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Title: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2011, 10:18:54 AM
There has been no global warming since 1998
The Telegraph ^ | 7/6/11 | James Delingpole [/b]

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The headline of this post really shouldn’t be controversial. It chimes perfectly with what Kevin “null hypothesis” Trenberth wrote in that notorious 2009 Climategate email to Michael Mann:

The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.

And it’s what Phil Jones admitted in a BBC interview when he said that there had been no “statistically significant” warming since 1995.

Why then am I mentioning it now? W-e-l-l, because just as ze war is to the Germans, Chappaquiddick is to the Kennedy family and that Portland masseuse incident to Al Gore, so the recent lack of warming is to the, er, Warmists. They hate it. It’s an affront to everything they believe in. Damn it, if the world isn’t warming with the alacrity they’d prefer, how are they going to keep the funding gravy train going, and how are they going to persuade an increasingly sceptical populace that the “science” is “settled”, the debate over and the time for action is now? That’s why they can’t reminded of the truth often enough. It’s like salting the slugs that are ruining your garden: necessary, but also kind of fun too.


(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: The Italian Lifter on July 06, 2011, 10:20:15 AM
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Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: BustinAss on July 06, 2011, 10:35:45 AM
There has been no global warming since 1998
The Telegraph ^ | 7/6/11 | James Delingpole [/b]

________________________ ________________________ _____________



The headline of this post really shouldn’t be controversial. It chimes perfectly with what Kevin “null hypothesis” Trenberth wrote in that notorious 2009 Climategate email to Michael Mann:

The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.

And it’s what Phil Jones admitted in a BBC interview when he said that there had been no “statistically significant” warming since 1995.

Why then am I mentioning it now? W-e-l-l, because just as ze war is to the Germans, Chappaquiddick is to the Kennedy family and that Portland masseuse incident to Al Gore, so the recent lack of warming is to the, er, Warmists. They hate it. It’s an affront to everything they believe in. Damn it, if the world isn’t warming with the alacrity they’d prefer, how are they going to keep the funding gravy train going, and how are they going to persuade an increasingly sceptical populace that the “science” is “settled”, the debate over and the time for action is now? That’s why they can’t reminded of the truth often enough. It’s like salting the slugs that are ruining your garden: necessary, but also kind of fun too.


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Hundreds of scientific journals account for global warming.

Only a small percentage does not.

Whoever does not 'believe' should realize his lack of knowledge and dive deep into the books.

Regardless of truth we as humans can do the following
- Invest and nothing happens: we lost money and time (-1 point)
- Not invest and something happens: We lose money, our nature, our way of life and lots of time trying to solve things in a hurry (-2 points at least)

There are 2 more options but these 2 are more relevant.

If we do not invest and nothing happens would be the best option as we save time and money.

In order to do this we as humanity must be 100% there is no global warming.

This with current scientific knowledge is not possible and quite the opposite.

No matter how you turn it we must investigate and invest in this
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 06, 2011, 11:08:00 AM
There has been no global warming since 1998
The Telegraph ^ | 7/6/11 | James Delingpole [/b]

________________________ ________________________ _____________



The headline of this post really shouldn’t be controversial. It chimes perfectly with what Kevin “null hypothesis” Trenberth wrote in that notorious 2009 Climategate email to Michael Mann:

The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.

And it’s what Phil Jones admitted in a BBC interview when he said that there had been no “statistically significant” warming since 1995.

Why then am I mentioning it now? W-e-l-l, because just as ze war is to the Germans, Chappaquiddick is to the Kennedy family and that Portland masseuse incident to Al Gore, so the recent lack of warming is to the, er, Warmists. They hate it. It’s an affront to everything they believe in. Damn it, if the world isn’t warming with the alacrity they’d prefer, how are they going to keep the funding gravy train going, and how are they going to persuade an increasingly sceptical populace that the “science” is “settled”, the debate over and the time for action is now? That’s why they can’t reminded of the truth often enough. It’s like salting the slugs that are ruining your garden: necessary, but also kind of fun too.


(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...

Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Benny B on July 06, 2011, 11:14:52 AM
There has been no global warming since 1998
The Telegraph ^ | 7/6/11 | James Delingpole [/b]

________________________ ________________________ _____________



The headline of this post really shouldn’t be controversial. It chimes perfectly with what Kevin “null hypothesis” Trenberth wrote in that notorious 2009 Climategate email to Michael Mann:

The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.

And it’s what Phil Jones admitted in a BBC interview when he said that there had been no “statistically significant” warming since 1995.

Why then am I mentioning it now? W-e-l-l, because just as ze war is to the Germans, Chappaquiddick is to the Kennedy family and that Portland masseuse incident to Al Gore, so the recent lack of warming is to the, er, Warmists. They hate it. It’s an affront to everything they believe in. Damn it, if the world isn’t warming with the alacrity they’d prefer, how are they going to keep the funding gravy train going, and how are they going to persuade an increasingly sceptical populace that the “science” is “settled”, the debate over and the time for action is now? That’s why they can’t reminded of the truth often enough. It’s like salting the slugs that are ruining your garden: necessary, but also kind of fun too.


(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


Why did you LIE about flying to California, PEA BRAIN?
Are you embarrassed to admit you are not really a lawyer? Or at best a shitty public defendant? Were you afraid Lurker may wish to see your "office" in mommy's basement? Or were you just ashamed to reveal that you are a 4'11" chronic masturbating loser?
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: chaos on July 06, 2011, 11:26:48 AM
Nothing wrong with chronic masturbation.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 06, 2011, 12:38:17 PM
"Global Warming" hahahaha!
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 06, 2011, 12:40:00 PM
We're in an engineered ice age

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/318/944/Are_We_Entering_An_Engineered_Ice_Age.html
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: freespirit on July 06, 2011, 12:44:14 PM
In before tbomz or trueadonis makes a comment.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: 240 is Back on July 06, 2011, 12:50:37 PM
i agree global warming is a farce.

however you will always have people saying things like

"I believe that man's activities certainly can be contributing to the issue of global warming,"

You like, like Palin did in 2008.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: The True Adonis on July 06, 2011, 12:55:00 PM
Getbig is a bastion of scientific stupidity.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 06, 2011, 12:55:21 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_control


Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2011, 12:57:12 PM
Getbig is a bastion of scientific stupidity.

Considering you voted for obama thinking he would improve the economy, you really are not in a position to throw stones. 
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 06, 2011, 12:58:02 PM
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 06, 2011, 01:04:32 PM
http://thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com/2011/05/30/weather-manipulation-man-made-storms-hover-over-northern-california-may-29-2011/
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 06, 2011, 01:06:41 PM
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: chaos on July 06, 2011, 03:57:13 PM
Getbig is a bastion of scientific stupidity.
And chronic masturbators.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: AbrahamG on July 06, 2011, 04:55:16 PM
There has been no global warming since 1998
The Telegraph ^ | 7/6/11 | James Delingpole [/b]

________________________ ________________________ _____________



The headline of this post really shouldn’t be controversial. It chimes perfectly with what Kevin “null hypothesis” Trenberth wrote in that notorious 2009 Climategate email to Michael Mann:

The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.

And it’s what Phil Jones admitted in a BBC interview when he said that there had been no “statistically significant” warming since 1995.

Why then am I mentioning it now? W-e-l-l, because just as ze war is to the Germans, Chappaquiddick is to the Kennedy family and that Portland masseuse incident to Al Gore, so the recent lack of warming is to the, er, Warmists. They hate it. It’s an affront to everything they believe in. Damn it, if the world isn’t warming with the alacrity they’d prefer, how are they going to keep the funding gravy train going, and how are they going to persuade an increasingly sceptical populace that the “science” is “settled”, the debate over and the time for action is now? That’s why they can’t reminded of the truth often enough. It’s like salting the slugs that are ruining your garden: necessary, but also kind of fun too.


(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


too fucking retarded are you for me to even comprehend.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: bradistani on July 06, 2011, 04:59:02 PM
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Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: tbombz on July 06, 2011, 07:13:14 PM
Considering you voted for obama thinking he would improve the economy, you really are not in a position to throw stones. 
i dont think anyone voted for obama because they thought hed improve the economy. everyone voted for him because they thought hed give us universal healthcare, increase the taxes on the rich, stop the iraq war, increase funding for stem cell research, protect abortion rights, and increase personal freedoms like the right to marry and ending the drug prohibition.


he hasnt done most of those because people are sheep and the republicans have taken advantage of the sour economy and turned everyone against obama, as if its his fault that we are in this recession.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Necrosis on July 06, 2011, 07:43:24 PM
There has been no global warming since 1998
The Telegraph ^ | 7/6/11 | James Delingpole [/b]

________________________ ________________________ _____________



The headline of this post really shouldn’t be controversial. It chimes perfectly with what Kevin “null hypothesis” Trenberth wrote in that notorious 2009 Climategate email to Michael Mann:

The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.

And it’s what Phil Jones admitted in a BBC interview when he said that there had been no “statistically significant” warming since 1995.

Why then am I mentioning it now? W-e-l-l, because just as ze war is to the Germans, Chappaquiddick is to the Kennedy family and that Portland masseuse incident to Al Gore, so the recent lack of warming is to the, er, Warmists. They hate it. It’s an affront to everything they believe in. Damn it, if the world isn’t warming with the alacrity they’d prefer, how are they going to keep the funding gravy train going, and how are they going to persuade an increasingly sceptical populace that the “science” is “settled”, the debate over and the time for action is now? That’s why they can’t reminded of the truth often enough. It’s like salting the slugs that are ruining your garden: necessary, but also kind of fun too.


(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...



This is a LIE!!!! hahah

raw data on warming

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadcrut3vgl.txt
http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/tltglhmam_5.2

awesome conclusion on the data

Average Global Mean temperatures for all of 2000-2009 is +0.512, which is a full +0.18 degrees greater than the period of 1990-1999. This is in spite of the fact that the 1990's were dominated by rising sunspot numbers, wheras the current decade has been dominated by record low sunspot numbers (0 for almost the entirety of 2005-2009). Not only that, but the data shows that the rate of warming-per decade-is *accelerating*, not *decelerating*. Lastly, its all very well saying that Global Mean Temperatures will *only* rise by about 2 degrees over the next century (assuming no accelerating in the warming trend), but that is a GLOBAL MEAN. Actual temperature differentiations will be *much*, *much* higher at different parts of the year & at different points of the planet. Winter temperatures might only increase by an average of +0.1 to +0.5 degrees, wheras summer temperatures might increase by an average of 3 to 4 degrees-or more. Some parts of the globe may see a much sharper increase in mean temperatures-& see an increase in heat related disasters. Australia has had 3 record heat waves in the space of only a year, what can they expect in 10 to 20 years time? Also, I'd like to remind you that at least 2 civilizations were wiped out due to a total increase in global mean temperatures of only +0.6 degrees-over the space of almost 600 years. Tell the Anasazi & the Khmer Empire how unimpressed you are by a *mere* 1.8 degree increase in global mean temperatures over the next 100 years.

the above cited study is measuring one point on the surface which is known  to be very unreliable, ocean temperatures(thermal mass) are much less prone to fluctuations and are more accurate. Im not sure what they are talking about also, all of the data show increases in temperatures, this is propaganda.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Necrosis on July 06, 2011, 07:46:52 PM
ocean temperatures measured at proper depth

http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-cooling.htm

it has been rising.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Necrosis on July 06, 2011, 07:51:15 PM
deniers are morons

JOURNAL OF GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH, VOL. 114, C09007, 17 PP., 2009
doi:10.1029/2008JC005237

Global hydrographic variability patterns during 2003–2008
Global hydrographic variability patterns during 2003–2008

K. von Schuckmann

LPO, UMR 6523, UBO, Ifremer, IRD, CNRS, Plouzané, France

F. Gaillard

LPO, UMR 6523, UBO, Ifremer, IRD, CNRS, Plouzané, France

P.-Y. Le Traon

LOS, Ifremer, Plouzané, France

Monthly gridded global temperature and salinity fields from the near-surface layer down to 2000 m depth based on Argo measurements are used to analyze large-scale variability patterns on annual to interannual time scales during the years 2003–2008. Previous estimates of global hydrographic fluctuations have been derived using different data sets, partly on the basis of scarce sampling. The substantial advantage of this study includes a detailed summary of global variability patterns based on a single and more uniform database. In the upper 400 m, regions of strong seasonal salinity changes differ from regions of strong seasonal temperature changes, and large amplitudes of seasonal salinity are observed in the upper tropical and subpolar global ocean. Strong interannual and decadal changes superimpose long-term changes at northern midlatitudes. In the subtropical and tropical basin, interannual fluctuations dominate the upper 500 m depth. At southern midlatitudes, hydrographic changes occur on interannual and decadal time scales, while long-term changes are predominantly observed in the salinity field. Global mean heat content and steric height changes are clearly associated with a positive trend during the 6 years of measurements. The global 6-year trend of steric height deduced from in situ measurements explains 40% of the satellite-derived quantities. The global freshwater content does not show a significant trend and is dominated by interannual variability.


its always those who have no background in science
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2011, 07:54:32 PM
Take it up w jones.      Lmao.   
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 06, 2011, 08:30:43 PM
Mmm, take a look at most of the scientists, they are the Government scientists who are writing most of these reports...liberal minions!
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Necrosis on July 06, 2011, 08:39:29 PM
Mmm, take a look at most of the scientists, they are the Government scientists who are writing most of these reports...liberal minions!

jesus, open your eyes not everything is based on two parties you nit wit. The government provides most of the grants for the natural sciences you unbelievable idiot.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 06, 2011, 08:43:35 PM
Dude, its no secret its a liberal agenda why do you think they battle this in DC?
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Necrosis on July 06, 2011, 08:56:57 PM
Dude, its no secret its a liberal agenda why do you think they battle this in DC?

oh ok, because all of science comes from america  and all of the positive studies are liberal e-tard lies right?

im not a liberal nor a  repub open your eyes man, you deny evolution, deny warming you are a reality denier plain and simple, you cant even fathom that evolution is true, that global warming is happening, you have your mind made up.

if data presents itself to the contrary i will change my opinion, you on the other hand can not be swayed.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: AbrahamG on July 06, 2011, 09:00:57 PM
i dont think anyone voted for obama because they thought hed improve the economy. everyone voted for him because they thought hed give us universal healthcare, increase the taxes on the rich, stop the iraq war, increase funding for stem cell research, protect abortion rights, and increase personal freedoms like the right to marry and ending the drug prohibition.


he hasnt done most of those because people are sheep and the republicans have taken advantage of the sour economy and turned everyone against obama, as if its his fault that we are in this recession.

I agree with you 99%.  I disagree about the economy improving.  I think most did vote for him because of the policies he championed which if followed through with would have improved the economy rather than rescuing it from the brink of a depression.  The supposed trillion dollar stimulus which was only 787 billion which was really only about half that because roughly half went to tax breaks including for the rich which reduces its effectiveness even more. 
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2011, 09:07:56 PM
I agree with you 99%.  I disagree about the economy improving.  I think most did vote for him because of the policies he championed which if followed through with would have improved the economy rather than rescuing it from the brink of a depression.  The supposed trillion dollar stimulus which was only 787 billion which was really only about half that because roughly half went to tax breaks including for the rich which reduces its effectiveness even more. 

Yeah instead of pissing away 278k for every phony job created or saved, it would have been far better had we spent 600k for every bogus job alleged to have been saved.   


Fail. 
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: AbrahamG on July 06, 2011, 09:10:40 PM
Yeah instead of pissing away 278k for every phony job created or saved, it would have been far better had we spent 600k for every bogus job alleged to have been saved.   


Fail. 

Tell 3.5 million people who are still working or found work that their jobs and paychecks are phony.  Your sadly just not very bright.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2011, 09:11:44 PM
Tell 3.5 million people who are still working or found work that their jobs and paychecks are phony.  Your sadly just not very bright.

Ha ha ha ha.   Where did that money come from?   
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 06, 2011, 09:17:52 PM
3.5 million people could give a shit as long as their checks don't bounce. Please!
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Rami on July 06, 2011, 09:20:01 PM
The man made global warming concept is just a convenient scam to make money of and regulate human behavior, with more taxes.

There have been lots of climate change through out history, all driven by the sun.


In fact Greenland was green during the Medieval Warm Period between AD 950–1250 and they were growing grapes in England during that time. This was followed by an mini ice age as well.



Nice try at fooling people for profit though.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Benny B on July 06, 2011, 10:29:07 PM
Getbig is a bastion of scientific stupidity.
Corrected above quote for greater accuracy.  :)
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Benny B on July 06, 2011, 10:36:11 PM
Dude, its no secret its a liberal agenda why do you think they battle this in DC?

Post up your vast numbers of "conservative" scientists who disagree? We're all ears, Uncle Taco? Then maybe you can explain to me why you are a self-hating Mexican who votes repube...the party that would love to have you either out picking berries on a farm at
$0.10 an hour, or ship your beans and rice eatin' ass the FUCK back to Guadalajara. What do you say, Taco?
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: SF1900 on July 06, 2011, 10:46:24 PM
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Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 06, 2011, 11:11:57 PM
Wanna start with the scientists that proved Algores movie to be a complete farce. BTW, who the hell removed you from my lawn?
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 06, 2011, 11:25:27 PM
no global warmin... global cooling it is more appropriate
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: WillGrant on July 07, 2011, 06:47:00 AM
Dude, its no secret its a liberal agenda why do you think they battle this in DC?
paranoia ?
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Necrosis on July 07, 2011, 06:54:33 AM
Wanna start with the scientists that proved Algores movie to be a complete farce. BTW, who the hell removed you from my lawn?

post the studies and evidence then.

"the scientists that proved al gore wrong" lol. Its funny that you believe the other party has an agenda yet you are fine with conservative scientists taking the other position.  The funny thing is science doesn't work like that, the vast majority >95% agree the climate is trending towards warming, are they all liberal? this is all across the world by the way, no country disagrees.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 07:04:47 AM
post the studies and evidence then.

"the scientists that proved al gore wrong" lol. Its funny that you believe the other party has an agenda yet you are fine with conservative scientists taking the other position.  The funny thing is science doesn't work like that, the vast majority >95% agree the climate is trending towards warming, are they all liberal? this is all across the world by the way, no country disagrees.

Trending?   Ha Ha Ha 

Every year when the seasons change, the climage trends warmer and cooler no? 
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Necrosis on July 07, 2011, 07:56:13 AM
Trending?   Ha Ha Ha 

Every year when the seasons change, the climage trends warmer and cooler no? 

no
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 07, 2011, 08:12:15 AM
Yes, I can't believe how hot it is...............in July.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Necrosis on July 07, 2011, 12:40:03 PM
Yes, I can't believe how hot it is...............in July.

are you a troll?

what does climate change refer to?

seriously, would you admit you are not well informed on specific scientific matters such as evolution and climate change?
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 12:45:14 PM
are you a troll?

what does climate change refer to?

seriously, would you admit you are not well informed on specific scientific matters such as evolution and climate change?

Find another celeb issue to parrot, this one is not working out to well for the fanatics. 
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 07, 2011, 12:50:44 PM
As is evolution vs. Creation? Let's put it this way, if it were as clear cut as people think it is (Evolutionists) there would be no need for debate. Yet its debated everyday. Climate change happens daily as well, never mind the earths temp has risen a degree or two in the last 100-150 years.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 12:53:02 PM
Global Warming Cult is in panic that they wont get their greedy hands on trillions of tax dollars to squander on their crackpot nonsense.   
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Board_SHERIF on July 07, 2011, 01:23:33 PM
Imbeciles believe that there is no global warming....
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 01:26:12 PM
Imbeciles believe that there is no global warming....

Imbecils believe that giving al gore, Goldman Sachs, GE, Obama, Pelosi, and the criminal conspiracy known as the CME trillions of taxpayer dollars to gamble on this hokus pokus crap will result in anything other than more debt, corruption, fraud, waste, and abuse.   
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Board_SHERIF on July 07, 2011, 01:28:18 PM
Imbecils believe that giving al gore, Goldman Sachs, GE, Obama, Pelosi, and the criminal conspiracy known as the CME trillions of taxpayer dollars to gamble on this hokus pokus crap will result in anything other than more debt, corruption, fraud, waste, and abuse.   


Sure all that is sad as well, I believe in global warming and the corruption as pointed out by you.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: tu_holmes on July 07, 2011, 01:30:43 PM
Personally, I do believe in curbing carbon emissions and stuff like that... However, if I keep the lights off during the day, and I save energy in other places... such as like walking to work (which I do) then I can drive my fuel inefficient car ALL DAY LONG on the weekends if I want to.

I believe in trying to curb them, but taxing people on them is just fucked up.

And taking away some of my freedoms to save the planet is retarded... There is no correlation at all.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Board_SHERIF on July 07, 2011, 01:33:07 PM
Personally, I do believe in curbing carbon emissions and stuff like that... However, if I keep the lights off during the day, and I save energy in other places... such as like walking to work (which I do) then I can drive my fuel inefficient car ALL DAY LONG on the weekends if I want to.

I believe in trying to curb them, but taxing people on them is just fucked up.

And taking away some of my freedoms to save the planet is retarded... There is no correlation at all.

what if persons who had eco friendly cars received a tax deduction ? with a plan to abolish gas cars slowly by 2020 ?
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: tu_holmes on July 07, 2011, 01:37:58 PM
what if persons who had eco friendly cars received a tax deduction ? with a plan to abolish gas cars slowly by 2020 ?

I do not agree with a tax deduction for buying an "eco" friendly car... You're giving someone else a boost because they bought a car? That seems silly.

Plus, how do you define "eco friendly" anyway?

Look at the Prius... It saves gas, sure... but the nickle for the batteries is mined in Canada... Shipped to Europe and Refined into the battery, then shipped to japan and put into the car.

The amount of damage to the environment in the mining process and shipping is more than the aid to the environment from driving the car for 10 years.

Plus, when the car is done, you have to dispose of the battery... Also bad for the environment.

Then, it doesn't get better mileage than some Volkswagens... So how is it really "eco friendly"?

If you can come up with an alternative energy method that is as good (or close) to the internal combustion engine in regards to power, then I'm fine with eliminating gas powered cars... but it has to be safe, powerful, and efficient.

The internal combustion engine is all 3 of those things.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: makaveli25 on July 07, 2011, 01:40:29 PM
Global Warming my ass. It's all made up bye that queer Al Gore to make money. He is one of the biggest phonies in politics claims he invented the internets. I bet you he wears womens underwear.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Option D on July 07, 2011, 01:45:58 PM
Considering you voted for obama thinking he would improve the economy, you really are not in a position to throw stones. 


lmao!!!!!!!!!! hella weak bro..
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Necrosis on July 07, 2011, 02:10:15 PM
As is evolution vs. Creation? Let's put it this way, if it were as clear cut as people think it is (Evolutionists) there would be no need for debate. Yet its debated everyday. Climate change happens daily as well, never mind the earths temp has risen a degree or two in the last 100-150 years.

its debated by those who know nothing of evolution, the bachmanns, the hovinds etc.. The scientific consensus is 99% in agreement of those in biology. You realize that biology would fail without evolution, that numerous applications have been made based on evolution including medcine and bioinformatics for example. Its debated because of the ramifications of evolution as seen in the eyes of religious which is not so. The vatican even stated it as a fact.

also, mathematics as in nested hierarchy's point out evolutions truth, it follows the pattern predicted to a tee.

you must realize creation is not science right?

do you know much about evolution? please answer, what would you say your understanding on genomics, ecology etc are. good? poor? do you think you could adequetely define what evolution encompasses and provide valid criticism?
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 07, 2011, 02:14:51 PM
its debated by those who know nothing of evolution, the bachmanns, the hovinds etc.. The scientific consensus is 99% in agreement of those in biology. You realize that biology would fail without evolution, that numerous applications have been made based on evolution including medcine and bioinformatics for example. Its debated because of the ramifications of evolution as seen in the eyes of religious which is not so. The vatican even stated it as a fact.

also, mathematics as in nested hierarchy's point out evolutions truth, it follows the pattern predicted to a tee.

you must realize creation is not science right?

do you know much about evolution? please answer, what would you say your understanding on genomics, ecology etc are. good? poor? do you think you could adequetely define what evolution encompasses and provide valid criticism?

LOL...this is why I don't bother anymore. LOL
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Necrosis on July 07, 2011, 02:14:59 PM
As is evolution vs. Creation? Let's put it this way, if it were as clear cut as people think it is (Evolutionists) there would be no need for debate. Yet its debated everyday. Climate change happens daily as well, never mind the earths temp has risen a degree or two in the last 100-150 years.

you just said climate change happens daily. seriously. You dont even know the basics yet spout off like you have a valid position. Surface temperatures are highly variable due to weather patterns, el nina/nino, sunspots etc..

dont you think it wise to not take a firm stance on a subject until you have enough evidence to draw a rational conclusion? I dont know much about economics, the basics yes but i am not well read on the subject. As such, i would try to learn and understand what is being said to form a valid conclusion rather then just take a dogmatic approach. Be a rational human and think for yourself, god gave you this gift of course.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Necrosis on July 07, 2011, 02:20:18 PM
LOL...this is why I don't bother anymore. LOL

it depends on what you are talking about. You see evolution is a theory joe as such it contains numerous facts and hypothesis. Natural selection and selective breeding are facts contained within evolution. The theory makes sense of the facts. If you think alot of scientists are against the theory of evolution then you are dead wrong, its never been falsified, Millions of studies all support it, without it biology makes no sense. However, i agree there is debate within the biological field on specifics within the theory, for example gradual evolution or change over time versus punctuated equilibrium.

can you fathom that evolution is true? how much do you know about it? it feels good to be enlightened joey, to know the truth, to observe reality as it is.

again, biology as a disicpline would collapse if evolution was wrong as genetics, homology, paleantology etc are all based on it. We wouldnt be able to describe anything appropriately if it were  not true.
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 03:36:21 PM

lmao!!!!!!!!!! hella weak bro..

16%  AND/OR 15 MILLION who cant find work in Obama's economy agree w me. 
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: Option D on July 07, 2011, 04:18:31 PM
16%  AND/OR 15 MILLION who cant find work in Obama's economy agree w me. 
yeah it was awesome when he took over right
Title: Re: There has been no global warming since 1998
Post by: AbrahamG on April 10, 2013, 07:28:03 AM
There has been no global warming since 1998
The Telegraph ^ | 7/6/11 | James Delingpole [/b]

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The headline of this post really shouldn’t be controversial. It chimes perfectly with what Kevin “null hypothesis” Trenberth wrote in that notorious 2009 Climategate email to Michael Mann:

The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.

And it’s what Phil Jones admitted in a BBC interview when he said that there had been no “statistically significant” warming since 1995.

Why then am I mentioning it now? W-e-l-l, because just as ze war is to the Germans, Chappaquiddick is to the Kennedy family and that Portland masseuse incident to Al Gore, so the recent lack of warming is to the, er, Warmists. They hate it. It’s an affront to everything they believe in. Damn it, if the world isn’t warming with the alacrity they’d prefer, how are they going to keep the funding gravy train going, and how are they going to persuade an increasingly sceptical populace that the “science” is “settled”, the debate over and the time for action is now? That’s why they can’t reminded of the truth often enough. It’s like salting the slugs that are ruining your garden: necessary, but also kind of fun too.


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Stupid is as stupid does.  Well done, moron.