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Title: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on July 09, 2011, 10:21:50 PM
by putting mud over his eyes then why cant GOD take away my mental illness'???? Life aint fair nor is life easy................but neither is living with mental illness'.

Dear God, these are the following mental illness ive been living with for many years.......

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Panic disorder
Agoraphobia
Body dysmorphic disorder
avoidant personality
major depression
borderline personality disorder and too top it all off.......
SCHIZO AFFECTIVE DISORDER with bipolar symptoms

Growing up/going to a catholic grade school........all i heard was how AMAZING GODS LOVE for us is..........hmmm.
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: outby43 on July 10, 2011, 12:33:03 AM
God works in mysterious ways.  You were given this gift for a reason.  You may not understand now but God has a plan.  Either that or you are a sinner.
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Man of Steel on July 10, 2011, 08:21:36 AM
by putting mud over his eyes then why cant GOD take away my mental illness'???? Life aint fair nor is life easy................but neither is living with mental illness'.

Dear God, these are the following mental illness ive been living with for many years.......

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Panic disorder
Agoraphobia
Body dysmorphic disorder
avoidant personality
major depression
borderline personality disorder and too top it all off.......
SCHIZO AFFECTIVE DISORDER with bipolar symptoms

Growing up/going to a catholic grade school........all i heard was how AMAZING GODS LOVE for us is..........hmmm.

I promise that I will pray for you.  I have witnessed God's hand in the healing of family members suffering from mental illness.
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on July 10, 2011, 08:42:36 AM
God works in mysterious ways.  You were given this gift for a reason.  You may not understand now but God has a plan.  Either that or you are a sinner.

Mental illness' are a GIFT from GOD???? and Im not much of a " SINNER " I guess. Honestly im not sure if i believe in SIN. We make mistakes so that we can LEARN from them. Life is a learning experience.
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 12, 2011, 10:26:38 AM
Mental illness' are a GIFT from GOD???? and Im not much of a " SINNER " I guess. Honestly im not sure if i believe in SIN. We make mistakes so that we can LEARN from them. Life is a learning experience.

Unfortunatly God has 3 answers available to prayer. Yes, No, Maybe.

He also has some pretty sweet outs for not responding..

1. You don't have enough faith
2. He works in mysterious ways

I have to give him credit, he set up a pretty cool system. He gets all the credit for anything good that happens, and none of the responsibility for any of the bad...

Sorry you are dealing with those things...
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Man of Steel on July 12, 2011, 02:07:00 PM
Unfortunatly God has 3 answers available to prayer. Yes, No, Maybe.

He also has some pretty sweet outs for not responding..

1. You don't have enough faith
2. He works in mysterious ways

I have to give him credit, he set up a pretty cool system. He gets all the credit for anything good that happens, and none of the responsibility for any of the bad...

Sorry you are dealing with those things...

How come you're an agnostic and not an atheist?
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 12, 2011, 07:24:42 PM
How come you're an agnostic and not an atheist?

Don't feel like ruling out the possibility of some supreme creator being thingy. I'm atheist when it comes to any god or gods we have names for like Baal, Leviathon, Mithras, Osiris, Jehovah, etc etc.   
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on July 12, 2011, 08:02:54 PM
Unfortunatly God has 3 answers available to prayer. Yes, No, Maybe.

He also has some pretty sweet outs for not responding..

1. You don't have enough faith
2. He works in mysterious ways

I have to give him credit, he set up a pretty cool system. He gets all the credit for anything good that happens, and none of the responsibility for any of the bad...

Sorry you are dealing with those things...
Thanks. Im not trying to sit here and tell my sad life story NOR am i sitting here saying " oh woe is me/feel sorry for me". Nope. Like i said, Life aint Fair nor is life easy...........but neither is living with mental illness'. We all face ISSUES in our life, but again......mental illness' are no walk in the park.
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on July 12, 2011, 08:12:31 PM
Yea. OCD is a terrible mental disorder too, Theres alot more too OCD then being a clean/neat freak and washing your hands. Ocd is what put me in a crisis center 6 years ago.Woke up having a " morbid vision", is part of having UNCONTROLLABLE NIGHTMARES, which is a symptom of OCD. Woke up and felt like i was burning in hell and had a real bad panic attack, but in a nutshell Ive been on medications for 6 years and ive gotten so so so much better. If you met me in person, especialy on one of my real good days, basically where none of my symptoms were acting up, you would probably think there was nothing mentally wrong with me.
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on July 12, 2011, 08:18:16 PM
Like a few people said, " GOD works in mysterious/unknown ways too man", and i know God has a plan for me. Like i said, we all face issues, which is a part of LIFE........You know what LIFE stands for???

L- ocations- ( where you LIVED)

I-SSUES.........and i know that my mental disorders are a part of this category of " life".

F-riends

E-vents.....
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Man of Steel on July 13, 2011, 09:24:16 AM
Like a few people said, " GOD works in mysterious/unknown ways too man", and i know God has a plan for me. Like i said, we all face issues, which is a part of LIFE........You know what LIFE stands for???

L- ocations- ( where you LIVED)

I-SSUES.........and i know that my mental disorders are a part of this category of " life".

F-riends

E-vents.....

I'll give ya another that I love:

F - ull
A - ssurance
I -  n
T - he
H - eart
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 13, 2011, 09:31:47 AM
having Gary Busey Celebrity Apprentice flashbacks  :)
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Man of Steel on July 13, 2011, 10:16:20 AM
having Gary Busey Celebrity Apprentice flashbacks  :)

LOL!!!!  Ole Busey....gotta love him!

Actually learned this acronym from a preacher named Nick Vujicic I've seen speak live....awesome man of God!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrRP3UIiAcY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrRP3UIiAcY&feature=related)
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Deicide on July 14, 2011, 07:20:49 AM
by putting mud over his eyes then why cant GOD take away my mental illness'???? Life aint fair nor is life easy................but neither is living with mental illness'.

Dear God, these are the following mental illness ive been living with for many years.......

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Panic disorder
Agoraphobia
Body dysmorphic disorder
avoidant personality
major depression
borderline personality disorder and too top it all off.......
SCHIZO AFFECTIVE DISORDER with bipolar symptoms

Growing up/going to a catholic grade school........all i heard was how AMAZING GODS LOVE for us is..........hmmm.

There is no god, so don't worry about it.
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: loco on July 14, 2011, 11:35:10 AM
There is no god, so don't worry about it.

There is a God, and for some reason atheists worry about it.    ;D
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Deicide on July 14, 2011, 11:43:02 AM
There is a God, and for some reason atheists worry about it.    ;D

Some do, I never do unless posting here.

The OP is complaining about something that is better explained without a god than with one. Occam's Razor.
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: loco on July 14, 2011, 12:01:13 PM
Some do, I never do unless posting here.

The OP is complaining about something that is better explained without a god than with one. Occam's Razor.

 ;D

William of Ockham himself was a theist. He believed in God, and thus in some validity of scripture; he writes that

"nothing ought to be posited without a reason given, unless it is self-evident (literally, known through itself) or known by experience or proved by the authority of Sacred Scripture."

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ockham/
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on July 14, 2011, 03:25:05 PM
Religion causes mental illness'. Ive been trying to unbrainwash/unpoision my mind from being on medications. Worldly Religion has been extremely corrupted,twisted,perverted by man.
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on July 14, 2011, 04:11:31 PM
Annelise Michel.......aka " The exorcism of Emily Rose" had EXTREMELY FULL BLOWN SEVERE........

PARANOID SCHIZOPHENIA
" CATATONIC SCHIZOPHRENIA"
and...Schizo affective disorder AND Epilepsy. Everytime her symptoms of SCHIZOPHRENIA acted up, they triggered her Epileptic symptoms to act up and vice versa.

If you watch the movie, they even mention symptoms of SCHIZOPHRENIA.
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 14, 2011, 04:57:02 PM
Religion causes mental illness'. Ive been trying to unbrainwash/unpoision my mind from being on medications. Worldly Religion has been extremely corrupted,twisted,perverted by man.

Probably because it was created by man... just a guess..
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Deicide on July 14, 2011, 05:42:11 PM
;D

William of Ockham himself was a theist. He believed in God, and thus in some validity of scripture; he writes that

"nothing ought to be posited without a reason given, unless it is self-evident (literally, known through itself) or known by experience or proved by the authority of Sacred Scripture."

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ockham/

He did not know better so he is forgiven.
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: loco on July 15, 2011, 05:56:22 AM
He did not know better so he is forgiven.

 ;D
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Butterbean on July 16, 2011, 07:05:10 AM
Worldly Religion has been extremely corrupted,twisted,perverted by man.

Agree.




Annelise Michel.......aka " The exorcism of Emily Rose" had EXTREMELY FULL BLOWN SEVERE........

PARANOID SCHIZOPHENIA
" CATATONIC SCHIZOPHRENIA"
and...Schizo affective disorder AND Epilepsy. Everytime her symptoms of SCHIZOPHRENIA acted up, they triggered her Epileptic symptoms to act up and vice versa.

If you watch the movie, they even mention symptoms of SCHIZOPHRENIA.


Do you recommend this movie?
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: probound2 on July 16, 2011, 01:26:44 PM
Worldly Religion has been extremely corrupted,twisted,perverted by man.

Without doubt! The bible even warns/warned about this very dilemma! So, who/what is teaching what the bible teaches?
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on July 17, 2011, 10:28:02 PM
Agree.





Do you recommend this movie?
If youve never seen it then YES.

" Dark Shadowy apparitions" is mentioned in the movie, and which is a symptom of SCHIZO AFFECTIVE DISORDER, which i myself experience.

When " Emily " is in her school cafeteria and the noises of the spoons/fork clanking againest plates,bowls,etc.......Which is another symptom of Schizophrenia, meaning........with SCHIZOPHRENIA, all of your SENSES are VERY ENHANCED, like " hearing ". Some of the slightest noises can be very " loud " and very irritating.

Another scene from the movie/symptom of Schizophrenia/schizo affective disorder, is when the PRIEST is talking about when EMILY would try and eat, she couldnt " swallow " her food/ " the demons " wouldnt let her. Back before i was on medication, i would experience the same thing. I would hear voices, telling me if i tried swallowing my food, i would choke and if i did swallow my food, it felt like i wasnt controlling my own throat/swallowing functions on my own, which is also a symptom of SCHIZO AFFECTIVE DISORDER.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoaffective_disorder Under " signs/symptoms" youll come across some of the things that i just mentioned AND that are mentioned in the movie.
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Butterbean on July 18, 2011, 11:45:15 AM
If youve never seen it then YES.

" Dark Shadowy apparitions" is mentioned in the movie, and which is a symptom of SCHIZO AFFECTIVE DISORDER, which i myself experience.

When " Emily " is in her school cafeteria and the noises of the spoons/fork clanking againest plates,bowls,etc.......Which is another symptom of Schizophrenia, meaning........with SCHIZOPHRENIA, all of your SENSES are VERY ENHANCED, like " hearing ". Some of the slightest noises can be very " loud " and very irritating.

Another scene from the movie/symptom of Schizophrenia/schizo affective disorder, is when the PRIEST is talking about when EMILY would try and eat, she couldnt " swallow " her food/ " the demons " wouldnt let her. Back before i was on medication, i would experience the same thing. I would hear voices, telling me if i tried swallowing my food, i would choke and if i did swallow my food, it felt like i wasnt controlling my own throat/swallowing functions on my own, which is also a symptom of SCHIZO AFFECTIVE DISORDER.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoaffective_disorder Under " signs/symptoms" youll come across some of the things that i just mentioned AND that are mentioned in the movie.

Thanks, I've never seen it...I don't usually watch scary movies but may check this one out keeping in mind the things you've said here.

Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: probound2 on July 20, 2011, 04:31:59 PM

Religion causes mental illness'. Ive been trying to unbrainwash/unpoision my mind from being on medications. Worldly Religion has been extremely corrupted,twisted,perverted by man.



Without doubt! The bible even warns/warned about this very dilemma! So, who/what is teaching what the bible teaches?


Oops! Forgot to post some of the scripts for this comment.


Matthew 7:15-17

"(15) “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. (16) By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? (17) Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit."


1 John 4:20

"Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen."


2 Corinthians 11:13-15

"(13) For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. (14) And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. (15) It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve."


2 Corinthians 4:4

"Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God."




 
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 20, 2011, 09:46:31 PM


Oops! Forgot to post some of the scripts for this comment.


Matthew 7:15-17

"(15) “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. (16) By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? (17) Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit."


1 John 4:20

"Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen."


2 Corinthians 11:13-15

"(13) For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. (14) And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. (15) It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve."


2 Corinthians 4:4

"Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God."




 


I should write a book saying anyone who disagrees with it is foolish, or of an evil spirit..... brilliant!
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on August 04, 2011, 03:27:41 PM
and just too make things clear........when i say " worldly religion".........I am talking about Catholicism,christianity,etc.....
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Butterbean on August 05, 2011, 06:55:10 AM
and just too make things clear........when i say " worldly religion".........I am talking about Catholicism,christianity,etc.....

Why do you consider Christianity "worldly?"

Can you please share your definition of Christianity?
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on August 21, 2011, 09:17:48 PM
Too me.........Worldly Means " something that occurs all over the world". Therefore Christianity/catholicism, etc.........are " WORLDLY RELIGIONS". I dont have a definition of CHRISTIANITY.
Title: Re: Jesus healed the blind man............
Post by: Butterbean on August 22, 2011, 07:45:18 AM
Too me.........Worldly Means " something that occurs all over the world". Therefore Christianity/catholicism, etc.........are " WORLDLY RELIGIONS". I dont have a definition of CHRISTIANITY.

Oh, I tend to think of "worldly" as defined more like this:

world·ly (wûrldl)
adj. world·li·er, world·li·est

1. Of, relating to, or devoted to the temporal world.

1. not spiritual; mundane or temporal
2. Also worldly-minded absorbed in or concerned with material things or matters that are immediately relevant

Do you feel that Christianity and Roman Catholicism are the same? 


I still haven't seen that movie...will probably wait till it's free on the HD box!