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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on April 27, 2011, 12:36:39 PM
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i could turn your mom straight with my steroid cock
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BB Lex Reeves welcome.
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Maybe you should stop reminiscing about the "old" days,get on some gear and shut the fuck up :)
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Dude's right. These modern bodybuilding routines (of, say, the last four or so decades) are designed with the drug-enhanced trainer in mind.
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Steroids have given certain lifters the ability to lift weights up to six days a week, sometimes twice a day! It's unnatural and its assinine. These guys are digging an early grave. In my day it was three full body workouts per week and plenty of eggs, beef and peanut butter sandwiches along with gallons of milk. I could turn anyone in here into a muscle-man without steroids.
No one I can think of in this day and age of bodybuilding trains twice per day with weights, if anything most have bought in the fallacy that training one body part per day, once a week actually works.....well, with drug users anything works, but with non-drug users it's a waste of time. if they do train twice per day, it's usually a slow "cardio" session either in the morning or evening.
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3 Philadelphia officers, 12 others charged in steroid bust
By Marina Landis, CNN
April 27, 2011 3:43 p.m. EDT
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Police detective charged with distributing steroids, HGH nationally
Man picked up some shipments at UPS, indictment says
(CNN) -- Three members of the Philadelphia police department and 12 others are being charged with conspiracy to distribute anabolic steroids, U.S. Attorney Zane David Memeger announced Wednesday.
The charges against the defendants, including Philadelphia Police Detective Keith Gidelson, a 14-year department veteran, and fellow police officers Joseph McIntyre and George Sambuca, come after a lengthy investigation by the Philadelphia Police Department's Internal Affairs Anti-Corruption Task Force, the FBI and the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.
"Another dark day for our department, but one that certainly does not reflect the good work that goes on every single day by the men and women of this department," Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles H. Ramsey said. "Unfortunately, we do have some that tarnish the badge and continue to do so and we will very aggressively continue to go after them and get them out of our ranks."
According to the 17-count federal indictment, Gidelson operated an anabolic steroid and human growth hormone distribution organization in Philadelphia and throughout the U.S. It's alleged that he got monthly shipments from foreign suppliers in Europe and China, some from a rented UPS mailbox.
Gidelson and his wife Kirsten allegedly stored and packaged steroids and HGH at their Philadelphia home. The indictment says the couple would meet drug customers, including some of the defendants, at their home and at fitness centers in the Philadelphia area to distribute the drugs. Gidelson also allegedly distributed to customers across the U.S. whom he met through online weightlifting chat rooms.
In a press release, Memeger said, "Police officers swear an oath to uphold the law. When an officer breaks the law, no matter the infraction, he not only violates his oath, he violates the public's trust. This indictment alleges that three officers placed personal gain ahead of their duty to protect and serve."
Ramsey has suspended all three for 30 days with the intent to dismiss.
All 15 defendants are now in custody. Each count charged carries a maximum possible sentence of 10 years imprisonment and $250,000 fine.
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No one I can think of in this day and age of bodybuilding trains twice per day with weights, if anything most have bought in the fallacy that training one body part per day, once a week actually works.....well, with drug users anything works, but with non-drug users it's a waste of time. if they do train twice per day, it's usually a slow "cardio" session either in the morning or evening.
I tried the "one part a day once a week" thing for about a couple months earlier this year and gained jack shit.
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No one I can think of in this day and age of bodybuilding trains twice per day with weights, if anything most have bought in the fallacy that training one body part per day, once a week actually works.....well, with drug users anything works, but with non-drug users it's a waste of time. if they do train twice per day, it's usually a slow "cardio" session either in the morning or evening.
I've done it from time to time, no roids needed. It usually works best when training a smaller bodypart early in the morning and a larger bodyparts in the afternoon.
Most of the time, it's the usual training four times per week (Upper body on Mondays and Thursdays; legs on Tuesdays and Fridays).
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this smells like a Gimmick all over
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You must train the wholw body three days per week. Squats, bench press, chin-ups, barbell presses, deadlifts, etc. Marvin could bench over 500 lbs steroid free. Drugs are for sick people. If you are not sick and take drugs you're a creep and a sissy.
BBLR what do you bench?
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this smells like a Gimmick all over
Seems like we get a new crop every week these days....too many.
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Oh at my age I don't bench much at all. Sets with 225, could press 315 once or twice I imagine. Tough on these old joints.
Not bad for an older fella.
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GIMMICK ALERT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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No one I can think of in this day and age of bodybuilding trains twice per day with weights, if anything most have bought in the fallacy that training one body part per day, once a week actually works.....well, with drug users anything works, but with non-drug users it's a waste of time. if they do train twice per day, it's usually a slow "cardio" session either in the morning or evening.
Coach,based on your experince as a trainer, what do you think is the best routine for a natural bodybuilder?
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Do the following Mon,Wed, and Fri:
Squats 3x20
Pullovers 3x20
Bench Press:3x10
Chin Ups: 3x15
Overhead Press: 3x10
Barbell Curls: 3x10
French Curls: 3x10
Slant Board Sit Ups:3X15
Be sure to superset the Squats with the Pullovers. Drink a gallon of whole milk throughout the day. Eat plenty of steaks, eggs and peanut butter sandwiches. Rest on your off days. Keep away from any creeps who take steroids.
I AGREE WITH THIS R0UTINE IN THE BEGGINING. H0WEVER, 0NCE THE WEIGHT GETS HEAVY, Y0U W0N'T BE ABLE T0 KEEP UP THE INTENSITY IN THE SAME W0RK0UT. I W0ULD ACTUALLY RECC0MEND. Y0U HAVE A PUSH,PULL,AND A LEG W0RK0UT. TW0 HEAVY PRESSING M0VEMENTS IN THE SAME W0RK0UT W0ULD BE T00 MUCH 0N THE J0INTS. F0R EXAMPLE 0NCE Y0U START BENCHING 225 BLS, THERE'S N0 WAY Y0U'D BE ABLE T0 ALS0 D0 ALL TH0SE 0THER EXERCISES HEAVY LIKE MILITARY PRESS. WITH 3 EXERCISES Y0U CAN. ALS0 N0 REAS0N T0 DRINK A GALL0N 0F MILK A DAY. THAT'S 0VERKILL. UNLESS Y0U WANT T0 GET FAT.
M,W,F
BENCH PRESS
SQUATS
B-R0WS
S0ME ARM W0RK0UT AT THE END.
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Do the following Mon,Wed, and Fri:
Squats 3x20
Pullovers 3x20
Bench Press:3x10
Chin Ups: 3x15
Overhead Press: 3x10
Barbell Curls: 3x10
French Curls: 3x10
Slant Board Sit Ups:3X15
Be sure to superset the Squats with the Pullovers. Drink a gallon of whole milk throughout the day. Eat plenty of steaks, eggs and peanut butter sandwiches. Rest on your off days. Keep away from any creeps who take steroids.
Great old school lifter gimmick. I take it you've read super squats?
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Steroids have given certain lifters the ability to lift weights up to six days a week, sometimes twice a day! It's unnatural and its assinine. These guys are digging an early grave. In my day it was three full body workouts per week and plenty of eggs, beef and peanut butter sandwiches along with gallons of milk. I could turn anyone in here into a muscle-man without steroids.
Haven't you been banned already twice before ::)
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I've never been banned from anywhere in my life. That's because I respect myself, those around me and I repected my parents. How about you?
Get screwed - does that answer your question cock breath
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I remember Billy Pearl Posing in 1971, he would have blown this lump of cheese Jay Cutler off the stage!
Hate to burst your bubble but Billy was on GEAR(drugs as u call them) when you saw him .. ;D
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No one I can think of in this day and age of bodybuilding trains twice per day with weights, if anything most have bought in the fallacy that training one body part per day, once a week actually works.....well, with drug users anything works, but with non-drug users it's a waste of time. if they do train twice per day, it's usually a slow "cardio" session either in the morning or evening.
I do and I love it
of course I don't go to faillure as much tho, but more volume
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Nonsense. John Grimek would bench over 400 for reps, military press in thr high 200's and squat in th low five hundreds for twenty reps all in the same workout three days per week. Same with Reg Park. You guys today pussyfoot around the weights like you're gonna die if you put in a real workout. That's why you'll never look like a man.
THEY WERE 0N GEAR.
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No one I can think of in this day and age of bodybuilding trains twice per day with weights, if anything most have bought in the fallacy that training one body part per day, once a week actually works.....well, with drug users anything works, but with non-drug users it's a waste of time. if they do train twice per day, it's usually a slow "cardio" session either in the morning or evening.
AGREED - Today's stuff is all about gimmicks. In reality a few basic exercises hitting the whole body 2-3 times a week will always work best for naturals. All the negativety on hear comes from guys who rely on drugs for 99% of their muscle.
People should re-visit the routines of Steve Reeves and Reg park. Big muscular guys and enough muscle for anyone to be happy with.
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Nonsense. John Grimek would bench over 400 for reps, military press in thr high 200's and squat in th low five hundreds for twenty reps all in the same workout three days per week. Same with Reg Park. You guys today pussyfoot around the weights like you're gonna die if you put in a real workout. That's why you'll never look like a man.
Lol, I like this dude.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Lol, I like this dude.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Yeh, refreshingly correct
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BS
Training everything three times a week would lead to epic overtraining in natural... zeesus ::)
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BS
Training everything three times a week would lead to epic overtraining in natural... zeesus ::)
what about farmers working 14 hours a day with their physique, how come they are not "overtraining" but us pussies think we might overtrain from doing 1-2 additional set of leg extension ;D
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what about farmers working 14 hours a day with their physique, how come they are not "overtraining" but us pussies think we might overtrain from doing 1-2 additional set of leg extension ;D
Farmers barely are natural ;D
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You have to listen to your body - sometimes 3 times, sometimes twice a week ... You'd be surprised how quickly you can recover when you do the whole body basically and then do nothing for 1 and a half to 2 days.
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I will try to train everything twice a week next 'off-season' just because I've never done that.
Now I can't experiment with it because I'm dieting and hell no couldn't recover fast enough... or would I ?
Training as natural sucks anyway so what the heck.. ;D
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You have to listen to your body - sometimes 3 times, sometimes twice a week ... You'd be surprised how quickly you can recover when you do the whole body basically and then do nothing for 1 and a half to 2 days.
I think if you do whole Body workouts with Basic moves then i would train 2x per week. Another thing is why have always a 7 day week? train, take 2 days off in between and even 3 if you need it .
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I agree with this fella, actually! the split training is designed for drug enhaned bodybuilders.
I've been saying it for awhile this time around that I should turn my workout upside down. And now that I think of it, full body workout that lasts maximum of 45 minutes is the proper way to train.
The body functions as a single unit, so you should exhaust the whole unit for 45 minutes and not 45 minutes for every single bodypart seperately. Even soccer matches have been designed for two sepperate 45 minute games, and not to one 90min none stop game because the human body can only take 45 minutes of physical presure at one sitting.
Now if I only did it that way ;D... gotta think of some clever way to do it...
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I would like to hear some success stories about that whole body at once three times a week nonsense...
Do anyone practice it actually? Never seen that at gym, except the old farts maybe and some sluts but they do not possess exactly the look I'm after .. :-\
And please, don't come here to tell me about some 'old-school' lumber jack who was full of cadaver-ghona and dbol anyway ::)
It's always said muscle grows in rest. Not when you're training it.
And why you shouldn't train muscle so hard once a week that it's enough? Beginners are often suggested to do those whole body workouts few times a week because they can't put enough effort in exercises...
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I would like to hear some success stories about that whole body at once three times a week nonsense...
Do anyone practice it actually? Never seen that at gym, except the old farts maybe and some sluts but they do not possess exactly the look I'm after .. :-\
And please, don't come here to tell me about some 'old-school' lumber jack who was full of cadaver-ghona and dbol anyway ::)
It's always said muscle grows in rest. Not when you're training it.
And why you shouldn't train muscle so hard once a week that it's enough? Beginners are often suggested to do those whole body workouts few times a week because they can't put enough effort in exercises...
olympic powrlifters train their whole body in one sitting, for example. And they have the thickest muscles except for their chest and even they have twice better chest than I do even though they don't train it every monday sepperately :D, that prety much settles it.
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olympic powrlifters train their whole body in one sitting, for example. And they have the thickest muscles except for their chest and even they have twice better chest than I do even though they don't train it every monday sepperately :D, that prety much settles it.
Olympic lifters are hardly natural...
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This settles it too - 2 of the best who trained like this
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Olympic lifters are hardly natural...
there are natural olympic lifters ::), just like I'm "a natural bodybuilder". But they seem to have 3 times more power than i do, even though they train their whole body at once.
so yeah.
And your "they are not natural" is not legit comparison, because pro bodybuilders aren't natural either and they are piss weak and they have their ridiculous eating habbits and "schedules" ::)...
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Bodybuilding Gold -Reg Parks Routine:-
Reg trained three days a week on this routine. He ate 3-4 meals per day and had a protein drink that was made up of milk, cream and honey, which he drank six times a day. Proof that you don't need to buy expensive supplements.
Grab any photo of Reg Park and you'll see what can be done with hard work and determination. Remember, Park was a pre-steroid bodybuilder, all natural. And to me he looks a lot better and more powerful than the drug induced bodybuilders of today.
The Reg Park Classic 1951 Workout
Squats 5 x 10
Bench Press 5 x 10
Weighted Dips 5 x 12
Barbell Curls 5 x 10
French Presses 5 x 10
Chins 5 x 10
Donkey Raises 5 sets
Abs 5 sets
Notes: There was no rep scheme for his abs and calves, he'd work them until they had enough. Park, like all the old timers, lifted heavy weights and didn't use many isolation exercises in his routine. If you decide to follow this program and feel wiped out on three days a week, knock it down to two. Park had exceptional genetics and recovery ability that most don't have.
Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/223403
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Park had exceptional genetics and recovery ability that most don't have.
Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/223403
OOOh brother ::)
What can I do, I'm not an x-man!
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Olympic lifters are hardly natural...
I know quite a few national weightlifter who are natural (ok weighlifter suck ass in canada anyway), and they train about 8-10 times a week and have no problems with recuparation
90% of them have huge quads also
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I know quite a few national weightlifter who are natural (ok weighlifter suck ass in canada anyway), and they train about 8-10 times a week and have no problems with recuparation
90% of them have huge quads also
and why?
because they don't DO split workouts like bbers 8)
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and why?
because they don't DO split workouts like bbers 8)
well it's hard to say, they train movements not muscles
but they don't squat every workout for example, yet they might do clean and jerk or snatchs, that will involve legs anyway !
I'd sat legs are involved in 80% of their trainings
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well it's hard to say, they train movements not muscles
but they don't squat every workout for example, yet they might do clean and jerk or snatchs, that will involve legs anyway !
I'd sat legs are involved in 80% of their trainings
Ofcourse they train their back and legs, ehm
they do snatches and squats in the same day, aswell as deadlifts am i right... BUT, they rarely do slow movements because slow movements like maximum deadlift won't do shit for your power levels.
I think it's biased to say they work movements and not muscles :-\ ??? ???
when You have speed and strength you have power.... bodybuilders don't have neither....
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OOOh brother ::)
What can I do, I'm not an x-man!
;D
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they do snatches and squats in the same day, aswell as deadlifts am i right... BUT, they rarely do slow movements because slow movements like maximum deadlift won't do shit for your power levels.
I think it's biased to say they work movements and not muscles :-\ ??? ???
when You have speed and strength you have power.... bodybuilders don't have neither....
they mix everything
I trained with them a bit in high school
when I say they work movements not muscles, I mean that they don't say: "today I train legs"
they will say: today we do deads and high pull for example
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they mix everything
I trained with them a bit in high school
when I say they work movements not muscles, I mean that they don't say: "today I train legs"
they will say: today we do deads and high pull for example
yeah, i understand... I did say they don't do splits like bodybuilders but ofcourse they do differend variations of things.
I don't know much, I'm just a fan (no homo)
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Why do i have the feeling we have some IRON AGE cock suckers posting here?
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You must train the wholw body three days per week. Squats, bench press, chin-ups, barbell presses, deadlifts, etc. Marvin could bench over 500 lbs steroid free. Drugs are for sick people. If you are not sick and take drugs you're a creep and a sissy.
Most people do that the first 6-12 months they start training. After that, they split up their bodyparts.
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Nonsense. John Grimek would bench over 400 for reps, military press in thr high 200's and squat in th low five hundreds for twenty reps all in the same workout three days per week. Same with Reg Park. You guys today pussyfoot around the weights like you're gonna die if you put in a real workout. That's why you'll never look like a man.
We could also say you are pussying yourself out of training on split routines and multiple times a week in a fear of "overtraining"..gimmick ::) :D
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The body must be trained as a whole three days a week. This was arrived at through trial and error during the years before the steroid creeps and homosexuals like the Weiders took over. Google some photos of Marvin Eder and you will see what a man looks like.
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The body must be trained as a whole three days a week. This was arrived at through trial and error during the years before the steroid creeps and homosexuals like the Weider's took over. Go ogle some photos of Marvin Ed er and you will see what a man looks like.
The body MUST be trained tailerd to the individual.
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I do 4 days.
Chest/tris, back/bis, shoulders/traps and legs/lower back.
Works fine for me
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I can understand compounds for back and chest work arms and shoulders as well.
But how can upper leg training work the calves?
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Squats hit the calves. You might want to try a few sets of toe raises after you've done the basic workout for eight months.
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Nonsense. John Grimek would bench over 400 for reps, military press in thr high 200's and squat in th low five hundreds for twenty reps all in the same workout three days per week. Same with Reg Park. You guys today pussyfoot around the weights like you're gonna die if you put in a real workout. That's why you'll never look like a man.
Hate to call bullshit here.....but I am shocked others didnt pick up on this. Using most of the standard calculators for 1rm, 5rm, etc....he should be able to have over a 1,000lb squat....and be able to squat 800lbs 10 times.
Sure....ok....
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Hate to call bullshit here.....but I am shocked others didnt pick up on this. Using most of the standard calculators for 1rm, 5rm, etc....he should be able to have over a 1,000lb squat....and be able to squat 800lbs 10 times.
Sure....ok....
Hahah, that's what peanut butter, overtraining whole body 3x a week and no drugs do 8)
:D
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Hate to call bullshit here.....but I am shocked others didnt pick up on this. Using most of the standard calculators for 1rm, 5rm, etc....he should be able to have over a 1,000lb squat....and be able to squat 800lbs 10 times.
Sure....ok....
Yeah, it's bullshit just like his claims of doing partial overhad presses with a 1,000 lbs. He also wasn't natural nor were the others training at york barbell.
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Yeah, it's bullshit just like his claims of doing partial overhad presses with a 1,000 lbs. He also wasn't natural nor were the others training at york barbell.
When were they natural, 1880s?
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1 full body workout per week is about all you need as a natural. It allows time for your body to heal and your mind to refocus before your next workout.
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Yeah and only one set to failure right?
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No, but no reason to hit one bodypart more than once a week when done with intensity.
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1 full body workout per week is about all you need as a natural. It allows time for your body to heal and your mind to refocus before your next workout.
Great post refocusing the mind is key to successes 8)
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You pantywaists don't know what a man is. You worship drug addled creeps like Coleman. Armand Tanny used to bench press over 500 for reps every Mon, Wed, and Fri and he screwed more broads than Wilt Chamberlain.
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Ok gimmick, now shut it...you aren't even funny.
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You pantywaists don't know what a man is. You worship drug addled creeps like Coleman. Armand Tanny used to bench press over 500 for reps every Mon, Wed, and Fri and he screwed more broads than Wilt Chamberlain.
::) Hush now, just log off and come back as your real handle....you blew your load too soon.
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Yeah, it's bullshit just like his claims of doing partial overhad presses with a 1,000 lbs. He also wasn't natural nor were the others training at york barbell.
He had shit genetics anyway.
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Another guy with stick arms telling us how to lift weights. What a joke!
Really you bumped your old as thread to say that? Good job sperm breath!!!
If you ain't pinnin, you ain't winnin :)
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Really you bumped your old as thread to say that? Good job sperm breath!!!
If you ain't pinnin, you ain't winnin :)
Tell that to Chet Yorton. Never touched the junk in his life and blew Arnold off the stage.
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Tell that to Chet Yorton. Never touched the junk in his life and blew Arnold off the stage.
Yorton was a juicer.
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Yorton was a juicer.
well tell us ...
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No one I can think of in this day and age of bodybuilding trains twice per day with weights, if anything most have bought in the fallacy that training one body part per day, once a week actually works.....well, with drug users anything works, but with non-drug users it's a waste of time. if they do train twice per day, it's usually a slow "cardio" session either in the morning or evening.
What routine do you recommend for naturals Coach?
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Nonsense. John Grimek would bench over 400 for reps, military press in thr high 200's and squat in th low five hundreds for twenty reps all in the same workout three days per week. Same with Reg Park. You guys today pussyfoot around the weights like you're gonna die if you put in a real workout. That's why you'll never look like a man.
gotta love this guy. Real meat n potatoes. But why do u reference bill pearl n reg park when they were both steroid guys? Kinda contradicts what u preach. Love your attitude tho.
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Nonsense. John Grimek would bench over 400 for reps, military press in thr high 200's and squat in th low five hundreds for twenty reps all in the same workout three days per week. Same with Reg Park. You guys today pussyfoot around the weights like you're gonna die if you put in a real workout. That's why you'll never look like a man.
I agree with 'ya about not takin drugs but no way was Eder natural and Grimek admitted steroid usage. These old timers were probably on testosterone and just as big of liars as today's guys.
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We can not let dj181 know about this secret.
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I switch between split and full body routines every few months. Both work for a natural. The old timers did the same thing anyways, so what's the argument here?