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Title: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 04, 2011, 03:32:24 PM
I learned a lot from this past weekend. Mainly that at the national level im too light to fight and too thin to win. It was a good learning experience and put everything into perspective for me. This show reminded me alot of my first show. Saturday prejudging was quick but the night show dragged on and literally went from 8:30 to 11:50. After i did my introductory pose and walked off stage i sat in the audience and watched the show till the dropped the curtains and closed everything down. I just sat there and thought about alot of stuff. I think i might take a year or 2 off to try to put on some size. I ran into Wes and talked to him backstage about getbig for a few mins and shot the shit with a few other guys. I saw Bboy compete at the evening show and they guy looked incredibly huge. It was a good experience. Here are a few pics from the show. No need to ask for placings. The facial expression pretty much tells all   ;D
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Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 04, 2011, 03:33:26 PM
more...
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 04, 2011, 03:35:07 PM
more..
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Swede! on September 04, 2011, 03:35:44 PM
I thought you were busy filming the new season of Dexter?
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 04, 2011, 03:38:59 PM
On a serious note, your tan was great, what did you use?
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 04, 2011, 03:41:26 PM
On a serious note, your tan was great, what did you use?
Jan tana.... ironically this is the first year my tan turned out great. I think i have figured out what works for me and i think ill be exfoliating more throughout the year. I exfoliated my skin for 6 weeks leading up to this show. I was actually very worried because they only applied 2 coats to me. I learned that my skin will only absorb so much jan tana till it just sticks on it wet and smears. I think the sprayed the ultra and the high def on me. They say to use the ultra prior to stage. Most sprayers use the high def and keep coating you. I would also recommend precoating yourself with the jan tana lotion as opposed to the foam. Take it from someone who has an IMPOSSIBLE time getting their color right.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 04, 2011, 03:43:56 PM
Thank you for your response
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: newmom on September 04, 2011, 04:04:10 PM
You look awesome and I agree with Okami, tan looks great...Enjoy post contest junk food
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Mr. Magoo on September 04, 2011, 04:09:06 PM
congratulations anyway man
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Sam on September 04, 2011, 04:19:17 PM
Congrats on a great physique bro. Remember that Bodybuilding is all about the journey, nothing is ever achieved overnight. If something is worth having, its worth all the effort. Peace and respect.  8)
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Xerxes on September 04, 2011, 04:21:35 PM
What did you weigh?
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: tbombz on September 04, 2011, 04:36:08 PM
i think you should go with your gut instinct and take a couple years to add size. doesnt necessarily mean you cant compete but just focus on getting thicker everywhere. you look good right now but you have a structure that can hold a ton more muscle.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Stavios on September 04, 2011, 04:41:13 PM
you look good Leafy Thug, take your time, add size, overload the gear all year round, eat but not to much

compete again in 2 years at 15 lbs heavier  8)
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Schmoe Buster on September 04, 2011, 04:43:11 PM
Well done Leaf, im sure you learned a lot from competing at this show and will help you improve even more
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 04, 2011, 07:30:39 PM
What did you weigh?
183
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Game Time on September 04, 2011, 07:38:38 PM
You look god dude, solid build.

Who cares about the placing, you're still young, lifes not a rush.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: che on September 04, 2011, 07:39:05 PM
183

Do you do any posing live (one on one) on webcam ?

                                                                                                                     PS: It's not for me it's for my wife.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: SF1900 on September 04, 2011, 07:41:38 PM
Look good. I think your best post is the side tricep.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Lift Studios on September 04, 2011, 08:03:03 PM
i remember photographing you when you competed years ago. You've come along way and didn't even know that was you till you posted. Keep up the good work dude.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 04, 2011, 08:10:43 PM
i remember photographing you when you competed years ago. You've come along way and didn't even know that was you till you posted. Keep up the good work dude.
I'm surprised you remember. That was back when i was a lightweight. I still have a long ways to go. Good seeing you this weekend Isaac.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: theheman on September 04, 2011, 08:11:34 PM
Great job Leafybug.  You front lat spread looks great.  You're an inspiration to all the Getbiggers here.  
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: OTHstrong on September 04, 2011, 08:14:30 PM
It is 100 times better to lack the size then the shape
only up hill from here, that's a quality 183
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The True Adonis on September 04, 2011, 08:16:51 PM
I am quite proud of you my friend.  It was not even that long ago when everyone did nothing but second guess your efforts.  I am glad you have kept with it and done so rather intelligently. 
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: DK II on September 04, 2011, 08:21:26 PM
Looks great, Leafy!

I'm sure you will do some damage when you come in heavier, great lines!
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 04, 2011, 08:25:39 PM
this is something you need to understand leaf,, first of i told you not to do it,, second off and this is important you need to stop the leon thing ,, not leon what the fuck is his name noel! noel you gotta stop this balonie with him ,,

third! this next one is very important,,you play around with cycles of 180-190level bodybuild,, your trenbolona ace 100 mg every second day and testosterona propioneta 100 mg every second day ,, or your enantato undr 1 gram with the othr balonie ...this is 180-190lb fellas cycles,, and its not a cycle as we all know it is one continous usage,,

you have to remember here ,, i am the real deal im not someone who just come here for gimick releif,, you can win the show the all show,, i dont hav etime to take you under my wing but! you have to go into the zones of the b boy if you want to have the same size propotion to height...

you cant play with those type of cycles and expect be more than 190lb on stage,, those cycles are = 190lb onstage sometime less...

the fellas you competed against all use insulina and many of them at very high dose,, and! this is big big and! those fellas are the main buyers of the hgh from the sources on the internet...they truely order 10 kits a buy,, they swim in gh ....the doses of their aas are also pretty big and corespond to the dose of gh ,, they do not play with 100 mg trenbolona ace every 4rth day,,

this is important for you to understand,,

now you will say you want to quit bodybuild ,, i already know the way you are....you going to become out of shape go take some picture in the gymnasium in a month of you puff puff 195.5 lb...in reality you wont quit nothing ,, you are a drug addict like any single one of those fellas,, the problem is! you try to pass with minimums in era that is no more frank zane era,, you have much better physiqe than the winner of the competition sean allen even allen himself will admit to that ...THE PROBLEM IS...you play around ,, you do use hormones but you play it safe...none of the bodybuilder who walked on stage there play it safe,, half of them ...actualy more than half are drug dealers...yes yes ,,, the other half sell peptides,, rest assure the leaf bug...they all on steroid boardings all day long ALL DAY LONG the ones who placed before you and after you ,, the only thing in their head is how they get more products and advance,,

this is my advice to you,,

start taking it serious in the drug department,, diet will nto do you anything ,, you are maxed for the diet balonies and time to tke the right drugs ,, the right doses of the right drugs ,, and the right timings,, no receptors balonie and no macaronie,,

the skin gets thicker with age....this is why fellas say bad receptors,, because their skin get thicker...they get older and ....7% doesnt look like 7% on 20 year old,,,you got here on this boarding fellas walking around 6% but you wil say they look 10% because of skin ! this is something age and lots of hgh will do with time.... by the time you get to thicker skin you want to be there in the pros since your age is = infant

you have to listen to me if you want career in bodybuilding,, that means you put noel aside,, and stop sucking the tits of restinpeace girl lori ,, whatever her name is riphisass girl? i cant remember her name,, you have to stop listening to balonies,, you have to count on YOURSELF and grow with the right drugs in the right doses,,

you will hve a pro card within 3 years if you do what i tell you ...if not you will forever remain at the 190lb zone competing as amatuer in shows,, nothing wrong with that ...but it wont get you money from bodybulding per say ...maybe fitnes modeling but not bodybuilding,,

good luck

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 04, 2011, 08:27:29 PM
you look good Leafy Thug, take your time, add size, overload the gear all year round, eat but not to much

compete again in 2 years at 15 lbs heavier  8)

no he shoudl comepte next year,, what is this 2 year off? does the carpenter take 2 years off?? what is this balonie about 2 year off? he sholud wait 1 single year and go next year competing at 197 highest in the light heavy and win a pro card,, 2 years you gotta be kidding me,, fella is 20 lb from pro card,, you dont wait 2 years,, fellas dont be lazy ,, dont sit on your ass,, take the drugs needed and train ,, the younger the better!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: apply85 on September 04, 2011, 08:30:10 PM
no more listening to ballonies, he's not gimicking around
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: che on September 04, 2011, 08:30:35 PM


the skin gets thicker with age....

gh15 approved

I thought the skin gets thinner with age ,or you are  just talking about steroid  users ?
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 04, 2011, 08:33:41 PM
the skin always get thicker with age,, the older you get the thicker it gets.. fella like groink practicaly walks around 8% 7-8% but if i didnt tell you that you woudl all say he was 10-12% why? his skin due to his age....due to hgh usage and insulina with some..,, in his case its his age,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: che on September 04, 2011, 08:37:33 PM
the skin always get thicker with age,, the older you get the thicker it gets.. fella like groink practicaly walks around 8% 7-8% but if i didnt tell you that you woudl all say he was 10-12% why? his skin due to his age....due to hgh usage and insulina with some..,, in his case its his age,,

gh15 approved

but http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/thin-skin/AN01688


''Aging. With increasing age, your skin becomes thinner and loses some of the protective fatty layer that helps cushion your blood vessels against injury.''
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 04, 2011, 08:38:13 PM
You look awesome and I agree with Okami, tan looks great...Enjoy post contest junk food

its nto his tann that look great,, IT IS HIS PHYSIQE! ,, it is his frame and structure,, you got here fella that in diff era would win the competition ,, fella that actualy work with minimal doses he can afford and require,, he really work with not much ,, his physiqe is probbaly top 5 on competition there ,, but his weight and size were not....this is a big problem ,, this fella has secodn tier pro writen all over him yet he cant place top due to him being 183....

what you see there is a fella that structurally really can be good pro and do very well that is fucked up by drug abusers who place better,, this is how sad bodybuild is my friend

he doesnt open his moouth ,, he try to keep politicaly correct which is balonie ,, but he knows how it is ,, he is already in the drugs quite deep but NOT DEEP ENOUGH

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 04, 2011, 08:40:39 PM
but http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/thin-skin/AN01688


''Aging. With increasing age, your skin becomes thinner and loses some of the protective fatty layer that helps cushion your blood vessels against injury.''


thicker,, thicker on any one,, thicker skin on any one,, but forget abotu anyone now,, we talk hormonized fellas bodybuilding! skin gets thicker ,, look at arvilla ...fella would be top competitor if he had thin skin and legs ,,reason fellas keep on dieting is due to thick skin ,, this is the problem they dont realize their skin is thick and diuretic is the only way to reduce it,,masterona trenbolona ace,, some aromatze blockers and diuretics,,

 

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Parker on September 04, 2011, 08:42:16 PM
Leafy you looked good, I can see you taking a class win some day...
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 04, 2011, 08:49:28 PM
Leafy you looked good, I can see you taking a class win some day...

not some day ,, within next 3 years he can win this all thing as in over all light heavy and over all ,, at 200lb this is 17 extra lbs,, he can become profesional top 2 level tier,, sean allen is level 3 tier,, he would win agsint sean allen at 200lb ,, you hear that right ,, those 17 lb of lean muscle tissue will make leaf bug a pro bodybuilder,, may be 203 ofcourse i cant tell you exact poundage ,, but you get what im saying top of the class in lght heavy that mean 197 to 205 he will take the class and the all show ,, never ever become suepr heavy and even heavy ....not good for you ,, the biggest of the light heavy will get you a pro card

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 04, 2011, 08:51:49 PM
he has better potetnail for pro card than b boy! ,, leaf bug is a leverl 2 tier profesional ,, he is a worse version of denise wolf,, wore as in he will never be as big....but he will be more conditoned,, he is a denise wolf type in frank zane body...this is 200lb for pro card,, sealed gh15 approved

he is the only one on this boarding that can become a level 2 tier pro from what i have seen until now,, level 2 tier mean you win smaller shows,, and qualify for o and place like troy ,, it is making money out of bodybuilding,, it is havign a contract and living of bodybuilding

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The True Adonis on September 04, 2011, 08:53:19 PM
no he shoudl comepte next year,, what is this 2 year off? does the carpenter take 2 years off?? what is this balonie about 2 year off? he sholud wait 1 single year and go next year competing at 197 highest in the light heavy and win a pro card,, 2 years you gotta be kidding me,, fella is 20 lb from pro card,, you dont wait 2 years,, fellas dont be lazy ,, dont sit on your ass,, take the drugs needed and train ,, the younger the better!

gh15 approved
As far as the two year off goes, he does have other goals and ambitions.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 04, 2011, 08:55:07 PM
he shoudl compete every single year once!,, he shoudl do the nationals or usa or north american every year until he win pro card,, this is pro card for sure,, this is nto maybe ,, he just need 20lb of lean muscle tissue and that means true lean tissue on him not 20 lb of fat water and muscle but same thing with extra 20lb of muscle tissue,, it is not easy but its def not hard ..he is a kid ,, this is pro material

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Natural Man on September 04, 2011, 08:55:18 PM
a legend in his own mind...
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: the_swami on September 04, 2011, 08:59:14 PM
Leafy has a great physique

if he wants to go to the enxt level ie be competitive @ teh national level in america, liek GH 15 said, leafy is doing to need to up the dosage and use different drugs

it all depends how far Leafy wants to take it
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The True Adonis on September 04, 2011, 09:28:05 PM
a legend in his own mind...
Thats a rather poor and incorrect assessment from a really miserable human being.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: 20inch calves on September 04, 2011, 09:47:54 PM
leafy you look great. i do agree with gh. you could turn pro and i believe if i were you i would do the north americans every year until i did. you are close though. at 198 with some added leg mass i think the show could be yours.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: terry_calico on September 04, 2011, 10:03:17 PM
Leafy bug is the best looking member of getbig both body wise and face wise.  Good job leafy.  But don't put on ANY more size, just focus on maintaining your current size and getting laid!
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 04, 2011, 11:55:57 PM
leafy you look great. i do agree with gh. you could turn pro and i believe if i were you i would do the north americans every year until i did. you are close though. at 198 with some added leg mass i think the show could be yours.

ofcourse it can ,, i can tell you right now few pros that are currently competing that leaf bug has better physiqe than RIGHT NOW AT 183LB,,

1. stan macowy tier 2/3 profesional

2. peter putnem tier 4 profesional

3. dan hill tier 3 profesional with potential for tier 2 in future

4. sean allen new pro tier 3

5. shari kamali tier 3


right now all those 5 i mentioned has physiqe that is not as good as leaf bug,, they are larger! but not better,, they are worse,, their physiqe is not as good as leaf

so....you do the math,, 20 more poundage and he not only better quality than them but also wipe floor with them on stage ,, now...to get to the upper level of profesional he will have to be 220-230 5;11 but...im not so sure he is tier 1 material ,, he is tier 2 fella,, but! it was good enough for troy alvez,, did good career wonderful career and in my opinion really has one of best bodybuilding physiqes around

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 04, 2011, 11:57:30 PM
Leafy bug is the best looking member of getbig both body wise and face wise.  Good job leafy.  But don't put on ANY more size, just focus on maintaining your current size and getting laid!

nah face not so good,, frame is execelent though,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: KevinP85 on September 05, 2011, 12:24:19 AM
If you're talking about Stan McQuay, no. Sorry, Stan is superior, structure, shape, everything, just shorter. Look at his NPC days, dude was looking his best, especially 02 on conditioning as a middle weight.

Leafy has a great physique though, props to him, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 05, 2011, 12:47:30 AM
If you're talking about Stan McQuay, no. Sorry, Stan is superior, structure, shape, everything, just shorter. Look at his NPC days, dude was looking his best, especially 02 on conditioning as a middle weight.

Leafy has a great physique though, props to him, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

thats becaus stan macowy was always under anything he could get,, notice he never grow...why? because from the npc days he is maxed lol,,there is no lie with bodybuilding ,, it gives you out exactly what you are lol stan doesnt grow because he cant...he is maxed this is what his frame let him have and he been doing much more than leaf bug much much longer too,, leaf has better physiqe

stan is too short for leaf ,, his strcuture is not as good,, moment leaf is 200lb he wipe floor with stan maybe even when he is 195...

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: 99 Bananas on September 05, 2011, 01:03:27 AM
hahaha

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rDNyQdDXib8/SdS7lwtF7oI/AAAAAAAAEo4/FPRQgGVVIYY/s400/StanMcQuay_11.jpg)
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Primemuscle on September 05, 2011, 01:11:14 AM
You look great in those photos. I haven't seen your competition but you look like a winner to me.

Don't make any decisions right now about your future, give yourself some time to process your disappointment. Whatever you end up deciding to do, stay healthy. This is the most important thing you can do.

Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Game Time on September 05, 2011, 01:16:01 AM
You look great in those photos. I haven't seen your competition but you look like a winner to me.

Don't make any decisions right now about your future, give yourself some time to process your disappointment. Whatever you end up deciding to do, stay healthy. This is the most important thing you can do.


Agreed, don't rush into anything. And NEVER approach this as a career/way to make a living. Treat it as a hobby.

You may have the build but many before you did as well and they didn't make it anywhere. Don't destroy your health to try and achieve this dream...
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Stark on September 05, 2011, 03:22:56 AM
leavy - you look a thousand times better than any of the current mass monsters, don't go for the massgame, 1000% pussy pulling pysique.

Good job
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Army of One on September 05, 2011, 03:30:07 AM
Impressive showing leafy, a few more wrinkles and Bay will move you up a tier
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Tito24 on September 05, 2011, 03:35:14 AM
thanks guys your replies are very motivating
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 05, 2011, 04:46:17 AM
thanks guys your replies are very motivating
This* I am planning on going into nursing school i think and will be taking additional college courses in the spring. Preferably a light load. Depending on how this offseason goes will depend if i enter again but if i did it would be to finally attempt to win the Arkansas for good and then move on to different shows.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Army of One on September 05, 2011, 04:49:26 AM
This* I am planning on going into nursing school i think and will be taking additional college courses in the spring. Preferably a light load. Depending on how this offseason goes will depend if i enter again but if i did it would be to finally attempt to win the Arkansas for good and then move on to different shows.

Question, do you find that your physique attacts plenty of females?
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: DK II on September 05, 2011, 04:54:30 AM
Question, do you find that your physique attacts plenty of females?

Who gives a fuck about females?


He's a bodybuilder, he goes on stage, he is far beyond that shit. Only gymrats think about impressing women, real bodybuilders build their bodies.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 05, 2011, 04:56:29 AM
Question, do you find that your physique attacts plenty of females?
I will say that all the things people say on getbig about men only being attracted to muscles are no more then jealous remarks. Naturally it will attract more people from both sexes but i feel that my quality of life has only improved since i went from being 145 to 200 and i have a much better sense of well being and confidence. All that stuff they say is nothing more then jealous fueled negativity.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Army of One on September 05, 2011, 05:01:47 AM
Who gives a fuck about females?


He's a bodybuilder, he goes on stage, he is far beyond that shit. Only gymrats think about impressing women, real bodybuilders build their bodies.

Time of the Month?
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: DK II on September 05, 2011, 05:02:37 AM
I will say that all the things people say on getbig about men only being attracted to muscles are no more then jealous remarks. Naturally it will attract more people from both sexes but i feel that my quality of life has only improved since i went from being 145 to 200 and i have a much better sense of well being and confidence. All that stuff they say is nothing more then jealous fueled negativity.

Spot on.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: WillGrant on September 05, 2011, 05:04:47 AM
What kind of stack did Ripitup Cockblocker have leaf on?
;D
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: DK II on September 05, 2011, 05:05:42 AM
Time of the Month?

Bodybuilding is serious business.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Swede! on September 05, 2011, 05:20:22 AM
I will say that all the things people say on getbig about men only being attracted to muscles are no more then jealous remarks. Naturally it will attract more people from both sexes but i feel that my quality of life has only improved since i went from being 145 to 200 and i have a much better sense of well being and confidence. All that stuff they say is nothing more then jealous fueled negativity.

That's not ButtSuck  ;D (or whatever the name was lol)
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: oldman on September 05, 2011, 11:23:38 AM
can you elaborate on your diet in general, and what you did the last four weeks to come in ripped...

you can pm if you like thanks
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 05, 2011, 11:30:38 AM
can you elaborate on your diet in general, and what you did the last four weeks to come in ripped...

you can pm if you like thanks
It was nothing special. I wouldn't want this diet personally if i had to pick from all the diets i've used in the past because it was more of a crash diet playing catch up from all the fat i gained after my post mono weight gain. When i got mono i tried to put back on the 20lbs i lost and it looked like crap and then i had to play catch up the whole prep. The diet was nothing special. It was about 300 calories less then it was last year so i was around 2400 calories. Last year i was 2700 and this year if everything had worked out perfectly i probably could have been heavier and leaner dieting on 3k but it is what it is and i don't want to make excuses for a lack luster performance. I wasn't as anal about the diet as i usually am so nothing was written down and im giving close estimates here. I was on about 150-175 grams of carbs the last 6 weeks and protein was around 275-325 at times. Fats were probably around 30 grams. I was eating close to 4lbs of meat a day. I interchanged tilapia, chicken, and beef and my carb sources were sweet potatos and rice. Very little suffering was done on this diet. In fact it was on of the easier diets and i didn't really start hurting until the last week. It is all the same bullshit. Honestly that could have been 70 carbs of fruit or whatever... sugar, etc. I have been known to use gatorade in a diet all the way up until the day of the show.

Just be consistent with everything you do and you will get in shape. There is no special diet. There is only consistency.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Primemuscle on September 05, 2011, 12:10:38 PM
I will say that all the things people say on getbig about men only being attracted to muscles are no more then jealous remarks. Naturally it will attract more people from both sexes but i feel that my quality of life has only improved since i went from being 145 to 200 and i have a much better sense of well being and confidence. All that stuff they say is nothing more then jealous fueled negativity.

Right on! It is good to know some people actually think for themselves these days. I my weight gains have been similar to yours. I like how I feel when I have a little weight on, although I never had thoughts of becoming a pro bodybuilder....it has always been just a healthy hobby for me.

Good luck with nursing school. I heard this is a good profession to get into these days. One thing is for sure, there will always be sick people who need nursing care. Have you considered being a physician's assistant?
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 05, 2011, 12:31:43 PM
Right on! It is good to know some people actually think for themselves these days. I my weight gains have been similar to yours. I like how I feel when I have a little weight on, although I never had thoughts of becoming a pro bodybuilder....it has always been just a healthy hobby for me.

Good luck with nursing school. I heard this is a good profession to get into these days. One thing is for sure, there will always be sick people who need nursing care. Have you considered being a physician's assistant?
That was pushed on me but i think CRNA is the path to go as it only requires a masters and the money is good.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: njflex on September 05, 2011, 12:36:59 PM
If you're talking about Stan McQuay, no. Sorry, Stan is superior, structure, shape, everything, just shorter. Look at his NPC days, dude was looking his best, especially 02 on conditioning as a middle weight.

Leafy has a great physique though, props to him, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
absolutley was skinned as middle,with sick legs,great chest,so/so arms ,hard back,delts and good width structure wise as well,not good comparison for leafy..
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Butterbean on September 05, 2011, 02:03:55 PM
Leafy you looked great.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: ManBearPig... on September 05, 2011, 02:56:43 PM
leafy could make a dollar here and there doing photoshoots for legit hetero magazines, such as mens health etc.  he could even be a "fashion victim" or "before" picture in gq or something.

no homo.

also, i wouldn't take any solicitations from getbig members (unless they pay handsomely, in advance, and no butt play is involved...ok butt play).
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 05, 2011, 03:05:02 PM
be very careful with the nursing balonie,, most local morons who end up sellign exatacys in clubs and end up washed up wanna be placing 16th in nationals end like ,, they always go to nursing school and it takes them about 9 years to complete it ,, be careful with that,, yes it give you eaiser approach to some products but be careful with that,, dont be just another wanna be ,, be smart,, be honest,, throw noel out,, and you will be fine,,

again listen to me and dotn fall between the chairs,, good luck

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 05, 2011, 03:14:56 PM
Gh15 can you Please elaborate on the nursing being balonie thing
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 05, 2011, 03:31:36 PM
most locals who never go anywhee in bodybuild end up being nurses,, it is the esiest approach to what they need ,, they get a lot from hospitals,, they do they do when you are working in hospital you get by ....especialy outside americana ,, but if you notice most nurses....that are bodybuild,,are usualy amateurs who also drug deal and in reality they never place in nationals,, i dont know why but they all take nursing ,, notice it next time you look around,,

nursing is good job though,, if you can be serious and honest....and be bodybuilder should be ok

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The True Adonis on September 05, 2011, 03:34:03 PM
most locals who never go anywhee in bodybuild end up being nurses,, it is the esiest approach to what they need ,, they get a lot from hospitals,, they do they do when you are working in hospital you get by ....especialy outside americana ,, but if you notice most nurses....that are bodybuild,,are usualy amateurs who also drug deal and in reality they never place in nationals,, i dont know why but they all take nursing ,, notice it next time you look around,,

nursing is good job though,, if you can be serious and honest....and be bodybuilder should be ok

gh15 approved
Thats not why he is doing it.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: apply85 on September 05, 2011, 03:34:08 PM
most locals who never go anywhee in bodybuild end up being nurses,, it is the esiest approach to what they need ,, they get a lot from hospitals,, they do they do when you are working in hospital you get by ....especialy outside americana ,, but if you notice most nurses....that are bodybuild,,are usualy amateurs who also drug deal and in reality they never place in nationals,, i dont know why but they all take nursing ,, notice it next time you look around,,

nursing is good job though,, if you can be serious and honest....and be bodybuilder should be ok

gh15 approved

There's nurses making 6 figures
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 05, 2011, 06:13:45 PM
Thats not why he is doing it.
Exactly. The end goal is CRNA school. I would never jeopardize a job for something that minuscule and petty. Medicine is in my blood and this is the quickest and easier route to a good career. I need a job where i can use my brain. Im tired of being a mindless data entry drone or a work horse lifting big heavy objects because "i have muscles". I need a job where they can say, "Ya know i really don't like this guy but we need him". I guess little Donald Brook finally broke me down Adam hahahaha. The goal is to have everything set by November to be ready to take prereqs for spring. I'll need about a year of math and sciences and i'll be working full time and training equally hard during this time.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: hazbin on September 05, 2011, 07:40:21 PM
he shoudl compete every single year once!,, he shoudl do the nationals or usa or north american every year until he win pro card,, this is pro card for sure,, this is nto maybe ,, he just need 20lb of lean muscle tissue and that means true lean tissue on him not 20 lb of fat water and muscle but same thing with extra 20lb of muscle tissue,, it is not easy but its def not hard ..he is a kid ,, this is pro material

gh15 approved

i agree. i only competed every 2 - 5 years and never got a good look from the judges.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The True Adonis on September 05, 2011, 08:30:38 PM
Exactly. The end goal is CRNA school. I would never jeopardize a job for something that minuscule and petty. Medicine is in my blood and this is the quickest and easier route to a good career. I need a job where i can use my brain. Im tired of being a mindless data entry drone or a work horse lifting big heavy objects because "i have muscles". I need a job where they can say, "Ya know i really don't like this guy but we need him". I guess little Donald Brook finally broke me down Adam hahahaha. The goal is to have everything set by November to be ready to take prereqs for spring. I'll need about a year of math and sciences and i'll be working full time and training equally hard during this time.
Sure beats working for Blanche Lincoln any day of the week.  LOL.  How is Donnie Brook doing, he seems happy in his pictures
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 05, 2011, 08:41:35 PM
Leafy, you are a legend!
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: BikiniSlut on September 05, 2011, 08:56:54 PM
You're fucking hot.  :P
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: BikiniSlut on September 05, 2011, 09:00:55 PM
Fuck GH15....SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Let him be a pretty boy instead of a mass monster. Yeah....he could listen to you and look like shit and for what? Pocket change?A plastic fucking trophy?

It's not worth it to go pro.

Leafy can make better money being a fitness model and leafy....why try mens physique. You have the fucking face for it and after all that's what they look at. A hot face and 6 pack. And you'd get modeling oppurtunites.

Dennis gives solid advice alot of the time but not this time.

Listen to Bikinislut.




Bikinslut approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Super Natural on September 06, 2011, 01:53:32 AM
Leafy looks like you're at the cross roads bud, but before you decide.. something worth considering:

Have you ever thought of doing the Classic bodybuilding class? ...not as faggy as mens Physique IMO.

I think you'd do well in it & wouldn't have to consider going too extreme on gear, so way heathier and cost effective than the alternative...

The IFBB has a Classic bodybuilding World Champs each year and 3 classes at the Arnold Amatuer Champs in the US not sure if there are other contests in the US...Here are a few from last years World Champs in Europe...

Whatever you decide all the best, you look awesome! (No Homo)
 
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 06, 2011, 02:14:33 AM
^^^^

now thats! bodybuilding! ,, this is what made me go in to bodybuilding,, this is bodybuild friends,, very very nice ,, very very good physiqes ,, very very usefull knowlegde of hormones and training to achieve something ,,those are fellas who siad NO TO INSULINA! and they deserve to be comended for that

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: _bruce_ on September 06, 2011, 04:02:36 AM
What kind of stack did Ripitup Cockblocker have leaf on?

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 06, 2011, 04:13:20 AM
Sure beats working for Blanche Lincoln any day of the week.  LOL.  How is Donnie Brook doing, he seems happy in his pictures
He is doing very well man and he is pretty happy. I think the income he has made and his lack of debt have added significantly to his happiness. He will unfortunately be out of Arkansas within the next year and be going to CRNA school which could lead to many meltdowns. Time will tell. It will suck to not have his advice and insight around,
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 06, 2011, 04:16:03 AM
Leafy looks like you're at the cross roads bud, but before you decide.. something worth considering:

Have you ever thought of doing the Classic bodybuilding class? ...not as faggy as mens Physique IMO.

I think you'd do well in it & wouldn't have to consider going too extreme on gear, so way heathier and cost effective than the alternative...

The IFBB has a Classic bodybuilding World Champs each year and 3 classes at the Arnold Amatuer Champs in the US not sure if there are other contests in the US...Here are a few from last years World Champs in Europe...

Whatever you decide all the best, you look awesome! (No Homo)
 
Those guys look awesome but the look i have inside in my head for my future doesn't fit that mold. Besides that would be competing once a year and if you won that show then what? Thats the only time i've seen classic physique in America.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Super Natural on September 06, 2011, 04:46:03 AM
Those guys look awesome but the look i have inside in my head for my future doesn't fit that mold. Besides that would be competing once a year and if you won that show then what? Thats the only time i've seen classic physique in America.

Fair enough, you got the tools for the job - do it proper! ;)
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: pellius on September 06, 2011, 05:26:21 AM
Fuck GH15....SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Let him be a pretty boy instead of a mass monster. Yeah....he could listen to you and look like shit and for what? Pocket change?A plastic fucking trophy?

It's not worth it to go pro.

Leafy can make better money being a fitness model and leafy....why try mens physique. You have the fucking face for it and after all that's what they look at. A hot face and 6 pack. And you'd get modeling oppurtunites.

Dennis gives solid advice alot of the time but not this time.

Listen to Bikinislut.




Bikinslut approved

I'd take the slut's advice here. Face it, pro bodybuilding even if you are successful is just not a healthy or fulfilling way to live. You don't even look good to the vast majority of the normal people out there. And you don't feel good. And you're just slowly killing yourself. If you're that much into your body do something with it that has a broad appeal. It will be easier to make money, you'll feel good about yourself and feel healthy -- the pros so far out weigh the cons.

I had a friend back in the late 1980s early 90s who use to train at the same gym and often worked out together. We were also just starting out in Aerospace and both worked for Hughes Aircraft under DOD contracts. Just doing our part to promote the vast military industrial complex. He was a juicer, huge, always having to eat and make sure he had access to food. Living the miserable life of a serious bodybuilder always trying to get your hook ups for gear, always gorging yourself with food. After only a couple of years out of college he was already getting sick of the grind. Fighting traffic on the 405, sitting in a cubicle all day, training after work, juicing and always having to make sure you are able to eat on the clock which is not easy when you have a regular job. One day he just called it quits, stopped with the hardcore bodybuilding but still kept fit. He would always get compliments from people about how much better he looked. He was a pussy magnet. Always the one the americana whores would go for when we'd be alley catting around. He decided to quit the job and go into modeling.

There are so many more opportunities in modeling than in bodybuilding. Exponentially more. There's always a certain look a person has that no else had. He had the very typical surfer/California boy look, which are a dime a dozen, but he still had a great run. Traveled the world and pocketed a lot of ching. His bodybuilding background made it easy for him to change his look for whatever they were looking for. If it was fitness model type he'd train for that. Skinny jeans twink look -- no problem. Just give him a month to either juice or drop the juice and he's there. Within a year he already got a cover shot for Muscle and Fitness.

Pro bodybuilding is tough gig. Very hard life for most. Rewards are relatively paltry. You can still train and be jacked like that successful Jew fitness model and you don't have to go on stage
and be at the mercy of a bunch of schmoes.

Like I said, in less than a year he was already on fitness mag covers. And, as you can see, he's a good looking guy and all, and has a good physique, but really nothing special. This look is a dime a dozen. You have a much more distinctive and unique look especially if you start messing with hair styles. You definitely have a much better physique. When he would stay with me and my roommates, old buds from the gym, we use to laugh and make fun at how puny his arms, delts and especially legs were. And like a true bodybuilder who never quites gets over it it would bother him. Not like it would bother, say, Groink, but you know what I mean. First thing I said when he showed me this cover was, "God, look how scrawny you arms are." LOL! Dude was pulling bank within a few years and we're still talking arm size. What a pathetic bunch we can be.

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQh_9T1OLDcWGDsnQVPL4CrTiGkue77_l5Q4nKMrNVEF0Gr2GuSLg)
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: OTHstrong on September 06, 2011, 06:31:48 AM
 :)Great post Pellius, as usual, of course.....however

When someone has a passion for something that is their passion and no one will understand what they feel about it but themselves, so all these great ideas for leafybug are not great to him. I say continue and try to get the pro card cause from day 1 he enjoyed bodybuilding, leafybug is unique bodybuilder, certainly not average and it may seem like a long road but putting on 15-20lb on him will be like an average bodybuilder gaining 30.

I am 29 and since high school days I have known at least 3 guys that have died on a bike, 1 more that is in a wheel chair and 1 more that lost his leg, yet when I try to explain this to some of my friends that ride, they shake their head in mockery like if I will never understand.

And For fuck sakes bikinislut name one bodybuilder on this planet, besides Vince Goodrum, that has ever competed for a fucking trophy
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: BikiniSlut on September 06, 2011, 07:14:50 AM
:)Great post Pellius, as usual, of course.....however

When someone has a passion for something that is their passion and no one will understand what they feel about it but themselves, so all these great ideas for leafybug are not great to him. I say continue and try to get the pro card cause from day 1 he enjoyed bodybuilding, leafybug is unique bodybuilder, certainly not average and it may seem like a long road but putting on 15-20lb on him will be like an average bodybuilder gaining 30.

I am 29 and since high school days I have known at least 3 guys that have died on a bike, 1 more that is in a wheel chair and 1 more that lost his leg, yet when I try to explain this to some of my friends that ride, they shake their head in mockery like if I will never understand.

And For fuck sakes bikinislut name one bodybuilder on this planet, besides Vince Goodrum, that has ever competed for a fucking trophy

All of them??? What the fuck else are any of them competing for? They get dick all else.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Meso_z on September 06, 2011, 07:47:19 AM
living the dream
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Stavios on September 06, 2011, 07:48:26 AM
living the dream
I don't live to dream but I dream to live with you

no homo  8)
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 06, 2011, 10:06:23 AM
i dont know ,, i think the leaf bug will be a pro bodybuilder,, i really do,, the frame the height the over all waist to delt ratio,, i really think he wil make decent pro with some more time in the drug department and ofcourse training,, doesnt matter nurse or whatever else,, every work is good work i respect every work ,, but! if you can make money out of bodybuuild 50 k a year contract....which he will have! then go for it ,, 50 k a year you can live off quite well,, unless you want to be very rich lol then its not the job for you ,, but 50k a year second tier pro ,, if you win some small shows and have guest posing and some balonie videos and seminars,, you can get 70k a year,, this is very nice income and you do what you love

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on September 06, 2011, 10:09:58 AM
be very careful with the nursing balonie,, most local morons who end up sellign exatacys in clubs and end up washed up wanna be placing 16th in nationals end like ,, they always go to nursing school and it takes them about 9 years to complete it ,, be careful with that,, yes it give you eaiser approach to some products but be careful with that,, dont be just another wanna be ,, be smart,, be honest,, throw noel out,, and you will be fine,,

again listen to me and dotn fall between the chairs,, good luck

gh15 approved

Lawd! there be more to life than drugs!
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: tbombz on September 06, 2011, 10:12:26 AM
real bodybuilders dont train for women or to look pretty, they do it all because they want to be a massive beastly mother fucker. even zanes bitch ass with all his talk about aesthetics would have gave his left nut to look like a dorian yates or ron coleman, even with the gut.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: OTHstrong on September 06, 2011, 10:41:45 AM
All of them??? What the fuck else are any of them competing for? They get dick all else.
Serious, are you really that stupid to believe that, competing is not a material thing for most, stupid people, jeez
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: BIG_STI on September 06, 2011, 10:44:46 AM
buck80 is a nattie stage weight  ;)
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: stuntmovie on September 06, 2011, 12:33:28 PM
Good input here from GH, One Time Hard, BOMZ, and Supernatural!

Always great to read intelligent input even if it's beyond my mental capacity of understanding.

But I gotta thank ya anyway

Supe, I've been involved in all aspects of the BB world almost forever .... but I am not familiar with "Classic Bodybuilding" competitions in the least  and that type of contest just might be what I suggested be initiated in an earlier post.

I'd appreciate it if you can send me any Classic Bodybullding info that you may have and in the meantime I'll start researching it on the net.

I assume that "Classic" does not necessarily mean 'natural'!!?

Thanks, Supe!
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: wes on September 06, 2011, 01:09:13 PM
Leafy has a great physique with definite pro potential written all over it.

It was great to meet him........real good dude !!


If I was him I would just keep slowly adding size/muscle ,but I would definately keep my face out there as far as competing goes just so the judges will see his progress which I know will be steady and awesome as well.

They will literally watch his physique metamorphosize as time goes by from his great current look to one of a definate pro.........as long as the judges keep their glasses on!

I`ll be back soon........computer hit by lightning,old man unharmed!!


Hey Lori,you`re the best.......you too Chimps!!!   ;)

Keep pumping Leafybro!!  :)
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 06, 2011, 03:32:20 PM
Leafy has a great physique with definite pro potential written all over it.

It was great to meet him........real good dude !!


If I was him I would just keep slowly adding size/muscle ,but I would definately keep my face out there as far as competing goes just so the judges will see his progress which I know will be steady and awesome as well.

They will literally watch his physique metamorphosize as time goes by from his great current look to one of a definate pro.........as long as the judges keep their glasses on!

I`ll be back soon........computer hit by lightning,old man unharmed!!


Hey Lori,you`re the best.......you too Chimps!!!   ;)

Keep pumping Leafybro!!  :)
It was good to meet you too wes. Hopefully i will see you again at another national show.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Viking11 on September 06, 2011, 03:56:49 PM
The skin does not get thicker with age, it gets thinner! I don't think that he has ever seen an old person, lol. To the OP you looked great, Another 20 lbs of pure muscle and you will rock at that level.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: pellius on September 06, 2011, 04:01:23 PM
The skin does not get thicker with age, it gets thinner! I don't think that he has ever seen an old person, lol. To the OP you looked great, Another 20 lbs of pure muscle and you will rock at that level.

That may be true but in reality the skin on your face gets thinner and more wrinkled but because of fat and water weight that most oldsters get it just looks like you have thick skin on your body.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: bigbobs on September 06, 2011, 04:33:11 PM
What's your height Leafy?

And good luck in whatever you choose to do.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 06, 2011, 07:15:17 PM
What's your height Leafy?

And good luck in whatever you choose to do.
5'11... Here is a pic for everyone who thinks im 5'2 to show im way too tall for the lhw class.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2011, 08:20:41 PM
5'11... Here is a pic for everyone who thinks im 5'2 to show im way too tall for the lhw class.
ROFLMAO OMMMMFFFG!!!!

The Light Heavies are now filled with Midgets.  AGAJGASDGJasflk;jfasf


I noticed that Dave Palumbo even said that you were "too tall" for this class but had the best structure by far.

What the shit is this coming to when the Light Heavies is nothing more than Oompa Loompa Land.  Have they all broken out of Willy Wonka`s Chocolate Factory and joined the NPC? 
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 06, 2011, 09:52:42 PM
I'd take the slut's advice here. Face it, pro bodybuilding even if you are successful is just not a healthy or fulfilling way to live. You don't even look good to the vast majority of the normal people out there. And you don't feel good. And you're just slowly killing yourself. If you're that much into your body do something with it that has a broad appeal. It will be easier to make money, you'll feel good about yourself and feel healthy -- the pros so far out weigh the cons.

I had a friend back in the late 1980s early 90s who use to train at the same gym and often worked out together. We were also just starting out in Aerospace and both worked for Hughes Aircraft under DOD contracts. Just doing our part to promote the vast military industrial complex. He was a juicer, huge, always having to eat and make sure he had access to food. Living the miserable life of a serious bodybuilder always trying to get your hook ups for gear, always gorging yourself with food. After only a couple of years out of college he was already getting sick of the grind. Fighting traffic on the 405, sitting in a cubicle all day, training after work, juicing and always having to make sure you are able to eat on the clock which is not easy when you have a regular job. One day he just called it quits, stopped with the hardcore bodybuilding but still kept fit. He would always get compliments from people about how much better he looked. He was a pussy magnet. Always the one the americana whores would go for when we'd be alley catting around. He decided to quit the job and go into modeling.

There are so many more opportunities in modeling than in bodybuilding. Exponentially more. There's always a certain look a person has that no else had. He had the very typical surfer/California boy look, which are a dime a dozen, but he still had a great run. Traveled the world and pocketed a lot of ching. His bodybuilding background made it easy for him to change his look for whatever they were looking for. If it was fitness model type he'd train for that. Skinny jeans twink look -- no problem. Just give him a month to either juice or drop the juice and he's there. Within a year he already got a cover shot for Muscle and Fitness.

Pro bodybuilding is tough gig. Very hard life for most. Rewards are relatively paltry. You can still train and be jacked like that successful Jew fitness model and you don't have to go on stage
and be at the mercy of a bunch of schmoes.

Like I said, in less than a year he was already on fitness mag covers. And, as you can see, he's a good looking guy and all, and has a good physique, but really nothing special. This look is a dime a dozen. You have a much more distinctive and unique look especially if you start messing with hair styles. You definitely have a much better physique. When he would stay with me and my roommates, old buds from the gym, we use to laugh and make fun at how puny his arms, delts and especially legs were. And like a true bodybuilder who never quites gets over it it would bother him. Not like it would bother, say, Groink, but you know what I mean. First thing I said when he showed me this cover was, "God, look how scrawny you arms are." LOL! Dude was pulling bank within a few years and we're still talking arm size. What a pathetic bunch we can be.

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQh_9T1OLDcWGDsnQVPL4CrTiGkue77_l5Q4nKMrNVEF0Gr2GuSLg)

hahahahaaa...that's twice now....are there things Pellius ?

I'm no more thin skinned than anyone else on this board....people.....or should i say a few people with a LOT of gimmicks....constantly talk some serious shit about me...not even just me, they drag my family into it.  So I respond in kind....Everybody here responds when directly attacked, and i get attacked more than most....but I'm "thin skinned" when i fire back ??  Nonsense.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Parker on September 06, 2011, 09:58:36 PM
ROFLMAO OMMMMFFFG!!!!

The Light Heavies are now filled with Midgets.  AGAJGASDGJasflk;jfasf


I noticed that Dave Palumbo even said that you were "too tall" for this class but had the best structure by far.

What the shit is this coming to when the Light Heavies is nothing more than Oompa Loompa Land.  Have they all broken out of Willy Wonka`s Chocolate Factory and joined the NPC? 
Flex had competed at the light heavies at the height of 5'10.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 06, 2011, 10:23:50 PM
Flex had competed at the light heavies at the height of 5'10.

Flex wheeler is 5'9" on a good day
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Master Blaster on September 06, 2011, 10:25:51 PM
Getting the dose just right....hitting the receptors when they are still a little fresh. A higher dose, but not too high. It's more magic then science at that point. I say up the dose a little...maybe see what happens. Then, if need be, up the dose again. Catch the updraft at just the right metabolic moment.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: OTHstrong on September 06, 2011, 11:06:45 PM
Flex wheeler is 5'9" on a good day
No way, I am 5'9 and Flex is taller, when I have stood beside him
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 06, 2011, 11:19:35 PM
No way, I am 5'9 and Flex is taller, when I have stood beside him

Funny....I stood next to him too and towered over him and i'm 5'11' (and a half ha ah ah)

not calling you a liar.....i see this all the time about people's heights where two guys say the exact opposite
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Super Natural on September 07, 2011, 01:34:53 AM
Good input here from GH, One Time Hard, BOMZ, and Supernatural!

Always great to read intelligent input even if it's beyond my mental capacity of understanding.

But I gotta thank ya anyway

Supe, I've been involved in all aspects of the BB world almost forever .... but I am not familiar with "Classic Bodybuilding" competitions in the least  and that type of contest just might be what I suggested be initiated in an earlier post.

I'd appreciate it if you can send me any Classic Bodybullding info that you may have and in the meantime I'll start researching it on the net.

I assume that "Classic" does not necessarily mean 'natural'!!?

Thanks, Supe!

Hey Stunt

Here are the basic rules and report for the World Champs in Estonia this year:
 
http://www.ifbb.com/pdf/2011_inspection_report_tallinn.pdf

Report & Pics from 2010 World Champs…

http://www.ifbb.com/page_report.php?id=80


Competitors are limited in the amount of muscle they can carry for their height.


The weight / height limits for Classic
Bodybuilding are as follows:

Height Bodyweight limit

Up to 168 cm Height – 100
Up to 171 cm (Height – 100) + 2
Up to 175 cm (Height – 100) + 4
Up to 180 cm (Height – 100) + 6
Up to 190 cm (Height – 100) + 8
Up to 198 cm (Height – 100) + 9
Over 198 cm (Height – 100) + 10

It’s supposedly a drug tested show but the guys are FAR from drug free. The Russians cleaned up in 2010 but I think later everyone of them where busted for drug violations.
In fact more competitors where disqualified at the 2010 IFBB Classic Worlds than at the 2010 IFBB Amateur Men’s World Champs!  

Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 07, 2011, 01:58:49 AM
(http://www.simplegiftsfarm.com/images/green-triangular-head-leafy-wings-praying-mantid-21298617.jpg)(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=393865.0;attach=426924;image)
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: dogbowl on September 07, 2011, 02:49:34 AM
Great, great physique.  Looks very big for 83kg.  I suppose that's because so little of that weight is around your midsection.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 07, 2011, 04:02:21 AM
(http://www.simplegiftsfarm.com/images/green-triangular-head-leafy-wings-praying-mantid-21298617.jpg)(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=393865.0;attach=426924;image)
I didn't choose this screen name for nothing sebastian :). Don't you have gay pictures to be posting somewhere? The Tarot card bidness is serious bidness. Here is one Isaac took thats pretty good. I realized 2 things when i was standing backstage lined up with those guys. One was if i kept doing this i might become good enough at it to place in the future. The 2nd was i was going to get last call out because i didn't fit the mold of a light heavyweight. In a line up of apples i was the only carrot and i knew since i was the odd ball of the group that meant i didn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of even getting looked at. To be honest i don't even think 20 lbs will do it. All i can do is wait and see what it looks like.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 07, 2011, 04:10:17 AM
I met a photographer named Tony Sbriglia who used to work for Muscle Mag and did a few shoots for MD and Flex. He sent me these high res images after the show. They are amazing but ill spare you and just post this one.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: OTHstrong on September 07, 2011, 04:10:42 AM
Funny....I stood next to him too and towered over him and i'm 5'11' (and a half ha ah ah)

not calling you a liar.....i see this all the time about people's heights where two guys say the exact opposite
Shit, maybe I am not 5'9 lol >:(
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: OTHstrong on September 07, 2011, 04:14:01 AM
I met a photographer named Tony Sbriglia who used to work for Muscle Mag and did a few shoots for MD and Flex. He sent me these high res images after the show. They are amazing but ill spare you and just post this one.
Wow those are some clear pics, even though your tall, i still have you beating more then half that line up
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: gh15 on September 07, 2011, 05:38:25 AM
I didn't choose this screen name for nothing sebastian :). Don't you have gay pictures to be posting somewhere? The Tarot card bidness is serious bidness. Here is one Isaac took thats pretty good. I realized 2 things when i was standing backstage lined up with those guys. One was if i kept doing this i might become good enough at it to place in the future. The 2nd was i was going to get last call out because i didn't fit the mold of a light heavyweight. In a line up of apples i was the only carrot and i knew since i was the odd ball of the group that meant i didn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of even getting looked at. To be honest i don't even think 20 lbs will do it. All i can do is wait and see what it looks like.

20 lb of lean tissue will,, at 200lb you wilol still haev small waist it will be same size as now maybe slightly bigger slightly ,, and your all other mesurments grow ,, you will just look like a ...pro lol only more wquality less gut ,, you will look like stan macowy only with your type of physiqe....you will have a denise wolfe thing going inside a frank zane type body and condition ...

think about you at 160lb....and now....this is the diff you will have when you are 200lb only bigger illusion due to much more lean muscle,, you are going places if you keep at it ,, but! you will have to be bigger in the pros 220-230lb zone

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: CalvinH on September 07, 2011, 05:41:11 AM
Shit, maybe I am not 5'9 lol >:(

 ;D
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: ripitupbaby on September 07, 2011, 08:41:56 AM
Congrats to you Leafy, I was very impressed!!  You looked fantastic and did a great job.   8)

Wes, great seeing you too!!  I have a pic of us that I can email to you.  :)
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: stuntmovie on September 07, 2011, 10:26:53 AM
Supe! Thanks for all that info. I'll check it out this afternoon as right now I am heading off to one of the casinos to place a complimentary $50 bet on one of the tables and then stand in line for a free Apple Pie and then enjoy a free buffet.

The casinos give us locals free stuff on a daily basis to get us inside the joint in order to make the visitors think that the casino business is doing well.

IT AIN't .... cept on weekends when the fools arrive.

Olympia weekend should be interesting.

Thanks again, Supe!
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2011, 10:45:34 AM
Congrats to you Leafy, I was very impressed!!  You looked fantastic and did a great job.   8)

Wes, great seeing you too!!  I have a pic of us that I can email to you.  :)

Three of my favorite people all in one place and yet I was sadly missing.  :-\  One day I will catch up with all of you.
Title: Re: Leafybug North Americans hindsight and thoughts
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2011, 10:47:23 AM
Supe! Thanks for all that info. I'll check it out this afternoon as right now I am heading off to one of the casinos to place a complimentary $50 bet on one of the tables and then stand in line for a free Apple Pie and then enjoy a free buffet.

The casinos give us locals free stuff on a daily basis to get us inside the joint in order to make the visitors think that the casino business is doing well.

IT AIN't .... cept on weekends when the fools arrive.

Olympia weekend should be interesting.

Thanks again, Supe!
Stunt,
Why are there not more bodybuilders living in Vegas seeing as they could get all of their meals taken care of, high end ones at that, at the Casinos for virtually nothing as long as they play a little?