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Title: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on June 06, 2011, 11:50:44 AM
Mr Avidan:
Although I value the opinions and input of others, what you have in gh15 is an individual who promotes and instructs heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  He disparages anyone with a physique who will not admit to this style of drug use.  He calls anyone who weighs 200 lbs with abs a "liar" if they deny drug use.  gh15 is a one trick pony whose time has come and gone.  Bodybuilding is a hobby and lifestyle which gh15 discourages unless it includes heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  Mr. Avidan, as administrator of this board you have a moral responibilty to ensure the safety of it's readers.  Some of the readers are impressionable kids.  Take out the trash Mr. Avidan.

L. Reeves
Santa Monica, CA 


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on June 06, 2011, 11:52:03 AM
You should have signed it BB L. Reeves, Santa Monica, California.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Internet Tough Guy on June 06, 2011, 11:52:48 AM
Mr Avidan:
Although I value the opinions and input of others, what you have in gh15 is an individual who promotes and instructs heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  He disparages anyone with a physique who will not admit to this style of drug use.  He calls anyone who weighs 200 lbs with abs a "liar" if they deny drug use.  gh15 is a one trick pony whose time has come and gone.  Bodybuilding is a hobby and lifestyle which gh15 discourages unless it includes heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  Mr. Avidan, as administrator of this board you have a moral responibilty to ensure the safety of it's readers.  Some of the readers are impressionable kids.  Take out the trash Mr. Avidan.

L. Reeves
Santa Monica, CA 


Hi Alex.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Nails on June 06, 2011, 11:53:35 AM
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Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Dokey111 on June 06, 2011, 12:06:38 PM
Mr Avidan:
Although I value the opinions and input of others, what you have in gh15 is an individual who promotes and instructs heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  He disparages anyone with a physique who will not admit to this style of drug use.  He calls anyone who weighs 200 lbs with abs a "liar" if they deny drug use.  gh15 is a one trick pony whose time has come and gone.  Bodybuilding is a hobby and lifestyle which gh15 discourages unless it includes heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  Mr. Avidan, as administrator of this board you have a moral responibilty to ensure the safety of it's readers.  Some of the readers are impressionable kids.  Take out the trash Mr. Avidan.

L. Reeves
Santa Monica, CA 



agreed


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 06, 2011, 12:27:27 PM
  GH15 is a troll and a retard. Everything that he has to say is refuted by the fact that the basic idea that all of his other ideas revolve, that pro bodybuilders look the way they do because of drugs and only drugs, is prima fasce wrong because there are thousands of bodybuilders in the World that take the exact same drugs as the pros in exact the same dosages and they do not look like the pros. Case closed. GH15 is a snake oil salesman who sells the idea to envious individuals that they aren't as big and ripped as pros only because of drugs, and that they would be if they only took as much drugs. It makes a lot of failed bodybuilders feel good about themselves and makes him popular in the boards, but it is a lie, and many people could get seriously sick or even die for following his advice.

   Do you want some kid to die of insulin shock or remain brain damaged for life because they listened to GH15? Do you want some kid to have a stroke or need a new kidney in less than 6 months for taking trenbolone in the ridiculous amounts that GH15 recommends? Do you want some kid to have to undergo painful surgery to remove part of his intestines that have grown too large to fit the body because he listened to GH15? Ban this troll. He abuses the board's bandwidth by starting multiple threads a day, every day, day after day.

  Starting a thread is a big deal. Most posters do not start threads at all, and some post here for years without starting a thread. Starting a thread means taking the board's bandwidth and is a very big deal. I am a veteran poster and I start a few threads a year at the most. GH15 starts several threads every day, day after day after day, for 5 years now. Make this bitch stop, please.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 12:39:55 PM
retard,,i barely even write on getbig until recently as much as i do right now ,,go look in my average postings per day ...and look at total count,,7000 postings in 6 years lol

lutenent! lol

i say the TRUTH ,,the truth hurts! any serious bodybuild NEVER ARGUE ME,,do you know why? why doesnt the hungarian come all out here arguing with me,,why doesnt liar priest come on here besdie his gimick balonie come here on his name and argue with me? why?? because he knows i am spon on! ,,he knows that behind the screen there is someone WHO WALKED THE WALK ,,not only talk the talk ,,

you can not and i wil not stand for cult that abuses his members,, my pupils hav been abused for years over years for decades,,their money was taken out of their parents pockets,,I PUT AN END TO IT,, now true it still doesnt bring true protien to bankrapcy ...because thats not the purpose,,the puspose was to put reality and truth into up and coming bodybuilders,,and aqdvance them ,,with it came decline in the selling of suplement company ,,

gh15 has HUGE pull ,,it is true,,but i dont abuse this pull,,never taken money for  anything unlike majority of the snake oil sellers,,and never promoted anyone who wasnt legit and  worthy of it,,

very simple to understand


gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 06, 2011, 12:48:15 PM
retard,,i barely even write on getbig until recently as much as i do right now ,,go look in my average postings per day ...and look at total count,,7000 postings in 6 years lol

lutenent! lol

i say the TRUTH ,,the truth hurts! any serious bodybuild NEVER ARGUE ME,,do you know why? why doesnt the hungarian come all out here arguing with me,,why doesnt liar priest come on here besdie his gimick balonie come here on his name and argue with me? why?? because he knows i am spon on! ,,he knows that behind the screen there is someone WHO WALKED THE WALK ,,not only talk the talk ,,

you can not and i wil not stand for cult that abuses his members,, my pupils hav been abused for years over years for decades,,their money was taken out of their parents pockets,,I PUT AN END TO IT,, now true it still doesnt bring true protien to bankrapcy ...because thats not the purpose,,the puspose was to put reality and truth into up and coming bodybuilders,,and aqdvance them ,,with it came decline in the selling of suplement company ,,

gh15 has HUGE pull ,,it is true,,but i dont abuse this pull,,never taken money for  anything unlike majority of the snake oil sellers,,and never promoted anyone who wasnt legit and was worth it,,

very simple to understand


gh15 approved

  This has nothing to do with your post count, you moron. Yeah, you have 7,000 posts, and pretty much all of them are threads that you started. You have started way more threads than all other posters have. And in all of them you, without being an M.D, give advice on the use of drugs that could potentially result in serious illness or death to those who follow it. In fact even a physician could not give such advice, since all these substances are controlled and a physician can only tell you how to use them if you have medical need for them. You troll, put people at risk and break the law every time you post. There is no one who deserves to get canned more than ya.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: dr.chimps on June 06, 2011, 12:49:52 PM
retard,,i barely even write on getbig until recently as much as i do right now ,,go look in my average postings per day ...and look at total count,,7000 postings in 6 years lol

lutenent! lol

i say the TRUTH ,,the truth hurts! any serious bodybuild NEVER ARGUE ME,,do you know why? why doesnt the hungarian come all out here arguing with me,,why doesnt liar priest come on here besdie his gimick balonie come here on his name and argue with me? why?? because he knows i am spon on! ,,he knows that behind the screen there is someone WHO WALKED THE WALK ,,not only talk the talk ,,

you can not and i wil not stand for cult that abuses his members,, my pupils hav been abused for years over years for decades,,their money was taken out of their parents pockets,,I PUT AN END TO IT,, now true it still doesnt bring true protien to bankrapcy ...because thats not the purpose,,the puspose was to put reality and truth into up and coming bodybuilders,,and aqdvance them ,,with it came decline in the selling of suplement company ,,

gh15 has HUGE pull ,,it is true,,but i dont abuse this pull,,never taken money for  anything unlike majority of the snake oil sellers,,and never promoted anyone who wasnt legit and  worthy of it,,

very simple to understand


gh15 approved
Wow. You're a saint, except for all that, you know, selling of steroids. Oh brother.  


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: tommywishbone on June 06, 2011, 12:51:46 PM
Does anyone actually take his advice regarding pharmacology? I assumed it was just an ongoing joke.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 12:52:24 PM
  This has nothing to do with your post count, you moron. Yeah, you have 7,000 posts, and pretty much all of them are threads that you started. You have started way more threads than all other posters have. And in all of them you, without being an M.D, give advice on the use of drugs that could potentially result in serious illness or death to those who follow it. In fact even a physician could not give such advice, since all these substances are controlled and a physician can only tell you how to use them if you have medical need for them. You troll, put people at risk and break the law every time you post. There is no one who deserves to get canned more than ya.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

breaking law? really now? ,,,hormones are not controlled in many places around world,,in americana they are legal and controlled ,,still legal! ,,no one everr got problem for personal supply EVER,, and the most rediculous balonie you just said is in the fact...

that you have raymond taking more hormones than i ever usd in my whole career and is walking free in americana,,philsulina is swimming in hormones doped to the maximus t alwys look lik ehe is on yper and coke...and he walk free ...he is respected citizen his city love him ,,he pay good taxes,,,and jason ..same exact thing for many mnay years ...lives in mention ! lol

think before you talk ,,all the ifbb and npc are juiced to the maximus max and you talk abotu law??? who will come for you? they first will nail down all the mega dosers ,,do you see them in prison? in jail? any probnlems? no!

dismissed

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Deicide on June 06, 2011, 12:52:56 PM
gh15 brings the funny.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: _bruce_ on June 06, 2011, 12:53:23 PM
GH15 stays.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Krankenstein on June 06, 2011, 12:54:48 PM
retard,,i barely even write on getbig until recently as much as i do right now ,,go look in my average postings per day ...and look at total count,,7000 postings in 6 years lol

lutenent! lol

i say the TRUTH ,,the truth hurts! any serious bodybuild NEVER ARGUE ME,,do you know why? why doesnt the hungarian come all out here arguing with me,,why doesnt liar priest come on here besdie his gimick balonie come here on his name and argue with me? why?? because he knows i am spon on! ,,he knows that behind the screen there is someone WHO WALKED THE WALK ,,not only talk the talk ,,

you can not and i wil not stand for cult that abuses his members,, my pupils hav been abused for years over years for decades,,their money was taken out of their parents pockets,,I PUT AN END TO IT,, now true it still doesnt bring true protien to bankrapcy ...because thats not the purpose,,the puspose was to put reality and truth into up and coming bodybuilders,,and aqdvance them ,,with it came decline in the selling of suplement company ,,

gh15 has HUGE pull ,,it is true,,but i dont abuse this pull,,never taken money for  anything unlike majority of the snake oil sellers,,and never promoted anyone who wasnt legit and  worthy of it,,

very simple to understand


gh15 approved

Zzzzzzzzzzz ......oh shit, I fell asleep again during one of your posts.  I read a lot of blah, blah, blah.....then BLOOFY!  I feel asleep.

Have a good one pole smoker....oh, and for good measures....go fuck yourself.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 12:54:56 PM
Does anyone actually take his advice regarding pharmacology? I assumed it was just an ongoing joke.

anyone? lol gh15 is getting over 100 listen to this closely 100! diff pms every single week from around the world,,over 1 0 0 pms every single week ,, i cant even answer them all ,,no time,,i try to

im not only foolowed but it got to a point that with ONE WORD i can make or break a source,,ONE WORD,,to a point they come kiss my ass too on regular basis,,but i dont take bribes ,,i say it as it is ,,the good ones ,,if my elfs let me know are approved with flying colors ,,and my elfs are real oh they are real all 17 of them

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 12:56:07 PM
these type of polls have been tried before,,not poll but all kind of balonies,,the few haters lol from othrer boardings get here on their gimick and try to rebel god of hormones,,happened before many times,, always fail lol

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Big Worm on June 06, 2011, 12:58:16 PM
Mr Avidan:
Although I value the opinions and input of others, what you have in gh15 is an individual who promotes and instructs heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  He disparages anyone with a physique who will not admit to this style of drug use.  He calls anyone who weighs 200 lbs with abs a "liar" if they deny drug use.  gh15 is a one trick pony whose time has come and gone.  Bodybuilding is a hobby and lifestyle which gh15 discourages unless it includes heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  Mr. Avidan, as administrator of this board you have a moral responibilty to ensure the safety of it's readers.  Some of the readers are impressionable kids.  Take out the trash Mr. Avidan.

L. Reeves
Santa Monica, CA 

I agree with everything you are saying.. But GH15 is one of us..I don't want to see him gone.. But I absolutely am sick and tired of his drug talk.. I think he should be heavily monitored,if folks want to p.m. him,Let them? Who gives a shit..!?


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 06, 2011, 12:59:40 PM
breaking law? really now? ,,,hormones are not controlled in many places around world,,in americana they are legal and controlled ,,still legal! ,,no one everr got problem for personal supply EVER,, and the most rediculous balonie you just said is in the fact...

that you have raymond taking more hormones than i ever usd in my whole career and is walking free in americana,,philsulina is swimming in hormones doped to the maximus t alwys look lik ehe is on yper and coke...and he walk free ...he is respected citizen his city love him ,,he pay good taxes,,,and jason ..same exact thing for many mnay years ...lives in mention ! lol

think before you talk ,,all the ifbb and npc are juiced to the maximus max and you talk abotu law??? who will come for you? they first will nail down all the mega dosers ,,do you see them in prison? in jail? any probnlems? no!

dismissed

gh15 approved

  Giving advice on the use of steroids or how to get them, like you do ad nauseum, constitutes breaking American law. Steroids are Class III controlled substances in the U.S, and giving advice on how to acquire them without a prescription is breaking the law. Getbig.com is registered in the U.S and is owned by an American citizen, hence his is liable to answer to everything that is published on his board to American law. I dont expect a bonehead like you to uderstand, but Ron is jeopardizing many things by letting you troll the boards...

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 01:05:23 PM
 Giving advice on the use of steroids or how to get them, like you do ad nauseum, constitutes breaking American law. Steroids are Class III controlled substances in the U.S, and giving advice on how to acquire them without a prescription is breaking the law. Getbig.com is registered in the U.S and is owned by an American citizen, hence his is liable to answer to everything that is published on his board to American law. I dont expect a bonehead like you to uderstand, but Ron is jeopardizing many things by letting you troll the boards...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

american law can KISS MY ASS,, this is the world we talk about ,,many of my pupils are from sweden and from turkey ,,and from portugal ,,and from isral ,,and from thailand,,and from england ,,and from iceland,,and from douchland,,and from germany and from argentina,,and from venaztuela,,and from brazil ,,and from egypt,,and from all around the fuckin globe ,,

americana law is no concern here and hormones are controlled there not illegal NOT ILLEGAL ,,there is no selling of hormones,,there is discussion of hormones,,it is allowed ,,and many cops reading gh15 and get hormone advice from gh15 ,,many many cops around your lovely americana ,,


so stop with your balonie,,lutenent...lol


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: BustinAss on June 06, 2011, 01:05:34 PM
  This has nothing to do with your post count, you moron. Yeah, you have 7,000 posts, and pretty much all of them are threads that you started. You have started way more threads than all other posters have. And in all of them you, without being an M.D, give advice on the use of drugs that could potentially result in serious illness or death to those who follow it. In fact even a physician could not give such advice, since all these substances are controlled and a physician can only tell you how to use them if you have medical need for them. You troll, put people at risk and break the law every time you post. There is no one who deserves to get canned more than ya.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I am sorry to say this but this is terrible logic.

This is a bodybuilding forum and bodybuilding would not be at its current state without illegal drugs. I hope we all understand this and the only point to talk about is how much drugs people actually take.

Like any other member, GH15 is giving his opinions and experiences. If one decides not to believe them or believes they might be wrong, you are at a good place.

That is what a froum is about and for. If all spoke the same lines with the same conclusion there would be no need for a forum and discussion.

And as for GH15 calling people and encouraging them to do 'bad things'. Is it really necessery to mention that almost all people (including our members) drink, smoke, drive not according to rules, have bad habbits and so on? Steroids, even in very high doses, are not even remotely dangerous as things we as society do each and every day: eat bad, smoke and drink. A look at any statistic in any country in the world will validate this.

Almost 500k people die from smoking every year in the US. 0 people die from steroids. Even if that number is not true and 100, or 1000 or 10.000 people die from steroids, it still is not even remotely in the same death-club as sigarettes. Therefore disgarding potential risks from steroids and putting them in 100%-sure-way-to-die camp is wrong thinking. Society has programmed people to think certain things are bad while the government sells pure poison and people react to it 'oh well, it's a personal choice'.

Realistically speaking talking about drugs does not mean he advises it. GH15 mentions that if one wants to be like people we watch in competitions today one should or must take incredible amount of stuff. Anyone remotely familiar with this sport should recognise the truth in this. Noting bad or good about it, it is what it is.

WIthout putting value or personal opinion, I believe that banning somebody that purely expresses his own opinions (no matter how untrue or bad they might sound) defeats the purpose of a forum. Especially a bb-ing forum where it is a known fact that steroids, GH and Insulin play not a small or medium part in the game, but a key-part.



Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 01:07:09 PM
I agree with everything you are saying.. But GH15 is one of us..I don't want to see him gone.. But I absolutely am sick and tired of his drug talk.. I think he should be heavily monitored,if folks want to p.m. him,Let them? Who gives a shit..!?

i cant be monitored,,i do not agree to be monitored ,,if my truth is not out ,,im out! ,,i want the truth ,,never asked for financial benefits,,never asked for anything but the truth ,,i dotn even care when postings are deleted,, never cared ,,but as you can see the bible is left in most for everyone to read,,why? because its the fuckin truth!

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 01:10:29 PM
you know how many times a week gh15 get request to buy hormones? lol i dont sell hormones,,this is the great thing about gh15,,i am suprior authority yet no source... how lovely is this eh?

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on June 06, 2011, 01:12:42 PM
I am sorry to say this but this is terrible logic.

This is a bodybuilding forum and bodybuilding would not be at its current state without illegal drugs. I hope we all understand this and the only point to talk about is how much drugs people actually take.

Like any other member, GH15 is giving his opinions and experiences. If one decides not to believe them or believes they might be wrong, you are at a good place.

That is what a froum is about and for. If all spoke the same lines with the same conclusion there would be nood need for a forum and discussion.

And as for GH15 calling people and encouraging them to do 'bad things'. Is it really necessery to mention that almost all people (including our members) drink, smoke, drive not according to rules, have bad habbits and so on? Steroids, even in very high doses, are not even remotely dangerous as things we as society do each and every day: eat bad, smoke and drink. A look at any statistic in any country in the world will validate this.

Almost 500k people die from smoking every year in the US. 0 people die from steroids. Even if that number is not true and 100, or 1000 or 10.000 people die from steroids, it still is not even remotely in the same death-club as sigarettes. Therefore disgarding potential risks from steroids and putting them in 100%-sure-way-to-die camp is wrong thinking. Society has programmed people to think certain things are bad while the government sells pure poison and people react to it 'oh well, it's a personal choice'.

Realistically speaking talking about drugs does not mean he advises it. GH15 mentions that if one wants to be like people we watch in competitions today one should or must take incredible amount of stuff. Anyone remotely familiar with this sport should recognise the truth in this. Noting bad or good about it, it is what it is.

WIthout putting value or personal opinion, I believe that banning somebody that purely expresses his own opinions (no matter how untrue or bad they might sound) defeats the purpose of a forum. Especially a bb-ing forum where it is a known fact that steroids, GH and Insulin play not a small or medium part in the game, but a key-part.



Very good post.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: dr.chimps on June 06, 2011, 01:15:40 PM
you know how many times a week gh15 get request to buy hormones? lol i dont sell hormones,,this is the great thing about gh15,,i am suprior authority yet no source... how lovely is this eh?

gh15 approved
Liar. You've bragged openly about being a major distributor, and so major, in fact, that you noted that you don't even consider orders of under $1,000 because it wasn't worth your time or effort.  ::)


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Big Worm on June 06, 2011, 01:17:02 PM
i cant be monitored,,i do not agree to be monitored ,,if my truth is not out ,,im out! ,,i want the truth ,,never asked for financial benefits,,never asked for anything but the truth ,,i dotn even care when postings are deleted,, never cared ,,but as you can see the bible is left in most for everyone to read,,why? because its the fuckin truth!

gh15 approved
First off.... Settle down.. I don't think ,what you have to say(concerning drugs)should be out in the open for anyone to see... If you're so concerned with truth,let's start with your truth, put your real name,so we can look up truth for ourselves... Problem here is,we all have a different definition of truth....
 Better yet,start your own website,then when people are tired of lies,they can go on your site.. ? I see you in a thread,and I avoid you,not for any other reason than,you and I already did this,and you are on high repeat.. So I accepted  that you are what you are,and you have ZERO affect on my life.. I came here to (sort of)side with you,then you Phag up and attack me?  Not cool GH..


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 01:23:39 PM
Liar. You've bragged openly about being a major distributor, and so major, in fact, that you noted that you don't even consider orders of under $1,000 because it wasn't worth your time or effort.  ::)

well ,,and you said i was svestes? was it true? ,, : )  life is strange like this eh friend?

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: mass243 on June 06, 2011, 01:23:49 PM
Hahah... brutal.

Nah, I don't want to get involved in this. Not going to post my information   :D


(http://i53.tinypic.com/684pb6.jpg)


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: dr.chimps on June 06, 2011, 01:24:25 PM
well ,,and you said i was svestes? was it true? ,, : )  life is strange like this eh friend?

gh15 approved
Weak.  ::)


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: BustinAss on June 06, 2011, 01:28:39 PM
I don't think ,what you have to say(concerning drugs)should be out in the open for anyone to see...

What is the reason for this?

If it is that you think that what GH15 says is not true then most threads and forums should be closed. Gossip, lies, thrash-talk and name calling is sadly (just like with people in real life) a key-part of interacting. Just like a forum where mothers and fathers discuss how to bring up their child (biggest responsibilty and possible ill effects) should not be closed. Discussion is key.

Is it that these drugs are in some countries illegal and so people should not be told about them? This is a forum that is visited by people not restricted by those rules and where these things can be bought on the market next to milk. If illegal things and potentialy dangerous things are not open for discussion then most of internet should be closed: porn websites, nazi gatherings, KKK parties, sex with dogs and worms and most other content on the internet is 'not average' to say the least. Still no reason to hide and lock the information.

In the end all people are responsible for their own actions. If not then McDonalds, Marlboro and basically all companies and governments should be shut down in the name of false advertising and conviently 'forgetting' about all those ill effects from their 'wholesome' mothermade products.

In these cases I see that McDonalds promoting salads and low-fat burgers is more in violation then GH15 saying how much GH pro's use.

All should see and know that McDonalds in this case is selling pure lies and bullshit for the sake of money (like most people in general) and with little logic one should see and know that most pro's do indeed use 10+IU of GH a day.

So there is more reason to not talk about food, sex, cars, booze, gambling and most things people like, then not to talk about usage of steroids by a very small minority in society.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 01:29:01 PM
First off.... Settle down.. I don't think ,what you have to say(concerning drugs)should be out in the open for anyone to see... If you're so concerned with truth,let's start with your truth, put your real name,so we can look up truth for ourselves... Problem here is,we all have a different definition of truth....
 Better yet,start your own website,then when people are tired of lies,they can go on your site.. ? I see you in a thread,and I avoid you,not for any other reason than,you and I already did this,and you are on high repeat.. So I accepted  that you are what you are,and you have ZERO affect on my life.. I came here to (sort of)side with you,then you Phag up and attack me?  Not cool GH..

you dont understand what the gh15 is all about,,i dont make friend,,or budd or sisters or brother here,,i do gh15 for the truth ,,SO NEVER EVER WILL THERE BE ONE MORE BODYBUILD WHO COME INTO GYM AND BEING MADE FUN OF ,,EVER AGAIN ,,BUT ANYONE IN THE CULT,,SO HE KNOWS FROM THE GETGO WHAT IT TAKES,,AND THE ONES WHO ABOUT TO MAKE FUN OF HIM KNOW THAT HE MOST LIKLEY BEEN THROUGH THE GOD OF HORMONE UNIVERSITY AND LET HIM BE! ,,

there shall be no more a bodybuild who get in the gym and being the laughin stock of drug addicts,,there shall be no more bodybuild who want to build muscle and quality and tackle bunch of filthy drug addicts whl lie to him about meals and 3 hour a day work outs,,there shall be no more of that,,

why?

BECAUSE  THE ALL NEW GENERATION BEEN THROUGH

THE GH15 HORMONE UNIVERSITY ,,THEY ALL READ THE BIBLE,,

I GOT TO A POINT I AM WORSHIPPED ,,i just went to a gym 2 day ago ,,and in that gym they were talking about gh15 infront of my damn eyes ,,i was doing chin ups when on the back 2 fellas were discussing gh15 hormone protocols,,

now this! is glory

when you got that famos from internet this is big,,and for a reason ,, i didnt lie to them or sold them balonie,,i gave them what they wanted,,

THE TRUTH!

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on June 06, 2011, 01:38:27 PM
There are laws governing the internet, and they are changing with the trend moving towards responsibility and liability.  Instructing people towards illegal behavior and death is an undertaking that should be reconsidered carefully by all parties.

L Reeves
Santa MonicaN CA


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Big Worm on June 06, 2011, 01:38:38 PM
What is the reason for this?

If it is that you think that what GH15 says is not true then most threads and forums should be closed. Gossip, lies, thrash-talk and name calling is sadly (just like with people in real life) a key-part of interacting. Just like a forum where mothers and fathers discuss how to bring up their child (biggest responsibilty and possible ill effects) should not be closed. Discussion is key.

Is it that these drugs are in some countries illegal and so people should not be told about them? This is a forum that is visited by people not restricted by those rules and where these things can be bought on the market next to milk. If illegal things and potentialy dangerous things are not open for discussion then most of internet should be closed: porn websites, nazi gatherings, KKK parties, sex with dogs and worms and most other content on the internet is 'not average' to say the least. Still no reason to hide and lock the information.

In the end all people are responsible for their own actions. If not then McDonalds, Marlboro and basically all companies and governments should be shut down in the name of false advertising and conviently 'forgetting' about all those ill effects from their 'wholesome' mothermade products.

In these cases I see that McDonalds promoting salads and low-fat burgers is more in violation then GH15 saying how much GH pro's use.

All should see and know that McDonalds in this case is selling pure lies and bullshit for the sake of money (like most people in general) and with little logic one should see and know that most pro's do indeed use 10+IU of GH a day.

So there is more reason to not talk about food, sex, cars, booze, gambling and most things people like, then not to talk about usage of steroids by a very small minority in society.
Because,they are drugs...Kids are idiots these days..  McDonalds has been Sued,as well as the tobacco companies..Who and why do you think those commercials are up,and they're paying for it.? When someone gets sick ,at least they know who to go to and place blame(even though they're to blame).. If GH gives info,and it does not agree wit the individual,who do they go to ?  McDonald and Cigarettes are legal,steroids are not..


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: tbombz on June 06, 2011, 01:41:10 PM
 GH15 is a troll and a retard. Everything that he has to say is refuted by the fact that the basic idea that all of his other ideas revolve, that pro bodybuilders look the way they do because of drugs and only drugs, is prima fasce wrong because there are thousands of bodybuilders in the World that take the exact same drugs as the pros in exact the same dosages and they do not look like the pros. Case closed.  

you need to retake basic logic friend


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Big Worm on June 06, 2011, 01:44:36 PM
you dont understand what the gh15 is all about,,i dont make friend,,or budd or sisters or brother here,,i do gh15 for the truth ,,SO NEVER EVER WILL THERE BE ONE MORE BODYBUILD WHO COME INTO GYM AND BEING MADE FUN OF ,,EVER AGAIN ,,BUT ANYONE IN THE CULT,,SO HE KNOWS FROM THE GETGO WHAT IT TAKES,,AND THE ONES WHO ABOUT TO MAKE FUN OF HIM KNOW THAT HE MOST LIKLEY BEEN THROUGH THE GOD OF HORMONE UNIVERSITY AND LET HIM BE! ,,

there shall be no more a bodybuild who get in the gym and being the laughin stock of drug addicts,,there shall be no more bodybuild who want to build muscle and quality and tackle bunch of filthy drug addicts whl lie to him about meals and 3 hour a day work outs,,there shall be no more of that,,

why?

BECAUSE  THE ALL NEW GENERATION BEEN THROUGH

THE GH15 HORMONE UNIVERSITY ,,THEY ALL READ THE BIBLE,,

I GOT TO A POINT I AM WORSHIPPED ,,i just went to a gym 2 day ago ,,and in that gym they were talking about gh15 infront of my damn eyes ,,i was doing chin ups when on the back 2 fellas were discussing gh15 hormone protocols,,

now this! is glory

when you got that famos from internet this is big,,and for a reason ,, i didnt lie to them or sold them balonie,,i gave them what they wanted,,

THE TRUTH!

gh15 approved
Who cares about friends? We're not friends and will never be.. I don't like you ,and you know this.... Second,you're not famous,and who cares about going to the gym and being made fun of? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard!!   Being in the gym is 1 maybe 2 hrs.of a persons day..What kind of idiot hates going to the gym because he isn't the biggest guy there? @ guys talking about you,and now you're a star? I've been here a very long time,and you have not given 1 piece of useful information ,when it comes to busting your  ass in the gym.. Everything is drugs,cheating and shortcuts..!  


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: BustinAss on June 06, 2011, 01:45:21 PM
McDonald and Cigarettes are legal,steroids are not..

My point indeed.

We should not look as to what something is, but WHY it is that way.

If you could give me a good reason as to why steroids are illegal and bad food and cigarettes are not?

I have not found a single person being able to give valid response and usually fall back to 'steroids are illegal because experts say so, who are we to interfere'. This is not a valid or logic response especially in light of all the information known about substances involved. It is not super-nova quantum mechanics where most people wander in the dark and have to rely on specialists.

Hopefully we can all agree that if one has to make a choice and take 20IU GH everyday or smoke 2 packs a day, he would, based on all evidence, choose to take GH with eyes closed.

And because youngsters are little slow with these things we should be open and talk about them and compare them with other things they allready know like bad food, no manners, cigarettes and alcohol.

The fact that smoking is permitted and using test is not, has no validity in any discussion or real life consequences.

Only validity is how things really are and not how fellow humans present them to be.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Jaime on June 06, 2011, 01:47:29 PM
 GH15 is a troll and a retard. Everything that he has to say is refuted by the fact that the basic idea that all of his other ideas revolve, that pro bodybuilders look the way they do because of drugs and only drugs, is prima fasce wrong because there are thousands of bodybuilders in the World that take the exact same drugs as the pros in exact the same dosages and they do not look like the pros. Case closed. GH15 is a snake oil salesman who sells the idea to envious individuals that they aren't as big and ripped as pros only because of drugs, and that they would be if they only took as much drugs. It makes a lot of failed bodybuilders feel good about themselves and makes him popular in the boards, but it is a lie, and many people could get seriously sick or even die for following his advice.

   Do you want some kid to die of insulin shock or remain brain damaged for life because they listened to GH15? Do you want some kid to have a stroke or need a new kidney in less than 6 months for taking trenbolone in the ridiculous amounts that GH15 recommends? Do you want some kid to have to undergo painful surgery to remove part of his intestines that have grown too large to fit the body because he listened to GH15? Ban this troll. He abuses the board's bandwidth by starting multiple threads a day, every day, day after day.

  Starting a thread is a big deal. Most posters do not start threads at all, and some post here for years without starting a thread. Starting a thread means taking the board's bandwidth and is a very big deal. I am a veteran poster and I start a few threads a year at the most. GH15 starts several threads every day, day after day after day, for 5 years now. Make this bitch stop, please.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Holy fucking shit i agree with you.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Big Worm on June 06, 2011, 01:47:44 PM
My point indeed.

We should not look as to what something is, but WHY it is that way.

If you could give me a good reason as to why steroids are illegal and bad food and cigarettes are not?

Hopefully we can all agree that if one has to make a choice and take 20IU GH everyday or smoke 2 packs a day, he would based on all evidence he would choose to take GH with eyes closed.

And because youngsters are little slow with these things we should be open and talk about them and compare them with other things they allready know like bad food, no manners, cigarettes and alcohol.

The fact that smoking is permitted and using test is not, has no validity in any discussion or real life consequences.

Only validity is how things really are and not how fellow humans present them to be.
You can't live without food(good or bad)..You can live your whole life without steroids,and not need it for anything..


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 06, 2011, 01:49:04 PM
There are laws governing the internet, and they are changing with the trend moving towards responsibility and liability.  Instructing people towards illegal behavior and death is an undertaking that should be reconsidered carefully by all parties.

L Reeves
Santa MonicaN CA

And there things like "freedom of speech" regarding GH and "personal responsibility" regarding his readers/pupils.
Stop being a naive moron trying to censor things you don't like, it's simply pathetic.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on June 06, 2011, 01:52:36 PM
"Pupils"?  You really are a horse's ass.

L Reeves
Santa Monica, CA


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Jaime on June 06, 2011, 01:55:39 PM
GH15 is probably the longest running gimmick on here.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 06, 2011, 01:55:46 PM
"Pupils"?  You really are a horse's ass.

L Reeves
Santa Monica, CA

Hey, it wasn't me who came with that term and btw, I only read his stuff.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: maxer on June 06, 2011, 01:55:53 PM
peeps complaining about gh15 speaking truths would rather remain ignorant....

then dont read his threads! go watch fox news and take your antidepressants you tools


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: BustinAss on June 06, 2011, 01:56:45 PM
You can't live without food(good or bad)..You can live your whole life without steroids,and not need it for anything..

Not a valid argument to make steroids illegal, but a valid argument to make bad food illegal as it is a necessity and what people must have should be good for them as they have no choice whether to buy it or not. Extra things people dont need can possibly be bad but it is their own choice. Food is not a choice and therefore it should be good. Why is unhealthy food not banned then?

Gambling, women, cars, dogs, alcohol, cigarettes etc all form small or big dangers in our lives and we certainly can live without them.

Why are these things not banned?

The reason that something is banned must come from its qualities to endanger people. 500k people die from cigarettes yearly in USA alone and we certainly can live without smoking, why is smoking not banned is the question?

There is no proof that steroids are more bad then cigarettes, yet steroids are banned and people smoke freely, why is the question?



Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on June 06, 2011, 01:57:31 PM
My god ! What a retarded thread ! Last I checked, Gh15 gave advice to those who ASKED for it ! " Pm answered " means just that, suckmymuscle ! He's not writing to himself ! I'd rather read 1000 threads started by Gh15 then 3 threads started by Stark and / or Decide ! Gh15 ISN'T forcing ANYONE to stick a needle in their ass ! Is he ? I don't think so ! He's only showin' HIS way to get to the top echelon of bb'ing. Here's some advice for some of you :


If you don't like what someone has to say ( in this case, Gh15 ) then, BY GOD, DON'T READ IT !!! IGNORE IT !! MY GOD, WHAT AN AMAZING CONCEPT !!

You lousy fucks are losin' sleep over somethin' so miniscule ! Lololol !!! This is the internet ! Heellloooooo !!! If some kid sticks himself with 20 iu's of insulin and goes into a diabetic coma we're goin' to blame Gh15 ???? Uhhhhhhh .... ok ! Why not blame the asshole who MADE THE DECISION to do it ??? Nah ... let's just blame some anon. poster on a forum ! You guys are pathetic ! Get a life !


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Noel Fuller on June 06, 2011, 01:58:56 PM
My biggest problem with him is he's so bitter and his info is wrong alot of the time, he uses the same steroid protocols with everyone and the real world is not like that.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: tbombz on June 06, 2011, 01:59:53 PM
My biggest problem with him is he's so bitter and his info is wrong alot of the time, he uses the same steroid protocols with everyone and the real world is not like that.
   ::)


one time where you think gh15 has been wrong


 :D


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: dustin on June 06, 2011, 02:00:57 PM
My biggest problem with him is he's so bitter and his info is wrong alot of the time, he uses the same steroid protocols with everyone and the real world is not like that.

You mad because he gives away advice for free, bro? ;)

Think of it this way, at least he's not supplying your clients. You can still rob them and mutate your female clients into full blown trannies all day long. Don't sweat it.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: OTHstrong on June 06, 2011, 02:02:19 PM
First of all if you're young, naive and gets discouraged over the reality of bodybuilding you shouldn't be posting on getbig

second....People in the past would go through extreme measures to find the truth out about hormones and most of the time the hard way, so I think people are benefitting on the "get to the point" information GH15 offers

Third GH15 discourages all recreational drugs...makes fun of people who use recreational drugs and if you think this doesn't have an impact on his "followers"( for lack of a better term) then you're dumb

Fourth.....He is good entertainment for people like me, especially when he gets a rise out of the ones who think some top of the food chain athletes ( a handful out of 7 000 000 000) are natural..kind of reminds me of when I made a kid cry when I told him there was no Santa in grade 2

You don't like him, don't read his post..simple


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Big Worm on June 06, 2011, 02:02:39 PM
Not a valid argument to make steroids illegal, but a valid argument to make bad food illegal as it is a necessity and what people must have should be good for them as they have no choice whether to buy it or not. Extra things people dont need can possibly be bad but it is their own choice. Food is not a choice and therefore it should be good. Why is unhealthy food not banned then?

Gambling, women, cars, dogs, alcohol, cigarettes etc all form small or big dangers in our lives and we certainly can live without them.

Why are these things not banned?

The reason that something is banned must come from its qualities to endanger people. 500k people die from cigarettes yearly in USA alone and we certainly can live without smoking, why is smoking not banned is the question?

There is no proof that steroids are more bad then cigarettes, yet steroids are banned and people smoke freely, why is the question?


Cigarettes should absolutely be banned,as well as alcohol.. But they are not... So what do I care? Can't answer why they are legal,that's a question for the higher ups..


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: noc on June 06, 2011, 02:03:18 PM
My biggest problem with him is he's so bitter and his info is wrong alot of the time, he uses the same steroid protocols with everyone and the real world is not like that.

Luckily no one gives a fuck what you think 'Noel'.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on June 06, 2011, 02:03:55 PM
You mad because he gives away advice for free, bro? ;)

Think of it this way, at least he's not supplying your clients. You can still rob them and mutate your female clients into full blown trannies all day long. Don't sweat it.



OUCH !! LOLOLOLOL !!! A lot of truth in this post ! Gh15's drivin' away Noel's business ! Lol !


Btw, Dustin, I sent ya a pm. :)


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2011, 02:04:46 PM
I don't want him gone. I want him on here so he can continue to make a complete ass of himself. I just sent an email to Ron requesting an interview to expose the people and gh15 to prove they have no clue what they or he says. I want to compare old school bodybuilding to these new school bodybuilding children who think they know it all. Yes, want to publically call people out and settle the bullshit on here.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on June 06, 2011, 02:06:57 PM
gh15 tells people they shouldn't lift weights if they don't take illegal, dangerous drugs.  He needs to be removed.

L Reeves
Santa Monica, CA


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 06, 2011, 02:07:12 PM
My biggest problem with him is he's so bitter and his info is wrong alot of the time, he uses the same steroid protocols with everyone and the real world is not like that.

Apart from whether you agree with him or no, he's HONEST about things. I prefer his bitterness over positive hypocrites like you.
If you are an expert than start a DISCUSSION in stead of telling he's wrong. That would be a much better contributing than posting silly tranny pics without permission.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Big Worm on June 06, 2011, 02:10:01 PM
Luckily no one gives a fuck what you think 'Noel'.
LOL.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Jaime on June 06, 2011, 02:10:13 PM
Apart from whether you agree with him or no, he's HONEST about things. I prefer his bitterness over positive hypocrites like you.
If you are an expert than start a DISCUSSION in stead of telling he's wrong. That would be a much better contributing than posting silly tranny pics without permission.


He is honest? Post a pic of your grandma, he will claim she has been eating monkey cadaver brains and handfulls of dianabol for the last 40 years.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 06, 2011, 02:11:28 PM
gh15 tells people they shouldn't lift weights if they don't take illegal, dangerous drugs.  He needs to be removed.

L Reeves
Santa Monica, CA

Stop spreading LIES about him, Liar Reeves


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: maxer on June 06, 2011, 02:12:04 PM
gh15 tells people they shouldn't lift weights if they don't take illegal, dangerous drugs.  He needs to be removed.

L Reeves
Santa Monica, CA

gh15 contributes. You cant quote or site sources to back up your misinformation.... What makes you so qualified to speak for others?

I call for removal of L Reve Santa Monica!  :D


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: OTHstrong on June 06, 2011, 02:12:50 PM
My biggest problem with him is he's so bitter and his info is wrong alot of the time, he uses the same steroid protocols with everyone and the real world is not like that.
You may be right that not everybody uses the same protocol...but answere me this if you dare.....THE PROTOCOLS GIVAN BY GH15 ARE THE FASTEST WAY FROM POINT A TO B ON AVERAGE. if you disagree please explain why and no I am not one to make fun of or resort to negativetry infact good job on that girls physique in the other thread, but I think answereing this quetion will be a challange for you because you know deep inside that GH15 protocols are highly effective.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 06, 2011, 02:14:10 PM

He is honest? Post a pic of your grandma, he will claim she has been eating monkey cadaver brains and handfulls of dianabol for the last 40 years.

LOL, do I need to explain the difference between an honest opinion and being correct?  ::)


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 06, 2011, 02:16:09 PM
you need to retake basic logic friend

  Let me ask you a honest question: Do you have any idea of what you are talking about even 10% of the time? That post of yours on dark matter didn't contain even a single correct or even intelligible statement made by you. You criticizing me for faulty logic is just precious. It really is. I don't even have the words to respond to this.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 06, 2011, 02:16:54 PM
Liar. You've bragged openly about being a major distributor, and so major, in fact, that you noted that you don't even consider orders of under $1,000 because it wasn't worth your time or effort.  ::)

ouch that's gonna leave a mark.  ;D


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: tbombz on June 06, 2011, 02:18:38 PM
 Let me ask you a honest question: Do you have any idea of what you are talking about even 10% of the time? That post of yours on dark matter didn't contain even a single correct or even intelligible statement made by you. You criticizing me for faulty logic is just precious. It really is. I don't even have the words to respond to this.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

A is a B because of is association with C

does not mean that D, if associated with C, will become B.


sorry you cant understand simple logic


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Jaime on June 06, 2011, 02:19:40 PM
LOL, do I need to explain the difference between an honest opinion and being correct?  ::)


Problem being that it isn't an honest opinion.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: no one on June 06, 2011, 02:22:01 PM
i'd like to make a motion that anyone with less than 100 posts needs to shut the fuck up and not be allowed to start gay threads or ask for the 'banning' of other members.

if you dont like it here, nancy, kindly fuck off. gh15 has been here a long time and will be long after you leave.

gh15 is one of the few members here thats makes this place interesting- in a good way, unlike that fat fag alex23 that you just cant help watching mentally unravel day by day.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 06, 2011, 02:23:50 PM
A is a B because of is association with C

does not mean that D, if associated with C, will become B.


sorry you cant understand simple logic

  Invalid critique. There were no syllogisms in my post at all. Here is the deal. Why don't you take a few minutes and expose me for my faulty logic, then? Go ahead. Just go at it and I will embarass you just like you were embarassed in the dark matter thread... :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: backday on June 06, 2011, 02:24:12 PM
Laiar. You've bragged openly about being a major distributor, and so major, in fact, that you noted that you don't even consider orders of under $1,000 because it wasn't worth your time or effort.  ::)
;D ;D


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: OTHstrong on June 06, 2011, 02:25:34 PM
gh15 tells people they shouldn't lift weights if they don't take illegal, dangerous drugs.  He needs to be removed.

L Reeves
Santa Monica, CA
Bro seriously, your acting like we are living in a perfect world, the daily corruption that goes around the globe is outrages....war, hatred, crime, poverty... this is where the real fight is at not some internet dude giving mature adults advice about bodybuilding...everybody knows that the harms steroids cause is propaganda... I guy on this site that I know got some advise about insulin from gh15 and if he hadn't he probably would have problem cause he was misusing it, so his advice does the opposite of what you claim.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 06, 2011, 02:26:18 PM

Problem being that it isn't an honest opinion.

Oh, than shine some light on it


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 02:26:23 PM
I don't want him gone. I want him on here so he can continue to make a complete ass of himself. I just sent an email to Ron requesting an interview to expose the people and gh15 to prove they have no clue what they or he says. I want to compare old school bodybuilding to these new school bodybuilding children who think they know it all. Yes, want to publically call people out and settle the bullshit on here.

twister,, nothing you can do at your age can cover for your sins ,,you robbed thoe children from their innocence,,you are one of many ,,you are a liar!,,show here picture from you at age 16 17 ,,show it!! bring it you filth,,show them picture from ages 17 -18 ,,,why dont you ?? lets see what you were,,

ofcourse you wont because you were a louzy shit ass skinny or fat but SMALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL,,not muscular anything ,,smalllll

5'6 is little little fella,,they dont go around no 190 200 conditioned,,what the fuck are you talking about??

is this account is gimick or is this fella a real person??i dont kow what to think anymore about twister i swear

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 06, 2011, 02:26:47 PM
you need to retake basic logic friend

irony alert  ::)


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: apply85 on June 06, 2011, 02:27:31 PM
It's so strange that it takes people a long time to get on the gh15 bandwagon. I read maybe 20 posts by him before it was obvious to me what is going on. And it took me a couple of wikipedia searches to realize exactly who he is. I question the sanity of anyone who reads this board daily and insists he's not who he obviously is. It makes me think that the people who may actually run into the real GH15 deny who he is on this board so that they are less nervous when they talk to him.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: tbombz on June 06, 2011, 02:29:03 PM
 Invalid critique. There were no syllogisms in my post at all. Here is the deal. Why don't you take a few minutes and expose me for my faulty logic, then? Go ahead. Just go at it and I will embarass you just like you were embarassed in the dark matter thread... :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE

suck my muscle= gh15 is wrong about steroids making pros because some guys take steroids and look nothing like the pros

suck my muscle = gh15 is wrong because if A makes B into C, then A would also make D into a C, but since D is not a C and it does have A, then A is not what made B into C


^^ and thats wrong


just beause a variable doesnt universally cause the same changes,doesnt mean it isnt responsible for certain changes.




Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 06, 2011, 02:29:53 PM
irony alert 

  Has this guy ever said anything factual, intelligible or logically consistent even a single time? The balls of this guy to say I fail at logic. LOL!!!!

SCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 02:31:05 PM
You may be right that not everybody uses the same protocol...but answere me this if you dare.....THE PROTOCOLS GIVAN BY GH15 ARE THE FASTEST WAY FROM POINT A TO B ON AVERAGE. if you disagree please explain why and no I am not one to make fun of or resort to negativetry infact good job on that girls physique in the other thread, but I think answereing this quetion will be a challange for you because you know deep inside that GH15 protocols are highly effective.

lol ,,we all use the same exact shit,,thats why we all look the damn same ,,we just lie and lie and lie,,they aqll convicts,,i just opened it up for discussion ,,the diff between profesional and none profesional is STARTING HORMONES YOUNGER,,STICKING TO LEGIT HORMONES BY LUCK OR BY CONNECTION ,,AND OFCOURSE THE RESPOND TO HORMONES WHICH WITH MOST HUMAN BEING IS GOOD ENOUGH TO CLIMB THE RANKS IF CONSISTANT ,,

the diff is we go to extreme and the average fella do not,,we can sustain the doses and the average fella do not and in most times afraid,,and ofcourse most fellas get bunk balonie,,im so feared now day that a source that send my elfs bunk shit know its his end,,there is no ifs and  buts,,and my elfs ARE NOT ME,,they are competetive bodybuilde,,but everyone know you send my elf bunk you are done sourcing,,see what happen to rouge...good example


and my elfs are my elfs but all my pupils are my elfs in a way ,,i can nto make sure they all get legit but i can def make sure they ahve all the knowledge they need inorder to get legit hormones

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Vince B on June 06, 2011, 02:32:04 PM
Intelligent, educated and informed individuals always ask what the test of truth is regarding statements, theories, and facts. gh16 makes all manner of claims about drugs used to build larger muscles. How does anyone go about assessing whether the information is sensible, true and worth following? The bottom line is gh15 sets himself up as the test of truth and this is totally unacceptable.

It may be a fact that the pros use heaps of substances to get and stay big. There is no evidence that doing so is healthy or even sane. I regret the day that anabolic steroids were used by bodybuilders. It started out with Dianabol then Deca Durabolin. Look at the drugs gh15 claims are used by the top guys.....and women. It is total insanity and they are going to be sorry later and maybe sooner. It is not healthy to take large amounts of hormones. To follow the advice of so-called internet gurus is to abandon any good sense you might have.

By the way, there are no junk foods. There are only junk diets. Please stop confusing the two. Hamburgers are definitely not junk food. People really are misinformed about nutition. Please read textbooks written for graduate students in nutrition as your source for infomation and not what 'experts' on the internet or media tell you.

If we would not encourage our children to be bodybuilders then the sport has died an ignoble death. I sure wouldn't recommend using these substances and no one else should either. The reason steroids became illegal in some countries is because doctors cannot prescribe dangerous and powerful drugs to people who are not sick. It is also against medical ethics to prescribe drugs used with animals for human consumption.

There is virtually no scientific literature on the drug protocols suggested by gh15 and for good reason. Those protocols and substances would not pass ethics committees at universities so such research cannot be done there. The current situation is surely one of the blind leading the blind and foolish.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Jaime on June 06, 2011, 02:37:47 PM
She does.  I've visited DP's grandmas house.


You giving her the daily test dosage BDB?


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 06, 2011, 02:38:23 PM
suck my muscle= gh15 is wrong about steroids making pros because some guys take steroids and look nothing like the pros

suck my muscle = gh15 is wrong because if A makes B into C, then A would also make D into a C, but since D is not a C and it does have A, then A is not what made B into C


^^ and thats wrong


just beause a variable doesnt universally cause the same changes,doesnt mean it isnt responsible for certain changes.




  Yawn...is this the best you can do? GH15 is wrong about drugs being all it takes to look like a pro because otherwise all people who take the same drugs in the same doses that the pros take would look like the pros. Here is how the logical deduction goes:

  1. Statement: Pro bodybuilders look the way they do because of certain drugs taken in certain doses and only because of this...

  2. Caveat: Since this is all it takes to look like a pro, ergo, everyone who takes these drugs in these or higher doses should look like the pros.

  3. Fact: There are people who take the same drugs in the same doses as the pros and do not look like the pros.

  4. Contradiction: Since these people do not look like the pros, ergo, drugs cannot be the only factor involved in looking like a pro.

  5. Conclusion: Drugs cannot possibly be the only factor responsible for the pros looking like they do otherwise all people who use the same drugs in the same doses would look like him.

  6. Conclusion II: You are owned.

  7. Conclusion III: You are a moron.

  Thanks for playing.... :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: supernick on June 06, 2011, 02:40:47 PM
I vote to keep GH 15  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8)


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2011, 02:40:50 PM
Again gh15 prove it. You can't. You're full of shit and I'm going to call you out personally, so keep hiding little man.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: OTHstrong on June 06, 2011, 02:42:09 PM
It's so strange that it takes people a long time to get on the gh15 bandwagon. I read maybe 20 posts by him before it was obvious to me what is going on. And it took me a couple of wikipedia searches to realize exactly who he is. I question the sanity of anyone who reads this board daily and insists he's not who he obviously is. It makes me think that the people who may actually run into the real GH15 deny who he is on this board so that they are less nervous when they talk to him.
I actually am not surprised cause most who disagree never have walked the walk, once you've been down that road.... eating chicken breast and broccoli, popping caffeine and ephedrine like its going out of style, hitting the gym like a madman, squatting and deadlifting 5-6 plates per side, using a the 150', cardio, downing pills and injecting every friggen day, insomnia, starving, cranky, miserable, squeezing every last drop of life right before you step on stage thinking, "no way did anyone work harder or did it better only to find out that a few more went even more hardcore then you" only then can you appreciate the value of what gh15 posts....if you haven't been there then you just won't understand, no matter what


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Schmoff on June 06, 2011, 02:43:11 PM
Intelligent, educated and informed individuals always ask what the test of truth is regarding statements, theories, and facts. gh16 makes all manner of claims about drugs used to build larger muscles. How does anyone go about assessing whether the information is sensible, true and worth following? The bottom line is gh15 sets himself up as the test of truth and this is totally unacceptable.

It may be a fact that the pros use heaps of substances to get and stay big. There is no evidence that doing so is healthy or even sane. I regret the day that anabolic steroids were used by bodybuilders. It started out with Dianabol then Deca Durabolin. Look at the drugs gh15 claims are used by the top guys.....and women. It is total insanity and they are going to be sorry later and maybe sooner. It is not healthy to take large amounts of hormones. To follow the advice of so-called internet gurus is to abandon any good sense you might have.

By the way, there are no junk foods. There are only junk diets. Please stop confusing the two. Hamburgers are definitely not junk food. People really are misinformed about nutition. Please read textbooks written for graduate students in nutrition as your source for infomation and not what 'experts' on the internet or media tell you.

If we would not encourage our children to be bodybuilders then the sport has died an ignoble death. I sure wouldn't recommend using these substances and no one else should either. The reason steroids became illegal in some countries is because doctors cannot prescribe dangerous and powerful drugs to people who are not sick. It is also against medical ethics to prescribe drugs used with animals for human consumption.

There is virtually no scientific literature on the drug protocols suggested by gh15 and for good reason. Those protocols and substances would not pass ethics committees at universities so such research cannot be done there. The current situation is surely one of the blind leading the blind and foolish.

 :D :D


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: EZ$ on June 06, 2011, 02:44:13 PM
It's so strange that it takes people a long time to get on the gh15 bandwagon. I read maybe 20 posts by him before it was obvious to me what is going on. And it took me a couple of wikipedia searches to realize exactly who he is. I question the sanity of anyone who reads this board daily and insists he's not who he obviously is. It makes me think that the people who may actually run into the real GH15 deny who he is on this board so that they are less nervous when they talk to him.
fill us in bro.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: tbombz on June 06, 2011, 02:45:54 PM
 Yawn...is this the best you can do? GH15 is wrong about drugs being all it takes to look like a pro because otherwise all people who take the same drugs in the same doses that the pros take would look like the pros. Here is how the logical deduction goes:

   1. Statement: Pro bodybuilders look the way they do because of certain drugs taken in certain doses and only because of this...

 2. Caveat: Since this is all it takes to look like a pro, ergo, everyone who takes these drugs in these or higher doses should look like the pros.


  3. Fact: There are people who take the same drugs in the same doses as the pros and do not look like the pros.

  4. Contradiction: Since these people do not look like the pros, ergo, drugs cannot be the only factor involved in looking like a pro.

  5. Conclusion: Drugs cannot possibly be the only factor responsible for the pros looking like they do otherwise all people who use the same drugs in the same doses would look like him.

  6. Conclusion II: You are owned.

  7. Conclusion III: You are a moron.

  Thanks for playing.... :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE


the bolded is incorrect. maybe thats why ur confused.




Title: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on June 06, 2011, 02:51:04 PM
Mr Avidan:
Although I value the opinions and input of others, what you have in gh15 is an individual who promotes and instructs heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  He disparages anyone with a physique who will not admit to this style of drug use.  He calls anyone who weighs 200 lbs with abs a "liar" if they deny drug use.  gh15 is a one trick pony whose time has come and gone.  Bodybuilding is a hobby and lifestyle which gh15 discourages unless it includes heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  Mr. Avidan, as administrator of this board you have a moral responibilty to ensure the safety of it's readers.  Some of the readers are impressionable kids.  Take out the trash Mr. Avidan.

L. Reeves
Santa Monica, CA 



Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Dokey111 on June 06, 2011, 02:52:16 PM
agree.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: tommywishbone on June 06, 2011, 02:52:44 PM
what happned to the first thread??


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on June 06, 2011, 02:52:47 PM
in before this goes 20 pages


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 06, 2011, 02:53:27 PM

the bolded is incorrect. maybe thats why ur confused.




  MORON, that is GH15's statement. He said that all it takes to look like a pro are certain drugs in certain doses, and that as long as you take them in these doses, anyone will look like a pro. Since there are people who take these drugs in these doses who do not look like pros, ergo, drugs are not all it takes to look like a pro. That is a logic contradiction, dumbass. This is the kind of very, very simple deductive logic that a 7 year-old child is capable of, but somehow this escapes you.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: mesmorph78 on June 06, 2011, 02:55:25 PM
wasnt this thread removed...?
amazing how gh15 is allowed to hound and harrass and slander people who actually contribute to these forums... also allowed to turn the G&O forum into a steroid and drugs board... but when a thread is made directly about him its removed...
this guy should have been leaned on years ago... but nothing lasts forever.... just like all previous gimmicks his day will come


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 02:56:13 PM
Again gh15 prove it. You can't. You're full of shit and I'm going to call you out personally, so keep hiding little man.

you are sick in the head,,seriously you are,,you can jsut see why your marriages didnt work ,,YOU are the problem,,you are a filth and a liar,,no video can fix this,,you are what this cult do not need,, and i outted you and noel and all the money scambags who make money out of the dreams of those kidos,,you will never be able to abuse them again ,,NEVER EVER

gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Aerian on June 06, 2011, 02:59:49 PM
Fuk all that noise. 


I say let him stay.  He provides a good amount of entertainment and that is why most of us come here.




Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2011, 03:01:43 PM
Again turd, one has nothing to do with the other. Did you ride the short donkey to school?


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: TRIX on June 06, 2011, 03:02:15 PM
he is pretty funny, but he posts the ex act same thing everyday (hgh, insulin, tren)

and you cant be 180 lbs with abs without drugs (according to him)

:D



Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 03:03:09 PM
i woudl love to continue this denbate but i have to do the truth right now,,and the truth is as follow,,

i have to go get a syrnge....fill it up with sustanona and nandrolona 3 cc... and stick it into my right butt cheeck

then i need to take this surnge put iin it 3 cc of trenbolona ace and equipona,,and stick it into right butt check

yes we do it every day or every 2 days,,

now since i already put 5 iu of gh in my delt an hour ago...then this is not needed,,

but since i need to do the first 2 sentences i wrote...and it take time so do it right brecause it is 3 cc each butt cheeck after all and i want it to sit there comfortably since i do it every couple days...ill have to say bye bye for now and come back later on ,,

see this is the truth ,,i tell you here life of bodybuild,,we do it on the road,,and we do it on prep ,,and we do it big time off season ....and we really dont have offseason ...it just doses changes a bit,,


everyone knows im right,,yet every convict of this cult choses to lie,,for the same reason they lie about other things,,for the same reason they beat up their wife,,for the same reason they lie about eating so much calories,,for the same reason they lie about achivments in life,,for the same reason they lie about having sex with their girlfriends frienst,,for the same reason they lie about anything

pathological liars,,narcsistic ,,and in most cases delusionals


gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Deicide on June 06, 2011, 03:03:26 PM
he is pretty funny, but he posts the ex act same thing everyday (hgh, insulin, tren)

and you cant be 180 lbs with abs without drugs (according to him)

:D



No, he didn't say that; height factors in as well.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 03:05:21 PM
Again turd, one has nothing to do with the other. Did you ride the short donkey to school?

no i road the TRUTH BUSS to school,,the one you were not on ,,you were on the buss to the gym with the other filthy liars ...few of them died since then from over dose vicodin ,,,few died from diuretic complcations,,few lost kidnys from overdoses on diuretics for long periods of time,,and few of them became trainers of the mma balonie so called sport which is not even a sport and just generation nothingness way of looking cook and contributing into violent society ,,

you do nothing but sit on your ass all day long and lie! go retire already ,,i need to inject


gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: George Whorewell on June 06, 2011, 03:12:59 PM
 ::)



Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on June 06, 2011, 03:17:55 PM
Instead of banning him, just find out who he really is. Guarantee he'll stop posting then.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Jaime on June 06, 2011, 03:18:21 PM
No to the jew protection racket going on here.

Gh15 should stay but only on the basis that he shuts the fuck up about natural training and stops stalking people.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: bike nut on June 06, 2011, 03:20:39 PM
Mr Avidan:
Although I value the opinions and input of others, what you have in gh15 is an individual who promotes and instructs heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  He disparages anyone with a physique who will not admit to this style of drug use.  He calls anyone who weighs 200 lbs with abs a "liar" if they deny drug use.  gh15 is a one trick pony whose time has come and gone.  Bodybuilding is a hobby and lifestyle which gh15 discourages unless it includes heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  Mr. Avidan, as administrator of this board you have a moral responibilty to ensure the safety of it's readers.  Some of the readers are impressionable kids.  Take out the trash Mr. Avidan.

L. Reeves
Santa Monica, CA 


gh15 keeping the bodybuilding "gurus" honest one 30 page thread at a time.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: newmom on June 06, 2011, 03:22:24 PM
::)



Hello dingbat..

He contributes more than a lot of people. My vote is for gh15 to stay


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on June 06, 2011, 03:22:27 PM
I guarantee the creep behind the gh15 facade looks like a whipped up bag of donkey doo-doo.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Schmoff on June 06, 2011, 03:26:31 PM
Instead of banning him, just find out who he really is. Guarantee he'll stop posting then.



Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on June 06, 2011, 03:28:59 PM

Not that I advocate banning him.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Bix on June 06, 2011, 03:30:24 PM
Let him stay, boot all the fags out.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Game Time on June 06, 2011, 03:38:19 PM
Fuck that. GH15 is here to stay, he makes the board at this point.

The guy is a novelty and has a ton of knowledge. Whether you want to hear that knowledge is up to you, the truth hurts bud.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 03:43:03 PM
he is pretty funny, but he posts the ex act same thing everyday (hgh, insulin, tren)

and you cant be 180 lbs with abs without drugs (according to him)

:D



ok ,,now that im done with injects,, i can go on with responds

180lb can have abs ,,even at 5'9 ...but it wont be no 6% naturally at 5'9 ! ,,this is what gh15 is saying,,you can be 10% and have abs ...naturaly at 182.5 lb thats correct ,,will you be competetive ? hell fuckn no

gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 03:45:03 PM
I guarantee the creep behind the gh15 facade looks like a whipped up bag of donkey doo-doo.

i garentee you that fella is FEARED ,,and i mean it FEARED ,,and has utmost respect of the ones who need to know who they are,,not the lower level moderators but the ones who in the know,,

i garentee you that the ones in the know are of big approval of gh15!

gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on June 06, 2011, 03:47:36 PM
Learn how to spell, dipshit.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 03:48:58 PM
No to the jew protection racket going on here.

Gh15 should stay but only on the basis that he shuts the fuck up about natural training and stops stalking people.

wait wait,,you tell if gh15 shoulld stay or not? kneel befoe me you peason lol thats a new one lol ,,dont you see for 6 years+ this is going ,,do you know how many pupils and followers gh15 brought to this site,,do know the offers of financial benefit to write for other boardings gh15 got? directly from the muscular develop head! yes yes the HEAD,,for money! i did not agree i said i want ron heris and mike arnodeld removed and then we will see,,they could nto fulfill it because ron heris write their balonie ,,so i declined,,

there are many things you dont know,,


gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gatorr on June 06, 2011, 03:54:47 PM
GH 15 stays. Hey lex are you one of those natural guys that look like shit and hate the truth GH 15 writes what you have to do to look like a bodybuilder? Go f**k yourself.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on June 06, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Quiet, son, you're proving your parents to be failures.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Deicide on June 06, 2011, 03:59:10 PM
This is clearly a case of generation nothingness.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 06, 2011, 04:03:44 PM
  Bodybuilder is owning GH into oblivion. It is time for heroes to step up and take down the villan. I am tired of this putrid drug addicted c.u.n.t tarnishing the sport I love. How sad a Human must be to dedicate all their lives to injecting drugs like a junkie. GH15: bum with no physical/moral/intellectual output who leeches off Society and is a junkie who spends all his waking time piercing needles into his body. So sad for a Human Being to dedicate all his life to procurring, acquiring and using drugs. Such a worthless waste of Oxygen.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: bike nut on June 06, 2011, 04:08:30 PM
Friday is date night for me, and tonight I'm taking out an 18 year old Puerto Rican waitress who's been flirting with me.  First I'll head over to the YMCA and perform a full body workout of bench press, squat, chins, military presses, barbell curls, French curls, and 500 sit-ups on the slant board.  Then I'm taking this hot little tamale to Olive Garden and we'll see where things go.

Well, well aren't you just the man about town.

 ::)   


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 04:11:00 PM
 Bodybuilder is owning GH into oblivion. It is time for heroes to step up and take down the villan. I am tired of this putrid drug addicted c.u.n.t tarnishing the sport I love. How sad a Human must be to dedicate all their lives to injecting drugs like a junkie. GH15: bum with no physical/moral/intellectual output who leeches off Society and is a junkie who spends all his waking time piercing needles into his body. So sad for a Human Being to dedicate all his life to procurring, acquiring and using drugs. Such a worthless waste of Oxygen.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

let me tell you something friend,,

even if there is a loser bodybuild who inject all day long and get no where and is sitting in some local show...which there woudnt be if there was no filths like the dantas and getny who sell that fella balonie,,but even if there is that kind of loser...

he is stil better than

delusions of being

1. lutentnt
2. math expert ...1 inch = 1 cm ...  : )
3. chimp money dna expert
4. someone who think that preofesional is matter of genetic lol with fellas like lee apperson being a pro lol ,,or many others to count from shari kamali to the ken whatever his name is  lol

gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on June 06, 2011, 04:13:01 PM
Sensless dribble.  Get off the forum.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Deicide on June 06, 2011, 04:13:40 PM
Sensless dribble.  Get off the forum.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: TrueGrit on June 06, 2011, 04:25:04 PM
If he bothers you, don't read his posts. I never, ever read his posts. This isn't because I have an issue with the guy, I just don't have any interest in AAS or trying to decipher the difficult and repetitive prose he uses.



He is like the Bay of steroids -

GB guy: Bay, is this guy gay?

Bay : Of course (who isn't?)


GB guy: GH15 is he on steroids?

GH15: Yes,,,(everbody on steroid)


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Theoak* on June 06, 2011, 04:31:28 PM
Here to stay, not only are his posts spot on and informative just love how he makes clowns like suckmymuscle, mesomorph etc meltdown everysingle post he makes. They get owned on a daily basis.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on June 06, 2011, 04:32:26 PM
If he bothers you, don't read his posts. I never, ever read his posts. This isn't because I have an issue with the guy, I just don't have any interest in AAS or trying to decipher the difficult and repetitive prose he uses.



He is like the Bay of steroids -

GB guy: Bay, is this guy gay?

Bay : Of course (who isn't?)


GB guy: GH15 is he on steroids?

GH15: Yes,,,(everbody on steroid)

lmao,,,,hahahha


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on June 06, 2011, 04:54:07 PM
Sensless dribble.  Get off the forum.


I wish you would. Your an annoying sum bitch. " Sensless dribble " ? I think not. SENSEless ( this is the correct spelling, moron ) thread is more like it. Now go run along " Bodybuilder " Liar Reeves.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: The Ugly on June 06, 2011, 04:57:39 PM
kneel befoe me you peason

Peason?


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: slacker on June 06, 2011, 05:10:44 PM
agree.
x2


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: asbrus on June 06, 2011, 05:22:37 PM
Mr Avidan:
Although I value the opinions and input of others, what you have in gh15 is an individual who promotes and instructs heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  He disparages anyone with a physique who will not admit to this style of drug use.  He calls anyone who weighs 200 lbs with abs a "liar" if they deny drug use.  gh15 is a one trick pony whose time has come and gone.  Bodybuilding is a hobby and lifestyle which gh15 discourages unless it includes heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  Mr. Avidan, as administrator of this board you have a moral responibilty to ensure the safety of it's readers.  Some of the readers are impressionable kids.  Take out the trash Mr. Avidan.

L. Reeves
Santa Monica, CA 



C00L ST0RY


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: wes on June 06, 2011, 05:24:53 PM
 ::)


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Alexander D on June 06, 2011, 05:26:17 PM
In before this thread hits 20 pages  ;D


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: The Ugly on June 06, 2011, 05:36:08 PM
he is trying to intentionaly make spelling errors to trow off the cops. probably saying peon.

Ahh, so the silly coppers will be mistakenly rounding up poor spellers.

Good plan.





 


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: chunkramwell on June 06, 2011, 05:38:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_oHPmU8izg


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: mwbbuilder on June 06, 2011, 05:43:31 PM
If he bothers you, don't read his posts. I never, ever read his posts. This isn't because I have an issue with the guy, I just don't have any interest in AAS or trying to decipher the difficult and repetitive prose he uses.



He is like the Bay of steroids -

GB guy: Bay, is this guy gay?

Bay : Of course (who isn't?)


GB guy: GH15 is he on steroids?

GH15: Yes,,,(everbody on steroid)


Tremendous observation and analogy!

They both see the world one way--and demand that everyone else see it that way too to justify their own existence.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Reeves on June 06, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Mr Avidan:
Although I value the opinions and input of others, what you have in gh15 is an individual who promotes and instructs heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  He disparages anyone with a physique who will not admit to this style of drug use.  He calls anyone who weighs 200 lbs with abs a "liar" if they deny drug use.  gh15 is a one trick pony whose time has come and gone.  Bodybuilding is a hobby and lifestyle which gh15 discourages unless it includes heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  Mr. Avidan, as administrator of this board you have a moral responibilty to ensure the safety of it's readers.  Some of the readers are impressionable kids.  Take out the trash Mr. Avidan.

L. Reeves
Santa Monica, CA 


I am far more against the use of drugs in bodybuilding and real sports, however I find gh15's commentary to be insightful and at times humorous.  That is not something I can say about yours.  We may  share the same surname (that means "last" name) but that may well be all.  I say leave gh15 be and ban Noel Fullershit and that diminutive dyke sidekick of his.

Don't go there.  Later, kiddo.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Maldoror on June 06, 2011, 06:19:02 PM
"Bodybuilder" Lex Reeves is a bad gimmick. Whoever is behind this idiot character should be boiled alive in battery acid.

GH15 is the truth -- the truth that naive children and bitter, old, unaccomplished men find hard to swallow. Everybody who has ever been seriously involved in bodybuilding can attest to that.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Largerthanlife on June 06, 2011, 06:19:30 PM
Mr Avidan:
Although I value the opinions and input of others, what you have in gh15 is an individual who promotes and instructs heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  He disparages anyone with a physique who will not admit to this style of drug use.  He calls anyone who weighs 200 lbs with abs a "liar" if they deny drug use.  gh15 is a one trick pony whose time has come and gone.  Bodybuilding is a hobby and lifestyle which gh15 discourages unless it includes heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  Mr. Avidan, as administrator of this board you have a moral responibilty to ensure the safety of it's readers.  Some of the readers are impressionable kids.  Take out the trash Mr. Avidan.

L. Reeves
Santa Monica, CA 



STFU


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: ChopperRider on June 06, 2011, 06:28:33 PM
I am far more against the use of drugs in bodybuilding and real sports, however I find gh15's commentary to be insightful and at times humorous.  That is not something I can say about yours.  We may  share the same surname (that means "last" name) but that may well be all.  I say leave gh15 be and ban Noel Fullershit and that diminutive dyke sidekick of his.

Don't go there.  Later, kiddo.

You type/talk in the same manner as the poster "Pellius".

JMHO.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: jude2 on June 06, 2011, 06:31:34 PM
Liar. You've bragged openly about being a major distributor, and so major, in fact, that you noted that you don't even consider orders of under $1,000 because it wasn't worth your time or effort.  ::)
Busted again. No comeback for this ;D


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: jude2 on June 06, 2011, 06:42:24 PM
What the hell happened to half of this thread.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: basil on June 06, 2011, 07:26:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_oHPmU8izg

Is Paintcan losing his teeth?  Looks like it in that vid.  Looks like a mouthful of stubs.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: DK II on June 06, 2011, 07:29:05 PM
Mr Avidan:
Although I value the opinions and input of others, what you have in gh15 is an individual who promotes and instructs heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  He disparages anyone with a physique who will not admit to this style of drug use.  He calls anyone who weighs 200 lbs with abs a "liar" if they deny drug use.  gh15 is a one trick pony whose time has come and gone.  Bodybuilding is a hobby and lifestyle which gh15 discourages unless it includes heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  Mr. Avidan, as administrator of this board you have a moral responibilty to ensure the safety of it's readers.  Some of the readers are impressionable kids.  Take out the trash Mr. Avidan.

L. Reeves
Santa Monica, CA 



Fuck off, gimmick.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: dj181 on June 06, 2011, 07:38:18 PM
ok ,,now that im done with injects,, i can go on with responds

180lb can have abs ,,even at 5'9 ...but it wont be no 6% naturally at 5'9 ! ,,this is what gh15 is saying,,you can be 10% and have abs ...naturaly at 182.5 lb thats correct ,,will you be competetive ? hell fuckn no

gh15 approved

So does this mean that a fella at 5'11" can be 195 @ 10%?


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2011, 07:39:03 PM
"Fuck off gimmick"? Hahahaha, that's rich. You guys worship a gimmick and now you're calling someone else a gimmick becauase he right? Hahahahahaha!


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: DK II on June 06, 2011, 07:40:31 PM
"Fuck off gimmick"? Hahahaha, that's rich. You guys worship a gimmick and now you're calling someone else a gimmick becauase he right? Hahahahahaha!

Fuck off, coach.

How rich is that?  ::) ::)


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2011, 07:42:21 PM
Lol, I have no problem with that. But until Ron adds that delete profile button I'm going to be an outspoken pain in your ass.....so blow me!


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: DK II on June 06, 2011, 07:46:25 PM
Lol, I have no problem with that. But until Ron adds that delete profile button I'm going to be an outspoken pain in your ass.....so blow me!

More annoying than anything else, not that i even bother what bullshit you type.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: BikiniSlut on June 06, 2011, 07:46:58 PM
GH15 is Bikinislut approved.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2011, 08:05:58 PM
Obviously you do otherwise you wouldn't post in response.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: OTHstrong on June 06, 2011, 08:08:04 PM
i woudl love to continue this denbate but i have to do the truth right now,,and the truth is as follow,,

i have to go get a syrnge....fill it up with sustanona and nandrolona 3 cc... and stick it into my right butt cheeckthen i need to take this surnge put iin it 3 cc of trenbolona ace and equipona,,and stick it into right butt check

yes we do it every day or every 2 days,,

now since i already put 5 iu of gh in my delt an hour ago...then this is not needed,,

but since i need to do the first 2 sentences i wrote...and it take time so do it right brecause it is 3 cc each butt cheeck after all and i want it to sit there comfortably since i do it every couple days...ill have to say bye bye for now and come back later on ,,

see this is the truth ,,i tell you here life of bodybuild,,we do it on the road,,and we do it on prep ,,and we do it big time off season ....and we really dont have offseason ...it just doses changes a bit,,


everyone knows im right,,yet every convict of this cult choses to lie,,for the same reason they lie about other things,,for the same reason they beat up their wife,,for the same reason they lie about eating so much calories,,for the same reason they lie about achivments in life,,for the same reason they lie about having sex with their girlfriends frienst,,for the same reason they lie about anything

pathological liars,,narcsistic ,,and in most cases delusionals


gh15 approved
6 cc in the right butt cheek, ouch  ;D


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 08:17:08 PM
6 cc in the right butt cheek, ouch  ;D

right and left,, 3 cc right 3 cc left,,i sometime do spelling and wording mistakes and too lazy to fix them ,,um actualy i never fix them lol

gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 08:19:39 PM
So does this mean that a fella at 5'11" can be 195 @ 10%?

5'11 ~190lb ,,somewhere there yes but 10% not even 1% less,,and they are the fellas with THE ABSOLIT BEST GENETICS FRAMES AND RESPOND TO TRAINING,,

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: OTHstrong on June 06, 2011, 08:45:20 PM
right and left,, 3 cc right 3 cc left,,i sometime do spelling and wording mistakes and too lazy to fix them ,,um actualy i never fix them lol

gh15 approved
I was just messing with you I knew what you meant, lol,... 2 cc at a time causes me enough pain, i don't think I could take 3 at time, but i guess the bigger you are the less pain.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Largerthanlife on June 06, 2011, 08:59:06 PM
I am not sure why there is no delete profile button, on twitter you can delete your whole profile very fast.  What is the reasoning for making it so difficult for your profile to be deleted?



Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 09:02:36 PM
I was just messing with you I knew what you meant, lol,... 2 cc at a time causes me enough pain, i don't think I could take 3 at time, but i guess the bigger you are the less pain.

no ,,the high level cooks ,,make it painless,, if you have high level chef,,he will make it painless,,there are the ingredients that will make it painless ,,cant talk about them ,,but there are there,,

the best chefs do 400mg/cc of testosterona PAINLESS,,and they are not mexicanos lol

gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: abijahmaniaco on June 06, 2011, 09:24:35 PM
how about you find another forum if you don't like gh15. we can do without you; gh15 is the heart of getbig--can not do without him.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Largerthanlife on June 06, 2011, 09:25:08 PM
how about you find another forum if you don't like gh15. we can do without you; gh15 is the heart of getbig--can not do without him.

lol your talking to a gimmick the guy who started this post.



Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: slacker on June 06, 2011, 09:28:11 PM
lol your talking to a gimmick the guy who started this post.


GETBIG IS A FUCKING JOKE.  NOT EVEN WORTH LOGGING INTO ANY LONGER


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Arnold jr on June 06, 2011, 09:28:39 PM
ok ,,now that im done with injects,, i can go on with responds

180lb can have abs ,,even at 5'9 ...but it wont be no 6% naturally at 5'9 ! ,,this is what gh15 is saying,,you can be 10% and have abs ...naturaly at 182.5 lb thats correct ,,will you be competetive ? hell fuckn no

gh15 approved

This is simply not true. While I'll agree it's not common, in-fact it's quite uncommon but that doesn't mean it's possible. I have seen proof of this in real life first hand in individuals of extremely blessed genetic natures. I'll agree the above is correct for 90% of all people but you cannot exclude the other 10%.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Heavy_Hitter on June 06, 2011, 09:36:16 PM
GH15 is why many many people even log on this board! Love him or hate him he's good publicity for this board. It's like Howard Stern before he went on satelit. 70% of the people who listened to his show hated him, but guess what? They would tune in on the dot everyday to listen to him. No AAS = No Bodybuilder No insulina = No Mass Monster No GH15ona = No Getbigona.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Meso_z on June 06, 2011, 09:37:44 PM
If he answers all the pms he owes me, then he has my permission to stay.  ;D  8)


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 09:48:07 PM
GH15 is why many many people even log on this board! Love him or hate him he's good publicity for this board. It's like Howard Stern before he went on satelit. 70% of the people who listened to his show hated him, but guess what? They would tune in on the dot everyday to listen to him. No AAS = No Bodybuilder No insulina = No Mass Monster No GH15ona = No Getbigona.

the diff is hward stern talk balonie,,what i say here is the absolit truth ,,i been practicing it myself for many many years,,from amatuer levels of begginer in locals and befor elocals to the pro ranks,,this is it fellas,,i say it as it is ,,and the ones who screaming and shouting are the ones who want you to continue beliveing in eating 145 times a day ,,and making sure you drink 40 gallons a day lol i fuckin worked with german fella friend that never drank and was more cut than all the npc top level combined lol ,,half of the shit you are fed is straight out retarded balonie,,

i say it as it is ,,i say it simple,,i say what is used ,,and i say how much of it is used,,i dont cut ,,i dont kiss ass,, i dont sit and wait for admiration ,,admiration came to me due to me speaking the truth ,,


inregarding stalking ,,its part of the cult,,im being stalked on a regular basis for the last 2 years,, its nothing new,,people like to change what i say ,,they like to put their own meanings to it ,,they dont even quote me right,,very few of the ones who hate gh15 quote me with actual getbig threads into their balonie,, few do it ,,majority dont,, in any case it is part of it all,,

you will learn at the end ,,that what seperate sucess in the cult is MAINLY the ability to have enough legit products and enough consistancy and years of training,,

it really dont matter if you eat sushi all day ,,or beef ,,or pitta and hummus  with eggwhites,,what matters it over all caloie intake ,,and the type of drugs you take ,,and those drugs burtn fat ,,oh they fuckin burn bodyfaty with out you even moving your ass into cardio mode,,you train you tske hormones you burn fat ,,the end

gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 06, 2011, 09:50:43 PM
This is simply not true. While I'll agree it's not common, in-fact it's quite uncommon but that doesn't mean it's possible. I have seen proof of this in real life first hand in individuals of extremely blessed genetic natures. I'll agree the above is correct for 90% of all people but you cannot exclude the other 10%.

182lb 8% ...168 on stage,,true natural that been to halodrol lol which ofcourse is not natural but lets call it natural ,,this is simply true ,,its the ONLY TRUTH ,,and it how it works,,,those are the numbers ,,i have seen them all ,,all shapes all forms ,,all dedicated ,,all hood members,,seen them all worked them all ,,trained them all,,black fella white fella all the same ,,they wil be lean and walk 8% with good muscle belies 180 5'9 or white fella with flatter muscle beloies 185 lb 8% ,,thats where natural ends,,,and 5'9 is me being generous,,its usually 5'10 ...the 5'9 is the 10% you talk about,,

im never wrong ,,never ever wrong with this

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on June 06, 2011, 09:59:23 PM
no ,,the high level cooks ,,make it painless,, if you have high level chef,,he will make it painless,,there are the ingredients that will make it painless ,,cant talk about them ,,but there are there,,the best chefs do 400mg/cc of testosterona PAINLESS,,and they are not mexicanos lol

gh15 approved

good to see you too are part of generation nothingness

clowney approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: g101 on June 06, 2011, 10:09:07 PM
every1 comes here for gh15 lol....

no gh15 = no getbig  ;)


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2011, 10:13:17 PM
He's not the reason why I log on. I log on just to see where the next train wreck is. He just happens to be the train wreck everytime I log on. Haha.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: pellius on June 06, 2011, 10:24:55 PM
Mr Avidan:
Although I value the opinions and input of others, what you have in gh15 is an individual who promotes and instructs heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  He disparages anyone with a physique who will not admit to this style of drug use.  He calls anyone who weighs 200 lbs with abs a "liar" if they deny drug use.  gh15 is a one trick pony whose time has come and gone.  Bodybuilding is a hobby and lifestyle which gh15 discourages unless it includes heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  Mr. Avidan, as administrator of this board you have a moral responibilty to ensure the safety of it's readers.  Some of the readers are impressionable kids.  Take out the trash Mr. Avidan.

L. Reeves
Santa Monica, CA 



Why don't we do a simply poll? Who would this board rather have? You or gh15? Whoever gets the most votes stays and the other leaves. Agreed?

Whether you like him or not gh15 is the most compelling character on this board and gets the most views. Most everyone read his posts whether they agree with him or not. If he left this board it will be noticed. In fact, when he stops posting for a while people start to ask where he is. Nobody cares about you. You can delete your account right now and nobody would notice.

This is not your board and you don't get to decide who stays and who goes. Just because you don't like gh15 and want him off the board you think you get to decide for others whether he should stay or go.

You sound like a liberal.

 


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Howard on June 06, 2011, 11:21:53 PM
wait wait,,you tell if gh15 shoulld stay or not? kneel befoe me you peason lol thats a new one lol ,,dont you see for 6 years+ this is going ,,do you know how many pupils and followers gh15 brought to this site,,do know the offers of financial benefit to write for other boardings gh15 got? directly from the muscular develop head! yes yes the HEAD,,for money! i did not agree i said i want ron heris and mike arnodeld removed and then we will see,,they could nto fulfill it because ron heris write their balonie ,,so i declined,,

there are many things you dont know,,


gh15 approved
I see no reason why you should leave, stop postng or be banned.
I don't always agree with you on certain topics and reply as such.
That is what a gossip board is all about.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: BikiniSlut on June 06, 2011, 11:27:10 PM
GETBIG IS A FUCKING JOKE.  NOT EVEN WORTH LOGGING INTO ANY LONGER

You're just angry because Getbiggers are finally wising up to you and your bullshit. Go over to RX Muscle...they will believe anything you say over there.

SLACKER = LIAR.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: wes on June 06, 2011, 11:28:09 PM
Vote gh15 for president !


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: g101 on June 06, 2011, 11:29:36 PM
Mr Avidan:
Although I value the opinions and input of others, what you have in gh15 is an individual who promotes and instructs heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  He disparages anyone with a physique who will not admit to this style of drug use.  He calls anyone who weighs 200 lbs with abs a "liar" if they deny drug use.  gh15 is a one trick pony whose time has come and gone.  Bodybuilding is a hobby and lifestyle which gh15 discourages unless it includes heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  Mr. Avidan, as administrator of this board you have a moral responibilty to ensure the safety of it's readers.  Some of the readers are impressionable kids.  Take out the trash Mr. Avidan.

L. Reeves
Santa Monica, CA  



QUIT NOW.



Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: James28 on June 07, 2011, 01:19:35 AM
the diff is hward stern talk balonie,,what i say here is the absolit truth ,,i been practicing it myself for many many years,,from amatuer levels of begginer in locals and befor elocals to the pro ranks,,this is it fellas,,i say it as it is ,,and the ones who screaming and shouting are the ones who want you to continue beliveing in eating 145 times a day ,,and making sure you drink 40 gallons a day lol i fuckin worked with german fella friend that never drank and was more cut than all the npc top level combined lol ,,half of the shit you are fed is straight out retarded balonie,,

i say it as it is ,,i say it simple,,i say what is used ,,and i say how much of it is used,,i dont cut ,,i dont kiss ass,, i dont sit and wait for admiration ,,admiration came to me due to me speaking the truth ,,


inregarding stalking ,,its part of the cult,,im being stalked on a regular basis for the last 2 years,, its nothing new,,people like to change what i say ,,they like to put their own meanings to it ,,they dont even quote me right,,very few of the ones who hate gh15 quote me with actual getbig threads into their balonie,, few do it ,,majority dont,, in any case it is part of it all,,

you will learn at the end ,,that what seperate sucess in the cult is MAINLY the ability to have enough legit products and enough consistancy and years of training,,

it really dont matter if you eat sushi all day ,,or beef ,,or pitta and hummus  with eggwhites,,what matters it over all caloie intake ,,and the type of drugs you take ,,and those drugs burtn fat ,,oh they fuckin burn bodyfaty with out you even moving your ass into cardio mode,,you train you tske hormones you burn fat ,,the end

gh15 approved

So you saying there's no need to eat as much? What's your opinion on protein shakes?

Natural here btw.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Firemuscle on June 07, 2011, 01:22:36 AM
 If people are stupid enough to inject all those hormones and OD, I say give them a Darwin award and say "good riddance".

 Too many damn people on this Earth anyway.

 Go ahead and inject a vial of insulin bro, it'll get you hyyyuuuge! Totally worth it bro!


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: wes on June 07, 2011, 01:36:10 AM
The more I read from GH15,the more I like him.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Dr Dutch on June 07, 2011, 01:51:07 AM
It's a bit much, the gh15 contributions..


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: DK II on June 07, 2011, 01:52:18 AM
The more I read from GH15,the more I like him.

x2, same here.

gh15 gets better and better lately.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: JasonH on June 07, 2011, 01:54:06 AM
I don't think GH15 is anything more than a gimmick who spouts the same old shit day in day out. I highly doubt he's a pro, just some regular fan of bodybuilding hiding behind a keyboard - he posts way too frequently to be anything near legit. I stopped reading his "pm answered" threads months ago and his spelling seems to be getting worse instead of better - it's like he's trying too hard to be something he's not.

I don't think he should be removed though, as I'm all for freedom of speech, the mods should just send all his threads to the Steroid board instead.  



Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: pellius on June 07, 2011, 01:59:39 AM
I don't think GH15 is anything more than a gimmick who spouts the same old shit day in day out. I highly doubt he's a pro, just some regular fan of bodybuilding hiding behind a keyboard - he posts way too frequently to be anything near legit. I stopped reading his "pm answered" threads months ago and his spelling seems to be getting worse instead of better - it's like he's trying too hard to be something he's not.

I don't think he should be removed though, as I'm all for freedom of speech, the mods should just send all his threads to the Steroid board instead.  



So you always knew that masterona is better than letro for drying you out and keeping a boner?
You knew how many units of gh to take before the real magic happens? What's the best Chinese gh out there? Who are the best hormona chefs out there? Who sells bunk?


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Deicide on June 07, 2011, 02:12:35 AM
So you saying there's no need to eat as much? What's your opinion on protein shakes?

Natural here btw.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 07, 2011, 02:12:52 AM
I don't think GH15 is anything more than a gimmick who spouts the same old shit day in day out. I highly doubt he's a pro, just some regular fan of bodybuilding hiding behind a keyboard - he posts way too frequently to be anything near legit. I stopped reading his "pm answered" threads months ago and his spelling seems to be getting worse instead of better - it's like he's trying too hard to be something he's not.

I don't think he should be removed though, as I'm all for freedom of speech, the mods should just send all his threads to the Steroid board instead.  



wrong on all aspect,,but in regarding to steroid board,,i only posting there once in a blue moon ,,my posting are here for reason ,,moment they move out of here i move out of getbig,,
everything gh15 does is for reason ,,and the gossip and opinion is where it belong ,,it will one day outted who was the pro behind the account,,and i dont need it to be on steroid board,,

in regarding to not reasing gh15...if you didnt read it you woudnt post here,,and wouldnt commment,,every single bodybuild who ever touched weight first thing upon opening eyes is going to read what gh15 say last,,it already common practice for years,,the reason it is known is because every posting is views by 1000s and every day more and more pms ,,when someone is not impoerant it is stopped talked about,,its human nature,,the reason it can be with gh15 is ..gh15 tells the truth as it was is and will be in bodybuild,,when you walk the walk it is easy friend



gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: pellius on June 07, 2011, 02:14:31 AM
wrong on all aspect,,but in regarding to steroid board,,i only posting there once in a blue moon ,,my posting are here for reason ,,moment they move out of here i move out of getbig,,
everything gh15 does is for reason ,,and the gossip and opinion is where it belong ,,it will one day outted who was the pro behind the account,,and i dont need it to be on steroid board,,

in regarding to not reasing gh15...if you didnt read it you woudnt post here,,and wouldnt commment,,every single bodybuild who ever touched weight first thing upon opening eyes is going to read what gh15 say last,,it already common practice for years,,the reason it is known is because every posting is views by 1000s and every day more and more pms ,,when someone is not impoerant it is stopped talked about,,its human nature,,the reason it can be with gh15 is ..gh15 tells the truth as it was is and will be in bodybuild,,when you walk the walk it is easy friend



gh15 approved

Don't bother with this thread. Leave this one to your pupils.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 07, 2011, 02:21:38 AM
So you always knew that masterona is better than letro for drying you out and keeping a boner?
You knew how many units of gh to take before the real magic happens? What's the best Chinese gh out there? Who are the best hormona chefs out there? Who sells bunk?


not only does he not know dat! like the speling? its dj home of ebonics speling : )
but! ,,there is lot of things i still dont say ,,i will in due time,,

fellas dont understand so many things in bodybuild,,they do not understand that on hgh when you finaly down to 6-7% you are done with gaining fat,,no matter what the fuck you do ,,you can sit eat icecream 3 times a day ,,you can eat lots and lots of calorie and you are done getting fat,,you will only retain water,,fellas do not get it thats why we are 250 and they are 180,,yes they are good condition but we are very much same good condition only 250,, the reason is gh and its ability to allow you to basicaly take any hormone of your desire in real high doses,,

fellas think umm i wont take dianabolona because im on 1.5 gram testosterona and 1200 mg of nandrolona and equipona ...they dont understand that it wont matter they can take dianabolona too it will only cause water retention nto fat gain while on hgh,,you will only grow and thicken more,,this is the secret one of them behind bodybuild ,,advanced bodybuild,,

this is why jason and i tell you all the time BUY AS MUCH HGH AS YOU CAN ,,you ask all the time how spike from this site got to be 260 ...you ask how this fella got to be 245 ,,and that fella 250 all 5'10 lol all 6-8% all with abs ...you ask how  twister can be 220 and somewhat in shape...well he lok like balonie now but at 205 he is in shape...5'6! the answer is H G FUCKIN H ,,

YOU CAN BE ON IT ,,YOU CAN EAT MUCH ON IT,,YOU CAN EAT WHATEVRR ON IT ,,IF YOU ARE ALREADY LEAN THE ONLY THING YOU WIL GAIN IS WATER WEIGHT ,,BODYFAT WILL GO DOWN OR WILL STAY DOWN ,,ANDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD! THE DOSES CAN BE INCREASED AND PRODUCTS CAN BE MANY AS YOUR HEART DESIRE AS LONG AS YOU ADVANCE AND CAN SUSTAIN THEM ,,

THIS IS THE SECRET BABY BOYS,,THIS IS IT,, YOU CAN ALLOW YOURSELF TO DO ALL THIS AAS WHIEL ON HGH OR LITTLE AFTER BECAUSE YOU CANT BECOME FAT,,YOU ONLY GROWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW LEVRONE TYPE OF GROWTH ,,HE WAS THE TIP OF THE CROP ,,BUT YOU  GROW  THE SAME WAY ,,THE SAME ROUTE ,,THE SAME STYLE,,

everyone keep asking how how how ,,i tell you how

hgh is a must in modern bodybuild,,then you blast on whatever the fuck you want,,the more the marrier ,,you get as thick as you want,,and! it happen on a weekly basis ,,many times on a daily ! basis ,,

all those female bodybuild ,,male bodybuild ,,all on hgh ,,they fight for it ,,they will kill for it ,,and they live for it ,,it is no more aas it is all hgh game friends,,

gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Jaime on June 07, 2011, 02:29:39 AM
So you always knew that masterona is better than letro for drying you out and keeping a boner?
You knew how many units of gh to take before the real magic happens? What's the best Chinese gh out there? Who are the best hormona chefs out there? Who sells bunk?




Have any of these viewpoints been validated to any degree?

Where are all of these Mr.O's that followed gh15's advice.

Everything he had to say he said years ago, he just repeats the same shit ad nauseam.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Dr Dutch on June 07, 2011, 02:34:50 AM
Has gh15 nothing else to do than posting on getbig?
Maybe working ?


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: pellius on June 07, 2011, 02:36:50 AM


Have any of these viewpoints been validated to any degree?

Where are all of these Mr.O's that followed gh15's advice.

Everything he had to say he said years ago, he just repeats the same shit ad nauseam.

Yes, it has. And nobody knew about kigtropin until our god blessed them.
Proof is in the pudding.
(http://www.bodybuildingweights.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bodybuilder-dennis-james.jpg)


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: DK II on June 07, 2011, 02:57:39 AM
Yes, it has. And nobody knew about kigtropin until our god blessed them.
Proof is in the pudding.
(http://www.bodybuildingweights.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bodybuilder-dennis-james.jpg)

BOOOM!


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: dj181 on June 07, 2011, 03:01:32 AM
not only does he not know dat! like the speling? its dj home of ebonics speling : )
but! ,,there is lot of things i still dont say ,,i will in due time,,

fellas dont understand so many things in bodybuild,,they do not understand that on hgh when you finaly down to 6-7% you are done with gaining fat,,no matter what the fuck you do ,,you can sit eat icecream 3 times a day ,,you can eat lots and lots of calorie and you are done getting fat,,you will only retain water,,fellas do not get it thats why we are 250 and they are 180,,yes they are good condition but we are very much same good condition only 250,, the reason is gh and its ability to allow you to basicaly take any hormone of your desire in real high doses,,

fellas think umm i wont take dianabolona because im on 1.5 gram testosterona and 1200 mg of nandrolona and equipona ...they dont understand that it wont matter they can take dianabolona too it will only cause water retention nto fat gain while on hgh,,you will only grow and thicken more,,this is the secret one of them behind bodybuild ,,advanced bodybuild,,

this is why jason and i tell you all the time BUY AS MUCH HGH AS YOU CAN ,,you ask all the time how spike from this site got to be 260 ...you ask how this fella got to be 245 ,,and that fella 250 all 5'10 lol all 6-8% all with abs ...you ask how  twister can be 220 and somewhat in shape...well he lok like balonie now but at 205 he is in shape...5'6! the answer is H G FUCKIN H ,,

YOU CAN BE ON IT ,,YOU CAN EAT MUCH ON IT,,YOU CAN EAT WHATEVRR ON IT ,,IF YOU ARE ALREADY LEAN THE ONLY THING YOU WIL GAIN IS WATER WEIGHT ,,BODYFAT WILL GO DOWN OR WILL STAY DOWN ,,ANDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD! THE DOSES CAN BE INCREASED AND PRODUCTS CAN BE MANY AS YOUR HEART DESIRE AS LONG AS YOU ADVANCE AND CAN SUSTAIN THEM ,,

THIS IS THE SECRET BABY BOYS,,THIS IS IT,, YOU CAN ALLOW YOURSELF TO DO ALL THIS AAS WHIEL ON HGH OR LITTLE AFTER BECAUSE YOU CANT BECOME FAT,,YOU ONLY GROWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW LEVRONE TYPE OF GROWTH ,,HE WAS THE TIP OF THE CROP ,,BUT YOU  GROW  THE SAME WAY ,,THE SAME ROUTE ,,THE SAME STYLE,,

everyone keep asking how how how ,,i tell you how

hgh is a must in modern bodybuild,,then you blast on whatever the fuck you want,,the more the marrier ,,you get as thick as you want,,and! it happen on a weekly basis ,,many times on a daily ! basis ,,

all those female bodybuild ,,male bodybuild ,,all on hgh ,,they fight for it ,,they will kill for it ,,and they live for it ,,it is no more aas it is all hgh game friends,,

gh15 approved

So god is ma pupil when it comes to ebonic spelling? Nice ;D

But in all seriousness, I think that this get lean first gig applies quite well to natural trainers as well, as I am currently experiencing it at the present moment in time. It's been my experience that once you get lean, you can stay lean while upping the cals, IF you keep your activity level up. I'm curious god, what is your take on that? Does it also apply to natural trainers in your opinion? And is it a requirement to keep the activity levels up while upping the cals in order to stay lean while trying to gain a little bit of lean muscle tissue while one is already within a relatively lean state? By relatively lean I mean @ 8-10%


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: dr.chimps on June 07, 2011, 03:46:57 AM
Yes, it has. And nobody knew about kigtropin until our god blessed them.
Proof is in [eating of] the pudding.
(http://www.bodybuildingweights.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bodybuilder-dennis-james.jpg)
I know you like DJ for gh, but he's not even 1/2 as smart as gh, and gh isn't all that bright.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: WillGrant on June 07, 2011, 04:17:54 AM
wasnt this thread removed...?
amazing how gh15 is allowed to hound and harrass and slander people who actually contribute to these forums... also allowed to turn the G&O forum into a steroid and drugs board... but when a thread is made directly about him its removed...
this guy should have been leaned on years ago... but nothing lasts forever.... just like all previous gimmicks his day will come
STFU liar  ::)


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: WillGrant on June 07, 2011, 04:19:19 AM
Mr Avidan:
Although I value the opinions and input of others, what you have in gh15 is an individual who promotes and instructs heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  He disparages anyone with a physique who will not admit to this style of drug use.  He calls anyone who weighs 200 lbs with abs a "liar" if they deny drug use.  gh15 is a one trick pony whose time has come and gone.  Bodybuilding is a hobby and lifestyle which gh15 discourages unless it includes heavy, dangerous, illegal drug use.  Mr. Avidan, as administrator of this board you have a moral responibilty to ensure the safety of it's readers.  Some of the readers are impressionable kids.  Take out the trash Mr. Avidan.

L. Reeves
Santa Monica, CA 


Hi Coach


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 07, 2011, 04:31:20 AM
GH15 is why many many people even log on this board! Love him or hate him he's good publicity for this board. It's like Howard Stern before he went on satelit. 70% of the people who listened to his show hated him, but guess what? They would tune in on the dot everyday to listen to him. No AAS = No Bodybuilder No insulina = No Mass Monster No GH15ona = No Getbigona.

  Do you have any idea how much of a bitch and sycophant of GH15 you sound by writing like him? You are a beta male who wants to follow an alpha. To quote Arnie:

"Most men have a feminine soul. They want a real man, a hero, to worship and tell them what to do."
 
  And GH15 fans can kiss my ass and leave. They won't be missed. The argument that GH15 attracts posters is laughable. He attracts the worst kind of bodybuilding fans: the kind who thinks that bodybuilding should be about using illegal and health-destroying chemicals first and that the training(bodybuilding), the essence, is of secondary importance. I am sure that if Ron allowed pictures of children being raped to be posted here, that the number of posters would increase too. But it would be undesirable posters.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Tito24 on June 07, 2011, 04:35:26 AM
No, he didn't say that; height factors in as well.

good pupil


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: WillGrant on June 07, 2011, 04:37:33 AM
  Do you have any idea how much of a bitch and sycophant of GH15 you sound by writing like him? You are a beta male who wants to follow an alpha. To quote Arnie:

"Most men have a feminine soul. They want a real man, a hero, to worship and tell them what to do."
 
  And GH15 fans can kiss my ass and leave. They won't be missed. The argument that GH15 attracts posters is laughable. He attracts the worst kind of bodybuilding fans: the kind who thinks that bodybuilding should be about using illegal and health-destroying chemicals first and that the training(bodybuilding), the essence, is of secondary importance. I am sure that if Ron allowed pictures of children being raped to be posted here, that the number of posters would increase too. But it would be undesirable posters.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
The BBs you aspire to be like from the 60s to now all use these so called "illegal and health-destroying chemicals" yet because he talks about it honestly he is the bad guy some how ? no fucking way - these guys have been abusing not using but abusing drugs for over 50 years so what is your problem with someone who is open about it ? you would rather them lie like they all do ? thats shit - be honest and especialy to the youngsters comming up who get burnt by bastard supp companys who all use drug ABUSERS to market there shit products.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Deicide on June 07, 2011, 04:47:22 AM
The BBs you aspire to be like from the 60s to now all use these so called "illegal and health-destroying chemicals" yet because he talks about it honestly he is the bad guy some how ? no fucking way - these guys have been abusing not using but abusing drugs for over 50 years so what is your problem with someone who is open about it ? you would rather them lie like they all do ? thats shit - be honest and especialy to the youngsters comming up who get burnt by bastard supp companys who all use drug ABUSERS to market there shit products.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Tito24 on June 07, 2011, 04:47:55 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=365255.0;attach=401189;image)


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: bladerunner on June 07, 2011, 05:25:54 AM
Fuck off, gimmick.

X20000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: HockeyFightFan on June 07, 2011, 07:25:15 AM
This Lex Reeves is a piss poor gimmick. So many of them around on getbig these days.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: asbrus on June 07, 2011, 11:33:56 AM
This Lex Reeves is a piss poor gimmick. So many of them around on getbig these days.

THIS


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Arnold jr on June 07, 2011, 01:52:47 PM
182lb 8% ...168 on stage,,true natural that been to halodrol lol which ofcourse is not natural but lets call it natural ,,this is simply true ,,its the ONLY TRUTH ,,and it how it works,,,those are the numbers ,,i have seen them all ,,all shapes all forms ,,all dedicated ,,all hood members,,seen them all worked them all ,,trained them all,,black fella white fella all the same ,,they wil be lean and walk 8% with good muscle belies 180 5'9 or white fella with flatter muscle beloies 185 lb 8% ,,thats where natural ends,,,and 5'9 is me being generous,,its usually 5'10 ...the 5'9 is the 10% you talk about,,

im never wrong ,,never ever wrong with this

gh15 approved

While I'll agree a lot of the things you say are true some of them are not and this is a prime example. I'm not speaking on a basis of what I think, I'm speaking in-terms of actual facts, actual proof. I know of two individuals off the top of my head who meet this end, yes, both use gear now but both defied the logic you're stating in the past before they began using gear. Both of these individuals I've trained with, one of them actually lived with me...I know exactly what they do and what they've done down to the last milligram of everything. Both before they started using reached a lean 200lbs and less 7%bf, one of them was closer to 5%. One is now a pro, one is now a top national contender. The pro in question had his natural IGF 1 levels checked at one point and they were 3x the level of a normal human being, so that would explain his situation to a degree. The other guy I don't have any data on like that other than his genetics are obviously far superior to most men.

The point being, such individuals do exist, they may be few and far between but they do exist.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 07, 2011, 03:05:29 PM
While I'll agree a lot of the things you say are true some of them are not and this is a prime example. I'm not speaking on a basis of what I think, I'm speaking in-terms of actual facts, actual proof. I know of two individuals off the top of my head who meet this end, yes, both use gear now but both defied the logic you're stating in the past before they began using gear. Both of these individuals I've trained with, one of them actually lived with me...I know exactly what they do and what they've done down to the last milligram of everything. Both before they started using reached a lean 200lbs and less 7%bf, one of them was closer to 5%. One is now a pro, one is now a top national contender. The pro in question had his natural IGF 1 levels checked at one point and they were 3x the level of a normal human being, so that would explain his situation to a degree. The other guy I don't have any data on like that other than his genetics are obviously far superior to most men.

The point being, such individuals do exist, they may be few and far between but they do exist.
they dont exist ,, i will come later and explain i have to train,, i will gve detail explanation to why individuals like that do not exisit no matter what balonie they sold to you

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Big Worm on June 07, 2011, 03:37:43 PM
i woudl love to continue this denbate but i have to do the truth right now,,and the truth is as follow,,

i have to go get a syrnge....fill it up with sustanona and nandrolona 3 cc... and stick it into my right butt cheeck

then i need to take this surnge put iin it 3 cc of trenbolona ace and equipona,,and stick it into right butt check

yes we do it every day or every 2 days,,

now since i already put 5 iu of gh in my delt an hour ago...then this is not needed,,

but since i need to do the first 2 sentences i wrote...and it take time so do it right brecause it is 3 cc each butt cheeck after all and i want it to sit there comfortably since i do it every couple days...ill have to say bye bye for now and come back later on ,,

see this is the truth ,,i tell you here life of bodybuild,,we do it on the road,,and we do it on prep ,,and we do it big time off season ....and we really dont have offseason ...it just doses changes a bit,,


everyone knows im right,,yet every convict of this cult choses to lie,,for the same reason they lie about other things,,for the same reason they beat up their wife,,for the same reason they lie about eating so much calories,,for the same reason they lie about achivments in life,,for the same reason they lie about having sex with their girlfriends frienst,,for the same reason they lie about anything

pathological liars,,narcsistic ,,and in most cases delusionals


gh15 approved
I feel bad for you.. Obviously ,your parents never taught you to stay away from drugs,and work hard for the thing's you want the most in life... You're a lazy drug addict .. Just for that post alone,you should be stoned..


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Arnold jr on June 07, 2011, 06:06:35 PM
they dont exist ,, i will come later and explain i have to train,, i will gve detail explanation to why individuals like that do not exisit no matter what balonie they sold to you

gh15 approved

I do not need nor do I require an explanation. You need to re-read what I said, I wasn't sold an idea, I was there, in person and have been for many years with these guys. I've always known exactly what they've taken, down to the last milligram of every product and what they didn't take before they began gear, what they've eaten, pretty much anything else that could be considered. Again, these guys are rare, very, rare and most supposed "natural" bodybuilders who are 5'10" or under and 200+lbs less than 6% are liars, I agree with that, I have no problem agreeing with that but there are exceptions, very, very few but they do exist.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 07, 2011, 07:13:58 PM
I do not need nor do I require an explanation. You need to re-read what I said, I wasn't sold an idea, I was there, in person and have been for many years with these guys. I've always known exactly what they've taken, down to the last milligram of every product and what they didn't take before they began gear, what they've eaten, pretty much anything else that could be considered. Again, these guys are rare, very, rare and most supposed "natural" bodybuilders who are 5'10" or under and 200+lbs less than 6% are liars, I agree with that, I have no problem agreeing with that but there are exceptions, very, very few but they do exist.

ok now that im back i  have meal to eat but i can answer this ,,the 200lb bodybuild that walk around6% is not existing truly naturaly ,,that fella if was truly existing woudl have been a world champion ,,

every one and their granma say i live with someone ,,i was with him ,,he is my friendly friend,,i know his sister since i slept with her and he is a clean fella ,,i lived with him and i saw how he ate penuts,, all nice and dandy ,,but anrold junior you live in a scambag cult,, the definition of a scambag cult = cult that has many covicts,,and fellons ,,and NARCOTIC drug addicts,, fellas who abuse everything and anything,,fellas who did stuff before they met you and after they met you ,,fellas who just lie,,it is very very common in the cult called bodybuild,, especialy with the ones WHO DONT CARE FOR COMPETITION  but also very much with the ones who compete,,

 few of the best most dedicatded true naturals i trained,, and i trained them all,, were 180-185 5'10 walking around 8% ... it was really top of the top ,,they looked very good with pump,,with tann,,with their 8% looking like 7% when pumped lean and full,, BUT! they never got to see 190lb on scale unless they were working with oral ,,wether haldrol or turinabol which is same balonie,,they had to have it in system to blow up those 5-10 lbs which ofcourse they lose moment they went off it within 2-3 weeks,, also importanto to remember! soem fellas hold the fat differetnly than other,,gym rat gurus and the such have the tendensy to look into the abdominal insted of the lower back in double bi rear to determine bodyfat,, the fellas who are truly natural ...inorder for them to see muscle fibers running in the xmas tree ,,and muscle fibers running on the kidnys... they need to be much much lower than the 200lb you talk about,,no matter how big their bone is ,,

bodybuild is an illusion ,, you can sell an illusion! you can look bettrer with your 5'6 165lb 6% ..you can look better than 6'1 255lb 8% you can ,, this is illusion activity,,but in reaility...the illusion stop at some point ESPECIALY FOR NATURALS,, the illusion for true naturals stops at 180lb 8%,,5'9 or so ...they will be stuck there for ever and ever and ever  until they go on hormones,,no matter what they do ,,no matter how many times they talk to the dantas and the other pushers of bunk supplements,,no matter how many vacations from lifting they take ,,and no matter how much money they spend on junk creatine,, they will not grow ,,they will either get fat and sick from eating too much ,,or will stay thin and low bodyfat with out pump due to......FAST METABOLIZM even if they eat a lot,,

there is a rule in natural bodybuild and to some extent in hormonized bodybuild,,

how do you know you eat too much?

you wake up everymorning and shit your fuckin inside 10 times... and oh plenty of naturals shit their pants off ,,sitting in the bathroom every 10 min in the morning DUE TO FUCKIN PISSES OF SHIT SUCH AS DANTAS AND GETNY AND THE REST OF THE LIZARDS OF THE CULT,,




gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 07, 2011, 07:18:15 PM
I feel bad for you.. Obviously ,your parents never taught you to stay away from drugs,and work hard for the thing's you want the most in life... You're a lazy drug addict .. Just for that post alone,you should be stoned..

they wanted to kill moses too friend,,THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE,,and i have set many many many free,,

do a pole any boarding of your choice any where say who is the most followed bodybuild in history of bodybuild,,whos advice is most welcome,,who saying it like it is ...you will find gh15 at the absolit top ,,

i took chiwawa protocols that he was too shady to share with anyone to to being slicky as always,,i took liar priest protocols that he was too liar and greedy to share due to him being well liar priest,,,i took any bodybuild protocol and we all follow same path to the top...i took it all and put it black on white,, i put it right on for everyone to see,,

I DO FUCKIN NOT LIKE LIARS,,I DO NOT LIKE FELLONS,, I DO NOT LIKE NARCOTIC ADDICTS,, I DO NOT LIKE MILOS AND HIS LIES,, I DO NOT LIKE LOT OF THINGS IN THE CULT,,WHAT DID I DO?

I FUCKIN CHANGED THEM!

was i sucesful? id say ,,,,,,

si


gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: dj181 on June 07, 2011, 08:40:14 PM
Allright Arnold Jr, even though u lived with one of these outstanding fellas, were u with him every single minute of his waking day? I think not. Remember, it only takes a matter of minutes for a fella to get his "fix" if ya get what I'm saying? And if your talking needles, then add just a few mintues to the necessary "fix" time.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Arnold jr on June 07, 2011, 09:24:16 PM
You guys have to understand, I'm pro-steroid, I'm not delusional, I understand their importance. As GH15 likes to say, when it comes to a competitive bodybuilder in the true nature no steroids = no bodybuilder, this is true, to be competitive in the truest sense of the word anabolic steroids are an absolute necessity.

All I'm saying is the statistics GH15 is giving are while true for most they are not absolute.

While I've mentioned two different guys as an example of this there is one of greater importance, the one whose lived with me, trained with me, I plan his diet, cycles and everything in-between. Before he began competing he sat at a lean 210lbs, 5'9" and appx. 6% body-fat, it was his natural ability to do so that made him realize he had the genetics to really be competitive. Once this was realized he began supplementing with steroids, you'll see him this year on a national stage as a super-heavyweight, around 240lbs and he's only used gear for a little over 4 years and has never touched insulin and has only used HGH for one course about 2 years ago.

No, there's no way to convince anyone who doubts this story, without being able to go back in time and attach yourself to him 24hrs a day some will never believe it...that doesn't mean it's untrue. Freaks of nature exist, they are not the norm and that's why we call them freaks.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: dj181 on June 07, 2011, 09:31:23 PM
he sat at a lean 210lbs, 5'9" and appx. 6% body-fat

I'm not hating on ya man, but do you realize those stats right there "5'9" 210 @ 6%" top Zane at his peak conditon by over 20 pounds? His peak condition was 5'9" 187 @ 5%


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Meso_z on June 07, 2011, 09:32:49 PM
THIS
Assbrush.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: dj181 on June 07, 2011, 09:48:36 PM
Assbrush.

SCOTLAND>france ;D


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: WillGrant on June 07, 2011, 11:34:37 PM
Assbrush.
;D


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Arnold jr on June 08, 2011, 07:15:58 AM
I'm not hating on ya man, but do you realize those stats right there "5'9" 210 @ 6%" top Zane at his peak conditon by over 20 pounds? His peak condition was 5'9" 187 @ 5%

Yes I do. There's always someone better, always and then there will eventually be someone better than that person. That's just life.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: pellius on June 08, 2011, 07:26:41 AM
I know you like DJ for gh, but he's not even 1/2 as smart as gh, and gh isn't all that bright.

Hi Sev.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Secret Stack on June 08, 2011, 11:08:13 AM
Yes I do. There's always someone better, always and then there will eventually be someone better than that person. That's just life.

are u out of ur mind?

this "boy" of urs did 20lbs...20lbs! more in lean muscle....than...zane?


wasnt it zane they called "the chemist" lol..

im reading ur reply thinking, he didnt just write that when he was just presented the stats of a drug addict that knew back to front about training and dieting too...and this natural u knew of over took zane on his 3x hgiher than natrual igf levels? lol.

"Yes I do. There's always someone better, always and then there will eventually be someone better than that person. That's just life."
...the reply after he was shown a man of 20 fuckn pounds LESS of lean mass drug addict compared to his natural friend.

i cant fukn beleive this shit on here.,


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Big Worm on June 08, 2011, 01:15:18 PM
they wanted to kill moses too friend,,THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE,,and i have set many many many free,,

do a pole any boarding of your choice any where say who is the most followed bodybuild in history of bodybuild,,whos advice is most welcome,,who saying it like it is ...you will find gh15 at the absolit top ,,

i took chiwawa protocols that he was too shady to share with anyone to to being slicky as always,,i took liar priest protocols that he was too liar and greedy to share due to him being well liar priest,,,i took any bodybuild protocol and we all follow same path to the top...i took it all and put it black on white,, i put it right on for everyone to see,,

I DO FUCKIN NOT LIKE LIARS,,I DO NOT LIKE FELLONS,, I DO NOT LIKE NARCOTIC ADDICTS,, I DO NOT LIKE MILOS AND HIS LIES,, I DO NOT LIKE LOT OF THINGS IN THE CULT,,WHAT DID I DO?

I FUCKIN CHANGED THEM!

was i sucesful? id say ,,,,,,

si


gh15 approved
You need to grasp the fact that the internet is Ginormous...!!!  The handful of fans you have,are only your fans,because they do drugs(like you).. Aside from that,no one gives a shit what you have to say about drugs,and drug use.. God knows how many children are easily influenced by idiots like yourself..? You teach and promote laziness.. The real geniuses,do not do steroids(drugs,maybe).. They study hard and work hard,and make a difference in the world.. When you talk about how great you are,you come across like an uneducated lowlife.. There is no doubt in my mind,you are exactly how you come across... Your identity is hidden,because you know you wouldn't make it to the store without at least 10 angry parents trying to kill you,by the time you get there.. You're petty and a Phucking Bum.. Are you successful..? I'd say no.. People who are successful use their real names and can account for every legitimate dollar they've made.. They don't keep their money under their mattresses..! They keep it in the bank (not safe deposit boxes)..


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Arnold jr on June 08, 2011, 01:27:16 PM
are u out of ur mind?

this "boy" of urs did 20lbs...20lbs! more in lean muscle....than...zane?


wasnt it zane they called "the chemist" lol..

im reading ur reply thinking, he didnt just write that when he was just presented the stats of a drug addict that knew back to front about training and dieting too...and this natural u knew of over took zane on his 3x hgiher than natrual igf levels? lol.

"Yes I do. There's always someone better, always and then there will eventually be someone better than that person. That's just life."
...the reply after he was shown a man of 20 fuckn pounds LESS of lean mass drug addict compared to his natural friend.

i cant fukn beleive this shit on here.,

Is it not possible for someone to be born who possess better genetics than Zane? Of course it's possible, no matter how unlikely it is still possible.

Keep in mind I have no reason on earth to lie about this, I don't gain anything from making up a story like this; for crying out loud in my opinion, which I have stated numerous times to be a competitive bodybuilder of any notable worth steroids are an absolute must.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on June 08, 2011, 01:29:44 PM
I DO NOT LIKE NARCOTIC ADDICTS,,

you must not like yourself then...

no ,,the high level cooks ,,make it painless,, if you have high level chef,,he will make it painless,,there are the ingredients that will make it painless ,,cant talk about them ,,but there are there,,

the best chefs do 400mg/cc of testosterona PAINLESS,,and they are not mexicanos lol

gh15 approved
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Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 08, 2011, 02:59:57 PM
You need to grasp the fact that the internet is Ginormous...!!!  The handful of fans you have,are only your fans,because they do drugs(like you).. Aside from that,no one gives a shit what you have to say about drugs,and drug use.. God knows how many children are easily influenced by idiots like yourself..? You teach and promote laziness.. The real geniuses,do not do steroids(drugs,maybe).. They study hard and work hard,and make a difference in the world.. When you talk about how great you are,you come across like an uneducated lowlife.. There is no doubt in my mind,you are exactly how you come across... Your identity is hidden,because you know you wouldn't make it to the store without at least 10 angry parents trying to kill you,by the time you get there.. You're petty and a Phucking Bum.. Are you successful..? I'd say no.. People who are successful use their real names and can account for every legitimate dollar they've made.. They don't keep their money under their mattresses..! They keep it in the bank (not safe deposit boxes)..

lol you do make me laugh ,, everythign you say is nice and dandy but the fact of the matter is that i speak the truth ,,this is why my identity is hiden and this is why the suplemtn pushers hate gh15,,this is just the way it is,,

inregard to following ,, its enormous,,when you have fellas that know the name gh15 with tout ever being on boardings....in locals gyms ,,this is quite big ,,i dont really care though,,its nice that i made such big impact with gh15 btu the reailty of the matter I ONLY CARE ABOUT THE TRUTH SO NEXT GENERATION WILL NOT BE AS FUCKED AS THE LAST ONE INREGARD TO DELUSIONS AND LIES FED TO THEM BUT LIZARDS

oh and i keep money in the bank....s : )

gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: abijahmaniaco on June 08, 2011, 03:43:44 PM
all talk. as always: pics or it didn't happen. ::)


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Arnold jr on June 08, 2011, 05:39:17 PM
all talk. as always: pics or it didn't happen. ::)

As for a pic as it pertains to this discussion what's the point? All it will do is lead people to continue not believing it.

While a natural bodybuilder of this size and leanness is rare I am of the opinion most do not believe it's possible because it's not possible for them. People do not like believing things that are beyond their abilities or grasp.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 08, 2011, 06:23:26 PM
As for a pic as it pertains to this discussion what's the point? All it will do is lead people to continue not believing it.

While a natural bodybuilder of this size and leanness is rare I am of the opinion most do not believe it's possible because it's not possible for them. People do not like believing things that are beyond their abilities or grasp.

its not possible for anyone not only for them ,,not possible for me and im top pro ,,not posible for you ,,not possible for fake naturals not possible for not fake naturals,, not possible for black ,,white,,pink,,yellow and blue,,not possible for the human race,,

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Big Worm on June 08, 2011, 07:25:35 PM
lol you do make me laugh ,, everythign you say is nice and dandy but the fact of the matter is that i speak the truth ,,this is why my identity is hiden and this is why the suplemtn pushers hate gh15,,this is just the way it is,,

inregard to following ,, its enormous,,when you have fellas that know the name gh15 with tout ever being on boardings....in locals gyms ,,this is quite big ,,i dont really care though,,its nice that i made such big impact with gh15 btu the reailty of the matter I ONLY CARE ABOUT THE TRUTH SO NEXT GENERATION WILL NOT BE AS FUCKED AS THE LAST ONE INREGARD TO DELUSIONS AND LIES FED TO THEM BUT LIZARDS

oh and i keep money in the bank....s : )

gh15 approved
You're an idiot.. I am a member on numerous sites,and on 2 of them ,they call you a drug pushing moron... On another,they don't ever speak of you.. But you're too stupid to know what the right thing is.. I know what the reality is..But it doesn't mean it's right.. So I understand this is your business,and how you raise and feed your family,but it's not the right way.. Some kid thinking of becoming a junkie,will stumble on this site,and abandon the thought of working hard and building a solid base.. You are jelly,and have no heart..I go to the gym  and bust my ass with my son,then go to the boxing club,and spar...  No short cuts,hard work and sweat... My son,the same....People need to monitor their children,and do something about people like you.. We all know Pro's do steroids,so what truth are you exposing when you talk about your cycle and giving other folks cycles on an open forum? You're just promoting your business,nothing more.. People like you never learn,until the cops teach you.. and sir.....one day,you will learn a hard lesson..


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 08, 2011, 07:49:25 PM
You're an idiot.. I am a member on numerous sites,and on 2 of them ,they call you a drug pushing moron... On another,they don't ever speak of you.. But you're too stupid to know what the right thing is.. I know what the reality is..But it doesn't mean it's right.. So I understand this is your business,and how you raise and feed your family,but it's not the right way.. Some kid thinking of becoming a junkie,will stumble on this site,and abandon the thought of working hard and building a solid base.. You are jelly,and have no heart..I go to the gym  and bust my ass with my son,then go to the boxing club,and spar...  No short cuts,hard work and sweat... My son,the same....People need to monitor their children,and do something about people like you.. We all know Pro's do steroids,so what truth are you exposing when you talk about your cycle and giving other folks cycles on an open forum? You're just promoting your business,nothing more.. People like you never learn,until the cops teach you.. and sir.....one day,you will learn a hard lesson..

not only im the most stalked about individual to ever grace boardings,,im also the most talked about individual to ever grace the boardings,,and most importantly im the most knowledgable one!,,all the sites you talk about whatever sites you mention i keep brought up many many times a week ,,just go to google or any youtube type gh15 i come up,,every place every where i come up,,peopel are infatuated with me and my life is at risk and its known and i accepted it already

insted of being frastated individual,, learn to accept facts,,i didnt  get to the top by mistake,,i made good time many years of highly important contributations ,,the bible is what it is --the bible and it is there for everyone to read,,and it is my prime work with regard to revealing true bodybuild and hwat it is ,,and im veyr very proud of it ,,i have saved 100s of thousands around the world from a very dissapointing short life as a wanna be and made them into something that might just be!

now the ball is in their court and time will tell,,

gh15 approved


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: dj181 on June 08, 2011, 08:30:56 PM
As for a pic as it pertains to this discussion what's the point? All it will do is lead people to continue not believing it.

While a natural bodybuilder of this size and leanness is rare I am of the opinion most do not believe it's possible because it's not possible for them. People do not like believing things that are beyond their abilities or grasp.

Remember man, weight don't mean jack shit without taking % bodyfat into consideration as well. Many fellas will go around saying "yeah bro I'm sub-6" when in FACT they actually sitting at 8-9%, and there is a HUGE, HUGE DIFFERENCE btw sub-6 and 8-9% HUGE!


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Overbulkedguy on June 08, 2011, 10:10:34 PM
You're an idiot.. I am a member on numerous sites,and on 2 of them ,they call you a drug pushing moron... On another,they don't ever speak of you.. But you're too stupid to know what the right thing is.. I know what the reality is..But it doesn't mean it's right.. So I understand this is your business,and how you raise and feed your family,but it's not the right way.. Some kid thinking of becoming a junkie,will stumble on this site,and abandon the thought of working hard and building a solid base.. You are jelly,and have no heart..I go to the gym  and bust my ass with my son,then go to the boxing club,and spar...  No short cuts,hard work and sweat... My son,the same....People need to monitor their children,and do something about people like you.. We all know Pro's do steroids,so what truth are you exposing when you talk about your cycle and giving other folks cycles on an open forum? You're just promoting your business,nothing more.. People like you never learn,until the cops teach you.. and sir.....one day,you will learn a hard lesson..

lmao how delusional are you? I love angry self righteous "naturals". Gh15 pro or not a pro in my book does exactly what he says and thats lay everything right out in the open so we can look at whats really going on. I personally wish I would have stumbled upon the bible earlier in my bodybuilding goals cause if I had I wouldn't have wasted countless dollars on bs supplements and bogus training routines ect.. GH15 isn't a source either worm. Only thing he's selling is the freaking truth. The fact of the matter is kids are going to find a way to get what they want no matter what. Even if you are sitting there with one hand on their shoulder and a thumb up their ass. The day Gh15 is removed from getbig because a bunch of angry liars and morons that don't have the guts/balls to do what they know needs to be done to get bigger than 175 pounds soaking wet with their "hard work" and squeaky clean diets is going to be a sad day.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Arnold jr on June 08, 2011, 10:51:04 PM
Remember man, weight don't mean jack shit without taking % bodyfat into consideration as well. Many fellas will go around saying "yeah bro I'm sub-6" when in FACT they actually sitting at 8-9%, and there is a HUGE, HUGE DIFFERENCE btw sub-6 and 8-9% HUGE!

You're right, there is a huge difference between 6 & 8%, no doubt. You're also right, most guys will say they're a certain BF% and many times actually believe it and they've more than likely never had it checked and if they did it was more than likely with calipers and done so improperly. However, this is not the case here with the situation listed above.

its not possible for anyone not only for them ,,not possible for me and im top pro ,,not posible for you ,,not possible for fake naturals not possible for not fake naturals,, not possible for black ,,white,,pink,,yellow and blue,,not possible for the human race,,

gh15 approved

For years they've said a 105mph fastball was impossible, a few days ago Aroldis Chapman of the Reds broke the supposed impossible mark. No one ever thought dunking a basketball from the foul line would be physically possible and then Dr. J did just that.

GH15, saying something is so does not make it so. You may be a top pro, whether that's true or not does not matter; even if you are a top pro and you can't do something does not mean it cannot be done, just because you've personally never seen it done does not mean it cannot be done. It may be highly, very highly unlikely and in this case it is but the truth is in the reality...if one single person does it, even if he is the only one then you cannot say it cannot be done.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: asbrus on June 08, 2011, 10:53:51 PM
You're right, there is a huge difference between 6 & 8%, no doubt. You're also right, most guys will say they're a certain BF% and many times actually believe it and they've more than likely never had it checked and if they did it was more than likely with calipers and done so improperly. However, this is not the case here with the situation listed above.

For years they've said a 105mph fastball was impossible, a few days ago Aroldis Chapman of the Reds broke the supposed impossible mark. No one ever thought dunking a basketball from the foul line would be physically possible and then Dr. J did just that.

GH15, saying something is so does not make it so. You may be a top pro, whether that's true or not does not matter; even if you are a top pro and you can't do something does not mean it cannot be done, just because you've personally never seen it done does not mean it cannot be done. It may be highly, very highly unlikely and in this case it is but the truth is in the reality...if one single person does it, even if he is the only one then you cannot say it cannot be done.


UMM N0 THAT REC0RD WAS BR0KEN WITH DRUGS N0T NATURAL.


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Arnold jr on June 09, 2011, 07:52:49 AM

UMM N0 THAT REC0RD WAS BR0KEN WITH DRUGS N0T NATURAL.

You people are missing the point, it's honestly like arguing with 4yr olds. Everyone said it wasn't humanly possible yet it was.

BTW, which record are you referring too...Chapman or Dr. J?


Title: Re: 0pen Letter To Mr Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: asbrus on June 09, 2011, 06:25:24 PM
Sensless dribble.  Get off the forum.

PLEASE DELETE Y0UR ACC0UNT AND GET THE FUCK 0UT 0F HERE.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Big Worm on June 10, 2011, 09:16:39 AM
lmao how delusional are you? I love angry self righteous "naturals". Gh15 pro or not a pro in my book does exactly what he says and thats lay everything right out in the open so we can look at whats really going on. I personally wish I would have stumbled upon the bible earlier in my bodybuilding goals cause if I had I wouldn't have wasted countless dollars on bs supplements and bogus training routines ect.. GH15 isn't a source either worm. Only thing he's selling is the freaking truth. The fact of the matter is kids are going to find a way to get what they want no matter what. Even if you are sitting there with one hand on their shoulder and a thumb up their ass. The day Gh15 is removed from getbig because a bunch of angry liars and morons that don't have the guts/balls to do what they know needs to be done to get bigger than 175 pounds soaking wet with their "hard work" and squeaky clean diets is going to be a sad day.
Delusional!?  LOL.. Yeah okay... What goals?  If you're not a Pro in any Sport.....then you've achieved nothing!  Get that through your head.. You can lift alot of weight? So what? What does that do for you? At the end of the day,all you're doing is fishing for compliments at the gym..You're insecure and impatient,and refuse to work hard for your goals.. I'm not angry..I have a wonderful life!  But am i being untruthful? There is absolutely no reason to take (DRUGS)steroids,unless big money is on the line,or near  future..  You are a weak minded individual,an read GH's posts...The guy is a step under handicapped.. I read his posts and think,how the hell can people understand this guy,let alone,trust him? Then I read  all that take his advice,and say"oh Okay",I get it..LOL.. You'll see...One day(god forbid)you'l take something that does not agree with your body,then he'll tell you"oh yeah,just take this,to fix that".. and your life will change forever.. I will never see what the rush is? But I'm sure you and all of your success stories will be posted on here ,showing me how dumb I am,right? 175lbs is bad? Since when? I weigh a little more than that,but I can outrun you,and knock out guys like you,with no problem.. Why are you better again? Oh yeah,because you lift more than me? LOL.. You're getting this whole thing wrong.. We lift to be healthy,and live a good life,with as little problems as possible..
 I wake up ,work,and lift,then box...I've been doing this for many years... Nothing in between..no pricking myself in the ass,or shoulder to add an inch here,or there..It's as stupid as it sounds,and sadly,one day you will learn the hard way..


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Thespritz0 on June 10, 2011, 09:32:56 AM
I have one thing to say to RON- if gh15 is removed, GetBig is as good as GONE...... ;)


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Big Worm on June 10, 2011, 09:52:24 AM
I have one thing to say to RON- if gh15 is removed, GetBig is as good as GONE...... ;)
Getbig was here before him,and will be here after ..


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: jude2 on June 10, 2011, 07:34:54 PM
Getbig was here before him,and will be here after ..
Thats for sure.


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Overbulkedguy on June 10, 2011, 09:06:04 PM

Delusional!?  LOL.. Yeah okay... What goals?  If you're not a Pro in any Sport.....then you've achieved nothing!  Get that through your head.. You can lift alot of weight? So what? What does that do for you? At the end of the day,all you're doing is fishing for compliments at the gym..You're insecure and impatient,and refuse to work hard for your goals.. I'm not angry..I have a wonderful life!  But am i being untruthful? There is absolutely no reason to take (DRUGS)steroids,unless big money is on the line,or near  future..  You are a weak minded individual,an read GH's posts...The guy is a step under handicapped.. I read his posts and think,how the hell can people understand this guy,let alone,trust him? Then I read  all that take his advice,and say"oh Okay",I get it..LOL.. You'll see...One day(god forbid)you'l take something that does not agree with your body,then he'll tell you"oh yeah,just take this,to fix that".. and your life will change forever.. I will never see what the rush is? But I'm sure you and all of your success stories will be posted on here ,showing me how dumb I am,right? 175lbs is bad? Since when? I weigh a little more than that,but I can outrun you,and knock out guys like you,with no problem.. Why are you better again? Oh yeah,because you lift more than me? LOL.. You're getting this whole thing wrong.. We lift to be healthy,and live a good life,with as little problems as possible..
 I wake up ,work,and lift,then box...I've been doing this for many years... Nothing in between..no pricking myself in the ass,or shoulder to add an inch here,or there..It's as stupid as it sounds,and sadly,one day you will learn the hard way..

where did I post my lifts or anything that remotely looked like I was fishing for compliments? I agree with you on the being pro thing but to be a pro or get to the top in most sports /99% of the time you're gonna have to do stuff that mosr would regard as wrong or absurd. in my case that means somewhere down the line ill have to inject 3cc of those evil steroids in my glutes after some gh. ive had way worse reactions with all the balonie otc supps than with any of the so called dangerous hormones. I never once claimed to be better than anyone . in fact I live my life like I'm one step behind everyone else whether I am or not and that helps me continue to learn and grow instead of becoming content. I despise people that constantly remind you they are better then you. I lift for completely different reasons then you just like you probably lift for different reasons than Joe they lives next to you. are any of us more in the right? no. as long as you are getting what you want our of your training who cares what anyone else is doing? I busted my ass naturally for ten years and I'm busting my ass harder than ever now. the only thing you said that bothered me was calling me lazy. you have no idea how hard I train and diet.  I love and live bodybuilding and drugs(STEROIDS) are just a part of that.  i personally can deal with that fact.  


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Big Worm on June 11, 2011, 04:15:10 PM
where did I post my lifts or anything that remotely looked like I was fishing for compliments? I agree with you on the being pro thing but to be a pro or get to the top in most sports /99% of the time you're gonna have to do stuff that mosr would regard as wrong or absurd. in my case that means somewhere down the line ill have to inject 3cc of those evil steroids in my glutes after some gh. ive had way worse reactions with all the balonie otc supps than with any of the so called dangerous hormones. I never once claimed to be better than anyone . in fact I live my life like I'm one step behind everyone else whether I am or not and that helps me continue to learn and grow instead of becoming content. I despise people that constantly remind you they are better then you. I lift for completely different reasons then you just like you probably lift for different reasons than Joe they lives next to you. are any of us more in the right? no. as long as you are getting what you want our of your training who cares what anyone else is doing? I busted my ass naturally for ten years and I'm busting my ass harder than ever now. the only thing you said that bothered me was calling me lazy. you have no idea how hard I train and diet.  I love and live bodybuilding and drugs(STEROIDS) are just a part of that.  i personally can deal with that fact.  
So,you do steroids to be weak? When did I say on here you were fishing for compliments? I said at the gym.. Okay,so....you're cycling because you are in something in which you need to do (drugs)steroids to be the best? Let me tell you what I see... I see bodybuilders doing high doses of (drugs)steroids,to get big.....Then when they get ready for a show,they do more (drugs)steroids,to lose fat..!?  It's stupid,and people that do it,and don't get paid for it,are risking their healths for nothing?.. I in no way think I am better than you..So please,don't take it that way.... But I feel like nothing can take the place of hard work.. I can live with steroids being a part of any and every sport,because I just don't care enough about it.. I've learned ,never put faith in anyone,because they will eventually let you down.. GH is a dirty low down piece of sh!t.. I'll say it here and if I saw him him on the street,I'd tell him the same.. If I insulted you,I apologize,you've been a gentleman the whole time,and you deserve the same respect you've given me.. 
 Wormie Approved..!


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 11, 2011, 07:43:27 PM
So,you do steroids to be weak? When did I say on here you were fishing for compliments? I said at the gym.. Okay,so....you're cycling because you are in something in which you need to do (drugs)steroids to be the best? Let me tell you what I see... I see bodybuilders doing high doses of (drugs)steroids,to get big.....Then when they get ready for a show,they do more (drugs)steroids,to lose fat..!?  It's stupid,and people that do it,and don't get paid for it,are risking their healths for nothing?.. I in no way think I am better than you..So please,don't take it that way.... But I feel like nothing can take the place of hard work.. I can live with steroids being a part of any and every sport,because I just don't care enough about it.. I've learned ,never put faith in anyone,because they will eventually let you down.. GH is a dirty low down piece of sh!t.. I'll say it here and if I saw him him on the street,I'd tell him the same.. If I insulted you,I apologize,you've been a gentleman the whole time,and you deserve the same respect you've given me.. 
 Wormie Approved..!

who gave you bad hormone friend,, tlel me the source name il make sure you get fresh made hormones from the pharmacy with! script...just stop bitchin already like an old yentel lol gh15 this gh15 that gh15 doos,,you dont have to read gh15,,you can skip to the porn boarding right away lol

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Big Worm on June 12, 2011, 11:39:52 AM
who gave you bad hormone friend,, tlel me the source name il make sure you get fresh made hormones from the pharmacy with! script...just stop bitchin already like an old yentel lol gh15 this gh15 that gh15 doos,,you dont have to read gh15,,you can skip to the porn boarding right away lol

gh15 approved
Like I've said before,and I'll say it once again..If you're  not talking about drugs,you've nothing intelligent to say.. We're not friends and don't get it confused..I will never stoop down to your weak level,and do drugs.... Yentel? Isn't that food? doos? Porn boarding?  Who in their right mind would take advice from an uneducated illiterate a$$hole,like you,I'll never understand?


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: OTHstrong on June 12, 2011, 03:14:05 PM
Like I've said before,and I'll say it once again..If you're  not talking about drugs,you've nothing intelligent to say.. We're not friends and don't get it confused..I will never stoop down to your weak level,and do drugs.... Yentel? Isn't that food? doos? Porn boarding?  Who in their right mind would take advice from an uneducated illiterate a$$hole,like you,I'll never understand?
Don't take things sopersonal, jeez :'(


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: abijahmaniaco on June 18, 2011, 06:49:56 PM
Who in their right mind would take advice from an uneducated illiterate a$$hole,like you,I'll never understand?
meldown ::)


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: Howard on June 30, 2011, 08:17:02 PM
who gave you bad hormone friend,, tlel me the source name il make sure you get fresh made hormones from the pharmacy with! script...just stop bitchin already like an old yentel lol gh15 this gh15 that gh15 doos,,you dont have to read gh15,,you can skip to the porn boarding right away lol

gh15 approved
I think you make up crack and pull shit out your ass GH15. BUT, this is gossip board about BB and at least you talk about BB  stuff.
Post on baby , post on!


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: gh15 on June 30, 2011, 08:58:02 PM
forest ,, what i think about you is not needed to be said because you will be ashamed if i told you what i thikn about you ... reality of the mater is that you are npc judge ,, you are liar! like the rest of your generation ,, and most importantly and this is the sad thing....you are GOO LEE BEL!

go watch the movie super 8 .....you remind me that fat kid in that movie ,,i swear i was thinking of you whenever that fatzo opened his mouth

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
Post by: w8m8 on July 01, 2011, 03:35:46 AM
forest ,, what i think about you is not needed to be said because you will be ashamed if i told you what i thikn about you ... reality of the mater is that you are npc judge ,, you are liar! like the rest of your generation ,, and most importantly and this is the sad thing....you are GOO LEE BEL!

go watch the movie super 8 .....you remind me that fat kid in that movie ,,i swear i was thinking of you whenever that fatzo opened his mouth

gh15 approved

LOL