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Title: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: supernick on August 24, 2011, 09:44:55 AM
A Texan’s Answer to Welfare

Submitted by Trevor on June 11, 2011

Reportedly from the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco, Texas, Nov 18, 2010.
 



Put me in charge
 
Put me in charge of food stamps. I’ll get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese, and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke, or get tattoos and piercings, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your “home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.
 
In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good.”
 
Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s rights, realize that all of the above are voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.
 
If we taxpayers are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.
 
And finally, while you are on Government subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will lose your voting privileges while you are receiving a Government welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job!”
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 24, 2011, 10:44:12 AM
Best thing I've read this week!

GOOD
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: tu_holmes on August 24, 2011, 10:46:44 AM
What does getting a tattoo or a piercing have to do with "Medicaid"?

Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 24, 2011, 10:47:59 AM
And if you are fat, do you have to burn it off before you can get anything to eat ?
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 24, 2011, 10:49:57 AM
What does getting a tattoo or a piercing have to do with "Medicaid"?


A fresh tattoo can get infected of course....you are not allowed to go outdoors in your free time as well, you could be bitten by a bug or twist your ankle.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Jack T. Cross on August 24, 2011, 10:52:00 AM
What does getting a tattoo or a piercing have to do with "Medicaid"?



Haha..I noticed that, too.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: tu_holmes on August 24, 2011, 10:52:52 AM
A fresh tattoo can get infected of course....you are not allowed to go outdoors in your free time as well, you could be bitten by a bug or twist your ankle.

I'm not against the entire premise of the article, but there is really some lines there... Sure, I can be on board with the food stamps and even the housing, but rules for medicaid against tattoos? That seems just weird.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: ManBearPig... on August 24, 2011, 10:54:32 AM
What does getting a tattoo or a piercing have to do with "Medicaid"?



people have paid some laser treatment places thousands through medicaid for tattoo removal.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 24, 2011, 10:56:12 AM
Maybe they can allow those poor people to vote only if it's Republican... ;)
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: tu_holmes on August 24, 2011, 10:57:46 AM
people have paid some laser treatment places thousands through medicaid for tattoo removal.

Ok, so say no laser removal of tattoos by medicaid.

Has nothing to do with having one... I do not see the connection.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Jack T. Cross on August 24, 2011, 11:16:14 AM
Yeah, I'm all for this.  The wealthy have been busy using their tax breaks to create all these jobs, yet we've got all these tattooed, ho-ho loving smokers out there taking in fat welfare checks.  I'm pissed as fuck.  ::)

Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 24, 2011, 11:18:01 AM
Yeah, I'm all for this.  The wealthy have been busy using their tax breaks to create all these jobs, yet we've got all these tattooed, ho-ho loving smokers out there taking in fat welfare checks.  I'm pissed as fuck.


I think there could be more than a few tattooed, ho-ho loving smokers posting on getbig....
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: RustyTrenbolona on August 24, 2011, 11:22:13 AM
What is it with tattoos these days anyway? Everyone has one. What the fuck is so good about em? Oh and the "i only like guys with tattoos' skanks....inexplicable
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Jack T. Cross on August 24, 2011, 11:35:39 AM
I think there could be more than a few tattooed, ho-ho loving smokers posting on getbig....

Well, we definitely have some ding-dong lovers who are notorious pole smokers.  If "supernick" was in charge, he'd have them on treadmills to create electricity for the getbig server.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Jack T. Cross on August 24, 2011, 11:38:17 AM
What is it with tattoos these days anyway? Everyone has one. What the fuck is so good about em? Oh and the "i only like guys with tattoos' skanks....inexplicable

With chicks and their own tattoos, it's funny how the trampstamp thing just blew the fuck up.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: 240 is Back on August 24, 2011, 11:42:20 AM
like!
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Lord Humungous on August 24, 2011, 12:28:08 PM
Tattoos are for homos
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 24, 2011, 12:40:47 PM
A Texan’s Answer to Welfare

Submitted by Trevor on June 11, 2011

Reportedly from the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco, Texas, Nov 18, 2010.
 



Put me in charge
 
Put me in charge of food stamps. I’ll get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese, and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke, or get tattoos and piercings, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your “home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.
 
In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good.”
 
Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s rights, realize that all of the above are voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.
 
If we taxpayers are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.
 
And finally, while you are on Government subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will lose your voting privileges while you are receiving a Government welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job!”




Whoever wrote this is a complete nutcase.  Some of the ideals are ok but other items such as taking away people's voting rights, forced medical procedures, and etc is ridiculous and would actually cost more money than what's currently out there not to mention that Norplant is illegal to use in the U.S for very good reasons.  This should be done for people who are prisoners who have broken the law but being unemployed isn't a crime.    


 

 
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: WillRiker on August 24, 2011, 12:44:05 PM


Whoever wrote this is a complete nutcase.  Some of the ideals are ok but other items such as taking away people's voting rights, forced medical procedures, and etc is ridiculous and would actually cost more money than what's currently out there.  This should be done for people who are prisoners who have broken the law but being unemployed isn't a crime.   


 

 

agree 100%. There are a lot  of Americans who desperately want a job. This guy is an idiot.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2011, 12:46:01 PM
A Texan’s Answer to Welfare

Submitted by Trevor on June 11, 2011

Reportedly from the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco, Texas, Nov 18, 2010.
 



Put me in charge
 
Put me in charge of food stamps. I’ll get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese, and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke, or get tattoos and piercings, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your “home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.
 
In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good.”
 
Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s rights, realize that all of the above are voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.
 
If we taxpayers are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.
 
And finally, while you are on Government subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will lose your voting privileges while you are receiving a Government welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job!”



Bingo!   


Add in a chain gang in the 100 degree heat, mandatory PT at 5:30 am, etc, and we are good to go for these parasites.   
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 24, 2011, 12:46:24 PM
you do not get to post on Getbig unless you are a self made millionaire.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: tu_holmes on August 24, 2011, 12:47:19 PM

Bingo!   


Add in a chain gang in the 100 degree heat, mandatory PT at 5:30 am, etc, and we are good to go for these parasites.   

Sometimes you are really scary dude.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2011, 12:54:03 PM
Sometimes you are really scary dude.

Fine - take out the chain gang - but mandatory PT at 5:30 am muster is a must.   
 
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: tu_holmes on August 24, 2011, 12:55:35 PM
Fine - take out the chain gang - but mandatory PT at 5:30 am muster is a must.   
 

How about we just tell them that they can't go spending money on things like laser surgery and cup cakes?

I'm even ok with the inspections on the government housing, but you can't tell them to make up their bed.

Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2011, 01:01:32 PM
How about we just tell them that they can't go spending money on things like laser surgery and cup cakes?

I'm even ok with the inspections on the government housing, but you can't tell them to make up their bed.



Screw that - I would have these bums in the parking lot doing PT twice a day and make it like FMJ 



Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 24, 2011, 01:01:53 PM
agree 100%. There are a lot  of Americans who desperately want a job. This guy is an idiot.

The majority of unemployed people are there because their job is obsolete and no longer needed due to technology along with increased dropout rates from high schools.  

I would simply recommend that the unemployed need to be re-educated to learn a new trade that keeps up with advances in technology, parents need to be punished for their kids dropping out of school.  Food stamps cards can be programmed to disallow the purchase of junk food just like it does with cigarettes and alcohol.  

We also need to reduce our dependence on resources.  Wind Turbines are now very inexpensive to purchase and install and use and could cut electric bills a great deal plus the newer ones are rated at 130mph winds.  I'm installing 3 of them on my home next year for about 2,500 dollars which will pay for themselves in less than a years time.  In fact, I'll actually get paid from the electric company on top of that.  Gardening should also be utilized as well so that we can stay healthier and reduce grocery bills.  During the summer, if I'm wanting a snack, I go out to the garden and pick a cucumber, cut it into slices and add a sprinkle of Celtic sea salt for a delicious snack along with some walnuts from the trees for a good source of protein and healthy fats.    

Most important, budgeting and money management should be taught in school along with home economics for everyone.  Learning to cook from scratch is healthier and cheaper than buying some processed frozen pizza or going out to eat.  There are some things you simply can't get from a store like my Thomas Jefferson sweet potato biscuits or my Spicy Grilled Catfish Stew.

We need to move forward in advancing our job skills and backwards into working the land and harassing earth's resources.    
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 24, 2011, 01:04:56 PM
There are some things you simply can't get from a store like my Thomas Jefferson sweet potato biscuits or my Spicy Grilled Catfish Stew.

Okay True Adonis...  ::)










 ;D
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: supernick on August 24, 2011, 01:09:16 PM
Well, we definitely have some ding-dong lovers who are notorious pole smokers.  If "supernick" was in charge, he'd have them on treadmills to create electricity for the getbig server.
Ha ,, u bet ur ass i would!!!
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: RagingBull on August 24, 2011, 02:10:21 PM
What does getting a tattoo or a piercing have to do with "Medicaid"?



I think he's trying to say that if you have money to get tattoos and piercings you shouldn't be on Medicaid.  Also, the risk associated with unsanitary piercings and tattoos (hepatitis etc) will coast taxpayers. 
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: tu_holmes on August 24, 2011, 02:13:40 PM
I think he's trying to say that if you have money to get tattoos and piercings you shouldn't be on Medicaid.  Also, the risk associated with unsanitary piercings and tattoos (hepatitis etc) will coast taxpayers. 

Well, tattoo shops and the like, in my experience are very sanitary, however, do you mean that if some woman has her ears pierced when she's a kid, or if the person has a tattoo when they were making good money, but now make none, that their tattoos negate them being able to get Medicaid?

Seems like a lot of "government intervention" that will cost more to police than it would to just say, medicaid will not pay for X, Y, or Z.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: supernick on August 24, 2011, 02:15:05 PM
they saying that u should not be spending money on anything unnessary untill u get a job
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: The RedMeatKid on August 24, 2011, 02:15:08 PM
I've always thought work camps would be perfect for the scum who collect welfare.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: bradistani on August 24, 2011, 02:47:46 PM
A Texan’s Answer to Welfare

Submitted by Trevor on June 11, 2011

Reportedly from the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco, Texas, Nov 18, 2010.
 



Put me in charge.....
 



rather draconian don't you think ?  sounds like some shit that communist china would dream up.. only those girls would eat your babies and pets  :-X
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Howard on August 24, 2011, 02:59:34 PM
A Texan’s Answer to Welfare

Submitted by Trevor on June 11, 2011

Reportedly from the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco, Texas, Nov 18, 2010.
 



Put me in charge
 
Put me in charge of food stamps. I’ll get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese, and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke, or get tattoos and piercings, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your “home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.
 
In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good.”
 
Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s rights, realize that all of the above are voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.
 
If we taxpayers are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.
 
And finally, while you are on Government subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will lose your voting privileges while you are receiving a Government welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job!”


Love it!
Hmmm, I wonder how many getbiggers would lose out if this was put into law worldwide AND their mom's kicked them out of the basement.???????????????
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: The Grim Lifter on August 24, 2011, 03:15:35 PM
The majority of unemployed people are there because their job is obsolete and no longer needed due to technology along with increased dropout rates from high schools.  
    

Some people yes, but most are fucking lazy
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on August 24, 2011, 03:24:32 PM
If the society can't provide job for everyone then in what position is it to punish those who don't have a job?
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Howard on August 24, 2011, 03:42:53 PM
If the society can't provide job for everyone then in what position is it to punish those who don't have a job?
I honestly don't think they should be punished.
BUT< I don't see why "we" give them food stamps and free health care ( medicaid in the USA).

For example, as a working man or woman you actually PAY into Medicare and UNemployemnt Ins.
That is why I think getting Medicare after 65 and UNemployment bennefits for a few weeks is EARNED by those who work.

Medicaid , foodstamps and welfare checks and simply given to those who don't have it or don't work.
They didn't have to earn it, so they we don't need to give it to them via our tax dallars.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 24, 2011, 04:11:28 PM
If the society can't provide job for everyone then in what position is it to punish those who don't have a job?

Why would you consider NOT giving away my money to them as punishment? Your thought process is weird
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: tu_holmes on August 24, 2011, 04:38:56 PM
Why would you consider NOT giving away my money to them as punishment? Your thought process is weird

Dude... You're part of the tax system!

Your job is paid 100 percent by the tax payers!

Maybe if we got rid of  your job and made you get a job that produced a good, then maybe our GDP would be higher.

Who takes WHO'S money?
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: mcfinn70 on August 24, 2011, 04:40:49 PM
As a liberal, I have to say I agree with most of what you outlined.  I want people to have a safety-net not a free ride. The only issue I have is voting.  If we are going to deny people the right to vote based on receiving government assistance then we would need to deny the vote to military contractors, builders, veterans, anyone who receives benefits from the government.  

Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on August 24, 2011, 04:46:43 PM
By punishment I meant all these suggestions of work camps and the sorts, like people should work 8 hours a day to earn their 3 dollars worth of food stamps, sorry but I deem that ridiculous.

Why should we offer jobless and poor people money from the tax money? I don't think person needs any better arguments than that it is a decent thing to do. Yes, tax payers suffer a little. What is the result if tax payers don't have to suffer? People without welfare suffer -> possible crimes -> everybody suffers -> jail time and other government involvement -> total costs rise to obscene numbers.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Reeves on August 24, 2011, 05:04:38 PM
Let 'em pick produce in the fields.  In all seriousness this will ultimately reduce the illegal immigrant population, result in these "captive" employees paying their way.

Additionally I think this should be societal de rigueur for all nonviolent prisoners.  They could pick produce while earning their keep.  Chain gangs  are what's needed here.  Keep the highways clean of trash.  Pick lettuce, tomatoes, etc. 

Prison time should not be free time. Just because you did a crime doesn't mean its TV and weight lifting time.  Earn your keep. And should Convenient Niggah  Benny-Boy (a Filipinoish play on words  ;))  whine about how there are more of his "people", his "brothas", in the Pinstripe Crib, well, suffice to say that means we need to arrest more caucasionals and other peeps of color to make it all better for him.

And feed the lot of 'em salt peter.  That should keep them calm and easily controlled. 

All violent prisoners should be put into tiny cells and left there.  They can handle it.  Just look at domestic pets such as birds.  They live in cages just fine and they're a shitload smarter than any criminal human you can name.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: w8m8 on August 24, 2011, 05:16:14 PM
Let 'em pick produce in the fields.  In all seriousness this will ultimately reduce the illegal immigrant population, result in these "captive" employees paying their way.

Additionally I think this should be societal de rigueur for all nonviolent prisoners.  They could pick produce while earning their keep.  Chain gangs  are what's needed here.  Keep the highways clean of trash.  Pick lettuce, tomatoes, etc. 

Prison time should not be free time. Just because you did a crime doesn't mean its TV and weight lifting time.  Earn your keep. And should Convenient Niggah  Benny-Boy (a Filipinoish play on words  ;))  whine about how there are more of his "people", his "brothas", in the Pinstripe Crib, well, suffice to say that means we need to arrest more caucasionals and other peeps of color to make it all better for him.

And feed the lot of 'em salt peter.  That should keep them calm and easily controlled. 

All violent prisoners should be put into tiny cells and left there.  They can handle it.  Just look at domestic pets such as birds.  They live in cages just fine and they're a shitload smarter than any criminal human you can name.

nice post .. now try and convince a majority to agree
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 24, 2011, 08:47:12 PM
Dude... You're part of the tax system!

Your job is paid 100 percent by the tax payers!

Maybe if we got rid of  your job and made you get a job that produced a good, then maybe our GDP would be higher.

Who takes WHO'S money?

Oh that's right... you advocate no police...nuff said
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 24, 2011, 09:29:21 PM
Some people yes, but most are fucking lazy

The amount of people actually mooching off welfare is pretty minimal actually.  The Welfare Reform Act of 1996 pretty much made it very hard to get.  Even those who get it only get it for a very limited amount of time.

However, you can only collect unemployment if you were fired or laid off from a job that you worked.  People do stay on it longer due to the fact that they are looking for a job that pays close to what they made to continue to pay their bills and they are simply not finding those jobs.  I was in the same situation where I was laid off of Alltel and tried to find another telecommunications job which just wasn't there.  I ultimately had to take a part time job unloading trucks for a year until I built my fitness business up to where I could  pay my bills solely from it.  


Fact is that if there's no-one's hiring, then no-one is hiring.  Jobs are being shipped overseas including mine which is now done by someone in India.  That's not my fault and neither is it for other folks that are in the same situation.  Its unfair to punish people because a corporation decides to ship your job overseas to make more money.  




BTW, just to end this stupid argument, the monthly benefit of welfare is only about 150 dollars a month if you qualify for it.  Implanting a Norplant birth control device  into one person would run about 5k-10k dollars not even including check-ups and supplying equipment, transportation and supervisory personnel for people to clean up roads and picking up garbage would cost even more.  

Sounds good when you read it....implementing it however is where you fuck up.  Its cheaper the way it is now.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: tbombz on August 24, 2011, 09:35:01 PM

 
Put me in charge of food stamps. I’ll get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese, and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke, or get tattoos and piercings, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your “home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.
 
In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good.”
 
Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s rights, realize that all of the above are voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.
 
If we taxpayers are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.
 
And finally, while you are on Government subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will lose your voting privileges while you are receiving a Government welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job!”


i think all of that is great and i could support it except for  not giving the medicaid part and the part forcing people to work. everyone should get all necessary medical treatments regardless of tattoos and peircings, eating hbaits smoking habits what have you..  what we can do is prohibit all cosmetic treatments. that makes sense.  forcing people to work.. ok, if they dont have children to support. but you cant do that to a single parent with young children. not because the parent deserves their kids but because a kid needs its parent.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 24, 2011, 09:42:44 PM
Fine - take out the chain gang - but mandatory PT at 5:30 am muster is a must.   
 


You really are a complete sack of shit aren't you, especially for someone who has never done any PT before  ::)
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Yev33 on August 24, 2011, 10:53:07 PM
The opening post has a lot of simple minded ideas by a simple minded person who had never lived outside their own state and bases beliefs on experiences from their own bubble and what they see on TV.
Like a true sheep lower middle class republican, the individual does not see that the problems are caused by corporations and government policies that cater to them. The idiot does not  realize that he is much closer to the unemployed "leeches" than the government and corporate elites that lead him by the nose and motivate him to write articles that only support their agenda.

How about this instead. For every job a company outsources, they should pay the individual the unemployement benefits as well as pay for that person's education necessary to get re-trained in a new field which will bring him the same or slightly better income than the position he was laid off from.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: calfzilla on August 25, 2011, 07:14:05 AM
At one time I would have agreed with this but now I see it as classist, violates civil rights, without compassion, and just plain dangerous. Oh how opinions change as we get older and better educated.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: tu_holmes on August 25, 2011, 08:51:28 AM
Oh that's right... you advocate no police...nuff said
Ah... Ah...

Don't go lying (Typical cop).

I advocate police protecting and serving the public and not doing bullshit things like giving citations just to fill a localities coffers.

I advocate Police being held to a higher standard and actually "helping" the public.

I am anti-police because MOST police do not do anything but write tickets and cost the tax payers money.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Reeves on August 25, 2011, 09:28:42 AM
At one time I would have agreed with this but now I see it as classist, violates civil rights, without compassion, and just plain dangerous. Oh how opinions change as we get older and better educated.

Hmmmm...  No one has a right to what another person earns.  The redistribution of earnings (not "wealth") is criminal.  The liberal zeitgeist of civil rights where none exist is patently wrong.

No one owes you a living.  No one owes you happiness.   You are free to pursue those things.  Work for a living and you will find as much happiness (and self pride!) as the next person.  Some people will look for hatred everywhere but within themselves.  It's the truth that liberals/communists desire "equality", but only with those they perceive as being "better" than them.  For the greater part, you could substitute "better" with "richer".  But they don't want anyone to have to work for this "equality".  They feeeeeeeeeeeel that would be wrong.  It would be unfair, ergo they just decide that the people that "have", should have it taken from them and given to those that have not.

Robin Hood this ain't.  Neither is this Swift's "A Modest Proposal".

What's next?  How about a variation on the theme of imminent domain?  For debate (I never "argue")  let's call it "imminent income".  Under the auspices of "fairness" the State will take more of what people earn so that they can redistribute those monies, those EARNINGS of those that work to those that are too lazy to work for it.  That's "fair"?  FTN.

Why not?  Imminent domain can be used to take private property for the "greater good" of the "people", even if a judge determines that said "greater good" is for a new shopping center because it will provide jobs to the "people".   Why then can they not take private and corporate income for the "greater good".   They all ready do.

It is called taxation.  And we don't need more of it.  What we do need is accountability from our elected officials and our fellow citizens. 

Or you can just give the State all of your hard earned money.  Remember, it's "for the children".   ::)

Only they're not your children.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 25, 2011, 10:53:29 AM
Ah... Ah...

Don't go lying (Typical cop).

I advocate police protecting and serving the public and not doing bullshit things like giving citations just to fill a localities coffers.

I advocate Police being held to a higher standard and actually "helping" the public.

I am anti-police because MOST police do not do anything but write tickets and cost the tax payers money.
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How do you propose to pay for said police? Remember, you don't want to use tax dollars. 
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: tu_holmes on August 25, 2011, 10:57:59 AM
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How do you propose to pay for said police? Remember, you don't want to use tax dollars. 

That's not what I said either... You are pulling shit out of your ass.

I have gone on record and will do so again right now in saying that the police departments across the country could easily be cut in 1/2 and the amount of "real criminals" caught and prosecuted will not be affected what so ever.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 25, 2011, 04:24:27 PM
That's not what I said either... You are pulling shit out of your ass.

I have gone on record and will do so again right now in saying that the police departments across the country could easily be cut in 1/2 and the amount of "real criminals" caught and prosecuted will not be affected what so ever.


"Dude... You're part of the tax system!

Your job is paid 100 percent by the tax payers!

Maybe if we got rid of  your job and made you get a job that produced a good, then maybe our GDP would be higher.

Who takes WHO'S money?"



Sounds like you aren't sure where you stand.... Your words above..not mine..
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: tu_holmes on August 26, 2011, 02:22:58 AM
"Dude... You're part of the tax system!

Your job is paid 100 percent by the tax payers!

Maybe if we got rid of  your job and made you get a job that produced a good, then maybe our GDP would be higher.

Who takes WHO'S money?"



Sounds like you aren't sure where you stand.... Your words above..not mine..

My statement is obviously valid.

Are you trying to say that you produce something?

Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 26, 2011, 05:45:00 AM
My statement is obviously valid.

Are you trying to say that you produce something?



Your statement is nonsense. What you said was if we get rid of policemen and give them jobs that produced a good, then maybe our GDP would be higher..

You sound like a 2nd grader saying "if we just gave everyone a  million dollars no one would be hungry"

You can't get rid of police, and you can't just "give everyone a job that produces a good"

 Your statement compared police officers who are paid through local taxes to welfare recipients. That is a ridiculous comparison.

Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Natural Man on August 26, 2011, 08:25:11 AM
People fail to contribute because they ve been badly raised, educated. If they re not educated enough to understand why they re here, what they should do, they need to be re-educated. If they dont want to be re educated, then they should go away with people like them , or die. 

Natural selection.

Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Hereford on August 26, 2011, 09:49:52 AM


Whoever wrote this is a complete nutcase.  Some of the ideals are ok but other items such as taking away people's voting rights, forced medical procedures, and etc is ridiculous and would actually cost more money than what's currently out there not to mention that Norplant is illegal to use in the U.S for very good reasons.  This should be done for people who are prisoners who have broken the law but being unemployed isn't a crime.    


 

 


Of course the Getbig resident negro is against this...  ::)
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Natural Man on August 26, 2011, 09:54:38 AM

Of course the Getbig resident homosexual and autistic negro is against this...  ::)
fixed.

Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: tu_holmes on August 26, 2011, 12:47:58 PM
Your statement is nonsense. What you said was if we get rid of policemen and give them jobs that produced a good, then maybe our GDP would be higher..

You sound like a 2nd grader saying "if we just gave everyone a  million dollars no one would be hungry"

You can't get rid of police, and you can't just "give everyone a job that produces a good"

 Your statement compared police officers who are paid through local taxes to welfare recipients. That is a ridiculous comparison.



Hardly...

Do you deny that the citizens pay your salaries?

If we spend too much money in all of these other government areas, then why do you think that your government area should be exempt to scrutiny.

As I've said probably 20 times before to you, I am against the police because they are a waste!

Too many cops do too little to warrant the amount of money we spend on them.

If you disagree... Well, I don't really give a fuck because it's the truth and you can see that waste every single day.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: calfzilla on August 26, 2011, 01:00:19 PM
Will somebody please thin of the children! 
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Hereford on August 26, 2011, 04:22:30 PM
Here in CA cops and prison guards get paid insanely well. If they got realistic compensation the justice system would be a whole lot better staffed.

And as Tu said, most cops are just revenue generators for the government. I have watched cops pass up vandalism and theft going on right in front of them to nail someone for a seatbelt ticket.
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 26, 2011, 10:08:19 PM
Here in CA cops and prison guards get paid insanely well. If they got realistic compensation the justice system would be a whole lot better staffed.

And as Tu said, most cops are just revenue generators for the government. I have watched cops pass up vandalism and theft going on right in front of them to nail someone for a seatbelt ticket.

 ::)  love to hear some details..
Title: Re: A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on September 05, 2011, 06:41:26 AM
These ideas will be very unsavory to many "bodybuilders." 

A Texan’s Answer to Welfare

Submitted by Trevor on June 11, 2011

Reportedly from the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco, Texas, Nov 18, 2010.
 



Put me in charge
 
Put me in charge of food stamps. I’ll get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese, and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke, or get tattoos and piercings, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your “home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.
 
In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good.”
 
Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s rights, realize that all of the above are voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.
 
If we taxpayers are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.
 
And finally, while you are on Government subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will lose your voting privileges while you are receiving a Government welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job!”