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Title: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2011, 06:17:40 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8715823/Martin-Luther-King-memorial-made-in-China.html


They couldnt find a few unemployed blacks to build this thing? 

Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2011, 06:27:20 AM
Martin Luther King memorial made in China


It is perhaps a fitting tribute to racial co-operation. However, the decision to outsource to China the carving of a new national memorial to Martin Luther King has raised eyebrows in the United States.


The 30ft-tall statue, which forms the centrepiece of a $120 million (£73 million), four-acre memorial to Dr King, opened to the public on Monday on the National Mall in Washington. It is the only memorial on the Mall that does not honour a president or fallen soldiers.

Standing in the shadow of the Washington Monument, the statue shows Dr King emerging from a mountain of Chinese granite with his arms crossed and is called The Stone of Hope.

However, there has been controversy over the choice of Lei Yixin, a 57-year-old master sculptor from Changsha in Hunan province, to carry out the work. Critics have openly asked why a black, or at least an American, artist was not chosen and even remarked that Dr King appears slightly Asian in Mr Lei's rendering.

Mr Lei, who has in the past carved two statues of Mao Tse-tung, one of which stands in the former garden of Mao Anqing, the Chinese leader's son, carried out almost all of the work in Changsha.

More than 150 granite blocks, weighing some 1,600 tons, were then shipped from Xiamen to the port of Baltimore, and reassembled by a team of 100 workmen, including ten Chinese stone masons brought over specifically for the project.
 

"I have seen probably 50 sculptures of my dad, and I would say 47 of them are not good reflections," he said, to USA Today."This particular artist: he has done a good job."

However, Ed Dwight, a sculptor in Denver, said Dr King would be "turning over in his grave" if he knew his likeness had been conceived by someone living under a Communist regime.

"He would rise up from his grave and walk into their offices and go, 'How dare you?'"

Mr Lei was chosen after the memorial's fund-raisers observed him at work at a stone carver's symposium in Minnesota. Amid the criticism, the architects in charge of the project said that they had visited Mr Lei's studio in Changsha to find he had already carved several versions of the work.

He has also prepared a bronze bust of Barack Obama which he intends to gift to the president.

The new memorial is next to the Lincoln Memorial, on whose steps Dr King delivered his "I have a dream" speech in 1963, a defining moment in the American Civil Rights movement. The statue will be officially dedicated on Sunday, the anniversary of the speech, but the park has opened in advance to visitors. Around 400,000 people are expected in the run-up to Sunday's event.

The statue, meanwhile, will be 11ft taller than the statues in the Lincoln and Jefferson memorials. It is unclear how much money was saved by making it in China.



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Unfreaking real.   Disgusting. 
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: dr.chimps on August 23, 2011, 06:41:43 AM
You forgot about the designer of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in your rush to racism, thimble-brain.   ::)
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2011, 06:44:50 AM
You forgot about the designer of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in your rush to racism, thimble-brain.   ::)

Your point? 

Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: dr.chimps on August 23, 2011, 06:47:22 AM
Your point? 
Now you can't read!? Oh brother.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on August 23, 2011, 06:54:57 AM
You know ... it's quite funny, 333386. I've NEVER seen you once post anything remotely related to bb'ing. Tell me something. Do you even like bb'ing ?? Or do you just prefer to showcase the evils of the black race ? Or, as some of you have been popularized in saying, the " negroid " race. LOL. What year is this again ?? LOL !!
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: dr.chimps on August 23, 2011, 07:03:43 AM
You know ... it's quite funny, 333386. I've NEVER seen you once post anything remotely related to bb'ing. Tell me something. Do you even like bb'ing ?? Or do you just prefer to showcase the evils of the black race ? Or, as some of you have been popularized in saying, the " negroid " race. LOL. What year is this again ?? LOL !!
He just posts these horrible stories so he can 'exercise' his racism. Kind of like the pyro who sets the fire, and then returns when a crowd has assembled to watch the building burn. 
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2011, 07:06:31 AM
Yawn - as opposed to saying:   "This is fucked up, we should be building this stuff instead of the chinese"

No, make the poster the issue. 

Typical and predictable.   
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: dr.chimps on August 23, 2011, 07:08:59 AM
Yawn - as opposed to saying:   "This is fucked up, we should be building this stuff instead of the chinese"

No, make the poster the issue. 

Typical and predictable.   
If anyone is 'typical and predictable' it's you. Same shit, different day. Not an imaginative bone in your body. ::)
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Stark on August 23, 2011, 07:12:14 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8715823/Martin-Luther-King-memorial-made-in-China.html


They couldnt find a few unemployed blacks to build this thing? 



;D
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on August 23, 2011, 07:18:30 AM
Very good posts, Dr. Chimps. Very good posts. :)
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on August 23, 2011, 07:29:48 AM
However, Ed Dwight, a sculptor in Denver, said Dr King would be "turning over in his grave" if he knew his likeness had been conceived by someone living under a Communist regime.

Speaking for the dead.  ::)

American vision of foreigners.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n1vkfLObT4k/R97q90PnrCI/AAAAAAAABLU/E40tAMdD8A4/s320/commienazis.jpg)
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: garebear on August 23, 2011, 07:30:52 AM
Speaking for the dead.  ::)

American vision of foreigners.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n1vkfLObT4k/R97q90PnrCI/AAAAAAAABLU/E40tAMdD8A4/s320/commienazis.jpg)
I don't understand this post.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 23, 2011, 07:33:31 AM
You know ... it's quite funny, 333386. I've NEVER seen you once post anything remotely related to bb'ing. Tell me something. Do you even like bb'ing ?? Or do you just prefer to showcase the evils of the black race ? Or, as some of you have been popularized in saying, the " negroid " race. LOL. What year is this again ?? LOL !!


You're actually on to something...I've never seen number boy post anything bodybuilding related, has he competed, does he work in the fitness industry???. 
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2011, 07:36:32 AM

You're actually on to something...I've never seen number boy post anything bodybuilding related, has he competed, does he work in the fitness industry???. 

Did 5 shows - already posted a few pics awhile back - and trust me - I dont have man boobs like you do. 
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 23, 2011, 07:39:48 AM
Did 5 shows - already posted a few pics awhile back - and trust me - I dont have man boobs like you do. 


Really, please show us those pictures
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2011, 07:43:06 AM

Really, please show us those pictures

Go ask TA.     

Never did roids or the sauce.   

Have been lifting since 16, competed in track n field Div 1 in college in the throwing events, have done various martial arts since 17 y/o. 

Did a few shows for shits and giggles, but it got boring going through all that nonsense and now I just do martial arts and lift.   

First show I did was way back  - Ronnie guest posed and Kai won the overall. 
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: jedibrat on August 23, 2011, 07:48:41 AM
Dr. King would have been pleased by this example of racial harmony and cooperation. Now children, lets all join hands and sing Kumbayah.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2011, 07:54:13 AM
Dr. King would have been pleased by this example of racial harmony and cooperation. Now children, lets all join hands and sing Kumbayah.

At least his family got paid


________________________ _______________________

KING 'MONUMENT TO GREED'
AP

Last Updated: 3:29 AM, April 18, 2009




WASHINGTON -- The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s family has charged the foundation building a monument to the civil-rights leader on the National Mall about $800,000 to use his words and image -- and at least one scholar thinks that Dr. King would find such an arrangement offensive.  

The memorial is being paid for almost entirely through a fund-raising campaign led by the Martin Luther King Jr. National Memorial Project Foundation.

"I don't think the Jefferson family, the Lincoln family [or] any other group of family ancestors has been paid a licensing fee for a memorial in Washington," said Cambridge University historian David Garrow, author of a Pulitzer Prize-winning biography of Dr. King. ". . . [He would've been] absolutely scandalized."

Financial documents revealed that the foundation paid $761,160 in 2007 to Intellectual Properties Management Inc., an entity run by the King family. They also showed that a $71,700 "management" fee was paid to the family estate in 2003.

NEW YORK POST is a registered trademark of NYP Holdings, Inc.



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/item_4DTe3bj9QcHd7Y2Hpvmp1O#ixzz1VrclAe2D

Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: ManBearPig... on August 23, 2011, 08:00:43 AM
that's awesome, generation nothingness profiting off their dad taking bricks to the head.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2011, 08:02:25 AM
that's awesome, generation nothingness profiting off their dad taking bricks to the head.

Keepin it real. 
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: _bruce_ on August 23, 2011, 10:09:24 AM
Martin won't recover.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Schmoff on August 23, 2011, 10:14:30 AM
haha, good shit!!

 :D
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Nails on August 23, 2011, 10:18:40 AM
what? NO love for Timothy Jones   ???
 

(http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2011-08/64164378.jpg)
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: The True Adonis on August 23, 2011, 10:28:12 AM
Go ask TA.     

Never did roids or the sauce.   

Have been lifting since 16, competed in track n field Div 1 in college in the throwing events, have done various martial arts since 17 y/o. 

Did a few shows for shits and giggles, but it got boring going through all that nonsense and now I just do martial arts and lift.   

First show I did was way back  - Ronnie guest posed and Kai won the overall. 
He did a few shows and presented a very good physique.  I have seen the pictures.

The NAACP was actually outraged at this and rightfully so.  American Granite should have been used along with an American Artist in my opinion.  The symbolism means too much to just outsource it, although King`s message was one of unity so I do not think he would have minded.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: claymore on August 23, 2011, 10:32:38 AM
Martin Luther King.... ::)
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: loco on August 23, 2011, 01:04:52 PM
He looks Chinese.

(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/.7nFf6ytKP70vWem5QC.iw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD00MTA7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/513007f3c3b08212f60e6a706700652e.jpg)



Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2011, 01:06:51 PM
Why didnt MLK's family at least demand that americans build this thing as opposed to the chinks? 
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: bradistani on August 23, 2011, 01:11:37 PM
Why didnt MLK's family at least demand that americans build this thing as opposed to the chinks? 

because it's (relatively) dirt cheap to do it in china  ???
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: garebear on August 23, 2011, 02:45:08 PM
Why didnt MLK's family at least demand that americans build this thing as opposed to the chinks
I wish you'd get banned for this shit.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2011, 02:53:11 PM
I wish you'd get banned for this shit.

Yeah, posting about jerking off into someones' hair is much better. 


Bro - did you get TBI while on tour or something? 
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 24, 2011, 12:12:54 AM

Really, please show us those pictures

Please. Get bent you turd of a physique.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 24, 2011, 05:29:26 AM
Speaking for the dead.  ::)

American vision of foreigners.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n1vkfLObT4k/R97q90PnrCI/AAAAAAAABLU/E40tAMdD8A4/s320/commienazis.jpg)

Bet that's what your freaky dutch papa looks like.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 24, 2011, 05:32:41 AM
I wish you'd get banned for this shit.

Some of us believe in Freedom of Speech.





















Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2012, 02:49:39 PM
Correcting the Martin Luther King memorial mistake
By Rachel Manteuffel, Friday, January 13, 4:44 PM



Five months ago, in this space, I wrote that something was wrong with the Martin Luther King Jr. National Memorial. The quotation inscribed on the monument’s left flank had been so badly excerpted that a modest statement of King’s was turned into a boast.

At the time, it wasn’t clear how or why this had happened, but what seemed likely, at least to me, was that nothing would be done about it. Things that are etched in stone seldom are changed, especially in Washington, which is not famous for admitting error, righting wrongs, getting things done in a timely fashion, or getting things done at all.

It turns out I was right about the error but wrong about Washington. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar told The Post today that the quote will be corrected. He has given the National Park Service 30 days — because “things only happen when you put a deadline on it” — to consult with the King Memorial Foundation, family members and other interested parties and come up with a more accurate alternative.

“This is important because Dr. King and his presence on the Mall is a forever presence for the United States of America, and we have to make sure that we get it right,” Salazar said.

Consider it no small victory for the power of public opinion over the sometimes ponderous inertia of bureaucracy, and also for the power of words — King’s words — to be heard.

“I was a drum major for justice, peace and righteousness,” the monument says. What an odd choice for a quote, I thought, when I visited in August before its scheduled dedication. It sounded almost . . . conceited. And it was past tense, as though King was speaking from the grave. It didn’t sound like King at all.

I went looking for the context, read the whole speech and found there was a reason it didn’t sound like him. “If you want to say I was a drum major, say I was . . . ” is how King began his statement. As many have since pointed out, the “if” and the “you” entirely change the meaning. To King, being a self-aggrandizing drum major was not a good thing; if you wanted to call him that, he said, at least say it was in the service of good causes.

Some important people who hadn’t seen the quote yet read the op-ed and agreed. The poet Maya Angelou, who knew and worked with King, said the truncated quote made King seem like “an arrogant twit.” Roy Peter Clark, an expert on the use of words, wrote for CNN, “Everything I’ve learned about the language of enshrinement suggests that the inscription on the King monument should be revised.” Martin Luther King III told CNN: “That was not what Dad said.”

Comedy Central satirist Stephen Colbert noted that it was “to the point. Not Dr. King’s point, but still. Brevity is the soul of saving money on chiseling fees.”

Even the sidewalk T-shirt vendors chose an image from the memorial’s plans rather than the real thing. Because, it turned out, the original plans included the full, in-context quote. After the plans were approved, the lead architect and the sculptor thought the stone would look better with fewer words. They did the editing themselves, without considering the violence it would do to the quote’s meaning. It was as simple as that.

“I do not think it’s an accurate portrayal of what Dr. King was,” Salazar told us Friday.

How sweet, then, that King can still be giving to us on his 83rd birthday, though he lived for only 39 of them. He can give us this story of many different Americans using their tools at hand — celebrity, media, commerce, satire, academia — to ask their government to right a wrong.

And King, a lover of words and a profound symbol to all of us, demanded action. Because of him, at least this time, the system worked.

manteuffelr@washpost.com

Rachel Manteuffel works in The Post’s Editorial Department.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mlk-memorials-drum-major-quote-will-be-corrected-interior-secretary-says/2012/01/13/gIQAnjYvwP_print.html






Damn chinks   
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Roger Bacon on January 13, 2012, 03:19:25 PM
He looks Chinese.

(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/.7nFf6ytKP70vWem5QC.iw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD00MTA7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/513007f3c3b08212f60e6a706700652e.jpg)

What the fuck?

Did they do that on purpose?  Being Asian, was it unintentional?  Hilarious!
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: garebear on January 13, 2012, 04:37:45 PM
Some of us believe in Freedom of Speech.






















Go fuck yourself and your whore mother.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2012, 07:04:32 PM
Getting treatment yet? 
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Roger Bacon on January 14, 2012, 02:16:00 AM
Go fuck yourself and your whore mother.

Watch it faggot, we're not going to tip toe around you.  Don't think you're going to take away our right to speak our mind because you're a sensitive little girl.  If you don't like it, go post on Oprah Winfrey's forum, I'm sure she has one.


















Fucking Chink Lover
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: garebear on January 14, 2012, 07:13:53 AM
Watch it faggot, we're not going to tip toe around you.  Don't think you're going to take away our right to speak our mind because you're a sensitive little girl.  If you don't like it, go post on Oprah Winfrey's forum, I'm sure she has one.


















Fucking Chink Lover
You're the one that's a virgin, right?

Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: JBGRAY on January 15, 2012, 12:25:18 PM
Why so angry with the "chinks?"  They're over there with largely the same concerns as us......making a bit of money and making sure their families are fed.  The Chinese masons received a work order and completed it. 

If you're going to blame anyone, blame the morons in US society who vote the way they do.  They are the ones who put the politicians in their places of power.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: oliolioli on January 19, 2012, 12:42:57 AM
If the Chinese masonry guy was chosen to save money, then you can take the MLK Monument team to task.  But if it was for skill or artistry, there's nothing to say really.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: _bruce_ on January 19, 2012, 09:29:44 AM
Very strange all of this... the thing is well crafted but the dude didn't get Luther's face right.
The outsourcing is just insane - if this was a sane world the people responsible for this would get decapitated.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 12, 2012, 07:09:36 AM
http://www.wtop.com/109/2705938/Quote-on-MLK-Memorial-to-be-removed


Lol.    What a FAIL.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: The True Adonis on December 12, 2012, 07:56:04 AM
They should demolish it and start over.  Maybe not even make a new one.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on December 12, 2012, 12:08:14 PM
They should demolish it and start over.  Maybe not even make a new one.


Yes...despite where the source of this post came from, I think its an embarrassment to have the statue made in China.....we have companies like American Granite that would have done a much better statue because from the look of it, all its missing is a ninja sword and some chopsticks.... ::)
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 12, 2012, 12:09:12 PM

Yes...despite where the source of this post came from, I think its an embarrassment to have the statue made in China.....we have companies like American Granite that would have done a much better statue because from the look of it, all its missing is a ninja sword and some chopsticks.... ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 12, 2012, 01:22:36 PM
You're the one that's a virgin, right?



Yeah, but I'm feeling really good lately like I might be getting to second base soon.
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: magikusar on December 13, 2012, 05:25:11 PM
whos mlk?





















 ;D
Title: Re: MLK Memorial made in China and sculpted with 10 Chinese Masons
Post by: 24KT on December 15, 2012, 08:18:35 AM
I wish you'd get banned for this shit.

Agreed.