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Title: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on May 28, 2011, 03:13:21 PM
Jim has found the bullet to kill Hulkamania “buried real deep inside the huge piece of real estate” he owns inside Hulk Hogan’s psyche!!!






FFS x 1000

Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: chaos on May 28, 2011, 03:36:32 PM
Hogan > Warrior.

I don't think there is anything Warrior could say or do that would change the way people/fans view Hogan.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on May 28, 2011, 03:42:28 PM
Hogan > Warrior.

I don't think there is anything Warrior could say or do that would change the way people/fans view Hogan.


This is just Hellwig trying to stay relevant.

BTW: I refuse to call a grown man "Warrior," whether that's what's on his DL or not.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: mass 04 on May 28, 2011, 03:50:17 PM
Not the same without the snorting.

p.s. monster Pottery Barn buy one get one free paintings.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: The Showstoppa on May 28, 2011, 03:56:04 PM
Maybe they are rebooting "My Name is Earl" as "My Name is Warrior?"
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on May 30, 2011, 04:24:06 AM
Warrior is the pot calling the kettle black. Hogan made wrestling and Warrior although he left his thumbprint in the business will always be remembered as a dickhead not liked by anyone. Hogan hand fed this guy and he still couldn't run with the ball.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: littleguns on May 30, 2011, 05:36:53 AM
Sad, if Warrior had "played the game" chances are he would have been bigger if not as big as Hogan...
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on May 30, 2011, 05:46:12 AM
Sad, if Warrior had "played the game" chances are he would have been bigger if not as big as Hogan...
Warrior may be a real prick in life but kudos to him for sticking it to Vince.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: mass 04 on May 30, 2011, 09:53:08 AM
Say what you want about him, but all he wanted to do was make money and get out alive, and he did both.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on May 30, 2011, 11:10:25 AM
Say what you want about him, but all he wanted to do was make money and get out alive, and he did both.
I agree. He was one of the very select few who stuck it to Vince and made a monkey outta him.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: The Showstoppa on May 30, 2011, 11:43:33 AM
I love the fact that VKM was 100% responsible for building up UW as "unbeatable" etc... and how it came back to bite him in the ass.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on May 30, 2011, 11:46:34 AM
What sad is Warrior in real life is a very intelligent and articulate person. Too bad he's a dickhead. He just has a head full of bad wire. Has nothing good really to say about anyone. That's why I was stunned he talked highly of Randy Savage.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on May 30, 2011, 05:00:04 PM
What sad is Warrior in real life is a very intelligent and articulate person. Too bad he's a dickhead. He just has a head full of bad wire. Has nothing good really to say about anyone. That's why I was stunned he talked highly of Randy Savage.


Yeah, and didn't someone recently post a YT clip of him complimenting Rude...after Rude clocked him?
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: indie-lad on May 30, 2011, 05:39:50 PM
Regardless, love Hogan, Warrior, Flair, and the Road Warriors. These guys are my heroes!!
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on May 31, 2011, 04:45:06 AM

Yeah, and didn't someone recently post a YT clip of him complimenting Rude...after Rude clocked him?
I'm still skeptical on that one, Montague. I never read or heard that story and I heard in another shoot interview that Warrior did where he praised Rude and felt bad for him and his family when Rude passed away. Usually when a backstage fight breaks out, it is all over the web and from legit sources. I never seen anything on Rude popping Warrior for real. We'll have to see if we can find a link or something.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on May 31, 2011, 11:49:00 AM
Still to this day that Warrior win at 6 bothers Timmy. He didn't deserve it. This Hellwig guy is nothing. If he was satisfied with all of his accomplishments and his life he would have just disappeared. Why does he carry on? At the time yes he was a superstar. Yes he stuck it to VKM. Dude go away already. Your part of my generation and your weak. Absolutely nothing compared to Hulkster, Taker, Bret, 3:16, the Rock, And Cena. Who's listening to this ape? He sold out on the Federation fans. This guy is an absolute zero. Rude put you over. Hogan put you way over. Savage was the only reason why you lasted as long as you did. A$$ wipe.

Yes, he won his lawsuit and the right to the Ultimate Warrior character. But, as Vince said in the "Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior" video, Warrior hasn't done JACK, since leaving WWE.

Beating Hogan cleanly for the belt wasn't enough to make Warrior the main guy. Notice that in the 90s, WWE only had that "double main event" routine when Hogan and Warrior were both on the card, and Hogan was NOT in the World title match.

If Hogan was champion or the challenger in a WWE title match, THAT was the main event. Warrior was regulated back to second fiddle, the instant he lost the belt in 1991 to Sgt. Slaughter.

His WCW run was PITIFUL. Even with that horrible Hogan-Warrior rematch at Halloween Havoc 1998, Eric Bischoff wanted to restructure his contract and keep him. But, he wanted too much money; Bischoff didn't think he was worth it; and he simply let him go, once his initial contract expired.

Because he left so quickly and without much fanfare, the perception is that Warrior was brought to WCW, just to allow Hogan to avenge his WrestleMania 6 loss.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Option D on May 31, 2011, 11:50:57 AM
Jim is a Douche SOB and is despised by everyone in wrestling. Ever
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on May 31, 2011, 11:58:10 AM
Jim is a Douche SOB and is despised by everyone in wrestling. Ever

You can't hold people up for money; you can't NOT keep your commitments; you can't walk to the ring when you're boo-boo faced; you can't turn your back on the guys in the locker room that helped get you where you are. It just doesn't work! - Jim Ross "Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior".

I remember when Warrior was supposed to appear on Hannity and Colmes, to talk about steroids and the death of Chris Benoit. At the end of the show, Hannity announced that, due to technical difficulties, Warrior wouldn't be appearing that night.

I immediately thought to myself...DEJA VU' all over again. That's why Vince canned him back then, not showing up when advertised.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on May 31, 2011, 12:02:05 PM
Yes, he won his lawsuit and the right to the Ultimate Warrior character. But, as Vince said in the "Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior" video, Warrior hasn't done JACK, since leaving WWE.

Beating Hogan cleanly for the belt wasn't enough to make Warrior the main guy. Notice that in the 90s, WWE only had that "double main event" routine when Hogan and Warrior were both on the card, and Hogan was NOT in the World title match.

If Hogan was champion or the challenger in a WWE title match, THAT was the main event. Warrior was regulated back to second fiddle, the instant he lost the belt in 1991 to Sgt. Slaughter.

His WCW run was PITIFUL. Even with that horrible Hogan-Warrior rematch at Halloween Havoc 1998, Eric Bischoff wanted to restructure his contract and keep him. But, he wanted too much money; Bischoff didn't think he was worth it; and he simply let him go, once his initial contract expired.

Because he left so quickly and without much fanfare, the perception is that Warrior was brought to WCW, just to allow Hogan to avenge his WrestleMania 6 loss.
He doesn't need too, he' s filthy rich. He's just a prick, that's all. 
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on May 31, 2011, 12:11:53 PM
He doesn't need too, he' s filthy rich. He's just a prick, that's all. 

Rich? Perhaps! Filthy rich? That's a bit of a stretch.

His wrestling school (Warrior University) went belly up. His WCW run was a bust. And he got $6 million in that suit, to get the rights to his name.

But, as we've seen with other celebrities, $6 million can disappear rather quickly.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on May 31, 2011, 12:13:01 PM
Rich? Perhaps! Filthy rich? That's a bit of a stretch.

His wrestling school (Warrior University) went belly up. His WCW run was a bust. And he got $6 million in that suit, to get the rights to his name.

But, as we've seen with other celebrities, $6 million can disappear rather quickly.
Yes...filthy rich...The guy as a palace of a home in Arizona. Not everyone is stupid with their money. He has other ventures too.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on May 31, 2011, 12:31:44 PM
Jim's been working on issue #5 of his "Warrior Comic" since like '96.

Can you imagine when this thing finally comes out?

I CAN'T F'N WAIT!!!


 :D
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: OLE BIG on May 31, 2011, 12:43:08 PM
How can you expose Hogan?  Anyone that cares already knows that he is a self-serving prick.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on May 31, 2011, 12:50:30 PM
Yes...filthy rich...The guy as a palace of a home in Arizona. Not everyone is stupid with their money. He has other ventures too.

You don't necessarily have to be stupid with your money to get soaked for it (see Bernie Madoff).

BTW, Hogan HAD a palace of a home, too...until Linda took him to the cleaners.

Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on May 31, 2011, 01:11:47 PM
You don't necessarily have to be stupid with your money to get soaked for it (see Bernie Madoff).

BTW, Hogan HAD a palace of a home, too...until Linda took him to the cleaners.


Hogan still does. Its called a 5000 square foot beach house which is more than enough space for 1 individual to live. Linda got half their net worth as in any divorce. Half of 30 mil is 15 mil. which is what Hogan has not to mention he still gets a hefty pay day from TNA and he still has his sponsers.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on May 31, 2011, 01:52:33 PM
Hogan still does. Its called a 5000 square foot beach house which is more than enough space for 1 individual to live. Linda got half their net worth as in any divorce. Half of 30 mil is 15 mil. which is what Hogan has not to mention he still gets a hefty pay day from TNA and he still has his sponsers.


I'll bet "BITCH" runs out before he does.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on May 31, 2011, 02:13:21 PM
I don't know what went on between Hulkster and Warrior? But Warrior seems like a jealous old man thats got a big chip on his shoulder. Whats this guys beef?


We all just have to wait for the next installment of "Jim's Attempt to Stay Relevant," to learn the revelation of the "bullet that will kill Hulkamania forever."

...brother. ::)


Sorry; I mean... BROTHER!!!

(http://news.brothersoft.com/upload/news/Hulk%20Hogan%E2%80%99s%20Mainevent%20Ringing%20Bell%20for%20Kinect.jpg)
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: OLE BIG on May 31, 2011, 03:09:57 PM
Do you think maybe there was more to it than prayers and vitamins?


Or maybe he hit on Warrior?
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on May 31, 2011, 03:19:49 PM
Or maybe he hit on Warrior?


(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/Class_B/Hulk_hogan_1.jpg)


...BROTHER!!
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: OLE BIG on May 31, 2011, 03:32:38 PM

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/Class_B/Hulk_hogan_1.jpg)


...BROTHER!!


 :o ;D
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 01, 2011, 04:39:59 AM
Even if Hulkster lost everything in that divorce. His star power will allow him to earn for the rest of his life. I don't know what went on between Hulkster and Warrior? But Warrior seems like a jealous old man thats got a big chip on his shoulder. Whats this guys beef?
But thats just it. He didn't.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 01, 2011, 06:54:13 AM
Hulk Hogan posted the following comments on Twitter:


On the recent comments by the Warrior claiming Karma is coming to collect from Hulk Hogan -
"that what he's programed for,some people love, help,laugh,create,have fun,he hates.warrior who? HH"
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 01, 2011, 08:24:56 AM
That's ok, Hogan used his wrestling pull to extract revenge on Warrior in WCW and made him look silly....in probably the worst wrestling match I have ever seen in my life at Holloween Havoc.....
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 01, 2011, 08:37:23 AM
That's ok, Hogan used his wrestling pull to extract revenge on Warrior in WCW and made him look silly....in probably the worst wrestling match I have ever seen in my life at Holloween Havoc.....


One of my favorite parts of that match was when Hogan practically burned himself with the wad of flash cotton that he was supposed to throw in Jim's face.

That was one of those rare matches in which "everything didn't work."
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 01, 2011, 10:04:28 AM

One of my favorite parts of that match was when Hogan practically burned himself with the wad of flash cotton that he was supposed to throw in Jim's face.

That was one of those rare matches in which "everything didn't work."
Lol...blame it on the stupid props.....the worst was they sent out Horase Hogan of all people to belt Warrior with the chair....why not Hall or Nash? I would have loved to have seen Nash power bomb Warrior through a table.  ;D
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: leaky_frog on June 01, 2011, 10:18:09 AM
I would have loved to have seen Nash power bomb Warrior through a table.  ;D

Would never happen- ever seen the warrior take a bump bigger than a clothesline? 
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 01, 2011, 11:46:29 AM
Would never happen- ever seen the warrior take a bump bigger than a clothesline? 

He took quite a nasty piledriver from Ravishing Rick Rude at WrestleMania 5.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 01, 2011, 11:51:11 AM
That's ok, Hogan used his wrestling pull to extract revenge on Warrior in WCW and made him look silly....in probably the worst wrestling match I have ever seen in my life at Holloween Havoc.....

Hogan made himself look even sillier, as he readily admitted in the "Self-Destruction...." video.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: indie-lad on June 01, 2011, 06:20:18 PM
Hulk Hogan posted the following comments on Twitter:


On the recent comments by the Warrior claiming Karma is coming to collect from Hulk Hogan -
"that what he's programed for,some people love, help,laugh,create,have fun,he hates.warrior who? HH"

A lot of truth to this. As much as I love Warrior and his truths, he is just so angry and burned out by the industry. I kind of feel sorry form him.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 01, 2011, 06:47:49 PM
A lot of truth to this. As much as I love Warrior and his truths, he is just so angry and burned out by the industry. I kind of feel sorry form him.


He'll try to stay somewhat relevant in the wrestling world until his book is finished... IF it's ever finished.
I wouldn't be surprised if this latest Hogan attack is a "stunt" to drum up publicity for it.

I can see if one or several people had a grudge that would lead them to make such negative comments, but EVERYBODY says the EXACT same thing about him.
Everyone agrees that he's a dick!
This is one wrestling book I can honestly say I have no interest in reading - and that's without knowing anything about it.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 02, 2011, 04:50:15 AM

He'll try to stay somewhat relevant in the wrestling world until his book is finished... IF it's ever finished.
I wouldn't be surprised if this latest Hogan attack is a "stunt" to drum up publicity for it.

I can see if one or several people had a grudge that would lead them to make such negative comments, but EVERYBODY says the EXACT same thing about him.
Everyone agrees that he's a dick!
This is one wrestling book I can honestly say I have no interest in reading - and that's without knowing anything about it.
For all we know this could be an industry ploy by those two just to make money. Wrestling is one big work both inside the ring and outside as well. Alot of people just don't get that and they buy into all the shit they see and assume that its real when in fact its not and the two parties involved are having multiple beers at a bar saying, "We got them". Its all about cash. I highly doubt Warrior or Hogan gave two shits about one another that they have to have a battle of words.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 02, 2011, 05:37:09 AM
For all we know this could be an industry ploy by those two just to make money. Wrestling is one big work both inside the ring and outside as well. Alot of people just don't get that and they buy into all the shit they see and assume that its real when in fact its not and the two parties involved are having multiple beers at a bar saying, "We got them". Its all about cash. I highly doubt Warrior or Hogan gave two shits about one another that they have to have a battle of words.


Sure, that's very possible.
But, given both men's egos, I could just as easily believe they really are at odds.
Look at Hogan & Jesse! ;)

The bottom line is: you've got to be pretty damn insecure & petty to bicker over make-believe fighting...

































BROTHER!!

(http://wrestlehut.org/images/2/2a/Mr_Nanny.jpg)
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 02, 2011, 08:00:23 AM

Sure, that's very possible.
But, given both men's egos, I could just as easily believe they really are at odds.
Look at Hogan & Jesse! ;)

The bottom line is: you've got to be pretty damn insecure & petty to bicker over make-believe fighting...

































BROTHER!!

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100406144539/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/7/72/MrNanny.jpg/180px-MrNanny.jpg)
Given Warrior is involved and he is at odds with everyone and their mother, it wouldn't surprise me at all.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 02, 2011, 12:01:02 PM
Macho elbows was the worst I've ever seen him take. Earthquake squashed him as well.

To this day, I've NEVER seen a match where a guy take his opponent's finisher FIVE TIMES and still kicks out (WrestleMania 7: Ultimate Warrior vs. "Macho King" Randy Savage, Career-Ending Match).
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Hulkster on June 02, 2011, 02:26:02 PM
all of that is nothing compared to this:



 :o
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 02, 2011, 04:24:52 PM
all of that is nothing compared to this:



 :o


That wasn't bad at all.
In fact, the way Rude set him down, Jim's scapula basically "slid" down Rick's thighs allowing his head to graze the mat; rather than being driven straight into it.

Nothing like this asshole:


Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: leaky_frog on June 02, 2011, 04:54:19 PM
Yeah, that wasn't a piledriver, or a powerbomb.  Look, I like Warrior, if only for nostalgia's sake, but he sold nothing, and didn't take bumps often, if at all.  I enjoy Warrior's site and rants, but that guy is the biggest mark for himself I've ever seen.  Worse than HTM.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 02, 2011, 05:23:58 PM
Yeah, that wasn't a piledriver, or a powerbomb.  Look, I like Warrior, if only for nostalgia's sake, but he sold nothing, and didn't take bumps often, if at all.  I enjoy Warrior's site and rants, but that guy is the biggest mark for himself I've ever seen.  Worse than HTM.


He's the only person I've ever seen with a tattoo OF HIMSELF on his arm.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: indie-lad on June 03, 2011, 02:23:48 AM

He's the only person I've ever seen with a tattoo OF HIMSELF on his arm.

And another one of himself on his upper shoulder. That's two, maybe more...
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: littleguns on June 03, 2011, 03:43:21 AM
What is this really all about? Setting up a Warrior vs Hogan III? Considering #II was a disaster.

I'll tell you what tho - looking at the latest video, Warrior still looks in great shape....

The guy's last match was 13 yrs ago ( I dont count the Africa thingor wherever it was 3 yrs ago)...just fade away already
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 03, 2011, 04:18:27 AM
And another one of himself on his upper shoulder. That's two, maybe more...


LMAO!!
I'm glad someone else has seen them.
They really do need to be seen to fully appreciate the audacity.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 03, 2011, 05:03:38 AM
all of that is nothing compared to this:



 :o

Rude's piledriver at WrestleMania had more sting than that (5:18)



For the full, unedited...well, unedited except for the use of "WWF"....match, click here (notice the missile dropkick by the Ravishing One at 6:42, that Coliseum Video cut out).

http://www.myspace.com/video/persona-non-grata/rick-rude-v-the-ultimate-warrior-at-wrestlemania-v/7207357 (http://www.myspace.com/video/persona-non-grata/rick-rude-v-the-ultimate-warrior-at-wrestlemania-v/7207357)
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 03, 2011, 05:38:39 AM
What is this really all about? Setting up a Warrior vs Hogan III? Considering #II was a disaster.

I'll tell you what tho - looking at the latest video, Warrior still looks in great shape....

The guy's last match was 13 yrs ago ( I dont count the Africa thingor wherever it was 3 yrs ago)...just fade away already
Absolutely not...its just two much older washed up egos colliding on the net.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 03, 2011, 09:58:03 AM
Absolutely not...its just two much older washed up egos colliding on the net.

Exactly.  To hell with both of these turds.  They both played a part in ruining wrestling.  Put them with VKM on an inner-tube in the south pacific and good riddance.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 03, 2011, 11:09:48 AM
Exactly.  To hell with both of these turds.  They both played a part in ruining wrestling.  Put them with VKM on an inner-tube in the south pacific and good riddance.

Ruining wrestling? Hogan? Vince McMahon rode Hogan all the way to the bank, packing football stadiums to boot.

Hogan-Andre and Hogan-Warrior at WrestleManias 3 and 6, respectively, helped put wrestling on the map.

Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 03, 2011, 11:32:15 AM
Ruining wrestling? Hogan? Vince McMahon rode Hogan all the way to the bank, packing football stadiums to boot.

Hogan-Andre and Hogan-Warrior at WrestleManias 3 and 6, respectively, helped put wrestling on the map.


I wouldn't go that far....

Hogan did a lot for wrestling and no one really gave a damn about Warrior. Warrior had a small 2 year run where he was huge. 1990-1991 till he held up Vince for cash. That's not putting wrestling on the map. Its putting a black eye on the business.

Hogan was #1 for making Wrestling mainstream.
Flair was #2 for being the only talent wrestling all over the world and not just North American USA rings.

The rest are a very long distant #3.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 03, 2011, 12:08:33 PM
I wouldn't go that far....

Hogan did a lot for wrestling and no one really gave a damn about Warrior. Warrior had a small 2 year run where he was huge. 1990-1991 till he held up Vince for cash. That's not putting wrestling on the map. Its putting a black eye on the business.

Hogan was #1 for making Wrestling mainstream.
Flair was #2 for being the only talent wrestling all over the world and not just North American USA rings.

The rest are a very long distant #3.

My comments were mainly about Hogan, not Warrior. I know Warrior fizzled out after 1991, starting with his losing the WWF title to Sgt. Slaughter and really ended after that beating from the Undertaker, at the Funeral Parlor show.

Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 03, 2011, 01:42:34 PM
Ruining wrestling? Hogan? Vince McMahon rode Hogan all the way to the bank, packing football stadiums to boot.

Hogan-Andre and Hogan-Warrior at WrestleManias 3 and 6, respectively, helped put wrestling on the map.



Absolutely.  He killed terriotories and now we are left with the pile of smoldering shit that we have.  I grew up on Mid-Atlantic and Georgia wrestling.  Nothing VKM has ever produced is even remotely close from a purists standpoint, which is what I am.  Had I been 9 or 10 at the height of Hogan's popularity i might feel differently.  And by mentioning Hogan-Andre and Hogan-Warrior you are just helping to make my point.  While both made money and had tons of viewers, they were both pure garbage matches in every way.  Again, my tastes obviously aren't for the masses, but that is my opinion.

The thing is making more money with something, or even having more viewers, doesn't make it "better." 
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: chaos on June 03, 2011, 05:34:49 PM
Absolutely.  He killed terriotories and now we are left with the pile of smoldering shit that we have.  I grew up on Mid-Atlantic and Georgia wrestling.  Nothing VKM has ever produced is even remotely close from a purists standpoint, which is what I am.  Had I been 9 or 10 at the height of Hogan's popularity i might feel differently.  And by mentioning Hogan-Andre and Hogan-Warrior you are just helping to make my point.  While both made money and had tons of viewers, they were both pure garbage matches in every way.  Again, my tastes obviously aren't for the masses, but that is my opinion.

The thing is making more money with something, or even having more viewers, doesn't make it "better." 
How often do you seek out and support the local indie feds by going to their shows in high school auditoriums?
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 03, 2011, 07:41:41 PM
I don’t think anyone is claiming that Vince “killed” wrestling.
He certainly changed the industry landscape, and in the process, killed a particular genre of the business by slaying the regional territories.

Something I’ve noticed in recent years - and I believe we’ve touched upon it here before - with territories gone, there aren’t many places left for workers to hone or expand their craft.
You can’t compare indy promotions to the territories of old; most of them run 2-3 shows per month.

Also, many of today’s mainstream workers are learning from the same trainers.
That equates to little difference in style between them, creating a cookie-cutter effect.
Individuality, for the most part, has been lost.
Creativity is discouraged because most talent is “told” what to say.

Vince McMahon Jr. created all of this: directly, indirectly, inadvertently, and on purpose.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 04, 2011, 12:43:45 AM
I wouldn't go that far....

Hogan did a lot for wrestling and no one really gave a damn about Warrior. Warrior had a small 2 year run where he was huge. 1990-1991 till he held up Vince for cash. That's not putting wrestling on the map. Its putting a black eye on the business.

Hogan was #1 for making Wrestling mainstream.
Flair was #2 for being the only talent wrestling all over the world and not just North American USA rings.

The rest are a very long distant #3.

Dude, considering Vince uses and tosses these guys like napkins, are you really surprised !?! you know how many people VKM has led to their death? look at the amount of dead guys in the 90's and 2000's, he may not be directly respoinsble for each of their deaths but he sure had a part to play in leading them there.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 04, 2011, 04:14:51 PM
How often do you seek out and support the local indie feds by going to their shows in high school auditoriums?

I do go to an occasional indy show.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Hulkster on June 05, 2011, 09:04:34 AM
Quote
I know Warrior fizzled out after 1991

I have always maintained that this was due to booking rather than Helwig.

look who they had him face after he beat hogan:

Rude, who he had already destroyed before.

he had already beat Hogan, Andre, Rude, Perfect etc etc.

there was no one left for him to face.

bad booking. should have had him feud with Hogan for a while.

then savage - which WAS good. but by then he was no longer champ.

had they started the Macho Man program while he was still world champ, it might have been a lot better for Warrior.

Warrior wins the world title and they throw him in a bunch of 6 man tag matches with LOD against Demolition.

obviously, he was not going to do well as champ.

as IC champ, they booked him properly and look how over he was. he was arguably more popular than Hogan for pretty much all of 1989 and 90..
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: chaos on June 05, 2011, 09:27:54 AM
I have always maintained that this was due to booking rather than Helwig.

Maybe if he wasn't such a cock they would have booked him better ???
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 05, 2011, 12:17:17 PM
Maybe if he wasn't such a cock they would have booked him better ???


They couldn’t have pushed him any harder - having him beat Honky for the I-C title in under a minute, having Hogan drop the big belt to him at Mania, etc.

Hellwig didn’t know how to work; he only knew how to squash his opponents.
Had he learned things like pacing, psychology, and telling a story within the match, he could have stretched out those feuds.
But, he felt that he was too good for the business and didn’t “need” to learn those things, which is ironic because it could have helped him so much.

Jim never understood that if you run effortlessly through an opponent, give them nothing, & completely annihilate them, who have you beaten?
If, instead, you make the other guy look good, your “victory” means a lot more.
But, Hellwig never got that.
He only knew how to get himself over, he only knew one way to do it, and that was ALL he was ever concerned with.

In that regard, the Ultimate Warrior character was entirely one-dimensional.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 05, 2011, 12:26:58 PM

They couldn’t have pushed him any harder - having him beat Honky for the I-C title in under a minute, having Hogan drop the big belt to him at Mania, etc.

Hellwig didn’t know how to work; he only knew how to squash his opponents.
Had he learned things like pacing, psychology, and telling a story within the match, he could have stretched out those feuds.
But, he felt that he was too good for the business and didn’t “need” to learn those things, which is ironic because it could have helped him so much.

Jim never understood that if you run effortlessly through an opponent, give them nothing, & completely annihilate them, who have you beaten?
If, instead, you make the other guy look good, your “victory” means a lot more.
But, Hellwig never got that.
He only knew how to get himself over, he only knew one way to do it, and that was ALL he was ever concerned with.

In that regard, the Ultimate Warrior character was entirely one-dimensional.

Seemingly ironic then that his character's name is/was the ULTIMATE WARRIOR , no? ;)

undertaker and goldberg followed down the same path (somewhat)
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 05, 2011, 01:07:01 PM
Seemingly ironic then that his character's name is/was the ULTIMATE WARRIOR , no? ;)

undertaker and goldberg followed down the same path (somewhat)


Goldberg was similar, but I think for a different reason: it wasn't egotism or stubborness, but because he got an enormous push as a VERY green worker. I suspect he may have believed that doing what he did got him that far and was maybe reluctant to change it for fear of failure.
It didn't matter; in his case, it was booking that destroyed his momentum.

As far as Taker goes, he at least knows how to work in a way that gets himself AND his opponent over.
Granted, this wasn’t so much the case when they first brought him in & the old man was giving orders to the locker room such as, "Undertaker is not to leave his feet.”

But, Taker developed & improved over the years.
That’s one of the reasons he’s been able to revisit feuds and work with guys he’s faced before.

With Undertaker, you often expected him to win, but there were times it seemed like he might not.
An UW match was like a Mike Tyson fight - it’s one-sided, you know he’s going to go over, and in under 10 mins.
Boxing may be different, but that shit gets old real quick with pro-wrestling fans.

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Post by: indie-lad on June 05, 2011, 01:15:48 PM

They couldn’t have pushed him any harder - having him beat Honky for the I-C title in under a minute, having Hogan drop the big belt to him at Mania, etc.

Hellwig didn’t know how to work; he only knew how to squash his opponents.
Had he learned things like pacing, psychology, and telling a story within the match, he could have stretched out those feuds.
But, he felt that he was too good for the business and didn’t “need” to learn those things, which is ironic because it could have helped him so much.

Jim never understood that if you run effortlessly through an opponent, give them nothing, & completely annihilate them, who have you beaten?
If, instead, you make the other guy look good, your “victory” means a lot more.
But, Hellwig never got that.
He only knew how to get himself over, he only knew one way to do it, and that was ALL he was ever concerned with.

In that regard, the Ultimate Warrior character was entirely one-dimensional.

Truth right here.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 06, 2011, 06:59:48 AM
Absolutely.  He killed terriotories and now we are left with the pile of smoldering shit that we have.  I grew up on Mid-Atlantic and Georgia wrestling.  Nothing VKM has ever produced is even remotely close from a purists standpoint, which is what I am.  Had I been 9 or 10 at the height of Hogan's popularity i might feel differently.  And by mentioning Hogan-Andre and Hogan-Warrior you are just helping to make my point.  While both made money and had tons of viewers, they were both pure garbage matches in every way.  Again, my tastes obviously aren't for the masses, but that is my opinion.

The thing is making more money with something, or even having more viewers, doesn't make it "better." 

I grew up on Florida Championship Wrestling, a feeder of the old NWA. WWF made that stuff look so bush-league. It was when FCW was canceled, due to some special, that I went channel-surfing and found WWF wrestling, which came on around the same time. From that point, I was sold. And, once the Hulkster came on TV....FORGET IT!!!

As for the aforementioned matches, to me, they were great. Hogan-Warrior flowed better than Hogan-Andre. But, who will ever forget "the SLAM HEARD 'ROUND THE WORLD"??

Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 06, 2011, 07:03:12 AM

They couldn’t have pushed him any harder - having him beat Honky for the I-C title in under a minute, having Hogan drop the big belt to him at Mania, etc.

Hellwig didn’t know how to work; he only knew how to squash his opponents.
Had he learned things like pacing, psychology, and telling a story within the match, he could have stretched out those feuds.
But, he felt that he was too good for the business and didn’t “need” to learn those things, which is ironic because it could have helped him so much.

Jim never understood that if you run effortlessly through an opponent, give them nothing, & completely annihilate them, who have you beaten?
If, instead, you make the other guy look good, your “victory” means a lot more.
But, Hellwig never got that.
He only knew how to get himself over, he only knew one way to do it, and that was ALL he was ever concerned with.

In that regard, the Ultimate Warrior character was entirely one-dimensional.

His two best opponents (now deceased) were "Ravishing" Rick Rude and "Macho King" Randy Savage. The two IC matches with Rude and the "Career-Ending" Match with the Macho King were awesome. Ironically, Savage got over more, after his loss, with Elizabeth saving him, after Queen Sherri was kicking the mess out of him.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 06, 2011, 07:48:42 AM
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 06, 2011, 08:18:17 AM
I have always maintained that this was due to booking rather than Helwig.

look who they had him face after he beat hogan:

Rude, who he had already destroyed before.

he had already beat Hogan, Andre, Rude, Perfect etc etc.

there was no one left for him to face.

bad booking. should have had him feud with Hogan for a while.

then savage - which WAS good. but by then he was no longer champ.

had they started the Macho Man program while he was still world champ, it might have been a lot better for Warrior.

Warrior wins the world title and they throw him in a bunch of 6 man tag matches with LOD against Demolition.

obviously, he was not going to do well as champ.

as IC champ, they booked him properly and look how over he was. he was arguably more popular than Hogan for pretty much all of 1989 and 90..

Warrior had four major opponents as WWF champion:

Ravishing Rick Rude - Made perfect sense, since Rude beat him for the IC title and was booked as the only guy with a win over Warrior.

"Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase - the heel's heel, and the guy who tried to buy the title (and briefly succeeded.

"Macho King" Randy Savage. Face crazy man vs heel crazy man. That was started when Warrior had the belt.

Sgt. Slaughter: The guy who beat Ultimate Warrior for the title, with some help from Macho King (because Warrior wouldn't give him any more title shots).
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Internet Tough Guy on June 06, 2011, 01:13:25 PM
If there is one thing Hogan lacks, it's exposure.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: indie-lad on June 06, 2011, 01:46:14 PM
Warrior is still on the sauce I see. :)
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: leaky_frog on June 06, 2011, 05:18:34 PM


Scary, but not good scary.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 06, 2011, 05:56:38 PM
Scary, but not good scary.



I swore that, as mod, I'd never modify anyone's posts... but I had to do something to fix this one! ;)
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: leaky_frog on June 07, 2011, 11:02:21 AM
You just know there's a gimp chained up just out of camera range in that shot.  ;D
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 07, 2011, 01:31:19 PM
I don't know if he still does the political/motivational speeches & seminars, but years ago, I'd read some rants on his site.
Holy Shit!
I don't know if he really believed that stuff, if he was just trying to be another version of Rush, or a combination of both; but DAMN...was he out there!

Conservative college groups would bring him in to speak at events.
I know at least one asked him to stop during the lecture because he was causing such an uproar.
They then promised the university that they would NEVER invite him back.
I wish I could remember what it was about.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: leaky_frog on June 07, 2011, 04:10:42 PM
  His comments were something to the effect that, "queering doesn't make the world work." Yeah, he was getting pretty regular invites before that to campuses, but it all seemed to stop cold after that little incident. 
  What I never understand is his opinion of himself in the business seems pretty high, yet I have never gotten the impression that he had any love for the business.  In his shoot interview, it sounded like it was all business, no exultation in reaching the pinnacle apart from the paycheck.  What a sad way to spend one's life.  Although I will say I respected his comments about Randy Savage last week- those were pretty classy.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 07, 2011, 07:01:45 PM
Former WWE star The Ultimate Warrior Jim is continuing his internet war on TNA star Hulk Hogan by posting the following on Twitter:

"Hogan takes high road-where?when? Never has. In WM6 best sports entertainer in the world prevailed. Today, best man will. No punches pulled."

"Terry, almost time for KiCtC. Better triple your meds -- or have your PoS friend Knobbs come over and feign heart attacks...good for laughs."

"Hogan blames the fans, then acts like it never happened... good example of Hulkamania's positivity and authenticity. He is totally lost."

Warrior added that the previously hyped "Karma is Coming to Collect" video, which threatens to expose Hogan, will be released in "under 48 hours."
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 08, 2011, 04:22:13 AM
Posted 8 hours ago by "mrultimatewarrior" Jim:




This keeps getting better & better...
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 08, 2011, 04:38:34 AM
Wow.....this guy obviously has nothing better to do with his time.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 08, 2011, 05:41:42 AM
Wow.....this guy obviously has nothing better to do with his time.


Whether this shoot/rant is something he sells, or posts on Youtube, there’s an ulterior motive; he’s got something lined up.
He’s even advertising a “major announcement” on his “return to television.”

I doubt it will be TNA, because Hogan would never go for it.
And, I doubt it will be WWE, because he’s too stubborn & greedy to work with them - although, I suspect Vince would be willing for the ratings.

Hellwig made good money from wrestling while he was in it, which wasn’t for long.
He’s run some other business ventures, but it doesn’t sound as if they exactly soared.
His biggest payoff came from suing a rich guy.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 08, 2011, 06:33:26 AM

Whether this shoot/rant is something he sells, or posts on Youtube, there’s an ulterior motive; he’s got something lined up.
He’s even advertising a “major announcement” on his “return to television.”

I doubt it will be TNA, because Hogan would never go for it.
And, I doubt it will be WWE, because he’s too stubborn & greedy to work with them - although, I suspect Vince would be willing for the ratings.

Hellwig made good money from wrestling while he was in it, which wasn’t for long.
He’s run some other business ventures, but it doesn’t sound as if they exactly soared.
His biggest payoff came from suing a rich guy.

This moron shoud be laying on a beach relaxing and sipping a martini with the money he's accumilated over his years wrestling and suing.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 08, 2011, 07:49:04 AM
Posted 8 hours ago by "mrultimatewarrior" Jim:




This keeps getting better & better...
 :D :D :D

Bollea bought the rights to the "Hulk Hogan" character. Yet, he still calls himself Terry.

So why doesn't this fellow change his name back to Jim Hellwig, since he has the rights to the Ultimate Warrior character?

So, Hogan reconnected with Savage after 10 years, the same amount of time that Warrior spent not talking to his dad, before using his death as an excuse to ditch WWE events, for which he was scheduled to appear.

And quite frankly, he's the last guy who needs to lecture Hogan about not being in touch with reality. The guy changed his name to "Warrior". And he's bagging on Hogan lack of reality.

Hogan's evolved his wrestling character. Warrior's a one-trick pony. Even after beating Hogan clean at WrestleMania 6 for the belt, he STILL didn't have the status that Hogan did.

And as far as marriage and fatherhood goes, Helwig ain't exactly up for any Ward Cleaver trophies, according to his ex-wife (Didn't his ex and Missy Hyatt both claim that Helwig was the ultimate homo?).
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 08, 2011, 08:43:27 AM
Man this is awesome! you guys say what you want about warrior but none of you were there behind the scenes when all this alleged shit happened, despite how much you all love Vince, I think he tried to fuck warrior like every one of his other guys and get the most out of him while paying him the least and it backfired on him.

As far as this Hogan thing is concerned, it's well known and written that Hogan ran the politics and locker room (and still does to this day) refusing to put over other guys and not wanting to give up the strap at any time, I've read his book and have a suspicion that he's a sneaky, manipulative guy that bends and twists things to get his way, while screwing over anybody in his way.

Also the drug rumors about Hogan have been around forever, it's mentioned in a few other wrestling books and on youtube shoots by Honky Tonk Man how Hogan loved coke and marijuana.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 08, 2011, 09:01:24 AM
Man this is awesome! you guys say what you want about warrior but none of you were there behind the scenes when all this alleged shit happened, despite how much you all love Vince, I think he tried to fuck warrior like every one of his other guys and get the most out of him while paying him the least and it backfired on him.

As far as this Hogan thing is concerned, it's well known and written that Hogan ran the politics and locker room (and still does to this day) refusing to put over other guys and not wanting to give up the strap at any time, I've read his book and have a suspicion that he's a sneaky, manipulative #### that bends and twists things to get his way, while screwing over anybody in his way.

Also the drug rumors about Hogan have been around forever, it's mentioned in a few other wrestling books and on youtube shoots by Honky Tonk Man how Hogan loved coke and marijuana.


Hogan has admitted to his past drug use. So, Warrior isn't exactly breaking any big news. Plenty of guys don't want to drop the belt, at times. Austin did the same thing. He didn't want to lose the title to Helmsley, so he dropped it to Mankind, who in turned dropped it to Helmsley the next night.

Hogan allegedly didn't want to job to Bret Hart, before he left WWE; so he instead agreed to lose the title back to Yokozuna.

The point is that, if we're throwing around past demons and misgivings, Warrior/Helwig probably has as much dirt on him as Hogan does.

Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 08, 2011, 09:03:53 AM
Hogan has admitted to his past drug use. So, Warrior isn't exactly breaking any big news. Plenty of guys don't want to drop the belt, at times. Austin did the same thing. He didn't want to lose the title to Helmsley, so he dropped it to Mankind, who in turned dropped it to Helmsley the next night.

Hogan allegedly didn't want to job to Bret Hart, before he left WWE; so he instead agreed to lose the title back to Yokozuna.

The point is that, if we're throwing around past demons and misgivings, Warrior/Helwig probably has as much dirt on him as Hogan does.



My point being, I don't think Warrior stood in the way of as many guys making it as Hogan did, Hogan probably destroyed more careers then he made, esp with the NWO stint and following, where they wouldn't put any younger/rookie guys over.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 08, 2011, 10:48:37 AM
My point being, I don't think Warrior stood in the way of as many guys making it as Hogan did, Hogan probably destroyed more careers then he made, esp with the NWO stint and following, where they wouldn't put any younger/rookie guys over.


Then how do you explain Goldberg, who beat Hogan in a matter of minutes with relative ease, for the WCW title (while still the US champion)?
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 08, 2011, 12:16:51 PM
Easy. Its called a wrestling storyline that was staged. You guys are making it seem as if it is "real" and its not.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: polychronopolous on June 08, 2011, 12:43:32 PM
That was actually an entertaining video...5:00 to 5:45 was pretty brutal.

If I didn't know the whole background with Warrior and how he flaked out towards the end at WWE I would say he actually came across as an pretty decent guy in the 6 videos he has posted on youtube.

I think he got the better of Sean Hannity and made some really excellent points on that show. He very well could have been lying through his teeth about his feelings toward Randy Savage but that seemed genuine as well.

Let's face it, after Hogan's whole jail phone conversation incident, do we really know what he truly is like when the cameras are not rolling? Shortly after those tapes became public Hogan got on this "I've began reading "The Secret" and it has changed my whole outlook on life" trip. Hogan has some really smart media savvy friends, who is to say a guy like Bubba the Love Sponge didn't get in his ear and tell him to get on that particular angle and run with it? Hogan did come out smelling pretty decent after all that shit went down. It could all be fake and bullshit and nobody in this forum would know the better of it. Warrior knows who Hogan is probably 10X better than somebody on a message board.

Maybe Warrior was right? Maybe Hogan really is that guy in the phone conversations.... Or alot closer than what all of his "Hulkamaniacs" would like to believe?
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 08, 2011, 12:55:21 PM
Its all a giant work.  :D

Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 08, 2011, 01:13:39 PM
Its all a giant work.  :D


 ;)
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 08, 2011, 01:15:50 PM
Maybe Warrior was right? Maybe Hogan really is that guy in the phone conversations.... Or alot closer than what all of his "Hulkamaniacs" would like to believe?


There's more than one Hulk Hogan...




























































(http://www.nndb.com/people/543/000022477/hulk-pastamania-sm.jpg)


...BROTHER!!!
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 09, 2011, 02:55:18 AM
I was hoping by the thread title that it was going to be Brooke.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 09, 2011, 04:50:15 AM
According to TMZ, Hulk Hogan is threatening to sue the Ultimate Warrior over the teaser video Warrior posted yesterday.

Hogan says that allegations of drug use are a “blatant lie,” and that the claims about Linda are not true either. “None of that ever happened. This guy is out of his mind.”

Hogan says that he tried to ignore it, but now his lawyer is involved. This sounds like nothing more than a threat to me. Classic Hogan. At the end of the day, Warrior sounds like he has a major chip on his shoulder. Warrior is the pot calling the kettle black with regards to drug use.

Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 09, 2011, 05:19:56 AM
According to TMZ, Hulk Hogan is threatening to sue the Ultimate Warrior over the teaser video Warrior posted yesterday.

Hogan says that allegations of drug use are a “blatant lie,” and that the claims about Linda are not true either. “None of that ever happened. This guy is out of his mind.”

Hogan says that he tried to ignore it, but now his lawyer is involved. This sounds like nothing more than a threat to me. Classic Hogan. At the end of the day, Warrior sounds like he has a major chip on his shoulder. Warrior is the pot calling the kettle black with regards to drug use.




I’m sure Hogan is concerned.
Regardless of the truth/accuracy in Jim’s statements, there’s no telling what the hell he’ll rattle off in his rants, and Hulk is no doubt worried about his public image being slandered.

Personally, I lost a lot of respect for that entire family when the tapes of those phone conversations between Hogan & the boy were leaked.
That kid always looked like a spoiled little prick with the mentality that he can get away with anything because of who his Dad is.

Sometimes, you can judge a book asshole by its cover...




Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 09, 2011, 05:20:40 AM
(http://theblemish.com/images/2008/04/hulk-hogan-brooke.jpg)


BROTHER!!!
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 09, 2011, 07:40:53 AM

I’m sure Hogan is concerned.
Regardless of the truth/accuracy in Jim’s statements, there’s no telling what the hell he’ll rattle off in his rants, and Hulk is no doubt worried about his public image being slandered.

Personally, I lost a lot of respect for that entire family when the tapes of those phone conversations between Hogan & the boy were leaked.
That kid always looked like a spoiled little prick with the mentality that he can get away with anything because of who his Dad is.

Sometimes, you can judge a book asshole by its cover...





Quoted for the truth.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: littleguns on June 10, 2011, 03:34:58 AM
The big question...why is Warrior coming out now? Wonder if the Savage interview set him off
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 10, 2011, 04:52:56 AM
Warrior is and always will be a prick. Bottom line. This guy is so blackballed in wrestling that not one person wants anything to do with him. Not one person has anything godd to say about him. Why is he attacking Hogan? JEALOUSY. Major jealousy. The guy was given the ball to run by the WWE after WM6 and he dropped the ball bigtime. The ratings went down, thus putting the title back on Hogan once he came back from filming Suburban Commando. All these attacks on Hogan are pathetic. Hogan put wrestling on the map and made it HUGE. Just because the guy gets divorced (like the other 20 million people in the states do anually, they make a stink about it. Hogan has admitted his party days of marjuana use and steroid use, etc. Its the pot calling the kettle black. Steroid use, marjuana use and even coke use is used by 90% of the wrestling world. Why single Hogan out? Its a joke.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 10, 2011, 05:01:39 AM
That cannot be Brooke? I mean it's one thing Daddy trying to rub lotion there. But it's another thing that the Daughter is not minding it. Thats seriously strange if thats his daughter in that pic.


No, I suspect that's Jen, his (at the time) fiancé.

Those lotion pics surfaced a while ago and there was a big stink about a supposed “inappropriate relationship” Hulk had with his daughter.
But, take a look at the picture below:

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/Class_B/hulk-and-his-lookalikes.jpg)

Brooke & Jen could almost pass for twins: similar build, facial structure, implants, hair length, style, & color…come to think of it, it looks like all three share the same hair dye.

Same with this clown bitch & her tard:

(http://blog.zap2it.com/thedishrag/legacyimages/thedishrag/images/2008/06/11/linda_hogan.jpg)


Whole family is fcuked up.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 10, 2011, 06:45:48 AM
Hogan's family is fucked up. Not Hogan. He did what any father / husband does and that is go out and work to make money for his family. All those ingrades did nothing, never worked a day in their lives and spent money all day. You can even see truth to it in episiodes of Hogan Knows Best.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 10, 2011, 03:12:39 PM
Hogan's family is fucked up. Not Hogan. He did what any father / husband does and that is go out and work to make money for his family. All those ingrades did nothing, never worked a day in their lives and spent money all day. You can even see truth to it in episiodes of Hogan Knows Best.

x10000000000000000000000 0000

I've been saying this ever since that tv show`

If I had been Hogan I would have taken them on a vacation to Colombia and arranged a coincidental 'accident'

the amount of shit that man went through with that stupid girl of a wife and that down syndrome son of his.. in one episode of the show he even said 'I have to go back to the ring and break my back so I can support these leeches spending habits, whatever I make they spend in a week' or something to that effect
it was heart breaking to watch.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 11, 2011, 08:40:12 PM
Hogan's family is fucked up. Not Hogan. He did what any father / husband does and that is go out and work to make money for his family. All those ingrades did nothing, never worked a day in their lives and spent money all day. You can even see truth to it in episiodes of Hogan Knows Best.

x100000000000000000000000000

I've been saying this ever since that tv show`

If I had been Hogan I would have taken them on a vacation to Colombia and arranged a coincidental 'accident'

the amount of shit that man went through with that stupid #girl of a wife and that down syndrome son of his.. in one episode of the show he even said 'I have to go back to the ring and break my back so I can support these leeches spending habits, whatever I make they spend in a week' or something to that effect
it was heart breaking to watch.


Hogan ain't no saint in this issue. He's supposed to take care of his family. I don't care how much money he makes. It doesn't give him a license to screw around on his wife and shame his family.

You do that to your wife and no one would be surprised, if she took you to the cleaners as a result.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Doug_Steele on June 11, 2011, 10:50:08 PM
When Warrior mentions Hogan being a possible reason for Randy Savage & Elizabeths divorce, cuz of wife swapping...I was like oh damn!! Then he talks about how he's probably the only guy that ever turned down a swap & sex with Linda Hogan...I was like: Damn!! He's not holding anything back at this point!!

The cocaine stuff meant nothing to me really.

Hilarious how those 2 beat down old dudes are still at each others throats. Lets just hope it doesnt end up with both of them in a pay per view steel cage match. We all know that neither of them could work a match, even when they were in thier prime
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: littleguns on June 12, 2011, 05:58:22 AM
(http://theblemish.com/images/2008/04/hulk-hogan-brooke.jpg)


BROTHER!!!

That is Brooke. HH and Brooke addressed this saying, my Dad has seen me naked, what's wrong with him putting lotion on my legs...
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 12, 2011, 09:27:04 AM
When Warrior mentions Hogan being a possible reason for Randy Savage & Elizabeths divorce, cuz of wife swapping...I was like oh damn!! Then he talks about how he's probably the only guy that ever turned down a swap & sex with Linda Hogan...I was like: Damn!! He's not holding anything back at this point!!

The cocaine stuff meant nothing to me really.

Hilarious how those 2 beat down old dudes are still at each others throats. Lets just hope it doesnt end up with both of them in a pay per view steel cage match. We all know that neither of them could work a match, even when they were in thier prime

As I said earlier, let his ex-wife (and others) tell it, Warrior ain't exactly in the best position to be throwing stones at Hogan, especially if the claims of Helwig's alleged homosexuality have any teeth to them.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 12, 2011, 04:17:13 PM
That is Brooke. HH and Brooke addressed this saying, my Dad has seen me naked, what's wrong with him putting lotion on my legs...


Oh...
Well...

Then, I'd say yeah - that is more than a little bothersome.




Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 12, 2011, 04:18:08 PM
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100408093807/uncyclopedia/images/d/d2/Hulkbrooke.jpg)


BROTHER!!
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Doug_Steele on June 12, 2011, 04:41:47 PM
They need to have a Steele Death Cage match.  8)
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 12, 2011, 07:09:08 PM
Shit on Hogan.  I'm glad his family is leeching him to death.  He killed wrestling for me, so why would I feel anything for the pile of smoldering, non-working, dumb ass promo cutting asshole.......BROTHER !!!!
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 12, 2011, 07:33:46 PM
Shit on Hogan.  I'm glad his family is leeching him to death.  He killed wrestling for me, so why would I feel anything for the pile of smoldering, non-working, dumb ass promo cutting asshole.......









BROTHER !!!!

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100401111803/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/f/fe/Hulk_hogan.jpg/180px-Hulk_hogan.jpg)



^^Fixed.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 12, 2011, 07:34:55 PM

^^Fixed.

Thanks Monty.....  If you think I dislike Hogan, get OLE BIG started.....hahaha
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 12, 2011, 07:47:28 PM
Thanks Monty.....  If you think I dislike Hogan, get OLE BIG started.....hahaha


No problem.
As I've mentioned on here before, I lost A LOT of respect for the guy after those phone tapes were leaked.


Want to know something funny?
Years ago, I was hanging out the other trainees backstage at an indy show, and I made some kind of light-hearted crack about Hogan.
This one young trainee (couldn't have been more than 17) took such offense to my JOKE, that he launched into a 400-word thesis about "everything Hogan's done for the industry."
Honestly, he would not have been that upset had I insulted the grandmother who raised him.

Regardless of how you feel about Hogan, COME ON...it was a f'n JOKE!!
I quickly learned that many wrestlers are actually some of the biggest marks.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 13, 2011, 06:44:30 AM

No problem.
As I've mentioned on here before, I lost A LOT of respect for the guy after those phone tapes were leaked.


Want to know something funny?
Years ago, I was hanging out the other trainees backstage at an indy show, and I made some kind of light-hearted crack about Hogan.
This one young trainee (couldn't have been more than 17) took such offense to my JOKE, that he launched into a 400-word thesis about "everything Hogan's done for the industry."
Honestly, he would not have been that upset had I insulted the grandmother who raised him.

Regardless of how you feel about Hogan, COME ON...it was a f'n JOKE!!
I quickly learned that many wrestlers are actually some of the biggest marks.

That's because you have idiots that take everything far to seriously. You see it on here all the time. One guy makes a comment, then next thing you know, a fucking book is being typed out with paragraphs, history lessons and quotes from google.  ;)
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 13, 2011, 09:19:27 AM
That's because you have idiots that take everything far to seriously. You see it on here all the time. One guy makes a comment, then next thing you know, a fucking book is being typed out with paragraphs, history lessons and quotes from google.  ;)


I ever tell you about my uncle?
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 13, 2011, 10:30:14 AM

I ever tell you about my uncle?
I believe you mentioned him once.  :D
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: mass 04 on June 13, 2011, 03:00:44 PM
Honestly, he would not have been that upset had I insulted the grandmother who raised him.
Hulkamania raised me.....












BROTHER!!!
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 13, 2011, 03:04:39 PM
That's my line!!

 >:( :D
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 14, 2011, 04:45:06 AM
I was born and raised on Hogan and Flair in the eighties but like the business I evolved into the attitude era and still deem its my favorite time of wrestling 1998-2002. Austin 316 - McMahon fued was gold.  :D
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 14, 2011, 07:47:25 AM
I was born and raised on Hogan and Flair in the eighties but like the business I evolved into the attitude era and still deem its my favorite time of wrestling 1998-2002. Austin 316 - McMahon fued was gold.  :D


I was raised on Hogan and Flair as well. But, while the "Attitude" era was good, it doesn't quite compare to the Federation years. Hogan's first name was "The World Wrestling Federation"; his middle name was "Heavyweight Champion"; last name was "Hulk Hogan".

If anyone but Hogan had the belt, it just didn't look or feel right, not Savage, not Warrior, not Slaughter, not Undertaker.

Austin didn't have that effect and his heyday was two and half years (late 1996 to 1999). Then Rock took over (2000-2001).

Hogan WAS the then-WWF, pure and simple. Anyone who fought him was in the main event, from Earthquake to "The Genius".

Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 14, 2011, 11:13:35 AM
Hogan/Andre. Then $ hiring Andre to get him the belt. Mania 4 tournament. Then the Mega Powers exploding. Sitting on the edge of my chair excitement. Attitude Era was great. But these were some of the best days of my life.

I notice you didn't count Hogan/Warrior at WrestleMania 6.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 14, 2011, 07:22:29 PM
That was the end of Hulkamainia for me. He was never the same after that. I hated the whole Slaughter fued as well. Plus when he teamed with Jimmy Hart. I didn't watch any of his WCW stuff. Up until Mania 6 Hogan was my hero. That loss to Warrior was life changing.

Not to me. I knew that he'd get the belt back. But, as Jack Tunney basically stated that there'd be no rematch, it was just a matter of seeing which heel would beat Warrior. The LAST person I thought it would be was Slaughter.

I was hoping it'd be "Ravishing" Rick Rude (he beat Warrior before for the IC title). I thought it'd might be DiBiase; I could have even stomached Macho King with the belt again.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Playboy on June 15, 2011, 05:52:01 AM
I would have loved to have seen Rude beat Warrior again. That would have been interesting.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: indie-lad on June 17, 2011, 03:24:44 PM
Here it is!!! Sit back and enjoy!!!!

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Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 17, 2011, 04:01:51 PM
Here it is!!! Sit back and enjoy!!!!

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Wow!!
I thought for sure this would be something Ultimate Jimmy would be selling.
Maybe he's doubting his o.W.n. marketability.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Doug_Steele on June 17, 2011, 04:06:37 PM
Here it is!!! Sit back and enjoy!!!!

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My buddy worked in Wrestling and has told me numerous times that the Ultimate Warrior was a nut, but also told the truth.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 17, 2011, 08:05:40 PM
Here it is!!! Sit back and enjoy!!!!

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I managed to do half of that.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: polychronopolous on June 17, 2011, 11:46:31 PM
My buddy worked in Wrestling and has told me numerous times that the Ultimate Warrior was a nut, but also told the truth.

Exactly.

Warrior does come across as a nut but he makes alot of valid points.

I have heard Hogan make fun of Randy Savage numerous times on the radio, and really saying alot of deragatory comments just to get a few laughs. It's also true that Savage WAS there for his father and probably didn't give two shits about the limelight unlike Hogans family with their reality shows and several attempted spin offs.

It's also true that Savage was involved in alot charitable events and it doesn't put the best light on Hogan with his behavior towards Savage, his jailhouse tapes, harrasing of the Honky Tonk man, etc etc etc.

As to all the Hogan marks in this forum...I get it..I grew up right in the middle of Hulkamania. I was a fan when I was like 9.... I bought into all that bullshit.

But for some to come in here and just bash Hellwig for what he is doing...just watch the clips, the dude does make a lot of points.

The title of the clips are so spot on.... "Karma Collects"
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 18, 2011, 04:08:57 AM
Exactly.

Warrior does come across as a nut but he makes alot of valid points.

I have heard Hogan make fun of Randy Savage numerous times on the radio, and really saying alot of deragatory comments just to get a few laughs. It's also true that Savage WAS there for his father and probably didn't give two shits about the limelight unlike Hogans family with their reality shows and several attempted spin offs.

It's also true that Savage was involved in alot charitable events and it doesn't put the best light on Hogan with his behavior towards Savage, his jailhouse tapes, harrasing of the Honky Tonk man, etc etc etc.

As to all the Hogan marks in this forum...I get it..I grew up right in the middle of Hulkamania. I was a fan when I was like 9.... I bought into all that bullshit.

But for some to come in here and just bash Hellwig for what he is doing...just watch the clips, the dude does make a lot of points.

The title of the clips are so spot on.... "Karma Collects"



Precisely...which is why I bash them both.
 ;)

But seriously, as I mentioned on page 5 of this thread: yeah, the prison tapes lead me to lose substantial respect for Hulk Bollea and his prick boy.
Although, what was the deal with Honky Tonk?
I thought those two were pals.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on June 20, 2011, 06:00:04 AM
Exactly.

Warrior does come across as a nut but he makes alot of valid points.

I have heard Hogan make fun of Randy Savage numerous times on the radio, and really saying alot of deragatory comments just to get a few laughs. It's also true that Savage WAS there for his father and probably didn't give two shits about the limelight unlike Hogans family with their reality shows and several attempted spin offs.

It's also true that Savage was involved in alot charitable events and it doesn't put the best light on Hogan with his behavior towards Savage, his jailhouse tapes, harrasing of the Honky Tonk man, etc etc etc.

As to all the Hogan marks in this forum...I get it..I grew up right in the middle of Hulkamania. I was a fan when I was like 9.... I bought into all that bullshit.

But for some to come in here and just bash Hellwig for what he is doing...just watch the clips, the dude does make a lot of points.

The title of the clips are so spot on.... "Karma Collects"


And what's the point of all this, again, other than Warrior basically admitting that he is as dependent on Hogan for his existence NOW, as he was back then?

What more can he do to Hogan that hasn't already been done, especially with his divorce?

And, per his ex-wife's testimony, Warrior is in no position to cast stones about Hogan's life.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 20, 2011, 10:59:52 AM

Precisely...which is why I bash them both.
 ;)

But seriously, as I mentioned on page 5 of this thread: yeah, the prison tapes lead me to lose substantial respect for Hulk Bollea and his prick boy.
Although, what was the deal with Honky Tonk?
I thought those two were pals.

I think Honky was one of the guys who did a shoot on Hogan and how he really was backstage, how every match of the night had to be aproved by Hogan , how he basically ran the dressing room and also that he smoke a shitload of marijuanna and other things, they're on youtube somewhere, google honky tonk man shoot
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 20, 2011, 01:34:30 PM
I think Honky was one of the guys who did a shoot on Hogan and how he really was backstage, how every match of the night had to be aproved by Hogan , how he basically ran the dressing room and also that he smoke a shitload of marijuanna and other things, they're on youtube somewhere, google honky tonk man shoot


So in other words Hogan hates him for telling the truth.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: littleguns on June 21, 2011, 04:07:14 AM
Can I have 8 minutes back pls.....

Maybe UW is looking for hush money.....

I would actually be interested in seeing a book by Hellwig...
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Fallsview on June 21, 2011, 06:38:19 AM
Can I have 8 minutes back pls.....

Maybe UW is looking for hush money.....

I would actually be interested in seeing a book by Hellwig...

Could you imagine a book by the Ulitmate Warrior?  250 pages of incomprehensive babble just like his interviews...lol
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 21, 2011, 04:48:02 PM
"Load the spaceship with the rocket-fuel!!"
 ;)


Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: leaky_frog on June 23, 2011, 12:19:44 PM
Could you imagine a book by the Ulitmate Warrior?  250 pages of incomprehensive babble just like his interviews...lol

It'd be a train wreck, but I'd totally buy it and wade through it cover to cover.  Warrior's rants are like a car accident; you can't help but look.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on June 23, 2011, 05:19:27 PM
Mike Killam wrote, what I thought, was a decent take on the whole "Grumpy Old Men" saga.
In fact, he makes some very astute points.
credit: http://www.wrestlezone.com/editorials/article/ruining-pro-wrestling-the-hoganwarrior-saga-131737



Ruining Pro Wrestling

It really speaks to the quality of pro wrestling's juggernaut, as well as their red-headed step-brother, that the most interesting thing we have to pay attention to are the hateful words being passed between two former icons way past their primes. Is there really nothing more thrilling than watching the Ultimate Warrior piss all over the legacy of Hulk Hogan via YouTube? Do you really think a single fan would have paid attention to Warrior's ramblings (I'm trademarking that) during the Austin Era? Sure there are a percentage of people that love the behind-the-scenes drama that is inevitably produced in the professional wrestling industry, but as fans our primary entertainment comes from the product they put in front of us.

This week I heard a guy on Twitter say that Warrior is doing exactly what Zack Ryder does (using the internet to get him over), and if people are going to hate on one of the greatest of all time, they need to start hating on Ryder as well. There is a very large difference between what a current WWE Superstar does to get himself face-time and what a retired has-been does to slander somebody else's name. Zack Ryder hasn't been used by the WWE since his tag team days, and even then he was pretty low on the totem poll. Lately he's been making occasional appearances on WWE Superstars, and spotted around Raw arenas just to toy with his fans. I've never really liked Ryder's gimmick, but I respect him for refusing to sit back and wait to be used. He started his own show on his own time, and promoted it himself. It has since grown into one of the most popular channel's on YouTube and his cult following has turned into more of a legion. The decently loud “we want Ryder” chants at last night's Capitol Punishment PPV are proof that his popularity is growing. The Ultimate Warrior, on the other hand, has been off of WWE programming (full-time) for the better part of 20 years. The only thing he has in common with Zack Ryder is he wants to promote himself. Don't let Warrior's self-righteous attitude fool you. In no way did he reveal scandalous tidbits about the Hogan family because he was “doing the right thing”. He didn't do it because there is a collective of “warriors” out there who “want the truth”. Warrior did what Warrior did...for Warrior. He said himself he has a book coming out, and that's reason enough to put some spotlight on himself, especially if the book is going to contain terrible stories about other people. I wasn't even that upset by him bashing Hulk Hogan. What got me was that he did it all in the name of the fans, and I for one do not want to be responsible for tarnishing the name of another human being.

Let's look at facts for a second... Or, if not facts, let look at the highly speculated internet rumors we've all become so well acquainted with over the years. Hulk Hogan is in business for himself. Everyone knows that Hogan is a greedy “summa bitch” who never lets other people get over. If Warrior is really trying to shock us with the idea that Hogan kept him down, he's about 15 years too late to the party. But you also have to be objective, and look at the money that came from Hulk Hogan being on top for so very long. Hulkamania raked in more cash than the WWE has ever, and probably will ever see again. Hulk Hogan was the “it” figure in not only pro wrestling, but 80s culture for many years. To this day, when non-fans think of professional wrestling, the name Hulk Hogan is usually the first to pop into their heads. Could it be that Vince McMahon and the powers-that-be in the 1980s were even more responsible for Hogan going over so much?

What kills me is that none of this crap really matters. Who cares? Sean Waltman (X-Pac) recently wrote about the goings-on between Hogan and Warrior on his website (realxpac.com) and I strongly encourage you to check it out. As an inside source into the world of pro wrestling, his opinions are a lot more legitimate and objective than most, and he does a great job of dispelling some of the hypocrisy in Warrior's comments.

All this drama that has nothing to do with the televised product is killing wrestling. I'm not sure what Warrior intended to happen from all of this, but it sure as hell will not end in a match at Madison Square Garden. There is no payoff for the fans when any of this garbage gets spread around. What Hulk Hogan has done or is doing is his own business, and if he can go out there and give us a great wrestling product, I really could care less about the political situations. Granted, I'm still waiting to see a “great wrestling product” from him, but the point still remains. Once you start concerning yourself with all the negative “real life” situations going on, the actual entertainment product seems less important. Who cares about the Miz and Cena at WrestleMania, Alex Riley was just arrested! Does it matter that Ric Flair just put on one of the best matches in recent TNA history when we're too busy making assumptions about his time on the UK tour? And why does the Band matter when Scott Hall is struggling with his demons and X-Pac can't work with Vince Russo?

There is a reason I never followed Matt Hardy on Twitter while he was trying to use the IWC and his unprofessional remarks against his own company to get him fired. I was trying desperately to ignore the stupidity of my favorite entertainers and enjoy a product I've been a fan of for most of my life. I want to look back at Hulk Hogan and remember WrestleMania III, just like I want to look back on the Ultimate Warrior and not immediately think of him in his basement, surrounded by images of himself, talking about how some other guy is a self-centered jackass. That's why I love Stone Cold, Chris Jericho, and the Rock. They all have lives outside of the pro wrestling business, but they're decent human beings who keep their business professional and it almost never interferes with how we see their characters on television. When the Rock makes his return for WrestleMania, or if Jericho ever comes back to us, it won't be an open forum for all the scandal they've been causing in their time away from the company. They walk out to that ring, and it's time to perform.

Send all comments to MikeKillam@gmail.com and be sure to follow on Twitter @killeReview.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Sofa King on July 01, 2011, 06:17:24 AM
So if Stalin and Hitler had a kid together (Conan O'brien skit style} it would be Hulk Hogan......... man who knew? My mind is completely blown right now!

In other news Warrior continues to cling to his 15 minutes of fame that Vince and Hulk gave him despite Earwig having zero talent.

Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: mass 04 on July 01, 2011, 06:36:24 AM
Linda Hogan appeared on the KQRS morning show on Wednesday to promote her new book. Linda spoke about a number of topics, including recent allegations by the Ultimate Warrior that she and Hulk Hogan had an "open marriage.' She denies that claim and says based on what she's heard, Warrior is gay.

You can listen to the full interview at KQRS.com.

Regarding Warrior's claim that she and Hulk had an open marriage where each of them had romantic relationships on the side, Linda responded, "It's shock value. There's no truth to it as far as I'm concerned. As far as my life and what I've done and where I've been, absolutely no truth to it at all."

Linda claims she doesn't even know Warrior - and based on what she's heard, Warrior is gay. "I don't even know that guy. I've seen him behind the scenes at wrestling events back in the day. He's never been to our house. My kids don't know him. I've never met him other than hi or bye at an event. The truth is I don't know what my husband said to him. I don't know what they did behind the scenes. I wasn't even aware what my husband was doing in our marriage behind the scenes recently. In fact, the rumor is that Warrior is gay."

Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Sofa King on July 01, 2011, 06:56:24 AM
Regarding Warrior's claim that she and Hulk had an open marriage where each of them had romantic relationships on the side, Linda responded, "It's shock value. There's no truth to it as far as I'm concerned. As far as my life and what I've done and where I've been, absolutely no truth to it at all."


This part actually rings true because what guy (other than Schwarzenegger) would have wanted to have sex with a fat fugly hog like Linda? You can put all the clown/whore makeup on it you want but it ain't getting any prettier....
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on July 01, 2011, 07:08:18 AM
Mike Killam wrote, what I thought, was a decent take on the whole "Grumpy Old Men" saga.
In fact, he makes some very astute points.
credit: http://www.wrestlezone.com/editorials/article/ruining-pro-wrestling-the-hoganwarrior-saga-131737



Ruining Pro Wrestling

It really speaks to the quality of pro wrestling's juggernaut, as well as their red-headed step-brother, that the most interesting thing we have to pay attention to are the hateful words being passed between two former icons way past their primes. Is there really nothing more thrilling than watching the Ultimate Warrior piss all over the legacy of Hulk Hogan via YouTube? Do you really think a single fan would have paid attention to Warrior's ramblings (I'm trademarking that) during the Austin Era? Sure there are a percentage of people that love the behind-the-scenes drama that is inevitably produced in the professional wrestling industry, but as fans our primary entertainment comes from the product they put in front of us.

This week I heard a guy on Twitter say that Warrior is doing exactly what Zack Ryder does (using the internet to get him over), and if people are going to hate on one of the greatest of all time, they need to start hating on Ryder as well. There is a very large difference between what a current WWE Superstar does to get himself face-time and what a retired has-been does to slander somebody else's name. Zack Ryder hasn't been used by the WWE since his tag team days, and even then he was pretty low on the totem poll. Lately he's been making occasional appearances on WWE Superstars, and spotted around Raw arenas just to toy with his fans. I've never really liked Ryder's gimmick, but I respect him for refusing to sit back and wait to be used. He started his own show on his own time, and promoted it himself. It has since grown into one of the most popular channel's on YouTube and his cult following has turned into more of a legion. The decently loud “we want Ryder” chants at last night's Capitol Punishment PPV are proof that his popularity is growing. The Ultimate Warrior, on the other hand, has been off of WWE programming (full-time) for the better part of 20 years. The only thing he has in common with Zack Ryder is he wants to promote himself. Don't let Warrior's self-righteous attitude fool you. In no way did he reveal scandalous tidbits about the Hogan family because he was “doing the right thing”. He didn't do it because there is a collective of “warriors” out there who “want the truth”. Warrior did what Warrior did...for Warrior. He said himself he has a book coming out, and that's reason enough to put some spotlight on himself, especially if the book is going to contain terrible stories about other people. I wasn't even that upset by him bashing Hulk Hogan. What got me was that he did it all in the name of the fans, and I for one do not want to be responsible for tarnishing the name of another human being.

Let's look at facts for a second... Or, if not facts, let look at the highly speculated internet rumors we've all become so well acquainted with over the years. Hulk Hogan is in business for himself. Everyone knows that Hogan is a greedy “summa bitch” who never lets other people get over. If Warrior is really trying to shock us with the idea that Hogan kept him down, he's about 15 years too late to the party. But you also have to be objective, and look at the money that came from Hulk Hogan being on top for so very long. Hulkamania raked in more cash than the WWE has ever, and probably will ever see again. Hulk Hogan was the “it” figure in not only pro wrestling, but 80s culture for many years. To this day, when non-fans think of professional wrestling, the name Hulk Hogan is usually the first to pop into their heads. Could it be that Vince McMahon and the powers-that-be in the 1980s were even more responsible for Hogan going over so much?

What kills me is that none of this crap really matters. Who cares? Sean Waltman (X-Pac) recently wrote about the goings-on between Hogan and Warrior on his website (realxpac.com) and I strongly encourage you to check it out. As an inside source into the world of pro wrestling, his opinions are a lot more legitimate and objective than most, and he does a great job of dispelling some of the hypocrisy in Warrior's comments.

All this drama that has nothing to do with the televised product is killing wrestling. I'm not sure what Warrior intended to happen from all of this, but it sure as hell will not end in a match at Madison Square Garden. There is no payoff for the fans when any of this garbage gets spread around. What Hulk Hogan has done or is doing is his own business, and if he can go out there and give us a great wrestling product, I really could care less about the political situations. Granted, I'm still waiting to see a “great wrestling product” from him, but the point still remains. Once you start concerning yourself with all the negative “real life” situations going on, the actual entertainment product seems less important. Who cares about the Miz and Cena at WrestleMania, Alex Riley was just arrested! Does it matter that Ric Flair just put on one of the best matches in recent TNA history when we're too busy making assumptions about his time on the UK tour? And why does the Band matter when Scott Hall is struggling with his demons and X-Pac can't work with Vince Russo?

There is a reason I never followed Matt Hardy on Twitter while he was trying to use the IWC and his unprofessional remarks against his own company to get him fired. I was trying desperately to ignore the stupidity of my favorite entertainers and enjoy a product I've been a fan of for most of my life. I want to look back at Hulk Hogan and remember WrestleMania III, just like I want to look back on the Ultimate Warrior and not immediately think of him in his basement, surrounded by images of himself, talking about how some other guy is a self-centered jackass. That's why I love Stone Cold, Chris Jericho, and the Rock. They all have lives outside of the pro wrestling business, but they're decent human beings who keep their business professional and it almost never interferes with how we see their characters on television. When the Rock makes his return for WrestleMania, or if Jericho ever comes back to us, it won't be an open forum for all the scandal they've been causing in their time away from the company. They walk out to that ring, and it's time to perform.

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Couldn't have said it much better. Helwig just looks utterly pathetic, at this point, making himself to be The Ultimate DOOFUS!!!

HOGAN KEPT HIM DOWN!!??? ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!??

"So you go to the biggest event of the year, in the main event of the biggest event of the year, in one of the biggest venues of the year, wrestling the biggest star in the company, and YOU WIN!! I'd say you got launched pretty well!! Looking back, there's nothing more that this company, or Hulk Hogan, or Vince McMahon, or anyone else could have done to launch the Ultimate Warrior. - Jim Ross, from "Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior", regarding Warrior's win at WrestleMania 6.  

A clean win over Hogan, in his prime, for the World title, at WrestleMania, in front of 68,000 people........That's real oppresion there, BROTHER!!!  ::)

What can he do to Hogan at this point? The man just went through a bitter divorce and got taken to the cleaners. He almost killed himself, for goodness sake.

Hogan hit rock bottom. But, he's bounced back. If he can overcome that, the least of his concerns is a cracked-in-the-head jealous Warrior, who STILL shows his dependence on Hogan for his very existence.

Bobby Heenan said it best, Hogan hand-fed this guy and made the Ultimate Warrior. Whatever he's got, he owes to Hogan and Vince McMahon".

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you? But for those two men, Helwing would be (as Heenan also put it on "Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior), a guy who "came out of Gold's gym with a can of tuna and a raw egg and said 'Hey, there's a WWE truck; I'm going to go down there and tell them I'm a wrestler!'".

And, as X-pac (Waltman) said, these allegations of Warrior being gay have been around for some time. His ex-wife makes the claim, calling Helwig a hypocrite for his "anti-gay" statements on his blog and at college seminars. There was a YouTube clip of Missy Hyatt going into more detail about Warrior's gay stuff, in which she's at an expo with an Ultimate Warrior action figure in her hand. After making her statements, she looks at the toy and says, "You F---G F*@&#T!!!"
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: littleguns on July 09, 2011, 05:02:19 AM
Ok so where is the next boring segment?
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: mass 04 on August 12, 2011, 07:54:39 PM
The following is a new Facebook message from The Ultimate Warrior:

Hey, Terry. If you want some good creative ideas (we all know you sure as hell need them) be man enough to call and offer to pay instead of trolling around my web presence and stealing them.

When you try to copy my Warrior attiude it doesn't work for you. The size of it is too big. When you try to pull it off you look like a x-small boy drowning in his daddy's XXXL. What's your "purist Christian wife" going to say when you start dropping F' bombs like the Warriorman? Probably soemthing like, "Well, honey, it would be kinda nice if some of that was going on around here."

Just be you. Number One rule of O.W.N.

The fraud you already are is the one we love. All these years you keep going back and forth and all over the map trying to find yourself. Please, no more "new" phony faces.

You've finally done it. Your mind is empty and your balls are all shriveled up. You've officially turned yourself into a Vagina Man, a real pussy. And now, your daughter has to show hers to get any attention at all.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on August 13, 2011, 05:10:53 AM
The following is a new Facebook message from The Ultimate Warrior:

Hey, Terry. If you want some good creative ideas (we all know you sure as hell need them) be man enough to call and offer to pay instead of trolling around my web presence and stealing them.

When you try to copy my Warrior attiude it doesn't work for you. The size of it is too big. When you try to pull it off you look like a x-small boy drowning in his daddy's XXXL. What's your "purist Christian wife" going to say when you start dropping F' bombs like the Warriorman? Probably soemthing like, "Well, honey, it would be kinda nice if some of that was going on around here."

Just be you. Number One rule of O.W.N.

The fraud you already are is the one we love. All these years you keep going back and forth and all over the map trying to find yourself. Please, no more "new" phony faces.

You've finally done it. Your mind is empty and your balls are all shriveled up. You've officially turned yourself into a Vagina Man, a real pussy. And now, your daughter has to show hers to get any attention at all.


Anybody else think this is all a work?
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: mass 04 on August 13, 2011, 07:06:59 AM

Anybody else think this is all a work?
I hope so. In these trying times, Hogan-Warrior III just might be what the world needs.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on August 13, 2011, 08:21:41 AM
I hope so. In these trying times, Hogan-Warrior III just might be what the world needs.


Seriously, it wouldn't surprise me if they're cooking something up...or trying to, anyway.
99.999% of people will do ANYTHING if the money's right; including casting aside whatever differences they had and/or have.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: mass 04 on August 14, 2011, 08:44:44 AM
Timmy never really watched WCW. Was Hulkster/Warrior II really that bad?
The fireball totally made up for it.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: mass 04 on August 17, 2011, 05:05:12 PM
WWTDD.com

Linda Hogan has a new book called “Wrestling the Hulk: My Life Against The Ropes”, and in the prologue she talks about why she left Hulk Hogan, how she “summoned the courage to take the first step toward happiness”, and how she hopes her story will inspire other women, “to move on in their own lives.”

There’s nothing in the prologue about why she still calls herself Linda Hogan still even though they divorced 4 years ago or why she’s posing in a wrestling ring for the cover of a book about how she wanted to have her own life away from the wrestler, but it didn’t mention this seemingly relevant aspect of Hulks life either.


(Linda) appeared on Matty P’s Radio Happy Hour when the host went through a series of questions culled from fan emails; at one point, he asked Linda if Hulk and Brutus Beefcake carried on “an intimate relationship.”
“Wow, I don’t know how to answer this, so I don’t end up getting a lawsuit,” she said, laughing. “A little bird told me, ‘Yes they think they did.’”
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I really hope this creature gets what's coming to her.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on August 17, 2011, 05:09:26 PM
WWTDD.com

Linda Hogan has a new book called “Wrestling the Hulk: My Life Against The Ropes”, and in the prologue she talks about why she left Hulk Hogan, how she “summoned the courage to take the first step toward happiness”, and how she hopes her story will inspire other women, “to move on in their own lives.”

There’s nothing in the prologue about why she still calls herself Linda Hogan still even though they divorced 4 years ago or why she’s posing in a wrestling ring for the cover of a book about how she wanted to have her own life away from the wrestler, but it didn’t mention this seemingly relevant aspect of Hulks life either.


(Linda) appeared on Matty P’s Radio Happy Hour when the host went through a series of questions culled from fan emails; at one point, he asked Linda if Hulk and Brutus Beefcake carried on “an intimate relationship.”
“Wow, I don’t know how to answer this, so I don’t end up getting a lawsuit,” she said, laughing. “A little bird told me, ‘Yes they think they did.’”
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I really hope this creature gets what's coming to her.


Man, she sounds really pathetic and EXTREMELY DESPERATE to sell this book.
I wonder how much bullshit she made up for it.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: littleguns on August 19, 2011, 02:56:55 AM
This whole Hogan/Warrior saga sounds like a scipted WWE work that will have no outcome or conclusion.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on August 19, 2011, 03:47:40 AM
This whole Hogan/Warrior saga sounds like a scipted WWE work that will have no outcome or conclusion.


LOL!!
I remember when WCW held that moniker.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 22, 2011, 01:50:16 PM

LOL!!
I remember when WCW held that moniker.

oWn  for life !!!!!
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: MCWAY on August 24, 2011, 11:04:26 AM
The following is a new Facebook message from The Ultimate Warrior:

Hey, Terry. If you want some good creative ideas (we all know you sure as hell need them) be man enough to call and offer to pay instead of trolling around my web presence and stealing them.

When you try to copy my Warrior attiude it doesn't work for you. The size of it is too big. When you try to pull it off you look like a x-small boy drowning in his daddy's XXXL. What's your "purist Christian wife" going to say when you start dropping F' bombs like the Warriorman? Probably soemthing like, "Well, honey, it would be kinda nice if some of that was going on around here."

Just be you. Number One rule of O.W.N.

The fraud you already are is the one we love. All these years you keep going back and forth and all over the map trying to find yourself. Please, no more "new" phony faces.

You've finally done it. Your mind is empty and your balls are all shriveled up. You've officially turned yourself into a Vagina Man, a real pussy. And now, your daughter has to show hers to get any attention at all.

This is pathetic. I may refer to Warrior as "Little Jimmy", because this is as pea-brained as you can get.

Without Hulk Hogan, The Ultimate Warrior would have been, as Bobby Heenan put, "a guy who came out of Gold's Gym with a can of tuna and a raw egg and said, 'Hey, there's a WWE truck; I'm going to tell them I'm a wrestler'".

He's been living off WrestleMania 6 for over two decades now. That (and his match with Savage) are the two hallmark matches of his career. And, in at least one case (if not both cases), the loser of the match got put over MUCH MORE than he did.

Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Ex Coelis on August 29, 2011, 07:06:30 PM
he wasn't always so angry and hate-filled

Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: littleguns on September 05, 2011, 03:23:53 PM
Did WWE write this storyline? It ended as quick as it started.......Damn Raw Anonymous GM
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: tu_holmes on September 05, 2011, 03:28:22 PM

Man, she sounds really pathetic and EXTREMELY DESPERATE to sell this book.
I wonder how much bullshit she made up for it.

More than you or I want to step in.
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: littleguns on November 08, 2011, 05:39:27 PM
So was there ever an outcome? All hot air and no result....oh wait, was this a WWE script?
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on November 08, 2011, 07:06:06 PM


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Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
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Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: _bruce_ on November 09, 2011, 04:31:48 AM
Linda Hogan appeared on the KQRS morning show on Wednesday to promote her new book. Linda spoke about a number of topics, including recent allegations by the Ultimate Warrior that she and Hulk Hogan had an "open marriage.' She denies that claim and says based on what she's heard, Warrior is gay.

You can listen to the full interview at KQRS.com.

Regarding Warrior's claim that she and Hulk had an open marriage where each of them had romantic relationships on the side, Linda responded, "It's shock value. There's no truth to it as far as I'm concerned. As far as my life and what I've done and where I've been, absolutely no truth to it at all."

Linda claims she doesn't even know Warrior - and based on what she's heard, Warrior is gay. "I don't even know that guy. I've seen him behind the scenes at wrestling events back in the day. He's never been to our house. My kids don't know him. I've never met him other than hi or bye at an event. The truth is I don't know what my husband said to him. I don't know what they did behind the scenes. I wasn't even aware what my husband was doing in our marriage behind the scenes recently. In fact, the rumor is that Warrior is gay."



 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Montague on November 09, 2011, 01:50:18 PM
;D ;D ;D


Warrior responded with, "Yeah, well you're a retard!"
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: littleguns on November 09, 2011, 04:17:07 PM
Not gonna lie as I was a huge fan, more than Hulkamania and although towards the end I thought he was off his rocker, I think alot of what he says is true...

Wasn't aware he bad mouthed edge about retiring
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Karl Kox on November 20, 2011, 07:59:44 AM


p.s. monster Pottery Barn buy one get one free paintings.

Hahahaha
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 20, 2011, 08:17:23 AM
Hahahaha

Where the hell you been? Cracking ones off?  :D
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: funk51 on November 20, 2011, 08:54:28 AM
good to see karl back on here ;D
Title: Re: Hellwig to "expose" Hogan (2011):
Post by: Karl Kox on November 20, 2011, 01:53:49 PM
Where the hell you been? Cracking ones off?  :D

always  ;D