muscle tissue in bodybuildign is huge diff if same condition
dex = better condition than sean ray ,,sean never had dex condition he had dex on muscle shape and flow to physiqe ,,he had better over all balance....but conditioning belong to dex
so while sean was better in muscle flow and shape,,,dexter waas bigger and more conditoned ,,and when you have both size and condition on someone + the symetry of the 2 was pretty equal because dex was VERY symetric...
than you have dex > sean ,,both top 12 bodybuilders of all time ....but dex belong with the top 6 and sean with the lower 6
what dex done in the last 13 years in bodybuilding as a smaller fella NO ONE else hs done,,EVER! look where all the wanna be liar priests,,and all the other 200lb fellas,,they all do 202 competitions they cant even hold candle to the big fellas while dex wiped the floor with them year after year,,
fellas we talk here top 3 o top tier bodybuild that still is the best bodybuild in the world,,
the best bodybuild is not jason and defenitely not that wanna be heath ,,the best bodybuild is stil dex jackson,,he is old and he will have trouble but he already done enough to get in the all time top 6 in history ,,so like ron he can leave peacfuly
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I beg to differ- 94 olympia Shawn Ray beats ANY version of Dexter Jackson hands down.
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i competed against sean
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So, you're a male pro bodybuilder this time? Two years ago, you were a female bodybuilder. Maybe you're similar to that victim who got beat up at that McDonalds restaurant.
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So, you're a male pro bodybuilder this time? Two years ago, you were a female bodybuilder. Maybe you're similar to that victim who got beat up at that McDonalds restaurant.
for two years you have believed the gh15 character was posting as a female? despite the thousands of posts since then? and for some reason with a single post like "i competed against sean" it has clicked to you just NOW that the gh15 character is posting as a male?
really?
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So, you're a male pro bodybuilder this time? Two years ago, you were a female bodybuilder. Maybe you're similar to that victim who got beat up at that McDonalds restaurant.
you must be one thick dude
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So, you're a male pro bodybuilder this time? Two years ago, you were a female bodybuilder. Maybe you're similar to that victim who got beat up at that McDonalds restaurant.
I always knew/assumed he was a male - he has said in the past he competed against the guys from that era - never read him saying he was a female though female bodybuilders do look like men :D
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I stand corrected gh15 did compete against him 2001 Olympia.
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I always knew/assumed he was a male - he has said in the past he competed against the guys from that era - never read him saying he was a female though female bodybuilders do look like men :D
I called him to task on his claims of being a top-10 Olympia competitor (with the assumption that we were talking about the MEN'S competition), to which he replied that he never claimed to be a men's top-10 competitor.
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for two years you have believed the gh15 character was posting as a female? despite the thousands of posts since then? and for some reason with a single post like "i competed against sean" it has clicked to you just NOW that the gh15 character is posting as a male?
really?
You think this goof is an Olympia competitor!!
REALLY??
The guy with the identity crisis and broken Speak-N-Spell, a top-10 Olympia competitor.
REALLY!!??
The guy who said that being a bodybuilder means not having a serious job like being an engineer, only to wedge his foot in his mouth, when I pointed out to him that two IFBB pros, Lee Labrada and Nasser El Sonbaty both have engineering degrees? Then, when he wailed about Labrada not building any rockets, it appears that he doesn't quite get that CIVIL ENGINEERS (what Labrada is) usually don't built spacecraft.
Or, the guy who claimed that Labrada's supplement company funded his bodybuilding career, only to get embarrassed AGAIN, when I informed him that Labrada didn't even start his company, until AFTER HE RETIRED.
Being a cop isn't a serious job, he said, after reminding him that Ronnie won half of his Olympias while working as a full-time police officer.
And, you think this fool is an top-10 Olympia competitor? REALLY?
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Dex is top 5 of any line up from day 1 to now. He was just a couple of weeks shy of his best. Was still enough in this line up.
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You think this goof is an Olympia competitor!!
REALLY??
The guy with the identity crisis and broken Speak-N-Spell, a top-10 Olympia competitor.
REALLY!!??
The guy who said that being a bodybuilder means not having a serious job like being an engineer, only to wedge his foot in his mouth, when I pointed out to him that two IFBB pros, Lee Labrada and Nasser El Sonbaty both have engineering degrees? Then, when he wailed about Labrada not building any rockets, it appears that he doesn't quite get that CIVIL ENGINEERS (what Labrada is) usually don't built spacecraft.
Or, the guy who claimed that Labrada's supplement company funded his bodybuilding career, only to get embarrassed AGAIN, when I informed him that Labrada didn't even start his company, until AFTER HE RETIRED.
Being a cop isn't a serious job, he said, after reminding him that Ronnie won half of his Olympias while working as a full-time police officer.
And, you think this fool is an top-10 Olympia competitor? REALLY?
top 6!
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top 6!
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.....only if every IFBB pro gets shot and you're onstage with 5 mirrors.
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Who the hell do you get death threats off? Every amature thanks you for taking them to the next level and every drug dealer thanks you for uping their sales. Instead of 100bucks of test and deca people are.buying 100's of pounds worth of growth and tren. Everyone wins so what's the reason behind death threats you say you get?
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Who the hell do you get death threats off? Every amature thanks you for taking them to the next level and every drug dealer thanks you for uping their sales. Instead of 100bucks of test and deca people are.buying 100's of pounds worth of growth and tren. Everyone wins so what's the reason behind death threats you say you get?
PLEASE!!!
This dope claims that he's second only to Arnold as being the most successful bodybuilder of all time, that he has more than Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler combined. But, all his money comes from selling drugs.
But don't take my word for it: Here's this drivel in his own words (June 13, 2009):
there are better examples of fellas that did half ass job such as cop or acting or mechanics or having supp stores but trust me on that ,,,the most sucesfull bodybuilder of all time is me and arnold ,,,arnold made it in the movie industry and politics and i made is in the hormone world,,we are very similar since our fortunes is high in comparison to other bodybuilders along the years ,,yes i have more than ron and jay combined and so is yoru hero arnold
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Only dorian yates. But he isn't current top 6
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Who the hell do you get death threats off? Every amature thanks you for taking them to the next level and every drug dealer thanks you for uping their sales. Instead of 100bucks of test and deca people are.buying 100's of pounds worth of growth and tren. Everyone wins so what's the reason behind death threats you say you get?
many psycotic individual around,,along the years,,remember the big wars among dealers,,the lies ,,the outting,,no one want to be put in light,,look how many of us lie to your face,,
you have here keyopmi moodi and chris faildoo come to this boarding on regular basis TELLING YOU THEY ARE NATURAL ,,they do it eveyr single time for years...you have layme noron sit and PROUD on being natural when he knows he knows what he order and he order on REGULAR BASIS,,
they all up to make a buck the eaiest way possible ,,and they will stop at nothing,,that include elimination of gh15 in any way possible,,some absolitly HATE AND DESPIZE gh15 and i mean serious serious hate
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PLEASE!!!
This dope claims that he's second only to Arnold as being the most successful bodybuilder of all time, that he has more than Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler combined. But, all his money comes from selling drugs.
But don't take my word for it: Here's this drivel in his own words (June 13, 2009):
there are better examples of fellas that did half ass job such as cop or acting or mechanics or having supp stores but trust me on that ,,,the most sucesfull bodybuilder of all time is me and arnold ,,,arnold made it in the movie industry and politics and i made is in the hormone world,,we are very similar since our fortunes is high in comparison to other bodybuilders along the years ,,yes i have more than ron and jay combined and so is yoru hero arnold
i also made lots of money from contracts ,,and if i took the offer gh15 get for deals i would even make mor emoney but i dont ned money comfortably financialy stable: )
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i also made lots of money from contracts ,,and if i took the offer gh15 get for deals i would even make mor emoney but i dont ned money comfortably financialy stable: )
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What you are is a liar and a fraud. I've ripped your pitiful posts to pieces years ago, to the point where I simply got bored. When you get a clue, a spelling tutor, and figure out which gender you want to be and which Olympia you supposedly placed top 10, maybe you'll be able to post something that makes some sense.
There ain't enough narcotics on this planet to convince anyone with some sense that you are second to Schwarzenegger, in terms of bodybuilding success. And certainly, not more accomplished than Coleman and Cutler.
So, put away your delusions of grandeur and William Llewelyn's "Steroids for Dummies" and get some sense. PLEASE!!!
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I don't get it you haven't ousted a single drug dealer. You've just named true steroid cycles. Lee liar priest gobbed off for years against people nothing came of it. If your anonymous why not post the people who have threatened you then you have all us as whitnesses
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i've heard *may be innacurate* that ronnie's job as a police officer was or at least became part time or on call. and then i've also heard that he was caught speeding in another state, pulled over, claimed he was a cop even though he technically wasn't and was then charged with impersonating a police officer and stripped of all association to the police.
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What you are is a liar and a fraud. I've ripped your pitiful posts to pieces years ago, to the point where I simply got bored. When you get a clue, a spelling tutor, and figure out which gender you want to be and which Olympia you supposedly placed top 10, maybe you'll be able to post something that makes some sense.
There ain't enough narcotics on this planet to convince anyone with some since that you are second to Schwarzenegger, in terms of bodybuilding success. And certainly, not more accomplished than Coleman and Cutler.
So, put away your delusions of grandeur and William Llewelyn's "Steroids for Dummies" and get some sense. PLEASE!!!
this fella relay think i read steroid books from william lol ,,i fuckin wrote those materials before william even thought about getting into the field,,
you are just mad that i outtd every single one of your so call natural heros that were and are hormonized to the max! ,,this is why you are really mad ,,but after all its ok ,,better one mad man thna 1000s of misguided individuals...
and yes im one of the richest fellas out of bodybuilding ,,R I C H E S T
im talking millions!
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gh15 can you give me a couple grand so i can get huge?
:D
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im thinking this dude is mr ron coleman himself!!! think of the broken english and the way he talks, southern, choppy english like he has done in public time again.
maybe?
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I thought that as he would also have the legal connections. However Ron comes across on video as dumb as. Could be dorian. Or could have made millions from gh sales not the industry
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dorian is a very good guess, woudl like to know but again could be some nobody blowing smoke up arses lol
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this fella relay think i read steroid books from william lol ,,i fuckin wrote those materials before william even thought about getting into the field,,
you are just mad that i outtd every single one of your so call natural heros that were and are hormonized to the max! ,,this is why you are really mad ,,but after all its ok ,,better one mad man thna 1000s of misguided individuals...
and yes im one of the richest fellas out of bodybuilding ,,R I C H E S T
im talking millions!
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Oh we know u are, god of hormones. ;D
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Burdens is not as good a bodybuilder as gh15 claims he is
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this fella relay think i read steroid books from william lol ,,i fuckin wrote those materials before william even thought about getting into the field,,
you are just mad that i outtd every single one of your so call natural heros that were and are hormonized to the max! ,,this is why you are really mad ,,but after all its ok ,,better one mad man thna 1000s of misguided individuals...
and yes im one of the richest fellas out of bodybuilding ,,R I C H E S T
im talking millions!
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GET REAL!!! You are a clown with a broken Speak-N-Spell, who can't even decide which gender or which Olympia you pretended to be a top-10 competitor.
A top-10 competitor could careless about natural bodybuilders or those who claim to be such. And as for my being "mad", hardly!! Making you look like a world-class buffoon is hardly a source of anger. On the contrary, it's comic relief.
So, O fradulent one, keep deluding yourself into thinking you're something that any one with two functioning brain cells knows you are not. I can use more chuckles!!
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im thinking this dude is mr ron coleman himself!!! think of the broken english and the way he talks, southern, choppy english like he has done in public time again.
maybe?
yip yip.