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Title: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: IceCold on June 14, 2011, 03:01:19 PM
Prime ruhl vs. prime nasser.

Who is better..

Discuss.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: gh15 on June 14, 2011, 03:09:47 PM
you gotta be nuts,, really

mr o top of the top ,,winner,, second place,, tight waist ...v taper,, wide delts,, what is there to compare? when was german marcus ever got into top o placing? dumb comparison friend

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: mesmorph78 on June 14, 2011, 03:10:27 PM
both had huge delts...
and no tris
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: che on June 14, 2011, 03:13:28 PM
Mr Nazzer hands down.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Skeletor on June 14, 2011, 03:15:58 PM
Nasser was very impressive and consistent until 1998 or so. Ruhl in 2002 was insane though.

(http://www.ironfactor.cz/_upload/_images/9319_NOC2002.jpg)
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 14, 2011, 03:16:41 PM
Nasser
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: io856 on June 14, 2011, 03:17:22 PM
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 14, 2011, 03:19:21 PM
both had huge delts...
and no tris


no tris?  ???
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: gh15 on June 14, 2011, 03:22:35 PM
mass!
got!
to!
go!
with!

CLASS,,

if its not mass with class...better be little like chiwawa...which also had mass with class but couldnt take it to beasty size so remained...200lb mass with class!

mass with class doesnt = weight on scale...it = balance,, symetry,, tight flat small waist that goes up in a v to large and incharge delts.. all along with dense thick muscle that is developed equally,, if you cant achieve this while number climb on scale then you = no good for top bodybuild

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: gh15 on June 14, 2011, 03:25:16 PM
sorry i take it back,,

mass with class used! to be the way untill the 2000s,, now it is anything goes,,my bad,,now it is who ever abused more hormone and can pack on more blown up muscle from within is winner,, no matter 40 inch waist 42 inch waist,, no matter ,,just show low bodyfat and have some good insertions and you are fixed lol

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Swlabr on June 14, 2011, 03:39:42 PM
ITT: we confirm GH15 is Nasser.

Good to know. :) How are you, Nasser?
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: claymore on June 14, 2011, 03:56:14 PM
Nasser by a mile !!
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: The Grim Lifter on June 14, 2011, 04:11:20 PM
ITT: we confirm GH15 is Nasser.

Good to know. :) How are you, Nasser?

Well one thing is sure, we certainly confirmed it isn't Ruhl
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on June 14, 2011, 04:15:45 PM
Well one thing is sure, we certainly confirmed it isn't Ruhl

Ruhl was known to be extremely objective - even by German standards.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: theheman on June 14, 2011, 04:25:24 PM
Mr. Nasser your big ego gave it all away.  Mr. gh15 has got to be Mr. Nasser.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on June 14, 2011, 04:45:27 PM
Personally, I've got to go with Ruhl. He looked pretty damn good back in the day when he was goin' through his " Duke Nukem " phase. :D
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: wes on June 14, 2011, 04:47:16 PM
nasser
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: mesmorph78 on June 14, 2011, 04:50:26 PM
no tris?  ???
show the tris in relation to his whole body not a zoomed tri pic
nassers arms were small for his size....
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: mesmorph78 on June 14, 2011, 04:58:37 PM
(http://www.darkwoods.com/bodybuilder/men/bb/gallery/fullsize/elsonb03.jpg)
(http://mister-olympia.bganzeige.de/wp-content/nasser_el_sonbaty.jpg)
(http://www.martialedge.net/images/stories/review-event/article-images/big.jpg)

for his size small arms...
i remember in an issue of flex ...
in an exchange
flex said nasser had small arms .. and i agree ... for his size that is
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Nails on June 14, 2011, 05:05:39 PM
nasser el sonbaty


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2SN7til3Z2U/S5M1ij5z9DI/AAAAAAAACQQ/oE8ypVJyvKE/s320/p.jpg)
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: GroinkTropin on June 14, 2011, 05:14:58 PM
you gotta be nuts,, really

mr o top of the top ,,winner,, second place,, tight waist ...v taper,, wide delts,, what is there to compare? when was german marcus ever got into top o placing? dumb comparison friend

gh15 approved


Yes we know you were better Nasser, even though it means nothing in 2011 does it?

Get off your lazy ass and do the revived masters olympia. Stop living in the fucking past.

Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: mesmorph78 on June 14, 2011, 05:19:22 PM
square box look
delts too big for arms and it gives that sqaure box look.....
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Parker on June 14, 2011, 05:27:26 PM
 I'll have to go with Nasser, as Nasser never had a alien looking hernia on his belly button like Ruhl, and he looked more aesthetic than Ruhl. Ruhl was a freak in the same vein as Dillett, but Ruhl was not top O material like Nasser was.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Danjo on June 14, 2011, 05:28:38 PM
Nasser by a country mile-overall higher quality physique.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Nails on June 14, 2011, 05:28:51 PM
(http://bodybuilderlog.com/images/bodybuilderlog_flight-sep06-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Nails on June 14, 2011, 05:30:08 PM
Steroids..... JUST HE FINISHING TOUCH


(http://www.bodybuildingforums.com.au/attachments/bodybuilding-news/103d1239280323-ifbb-pros-when-they-were-young-markusruhl.jpg)
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: BILL ANVIL on June 14, 2011, 05:33:10 PM
Masser

Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: yates fan on June 14, 2011, 05:34:23 PM
nasser by a mile,ruhls best o. placing was 5th,nassers was 2nd and he was top 5 lots of times,both are freeks though!
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: kiwiol on June 14, 2011, 06:21:03 PM
Nasser has the better track record, but Ruhl from that crazy NOC pic or even his 2004 Mr Olympia version would be pretty hard for Nasser to beat. Marcus won't be outmassed, his back is 200% better than Nasser's and structurally he's not as bad as Kovacs or even Paco.

 
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: supernick on June 14, 2011, 06:24:48 PM
Nasser was very impressive and consistent until 1998 or so. Ruhl in 2002 was insane though.

(http://www.ironfactor.cz/_upload/_images/9319_NOC2002.jpg)
This has got to be the freakiest bodybuilding pic of all time
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: JBGRAY on June 14, 2011, 06:28:00 PM
Ruhl by far the freakiest.  Nasser would fare better in a bodybuilding contest.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: the_swami on June 14, 2011, 06:38:26 PM
Nasser- no contest!

btw, i used to think Nasser was GH 15

after listening to Nasser's 2 latest interviews on VPX sports, shotgun radio episodes 13+14 i dont think Nasser is GH 15
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Royalty on June 14, 2011, 06:50:33 PM
If Marcus Ruhl did not tear his tricep during the summer of 2003; he would've taken 3rd in the '03 Olympia (behind Ronnie and Jay)

Nassers best physique could not touch Ruhl in 2002, 2003, and 2004.

Unlike Nasser; Ruhl's back was very wide and very thick.. Ruhl would've won all the back poses.

Ruhl would have won the front lat spread, side chest, most muscular, and front double Bicep

Nasser probably would win the side tricep. The Ab/thigh would be a tie.... Or if not, Ruhl would get the nod.

 
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: kiwiol on June 14, 2011, 06:52:50 PM
If Marcus Ruhl did not tear his tricep during the summer of 2003; he would've taken 3rd in the '03 Olympia (behind Ronnie and Jay)

Nassers best physique could not touch Ruhl in 2002, 2003, and 2004.

Unlike Nasser; Ruhl's back was very wide and very thick.. Ruhl would've won all the back poses.

Ruhl would have won the front lat spread, side chest, most muscular, and front double Bicep

Nasser probably would win the side tricep. The Ab/thigh would be a tie.... Or if not, Ruhl would get the nod.

 

Spot on.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: HugeAl on June 14, 2011, 07:15:28 PM
This is not even worthy of a comparison - and I like Ruhl. As bodybuilders they barely belong on the same stage. Peak Nasser was pure perfection: mass with good aesthetics, great conditioning, symmetry and harmonious overall development.

Markus was big and great fun but a world class bodybuilder, he was not.

Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Royalty on June 14, 2011, 07:36:52 PM
1999 British Grand Prix. Nasser won the Arnold earlier that year. Nasser was in his prime. this was Ruhl's 2nd year as a pro!! Ruhl is no where near his peak; yet he crushed Nasser
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: DK II on June 14, 2011, 07:39:46 PM
you gotta be nuts,, really

mr o top of the top ,,winner,, second place,, tight waist ...v taper,, wide delts,, what is there to compare? when was german marcus ever got into top o placing? dumb comparison friend

gh15 approved

Damn Nasser, it would be better to keep low profile for a while.  :o :o :o :o



































































Just kidding, DJ, didn't want to insult you.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: bladerunner on June 14, 2011, 07:46:03 PM
Nasser was very impressive and consistent until 1998 or so. Ruhl in 2002 was insane though.

(http://www.ironfactor.cz/_upload/_images/9319_NOC2002.jpg)

where is the neck?????? :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Skeletor on June 14, 2011, 07:48:03 PM
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1700/paigebb.jpg)
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: dyslexic on June 14, 2011, 08:02:06 PM
Why did the SJ's fuck up so bad in Nassers rear delt injections?


I mean, why did they get all infected and jizzed up? I understand hitting a vein or using a dirty needle, but why was it such a catrosphe for him? 


Not joking, really curious.

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/nasserreardelt.jpg)


Reminds me of Valvolino...

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/greg-valentino-abcess.jpg)


Maybe it was just the whole "abscess" thingy. Maybe plenty of guys get away with it. I usually just notice it in "bee-sting" side delts.


(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/carrottopsiteinjdelts.jpg)



I remembe seeing so many guys at the Sac and the Contra ABOUT 5 YEARS AGO - EVEYONE WAS DOIN IT- then tne judges decided to start marking down for it. Now its done more "tactfully" and deeper-not quite so obvious

Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Aerian on June 14, 2011, 08:57:16 PM


This right here would trump anything Nasser ever brought to the stage
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: gh15 on June 14, 2011, 09:20:29 PM
This right here would trump anything Nasser ever brought to the stage

backn in 90s,, every one on the stage could have be mr o ,, it wasa not only 1 fella,,everyone were extremly good,, no one from the 2000s would be able to do anything against the fellas from 90s,,our muscle was real ,,our muscle wasnt only blow up from the inside out ,,it was foundation that on top of that we had the hormones blowing it all up but the right way!

anabolics andddddddddddd then... gh in a moderate to mega dose usage with limited insulina

not mega dose gh mega dose insulina and then some anabolics lol


gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: BayGBM on June 14, 2011, 09:34:44 PM
Nasser was tier 1; Ruhl was tier 2  :)
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: SF1900 on June 14, 2011, 09:41:01 PM
Nasser was tier 1; Ruhl was tier 2  :)

Ruhl looks just as good in that pose as does Nasser. Ruhl tier 2? Hmmm, not too sure about that  :D
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Meso_z on June 14, 2011, 09:42:27 PM
Nasser during his prime..
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: BayGBM on June 14, 2011, 09:46:33 PM
Ruhl looks just as good in that pose as does Nasser. Ruhl tier 2? Hmmm, not too sure about that  :D

I am.  Tier 2 is still very respectable!
$3000- $4000 club (tier 2)
Atwood, D. Ball, K. Green, M. Kjellstrom, Z. Khan, Kovacs, J. Long, V. Martinez, Ruhl, Scholz,

but it's not tier 1!  ;)
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: SF1900 on June 14, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
I am.  Tier 2 is still very respectable!
$3000- $4000 club (tier 2)
Atwood, D. Ball, K. Green, M. Kjellstrom, Z. Khan, Kovacs, J. Long, V. Martinez, Ruhl, Scholz,

but it's not tier 1!  ;)

What makes one bodybuilder tier 1 and another bodybuilder tier 2? What tier would Goodrum fall under?  :D :D
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: bigbobs on June 14, 2011, 09:54:00 PM
I like Ruhl, but the minority here who think Ruhl > Nasser must also believe that the compeition during Ruhl's prime was much much more difficult than during Nasser's prime?  Why else are Nasser's top placings top tier while Ruhl's are second tier?

as gh15 said, mass with class:

Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: cross-of-iron on June 14, 2011, 10:08:35 PM
I like Ruhl, but the minority here who think Ruhl > Nasser must also believe that the compeition during Ruhl's prime was much much more difficult than during Nasser's prime?  Why else are Nasser's top placings top tier while Ruhl's are second tier?

as gh15 said, mass with class:



For holding that much size his stomach was tight. I miss the 90's.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: the_swami on June 14, 2011, 10:49:21 PM
again Nasser was and is still is the only 280 pound BB on stage, shredded with a tiny waist, no gut distension, great V taper , shape, symmetry+ aesthetics.

truly blazed a new trail that many tried to emulate but never could.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Nirvana on June 14, 2011, 10:55:36 PM
Nasser = greatest mass monster ever.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: closeline on June 15, 2011, 12:18:35 AM
ruhl was better in his prime

he had better structure AND was bigger (to give nasser his credits he was the real only massmonster combined with very good condition ecxept in the back )

nasser = way to short arms and legs, long torso (gives just illusion of flat abs) very big joints in addition to his wide but not thick and detailed back asare his main weaknesses

ruhl has certainly better pecs, shoulders, bis, back, quads

nasser had better abs (sometimes) and was always in good condition
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Kulutues on June 15, 2011, 12:28:06 AM
I never see any Ruhl or Nasser pics from behind...anyway both of them are terribly shaped BBers with inferior genetics, Nasser just looked because of his huge torso not any muscle
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Dr Kincaid on June 15, 2011, 02:11:14 AM
Ruhl.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: dogbowl on June 15, 2011, 02:42:59 AM
Ruhl in those 2002 pics beats anyone, ever.

But Nasser obviously had the better career, considering how well he did in the Olympias.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Tito24 on June 15, 2011, 02:57:17 AM
after the night of champions ruhl never looked good anymore. its just a drugs freak.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Dipadidu on June 15, 2011, 03:08:22 AM
nasser took much more synthol
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: closeline on June 15, 2011, 03:18:52 AM
I never see any Ruhl or Nasser pics from behind...anyway both of them are terribly shaped BBers with inferior genetics, Nasser just looked because of his huge torso not any muscle
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: closeline on June 15, 2011, 03:25:09 AM
after the night of champions ruhl never looked good anymore. its just a drugs freak.

imo in 2004 he looked quite good
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: JP_RC on June 15, 2011, 07:09:39 AM
both sucked.  :-\
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: DK II on June 15, 2011, 07:10:17 AM
both sucked.  :-\

x100000
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: local hero on June 15, 2011, 08:22:00 AM
ruhl even had synthol in his lower traps!!!... check the pic in blue shorts above..... :o
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: BIG_STI on June 15, 2011, 08:23:17 AM


Last pic looks like oil in his traps
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Kulutues on June 15, 2011, 09:00:04 AM
And that is why you never see any Ruhl pics from behind...he looks like a normal guy with fake muscles implanted everywhere, not saying Nasser's shape is very much better
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Aerian on June 15, 2011, 09:02:10 AM
backn in 90s,, every one on the stage could have be mr o ,, it wasa not only 1 fella,,everyone were extremly good,, no one from the 2000s would be able to do anything against the fellas from 90s,,our muscle was real ,,our muscle wasnt only blow up from the inside out ,,it was foundation that on top of that we had the hormones blowing it all up but the right way!

anabolics andddddddddddd then... gh in a moderate to mega dose usage with limited insulina

not mega dose gh mega dose insulina and then some anabolics lol


gh15 approved

I agree 100% but that doesn't change the fact that the Ruhl that was posted above is one of the most impressive physiques to ever step on stage and as much as i like Nasser, i think he would still lose side by side against the 2002 NOC version of Ruhl.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: GroinkTropin on June 15, 2011, 09:15:33 AM
I am.  Tier 2 is still very respectable!
$3000- $4000 club (tier 2)
Atwood, D. Ball, K. Green, M. Kjellstrom, Z. Khan, Kovacs, J. Long, V. Martinez, Ruhl, Scholz,

but it's not tier 1!  ;)

HOW DARE YOU LUMP KAI AND VICTOR WITH THE REST OF THESE CLOWNS

BOTH ARE TIER 1

UPDATE YOUR FRIGGIN LIST
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: delta9mda on June 15, 2011, 09:31:03 AM
Dorian killed them both.  :P
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Playboy on June 15, 2011, 11:32:54 AM
Prime ruhl vs. prime nasser.

Who is better..

Discuss.
Both loaded with Synthol.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: mossel on June 15, 2011, 11:44:16 AM
Gunter wins!
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: gh15 on June 15, 2011, 11:57:36 AM
I agree 100% but that doesn't change the fact that the Ruhl that was posted above is one of the most impressive physiques to ever step on stage and as much as i like Nasser, i think he would still lose side by side against the 2002 NOC version of Ruhl.

it is impressive picture yes,,but breautiful man with glases if you ever met the fella... in prime....no one came even close to the size and condition ,,not even ron ,,ron had better freaky muscle shape,,but no one was beautiful man with glases lean size ,,NO ONE,,and tight flat FLAT midsection ,,mean at 280+ midsection was as flat as 200-210 lb competitors,,i suggest you show me today ONE fella that can go up 70lb and midsection look so flat tight and conditioned,,

beside whom ever stood next to dorian and ron ... and placed top o and left behind chiwaway ,,and kevin ,,and many more,,is MUCH MUCH btter than german macrus,,german marcus was freak like pacotita ,,freak of respond to hormone both products and doses which were huge... but to have symetry and condition ,,balance and perfection ,,takes some work and takes to be BORN with ,, to this day the only mr o that is missing from the chart is beautiful man with glases,, the truly one who is missing ,,chiwawa maybe,, maybe him too,, this can never be forgoton dorian was great bodybuild but few times it should have been taken by chiwawa and beautiful man with glases,,kevin could have take it too if his legs werre up at the beggining of 2000s  but he let them slide,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: AGB on June 15, 2011, 05:39:17 PM
Nasser was very impressive and consistent until 1998 or so. Ruhl in 2002 was insane though.

(http://www.ironfactor.cz/_upload/_images/9319_NOC2002.jpg)

All IL-15.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Aerian on June 16, 2011, 02:20:01 PM
it is impressive picture yes,,but breautiful man with glases if you ever met the fella... in prime....no one came even close to the size and condition ,,not even ron ,,ron had better freaky muscle shape,,but no one was beautiful man with glases lean size ,,NO ONE,,and tight flat FLAT midsection ,,mean at 280+ midsection was as flat as 200-210 lb competitors,,i suggest you show me today ONE fella that can go up 70lb and midsection look so flat tight and conditioned,,

beside whom ever stood next to dorian and ron ... and placed top o and left behind chiwaway ,,and kevin ,,and many more,,is MUCH MUCH btter than german macrus,,german marcus was freak like pacotita ,,freak of respond to hormone both products and doses which were huge... but to have symetry and condition ,,balance and perfection ,,takes some work and takes to be BORN with ,, to this day the only mr o that is missing from the chart is beautiful man with glases,, the truly one who is missing ,,chiwawa maybe,, maybe him too,, this can never be forgoton dorian was great bodybuild but few times it should have been taken by chiwawa and beautiful man with glases,,kevin could have take it too if his legs werre up at the beggining of 2000s  but he let them slide,,

gh15 approved

Wow, that is some real admiration you have for Nasser there.


I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder lol
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: bigbobs on June 16, 2011, 03:20:38 PM
Wow, that is some real admiration you have for Nasser there.


I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder lol

Yes, and gh15 is a more qualified beholder than you ;)
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Don_Dada on June 16, 2011, 05:08:07 PM
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=37755&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)

Nasser never owned Dillett Half as hard as Ruhl did in 1999 @ NOC. Dillett hated NYC for years after this contest. He foolishly stated that he let his hate go after terrorists attacked NYC on 9/11 2001. Im serious. He actually said that!

Paraphrase: "NY had a tough year, so Did I, so I figured that I'd Put an end the feud".

Dillett.... What a loser
 
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: quadzilla456 on June 16, 2011, 05:48:06 PM
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=37755&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)

Nasser never owned Dillett Half as hard as Ruhl did in 1999 @ NOC. Dillett hated NYC for years after this contest. He foolishly stated that he let his hate go after terrorists attacked NYC on 9/11 2001. Im serious. He actually said that!

Paraphrase: "NY had a tough year, so Did I, so I figured that I'd Put an end the feud".

Dillett.... What a loser
 

Damn, Ruhl is owning Dillet - makes him look small. Even his calves are bigger.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Skeletor on June 16, 2011, 07:16:31 PM
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=37755&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)

Nasser never owned Dillett Half as hard as Ruhl did in 1999 @ NOC. Dillett hated NYC for years after this contest. He foolishly stated that he let his hate go after terrorists attacked NYC on 9/11 2001. Im serious. He actually said that!

Paraphrase: "NY had a tough year, so Did I, so I figured that I'd Put an end the feud".

Dillett.... What a loser
 

Few, if any, could stand next to Dillet and not look like dwarves. Ruhl dwarfs him. Insane picture.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: BILL ANVIL on June 17, 2011, 07:24:28 PM
I can't believe Ruhl makes Paul look that small, just insane. I regret not ever seem him in person, must of been a sight to see.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: littlechris on June 17, 2011, 07:33:31 PM
This has got to be the freakiest bodybuilding pic of all time

I agree!!!!!!!!! But Nasser was more consistent.

-C
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: gh15 on June 17, 2011, 09:51:45 PM
Few, if any, could stand next to Dillet and not look like dwarves. Ruhl dwarfs him. Insane picture.

yes,,but he also dwarf him in the waist department,,his is larger waist... remember bodybuild is mesured by the waist too,,actualy waist used to be the second or third most important thing after back,,only now day its becoming a joke


gh15 approved
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Meso_z on June 17, 2011, 09:59:40 PM
Nasser was more of a bber/mass monster while Ruhl is just a mass monster. Nasser had better lines, more complete.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Omega on June 18, 2011, 04:26:03 AM
All IL-15.

Indeed what I have heard as well.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: BayGBM on June 18, 2011, 05:43:27 AM
I agree!!!!!!!!! But Nasser was more consistent.

-C

Way more consistent.  Ruhl looked good for about 15 minutes; Nasser looked good for days!  As I said before, Nasser is tier 1, Ruhl is tier 2.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: ChristopherA on June 18, 2011, 06:58:28 AM
ruhl was better in his prime

he had better structure AND was bigger (to give nasser his credits he was the real only massmonster combined with very good condition ecxept in the back )

nasser = way to short arms and legs, long torso (gives just illusion of flat abs) very big joints in addition to his wide but not thick and detailed back asare his main weaknesses

ruhl has certainly better pecs, shoulders, bis, back, quads

nasser had better abs (sometimes) and was always in good condition

You either have flat trimmed abs or you dont and Marcus waiste was HUGE. He loses. Not even on Nasser's level really. Marcus all blown up and oiled out. Almost no lines in shoulders, just giant beach balls flowing into oiled arms. Gross blown out gut. Even when ripped he looked soft. Nasser is quality muscle and a hell of a lot of it. Even with his GIANT GUT marcus did have a taper and isnt that what we kill guys for today? Just overcoming shitty structure with tons of drugs? Nasser=Mr.O > Marcus= Circus freak Mr. O
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Don_Dada on June 18, 2011, 12:45:39 PM
You either have flat trimmed abs or you dont and Marcus waiste was HUGE. He loses. Not even on Nasser's level really. Marcus all blown up and oiled out. Almost no lines in shoulders, just giant beach balls flowing into oiled arms. Gross blown out gut. Even when ripped he looked soft. Nasser is quality muscle and a hell of a lot of it. Even with his GIANT GUT marcus did have a taper and isnt that what we kill guys for today? Just overcoming shitty structure with tons of drugs? Nasser=Mr.O > Marcus= Circus freak Mr. O

I think these sad pics of Nasser negate your opinion

(http://www.bodybuildinglive.com/articles/2002_olympia/prejudge_men_nasser.jpg)

(http://artsyspot.com/img/weird/synthol-victims/synthol-victims52.jpg)
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Kulutues on June 19, 2011, 12:11:37 PM
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=37755&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)

Nasser never owned Dillett Half as hard as Ruhl did in 1999 @ NOC. Dillett hated NYC for years after this contest. He foolishly stated that he let his hate go after terrorists attacked NYC on 9/11 2001. Im serious. He actually said that!

Paraphrase: "NY had a tough year, so Did I, so I figured that I'd Put an end the feud".

Dillett.... What a loser
 

Hello camera on the ground, Ruhl's best product wasn't ever as good as Paul's early showings, besides Ruhl's physique was just a fake oily mess, looked like a clown, Branch esque

(http://forum.ronnie.cz/images/uploads/img_1249637673_2.jpg)

Really puts the relative smallness of Nasser's legs in perspective

(http://forum.ronnie.cz/images/uploads/img_1249637673_1.jpg)

Dillett smiling: "I win huh huh (breathing) handsome man."  Nasser: "what arabians call black people?"
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 19, 2011, 04:45:28 PM
Prime ruhl vs. prime nasser.

Who is better..

Discuss.

  Crab shot and back lat spread - Ruhl hands down

  Everything else - Nasser

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 19, 2011, 05:38:23 PM
Ruhl annihilates nassoil, no question, he's leaps and bounds bigger then nasser
 
way better shape and symmetry too
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Royalty on June 19, 2011, 05:50:25 PM
  Crab shot and back lat spread - Ruhl hands down

  Everything else - Nasser

SUCKMYMUSCLE

side chest goes to RUHL

(http://www.bmsshop.de/images/berichte/006.jpg)
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Skeletor on June 19, 2011, 07:42:48 PM


(http://forum.ronnie.cz/images/uploads/img_1249637673_1.jpg)


Dillet looks weird here, small traps and long-ish neck.
A shame he never learned how to pose (and train hard).
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Meso_z on June 19, 2011, 09:23:18 PM
Dillet looks weird here, small traps and long-ish neck.
A shame he never learned how to pose (and train hard).
Well, there is an explanation.

He rarely, if ever, trained traps.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: tbombz on June 19, 2011, 09:27:09 PM
fuck


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=384095.0;attach=417208)


 :o
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Doug_Steele on June 19, 2011, 09:31:42 PM
fuck


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=384095.0;attach=417208)


 :o

Going for the health look.  ;)
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: io856 on June 19, 2011, 09:39:28 PM
fuck


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=384095.0;attach=417208)


 :o
holy shit haaha
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on June 22, 2011, 06:11:36 AM
this pic. is from GP 1999 and nasser was faraway from his best while ruhl was close to his best.. doesn't need a professional eye to know how nasser had a much better God given physique,.. shape, proportions,.. symmetry (with its 2 meanings)!!..
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Parker on June 22, 2011, 06:20:03 AM
fuck


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=384095.0;attach=417208)


 :o
Actually, no...look at the way he holds his pose. When you put your knuckles together like that, it gives the illusion of width, by pushing the elbows out further than the shoulders, and at the same time pushes the shoulder girdle out. He is the only one that does thar pose like thar---because if he did the clasping wrist one, the illusion is gone...

No one else does that pose like that, and you'd be hard pressed to find a Ruhl pic where he does a clasping wrist (like Levrone, Dillett, Phil Heath, Nasser, CC, Dorian, Ronnie, SR---there are pics of them doing the clasping wrist pose)
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: blackpele on June 22, 2011, 07:27:02 AM
This has got to be the freakiest bodybuilding pic of all time

Agree
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2011, 07:29:33 AM
Prime ruhl vs. prime nasser.

Who is better..

Discuss.

Nasser vs. Shawn Ray would be better.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Doug_Steele on June 22, 2011, 10:26:20 AM
Nasser vs. Shawn Ray would be better.

Who could run the 40 faster Ruhl or Nasser?  ??? ???

I got Ruhl in 48.6  :D
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2011, 10:31:19 AM
Who could run the 40 faster Ruhl or Nasser?  ??? ???

I got Ruhl in 48.6  :D

minutes
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Doug_Steele on June 22, 2011, 10:32:54 AM
minutes

Yep. And struggling to make it also.  :D
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Kulutues on June 22, 2011, 12:45:48 PM
this pic. is from GP 1999 and nasser was faraway from his best while ruhl was close to his best.. doesn't need a professional eye to know how nasser had a much better God given physique,.. shape, proportions,.. symmetry (with its 2 meanings)!!..

Not really...huge waist, small legs/combo of the two
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on June 22, 2011, 12:53:55 PM
Ruhl couldn't hold Nasser's joke. Plus doesn't Ruhl play the skin flute?
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Royalty on June 22, 2011, 06:00:00 PM
In all honesty, when Nasser competed against Ruhl; Ruhl usually placed higher.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 22, 2011, 06:05:48 PM
Nasser was very impressive and consistent until 1998 or so. Ruhl in 2002 was insane though.

(http://www.ironfactor.cz/_upload/_images/9319_NOC2002.jpg)

I was at that show.  Paco Bautista also looked insane. 
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Royalty on June 22, 2011, 06:13:55 PM
Actually, no...look at the way he holds his pose. When you put your knuckles together like that, it gives the illusion of width, by pushing the elbows out further than the shoulders, and at the same time pushes the shoulder girdle out. He is the only one that does thar pose like thar---because if he did the clasping wrist one, the illusion is gone...

No one else does that pose like that, and you'd be hard pressed to find a Ruhl pic where he does a clasping wrist (like Levrone, Dillett, Phil Heath, Nasser, CC, Dorian, Ronnie, SR---there are pics of them doing the clasping wrist pose)

legit


(http://www.all-stars.es/Portals/0/Shared/2009/News/ES-02/Ruehl/Markus-Ruehl_de_Mini_Mini.jpg)
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on June 22, 2011, 06:22:18 PM
In all honesty, when Nasser competed against Ruhl; Ruhl usually placed higher.

i think the first time they competed together was in 1999 and although nasser was not anything close to his best he beat ruhl in many shows in 1999 and 2000.. ruhl only beat him at mr. olympia 2002 which was one of nasser's worst shows ever..

conclusion:

- ruhl could beat nasser only when nasser was at his very worst condition..
- ruhl could not beat nasser in 1999/2000 although nasser was about 60% only of his best..
- they never competed in nasser's best days but seriously if they did it was not going to be even close!!.. i don't think ruhl could place in the top six at any olympia in the 90s!!..
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 22, 2011, 06:24:42 PM
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=GWTLQYt2umQ



Awesome clip.   Enjoy.  Talk about good lighting! 
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 22, 2011, 06:40:49 PM
i think the first time they competed together was in 1999 and although nasser was not anything close to his best he beat ruhl in many shows in 1999 and 2000.. ruhl only beat him at mr. olympia 2002 which was one of nasser's worst shows ever..

conclusion:

- ruhl could beat nasser only when nasser was at his very worst condition..
- ruhl could not beat nasser in 1999/2000 although nasser was about 60% only of his best..
- they never competed in nasser's best days but seriously if they did it was not going to be even close!!.. i don't think ruhl could place in the top six at any olympia in the 90s!!..

You ever thought that maybe those placings happened because Ruhl was a rookie who hadn't paid his dues and Nasshole just came off being 3rd at the olympia, you really think they wouldn't give him higher placing?
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on June 22, 2011, 07:44:26 PM
You ever thought that maybe those placings happened because Ruhl was a rookie who hadn't paid his dues and Nasshole just came off being 3rd at the olympia, you really think they wouldn't give him higher placing?

levrone was a rookie in 92 and wheeler was a rokkie in 93!!..

i agree ruhl didnt take what he deserved at more than one occasion but still his physiques naturally lacked what it takes to be one of the very top!!..
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 22, 2011, 08:02:59 PM
levrone was a rookie in 92 and wheeler was a rokkie in 93!!..

i agree ruhl didnt take what he deserved at more than one occasion but still his physiques naturally lacked what it takes to be one of the very top!!..

Just like Nasser's lacked what it took to be Mr.Olympia :)

and stop with that uncrowned bullshit, nasser will be forever bitter like mentzer who drove himself nuts because he didn't win.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on June 22, 2011, 09:01:02 PM
Just like Nasser's lacked what it took to be Mr.Olympia :)

and stop with that uncrowned bullshit, nasser will be forever bitter like mentzer who drove himself nuts because he didn't win.


i didnt say ruhl did have what it takes to be mr. olympia,.. i said he didnt have what it takes to be one of the best and there is a very big difference.. on the other hand even if you see nasser didnt deserve to win any olympia still you cant argue he was one of the very best in his best days!!..
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: gcb on June 22, 2011, 09:24:09 PM
both freaky - ruhl probably the bigger freak - nasser was probably better at lighter weights - the heavier he got the more like a marshmallow he became - especially from the back.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: closeline on June 23, 2011, 04:01:50 AM
both freaky - ruhl probably the bigger freak - nasser was probably better at lighter weights - the heavier he got the more like a marshmallow he became - especially from the back.

markus was bigger - no question the biggest freak out there

and regarding placings, markus was robbed more than every other BB ever
1999 NOC was his show
2000 NCO he was better than cutler
2004 he was 2nd to ronnie at the olympia
2006 he was the legit winner of the austrian pro beating cutler and coleman

if makus is at more than 90 percent of his best, only coleman can really beat him, cutler NEVER NEVER NEVER


so if he would have been given al his well earnde wins, nobody would doubt that he was the better bb than nasser

nasser on his own was neverer robbed, 1997 dorian severly crushed him in all back poses
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Karpaasi on June 23, 2011, 07:34:19 AM
Great post closeline.

Markus was underrated in the judges eyes. He also had bad luck with the injuries later on in his carrier. I was so happy to see him win the NOC and two years later place fifth at the Olympia. He was owning people at the challenge round.

Nasser was the man 1995-1998. Four years in a row at the top-3 at the Olympia. It was sad to see him fade away.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 23, 2011, 07:39:18 AM
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: BILL ANVIL on June 23, 2011, 01:49:27 PM
Just like Nasser's lacked what it took to be Mr.Olympia :)

and stop with that uncrowned bullshit, nasser will be forever bitter like mentzer who drove himself nuts because he didn't win.


You've just proven that your completely biased so your opinion holds no weight at all. If you clearly didnt hate Nasser and thought of this as a physique contest and not a persona contest, you would have a valid opinion but you do not.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Skeletor on June 23, 2011, 06:24:32 PM


 :o

Great video, the lighting on that show was amazing. And almost everyone had great conditioning.
Title: Re: Ruhl vs. nasser
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 23, 2011, 06:29:49 PM
Chic looked good there too.