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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/24/gay-marriage-headed-to-vote-on-ny-senate-floor/
question is what will gays demand next?
they wont stop the demand as the gay rights groups need to continue raising money, question is whats next?
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/24/gay-marriage-headed-to-vote-on-ny-senate-floor/
question is what will gays demand next?
they wont stop the demand as the gay rights groups need to continue raising money, question is whats next?
Great news
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you don't think gays should marry?
???
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Yankees are funny..... NY, Vermont, Mass.....
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i think people should do whatever they want but this whole making laws for gays etc is not right
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question is what will gays demand next?
You tell us, sugartits.
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Yankees are funny..... NY, Vermont, Mass.....
don't you think it's odd for a black man in the south to say that a certain minority group in the US doesn't deserve equal legal rights?
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They will allow that but not the ufc ::) Fuck NYS worst state to live in. Bunch of liberal pansy ass fags.
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They will allow that but not the ufc ::) Fuck NYS worst state to live in. Bunch of liberal pansy ass fags.
Because the UFC is gayer than gay marriage.
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They will allow that but not the ufc ::) Fuck NYS worst state to live in. Bunch of liberal pansy ass fags.
Come to the corner of 1-4-5 & St. Nick and say that shit, redneck.
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The f.a.g.s. will be partying hard throughout the city tonight. Glad I didn't make plans for a night on the town...I don't want to see that shit. ::)
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Come to the corner of 1-4-5 & St. Nick and say that shit, redneck.
I will throw a fucken moltov cocktail on your corner gay boy.
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Wait till these twinks learn about divorce court, alimony, maintenance, child support etc.
Ha ha ha. These fags are going to rue the day they asked for this.
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Wait till these twinks learn about divorce court, alimony, maintenance, child support etc.
Ha ha ha. These fags are going to rue the day they asked for this.
this is stupid
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They will allow that but not the ufc ::) Fuck NYS worst state to live in. Bunch of liberal pansy ass fags.
True. I live here. Leftist he'll hole.
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The f.a.g.s. will be partying hard throughout the city tonight. Glad I didn't make plans for a night on the town...I don't want to see that shit. ::)
I should learn matrimonial law now since tons of divorces will occur about a year from now.
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gayer than kissing your boyfriend in bed
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this is stupid
My gf is a divorce lawyer. Tons of new business coming her way in 6 months to a year.
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Come to the corner of 1-4-5 & St. Nick and say that shit, redneck.
what will u do if he comes there? spray him with ky jelly? throw your pink thong at him? or simply bend over and show him your ahole thats bigger than your already huge left pointing mouth?
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True. I live here. Leftist he'll hole.
Why don't you leave then PEA BRAIN? Oh yeah, you can't afford it. :P
Some of us getbiggers can contribute to get you bus fare to the CT border. PM me for details.
You still coming out of your hovel to meet Lurker next week with your credentials from Manhattan College and Pace Law, PEA BRAIN?
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Why don't you leave then PEA BRAIN? Oh yeah, you can't afford it. :P
Some of us getbiggers can contribute to get you bus fare to the CT border. PM me for details.
You still coming out of your hovel to meet Lurker next week with your credentials from Manhattan College and Pace Law, PEA BRAIN?
Going to Cali tomorrow for a week. As far as the twinks go I plan on laughing at them on this. Divorce court is going to make their asses real raw.
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The f.a.g.s. will be partying hard throughout the city tonight.
and all so they can attempt to convince themselves that they're normal + "born this way". ::) sad really what they do to one another seeking male affirmation their fathers withheld. one in every three homos has ingested feces. :-X
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My gf is a divorce lawyer. Tons of new business coming her way in 6 months to a year.
You have no evidence for this. Just because they're gay doesn't mean that they will all get a divorce in 6 months to a year.
And I doubt you have a gf.
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As far as the twinks go I plan on laughing at them on this. Divorce court is going to make their asses real raw.
The real winners here are the GOP, whose job for 2012 just got that much easier.
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Going to Cali tomorrow for a week.
haahahahahahaahahaha Is this the excuse you gave to Lurker? Oh, brother...we know your sorry ass isn't leaving the Bronx. ::)
PATHETIC
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You have no evidence for this. Just because they're gay doesn't mean that they will all get a divorce in 6 months to a year.
And I doubt you have a gf.
50 percent will divorce.
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50 percent will divorce.
the same as heterosexual couples? ???
So you don't think anybody should marry anybody because 50% of people divorce?
what is your point?
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the same as heterosexual couples? ???
So you don't think anybody should marry anybody because 50% of people divorce?
what is your point?
Not at all. I'm just saying. Gays might live to regret this.
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Not at all. I'm just saying. Gays might live to regret this.
not all gays. Only 50%. And not all of those who get divorced will regret the right to marry.
I still don't understand your point.
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Same sex and transgender couples have a right to be legally recognized as couples by the state, aka marriage!!!
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Same sex and transgender couples have a right to be legally recognized as couples by the state, aka marriage!!!
Outed ::)
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I would like to pass my warmest congratulations to Johnnynoname ;D
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Bay likeyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!! ::)
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/24/gay-marriage-headed-to-vote-on-ny-senate-floor/
question is what will gays demand next?
they wont stop the demand as the gay rights groups need to continue raising money, question is whats next?
equality bro equality
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Bay likeyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!! ::)
You must be gay for thinking about him. You can't use that slogan unless you must be gay and thinking about him. ::)
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Congratulations New York homosexuals, too bad this didn't happen someplace warmer for you guys.
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JimmyJam1972 just pmed me a wedding proposal. So exciting!
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Don't worry chunk....its going to get warm for them reaal quick!
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Coach is moving to New York. So exciting!
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Sorry gimmick, my plans are for Guam or Hawaii.
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Ah, you like the big island studs. small men often do.
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Just say the word gimmick and I can start by exposing you with another account of yours that's been verified by other mods and the man himself.
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i don't believe you cooch.
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LOL....really? Give everyone here one piece of knowledge you think you know about now about me that I haven't mentioned on here before. Go for it gimmick or rather "jun".
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LOL....really? Give everyone here one piece of knowledge you think you know about now about me that I haven't mentioned on here before. Go for it gimmick or rather "jun".
Coach how much an hour for training plz, i can save up.
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You must be gay for thinking about him. You can't use that slogan unless you must be gay and thinking about him. ::)
hahahaha :D. Everything in "Bays" own little rainbow world is gay.
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Great.
More business for everyone.
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Shall do as they please. Normal gay folks are like all other folks, it's the fags that are annoying.
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It's a small minority of the cliched stereotype that's gives a negative image to the whole group. Because these are the type that most can obviously see are gay, so people tend to think all are like this.
The vast majority are quite discreet about it and you most likely would never guess they were gay if you saw them or spoke to them.
That's exactly the impression I got from the ones I've met.
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I would like to pass my warmest congratulations to Johnnynoname ;D
LOL. Do you know where he's registered? Maybe we can get him something. I'm thinking a nice china pattern, or maybe some JCVD flatware.
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It's a small minority of the cliched stereotype that's gives a negative image to the whole group. Because these are the type that most can obviously see are gay, so people tend to think all are like this.
The vast majority are quite discreet about it and you most likely would never guess they were gay if you saw them or spoke to them.
reminds me of the joke
its 99% of lawyers that give the other 1% a bad name
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homosexuals ultimately follow a logic of death. It will take time before mankind realizes that but at some point it will be obvious. I feel for the millions of kids who will be adopted and raised by homosexuals and who as a result will become sexually and socially dysfunctionnal individuals who will be at war with heterosexuals.
Homosexuals, like religious people, muslims for example, are hateful and want to convert everyone to their own illness. They using Political correctness and are victimizing themselves using exactly the same kind of strategies muslims do for example. Make no mistake, being homosexual is the result of the separation of parents as are all the behavorial and cognitive troubles occuring in humans. It cannot become a new paradigm / way of life for everyone. Family, heterosexuality and parents accepting their gender and responsabilities and tasks linked to these genders, work, education, studies, are still the only way to reach a state of hapiness that doesnt hurt anyone else. You do not find peace of mind in homosexuality, as it is a logic of death. I have no problems with homosexuals who dont have kids or stay away from kids, accepting their difference and somehow recognizing there is something wrong with the way they live. As long as they dont hurt or try to convert gullible people to their behavior i have no problems with them. The problem is with the increasing number of them who wants to raise kids.
Girls raised by non caring mother become homosexuals, men raised by non caring fathers become homosexuals. Girls and boys raised by caring fathers and mothers become heterosexuals.
Just another experience that is going to turn wrong before we figure what really matters and benefit to everyone.
There is nothing peaceful in the way these people gain ground and attempt to convert/assimilate people and especially youths or mentally unstable persons
to their ideology, because that's what we re talking about here. Minorities that want to become majorities always have an agenda. They are more and more targeting male and female teens whose parents have separated and telling them that their suffering is because they are homosexuals when in fact these kids suffer of the conflictual separation of their parents which shatters the development of their personnalities. Most homosexuals have become homosexuals because they had troubled relationships with absent or violent fathers. Basically a bad thing cannot generate a good thing. These boys and girls need fathers, not to "choose" homosexuality as a coping mechanism to their psychological suffering.
Fathers abandonning their sons and daughters are responsible ultimately for the mental confusion of their offsprings and their psychological suffering. Fathers abandonning kids murder the family, their psychism and their development, and lead to kids, teens and adults to potentially try to find solace in an homosexual relationships to counterbalance the lack of original love from the father.
Homosexuals are attempting thru medias, movies, and ad campaigns to make homosexuality cool and to lure teens with psychological troubles related to their parents separation more and more. They know what they are doing and how to use tools at their advantage. But these are sick people who share their sickness with other people to make themselves better about their own condition.
Most of them are also often on anti depressants all life long which says a lot about their true state of so called "pride and hapiness".
Also, more and more groups of EX-homosexuals are spawning nowadays, which sheds a new light on the so called "complete state of freedom" homosexuality is suposed to bring to the masses.
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The fag can now make marry but the real man can not do luta livre in the newyork. These ease the boolsheet.fuck to you governor Homo
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That's exactly the impression I got from the ones I've met.
That is because the discreet ones know there is something deeply wrong with their behavior and still didnt figure why they acting that way. They know there s something they re missing and do not think they should try to convert everyone else to their own problems. Other who pretend that homosexuality is the new normality are a danger, the way they promote their paradigm is scary. To them, not being homosexual is actually abnormal. They are a danger, especially when they work in schools, universities, medias, near kids, teens etc.
Let's do not forget homosexuality first appears amongst teens during adolescence most of the time when parents are in conflict and that the male and female personnalities of their mother and father ar at war in their psyche. They have to take side for either mom or dad which leads to the split of personality. Add to these phenomenons materialism, consumerism, hedonism , competition and the death of religious values and you obtain our modern societies. We are producing homosexuals and schyzophrens with the way our societies have developed out of control.
A kid is only the sum of the problems parents, grand parents have and that have been transmitted directly right in his psyche. We are only the sum of what precedes us. It means kids dont have problems, parents have, and kids are impregnated with these influences, wether they re bad or good.
Homosexuality in boys and girls always have an origin deeply rooted in the troubled past relationships between their genitors / grand parents.
You do not solve a problem by generating another problem. Homosexuality is a problem that is generated by a problem; the conflictual separation of genitors during childhood or adolescence. It is acquired, not genetical.
Thanks god there are still naturally normal, strong, heterosexual, educated families with values who truly love life and understand loyalty and the generationnal process while a growing number of humans are getting lost, lured in our modern societies by all the traps they ve created.
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That is because the discreet ones know there is something deeply wrong with their behavior and still didnt figure why they acting that way. They know there s something they re missing and do not think they should try to convert everyone else to their own problems. Other who pretend that homosexuality is the new normality are a danger, the way they promote their paradigm is scary. To them, not being homosexual is actually abnormal. They are a danger, especially when they work in schools, universities, medias, near kids, teens etc.
Let's do not forget homosexuality first appears amongst teens during adolescence most of the time when parents are in conflict and that the male and female personnalities of their mother and father ar at war in their psyche. They have to take side for either mom or dad which leads to the split of personality. Add to these phenomenons materialism, consumerism, hedonism , competition and the death of religious values and you obtain our modern societies. We are producing homosexuals and schyzophrens with the way our societies have developed out of control.
A kid is only the sum of the problems parents, grand parents have and that have been transmitted directly right in his psyche. We are only the sum of what precedes us. It means kids dont have problems, parents have, and kids are impregnated with these influences, wether they re bad or good.
Homosexuality in boys and girls always have an origin deeply rooted in the troubled past relationships between their genitors / grand parents.
You do not solve a problem by generating another problem. Homosexuality is a problem that is generated by a problem; the conflictual separation of gennitors during childhood or adolescence.
Thanks god their are still normal strong, heterosexual, educated families with values who truly love life and understand loyalty and the generationnal process while a growing number of humans are getting lost, lured in our modern societies by all the traps they ve created.
Sorta like the 'be like me...or else' trap you've described here as the norm?
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I will throw a fucken moltov cocktail on your corner gay boy.
blah, who wants to go to harlem. No one there worth the effort
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blah, who wants to go to harlem. No one there worth the effort
A whole lot of people are going to Harlem, RacistMom. It's one of the main parts of Manhattan undergoing gentrification.
You're just mad because you know they will chase your UGLY ass out of the neighborhood. ;)
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A whole lot of people are going to Harlem, RacistMom. It's one of the main parts of Manhattan undergoing gentrification.
You're just mad because you know they will chase your UGLY ass out of the neighborhood. ;)
um zippy, been to harlem plenty of times. It was a joke, harlem is a okay in my book. Trust me, living in the LES for years was the best
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A whole lot of people are going to Harlem, RacistMom. It's one of the main parts of Manhattan undergoing gentrification.
Do you think she has a clue what you're talking about?
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Do you think she has a clue what you're talking about?
no
I only lived in the LES for 5 years and E. Rutherford NJ for 3
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The fag can now make marry but the real man can not do luta livre in the newyork. These ease the boolsheet.fuck to you governor Homo
lol
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/24/gay-marriage-headed-to-vote-on-ny-senate-floor/
question is what will gays demand next?
they wont stop the demand as the gay rights groups need to continue raising money, question is whats next?
Who cares..? If two men want to love each other in the privacy of their own home,why should that bother anyone?.
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The fag can now make marry but the real man can not do luta livre in the newyork. These ease the boolsheet.fuck to you governor Homo
do any of you see how funny this is goddamn it?!
this is fucking hilarious?!
laugh you pieces of shit!!!
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homosexuals ultimately follow a logic of death. It will take time before mankind realizes that but at some point it will be obvious. I feel for the millions of kids who will be adopted and raised by homosexuals and who as a result will become sexually and socially dysfunctionnal individuals who will be at war with heterosexuals.
Homosexuals, like religious people, muslims for example, are hateful and want to convert everyone to their own illness. They using Political correctness and are victimizing themselves using exactly the same kind of strategies muslims do for example. Make no mistake, being homosexual is the result of the separation of parents as are all the behavorial and cognitive troubles occuring in humans. It cannot become a new paradigm / way of life for everyone. Family, heterosexuality and parents accepting their gender and responsabilities and tasks linked to these genders, work, education, studies, are still the only way to reach a state of hapiness that doesnt hurt anyone else. You do not find peace of mind in homosexuality, as it is a logic of death. I have no problems with homosexuals who dont have kids or stay away from kids, accepting their difference and somehow recognizing there is something wrong with the way they live. As long as they dont hurt or try to convert gullible people to their behavior i have no problems with them. The problem is with the increasing number of them who wants to raise kids.
Girls raised by non caring mother become homosexuals, men raised by non caring fathers become homosexuals. Girls and boys raised by caring fathers and mothers become heterosexuals.
Just another experience that is going to turn wrong before we figure what really matters and benefit to everyone.
There is nothing peaceful in the way these people gain ground and attempt to convert/assimilate people and especially youths or mentally unstable persons
to their ideology, because that's what we re talking about here. Minorities that want to become majorities always have an agenda. They are more and more targeting male and female teens whose parents have separated and telling them that their suffering is because they are homosexuals when in fact these kids suffer of the conflictual separation of their parents which shatters the development of their personnalities. Most homosexuals have become homosexuals because they had troubled relationships with absent or violent fathers. Basically a bad thing cannot generate a good thing. These boys and girls need fathers, not to "choose" homosexuality as a coping mechanism to their psychological suffering.
Fathers abandonning their sons and daughters are responsible ultimately for the mental confusion of their offsprings and their psychological suffering. Fathers abandonning kids murder the family, their psychism and their development, and lead to kids, teens and adults to potentially try to find solace in an homosexual relationships to counterbalance the lack of original love from the father.
Homosexuals are attempting thru medias, movies, and ad campaigns to make homosexuality cool and to lure teens with psychological troubles related to their parents separation more and more. They know what they are doing and how to use tools at their advantage. But these are sick people who share their sickness with other people to make themselves better about their own condition.
Most of them are also often on anti depressants all life long which says a lot about their true state of so called "pride and hapiness".
Also, more and more groups of EX-homosexuals are spawning nowadays, which sheds a new light on the so called "complete state of freedom" homosexuality is suposed to bring to the masses.
can you please talk about how Christianity brain washes the poor and uneducated ?
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Why do you stupid fucks care if gays get married or not?
It has no effect on you what so ever. If some queens want to go through some useless ceremony and get totally fucked by getting married then let them.
Marriage is a dated concept anyway. ...the 50% divorce rate proves it.
The people who think it violates the "santicity" of marriage are idiots too. Don't you think drive though wedding chapels in Vegas or shows like who wants to marry a millionaire violate that santicty? Why is nobody protesting those?
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The fag can now make marry but the real man can not do luta livre in the newyork. These ease the boolsheet.fuck to you governor Homo
I will follow you around until the end of time with this............
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Why do you stupid fucks care if gays get married or not?
It has no effect on you what so ever. If some queens want to go through some useless ceremony and get totally fucked by getting married then let them.
Marriage is a dated concept anyway. ...the 50% divorce rate proves it.
The people who think it violates the "santicity" of marriage are idiots too. Don't you think drive though wedding chapels in Vegas or shows like who wants to marry a millionaire violate that santicty? Why is nobody protesting those?
Because making yourself anti-gay can be VERY profitable.
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Because making yourself anti-gay can be VERY profitable.
? explain
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? explain
Huge business, because there's a significant percentage of people who self-identify as anti-gay. Let those people know you're on their side (and the reasons WHY don't really matter) and you're more likely to get their business.
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;D ;D ;D
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Huge business, because there's a significant percentage of people who self-identify as anti-gay. Let those people know you're on their side (and the reasons WHY don't really matter) and you're more likely to get their business.
I don't know how much I believe that...unless you're a business owner that's doing so good you're willing to turn down money from potential customers. I'm sure it's real but not as prevalent as people think.
There are plenty of closet racist/anti gays that are business owners that do not care if you pay them with blood money.
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don't you think it's odd for a black man in the south to say that a certain minority group in the US doesn't deserve equal legal rights?
Not if said black man hates himself for being black.
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You have no evidence for this. Just because they're gay doesn't mean that they will all get a divorce in 6 months to a year.
And I doubt you have a gf.
Have you bothered to actually look up the stats on rate of gay marriage resulting in a divorce or just talking out of your ass?
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Have you bothered to actually look up the stats on rate of gay marriage resulting in a divorce or just talking out of your ass?
I wasn't citing empirical data. I was pointing out a logical flaw in 3333's argument.
I'll gladly take on your point....so what is it?
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I say let them get married, why should it be only us straight couples who are miserable!
LOL, I kid I kid! LOL celebrating 5 years with my wife on Monday can't wait for our vacation!
I could care less if gays could get married or not, shouldn't effect any of you straight guys! Good for New York!
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I haven't really read this thread but did anyone do that "Congratulations gay people- you now have the right to lose half of your money" joke yet?
if so- REALLY?!
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I haven't really read this thread but did anyone do that "Congratulations gay people- you now have the right to lose half of your money" joke yet?
if so- REALLY?!
Nope, but I will say,
Jnn make sure you get a prenup, I know you're excited and all over there in NY but still use some common sense :-D
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Nope, but I will say,
Jnn make sure you get a prenup, I know you're excited and all over there in NY but still use some common sense :-D
You and me'll stand in for johnny; and gawd knows, there's enough queens on the site for a spread of bridesmaids, and at least a couple for Maids of Honour. I just hope johnny and rickson will be happy.
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It's gonna be hard trying to slip that Garter belt off of FatPanda's thigh :-\
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can you please talk about how Christianity brain washes the poor and uneducated ?
scientists proved people who have faith -whatever their god- are happier and live longer, they produce more neurotransmitters of hapiness in the brain. They also build stronger families and care more about others on a daily basis, and are more loved. They are baffled by this fact considering that at the same time sciences seem to prove and not prove at the same time a god doesnt exist. But go ahead, if you re smarter than everyone on earth and knows the ultimate truth. I m just careful. I cant say wether religion or science is right, and i d say both are.
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I haven't really read this thread but did anyone do that "Congratulations gay people- you now have the right to lose half of your money" joke yet?
if so- REALLY?!
good point, i can see these a reason now for desperate bodybuilders to marry rich gay men
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4+pages. Really? Who cares what the gays do. If they want to get marriage let them..
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Nope, but I will say,
Jnn make sure you get a prenup, I know you're excited and all over there in NY but still use some common sense :-D
You and me'll stand in for johnny; and gawd knows, there's enough queens on the site for a spread of bridesmaids, and at least a couple for Maids of Honour. I just hope johnny and rickson will be happy.
I feel like Sonny Corleone after he got out of his car at the toll booth right about now
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I feel like Sonny Corleone after he got out of his car at the toll booth right about now
Pre-wedding jitters - understandable. Cinematic, but understandable. rickson? take johnny by the hand and put him in a rear naked. Good luck, youngsters. :)
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scientists proved people who have faith -whatever their god- are happier and live longer, they produce more neurotransmitters of hapiness in the brain. They also build stronger families and care more about others on a daily basis, and are more loved. They are baffled by this fact considering that at the same time sciences seem to prove and not prove at the same time a god doesnt exist. But go ahead, if you re smarter than everyone on earth and knows the ultimate truth. I m just careful. I cant say wether religion or science is right, and i d say both are.
Spot on.
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scientists proved people who have faith -whatever their god- are happier and live longer, they produce more neurotransmitters of hapiness in the brain. They also build stronger families and care more about others on a daily basis, and are more loved. They are baffled by this fact considering that at the same time sciences seem to prove and not prove at the same time a god doesnt exist. But go ahead, if you re smarter than everyone on earth and knows the ultimate truth. I m just careful. I cant say wether religion or science is right, and i d say both are.
The 'laws of attraction' is a science. Everything you have, everything you do comes from the subconscious. If you have good thoughts and faith, those things will come to you, which a good religion will promote.
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who will be first getbig couple?
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who will be first getbig couple?
Theres already been several getbig couples, just ask Bay.
Besides, there is and forever will ONLY be one getbig couple, Jodels and McFarland. (Yes I realize they werent gay, doesnt matter, they have the title, forever.)
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The homophobes are usually the biggest closet cases, they hate themselves so they take it out on the gays.
If they're truly comfortable with themselves and their own sexuality, then why does it bother them so much? ;D
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4+pages. Really? Who cares what the gays do. If they want to get marriage let them..
ok the "who cares" and the "why is this news" comments is kinda outdated and lame
yes people care, people follow it, some care and want it passed, some care because they are curious, some care because they dont want this allowed and some could care less.
some believe that state sponsored gays is what destroys the rest (godly / bible thing)
some dont want their children exposed to daily pics and news of men hugging each other
some simply hate gays
but whatever it is, its worth talking about
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Weird how society has changed.
In ancient Greece, in Athens it was at one stage law for men to be in a relationship with a younger man. They even had a statue in their main public square of two male lovers who had killed the tyrants and worshipped them as semi-divine, becuase it had indirectly led to bringing them democracy.
In Sparta, every warrior also had to have another younger male partner and they were allowed to sodomise unmarried women.
In those days it was viewed as 'normal' and many of their mythological heroes were also involved in such relationships including Zeus and Achilles.
The Macedonians were known for their homosexual relationships, and it was regarded as normal for a man under 30 to have such relationships before marrying and settling down with a wife to produce children.
It was the same till the late Roman Empire, near it's end when Christianity became the state religion. Till then male-male marriage was allowed but was made illegal by one of the later Christian Roman Emperors.
Which is strange because in the New Testament, Jesus does not say a single thing against homosexuals.
For whatever reasons Christians incorporated several books of the Torah into the Bible and the ancient Mosaic laws were followed and incorporated.
And the books to be used were chosen under a committee by the Roman Emperor Constantine. Those that they didn't like were ordered destroyed and they chose the version of the texts they preferred as there were countless in every single Church, all hand written and copied.
Many many were left out.
Modern Europeans now view the world from a 'morality' based on the Abrahamic and Mosaic laws similar to the way the Islamists do.
The only difference is that the New Testament mellowed these ideas and brought about the concepts of forgiveness, and not judging others etc, though why it was incorporated with the ancient and contradictory books of the the Torrah is strange as Jesus was a rebel and against the priests and their system.
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Weird how society has changed.
In ancient Greece, in Athens it was at one stage law for men to be in a relationship with a younger man. They even had a statue in their main public square of two male lovers who had killed the tyrants and worshipped them as semi-divine, becuase it had indirectly led to bringing them democracy.
In Sparta, every warrior also had to have another younger male partner and they were allowed to sodomise unmarried women.
In those days it was viewed as 'normal' and many of their mythological heroes were also involved in such relationships including Zeus and Achilles.
The Macedonians were known for their homosexual relationships, and it was regarded as normal for a man under 30 to have such relationships before marrying and settling down with a wife to produce children.
It was the same till the late Roman Empire, near it's end when Christianity became the state religion. Till then male-male marriage was allowed but was made illegal by one of the later Christian Roman Emperors.
Which is strange because in the New Testament, Jesus does not say a single thing against homosexuals.
For whatever reasons Christians incorporated several books of the Torah into the Bible and the ancient Mosaic laws were followed and incorporated.
And the books to be used were chosen under a committee by the Roman Emperor Constantine. Those that they didn't like were ordered destroyed and they chose the version of the texts they preferred as there were countless in every single Church, all hand written and copied.
Many many were left out.
Modern Europeans now view the world from a 'morality' based on the Abrahamic and Mosaic laws similar to the way the Islamists do.
The only difference is that the New Testament mellowed these ideas and brought about the concepts of forgiveness, and not judging others etc, though why it was incorporated with the ancient and contradictory books of the the Torrah is strange as Jesus was a rebel and against the priests and their system.
This...
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Weird how society has changed.
In ancient Greece, in Athens it was at one stage law for men to be in a relationship with a younger man. They even had a statue in their main public square of two male lovers who had killed the tyrants and worshipped them as semi-divine, becuase it had indirectly led to bringing them democracy.
In Sparta, every warrior also had to have another younger male partner and they were allowed to sodomise unmarried women.
In those days it was viewed as 'normal' and many of their mythological heroes were also involved in such relationships including Zeus and Achilles.
The Macedonians were known for their homosexual relationships, and it was regarded as normal for a man under 30 to have such relationships before marrying and settling down with a wife to produce children.
It was the same till the late Roman Empire, near it's end when Christianity became the state religion. Till then male-male marriage was allowed but was made illegal by one of the later Christian Roman Emperors.
Which is strange because in the New Testament, Jesus does not say a single thing against homosexuals.
For whatever reasons Christians incorporated several books of the Torah into the Bible and the ancient Mosaic laws were followed and incorporated.
And the books to be used were chosen under a committee by the Roman Emperor Constantine. Those that they didn't like were ordered destroyed and they chose the version of the texts they preferred as there were countless in every single Church, all hand written and copied.
Many many were left out.
Modern Europeans now view the world from a 'morality' based on the Abrahamic and Mosaic laws similar to the way the Islamists do.
The only difference is that the New Testament mellowed these ideas and brought about the concepts of forgiveness, and not judging others etc, though why it was incorporated with the ancient and contradictory books of the the Torrah is strange as Jesus was a rebel and against the priests and their system.
Thats why the bible is shit.
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it's always the greeks.. ;D
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Thats why the bible is shit.
I wouldn't necessarily say that...
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Thats why the bible is shit.
I think if we look at the New Testament alone, the message is good.
At least Jesus tried to convey some sort of positve message to humanity.
The problem is that today, his words are lumped into the same category as myths and archaic laws from hundreds of years and thousands of years before.
The New Testament was written in Greek and many of it's concepts are inspired by Greek ideas such as that of the Logos, or what Christians now call the Trinity, 'three beings in one' that are one and the same.
However, the word 'Logos' is used, the same as used by Aristotle when he came up with the concept, and the words 'Hades' is also used for hell, the same as the pagans would use.
The people who wrote the books currently making up the Bible lived in a different era to their ancient ancestors, they now lived in a more 'global' Hellenized world under the Roman Empire and their writing shows a different outlook.
The problem then started with organised religion, with competing Churches all with their owen agenda's and local backers, then finally controlled by an entire Empire who were more worried about theological debates and keeping power instead of sending more troops to exterminate the Barbarians flooding through their borders while they awaited the second-coming.
Acts on Earth became irrelavant, everything was now for the afterlife.
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The progressive degradation of America. They think it some great accomplishment that the most liberal, ethically, economically fucked up state in the union (california is a close second) is making a big deal out this. Everything a "progressive" touchs or tries to impliment turns to shit....that is a fact!
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The progressive degradation of America. They think it some great accomplishment that the most liberal, ethically, economically fucked up state in the union (california is a close second) is making a big deal out this. Everything a "progressive" touchs or tries to impliment turns to shit....that is a fact!
The government's role is to maintain law and order, protection of citizens lives and property and promote a healthy economy.
And not to decide on "Morals" for them, ie: what is right and rong from a moral perspective or a religious perspective.
They're supposed to have as little influence as possible on people's daily lives and let them do whatever and say whatever they want as long as they're not hurting or stealing from anyone or directly inciting such behaviour.
Freedom is the main point of living in a Democracy.
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The government's role is to maintain law and order, protection of citizens lives and property and promote a healthy economy.
And not to decide on "Morals" for them, ie: what is right and rong from a moral perspective or a religious perspective.
They're supposed to have as little influence as possible on people's daily lives and let them do whatever and say whatever they want as long as they're not hurting or stealing from anyone or directly inciting such behaviour.
Freedom is the main point of living in a Democracy.
agree, i think its quite ego centrical to decide for other people wheter they can marry or not. if its so important for them then let them.
seriously coach , what is changing for you if gays can marry, i dont think two guys walking hand in hand is tasteful either but who am i
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The government's role is to maintain law and order, protection of citizens lives and property and promote a healthy economy.
And not to decide on "Morals" for them, ie: what is right and rong from a moral perspective or a religious perspective.
They're supposed to have as little influence as possible on people's daily lives and let them do whatever and say whatever they want as long as they're not hurting or stealing from anyone or directly inciting such behaviour.
Freedom is the main point of living in a Democracy.
Don't disagree, but the liberal government has it's hands all over this in EVERY WAY. Their government IS NOT about what you described but rather shitting all over the Constitution every chance they get. When something they try to implement doesn't go right then they turn to the constitution other than that they shit on it. When you see things like gay pride parades, you actually don't think their intention is to insight something? They know damn well there will be protestors.
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Don't disagree, but the liberal government has it's hands all over this in EVERY WAY. Their government IS NOT about what you described but rather shitting all over the Constitution every chance they get. When something they try to implement doesn't go right then they turn to the constitution other than that they shit on it. When you see things like gay pride parades, you actually don't think their intention is to insight something? They know damn well there will be protestors.
your gorgeous man, would make a great addition to a float parade
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Don't disagree, but the liberal government has it's hands all over this in EVERY WAY. Their government IS NOT about what you described but rather shitting all over the Constitution every chance they get. When something they try to implement doesn't go right then they turn to the constitution other than that they shit on it. When you see things like gay pride parades, you actually don't think their intention is to insight something? They know damn well there will be protestors.
The equal protection clause of the fourteenth amendment is very important and is what laws like this are all about. In my state the republicans are shitting on the constitution by detaining illegal aliens for no reason and without due process. I think lack of respect for the founding documents is an endemic problem on both sides of the aisle and is only getting worse. Instead of seeing the gay marriage thing as an abhorrent affront to the family and Christianity you could see it as a victory for freedom and one less thing big government can tell people they can't do.
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No reason? They're illegal and shouldn't have rights. Go to another country and see you get the same treatment. How can they shit on the constitution if they are ILLEGAL?
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No reason? They're illegal and shouldn't have rights. Go to another country and see you get the same treatment. How can they shit on the constitution if they are ILLEGAL?
as big of a dick as the coach is, he does have a point here.
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No reason? They're illegal and shouldn't have rights. Go to another country and see you get the same treatment. How can they shit on the constitution if they are ILLEGAL?
Plus one coach. What does the Mexican government do if you fuck up over there. They throw you in a cell and you have to bribe your way out. The living condition are absolutely sickening. It's horrible.
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No reason? They're illegal and shouldn't have rights. Go to another country and see you get the same treatment. How can they shit on the constitution if they are ILLEGAL?
Have you ever read the constitution Coach? Seriously man, it's important stuff.
No state can deprive any person from life, liberty, or property without due process of law.
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Yes, I've read it, and because I'm posting from my phone, I can't remember what section its in but I do know the consitution clearly says Illegal entry into the country is a federal crime. Why do you think we have a process that people SHOULD go through if they want to become legal. Look, as long as they go throught the proper channels, I have no problem with it what so ever. But a crime is a crime. What (I believe) that part of the constitution you're referring to states no matter race, creed, color, sexual orentation can be discriminated against. But illegal is illegal.
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Yes, I've read it, and because I'm posting from my phone, I can't remember what section its in but I do know the consitution clearly says Illegal entry into the country is a federal crime. Why do you think we have a process that people SHOULD go through if they want to become legal. Look, as long as they go throught the proper channels, I have no problem with it what so ever. But a crime is a crime. What (I believe) that part of the constitution you're referring to states no matter race, creed, color, sexual orentation can be discriminated against. But illegal is illegal.
Coach, please stick to workout stuff.
So you just said that anyone guilty of a crime has no rights whatsoever.
I'll be sure to torture the next traffic offender I come across. After all, "illegal is illegal", and "They're illegal and shouldn't have rights". ::)
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Yes, I've read it, and because I'm posting from my phone, I can't remember what section its in but I do know the consitution clearly says Illegal entry into the country is a federal crime. Why do you think we have a process that people SHOULD go through if they want to become legal. Look, as long as they go throught the proper channels, I have no problem with it what so ever. But a crime is a crime. What (I believe) that part of the constitution you're referring to states no matter race, creed, color, sexual orentation can be discriminated against. But illegal is illegal.
Sure, and let INS deal with that, the point is that illegal aliens have the same right to due process under the fourteenth amendment to the constitution as a naturalized citizen. In fact they have all the same rights as citizens except the right to bear arms and the right to vote according to the constitution.
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Some of you guys are idiots. The same people that want to give civil rights to terroists. Believe water boarding is torture ::) Why the hell would an illegal alien have the same rights as us. Besides we don't beat them, underfeed them or do anything cruel or unusual to them. Sure that may happen but if your caught there is a huge investigation and you get in trouble.
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Who the hell would want to live in NY? Taxes too high, horrible climate, welfare out of control and the whole state smells like urine.
STAY/REMAIN/PROCEED POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Sure, and let INS deal with that, the point is that illegal aliens have the same right to due process under the fourteenth amendment to the constitution as a naturalized citizen. In fact they have all the same rights as citizens except the right to bear arms and the right to vote according to the constitution.
As they should. Considering a lot of the people who make up America came over here illegally. I'd bet the house that Coach's bloodline doesn't have to go too far back to find that he too is here illegally but able to stay because of a technicality...
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No magoo, quit spinning. You know what meant because what I said was clear. If an ILLEGAL commits a crime he should have no rights.
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Some of you guys are idiots. The same people that want to give civil rights to terroists. Believe water boarding is torture ::) Why the hell would an illegal alien have the same rights as us. Besides we don't beat them, underfeed them or do anything cruel or unusual to them. Sure that may happen but if your caught there is a huge investigation and you get in trouble.
You either endeavor to be a model for all mankind or you do not.
Because you yourself lack any sort of leadership potential, these are concepts you're not capable of understanding. Leave the heavy thinking to the big boys. You're out of your league here.
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question is whats next?
Schmoes will be allowed tax exemptions on the purchase of soiled posing trunks...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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On the Nightly news they talked about the amount of money that NY stands to get because of this---possibly over 180 million each yr, due to people coming to get married...sooo this means, follow the money. This wasn't about "Marriage Equality", it's about money...in these hard economic times people States are getting creative in drawing revenue...
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You either endeavor to be a model for all mankind or you do not.
Because you yourself lack any sort of leadership potential, these are concepts you're not capable of understanding. Leave the heavy thinking to the big boys. You're out of your league here.
Whatever dude. What happens if your illegal in any other country? Your stuck in a shithole cell. In America they get clothes, food, cold water, and safe transportation back to there shitty homeland. What's wrong with that. Why should they have more rights than that when they didn't play fair and wait there turn go through all of the red tape that everyone has to. What if you were in line for years to get into American and people you new were just hopping over the border to come here. Aren't you the guy that started a thread about what you would if a girl died when you were about to have sex ::)
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No magoo, quit spinning. You know what meant because what I said was clear. If an ILLEGAL commits a crime he should have no rights.
Not spinning.
You said a person becomes an illegal because he broke a federal crime of being an illegal citizen. So are you saying anyone who breaks federal crimes should not have rights?
And just to give you benefit of the doubt and talk only about illegal aliens. You really think they should have NO rights? So would you advocate the torture of a 5 year old illegal immigrant? You need to clarify what rights you are talking about. I hope you really don't mean "no rights."
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Not spinning.
You said a person becomes an illegal because he broke a federal crime of being an illegal citizen. So are you saying anyone who breaks federal crimes should not have rights?
And just to give you benefit of the doubt and talk only about illegal aliens. You really think they should have NO rights? So would you advocate the torture of a 5 year old illegal immigrant? You need to clarify what rights you are talking about. I hope you really don't mean "no rights."
They have basic human rights. No one ever said they have no rights. You can't beat them and not feed them. We take good care of the people here compared to other countries. You liberals are to sensitive in the wrong situations.
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They have basic human rights. No one ever said they have no rights. You can't beat them and not feed them. We take good care of the people here compared to other countries. You liberals are to sensitive in the wrong situations.
Coach said "no rights". He said it several times. I'm going to assume Coach is a big boy who knows what words mean.
I'll let him retype his point though.
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No reason? They're illegal and shouldn't have rights. Go to another country and see you get the same treatment. How can they shit on the constitution if they are ILLEGAL?
x1000 - few people understand this although it's so simple.
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On the Nightly news they talked about the amount of money that NY stands to get because of this---possibly over 180 million each yr, due to people coming to get married...sooo this means, follow the money. This wasn't about "Marriage Equality", it's about money...in these hard economic times people States are getting creative in drawing revenue...
Exactly. They would have legalized this shit years ago, if they just did it out of moral code.
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Geez Magoo, use some commonsense. No rights means no legal (consistutional) right, I didn't means no human rights. C'mon dude you're smarter than that. We've been talking all along about constitutional rights.
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x1000 - few people understand this although it's so simple.
They need to go spend time in some eastern european countries or some 3rd world shitholes. Try sneaking into one of those places. See what happens to you.
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x1000 - few people understand this although it's so simple.
I don't understand your point, since most other countries are barbaric shitholes we should disregard our constitution?
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They need to go spend time in some eastern european countries or some 3rd world shitholes. Try sneaking into one of those places. See what happens to you.
3 people have supported this point. I was going to let it go but I'll respond.
What other countries do have no bearing whatsoever on what we should do. I don't care if every other country in the world hangs illegal aliens for example. That doesn't mean that we can treat them badly and then say "look at other countries, at least you're not getting hung."
That's a stupid point.
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Coach, I found some info that summarizes the constitutional rights of illegal aliens. Hope you find this useful.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/rightsandfreedoms/a/illegalrights.htm (http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/rightsandfreedoms/a/illegalrights.htm)
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Ok, I can't click on links on here. I'll check when I get back to a computer.
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Ok, I can't click on links on here. I'll check when I get back to a computer.
are you at UFC headquaters? You should pitch an idea to dana about a show of you training these guys into champions.
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Fags will end up to demand some kind of surgery to be able to have kids... probably the ultimate war will not be religious but sexual...
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Fags will end up to demand some kind of surgery to be able to have kids... probably the ultimate war will not be religious but sexual...
idiots like you is the start of the next war.
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are you at UFC headquaters? You should pitch an idea to dana about a show of you training these guys into champions.
no, his boyfriend gets mad when he looks at porn.
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no, his boyfriend gets mad when he looks at porn.
the coach isn't gay and has a wife, he is living the dream, training UFC champions and working out hard pumping iron, tanning, and staying in shape.
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the coach isn't gay and has a wife, he is living the dream, training UFC champions and working out hard pumping iron, tanning, and staying in shape.
:D
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the coach isn't gay and has a wife, he is living the dream, training UFC champions and working out hard pumping iron, tanning, and staying in shape.
Coach isn't gay, but he does look like he should grow a moustache.
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Coach isn't gay, but he does look like he should grow a moustache.
he had a goatee, he looked spectacular.
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idiots like you is the start of the next war.
Then I would probably shoot you dead...
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Then I would probably shoot you dead...
i guess i couldn't post anymore than shoot!
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Kongo just tweeted,"Thanks Joe M for the best foot-rubs ever"
nice to see gratitude.
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Isn't Kongo a hard core lefty who praises Obama's every move?
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Isn't Kongo a hard core lefty who praises Obama's every move?
He is indeed - oftentimes he praises Obama's every move while he is receiving a foot massage from the coach.
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He is indeed - oftentimes he praises Obama's every move while he is receiving a foot massage from the coach.
bs, stop spreading lies, Coach is a family man.
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bs, stop spreading lies, Coach is a family man.
what lies? Coach is a family man. His relationship with Kongo's body is undertaken in a purely professional capacity.
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bs, stop spreading lies, Coach is a family man.
coach likes action on the side?
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/24/gay-marriage-headed-to-vote-on-ny-senate-floor/
question is what will gays demand next?
they wont stop the demand as the gay rights groups need to continue raising money, question is whats next?
When you have benefactors, that are as flush for cash as theirs, well, there is little to worry about.
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/06/new-york-gay-marriage-follow-the-jewish-money/
Part 1 of 6
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When you have benefactors, that are as flush for cash as theirs, well, there is little to worry about.
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/06/new-york-gay-marriage-follow-the-jewish-money/
Part 1 of 6
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whats out for the Jews, we need textbooks teaching our young ones about these parasites.
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whats out for the Jews, we need textbooks teaching our young ones about these parasites.
Good luck, they have the game in the states & Europe sown up mate.
Great idea, but it would never get off the ground.
Even academics such as Professor 'Kevin MacDonald', get trashed / demonised in the media, & ostracised by their contemporaries.
The paradigm is extremely old & well put together.
With so many Whites around the world just kicking back & watching the 'MSM' / eating shit food, I honestly, have NO idea what can be done to save the day.
Hence the reason I decided to save my-self instead.
Call me a Rat, for deserting a sinking ship (metaphorical Europe) & I will happily concede to that accusation.
But with no revolution on the horizon, & the vast majority of people so indoctrinated by the 'MSM' - what other choice did I have.
Stay & drown, nah, you can keep that shit.
Funny how most of the people I talk with in London (the UK in general) want the fuck out, even if they don't know the entire causality, behind why that is................
Makes you think, huh??
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TOed faster than you can say "don't fuck with the Ron"! :o