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While I agree that Wall Street deserves a lot blame, not all of it, these clowns down there are nothing but mostly hippies, socialists, communists, leftist dweebs, brooklyn hipsters, dopers, druggies, etc.
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While I agree that Wall Street deserves a lot blame, not all of it, these clowns down there are nothing but mostly hippies, socialists, communists, leftist dweebs, brooklyn hipsters, dopers, druggies, etc.
I'm just waiting until they start clowning and destroying stuff, so the cops can get medieval on them.
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Solyndra is no big deal?
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Hey blackass - is the guy wearing a "Civil War" hat to send a message?
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Hey blackass - is the guy wearing a "Civil War" hat to send a message?
you would have to ask him,shorty
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you would have to ask him,shorty
Maybe I should go down there with an "Impeach Obama the Wall Street Mascot" sign and bust balls with those hipsters.
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While I agree that Wall Street deserves a lot blame, not all of it, these clowns down there are nothing but mostly hippies, socialists, communists, leftist dweebs, brooklyn hipsters, dopers, druggies, etc.
my god, and these people consider themselves "well educated." What a fag in the peacoat with the scarf. Dude doesn't know WTF he is even saying.
There may be no hope for this country.
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i don't think you can pry yourself away from your computor long enough ;D
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Obama Machine Prepares To Hijack ‘Occupy Wall Street’
Backer of Wall Street puppet Obama – MoveOn.org – wants to “support the effort”
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Monday, October 3, 2011
The leftist juggernaut MoveOn.org, a Democratic Party front which vehemently backed Obama’s 2008 election campaign, is set to hijack the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ protests this week, which is pretty ironic given the fact that the Obama administration is a creature of Wall Street itself.
Paul-Obama
After largely staying out of the protests thus far, “MoveOn.org is expected to mobilize its extensive online regional networks to drum up support for the effort,” reports Crain’s New York Business.
The Obama front organization has supported the demonstrators by way of its website coverage, but this marks the first time that MoveOn will actively engage to organize ‘Occupy Wall Street’ events which its members will attend.
The hypocrisy of MoveOn.org seizing control of a protest movement dubbed ‘Occupy Wall Street’ is staggering. MoveOn.org “endorsed Barack Obama in the 2008 Democratic Party primaries, fundraised and organized for him, and has become perhaps the lead lobby organization for his policies,” reports SourceWatch.
The organization is also strongly supported by billionaire George Soros, with Soros having donated around $5 million dollars to the group in recent years.
So we have a Soros-backed organization which has aggressively lobbied for Obama, whose 2008 campaign was bankrolled by Wall Street (almost $2 million donated by Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase), whose 2012 run is being bankrolled by Wall Street, and whose cabinet is filled with Wall Street operatives, now announcing its involvement in protests against Wall Street.
Liberals really need to wake up and smell the coffee on this one.
People with diverse beliefs have thus far taken part in the demonstrations which have now spread across the country, from marxists to End the Fed populists. However, as we documented yesterday, the movement is quickly being consumed by the leftist machine that activated millions of Obamanoids to vote for the ultimate Wall Street puppet back in 2008.
A story which was linked prominently on the Drudge Report yesterday betrays the fact that many of the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ protesters are actually Obama supporters and advocates of a totalitarian form of statist tyranny – big government communists posing as anarchists and progressives.
This is the army that MoveOn.org will attempt to rouse to completely hijack the whole movement and silence the voices who are actively trying to steer the narrative of the protest towards concentrating on the genuine oligarchs of the US financial system.
Here at Infowars we are not simply disregarding the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ protest as a creation of the leftist machine and cynically abandoning the energy that thousands of young people are bringing to the streets.
We are pointing out that the usual suspects are hard at work to subvert and divert the impact of the protest by steering it away from the real cause of our economic fallout – the Federal Reserve – an institution which ‘Occupy Wall Street’ ideologues like Michael Moore have protected by their failure to acknowledge that it represents a far bigger threat than Wall Street.
In addition, Alex Jones has announced the campaign to “Occupy the Fed,” details to follow, in a bid to focus the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ movement on the real enemies of the American people, the Federal Reserve, and not let the protest be manipulated by Democratic Party front groups who are an integral part of the Wall Street establishment.
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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show.
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Occupy Wall Street = great use of freedom.
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Occupy Wall Street = great use of freedom.
True - those wierdos are free to make asses of themselves all they like.
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I think its a good thing. I hope it spreads to every major city in the USA.
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I think its a good thing. I hope it spreads to every major city in the USA.
What are these people trying to accomplish out of this? I still have not figured it out.
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I think its a good thing. I hope it spreads to every major city in the USA.
They need to march on Washington, not Wallstreet.
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What are these people trying to accomplish out of this? I still have not figured it out.
Get on over there an ask them.
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Get on over there an ask them.
All I have seen is rambling socialistic nonsense. These rabble have no message whatsoever I can discern.
General anger? Ok, I can grasp that. But occupy Wall Street? For what? A job? Shut the city down?
Do these panzies not understand that 40,000 taxpayers in NYC pay 50% of the receipets which pay for cops, teachers, services etc?
Who makes up the difference when the wall street people are shut down?
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All I have seen is rambling socialistic nonsense. These rabble have no message whatsoever I can discern.
General anger? Ok, I can grasp that. But occupy Wall Street? For what? A job? Shut the city down?
Do these panzies not understand that 40,000 taxpayers in NYC pay 50% of the receipets which pay for cops, teachers, services etc?
Who makes up the difference when the wall street people are shut down?
Get over there and ask them. Don't just make up your mind based on incomplete info.
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what has wall street done for the average joe? NOTHING, why let them keep squandering money while the regular people work for crumbs, screw these greedy bastards and annoy them as much as possible. They are pieces of trash, the people protesting as in Egypt and Libya are always called such names like you called them, see what Gaddafi called the rebels, your an idiot to not see this is a movement that is getting bigger by the day and they are not idiots and hippies.
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Yeah I had high hopes for this movement. It's turning into a fucking liberal left wing circle jerk. However, that' doesn't detract from the fact that Wallstreet isn't a small part of the problem........they are a HUGE part of the fucking problem. But the biggest problem is the Federal Reserve and their hijacking of the money supply. You end that and the rest will fall like a house of cards. But these left wing idiots don't understand basic economics nor their own history.
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Moral Hazard is the biggest problem for wall street, Federal Reserve, and the govt.
Wall Street - Don't worry - we can gamble as recklessly as we want with bs financial instruments - TAXPAYER WILL BAIL US OUT
Federal Reserve - Dont worry - we can always inflate our way out of problems when the last scam works - screw the savers!
Government - Don't worry - when that last bogus scam and program, flopped - no biggie the sucker taxpayer can always pay more and more and more.
Until we start holding people accountable for failure, by letting them fail, it will get worse.
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Moral Hazard is the biggest problem for wall street, Federal Reserve, and the govt.
Wall Street - Don't worry - we can gamble as recklessly as we want with bs financial instruments - TAXPAYER WILL BAIL US OUT
Federal Reserve - Dont worry - we can always inflate our way out of problems when the last scam works - screw the savers!
Government - Don't worry - when that last bogus scam and program, flopped - no biggie the sucker taxpayer can always pay more and more and more.
Until we start holding people accountable for failure, by letting them fail, it will get worse.
333866 You should look into the Ex-Im bank and OPIC. There is no such thing as a free market.
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Moral Hazard is the biggest problem for wall street, Federal Reserve, and the govt.
Wall Street - Don't worry - we can gamble as recklessly as we want with bs financial instruments - TAXPAYER WILL BAIL US OUT
Federal Reserve - Dont worry - we can always inflate our way out of problems when the last scam works - screw the savers!
Government - Don't worry - when that last bogus scam and program, flopped - no biggie the sucker taxpayer can always pay more and more and more.
Until we start holding people accountable for failure, by letting them fail, it will get worse.
Is that part or the sum of what they are protesting?
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Is that part or the sum of what they are protesting?
Not from what I have heard so far.
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I think its a good thing. I hope it spreads to every major city in the USA.
The only message that seems to be coming out of these "protests" is a call for more government intrusion into our lives, more government spending and more authoritarian measures. Fuck them and fuck anyone supporting them.
I don't give a fuck what they're protesting, communists are communists and deserve to be treated the same way as the Wall St. guys.
And protesting on Wall St. (I mean, some park in Manhattan) when the overwhelming majority of the market trading in this country takes place in Chicago = LOL.
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PICKET: Occupy Wall Street protesters post manifesto of 'demands'
The "Occupy Wall Street" protesters have listed 13 demands from their website.
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
Demand four: Free college education.
Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.
Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.
Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.
Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.
These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.
Quite a list of Marxist "demands", indeed. The real question here is if these demands are not met, then what?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/oct/3/picket-occupy-wall-street-protesters-post-manifest/
Too funny.
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While I agree that Wall Street deserves a lot blame, not all of it, these clowns down there are nothing but mostly hippies, socialists, communists, leftist dweebs, brooklyn hipsters, dopers, druggies, etc.
No different than the Tea Party...get over it.
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A "proposed list" taken from a forum?
I am sure we can find a more credible source here.
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While I agree that Wall Street deserves a lot blame, not all of it, these clowns down there are nothing but mostly hippies, socialists, communists, leftist dweebs, brooklyn hipsters, dopers, druggies, etc.
I can`t stand these disgusting hippies.
They are so fucking clueless and stupid all of them.
Start this video at 4:19 What in the blue fuck are these people there for? ??? ??? ???
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I still like it. I hope it spreads and spreads.
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While I agree that Wall Street deserves a lot blame, not all of it, these clowns down there are nothing but mostly hippies, socialists, communists, leftist dweebs, brooklyn hipsters, dopers, druggies, etc.
That host is a moron though. He says there is no place in the use of force. What a moron, he might as well join those dumbass protesters.
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I think its a good thing. I hope it spreads to every major city in the USA.
I hope not.
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The only message that seems to be coming out of these "protests" is a call for more government intrusion into our lives, more government spending and more authoritarian measures. Fuck them and fuck anyone supporting them.
I don't give a fuck what they're protesting, communists are communists and deserve to be treated the same way as the Wall St. guys.
And protesting on Wall St. (I mean, some park in Manhattan) when the overwhelming majority of the market trading in this country takes place in Chicago = LOL.
Looks like the US Marines are all commie traitors too. They just fight the nation's wars, they don't do the hard stuff of watching the news and posting on forums.
http://www.newser.com/story/130018/marines-head-to-wall-street-to-aid-protesters.html
(Newser) – NYPD cops better watch it when they get tough with Occupy Wall Street protesters from now on, because the Marines are coming—to help protect the demonstrators. "I'm heading up there tonight in my dress blues," announced a Marine veteran in a message reposted by another anti-war vet on his Facebook page. "So far, 15 of my fellow Marine buddies are meeting me there, also in uniform. I didn't fight for Wall Street. I fought for America." The vet adds that his "true hope is that we, as veterans, can act as a first line of defense between the police and protesters. If they want to mace them, they will have to get through the effing Marine Corps first. Let's see a cop mace a bunch of decorated war vets."
Marines and other vets have already been spotted in the growing movement. A photo posted on a protest tweet shows two Marines recently in an Occupy Wall Street demonstration. One holds a sign reading: "Second time I've fought for my country. First time I've known my enemy." The 1971 Army Infantry vet who reposted the Marine's message said he plans to be at the anti-corporate demonstration planned in Washington with "hundreds of my fellow veterans." Protests are planned throughout the week in New York and several other cities. (Click to see which celebrities are voicing their support.)
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what has wall street done for the average joe? NOTHING, why let them keep squandering money while the regular people work for crumbs, screw these greedy bastards and annoy them as much as possible. They are pieces of trash, the people protesting as in Egypt and Libya are always called such names like you called them, see what Gaddafi called the rebels, your an idiot to not see this is a movement that is getting bigger by the day and they are not idiots and hippies.
Do you have any idea where most people`s pensions and retirement funds come from? Have you never owned any stock? Do you not realize that buying stock drives technological advance and rewards investors? There is nothing more American than the United States Stock Exchange.
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PICKET: Occupy Wall Street protesters post manifesto of 'demands'
The "Occupy Wall Street" protesters have listed 13 demands from their website.
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
Demand four: Free college education.
Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.
Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.
Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.
Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.
These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.
Quite a list of Marxist "demands", indeed. The real question here is if these demands are not met, then what?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/oct/3/picket-occupy-wall-street-protesters-post-manifest/
Too funny.
Why don't you go down there and tell a few US Marines how they're traitors?
Pro tip - have EMTs standing by.
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I`m sick of these broke schmucks trying to ruin the Stock Market. The Stock Market, in my opinion, is the best way to accumulate wealth. They are allowed to buy Stock I guess they are just too stupid to invest anything at all or have zero to invest.
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Why don't you go down there and tell a few US Marines how they're traitors?
Pro tip - have EMTs standing by.
How cute, the commie dipshit thinks 15 unarmed marines should be intimidating. Better watch out, police. FIFTEEN, count 'em, FIFTEEN, unarmed marines are coming! If they're anything like you methinks the police will be fine. ::)
I'm surprised you took your mouth off 333's nuts long enough to string together a somewhat coherent response.
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These moron Protesters are costing NYC and the other cities millions of wasted dollars with their nonsense. Its really a shame.
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I don't care, this is A very good thing. We have a bought government. Anything that protests that is good.
Of course, the negative propaganda will flow now and the tools will comply.
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I don't care, this is A very good thing. We have a bought government. Anything that protests that is good.
Of course, the negative propaganda will flow now and the tools will comply.
So you support more spending, increased government intervention in our lives and more central planning, because that's pretty much the message coming out of this.
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So you support more spending, increased government intervention in our lives and more central planning, because that's pretty much the message coming out of this.
Nope, and that's not the message coming out of this.
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Nope, and that's not the message coming out of this.
There is no message. They are a waste of time.
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Nope, and that's not the message coming out of this.
Really? These demands they issued say otherwise:
PICKET: Occupy Wall Street protesters post manifesto of 'demands'
The "Occupy Wall Street" protesters have listed 13 demands from their website.
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
Demand four: Free college education.
Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.
Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.
Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.
Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.
These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.
Quite a list of Marxist "demands", indeed. The real question here is if these demands are not met, then what?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/oct/3/picket-occupy-wall-street-protesters-post-manifest/
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You're pretty fucking naive. If that doesn't convince you, go look at the signs they're waving around. Or do you think the red fist of solidarity against a black backdrop advocates for capitalism? ::)
They haven't the faintest fucking idea what they're protesting and are advocating for more of the same shit that destroyed this country. Yeah, let's get behind them. LET'S SPEND TRILLIONS MORE! ::)
These people don't represent shit beyond a small percentage of whacked out far-leftists like themselves.
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I still like it. I hope it spreads and spreads.
To what end?
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Really? These demands they issued say otherwise:
PICKET: Occupy Wall Street protesters post manifesto of 'demands'
The "Occupy Wall Street" protesters have listed 13 demands from their website.
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
Demand four: Free college education.
Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.
Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.
Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.
Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.
These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.
Quite a list of Marxist "demands", indeed. The real question here is if these demands are not met, then what?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/oct/3/picket-occupy-wall-street-protesters-post-manifest/
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You're pretty fucking naive. If that doesn't convince you, go look at the signs they're waving around. Or do you think the red fist of solidarity against a black backdrop advocates for capitalism? ::)
They haven't the faintest fucking idea what they're protesting and are advocating for more of the same shit that destroyed this country. Yeah, let's get behind them. LET'S SPEND TRILLIONS MORE! ::)
These people don't represent shit beyond a small percentage of whacked out far-leftists like themselves.
You should have probably clicked a bit further what you posted was on a forum:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/ (http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/)
Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement!
Posted 8 days ago by LloydJHart (Vineyard Haven, MA)
this kind of thing is going to get lots of negative press from all directions.
here's from their site:
http://occupywallst.org/ (http://occupywallst.org/)
Occupy Wall Street is leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%. We are using the revolutionary Arab Spring tactic to achieve our ends and encourage the use of nonviolence to maximize the safety of all participants.
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That host is a moron though. He says there is no place in the use of force. What a moron, he might as well join those dumbass protesters.
kokesh is a rabble rouser, a well known one.
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So basically i support this. I don't support the ideals of many of the protesters, but the core of the protest i do support.
Maybe, BF, you can start being a little less stupid and click a bit more before you tool up.
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I don't care, this is A very good thing. We have a bought government. Anything that protests that is good.
Of course, the negative propaganda will flow now and the tools will comply.
These people are mostly socialists and dopers They don't want to reform anything, they want to crash the system.
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These people are mostly socialists and dopers They don't want to reform anything, they want to crash the system.
I could care less. and i wouldn't trust your assessment of them. No offense.
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You should have probably clicked a bit further what you posted was on a forum:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/ (http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/)
Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement!
Posted 8 days ago by LloydJHart (Vineyard Haven, MA)
this kind of thing is going to get lots of negative press from all directions.
here's from their site:
http://occupywallst.org/ (http://occupywallst.org/)
Occupy Wall Street is leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%. We are using the revolutionary Arab Spring tactic to achieve our ends and encourage the use of nonviolence to maximize the safety of all participants.
They don't represent the 99%, though. Not even close to it. This country isn't 99% Marxist. ::)
Why are people incapable of realizing that this country is BROKE? Like all good leftist totalitarians, these morons want to spend trillions more and increase central planning by the government. Fuck them.
So basically i support this. I don't support the ideals of many of the protesters, but the core of the protest i do support.
Maybe, BF, you can start being a little less naive and click a bit more before you tool up.
I couldn't care less about their demands. I've seen the posters and watched the interviews with the protesters. None of them are advocating capitalism and smaller government. Every one of them is screeching for more spending, bigger government, more intrusion into our lives and so on. Now with it being co-opted by union trash and MoveOn.org, that message certainly won't change.
They don't represent 99% of anything. I have as much contempt for them as I do the banksters.
I have yet to see a single poster advocating for less spending, government or regulations. And their "demands" only confirmed what anyone with half a brain knew. They are Marxist trash and should be treated as such.
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No, all you have watched are things that support your ideals. That's what tools do.
Its ok. Its who you are.
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I could care less. and i wouldn't trust your assessment of them. No offense.
‘This is Revolution Not Reform’ Occupy Wall Street Organizer to ‘Excited’ Al Sharpton
NEN ^
Posted on October 3, 2011 8:46:16 PM EDT
‘This is Revolution Not Reform’ Occupy Wall Street Organizer to ‘Excited’ Al Sharpton: We Are Anarchists and Revolutionaries, ‘This Is The Beginning Of A Revolution In This Country’
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/this-is-revolution-not-reform-occupy-wall-street-organizer-to-excited-al-sharpton-we-are-anarchists-and-revolutionaries-this-is-the-beginning-of-a-revolution-in-this-country
This is why I want nothing TP do w this.
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No, all you have watched are things that support your ideals. That's what tools do.
Its ok. Its who you are.
So you know what I've watched? Fuck you.
You're the one who seems to be living in denial.
It's funny, though. You had us going for a while with your crying about government spending and such. You're just another big government, big spending, "let's bankrupt the country to push our social agenda", leftist.
Communists do not represent 99% of anything in this country.
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So you know what I've watched? Fuck you.
You're the one who seems to be living in denial.
Like i said, you are a tool. Evidence apparent in the article you posted. You simply made up your mind that these were liberals of hippies or people who wanted hand outs and searched for anything that supported your assumption.
You are what you are. Nothing to be ashamed of.
http://occupywallst.org/ (http://occupywallst.org/)
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‘This is Revolution Not Reform’ Occupy Wall Street Organizer to ‘Excited’ Al Sharpton
NEN ^
Posted on October 3, 2011 8:46:16 PM EDT
‘This is Revolution Not Reform’ Occupy Wall Street Organizer to ‘Excited’ Al Sharpton: We Are Anarchists and Revolutionaries, ‘This Is The Beginning Of A Revolution In This Country’
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/this-is-revolution-not-reform-occupy-wall-street-organizer-to-excited-al-sharpton-we-are-anarchists-and-revolutionaries-this-is-the-beginning-of-a-revolution-in-this-country
This is why I want nothing TP do w this.
We are being government by a bought government. Nothing will change for the better until everyone in this country wakes up to that fact.
If it takes a bunch of what you label as lefties to wake people up to it, so be it.
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Like i said, you are a tool. Evidence apparent in the article you posted. You simply made up your mind that these were liberals of hippies or people who wanted hand outs and searched for anything that supported your assumption.
You are what you are. Nothing to be ashamed of.
http://occupywallst.org/ (http://occupywallst.org/)
Hahaha, what a sad and pathetic logical leap you're trying to make here.
You haven't the faintest fucking idea who any of these protesters are yet you're now acting like you're some sort of expert on who is protesting and what their aims are. Give it a rest.
(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Wall-Street-Protest.jpg)
Yup. They're really advocating for the 99% here. ::)
We are being government by a bought government. Nothing will change for the better until everyone in this country wakes up to that fact.
If it takes a bunch of what you label as lefties to wake people up to it, so be it.
Except they aren't waking anyone up to that. They're crying for more spending, more government intrusion and more further erosion of our rights. They, and you, do not represent 99% of anything.
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So you know what I've watched? Fuck you.
You're the one who seems to be living in denial.
It's funny, though. You had us going for a while with your crying about government spending and such. You're just another big government, big spending, "let's bankrupt the country to push our social agenda", leftist.
Communists do not represent 99% of anything in this country.
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No BF I am simply not an idiot who blinds himself on one end of the spectrum. You are.
We have been getting fucked in ass by both sides for too long. I want it to stop. I want representative government back in this country.
I want smart, conservative government spending. I want big business out of government. I want jobs not out sourced. etc etc etc
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No BF I am simply not an idiot who blinds himself on one end of the spectrum. You are.
We have been getting fucked in ass by both sides for too long. I want it to stop. I want representative government back in this country.
I want smart, conservative government spending. I want big business out of government. I want jobs not out sourced. etc etc etc
You clearly don't as you support these protesters, who are advocating for all of that. They want MORE spending and MORE government.
Stop contradicting yourself. It's starting to appear that you're as much of a liar as 180.
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Hahaha, what a sad and pathetic logical leap you're trying to make here.
You haven't the faintest fucking idea who any of these protesters are yet you're now acting like you're some sort of expert on who is protesting and what their aims are. Give it a rest.
(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Wall-Street-Protest.jpg)
Yup. They're really advocating for the 99% here. ::)
Except they aren't waking anyone up to that. They're crying for more spending, more government intrusion and more further erosion of our rights. They, and you, do not represent 99% of anything.
so says the guy who posted an "proposed demands post from a forum" ::)
Its people like you on both sides of the spectrum that help our country, our middles class get fucked over and over.
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You clearly don't as you support these protesters, who are advocating for all of that. They want MORE spending and MORE government.
Stop contradicting yourself. It's starting to appear that you're as much of a liar as 180.
No they don't. Stop being a dumb ass.
Occupy Wall Street is leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%. We are using the revolutionary Arab Spring tactic to achieve our ends and encourage the use of nonviolence to maximize the safety of all participants.
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No they don't. Stop being a dumb ass.
Occupy Wall Street is leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%. We are using the revolutionary Arab Spring tactic to achieve our ends and encourage the use of nonviolence to maximize the safety of all participants.
They are not the 99%, though.
For example, one of the protesters was shrieking about a bank stealing his parent's foreclosed house. Well, lo and behold, after interviewing the dipshit, Politico CALLED his parents. It turns out the mom makes a $100k/year at her job and the father has 2, count them, 2 PhDs, making god knows how much. Not only that, but the kid was a law school student.
99% my ass. Nothing more than dead-beat, leftist scumbags like yourself. ::)
I've yet to see a single poster advocating for smaller government, less spending and more individual freedom. Seen plenty crying for more benefits, more spending, more government intrusion and outright socialism/communism, though. And I've been looking. I'm sorry that you can't accept the fact that these people don't represent anything. Fuck, it wasn't even an American that set-up these protests. It was a Canadian anarchist magazine. ::)
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We are being government by a bought government. Nothing will change for the better until everyone in this country wakes up to that fact.
If it takes a bunch of what you label as lefties to wake people up to it, so be it.
No, because what they are advocating is the opposite of freedom, free market capitalism, sound money, reality, and sense.
Everyone knows we have major problems, but these fools were nowhere the last two years protesting obamacare, geithner, summers, the bailouts, the wars, the spending, etc.
It's pure nonsense.
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No, because what they are advocating is the opposite of freedom, free market capitalism, sound money, reality, and sense.
Everyone knows we have major problems, but these fools were nowhere the last two years protesting obamacare, geithner, summers, the bailouts, the wars, the spending, etc.
It's pure nonsense.
If they represented the 99% they'd be protesting at the steps of Capitol Hill. They're as clueless as they come.
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They are not the 99%, though.
For example, one of the protesters was shrieking about a bank stealing his parents foreclosed house. Well, lo and behold, after interviewing the dipshit, Politico CALLED his parents. It turns out the mom makes a $100k/year at her job and the father has 2, count them, 2 PhDs, making god knows how much. Not only that, but the kid was a law school student.
99% my ass. Nothing more than dead-beat, leftist scumbags like yourself. ::)
Well i will say your self proclamation of being a immature douche holds true once again.
So because you found an example of some free loader that means that is what this whole thing is about?
Man you are one stupid dumb tool.
got news: some of these people are murders, some are on welfare, some are tree huggers, some are ex military, some are repubs.
Grow up BF.
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Well i will say your self proclamation of being a immature douche holds true once again.
So because you found an example of some free loader that means that is what this whole thing is about?
Man you are one stupid dumb tool.
got news: some of these people are murders, some are on welfare, some are tree huggers, some are ex military, some are repubs.
Grow up BF.
Fuck you. I've yet to see you counter any of my points.
Would you like me to keep posting pictures? I've got dozens. You have none. Ironic. ::)
(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Anti-Capitalism.jpg)
"Smash capitalism".
Haha, yeah, they really represent the 99%. You are incredibly, incredibly stupid. ::)
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The ignorance displayed in these interviews knows no bounds. The protesters just don’t get it. They are calling for the government to use force to impose their ideas. Yeah, they represent the 99%. ::)
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Well i will say your self proclamation of being a immature douche holds true once again.
So because you found an example of some free loader that means that is what this whole thing is about?
Man you are one stupid dumb tool.
got news: some of these people are murders, some are on welfare, some are tree huggers, some are ex military, some are repubs.
Grow up BF.
QFT again :)
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Are they against fascism?
(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/WSP-550x304.jpg)
Or for it?
(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/WSP2-550x331.jpg)
QFT again :)
You have yet to refute anything. All you've done is show how incredibly naive and uninformed you are.
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did i deny there were people you described?
NO.
Now get over it.
What they are doing is a good thing.
Do you deny that our government is bought?
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These dolts are mostly children of wealthy parents who wasted 4 years in college getting arts history degrees , have no skills or work ethic, tons of debt, and are pissed off at the state of the economy and the fact that they can't get work.
Well guess what the economy is hard for everyone now. The nanny state govt and communism is not the answer.
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did i deny there were people you described?
NO.
Now get over it.
What they are doing is a good thing.
Do you deny that our government is bought?
What do these protests have to do with our government? I see a bunch of losers protesting everywhere but at the gates of the White House and the Fed.
They support Obama and want more spending, more benefits and bigger government. These protests have nothing to do with "government being bought".
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What do these protests have to do with our government? I see a bunch of losers protesting everywhere but at the gates of the White House and the Fed.
They support Obama and want more spending, more benefits and bigger government. These protests have nothing to do with "government being bought".
The biggest gripe these tools have is that they are not on the main receiving end of the govt cheese.
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What do these protests have to do with our government? I see a bunch of losers protesting everywhere but at the gates of the White House and the Fed.
They support Obama and want more spending, more benefits and bigger government. These protests have nothing to do with "government being bought".
I don't disagree with you regarding many of these protesters.
but i still support the main ideal of the protest.
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The biggest gripe these tools have is that they are not on the main receiving end of the govt cheese.
Exactly. They're pissed that it wasn't THEIR interests that bought government.
I don't disagree with you regarding many of these protesters.
but i still support the main ideal of the protest.
I can't support anything spearheaded by communists and totalitarians. They are just as much at fault for this country's current situation as the banks are. They've foisted this benefit-leeching, parasitical entitlement culture on us and now they want to tack more onto it.
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I don't disagree with you regarding many of these protesters.
but i still support the main ideal of the protest.
Which is what?
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Occupy Wall Street' Organizer: Marketing Analyst Whose LinkedIn Lists Work For Investment Bankers
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein
Posted on October 3, 2011 10:52:41 PM EDT by governsleastgovernsbest
Trust him--he might be young, but he's a "professional sociologist." So did Harrison Schultz, an organizer of the "Occupy Wall Street" protests, describe himself to Al Sharpton on MSNBC this evening. And he wants Al and us to know that "a lot of the people that are here are in fact anarchists, are in fact revolutionaires. . . . We don't really want to fix [the problems]. It's revolution, not reform."
There are also some amusing factoids about Harrison. When he's not out fomenting revolution, Schultz is an . . . analyst for a marketing firm. Oh yeah, and in his oh-so-bourgeois LinkedIn profile, Harrison wants people to know he worked at Bank of America providing "assistance for several investment bankers." Oh, the horror!
View the video here.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...
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Exactly. They're pissed that it wasn't THEIR interests that bought government.
I can't support anything spearheaded by communists and totalitarians. They are just as much at fault for this country's current situation as the banks are. They've foisted this benefit-leeching, parasitical entitlement culture on us and now they want to tack more onto it.
I somewhat agree with this. However, when enough noise is made, more people will wake up to the issues on both sides.
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One of the few guys that gets it pretty good, compared to all the rest. At least he might help some of those other fools understand what the deal is. Good on him.
Protestor vents about the Federal Reserve, fractional banking system and FIAT currency.
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One of the few guys that gets it pretty good, compared to all the rest. At least he might help some of those other fools understand what the deal is. Good on him.
Protestor vents about the Federal Reserve, fractional banking system and FIAT currency.
He needs to go on home too.
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He needs to go on home too.
Get bent. He's head and shoulders above everyone there.
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There is no message. They are a waste of time.
This.
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Im up for anything that could eventually morph into something more meaningful.
Many of these young dummies dont know any better but they have the time on their hands and the energy to protest something I believe really needs to be addressed. They just need some guidance, which is what the other dude in the video I posted is trying to accomplish. I think that's an admirable thing and not a waste of time.
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Im up for anything that could eventually morph into something more meaningful.
Many of these young dummies dont know any better but they have the time on their hands and the energy to protest something I believe really needs to be addressed. They just need some guidance, which is what the other dude in the video I posted is trying to accomplish. I think that's an admirable thing and not a waste of time.
They`d be better off investing in the Stock Market and learning how to be fiscally Conservative with their own money.
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They`d be better off investing in the Stock Market and learning how to be fiscally Conservative with their own money.
Thats true to a point but the table keeps getting rigged in other ways and there has to be a stop to it.
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Thats true to a point but the table keeps getting rigged in other ways and there has to be a stop to it.
I also think they don`t have anyone of any gravitas whatsoever that are on their side. They look like a bunch of misled college students who should have not signed on the dotted line for their college loans. It was all fun and games I bet when they were spending all that "free" loan money like water. They act like they didn`t contribute to the problem. The same goes for all those morons who took high interest loans for the artificial housing prices a few years ago and now they wonder why they are being foreclosed on now.
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One of the few guys that gets it pretty good, compared to all the rest. At least he might help some of those other fools understand what the deal is. Good on him.
Protestor vents about the Federal Reserve, fractional banking system and FIAT currency.
Could tell the stupid libs around him were like "wait a minute, that actually makes a lot of sense!" Hopefully they will move their protest from wall street over to the New York Federal Reserve
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just keep working your minimum wage jobs and soon everything will be fine, let the rich lower taxes for themselves to create more lower wage jobs, it's so damn bright i need sunglasses, these young people see the bullshit.
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just keep working your minimum wage jobs and soon everything will be fine, let the rich lower taxes for themselves to create more lower wage jobs, it's so damn bright i need sunglasses, these young people see the bullshit.
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Could tell the stupid libs around him were like "wait a minute, that actually makes a lot of sense!" Hopefully they will move their protest from wall street over to the New York Federal Reserve
That kid need to go home and drown himself.
Anyways, I like the old FIATs from the 60s. This one is a 1968 Fiat Dino 2000. A truly beautiful Fiat.
(http://www.ritzsite.nl/Fiat_Dino/1968_Fiat_Dino_2000_spider_HQ.JPG)
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Why do these people not understand that investing in the Stock Market is the best way to ensure your wealth?
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Why do these people not understand that investing in the Stock Market is the best way to ensure your wealth?
They are not about creating or preserving wealth.
They are about stealing and confiscating wealth and redistributing it to their bizarre causes.
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They are not about creating or preserving wealth.
They are about stealing and confiscating wealth and redistributing it to their bizarre causes.
Its really pathetic and you can toss the Ron Poop Paulers in there as well. They want to dismantle the Stock Market and everything else. The Stock Market is the best thing in America if you know how to be fiscally Conservative and sit on your money and not live beyond your means. A concept, these people and Poop Paulers never will understand. That one Poop Pauler in the video has to be the most annoying Estrogen filled nancy I have seen in a long while.
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Its really pathetic and you can toss the Ron Poop Paulers in there as well. They want to dismantle the Stock Market and everything else. The Stock Market is the best thing in America if you know how to be fiscally Conservative and sit on your money and not live beyond your means. A concept, these people and Poop Paulers never will understand. That one Poop Pauler in the video has to be the most annoying Estrogen filled nancy I have seen in a long while.
I don't recall Ron Paul saying he wants to do away with the Stock Market.
When did this happen? I've heard him say things about the Federal Reserve of course, but I just don't recall him saying that the stock market should be done away with.
I would have thought with his philosophy that he would like the stock market as he is all about freedom to do what you want with your money right?
Did he lie and I missed it?
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I don't recall Ron Paul saying he wants to do away with the Stock Market.
When did this happen? I've heard him say things about the Federal Reserve of course, but I just don't recall him saying that the stock market should be done away with.
I would have thought with his philosophy that he would like the stock market as he is all about freedom to do what you want with your money right?
Did he lie and I missed it?
I think what he wants to implement (not like that would ever happen) would have a direct effect on weakening the Stock Market.
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I think what he wants to implement (not like that would ever happen) would have a direct effect on weakening the Stock Market.
Gotcha...You mean by eliminating the Federal Reserve?
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Occupy Wall Street Causing Problems On Main Street
www.huffingtonpost.com
Occupy Main Street: Are the Occupy Wall Street protestors causing headaches for Main Street too?
First Posted: 10/4/11 03:48 PM ET Updated: 10/4/11 05:05 PM ET
As the Occupy Wall Street protests lurch into their third week, the movement appears to be gaining steam. What began in New York's Zuccotti Park has spread to cities across the country, and has become emboldened by well-publicized arrests and celebrity supporters. But the group that says it's fighting against banks and corporations on behalf of the "99 percent" of America's "have-nots" may have caught Main Street in the crossfire -- with their continued presence causing big headaches for nearby small businesses.
"Usually, there are hundreds and hundreds of people in this area," said Stacey Tzortzatos, owner of Panini & Co. Breads, which sits adjacent to Zuccotti Park. "People do not want to have to pass through the crowd or walk through the park to come to my business -- so they go elsewhere."
At Zuccotti Park, just south of the World Trade Center site, hundreds have set up camp and show few signs of dispersing. The ground is littered with cardboard signs, awaiting new revolutionaries to pick them up and join the movement. There are information tables, newsies calling out to the crowd and a congregation of musicians beating bongo drums. Bystanders gather around the park's perimeter, attempting to navigate the crowded sidewalks and police barricades, but to no avail -- they are compelled to stop and read or just stare.
Zuccotti Park is more of a granite-clad pedestrian plaza than a park. On a normal weekday, pre-protest, the area would be crowded with "suits" eating their lunches or drinking their coffees, courtesy of the nearby food trucks, sandwich shops and pizzerias. Today, it's difficult to navigate the area moving north to south, as pedestrians and onlookers encounter human roadblocks once they hit the Liberty Street and Broadway intersection. Double-decker tour buses roll by the park to allow patrons to snap pictures of a "real New York City protest," while clogging crosswalks and slowing traffic. These days, the sidewalks opposite the park are empty except for camera crews setting up their shots, and the few people walking by have their backs to the businesses, their eyes fixed on the growing commotion across the street.
For Tzortzatos, the "occupation" has resulted not just in a loss in business. "I've had a lot of damage from the protesters," she said. "I've had to put a $200 lock on my bathroom because they come in here and try to bathe. The sink fell down to the ground, cracked open, pulled the plumbing out of the wall and caused a flood. It's a no-win situation. If I open the restroom for one, 30 people line up outside, disrupting my business."
A manager at the nearby Essex World Cafe -- who asked to remain anonymous -- shared similar complaints. Referring to three young men waiting at the end of the counter, he explained, "They want to use the toilet, the phones, we give them free water and free ice. They sit here and don't buy anything, but they recharge their phone batteries with our plugs, and I tell them, 'Hey, if you guys are going to come, I need to do some business here. We are suffering, too!' And then they start with their own words, going against you." The three young men eventually left the cafe, each carrying large containers the staff had filled with hot and cold water for them.
This manager also cited damages, including graffiti on his restroom walls. "For eight and a half years, there was nothing on those walls," he said. "Now it says 'Viva la Revolucion' everywhere. Yes, 'Viva la Revolucion,' but don't write it on my toilet. I let you use my facilities without being a customer and this is what I get?"
Still, he finds it hard to turn them away. "I cannot say anything against them because most of them have problems of their own," he said, noting he shares some similar concerns about the issues the protestors have put front and center.
Other nearby business owners seem, at best, generally indifferent to the demonstrations, with the loss in any business made up by the influx of journalists and other onlookers. "Business is the same," said Ricky Martinez, manning the counter at Steve's Pizza. "We haven't seen much increase other than the reporters and television people and a few more tourists."
Despite the anger that has risen from such acts of vandalism and carelessness, some local businesses are quietly rooting for the protestors -- or at least their cause.
"These young people don't want to be here," said one T-shirt vendor, stationed only feet away from the outskirts of the camps. "They don't want to sit through the rain and cold. They are just looking for results, for change. They just want what we all want -- money and security."
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Bunch of radical leftists.
I think I should start a counter protest mocking these pieces of trash.
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A manager at the nearby Essex World Cafe -- who asked to remain anonymous -- shared similar complaints. Referring to three young men waiting at the end of the counter, he explained, "They want to use the toilet, the phones, we give them free water and free ice. They sit here and don't buy anything, but they recharge their phone batteries with our plugs, and I tell them, 'Hey, if you guys are going to come, I need to do some business here. We are suffering, too!' And then they start with their own words, going against you." The three young men eventually left the cafe, each carrying large containers the staff had filled with hot and cold water for them.
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These hipsters, hippies, dopers, leeches, leftists, communists, vagabonds, and skells need a boot in the ass.
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Wall Street Protester: "You're A Bum Jew..Go Back To Israel"
The Blaze ^ | 10/4/2011 | Jonathon M. Seidl
We’ve been reporting on the Occupy Wall St. protesters for some time now, but we haven’t seen any signs of racism. Until now. But are they the ramblings of a disturbed man?
National Review correspondent Charles Cooke posted video Tuesday of a young man berating an older Jewish man, calling him a bum (it seems in response to being called the same term), mocking him by asking him if he speaks English, and telling him to “go back to Israel.”
Cooke describes the exchange:
Moments after I arrived, I saw a Jewish gentleman being berated when he criticized a protester. (Shortly after my video camera was switched off, he (inexplicably) shouted the N-word at the same man.)
(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...
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While I agree that Wall Street deserves a lot blame, not all of it, these clowns down there are nothing but mostly hippies, socialists, communists, leftist dweebs, brooklyn hipsters, dopers, druggies, etc.
While I agree that Wall Street deserves a lot blame, not all of it, these clowns down there are nothing but mostly hippies, socialists, communists, leftist dweebs, brooklyn hipsters, dopers, druggies, etc
True but right now these hippies, socialists, communists, leftist dweebs, brooklyn hipsters, dopers, druggies are at least doing something in regards to Wall STreet something our politicians have failed
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Wall Street Protester: "You're A Bum Jew..Go Back To Israel"
The Blaze ^ | 10/4/2011 | Jonathon M. Seidl
We’ve been reporting on the Occupy Wall St. protesters for some time now, but we haven’t seen any signs of racism. Until now. But are they the ramblings of a disturbed man?
National Review correspondent Charles Cooke posted video Tuesday of a young man berating an older Jewish man, calling him a bum (it seems in response to being called the same term), mocking him by asking him if he speaks English, and telling him to “go back to Israel.”
Cooke describes the exchange:
Moments after I arrived, I saw a Jewish gentleman being berated when he criticized a protester. (Shortly after my video camera was switched off, he (inexplicably) shouted the N-word at the same man.)
(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...
This whole Wall Street protest is a veiled attack at Jews which makes this whole thing appealing to the crazy conspiracy morons and the hippies and of course the Poop Paulers who are sometimes both hippie and conspiracy moron.
These people need to go home. All of them.
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This whole Wall Street protest is a veiled attack at Jews which makes this whole thing appealing to the crazy conspiracy morons and the hippies and of course the Poop Paulers who are sometimes both hippie and conspiracy moron.
These people need to go home. All of them.
are you saying jews are attracted to money ? LOL you mean bankers are jews??? ;D Seriously wall street is a bunch of inside trading assholes making money off outsiders who invest and have no idea what is going on. It would be like trying to bet on a game that is set to be rigged. People on the inside of wallstreet already know what is going to happen before any regular person does because of insider knowledge, it is disgusting. It is also illegal to do this, but the authorities look the other way, paid off my guess.
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Wall Street Protester: "You're A Bum Jew..Go Back To Israel"
The Blaze ^ | 10/4/2011 | Jonathon M. Seidl
We’ve been reporting on the Occupy Wall St. protesters for some time now, but we haven’t seen any signs of racism. Until now. But are they the ramblings of a disturbed man?
National Review correspondent Charles Cooke posted video Tuesday of a young man berating an older Jewish man, calling him a bum (it seems in response to being called the same term), mocking him by asking him if he speaks English, and telling him to “go back to Israel.”
Cooke describes the exchange:
Moments after I arrived, I saw a Jewish gentleman being berated when he criticized a protester. (Shortly after my video camera was switched off, he (inexplicably) shouted the N-word at the same man.)
(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...
Haha, did you watch the other youtube clips of that guy The Blaze has put up? He brags about finally getting off the drugs and getting arrested after stealing from Hollister the other day (even shows the shirt he stole), among other things.
just keep working your minimum wage jobs and soon everything will be fine, let the rich lower taxes for themselves to create more lower wage jobs, it's so damn bright i need sunglasses, these young people see the bullshit.
Nice Engrish. Methinks you're working a minimum wage job for a reason, gimmick.
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I think what he wants to implement (not like that would ever happen) would have a direct effect on weakening the Stock Market.
Wtf r u talking about?
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Wtf r u talking about?
Is this you?
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Good Grief… Occupy Wall Street Imbeciles Release 13 Demands Including “$20 Minimum Wage”
The Gateway Pundit ^ | 10/04/2011 | Jim Hoft
Posted on October 4, 2011 7:52:39 AM EDT by SeekAndFind
These imbeciles are just as dumb as we thought. Occupy Wall Street protesters posted a proposed list of demands on their website today.
Thankfully, most American fifth graders aren’t this stupid.
From the Occupy Wall Street website, via Picket and Loesch:
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending “Freetrade” by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
Demand four: Free college education.
Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.
Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.
Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.
Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.
These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.
Unreal. So who put this together for them anyway?… Van Jones?… Media Matters?
Lmfao! I should go down there and just start mocking these people.
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Good Grief… Occupy Wall Street Imbeciles Release 13 Demands Including “$20 Minimum Wage”
The Gateway Pundit ^ | 10/04/2011 | Jim Hoft
Posted on October 4, 2011 7:52:39 AM EDT by SeekAndFind
These imbeciles are just as dumb as we thought. Occupy Wall Street protesters posted a proposed list of demands on their website today.
Thankfully, most American fifth graders aren’t this stupid.
From the Occupy Wall Street website, via Picket and Loesch:
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending “Freetrade” by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
Demand four: Free college education.
Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.
Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.
Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.
Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.
These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.
Unreal. So who put this together for them anyway?… Van Jones?… Media Matters?
Lmfao! I should go down there and just start mocking these people.
What percentage of American citizens are traitors? I'm curious.
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You know real change is upon us because the celebrity left has come together. Susan Sarandon, Russell Simmons, Michael Moore, Roseanne Barr, Mark Ruffalo, Yoko Ono, and Alec Baldwin are speaking out. And when this many famous millionaires get preachy at the same time it can only mean one thing: they’ve had it up to here with the rich.
Just as when hundreds of protestors claim police brutality their next logical step is to demand a larger and more powerful state, of course.
If you’re having problems grasping the nuances of the Occupy Wall Street movement, you haven’t been paying attention to the present-day left. And good for you.
The self-demonizing millionaires and state-worshipping police haters barely scratch the surface of the ideological dyslexia at work. One Occupy Wall Street member’s proposed “list of demands” calls first for nativist “trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market,” and then for one-worldist “open borders migration,” so that “anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.” The document, like the motivation behind it, is a hodgepodge of paranoia, entitlement, self-pity, self-righteousness, class warfare, and economic illiteracy. If this spotty protest moment becomes broad-based and loud the thorough airing of modern-day leftism will prove to be a conservative’s election-year dream come true.
On Monday, with Occupy Wall Street spawning copycat demonstrations in Los Angeles, Denver, Chicago, Pittsburgh, and elsewhere, the Washington Post’s E.J. Dionne asked hopefully, “Can the left stage a Tea Party?” I don’t know if it can but if I were a GOP strategist I’d be praying that it does.
The true leftist agenda is so surreal Republicans couldn’t satirize it if they tried. (“Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.”) These leftists are so reckless that an extended, high profile “occupation” movement of national reach would bury liberalism months before November 2012. It would, in short, function for Democrats exactly as Democrats had hoped (in vain) that the Tea Party would function for Republicans in 2010. In unhinged “Occupiers,” conservatives would find an easy and clean target to run against and destroy. What’s more, this would force Barack Obama either to publicly walk back all the class-warfare rhetoric that the protesters have taken to heart or to sink as one of their number. He has long nurtured dual personae, vacillating in political style between inflammatory community-organizer and conciliatory high-office holder. A large national Occupier movement would require him to end that game once and for all.
Tea Partiers didn’t dash conservative hopes in 2010 because they were on the right side of history. While they demanded smaller government and less spending we watched Europe nearly collapse under the weight of regulation and entitlements. Their message made sense to Americans. But watching Russell Simmons—the anti-capitalist zillionaire—meditate with nose-pierced 20-somethings on the hope that more stimulus will fall like rain is unlikely to sway independent voters. In the age of Solyndra, the Occupiers’ call for “a fast track process” to bring “the alternative energy economy up to energy demand,” (Demand Five) isn’t going to resonate. Protestors’ appeal for the U.S. to stop supporting Israel is a non-starter in an America where Christian conservatives and Jewish liberals have been holding Obama’s feet to the fire on his hostility to the Jewish state.
With all these ill-suited messages and hypocritical messengers it’s easy to overlook the one timely half-truth among the Occupiers’ gripes: government and big business have grown entirely too close. I say half-truth because the protestors fail to understand that the road to change runs through Washington and not Wall Street. As long as government tries to pick private-sector winners, green or otherwise, corporatism endures. And as long as regulatory regimes prohibit large-scale investment by all but the most seasoned lobbyists, the market will remain less open than it should be. Those have never been easy points for conservatives to make, but with the incoherent Occupy Wall Street taking the opposite position the American public might first be more open to a little counterintuitive analysis.
Bingo.
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The Left’s Pathetic Tea Party
NRO ^ | 10/4/11 | RICH LOWRY
Posted on October 4, 2011 10:14:59 PM EDT by TruthHound
The Left’s Pathetic Tea Party The Occupy Wall Street movement is a juvenile rabble.
In the Occupy Wall Street movement, the Left thinks it might have found its own tea party.
MoveOn.org and some unions have embraced the protesters. The left-wing Campaign for America’s Future is featuring them at its conference devoted to reinvigorating progressivism. Liberal opinion-makers have celebrated them — Washington Post columnist E. J. Dionne welcomes their spirit, and New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof compares them, astonishingly enough, to the demonstrators at Egypt’s Tahrir Square.
This is a sign either of desperation to find anyone on the left still energized after three years of Hope and Change, or of a lack of standards, or both. The Left’s tea party is a juvenile rabble, a woolly-headed horde that has been laboring to come up with one concrete demand on the basis of its — in the words of one sympathetic writer — “horizontal, autonomous, leaderless, modified-consensus-based system with roots in anarchist thought.”
The Right’s tea party had its signature event at a rally at the Lincoln Memorial where everyone listened politely to patriotic exhortations and picked up their trash and went home. The Left’s tea party closed down a major thoroughfare in New York City — the Brooklyn Bridge — and saw its members arrested in the hundreds.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
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You know real change is upon us because the celebrity left has come together. Susan Sarandon, Russell Simmons, Michael Moore, Roseanne Barr, Mark Ruffalo, Yoko Ono, and Alec Baldwin are speaking out. And when this many famous millionaires get preachy at the same time it can only mean one thing: they’ve had it up to here with the rich.
Just as when hundreds of protestors claim police brutality their next logical step is to demand a larger and more powerful state, of course.
If you’re having problems grasping the nuances of the Occupy Wall Street movement, you haven’t been paying attention to the present-day left. And good for you.
The self-demonizing millionaires and state-worshipping police haters barely scratch the surface of the ideological dyslexia at work. One Occupy Wall Street member’s proposed “list of demands” calls first for nativist “trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market,” and then for one-worldist “open borders migration,” so that “anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.” The document, like the motivation behind it, is a hodgepodge of paranoia, entitlement, self-pity, self-righteousness, class warfare, and economic illiteracy. If this spotty protest moment becomes broad-based and loud the thorough airing of modern-day leftism will prove to be a conservative’s election-year dream come true.
On Monday, with Occupy Wall Street spawning copycat demonstrations in Los Angeles, Denver, Chicago, Pittsburgh, and elsewhere, the Washington Post’s E.J. Dionne asked hopefully, “Can the left stage a Tea Party?” I don’t know if it can but if I were a GOP strategist I’d be praying that it does.
The true leftist agenda is so surreal Republicans couldn’t satirize it if they tried. (“Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.”) These leftists are so reckless that an extended, high profile “occupation” movement of national reach would bury liberalism months before November 2012. It would, in short, function for Democrats exactly as Democrats had hoped (in vain) that the Tea Party would function for Republicans in 2010. In unhinged “Occupiers,” conservatives would find an easy and clean target to run against and destroy. What’s more, this would force Barack Obama either to publicly walk back all the class-warfare rhetoric that the protesters have taken to heart or to sink as one of their number. He has long nurtured dual personae, vacillating in political style between inflammatory community-organizer and conciliatory high-office holder. A large national Occupier movement would require him to end that game once and for all.
Tea Partiers didn’t dash conservative hopes in 2010 because they were on the right side of history. While they demanded smaller government and less spending we watched Europe nearly collapse under the weight of regulation and entitlements. Their message made sense to Americans. But watching Russell Simmons—the anti-capitalist zillionaire—meditate with nose-pierced 20-somethings on the hope that more stimulus will fall like rain is unlikely to sway independent voters. In the age of Solyndra, the Occupiers’ call for “a fast track process” to bring “the alternative energy economy up to energy demand,” (Demand Five) isn’t going to resonate. Protestors’ appeal for the U.S. to stop supporting Israel is a non-starter in an America where Christian conservatives and Jewish liberals have been holding Obama’s feet to the fire on his hostility to the Jewish state.
With all these ill-suited messages and hypocritical messengers it’s easy to overlook the one timely half-truth among the Occupiers’ gripes: government and big business have grown entirely too close. I say half-truth because the protestors fail to understand that the road to change runs through Washington and not Wall Street. As long as government tries to pick private-sector winners, green or otherwise, corporatism endures. And as long as regulatory regimes prohibit large-scale investment by all but the most seasoned lobbyists, the market will remain less open than it should be. Those have never been easy points for conservatives to make, but with the incoherent Occupy Wall Street taking the opposite position the American public might first be more open to a little counterintuitive analysis.
Bingo.
Great summary. Their demands couldn't be more laughable.
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numbers boy your copy and paste doesn't mean anything, the movement has begun against the greedy rich pigs.
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numbers boy your copy and paste doesn't mean anything, the movement has begun against the greedy rich pigs.
No one cares, Jtsalami.
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numbers boy your copy and paste doesn't mean anything, the movement has begun against the greedy rich pigs.
And then what? After you cry babies get done w your temper tantrum and break a few windows, torch a few cars, hang a few rich people, then what?
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And then what? After you cry babies get done w your temper tantrum and break a few windows, torch a few cars, hang a few rich people, then what?
They'll spend their trillions, get their bigger government and everything will be fixed. Everyone will be wealthy, the world will be at peace and we'll sit around the fire singing "Kumbaya".
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And after the evil rich are gone, business is decapitated, and we gave these smelly hippies access to all this cash to plunder, what comes next?
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And after the evil rich are gone, business is decapitated, and we gave these smelly hippies access to all this cash to plunder, what comes next?
Using history as a measuring stick, that's usually when the purges start.
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Using history as a measuring stick, that's usually when the purges start.
amen. this is why I will never support these crazie commies. they operate on emotion , not reality.
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And then what? After you cry babies get done w your temper tantrum and break a few windows, torch a few cars, hang a few rich people, then what?
no they just want fair wages, union's could do that job for them, make corporations not equal to a human being. Tax the rich more, rich get way too many loopholes and the working man doesn't use or get because of not enough money to use high price accountant. the poor to rich ratio is so fucked it is disgusting. you like the way the middle class is disappearing and willing to just sit back and let it happen and people get paid shit, health care costs go up etc etc? No thx, that is not American.
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no they just want fair wages, union's could do that job for them, make corporations not equal to a human being. Tax the rich more, rich get way too many loopholes and the working man doesn't use or get because of not enough money to use high price accountant. the poor to rich ratio is so fucked it is disgusting. you like the way the middle class is disappearing and willing to just sit back and let it happen and people get paid shit, health care costs go up etc etc? No thx, that is not American.
difference is why I believe that is occurring. Over taxing, over regulating, over inflating, unfair trade deals, bad energy policy, etc.
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http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/
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amen. this is why I will never support these crazie commies. they operate on emotion , not reality.
You're a welfare recipient calling other people commies.
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http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/
And how do these people think that blowing up wall street is going to solve their problems?
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And how do these people think that blowing up wall street is going to solve their problems?
They don't care. They just want more money spent on them. They can't grasp the fact that decades of largess has left this country completely bankrupt. Those college agrees certainly didn't entail any economics classes, that's for sure.
These people will be the first to roll over and die when the coming global financial collapse happens.
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And how do these people think that blowing up wall street is going to solve their problems?
Perhaps they would be better off if you would get a job and pay your own bills.
It's people like you bringing down the economy. You are part of the willfully unemployed. An absolute leech.
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Perhaps they would be better off if you would get a job and pay your own bills.
It's people like you bringing down the economy. You are part of the willfully unemployed. An absolute leech.
What's your excuse for posting all day? You don't own a business so that's not a valid lie. Are you trying to project your parasitical, benefit-leeching existence onto others?
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And how do these people think that blowing up wall street is going to solve their problems?
I don't think they want to blow up wall street
I think they want equal recognition for their economic troubles. These are not lazy's that prefer to stay home and drink beer while watching football, these are college grads, nurses, teachers, who have tried doing everything "right" and still end up failing. One of them on the site lost their father, one had a wife working 90 hours a week to pay for cancer treatment, another works 80 hours a week to pay for treatment, one cant afford to buy food for their child, etc.
I think this is the beginning of this trend 3333, to copy Gerry Cohen's words from that video thread I started last week or so, I think we are entering into an economic democracy.
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What's your excuse for posting all day? You don't own a business so that's not a valid lie. Are you trying to project your parasitical, benefit-leeching existence onto others?
I've done more for my country than my country could ever do for me. Faced death and hell day after day after day for America. So watch your fvcking mouth, scumbag.
I work AT LEAST 40 hours a week teaching English. Put in overtime the last two weeks.
I have VA healthcare benefits (5 years, for fighting a war) that I don't even use because I no longer live in the US.
Stupidest post I've ever seen you make and one of the stupidest on GB of all time.
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I don't think they want to blow up wall street
I think they want equal recognition for their economic troubles. These are not lazy's that prefer to stay home and drink beer while watching football, these are college grads, nurses, teachers, who have tried doing everything "right" and still end up failing. One of them on the site lost their father, one had a wife working 90 hours a week to pay for cancer treatment, another works 80 hours a week to pay for treatment, one cant afford to buy food for their child, etc.
I think this is the beginning of this trend 3333, to copy Gerry Cohen's words from that video thread I started last week or so, I think we are entering into an economic democracy.
I'm not disagreeing with you that most of society is really hurting. My thing w this is that many of these people Re advocating policies that make things worse not better.
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I've done more for my country than my country could ever do for me. Faced death and hell day after day after day for America. So watch your fvcking mouth, scumbag.
I work AT LEAST 40 hours a week teaching English. Put in overtime the last two weeks.
I have VA healthcare benefits (5 years, for fighting a war) that I don't even use because I no longer live in the US.
Stupidest post I've ever seen you make and one of the stupidest on GB of all time.
that is why I try to be respectful of you , even though you attack me endlessly. I respect your service.
I think the things these people think they want to achieve will make things drastically worse.
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I'm not disagreeing with you that most of society is really hurting. My thing w this is that many of these people Re advocating policies that make things worse not better.
would you be willing to agree that there is a large misconception in society about who the "poor" really are? And that there is a rational substantial percentage of the "poor" who actually need recognition in the political sphere? Yes there are some beer drinking partying lazy assholes but to say that these make up all of the "poor" is a gross overgeneralization that can lead to disastrous consequences?
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would you be willing to agree that there is a large misconception in society about who the "poor" really are? And that there is a rational substantial percentage of the "poor" who actually need recognition in the political sphere? Yes there are some beer drinking partying lazy assholes but to say that these make up all of the "poor" is a gross overgeneralization that can lead to disastrous consequences?
my biggest issue is the onerous cost structure of doing business the govt imposes via taxes, mandates, etc that really cripple the economy, business environment, etc.
It's killing everything from health care , energy, labor, etc.
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my biggest issue is the onerous cost structure of doing business the govt imposes via taxes, mandates, etc that really cripple the economy, business environment, etc.
It's killing everything from health care , energy, labor, etc.
I'm sorry 3333 but that doesn't answer the question
Don't be afraid, having compassion doesn't automatically make you a communist ;)
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I'm sorry 3333 but that doesn't answer the question
Don't be afraid, having compassion doesn't automatically make you a communist ;)
Compassion to me does not mean the same thing to you. I feel compassion for the guy getting hosed by the govt , mandates, taxes, inflation, regulation, etc.
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difference is why I believe that is occurring. Over taxing, over regulating, over inflating, unfair trade deals, bad energy policy, etc.
historically speaking when taxes are higher the country prospers, when taxes are at their lowest as of now, the country is in a severe depression, put two and two together. I agree with trade deals, sending jobs overseas not with the other stuff though.
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historically speaking when taxes are higher the country prospers, when taxes are at their lowest as of now, the country is in a severe depression, put two and two together. I agree with trade deals, sending jobs overseas not with the other stuff though.
The fact conjuring on the internet is always amusing.
This country is at its most prosperous when government spending stays within its historical norms (off the top of my head, roughly 18-20% of GDP). Taxes collected have never exceeded ~20% of GDP (more like 18-19%), regardless of the rates. This is very well documented.
President Downgrade has been spending at a rate equal to approximately 25% of GDP. THAT is what is unsustainable and no amount of taxing is going to change that. The govt. has never collected taxes = 25% of GDP and they certainly won't accomplish it now.
Take an economics class, gimmick. Making up facts on the internet will only get you so far.
I don't even know why I'm wasting my time with a fucking Jtsalami gimmick.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/04/occupy-wall-street-mass-arrests_n_995047.html
Lmfao! These dweebs think that they are going to convince people to side w them after this?
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Occupy this: A job
By Michael Graham | Wednesday, October 5, 2011 | http://www.bostonherald.com | Op-Ed
Attention, Boston: The Occupiers want YOU — to do their laundry.
The Occupation movement featured an online posting on Monday requesting “volunteers” to come to the New York City campsite, pick up the protesters’ laundry, “take it to their home to get it clean and bring it back.”
You know — just like Mom?
Has there ever been such a collection of mewling, puking overgrown babies as the clueless college brats of the “Occupation” — a particularly ironic phrase given how few of these oafs actually have one.
Ask them what they’re protesting and, according to The New York Times [NYT], one leader said, “It doesn’t matter . . . Just protest.”
Ask them why they’re protesting on the Greenway, and they have no idea. Occupy Boston’s only communication is a letter addressed to “The 1%, Wall St., All Cities, USA.”
“We want our country back,” it said.
Well, kids, here’s a message from working folks: “Go home to Mom and Dad’s basement. We want our Greenway back.”
When the Occupation movement began two weeks ago, the Herald reported that protesters “are angry that they went to college, incurred punishing debt and now cannot find jobs.” Uh . . . OK.
Now that you mention it, if I were a college grad without a job, I might show up in Boston’s financial district, too. But I’d show up with a resume, a suit and a fresh haircut, not a sign reading “End Capitalism NOW!”
Attacking Wall Street because you’re jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you’re hungry.
Unless, that is, you’re waiting for someone to give you a job. There’s talk from the Occupiers about “giving,” only they mean it in the sense of “taking.”
“Taxing the rich gives us more money to spend on products made here,” one Occupier told Fox News. “If the rich were willing to share, we could all live in prosperity,” another added.
Not “earn” but “give.” Not “work,” but “share.” And note the assumption that “taxing the rich” will result in giving money to college punks in Che Guevara T-shirts. Not deficit reduction or shoring up Social Security — but more goodies for the video game and home-made bong set.
The Occupiers’ theories about some cabal of top earners stealing our democracy sound, as columnist Jonah Goldberg writes, “like they were written in a tree house by politically precocious pre-teens.” But these punks of privilege understand it perfectly.
Why earn it when you can take it? If you’re Goldman Sachs, you can blow through billions and Washington will take other people’s money and make you whole.
If you’re Evergreen Solar or Solyndra and you’ve never turned a profit, some pol will take millions from successful energy companies and give it to you.
And if you’re unemployed and haven’t looked for a job in two years, why should you? President Barack Obama’s given you 99 weeks on the dole, and his “jobs” plan wants to extend that. All paid for by suckers foolish enough to show up on Wall Street with a job instead of a sleeping bag.
It’s the “everybody gets a cupcake” generation. Someone’s always given them a trophy, a good grade, clean laundry. Now they’re looking for someone to give them free money and an easy life.
What did you expect?
Article URL: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1371061
Spot on.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/04/occupy-wall-street-mass-arrests_n_995047.html
Lmfao! These dweebs think that they are going to convince people to side w them after this?
As I said, they're YouTube fodder!!!
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These OWS douche bags need to learn who the real enemy is.
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A letter to the New York City protestors
by David Freddoso Online Opinion Editor
Bunch of angry ideologues who don't share ordinary people's concerns.
(AP Photo/Stephanie Keith)Dear protesters in New York City,
You are not 99 percent of America. I don't mean that in the obvious numerical sense. If 99 percent of Americans had actually joined your march, Manhattan would have flipped over by now.
What I mean is that if 99 percent of Americans actually sympathized with your cause, the entire nation's economy would have collapsed long ago -- apparently to the delight of the organizers of this current protest.
What I mean to say is, you have a marketing problem.
When you decided to sit in traffic and block the Brooklyn Bridge a few days ago, with that blazing pink "SMASH PATRIARCHY-SMASH CAPITALISM" sign in hand, you probably didn't see the regular people you stranded in traffic.
You know, the ones with real-world concerns, business to attend to, families to go home to, et cetera. You may have read about such people during college in a book called "The Petit Bourgeoisie," or something like that. Many of us grew up calling them "the middle class."
Whatever you call them, they are hurting badly in this economy, probably more than you are. (I'm just judging by that sweet digital video camera I see you holding out in front of the cops, in hopes of provoking them into a viral-video police brutality incident.)
Those people you left stuck in traffic have a hard time paying their bills and rents and health insurance and mortgages. They worry about things like finding decent schools for their children to attend and making sure they don't get fired at work, and fixing leaking roofs and chimneys.
You know what they don't worry about, ever? Smashing patriarchy and capitalism.
So when your organizers go on television and say things like, "It's revolution, not reform!" and they're not joking, those words might give some of these narrow-minded people an unpleasant, October 1917 kind of feeling.
I know you'll find this hard to believe, but these regular people probably weren't very happy to see you on that bridge, carrying your preprinted black and yellow protest sign that hundreds of you got straight from the communist Workers' World Party (or one of its less frighteningly named affiliates). So incensed was one Ground Zero construction worker that he called you "g-ddamned hippies" in the New York Post.
And that underscores the problem with the 100-plus million people who work for a living in this country. They lack an enlightened perspective that would show them how your camping trip in lower Manhattan has already helped their lives.
See, regular people don't like banks any more than you do. But when they go to buy houses for their families to live in, they often find that they don't have half a million dollars stuffed in their mattresses. So they shortsightedly embrace financial imperialism, otherwise known as a mortgage.
They also worry about corporations, because they're big and powerful. But then, they'd love to own one of those sweet video cameras like yours, and they perceive that they can only buy one if an evil corporation can turn an obscene profit making and selling it.
So the point is, real-life things blind people to the great class struggle you're waging in lower Manhattan. You, and the rest of America's three-tenths of one percent.
You can take some consolation from that next year when you sacrifice your principles, abandon the Global People's Liberation Party (or whatever), and vote to re-elect President Obama.
David Freddoso is The Examiner's online opinion editor and the author of Gangster Government. He can be reached at dfreddoso@washingtonexaminer.com.
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http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-labor-unions
Now the public sector employee unions are getting in on this mess.
Time for a counter protest to laugh and mock these leftist communists.
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If these neo-hippies believe that we all have a right to clean air, they can start by WASHING THEIR STANK BEHINDS!!
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If these neo-hippies believe that we all have a right to clean air, they can start by WASHING THEIR STANK BEHINDS!!
you been out there doing some ass sniffing :D
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Leading House Democrat: ‘Occupy Wall Street’ protests, Van Jones part of US ‘Arab Spring’
The Daily Caller ^ | 10/05/2011 | Vince Coglianese
The “Occupy Wall Street” protests and former White House “green jobs czar” Van Jones are the beginning of an “American Fall,” according to Rep. John Larson, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus.
In Tuesday evening remarks before a group of visiting activists and journalists from Egypt and Tunisia, Larson said the United States has drawn inspiration from revolutions in those countries and, as a result, is experiencing its own “Arab Spring, if you will.”
In an exclusive interview with The Daily Caller following his speech, Larson said left-wing activists with “the right morals” are pushing America’s democracy to “evolve.”
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Like I said - communists are behind this mess.
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Hilarious, when I movement is starting to buiild, all the guys that complained before are now sitting on the sidelines mocking it. So some of these morons are misguided, why not use the momentum and redirect it to something more meaningful?
Kinda of like how the Tea Party got highjacked for the wrong reasons, this movement can be highjacked for the right reeasons.
If you're waiting for the perfect time for change, you'll be waiting a loooong time typing on getbig.
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Hilarious, when I movement is starting to buiild, all the guys that complained before are now sitting on the sidelines mocking it. So some of these morons are misguided, why not use the momentum and redirect it to something more meaningful?
Kinda of like how the Tea Party got highjacked for the wrong reasons, this movement can be highjacked for the right reeasons.
If you're waiting for the perfect time for change, you'll be waiting a loooong time typing on getbig.
These people represent everything I am against.
And that video you posted of that guy? Notice how what he was saying went right over the heads of all those people? Those people don't want to hear it. They want socialism and a nanny state. They want to crush capitalism, not foster it.
These people want massive govt.
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These people represent everything I am against.
And that video you posted of that guy? Notice how what he was saying went right over the heads of all those people? Those people don't want to hear it. They want socialism and a nanny state. They want to crush capitalism, not foster it.
These people want massive govt.
Actually I found more videos like the one I posted. They are there if you look for them. I trust the media to give the full story as much as I trust my worst enemy.
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Actually I found more videos like the one I posted. They are there if you look for them. I trust the media to give the full story as much as I trust my worst enemy.
Anything associated with public sector unions, van jones, Trumka, etc gets me extremely nervous.
I dont think these people are looking to reform Wall Street as much as blow it up.
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I am sure many of these people are lazy lefties. But some or many of them are people just in a fucked up situation and they see Wall Street getting bailed out, they see corruption at the highest levels, they see our true constitutional system fading away.
The problem with this "movement" is that it doesn't have clear demands. Which makes it pray to all sorts of negative press while attracting all kinds of socialistic types.
For me, If that what it takes for the American Public to wake up to the fact that Representative government no longer exists in the country and that we are instead a bought government of elected representatives accountable not to us.
So i support this, i hope it gets real bad, real riots, etc. I hope our public wakes up to things like rigged trade (2-4% tariffs on Chinese goods coming into the USA while they tariff 25% to our goods) I hope people wake up to the Banks bending our government over and doing its bidding virtually unrestricted with out accountability.
I really hope in the end they see Obama for he is, a puppet lame leader and that BUSH was no different in the end.
But its all probably just a pipe dream. :)
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Riots? Are you effing nuts?
Have you ever been to NYC?
No thanks. We need reform, reasonable and sensible rules of the road, not revolution and riots by leftist freaks.
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Riots? Are you effing nuts?
Have you ever been to NYC?
No thanks. We need reform, reasonable and sensible rules of the road, not revolution and riots by leftist freaks.
I don't think it will ever happen without riots.
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I don't think it will ever happen without riots.
and what comes after riots?
Tell me - after these communist pieces of garbage shut down the city - then what?
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and what comes after riots?
Tell me - after these communist pieces of garbage shut down the city - then what?
Most people are unaware. Riots will change that. It will spur a national debate and awareness of whats going on.
Riots will preempt American idol.
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Most people are unaware. Riots will change that. It will spur a national debate and awareness of whats going on.
Riots will preempt American idol.
Wrong - there will be a massive counter revolution against these communist thugs - and i for one will be part of that.
These dirtbags are communists and socialists - not free market capitalists looking for a better economy.
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Wrong - there will be a massive counter revolution against these communist thugs - and i for one will be part of that.
These dirtbags are communists and socialists - not free market capitalists looking for a better economy.
First off their message isn't clear. Which makes them easy targets for tools like yourself. You are a great example of that. (no offense) However, most people in this country aren't like you.
What ever form a public outcry takes is good. Because the blame game between conservatives and liberals that people like you sucker everyone into gets nothing done.
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First off their message isn't clear. Which makes them easy targets for tools like yourself. You are a great example of that. (no offense) However, most people in this country aren't like you.
What ever form a public outcry takes is good. Because the blame game between conservatives and liberals that people like you sucker everyone into gets nothing done.
I live here and most people are revulsed by these hippie commies. Ask GW.
They are a disgrace.
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I live here and most people are revulsed by these hippie commies. Ask GW.
They are a disgrace.
They aren't all hippie commies. Of course many people want them to be. So you'll all kinds of slanted articles saying they are. You'll also find ones saying they are not.
Even then. i could care less who they are.
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They aren't all hippie commies. Of course many people want them to be. So you'll all kinds of slanted articles saying they are. You'll also find ones saying they are not.
Even then. i could care less who they are.
Well you should care who is behind this.
Sorry - collapsing the economy is not something I am in favor of.
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Well you should care who is behind this.
Sorry - collapsing the economy is not something I am in favor of.
Collapsing economy? where do you get that idea?
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Collapsing economy? where do you get that idea?
The Demands these morons have put forth are an obscenity to reality and freedom.
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Occupy Wall Street Supporters Turn On Each Other on their Website
Pundit Press ^ | 10/5/11 | Aurelius
Putting the fact that the people calling for the occupation of Wall Street have a website, which means they can afford a computer and an internet connection, aside, it appears that this gang of nitwits is not too fond of how their "revolt" is being handled. The most evident example of this is on their imbecilic "demands" page, which allows comments.
Even though these people stress that their "front" is unified, it is clearly not. There is in-fighting and anger towards one another. Enjoy:
"A freakshow:"
...Plain "stupid:"
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These fools are a rag tag bunch of marxists, hippies, dopers, and drunks.
This is going to back fire MASSIVELY.
Occupy Wall Street? Ok - and?
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The Demands these morons have put forth are an obscenity to reality and freedom.
Are you talking about the "Demands" BF provided?
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Are you talking about the "Demands" BF provided?
Yes
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Did you take the time to click beyond the link, to the actual website where they were mis-titled from a forum?
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99% what? ‘Occupy Wall Street’ organizers look for minorities (but can't find them)
Yahoo ^ | 10/04/11 | By Matthew Boyle
99% what? ‘Occupy Wall Street’ organizers look for minorities
By Matthew Boyle
The Daily Caller – 22 hrs ago
**SNIP**
One minority activist has appeared to speak to the Wall Street protesters: socialist and Princeton professor Cornel West.
Malkin and Gainor also told TheDC that while news organizations have failed to report on these protesters’ lack of minority representation, tea party rallies attracted accusations of racism for what some reporters perceived was a similar lack of racial diversity.
“The liberal media will only engage in racial bean-counting of protest crowds when it serves their political ends: Namely, painting the Right as homogenous and non-inclusive,” Malkin said. “We heard endless derision about the tea party’s lack of skin-color diversity from Hollywood and the national press. But not a peep about the Abercrombie & Fitch-meets-Apple central casting mob swamping lower Manhattan.”
Gainor added that mainstream media representatives “only see what they want to see.” He said reporters scoured tea party rallies for evidence of racism, while failing to notice how “white” the left-wing crowds are.
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LMFAO! ! ! !
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Did you take the time to click beyond the link, to the actual website where they were mis-titled from a forum?
Guess not lol
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Don`t worry, these morons will be gone when the weather starts to get colder. Hopefully Bindare Dundat and the rest of the Ron Poop Paul asshats will remain out there. These Wall Street protests are the Pooptards wet dream.
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Labor Unions Join Wall Street "Occupiers" for Mass Rally
Wall Street Protester Seeks Missed ConnectionAuto Start: On | OffShare148 Comments Print
Text Size- / +By GREGORY J. KRIEG
Oct. 5, 2011
The cavalry has arrived in Lower Manhattan. Representatives from no fewer than 15 of the country's largest labor unions will join the Occupy Wall Street protesters for a mass rally and march today in New York City.
The AFL-CIO, United Auto Workers, and Transit Workers' Union are among the groups expected to stand in solidarity with the hundreds of mostly young men and women who have spent the better part of three weeks sleeping, eating, and organizing from Zuccotti Square.
Their arrival is being touted as a watershed moment for the "Occupy" movement, which has now seen copycat protests spring up across the country. And while the specific demands of the "occupiers" remain wide-ranging, the presence of the unions – implicitly inclined to making more direct demands – may sharpen their focus.
Today's action is scheduled to begin at 3 p.m. ET, when the protesters in Zuccotti Square march approximately one mile north to Foley Square, where they will be met by community and labor leaders. Then, at 4:30 p.m., they plan to march together back down toward Wall Street. They do not yet have a city-issued permit for the gathering, but are now pursuing one.
The "Union March" is expected to be the movement's largest yet and there is the potential for a significant number of arrests. The New York Police Department booked an estimated 700 protesters Saturday as they attempted to cross the Brooklyn Bridge, bringing the total number arrested to over 1,000 in less than three weeks.
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, speaking at a retirement community in Florida yesterday, denounced the movement. "I think it's dangerous, this class warfare," he said.
While some on the ground welcome the concept of a showdown with the "one percent," organizers (who claim to represent "the 99 percent" of Americans they say are being trampled on by the financial elite), say they remain committed to "non-violent" protest.
The question for today, though, is what affect the presence of labor unions will have on the tenor of the demonstrations. To date, Occupy Wall Street has set their agenda during twice-daily "general assemblies" with large-scale votes and directly elected "working groups."
The unions do not operate this way. They are top-down organizations. Their leaders, though elected, make most decisions autonomously. They are well-versed in fashioning specific appeals, the very concept of which runs counter to Occupy Wall Street's purposefully abstract message.
"Think Facebook or Twitter: These protesters have adopted that same decentralized structure, Columbia University political science Professor Dorian Warren told ABC News yesterday. "There's no one leader. It's not top-down. It's much more democratic, much more 'open-source.'"
"One of the beautiful things about [Occupy Wall Street]," says Professor Yochai Benkler, co-director of Harvard University's Berkman Center for Internet and Society, "is that it is a movement defining itself as it 'becomes.'"
While the concept of "becoming" or "creating space" for dissent, as organizers preach, might seem a bit far off to grizzled union vets, it's a bedrock of the "Occupy movement." But to the hundreds who've made their beds on Zuccotti Park's stone encampment the meta-narrative probably seems a little bit beside the point. Whatever the risks entailed in opening up their action to different groups, with different acting ethics, they're happy for the new support.
But as history reminds, there's no such thing as "free love."
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This movement just got buried.
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I am sure many of these people are lazy lefties. But some or many of them are people just in a fucked up situation and they see Wall Street getting bailed out, they see corruption at the highest levels, they see our true constitutional system fading away.
The problem with this "movement" is that it doesn't have clear demands. Which makes it pray to all sorts of negative press while attracting all kinds of socialistic types.
For me, If that what it takes for the American Public to wake up to the fact that Representative government no longer exists in the country and that we are instead a bought government of elected representatives accountable not to us.
So i support this, i hope it gets real bad, real riots, etc. I hope our public wakes up to things like rigged trade (2-4% tariffs on Chinese goods coming into the USA while they tariff 25% to our goods) I hope people wake up to the Banks bending our government over and doing its bidding virtually unrestricted with out accountability.
I really hope in the end they see Obama for he is, a puppet lame leader and that BUSH was no different in the end.
But its all probably just a pipe dream. :)
Totally agree you man.
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The people behind this mess like Trumka, AFL, Transit Unions are socialists for fucks sake!
Sorry - I want ZERO part of that.
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I am sure many of these people are lazy lefties. But some or many of them are people just in a fucked up situation and they see Wall Street getting bailed out, they see corruption at the highest levels, they see our true constitutional system fading away.
The problem with this "movement" is that it doesn't have clear demands. Which makes it pray to all sorts of negative press while attracting all kinds of socialistic types.
For me, If that what it takes for the American Public to wake up to the fact that Representative government no longer exists in the country and that we are instead a bought government of elected representatives accountable not to us.
So i support this, i hope it gets real bad, real riots, etc. I hope our public wakes up to things like rigged trade (2-4% tariffs on Chinese goods coming into the USA while they tariff 25% to our goods) I hope people wake up to the Banks bending our government over and doing its bidding virtually unrestricted with out accountability.
I really hope in the end they see Obama for he is, a puppet lame leader and that BUSH was no different in the end.
But its all probably just a pipe dream. :)
See items in bold.
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Occupy Wall Street ‘Stands In Solidarity’ With Obama Front Group
Why is the official OWS website in league with lobbying fronts for the Wall Street-backed Obama White House?
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Wednesday, October 5, 2011
Fears expressed by some that the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ movement is being hijacked by the Democratic Party establishment have intensified after the official OWS website announced that it “stands in solidarity” with MoveOn.org, a lobbying group for the Wall Street-backed Obama administration.
The front page of the http://occupywallst.org/ proudly announces that numerous union groups will be present in New York today to join demonstrators in marches taking place this afternoon.
“Together we will protest this great injustice. We stand in solidarity with the honest workers of….MoveOn.org,” states the website, as well as listing numerous other organizations.
What is MoveOn.org?
MoveOn.org is a lobbying organization that routinely backs Democratic candidates. The group aggressively supported Barack Obama’s 2008 election campaign and is now “Perhaps the lead lobby organization for his policies….apart from Obama’s own Organizing for America,” reports Source Watch.
When MoveOn organized an online donation drive for Obama which raised $320,000, the Obama campaign responded in kind with the legally dubious action of paying MoveOn $18,000 in “credit card processing fees”.
The group also received a $5 million dollar donation from George Soros, who is a keen supporter.
Back in 2007, many leftists spoke of their betrayal by MoveOn.org after the group advocated Nancy Pelosi’s funding bill that actually prolonged the war in Iraq and prevented the troops being brought home.
“Join us on Wednesday to create a huge show of support for anti-Wall Street actions nationwide. Together, we’ll add hundreds of thousands of voices expressing our solidarity with the protests at Occupy Wall Street and across the country targeting the bankers who wrecked our economy,” states MoveOn.org’s website.
Yes – the very same bankers – Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase and Citigroup prime amongst them – who financed the Obama campaign, the same campaign vehemently supported by MoveOn.org.
Why does Occupy Wall Street’s support for MoveOn.org represent a problem? Because MoveOn.org is little more than a lobbying front for the Obama administration, which itself is a creature of Wall Street.
Another group that OWS website expresses its “solidarity” with, AFL-CIO, has also announced that it will likely back Wall Street puppet Obama in 2012.
A d v e r t i s e m e n t
The OWS website also stands in solidarity with SEIU (Service Employees International Union), a group that spent $28 million dollars supporting Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign, making it the “organization that spent the most to help Barack Obama get elected president.”
Why is the website that has positioned itself as the central hub for Occupy Wall Street activists announcing its support for groups which are little more than Barack Obama lobbying fronts? Wall Street spent millions financing Obama’s path to the White House and are supporting him to an even greater extent in 2012.
Why is a website that claims to represent anti-Wall Street demonstrators siding with groups that have aggressively supported the Wall Street-backed Obama administration?
Some have argued that it is not fair to cite postings on OccupyWallst.org as representative of the movement’s character or goals. However, this is not a forum posting by an individual, it is prominently displayed on the front page of the website claiming it represents OWS.
Either the Occupy Wall Street website represents an accurate reflection of the sentiments of the protesters, that is supportive of the Wall Street-financed Obama administration and its lobbying front groups such as MoveOn.org, or the message has been hijacked by these very groups.
Either way it represents a threat to the promise made by other OWS activists to remain non-partisan.
Who is running this website and why are they ‘standing in solidarity’ with organizations like MoveOn.org that have aggressively supported the Wall-Street backed Obama administration?
I am going to submit this question to the forum users on the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ website and write a follow up piece on their response. That way we can move a lot closer to understanding whether what is posing as the official website for this “leaderless” group is really representative of the OWS demonstrators or not.
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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show.
OZMO - DO YOU SEE WHY THIS MESS IS A FARCE?
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I already said there will be a bunch of negative press. i also said many of these people have no idea how neck deep Obama is with these bastards.
this will get spun like cheap top.
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I already said there will be a bunch of negative press. i also said many of these people have no idea how neck deep Obama is with these bastards.
this will get spun like cheap top.
Where were these people when the tea party were protesting the bailouts? Where were these people w shiff and paul end the fed rallies?
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Where were these people when the tea party were protesting the bailouts? Where were these people w shiff and paul end the fed rallies?
Those were good too. The problem is they need to do it again.
I am fed up. So when a group goes a protesting against WS it really doesn't bother me who is protesting. I realize that much of what is reported will be negative press and a spin job. But in the heart of that movement, is a dissatisfaction with our government and fact that it is bought and paid for. whether you are a conservative or liberal i hope you can at least agree on that.
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Those were good too. The problem is they need to do it again.
I am fed up. So when a group goes a protesting against WS it really doesn't bother me who is protesting. I realize that much of what is reported will be negative press and a spin job. But in the heart of that movement, is a dissatisfaction with our government and fact that it is bought and paid for. whether you are a conservative or liberal i hope you can at least agree on that.
My focus is on the end goals - not the act alone of protesting.
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My focus is on the end goals - not the act alone of protesting.
good, however its things like this that get more people aware, tearing them away from the idiot box (TV)
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Occupy this: A job
By Michael Graham | Wednesday, October 5, 2011 | http://www.bostonherald.com | Op-Ed
Attention, Boston: The Occupiers want YOU — to do their laundry.
The Occupation movement featured an online posting on Monday requesting “volunteers” to come to the New York City campsite, pick up the protesters’ laundry, “take it to their home to get it clean and bring it back.”
You know — just like Mom?
Has there ever been such a collection of mewling, puking overgrown babies as the clueless college brats of the “Occupation” — a particularly ironic phrase given how few of these oafs actually have one.
Good article. If someone was smart, they'd just drop a fake name and disappear with a good 10-20 loads worth of clothes.
Most people are unaware. Riots will change that. It will spur a national debate and awareness of whats going on.
Riots will preempt American idol.
So what’s stopping you from rioting? Put your money where your mouth is and get out there and start destroying stuff.
Just to be safe and since you seem to keen on destroying other people’s property, PM me your address so that when the riots start I can make sure to bring them right to your doorstep so you don’t miss out. This will also help to make sure you pay your fair share of these riots you’re advocating for. There are no rules in riots and everyone is fair game, and that includes your property.
So come on, put your money where your mouth is. So many pussies sit behind their computer monitors calling for violence and bloodshed yet none of them ever want to step to the plate and initiate it. Always wanting someone else to do the leg-work. Great example of what’s wrong with this country.
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good, however its things like this that get more people aware, tearing them away from the idiot box (TV)
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/9/15/128659919923427988.jpg#watch%20it%20sucka)
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Where was Ozmo two years ago? I'll give props to guys like 333, Bindare, Whorewell and a few others as they're pretty much the only guys that have been consistently saying everything that's happening would happen. The rest were too busy sucking Obama's dick or making excuses for him.
LET'S SPEND MORE MONEY! $60 TRILLION IN UNFUNDED LIABILITIES ISN'T ENOUGH!
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So what’s stopping you from rioting? Put your money where your mouth is and get out there and start destroying stuff.
Just to be safe and since you seem to keen on destroying other people’s property, PM me your address so that when the riots start I can make sure to bring them right to your doorstep so you don’t miss out. This will also help to make sure you pay your fair share of these riots you’re advocating for. There are no rules in riots and everyone is fair game, and that includes your property.
So come on, put your money where your mouth is. So many pussies sit behind their computer monitors calling for violence and bloodshed yet none of them ever want to step to the plate and initiate it. Always wanting someone else to do the leg-work. Great example of what’s wrong with this country.
Kind of hard to have a one man riot. I would hope it wouldn't get to that, but you know very well nothing will happen unless there is serous unrest which will unfortunately include riots. People like you will just continue to play the "blame the other side game" which keeps people's focus away from what's really happening: rigged trade, our government bowing down to banks, out sourcing, globalization, etc.
Speaking of pussies behind the computer monitor... I think that fits you well. All you mostly do here attack people. Kind of like low grade troll. But excuse me, what you are is a immature douche. :-*
Where was Ozmo two years ago? I'll give props to guys like 333, Bindare, Whorewell and a few others as they're pretty much the only guys that have been consistently saying everything that's happening would happen. The rest were too busy sucking Obama's dick or making excuses for him.
LET'S SPEND MORE MONEY! $60 TRILLION IN UNFUNDED LIABILITIES ISN'T ENOUGH!
2 years ago i didn't understand it that way i do now. but you go ahead and beat that tool drum of yours. Let's see if i got it right......We are in the mess we are in because of democrats and liberals right?
wow, and playing the "internet tough guy card" card? how pathetic.
Grow up ass hole.
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Kind of hard to have a one man riot. I would hope it wouldn't get to that, but you know very well nothing will happen unless there is serous unrest which will unfortunately include riots. People like you will just continue to play the "blame the other side game" which keeps people's focus away from what's really happening: rigged trade, our government bowing down to banks, out sourcing, globalization, etc.
Speaking of pussies behind the computer monitor... I think that fits you well. All you mostly do here attack people. Kind of like low grade troll. But excuse me, what you are is a immature douche. :-*
2 years ago i didn't understand it that way i do now. but you go ahead and beat that tool drum of yours. Let's see if i got it right......We are in the mess we are in because of democrats and liberals right?
wow, and playing the "internet tough guy card" card? how pathetic.
Grow up ass hole.
Yeah, cause it's so grown up to advocate sedition while doing nothing yourself. ::)
Do as I say, not as I do doesn't seperate you from anybody else not doing anything. I know you think you've achieved some high level of enlightment by pointing out that both sides have problems. But crying about people because -at the moment - they happen to be taking on one side or another hardly seperates you from anybody else.
This crap isn't waking anybody up. If somebody was going to watch The Office tonight, they sure as shit aren't going to stop because some douchebag is yelling down on Wallstreet.
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Yeah, cause it's so grown up to advocate sedition while doing nothing yourself. ::)
Do as I say, not as I do doesn't seperate you from anybody else not doing anything. I know you think you've achieved some high level of enlightment by pointing out that both sides have problems. But crying about people because -at the moment - they happen to be taking on one side or another hardly seperates you from anybody else.
This crap isn't waking anybody up. If somebody was going to watch The Office tonight, they sure as shit aren't going to stop because some douchebag is yelling down on Wallstreet.
Well said.
I can't stop laughing at this protest. Was looking at pics tonight and pretty much every person had a smartphone or digital camera worth hundreds of dollars whipped out. Verizon and AT&T run roughly $100/month for their smartphone plans. That's $1200/year before factoring in the cost of the phone. Yet that won't stop them from somehow paying. Yeah, these people are "the 99%". ::)
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Oz's problem= Everything is a moral equivalency argument, everyone is equally bad, all religions are violent, all politicians are to blame, Wall Street is to blame, nobody is better than anybody else and everyone is the best at everything.
You occasionally make semi inteligent/ witty posts, but you overshadow them by refusing to confront reality so you can pat yourself on the back for being neutral.
Have some balls man.
Take a side.
There is no "us"-- this country couldn't be more divided. You and about 10% of the population stand in the middle and smugly wave your finger at everyone else saying- 'See! it's not liberal policies, its all politicians, its not just Obama, it was Bush and Obama"-- What the fuck does that solve? Nothing.
What is your solution? Pass an amendment to take all money out of politics? ::)
Just like these braindead, jobless slobs attracting flies in downtown Manhattan, you have no coherent or consistent message with respect to solving the issues that this country faces. Haven't you learned anything after three years of Osama in the White House and a liberal stronghold in Congress that only recently ended? Change just for the sake of change is not necessarily a good thing. Protesting for the hell of it is stupid. Having no aims except causing chaos doesn't make things better.
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The coordinated union assault co-opting this protest now just confirms that it's Madison, WI redux.
Notice everyone has shut up about this country being bankrupt? Even as the debt increases by $120 billion in 3 days? Great agitprop.
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The biggest gripe these tools have is that they are not on the main receiving end of the govt cheese.
Yeah Wall Street holds that position
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These people represent everything I am against.
And that video you posted of that guy? Notice how what he was saying went right over the heads of all those people? Those people don't want to hear it. They want socialism and a nanny state. They want to crush capitalism, not foster it.
These people want massive govt.
Well you support Wall Street and Wall STreet = The government so actually your the commie now
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Yeah, cause it's so grown up to advocate sedition while doing nothing yourself. ::)
Do as I say, not as I do doesn't seperate you from anybody else not doing anything. I know you think you've achieved some high level of enlightment by pointing out that both sides have problems. But crying about people because -at the moment - they happen to be taking on one side or another hardly seperates you from anybody else.
This crap isn't waking anybody up. If somebody was going to watch The Office tonight, they sure as shit aren't going to stop because some douchebag is yelling down on Wallstreet.
I am not advocating sedition. I am advocating change in the mess we call our system of government. Taking a side with out attacking the core problems does nothing to solve these core problems. it only perpetuates more finger pointing and continues corruption.
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Yeah, cause it's so grown up to advocate sedition while doing nothing yourself. ::)
Do as I say, not as I do doesn't seperate you from anybody else not doing anything. I know you think you've achieved some high level of enlightment by pointing out that both sides have problems. But crying about people because -at the moment - they happen to be taking on one side or another hardly seperates you from anybody else.
This crap isn't waking anybody up. If somebody was going to watch The Office tonight, they sure as shit aren't going to stop because some douchebag is yelling down on Wallstreet.
Well it sure as hell beat writing posts on a BB board
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:)
http://americapsycho.wordpress.com/2011/10/02/occupy-wall-street-photos
More pics here.
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Oz's problem= Everything is a moral equivalency argument, everyone is equally bad, all religions are violent, all politicians are to blame, Wall Street is to blame, nobody is better than anybody else and everyone is the best at everything.
You occasionally make semi inteligent/ witty posts, but you overshadow them by refusing to confront reality so you can pat yourself on the back for being neutral.
Have some balls man.
Take a side.
There is no "us"-- this country couldn't be more divided. You and about 10% of the population stand in the middle and smugly wave your finger at everyone else saying- 'See! it's not liberal policies, its all politicians, its not just Obama, it was Bush and Obama"-- What the fuck does that solve? Nothing.
What is your solution? Pass an amendment to take all money out of politics? ::)
Just like these braindead, jobless slobs attracting flies in downtown Manhattan, you have no coherent or consistent message with respect to solving the issues that this country faces. Haven't you learned anything after three years of Osama in the White House and a liberal stronghold in Congress that only recently ended? Change just for the sake of change is not necessarily a good thing. Protesting for the hell of it is stupid. Having no aims except causing chaos doesn't make things better.
I am taking side. That's the point. The side I am taking is the solution side. It's madness to think that simply putting more staunch republicans or democrats in the white house is going to enact the change needed in this country to bring back representative government, rid us of bank favoritism, solve rigged trade policies, out sourcing, bloated run away spending, shady loans, unnecessary wars etc.
This is what i have learned GW: The last 11 years has proven either a republican or democrat controlled government will not do it, but instead just further the interests of the money that helped them get elected.
I think getting money of politics is a good place to start a debate dialog. It may not be the perfect solution at the moment for some of the reasons you and others brought up, but it is a start, one I want to explore more.
That's the thing that cracks me up with some of you guys saying I have to take a side. Taking a side only perpetuates more of the same. I refuse to "take a side". Fuck the sides.
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:)
http://americapsycho.wordpress.com/2011/10/02/occupy-wall-street-photos
More pics here.
And i have spent the last 10 posts defending these guys LOL
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What a complete joke these protests are...
I fear the real protests will come soon though
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What a complete joke these protests are...
I fear the real protests will come soon though
Joke or not i support any protest against Wall Street
And now i am empleyed taxpayer not a welfare commie :)
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Occupy Wall Street? Do you even understand Wall Street?
Forbes.com ^ | Oct. 3, 2011 | Doug Hirschhorn
Go ahead, Occupy Wall Street until your heart is content, but could you please be a little more specific on who or what you are angry at? The Sell-side? The Buy-side? Financial advisors? Retail traders? Mutual funds? The Sales traders? The Execution traders? The Market makers? The flow traders? The Research analysts? The Quants? The High Frequency traders? The Administrative Assistants? The Human Resource departments? The IT departments? Prime Brokerage sales? The Risk Managers? I am confused.
Do you even know the difference between sell-side and buy-side? Or is it everyone you are angry at and just taking the lazy short-cut and calling the whole group “Wall Street” because you have failed, on your own, to take the time to really understand the industry you are protesting?
You do realize that is not much different then generalizing an entire population (and in this case, industry) because of the crimes or ethical miscues of a few.
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Occupy Wall Street? Do you even understand Wall Street?
Forbes.com ^ | Oct. 3, 2011 | Doug Hirschhorn
Go ahead, Occupy Wall Street until your heart is content, but could you please be a little more specific on who or what you are angry at? The Sell-side? The Buy-side? Financial advisors? Retail traders? Mutual funds? The Sales traders? The Execution traders? The Market makers? The flow traders? The Research analysts? The Quants? The High Frequency traders? The Administrative Assistants? The Human Resource departments? The IT departments? Prime Brokerage sales? The Risk Managers? I am confused.
Do you even know the difference between sell-side and buy-side? Or is it everyone you are angry at and just taking the lazy short-cut and calling the whole group “Wall Street” because you have failed, on your own, to take the time to really understand the industry you are protesting?
You do realize that is not much different then generalizing an entire population (and in this case, industry) because of the crimes or ethical miscues of a few.
(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...
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I'd bet 99% of the people on this forum couldn't differentiate between the buy-side and sell-side without consulting Google. That goes for all the tinfoil hatter morons. But they just KNOW deep down what's really going on! ::)
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i don't think you can pry yourself away from your computor long enough ;D
lol
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lol
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Tha fuck does that have to do with me?
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Tha fuck does that have to do with me?
Think about it for awhile.
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Think about it for awhile.
Im not in a Union. My parents arent in unions. My sister isnt in SAG and My brother is a Gunny sgt, In the USMC
What in fucks name does that have to do with me that you would quote me on it?
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Tha fuck does that have to do with me?
Because people like you, (liberals) are responsible for everything that is wrong with America.
Its basically ALL YOUR FAULT.
You either buy in 100% into conservative thinking and the republican party or you are EVIL and are the problem.
If it wasn't for liberals like you, this country would be paradise.
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No - what this "movement" seeks is more taxpayer money to the govt to pay off govt employee unions.
These leeches want more taxes on people to pay for the forces that are bankrupting this society and the states.
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Because people like you, (liberals) are responsible for everything that is wrong with America.
Its basically ALL YOUR FAULT.
You either buy in 100% into conservative thinking and the republican party or you are EVIL and are the problem.
If it wasn't for liberals like you, this country would be paradise.
Unions are just as responsible as Wall St. They've done a tremendous job running the manufacturing jobs out of the country and now their only solution is to demand more free shit.
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No - what this "movement" seeks is more taxpayer money to the govt to pay off govt employee unions.
These leeches want more taxes on people to pay for the forces that are bankrupting this society and the states.
Still.. what the fuck does that have to do with me..a picture of a pig and a skeleton. unions vs tax payer..
How does that apply to me in your head.. how does posting that picture and quoting me correlate.
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Still.. what the fuck does that have to do with me..a picture of a pig and a skeleton. unions vs tax payer..
How does that apply to me in your head.. how does posting that picture and quoting me correlate.
guess
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Unions are just as responsible as Wall St. They've done a tremendous job running the manufacturing jobs out of the country and now their only solution is to demand more free shit.
I don't disagree with that. Take their power away. Take money out of politics.
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The new highlight of these protests has to be all the Dems falling hand-over-foot to position themselves as "sympathizing" with the protesters, including President Downgrade. How many millions did this asshole accept in Wall St. donations and how many former Wall Streeters are in his administration?
You can't write this shit. Whatever small point this protest had has been completely negated by the union thugs, the Van Joneses and the Dems co-opting it. It's Wisconsin redux. Got to make up for the failure that was that fiasco.
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Again - these morons dont realize that 40k taxpayers fund 50% of the NYC budget, that pays for everything. So when these pieces of dirty hippie trash shut down Wall street - where does the money come from to make up for the shortfall in revenue?
This is typical liberal bullshit and ignorance.
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Again - these morons dont realize that 40k taxpayers fund 50% of the NYC budget, that pays for everything. So when these pieces of dirty hippie trash shut down Wall street - where does the money come from to make up for the shortfall in revenue?
This is typical liberal bullshit and ignorance.
We can tax and spend our way out of this depression. Honest! The trillions the Downgrade regime have already spent were just greasing the wheels. The checkered flag is out and the next $5+ trillion we fill everything. Promise!
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guess
Im asking you to tell me
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Wall Street Protesters: Obama Didn't Fail Us, We Failed Obama
Linette Lopez | Oct. 6, 2011, 2:04 PM | 369 | 7
See Also:
Democrats Tap Into Occupy Wall Street Protests, Attack Republicans For Bank Ties
OCCUPY WALL STREET: Meet Some Of The ProtestersOccupy Wall Street Protesters Attempted To Occupy The NYSE On Wednesday Night
Until today, Obama didn't have much to say about Occupy Wall Street. But at his press conference today, all of that changed when a reporter asked him what the thought about the protests.
Obama said:
"I think people are frustrated. And, you know, the — the protesters are giving voice to a more broad based frustration about how our financial system works."
It wasn't a total vote of support, but it was certainly a show of sympathy for the cause. And he should have sympathy. Obama's pushing more regulation of Wall Street, and so are many of the protesters. The DNC is even trying to ride on that sentiment in a campaign commercial.
But what do the protesters think of him as leader?
Sure there are the super left-wing signs comparing the entire U.S. government to Nazis and capitalism to slavery, but what's the consensus?
When we asked Occupy Wall Streeters, we realized that it was a complicated relationship. But here's the gist. President Obama didn't fail us. We failed President Obama.
When Republicans want to say the people support their policies, they have a vocal, active Tea Party to point to and say, "see, the American people want this."
Obama has no one. Many protesters want to give him someone — a lot of someones — to point to and say, "see the American people want regulation, they want reform."
They may not become a political party, but protesters certainly are vocal, and they know how to rally support. Perhaps, at least for the President, that's all they need to do.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/wall-street-protesters-express-support-for-president-obama-2011-10#ixzz1a1nGEyBN
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Wall Street Protesters: Obama Didn't Fail Us, We Failed Obama
Linette Lopez | Oct. 6, 2011, 2:04 PM | 369 | 7
See Also:
Democrats Tap Into Occupy Wall Street Protests, Attack Republicans For Bank Ties
OCCUPY WALL STREET: Meet Some Of The ProtestersOccupy Wall Street Protesters Attempted To Occupy The NYSE On Wednesday Night
Until today, Obama didn't have much to say about Occupy Wall Street. But at his press conference today, all of that changed when a reporter asked him what the thought about the protests.
Obama said:
"I think people are frustrated. And, you know, the — the protesters are giving voice to a more broad based frustration about how our financial system works."
It wasn't a total vote of support, but it was certainly a show of sympathy for the cause. And he should have sympathy. Obama's pushing more regulation of Wall Street, and so are many of the protesters. The DNC is even trying to ride on that sentiment in a campaign commercial.
But what do the protesters think of him as leader?
Sure there are the super left-wing signs comparing the entire U.S. government to Nazis and capitalism to slavery, but what's the consensus?
When we asked Occupy Wall Streeters, we realized that it was a complicated relationship. But here's the gist. President Obama didn't fail us. We failed President Obama.
When Republicans want to say the people support their policies, they have a vocal, active Tea Party to point to and say, "see, the American people want this."
Obama has no one. Many protesters want to give him someone — a lot of someones — to point to and say, "see the American people want regulation, they want reform."
They may not become a political party, but protesters certainly are vocal, and they know how to rally support. Perhaps, at least for the President, that's all they need to do.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/wall-street-protesters-express-support-for-president-obama-2011-10#ixzz1a1nGEyBN
I don`t know why they would say that honestly. Obama I am sure hates these protesters and thinks they are morons.
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I am not advocating sedition. I am advocating change in the mess we call our system of government. Taking a side with out attacking the core problems does nothing to solve these core problems. it only perpetuates more finger pointing and continues corruption.
I don't think it has to be about taking sides - not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that from an ideological perspective.
But, just because people are criticizing Solyndra, doesn't mean they're into sucking Boehner's cock and it's definitely not necessary to qualify each attack against one side by pointing out how much the other side sucks. Everybody knows they both suck.
Anyhow, the "root" of the problem, in my opinion is human beings and a lack of values, principles, etc. Maybe the best thing to do is have more objective equations in our fiscal management and less human intervention? IDK.
BF makes an excellent point above. I bet most of these douchebags don't even understand the basics of wallstreet. Hell I'm reasonably educated and couldn't tell you the difference between a buy, a put, a sell, derivatives, or whatever the terms are.
So if they're going to protest, at least put forth some reasonably understandable demands, changes, and REALISTIC PLANS OF ACTION.
Endlessly crying that things should be changed without having any actual options for change is about as juvenile as it gets.
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I don't think it has to be about taking sides - not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that from an ideological perspective.
But, just because people are criticizing Solyndra, doesn't mean they're into sucking Boehner's cock and it's definitely not necessary to qualify each attack against one side by pointing out how much the other side sucks. Everybody knows they both suck.
Anyhow, the "root" of the problem, in my opinion is human beings and a lack of values, principles, etc. Maybe the best thing to do is have more objective equations in our fiscal management and less human intervention? IDK.
BF makes an excellent point above. I bet most of these douchebags don't even understand the basics of wallstreet. Hell I'm reasonably educated and couldn't tell you the difference between a buy, a put, a sell, derivatives, or whatever the terms are.
So if they're going to protest, at least put forth some reasonably understandable demands, changes, and REALISTIC PLANS OF ACTION.
Endlessly crying that things should be changed without having any actual options for change is about as juvenile as it gets.
This.
To be honest, this whole fucking thing reeks of an Obama campaign ploy.
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Jobs number comes out tommorow and we are heading to double dip. Bama knows he cant blame Bush, so he is shitfing his blame to the banks now.
He knows there are plenty of dupes like Andre, Straw, Blackass, and the others who will eat up the excuses like pie.
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Jobs number comes out tommorow and we are heading to double dip. Bama knows he cant blame Bush, so he is shitfing his blame to the banks now.
He knows there are plenty of dupes like Andre, Straw, Blackass, and the others who will eat up the excuses like pie.
Zerohedge says the jobs number should be negative. It won't be, though. Doctored to 25k or so. RECOVERY! ::)
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Im asking you to tell me
bump
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bump
I posted the pic because it represents exactly the situation we are in and the end result of Obamanomics, the goals of these wall street protesters, and liberalism in general. Typically your positions are what that picture epitomizes.
Spare the bs about fairness and the like, the reality of obamanomics, liberalnomics, kenyanomics,
left wingnomics is exactly that picture.
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I posted the pic because it represents exactly the situation we are in and the end result of Obamanomics, the goals of these wall street protesters, and liberalism in general. Typically your positions are what that picture epitomizes.
Spare the bs about fairness and the like, the reality of obamanomics, liberalnomics, kenyanomics,
left wingnomics is exactly that picture.
I ask what the fuck it had to do with me.
What positions have i ever taken that implied or stated anything about unions.. tha fuck are you getting your info..
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I ask what the fuck it had to do with me.
What positions have i ever taken that implied or stated anything about unions.. tha fuck are you getting your info..
Where do you think tax money goes to?
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Where do you think tax money goes to?
Who the fuck said i was for higher taxes shit head?
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Who the fuck said i was for higher taxes shit head?
Thats what every single obama "jobs" bill, obamacare, and other program he has calls for.
BTW - chill out dude - I thought the pic was funny and representative of the goals of these protestors. I wasnt calling you a pig or anything.
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Here's the thing.
Money isn't 'real' - it's a fairly abstract concept.
Gold has no real value either.
What 'money' really is, is a store of value. This could be interchanged with Silver, Gold, Skittles, Acorns whatever. It exists to store value and is a lot easier than barter.
Value comes from production of goods & services. Value comes from you making something or giving somebody a service. It does not come from moving numbers around on a spreadsheet and calling it a financial service.
Wall Street doesn't produce anything. It does indeed provide services but this is a very small portion of what it does. Wall Street is continually under the impression that it can create value from nothing. This is why they keep blowing up. They create sexy new products that give people 'value' but in reality are a sham. Still - real 'value' is absorbed in the process and that has to come from elsewhere because Wall Street don't produce anything.
What Wall Street currently is, is a form of tax that everybody gets hit with.
You could scrap 90% of what Wall Street does and there would be no negative impact on society.
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Liberals are not the problem persay.
Money in politics is not the problem either-- although it is related to the problem.
The problem is that the line between public and private sector has been blurred to the point of being indistinguishable. Bailouts, career politicians that draft legislation which encourages reckless behavior that fattens the pockets of corrupt investment bankers and CEO's, tramples on your average American and destroys the economy, the expansion of government beuracracy, the takeover of private industry by the federal government, the federal government printing more money=
GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM. GOVERNMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE PROBLEM. WALL STREET IS MERELY PLAYING THE RULES SET BY THE GOVERNMENT. GET THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND ALL THIS SHIT WILL WORK ITSELF OUT.
Liberals are to blame because they= Advocate more government, bigger government, and less freedom in the private sector.
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(The Washington Times) — President Obama’s shock troops are marching in the streets. Occupy Wall Street — a movement composed of communists, anarchists, socialists and anti-globalization student radicals — is spreading. Protests have swelled in cities including New York, Washington, Los Angeles, Chicago, Denver and Philadelphia. The protesters are gaining influence and numbers. A ragtag group of hippie students has turned into a potent political force.
Occupy Wall Street seeks to demonize big banks, large corporations and capitalism. Its goal is to overturn America’s economic structure. The protesters are calling for wealth redistribution, fees on bank profits and massive tax increases on the rich. Many are demanding a socialist revolution — the confiscation of private property and nationalization of the economy. They are the heirs of Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels and Vladimir Lenin. Their aim is to impose the hammer and sickle upon America.
Leftist radicals, such as Michael Moore and Noam Chomsky, have endorsed the anti-capitalist movement. Both men have glorified authoritarian communist regimes — Fidel Castro’s Cuba, Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela and the old Soviet Union. Their hatred for America has found expression in the rabble on the streets of New York and Washington. Actress Roseanne Barr even has called for the return of the “guillotine.” She wants bankers to be sent to “re-education camps,” and if they still refuse to hand over their profits, they should be beheaded, she says. This is the language of revolutionary terror and Marxist violence.
Mr. Obama has said he “sympathizes” with the protesters — especially their anger at Wall Street and “fat-cat” bankers. For years, he has demonized billionaires and millionaires, jet owners and corporate America. His divisive, irresponsible rhetoric has laid the groundwork for Occupy Wall Street.
The White House connection is even deeper. The protest’s main players all have ties to the Obama administration. Its primary organizer is former Obama “green-jobs czar” Van Jones. Mr. Jones is a self-avowed communist and follower of Saul Alinsky, the radical community organizer who also was Mr. Obama’s intellectual mentor. Mr. Jones said October is the month of the long-awaited “progressive offensive” — the watershed moment when students, labor unions, socialists and civil rights activists coalesce into an anti-Tea Party to blunt Middle America’s growing opposition to Mr. Obama.
Occupy Wall Street also is being supported by MoveOn.org. The group was one of the first to back Mr. Obama’s presidential candidacy when he was still an obscure senator from Illinois. The protests are being funded by socialist billionaire George Soros — a key Obama ally. And the protesters are being joined by big labor, the administration’s most powerful constituency.
Hence, Occupy Wall Street is not a spontaneous uprising of disenchanted citizens frustrated with corporate plutocracy and capitalist excess. Rather, it is a planned, manufactured attempt to prop up Mr. Obama’s failed presidency. It is a page taken straight from the Alinsky playbook: Demonize bankers and businessmen in order to divert attention from the real source of our economic woes, Mr. Obama’s policies.
The president inherited a recession, and he has deepened it. His out-of-control spending and trillion-dollar deficits have brought us to the brink of bankruptcy. America’s debt credit rating has been downgraded. Growth has slowed to less than 1 percent. Unemployment has risen above 9 percent. Inflation is rising as consumer confidence declines. Obamacare is strangling job creation and business investment. Mr. Obama has waged war upon the private sector. If those students are truly angry about joblessness and a bleak future, they should direct their fury at the president.
Instead, they mouth leftist pieties. They are a spoiled, dependent and illiterate generation that believes it is entitled to government handouts, state coddling and permanent prosperity. They don’t wish to be self-reliant and make their own way; rather, they want others — successful, productive members of society — to transfer their hard-earned money to subsidize their indolence. They are the kind of deadbeats the welfare state eventually produces — lazy, whining and shameless.
Alinsky argued that an economic crisis inevitably fosters a political crisis. The key for the hard left was to take advantage of our misery to seize power and impose a socialist regime. By sowing street mayhem, Occupy Wall Street is hoping to demoralize and distract Middle America into believing big business is the evil culprit for the financial collapse. The very opposite, however, is true. Meddlesome government intervention caused the housing bubble, the subprime mortgage debacle and the reckless bank lending practices that triggered the Great Recession. The way out is not more statism; it is less. Only a vibrant free market can restore economic recovery and stimulate job growth.
The protesters are not interested in real solutions. They are political activists masquerading as concerned citizens. Progressives are desperate to keep Mr. Obama in office. This is why the president is deliberately encouraging Occupy Wall Street. He hopes to create enough bedlam and then target Republicans, the Tea Party and the rich. He is pursuing the Alinsky strategy of divide and conquer, pitting interest groups and different classes against each other.
Mr. Obama has unleashed class hatred and racial hostility in the pursuit of state socialism. It is clear that his 2008 campaign slogan of “hope and change” was really a thinly veiled rallying cry, not to save the nation, but to precipitate the downfall of American capitalism.
Jeffrey T. Kuhner is a columnist at The Washington Times and president of the Edmund Burke Institute.
He's right. This is an attempt by the far-left to save Obama's presidency. They're giving everything they got and trying to beat the incoming financial implosion that will guarantee he doesn't get reelected.
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Wall Street Responsible For One-Third Of Obama's Campaign Funds (July 22, 2011)
Business Insider ^ | Jul. 22, 2011 | Ricky Kreitner
Posted on October 6, 2011 3:34:59 PM EDT by Qbert
One-third of the Obama re-election campaign's record-breaking second-quarter fundraising came from sources associated with the financial sector, the Washington Post reports.
That percentage is up from the 20% of donations that came from Wall Street donors in 2008, and contradicts reports that a growing Wall Street animosity towards the Obama administration may jeopardize his re-election bid.
Obama's $86 million haul set a record for incumbent fundraising at this point in an election campaign. While the campaign has downplayed the larger donations by emphasizing that the average donation was $69, it also released a list of contributions by "bundlers;" those who can "bundle" more than $50,000 in contributions from friends, relatives and business associates.
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
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(The Washington Times) — President Obama’s shock troops are marching in the streets. Occupy Wall Street — a movement composed of communists, anarchists, socialists and anti-globalization student radicals — is spreading. Protests have swelled in cities including New York, Washington, Los Angeles, Chicago, Denver and Philadelphia. The protesters are gaining influence and numbers. A ragtag group of hippie students has turned into a potent political force.
Occupy Wall Street seeks to demonize big banks, large corporations and capitalism. Its goal is to overturn America’s economic structure. The protesters are calling for wealth redistribution, fees on bank profits and massive tax increases on the rich. Many are demanding a socialist revolution — the confiscation of private property and nationalization of the economy. They are the heirs of Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels and Vladimir Lenin. Their aim is to impose the hammer and sickle upon America.
Leftist radicals, such as Michael Moore and Noam Chomsky, have endorsed the anti-capitalist movement. Both men have glorified authoritarian communist regimes — Fidel Castro’s Cuba, Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela and the old Soviet Union. Their hatred for America has found expression in the rabble on the streets of New York and Washington. Actress Roseanne Barr even has called for the return of the “guillotine.” She wants bankers to be sent to “re-education camps,” and if they still refuse to hand over their profits, they should be beheaded, she says. This is the language of revolutionary terror and Marxist violence.
Mr. Obama has said he “sympathizes” with the protesters — especially their anger at Wall Street and “fat-cat” bankers. For years, he has demonized billionaires and millionaires, jet owners and corporate America. His divisive, irresponsible rhetoric has laid the groundwork for Occupy Wall Street.
The White House connection is even deeper. The protest’s main players all have ties to the Obama administration. Its primary organizer is former Obama “green-jobs czar” Van Jones. Mr. Jones is a self-avowed communist and follower of Saul Alinsky, the radical community organizer who also was Mr. Obama’s intellectual mentor. Mr. Jones said October is the month of the long-awaited “progressive offensive” — the watershed moment when students, labor unions, socialists and civil rights activists coalesce into an anti-Tea Party to blunt Middle America’s growing opposition to Mr. Obama.
Occupy Wall Street also is being supported by MoveOn.org. The group was one of the first to back Mr. Obama’s presidential candidacy when he was still an obscure senator from Illinois. The protests are being funded by socialist billionaire George Soros — a key Obama ally. And the protesters are being joined by big labor, the administration’s most powerful constituency.
Hence, Occupy Wall Street is not a spontaneous uprising of disenchanted citizens frustrated with corporate plutocracy and capitalist excess. Rather, it is a planned, manufactured attempt to prop up Mr. Obama’s failed presidency. It is a page taken straight from the Alinsky playbook: Demonize bankers and businessmen in order to divert attention from the real source of our economic woes, Mr. Obama’s policies.
The president inherited a recession, and he has deepened it. His out-of-control spending and trillion-dollar deficits have brought us to the brink of bankruptcy. America’s debt credit rating has been downgraded. Growth has slowed to less than 1 percent. Unemployment has risen above 9 percent. Inflation is rising as consumer confidence declines. Obamacare is strangling job creation and business investment. Mr. Obama has waged war upon the private sector. If those students are truly angry about joblessness and a bleak future, they should direct their fury at the president.
Instead, they mouth leftist pieties. They are a spoiled, dependent and illiterate generation that believes it is entitled to government handouts, state coddling and permanent prosperity. They don’t wish to be self-reliant and make their own way; rather, they want others — successful, productive members of society — to transfer their hard-earned money to subsidize their indolence. They are the kind of deadbeats the welfare state eventually produces — lazy, whining and shameless.
Alinsky argued that an economic crisis inevitably fosters a political crisis. The key for the hard left was to take advantage of our misery to seize power and impose a socialist regime. By sowing street mayhem, Occupy Wall Street is hoping to demoralize and distract Middle America into believing big business is the evil culprit for the financial collapse. The very opposite, however, is true. Meddlesome government intervention caused the housing bubble, the subprime mortgage debacle and the reckless bank lending practices that triggered the Great Recession. The way out is not more statism; it is less. Only a vibrant free market can restore economic recovery and stimulate job growth.
The protesters are not interested in real solutions. They are political activists masquerading as concerned citizens. Progressives are desperate to keep Mr. Obama in office. This is why the president is deliberately encouraging Occupy Wall Street. He hopes to create enough bedlam and then target Republicans, the Tea Party and the rich. He is pursuing the Alinsky strategy of divide and conquer, pitting interest groups and different classes against each other.
Mr. Obama has unleashed class hatred and racial hostility in the pursuit of state socialism. It is clear that his 2008 campaign slogan of “hope and change” was really a thinly veiled rallying cry, not to save the nation, but to precipitate the downfall of American capitalism.
Jeffrey T. Kuhner is a columnist at The Washington Times and president of the Edmund Burke Institute.
He's right. This is an attempt by the far-left to save Obama's presidency. They're giving everything they got and trying to beat the incoming financial implosion that will guarantee he doesn't get reelected.
I don't know, I wish I was there. I'm seeing and hearing many different things.
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Wall Street Responsible For One-Third Of Obama's Campaign Funds (July 22, 2011)
Business Insider ^ | Jul. 22, 2011 | Ricky Kreitner
Posted on October 6, 2011 3:34:59 PM EDT by Qbert
One-third of the Obama re-election campaign's record-breaking second-quarter fundraising came from sources associated with the financial sector, the Washington Post reports.
That percentage is up from the 20% of donations that came from Wall Street donors in 2008, and contradicts reports that a growing Wall Street animosity towards the Obama administration may jeopardize his re-election bid.
Obama's $86 million haul set a record for incumbent fundraising at this point in an election campaign. While the campaign has downplayed the larger donations by emphasizing that the average donation was $69, it also released a list of contributions by "bundlers;" those who can "bundle" more than $50,000 in contributions from friends, relatives and business associates.
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I`ve tried to explain to you that Obama thinks these Wall Street Protesting Kooks are largely morons.
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Here is a another and what I think more accurate view of whats happening there.
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I am also hearing there are a lot of young people mixed in there that are libertarian/conservatives. They are trying to shift the focus from Wall Street/Capitalism to the Federal Reserve System. Soros and Obama are just co-opting the movement just like the neo cons co-opted the Tea Party.
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Occupy Wall Street Could be Disaster for Democrats
Commentary Magazine ^ | 10-4-11 | Abe Greenwald
You know real change is upon us because the celebrity left has come together. Susan Sarandon, Russell Simmons, Michael Moore, Roseanne Barr, Mark Ruffalo, Yoko Ono, and Alec Baldwin are speaking out. And when this many famous millionaires get preachy at the same time it can only mean one thing: they’ve had it up to here with the rich.
Just as when hundreds of protestors claim police brutality their next logical step is to demand a larger and more powerful state, of course.
If you’re having problems grasping the nuances of the Occupy Wall Street movement, you haven’t been paying attention to the present-day left. And good for you.
The self-demonizing millionaires and state-worshipping police haters barely scratch the surface of the ideological dyslexia at work. One Occupy Wall Street member’s proposed “list of demands” calls first for nativist “trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market,” and then for one-worldist “open borders migration,” so that “anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.” The document, like the motivation behind it, is a hodgepodge of paranoia, entitlement, self-pity, self-righteousness, class warfare, and economic illiteracy. If this spotty protest moment becomes broad-based and loud the thorough airing of modern-day leftism will prove to be a conservative’s election-year dream come true.
On Monday, with Occupy Wall Street spawning copycat demonstrations in Los Angeles, Denver, Chicago, Pittsburgh, and elsewhere, the Washington Post’s E.J. Dionne asked hopefully, “Can the left stage a Tea Party?” I don’t know if it can but if I were a GOP strategist I’d be praying that it does.
The true leftist agenda is so surreal Republicans couldn’t satirize it if they tried. (“Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.”) These leftists are so reckless that an extended, high profile “occupation” movement of national reach would bury liberalism months before November 2012. It would, in short, function for Democrats exactly as Democrats had hoped (in vain) that the Tea Party would function for Republicans in 2010. In unhinged “Occupiers,” conservatives would find an easy and clean target to run against and destroy. What’s more, this would force Barack Obama either to publicly walk back all the class-warfare rhetoric that the protesters have taken to heart or to sink as one of their number. He has long nurtured dual personae, vacillating in political style between inflammatory community-organizer and conciliatory high-office holder. A large national Occupier movement would require him to end that game once and for all.
Tea Partiers didn’t dash conservative hopes in 2010 because they were on the right side of history. While they demanded smaller government and less spending we watched Europe nearly collapse under the weight of regulation and entitlements. Their message made sense to Americans. But watching Russell Simmons—the anti-capitalist zillionaire—meditate with nose-pierced 20-somethings on the hope that more stimulus will fall like rain is unlikely to sway independent voters. In the age of Solyndra, the Occupiers’ call for “a fast track process” to bring “the alternative energy economy up to energy demand,” (Demand Five) isn’t going to resonate. Protestors’ appeal for the U.S. to stop supporting Israel is a non-starter in an America where Christian conservatives and Jewish liberals have been holding Obama’s feet to the fire on his hostility to the Jewish state.
With all these ill-suited messages and hypocritical messengers it’s easy to overlook the one timely half-truth among the Occupiers’ gripes: government and big business have grown entirely too close. I say half-truth because the protestors fail to understand that the road to change runs through Washington and not Wall Street. As long as government tries to pick private-sector winners, green or otherwise, corporatism endures. And as long as regulatory regimes prohibit large-scale investment by all but the most seasoned lobbyists, the market will remain less open than it should be. Those have never been easy points for conservatives to make, but with the incoherent Occupy Wall Street taking the opposite position the American public might first be more open to a little counterintuitive analysis.
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THE WALL STREET PROTEST
boblonsberry.com ^ | 10/07/11 | bob Lonsberry
Every dog has fleas.
Blood-sucking fleas that crawl on it and mooch off it.
Just like society.
Dogs have fleas and society has Democrats.
Or socialists or anarchists or unionists or environmentalists or whatever you want to call the dregs of humanity having free love on the sidewalks of Wall Street.
It’s been going on for three weeks now and has in recent days built to a fever pitch.
At least among the network reporters.
Who honestly seem sexually aroused by the whole thing.
Each newscast features some vapid, breathless idiot yammering into a camera about corporate greed and the unemployment rate and bank bailouts and how the common people are finally being heard.
The Arab spring comes to America.
And the coffee-klatch communists couldn’t be happier. The leftists who hate this country have convinced themselves they can bring it down. And in this and copy-cat demonstrations across big-city America, they’ve all but burned the flag.
In short, the Obama campaign has begun.
First the banks, then capitalism, then a communist paradise. A world in which unemployed 24-year-old idiots talk about how the rich have robbed them.
Somewhere in hell, Karl Marx is high-fiving everyone he sees.
So let’s shine some light on this.
First of all, there is nothing in the size of this or the message of this that is either new or unusual. This is the Democrat attempt at a tea party, the same collection of rabble that protests the war most weeks in front of the federal building. These are the folks who are sure that if you only go vegan, eliminate your carbon footprint, legalize marijuana, join a union, donate to Obama and curse Sarah Palin that everything will be alright.
These are the same folks who protest economic summits and Republican debates.
Don’t you recognize the body odor?
These are folks who are more apt to have an EBT card than a clue.
They are society’s fleas.
And while most of America laughs at them, the media lionizes them and holds them up as an enlightened and idealistic generation rising to liberate America from commerce and profit. Our stupidest people are depicted on the evening news as being our most astute.
Somehow, people who’ve never produced a damn thing in their lives are empowered to criticize and attack those who have.
It is society biting the hand that feeds it.
Because this much is certain: It is America’s banking and business sectors, operating in a free society and economy, which have made this country great and provided it with its astounding level of prosperity.
Of course, it is that level of prosperity that most disgusts these people. They seem to be fighting for a society of equally debased welfare recipients. A world in which merit is mocked and dependence is encouraged.
Neither banks nor corporations are perfect, but these imperfect tools have lifted America higher than any other nation on earth.
For most working Americans, the boss is a corporation. For most retiring Americans, it is stocks in corporations that provide the growth in a 401k. These corporations which are being cursed and condemned are the bread and butter of American prosperity.
Yes, small businesses comprise 90 percent of America’s businesses. But they employ just 20 percent of America’s workers. In the private sector, it is the corporation that creates the most jobs and employs the most people.
An attack on corporations is an attack on us all. They employ us, they enrich us, they pay taxes. And they produce products and services that are useful and desirable.
And without the capital and lending of banks, we would be subsistence farmers. It is the concentrated power of capital which has allowed for everything from the Erie Canal to the iPhone. Without banks you don’t have a job, you don’t have a house, you don’t have stores to shop in.
Without banks and corporations, you have a Third World economy and periodic famine.
Of course, with most liberal policies – if you implemented the various causes of these demonstrators – you would have a Third World economy and periodic famine.
So let’s call a spade a spade.
These demonstrations are about galvanizing the Democratic base. Poor leaders always strengthen themselves through hate. Hitler had Jews, Jim Crow had blacks, Democrats have corporations, banks and “the rich.” Different degrees, same principle – unite your followers by fomenting and harnessing their hate.
Barack Obama and the Democrats in Congress have failed, to either lead the country or effectively implement their followers principles. Recognizing that without the base they have no chance of retaining power, the Democrat rabble rousers have burned the proverbial Reichstag.
Hate the banks, hate the rich, hate the Republicans.
And vote for Barack.
That’s what these demonstrations are about.
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Video Exposing Occupy Wall Street Organized From Day One by SEIU ACORN Front (Obama)
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-exposing-occupy-wall-street-was-organized-from-day-one-by-seiu-acorn-front-the-working-family-party-and-how-they-all-tie-to-the-obama-administration-dnc-democratic-socialists-of-america
10/07/2011
Breakdown of the Connections Between The Working Family Party, SEIU, ACORN, The New Party, The DNC, Democratic Socialists of America, Tides, George Soros and The Obama Administration
Patrick Gaspard, the current executive director of the DNC, former director of Obama’s Office of Political Affairs, was an organizer for the New Party, the executive vice president of the SEIU Local 1199, political director for Bertha Lewis the former president of ACORN and a co-chair of the Working Families Party.
The New Party’s influential Chicago chapter began to formed in January 1995. Its members consisted mainly of individuals from ACORN, SEIU and the Democratic Socialists of America. Obama attend a New Party function and received their endorsement in 1995.
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Sounds to me like a lot of people are afraid of this movement.
BTW adbusters from Vancouver, Canada proposed the whole idea not SEIU or whatever is proposed here. Sure unions and other groups get in on it, they all want to politicize it.
Whether or not you agree with them this is a valid democratic movement.
Perhaps this will lead to Socialist Democracy!
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No quite fool. These dopers, druggies, degenerates, and dirtbags need to STFU and get a job.
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No quite fool. These dopers, druggies, degenerates, and dirtbags need to STFU and get a job.
I'm sure some of them are bums and dregs looking for something to do. For a lot of them however, this is a valid democratic outcry against what they perceive to be an injustice in our country. Good for them.
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I'm sure some of them are bums and dregs looking for something to do. For a lot of them however, this is a valid democratic outcry against what they perceive to be an injustice in our country. Good for them.
Where were they when the priginal tea party sprung up against the Fed?
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For Jon Stewart: 10 Major Ways OWS Is NOT Like the Tea Party
Vocal Minority ^ | 10/7/11 | EricTheRed
Ya know, sometimes the Daily Show’s Jon Stewart gets it right. In fact, I’ve even commended him on this blog when he does.
This, however, is not one of these times. Wednesday night he wondered out loud why conservatives were criticizing the Occupy Wall Street protests now going on nationwide, arguing:
I don’t get it! Here’s a group of Americans, disenchanted, railing against big government bailouts, angry because they played by the rules, worked hard, now they’re in debt from student loans and they’re unemployed… I mean, look, if this thing turns into throwing trash cans into Starbucks windows, nobody’s going to be down with that. We all love Starbucks.
But these protesters, how are they not like the Tea Party? Alright, some of them, you know, smoke and have pants made out of pot. So call them the THC Party. Aren’t these folks real citizens with real problems? Aren’t they also speaking for America?
I guess an adequate proficiency in criticial thinking skills was not a requirement for Stewart’s position at Comedy Central.
OK, Jon, really? You actually need it explained to you how OWS is not like the Tea Party? Other than at the former they’re smoking lots of weed. Fine …
Of course, I’m not the first one to note the obiously stark contrasts between OWS and TP. Wednesday morning, even before Stewart’s broadcast, my girl Ann (Coulter) wrote:
I am not the first to note the vast differences between the Wall Street protesters and the tea partiers. To name three: The tea partiers have jobs, showers and a point.
No one knows what the Wall Street protesters want—as is typical of mobs. They say they want Obama re-elected, but claim to hate “Wall Street.” You know, the same Wall Street that gave its largest campaign donation in history to Obama, who, in turn, bailed out the banks and made Goldman Sachs the fourth branch of government.
This would be like opposing fattening, processed foods, but cheering Michael Moore—which the protesters also did this week.
But to me, the most striking difference between the tea partiers and the “Occupy Wall Street” crowd—besides the smell of patchouli—is how liberal protesters must claim their every gathering is historic and heroic. …
The modern tea partiers never went around narcissistically comparing themselves to Gen. George Washington. And yet they are the ones who have engaged in the kind of political activity Washington fought for.
The Tea Party name is meant in fun, inspired by an amusing rant from CNBC’s Rick Santelli in February 2009, when he called for another Tea Party in response to Obama’s plan to bail-out irresponsible mortgagers.
The tea partiers didn’t arrogantly claim to be drafting a new Declaration of Independence. They’re perfectly happy with the original.
Tea partiers didn’t block traffic, sleep on sidewalks, wear ski masks, fight with the police or urinate in public. They read the Constitution, made serious policy arguments, and petitioned the government against Obama’s unconstitutional big government policies, especially the stimulus bill and Obamacare.
Then they picked up their own trash and quietly went home. Apparently, a lot of them had to be at work in the morning.
In the two years following the movement’s inception, the Tea Party played a major role in turning Teddy Kennedy’s seat over to a Republican, making the sainted Chris Christie governor of New Jersey, and winning a gargantuan, historic Republican landslide in the 2010 elections. They are probably going to succeed in throwing out a president in next year’s election. …
So, if I may humbly pick up where Coulter left off, here are just a few way that OWS is completely different from the TP:
1. The Tea Party’s key demand is to restore the size and reach of government to that enshrined by the Framers in the Constitution. The Tea Party wants lower taxes, less regulation, less federal spending, and less intervention by the federal government into citizen’s private lives and businesses. To reiterate, the Tea Party’s rule book is the U.S. Constitution; they want to restore America to what it was supposed to be, as prescribed by the Framers. Thus, the Tea Party’s goals are spec ifically and uniquely American.
By stark contrast, the demands of OWS are for more taxes, more regulation, more federal spending (on them, of course), and more government intervention in people’s private lives and businesses (not theirs of course, just those of the eeeeevil rich).
Have you even seen a reference to the Founding Documents at an OWS? Of course not. Then there would be no room to display to Marx and Lenin literature. If you listen to any of the myriad demands of OWS attendees, it is clear they seek a revolution (their words, not mine) and start from scratch based on a Marxist-socialist model. Thus, OWS’s goals are spec ifically and uniquely un-American. They are not, as Jon Stewart ridiculous suggested “speaking for America.”
2. The Tea Party consists predominantly of the nation’s producers, those who own businesses and employ people, older citizens who have worked their entire lives to secure a home and retirement but who are seeing the value of their investments plummet and the financial security of their offspring diminish. They are, as Obama likes to say, “working Americans.” They value success and don’t want to see it punished—by the government or anyone.
On the other hand, The so-called occupants of Wall Street are primarily aging hippies, avowed Marxists and socialists, professional protesters like MoveOn.org and Code Pink, and tattooed, multiple-earringed, rainbow-haired twentysomethings who in all their years of college apparently never learned one single damn thing about how the economy works. They resent success and exist precisely to see it punished.
3. One can safely guess Tea Partiers are mostly members of the 53% who pay some sort of the share of the nation’s income tax burden. From them you’ll hear messages of personal responsibility, hard work, and absolute moral standards that are essential for a prosperous civil society.
On the other hand, despite their martyr-like “99%” moniker, it would be safe to say that OWS participants are part of the 47% of Americans who receive rather than contribute to the income tax burden of the U.S. They are members of your quintessential entitlement generation, having been reared in a liberal-dominated educational system rooted in self-esteem, multiculturalism, and a “whatever feels right is right” code of morality. Their sense of personal responsibility is as developed as the horns growing out of my Jewish head.
4. Whereas the Tea Party was falsely accused of being corporate-funded conservative-media-backed “astroturf,” when it is a legitimely grassroots movement, there’s evidence that OWJ has big-powered and big-moneyed support, including unions and Hollywood useful idiots like Michael Moore and Susan Sarandon.
5. As documented by Brent Bozell and the folks at NewsBusters, the peaceful assemblies known as the Tea Party have been fallaciously depicted by the mainstream media as violent, angry, dangerous, and extremist mobs.
By stark contrast, the actually violent, angry, dangerous, and extremist mobs called OWS have been championed by the MSM as the nation’s most beautiful display of democracy in action. The blatantly biased culprits include the NY Times, CNN, NBC, the NY Times again, NBC again, ABC and the NY Times yet again.
6. The Tea Party was (and still is) relentlessly smeared by the highest officials in the federal government. A prime example is Nancy Pelosi. Keeping his own hands clean, Obama gleefully allowed then-House Majority Speaker to swing mercilessly at them. First, she accused them of being “astroturf” being funded by big-moneyed people. Then, she likened them to Nazis and spun public tales about seeing swastikaaaaahs. She mocked them in March, 2010, as she emerged from the Capitol building upon the passage of the Obama(S)care bill, wielding that huge gavel and cackling like the Wicked Witch of the West as she walked through an understandably angry crowd. She also said the Tea Party’s supposedly violent rhetoric reminded her of the social unrest that occurred in San Francisco in 1978, the year gay mayor Harvey Milk was murdered.
The actually violent, physically threatening OWS? Politico reports:
“God bless them for their spontaneity,” Pelosi told reporters. “It’s young, it’s spontaneous, it’s focused and it’s going to be effective.” Queen Nancy also said, “The focus is on Wall Street and justifiably so,” Pelosi said. “The message of the American people is that no longer … will the recklessness of some on Wall Street cause massive joblessness on Main Street.”
Actually, the focus on Wall Street is not justified, San Fran Nan. Rather, the correct message is that the recklessness of you and your fellow Democrats in Congress and the White House is what has caused massive joblessness on Main Street.” That was the message of the Tea Party, of course, and you have spent the past two years smearing and libeling them.
Veep Joe Biden has also recently smeared the Tea Party as “barbarians at the gate” in the presence of none other than the Community-Organizer-in-Chief himself. That was at the same event where Union thugster Jimmy Hoffa, Jr., said they needed to “take the sons of bitches out” and that those present were Obama’s army that were ‘ready to march,” also to Obama’s approval. So much for that New Civility Obama preached about this January in Tucson.
What about the malcontents at OWS? Yesterday Obama incredibly legitimized them by declaring that they “expresses the frustrations that the American people feel.”
No, that would be the Tea Party, you a-hole. (Oooooo, someone better let AttaaaaackWaaaaatch know I just called the president an a-hole!)
7. As far as I know, no one at a Tea Party has called for the targets being beheaded (compliments of Hollywood actress and “comedienne” Rosanne Barr) or eaten. I don’t believe a Tea Partier has suggested people kill their parents either, as did this clearly frustrated gay guy at OWS. While the Tea Party is accused of violent, hateful rhetoric despite no substantive evidence, the violent rhetoric of OWS is boldly on display.
Hell, even their name contains “occupy,” which is a military term meaning to overtake by means of physical force!
8. As far as I know, no throng of Tea Partiers has blocked traffic or overtaken bridges, nor have they started brawls with police and gotten pepper-sprayed and arrested on masse. This, of course, has been happening nationwide at OWS protests.
9. As far as I know, no Tea Partiers have blamed the Jews for our economic mess or hurled antisemitic slurs at people, such as at least four which have occurred at OWS rallies.
10. As far as I know, none of the lovely ladies of the Tea Party movement have gone topless or in bras to make their points. If, however, you’d like to see young ladies publicly brandishing their bras or bearing their breasts for their cause, please head to your nearest OWS protest [h/t Mike Haltman at the Political Commentator].
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Owners of Zuccotti Park Say Conditions Unsanitary From Wall Street Protests
Fox News ^ | October 07, 2011 | Perry Chiaramonte
Owners of New York City's Zuccotti Park may be starting to get fed up with it being occupied.
Brookfield Office properties, the firm that owns the central location for the Occupy Wall Street protests, has released a statement claiming that they have not been able to properly maintain the park and that sanitation has become a growing concern.
"Because many of the protestors refuse to cooperate by adhering to the [park] rules, the park has not been cleaned since Friday, September 16th, and as a result, sanitary conditions have reached unacceptable levels," said in a written statement by the property management firm.
Brookfield normally cleans and inspects the condition of the park every night which includes a power washing, landscaping, and trash removal. They haven't been able to do so since the protestors have sent up a tent city as part of the protests.
"Basic rules intended to keep the park safe, open, clean, and welcoming to all visitors are clearly posted," the statement from Brookfield reads. "These rules includes bans on the erection of tents or other structures, as well as the placement of tarps, sleeping bags, or other coverings on the property.
"Unfortunately, many of the individuals currently occupying the grounds are ignoring these basic yet necessary requirements, which interferes with the use of the park by others."
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Daily Caller Uncovers ‘Occupy DC’ Organizer Admitting To Paying Protestors (AstroTurf)
Mediatie ^ | 10-7-11 | James Crugnale
While the Occupy Wall Street movement has captured the imagination of genuine activists nationwide, intrepid libertarian reporter Michelle Fields for The Daily Caller uncovered that some protestors were being paid off to attend one of the rallies in Washington DC. “Some of them are volunteers. Some of them aren’t. I can’t identify them. I’m not going to get into an identification game,” admitted an organizer from DC Tenants Advocacy Coalition, a group that advocates for affordable housing.
Fields attended an Occupy DC rally Thursday and spoke to small group of Hispanic protestors who just happened to march right by her. Fields, who is Honduran and a native Spanish speaker, questioned the protesters why they were there, and “some Hispanic protesters holding up English protest signs could not articulate what their signs said.”
“I spoke to them in Spanish because some of them couldn’t speak English,” Fields told Mediaite. “Others felt more comfortable speaking in Spanish.”
It appears that Field’s questioning in Spanish may have spooked the organizer into divulging his actions for the camera.
Now the video has gone viral in the conservative blogosphere and opponents of the Occupy Wall Street movement can point to this as signs of astroturfing among the rabble rousers.
Fields will be on Your World with Neil Cavuto to discuss the video later this afternoon.
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Company that owns Zuccotti "Protester" Park Just got 168 Million Loan Guarantee from Obama DOE!!!!...Thick as Thieves!!!!
Ok Sorry I let the cat out of the bag in the title...but this is huge news that I have seen nowhere else!...
I don't think this has been connected yet....read and enjoy!
Sooo...I ask myself a simple question...how can these protesters be all camped up in this Zuccotti Park right in the middle of downtown Manhattan and nobody is even telling them "Move along"...now the park is in a nice area..hell it's right in the financial district...a very nice area. They are trashing the place, that's coming from the people down there, not my assessment. Now there are usual park rules there...no sleeping on benches...no overnight sleep outs...the typical and mundane rules etc etc. This park also routinely gets cleaned every night, now it hasn't been cleaned since sept 16th...and it's becoming a "sanitary problem"...I'm sure that's no exaggeration with people pissing and god knows what else all night long in the park...so it's no stretch to imagine how cruddy it is by now.
You can read one of the many articles here about that...
[link to gothamist.com]
So apparently since the park is private property and owned by a big multi faceted and multi asset international corporation....oooohhh.. .remember when they were they EVIL!!!! Bad multinational conglomerate!...what are we protesting again Mindy Moonunit?...I forgot...errrp...so anyway...the owner of this property among many others is "Brookfield Office properties"...they are part of Brookfield Asset Management Inc...bigass company worth around 150 billion or more...
So Mayor Bloomberg says there's nothing really he can do until BPO decides the protesters ought to be evicted and they were nice enough to issue this public statement saying they weren't going to do that....awww...see how nice?...Well I would guess that if Mr Liberal Mike Bloomberg felt like asking them he probably could....
BECAUSE HIS LONG TIME LIVE-IN GIRLFRIEND IS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS!!!..
Yes that's correct...NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg's long time lady Diana L. Taylor is on the board of directors for Brookfeild Properties...
Here she is here:
[link to www.brookfieldofficeprop erties.com]
and here..
[link to topics.nytimes.com]
Now this seems to be fairly common knowledge to some in NYC, but it certainly is NOT being reported in the news at all...So the Mayor who claims his hands are tied?...maybe not so tied since his woman is on the board of the property owners...
So what else is this Brookfield outfit up to?....
Well we got the namesake...John E. Zuccotti he's on the board of BPO...so who is he?...well Mr Zuccotti was on the Board of directors of WELL POINT HEALTH NETWORK...for years...remember them?...they were THE most Evil health insurance company just yanking the po sheeples benefits away that only Obamacare could save us! from...in fact Obama went for the throat in rhetoric on them...I find that highly ironic that the protestanistas are camped out in a park named after a board member of one of the most demonized and the largest and most evil health insurer in the country...lol...what we potestin again Mandy?....lol.....dumfuks...
You can read about him here:
[link to people.forbes.com]
Ok so more ironic than sinister...so what else is Brookfield up to...
Well BPO...that's just the property division who might they donate money too?...they are a multi billion division...so they probably give some good bucks out...well not so much, not publicly anyway...they did however hire a lobbyist firm for a couple years several years back, paid them a couple hundred grand over 2 years...in fact was there largest client in their first year.
Little start up lobbyist outfit named....
Oldaker, Biden & Belair
Nahhhh...ya think?....oh yes you thought right...that is the Biden name of VP Joe Biden fame and that Biden is his son..Robert Hunter Biden...
Can check that below and I won't even bother getting into how Hunter was on the board of Amtrak while Joe "Mr Amtrak" Biden was pouring money into that sucking vortex of money waste.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.opensecrets.org]
[link to www.opensecrets.org]
So....so far we got the Mayors defacto wife on the board of directors and some old payments to the Vice Presidents son's lobbying firm...there must be more..this huge corporation is just coming off as far too nice....even with the Mayors wife on the Board...the Bloombergs are only luke warm with the Obama's anyway...and I'm sure they don't like the protesters stinkin up some one the nicest areas downtown...so there has to be more pull somewhere...
Well there probably is....and it's a bit higher up the food chain...
One of the big divisions of Brookfield Asset Management inc is...
Brookfield renewable power...and guess who's govt has an ASSLOAD of Green energy money...stimulus money...federal loan guarantees and all that money moving right to the very same property owning multinational conglomerate that owns that dinky little park....OUR FUCKING GOVT...
Here's just a few and I'm sure we could find a TON more if we wanted to look a little deeper.
Peanut mil or 3 grant to make a turbine that will harm less fish for hydro electric plants being tested at Brookfield Renewable Power School Street Project in Cohoes, New York
[link to www.lloydgcarter.com]
Local49 is happy about this stimulus funded hydro-electro plant in Minnesota..price tag to the stimuloss package unknown.
[link to www.local49.org]
Brookfield Renewable Power
This company traces its history back to a Brazilian electric utility incorporated in 1899; today, it's headquartered in West Virginia and manages renewable energy projects in the U.S., Brazil and Canada, including 167 hydroelectric stations and two wind farms. A publicly traded company, Brookfield maintains stable revenues thanks to long-term power contracts, and uses this advantage to help pioneer next-generation projects in wind and thermal energy. Besides specializing in renewable energy, the company has also donated nearly $4 million to local sustainability projects. Brookfield also voluntarily meets the low-impact standards put forward by the Ecologo Program and the Low Impact Hydropower Institute.
Brookfield is currently working on a wind energy project in Coos County, New Hampshire, financed in part with the Department of Energy’s partial guarantee of $135.8 million in loans. The Department of Energy says the project will result in 198 construction jobs and and save some 12,000 tons of carbon pollution once it is up and running.
Wow 198 temporary jobs?...that's less than a million a pop, pretty good by govt standards!..
[link to www.good.is]
Hmmmm...this is odd....they have almost half of their 168 power generating stations in.....New York....
[link to www.brookfield.com]
Massive move being made here....huge bet on "Green Energy"
Brookfield to merge hydro power assets into global renewable energy powerhouse September 13, 2011
Brookfield Asset Management is looking to merge its hydroelectric and wind power assets into the world's second-largest public renewable power company in a move designed to cash in on the growing demand for cleaner power.
The conglomerate said Tuesday it plans to combine Brookfield Renewable Power Fund's (TSX:BRC.UN) hydroelectric stations and wind farms with those of its wholly owned subsidiary Brookfield Renewable Power Inc.
The merger would create Brookfield Renewable Energy Partners LP — or BREP — a global, publicly traded partnership focused on renewable power, primarily hydroelectric, in Canada, the United States and Brazil with assets of about US$13 billion.
[link to www.canadianbusiness.com]
whoops...price of poker went up another 30 million...
A NH Solyndra? Wind farm gets fed loan
In the name of “green energy,” the Obama administration is using taxpayer money to subsidize a New Hampshire wind farm that is a subsidiary of a hugely profitable company.
New Hampshire’s largest wind farm, the Granite Reliable Power project under construction in Coos County, is jointly owned by BAIF Granite Holdings, LLC and Freshnet Wind Energy, LLC. BAIF owns 75 percent of Granite Reliable. BAIF Granite Holdings was created earlier this year by Brookfield Renewable Power, which is a subsidiary of Brookfield Asset Management of New York.
That company, which runs clean energy operations around the world, has deep pockets. It reported net income of $454 million in 2009 and $3.2 billion in 2010. Brookfield Renewable Power financed the creation of BAIF Granite Holdings from its Brookfield Americas Infrastructure fund, which was reported in February to have $2.7 billion in assets. With that kind of backing, it is curious that the U.S. Department of Energy announced it would guarantee up to 80 percent of a $168.9 million loan for the Granite Reliable wind farm project last week.
[link to www.unionleader.com]
Department of Energy Finalizes Loan Guarantee of Nearly $170 Million to Granite Reliable Power
September 23, 2011 - 3:31pm
Washington, D.C. – U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu announced today the Department of Energy finalized a partial guarantee for $168.9 million loan to Granite Reliable Power, LLC. The loan guarantee will support a 99 megawatt (MW) wind generation project that will be New Hampshire’s largest wind farm.
[link to energy.gov]
Well now...454 Million net income in the 2009 and 3.2 billion in 2010....that's quite a rise in profits...
Now.....why would a huge and very rich company that had 3.2 Billion dollars in profits in 2010 need or be able to get a Loan guarantee for 168 million...which the Dept Of Energy announced finalizing on....Sept 23rd 2011....not long after the OWS protests started really getting going...a 168 million dollar loan guarantee with no visible reason why behind it....to the very same corporation that owns the very same Zuccotti park the protesters are camped out in....
Maybe they ought to form a circular protesting squad....
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FUCKING WOW! ! ! ! ! !
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BUMP - I freaking knew it from day one! ! ! !
Fuck you to those fools who doubt me.
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Good work by this guy.
Can't wait for the dupes to explain this.
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'some' people now makes it astroturf? hahaha this started as a legit democratic movement. If some interest groups have jumped on the bandwagon it is no different than what happened to the tea party and it's billionaire koch sponsors.
It does not distort the strong message they are sending. That message is clear - the current system does not work.
Bring on the socialist democracy!
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Stinking up Wall Street one demonstrator defecating on a POLICE CAR (gross pictures)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046586/Occupy-Wall-Street-protesters-accused-turning-New-York-public-toilet-shocking-pictures-demonstrator-defecating-POLICE-CAR.html ^ | 10/07/2011
Posted on October 7, 2011 8:43:55 PM EDT by Beckett08
This are the shocking scenes that have led some people to accuse the Occupy Wall Street protesters living rough in New York's financial district of creating unsanitary and filthy conditions.
Exclusive pictures obtained by Mail Online show one demonstrator relieving himself on a police car.
Elsewhere we found piles of stinking refuse clogging Zucotti Park, despite the best efforts of many of the protestors to keep the area clean.
The shocking images demonstrate the extent to which conditions have deteriorated as demonstrations in downtown Manhattan enter their fourth week.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York; Click to Add Topic
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This is Democracy in action!
This is wonderful!
Everyone should join!
The Tea Party racists are the extremists!
Don't you remember all of those well behaved, employed, adults defecating on cop cars? ::)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046586/Occupy-Wall-Street-protesters-accused-turning-New-York-public-toilet-shocking-pictures-demonstrator-defecating-POLICE-CAR.html
LMFAO!!!!
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046586/Occupy-Wall-Street-protesters-accused-turning-New-York-public-toilet-shocking-pictures-demonstrator-defecating-POLICE-CAR.html
LMFAO!!!!
Cool pics. Thanks for posting.
I'm in China and don't get to watch too much TV. Nice to see how things are going.
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For Some, Wall Street Is Main Street (Occupy Wall Street Begins to Chafe Its Neighbors)
NY Times ^ | 10/07/11 | CARA BUCKLEY
Posted on October 8, 2011 8:59:54 AM EDT by Libloather
For Some, Wall Street Is Main Street
By CARA BUCKLEY
Published: October 7, 2011
**SNIP**
Ms. Tzortzatos’s tolerance for the newcomers finally vanished when the sink was broken and fell to the floor. She installed a $200 lock on the bathroom to thwart nonpaying customers, angering the protesters.
“I’m looked at as the enemy of the people,” she said.
**SNIP**
In a widely distributed pamphlet, “Welcome to Liberty Plaza: Home of Occupy Wall Street,” participants were instructed where to find relief. “After you’ve dined,” it reads, “feel free to refresh yourself in the restrooms of neighboring businesses like Burger King and McDonald’s without feeling obligated to buy anything.”
A manager of the Burger King in question said he had no trouble with the protesters, though a maintenance worker at the McDonald’s, Deon Cook, said that in recent days he had been forced to clean the bathroom every five minutes.
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Freaking pigs.
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;D
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American Autumn
The zombie youth “occupying” Wall Street are contemptuous of the world that sustains their comforts.
Michael Oher, offensive lineman for the Baltimore Ravens, was online on Wednesday night when his Twitter feed started filling up with tributes to Steve Jobs. A bewildered Oher tweeted: “Can somebody help me out? Who was Steve Jobs!”
He was on his iPhone at the time.
Who was Steve Jobs? Well, he was a guy who founded a corporation and spent his life as a corporate executive manufacturing corporate products. So he wouldn’t have endeared himself to the “Occupy Wall Street” crowd, even though, underneath the patchouli and lentils, most of them are abundantly accessorized with iPhones and iPads and iPods loaded with iTunes, if only for when the drum circle goes for a bathroom break.
The above is a somewhat obvious point, although the fact that it’s not obvious even to protesters with an industrial-strength lack of self-awareness is a big part of the problem. But it goes beyond that: If you don’t like to think of Jobs as a corporate exec (and a famously demanding one at that), think of him as a guy who went to work, and worked hard. There’s no appetite for that among those “occupying” Zuccotti Park. In the old days, the tribunes of the masses demanded an honest wage for honest work. Today, the tribunes of America’s leisured varsity class demand a world that puts “people before profits.” If the specifics of their “program” are somewhat contradictory, the general vibe is consistent: They wish to enjoy an advanced Western lifestyle without earning an advanced Western living. The pampered, elderly children of a fin de civilisation overdeveloped world, they appear to regard life as an unending vacation whose bill never comes due.
So they are in favor of open borders, presumably so that exotic Third World peasants can perform the labor to which they are noticeably averse. Of the 13 items on that “proposed list of demands,” Demand Four calls for “free college education,” and Demand Eleven returns to the theme, demanding debt forgiveness for all existing student loans. I yield to no one in my general antipathy to the racket that is American college education, but it’s difficult to see why this is the fault of the mustache-twirling robber barons who head up Global MegaCorp, Inc. One sympathizes, of course. It can’t be easy finding yourself saddled with a six-figure debt and nothing to show for it but some watery bromides from the “Transgender and Colonialism” class. Americans collectively have north of a trillion dollars in personal college debt. Say what you like about Enron and, er, Solyndra and all those other evil corporations, but they didn’t relieve you of a quarter-mil in exchange for a master’s in Maya Angelou. So why not try occupying the dean’s office at Shakedown U?
Ah, but the great advantage of mass moronization is that it leaves you too dumb to figure out who to be mad at. At Liberty Square, one of the signs reads: “F**k your unpaid internship!” Fair enough. But, to a casual observer of the massed ranks of Big Sloth, it’s not entirely clear what precisely anyone would ever pay them to do.
Do you remember Van Jones? He was Obama’s “green jobs” czar back before “green jobs” had been exposed as a gazillion-dollar sinkhole for sluicing taxpayer monies to the president’s corporate cronies. Oh, don’t worry. These cronies aren’t “corporate” in the sense of Steve Jobs. The corporations they run put “people before profits”: That’s to say, they’ve figured out it’s easier to take government money from you people than create a business that makes a profit. In an amusing inversion of the Russian model, Van Jones became a czar after he’d been a Communist. He became a Commie in the mid-Nineties — i.e., after even the Soviet Union had given up on it. Needless to say, a man who never saw a cobwebbed collectivist nostrum he didn’t like no matter how long past its sell-by date is hot for “Occupy Wall Street.” Indeed, Van Jones thinks that the protests are the start of an “American Autumn.”
In case you don’t get it, that’s the American version of the “Arab Spring.” Steve Jobs might have advised Van Jones he has a branding problem. Spring is the season of new life, young buds and so forth. Autumn is leaves turning brown and fluttering to the ground in a big dead heap. Even in my great state of New Hampshire, where autumn is pretty darn impressive, we understand what that blaze of red and orange leaves means: They burn brightest before they fall and die, and the world turns chill and bare and hard.
So Van Jones may be on to something! American Autumn. The days dwindle down to a precious few, like in whatever that old book was called, The Summer and Fall of the Roman Empire.
If you’ll forgive a plug for my latest sell-out to my corporate masters, in my new book I quote H. G. Wells’s Victorian Time Traveler after encountering far in the future the soft, effete Eloi: “These people were clothed in pleasant fabrics that must at times need renewal, and their sandals, though undecorated, were fairly complex specimens of metalwork. Somehow such things must be made.” And yet he saw “no workshops” or sign of any industry at all. “They spent all their time in playing gently, in bathing in the river, in making love in a half-playful fashion, in eating fruit and sleeping. I could not see how things were kept going.” The Time Traveler might have felt much the same upon landing in Liberty Square in the early 21st century, except for the bit about bathing: It’s increasingly hard in America to “see how things are kept going,” but it’s pretty clear that the members of “Occupy Wall Street” have no plans to contribute to keeping things going. Like Michael Oher using his iPhone to announce his ignorance of Steve Jobs, in the autumn of the republic the beneficiaries of American innovation seem not only utterly disconnected from but actively contemptuous of the world that sustains their comforts.
Why did Steve Jobs do so much of his innovating in computers? Well, obviously, because that’s what got his juices going. But it’s also the case that, because it was a virtually non-existent industry until he came along, it’s about the one area of American life that hasn’t been regulated into sclerosis by the statist behemoth. So Apple and other companies were free to be as corporate as they wanted, and we’re the better off for it. The stunted, inarticulate spawn of America’s educrat monopoly want a world of fewer corporations and lots more government. If their “demands” for a $20 minimum wage and a trillion dollars of spending in “ecological restoration” and all the rest are ever met, there will be a massive expansion of state monopoly power. Would you like to get your iPhone from the DMV? That’s your “American Autumn”: an America that constrains the next Steve Jobs but bigs up Van Jones. Underneath the familiar props of radical chic that hasn’t been either radical or chic in half a century, the zombie youth of the Big Sloth movement are a paradox too ludicrous even for the malign alumni of a desultory half-decade of Complacency Studies: They’re anarchists for Big Government. Do it for the children, the Democrats like to say. They’re the children we did it for, and, if this is the best they can do, they’re done for.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/279534/american-autumn-mark-steyn?page=1
Steyn hits the nail on the head.
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Check out this video on YouTube:
Lmfao! What the he'll is that?
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post_now/post/air-and-space-museum-closes-after-guards-clash-with-protesters/2011/10/08/gIQAx0x2VL_blog.html?hpid=z2
LMFAO! What pieces of garbage.
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Unions are just as responsible as Wall St. They've done a tremendous job running the manufacturing jobs out of the country and now their only solution is to demand more free shit.
Yes but why do you defend Wall Street then?
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US protesters clash with guards at Washington museum
yahoo ^ | 10/8/2011 | afp
Protesters clashed with security staff when they tried to enter a museum in the US capital Saturday, prompting one guard to use pepper spray and leading to at least one arrest, a spokeswoman said.
The incident occurred at The Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum around 3.15 pm (1915 GMT), but it was not immediately clear if the demonstrators were affiliated with the Occupy DC protest group that sprung up earlier this week as a spin-off of the larger Occupy Wall Street movement in New York.
"Protestors tried to push through the doors into the building and when they were told they couldn't bring the banners they were carrying inside one security officer used pepper spray," said Smithsonian spokeswoman Linda St. Thomas.
"There were a couple of hundred protestors in the area at the time and Washington police were called. There was one arrest that I know of," she added, noting that the museum closed its doors two hours early because of the clash.
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Are the protestors in your head deeper than Obama now?
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Are the protestors in your head deeper than Obama now?
Thwy are no different IMHO
Same bullshit coming from useful idiots and economic illiterates with no clue as to how economics or society functions.
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Thwy are no different IMHO
Same bullshit coming from useful idiots and economic illiterates with no clue as to how economics or society functions.
So you love Wall Street but hate Obama? I thought you said Obama was in deep with WSTreet
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So you love Wall Street but hate Obama? I thought you said Obama was in deep with WSTreet
I am for reforming Wall Street so that taxpayer is not on the hook for their scams.
The biggest gripe of these tools is that they were not bailed out themselves.
We need a healthy Wall Street, not a blown up wall street.
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OMFFFFFFGGG,
A College Professor (they usually make around 80-90 grand-200 grand a year) who decided to buy a bunch of houses (all fun and games when loan money was being given out like Candy) in order to make EVEN MORE money. Poor baby, your NEW car is now worth less too. AWWWWW. Why are these people marching against "Greed"? ??? Now baby is worried about foreclosure for the third time and then blames the banks. He still has his job even and then caps it off bitching about HIS credit card debt. ::)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lspps0JClr1r25y9yo1_500.jpg)
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OMFFFFFFGGG,
A College Professor (they usually make around 80-90 grand-200 grand a year) who decided to buy a bunch of houses (all fun and games when loan money was being given out like Candy) in order to make EVEN MORE money. Poor baby, your NEW car is now worth less too. AWWWWW. Why are these people marching against "Greed"? ??? Now baby is worried about foreclosure for the third time and then blames the banks. He still has his job even and then caps it off bitching about HIS credit card debt. ::)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lspps0JClr1r25y9yo1_500.jpg)
These have to be con jobs. come on.
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Wall St. protesters to 'occupy' Washington Sq., cops ready for clash
NY Post ^ | 10/08/2011
The anti-greed protesters plan to invade Washington Square Park today, putting them toe-to-toe with cops ready to enforce a curfew.
Occupy Wall Street organizers told The Post they'll set up a second outpost there, in addition to Zuccotti Park, where protests started Sept. 16.
“We are just expanding,” said group spokesman Patrick Bruner, adding there were no immediate plans of testing a 1 a.m. curfew.
But another organizer, Justine Tunney, 26, was more blunt.
“We plan to stay in Washington Square Park and form a second permanent occupation,” she said. 'Occupy Wall Street' protestors are moving to Washington Square Park -- and some are vowing to defy police orders and sleep there.
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Don't remember Tea Party people acting like these communist pieces of garbage.
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Occupy Wall Street costing taxpayers $2 million in police overtime – and counting – NYPD says
New York Daily News ^ | Oct 7, 2011 | Rocco Parascandola, Reuven Blau, Helen Kennedy
Posted on October 9, 2011 8:16:24 AM EDT by ETL
The NYPD said Thursday that three weeks of anti-Wall Street demonstrations have cost the city $2 million in police overtime and defended the use of pepper spray and batons to control rowdy crowds.
"I think the vast majority of people who protest were peaceful," said Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly.
"But there's clearly a core group of self-styled anarchists - that's what they call themselves - who want to have a confrontation with police."
OCCUPY WALL STREET: SCENES OF PROTEST
He said that following Wednesday's 10,000-strong union march, a much smaller group tried to storm police barricades at Wall Street and Broadway.
"They locked their arms. They counted down - 10, 9, 8, 7, 6. Then they decided to charge the police. That is going to be met with some physical force," Kelly said.
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National Air and Space Museum museum closed after protest; pepper spray used
By Associated Press
Sunday, October 9, 2011 - Updated 49 minutes ago
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WASHINGTON — The National Air and Space Museum in Washington was closed Saturday after anti-war demonstrators swarmed the building to protest a drone exhibit and security guards used pepper spray to repel them, sickening a number of protesters.
Smithsonian spokesman John Gibbons said a large group of demonstrators, estimated at 100 to 200 people, arrived at about 3 p.m. and tried to enter the National Mall museum. When a security guard stopped group members from entering, saying they could not bring in signs, he was apparently held by demonstrators, Gibbons said. A second guard who arrived used pepper spray on at least one person and the crowd dispersed, he added.
A number of groups have been demonstrating in the city in the past week. The group that arrived at the museum Saturday included individuals taking part in the October 2011 Stop the Machine demonstration in the city’s Freedom Plaza, which has an anti-war and anti-corporate greed message. The group also included protesters affiliated with Occupy D.C., a group modeled on the Occupy Wall Street protests in New York City. Occupy D.C. has been holding marches and meetings in Washington’s McPherson Square.
David Swanson, 41, of Charlottesville, Va., said he was among dozens of people sickened by the pepper spray. He said he got sick even though he was outside the building when the spraying began.
"I began choking and vomiting and got a headache," Swanson said.
Swanson, who says he has been part of the Freedom Plaza protest, says protesters were not looking to shut down the museum but to make a point about the massive military spending and the use of deadly drones. He said the security officers got aggressive after some protesters unfurled a protest banner inside.
He posted videos on his blog, warisacrime.org, that shows a security officer yelling "Get back" as pepper spray is apparently used. Several people fell to the ground outside in agony as others coughed, rubbed their eyes and fled the building.
Pete Piringer, a D.C. fire department spokesman, told The Associated Press on Saturday evening that medics treated or evaluated a dozen people at the scene but that no one was seriously hurt by the pepper spray.
Legba Carrefour, who is working with Occupy D.C., said a number of individuals joined the march to the museum following an afternoon meeting of the group.
Ann Wilcox, a lawyer working with Stop the Machine, said a 19-year-old woman from Madison, Wis., was arrested by police. She paid a fine and was released later Saturday. Wilcox said the protesters went to the Air and Space museum to demonstrate against a drone exhibit.
The museum has an exhibit, "Military Unmanned Aerial Vehicles," that covers the history of unmanned aircraft and their current use as offensive weapons. Drones are often called the weapon of choice of the Obama administration, which quadrupled drone strikes against al-Qaida targets in Pakistan’s lawless tribal areas, up from less than 50 under the Bush administration to more than 220 in the past three years.
The museum is expected to re-open Sunday.
Disgraceful.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post_now/post/air-and-space-museum-closes-after-guards-clash-with-protesters/2011/10/08/gIQAx0x2VL_blog.html?hpid=z2
LMFAO! What pieces of garbage.
I wish Obama would send a Predator Drone over all of them.
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I wish Obama would send a Predator Drone over all of them.
Obama, Pelosi, et al are behind these fools TA.
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Michael Bloomberg: Occupy Wall Street is trying to destroy jobs (Just Lazy Communist Slugs)
guardian UK ^ | 10/9/2011 | staff
The New York mayor, Michael Bloomberg, has accused the Occupy Wall Street protesters of trying to destroy jobs in the city.
In his weekly radio show, Bloomberg said the protests against the city's financial services were "not productive" given the importance of the sector to the local economy.
"What they're trying to do is take the jobs away from people working in this city," he said.
"If the jobs they are trying to get rid of in this city – the people that work in finance, which is a big part of our economy – go away, we're not going to have any money to pay our municipal employees or clean our parks or anything else."
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Protesters prepare to dig in for winter (Global warming to the rescue?)
Newsday ^ | 10/08/11 | EMILY NGO
By EMILY NGO. Special to Newsday
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The cold is coming -- and they know it.
As the Occupy Wall Street protesters head into their fourth week, the camp is preparing to dig in for the long haul. Saturday, thoughts were turning to basic human needs and ways to plan and strategize for the challenges ahead.
At Saturday's 9 a.m. coordination meeting, representatives on the numerous task forces dealt with the need for more donations of sleeping bags, ground pads and shoes. Right now there's an oversupply of socks, T-shirts and thermal blankets.
"The cold is definitely a concern for all of us," Olivia Nole-Malpezzi, 18, of Rochester said later. "We definitely need to prepare for the winter, mentally and physically. Donations are everything to us."
The challenges aren't deterring one Long Island protester.
"It's important," said Roy Sharkey, 51, of St. James. "I want this to be effective and result in some kind of change. I want to make a statement that's loud and clear and right, for my children," said the father of two, a carpenter and part-time musician now on disability.
Also discussed at the coordination meeting were compost, recycling, funding, and expanding the kitchen area to accommodate food donations.
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LMFAO! Sleep away camp for hippies?
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I'm disappointed..when I saw the title of this thread I thought you were looking in the mirror
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http://www.mnn.com/lifestyle/responsible-living/blogs/occupy-wall-street-embraces-environmentalists
Freak show.
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What the fuck man???? What the fuck!!!???? Someone needs to demand that all these jerks be arrested. Stop trashing the parks and stop trashing the streets. What kind of a fucking society do we live in where we tolerate this kind of crap??? Get these piles of shit off the street. 33, if this is the district you are living in, I hope you are on the phone trying to get the cops and politicians to get these sewer dwellars off the street.
Hey undecided indenpendents, do you really want to vote for a party and a president who caters to people who defecate in public on cop cars??????? Or are you going to keep denigrating the tea party, who keep EVERYTHING clean???
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047168/Occupy-Wall-Street-Its-just-politics--Sex-drugs-love-brigade-hijack-Wall-Street-protest.html#
Ha ha a!!!
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Steve Jobs: Capitalist
By Michael Graham | Monday, October 10, 2011 | http://www.bostonherald.com | Op-Ed
“We are the 99 percent that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1 percent.”
— Occupy Wall Street Web site.
In the struggle between “Occupation” and “Jobs,” I’m firmly on the side of “Jobs.” Steve Jobs.
God’s sense of irony was on full display last week when the death of the world’s most famous college dropout pushed America’s ungrateful grads off the front page. And the best part?
Nearly every one of those BU boneheads and Northeastern nutjobs owns an iPhone.
By any measure Steve Jobs was part of the evil, greedy “1 percent” the Occupods are protesting. You hate “rich corporations?” Apple is literally the most valuable company in the world, worth around $400 billion.
Do you agree with the Occupy Boston protester denouncing millionaires for “using their wealth to undermine the democratic process?” Well, Steve Jobs was worth about $8 billion when he died.
And if you despise those cut-throat capitalists who crack the whip over their helpless employees, you absolutely hated Steve Jobs.
“Mr. Jobs also leaves behind innumerable tales about his mercurial management style,” The Wall Street Journal wrote in his obit, “such as his habit of calling employees or their ideas ‘dumb’ when he didn’t like something.” When Jobs returned to Apple in the late ‘90s, he fired four of the company’s five senior executives and replaced them with his team.
If the Occupation had an FBI, Steve Jobs would be Public Enemy #1.
The same morning we learned of Jobs’ death, I heard a poli-sci major tell a reporter that “College . . . is supposed to guarantee entry into the middle class.” That was his word: “guarantee.”
Here’s a kid at an elite university living a better lifestyle than 90 percent of the people on the planet looking for his “guarantee” of future happiness.
Compare this “scholar” with Jobs in 1974. Forget some elite Northeast university, he couldn’t afford Reed College in Oregon. He was so broke that sometimes he had to sleep on the floor of a friend’s dorm room. His first “big-time” computer job was working in a friend’s garage.
No college, no diploma, no money and absolutely no “guarantees.” Can you imagine taking one of today’s “precious snowflake” protesters and sending them back to the 1970s to face that? We’d have to send a bag of Depends along, too.
Another NU student, whining about her “$125,000 in student loans,” complained that “students don’t have lobbyists.” (They also don’t have to sign $125,000 worth of loan applications, either.)
Well, you know who else didn’t have a lobbyist? Steve Jobs, or Bill Gates, or Herman Cain, or Flickr founder Caterina Flake, or Oprah or — probably — these kids’ moms and dads. So should these people have dropped their keyboards, picked up their cardboard and marched their “Eat The Rich” signs to the nearest bank?
Think of how bleak America would be if the young Jobs and Gates and Oprahs had followed the example of the Occupiers, if they had put “complaining” ahead of “accomplishing.” If they had believed that collective effort was more important than individual success.
Steve Jobs had to collect bottles for money and walked seven miles to the Hare Krishna temple for a meal. Then he revolutionized the computer industry. Then he got fired by his own company. So he revolutionized the world again.
Steve Jobs’ success came because he was willing to work, to risk and to revolutionize, all with no “guarantees.”
The Occupiers are failures because they aren’t willing to even try unless someone promises them first that they’re going to win.
Which is why Steve Jobs’ “1 percent” will always be bigger than their “99.”
Michael Graham hosts an afternoon drive-time talk show on 96.9 WTKK.
Article URL: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1372204
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How come you all love Wall Street all of a sudden?
I guess you support Obama too then
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How come you all love Wall Street all of a sudden?
I guess you support Obama too then
These idiots are not protesting Wall Street. In actuality, these morons are protesting themselves if you really think about it.
The govt is doing everything these morons want, but are too moronic to see that the horrendous results of the policies they advocate are a frigging disaster.
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Yeah but thats true for the Tea Party as well
So again why the love for Wall Street? You think the give a shit about you?
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Yeah but thats true for the Tea Party as well
So again why the love for Wall Street? You think the give a shit about you?
::) ::)
I oppose the bailouts and TARP, TALF, etc.
and the Tea party?
GMAFB - name one policy of the tea party that makes things worse.
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The Tea Party is doing exactly what the repub want
The Tea Party startet shortly after Obama where were they during Bush? you see same shit
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Company that Owns Zuccotti Park Received Green Loan Guarantee from Obama Admin
The Lonely Conservative ^ | October 9, 2011 | Lonely Conservative
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It’s been a bit of a puzzle as to why the owners of Zuccotti Park that the Occupy Wall Street gang has taken over have allowed them to stay. They’re angering residents and pretty much stinking up the place. The owners have mentioned that the park is normally cleaned every night, but they have not been able to clean it in three weeks. Sanitation was “becoming an issue” a few days ago. Lord knows what it’s like now, I hear it’s pretty bad.
Could the fact that the parent company of Brookfield Properties received a “green energy” loan guarantee from the Obama administration for a New Hampshire wind farm have anything to do with it?
In the name of “green energy,” the Obama administration is using taxpayer money to subsidize a New Hampshire wind farm that is a subsidiary of a hugely profitable company.
New Hampshire’s largest wind farm, the Granite Reliable Power project under construction in Coos County, is jointly owned by BAIF Granite Holdings, LLC and Freshnet Wind Energy, LLC. BAIF owns 75 percent of Granite Reliable. BAIF Granite Holdings was created earlier this year by Brookfield Renewable Power, which is a subsidiary of Brookfield Asset Management of New York.
That company, which runs clean energy operations around the world, has deep pockets. It reported net income of $454 million in 2009 and $3.2 billion in 2010. Brookfield Renewable Power financed the creation of BAIF Granite Holdings from its Brookfield Americas Infrastructure fund, which was reported in February to have $2.7 billion in assets. With that kind of backing, it is curious that the U.S. Department of Energy announced it would guarantee up to 80 percent of a $168.9 million loan for the Granite Reliable wind farm project last week...
Isn’t it curious that such a prosperous company would need loan guarantees from a bankrupt government? I guess not, when you realize that Joe Biden’s son is a partner in the lobbying firm Brookfield employed.
There’s much more to the story. Mayor Michael Bloomberg said it would be up to the property owners to evict the filth from the park. His girlfriend is on the company’s board of directors, so perhaps he could have a word with her.
Something stinks, and it isn’t just the unwashed protesters
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I am seriously starting to come around to the anti protesters side now. The movement has been taken over by morons. There was a chance to direct this in a positive way but it's hopeless now.
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I am seriously starting to come around to the anti protesters side now. The movement has been taken over by morons. There was a chance to direct this in a positive way but it's hopeless now.
They are not protesting Wall Street - they are protesting to be relieved of their own bad choices in life and looking for their own bailout.
Bailing out wall street was the wrong thing to do, but you dont right one wrong, by doubling down again.
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They are not protesting Wall Street - they are protesting to be relieved of their own bad choices in life and looking for their own bailout.
Bailing out wall street was the wrong thing to do, but you dont right one wrong, by doubling down again.
I agree with you but with all due respect this has go both ways and your support of Cain and others for example flies in the face of this. You're not the only one, many people do this but some of things coming out of these protesters mouths is absolutely frightening. I can't believe some of them actually think the way they do.
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I agree with you but with all due respect this has go both ways and your support of Cain and others for example flies in the face of this. You're not the only one, many people do this but some of things coming out of these protesters mouths is absolutely frightening. I can't believe some of them actually think the way they do.
I'm still voting for Ron Paul in the primary barring some other situation where my vote can keep mitt out or something like that
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Well I have to say its getting pretty stupid now.
This is what happens when you start something like this without a clear precise agenda or message.
Unfortunately, as i thought it would, it got severely attacked with negative press and to make matter worse too many retards joined in.
The bottom line is, our system if fucked up right now and something needs to be done I support it in that regard. But i do not support what's turned in to what looks like a dirty hippie sit in.
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I don't really like Adam but he exposes this guys stupidity very clearly. wow
4:45
"Property rights require a militarized force to keep the property in the hands of the property owner. Without an army or police force factories would not end up in the hands of the capitalists."
"we should be printing unGodly amounts of money"
wtf?
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Yeah there are some economists, i forget who, who think we needed to double and triple what did as far as stimulus to get us out of this mess. lol
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I don't really like Adam but he exposes this guys stupidity very clearly. wow
4:45
"Property rights require a militarized force to keep the property in the hands of the property owner. Without an army or police force factories would not end up in the hands of the capitalists."
"we should be printing unGodly amounts of money"
wtf?
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You are aware that Ron Poop Paul supports these Wall Street Protesters and that A LOT of these Protesters are voting for Ron Poop and they are Poop Supporters.
You were even on board with the Protests at first as many Ron Pooptards, like yourself, still remain loyal to the cause.
333386, you know better than these scum, don`t waste your vote in the Primary.
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I don't really like Adam but he exposes this guys stupidity very clearly. wow
4:45
"Property rights require a militarized force to keep the property in the hands of the property owner. Without an army or police force factories would not end up in the hands of the capitalists."
"we should be printing unGodly amounts of money"
wtf?
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Furthermore, you and the fucking incomprehensible stupid POOPTARDS continue to Bitch about the Predator Drone attacks that Obama has been HIGHLY successful with. That was the whole idea of protesting the National Air And Space Museum. POOPTARDS were there! POOPTARDS.
Look Pooptard, if you want to kowtow to terrorism thats fine.
To 3333386, again, you are smarter than this and know not to give an inch to these Muslim scum. Poop Paul would be the Weakest Commander-In-Chief in American History.
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I don't really like Adam but he exposes this guys stupidity very clearly. wow
4:45
"Property rights require a militarized force to keep the property in the hands of the property owner. Without an army or police force factories would not end up in the hands of the capitalists."
"we should be printing unGodly amounts of money"
wtf?
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Oh lord! Imagine the parents of these goof balls seeing their spawn on camera like this? Geez!
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Furthermore, you and the fucking incomprehensible stupid POOPTARDS continue to Bitch about the Predator Drone attacks that Obama has been HIGHLY successful with. That was the whole idea of protesting the National Air And Space Museum. POOPTARDS were there! POOPTARDS.
Look Pooptard, if you want to kowtow to terrorism thats fine.
To 3333386, again, you are smarter than this and know not to give an inch to these Muslim scum. Poop Paul would be the Weakest Commander-In-Chief in American History.
Im not certain yet. I wish Christie would have run
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You are aware that Ron Poop Paul supports these Wall Street Protesters and that A LOT of these Protesters are voting for Ron Poop and they are Poop Supporters.
You were even on board with the Protests at first as many Ron Pooptards, like yourself, still remain loyal to the cause.
333386, you know better than these scum, don`t waste your vote in the Primary.
lol, he may understand their frustration but he doesnt agree with the solution and neither do I. Yes, I did beleive that this movement could be taken into a new direction at first but I was wrong and I have no problems admitting that, unlike you when you are wrong. That is why I continue to grow and you remain an idiot.
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I almost feel bad at just how far gone, naive, and delusional these people are.
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I almost feel bad at just how far gone, naive, and delusional these people are.
What is frightening is that they are all around us.
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RP as president
Obama as Foreign Secretary
Economy and terrorist threat solved ;D
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Occupy Wall Street protesters plan 'Millionaires March' to the homes of the '1%'
NY Daily News ^ | 10/10/2011 | BY Helen Kennedy
Posted on October 10, 2011 6:18:39 PM EDT by tobyhill
The Occupy Wall Street protesters are planning to get in the face of some of New York's richest tycoons on Tuesday.
A "Millionaires March" will visit the homes - or, more realistically, the gleaming marble lobbies - of five of the city's wealthiest residents.
On the target list: NewsCorp CEO Rupert Murdoch, JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, conservative billionaire David Koch, financier Howard Milstein and hedge fund mogul John Paulson.
Between 400 and 800 marchers plan to go to their homes to present them with oversize checks to dramatize how much less they will pay when New York State's 2% tax on millionaires expires at the end of the year.
"Ninety nine percent of the residents of New York are going to suffer from this tax giveaway so the 1% who already live in absolute luxury can put more money in their pockets," said Doug Forand, one of the march organizers.
"This is fiscally, economically and morally wrong."
The march kicks off at 12:30 p.m. at 59th Street and Fifth Avenue and heads to the Upper East Side.
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
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Costs rise as Wall Street protests continue (Should leftist kook freeloaders be forced to pay rent?)
Boston.com ^ | 10/10/11 | Meghan Barr
Posted on October 10, 2011 7:15:19 PM EDT by Libloather
Costs rise as Wall Street protests continue
By Meghan Barr
Associated Press / October 10, 2011
NEW YORK - As the protest on Wall Street enters its fourth week, police officers are keeping their posts around the perimeter of the park at the center of it all. And with no end in sight, the cost of constant police surveillance will continue to rise at a time when Mayor Michael Bloomberg has ordered citywide budget cuts.
The NYPD has already spent $1.9 million, mostly in overtime pay, to patrol the area near Zuccotti Park, where hundreds of protesters have camped out for several weeks. Though cold weather is on the way in, protesters don't plan on leaving anytime soon. They're prepared to stay put for the long haul.
"The bottom line is that people want to express themselves, and as long as they obey the laws, we allow them to," Bloomberg told reporters Monday when asked about the protesters' staying power. "If they break the laws, then we're going to do what we're supposed to do -- enforce the laws."
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I might go toss snowballs at these pieces of trash.
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(30) "Occupy Iowa" protesters arrested
CBS ^ | 10/10/2011
Posted on October 10, 2011 10:27:09 PM EDT by Beckett08
More than 30 Occupy Iowa protesters have been arrested in front of the Iowa Statehouse, reports CBS Affiliate KCCI.
The demonstrators were warned twice about trespassing before the arrests began around 11 p.m. Sunday night.
Iowa State Patrol officials had warned protesters that they didn't have a permit to camp on state-owned land.
Officials with the Iowa Department of Public Safety said those arrested include 30 adults and two juveniles who were taken into custody.
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We went from Hoovervilles to Obamavilles.
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Occupy Wall Street protesters plan 'Millionaires March' to Rupert Murdoch's, tycoons' NYC homes
Ny Daily News ^
Posted on October 10, 2011 9:31:43 PM EDT by Borough Park
The Occupy Wall Street protesters are planning to get in the face of some of New York's richest tycoons on Tuesday.
A "Millionaires March" will visit the homes - or, more realistically, the gleaming marble lobbies - of five of the city's wealthiest residents.
On the target list: NewsCorp CEO Rupert Murdoch, JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, conservative billionaire David Koch, financier Howard Milstein and hedge fund mogul John Paulson.
Between 400 and 800 marchers plan to go to their homes to present them with oversize checks to dramatize how much less they will pay when New York State's 2% tax on millionaires expires at the end of the year.
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
I hope these leeches get German shepherds unleashed on them.
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wow! This is sedition and attempted terrorism by these commie thug pieces of garbage. Time for the water hoses, batons, dogs, riot gear, rubber bullets, and counter march to begin.
And you guys wonder why I want nothing to do w these commie traitors and pukes?
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Occupy Philadelphia Protester Marches With Soviet Flag
YouTube ^ | 10/8/2011
Posted on October 10, 2011 10:42:12 PM EDT by Just4Him
If the sight of a Soviet Flag waving through the Birthplace of Liberty doesn't sicken you, well, then, you're probably marching along side it.
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Some Business Owners Ramp Up Distaste For ‘Occupy Wall Street’ Protesters-Locals Blast Demonstraters
WCBS-AM ^ | October 10, 2011
Posted on October 10, 2011 9:36:13 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
On Monday, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said “Occupy Wall Street” protesters can stay and have their say as along as they’re law-abiding.
But also expressing themselves were the business owners around Zuccotti Park, who are angered over the impact of the Wall Street protests, reports CBS 2’s Kathryn Brown.
In his strongest comments since protesters began occupying lower Manhattan four weeks ago, Mayor Bloomberg made it clear demonstrators can continue to occupy New York City indefinitely, as long as they don’t break the law.
“The bottom line is people want to express themselves and as long as they obey the laws we’ll allow them to,” Bloomberg said early Monday.
But for some business owners, there’s nothing but outrage. They say the city’s stance on the protest means there is no end in sight to what has rapidly become a living nightmare, reports Brown.
“They want to take showers, want to wash up and use the toilet paper to dry up. It becomes … you gotta have one person assigned just to clean the bathrooms,” said Steve Zamfotis, manager of “Charley’s” restaurant.
Zamfotis, who runs a pizza shop directly across the street from Zuccotti Park, said he has to stand guard at the door — just to keep protesters out.
“They expect everything, everything for free, nothing to pay,” Zamfotis said.
Meanwhile, the protesters are starting to notice folks taking advantage of the demonstration by grabbing some of the free food and clothes that have been made available in Zuccotti Park.
“The tourists take all the food, and the hipsters take all the clothes,” said one demonstrator.
(VIDEO AT LINK)
But other businesses are opening their doors — in a show of solidarity.
“Oh no problem. We let them use the bathroom because all the fancy places close the bathrooms for them. Yeah, we leave it open. It’s too much, but what are you gonna do? Everybody has right to use the bathrooms,” said Alfonso Alfi, manager of “Pronto Pizza.”
The private firm that owns Zuccotti Park said it hasn’t been able to clean the park since Sept. 16 and sanitary conditions have become unacceptable.
In a statement the firm said it is working with the city to restore the park to its intended use, but on Monday — from the mayor to the NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly — city brass said they can’t — and won’t — force a stop to this anytime soon.
“As long as people obey the law we’re not stepping in at all,” Kelly said.
Also Monday, a few celebrities stopped by Zuccotti Park to lend their support.
The Rev. Al Sharpton was scheduled to broadcast his nationally syndicated radio show “Keepin’ It Real” from Zuccotti Park on Monday.
1010 WINS’ Stan Brooks In Zuccotti Park
(AUDIO AT LINK)
Media mogul Russell Simmons and actress Susan Sarandon visited the park on Monday. Sarandon told 1010 WINS’ Stan Brooks, ”This is what democracy looks like … it’s great that anybody cares enough. I’m surprised people weren’t in the street a year ago. I think it’s fabulous.”
Also, a video on YouTube has surfaced showing Jimmy “The Rent Is Too Damn High” McMillan playing guitar and singing a song for the protesters.
In other protest news, a YouTube video, purportedly by the hacker collective known as “Anonymous,” threatened to wipe out the New York Stock Exchange website Monday. However, a message on a YouTube video suggests that the entirety of the the hacker collective does not support the attempt to disable the website. It says some factions of it are going to press forward with the effort.
A company that monitors website response times says The NYSE’s website was hobbled twice Monday, possibly the result of computer attacks.
A San Mateo-based company called Keynote Systems Inc. said the NYSE website experienced a one-minute outage around 3:30 p.m. Eastern, then a half-hour outage about two hours later.
NYSE spokesman Ray Pellecchia said an investigation by the stock exchange showed no disruptions to its website.
(VIDEO AT LINK)
This mess is going to be the gift that keeps on giving for the RW.
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Protestors plan to clog U.S. Capitol building, create CHAOS
The Daily Caller ^ | October 10, 2011 | Jamie Weinstein
Posted on October 10, 2011 11:25:52 PM EDT by matthewreporter
During an evening meeting at Freedom Plaza in Washington, D.C., protesters discussed plans to storm Capitol Hill Tuesday and create chaos inside and outside House and Senate office buildings.
“We will have people going in over time into all the different doors of all the different buildings,” said one of the organizers of the “Stop the Machine” movement to roughly 100 assembled protesters.
“Stop the Machine” was organized in commemoration of the 10th anniversary of the American invasion of Afghanistan and is distinct from the Occupy D.C. movement currently occupying McPherson Square.
At an appointed time and in a particular office building — both of which will be named at a meeting in Freedom Plaza Tuesday at 9:00 a.m. — the protesters plan to create a ruckus which they hope will shut down work on Capitol Hill.
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Pray that Bama and pelosi keep supporting these commies.
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Kanye West Crashes Occupy Wall Street With Russell Simmons
Reuters ^ | October 10, 2011 | Lucas Shaw
Posted on October 10, 2011 11:38:40 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Ladies and gentleman, Kanye West is in the building. Or in this case, outside of it.
The outspoken rapper paid a visit to the Occupy Wall Street protests Monday afternoon, led by rap mogul Russell Simmons. Simmons was there to appear on Reverend Al Sharpton’s radio show, which the MSNBC primetime host was broadcasting live from the park.
The media spotlight on the movement has not faded and celebrity interest hasn't abated. Organization, however, is still lacking and political goals still need unpacking.
As the protests enter their fourth week, and copycat demonstrations proliferate as far as Fort Myers, Fla. -- population 48,000 and change -- media attention continues to grow. But that attention is often uncontrolled as the organization continues to find its footing.....
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
This movement just jumped the shark!
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Corporation that owns Zuccotti "Protester" Park Wins $168 Million Loan Guarantee from Obama DOE!
Original Research ^ | Oct. 11, 2011 | chatteringclassof58/FightinJAG, ed.
Posted on October 11, 2011 5:51:57 AM EDT by fightinJAG
(This info was developed and originally posted by chatteringclassof58. The original post was deleted. This is an edited version of the material.)
Occupy Wall Street protesters have been camped out in and trashing Zuccotti Park for weeks. Zuccotti Park is a very nice private park, right in the middle of Manhattan.
Zuccotti Park is owned by Brookfield Office Properties, which is part of Brookfield Asset Management, worth at least $150 billion.
Brookfield Office Properties
Mayor Bloomberg has said he can do nothing about the protest unless the park owners (Brookfield Properties) ask the protesters to be evicted. Brookfield issued a statement that it was okay with them if the protesters stayed on their private property.
NYPD: Only Landlord Can Evict Occupy Wall Street Protesters From Zuccotti Park
That’s pretty nice of a big evil corporation to let protesters sleep, smoke weed and go number one and two on its nice private park in downtown Manhattan. Especially since the protesters are protesting big evil corporations. (But then again, President Obama expressed solidarity with the Occupy Wall Street protesters, Nancy Pelosi said “God Bless Them,” and Bill Ayers is writing their collective Occupy Wall Street demands. So someone loves them.)
Hmm. Wonder what that’s about.
Maybe Mayor Bloomberg has some inside track on what’s going on here? After all, Bloomberg’s longtime shack-up girlfriend, Diana L. Taylor, is on the Board of Directors of Brookfield Properties, the company that owns Zuccotti Park. (She’s also served as the CFO of the Long Island Power Authority.)
You can read about Ms. Taylor here:
Diana L. Taylor
Brookfield Office Properties Board of Directors, Diana L. Taylor
Zuccotti Park is named after John E. Zuccotti, a member of the Brookfield Properties board.
Profile of John E. Zuccotti
John Zuccotti was also a long-term member of the Board of Directors of WellPoint Health Network (also known as Blue Cross of California, Blue Cross of Georgia, Empire Blue Cross Blue Shield in New York, Blue Cross Blue Shield in Missouri and Wisconsin, HealthLink, and UNICARE.).
WellPoint Health Networks
President Obama used WellPoint as an example of the evils that would be exorcized by Obamacare. In fact, some argue that WellPoint, along with other large health insurers, willingly colluded with the Obama administration in order to save Obamacare from an otherwise certain political death.
How the Health Insurance Industry Saved Obamacare
Why?
When the dust settled and people were actually able to read Obamacare, turns out it favors WellPoint.
Forbes: Obamacare Favors WellPoint
A few years ago, Brookfield Properties became the largest client in a start-up lobbying firm called Oldaker, Biden & Belair. Yes, the same Hunter Biden who was on the Board of Amtrak while Daddy was pouring Fedgov money down that rathole.
Some of Brookfield's lobbying history here and here.
One of the big divisions of Brookfield Asset Management is Brookfield Renewable Energy. You know where this is going. This company has received hundreds of millions, if not billions, in “green” grants, stimulus money and DOE loans (a la Solyndra).
First, about Brookfield Renewable Energy:
Brookfield Asset Management is looking to merge its hydroelectric and wind power assets into the world's second-largest public renewable power company in a move designed to cash in on the growing demand for cleaner power.
With a market capitalization of $6 billion, it would rank behind Italy's ENEL GP's $10-billion equity value and ahead of EDP of France and Portugal's EDF Group.
"The renewable power generation sector is increasingly becoming a meaningful portion of the new energy supply on a global basis," Richard Legault, CEO of Brookfield's power operations, said on conference calls with analysts and bondholders.
"Brookfield continues to believe that the strong growth in renewables will be driven by widespread acceptance of the need to reduce the world's carbon footprint, challenges faced by competing technologies such as coal or nuclear generation and the desire for energy self-sufficiency pursued by many governments through various policies and incentives."
A quick search of what Brookfield is up to:
A NH Solyndra? Wind farm gets fed loan
In the name of “green energy,” the Obama administration is using taxpayer money to subsidize a New Hampshire wind farm that is a subsidiary of a hugely profitable company.
New Hampshire’s largest wind farm, the Granite Reliable Power project under construction in Coos County, is jointly owned by BAIF Granite Holdings, LLC and Freshnet Wind Energy, LLC. BAIF owns 75 percent of Granite Reliable. BAIF Granite Holdings was created earlier this year by Brookfield Renewable Power, which is a subsidiary of Brookfield Asset Management of New York.
That company, which runs clean energy operations around the world, has deep pockets. It reported net income of $454 million in 2009 and $3.2 billion in 2010.
Brookfield Renewable Power financed the creation of BAIF Granite Holdings from its Brookfield Americas Infrastructure fund, which was reported in February to have $2.7 billion in assets. With that kind of backing, it is curious that the U.S. Department of Energy announced it would guarantee up to 80 percent of a $168.9 million loan for the Granite Reliable wind farm project last week.
Why would a company created by a $3.2 billion company and backed by a $2.7 billion private fund need federal loan guarantees? That would be an important question at any time, but it is more pertinent after the bankruptcy of Solyndra, a solar-panel maker that got a $535 million federal loan guarantee from the Obama administration last year.
Granite Reliable’s wind farm is not proven, and Granite Reliable is a limited liability company, which provides broad investor protection if the company goes down. If the wind farm flops, and investors cut their losses, the taxpayers stand to lose $135 million.
What is the justification for risking $135 million in public money, especially on a company with access to so much private cash? Apparently, the justification is that Obama likes “green power” and wants to associate himself with it.
With the country running deficits as far as the eye can see, the Obama administration opts to spend money we don’t have to subsidize a risky venture undertaken by the subsidiary of a huge, profitable company. If that doesn’t perfectly illustrate what is wrong with crony capitalism in general and the Obama administration’s practice of it in particular, we don’t know what would.
Department of Energy Finalizes Loan Guarantee of Nearly $170 Million to Granite Reliable Power
September 23, 2011 - 3:31pm
Washington, D.C. – U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu announced today the Department of Energy finalized a partial guarantee for $168.9 million loan to Granite Reliable Power, LLC. The loan guarantee will support a 99 megawatt (MW) wind generation project that will be New Hampshire’s largest wind farm. The project will be located in Coos County in northern New Hampshire, approximately 110 miles north of Concord. Project sponsors, BAIF Granite Holdings, LLC and Freshet Wind Energy, LLC, expect the project will fund nearly 200 construction jobs. [Note: BAIF owns 75 percent of Granite Reliable. BAIF Granite Holdings was created earlier this year by Brookfield Renewable Power, which is a subsidiary of Brookfield Asset Management of New York.
So.
Still wondering why a big evil corporation might be okay with a bunch of nasty protesters trashing its private property in beautiful downtown Manhattan?
As even the protesters could tell you, corporations don’t do stuff out of the goodness of their hearts.
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10 Thoughts About Occupy Wall Street
Townhall.com ^ | October 11, 2011 | John Hawkins
Posted on October 11, 2011 7:29:27 AM EDT by Kaslin
1) If you're serious about going after Wall Street, it's hard to see how you could vote for Barack Obama who ladled out billions in taxpayer dollars to Wall Street corporations. "Wall Street (also) donated twice as much money to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign in 2008 as it did to John McCain’s." How much sense does it make to protest Wall Street and then vote for the guy who is doing more to help Wall Street at America's expense than anyone else in the country?
2) The Tea Partiers have been called racist because there aren't a lot of minorities who show up at the protests. Yet, judging by the pictures, there aren’t any more minorities at Occupy Wall Street. Does that mean they're racist? In fact, given that black Americans vote Democratic 9-to-1 and Hispanic Americans vote Democratic 2-to-1, shouldn't there be a lot more minorities at Occupy Wall Street than at a Tea Party?
3) If you "occupy a job," you don't have time to spend weeks "Occupying Wall Street." If you don't "occupy a job," it would make more sense to put in resumes with Wall Street firms than protest them. If you don't have the skills to get a job on Wall Street or anywhere else, you should "occupy" a university or a training class to build some marketable skills, rather than sleeping in the park like a hobo and blocking the Brooklyn Bridge so that working people can't get home.
4) Liberals have claimed that Tea Parties are violent mobs, but there have been more arrests, violence, and attacks on police in just the Occupy Wall Street protest in New York City than in every Tea Party combined nationwide. Also, if reports are to be believed, I'm pretty sure there have been more people relieving themselves in alleyways and on police cars, too.
5) Although the reasons behind the Occupy Wall Street protests are extremely fuzzy, which is pretty weird if you think about it, the most common theme that has come up is a complaint about the bank bailouts. First of all, it's worth noting that unlike many of the Republicans in D.C., much of the conservative base was opposed to the bank bailouts right from the start. In fact, back in September of 2008, 71% of conservative bloggers were opposed to the bailout. Additionally, the economic collapse that led to the bailout was caused by the government, not the banks. The government bent the banks over a barrel, forced them to make risky loans, and then when those loans eventually went bad, the same people who created the problem pretended they had nothing to do with it. So, you can protest Wall Street all day long, but the real culprits are in D.C.
6) The word "astroturf" keeps falsely being applied to Tea Party protests by liberals. Meanwhile, there are actually ads on Craigslist offering to pay people to go out and protest at Occupy Wall Street.
7) There are a lot of college students protesting that they have huge student loans to pay off, but they can't find a job that pays enough to do it. For some people, this may be a short term problem. Know where my first post-college job was in a crummy economy? Wal-Mart Portrait Studios. What a wonderful use of my four year degree that was. That being said, if you ran up $60,000 in debt so you could get a degree in philosophy or lesbian studies at a private school, whose fault is that? Certainly not Wall Street. If you rack up huge amounts of debt so you can get a degree that qualifies you to spend the next 30 years as a convenience store clerk, that was YOUR dumb decision and how you take care of it should be YOUR problem.
8) As more Democrats like Nancy Pelosi start to associate themselves with Occupy Wall Street, it seems fair to ask these politicians to answer two basic questions. Will they give back the campaign contributions they've already received from Wall Street? Will they continue to take campaign contributions from Wall Street?
9) Nobody, not even the Occupy Wall Street protesters, knows exactly why they're protesting or what they're trying to accomplish, but the general idea seems to be that the people who aren't paying income taxes are complaining that the people who are paying taxes aren't handing over enough of their money. Apparently, the phrase, "The world doesn't owe you a living" needs to make a comeback in homes across America.
10) As Herman Cain said, "You can demonstrate all you want on Wall Street. The problem is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue!" The solutions to America's problems aren't going to be found in punishing corporations, the rich, or the successful. They'll be found in shrinking the government, giving more power to the people, and getting more Americans to form corporations, become rich, and become successful.
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Boston police knock down Occupy Boston tent city
The Boston Herald ^ | October 11, 2011 | Christine McConville
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:23:28 AM by AU72
Defiant Occupy Boston protesters were arrested and charged with unlawful assembly and being in a public park after hours in a massive, early morning crackdown at the protest group’s second tent city on the Rose Kennedy Greenway.
“It’s important that we gain control and make sure the rules are followed, “ said Boston Police Commissioner Edward Davis, who was on site during the police action.
The protesters tents and personal belongings were also tossed into the trash during the sweep that kicked off at about 1:30 a.m. and included about 100 arrests.
The arrests and site eradication came after as many as 700 police officers descended to the Atlantic Avenue compound, which a small faction of protesters had taken over yesterday, while Boston police were busy keeping thousands more protesters off the Charlestown Bridge.
Davis acknowledged that the arrests marked a shift in the once harmonious relations between the group and the police.
“The group that was here for the first ten days was working very closely with us,” Davis said, “but they warned us yesterday morning that a new group, the anarchists, wanted to take control.”
By nightfall, at least 40 tents had been pitched on this second site, which is just north of the group’s original occupation site.
Boston police and Mayor Thomas M. Menino asked the leaderless group, which is rallying for a more equitable tax structure in the U.S., to leave that second site by midnight.
Police said the park’s patrons had just spent $150,000 to spruce it up.
Protesters refused to move.
As midnight came and went, the 300 occupied stayed there, chanting, singing and delighting in their staying power.
“Mayor Menino told us to leave by midnight,” one of the occupiers shouted as the rest of the group cheered. “It’s 1 a.m, and we’re still here.”
A wave of police arrived on site just after 1:30 a.m.
Officer from the Boston police, the state police, the transit police and the Suffolk County sheriff’s office arrived on foot, by motorcycle, in prisoner transport wagons, and on bikes.
Police then surrounded the second campsite, told protesters the park was closed to the public at 11 p.m., and asked them to leave.
When the protesters stayed, police began pulling them, one by one, from the crowd.
“They just ripped the group open, and went for our tents,” said Nicholas Hassell, a 21-year-old grill cook from Franklin. “They shouldn’t be doing this. We have the right to exercise our freedom of speech.”
Protester Anasstassia Baichorova, 27, and from Cambridge, also criticized police.
“It’s unacceptable,” said Baichorova, as her eyes scanned the crowd for her partner, who she thinks was arrested. “We have the freedom of assembly.”
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Baton - meet face
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dont be a dick. let the tea partiers march, let these folks march. let them live in tents and crap in buckets.
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wow! This is sedition and attempted terrorism by these commie thug pieces of garbage. Time for the water hoses, batons, dogs, riot gear, rubber bullets, and counter march to begin.
And you guys wonder why I want nothing to do w these commie traitors and pukes?
We know why. You are a neo conservative. You support the establishment= Wall STreet.
You are infact a socialist. You have become the very thing you hate
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We know why. You are a neo conservative. You support the establishment= Wall STreet.
You are infact a socialist. You have become the very thing you hate
great point... 33 screams about the Schiff book... I bet Schiff would be pretty happy about anything working against the evil globalist agenda.
Methinks 333386 would hate upon cheese danish if he saw Obama eating one.
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http://www.breitbart.tv/seius-stephen-lerner-leaks-plan-to-terrorize-corporate-executives-using-occupy-wall-street/#.TpOaSiKnN-8.facebook
wow! This is sedition and attempted terrorism by these commie thug pieces of garbage. Time for the water hoses, batons, dogs, riot gear, rubber bullets, and counter march to begin.
And you guys wonder why I want nothing to do w these commie traitors and pukes?
Pipe down, skippy.
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We know why. You are a neo conservative. You support the establishment= Wall STreet.
You are infact a socialist. You have become the very thing you hate
Right - cause economic terrorism is ok right?
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Right - cause economic terrorism is ok right?
No so why do you support it?
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This is the communist traitor behind this rabble.
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Commie traitor? Wake up old man you are living in a dream world this is a new millennium i know its hard to admit but times has passed you by.
FOX and other media are using your inability to cope with the modern world appealing to the primal part of your brain that responses so well to simple messages.
Wake up become a human and not a brain washed slave
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Commie traitor? Wake up old man you are living in a dream world this is a new millennium i know its hard to admit but times has passed you by.
FOX and other media are using your inability to cope with the modern world appealing to the primal part of your brain that responses so well to simple messages.
Wake up become a human and not a brain washed slave
Lerner is a communist and so are many of the groups behind this mess.
And fuck you. I want to reform wall street, not blow it up and sing koombayah w a bunch of lazy greedy doped up hippies.
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You are not reforming anything
You sit 24/7 on this board and talk shit you just heard on FOX
You want to keep things the way they are so you can hate and type on this board
Lets be honest its all you got thats why you so desperately cling to your obsolete beliefs
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Occupy Baltimore protest continues after a week
Goals remain unclear, but police, neighbors say peaceful protest hasn't been a nuisance
By Childs Walker, The Baltimore Sun
8:42 p.m. EDT, October 10, 2011
Ben Pfeffer traded his Charles Village apartment for a sleeping bag across the street from the Inner Harbor.
He gave up a roof over his head to join a protest without specific goals or a clear end date. He's not even sure what would constitute a successful outcome for Occupy Baltimore, which sprang from similar protests that have swept New York and other major cities.
But after a week living in McKeldin Square, Pfeffer feels part of a forming community, one centered on the basic sense that America has lost its way.
"I've been generally discontented with the structure I've been living under for my entire life," said the 22-year-old, who graduated from Towson University with an anthropology degree in the spring. "Here, we're discussing how to help each other outside of the existing structure."
That's a trickier proposition than it sounds. The protesters, who range in number from 100 to 200 a day, are not unified by a single cause. Few had met one another before last week, when they began sleeping side by side in the square. Every night, they hold a democratic meeting, trying to hash out exactly why they're there. It's hard to know whether the protest is working when the protesters haven't agreed on its objectives.
"There are a lot of fits and starts," said Jessica Lewis, a self-described anarchist who works on the media team for Occupy Baltimore. "This is a big, diverse group, but I think a lot of the power of the Occupy movement is that despite all the individual pursuits, we're united in our sense of disempowerment and angst."
The protest's most inspiring moments, she said, arise from the messy discussions about how the leaderless group should define itself.
Baltimore police and neighboring business owners agree that the protesters have acted peacefully and caused little nuisance. None has been arrested, a police spokesman said. "Not much to comment on," said Ryan O'Doherty, a spokesman for Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake.
On Monday afternoon, the signs outnumbered the protesters. "Capitalism Cannot Be Reformed," one read. "Seriously, What Would Jesus Do?" inquired another. Then there was the depiction of a pig, with dollar signs for pupils and a fat cigar hanging from its snout.
About 30 people milled in the square — a few strumming guitars, others flashing signs at passing motorists, some homeless and looking for lunch. Pfeffer bemoaned the street festival vibe.
"That's not what we're about," he said, pacing the square shirtless in a pair of green gym shorts with a cell phone clipped to the waistband. "This is not a festival in the park."
Marina Roberson, 49, said the scene reminded her of a 1960s protest. "It is like a blast from the past," she said from her perch behind a first aid desk, where she was assisting as her contribution to the cause. "I love the spirit of the young people. We're going to need to help each other, because it's not coming from the government."
Jimmy Young, a homeless resident of downtown, said he has spent the last four nights with protesters because "the bottom line is I appreciate what they're doing."
"I hope something comes out of it," he said, reclining on a grassy ridge overlooking the square. "People are losing their jobs and losing their homes, and the government doesn't want to do anything about it."
The protest began a week ago, with a crowd of more than 100 expressing anger at corporate America and solidarity with protesters in Manhattan, where the grass-roots effort began before spinning off to Los Angeles, Boston, Washington and other cities.
Since then the Baltimore organizers have carried off everything from a drum rally to an S&M pageant depicting the cruelties of the military industrial complex.
They have divided into topical committees and discussed various issues at nightly "General Assembly" meetings. Despite all that, their goals remain nebulous.
"Individuals protesting bring their own specific goals and concerns, and the group plans to highlight the diversity of issues inspiring those who are occupying," reads a draft mission statement on the group's website. "A plan to create a clear articulation of goals and demands are underway."
A canvas stands on one side of the square with the words "Agenda add topics" emblazoned across the top in red paint. People have posted note cards underneath. "End racist housing discrimination," reads one. "I suggest establishing a supplies committee," reads another.
Online notes from Saturday's evening assembly show that the group discussed organizing a sit-in at City Hall, decriminalizing drugs and increasing the minimum wage. But protesters also admonished themselves for producing too much trash at the site and urged greater re-use of dishes. A "supplies needed" list called for packing tape, hummus, cotton swabs, deodorant and "anything that will turn bread into a sandwich."
Such mundane preoccupations aside, the Baltimore protest has drawn positive notices from observers of the wider Occupy movement.
A Boston Phoenix blogger, who has toured various Occupy protests for the alternative weekly, said that the Baltimore edition was "impressive in both its energy and organization." The blogger also touted the protest's waste management, noting that Baltimore's outraged had not only rented a portable toilet but had cleaned it regularly.
Cate Conmy was less impressed. The New Yorker was in Baltimore on Monday for a conference of museum workers and strolled through McKeldin at lunchtime. "Honestly, it's a little rag tag right now," she said.
She surveyed the signs spread across the square. "I like that everyone at least left their ideas out," she said of the slogan collage.
Conmy said she and her co-workers have discussed the merits of the Occupy protests around the country. "I don't think the lack of cohesive arguments is a point against it," she said. "I think there's a basic feeling that something is wrong."
Neighboring workers said they have hardly noticed the protesters.
"If not for the fact you just told me it's going on, I wouldn't have known it," said Danny Morales, manager of the M&S Grill at Harborplace. "They've been very well behaved. I haven't even heard them doing any kind of chants."
"Nobody has paid too much attention to it," said Katie Scollan, store manager of the Urban Outfitters shop across the street from the rally. "They've kind of stayed over there. As long as they don't do anything to harm our business, by all means they should stay where they want."
Pfeffer knows that some onlookers are confused and skeptical about a protest with no clear mission.
He started as a skeptic of the Wall Street protests. "It was partly that I didn't understand it," he said. "I wasn't really clear what their goals were."
But he was intrigued by a gathering of Baltimoreans who share his distaste for the political climate. A new force is taking shape, he said, even if he can't quite describe it.
"I'm not there," Pfeffer said of the protest on Wall Street. "I'm in Baltimore, and it's important that something is happening here."
childs.walker@baltsun.com
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You are not reforming anything
You sit 24/7 on this board and talk shit you just heard on FOX
You want to keep things the way they are so you can hate and type on this board
Lets be honest its all you got thats why you so desperately cling to your obsolete beliefs
LMFAO! Communism/socialism/liberalism/leftism is obsolete blackass.
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My god you are stupid
Yes they are obselete thats my point
We live in a new world wake the fuck up
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My god you are stupid
Yes they are obselete thats my point
We live in a new world wake the fuck up
So tell me what you want to do? Tell me this new brilliant scheme only you know about that will work.
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:)
sometimes a picture speaks a thousand words.
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So tell me what you want to do? Tell me this new brilliant scheme only you know about that will work.
First stop calling people retarded names like commie and the such. Its embarresing for a grown man. Ever wonder why FOX/MSNBC etc desperately tries to keep this kind of rhetoric alive? So people is fighting each other and not the establishment.
Second realise that Wall Street and corrupt politicians are sucking our country dry all hidden under a carpet of patritism.
3 stop listening to news sources that have biased agenda.
4 become a critical thinker
5 apply the 4 above and you will grow intellectually by leaps and bounds
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sometimes a picture speaks a thousand words.
Really? One picture tells the whole story?
You are even dumber than i gave you credit for
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Occupy Wall Street is a Misinformed Fraud
Townhall.com ^ | October 10, 2011 | Jeff Carter
Varying posts of mine have elicited comments from Occupy Wall Street spokespeople. I thought that I might respond to one of them in a blogpost. Remember, I am already pitching a perfect game against them.
Now that none other than Obama babysitter and terrorist Bill Ayers has decided to break for Occupy Wall Street, I think I am on even firmer ground.
I am assuming the 1%’ers the OWS street crowd wants to send to re-education camps according to Roseanne Barr is the people that make more than $200k per year. Guess what. A lot of those people are doing it with their own risk capital. They aren’t corporate employees. For the corporate employees that earn more than that, at least they are making decisions that affect billions of dollars of shareholder money. Those corporate employees in general earn it.
How does OWS feel about union executives that earn more than most of the corporate employees that employ the union? Just sayin’.
Am I pissed off about executives of banks walking away with golden parachutes and huge bonuses after running banks into the ground? You bet. But I am smart enough to realize that the Federal Government gave them the ammo to kill their companies via Fannie and Freddie, and then saved them with TALF and TARP. You might also remember that government forced companies like Bank of America ($BAC) to merge with Merrill Lynch ($ML), and that going back to 1998, it was President Clinton and Treasury Secretary Rubin that pushed hard for ending Glass-Steagall.
So yeah, I wouldn’t have bailed out the banks. I doubt many Tea Partiers would have. We aren’t happy about the outcome either. We don’t like Dodd-Frank and think it should be repealed. But it doesn’t mean we should nationalize and socialize the entire banking system. That would cause a worse train wreck than we already have.
The OWS crowd is really ticked off about education and student debt. So am I. Why the heck do we have so many subsidies for education? It simply drives up the cost. Education is one gigantic bloated bureaucracy. However, the OWS answer is “free education and forgiveness of student loans.” Well, screw that.
Why not offer competition in education? By the way, no one put a gun to your head an told you to borrow massive sums of money for school. You could have worked your way through, went to a community college the first two years and then a four year school. Did it occur to any of you to check out how much money a typical sociology graduate degreed person made before you ponied up more than 100K to get that sociology masters? Economics work. Used correctly, they help you make good decisions. Used poorly, you do stupid things.
Which politicians are using bigotry and hate? It’s not the right that is consistently playing the race card. Right now it’s the man in the oval office. He plays it as much as he can. I don’t hear cries of racism coming from the right. Were the OWS people in Atlanta racists for not letting a former civil rights activist turned Congressman speak? Just asking.
You guys embrace Obamacare. Yet, you don’t look at how other countries have fared with socialized medicine. Canada is starting to scrap it. England is considering it too. Entitlements eat up our budget. Why not more transparency and a free market targeted to individuals in health care?
OWS wants organic produce. They want green farming. No one takes better care of their land than the guy who owns it. We also can’t feed the world using organic means. OWS would rather see children starving than people eating. There is plenty of organic produce out there. All you have to do is buy it. Why take away freedom from people that don’t want to pay for it?
On energy policy you want green energy. Don’t we all. Problem is, the stuff doesn’t work and its too expensive. The greenest, most powerful energy source out there is nuclear and I don’t see you guys campaigning for more nuclear plants. Have you seen the damage to wildlife that wind energy has created? Energy is about economics. Increase the supply of energy and all prices will come down. But, from your statements I don’t think anyone from OWS spent a lot of time in a free market economics lecture. Google this, TINFL. Understand it. Live it.
You OWS people seem to be upset at corporations that pay no tax. Me too! But, you want to tax them more. I got news for you. Corporations never pay taxes. They are simply tax aggregators. They pass the cost to their consumers. We would be better off charging companies 0% in corporate taxes and incenting them to create jobs here in the US. Then you guys could go to work, pay off your student loans and stay out of the parks so everyone could go and enjoy them.
Most of the problems in the US stem from bad public policy and big government. Governments are awfully hard to put out of business. But it’s easy to put companies out of business. Don’t buy their product. Don’t use their services. Elect Tea Party people, they’ll shrink the size of government and give you more freedom.
You seem to be upset that corporations are treated as individuals in the eyes of the law. Well, there are years and years of legal precedent associated with that. But perhaps you’d like a good reason why. Try checking out and understanding Coase Theorem. Then answer the question of who should pay for pollution control devices on a river, the factory that pollutes it or the fishermen that earn a living by hauling fish out of the river?
We can disband all the companies if you want. We can blow up Wall Street and the capital markets. We can round up all the capitalists and send them to a camp. But, sooner rather than later the totalitarian paradise you envision will be ripped apart by economics. Black markets will tear at the fabric of your structured society. Markets eliminate transaction costs, increase transparency and make things cheaper!
Why?
Because earning a profit and building economies of scale and scope are part of the human condition. Mankind has done it since the beginning of time. Our lives are easier, better and our standard of living is raised. All we really need is to get big government out of the way.
The sooner you embrace that the better off you will be.
UPDATE
Nice video exposing OWS.
Occupy Wall Street Was Organized From Day One by SEIU / ACORN Front - The Working Family Party
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Im actually starting to think you are paid to spread neocon propaganda
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Im actually starting to think you are paid to spread neocon propaganda
You can think anything you want. Anything having do do w SEIU, Lerner, Van Jones, WFP, is BBBBAAADDDD News.
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You can think anything you want. Anything having do do w SEIU, Lerner, Van Jones, WFP, is BBBBAAADDDD News.
Compared to Wall Street and the Govern? Get the fuck out of here
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Compared to Wall Street and the Govern? Get the fuck out of here
Yes. Van Jones and WFP are self described communists. Hope that helps.
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He just owned the Whole Occupy Wall Street Morons there along with Ron Poop and his army of Paultards out there.
The Pooptards out there for Occupy Wall Street are growing and growing and growing.
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Yes. Van Jones and WFP are self described communists. Hope that helps.
I give up :-\
Its like having a discussion with a 5 year-old
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It's a Marxist plot and I need to know where the terrorists will invade. I think I'm owed that much.
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It's a Marxist plot and I need to know where the terrorists will invade. I think I'm owed that much.
Elect Ron Paul and you probably will have a better chance of finding that out.
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West coast?
Give me a hint at least.
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West coast?
Give me a hint at least.
What is your solution?
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Well, I'm just guessing west coast because that is the left side of the country and the terrorists are plotting with the libtards and there will probably be a big invasion there.
Am I getting hot?
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Well, I'm just guessing west coast because that is the left side of the country and the terrorists are plotting with the libtards and there will probably be a big invasion there.
Am I getting hot?
Terrorism is a threat and Obama has done an impeccable job of combating it. What is your point?
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East coast then?
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Occupy Wall Street... mansions
CNN ^ | October 10, 2011 | Charles Riley
Occupy Wall Street is on the move ... uptown.
Why uptown? Because that's where the rich folks live!
Organizers are planning a march on Tuesday that will visit the homes of JP Morgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500) CEO Jamie Dimon, billionaire David Koch, hedge fund honcho John Paulson, Howard Milstein, and News Corp (NWSA, Fortune 500) CEO Rupert Murdoch.
The millionaires and billionaires are being targeted for what event organizers called a "willingness to hoard wealth at the expense of the 99%."
So far, protesters have not strayed too far from downtown, where a home base of sorts has been established at Zuccotti Park.
Tuesday's march -- organized by UnitedNY, the Strong Economy for All Coalition, the Working Families Party and New York Communities for Change -- will cover quite a bit of ground if successful.
The itinerary calls for protesters to hop on the subway, emerging at 59th street near Central Park, where they will start their tour just after noon.
Doug Forand, a spokesman for the groups, said that the protesters do not have a permit for the march, but were not planning on obstructing traffic and would stick to the sidewalks.
(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...
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First stop calling people retarded names like commie and the such. Its embarresing for a grown man. Ever wonder why FOX/MSNBC etc desperately tries to keep this kind of rhetoric alive? So people is fighting each other and not the establishment.
Second realise that Wall Street and corrupt politicians are sucking our country dry all hidden under a carpet of patritism.
3 stop listening to news sources that have biased agenda.
4 become a critical thinker
5 apply the 4 above and you will grow intellectually by leaps and bounds
Excellent post...I have been telling the guys on this board this for so long and they just don't get it...they are not critical thinkers and can't see past their own conservative opinions....welcome to the board Whork...good to see another guy on here who really can think for himself
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Look, the thing about these protests is that they're a Marxist plot with terrorism funded money.
We just need to figure out where and when the invasion is and then we can stock up on guns.
Pull together, America!
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I give up :-\
Its like having a discussion with a 5 year-old
now you see what I've been going through the last three years :-[
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Excellent post...I have been telling the guys on this board this for so long and they just don't get it...they are not critical thinkers and can't see past their own conservative opinions....welcome to the board Whork...good to see another guy on here who really can think for himself
The real thinkers of society. ::) ::)
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now you see what I've been going through the last three years :-[
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The real thinkers of society. ::) ::)
ROFLMAO!!!! Everytime I see that picture of the estrogen filled freak in the glasses with the Pink sign, I crack up. Don`t ever lose that picture and I hope to see more of it. HAHHAHHAH Its hilarious.
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now you see what I've been going through the last three years :-[
So sad the de-generation of the human race
Grown people turned in to brainwashed morons
Whats most sad is these people cant wake up even if they want to because then have to admit there life is a lie and none of these neo- con pricks have the balls to do that
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Post the same pics over and over in different threads.
That shit is gold!
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AHAHAH I just realized that one picture the guy has a Dairy Queen shirt on. HAHAHAHHA These people are such clowns. Does he know that DQ is a corporation?
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So sad the de-generation of the human race
Grown people turned in to brainwashed morons
Whats most sad is these people cant wake up even if they want to because then have to admit there life is a lie and none of these neo- con pricks have the balls to do that
agreed
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ROFLMAO!!!! Everytime I see that picture of the estrogen filled freak in the glasses with the Pink sign, I crack up. Don`t ever lose that picture and I hope to see more of it. HAHHAHHAH Its hilarious.
So there is retards among the protesters, whats your point?
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AHAHAH I just realized that one picture the guy has a Dairy Queen shirt on. HAHAHAHHA These people are such clowns. Does he know that DQ is a corporation?
And??
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AHAHAH I just realized that one picture the guy has a Dairy Queen shirt on. HAHAHAHHA These people are such clowns. Does he know that DQ is a corporation?
Good point.
This changes everything.
MORE TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BREAKING: Protesters plan to storm Hart Senate Office building, shut it down, at 11:30 am today
The Daily Caller ^ | October 11, 2011 | Jamie Weinstein
Anti-war protesters plan to storm the inside and outside of the Hart Senate Office Building at 11:30 a.m. today, with the intent of causing enough havoc to shut business down.
David Swanson, one of the original organizers of the October 2011/Stop the Machine protests — which is distinct from the Occupy D.C. protests in McPherson Square — explained the plan to an assembled crowd of less than 100, mainly elderly protesters in Freedom Square Tuesday morning.
The plan is to send protesters into the Hart building in small insurgent groups, which will begin causing chaos at 11:30 a.m.
(Excerpt) Read more at thedc.com ...
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BREAKING: Protesters plan to storm Hart Senate Office building, shut it down, at 11:30 am today
The Daily Caller ^ | October 11, 2011 | Jamie Weinstein
Anti-war protesters plan to storm the inside and outside of the Hart Senate Office Building at 11:30 a.m. today, with the intent of causing enough havoc to shut business down.
David Swanson, one of the original organizers of the October 2011/Stop the Machine protests — which is distinct from the Occupy D.C. protests in McPherson Square — explained the plan to an assembled crowd of less than 100, mainly elderly protesters in Freedom Square Tuesday morning.
The plan is to send protesters into the Hart building in small insurgent groups, which will begin causing chaos at 11:30 a.m.
(Excerpt) Read more at thedc.com ...
These people have a lot more balls than you huh? You have talked about this in regards to Obama but these people are actually doing something
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OK who here can tell me exactly what these protestors want?
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OK who here can tell me exactly what these protestors want?
No idea but they are making an effort to unite against the establishment unlike most people
Its actually very american
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OK who here can tell me exactly what these protestors want?
Communist takeover/ terrorist invasion.
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No idea but they are making an effort to unite against the establishment unlike most people
Its actually very american
OK another question, why are they protesting "Wall Street" and not marching on DC?
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Well if "some" of they protesters don't fit into a certain standard let's ridicule the whole thing and let our government continue to be bought and paid for, used and rented by the banks and WS. Because who the hell do these peoplel think they are protesting WS while many of them have consumer goods.
The only way to legitimize their cuase is to:
1. Not look like a hippie. Instead they should all be wearing dockers and button down shirts.
2. They should not talk about their problems as it relates to their cause. They should all be independently wealthy.
3. They should all be ditto heads
4. A maximum of 2 colors per out fit
5. All their signs and posters should use helvetica fonts.
And their cause should ultimately blame liberals.
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Communist takeover/ terrorist invasion.
Everything that directed against the establishment is a communist takeover according to these people
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No idea but they are making an effort to unite against the establishment unlike most people
Its actually very american
What "establishment"? Its not really all that American when you examine Thomas Jefferson and John Adam`s Natural Aristocracy argument.
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Well if "some" of they protesters don't fit into a certain standard let's ridicule the whole thing and let our government continue to be bought and paid for, used and rented by the banks and WS. Because who the hell do these peoplel think they are protesting WS while many of them have consumer goods.
The only way to legitimize their cuase is to:
1. Not look like a hippie. Instead they should all be wearing dockers and button down shirts.
2. They should not talk about their problems as it relates to their cause. They should all be independently wealthy.
3. They should all be ditto heads
4. A maximum of 2 colors per out fit
5. All their signs and posters should use helvetica fonts.
And their cause should ultimately blame liberals.
An American Flag, vs the typical socialist bs, once and awhile would be nice.
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OK another question, why are they protesting "Wall Street" and not marching on DC?
I wish they would
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OK another question, why are they protesting "Wall Street" and not marching on DC?
Wall Street is DC
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An American Flag, vs the typical socialist bs, once and awhile would be nice.
Good point, red white and blue is the only acceptable 3 color combo.
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Well if "some" of they protesters don't fit into a certain standard let's ridicule the whole thing and let our government continue to be bought and paid for, used and rented by the banks and WS. Because who the hell do these peoplel think they are protesting WS while many of them have consumer goods.
The only way to legitimize their cuase is to:
1. Not look like a hippie. Instead they should all be wearing dockers and button down shirts.
2. They should not talk about their problems as it relates to their cause. They should all be independently wealthy.
3. They should all be ditto heads
4. A maximum of 2 colors per out fit
5. All their signs and posters should use helvetica fonts.
And their cause should ultimately blame liberals.
So it is WS's fault that the public servants, elected by the people are for sale to the highest bidder? Maybe people should spend a little time investigating who they vote for.
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Wall Street is DC
wS will always be WS. Where it really needs to change is DC.
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OK another question, why are they protesting "Wall Street" and not marching on DC?
Communist plot/ terrorist agenda/ want the Viet Cong to win/ hate freedom.
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So it is WS's fault that the public servants, elected by the people are for sale to the highest bidder? Maybe people should spend a little time investigating who they vote for.
I said that. And posted a thread on it.
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So it is WS's fault that the public servants, elected by the people are for sale to the highest bidder? Maybe people should spend a little time investigating who they vote for.
I would bet that at least 75% of these fools voted for Obama and he has done everything they wanted.
They need to SSTTTFFFUUUU and march on 1600 PA Ave. if they are not happy.
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What "establishment"? Its not really all that American when you examine Thomas Jefferson and John Adam`s Natural Aristocracy argument.
Well the Big coorps and their henchmen in DC is in many ways comparable to the British
They both fuck the average american
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I would bet that at least 75% of these fools voted for Obama and he has done everything they wanted.
They need to SSTTTFFFUUUU and march on 1600 PA Ave. if they are not happy.
They need to cut their hair too.
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So it is WS's fault that the public servants, elected by the people are for sale to the highest bidder? Maybe people should spend a little time investigating who they vote for.
Oh, WE both know that these Al Qaeda Marxists know EXACTLY who they are voting for, but WE listen to Rush.
WE are in a select group of the highly intelligent.
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And get off their
Lazy asses and get a job first
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So it is WS's fault that the public servants, elected by the people are for sale to the highest bidder? Maybe people should spend a little time investigating who they vote for.
No but its Wall STreets fault that they take advantage of it and corrupt our country and ultimately destroys it
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Oh, WE both know that these Al Qaeda Marxists know EXACTLY who they are voting for, but WE listen to Rush.
WE are in a select group of the highly intelligent.
Whats your point? Just post random shit?
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Oh, WE both know that these Al Qaeda Marxists know EXACTLY who they are voting for, but WE listen to Rush.
WE are in a select group of the highly intelligent.
Neocons= If Wall Street/Governement asks them to bend over they say how much
And yet they call the rest of us socialists. Epic denial
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I would bet that at least 75% of these fools voted for Obama and he has done everything they wanted.
They need to SSTTTFFFUUUU and march on 1600 PA Ave. if they are not happy.
What sense would that make, considering that Obama is a sleeper cell terrorist and they are all undercover Marxists?
Let's face it, the entire country is conspiring against itself.
I'm pretty sure Abraham Lincoln (who hated freedom) set the ball a rolling but I don't have the 'hard' evidence yet.
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No but its Wall STreets fault that they take advantage of it and corrupt our country and ultimately destroys it
Really? So just keep electing the same assholes, some die in office of old age, and blame wall street because the politicians just can't help themselves? Perfect example of our zero responsibility society
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Really? So just keep electing the same assholes, some die in office, and blame wall street because the politicians just can't help themselves? Perfect example of our zero responsibility society
That's exactly what the commies want you to think.
I guess the terrorists have already won.
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Well the Big coorps and their henchmen in DC is in many ways comparable to the British
They both fuck the average american
Please don`t make that comparison. Its highly inaccurate and does not justify any rationale for these protesters whatsoever.
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Kazan is right gear and whork.
Our elected officials are obligated to be accountable to the voters not WS, banks or corps.
WS and company are in the business to make as much money as they can. That will never stop. Only the government can stop that.
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Really? So just keep electing the same assholes, some die in office of old age, and blame wall street because the politicians just can't help themselves? Perfect example of our zero responsibility society
I blame the govern as much as Wall S i have said numerous times they are linked together you cant seperate them anymore
And the reason we dont get other politicians is because money rules the nominations and guess who has loads of money
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Kazan is right gear and whork.
Our elected officials are obligated to be accountable to the voters not WS, banks or corps.
WS and company are in the business to make as much money as they can. That will never stop. Only the government can stop that.
You do realize Wall Street is open for anyone to invest. You want the Government to take away a person`s right to invest their money in companies they support and then penalize them for making money? I will have none of that.
Take your greedy hands somewhere else.
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Kazan is right gear and whork.
Our elected officials are obligated to be accountable to the voters not WS, banks or corps.
WS and company are in the business to make as much money as they can. That will never stop. Only the government can stop that.
In a perfect world yes but the candidates who win are the ones with the most money and that is you guessed the coorporate world
I vote RP by the way our last stand
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I blame the govern as much as Wall S i have said numerous times they are linked together you cant seperate them anymore
And the reason we dont get other politicians is because money rules the nominations and guess who has loads of money
Well then you may as well throw the media in here as well, since they only invite who they want to debates..........., face it the news is no longer the news, but a outlet to shape public opinion.
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You do realize Wall Street is open for anyone to invest. You want the Government to take away a person`s right to invest their money in companies they support and then penalize them for making money? I will have none of that.
Take your greedy hands somewhere else.
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You need to pay more attention.
Start with watching "meltdown". Again if you already have.
No one is calling for restricting investment. Ffs
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You do realize Wall Street is open for anyone to invest. You want the Government to take away a person`s right to invest their money in companies they support and then penalize them for making money? I will have none of that.
Take your greedy hands somewhere else.
No i dont want that i want a society where our elected officials is elected because they have the best vision for the country not because they are bought
Im not talking about "closing" Wall Street stop making up lies when you dont have anymore arguments left
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You need to pay more attention.
Start with watching "meltdown". Again if you already have.
No one is calling for restricting investment. Ffs
Oh Bullshit. These morons want to topple Wall Street from its foundations and/or shackle it with such regulation that Shareholders will suffer the burden while the jealous schmucks continue to whine about their student debt.
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Honestly, I prefer politicians to be Wall Street friendly. Wall Street has been very kind to me and I will never forget it and will continue to support and utilize it.
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You do realize Wall Street is open for anyone to invest. You want the Government to take away a person`s right to invest their money in companies they support and then penalize them for making money? I will have none of that.
Take your greedy hands somewhere else.
I have to agree with this, companies are organized to make money that is what they do, that is what their shareholders demand.
Everytime the government passes some legislation to effect the private sector, you can bet 10 maybe 20 years down the road more legislation will have to be passed to undo the mess of unintended consequences created by the first.
Now what the private sector can't do is demand capitalism when they are making money ( and taking unnecessary risk), then demand socialism in the form of government/tax payer bailout when the risk goes belly up. Thrive or fail on your business model not the backs of the tax payer
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Well then you may as well throw the media in here as well, since they only invite who they want to debates..........., face it the news is no longer the news, but a outlet to shape public opinion.
Of course thay are just look at the way they threat Ron Paul
He is a real free market man who wants to seperate money and politics that why the media left and right ignore him
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Oh Bullshit. These morons want to topple Wall Street from its foundations and/or shackle it with such regulation that Shareholders will suffer the burden while the jealous schmucks continue to whine about their student debt.
You do know there is more than one person in the protesters right?
Different people want different things
And im fine with business and money but not when they buy our politicians
My beef with Wall is that they are using corruption, lobbyists to destroy the middle class
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I have to agree with this, companies are organized to make money that is what they do, that is what their shareholders demand.
Everytime the government passes some legislation to effect the private sector, you can bet 10 maybe 20 years down the road more legislation will have to be passed to undo the mess of unintended consequences created by the first.
Now what the private sector can't do is demand capitalism when they are making money ( and taking unnecessary risk), then demand socialism in the form of government/tax payer bailout when the risk goes belly up. Thrive or fail on your business model not the backs of the tax payer
Their share holders demand them to use lots of money to corrupt DC? I doubt it
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You do know there is more than one person in the protesters right?
Different people want different things
And im fine with business and money but not when they buy our politicians
My beef with Wall is that they are using corruption, lobbyists to destroy the middle class
You do realize Ron Paul wants little or no regulation of wall street correct and the economy correct?
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Their share holders demand them to use lots of money to corrupt DC? I doubt it
That is completely irrelevant, DC doesn't have to take the money, they do it of their own accord.
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Oh Bullshit. These morons want to topple Wall Street from its foundations and/or shackle it with such regulation that Shareholders will suffer the burden while the jealous schmucks continue to whine about their student debt.
No, its just misplaced rage and blame. All they most want is jobs.
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You do realize Ron Paul wants little or no regulation of wall street correct and the economy correct?
Yes and i agree. No bailouts and when these companies go down they go down. Sound good doesnt it.
I dont want Wall S regulation.
I want the money out of politics
I dont want money out of business
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No, its just misplaced rage and blame. All they most want is jobs.
Then they should clean up and go hand in hand w resumes to these businesses.
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That is completely irrelevant, DC doesn't have to take the money, they do it of their own accord.
I understand your line of thinking but it only works if Wall Street and the Govern are seperated.
They are not look who is calling the shots
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Shocker. Obama’s Top Political Advisor Directly Linked to Occupy Wall Street Protests
Gateway Pundit ^ | Oct. 11, 2011 | Jim Hoft
Obama’s ACORN operative in the White House Patrick Gaspard, a former Working Families Party associate, is helping shape domestic policy–
Obama political advisor Patrick Gaspard holds the same White House position his Bush-era predecessor, Karl Rove, did. But before he was the White House political czar he worked in several far left organizations as activist and agitator. NLPC.org reported:
One of the more disturbing aspects of the Obama-ACORN connection is that the White House political affairs director is one Patrick Gaspard.
Gaspard doesn’t register on the media radar screen in the way that his immediate Bush-era predecessor, Karl Rove, did. But as the New Orleans-based ACORN has been implicated in a host of illegal schemes ranging from voter registration fraud to embezzlement to tax evasion, he may get there. That’s because prior to assuming his current job, Gaspard, at least according to ACORN founder Wade Rathke, had been political director for the New York City chapter of ACORN under Bertha Lewis, who last year replaced Rathke as the group’s chief organizer and CEO. What’s more, he’s worked closely with the ACORN-controlled Working Families Party and the largest local within the Service Employees International Union.
This weekend the Working Families Party of New York, Gaspard’s organization, placed an ad on Craig’s list for paid activists to fight Wall Street.
Here’s their ad:
The Working Families Party (WFP) (www.workingfamiliesparty .org) is New York’s most energetic, independent and progressive political party. Formed in 1998 by a grassroots coalition of community organizations, neighborhood activists, and labor unions, we came together to build a society that works for all of us, not just Wall Street CEOs and the well-connected. WFP is independent from corporate and government funding and in-addition we are community based; community funded and equally uninfluenced by both major parties. Our agenda focuses on economic and social justice, corporate accountability, job creation, environmental protection, and investment in education and healthcare.
For the past twelve years the WFP has been at the fore front of progressive politics,
Leading the fight and helping to frame the debate. The WFP has a proud record of fighting for issues that matter and has been instrumental in implementing key pieces of legislation such as Raising New York’s Minimum Wage, Enacting Living Wage Laws, Creating Thousands of Jobs In the Green Economy, Passing Healthcare Reforms on the Local Level, Fighting for Affordable Housing, Keeping Tuition Costs Low, A Progressive Tax Code, Reliable/Cost Effective Public Transit System, Public Financing Of Elections and Corporate Accountability . In addition, we have an unapologetic stance on supporting and pushing good candidates to enact progressive legislation
The WFP is seeking immediate hires.
You must be an energetic communicator, with a passion for social and economic justice.
Only outgoing, articulate dedicated, determined candidates will be considered for the positions.
For those candidates that qualify WFP offers substantial paid-training provided by senior leadership, on varied issues such as: advocacy, public speaking, mobilizing, fundraising, networking and organizing. We invest in passionate people with excellent communication skills and a full benefits package is offered to those candidates that qualify. In addition, there is opportunity for advancement and travel to our satellite chapters and out of state affiliates.
This is not a policy job! Through direct action you will be shaping NY state politics for the next 20 years.
If you care about New York and want to help educate and mobilize around legislative campaigns-then we look forward to hearing from you! Apply at http://www.workingfamiliesparty.org/jobs/.
What a coincidence! The organization run by current White House political director Patrick Gaspard is paying far left activists to continue the protests against Wall Street. No wonder Barack Obama supports the far left protest movement!
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This is getting a lot of attention. Great work by the protesters.
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This is getting a lot of attention. Great work by the protesters.
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Here's The Real Reason Why Occupy Wall Street Protesters Aren't Getting Kicked Out Of Zuccotti Park
Robert Johnson | Oct. 11, 2011, 12:00 PM | 1,207 | 10
www.businessinsider.com
Coming on the heels of the Solyndra debacle, the Obama administration has just approved a $168.9 million loan guarantee for the Granite Reliable wind farm project owned by Brookfield Asset Management (BAM).
Among its many holdings BAM owns Brookfield Renewable Power, which owns the Granite Reliable and it also owns Brookfield Office Properties, whose holdings include the now famous Zuccotti Park.
The Department of Energy finalized the loan guarantee less than a week after Occupy Wall Street protesters took to Zuccotti Park, and with the Obama administration's Tuesday endorsement of the protests, rumors are starting to circulate that this could be the reason Brookfield is allowing protesters to remain on its property.
The Granite Reliable Power Project under construction in Coos Bay, New Hampshire is the state's largest wind farm and the New Hampshire Union Leader questions why Brookfield would need federal subsidies at all, particularly following the bankruptcy of Solyndra.
Mayor Bloomberg's announcement Monday that protesters could remain as long as they liked, also raised a few eyebrows and it turns out he has a personal connection to Brookfield as well. The mayor's longtime domestic partner Diana Taylor is on the Board of Directors at Brookfield Properties along with John E. Zuccotti himself.
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These commie scumbags are useful idiots of obama and nothing more.
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You're gonna get idiots no matter what. I don't agree with actions like that. But the fact remains, people are watching and people are talking about it. The protest has done its job. Kudos to democracy.
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You're gonna get idiots no matter what. I don't agree with actions like that. But the fact remains, people are watching and people are talking about it. The protest has done its job. Kudos to democracy.
I assumed that picture was of 333 himself
hasn't he said many times how much he hates the police.
just another group of his fellow americans that he hates
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This is getting a lot of attention. Great work by the protesters.
Yep
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Are those dockers?
If so, its ok what he is doing.
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Yep
I loved how fox and other media tried to down play it at first, and now its exploded into this huge movement. All from ultra left wing adbusters.org
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I loved how fox and other media tried to down play it at first, and now its exploded into this huge movement. All from ultra left wing adbusters.org
So what is it about? I'm still waiting for an actual message other than Wall street bad.
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I loved how fox and other media tried to down play it at first, and now its exploded into this huge movement. All from ultra left wing adbusters.org
movement? of what? a bunch of leftist hippies who already voted for maobama in 2008 and will do so again in 2012 and drive more indes to the GOP?
LOL.
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So what is it about? I'm still waiting for an actual message other than Wall street bad.
I don't think there is a coherent message. Its truly remarkable how so many groups and ideas have come together into this outpouring of frustration. There are people from both political parties there, some fringe messages etc. It's what democracy is all about. Sometimes there isn't a unified message at first, but the debate needs to be had.
Alternatives need to be found to the current system, what they are i don't know. But the discussion needs to be had and these people are forcing the US to face that.
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And considering all the negative press this movement is getting its remarkable that it seems to be growing.
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This is getting a lot of attention. Great work by the protesters.
Yup
The atention is what counts to me
The protesters and where they are from is indifferent for me..
That people rise up is what matters
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Yup
The atention is what counts to me
The protesters and where they are from is indifferent for me..
That people rise up is what matters
Agreed - Commies, druggies, dopers, whiners, hippies RISE UP!
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Yup
The atention is what counts to me
The protesters and where they are from is indifferent for me..
That people rise up is what matters
That's fine, but they are protesting in the wrong place, does anyone think Wall Street gives a shit they are protesting? They don't get to vote and elect Wall Street.
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That's fine, but they are protesting in the wrong place, does anyone think Wall Street gives a shit they are protesting? They don't get to vote and elect Wall Street.
What's good though is that people are paying some attention and a discussion is ensuing over what the real source of the problems are.
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What's good though is that people are paying some attention and a discussion is ensuing over what the real source of the problems are.
I agree with this..people are getting too worked up over this
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I agree with this..people are getting too worked up over this
Agreed
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Agreed
WTF is that? Zombies? Give me a fucking break, looks like a bunch of self important jagoffs who think life just isn't fair, disrupting people who actually work for a living
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Agreed
Agreed???..you're the main instigator...LOL
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And considering all the negative press this movement is getting its remarkable that it seems to be growing.
Yep it'll just keep growing. Once the snow falls though, we'll see if they still stay.
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I agree with this..people are getting too worked up over this
Not what i meant at all.
People need to get real worked up over it (Issues with our government being bought)
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Not what i meant at all.
People need to get real worked up over it (Issues with our government being bought)
Nah lets instead get angry at the protesters because some have face paint. Its sad really sad
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Nah lets instead get angry at the protesters because some have face paint. Its sad really sad
Where were these people in 2008 - 2010?
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Nah lets instead get angry at the protesters because some have face paint. Its sad really sad
Whats fucking sad is you can't see the real problem is the Government being for sale to the highest bidder, instead you want to concentrate on people who have no clue why they are protesting other than to protest. We are all just supposed to give them a pat on the back and say good job, we don't what you want, but good job
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Where were these people in 2008 - 2010?
I dont know, what has that got to do with anything?
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Whats fucking sad is you can't see the real problem is the Government being for sale to the highest bidder, instead you want to concentrate on people who have no clue why they are protesting other than to protest. We are all just supposed to give them a pat on the back and say good job, we don't what you want, but good job
Do you know where half of Obamas crew worked before?
And why is Ben Bernanke still holding his position
And Poulsen??
You know who Geithner is
You are blind if you dont see the connection
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Do you know where half of Obamas crew worked before?
And why is Ben Bernanke still holding his position
And Poulsen??
You know who Geithner is
You are blind if you dont see the connection
I am well aware where these guys worked before, that just re-enforces the point that the government is the problem. How exactly did these people get their positions in the government? I sure as hell don't remember any election for them. They were appointed, who appointed them and/or kept them in their positions? The government.
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I dont know, what has that got to do with anything?
Guess you moron!
This whole "movement" is nothing but a fucking joke orchestrated by Obama to mask his horrendous presidency.
The pieces of filth in this movement need to STFU because they did not say a word when Obama bailed out AIG, bailed out GS, appointed all the cronies to his admn, passed obamacare, passed dodd frank, took over the school loans, started new wars, etc etc.
Only the most left wing deluded moron would fall for this sham.
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Do you know where half of Obamas crew worked before?
And why is Ben Bernanke still holding his position
And Poulsen??
You know who Geithner is
You are blind if you dont see the connection
Again asshole - MANY OF US SCREAMED FROM DAY ONE OVER THIS AND WERE SHOUTED DOWN BY THE OBAMA VOTERS LIKE YOURSELF!
Go protest Obama - that is where the problem is you hack.
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Guess you moron!
This whole "movement" is nothing but a fucking joke orchestrated by Obama to mask his horrendous presidency.
The pieces of filth in this movement need to STFU because they did not say a word when Obama bailed out AIG, bailed out GS, appointed all the cronies to his admn, passed obamacare, passed dodd frank, took over the school loans, started new wars, etc etc.
Only the most left wing deluded moron would fall for this sham.
Im pretty sure some off them protest because of the bailouts and the fact that Obamas is Wall S puppet sure those you agree with so why defend Wall ST?
And if some of the protesters a wacked who cares? Are you the guardian of morality now? And on behalf of Wall ST? WTF
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How can any of you support this?
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How can any of you support this?
I dont and i dont have to.. his reasons are his reasons
You think we all have to agree? Thats not how the world works
This brings attention and if it goes on long enough people might start to wonder how come half of Wall is in govern and vica verca.. the corruption from LIB and REPUB
And thats more important than any agenda
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He is one of the main people behind this and he is stating his goal is to collapse the economy!
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He is one of the main people behind this and he is stating his goal is to collapse the economy!
So he is a nut? The world is full of them
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I dont and i dont have to.. his reasons are his reasons
You think we all have to agree? Thats not how the world works
This brings attention and if it goes on long enough people might start to wonder how come half of Wall is in govern and vica verca.. the corruption from LIB and REPUB
And thats more important than any agenda
I can tell you why have of WS works in government, because they are appointed by the government. You can rail all you want about WS, but they aren't elected to any position in the government. You want to hold some responsible for that march on DC.
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Unless the people protesting are good citizens who wear dockers and say the pledge every morning we can't get behind their cause even though it's valid. (although a bit misdirected)
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Unless the people protesting are good citizens who wear dockers and say the pledge every morning we can't get behind their cause even though it's valid. (although a bit misdirected)
What is their cause? They don't even know
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Unless the people protesting are good citizens who wear dockers and say the pledge every morning we can't get behind their cause even though it's valid. (although a bit misdirected)
When one of the main supporters says his goal is to collapse the economy, you know you are not in good company.
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This is the only guy speaking anything close to common sense down there.
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What is their cause? They don't even know
they think WS is manipulating the government and f-ing everyone over by sending jobs outside the USA and their drum they beat is the same ole liberal bitching about the rich getting richer.
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Guess you moron!
This whole "movement" is nothing but a fucking joke orchestrated by Obama to mask his horrendous presidency.
The pieces of filth in this movement need to STFU because they did not say a word when Obama bailed out AIG, bailed out GS, appointed all the cronies to his admn, passed obamacare, passed dodd frank, took over the school loans, started new wars, etc etc.
Only the most left wing deluded moron would fall for this sham.
proof?
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Unless the people protesting are good citizens who wear dockers and say the pledge every morning we can't get behind their cause even though it's valid. (although a bit misdirected)
QFT
and misdirected is the understatement of the year-- It's downright moronic. The ones who aren't homeless bums looking to get a free bagel, or SEIU migrant workers who were bused in to hold signs they can't even read, or disgusting slobs shitting on police cars, fugitives groping people ( see today's NY Post), loser hippies taking drugs who think they are at Woodstock ( several overdoses since the party began), degenerates having sex in public-- are either so ignorant about the concepts they are protesting about it's pathetic, or are legitimate radical fringe lunatics who want to destroy America. Of course, the Democratic party thinks this demographic is perfect and should be applauded.
It's every piece of shit, leftist propaganda group feeding at the same trough. The anarchists, communists, socialists, Econazi's, hippies, CT'ers, union members and bloodsucking leeches mixed in with brainwashed college students, trust fund brats and journalists taking pictures.
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Yeah its a great big hand job by the democrats on this.
PS George although i fight with you sometimes, i love the way you write. lol.
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I can tell you why have of WS works in government, because they are appointed by the government. You can rail all you want about WS, but they aren't elected to any position in the government. You want to hold some responsible for that march on DC.
I would enjoy a march on DC even more but i have to take what we got
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I can tell you why have of WS works in government, because they are appointed by the government. You can rail all you want about WS, but they aren't elected to any position in the government. You want to hold some responsible for that march on DC.
How do you get elected? Money
Who has got the money to get you elected?
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they think WS is manipulating the government and f-ing everyone over by sending jobs outside the USA and their drum they beat is the same ole liberal bitching about the rich getting richer.
The government can only be manipulated if it allows itself to be manipulated. That seems to be is being missed here. Everyone acts like the government was there one day doing it job and then all of the sudden WS took them all by surprise and is in charge now
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When one of the main supporters says his goal is to collapse the economy, you know you are not in good company.
So he speaks for everyone of the protesters?
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The government can only be manipulated if it allows itself to be manipulated. That seems to be is being missed here. Everyone acts like the government was there one day doing it job and then all of the sudden WS took them all by surprise and is in charge now
That's why money needs to be taken out of politics some how.
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The government can only be manipulated if it allows itself to be manipulated. That seems to be is being missed here. Everyone acts like the government was there one day doing it job and then all of the sudden WS took them all by surprise and is in charge now
What?
Wall ST = Money has always been a major factor in politics
Its nothing new
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How do you get elected? Money
Who has got the money to get you elected?
You can redirect anyway you want, doesn't matter. The government are elected officials, public servants, WS is not.
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You can redirect anyway you want, doesn't matter. The government are elected officials, public servants, WS is not.
No but nobody is protesting in DC but this is still the next best thing so i support it
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That's why money needs to be taken out of politics some how.
Fine, but how is that going to happen? Going down to WS and protesting? I think not, because the people with the money could care less about some protest. It has to start and end with the government plain and simple.
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No but nobody is protesting in DC but this is still the next best thing so i support it
That just shows that they have no clue what they are doing. WS could give a shit about the protest other than the inconveniece of getting around. Now DC are a bunch of carper baggers who's very survival depends on getting the most votes. Who do you think is going to listen?
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Fine, but how is that going to happen? Going down to WS and protesting? I think not, because the people with the money could care less about some protest. It has to start and end with the government plain and simple.
Agreed. But the good thing about this is is that it is gaining attention and a discussion about it is ensuing.
Like i said earlier on some other thread or this one. the protests are misdirected.
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Yeah its a great big hand job by the democrats on this.
PS George although i fight with you sometimes, i love the way you write. lol.
he may write well..but the content is bad ;)
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Fine, but how is that going to happen? Going down to WS and protesting? I think not, because the people with the money could care less about some protest. It has to start and end with the government plain and simple.
Yes but we keep electing the same people unfortunetly
The power of the media
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Yes but we keep electing the same people unfortunetly
The power of the media
You voted for obama knowing he was bankrolled by wall street, what does that say about you?
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You voted for obama knowing he was bankrolled by wall street, what does that say about you?
I didnt vote Obama
You support Obamas employers what does that say about you?
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I didnt vote Obama
You support Obamas employers what does that say about you?
LMFAO! I was one of the few on this board against TARP at the time. Look it up fool.
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Bbbbooooommmmm!!!!!!!
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LMFAO! I was one of the few on this board against TARP at the time. Look it up fool.
Yes i know what happened to you?
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This is the only guy speaking anything close to common sense down there.
He does make a lot of sense. unlike most of these hippies at these protests
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Yeah its a great big hand job by the democrats on this.
PS George although i fight with you sometimes, i love the way you write. lol.
Hands down the most articulate poster we have - usually with solid, hard-hitting points.
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Well if "some" of they protesters don't fit into a certain standard let's ridicule the whole thing and let our government continue to be bought and paid for, used and rented by the banks and WS. Because who the hell do these peoplel think they are protesting WS while many of them have consumer goods.
The only way to legitimize their cuase is to:
1. Not look like a hippie. Instead they should all be wearing dockers and button down shirts.
2. They should not talk about their problems as it relates to their cause. They should all be independently wealthy.
3. They should all be ditto heads
4. A maximum of 2 colors per out fit
5. All their signs and posters should use helvetica fonts.
And their cause should ultimately blame liberals.
It'd be nice if you stopped pointing fingers from your throne and went out there and protested. ::)
Showing up there with your minority message will accomplish nothing beyond further empowering these protests and the Democratic party they serve.
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It'd be nice if you stopped pointing fingers from your throne and went out there and protested. ::)
Showing up there with your minority message will accomplish nothing beyond further empowering these protests and the Democratic party they serve.
Go back and re-read every post i have made on this matter. You'll see its pretty consistent.
For you its seems to be very hard to understand anything beyond lib vs. conservative. You are always ready to ridicule anything outside of conservative ideals especially if there are libs involved in any way. Just my impression.
Our problems supersede dem vs. repub because the problems infect both parties. The basic theme of these people is that they don't have jobs and are in massive debt and are blaming WS for it. While misdirected, what this protest does is call attention to some of these problems and help motivate general public discussion. that's why although i do not subscribe to many of the protesters political alignment or ideals i do support the general idea of their protest.
Now why is that so hard for you to understand? Or is that all you are about? Just attack and ridicule?
Com on BF. Can you honestly say our system is working fine and its really just the libs fault?
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Go back and re-read every post i have made on this matter. You'll see its pretty consistent.
For you its seems to be very hard to understand anything beyond lib vs. conservative. You are always ready to ridicule anything outside of conservative ideals especially if there are libs involved in any way. Just my impression.
Our problems supersede dem vs. repub because the problems infect both parties. The basic theme of these people is that they don't have jobs and are in massive debt and are blaming WS for it. While misdirected, what this protest does is call attention to some of these problems and help motivate general public discussion. that's why although i do not subscribe to many of the protesters political alignment or ideals i do support the general idea of their protest.
Now why is that so hard for you to understand? Or is that all you are about? Just attack and ridicule?
Com on BF. Can you honestly say our system is working fine and its really just the libs fault?
your impression is quite correct
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Go back and re-read every post i have made on this matter. You'll see its pretty consistent.
For you its seems to be very hard to understand anything beyond lib vs. conservative. You are always ready to ridicule anything outside of conservative ideals especially if there are libs involved in any way. Just my impression.
Our problems supersede dem vs. repub because the problems infect both parties. The basic theme of these people is that they don't have jobs and are in massive debt and are blaming WS for it. While misdirected, what this protest does is call attention to some of these problems and help motivate general public discussion. that's why although i do not subscribe to many of the protesters political alignment or ideals i do support the general idea of their protest.
Now why is that so hard for you to understand? Or is that all you are about? Just attack and ridicule?
Com on BF. Can you honestly say our system is working fine and its really just the libs fault?
Lib versus conservative? Why would I care about those when I fit neither paradigm? I'm ready to ridicule the policies that have pushed this country to the brink of collapse. I don't give a fuck about Bush because I live in the here and now. Something a lot of people on this board would do well to emulate.
Nor do I care about parties. I vote on an issue-by-issue basis. The only issue that matters right now is the economy. These scumbags protesting trying to curry favor with their Democratic overlords won't fix it, thus they can fuck off.
I'm sorry that you refuse to accept that this entire movement has been co-opted by the Democratic party with the help of the MSM. I refuse to empower the people like Nancy Pelosi who have played in a role in destroying this country.
You would be much better off starting your own protest with a different name.
your impression is quite correct
Yes, lots of conservatives out there support gay marriage and abortion. ::)'
By the way, I'm a registered independent. I have no reason to swear allegiance to either party like you and Ozmo do as both sides need to be guillotined in the streets.
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It'd be nice if you stopped pointing fingers from your throne and went out there and protested. ::)
Showing up there with your minority message will accomplish nothing beyond further empowering these protests and the Democratic party they serve.
It would be nice if you got a job and quit posting altogether.
We don't go to work to support you, you know?
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Nor do I care about parties.
False
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It would be nice if you got a job and quit posting altogether.
We don't go to work to support you, you know?
It's ironic considering you, much like Whork, are consistently on here firing away during working hours.
You claim to be an English teacher. Tutoring an hour or two a day does not a career make. ::)
333 owns his own firm. Can't say the same for you. So what's your excuse? You either work a shitty job that allows you time to post on the internet or you're a deadbeat benefit leech.
False
How so? I supported Obama. You can find quite a few posts of mine attacking 333 for not giving him a fair shake. I gave him a fair shake for 18 months. All I got in return was 9.1% unemployment and $15 trillion in debt.
There isn't a logical reason to still support Obama. He has done nothing to help this country.
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It's ironic considering you're on here firing away during working hours.
You claim to be an English teacher. Tutoring an hour or two a day does not a career make. ::)
333 owns his own firm. Can't say the same for you. So what's your excuse? You either work a shitty job that allows you time to post on the internet or you're a deadbeat benefit leech.
How so? I supported Obama. You can find quite a few posts of mine attacking 333 for not giving him a fair shake. I gave him a fair shake for 18 months. All I got was 9.1% unemployment and $15 trillion in debt.
There isn't a logical reason to continually support Obama. He has literally done nothing to help this country.
It's called gainful employment. Look into it.
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It's called gainful employment. Look into it.
I experience it every day. You, on the other hand, find time to post on Getbig.
A worthwhile career. Look into it.
Getbig is crawling with jobless deadbeats. You're not alone. Embrace it.
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It's ironic considering you, much like Whork, are consistently on here firing away during working hours.
You claim to be an English teacher. Tutoring an hour or two a day does not a career make. ::)
333 owns his own firm. Can't say the same for you. So what's your excuse? You either work a shitty job that allows you time to post on the internet or you're a deadbeat benefit leech.
How so? I supported Obama. You can find quite a few posts of mine attacking 333 for not giving him a fair shake. I gave him a fair shake for 18 months. All I got in return was 9.1% unemployment and $15 trillion in debt.
There isn't a logical reason to still support Obama. He has done nothing to help this country.
I gave him even longer... a solid 24 months... 2 years and in that time... absolutely nothing has improved.
It's quite sad... I had high hopes that someone who wasn't a career politician could get something done right for America... My faith was misplaced.
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I experience it every day. You, on the other hand, find time to post on Getbig.
A worthwhile career. Look into it.
Getbig is crawling with jobless deadbeats. You're not alone. Embrace it.
Can't you at least find something part time? We all know you lack the sufficient force that which would pull you from the tractor beam of your mother's basement, but we were hoping you could at least ease the burden on the taxpayers of the USA.
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Lib versus conservative? Why would I care about those when I fit neither paradigm? I'm ready to ridicule the policies that have pushed this country to the brink of collapse. I don't give a fuck about Bush because I live in the here and now. Something a lot of people on this board would do well to emulate.
Nor do I care about parties. I vote on an issue-by-issue basis. The only issue that matters right now is the economy. These scumbags protesting trying to curry favor with their Democratic overlords won't fix it, thus they can fuck off.
I'm sorry that you refuse to accept that this entire movement has been co-opted by the Democratic party with the help of the MSM. I refuse to empower the people like Nancy Pelosi who have played in a role in destroying this country.
You would be much better off starting your own protest with a different name.
Ok fair enough. However, i never see you questioning conservative policies or practices. Not that you haven't, i haven't read every one of your posts.
I think the democrats are wanking these guys off and using it to further their agendas. Standard political maneuvering. I don't care.
BUSH is part of this, he signed off the initial bailout in 5 days. A conservative administration bowing down to banks. Its not a blame BUSH thing for me as much as its a revelation of how bad it has got. Of course blame goes to Nancy, Barney, Obama etc also. Geez as you say OB doubled down hard core on it.
As far as a movement? i am looking into the Money out of politics amendment proposal ATM. I like it in general, but its flawed and I don't have all the details and info yet.
:( And I get it, lots of stupid name calling all the time so i can't fully just blame you for going on the attack sometimes as shown here in the last few posts.
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Yeah but Bush wasn't a conservative..he was a big Gov republican. Our argument from the get go has been that Obama had planned to do everything he's done. He wants to rasie taxes, Obamacare, new and abusive energy laws etc. He said it during the campaign. Why the hell would anybody who's even a middle or the road Dem or Repub vote for this guy. He is a career politician. He lived in the Chicago machine....he was active in the ins and outs even before he ever became a state Senator. This Wall Street shit is another sham. These people have no clue and we're gonna end up in London style riots in New York before its done. Atleast in Boston the cops have stepped in before these idiots did to much damage. Does anybody think Rudy would have allowed this crap to go as long as it has.
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I gave him even longer... a solid 24 months... 2 years and in that time... absolutely nothing has improved.
It's quite sad... I had high hopes that someone who wasn't a career politician could get something done right for America... My faith was misplaced.
We got suckered. Hook, line and sinker. Won't happen again, though.
Ok fair enough. However, i never see you questioning conservative policies or practices. Not that you haven't, i haven't read every one of your posts.
I think the democrats are wanking these guys off and using it to further their agendas. Standard political maneuvering. I don't care.
BUSH is part of this, he signed off the initial bailout in 5 days. A conservative administration bowing down to banks. Its not a blame BUSH thing for me as much as its a revelation of how bad it has got. Of course blame goes to Nancy, Barney, Obama etc also. Geez as you say OB doubled down hard core on it.
As far as a movement? i am looking into the Money out of politics amendment proposal ATM. I like it in general, but its flawed and I don't have all the details and info yet.
:( And I get it, lots of stupid name calling all the time so i can't fully just blame you for going on the attack sometimes as shown here in the last few posts.
I haven't criticized them recently because there's nothing to criticize. They've had the house for less than a year. The Democrats still control the Senate and the Presidency. I don't buy the "Party of No" line that the Dems love throwing around because, as it has been shown time and time again, anything the Repubs in the House have passed has been immediately shelved by Reid. Can't blame them for not having enough power to override him or Downgrade.
With regards to the issue du jour (tax increases), my stance has more to do with not wanting to see the government piss away more of this country's citizen's money. You and I both know that every dollar collected from increased taxes will not go towards paying down our debts. It will go right back out the door to another Solyndra and Downgrade's union thugs. No thanks.
There should be a flat tax rate and everyone should have skin in the game. The govt. collects over $2 trillion dollars in tax revenues. You're really telling me they can't find a way to live within that range? We're $15 trillion in debt ($60 trillion when you look at the unfunded liabilities). We do not need to spend more. Govt. should be forced to keep spending under 20% GDP (with very few exceptions), as well.
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Don't know HH6, but IMO until we get a handle on money in politics nothing will change.
What BUSH did wasn't about big government, it was about government getting involved with business and bailing them out. Something that's akin to you supporting gays in the military.
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It's ironic considering you, much like Whork, are consistently on here firing away during working hours.
You claim to be an English teacher. Tutoring an hour or two a day does not a career make. ::)
333 owns his own firm. Can't say the same for you. So what's your excuse? You either work a shitty job that allows you time to post on the internet or you're a deadbeat benefit leech.
How so? I supported Obama. You can find quite a few posts of mine attacking 333 for not giving him a fair shake. I gave him a fair shake for 18 months. All I got in return was 9.1% unemployment and $15 trillion in debt.
There isn't a logical reason to still support Obama. He has done nothing to help this country.
Then i stand corrected. my bad
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Then i stand corrected. my bad
Short memories on here. ;D
Economists will say that the type of moves Obama made usually take 6-18 months for the effects to be seen. I argued with 333 that 18 months would be a good barometer to see whether his policies would help this country. Simply put, they didn't so I stopped supporting him.
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It's ironic considering you, much like Whork, are consistently on here firing away during working hours.
You claim to be an English teacher. Tutoring an hour or two a day does not a career make. ::)
333 owns his own firm. Can't say the same for you. So what's your excuse? You either work a shitty job that allows you time to post on the internet or you're a deadbeat benefit leech.
How so? I supported Obama. You can find quite a few posts of mine attacking 333 for not giving him a fair shake. I gave him a fair shake for 18 months. All I got in return was 9.1% unemployment and $15 trillion in debt.
There isn't a logical reason to still support Obama. He has done nothing to help this country.
This is still in question
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This is still in question
As are the posts of me claiming that Gadhafi never harmed anyone you say exist. ::)
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I experience it every day. You, on the other hand, find time to post on Getbig.
A worthwhile career. Look into it.
Getbig is crawling with jobless deadbeats. You're not alone. Embrace it.
FUNNY!!! :)
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Can't you at least find something part time? We all know you lack the sufficient force that which would pull you from the tractor beam of your mother's basement, but we were hoping you could at least ease the burden on the taxpayers of the USA.
ANOTHER FUNNY!!! :)..good one
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It's ironic considering you, much like Whork, are consistently on here firing away during working hours.
You claim to be an English teacher. Tutoring an hour or two a day does not a career make. ::)
333 owns his own firm. Can't say the same for you. So what's your excuse? You either work a shitty job that allows you time to post on the internet or you're a deadbeat benefit leech.
How so? I supported Obama. You can find quite a few posts of mine attacking 333 for not giving him a fair shake. I gave him a fair shake for 18 months. All I got in return was 9.1% unemployment and $15 trillion in debt.
There isn't a logical reason to still support Obama. He has done nothing to help this country.
Oh, OK. Now I see where you are intellectually. This is a 'game changer'.
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I experience it every day. You, on the other hand, find time to post on Getbig.
A worthwhile career. Look into it.
Getbig is crawling with jobless deadbeats. You're not alone. Embrace it.
Ehh you have 17000 posts retard
You are the one who is unemployed bitch
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Ehh you have 17000 posts retard
You are the one who is unemployed bitch
You mad.
You have close to a dozen gimmick accounts, each with thousands of posts. You also spend the working day conversing with yourself on said gimmicks and even giving yourself "backup" on a forum that has roughly 10 people actively posting on it.
Get a job, deadbeat. You and GayBear could probably find gainful employment at your local McDonald's.
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Occupy L.A. Speaker: Violence will be Necessary to Achieve Our Goals
Pajamas Media ^ | 10/11/2011 | Zombie
Posted on October 12, 2011 2:15:12 AM EDT by MeNeFrego
"Citizen journalist Ringo captured this speaker at the Occupy Los Angeles camp a few days ago letting the cat out of the bag: After dismissing nonviolence as a dead end, he admits that for the Occupiers to achieve their goals, violence and bloodshed will be necessary:
Here’s a transcript, starting at 32 seconds into the video:
Occupy L.A. Speaker: “One of the speakers said the solution is nonviolent movement. No, my friend. I’ll give you two examples: French Revolution, and Indian so-called Revolution.
Gandhi, Gandhi today is, with respect to all of you, Gandhi today is a tumor that the ruling class is using constantly to mislead us. French Revolution made fundamental transformation. But it was bloody.
India, the result of Gandhi, is 600 million people living in maximum poverty.
So, ultimately, the bourgeosie won’t go without violent means. Revolution! Yes, revolution that is led by the working class.
Long live revolution! Long live socialism!”
Crowd: [Cheers.]
(Excerpt) Read more at pajamasmedia.com ...
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I experience it every day. You, on the other hand, find time to post on Getbig.
A worthwhile career. Look into it.
Getbig is crawling with jobless deadbeats. You're not alone. Embrace it.
Haha you crack me up
Look at the facts the jobless leach is you my frind, you have almost 6 times the posts he has.
Name: BerzerkFury
Posts: 17092 (7.682 per day)
Name: garebear
Posts: 3295 (2.898 per day)
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You mad.
You have close to a dozen gimmick accounts, each with thousands of posts. You also spend the working day conversing with yourself on said gimmicks and even giving yourself "backup" on a forum that has roughly 10 people actively posting on it.
Get a job, deadbeat. You and GayBear could probably find gainful employment at your local McDonald's.
Haha you have 17000 post retard
All your lies aint gonna help you, you are a job-less leach who post on getbig all day what a fucking joke you are
And you are the one with the gimmick accounts maening you have 12 times 17000 post. You are an embarresment just close your account
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Shut Down Capitalism? What a bunch of retards. If these jackwagons hate capitalism so much, move to a socialist or communist country. Inside of a month they will be begging to come back to capitalsim.
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there was a small gathering of hippies in Greenwhich CT in a location off the train-station where the are many of hedge-funds..These people looked like Adam(The true adonis). People that are living off trust funds..There are many of these types in Greenwich..
What a joke..
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Shut Down Capitalism? What a bunch of retards. If these jackwagons hate capitalism so much, move to a socialist or communist country. Inside of a month they will be begging to come back to capitalsim.
It is time to change the system. We need a socialist democracy end of story.
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Taking money out of politics solves this problem.
Corporations and Banks would no longer use the government to pick winners and losers.
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It is time to change the system. We need a socialist democracy end of story.
Hey you marxist dirtbag - GO TO CUBA IF ITS SO GREAT!
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Hey you marxist dirtbag - GO TO CUBA IF ITS SO GREAT!
Cuba isn't a socialist democracy. Thanks for trying. It's a totalitarian regime. re-read the 'democracy' part. It means everyone has a chance to vote and elect officials. Can you do that in Cuba? No? Then it's not a socialist democracy.
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It is time to change the system. We need a socialist democracy end of story.
No we don't we need the US constitution to be followed, you want to be a socialist move to Canada.
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It is time to change the system. We need a socialist democracy end of story.
Has this worked for the UK?
Seems like Capitalism is a small price to pay to keep the Islamic terrorist machine at bay.
(Yes I connected the two... That's just how it is.)
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Has this worked for the UK?
Seems like Capitalism is a small price to pay to keep the Islamic terrorist machine at bay.
(Yes I connected the two... That's just how it is.)
I wouldn't call the UK a socialist democracy. They have socialist elements but rely far too heavily on free market principals that have done nothing but ensure inequality.
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No we don't we need the US constitution to be followed, you want to be a socialist move to Canada.
Canada is no more socialist than the United States. Except they have health care provisions, other than that the two are very closely related, so not socialist.
The constitution provides for democracy. If we vote in a socialist democracy then it is right in line with the constitution.
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Canada is no more socialist than the United States. Except they have health care provisions, other than that the two are very closely related, so not socialist.
The constitution provides for democracy. If we vote in a socialist democracy then it is right in line with the constitution.
Yeah - lets let the lazy communist enviro freaks run the joint. ::) ::)
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I wouldn't call the UK a socialist democracy. They have socialist elements but rely far too heavily on free market principals that have done nothing but ensure inequality.
Sweden then?
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I like Canada.
Got lots of relatives there. They love it.
I don't think i would move there unless my immediate family was all there.
But its a cool place. At least Toronto and Vancouver are.
And its ran well. :)
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I like Canada.
Got lots of relatives there. They love it.
I don't think i would move there unless my immediate family was all there.
But its a cool place. At least Toronto and Vancouver are.
And its ran well. :)
Yeah - wonder why? Well - I will leave that alone for obvious reasons.
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Sweden then?
Even Sweden provide more property rights to corporations than socialists would generally like. I don't fear the 'muslim' invasion quite like everyone else does. I'm under no illusions that there are dangerous elements to islam and that those need to be reigned in. But i'm a firm believer in expectancy theory - you get what you expect most of the time. If you expect and treat muslims like they are terrorists, can we really be surprised they sometimes are?
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I like Canada.
Got lots of relatives there. They love it.
I don't think i would move there unless my immediate family was all there.
But its a cool place. At least Toronto and Vancouver are.
And its ran well. :)
Canada is a really nice country.
We would do well to model some of our values after Canadians.
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Yeah - wonder why? Well - I will leave that alone for obvious reasons.
Why?
Because i am not some obsessed ideological crusading tool.
You live in a absolute bung hole and you continue to stay there.
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Even Sweden provide more property rights to corporations than socialists would generally like. I don't fear the 'muslim' invasion quite like everyone else does. I'm under no illusions that there are dangerous elements to islam and that those need to be reigned in. But i'm a firm believer in expectancy theory - you get what you expect most of the time. If you expect and treat muslims like they are terrorists, can we really be surprised they sometimes are?
I certainly never treated them like terrorists before they committed terrorist actions.
So that's is certainly not the case. Nor is it the case with most people in the US... No one worried about Islam before they started blowing shit up... This is not a chicken / egg scenario.
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Why?
Because i am not some obsessed ideological crusading tool.
You live in a absolute bung hole and you continue to stay there.
Let them import millions of urban scum, illegal south of the border scum and you will see how great Canada will become in a few years.
Also - notice how they actually drill and develope gas resources? Maybe they are not as stupid as we are in pursuing these green fantasies that are killing this country.
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Canada is no more socialist than the United States. Except they have health care provisions, other than that the two are very closely related, so not socialist.
The constitution provides for democracy. If we vote in a socialist democracy then it is right in line with the constitution.
WTF? We live in a representative republic not a democracy. Try reading the damn thing
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Let them import millions of urban scum, illegal south of the border scum and you will see how great Canada will become in a few years.
Also - notice how they actually drill and develope gas resources? Maybe they are not as stupid as we are in pursuing these green fantasies that are killing this country.
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And you have actually spent time there? Like a few weeks a year for the past 20?
Canada is a extremely diverse with all kinds of nationalities. always have been since i have been visiting there. they all get along really well as far as i have experienced. Great little Italy, China town by where i stay.
Of course if you go there, then there will be some angry bald white guy beating his I hate everything that's not exactly like "Leave it to Beaver" and the Dick Van Dyke show.
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WTF? We live in a representative republic not a democracy. Try reading the damn thing
Even the pledge of allegiance says "To the Republic, for which it stands."
They should make kids say that more... even if it's without the "under God" portion.
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And you have actually spent time there? Like a few weeks a year for the past 20?
Canada is a extremely diverse with all kinds of nationalities. always have been since i have been visiting there. they all get along really well as far as i have experienced. Great little Italy, China town by where i stay.
Of course if you go there, then there will be some angry bald white guy beating his I hate everything that's not exactly like "Leave it to Beaver" and the Dick Van Dyke show.
Like I said - urban scum - take that for what it is. No nation will survive with the millions of beasts we have raping and pillaging the system like we do.
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Like I said - urban scum - take that for what it is. No nation will survive with the millions of beasts we have raping and pillaging the system like we do.
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oooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooo Kay.
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Occupy Wall Street: What Life Is Like for Protesters
CNBC ^ | October 12, 2011 | John Carney, Senior Editor
It is a half-acre rectangle of gently sloping granite and concrete in lower Manhattan, just across the street from Ground Zero.
It is dotted with trees, a few beds of flowers and granite benches. And until recently, Zuccotti Park was a popular place for Wall Street workers to eat lunch.
Now it is home to the Occupy Wall Street encampment.
The protesters moved into Zuccotti Park on Sept. 17, after discovering that the original site where they planned to camp was closed. Ever since, there has been a group of protesters in the park day and night.
The population changes from day to day, and week to week. Some people come for a few days—perhaps a weekend—while others have been there for weeks. Long-timers like to brag about the length of their stay. Many more people visit during the day, then leave once the park settles down at night.
Some residents are hardcore political activists. Others are college students. Some are people who have found themselves in dire economic straits. Still others are punk rock kids who usually can be found in the East Village's Tompkins Square Park.
The Occupy Wall Street camp in Zuccotti Park has many of the features of a village, or even a household.
Various people in the park perform chores — cooking, cleaning, and ensuring that disputes are peacefully resolved — that we ordinarily associate with a municipality or a home. Because of this, the park is surprisingly clean and life there is surprisingly orderly, even after being occupied by protesters for four weeks.
Things are so well organized in the park that it is easy to imagine—if they are able to figure out a way to tough out the cold and snow of the coming winter—that Occupy Wall Street might last indefinitely.
A sanitation staff sweeps the walkways during the day, changes the bags in the garbage cans, and organizes recycling. They wear tape across their backs and chests reading “Sanitation.” And because the park is cleaned by fellow protesters, everyone in the park seems particularly mindful about keeping the place tidy.
“Littering isn’t even a question,” one protester told me. “You’d be shunned right out of here.”
A kitchen is set up near the center of the park. It serves three meals a day and takes in edible donations. The food is reportedly very tasty. The New York Times reports that it is so bountiful that some protesters are actually gaining weight during their stay in the park.
There’s a group dedicated to arts and culture that has been putting up art installations in the park. A makeshift library on the northeastern edge of the park lends out books. An archivist is busy collecting an oral history, as well as a sampling of the signs and pamphlets created as part of the protest.
Just a bit west of the library there is what appears to be the inner circle of Occupy Wall Street. Several people, many working on laptops powered by a portable generator, sit in an area closed off by tables.
Most people—including protesters—are kept out by beefy people whose blue arm bands mark them as members of the security group. Exactly what this secretive group is doing is not clear.
“They’re media relations, and outreach and planning,” one person said.
So why are outsiders being kept from the area? No one would answer.
And so, ironically, there’s a no trespassing policy enforced at Occupy Wall Street.
Each night the protesters convene on the western side of the park for what they call the general assembly.
Speakers from the various “working groups” talk about the day’s activities, plans for the future, and proposals for new policies. This is more or less the governing body of the protest. Very often, the meeting goes on for several hours.
Decisions are reached by consensus rather than a formal vote. A proposal—such as the policy banning drugs and alcohol use in the park—is made by a speaker. A call for dissent is made. If no on dissents, the policy is considered adopted by consensus. People on the ground signal their approval by raising their hands and wiggling their fingers. “Jazz Hands” is how some describe it.
On the far eastern end of the park, there usually is a half dozen or so people loudly playing the drums. Others dance to the music. One night a guy showed up with a trombone. The police have banned amplification, but are permitting these loud drum circle parties.
The meeting and the drumming usually wrap up around 10 p.m. local time, when the “quiet hours” in the park begin.
Late at night, the park is covered in sleeping bags, inflatable mattresses, and sleeping mats. Some protesters sleep under the stars, others pull tarps over themselves. It’s difficult to sleep outside — and most people seem to be getting three or four hours sleep, at most. On some nights, there are hundreds of people sleeping in the park.
When morning comes, protesters rise from their slumber, rolling up their mats and sleeping bags, and piling them up near trees.
Local businesses have been allowing protesters to use the bathrooms.
Apparently, some residents have even allowed protesters to use their showers.
One sign of the order and cleanliness of the park is the condition of the park's two flower beds. After four weeks amidst the protests, the multicolored flowers are thriving.
Ten years ago, Zuccotti Park was heavily damaged by the Sept. 11th attacks on the World Trade Center, which stood just across the street.
Immediately after 9/11, the park, then known as Liberty Park, was a staging area for rescue and recovery efforts. It was, for several years, little more than a barren strip of land, another scar on lower Manhattan’s landscape.
The park was rebuilt and reopened in 2006, with 55 trees planted and granite benches and tables installed. A 70-foot-tall sculpture — titled Joie de Vivre— of criss-crossing bright-red beams was installed in the southeast corner. An older bronze sculpture — a lifelike rendition of an office worker reading a newspaper — was restored and now sits in the northwest corner of the park.
The park is actually a privately owned public space, originally created by US Steel in return for permission to build its headquarters higher than zoning restrictions allowed. This status of private ownership with public access created a quirk in the law that made it particularly open to “occupation” by the Occupy Wall Streeters.
New York City parks are usually subject to closing hours, curfews after which police can remove anyone still in the park. But the private ownership of the park exempts Zuccotti Park from these rules.
In fact, the agreement that created the park requires it to remain open 24 hours a day.
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That guy needs a mud hole stomped in his ass.
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What a thing to show your kids. ::)
See that kid in the back ground?
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Wow.
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WTF? We live in a representative republic not a democracy. Try reading the damn thing
How do they get to represent us? Oh right we vote for them. Representative democracy is still a democracy. Try to keep up.
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Ozmo - is this who you want me to support?
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And you have actually spent time there? Like a few weeks a year for the past 20?
Canada is a extremely diverse with all kinds of nationalities. always have been since i have been visiting there. they all get along really well as far as i have experienced. Great little Italy, China town by where i stay.
Of course if you go there, then there will be some angry bald white guy beating his I hate everything that's not exactly like "Leave it to Beaver" and the Dick Van Dyke show.
In Toronto and Vancouver over 40% of the population are non-native english speakers.
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Commies too
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While I agree that Wall Street deserves a lot blame, not all of it, these clowns down there are nothing but mostly hippies, socialists, communists, leftist dweebs, brooklyn hipsters, dopers, druggies, etc.
Would you say the same for the Occupy Wall Street protestors in all the other cities around the U.S.? If this is so, there are a lot of them. The U.S. being a democracy, the majority usually wins....think about that possibility.
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Yes! The more these far leftist trash show no restraint in all their glory - the better it is in the quest to get rid of Obama next year and send the progressive/socialist/liberal left into the dustbin of history. .
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Ozmo - is this who you want me to support?
No, i want you to seek counseling.
Afterwards then maybe you can take you "tool" and "hate" hats off and understand that there is a difference between who is protesting and what they are protesting about. Then maybe you get can behind the general idea of the protest, which although misplaced, it ia protesting a part of the problem in America.
I am not saying you need to get out there and join them, after all you got your own "Obama shouldn't be apologizing to Japan" protest and march you need to spend time organizing.
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In Toronto and Vancouver over 40% of the population are non-native english speakers.
Sounds about right.
The ethnic food you can get there is off the hook!
Not to mention china town and Kensington street markets.
Lots of good bars/clubs too.
And no angry bald obsessed fanatics bugging everyone about what Michelle said.
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Yes! The more these far leftist trash show no restraint in all their glory - the better it is in the quest to get rid of Obama next year and send the progressive/socialist/liberal left into the dustbin of history. .
Or.....they garner more and more support. If all these folks and their sympathizers vote in the 2012 election, what will happen to the corporate (supported) loving right/republican candidates then?
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Obama shouldnt be apologizing to Japan - only a communist traitor would do that.
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Or.....they garner more and more support. If all these folks and their sympathizers vote in the 2012 election, what will happen to the corporate (supported) loving right/republican candidates then?
LMFAO! 90% of these freaks are already far left obama voters. They are not appealling to anyone but their fellow drug addicts and dopers and leeches.
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http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_1012occupiers_dipping_into_hubs_pockets
Nice - So Ozmo - guess who pays the tab for this shit show?
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Sounds about right.
The ethnic food you can get there is off the hook!
Not to mention china town and Kensington street markets.
Lots of good bars/clubs too.
And no angry bald obsessed fanatics bugging everyone about what Michelle said.
Exactly. It's a different attitude up there.
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http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_1012occupiers_dipping_into_hubs_pockets
Nice - So Ozmo - guess who pays the tab for this shit show?
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So we shouldn't ever protest anything in America in groups because it might incur extra costs for a city?
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http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_1012occupiers_dipping_into_hubs_pockets
Nice - So Ozmo - guess who pays the tab for this shit show?
The 1%?
Haha too easy!
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Exactly. It's a different attitude up there.
Yeah you don't see tools running around ridiculing the opposite party 24/7.
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It is time to change the system. We need a socialist democracy end of story.
It’s funny you say this…as you continually ignore the fact that the vaunted “social democracies” of Europe are BANKRUPT. Insolvent. The EU is imploding before our eyes. Germany is all that is keeping the Euro alive. And the German people will only vote for so many tax increases at their expense so that the Greeks and other parasites can continue with their lackadaisical lives.
Greece – catastrophe, beyond bankrupt. Deadbeat, good-for-nothings who only excel at dodging taxes and sucking money out of the rest of the EU.
Italy – bankrupt
Spain – bankrupt, unemployment somewhere around 30%
UK – bankrupt
Ireland – bankrupt (although they’re hanging on)
Portugal – bankrupt, unemployment over 20%
Finland – UE over 10%
Cyprus – bankrupt
France – BNP Paribas, Credit Agricole and Soc Gen, their largest banks, are completely screwed. Swimming in debt. Borderline bankrupt thanks to exposing themselves to billions in worthless Greek sovereign debt.
Germany – swimming in debt and intent on signing their death wish by taking on even more with these disgusting PIIGS bailouts
Belgium – just nationalized Dexia, their largest bank by assets, after it was revealed that they were completely insolvent due to overexposure (even though they passed the EU bank stress tests less than 4 months ago , haha).
Switzerland - ruined themselves with their recent pegging of the CHF to the Euro
I can keep going, too. Smell that social democratic success? Smells like burning napalm. The one common theme among all these failures is that somehow, despite having little to no military costs and the highest taxes in the developed world, they have still managed to go bankrupt. Truly stunning when you think about it. Or not really when you take into account that the EU countries are happy to see 1% GDP growth.
What do you have to counter that with? Let me answer that for you: Sweden. That’s it.
Social democracies are a failure, always have been a failure and will always be a failure.
Honestly, if you like European govt. so much, why don’t you just fuck off to Europe? Obama’s embracing of the Eurotrash govt. model is why this country’s situation has gotten progressively worse since he took office. It is nothing more than a low-to-no growth/high tax model. Nothing more.
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Look at all those white people in the crowds. They deserve to be minorities in their own countries if they keep behaving like that.
Most of these people are clueless. Winter is coming, lets see these scumbags freeze to death.
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These people are absolutely disgusting.
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1,200 “Occupy Wall Street” Products For Sale On eBay — To Help You Fight Capitalism…
(CNS) — In the battle of Capitalism vs. Socialism, score one for making a profit.
The Occupy Wall Street (and Everything else) protest has loudly proclaimed its goal of taking down Wall Street. As they explained their anti-corporate creed in the “Declaration of Occupation”:
“We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments.”
But capitalism and free markets have a way of winning on their own. And Occupy Wall Street is no exception.
As of Tuesday, there were 1,200 “Occupy Wall Street” products available on eBay — for purchase.
Hahaha.
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Another stunning example of America's education system.
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Lol
It's good to know there are still plenty of "free enterprisers" in our country.
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Violence erupts on Wall Street as protesters clash with police in march on Chase bank
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2048473/Occupy-Wall-Street-Protesters-arrested-scuffle-police-march-Chase-bank.html ^ | 10/12/2011
Posted on October 12, 2011 6:54:12 PM EDT by Beckett08
The Occupy Wall Street movement got nasty again today in New York as dramatic photos showed the arrests of protesters angry at America’s richest people not paying their fair share of taxes.
Amazing pictures showed demonstrators being taken down by no-nonsense police officers during a protest near the headquarters of JPMorgan Chase bank in Manhattan on Wednesday.
The protesters were directing their anger and frustration at the state of the U.S. economy to JPMorgan Chase's high-profile chief executive Jamie Dimon.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2048473/Occupy-Wall-Street-Protesters-arrested-scuffle-police-march-Chase-bank.html#ixzz1abubf3Cn
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Shut Down Capitalism? What a bunch of retards. If these jackwagons hate capitalism so much, move to a socialist or communist country. Inside of a month they will be begging to come back to capitalsim.
What kind of logic is that?
Does that mean if you oppose tax increases you should move to a third world shit hole where they dont pay taxes? Inside of a month YOU will be begging to pay your taxes
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Has this worked for the UK?
Seems like Capitalism is a small price to pay to keep the Islamic terrorist machine at bay.
(Yes I connected the two... That's just how it is.)
You do know that the UK is far better of than the US right? And they still have there credit rating of AAA+
So what are you talking about? Just screaming with the other sheeps begging because you are sad and need company and confirmation?
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Sweden then?
Have you ever been outside the US???
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You do know that the UK is far better of than the US right? And they still have there credit rating of AAA+
So what are you talking about? Just screaming with the other sheeps begging because you are sad and need company and confirmation?
The UK is not better off than the US. Or were you asleep while they were rioting in the streets a few months ago over the austerity packages England keeps passing? Or did you miss them launching a second version of their own QE three weeks ago? The UK is broke and really has no business holding onto a AAA+ rating. Same goes for France and Germany. ::)
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Another stunning example of America's education system.
I can give you one for more example..you
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The UK is not better off than the US. Or were you asleep while they were rioting in the streets a few months ago over the austerity packages England keeps passing? Or did you miss them launching a second version of their own QE three weeks ago? The UK is broke and really has no business holding onto a AAA+ rating. Same goes for France and Germany. ::)
So some riots a few months ago means the country is broken? WTF
Really and how many money is the UK and Germany in debt compared to the US? Please answer this
You just see one event and base your arguments around them, its so frustrating to argue with a 5 year old. Please i know you have kids cant they post instead of you i bet they are a lot brighter
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What kind of logic is that?
Does that mean if you oppose tax increases you should move to a third world shit hole where they dont pay taxes? Inside of a month YOU will be begging to pay your taxes
Typical, these fuckheads run around screaming for socialism or whatever the fuck they want. Got news for them the majority of the people in this country like capitalism. Capitalism has provided for the highest standard of living the world has ever seen, So yeah lets bring down capitalism ::). The only ignorant fuckheads that beg for socialism or communism are those that have never had live under one of those systems. So go live in one of those system, then they might understand just how good they have it in the US. And the thing that pisses me off the most as the ignorant assholes don't even know who to protest.
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NY protest site needs a scrubbing, city says
Associated Press ^ | October 13, 2011 | Verena Dobnik
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:54:32 AM by decimon
NEW YORK (AP) — Protesters will have to clear out of the private Manhattan park where they've been camped out for nearly a month so the owners can clean it, but they'll be allowed to return afterward, city officials said.
Deputy Mayor Cas Holloway said in a statement Wednesday that the protest has "created unsanitary conditions and considerable wear and tear on the park." He said Brookfield Properties asked for police help to clear Zuccotti Park so it can be cleaned.
Holloway said the cleaning will be done in stages Friday. Protesters will have to leave but can return. Mayor Michael Bloomberg visited the protesters Wednesday to offer assurances.
Allison Esso of Human Services Council, a group that supports the protesters, was wary. "I'm hoping that they're not trying to undermine their ability to protest," she said.
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Tea Party Invades OCCUPY DC
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Tea Party Invades OCCUPY DC
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HAHAHAH did you happen to catch the Ron Poop Paultards out there marching by with the Wall STreet Protesting morons at 2:00?
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Tea Party Invades OCCUPY DC
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LMFAO! ! ! ! !
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LMFAO! ! ! ! !
I`m glad for these protests actually as it separates the wheat from the chaff. These people are beyond delusional and so far they have done nothing to further their cause. Ron Poop Paulers are also a perfect fit with these delusional liberal (I don`t even know what to call them really) Morons.
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It’s funny you say this…as you continually ignore the fact that the vaunted “social democracies” of Europe are BANKRUPT. Insolvent. The EU is imploding before our eyes. Germany is all that is keeping the Euro alive. And the German people will only vote for so many tax increases at their expense so that the Greeks and other parasites can continue with their lackadaisical lives.
Greece – catastrophe, beyond bankrupt. Deadbeat, good-for-nothings who only excel at dodging taxes and sucking money out of the rest of the EU.
Italy – bankrupt
Spain – bankrupt, unemployment somewhere around 30%
UK – bankrupt
Ireland – bankrupt (although they’re hanging on)
Portugal – bankrupt, unemployment over 20%
Finland – UE over 10%
Cyprus – bankrupt
France – BNP Paribas, Credit Agricole and Soc Gen, their largest banks, are completely screwed. Swimming in debt. Borderline bankrupt thanks to exposing themselves to billions in worthless Greek sovereign debt.
Germany – swimming in debt and intent on signing their death wish by taking on even more with these disgusting PIIGS bailouts
Belgium – just nationalized Dexia, their largest bank by assets, after it was revealed that they were completely insolvent due to overexposure (even though they passed the EU bank stress tests less than 4 months ago , haha).
Switzerland - ruined themselves with their recent pegging of the CHF to the Euro
I can keep going, too. Smell that social democratic success? Smells like burning napalm. The one common theme among all these failures is that somehow, despite having little to no military costs and the highest taxes in the developed world, they have still managed to go bankrupt. Truly stunning when you think about it. Or not really when you take into account that the EU countries are happy to see 1% GDP growth.
What do you have to counter that with? Let me answer that for you: Sweden. That’s it.
Social democracies are a failure, always have been a failure and will always be a failure.
Honestly, if you like European govt. so much, why don’t you just fuck off to Europe? Obama’s embracing of the Eurotrash govt. model is why this country’s situation has gotten progressively worse since he took office. It is nothing more than a low-to-no growth/high tax model. Nothing more.
It's funny you keep bringing up countries that aren't socialist democracies to prove a non-existent point you try so hard to make.
There is no true socialist country in Europe, all are based on more free market principals than socialism advocates. That is exactly why they are bankrupt. They have held onto a trickle down economic belief that has failed to provide for the people in a sustainable fashion.
You have proven the point that capitalism is a broken system that will continue to boom and bust, while leaving the majority out in the cold, by pointing out the failures of European capitalist countries.
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Have you ever been outside the US???
Yes... many times... That's why I'm asking whether other people believe certain countries which are typically considered social democracies are "doing well".
You do know that the UK is far better of than the US right? And they still have there credit rating of AAA+
So what are you talking about? Just screaming with the other sheeps begging because you are sad and need company and confirmation?
You are smoking crack... You have a country where there's an influx of Islamic fundamentalism and no one doing anything to protect "common law".
Both the UK and Sweden have more debt per capita than the United States... that's just the facts.
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Protesters suspicious of plan to clean up NYC park
By VERENA DOBNIK and MEGHAN BARR
Associated Press
NEW YORK (AP) -- Protesters expressed fears Thursday that a scheduled cleanup of the private park where they've been camped out near Wall Street is merely a ploy to unravel the demonstration.
City officials have informed protesters that they will need to leave Zuccotti Park on Friday so that it can be cleaned, but that they'll be allowed to return afterward.
As a steady drizzle fell Thursday over the park, owned by Brookfield Properties, confusion was high over when the protesters will be ordered out - and where they'll go during the evacuation.
"The cleanup is a pretext to remove us from the camp. And we can return only if we abide by the rules of Brookfield Properties," said Justin Wedes, 25, a public high school science teacher from Brooklyn who was sweeping the pavement with others. "We're redoubling our efforts today."
Brookfield did not immediately respond to requests for comment on the cleanup. City officials remained mum on logistics.
"This is the cleanest protest I've ever witnessed," said Emilio Montilla, 29, a laid-off teacher's assistant. "We take care of ourselves. We're self-sufficient."
A notice handed out to protesters Thursday from Brookfield stated that the cleaning is part of daily upkeep, and that conditions have deteriorated in recent weeks because that upkeep was put on hold by the protesters.
"They're going to use the cleanup to get us out of here!" Wedes said. "It's a de facto eviction notice."
Deputy Mayor Cas Holloway said in a statement Wednesday that the protest has "created unsanitary conditions and considerable wear and tear on the park." He said Brookfield asked for police help to clear the park so it can be cleaned.
Holloway said the cleaning will be done in stages Friday. Mayor Michael Bloomberg visited the protesters Wednesday to offer assurances.
Allison Esso of Human Services Council, a group that supports the protesters, was wary. "I'm hoping that they're not trying to undermine their ability to protest," she said.
The protest, known as Occupy Wall Street, has sympathetic groups in other cities which each stage their own local rallies and demonstrations: Occupy Boston, Occupy Cincinnati, Occupy Houston, Occupy Los Angeles, Occupy Philadelphia, Occupy Providence, Occupy Salt Lake, and Occupy Seattle, among them.
The movement has also drawn reaction from world leaders, including President Barack Obama, former Polish President Lech Walesa and Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Walesa said Thursday that he supports the New York protest and is planning to either visit or write a letter to the protesters. He said the global economic crisis has made people aware that "we need to change the capitalist system" because we need "more justice, more people's interests, and less money for money's sake."
Khamenei said Wednesday that the wave of protests reflects a serious problem that will ultimately topple capitalism in America. He claimed the United States is in a full-blown crisis because its "corrupt foundation has been exposed to the American people."
Khamenei's remarks came a day after U.S. officials said the Obama administration plans to leverage charges that Iran plotted to assassinate Saudi Arabia's ambassador into a new global campaign to isolate the Islamic republic.
Protesters, who have been living, sleeping and eating in the park for the duration, say they are in it for the long haul, despite the onset of cold weather.
On Wednesday, police arrested four people outside JP Morgan Chase offices where Wall Street protesters called in vain for a meeting with Chairman and CEO Jamie Dimon. Protesters accused the police of rough handling. An Associated Press photographer witnessed police officers heading into the crowd of demonstrators to make the arrests.
Meanwhile, about 700 members of the Service Employees International Union marched through the Financial District; the union, which represents 23,000 office cleaners, is gearing up for contract negotiations with the Realty Advisory Board.
More protests are planned in Toronto and Vancouver this weekend, and European activists also are organizing.
A lawyer for a woman pepper-sprayed during an action last month is demanding that the Manhattan district attorney prosecute an NYPD deputy inspector on an assault charge. Commissioner Raymond Kelly said the matter was being investigated by police internal affairs and the Civilian Complaint Review Board.
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LMFAO at these turds.
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The UK is not better off than the US. Or were you asleep while they were rioting in the streets a few months ago over the austerity packages England keeps passing? Or did you miss them launching a second version of their own QE three weeks ago? The UK is broke and really has no business holding onto a AAA+ rating. Same goes for France and Germany. ::)
I don't think France has a AAA+ but I'm not sure.....but I disagree with you on Germany...those bastards can sure work and save money like no one's business...they seem to have their economy pretty much in order....
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Occupy Wall Street Plans Human Chain to Prevent Clean-Up
ABC News ^ | October 13, 2011 | Ben Forer
Posted on October 13, 2011 5:33:33 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Occupy Wall Street put out a call on Facebook and Twitter today for people to “donate or purchase brooms, mops, squeegees, dust pans, garbage bags, power washers and any other cleaning supplies.”
The group which has been camping out in lower Manhattan’s Zuccotti Park for more than three weeks is trying to preempt the cleaning of the park that is scheduled for Friday.
“They’re going to use the cleanup to get us out of here,” said 25-year-old Justin Wedes. “It’s a de facto eviction notice.”
Occupy Wall Street is vowing to stay in the park and says they will try to prevent the cleaning crews from entering.
“Friday morning, we’ll awake and position ourselves with our brooms and mops in a human chain around the park, linked at the arms,” the group posted on its Facebook page. “If NYPD attempts to enter, we’ll peacefully, non-violently stand our ground, and those who are willing will get arrested.”
In a statement on Wednesday, Deputy Mayor Cas Holloway said the protest, “created unsanitary conditions and considerable wear and tear on the park.” He explained that Brookfield Properties, the real estate company that owns the park, asked for police assistance to empty the park in order for it to be cleaned.
According to a notice from Brookfield Properties the cleaning is scheduled to begin at 7 a.m. on Friday....
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Another stunning example of America's education system.
HOLY FUCK, this is not going to end well people.
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Wall Street protesters vow to stay put (despite living in disease infested filth)
cnn ^ | 10/12/2011 | cnn
Posted on October 13, 2011 10:10:40 PM EDT by tobyhill
Protesters will resist any efforts to remove them from the Lower Manhattan park where they have been camped for nearly a month, despite Mayor Michael Bloomberg's order that they vacate the park at 7 a.m. Friday so it can be cleaned, an organizer said Thursday.
"Come tomorrow morning, we will passively resist and make it as difficult a process to remove us as possible," said Occupy Wall Street spokesman Tyler Combelic. "It's not an occupation if you can't occupy the park."
His words appeared to be backed up by the sentiment of the crowd of more than 1,000 protesters who filled Zuccotti Park Thursday night. "All day! All week! Occupy Wall Street!" they chanted.
Combelic called the mayor's announcement a "not-so-veiled attempt" to force protesters from the park, setting up a possible confrontation with authorities.
Protesters descended on the privately owned park near the New York Stock Exchange on September 17 to protest the nation's ailing economy.
"You want to clean up something? Clean up these crooks on Wall Street," said City Council Member Charles Barron.
Daniel Mintz of MoveOn.Org said he was planning to deliver to Bloomberg more than 350,000 petitions and signatures he received Thursday from supporters around the nation. "The mayor would do a lot better cleaning up Wall Street than cleaning up the plaza," he said.
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I'm going to be down there tomorrow for court. I might go by and talk to some of these people.
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Wall Street protesters vow to stay put (despite living in disease infested filth)
cnn ^ | 10/12/2011 | cnn
Posted on October 13, 2011 10:10:40 PM EDT by tobyhill
Protesters will resist any efforts to remove them from the Lower Manhattan park where they have been camped for nearly a month, despite Mayor Michael Bloomberg's order that they vacate the park at 7 a.m. Friday so it can be cleaned, an organizer said Thursday.
"Come tomorrow morning, we will passively resist and make it as difficult a process to remove us as possible," said Occupy Wall Street spokesman Tyler Combelic. "It's not an occupation if you can't occupy the park."
His words appeared to be backed up by the sentiment of the crowd of more than 1,000 protesters who filled Zuccotti Park Thursday night. "All day! All week! Occupy Wall Street!" they chanted.
Combelic called the mayor's announcement a "not-so-veiled attempt" to force protesters from the park, setting up a possible confrontation with authorities.
Protesters descended on the privately owned park near the New York Stock Exchange on September 17 to protest the nation's ailing economy.
"You want to clean up something? Clean up these crooks on Wall Street," said City Council Member Charles Barron.
Daniel Mintz of MoveOn.Org said he was planning to deliver to Bloomberg more than 350,000 petitions and signatures he received Thursday from supporters around the nation. "The mayor would do a lot better cleaning up Wall Street than cleaning up the plaza," he said.
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I'm going to be down there tomorrow for court. I might go by and talk to some of these people.
Say hi to your probation officer for me
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Have to file notice of trial on a lien foreclosure matter for a contractor where a deadbeat owner won't pay for concrete delivery.
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Have to file notice of trial on a lien foreclosure matter for a contractor where a deadbeat owner won't pay for concrete delivery.
you and the owner have something in common then
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Breitbart I Have E-Mails -Organized Plan For Occupy WallStreet Protests To Destabilize Government
Breitbart ^ | 10/13/2011
Posted on October 13, 2011 11:02:44 PM EDT by Beckett08
Breitbart: I Have E-Mails Showing Organized Plan For #OccupyWallStreet Protests To Destabilize Government
On Fox Business, Andrew Breitbart breaks the news that Big Government has obtained and will release e-mails that prove the organized plan behind the "Occupy Wall Street" protests.
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Breitbart I Have E-Mails -Organized Plan For Occupy WallStreet Protests To Destabilize Government
Breitbart ^ | 10/13/2011
Posted on October 13, 2011 11:02:44 PM EDT by Beckett08
Breitbart: I Have E-Mails Showing Organized Plan For #OccupyWallStreet Protests To Destabilize Government
On Fox Business, Andrew Breitbart breaks the news that Big Government has obtained and will release e-mails that prove the organized plan behind the "Occupy Wall Street" protests.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.tv ...
Uh oh. And Democrats have already gotten behind these protests. They're going to wind up damaging Obama even more.
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Uh oh. And Democrats have already gotten behind these protests. They're going to wind up damaging Obama even more.
33% of america backs these dickbags.
26% backs the tea party.
So at least at the moment, ppl support them.
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33% of america backs these dickbags.
26% backs the tea party.
So at least at the moment, ppl support them.
You can't be this stupid, can you?
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Costs of the Occupiers
Townhall.com ^ | October 14, 2011 | Michelle Malkin
Posted on October 14, 2011 6:52:36 AM EDT by Kaslin
The trash generated by the "Occupy Wall Street" protests keeps piling up. So do the bills. Liberal media outlets claim the anarchic, anti-capitalist movement is more popular than the tea party. But wait until Americans across the country get a full picture of the costs of the aimless occupiers.
In New York City, government officials estimate the month-long siege of Zuccotti Park has now imposed $3.2 million in overtime police costs on the public. On Thursday, as Mayor Michael Bloomberg's office pressured left-wing activists to vacate the park for cleaning, Occupy Wall Street urged sympathizers to flood the city's customer services lines: "Call 311 and tell Bloomberg not to evict us!"
In Philadelphia, Mayor Michael Nutter told the press that demonstrators outside city hall have incurred $164,000 in overtime public employee costs and $237,000 in regular time. "At the current rate, if Occupy Philly continues to the end of the month, the city would spend another nearly $690,000 on police overtime alone," the local NBC affiliate reported. "Besides the extra police presence being dedicated to the Occupy Philly protests, other city departments have also incurred costs."
In Seattle, police have so far billed $30,000 in overtime, and the parks department racked up nearly $4,000 in additional costs related to the protests there. Occupiers have blocked traffic, assaulted an officer and pitched illegal tents. Merchants in the area have been hurt as the riff-raff deter customers. One business owner in Westlake Park, where hundreds of protesters remain camped out, told Seattle TV station KIRO: "There's definitely fewer people you can identify as people out, just walking through the area."
Seattle's pushover mayor, Democrat Mike McGinn, now faces even greater demands from the insatiable mob -- which wants a "guaranteed parking space near City Hall Plaza that allows for around-the-clock parking," "24-hour access to the first floor of City Hall for restroom access, and a written statement from the mayor approving the protesters' long-term occupancy of City Hall Plaza."
In Boston, City Council President Stephen Murphy anticipates a $2 million hit to taxpayers if the protests refuse to disband by the end of October. The local Fox affiliate notes the tab represents 8 percent of the yearly budget for police overtime. "While we're all sympathetic with our protesters down there," Murphy said, "Wall Street isn't picking up the tab on this thing. It's the Boston taxpayers."
When fiscally conservative tea party activists held protests over the past two years, they filed for all the required permits and paid for their own power. Occupy Boston, by contrast, neither sought nor obtained any proper permits at any level, according to the Boston Globe. Instead, city and park officials have been cowed into providing them gratis electricity and camp space lest there be "conflict."
Many of these occupiers are primarily occupied as paid rent-a-mobsters for unions, left-wing think tanks and the radical Working Families Party. While one collective hand soaks the taxpayers, the other hand is busy soliciting free stuff. Occupy Los Angeles activists took to Skype on their laptops to solicit donations of iPhones and iPads.
Occupy Wall Street members on Twitter organized an ongoing "#needsoftheoccupiers" drive for everything from batteries and tarps to "gently used" coats and sweaters, wool socks, sleeping bags and energy bars. Occupy Austin organizers publicized their wish list, including a free barbecue grill, portable toilets, extension cords, a Bobcat forestry cutter for clearing brush and network cameras for a livestream.
These are not principled advocates of fiscal responsibility. They are professional freeloaders.
Unlike tea party activists who focused like a laser beam on politicians in both parties responsible for redistributing wealth to Big Business cronies by force, the Occupy Wall Street movement is everywhere and nowhere. The entitled Kamp Alinsky Kids are poaching WiFi and trespassing on private property under the guise of "social justice" but in plain service of themselves.
Their T-shirts and speeches glorify Marxist radicals Che Guevara, Emiliano Zapata and Chairman Mao. They lionize convicted death row cop killer Troy Davis and WikiLeaks collaborator Bradley Manning. They condemn "Nazi Bankers," Jews, Fox News, the American Legislative Exchange Council, Wisconsin GOP Gov. Scott Walker, the Koch family and the New York Police Department ("Pigs!"). They promote the illegal alien DREAM Act and 9/11 Trutherism.
They spout bumper-sticker profanities and inanities: "F**k banks." "Unf**k the world." "Fuuuuu*k." "Free education." "Smash nationalism." "People not profits."
They flash peace signs while celebrity supporter Roseanne Barr calls for beheading financial industry workers and fellow marchers call explicitly for "violent revolution" or for Obama to "Send SEAL Team 6" to Wall Street.
Then they huff and puff (preferably in a creepy uniform chant they call the "human microphone") that we just haven't taken the time to understand what they're all about -- as they hawk $20 "Eat the Rich" polo shirts and license their protest photos to Getty Images.
Viva la revolucion! Up with people! Stop the greed! (Cha-ching. Cha-ching.)
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Violence Breaks Out During ‘Occupy Wall Street’ March Toward New York Stock Exchange
CBS LOCAL NEWS (New York City) ^ | October 14, 2011
NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) -- Just a few hours after protesters learned they’d be able to stay in Zuccotti Park indefinitely, violence broke out as a group marched away from it.
Protesters, apparently jubilant over being able to stay in the park after their furious cleanup efforts, took their brooms, flags and signs and started fanning out at around 7:30 a.m.
1010 WINS’ Steve Sandberg reported the protesters were saying things to the effect that now that they’d cleaned up the park, they were going to clean up Wall Street.
A group of protesters headed south on Broadway toward the New York Stock Exchange, carrying their brooms. Police were taken off-guard, Sandberg reported. The group swelled quickly and wound up in a confrontation with police as they tried to gain access to Wall Street. The standoff occurred near Bowling Green as they turned left on Beaver Street.
Police urged protesters to stay out of the street and stay on the sidewalk.
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..Denver police move on protesters, arrest some
By STEVEN K. PAULSON and THOMAS PEIPERT - Associated Press | AP – 6 mins
DENVER (AP) — Dozens of police in riot gear advanced early Friday on the last remaining cluster of protesters supporting the Occupy Wall Street movement at the state Capitol.
The demonstrators retreated without resisting, but some were arrested.
Protesters chanted "Peaceful!" or "Shameful!" as they backed away from their encampment.
There were no immediate signs of physical violence, and an exact number of arrests was unclear. Officers placed plastic ties around some protesters' wrists. Police carried or dragged some from the encampment and led others by the arm.
Stragglers were carried by police to small groundskeepers tractors and driven away.
Some protesters covered their faces with handmade masks or bandanas.
Authorities began taking down dozens of tents at around 3:30 a.m. At about 6:30 a.m., officers advanced on a line of protesters who had locked arms around the remaining tents. Officers held their batons horizontally and nudged or pushed the protesters to break up the human chain.
By 7 a.m., most of the group had retreated across a street that had been closed to traffic. Some protesters moved back into the street when officers let traffic flow again, prompting police to herd them back to the sidewalk.
As in other cities, the Denver protesters said they object to Wall Street excesses and the economic power of the rich.
"My main complaint is there is no more middle class in America. The rich control most of the money," said David Humphrey, 24, of Pine. He carried a sign with a picture of President Barack Obama and the words "Change God bless."
Pavlos Stavropoulos of Littleton, who described himself as a medic for the protest, said he had seen no serious injuries.
"This is a very disciplined action," he said.
A nearby bus station was closed because of the police action. About a dozen downtown bus routes were picking up and dropping off commuters on the sidewalk outside the station.
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Lmao. I just went down there and will post some pics when I get back to the ogffice. What a fucking joke. A collection of misfits.
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Lmao. I just went down there and will post some pics when I get back to the ogffice. What a fucking joke. A collection of misfits.
How many people are down there really?
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How many people are down there really?
A few hundred at best. its like a zoo exhibit where there are more people on the outisde looking in taking pics than actual hippies.
More cops and media than anything.
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;D
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;D
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:o
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:D
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Johnny Falcon approved
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Johnny Falcon approved
I almost felt bad for these fools. What a sad collection of hapless idiots.
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I almost felt bad for these fools. What a sad collection of hapless idiots.
I do feel badly for a lot of them. Some of them make you scratch your head though.
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I do feel badly for a lot of them. Some of them make you scratch your head though.
I walked right in to the middle of the entire mess. I met that dude with the crazy bike helmet.
These are the hippies looking to be the modern day flower children.
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i'm sure we got some unbiased pictures from you ::) ::) ::)
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How can anyone support this shit?
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i'm sure we got some unbiased pictures from you ::) ::) ::)
LMFAO!
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Damn, look how many are on cell phones, lol.
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Damn, look how many are on cell phones, lol.
I dont know why - but so many of these fools were walking around bare foot and picking at their feet.
Disgusting.
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Damn, look how many are on cell phones, lol.
I HATE CORPORATIONS but I love Apple, the largest corporation on the planet by market cap who also manufactures all their products in Taiwan. Fuck the machine, DOWN WITH CAPITALISM.
BRB, texting to my friend with my iPhone about this hilarious Google-owned Youtube(TM) clip I just saw!
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About 50 'Occupy Utica' protesters spend the night in tents
http://www.wktv.com/news/local/About-50-Occupy-Utica-protesters-spend-the-night-in-tents-131875448.h ^ | Oct 14, 2011 | WKTV
Posted on October 14, 2011 8:05:31 PM EDT by mdittmar
About 50 of the estimated crowd of 400 people who 'occupied' Utica Thursday evening ended up spending the night.
The diehard protesters say they will continue to 'Occupy Utica' 24 hours a day as long as the weather permits.
One of the organizers, Ken Keplinger says he does not want to put anyone's health in jeopardy, so as soon as the temperatures drop overnight to a temperature the group believes is unsafe, the protest will then only take place during the day.
Keplinger says they do plan to stay 24 hours a day, as long as they can.
Keplinger, who himself spent the night in a tent along Liberty Bell Park says it was rainy and cold on this first overnight, but it was an enthusiastic bunch who spent the night, "high spirits, a lot of people going by and honking for us. People from Utica, from businesses all over. They've been coming by, they're saying way to go, thanks for being out here for us, here's some food, here's some water."
The crowd was estimated to be about 400 during the peak 6:00 p.m. hour Thursday night, when the group held its kickoff event.
Just like their counterparts in the ongoing 'Occupy Wall Street' protest in New York City many of the protesters here in Utica chant and hold up signs with slogans about political and financial reform.
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Donny Deutsch: Occupy Wall Street Needs A "Kent State" Moment
Real Clear Politics ^ | 10/14/11 | Real Clear Politics
Donny Deutsch appeared on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" to discuss Occupy Wall Street Movement. Deutsch says the movement needs a Kent State Moment
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OccupyLA Protester: ‘Zionist Jews’ Who Run Banks Should Be ‘Run Out of This Country’
Breitbart ^ | Oct. 15, 2011 | Staff
Posted on October 15, 2011 3:32:00 PM EDT by La Enchiladita
Here’s one of the protesters Reason.tv spoke to at Occupy Wall Street in Los Angeles on October 12, 2011. She identifies herself as Patricia McAllister and as an employee of Los Angeles Unified School District.
“I think that the Zionist Jews, who are running these big banks and our Federal Reserve, which is not run by the federal government… they need to be run out of this country,” she said.
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Whatever you think about this thing, it's crazy how it's spread all over the world.
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Whatever you think about this thing, it's crazy how it's spread all over the world.
Truth.
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Truth.
See Rome today. damn.
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Whatever you think about this thing, it's crazy how it's spread all over the world.
Its shit and its an internet meme.
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Its shit and its an internet meme.
lol
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Perhaps the joke is on those, like this thread's originator, who aren't taking Occupy Wall Street seriously.
According to tonight's late night newscast, about there are about 4,000 occupy Wall Street folks demonstrating today in Portland, OR. There are about 700 occupy Wall Street folks across the Columbia river in Vancouver, Washington. Additionally, there have been demonstrations and protests worldwide today. Seems like there are a lot of disgruntled folks out there demanding to be heard.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/occupy-wall-street-protests-go-global/2011/10/15/gIQAp7kimL_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/occupy-wall-street-protests-go-global/2011/10/15/gIQAp7kimL_story.html)
http://www.katu.com/news/local/131898763.html (http://www.katu.com/news/local/131898763.html)
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Perhaps the joke is on those, like this thread's originator, who aren't taking Occupy Wall Street seriously.
According to tonight's late night newscast, about there are about 4,000 occupy Wall Street folks demonstrating today in Portland, OR. There are about 700 occupy Wall Street folks across the Columbia river in Vancouver, Washington. Additionally, there have been demonstrations and protests worldwide today. Seems like there are a lot of disgruntled folks out there demanding to be heard.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/occupy-wall-street-protests-go-global/2011/10/15/gIQAp7kimL_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/occupy-wall-street-protests-go-global/2011/10/15/gIQAp7kimL_story.html)
When they actually get people elected to office or change a law, come talk to me.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/131898763.html (http://www.katu.com/news/local/131898763.html)
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Democrats, the Media and the Heart of the "Occupy" Movement
Townhall.com ^ | October 16, 2011 | Derek Hunter
Posted on October 16, 2011 7:23:30 AM EDT by Kaslin
“What do they want?” is a common refrain in the media these days. Left-wing talking heads and progressive TV hosts are still scrambling to figure out exactly what the “Occupy Wall Street” crowd is up to. But this lack of knowledge hasn’t stopped nearly every person on the Left of the political spectrum from offering full-throated support for the unwashed, unruly rabble. But who, or what, are they supporting?
It’s been a month since the first group of professional protesting leftists squatted on a patch of private property in lower Manhattan, pitched a tent and started their drum circle. What we knew about them then is about what we know about them now - they’re angry.
There has been no mainstream media investigation of who these people are, how this came about or what they want beyond the superficial “They’re young, disaffected and worried about the future.”
That’s all well and good, but it’s not even in the same ZIP code as reality.
Normally, politicians would have to vet a potential endorsee before they’d ever consider offering anything beyond tepid support. Such is not the case here.
In a press conference, President Obama sympathized with the protestors and said he understood their frustration. Exactly what frustration remains encased in a thicker fog than the cloud of body odor hovering over Zuccotti Park.
Former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi understands them too. She took her support a step further by offering a “God bless them” when asked what she thought. But what was she blessing?
Any look at this mob from anything lower than a helicopter flyover reveals a dark, dangerous, radical and anti-Semitic side.
Meet “occupier” Patricia McAllister. Patricia works for the Los Angeles Unified School District. She also hates Jews. She told Reason.tv, “I think that the Zionist Jews who are running these big banks and our Federal Reserve, which is not run by the federal government, they need to be run out of this country.”
Even more disturbing than what Patricia said was the calm demeanor in which she said it. Anti-Semitic hatred flows casually, openly and freely at these events. She seemed somewhat concerned she might be overheard by someone who would take offense, that the person interviewing her might have a problem with it. But she had no worry whatsoever what she was saying might be anything other than fact. This woman is involved in some way with educating children.
Former Obama administration “Green Jobs” czar Van Jones, who resigned after his 9/11 truther and communist sympathies came to light, called for the American people to “stand in solidarity with Occupy Wall Street.” Would you stand with Patricia McAllister? Apparently Mr. Jones would.
But Jones and McAllister won’t be alone. There are plenty of radicals and racists willing to stand up and be counted because they’re safe in the knowledge the hatred they exhale will not be covered by their fellow travelers in the media. Did you hear about Democrat Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky marching with communists? The pamphlets being passed out with calls to destroy Israel? The speaker decrying calls for non-violence, calling for French Revolution-type actions to cheers?
No? Weird.
How about Lisa Fithian, the professional radical anarchist who is helping run these events?
No? Seriously?
That’s because, aside from a few brave souls like my friend Andrew Breitbart and his “Big” websites, no one is covering these people the way they did the Tea Party. Reporters were dispersed into the massive crowds to find the most absurdly dressed people carrying fringe signs, then presented them as the norm. In any large group you’re going to find some kooks-that’s just the law of averages. But the media willingly portrayed them as representative of the whole.
Remember the Obama-with-Hilter mustache pictures from the Tea Party events? It was clear they belong to left-wing fringe perpetual candidate Lyndon LaRouche’s supporters, yet they were portrayed as Tea Party members. Even LaRouche supporters admit they found that odd.
Or the bogus charge that the N-word was hurled at black Members of Congress as they walked through a crowd on their way to cast their ObamaCare vote? That’s still accepted as gospel to the Left despite the fact that a $100k reward for proof it happened remains unclaimed.
Instead of the truth, instead of questions, we get cheerleading and cherry-picked camera angles showing perfectly lit, perfectly well behaved, smiling people. You’ll never see the fringe, the loons and the unstable on CNN or MSNBC, aside from the hosts. They’re too busy demanding conservatives admit these protests are “resonating” with people (in the newsroom at least) or saying they need another “Kent State moment,” only this time without the deaths. These are paid professionals.
The Media Research Center did a study of the “Big Three” networks and found that in its short life, not only did the “Occupy” crowd get more coverage over a two-week period than the Tea Party did over a nine-month period, but that coverage was significantly more positive.
Not being content with owning the spin machines, they’ve even cooked up flawed polling to bolster their case. Shocking, I know.
The best thing about the Internet is that we are no longer dependent upon these corrupt information brokers to be informed. Not to sound all X-Files-y on you, but the truth is out there...you just have to find it. Unfortunately, far too many of our fellow citizens still receive their “news” through the filter of this corrupt machine. But that number is shrinking every day. If this “occupation” has any redeeming quality, perhaps it will be to force even more people who seem willing to take the “Red Pill” to, instead, see the world for what it really is.
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The American Nazi Party likes what it sees.
Today the American Nazi Party released a statement in support of Occupy Wall Street movement.
The foremost authority on National Socialism in America has this to say about “Occupy” [ANP leader Rocky Suhayda -ed.] :
What is really MISSING – is the “MOVEMENT” from these popular protests – its time to pull WN heads out of their collective ass’s, and JOIN IN the attack on Judeo-Capitalism. What do you suggest? That WN Working Class White people DEFEND the Judeo-Capitalists? IF the “movement” wasn’t so PATHETIC it would be OUT THERE – LEADING these protests! The fact that its these “lefties” as you call them, who are picking up the ball and running with it – only shows how much more in tune THEY are with the fed up masses of White Workers, than the fossilized, reactionary “right-wing”. WHO holds the WEALTH and POWER in this country – the JUDEO-CAPITALISTS. WHO is therefore the #1 ENEMY who makes all this filth happen – the JUDEO-CAPITALISTS. WHO therefore do WN need to FIGHT? My heart is right there with these people, perhaps someday the “movement” will SHOW the same COURAGE and DEDICATION that these people OUT THERE FIGHTING are SHOWING!
Sincerely, ROCKY SUHAYDA Hail Victory! 88!
Then there’s this…
The Communist Party USA also supports the Obama-endorsed Occupy Wall Street Protests.
From the CPUSA website:
This is an exciting time! Thousands of mainly young people have been occupying Wall Street for three weeks already, and the “Occupy Movement” has spread to more than 200 other cities. On Oct. 6 the actions spread to our nation’s capital.
The Communist Party USA (CPUSA) will hold a national teleconference to discuss it:
Arturo Cambron
The Communist Party and the Occupy L.A. Movement
Tuesday, October 11, 8 pm Eastern
Teleconference number: 605-475-4850 (please note this is the corrected number. ignore previous.)
Access code: 1053538#
Southern California Party leader Arturo Cambron will share how the CPUSA and Young Communist League (YCL) are working in “Occupy Los Angeles.”
This movement, also known as the “99% movement,” is being hailed across the country. Movements and organizations are reaching out in solidarity. The AFL-CIO is opening union halls and offering other material assistance. Ordinary people are donating food, money and materials.
In many areas, the “Occupy Movement” is linking up with the National American Wants to Work Week of Actions, Oct. 10-16.
No doubt the “Arab Spring” demonstrations and those that exploded in Wisconsin, Ohio and elsewhere have inspired it. But underlying it all is the economic crisis, the massive unemployment and growing realization that nothing is getting better, and in fact we may be slipping into a “double dip” crisis. The crushing student debt and the feeling of being locked out of society with no future compound this.
The movement is the newest wrinkle in the all-people’s upsurge against the banks and corporations and reflects a new level of class-consciousness.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/figures-nazi-party-throws-support-behind-occupy-wall-street-movement
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Check out this video on YouTube:
Lmfao! This is what you morons support?
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Thousands of Protesters Fill NYC's Times Square
Philly.com & AP ^ | 10/16/11 | CHRIS HAWLEY
Posted on October 16, 2011 9:22:52 AM EDT by Dr. Scarpetta
NEW YORK - Thousands of demonstrators protesting corporate greed filled Times Square on Saturday night, mixing with gawkers, Broadway showgoers, tourists and police to create a chaotic scene in the midst of Manhattan.
"Banks got bailed out, we got sold out!" protesters chanted from within police barricades.
Police, some in riot gear and mounted on horses, tried to push them out of the square and onto the sidewalks in an attempt to funnel the crowds away.
Sandy Peterson of Salt Lake City, who was in Times Square after seeing "The Book of Mormon" musical on Broadway, got caught up in the disorder.
"We're getting out of here before this gets ugly," she said.
Sandra Fox, 69, of Baton Rouge, La., stood, confused, on 46th Street with a ticket for "Anything Goes" in her hand as riot police pushed a knot of about 200 shouting protesters toward her.
"I think it's horrible what they're doing," she said of the protesters.
"These people need to go get jobs."
Among the people participating in that march was Sergio Jimenez, 25, who said he quit his job in Texas to come to New York to protest.
"These wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were all based on lies," Jimenez said.
"And if we're such an intelligent country, we should figure out other ways to respond to terror, instead of with terror."
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SEIU has Occupy Wall Street's back! Pledge to visit an "Occupy" event near you
SEIU.org ^ | October 2011
Posted on October 16, 2011 11:30:55 AM EDT by Oldeconomybuyer
It is time that the voices of the 99% stand together. Let's start by not being silent.
Sign up with Daily Kos and SEIU, and pledge to attend a solidarity event for Occupy Wall Street. Once you make the pledge, you will be redirected to a list of over 300 local solidarity events across the United States and Canada.
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Police arrest 175 Occupy Chicago protestors
WBEZ91.5 ^ | Oct. 16, 2011 | Associated Press
Posted on October 16, 2011 4:10:04 PM EDT by mdittmar
Chicago police arrested 175 members of a group protesting corporate greed early Sunday after they refused to take down their tents and leave a city park when it closed.
About 500 members of Occupy Chicago set up camp at the entrance to Grant Park on Saturday evening after a protest earlier in the day involving about 2,000, the Chicago Tribune reported. Occupy Chicago is an offshoot of the Occupy Wall Street movement that started last month in New York City and has inspired protests nationwide.
The Chicago demonstration entered its 24th day Sunday with protesters at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, organizer Rachael Perrotta said. She said organizers also were meeting protesters who had been arrested as they were released from jail.
Chicago police said they gave protesters repeated warnings after the park closed at 11 p.m. and began making arrests when they refused to leave. Officers also asked protesters to take down their tents before beginning to cut them down to clear the area, police said.
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Yeah, there is a real way to get normal people on your side.
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Does Obama Endorse This?
The Weekly Standard ^ | Oct 16, 2011 | DANIEL HALPER
Posted on October 16, 2011 3:02:22 PM EDT by mdittmar
The front page of Saturday's Washington Post featured a story titled "Obama looks to harness anti-Wall St. angst" directly below a picture of a wild-looking protester strangling a police officer with this caption: "A man affiliated with the Occupy Wall Street protests tackles a police officer during a march in New York. Police arrested 15 people during demonstrations Friday, but the movement gained a victory after a plan to clear people from a Manhattan park was halted."
This, it turns out, is an element of President Obama's reelection strategy. "President Obama and his team have decided to turn public anger at Wall Street into a central tenet of their reelection strategy," the Post reports.
The Post concedes that this posture might be a bit preposterous. "Much of [Obama's] top economic team has roots in the financial services industry, and in recent months Daley and top campaign aides have devoted much of their time improving the relationship with big-dollar donors on Wall Street."
Yet the paper fails to ask whether the White House is endorsing the violent--and unlawful--elements of the protest. (There is also the question of rampant anti-Semitism, which goes completely ignored here, as well.)
Given the choice between siding with the law or with a protest made up of hooligans who place police officers in headlocks, who would you pick? For the presidnt of the United States, it's supposedly a politically prudent choice to side with the criminals.
I pray Obama sides w these commies.
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Occupy Charlotte protestors have no place to go to the bathroom it seems?
The Examiner ^ | October 16, 2011 | Robert Tilford
Posted on October 16, 2011 4:57:49 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
It seems Occupy Charlotte protesters have no place to go to the bathroom downtown.
This is causing some problems for both the protesters and city officials.
Protester organizers have sought to rent portable toilets but city ordinances won’t allow that. Police are also on hand to make sure protestors can’t do that.
Some protesters have started to do what comes naturally on the lawn.
“You can smell something is not right”, says Ted Mark on of about two dozen die hard Occupy Charlotte protesters who are shuttling people to bathrooms across town.
“When you got to go you have to go”, said one unidentifed protester sporting a Guy Fox mask...
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
Bunch of Pigs.
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Cindy Sheehan arrested at Calif. Wall St. protest
Associated Press ^ | Oct. 16, 2011
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- Police in the California state capital of Sacramento say that anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan was among 19 demonstrators arrested during a demonstration of anti-Wall Street sentiment.
The Sacramento Bee (http://bit.ly/oI2tNu ) reports that the 53-year-old Sheehan was booked early Sunday on suspicion of unlawful assembly and failing to follow police orders to disburse.
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Occupy Wall Street protesters have amassed $230,000 and supplies
NY Post ^ | 10-16-11 | MELISSA KLEIN, JENNIFER BAIN and AARON FEIS
Posted on October 16, 2011 3:12:57 PM EDT by afraidfortherepublic
The Wall Street protesters have amassed a $230,000 war chest and a warehouse full of supplies for their long-haul campaign.
And the money continues to pour in -- through online donations, money orders and about $1,000 a day dropped in a plastic jug and paint buckets in Zuccotti Park.
Occupy Wall Street has also been flooded with goods -- everything from peanut butter to tampons -- at a rate of about 100-400 new packages a day that has overwhelmed the local UPS branch.
Most of the supplies are being stashed in a United Federation of Teachers storage facility near the park.
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They include so-called “jail support kits,” which include a blanket, granola bar and sanitary wipes to give to people as they get out of the slammer.
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Can't wait till the cold comes in. These fools are going to freeze.
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333386 is a party of one. Occupy Wall Street folks number in the ten's of thousands or worldwide, perhaps the hundreds of thousands. Get used to it 333386, no matter how many posts you put up, these people have a much bigger voice than you do.
Attached is Occupy Wall Street: List and map of over 200 U.S. solidarity events and Facebook pages: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/04/1022722/-Occupy-Wall-Street:-List-and-map-of-over-200-US-solidarity-events-and-Facebook%C2%A0pages?detail=hide (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/04/1022722/-Occupy-Wall-Street:-List-and-map-of-over-200-US-solidarity-events-and-Facebook%C2%A0pages?detail=hide)
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Where were these people when the tea party started? l
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A Breitbart.tv investigation has uncovered that the man whose epic meltdown video at the "Occupy Wall Street" protests went viral is really Edward T. Hall III. Mr. Hall is a Columbia graduate student who has a trust fund set up by his grandfather. He recently made headlines for trying to board a flight at JFK airport by hopping the ticket counter and diving onto the baggage carousel.
He was charged with trespassing and is free on "conditional release."
http://tv.breitbart.com/occupywallst-poster-boy-a-trust-fund-baby-attempted-stowaway-at-jfk
This confederacy of communists, dopers, socialists, anarchists, etc is going to great for Obama next year.
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A few observations about Occupy Wall Street
The World Tribune ^ | October 16, 2011 | Sumantra Maitra
Posted on October 16, 2011 8:05:14 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Almost twenty years back, when the Soviet and East European states crumbled, who would have thought that socialism would make such a comeback? Here are a few ground truths about the Occupy Wall Street movement and the various spinoffs it has started.
They are not democratic: No surprise there, really. There can be no movement which professes plebiscitary democracy, through means of a revolution, which can ever be democratic. Tahrir Square was not democratic, Anti-G20 demonstrations were not democratic, the Madrid and Athens riots were not democratic. Nor will be this Occupy movement. Already as I write this, riots have erupted in Rome and might erupt again in London. There is a fear of rioting in Toronto too. Did I just say revolution? Yes, I did. And no I did not make that up. They themselves call it Global revolution. Their charter of demands are completely filled up with demands directed against “corporate greed”. They personally heckled Murdoch, a man, who for all the good and bad in him, is responsible for the job creations of thousands of people across the globe. Their demands are contradictory, like ending fossil fuel and nuclear power stations.
They want well paying jobs, they want their student loan debts to be forgiven, they want their basic amenities to be guaranteed by the State, they want free subsidies, they want to close down and picket corporates and banks, (where will they perform their jobs I wonder!), they want open borders so that anyone can go and work anywhere while shying away from competition and blaming the corporates for outsourcing and taking away their jobs, they want re-distribution of wealth, and they want the wealth of big banks transferred to them. All this, without any competition and regardless of their qualities and whether they are eligible or qualified for it.
They are completely out of touch with reality. Completely out of touch. They are without leadership, and their goals are vague. They are closet antisemites, and the “I am 99%” slogan thing, is in shortage of better words, pure rubbish. They are bad for business. Remember Tahrir Square? Well…it cost Egypt over $55 billion. And they didn’t actually get democracy, not in Egypt, Tunisia, or Libya. Without question, the cost of this occupation movements of public places will cost the taxpayers massively across the globe, not just the establishment and cleaning cost, but obstruction of daily business too. But then since when were populist economies productive anyway?
This looks like the 60s all over again. They are inevitably bad dressers, are terribly unhygienic, wear hand-printed multi-coloured psychadelic shoes, hilariously bad and crudely worded slogans, guitars, red flags, flowers at wrong places, nudity and indecent public exposure, marijuana and drugs…you name it, it is there.
One difference though. The leaders of the free democratic world in those days had the spine to deal with hooligans the way they should be treated.
Today, unfortunately, we have dithering, politically correct, and narrow minded cowards who are afraid to take tough actions for the fear of losing the votebanks. This is sad, and self destructive in the long run.
In 2011, apparently, the people who actually pay taxes are afraid of the people who want to take everything by force.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-draws-closer-to-occupy-wall-street-says-obama-is-fighting-for-interests-of-the-99-2011-10
Lmfao!
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/10/16/2011-10-16_hundreds_arrested_at_occupy_events_in_chicago_denver_arizona_as_movement_spreads.html
Nice.
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Protesters Debate What Demands, if Any, to Make
Victor J. Blue for The New York Times
Although David Haack's proposal to formulate policy demands was voted down in August, he said the protest's “true democratic process” had inspired him.
By MEREDITH HOFFMAN
In a quiet corner across the street from Zuccotti Park, a cluster of 25 solemn-faced protesters struggled one night to give Occupy Wall Street what critics have found to be most lacking.
“We absolutely need demands,” said Shawn Redden, 35, an earnest history teacher in the group. “Like Frederick Douglass said, ‘Power concedes nothing without a demand.’ ”
The influence and staying power of Occupy Wall Street are undeniable: similar movements have sprouted around the world, as the original group enters its fifth week in the financial district. Yet a frequent criticism of the protesters has been the absence of specific policy demands.
Mr. Redden and other demonstrators formed the Demands Working Group about a week and a half ago, hoping to identify specific actions they would formally ask local and federal governments to adopt. But the very nature of Occupy Wall Street has made that task difficult, in New York and elsewhere.
Although Occupy Seattle has a running tally of votes on its Web site — 395 votes to “nationalize the Federal Reserve,” 138 for “universal education” and 245 to “end corporate personhood,” for example — Mike Hines, a member of the group, said the list would soon be removed because the provisions had not been clearly explained and because some people were not capable of voting online.
“It feels like we’re all in a similar boat,” Mr. Hines said of other Occupy movements. “We all want to include as many voices as possible.”
In New York, the demands committee held a two-hour open forum last Monday, coming up with two major categories: jobs for all and civil rights. The team will continue to meet twice a week to develop a list of specific proposals, which it will then discuss with protesters and eventually take to the General Assembly, a nightly gathering of the hundreds of protesters in the park.
A two-thirds majority would have to approve each proposal, and any passionate opponent could call for the entire vote to be delayed.
The General Assembly has already adopted a “Declaration of the Occupation of New York City,” which includes a list of grievances against corporations and a call for others to join the group in peaceful assembly. To many protesters, that general statement is enough, and the open democracy of Zuccotti Park is the point of the movement.
“Demands are disempowering since they require someone else to respond,” said Gabriel Willow, a protester strolling past a sleeping-bag pod of young adults in the park last Monday. “It’s not like we couldn’t come up with any, but I don’t think people would vote for them.”
Although Monday’s open forum was meagerly attended, politically active members like Cecily McMillan and David Haack, who first proposed formulating demands in a pre-campout planning meeting in August, said they were ready to take action. Mr. Haack, who in 2009 tried to run for the White Plains City Council, admitted feeling disillusioned after the group struck down their proposal in August, but now he feels inspired by the movement’s “true democratic process,” even if it means slower progress going forward.
“Let’s give ourselves two weeks,” Ms. McMillan said about presenting provisions to the General Assembly. Ms. McMillan, 23, a New School graduate student, feels such dedication to the cause that she has contemplated taking a sabbatical from her studies — but she has begun to worry that the movement could become “a joke” without specific goals. Still, with the right demands, she said, more union members and diverse contingencies could join.
In Austin, Tex., participants agreed on four demands, including an end to corporate personhood and tax reform. One Austin activist, Lauren Walker, linked the movement’s goals directly to government officials.
“This is our time because we’re coming up to the 2012 elections,” she said, suggesting that protesters saw the presidential election as a “deadline” to draft revolutionary policy suggestions.
Elsewhere, Occupy Boston, Occupy D.C. and Occupy Philadelphia were among the many groups in the movement slowly formulating demands, though in each city, opposition has arisen from skeptical demonstrators.
In Boston, Meghann Sheridan wrote on the group’s Facebook page, “The process is the message.” In Baltimore, Cullen Nawalkowsky, a protester, said by phone that the point was a “public sphere not moderated by commodities or mainstream political discourse.” An Occupy Cleveland participant, Harrison Kalodimos, is even writing a statement about why demands are not the answer.
Joseph Schwartz, a political science professor and an Occupy Philadelphia participant, said he thought the movement’s “anarchist strain” discouraged a demand-making environment.
Whatever it is, New York’s small group of focused activists said they would not yield.
“If we don’t make demands, the political parties will make them for us,” a longtime protester, Eric Lerner, 64, said from his spot in the cluster last Monday. “We have to get it right this time.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/17/nyregion/occupy-wall-street-trying-to-settle-on-demands.html?_r=2&partner=MYWAY&ei=5065
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What a pathetic joke. F'ing morons.
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http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/magazine/96062/occupy-wall-street-zizek-lewis?passthru=NWJhNDIyNzAzNmU5MWExYzI1ZmM0ZGU0MDJiZTU2MTk&utm_source=Editors+and+Bloggers&utm_campaign=4e29fdf4cc-Edit_and_Blogs&utm_medium=email
Even many libs are waking up to this commie movement and want no part of it.
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EXTREMISTS ON PARADE
Proof! Wall Street protests no 'spontaneous uprising'
Major demonstration directed by leftist shadow organization
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Posted: October 16, 2011
5:01 pm Eastern
By Aaron Klein
© 2011 WND
Protesters at "Occupy Wall Street" event
A public relations firm closely partnered with the George Soros-funded Tides Foundation represented last week's anti-Wall Street march past millionaires' homes in New York, WND has learned.
Fenton Communications has been behind the public relations strategy of a who's who of far-left causes, organizations and activists, from Soros himself to Health Care for America Now to crafting strategies for MoveOn.org and a litany of anti-war groups.
Fenton, which works closely with Tides, first made its name representing communist dictatorships in the 1980s.
Fenton's founder is tied to President Obama and to a slew of Saul Alinsky-style community organizing groups directly involved in recent U.S. street protests, including in Wisconsin and New York.
Fenton's fingerprints on promoting and organizing the march bring further evidence suggesting the anti-Wall Street movement is a well-planned campaign and not the spontaneous uprising its leaders claim.
Here's the rundown on Obama's ties to "communists, socialists and other anti-American extremists" – all in "The Manchurian President."
Already, questions have been raised by the news media about Adbusters, the magazine that is reported to have come up with the Occupy Wall Street idea after Arab Spring protests toppled governments in Egypt, Libya and Tunisia. The media has been probing Adbusters' source of funding – the Tides Foundation.
Tides acts like a massive clearinghouse of donations to a slew of liberal groups. Critics have alleged the center acts to obscure the ultimate sources of donations by collecting significant sums of money from a few large donors and then funneling the money to thousands of liberal causes.
Soros' Open Society Institute is a prominent Tides Center donor, giving the group $3.5 million between 2007 and 2009 alone.
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Press release
Last week's Occupy Wall Street march past millionaires' homes was first announced in a press release entitled, "Community Groups and Progressive Organizations Join Together to Plan 'Millionaires March' with Occupy Wall Street Protestors."
The release detailed how a group calling itself 99 New York was joining the Occupy Wall Street movement as a partner. The 99 organization is purportedly a coalition of unions and community organizations, such as UnitedNY, Strong Economy for All Coalition, NY Communities for Change, and the Working Families Party.
It was the 99 New York group, which claims to represent the will of 99 percent of the U.S. population, that led last week's Occupy Wall Street march down the streets of New York.
The press release was sent to reporters and was also posted in various Occupy Wall Street affiliated websites, including StrongForAll.org.
The release listed contact information for 99 New York's spokesmen: Doug Forand of Red Horse Strategies, a firm that has represented scores of Democrat politicians; and Doug Gordon, senior vice president of Fenton Communications.
Gordon's Fenton email was provided on the release. Prior to joining Fenton, Gordon worked for years on Capitol Hill and in Democratic politics. He spent seven years as the top aide to Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich.
Soros, Fenton, Tides
Fenton Communications was founded in 1982 by David Fenton, an activist who served as a photographer for Bill Ayers' domestic Weather Underground terror group.
Fenton Communications works in conjunction with the Soros-funded Tides Center that funded Adbusters, which was reported to have started the concept of Occupy Wall Street.
Fenton used the Tides Center to set up Environmental Media Services in 1994. Tides reportedly originally ran EMS' daily operations.
David Fenton serves on the board of numerous Tides-funded groups, while his firm represents more than 30 Tides Center grantees, as well as Soros himself and the billionaire's Open Society Institute. Fenton helped to craft Moveon.org's attacks on Gen. David Petraeus.
An example of the close public relations relationship between Fenton and Tides is the Social Venture Network, which was established and operates as a project of the Tides Foundation, while its strategy is represented by Fenton. SVN's board has included Tides' founder Drummond Pike as well as Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink.
Another group, September Eleventh Families For Peaceful Tomorrows, is an antiwar organization founded by individuals who lost loved ones in 9-11 terrorist attacks. The group's campaign was coordinated by Fenton while the group was funded by Tides.
Also represented by Fenton is the Win Without War group, which was funded by Soros and Tides.
WND found more than 30 recent examples of Tides grantees whose strategy was coordinated by Fenton.
Fenton, Obama, Ayers ties
While David Fenton first photographed Ayers in the 1960s, he later served alongside both Ayers and Obama on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago nonprofit which channeled money to a slew of progressive groups, including the Tides Center and the Alinsky-style Midwest Academy training outfit. Obama served as a paid director on the Woods Fund board from 1999 to 2002.
WND recently reported Midwest's founder, Heather Booth, has been training unions on how to use the economic crisis.
Citizen Action of Wisconsin, an arm of Booth's Midwest Academy, is part of the Moving Wisconsin Forward movement, one of the main organizers of the major Wisconsin protests in February, as WND first reported.
Fenton's managing director, Ira Arlook, also served as director of Booth's Citizens Action.
With research by Brenda J. Elliott
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Journolist 2.0: OccupyDC Emails Show MSM, Dylan Ratigan, Working With Protesters To Craft Message
Big Journalism ^ | 10/16/11 | Dana Loesch
Big Journalism has learned that the Occupy Washington DC movement is working with well-known media members to craft its demands and messaging while these media members report on the movement.
Someone has made the emails from the Occupy D.C. email distro public and searchable. The names in the list are a veritable who’s who in media. Journolist 2.0 includes well known names such as MSNBC’s Dylan Ratigan, Rolling Stone’s Matt Tiabbi who both are actively participating; involvement from other listers such as Bill Moyers and Glenn Greenwald plus well-known radicals like Noam Chomsky, remains unclear.
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New York’s Marxist epicenter
By CHARLES GASPARINO
Last Updated: 4:06 AM, October 17, 2011
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The standard portrayal of the Wall Street protesters goes something like this: Ragtag group of unemployed young adults, venting often incoherent but overall legitimate populist outrage about economic inequality. But go down to the movement’s headquarters, as I did this past weekend, and you see something far different.
It’s not just that knowledge of their “oppressors” -- the evil bankers -- is pretty thin, or that many of them are clearly college kids with nothing better to do than embrace the radical chic of “a cause.” I found a unifying and increasingly coherent ideology emerging among the protesters, which at its core has less to do with the evils of the banking business and more about the evils of capitalism -- and the need for a socialist revolution.
It’s not an overstatement to describe Zuccotti Park as New York’s Marxist epicenter. Flags with the iconic face of the Marxist revolutionary Che Guevara are everywhere; the only American flag I saw was hanging upside down. The “occupiers” openly refer to each other as “comrade,” and just about every piece of literature on offer (free or for sale) advocated socialism in the Marxist tradition as a cure-all for the inequalities of the American economic system.
Don’t try to explain to any of these protesters how those who sought to create a Marxist utopian dream of revolution also gave us the Stalinist purges, Mao’s bloody Cultural Revolution and many other efforts to collectivize thought in the name of economic “justice.”
One woman was holding a “Nationalize the Federal Reserve” sign; I tried to explain that the Fed is already nationalized, because it’s part of government, and she told me to “go check my f--king facts -- it’s privately owned.”
That’s when I was handed a piece paper offering the following wisdom: “The Game of Capitalism Breeds Dishonest Men.” The author of such deep thinking was a dude named De La Vega, an artist convicted a few years back for painting graffiti on a warehouse in The Bronx.
That was pretty mild compared to the sentiments offered in the official “Statement of the League for the Revolutionary Party” on the protests. These guys view as the enemy not just Wall Street tycoons, but also liberal labor leaders like Richard Trumka of the AFL-CIO.
The problem with Trumka, according to the Revolutionary Party and its Zuccotti Park contingent: He wants to work with wishy-washy Democratic Party politicians, where the true revolutionaries want to “defend and develop Marxist theory as a guide to action,” which is the protests’ real purpose.
Maybe the worse-spent dollar I have ever spent in my life was on a propaganda broadsheet titled “Justice,” which advocates “Struggle, Solidarity, Socialism.” On the front page of the newspaper-like document, beneath the headline “Capitalism: System Failure,” was a tease for a story on the economy and how “influential business economist Nouriel Roubini” recently said how “Karl Marx had it right. At some point, capitalism can destroy itself.”
Yes, the left-leaning Roubini made that fatuous statement, and many similar ones -- so many, in fact, that he has lost much of his credibility in financial circles, though that didn’t quite make it into the “Marx Was Right!” story.
Also absent was any notice of how the much-hated banks benefited not from free-market capitalism, which would have let them fail in 2008, but from crony capitalism that bailed them out. The similar cronyism practiced by Trumka and the Obama administration -- massive spending on useless but politically connected businesses like Solyndra, paired with class-warfare rhetoric -- likewise has very little to do with free markets.
I don’t advise going down to Zuccotti Park to have a serious conversation with the protesters, given their growing propensity toward violence and the growing revolutionary tone of the movement. But I would suggest that President Obama might want to put a hold on his support for the Occupy Wall Street movement as his 2012 re-election bid approaches.
If he keeps saying nice things about the protesters, the debate among business types and voters won’t be whether the president has some socialist leanings, but how much virtue he sees in the thoughts of Karl Marx.
Charles Gasparino is a Fox Business Network senior correspondent.
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Lot of democracy haters in this thread.
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Lot of democracy haters in this thread.
I hope this movement grows - really - the leftists in all their unrestrained glory are the perfect advertisement for conservatives/libertarians
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'Occupiers' killing stimulus-funded sod in D.C.
by David Freddoso
Online Opinion Editor
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The Occupy D.C. protests, as Conn noted the other day, continue to violate federal law by camping out on National Park Service Land. Law enforcement officials from the alphabet soup of agencies that police D.C. are letting them get away with it.
You could say they haven't harmed anyone here downtown, except that they have. In McPherson Square, where some two or three dozen of them have been camping out for the last week, they have already ruined a few newly sodded sections of the park. The re-sodding of the park was completed this year as part of a $419,000 stimulus project to refurbish the square. The park, which is across from the Examiner Building in downtown D.C., was shut down for months during the project.
You could say they're stimulating the economy, because now taxpayers will have to cough up a few thousand more to fix the damage.
What you see in the accompanying photos are portions of the park where tents have been removed recently. In a few spots, the grass is only mostly dead, but in others it's dead and gone, and the new sod has given way to mud. The areas where the Occupiers have their tents pitched right now will be all mud before the end of this week, if they aren't already.
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/occupiers-killing-stimulus-funded-sod-dc
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Pics at site of these communist pigs.
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**Update** Communist Marching with #OccupyChicago Identified as OFA Organizer for President Obama
Big Government ^ | 10/17/11 | Rebel Pundit
Yesterday we released a video of John Bachtell, a national board member from the Communist Party U.S.A., addressing the bongo-banging, spoiled, suburban run-aways at the #OccupyChicago tent city and an interview with a few of his “fellow travelers” in the march.
Thanks to a reader tip, we have identified the three individuals in the march who we interviewed. In the photo below starting on the left is James Raines, a University of Memphis teacher (from reader tip), next to his right is Jordan Farrar (Young Communist League & Organizing for America), and next to him is Gabe Niechcial, another young communist.
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This whole charade is nothing more than "generation nothingness" wanting a cause to harken back to the glory days of their drug-addled baby boomer parents 1960's.
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This whole charade is nothing more than "generation nothingness" wanting a cause to harken back to the glory days of their drug-addled baby boomer parents 1960's.
These pieces of human fecal matter need a golden shower daily until they wake up from their commie induced delusionals.
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A Breitbart.tv investigation has uncovered that the man whose epic meltdown video at the "Occupy Wall Street" protests went viral is really Edward T. Hall III. Mr. Hall is a Columbia graduate student who has a trust fund set up by his grandfather. He recently made headlines for trying to board a flight at JFK airport by hopping the ticket counter and diving onto the baggage carousel.
He was charged with trespassing and is free on "conditional release."
http://tv.breitbart.com/occupywallst-poster-boy-a-trust-fund-baby-attempted-stowaway-at-jfk
This confederacy of communists, dopers, socialists, anarchists, etc is going to great for Obama next year.
Doesn't matter if he has a trust fund...it could be a conservatory like Britney Spears. Not only that, this guy clearly has mental issues.
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Polling the Occupy Wall Street Crowd
In interviews, protesters show that they are leftists out of step with most American voters. Yet Democrats are embracing them anyway.
By DOUGLAS SCHOEN
President Obama and the Democratic leadership are making a critical error in embracing the Occupy Wall Street movement—and it may cost them the 2012 election.
Last week, senior White House adviser David Plouffe said that "the protests you're seeing are the same conversations people are having in living rooms and kitchens all across America. . . . People are frustrated by an economy that does not reward hard work and responsibility, where Wall Street and Main Street don't seem to play by the same set of rules." Nancy Pelosi and others have echoed the message.
Yet the Occupy Wall Street movement reflects values that are dangerously out of touch with the broad mass of the American people—and particularly with swing voters who are largely independent and have been trending away from the president since the debate over health-care reform.
The protesters have a distinct ideology and are bound by a deep commitment to radical left-wing policies. On Oct. 10 and 11, Arielle Alter Confino, a senior researcher at my polling firm, interviewed nearly 200 protesters in New York's Zuccotti Park. Our findings probably represent the first systematic random sample of Occupy Wall Street opinion.
Our research shows clearly that the movement doesn't represent unemployed America and is not ideologically diverse. Rather, it comprises an unrepresentative segment of the electorate that believes in radical redistribution of wealth, civil disobedience and, in some instances, violence. Half (52%) have participated in a political movement before, virtually all (98%) say they would support civil disobedience to achieve their goals, and nearly one-third (31%) would support violence to advance their agenda.
The vast majority of demonstrators are actually employed, and the proportion of protesters unemployed (15%) is within single digits of the national unemployment rate (9.1%).
An overwhelming majority of demonstrators supported Barack Obama in 2008. Now 51% disapprove of the president while 44% approve, and only 48% say they will vote to re-elect him in 2012, while at least a quarter won't vote.
Fewer than one in three (32%) call themselves Democrats, while roughly the same proportion (33%) say they aren't represented by any political party.
What binds a large majority of the protesters together—regardless of age, socioeconomic status or education—is a deep commitment to left-wing policies: opposition to free-market capitalism and support for radical redistribution of wealth, intense regulation of the private sector, and protectionist policies to keep American jobs from going overseas.
Sixty-five percent say that government has a moral responsibility to guarantee all citizens access to affordable health care, a college education, and a secure retirement—no matter the cost. By a large margin (77%-22%), they support raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans, but 58% oppose raising taxes for everybody, with only 36% in favor. And by a close margin, protesters are divided on whether the bank bailouts were necessary (49%) or unnecessary (51%).
Thus Occupy Wall Street is a group of engaged progressives who are disillusioned with the capitalist system and have a distinct activist orientation. Among the general public, by contrast, 41% of Americans self-identify as conservative, 36% as moderate, and only 21% as liberal. That's why the Obama-Pelosi embrace of the movement could prove catastrophic for their party.
In 1970, aligning too closely with the antiwar movement hurt Democrats in the midterm election, when many middle-class and working-class Americans ended up supporting hawkish candidates who condemned student disruptions. While that 1970 election should have been a sweep against the first-term Nixon administration, it was instead one of only four midterm elections since 1938 when the president's party didn't lose seats.
With the Democratic Party on the defensive throughout the 1970 campaign, liberal Democrats were only able to win on Election Day by distancing themselves from the student protest movement. So Adlai Stevenson III pinned an American flag to his lapel, appointed Chicago Seven prosecutor Thomas Foran chairman of his Citizen's Committee, and emphasized "law and order"—a tactic then employed by Ted Kennedy, who denounced the student protesters as "campus commandos" who must be repudiated, "especially by those who may share their goals."
Today, having abandoned any effort to work with the congressional super committee to craft a bipartisan agreement on deficit reduction, President Obama has thrown in with those who support his desire to tax oil companies and the rich, rather than appeal to independent and self-described moderate swing voters who want smaller government and lower taxes, not additional stimulus or interference in the private sector.
Rather than embracing huge new spending programs and tax increases, plus increasingly radical and potentially violent activists, the Democrats should instead build a bridge to the much more numerous independents and moderates in the center by opposing bailouts and broad-based tax increases.
Put simply, Democrats need to say they are with voters in the middle who want cooperation, conciliation and lower taxes. And they should work particularly hard to contrast their rhetoric with the extremes advocated by the Occupy Wall Street crowd.
Mr. Schoen, who served as a pollster for President Bill Clinton, is author of "Hopelessly Divided: The New Crisis in American Politics and What It Means for 2012 and Beyond," forthcoming from Rowman and Littlefield.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637082965745362.html
Surprise, surprise! ::)
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Media Shill For OWS
IBD Editorials ^ | October 17, 2011 | Editorial
Posted on October 17, 2011 8:20:58 PM EDT by Kaslin
Journalism: A cache of new Occupy Wall Street emails shows several press types offering advice to the protesters. We'd be shocked, except the mainstream media have been openly helping the Occupy movement all along.
In one of the hundreds of Occupy Wall Street emails now posted online, MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan warns occupiers that they shouldn't issue demands. "The focus on simple shared principle and intent to align with all who agree with that principle is a unique strength," he advised.
Dylan isn't an activist. He's not a PR guy, either. He's allegedly a journalist, and one with a long list of journalistic credentials on his resume. Nevertheless, the left dismissed Ratigan's and other journalists' email help, noting that they are avowed liberals. Maybe so, but try to imagine the reaction if Bill O'Reilly were caught emailing tips to the Tea Party.
In any case, the real crime here isn't a few emails from left-wing journalists, but the fact that the rest of the "unbiased" mainstream press has been overtly helping the protesters as well.
Don't think so? Try to find press accounts of speakers at Occupy rallies who have overtly called for violence. Or coverage of the rising incidents of anti-Semitism, expressed in verbal abuse of Jews and signs like: "Google the following: Wall St. Jews, Jewish billionaires, Jews & Federal Reserve Bank." Or the anti-Americanism on display: flags flown upside down, flags with "Sold Out" painted on them, flags trampled underfoot. In Portland, occupiers sang along to "F*** the USA."
Nothing to see here, folks.
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this OWS is absolutely the MSNBC version of tea party.
same way fox promoted it while msnbc trashed the tea party things.
astroturf all around.
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this OWS is absolutely the MSNBC version of tea party.
same way fox promoted it while msnbc trashed the tea party things.
astroturf all around.
Bro - tell you what - since you have never been to NYC - why not take a trip up here and check the place out? I will be your tour guide?
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Bro - tell you what - since you have never been to NYC - why not take a trip up here and check the place out? I will be your tour guide?
i'm afraid we'd sit at a table for 2 hours dirnking beers with a laptop/internet connection.
at the end of the night - you'd be a 911 truther, and i'd be putting on brass knuckles to go beat up some illegals while wearing a "Drill Palin" t-shirt.
the world would change, bro. Ignorance is bliss. You think 19 arabs dropped WTC7 and called off Norad, and I think bloomberg's illegals program is, well...
You get the idea.
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i'm afraid we'd sit at a table for 2 hours dirnking beers with a laptop/internet connection.
at the end of the night - you'd be a 911 truther, and i'd be putting on brass knuckles to go beat up some illegals while wearing a "Drill Palin" t-shirt.
the world would change, bro. Ignorance is bliss. You think 19 arabs dropped WTC7 and called off Norad, and I think bloomberg's illegals program is, well...
You get the idea.
LOL. I'll drive you to hunts point, sounth Bronx, Mott haven, Brooklyn, mt Vernon, Webster ave, Harlem, etc and you will know where I come from.
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LOL. I'll drive you to hunts point, sounth Bronx, Mott haven, Brooklyn, mt Vernon, Webster ave, Harlem, etc and you will know where I come from.
If we run into trump
i'll keep lookeyloo for crooked 5.0 if you want to blow him. you can borrow my kneepads.
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If we run into trump
i'll keep lookeyloo for crooked 5.0 if you want to blow him. you can borrow my kneepads.
I can't believe you have never been to NYC. It's literally the center of the planet city wise. 24 7 everything!
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Mumia Supports Occupy Philly Movement
myfoxphilly.com ^ | Oct. 14, 2011
Posted on October 17, 2011 10:32:03 PM EDT by Free ThinkerNY
In a podcast from prison, convicted murder Mumia Abu-Jamal says he’s fully supportive of the Occupy movement camped out in New York and Philadelphia.
Abu-Jamal compares the Occupy Wall Street and the Occupy Philly demonstrations to the uprising in Egypt, as well as the political protests in Wisconsin.
Mumia is on death row in a western Pennsylvania prison for killing Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner, but he releases regular podcasts on a Web site called Prison Radio.
He says “the central focus of their protests is capitalism…. Especially since the economic tumble of 2008.”
“Social discontent is so wide spread it is spreading like wildfire,” he adds, comparing the support of politicians of Wall Street like “vampires at a blood bank.”
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LMFAO!!!!
I am going to go down there again soon and keep track of this mess. batchelor had a good segment tonight w a NYT reporter who slept the night and she confirmed everything I said.
come end of November - we are looking at Andersonville down there.
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I can't believe you have never been to NYC. It's literally the center of the planet city wise. 24 7 everything!
bloomberg hates gun.
bloomberg invites illegals to go there for free healthcare.
i don't like shit like that.
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bloomberg hates gun.
bloomberg invites illegals to go there for free healthcare.
i don't like shit like that.
Dear God.
NYC is literally like nothing you can imagine. sometimes I take it for granted for those who live in podunk.
It's 24 7 here.
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Freed hikers cheer 'Occupy' movement, plead for prisoners' rights
cnn ^ | 10/17/2011 | staff
Posted on October 17, 2011 10:49:16 PM EDT by tobyhill
Three Americans freed after being held in Iran lent their support Monday to the now-global Occupy movement, applauding its participants' idealism and activism while making a specific point to protest what they call the harsh treatment of state prisoners in California.
The pleas in California from Josh Fattal, Shane Bauer and Sarah Shourd to their hometown Occupy Oakland crowd supporting scores of prisoners on hunger strikes signify the wide breadth of issues -- and, critics may say, lack of focus -- being addressed by the movement. The trio, who said they experienced long-term solitary confinement in Iran -- called California's approach to such confinement especially egregious.
The state Department of Corrections said last week that a three-week hunger strike by inmates had ended. But Fattal -- who announced he'd gone on a symbolic 24-hour fast to show solidarity with the California inmates -- said Monday that 150 prisoners remained on a hunger strike.
"The only way to be heard is to threaten that you're going to die. This is crazy," said Bauer, who like Fattal spent 26 months mostly alone in cramped cells before being released last month. "If people here are supporting (the California prisoners), they are going to feel it."
The three Americans also cheered the Occupy movement, which began 31 days ago in Lower Manhattan not long before the two men were released by Iranian authorities. It has since grown into an international movement, despite its lack of obvious leadership or a single, unifying message.
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LOL. I fucking live here in this jungle. The media is sling this out to be something it is not.
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Wall Street's Gullible Occupiers (Good One)
Wall Street Occupied Journal ^ | 10/12/11 | PETER J. WALLISON
Posted on October 12, 2011 6:25:30 AM EDT by woofie
The protesters have been sold a bill of goods. Reckless government policies, not private greed, brought about the housing bubble and resulting financial crisis.
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There is no mystery where the Occupy Wall Street movement came from: It is an offspring of the same false narrative about the causes of the financial crisis that exculpated the government and brought us the Dodd-Frank Act. According to this story, the financial crisis and ensuing deep recession was caused by a reckless private sector driven by greed and insufficiently regulated. It is no wonder that people who hear this tale repeated endlessly in the media turn on Wall Street to express their frustration with the current conditions in the economy.
Their anger should be directed at those who developed and supported the federal government's housing policies that were responsible for the financial crisis.
Beginning in 1992, the government required Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to direct a substantial portion of their mortgage financing to borrowers who were at or below the median income in their communities. The original legislative quota was 30%. But the Department of Housing and Urban Development was given authority to adjust it, and through the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations HUD raised the quota to 50% by 2000 and 55% by 2007.
It is certainly possible to find prime borrowers among people with incomes below the median. But when more than half of the mortgages Fannie and Freddie were required to buy were required to have that characteristic, these two government-sponsored enterprises had to significantly reduce their underwriting standards.
Fannie and Freddie were not the only government-backed or government-controlled organizations that were enlisted in this process. The Federal Housing Administration was competing with Fannie and Freddie for the same mortgages.
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These protests would be old news if the MSNBCs of the world weren't so invested in them. They're the sole driving force keeping them going.
Let's see how long the protesters hang around when the media moves onto the next big thing. I give it two to three weeks, tops.
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These protests would be old news if the MSNBCs of the world weren't so invested in them. They're the sole driving force keeping them going.
Let's see how long the protesters hang around when the media moves onto the next big thing. I give it two to three weeks, tops.
I was down in the middle of that rag tag mess a few days ago. They are not qualified to un a pet store let alone a movement.
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I was down in the middle of that rag tag mess a few days ago. They are not qualified to un a pet store let alone a movement.
If Bloomberg wasn't such a pussy he would have bounced them last week when they intended to.
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If Bloomberg wasn't such a pussy he would have bounced them last week when they intended to.
I m not kidding , if you are two blocks away from these people , you would not even know they are there.
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I m not kidding , if you are two blocks away from these people , you would not even know they are there.
I don't doubt it. The leftist MSM desperately wants a group to rise up and challenge the Tea Party. They know how bad Obama's reelection hopes are right now and they're doing everything they can to co-opt and nurture this into something they can use next year.
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I don't doubt it. The leftist MSM desperately wants a group to rise up and challenge the Tea Party. They know how bad Obama's reelection hopes are right now and they're doing everything they can to co-opt and nurture this into something they can use next year.
I was at 60 centre which is about 5 blocks north. The only sign f these people is maybe a half block north pf this.
Unless you see it in person, as i did and reported last week, you don't realize what a bs scam the media is pulling on this.
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Thieves preying on fellow protesters (Occupy Wall Street)
NY Post ^ | October 18, 2011 | LARRY CELONA, LAURA ITALIANO REBECCA HARSHBARGER, FRANK ROSARIO and JAMIE SCHRAM
Posted on October 18, 2011 6:14:36 AM EDT by lowbridge
Occupy Wall Street protesters said yesterday that packs of brazen crooks within their ranks have been robbing their fellow demonstrators blind, making off with pricey cameras, phones and laptops -- and even a hefty bundle of donated cash and food.
“Stealing is our biggest problem at the moment,” said Nan Terrie, 18, a kitchen and legal-team volunteer from Fort Lauderdale.
“I had my Mac stolen -- that was like $5,500. Every night, something else is gone. Last night, our entire [kitchen] budget for the day was stolen, so the first thing I had to do was . . . get the message out to our supporters that we needed food!”
Crafty cat burglars sneaked into the makeshift kitchen at Zuccotti Park overnight and swiped as much as $2,500 in donated greenbacks from right under the noses of volunteers who’d fallen asleep after a long day whipping up meals for the hundreds of hungry protesters, the volunteers said.
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Occupy Arrest Scam Unmasked
Townhall.com ^ | October 18, 2011 | Kyle Olson
Leftists love to get arrested at protests. It must make them feel like adults and compensates for their otherwise very childish behavior.
But new video released exclusively by EAGtv shows the protestors pre-arrange who is to be arrested. That’s right – the arrests are as scripted as a professional wrestling match, at least on the occupiers’ end.
Cameras were rolling in Chicago recently and captured Chicago Teachers Union organizers finalizing plans for who in the crowd would be arrested. That’s right – it was staged.
Comparing lists on clipboards, the footage shows two union organizers in CTU shirts questioning whether a man standing with them would be arrested or not.
Organizer 1: “He said he’s not being arrested. He’s not on the list.”
The intent is clear: Overwhelm the system. Occupy the police. Provoke confrontation. Produce beautiful footage for naïve local TV rubes reporters. Clog the courts. Gain sympathy from citizens.
But it’s all just a game. And the media is continuing to fall for the ruse.
As more fringe elements continue to emerge in the #OccupyWallStreet movement (the Nazis and Communists recently declared their support), these types of staged activities will continue. But as their actions continue and there is inaction on the part of President Obama and the Congress, look for things to take a turn for the worse.
Sadly, I’m afraid, the teachers unions’ brothers and sisters in law enforcement will be the target.
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http://occupywallst.org/forum
LMFAO! ! ! !
They started a forum!
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Los Angeles Faces $28 Million Costs Under Occupy Protest's Plan
SF Gate ^ | 10-18-11 | Chris Palmeri
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:40:49 PM by joinedafterattack
Los Angeles faces tens of million of dollars in additional borrowing costs after the City Council told anti-Wall Street protesters the city intends to cut ties with banks involved in financial wrongdoing, City Administrative Officer Miguel Santana said.
The city may have to pay $27.8 million in termination fees and replacement costs in just one program if it's prohibited from doing business with banks providing letters of credit for an infrastructure program, Santana said today in a memo to Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and city leaders. Additional debt service would cost $14.9 million a year if it has to refinance commercial paper into long-term debt at higher interest rates, Santana said in a telephone interview.
Council members in the nation's second-largest city by population passed a resolution Oct. 12 in support of the demonstrations and promising to accelerate the issuance of "report cards" rating banks on such things as foreclosures and charitable giving. The vote came after three hours of public comment, much of it by participants in Occupy Los Angeles who've camped in front of City Hall since Oct. 1.
"The financial repercussions will be immense" if the city's governing body instructs his office to stop doing business with many of it current lenders, Santana said in the report.
Council member Richard Alarcon, who sponsored the resolution, said Santana's reaction showed Occupy Los Angeles is having an effect.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/10/18/bloomberg_articlesLT8LD86K50YX.DTL#ixzz1b9jLCFfq
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Hell, No, We Won’t Toe: Neither the Wall Street banks nor the Zuccotti Park protesters believe...
City Journal ^ | 17 October 2011 | Nicole Gelinas
Neither the Wall Street banks nor the Zuccotti Park protesters believe that the rule of law applies to them.
Too big to fail is too big to allow, reads one hand-lettered sign on the east side of Zuccotti Park overlooking lower Broadway. Good point. As a few protesters (not all) understand, the problem with “the banks” isn’t that they exist, but that they’re isolated from the consistent rule of law. The bizarre irony, then, is that five weeks in, Zuccotti Park’s live-in campers are behaving more and more like the banks against which they are railing. A few dozen banks and other financial institutions—at minimum—are “too big to fail.” Back in October 2008, then–Treasury secretary Hank Paulson and Fed chief Ben Bernanke were afraid that letting big firms, such as AIG and Bank of America, go bankrupt would cause too much chaos and pain for the economic and financial systems. The government stepped in and rescued them.
The problem remains. Just last week, three European nations bailed out Dexia Bank, a global municipal lender. In the New York Times’s Dealbook, Jesse Eisinger wrote that, while Western governments “probably won’t hesitate to wipe out equity holders in failed financial institutions, . . . they will do everything they can to protect [derivatives] counterparties so that the system doesn’t collapse.” If he’s right, that means speculators and derivatives are benefiting from free government insurance, courtesy of the people who will pay for future financial crises—whether that’s taxpayers or people thrown out of work or both.
Nobody knows what will happen in any individual case because there’s no consistent rule of law to protect free markets, only the unpredictable rule of people. In particular, Republicans, who are supposed to support free markets, should spend more of their waking hours worrying about how this crisis came about and how they’d fix it. But last week, GOP presidential front-runner Mitt Romney, for one, made clear that he doesn’t think much about the too-big-to-fail disaster.
By now, the Zuccotti squatters have become too big to fail, too. New York mayor Michael Bloomberg worries that enforcing the rule of law at Zuccotti Park would cause too much chaos and pain. This time, the pain wouldn’t come in the form of economic injury in the form of years’ worth of double-digit unemployment, but in potential injury to protesters as well as to police, bad publicity for the city, and lawsuits. And just as Paulson and his successor at Treasury, Timothy Geithner, have treated financial institutions randomly, Bloomberg’s approach is similarly unpredictable: one day, he’s going to force the protesters to leave on a firm deadline; a few hours later, he backtracks, citing mysterious, unseen forces.
Coddling banks has had unfortunate unintended consequences. Thanks to its government subsidy, the financial industry is likely still bigger than it needs to be—to the detriment of other industries trying to compete for capital and talent. Coddling squatters will also have negative unintended consequences. New York City is home to dozens of parks, public and private. People live and work just yards away from them. Now, other would-be squatters can observe what’s going on at Zuccotti and draw their own conclusions. What’s to stop homeless people, for example, from pitching heated tents in Central Park? Such a situation would be awkward, at best, for the mayor, because many Zuccotti protesters are white, and many chronically homeless people are not. If the mayor were to evict squatters from some spaces and not others, New York might face lawsuits based on unequal treatment. In addition, some New York City public spaces are indoors. This past Saturday, Bank of America closed its indoor “park” in its headquarters near Bryant Park—no big mystery why. But this closure, another random action, penalizes the public.
In both cases, whom should people blame for government’s failure to enforce the law? The protesters make a common mistake in blaming the banks. But the banks are simply exploiting Washington’s weakness. The protesters should hold elected officials, not bank executives, accountable. Likewise, the protesters aren’t to blame for Bloomberg’s failure to enforce public order and private-property rights. The protesters are taking advantage of the mayor because he’s letting them. It’s understandable that Occupy Wall Street garners public sympathy (and donations). People feel disenfranchised, and they just want somebody, somewhere, to do something. But the nation can’t combat the failure to uphold the rule of law with more of the same.
Here’s a simple prescription: banks shouldn’t be too big to fail, and people shouldn’t live in public spaces.
Nicole Gelinas, a City Journal contributing editor and the Searle Freedom Trust Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, is the author of After the Fall: Saving Capitalism from Wall Street—and Washington.
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Man accused of exposing self to children arrested
By KOMO Staff Published: Oct 18, 2011 at 10:36 AM PDT
SEATTLE -- A man accused of exposing himself to children at least five times across Seattle was arrested early Tuesday morning.
Seattle police say he was taken into custody at his Kenmore residence around 1 a.m.
Officers had been given a composite sketch of the suspect and detectives learned he had been at Westlake Park taking part in the Occupy Seattle protests.
The man is accused of exposing himself three times on Sept. 29 -- once in Crown Hill, once near Alki Beach, and a third time on Capitol Hill. Three days later, he was spotted at Pinehurst Playfield near Northgate, and then again on Oct. 3 at the Lakeside soccer field in North Seattle.
In one instance, the man allegedly approached two 13-year-old girls on swings, made a comment and was engaged in a lewd act when they turned to look, according to police.
The man was booked into King County Jail for Investigation of Indecent Exposure.
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Teachers join Occupy L.A. movement with march
KABC TV Los Angeles ^ | Oct 18, 2011 | Subha Ravindhran and Robert Holguin
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:50:06 PM by kingu
DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- A strong showing is expected in downtown Los Angeles on Tuesday, as more people join the sweeping movement sparked by Occupy Wall Street protesters.
Demonstrators with the Occupy L.A. group have been living in tents outside of City Hall for about two weeks protesting against what they call corporate greed.
On Tuesday, the teacher's union will join Occupy L.A. in a march to LAUSD headquarters where the school board will be meeting. They are looking to start a second occupation site to protest teacher layoffs.
The union wants the district to re-hire the 1,200 teachers and other school workers that were laid off earlier this year.
"One of the main points of Occupy L.A. is to protect the public's sphere," said teacher Marcy Winograd. "That we share a public arena and it should be protected from corporate influence."
Winograd says one major issue is corporate charters defunding public education in LAUSD.
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Do these public sector madoffs and crooks understand where the money comes from to pay them?
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Do these public sector madoffs and crooks understand where the money comes from to pay them?
No... which is sad, because they are supposed to be TEACHERS... Teaching kids... But they are idiots.
So I guess it makes sense why they are laid off... because I don't want a bunch of morons teaching my kids.
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I m not kidding , if you are two blocks away from these people , you would not even know they are there.
I keep seeing the number seemingly go down, but the douchebags on this board are pimping it like it's hundreds of thousands of people.
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WTF!
These people are like robots and drones.
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‘Occupy Cleveland’ Protester Alleges She Was Raped
October 18, 2011 4:06 PM
Protesters camp out during the “Occupy London” rally. In Cleveland, one “Occupy Cleveland” protester claims she was raped in her tent on Saturday. (credit: Getty Images)
Cleveland Police, Occupy Cleveland, Occupy Wall Street, Parma, Public Square CLEVELAND, Ohio (CBS Cleveland) –
An “Occupy Cleveland” protester tells police she was raped in her tent over the weekend.
Cleveland police are investigating an alleged sexual assault incident Saturday at the “Occupy Cleveland” rally involving a 19-year-old female student from Parma.
According to police reports, the 19-year-old student was instructed by “Occupy Cleveland” personnel to “share a tent with the suspect due to a shortage of tents.” The suspect identified himself as “Leland” to the woman. The woman told police that after she had thought the suspect went to sleep in his own bed, she slept in a sleeping bag provided to her by the rally.
The student went to school Monday and told a teacher about her sexual assault incident in Public Square — which is being classified as “kidnapping/rape” — prompting the teacher to immediately contact the authorities.
“Occupy Cleveland” is one of many movements taking place nationwide in the wake of “Occupy Wall Street,” which is protesting against corporate greed.
Emails from CBS Cleveland to the “Occupy Cleveland” movement were not immediately returned.
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WTF!
These people are like robots and drones.
pot kettle. ;D
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pot kettle. ;D
Yeah ok Chief - remember you were one of the first ones on board with this collection of commies, dopers, hippies, thugs, druggies, leeches, etc.
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Yeah ok Chief - remember you were one of the first ones on board with this collection of commies, dopers, hippies, thugs, druggies, leeches, etc.
I still am, toolie.
I support their protest while at the same time may not support every single protester's ideals.
I am not some robot drone who when presented with something automatically dismisses it because something about it or someone who is involved in it doesn't succinctly match my programming.
Fact is, we as a nation are getting butt fucked by Banks and WS and our representatives are in neck deep in it. So i support any protest to that end. I could give a shit less if they are whacked out hippie liberals or right wing neo cons.
Thats why i can agree with you as often as i do.
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Yep, don't cry about it when our representatives/government are bought, instead just take it.
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Yep, don't cry about it when our representatives/government are bought, instead just take it.
What do you want me to do?
Go camp out with these nitwits in NYC in the filth, grime, and dirt? I posted the pics of what I saw the other day. I would not be surprised if vermin are being attracted as well as a cholera outbreak happening soon.
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What do you want me to do?
Go camp out with these nitwits in NYC in the filth, grime, and dirt? I posted the pics of what I saw the other day. I would not be surprised if vermin are being attracted as well as a cholera outbreak happening soon.
What do i want you to do?
Stop being a fucking a tool. I am not asking you to join these people. I am asking you to put the same passion in attacking anything "left" into instead attacking the very roots that's causing us to slowly lose our representative government:
Collusion between corporations, banks, lobbyists, etc with elected representatives.
That way, your attacks on the "left" way of thinking mean something.
Rigged trade policies, trade deficit, out sourcing, Bank bail outs, WS influence etc.
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What do i want you to do?
Stop being a fucking a tool. I am not asking you to join these people. I am asking you to put the same passion in attacking anything "left" into instead attacking the very roots that's causing us to slowly lose our representative government:
Collusion between corporations, banks, lobbyists, etc with elected representatives.
That way, your attacks on the "left" way of thinking mean something.
Rigged trade policies, trade deficit, out sourcing, Bank bail outs, WS influence etc.
uuuugghhhh -- I was against the bailouts, TARP, TALF, AIG, etc etc long before these dopers showed up.
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uuuugghhhh -- I was against the bailouts, TARP, TALF, AIG, etc etc long before these dopers showed up.
SO WHAT?
So now you attack their cause even though they are similar because you don't share the same ideology as some of them?
Really fucking brilliant 33333, see why i call you a tool sometimes?
So much of what you say makes so much sense yet nothing will ever get accomplished with attitudes like yours.
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SO WHAT?
So now you attack their cause even though they are similar because you don't share the same ideology as some of them?
Really fucking brilliant 33333, see why i call you a tool sometimes?
So much of what you say makes so much sense yet nothing will ever get accomplished with attitudes like yours.
Difference is I want free market capitalism - these tools want socialism.
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Difference is I want free market capitalism - these tools want socialism.
But you both want government accountable to the voters not the banks, corporations, lobbyists etc.
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But you both want government accountable to the voters not the banks, corporations, lobbyists etc.
Yeah so? These are the same people who fight to overturn citizen referendums like in Cali when gay marriage is banned, or illegals are booted off welfare.
These are the same tools who lobby on behalf of the radical enviro agenda, the radical diversity agenda, etc.
The only gripe of these people is that they did not get thwe money themselves.
These people have maybe 1% in common with me, and thats it.
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and the 1% is major.
If the 1% is fixed, what you fight for can actually happen. Until then, its just more stroking.
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and the 1% is major.
If the 1% is fixed, what you fight for can actually happen. Until then, its just more stroking.
1%. 1%. 1%.
You're a fucking sucker like the rest of the sheeple taking the Dem bait hook, like and sinker. So no one in the 1% earned their wealth, eh? They're ALL evil. ::)
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1%. 1%. 1%.
You're a fucking sucker like the rest of the sheeple taking the Dem bait hook, like and sinker. So no one in the 1% earned their wealth, eh? They're ALL evil. ::)
Why am i not surprised you assume that i would think that the 1% didn't "earn" their money.
Instead of being a tool mouthpiece all the time perhaps you should start actually start thinking for your self. That way you wouldn't come across as some abused conservative wanna be regurgitating conservative talking points. Fuck, you are getting boring.
Start by watching "Meltdown" and maybe perhaps "Too big to fail"
Then research our trade policies and our trade deficits.
Its not about the 1% earning or not earning their money. It's about our government being bought and manipulated by Banks and WS because our system is fucked up.
But i have already told you this and all you have done revert back to the same old tired ideological attacks when its nothing but that.
So keep beating your stupid ass toy drum. RUSH, Beck, and the rest of them will be proud of you, you good little soldier you.
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Meltdown? Too big to fail? You get your information from movies now? :-\
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Again - these people need to occupy the WH. Ozmo - tell me the issue and I will show you culpability at 1600 PA over the past three years.
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Meltdown? Too big to fail? You get your information from movies now? :-\
I am reading Suskinds book. Obama rebuffed Paul Volker many times, he turned away chances for real reform, etc.
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Again - these people need to occupy the WH. Ozmo - tell me the issue and I will show you culpability at 1600 PA over the past three years.
wrong place, wall street is where the rich crooks are stealing our countries wealth, setting record profits while cutting jobs, and salaries, they are trash and their actions need to be accounted for.
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Meltdown? Too big to fail? You get your information from movies now? :-\
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One is a movie the other is a documentary.
Start there. Stop trying to fight everything "non conservative"
Its not your fault that you voted for Obama. 33333 forgives you.
Show me where we didn't enact TARP, show me where we didn't bail out Bear Sterns, show me where the Treasury secretary did ask congress for a virtual blank check with no accountability and pretty much got it.
Show me where we didn't have a 1.2 trillion secret bank bail out
Show me where many of these banks that we bailed out didn't have billions in reserve cash.
Show me where we don't have rigged trade. Things like, for example, a 25% tariff on goods going to china and 2%-4% on things like goods coming into the USA from China.
Show me where we don't have a 560 billion trade deficit.
Show me where companies aren't still making good profits and not hiring people
Show me where manufacturing is up and out sourcing is down.
Show me where we are not allowing China to manipulate money markets
Do all that and i won't cite a dam movie or a documentary you mistakenly thought was a movie and i won't bring up all the other sources of our ass fucking such as things like the Panamanian free trade agreement.
It's ok bro, you are "right" so you must be right.
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Again - these people need to occupy the WH. Ozmo - tell me the issue and I will show you culpability at 1600 PA over the past three years.
I have agreed with you multiple upon multiple times. Obama doubled down on this madness. but it goes beyond what has happened just in the last 3 years or even 11 years
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And? I have been beating this dru for three years now! Only now you are waking up?
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I have agreed with you multiple upon multiple times. Obama doubled down on this madness. but it goes beyond what has happened just in the last 3 years or even 11 years
And that is Where leadership needs to start!
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wrong place, wall street is where the rich crooks are stealing our countries wealth, setting record profits while cutting jobs, and salaries, they are trash and their actions need to be accounted for.
NO.
Wall Street is the animal that our representatives have allowed to roust.
If our government wasn't bought and paid for WS wouldn't be getting away with this crap.
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And that is Where leadership needs to start!
It would be a start but it wouldn't be a fix.
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moral hazard!
Everyone say it now:
MORAL HAZARD!
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It would be a start but it wouldn't be a fix.
Read the book. Obama had it all handed to him and he folded to the gangsters. Volker warned him, Romer, etc.
the bankers were willing to do anything, Volker wanted real change, etc. From even before Obama was elected, he cast his lot w wall street and derailed real reform.
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Read the book. Obama had it all handed to him and he folded to the gangsters. Volker warned him, Romer, etc.
the bankers were willing to do anything, Volker wanted real change, etc. From even before Obama was elected, he cast his lot w wall street and derailed real reform.
Exactly!
and now that fucking scum bag is playing politics with the OWS movement and some of those idiots are buying it hook line and sinker.
What a low life piece of rabbit crap.
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I m not kidding , if you are two blocks away from these people , you would not even know they are there.
quiet protesters? i like that.
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He should be impeached and deported to Kenya.
(Kenya only because you'd love that 33333)
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One is a movie the other is a documentary.
Start there. Stop trying to fight everything "non conservative"
Its not your fault that you voted for Obama. 33333 forgives you.
Show me where we didn't enact TARP, show me where we didn't bail out Bear Sterns, show me where the Treasury secretary did ask congress for a virtual blank check with no accountability and pretty much got it.
Show me where we didn't have a 1.2 trillion secret bank bail out
Show me where many of these banks that we bailed out didn't have billions in reserve cash.
Show me where we don't have rigged trade. Things like, for example, a 25% tariff on goods going to china and 2%-4% on things like goods coming into the USA from China.
Show me where we don't have a 560 billion trade deficit.
Show me where companies aren't still making good profits and not hiring people
Show me where manufacturing is up and out sourcing is down.
Show me where we are not allowing China to manipulate money markets
Do all that and i won't cite a dam movie or a documentary you mistakenly thought was a movie and i won't bring up all the other sources of our ass fucking such as things like the Panamanian free trade agreement.
It's ok bro, you are "right" so you must be right.
Everything non conservative? You keep saying that as if it's insulting. Then you point out that I supported Obama. I'm a registered independent. I don't look at anything through a party standpoint. You have and clearly still do.
I find it laughable that you, from your high horse, are apparently Mr. Enlightened, after sucking the Obama teat up until this point. The rest of us got off the boat a long time ago, sweetheart.
By the way, I stopped reading at "TARP". I didn't support it then and I didn't support it now. And I was one of the few on this board that took that stance at the time. I'm almost 100% certain you weren't against it then.
But you go ahead and keep educating yourself with movies. LOL.
Exactly!
and now that fucking scum bag is playing politics with the OWS movement and some of those idiots are buying it hook line and sinker.
What a low life piece of rabbit crap.
Washington enables them. Cut off the head of the snake and the body will die.
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The sad thing is that Volker seems like the only one w a brain in this admn, and he was pimped out for show only.
At 80 years old he tried to help Obama, and Obama cast his lot w summers and the wall street mafia.
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Everything non conservative? You keep saying that as if it's insulting. Then you point out that I supported Obama. I'm a registered independent. I don't look at anything through a party standpoint. You have you and clearly still do.
I find it laughable that you, from your high horse, are apparently Mr. Enlightened, after sucking the Obama teat up until this point. The rest of us got off the boat a long time ago, sweetheart.
By the way, I stopped reading at "TARP". I didn't support it then and I didn't support it now. And I was one of the few on this board that took that stance at the time. I'm almost 100% certain you weren't against it then.
But you go ahead and keep educating yourself with movies. LOL.
Washington enables them. Cut off the head of the snake and the body will die.
My horse? No. Enlightened? Far from it. Disillusioned? Definitely. I have never been a OB supporter (other than wanting not to have McCain in there) and didn't know enough info when i questioned not doing the bail outs. Like you with OB, i changed my view about the Bail outs.
It's not about me insulting you with that. Its about you being a tool. You may be a "registered" independent, but that means little compared to what comes out of your mouth. So go ahead and keep trying to say you are a independent. I will start believing it when you start acting like it.
So again, if you want to demonstrate how weak your point is keep trying to belittle or ignore the examples i gave you with out addressing them.
AND, removing Obama isn't going to stop the problem. It might slow it down a little by some miracle if RP gets elected but in 4-8 years it will be back in full swing. It won't stop until some real changes are made.
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My horse? No.
It's not about me insulting you with that. Its about you being a tool. You may be a "registered" independent, but that means little compared to what comes out of your mouth. So go ahead and keep trying to say you are a independent. I will start believing it when you start acting like it.
So again, if you want to demonstrate how weak your point is keep trying to belittle or ignore the examples i gave you with out addressing them.
AND, removing Obama isn't going to stop the problem. It might slow it down a little by some miracle if RP gets elected but in 4-8 years it will be back in full swing. It won't stop until some real changes are made.
I supported Obama at one point but I'm a conservative. LOL.
Oh wait, you're another clown that votes along party lines. It's either one or the other. Try voting from an issue by issue viewpoint and lose the blindfold, sheeple.
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I supported Obama at one point but I'm a conservative. LOL.
Oh wait, you're another clown that votes along party lines. It's either one or the other. Try voting from an issue by issue viewpoint and lose the blindfold, sheeple.
So again, if you want to demonstrate how weak your point is keep trying to belittle or ignore the examples i gave you with out addressing them.
wow, pulled out the sheeple card. lol is this a CT argument?
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Obama flew in to DC to support TARP in 2008, and appointed it's author Geithner as Tres Sec remember?
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Obama flew in to DC to support TARP in 2008, and appointed it's author Geithner as Tres Sec remember?
Who is denying OB is involved neck deep in this?
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So again, if you want to demonstrate how weak your point is keep trying to belittle or ignore the examples i gave you with out addressing them.
wow, pulled out the sheeple card. lol is this a CT argument?
I stopped reading your post at TARP. Couldn't care less about someone's point when they were "enlightened" by a Hollywood movie.
There were only a handful of people on here that didn't support TARP at the time. I'm almost 100% positive you weren't one of them.
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I stopped reading your post at TARP. Couldn't care less about someone's point when they were "enlightened" by a Hollywood movie.
There were only a handful of people on here that didn't support TARP at the time. I'm almost 100% positive you weren't one of them.
Translation: I Berserker have a weak argument and all i can do is try and belittle OzmO while avoiding those examples.
Good job BF. :D
I am in Chicago, >:(, I am going to sleep. Good night man. :)
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Translation: I Berserker have a weak argument and all i can do is try and belittle OzmO while avoiding those examples.
Good job BF. :D
What argument? You were an Obama dicksucker up until two or three weeks ago. Now you look down on the plebes and constantly interject yourself in threads to criticize anyone who doesn't talk about the economy 24/7. Good example: HH6's thread about race. Yet you were nowhere to be seen for the last three years when Obama was running up the three largest yearly deficits in history. Nor are you anywhere to be seen in any of the economic threads I, 333, GW or anyone else posts. But NOW you're enlightened. In-fact, you know more than the rest of us!
All hail the ominpotent Ozmo! He watched "Too Big to Fail" and knows everything there is to know about the economic crisis. Down with the 1%, regardless of whether they earned their wealth or not!!!!
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The funny thing is that I was one of the earliest Obama critics and attacked all the time for e crazy policies early on.
yet, those who attacked me then still don't see how those policies in early 2009 are why we are still in a disaster now.
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The funny thing is that I was one of the earliest Obama critics and attacked all the time for e crazy policies early on.
yet, those who attacked me then still don't see how those policies in early 2009 are why we are still in a disaster now.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."
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Look, I did not vote for Cuomo for gov, but I admit he is doing a good job, and far better than I ever imagined.
it's not a party politics thing, Obama just sucks so bad that one can't ignore his horrendous policies.
OWS is a direct result of this failure.
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Felon with rifle arrested at Westlake Park ("Occupy Seattle")
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | October 18, 2011 | Scott Sunde
Posted on October 18, 2011 7:18:21 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Seattle police say officers have arrested a convicted felon who was carrying an unloaded rifle at Westlake Park, scene of the continuing Occupy Seattle protests.
Bicycle officers talked to the man just after 6 p.m. Monday and that he was taking part in the protests.
The 40-year-old man was carrying a rifle case over his shoulder. And police say officers heard him mention that he was carrying a "Ruger." Ruger is a gun maker.
Officers found an unloaded short-barreled rifle with a pistol grip in the case.
The man also showed police an ammunition box with 16 rounds in it.
A computer records check turned up the fact that the man is a convicted felon. Officers arrested him for a weapons violation and booked him into jail.
Police also said officers have made two additional arrests at Occupy Seattle.
Late Tuesday night, officers watched four people set up a tent at Westlake as as many as 80 people cheered then on.
They were told that camping is prohibited at the park and that they tent should be taken down....
(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.com ...
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he would probably be the first liberal in human history to own a rifle. Just sayin'.
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he would probably be the first liberal in human history to own a rifle. Just sayin'.
A lot of libs at DU have become very pro gun lately.
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A lot of libs at DU have become very pro gun lately.
youd probably call me a lib at DU.
i dont want to question your judgment or anything, Mr. Madoff 2012.
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youd probably call me a lib at DU.
i dont want to question your judgment or anything, Mr. Madoff 2012.
At least madoff knows how run a scam.
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At least madoff knows how run a scam.
but he went to prison. obama will pin FF on a mid-level PHX field worker who didn't file correct paperwork. the guy will get a promotion and a million in a suitcase, probably. It's the american way!
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but he went to prison. obama will pin FF on a mid-level PHX field worker who didn't file correct paperwork. the guy will get a promotion and a million in a suitcase, probably. It's the american way!
Problem is the emails to orally via newell.
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Problem is the emails to orally via newell.
wont matter. let's be honest. would you bet your life savings holder will step down over this?
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wont matter. let's be honest. would you bet your life savings holder will step down over this?
yes. Holder is done. The issue issue now is Obama is hitlery.
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L.A. teacher loses job over anti-Semitic comments (while attending Occupy Wall Street rally)
sf gate ^ | 10/19/2011 | ap
Los Angeles school officials say a substitute teacher has lost her job after making anti-Semitic comments during an interview.
In a statement Tuesday, schools Superintendent John Deasy condemned remarks made by Patricia McAllister during a protest rally last week.
In an Oct. 12 interview with Reason.com at a Los Angeles rally, McAllister said "Zionist Jews and the Federal Reserve" need to be run out of this country.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
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Occupy Wall Street protesters eat like kings... while rats and drugs threaten Occupy Oakland
The London Daily Mail ^ | October 19, 2011 | Mark Duell
Occupy Wall Street protesters in New York are living the high life at their campsite as they enjoy gourmet food prepared by a former hotel chef. But across the U.S. in California, police are threatening to close down the Occupy Oakland camp because of rats, alcohol and drug use on site. Thousands of Americans have joined in with nationwide protests against the economic situation as police face a tough job keeping them all in order.
Protesters are eating well in New York. Former Sheraton chef Eric Smith told the New York Post: ‘We’re running a five-star restaurant down there.'
They have enjoyed salmon cakes with dill sauce and quinoa salad - along with a tomato salad with fennel and red onion, and different kinds of soup.
The chef, who is cooking meals from a soup kitchen in Brooklyn for more than 1,000 protesters, is using organic meats, reported the New York Post.
On Tuesday night they enjoyed organic chicken, spaghetti bolognese, roasted beet and sheep’s milk-cheese salad and wild heirloom potatoes.
Many of the ingredients have been donated by small organic farms in upstate New York, as well as Vermont and Connecticut.
The food is prepared at a space donated by Overcoming Love Ministries and the food is served at the camp from 7pm, reported the New York Post.
But over in Oakland, California, a pre-existing rat problem in a city plaza has increased because of the protesters camping out there...
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What argument? You were an Obama dicksucker up until two or three weeks ago. Now you look down on the plebes and constantly interject yourself in threads to criticize anyone who doesn't talk about the economy 24/7. Good example: HH6's thread about race. Yet you were nowhere to be seen for the last three years when Obama was running up the three largest yearly deficits in history. Nor are you anywhere to be seen in any of the economic threads I, 333, GW or anyone else posts. But NOW you're enlightened. In-fact, you know more than the rest of us!
All hail the ominpotent Ozmo! He watched "Too Big to Fail" and knows everything there is to know about the economic crisis. Down with the 1%, regardless of whether they earned their wealth or not!!!!
::)
Yeah, i didn't attack Obama's economic policies until recently, so what?
Classic typical bull shit from you, go on the attack to avoid having to address what i posted.
Typical of an immature douche bag.
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OCTOBER 19--A well-known “Occupy Wall Street” protester who was arrested last Friday for kneeling down in prayer and blocking traffic in lower Manhattan is wanted in Indiana for failing to appear in court in connection with criminal charges filed after cops found him naked, intoxicated, and covered in olive oil in a public park.
The bizarre nature of the charges against Michael Donte Booth, 27, were the subject of a previous TSG story after police discovered Booth sunbathing in the altogether in a Mishawaka park on May 24.
Cops found Booth laying face up on a blanket “with his entire genitals showing.” Nearby, officers found the book “Gay Power,” a “Kroger bottle of extra virgin olive oil,” two cans of Miller beer, and Marlboro cigarettes, according to an arrest report.
Officers noted that Booth (pictured at left) was acting strangely and “kept smiling wide eyed at officers.” At one point, he told cops, “I’m from New York. Can’t I do this here?” He added, “I’m a Republican and the cigarettes pay your taxes.” In response to Booth’s nonsensical observations, officers “quickly detained him in cuffs" and used "the blanket for cover inside a police mechanical.”
Booth was charged with public indecency, public intoxication, and lying to cops about his identity (he initially claimed to be “Micheal Sampson”). While due in a St. Joseph’s County court on June 15 for a hearing on the misdemeanor counts, Booth did not show up.
As a result, a judge issued a bench warrant for Booth’s failure to appear. The warrant remains outstanding, according to a court clerk.
Booth was one of 14 "Occupy Wall Street" protesters arrested Friday morning by the NYPD for obstructing traffic on lower Broadway, blocks from the group’s Zuccotti Park encampment. Booth has been dubbed “The Praying Man" on blogs and YouTube due to his kneeling down in the streets with his hands clasped and his eyes closed.
Before his arrest, Booth received a warning from cops, who subsequently placed him in plastic handcuffs (as dozens of onlookers and press photographers recorded the collar). He is due in Manhattan Criminal Court on April 13. (2 pages)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/occupy-wall-street-wanted-man-897430
Lol.
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http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/10/19/who-is-occupying-wall-street-a-pollster-surveys-protester
Oh lord. What a collection of moon bats.
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State Department Agitator Advising ‘Occupy’ Movement
Ahmed Maher helped lead Egypt’s “Arab Spring” that resulted in military dictatorship
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Wednesday, October 19, 2011
A US government-backed pioneer of the so-called “Arab Spring” in Egypt that eventually resulted in a military dictatorship is now “advising” the Occupy Wall Street protesters in both Washington DC and New York, in another sign that the movement has been subverted by the establishment.
US State Department-funded activist Ahmed Maher “is now giving advice to a new group of protesters: the Occupy Wall Street movement,” reports Wired News.
Maher has been “corresponding for weeks” with OWS activists, offering them “practical advice from a successful Egyptian revolutionary,” according to the report.
If Wired defines replacing a 30 year tyrant with a military dictatorship under which Egyptians enjoy even less freedoms as a “successful” revolution then Maher’s involvement in the ‘Occupy’ movement should be viewed with the utmost suspicion.
As Egyptian activist Kareem Amer writes, “Egypt’s Arab Spring has led not to democracy—but to another cruel dictatorship,” under which “The military is killing minorities and imprisoning dissidents.”
Of course, you won’t have heard that little fact very often on mainstream television networks because the “Arab Spring” was advertised as an organic mass uprising. The reality that it was largely a geopolitical maneuver controlled by the United States, Britain and Israel aimed at overthrowing both rogue states and tyrants who had outlived their usefulness to the globalists doesn’t fit with the fairytale.
A D V E R T I S E M E N T
Case in point – Ahmed Maher – one of the leading revolutionaries in Egypt and now using his expertise to “advise” the OWS demonstrators, is a pawn for the US State Department.
“This of course isn’t Maher’s first trip to the United States,” writes Tony Cartalucci. “Years before the Egyptian revolution, the United States was quietly preparing a global army of youth cannon fodder to fuel region wide conflagrations throughout the world, both politically and literally. Maher’s April 6 organization had been in New York City for the US State Department’s first “Alliance for Youth Movements Summit” in 2008. His group then traveled to Serbia to train under the US-funded “CANVAS” organization before returning to Egypt in 2010 with US International Crisis Group (ICG) operative Mohamed ElBaradei to spend the next year building up for the “Arab Spring.”
As part of his role in leading the revolt against Mubarak, Maher fraternized with the likes of Zbigniew Brzezinski and George Soros through their involvement in the ICG.
Maher is the perfect candidate to firm up the ‘Occupy’ movement’s uncertain demands. He soon fell out of favor with many of his fellow activists in Egypt after they described him as acting like a “dictator” and preventing anyone else from exercising influence within the ‘April 6′ organization.
Given the fact that Maher is a US State Department-funded agitator who has been used to subvert and control protest movements in the middle east, his involvement in the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations should set alarm bells ringing.
This represents another clear signal that the establishment is intent on ensuring that the OWS movement is subverted, and that the protesters are led astray and influenced into advocating false solutions while focusing their rage against the wrong targets.
Let’s just hope that we don’t see a repeat of the outcome of the “revolution” in Egypt – tanks on the streets and a military dictatorship worse than anything which preceded it.
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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show.
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http://www.infowars.com/state-department-agitator-advising-occupy-movement
Wow!!!!
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yes. Holder is done. The issue issue now is Obama is hitlery.
over the top again as usual
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Oakland Occupy residents struggle with internal security issues
MercuryNews.com ^ | 10/19/2011 | Scott Johnson
Posted on October 19, 2011 10:46:48 PM EDT by artichokegrower
OAKLAND -- Tension had been building for days in the Occupy Oakland camp before it erupted into violence Monday and Tuesday. When it finally did, Don Hughes, a substitute teacher and full-time tent resident of the camp, found himself amid a full-blown melee.
The next thing Hughes knew he was in a headlock, then he was being punched, and then he was on the ground as a large man began to choke him.
"This is a revolution, and we want it to be open to everybody," said Hughes early Wednesday morning, "but this guy crossed too many lines."
As dawn came Wednesday, the protest's 10th day, an almost overwhelming sense of urgency was developing around the need to resolve internal security issues that have bedeviled residents and passers-by alike. The tent city that has sprung up on the steps of Oakland City Hall has attracted a diverse range of people, many with competing ideologies and world views. Homeless people, ex-convicts, at least one registered sex offender, students, unemployed hotel workers, anarchists and reform-minded activists freely mingle together in what amounts to a democracy free-for-all.
Sometimes, everyone appears to be on the same page. But the skein of civility has been frequently shattered as bullies, the mentally ill, drunks, thugs and anarchists have threatened the safety and well-being of the camp's more peaceful residents. Occupy Oakland has grown out of demonstrations that began in a New York City park a month ago as a protest against what occupiers see as corporate greed.
Organizers have stressed the need for consensus in the camp's decision-making process. But as the demands for individual safety and security have grown, the movement's priorities have begun to bump up against people's concerns for their own well-being and that of their friends and, in some cases, their children.
(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...
LoL!!!! I love this!
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http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/10/19/ows-protesters-hunker-down-in-zuccotti-park
Lmfao!!! Andersonville prison coming soon.
LOWER MANHATTAN — Dozens of people have volunteered for Occupy Wall Street's sanitation team in the past few days, in the wake of Brookfield Properties' threat to shut down Zuccotti Park to have it professionally cleaned.
But a handful of protesters are continuing to litter and refuse to help clean up, leaving the sanitation team frustrated as they battle the deluge of trash, several volunteers said.
"People just sit here — they think this is a vacation," said Lauren Digioia, 26, from Clifton, N.J., a member of Occupy Wall Street's sanitation team.
"This is an occupation. This is not a squatters' paradise…. People want us to leave them alone, but they're not doing it [cleaning] themselves."
Digioia, who gave up her waitressing job in Times Square to join the protest, said she is tired of picking up other people's cigarette butts, banana peels and plastic bottles filled with urine.
..."We work 24/7," said Digioia, who sleeps in the sanitation area each night with the most devoted volunteers.
"We do lose sleep most of the time because the trash does not stop."
But according to the article "it's getting better"
I'm sure the rats love it:
OAKLAND -- City officials said Tuesday they may have to shut down the Occupy Oakland tent city in coming days because it is attracting rats, alcohol and illegal drug use.
A pre-existing rat problem around Frank H. Ogawa Plaza, which public works employees are normally able to keep under control, has been exacerbated by the demonstrators' presence, said city administrator spokeswoman Karen Boyd.
The problem "has gotten worse with all the food and people and couches," Boyd said. Because the protest has people cycling in and out, she added, the city is having to repeat the message about how to store food and keep the area safe.
...This comes on the heels of increasing reports of illegal drug and alcohol abuse, fighting, and sexual harassment in and around the camp of about 100 tents, Boyd said. The protest has destroyed the grass lawn and it's not clear yet how much the overall expense to the city will be.
I highly doubt there are any rats in New York tho...right?
Ok, maybe there ARE rats in New York....but there would never be any Nazi's right?
Racial Comrades: I am going to address the issue of this "Occupy Wall Street" fervor that has been sweeping the land like a breath of cleansing air!
THE NATIVES ARE GETTING RESTLESS, AND ZOG FEARS IT MIGHT HAVE A POPULAR UPRISING ON ITS HANDS - finally!
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...
communist utopia at work.
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Man accused of exposing self to children arrested (Guess where he was caught)
Komo news ^ | Published: Oct 18, 2011 at 10:36 AM PDT | KOMO Staff
Posted on October 19, 2011 11:46:06 PM EDT by OL Hickory
Officers had been given a composite sketch of the suspect and detectives learned he had been at Westlake Park taking part in the Occupy Seattle protests.
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tens or hundreds of thousands of people have assembled with little to no organization, control, or direction.
and we have 3 arrests.
I can see what all the fuss is about!
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Glad to see that President Obama and the rest of the Democrats support defecating on police vehicles and exposing thier nakedness to little kids. What role models.
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The funny thing is that I was one of the earliest Obama critics and attacked all the time for e crazy policies early on.
yet, those who attacked me then still don't see how those policies in early 2009 are why we are still in a disaster now.
So when is the russian commie takeover gonna take place again?
Where is the death panels?
Problem is you focus on stupid shit instead of what is relevant making people discard you as a nut
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That collection of far left freaks ans whack jobs is going to be fun to visit in the winter.
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So when is the russian commie takeover gonna take place again?
Where is the death panels?
Problem is you focus on stupid shit instead of what is relevant making people discard you as a nut
Lmfao! 95 percent of my threads are serious, and the other 5 is petty silly shit. Some people can focus on more than a few things at once.
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Lmfao! 95 percent of my threads are serious, and the other 5 is petty silly shit. Some people can focus on more than a few things at once.
Haha fair enough:)
Quick question what is your opinion of JFK?
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Hey, Occupy Wall Street: What, No Anti-Obama Signs?
Townhall.com ^ | October 20, 2011 | Larry Elder
The Occupy Wall Street folks tell us to blame Wall Street for the nation's financial troubles. Notice the no-fly zone over President Barack Obama. Where are the anti-President Barack Obama signs or the verbal chants denouncing the President? Imagine the protests/sit-ins/rallies/mass marches on Pennsylvania Avenue -- not Wall Street -- if after two years of Republican White House leadership, America remained stuck on over 9 percent unemployment!
Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and President Barack Obama say they sympathize with the protestors. Of course, they do. After over two years of reckless spending, the inflationary printing of money, massive "stimulus" that failed to "save or create" 3.5 million jobs, green technology "investments" in soon-to-be-bankrupt companies whose investors donated to and raised money for the President's election and unpopular bailouts, the dismal results are in.
What to do?
Find a scapegoat -- provided it isn't Freddie, Fannie or the Community Reinvestment Act, the real culprits behind the housing meltdown. No, Wall Street will do nicely. Just keep Obama's name off the list of grievances:
"Greedy" investment bankers? Obama's second chief of staff, William Daley, previously worked as Midwest chairman for JPMorgan Chase. Obama's first chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, worked as an investment banker and pulled down $18 million in two-and-a-half years.
Bailouts? President Bush bailed out financial institutions, and Obama raised the ante, bailing out more companies, including GM and Chrysler.
Federal reserve? Obama reappointed Fed Chair Ben Bernanke.
Most Americans aren't buying the blame Wall Street nonsense.
One in three likely voters, according to The Hill, blame Wall Street, while 56 percent blame Washington. A USA Today/Gallup poll of all Americans found that 30 percent blame big financial institutions, with 64 percent pointing the finger at Washington. Thirty percent is still a frighteningly big number for such irresponsible scapegoating.
Yoko Ono, John Lennon's $500-million-net-worth widow, offered her support: "I love 'Occupy Wall Street'! John is sending his smile to 'Occupy Wall Street.' I am sending my love to 'Occupy Wall Street.' We are all working together. You are letting the world know that American activists are doing this. That gives them inspiration and encouragement. That is very important now for the United States and the world. As John said: 'One hero cannot do it. Each one of us have to be heroes.' And you are. Thank you. ..."
Given Ono's support for those opposing excessive greed, how does she explain away the $500 million? According to the reaction to my Facebook post on the question, not very well:
"I am betting she doesn't keep all her money in a mattress! You think she would pull all her money out of the banks or out of Wall Street? Not likely."
"Let's not forget that her late husband wrote the Marxist anthem 'Imagine' while living in a Park Avenue penthouse. 'Imagine no possessions ...'"
"She is a rich lib ... she did not earn the money she has. Thus she does not understand like most liberals what they r complaining about. Someone should ask her ... 'Hey Yoko! Thank you for working hard to keep d memory of John going. ... But d money u have now ... is it easy to keep, do u have bills to pay. ... who made your clothing ... how about d limo? Private home, vacation home ... do u shop at Walmart with d regular folks ... or at Target? U going back to ur castle in New York? How much will u give to d US Treasury?'"
"Here's a line John forgot to put in his song, 'Imagine there's no liberals. It's easy if you try.'"
"Yoko Ono!! She's still around???? Is she taking some of those nuts back to her house for shelter? Oh wait. ... They expect only US to walk the walk while they just talk and talk and talk ... and go back to their alternative universe they live in. ..."
"If she never sings again, that's gift enough for me."
"But she worked hard for her money ... oh ... never mind."
As for erasing the "wealth disparity," the protestors have their work cut out for them. A 2006 study by the World Institute for Development Economics Research looked at wealth distribution worldwide. Defining "wealth" very broadly as the sum of all assets -- not just financial assets -- minus debts, the study concluded that the top 10 percent of the world's adults control about 85 percent of world's household wealth. The top 10 percent of Americans own 69.8 percent of their country's wealth. In Switzerland, the top 10 percent own 71.3 percent, and in France it's 61 percent.
Meanwhile, on the West coast, an "Occupy L.A." protestor who identified herself as a Los Angeles Unified School District employee knows exactly whom to blame: "I think that the Zionist Jews who are running these big banks and our Federal Reserve -- which is not run by the federal government -- they need to be run out of this country."
Hey, at least she didn't blame Yoko.
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He should be impeached and deported to Kenya.
(Kenya only because you'd love that 33333)
don't let 3333 suck you into his stupid radicalism......again... blaming Obama is the easy part..he heads the gov't...but again....the Republicans have not worked with him at all and are trying to damage him at the cost of destroying our country....Obama is facing the most hostile congress I have ever seen..he did try and work with them when he first came into office but he realized they were just pulling his chain so he said forget it
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tens or hundreds of thousands of people have assembled with little to no organization, control, or direction.
and we have 3 arrests.
I can see what all the fuss is about!
exactly.....there have really not been that many arrests considering the amount of protesters and the scope of their protest which is huge
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don't let 3333 suck you into his stupid radicalism......again... blaming Obama is the easy part..he heads the gov't...but again....the Republicans have not worked with him at all and are trying to damage him at the cost of destroying our country....Obama is facing the most hostile congress I have ever seen..he did try and work with them when he first came into office but he realized they were just pulling his chain so he said forget it
Why should the GOP work with him on MengleCare, DeCAPitate & Traitor, etc?
And remember Obama's first two years when he could do whatever he wanted? Just face it - the "Black Jesus" is a miserable failure and a disgrace.
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exactly.....there have really not been that many arrests considering the amount of protesters and the scope of their protest which is huge
LMFAO - there were 75 alone in NYC the other day, rapes, robberies, assaults, drug abuse, etc. Common fare for typical leftist communists.
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Source: ABC Reporter’s Life Allegedly Threatened at Occupy Oakland;‘We Shoot White Bitches..(video)
Big Journalism ^ | Oct 20 2011 | Andrew Breibart
Source: ABC Reporter’s Life Allegedly Threatened at Occupy Oakland; ‘We Shoot White Bitches Like You Around Here’
Early yesterday morning, we received a tip from a reader in the San Francisco East Bay area who informed us that a local reporter’s life had been threatened by an activist at the Occupy Oakland demonstration.
Our source, who is fearful of reprisal and has requested anonymity, says that KGO-TV’s Amy Hollyfield was accosted by a man who threatened her and used a racial slur:
“We shoot white bitches like you around here.”
According to our source, the Oakland Police Department was apparently called to the scene. Inquiries to the police, and to Hollyfield, which began at roughly 8 a.m. Pacific time yesterday, are still unanswered today.
(Excerpt) Read more at bigjournalism.com ...
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http://bigjournalism.com/abreitbart/2011/10/20/source-abc-reporters-life-allegedly-threatened-at-occupy-oakland-we-shoot-white-bitches-like-you-around-here
wow - look at these animals. Worse than a zoo.
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http://bigjournalism.com/abreitbart/2011/10/20/source-abc-reporters-life-allegedly-threatened-at-occupy-oakland-we-shoot-white-bitches-like-you-around-here
wow - look at these animals. Worse than a zoo.
lol. Did you watch the ones where the protestors don't want to give the reporters their 1st Amendment rights, but were demanding their 1st Amendment rights be honored?
What a bunch of fucking clowns.
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lol. Did you watch the ones where the protestors don't want to give the reporters their 1st Amendment rights, but were demanding their 1st Amendment rights be honored?
What a bunch of fucking clowns.
I liked the one with the pit bull biting the reporters' jacket.
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I liked the one with the pit bull biting the reporters' jacket.
Yeah, attack the reporter who you want to pass out your message. Just as long as the reporter only portrays things exactly as they want them portrayed. ::)
That supposed leader couldn't even answer the fucking question.
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Whoa: Occupy Baltimore Doesn't Want Police Involved for Rape
Townhall ^ | October 20, 2011 | Kate Hicks, Web Editor
Did you get raped at Occupy Baltimore? Well, call the police if you must, but do you really want to be the one putting a damper on our good ol' fashioned protest?
So seems to be the sentiment behind Occupy Baltimore's "Security Statement." The document touts the protest's plan for how to deal with sexual assault, and it's getting attention for lines like this:
Though we do not encourage the involvement of the police in our community, the survivor has every right, and the support of Occupy Baltimore, to report the abuse to the appropriate law enforcement.
Granted, while the document doesn't prohibit the involvement of police per se, it does present contacting the police as a negative or discouraged activity. Sure, we can understand why you'd want to get the cops involved, but we'd rather take care of this ourselves.
And indeed, that's just what they wish to do. In the interest of creating a self-contained, self-governing community, the pamphlet urges vicitims of sexual assault to contact the "Security Committee":
Any member of the Occupy Baltimore community who believes he/she/they have been a victim of, are aware of, or suspect a commission of sexual abuse, are encouraged to immediately report the incident to the Security Committee. T (sic)
The point person for dealing with these situations will be Koala! (sic) Largess, (443) 642-XXXX.
Survivors of Sexual Abuse will be given the support, resources, and assistance needed for their emotional and physical health.
Nevermind the fact that it treats a grave, life-changing, psychologically damaging crime as a simple incident that can be resolved with the undoubtedly limited resources these Occupiers have on hand. Nevermind the colossal, long-term damage done to a rape victim, which may require medical attention and frequently requires psychological help. Sexual assault is also a crime, punishable by law, with a recidivism rate of about 52%. And how, exactly do these Occupiers propose to deal with the offenders?
Occupy Baltimore’s Security Committee will make every reasonable effort to keep the matters involved in the allegation as confidential as possible while still allowing for a prompt and thorough inquiry. All allegations of abuse will be treated seriously and thoroughly investigated.
If the survivor wishes to involve law enforcement, in order to obtain physical evidence of the assault, you must report the incident within 72 hours [note: this is not true, a victim has a 120 hour window in which forensic evidence may still be collected] or the assault as collection and preservation of evidence is critical. Occupy Baltimore will also work to supply the abuser with counseling resources to deal with their issues.
That's the skewed worldview of the millenial generation: everyone gets to be a victim, even the rapist. Rape is just a result of a person's "issues" that requires counseling. It's not your fault. You didn't do something morally wrong; it's your messed up childhood, or your perceived social oppression, or your rage at the state that drove you to sexually violate another human being. Prison won't help rehabillitate you and make you a functioning member of society. Therapy will.
The author of the memo--a survivor of such abuse herself--says as much:
The author of the memo, 26-year-old Melissa "Koala" Largess, said she only wanted to let victims know that there are alternative ways of dealing with an attacker, though she said she had once been involved in an abusive relationship and needed the police's help.
Largess said she wanted "the person who harmed me to work on issues and get the help needed to be a functioning member of society."
"There are a lot of ways people can deal with assault and conflict," she said. "The way we all know is to make someone wrong and punish them instead of work with them to correct their behavior."
Largess said that as a victim, she found support groups "confining" but, she stressed, "I'm not against people taking the steps they feel they need to stay safe. … From my own perspective and experience, I understand the necessity of calling police."
True, there have been recent efforts to focus on reducing recidivism rates in sexual assault cases through counseling during imprisonment, an admirable cause that I do not oppose. But Largess also suggests that we should not emphasize that rape is wrong--a sentiment antithetical to her desire to "fix" such behavior. If we don't start with the basic premise that rape is wrong, then why, exactly, shouldn't rape be acceptable?
This begs a larger question, one of the protest as a whole: if sexual assault isn't wrong, then why is corporate greed? Let's arrest those evil, greedy bankers, but leave the police out of sexual assault. It's not wrong. It's a result of a psychological disorder.
The select moral standards these protesters express reveal how completely they lack an understanding of right and wrong. To them, something is "right" if it involves me getting what I want, not because it is good and true. Unfortunately, victims of sexual assault at Occupy Baltimore would also be victims of faulty moral premises, too.
Solely because they wish to be autonomous from the state--or is it because they wish to keep such incidents under wraps for PR purposes?--the Occupy Baltimore movement has discouraged victims from pursuing necessary recourse for recovery and justice, and allows sexual offenders--criminals--to remain free and address their "issues."
All for the cause. The morally-confused cause.
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Occupy Toronto "This Man Was in my Tent Sniffing my Girlfriend’s Feet”
Stephen Gutowski
Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 10:55am
http://mrctv.org/videos/occupy-toronto-man-was-my-tent-sniffing-my-girlfriend%E2%80%99s-feet%E2%80%9D
A man is arrested at Occupy Toronto after allegedly smelling a woman's feet and trying to get other protesters to drink urine.
The Protester who uploaded this video also left this comment on it claiming his girlfriend was groped by this man as well:
"He was also groping her but I failed to mention due to being a bit emotionally tied up. Evidently the cop and I cleared it up wish I could have reacted perfectly. If I didn`t get this evidence I feel those who were still in the tent would have discovered it."
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Occupy Toronto "This Man Was in my Tent Sniffing my Girlfriend’s Feet”
Stephen Gutowski
Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 10:55am
http://mrctv.org/videos/occupy-toronto-man-was-my-tent-sniffing-my-girlfriend%E2%80%99s-feet%E2%80%9D
A man is arrested at Occupy Toronto after allegedly smelling a woman's feet and trying to get other protesters to drink urine.
The Protester who uploaded this video also left this comment on it claiming his girlfriend was groped by this man as well:
"He was also groping her but I failed to mention due to being a bit emotionally tied up. Evidently the cop and I cleared it up wish I could have reacted perfectly. If I didn`t get this evidence I feel those who were still in the tent would have discovered it."
LOL! Dick Morris approved. :)
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Angry Manhattan residents lambast Zuccotti Park protesters (They're defecating on our doorsteps)
NY Post ^ | 10/20/11 | JOSH SAUL
Posted on October 20, 2011 8:58:40 PM EDT by jimbo123
Infuriated lower Manhattan residents went ballistic on Zuccotti Park protesters at a chaotic Community Board 1 meeting tonight while blasting politicians for allowing the siege to continue without any end in sight.
"They are defecating on our doorsteps," fumed Katherine Hughes, a stay at home mom who has the misfortune of living one block from the chaos. "A lot of people are very frustrated. A lot of people are concerned about the safety of our kids."
Fed up homeowners said that they've been subjected to insults and harassment as they trek to their jobs each morning. "The protesters taunt people who are on their way to work," said James Fernandez, 51, whose apartment overlooks the park. "I walk out of my apartment and see people urinating on my steps."
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Report: Occupy Oakland Devolves into “Lord of the Flies”
Verum Serum ^ | October 20, 2011 | Verum Serum
Posted on October 20, 2011 10:15:52 PM EDT by DogByte6RER
Report: Occupy Oakland Devolves into “Lord of the Flies”
John on October 20, 2011 at 12:01 am
From the Oakland Tribune:
The next thing Hughes knew he was in a headlock, then he was being punched, and then he was on the ground as a large man began to choke him.
This happened as Hughes, a substitute teacher and Occupy Oakland resident, tried to keep a larger man who also lived in the camp from threatening a woman there. Finally, after another threatening incident involving the same individual, the occupiers had had enough:
About 3:30 Tuesday afternoon, a group of roughly 50 people gathered by the man’s tent and told him he had to leave. Some were speaking calmly. Others weren’t. It was then that the man pulled out a large kitchen knife and threatened the whole group…It was only when someone picked up a piece of wood and cracked him across the head that the ordeal ended.
Self-realization dawns on at least one of the occupiers:
“At some point, we have to recognize that we can’t control everything,” said Boomer Frank, a 24-year-old tent resident and ad hoc camp organizer. “I’m anti-authoritarian, but we need to acknowledge that some things are out of our control.”
If only they could apply that lesson a little more broadly, e.g. to the police, to the economy as a whole even. Appropriately, it’s the cops who patrol the camp that get it. One officer compared the scene to “Lord of the Flies.” His supervisor was even more insightful:
One Oakland police supervisor said that the participants first appeared to him as “freethinking activists” but have since devolved into something more sinister. He said it was “interesting for a group that claims to be against current civilization and rules to set up a far more oppressive society than our own.”
Very interesting indeed.
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Report: Occupy Oakland Devolves into “Lord of the Flies”
Verum Serum ^ | October 20, 2011 | Verum Serum
Posted on October 20, 2011 10:15:52 PM EDT by DogByte6RER
Report: Occupy Oakland Devolves into “Lord of the Flies”
John on October 20, 2011 at 12:01 am
From the Oakland Tribune:
The next thing Hughes knew he was in a headlock, then he was being punched, and then he was on the ground as a large man began to choke him.
This happened as Hughes, a substitute teacher and Occupy Oakland resident, tried to keep a larger man who also lived in the camp from threatening a woman there. Finally, after another threatening incident involving the same individual, the occupiers had had enough:
About 3:30 Tuesday afternoon, a group of roughly 50 people gathered by the man’s tent and told him he had to leave. Some were speaking calmly. Others weren’t. It was then that the man pulled out a large kitchen knife and threatened the whole group…It was only when someone picked up a piece of wood and cracked him across the head that the ordeal ended.
Self-realization dawns on at least one of the occupiers:
“At some point, we have to recognize that we can’t control everything,” said Boomer Frank, a 24-year-old tent resident and ad hoc camp organizer. “I’m anti-authoritarian, but we need to acknowledge that some things are out of our control.”
If only they could apply that lesson a little more broadly, e.g. to the police, to the economy as a whole even. Appropriately, it’s the cops who patrol the camp that get it. One officer compared the scene to “Lord of the Flies.” His supervisor was even more insightful:
One Oakland police supervisor said that the participants first appeared to him as “freethinking activists” but have since devolved into something more sinister. He said it was “interesting for a group that claims to be against current civilization and rules to set up a far more oppressive society than our own.”
Very interesting indeed.
This has been well documented throughout history. Hi, Pol Pot!
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Five cited for trespassing following Occupy protest in Bloomfield Twp.
Oakland Press ^ | 12-18-2011 | ANN ZANIEWSKI
Posted on October 21, 2011 2:00:23 AM EDT by Darren McCarty
Five people were cited for trespassing after they refused to leave a local political party office during a protest believed to be tied to the Occupy Wall Street movement.
Police were called Monday afternoon when 50 to 75 protesters filled the lobby of the Oakland County Republican Party offices on Woodward Avenue in Bloomfield Township.
Five protesters who refused to leave after police arrived — Detroit residents Tyrann Chauncey, 39, Tinia Fleming, 22, Earraina Jones, 48, Jaylen Jordan, 18, and Darryl Alston, 54 — were arrested.
Bloomfield Township Police Capt. Scott McCanham said all five were issued citations for trespassing, a misdemeanor under local ordinance. Each person posted a $100 bond and was released.
McCanham said the protesters were from a group called Good Jobs Now. He said a bystander said the demonstration was a result of Republican lawmakers in Washington voting down a jobs bill proposed by President Barack Obama.
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Oakland to Occupiers: Get out
posted at 9:25 am on October 21, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
Occupy Wall Street might be getting the most attention, but Occupy Oakland might be the next flashpoint. The city has decided that the demonstrators have had plenty of time to make their point, and that their behavior has gotten bad enough to become a public safety problem. Late last night, Oakland issued an order to the Occupiers to leave the plaza that they have commandeered for most of a fortnight (via JWF):
A document titled “Notice to Vacate Frank Ogawa Plaza” was posted on the city’s website at 8 p.m. by the office of City Administrator Deanna Santana. It said Oakland was committed to allowing free speech, but also had a responsibility to protect public safety.
“We believe that after 10 days, the City can no longer uphold public health and safety,” the notice said. “In recent days, camp conditions and occupants’ behavior have significantly deteriorated, and it is no longer manageable to maintain a public health and safety plan.”
The document cited fire hazards, sanitation issues, a growing rat problem and graffiti. It referred to an “increasing frequency of violence, assaults, threats and intimidation” and complained that protesters had denied access to “emergency personnel to treat injured persons and to police to patrol the Plaza.”
“As a result of these serious conditions, the Administration has determined that facilitating this expression of speech is no longer viable, nor in the interest of public health and safety,” the order said. “Peaceful daytime assembly will continue to be allowed between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. daily. No tents or overnight camping permitted.”
If that sounds ugly, it’s not much behind the flagship occupation at Wall Street. Local residents in the Zuccotti Park neighborhood have had enough of the destructive presence of the protesters — and from the description of the OWS behavior, it’s difficult to blame them:
“They are defecating on our doorsteps,” fumed Katherine Hughes, a stay at home mom who has the misfortune of living one block from the chaos. “A lot of people are very frustrated. A lot of people are concerned about the safety of our kids.”
Fed up homeowners said that they’ve been subjected to insults and harassment as they trek to their jobs each morning. “The protesters taunt people who are on their way to work,” said James Fernandez, 51, whose apartment overlooks the park.
Board member Paul Cantor said that residents are fed up with the incessant racket that emanates from the protest at all hours. “It’s mostly a noise issue,” he said. If people can’t sleep and children can’t sleep because the protesters are banging drums then that’s a problem.”
Well, they were defecating on police cars too, and that didn’t seem to move the city into action. Oakland has its limits; New York City … not so much, it seems. Still, the complaints worried some of the protest organizers, who tried to get the crowd to clean up its act regarding drum circles and dropping deuces on neighborhood stoops. As New York Magazine reported, if the protesters acted like extras from Delta in Animal House, their attempts to organize a response and control the drumming comes straight out of Animal Farm:
But the drums were fun. They brought in publicity and money. Many non-facilitators were infuriated by the decision and claimed that it had been forced through the General Assembly.
“They’re imposing a structure on the natural flow of music,” said Seth Harper, an 18-year-old from Georgia. “The GA decided to do it … they suppressed people’s opinions. I wanted to do introduce a different proposal, but a big black organizer chick with an Afro said I couldn’t.”
To Shane Engelerdt, a 19-year-old from Jersey City and self-described former “head drummer,” this amounted to a Jacobinic betrayal. “They are becoming the government we’re trying to protest,” he said. “They didn’t even give the drummers a say … Drumming is the heartbeat of this movement. Look around: This is dead, you need a pulse to keep something alive.”
So what did the organizers decide to try? A drum tax. Suddenly, the drummers looked from pig to man and man to pig and couldn’t tell the difference:
The drummers claim that the finance working group even levied a percussion tax of sorts, taking up to half of the $150-300 a day that the drum circle was receiving in tips. “Now they have over $500,000 from all sorts of places,” said Engelerdt. “We’re like, what’s going on here? They’re like the banks we’re protesting.”
And how did organizers of this free-speech demonstration react? By, er, telling people they couldn’t talk to the press:
As the communal sleeping bag argument between Lauren Digion and Sage Roberts threatened to get out of hand, a facilitator in a red hat walked by, brow furrowed. “Remember? You’re not allowed to do any more interviews,” he said to Digion. She nodded and went back to work. But when Roberts shouted, “Don’t tell me what to do!” Digion couldn’t hold back.
“Someone has to be told what to do,” she said. “Someone needs to give orders. There’s no sense of order in this f*****g place.”
George Orwell would be proud. Anyone with an assigned reading project for Animal Farm should really be taking notes.
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LMFAO! Priceless.
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Zuccotti neighbors: Stop dumping on us
By JOSH SAUL
Posted: 2:32 AM, October 21, 2011
Livid lower Manhattan residents went off on Zuccotti Park protesters at a heated Community Board 1 meeting last night and blasted politicians for not controlling the chaos.
“They’re defecating on our doorsteps,” fumed board member Catherine Hughes, a stay-at-home mom who lives one block from the protest. “The cowbells start at 4 a.m. and the drumming goes past 10 a.m. A lot of people are very frustrated. A lot of people are concerned about the safety of our kids.”
Fed-up homeowners said they’ve been insulted and harassed as they trek to their jobs each morning. “The protesters taunt people who are on their way to work,” said James Fernandez, 51.
The meeting, packed with more than 200 people, spilled out onto the street, where Zuccotti sympathizers began sparring with their critics.
Board member Paul Cantor said sleepless residents can’t take the incessant racket. “If people can’t sleep ... then that’s a problem,” he said.
Despite the complaints, the board unanimously voted for a resolution supporting the protesters’ right to stay in the park but called for a crackdown on noise, public urination and defecation, and disruptive barricades.
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Bunch of slobs.
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This has been well documented throughout history. Hi, Pol Pot!
over the top again as usual
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Occupy Wall Street Demands Global UN Tax and Worldwide G20 Protest
Investment Watch ^ | October 20th, 2011 | Investment Watch staff
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 10:50:21 AM by opentalk
Occupy’s busting out on a new path … So Adbusters is asking people all around the world to march on Oct. 29. “We want to send a clear message that we the people want to slow down this global casino.” And Adbusters does have one specific demand, a 1 percent tax on financial-sector transactions. Some form of that idea, known as the “Robin Hood” tax.
Dominant Social Theme: We want justice for the world and the UN will give it to us.
Free-Market Analysis: Kalle Lasn, founder of Adbusters magazine, based in Vancouver, B.C. – the magazine that issued the call for the initial Occupy Wall Street protests – has called on people to protest the upcoming G20 while demanding a one-percent tax on financial transactions.
..The financial sales tax has been around for a very long time but has found its most recent voice in a column by Jerry Large of the Seattle Times. He recently gained an exclusive interview with Kalle Lasn, who sounds as if he hopes that a large protest on Oct 29th will mark the beginning of a push for such a tax.
What’s going on is pure one-worldism, an OWS ideology that is gradually revealing itself in dribs and drabs. It is one reason that that the OWS leaders have made no specific demands. They have hoped to create a momentum, apparently, before revealing what they are truly after. The movement seems to be part of a larger wave of directed history that has been in play for at least a century and is now reaching a dénouement.
The one-percent tax has been a staple of United Nations demands for more than a decade. Google UN and “one-percent tax” and plenty of information will appear – over three million citations, in fact.
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What a lunatic. Typical 95% pofs.
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'Occupy' memo could discourage victims from reporting assaults ( Baltimore )
The Baltimore Sun ^ | October 19, 2011 | Peter Hermann
Efforts by the Occupy Baltimore protest group to evolve into a self-contained, self-governing community have erupted into controversy with the distribution of a pamphlet that victim advocates and health workers fear discourages victims of sexual assaults from contacting police.
The pamphlet says that members of the protest group who believe they are victims or who suspect sexual abuse "are encouraged to immediately report the incident to the Security Committee," which will investigate and "supply the abuser with counseling resources."
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the heads of three rape crisis centers and a nurse who runs the forensic division at Mercy Medical Center called the message about not involving police dangerous. They said it contains erroneous information that could undermine efforts to convince victims to properly report crimes and get the counseling they need.
"It might actually passively prevent someone from seeking justice," said Jacqueline Robarge, the executive director of Power Inside, a nonprofit support group that helps women who have been victimized.
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Police in Cleveland said a 19-year-old woman was raped at an Occupy protest there, and authorities in Oakland and in Seattle have reported sexual assaults and incidents of indecent exposure.
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Florida banker's wife left family to join Wall Street protesters
By KEVIN FASICK and BOB FREDERICKS
Last Updated: 9:49 AM, October 21, 2011
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A married mother of four from Florida ditched her family to become part of the raggedy mob in Zuccotti Park -- keeping the park clean by day and keeping herself warm at night with the help of a young waiter from Brooklyn.
“I’m not planning on going home,” an unapologetic Stacey Hessler, 38, told The Post yesterday.
“I have no idea what the future holds, but I’m here indefinitely. Forever,” said Hessler, whose home in DeLand sits 911 miles from the tarp she’s been sleeping under.
Hessler -- who ironically is married to a banker -- arrived 12 days ago and planned to stay for a week, but changed her plans after cozying up to some like-minded radicals, including Rami Shamir, 30, a waiter at a French bistro in Cobble Hill, Brooklyn.
She swears she’s not romantically involved with her new friend.
VIDEO: FLORIDA MOM JOINS PROTEST IN NYC
ZUCCOTTI NEIGHBORS: STOP DUMPING ON US
Yesterday was a typical day for the pair, who woke up at 8 a.m. on their little patch of paving stone near the communal kitchen and dashed off to Trinity Church to wash up.
Hessler emerged an hour later, her brown hair in dreadlocks, wearing a T-shirt depicting Han Solo and Princess Leia kissing, and bearing the slogan “Make Love Not War.”
She got coffee and a granola bar from the protest kitchen before sorting laundry for two hours.
The unemployed Long Island native compared her decision to abandon her family to Americans serving in the armed forces.
“Military people leave their families all the time, so why should I feel bad?” a defiant Hessler said. “I’m fighting for a better world.”
She said she had been following the movement on Facebook, and the more she learned, the more obsessed she became with joining the demonstrators.
At around 11 a.m. yesterday, Hessler moved from laundry duty to park cleanup -- a four-hour detail from which she broke just once to give a troubled protester a hug at the “empathy table.” She also found time for a meditation session later in the day.
Hessler has spoken with her family -- husband Curtiss, 42; son Peyton, 17; and daughters Kennedy 15, Sullivan, 13, and Veda, 7 -- just three times since leaving them. “Friends are taking care of them,” she said.
Not everyone has supported her decision. “My mother told me I was being very selfish,” she admitted.
And her husband, a former Bank of America financial adviser who now works at a local Florida bank, is perplexed. “He says he’s working for ‘the Man,’ and I’m fighting against him,” she said.
After finishing her morning routine and afternoon chores yesterday, Hessler spent the evening attending organizer meetings and helping fellow protesters find sleeping spots.
Hessler herself bedded down on an air mattress at 12:28 a.m., ready to do it all over again today.
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obama's killing bad guys left and right... the GOP field looks like shit... Tea party has lost momentum... and even tho the OWS clods are whiny douchebags, they are united and they're more likely to vote dem than repub. THey get the same number of votes that you do.
to the repub viewpoint, this is a shitty month.
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Hot chicks of OWS - http://vimeo.com/30476100 (http://vimeo.com/30476100)
http://hotchicksofoccupywallstreet.tumblr.com/ (http://hotchicksofoccupywallstreet.tumblr.com/)
This should lighten the thread and bring some consensus :P
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Are they making progress toward their cause?
What is their goal (I'm not being a smart ass I'm just still unclear on their goal..I know they "hate capitalism" but what is it that they want to establish)?
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Are they making progress toward their cause?
What is their goal (I'm not being a smart ass I'm just still unclear on their goal..I know they "hate capitalism" but what is it that they want to establish)?
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OK I do think that some people involved in the protest may have mental issues but what about the ones that don't....what is it that that want to accomplish? Are they wanting Socialism?
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OK I do think that some people involved in the protest may have mental issues but what about the ones that don't....what is it that that want to accomplish? Are they wanting Socialism?
I don't think they know what they want. Someone forwarded this to me today. Look at the "What is Occupy Honolulu?" section. They don't say what they want or what they're trying to accomplish.
I lol @ the potluck gathering. :)
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: OccupyHonoluluGA@gmail.com
OCCUPY HONOLULU
From the occupied ‘āina of Hawai'i in solidarity with
the peoples of occupied lands worldwide
Community Gathering
Saturday, October 22 from 12-4pm
Magic Island by the parking lot
The Occupy Honolulu General Assembly announces a community gathering to be held from 12-4pm on Saturday, October 22, 2011 at Magic Island, Ala Moana Beach Park. The gathering will be a potluck and fair style event and will feature a variety of activities including food, music, art, workshops, and teach-ins. A soap box is scheduled from 3-4pm so individuals may share their stories and their reasons for becoming involved with the movement. There will also be sign waving on Ala Moana and Atkinson to spread our message to the public. This will be a family friendly event and children are welcome. Participants are asked to bring their own reusable mess kits and water bottles. Want to learn more about Occupy Honolulu? Want to have your voice heard? Want to meet others in the community seeking a better world? Please join us.
What is Occupy Honolulu? Occupy Honolulu, in solidarity with Occupy Wall Street, is a leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%. We are using the revolutionary Arab Spring tactic to achieve our ends and encourage the use of nonviolence to maximize the safety of all participants. We will not be silent. Join us.
Upcoming Events: Occupy Honolulu has a general assembly meeting scheduled for Saturday, October 22nd at 4pm at Magic Island following the community gathering. Additional general assembly meetings are scheduled for Sunday 10/23, Monday 10/24, and Tuesday 10/25 at 6pm at Thomas Square (925 South Beretania Street). The general assembly makes all decisions using a consensus process to ensure that all voices are heard. All members of the community are welcome to attend.
For more information, visit www.deoccupyhonolulu.org
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with all the tweeting and nonstop surfing on their hotspots in public parks... they've probably made a lot of money for the corporations they're hating on.
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with all the tweeting and nonstop surfing on their hotspots in public parks... they've probably made a lot of money for the corporations they're hating on.
Don't tell them that. They're too busy levying 50% tax rates on the drummers.
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Don't tell them that. They're too busy levying 50% tax rates on the drummers.
Can you say something intelligent for a change???
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Can you say something intelligent for a change???
How cute, Captain Retard to the rescue.
Intelligent. 50-year-old college student. Haha.
I'm sorry that these morons are protesting corporations from their iPhones and macbooks, all of which are produced in China by the largest corporation in the world by market cap.
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How cute, Captain Retard to the rescue.
Intelligent. 50-year-old college student. Haha.
I'm sorry that these morons are protesting corporations from their iPhones and macbooks, all of which are produced in China by the largest corporation in the world by market cap.
okay..now you make a good observation....I find that to be really funny myself.....they don't realize that these gadgets are one of the causes of the problem......I think one of the reasons why Americans are having a hard time making ends meet is due to their constantly buying these dumb gadgets they don't need...and paying the high monthly fees to maintain them..
by the way....you can make fun of me being in school at almost 50 ..but I'm in doctorate school....going to be a psychologist....changing careers.....nothing wrong with that....meanwhile...how's that GED studying going????
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OWS Gives Rules on Reporting Assaults (Libs Are Pro-Rape)
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bal-occupy-security-statement,0,7071518.htmlpage ^
Posted on October 21, 2011 8:56:16 PM EDT by TigerClaws
Link is to a pamphlet given to protesters.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bal-occupy-security-statement,0,7071518.htmlpage
Failure to report a felony such as rape and covering it up is a crime in itself.
Also interesting to see the treatment of women. Where are the feminists on this??
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San Diego 'Occupy' protest shuts down bank branch
scpr.org ^ | Oct 21 2011 | KPCC & wires
Posted on October 21, 2011 4:20:50 PM EDT by NoLibZone
Occupy Wall Street protesters in San Diego caused a downtown bank branch to shut down Thursday afternoon.
The San Diego Union-Tribune says several dozen protesters sat down in front of a Bank of America branch, causing the bank to close early at 1:30 p.m.
Access to ATMs were still allowed though.
"It's not really a Bank of America thing," 26-year-old Michael Basillas told the Union-Tribune. "It's much more of a symbol, one of many banks that screw people over all the time."
The Union-Tribune reports that there were about eight police officers watching over the 30 to 40 demonstrators as they yelled through a bullhorn, "We are the 99 percent!"
Police say the demonstrators never entered the bank and no arrests were made.
The demonstration is one of several around the country over bank bailouts and economic disparities.
The Associated Press contributed to this story
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#Occupy Emails Reveal ‘Trojan Horse’ Strategy to Hide Socialist, Anarchist Goals of OWS 'Mob'
Breitbart Presents Big Government ^ | 10/20/11 | Lee Stranahan
Posted on October 21, 2011 7:24:20 PM EDT by Tanniker Smith
A search of the email cache that BigGovernment released last week reveals that the #Occupy movement is largely driven by socialists and anarchists who realize they need to conceal their actual message and goals in order to appeal to the political mainstream. The goal of #Occupy is to build large enough numbers where a ‘mob mentality’ takes over so they achieve their real aim of overthrow, as evidenced by a statement from one of the #Occupy movement’s earliest and strongest advocates:
…when the numbers are big enough, they will feel their oats, get impatient, and start demanding more than you could have imagined. (Never underestimate mob mentality.) But if you talk about overthrowing governments, capitalism or wholesale changes, most of the 99% will be scared off, and we’ll never have the power we need to affect real change.
This “Trojan Horse” agenda of deceiving the public about the real nature of the #Occupy movement was discussed in casual terms in the emails by John McGloin, a New Yorker who was one of the early organizers of #Occupy this past summer. I spoke with Mr. McGloin this week to confirm his involvement in the #OccupyWallStreet demonstration at the earliest possible stage, and I have included his (unedited) response to this article below.
In a story on CBS New York’s website in early September about the early planning for “Occupy Wall Street,” McGloin acts as a sort of unofficial spokesman in the comments section. His remarks indicate that he is clearly involved in the event planning, and he fields questions and invites people to participate in the #Occupy event.
In the email cache, McGloin introduced himself on October 8th and said he had been working with the “General Assembly” of the movement a month before #Occupy launched:
(Excerpt) Read more at biggovernment.com ...
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a million marchers and 3 crimes. yes, they're animals.
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a million marchers and 3 crimes. yes, they're animals.
Are you drunk?
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Are you drunk?
nope, haven't drank in weeks. for real tho - it's been weeks and overall, it's been a well behaved group.
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nope, haven't drank in weeks. for real tho - it's been weeks and overall, it's been a well behaved group.
WTF! Rapes, burglary, theft, rioting, et al are ok by you?
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OWS Protesters’ Restroom Issues, Constant Noise Driving Residents Crazy
newyork.cbslocal.com ^
Posted on October 21, 2011 8:12:00 PM EDT by Sub-Driver
OWS Protesters’ Restroom Issues, Constant Noise Driving Residents Crazy
Man Claims Demonstrater Urinated In Tupperware, Dumped Contents In Street October 21, 2011 7:42 PM
NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — “Occupy Wall Street” is ending its fifth week, and some area residents are fighting mad over the chaos created by the protesters’ encampment.
As CBS 2’s Mark Morgan reports, some say the park is turning into a noisy, raucous headache that won’t go away.
To the protestors, the sound of drums is the sound of democracy in action. But to some residents who live in the area, it’s just noise — and it’s becoming unbearable.
“There is drumming. There are trumpets. There are bugles. There are tambourines. There’s yelling and shouting and chanting late into the night,” resident Ro Sheffe said.
“If my daughter was drumming in my house for 14 hours … I’d murder her,” another woman said.
(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...
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WTF! Rapes, burglary, theft, rioting, et al are ok by you?
rioting? really?
i was under the impression they were a bunch of wussies.
31% "believe" using violence is okay, according to polls.
What 31% of these million have gotten violent?
BillO is admitting right now that they're still being good, but they COULD act up.
Where are the riots, 333386?
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Health expert condemns park rats (Zuccotti Park)
New YOrk Post ^ | Oct. 22, 2011 | ANTONIO ANTENUCCI and CARL CAMPANILE
Posted on October 22, 2011 8:44:20 AM EDT by libstripper
Close this pigpen!
Filth-ridden Zuccotti Park is a breeding ground for bacterial infection loaded with potential health-code violations that pose a major risk to the public, an expert who inspected the area warned.
“It’s like Walmart for rats,’’ Wayne Yon, an expert on city health regulations, said yesterday.
“There’s a lack of sanitation, a lack of controls for hot and cold water,” Yon said. He saw at least 15 violations of the city’s health code -- the type that would easily shut down a food establishment.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
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a million marchers and 3 crimes. yes, they're animals.
youre fucking joking right?
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youre fucking joking right?
I really don't know what happened to him.
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nope, haven't drank in weeks. for real tho - it's been weeks and overall, it's been a well behaved group.
this is true...I am not happy about the protesters but the tea party groups get together for a half an hour....meanwhile these protesters have been demonstrating for weeks on end with very few arrests relatively
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a million marchers and 3 crimes. yes, they're animals.
A million? Haha, not even close.
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A million? Haha, not even close.
3 crimes?
LOL
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Winter woes threaten Wall Street occupiers
Asiaone ^ | Oct 22, 2011 | AFP
Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:28:31 PM by mdittmar
NEW YORK - They put on a gritty war face and insist they are more determined now than ever, but the Occupy Wall Street campers now face the slow advance of an unrelenting enemy: the New York winter.
As freezing winds blew Friday over the epicenter of their protests, Zuccotti Park in Manhattan, the demonstrators were already huddling in significantly reduced numbers.
At night, the several hundred people who sleep on site in the financial district bundle up as best they can under plastic tarps, hunkering down in sleeping bags and emergency blankets as tents are forbidden on the plaza.
Many sleep with bonnets and scarves. But the worst has yet to come.
"So far, we have been extremely blessed," said Cynthia Villarreal, who has slept at Zuccotti for 18 days.
Ever since the anti-corporate protest movement began on September 17, OWS has only battled a handful of rainy days. At night, temperatures are still above freezing.
But New York winters often see frigid temperatures that drop below 14 degrees Fahrenheit (-10 Celsius).
"The cold affects us already," admitted Maria Fehlig, a volunteer nurse at the protesters' makeshift infirmary, a small blue tent marked by a cross that is the only structure so far tolerated by owners of the park ensconced between skyscrapers.
She noted there had been several cases of hypothermia and respiratory problems. An online petition is asking Mayor Michael Bloomberg to allow protesters to erect tents on the plaza, though it has not yet been sent.
It is unlikely to succeed.
"The Constitution doesn't protect tents, it protects speech and assembly," Bloomberg said in a press conference Monday amid growing frustration by some New Yorkers as the protesters continue camping out in the heart of global finance.
Bloomberg has also predicted that the weather would play a role in determining how long the movement will last.
But Fehlig, who has been helping protesters learn basic methods to resist the cold, insisted that they formed "a determined group that plans to stay until it changes."
She tells demonstrators to stay dry, wear hats, layers of clothing and good pairs of socks and gloves.
The protesters' kitchen, which serves at least 2,000 meals a day, according to cook Chris O'Donnell, offers warm food ordered from nearby businesses or cooked by volunteers with the help of donations.
"We use a soup kitchen in East New York," explained O'Donnell, an OWS supporter known as a "point person" as the group does not recognize any official hierarchy.
But he also acknowledged that there is a definite lack of abundance on cold and rainy days.
And OWS has yet to organize a major protest since thousands of people gathered in Times Square on October 15 chanting "We are the 99 per cent."
The movement that denounces global greed and the richest one per cent continues to broadcast its protests online, often live, but the number of people watching has markedly dropped, along with the number of tweets about the site.
The next stage for this leaderless movement, which sees itself as independent of political parties and claims no particular demands, remains unclear for now.Winter woes threaten Wall Street occupiers
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Occupy Wall Street: At Zuccotti Park, Conflict Arises Among Occupiers
Posted: 10/22/11 11:48 AM ET React Amazing
Events at Zuccotti Park, the epicenter of the Occupy Wall Street movement in Lower Manhattan, have become increasingly dramatic in recent days, as egos have clashed, visions competed, and the unity of the protesters has been questioned.
The debate over whether or not the protesters should draft a list of demands led to a New York Times piece that dominated a recent General Assembly discussion. Along with complaints from area residents and continued pressure from the city about cleanliness and noise, growing concerns about safety and theft on the premises, and the proposal of a Spokes Council which for two nights in a row failed to gain consensus from the GA, it has been a long week at Zuccotti Park.
The most vocal members of the movement will say quite clearly there are no "leaders," and the avoidance of that term has led to what some view as a lack of direction for Occupy Wall Street in New York. Differences among the occupiers are inevitable -- and as many working groups will tell you, it has been difficult to get things done.
There's no shortage of talking, and you never know who will take hold of the People's Mic. Persuasive speakers on all sides can give General Assembly meetings a roller-coaster feel. Someone always seems to oppose a budget proposal, or have a strong dissenting opinion on something that seems on its way to sure passage. Just one voice joining the debate at the last minute has the power to sway the entire discussion.
With every proposal, there are questions and there are concerns, and the process continues and continues. The facilitators say numerous times the group has strayed off process. Questions are sometimes ignored for being "off-topic" even when they aren't, time constraints are cited and frustrations boil over. Occupiers curse, speak out of turn and sometimes they just keep on talking, despite "Mic Check" calls over them. Those on all sides alienate each other.
This is what I have witnessed at Zuccotti the past few nights. On Thursday, the matter at hand was a proposal from Pulse -- the group of drummers -- for $8,000 for new musical instruments. They say they hoped to secure the funding after a $5,000 handmade drum was sabotaged and destroyed during a rain storm. They say that because they've been there since Day 1, they deserve the funding more than anyone.
"We have worked for you! Appreciate us!" the leader of the proposal shouted angrily to the GA in response to voices of dissent.
After a long debate, the proposal was tabled. No funding for the drummers. After the meeting, one drummer cursed and yelled at GA members for their decision. He confronted another occupier and the two shouted obscenities back and forth; a physical fight nearly erupted but a peacemaker came between them.
On Friday, a proposal for a Spokes Council -- a group led by cluster representatives that would make budgetary and logistical decisions -- was debated at length. The General Assembly meeting Friday night lasted from 7 p.m. to 1:30 a.m., even though they're officially only scheduled to last until 9 p.m. and quiet hours are supposed to begin after 11 p.m. The NYPD decided not to disrupt the assembly, and the People's Mic quieted as a sign of respect for the final two and a half hours.
But those two and a half hours were just as tense as the drummers' proposal. General Assembly members complained that they would lose power if a Spokes Council was formed, while facilitators and speakers for the working group behind the proposal insisted that the council would decentralize power in a necessary way. They argued that anyone could be part of working groups and clusters, which would each have a representative on the Spokes Council. One prominent organizer made the point that there would even be a group for people not in a working group, so everyone would be included in some way.
The concerns nonetheless continued. Occupiers raised their voices louder, saying they felt disenfranchised and confused. A two-sided document jam-packed with text contained all pertinent information about the proposal, but only five minutes were set aside to read it. "This is too confusing to read in five minutes," said one occupier. "We need more time," said another.
The two sides went back and forth. "This is a living document! It can be added to, amended to," a speaker pleaded. Another said the proposal has been in the works for three weeks, "workshopped to death," and they did not want to draw the process out longer. As the debate continued, those behind the proposal conceded, "No system is perfect."
In the end, the proponents of the Spokes Council, which included several working group members and a Finance Committee representative, caved to the dissenters -- even after making a significant amendment that would allow the General Assembly to dissolve the Spokes Council at any time. The occupiers were granted more time to consider the document; they now have five days before the GA reconvenes for a vote on Wednesday.
That decision was made after 16 blocked the proposal, meaning they were prepared to leave the movement if it was passed in its current form. They gave many different reasons for opposing it.
But an occupier who favored the Spokes Council wasn't convinced, saying in disbelief after the discussion ended, "That's it? What have we been doing the last 5 hours?"
The conflicts among occupiers can't continue forever, and the most passionate organizers know this. They're planning to "Occupy Central Park" next month -- on 11-11-11 -- and hope the move will bring the protesters together again and unite them with their counterparts across the world.
But there's no telling what will happen at Zuccotti Park before then. And the cold of winter lingers.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-kanalley/occupy-wall-street-zuccotti-park_b_1026400.html
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LMFAO! ! ! ! ! !
F'ng morons.
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worse than teenage drama queens. a bunch of protesters being whiny. and a bunch of grown men high fiving about it. sheesh.
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worse than teenage drama queens. a bunch of protesters being whiny. and a bunch of grown men high fiving about it. sheesh.
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Occupy Wall Street: At Zuccotti Park, Conflict Arises Among Occupiers
Posted: 10/22/11 11:48 AM ET React Amazing
Events at Zuccotti Park, the epicenter of the Occupy Wall Street movement in Lower Manhattan, have become increasingly dramatic in recent days, as egos have clashed, visions competed, and the unity of the protesters has been questioned.
The debate over whether or not the protesters should draft a list of demands led to a New York Times piece that dominated a recent General Assembly discussion. Along with complaints from area residents and continued pressure from the city about cleanliness and noise, growing concerns about safety and theft on the premises, and the proposal of a Spokes Council which for two nights in a row failed to gain consensus from the GA, it has been a long week at Zuccotti Park.
The most vocal members of the movement will say quite clearly there are no "leaders," and the avoidance of that term has led to what some view as a lack of direction for Occupy Wall Street in New York. Differences among the occupiers are inevitable -- and as many working groups will tell you, it has been difficult to get things done.
There's no shortage of talking, and you never know who will take hold of the People's Mic. Persuasive speakers on all sides can give General Assembly meetings a roller-coaster feel. Someone always seems to oppose a budget proposal, or have a strong dissenting opinion on something that seems on its way to sure passage. Just one voice joining the debate at the last minute has the power to sway the entire discussion.
With every proposal, there are questions and there are concerns, and the process continues and continues. The facilitators say numerous times the group has strayed off process. Questions are sometimes ignored for being "off-topic" even when they aren't, time constraints are cited and frustrations boil over. Occupiers curse, speak out of turn and sometimes they just keep on talking, despite "Mic Check" calls over them. Those on all sides alienate each other.
This is what I have witnessed at Zuccotti the past few nights. On Thursday, the matter at hand was a proposal from Pulse -- the group of drummers -- for $8,000 for new musical instruments. They say they hoped to secure the funding after a $5,000 handmade drum was sabotaged and destroyed during a rain storm. They say that because they've been there since Day 1, they deserve the funding more than anyone.
"We have worked for you! Appreciate us!" the leader of the proposal shouted angrily to the GA in response to voices of dissent.
After a long debate, the proposal was tabled. No funding for the drummers. After the meeting, one drummer cursed and yelled at GA members for their decision. He confronted another occupier and the two shouted obscenities back and forth; a physical fight nearly erupted but a peacemaker came between them.
On Friday, a proposal for a Spokes Council -- a group led by cluster representatives that would make budgetary and logistical decisions -- was debated at length. The General Assembly meeting Friday night lasted from 7 p.m. to 1:30 a.m., even though they're officially only scheduled to last until 9 p.m. and quiet hours are supposed to begin after 11 p.m. The NYPD decided not to disrupt the assembly, and the People's Mic quieted as a sign of respect for the final two and a half hours.
But those two and a half hours were just as tense as the drummers' proposal. General Assembly members complained that they would lose power if a Spokes Council was formed, while facilitators and speakers for the working group behind the proposal insisted that the council would decentralize power in a necessary way. They argued that anyone could be part of working groups and clusters, which would each have a representative on the Spokes Council. One prominent organizer made the point that there would even be a group for people not in a working group, so everyone would be included in some way.
The concerns nonetheless continued. Occupiers raised their voices louder, saying they felt disenfranchised and confused. A two-sided document jam-packed with text contained all pertinent information about the proposal, but only five minutes were set aside to read it. "This is too confusing to read in five minutes," said one occupier. "We need more time," said another.
The two sides went back and forth. "This is a living document! It can be added to, amended to," a speaker pleaded. Another said the proposal has been in the works for three weeks, "workshopped to death," and they did not want to draw the process out longer. As the debate continued, those behind the proposal conceded, "No system is perfect."
In the end, the proponents of the Spokes Council, which included several working group members and a Finance Committee representative, caved to the dissenters -- even after making a significant amendment that would allow the General Assembly to dissolve the Spokes Council at any time. The occupiers were granted more time to consider the document; they now have five days before the GA reconvenes for a vote on Wednesday.
That decision was made after 16 blocked the proposal, meaning they were prepared to leave the movement if it was passed in its current form. They gave many different reasons for opposing it.
But an occupier who favored the Spokes Council wasn't convinced, saying in disbelief after the discussion ended, "That's it? What have we been doing the last 5 hours?"
The conflicts among occupiers can't continue forever, and the most passionate organizers know this. They're planning to "Occupy Central Park" next month -- on 11-11-11 -- and hope the move will bring the protesters together again and unite them with their counterparts across the world.
But there's no telling what will happen at Zuccotti Park before then. And the cold of winter lingers.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-kanalley/occupy-wall-street-zuccotti-park_b_1026400.html
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F'ng morons.
This is very interesting.
Out of curiosity where was the $8000 for new musical equipment supposed to come from? From the protestors?
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This is what I have witnessed at Zuccotti the past few nights. On Thursday, the matter at hand was a proposal from Pulse -- the group of drummers -- for $8,000 for new musical instruments. They say they hoped to secure the funding after a $5,000 handmade drum was sabotaged and destroyed during a rain storm. They say that because they've been there since Day 1, they deserve the funding more than anyone.
Hhhmmmmm. Sabotaged???
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This is what I have witnessed at Zuccotti the past few nights. On Thursday, the matter at hand was a proposal from Pulse -- the group of drummers -- for $8,000 for new musical instruments. They say they hoped to secure the funding after a $5,000 handmade drum was sabotaged and destroyed during a rain storm. They say that because they've been there since Day 1, they deserve the funding more than anyone.
Hhhmmmmm. Sabotaged???
I can't tell where the "funding" supposed to come from?
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I can't tell where the "funding" supposed to come from?
Tips from tourists and other fools walking by.
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Tips from tourists and other fools walking by.
Interesting, thanks.
So the drumming group wants it spent on drums and others do not agree and so the drummers are upset as they feel they "deserve the funding more than anyone."
It's like a mini-protest that somewhat mirrors the larger protest.
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this is true...I am not happy about the protesters but the tea party groups get together for a half an hour....meanwhile these protesters have been demonstrating for weeks on end with very few arrests relatively
there have been NUMEROUS arrest across the country in regards to these protest.
what do you consider relatively few arrests? LMAO
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PICKET: Occupy Wall Street protesters post manifesto of 'demands'
The "Occupy Wall Street" protesters have listed 13 demands from their website.
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
Demand four: Free college education.
Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.
Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.
Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.
Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.
These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.
Quite a list of Marxist "demands", indeed. The real question here is if these demands are not met, then what?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/oct/3/picket-occupy-wall-street-protesters-post-manifest/
Too funny.
Last time someone try to impose this stupid shit ( well most of their demands are bloody fucking retarded very few ok) this is what happened in the end.
Enjoy getting assfucked by the Communist Party elite you prole retards.
Being born in USSR during the time when Soviet Union economy and government was collapsing I cant stand most of these fucktards. I wish someone would erect a giant viewing screen right by these protesters and play clips of Cheka/NKVD executing "political prisoners" as well as w/e clips exist of the "Great Leap Forward" famines and executions.
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there have been NUMEROUS arrest across the country in regards to these protest.
what do you consider relatively few arrests? LMAO
how many is "NUMEROUS?"
I mean, numberous can be 3, numerous can be 14 trillion.
Were there 14 trillion arrests?
LOLZERCOPTER at you attacking his use of a vague term with your own vague term ;)
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how many is "NUMEROUS?"
I mean, numberous can be 3, numerous can be 14 trillion.
Were there 14 trillion arrests?
LOLZERCOPTER at you attacking his use of a vague term with your own vague term ;)
lol this coming from the jack ass who said there have been 3 arrests?
fuck off you troll...
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lol this coming from the jack ass who said there have been 3 arrests?
fuck off you troll...
I've heard of 3 so far that were unrelated to arrests for unlawful protest. Do you have link to details of # of arrests that were due to crimes not included stealing sidewalk space?
If they're an unlawful bunch I will be the first to call for their vaginas to be stuffed with salt.
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I've heard of 3 so far that were unrelated to arrests for unlawful protest. Do you have link to details of # of arrests that were due to crimes not included stealing sidewalk space?
If they're an unlawful bunch I will be the first to call for their vaginas to be stuffed with salt.
I guess you missed the 700 arrests for the commies shutting down the brooklyn bridge?
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I guess you missed the 700 arrests for the commies shutting down the brooklyn bridge?
they need salt in their vaginas for disrupting commerce, in that case.
speaking of men with vaginas, I tried watching fox today... geez the females are hot, but they gotta be giving the men estrogen shots. Holy Victim Fever batman
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I've heard of 3 so far that were unrelated to arrests for unlawful protest. Do you have link to details of # of arrests that were due to crimes not included stealing sidewalk space?
If they're an unlawful bunch I will be the first to call for their vaginas to be stuffed with salt.
wait wait wait, so now youre back peddling and saying only breaking certain laws counts?
hahahah what about all the arrests in denver?
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wait wait wait, so now youre back peddling and saying only breaking certain laws counts?
hahahah what about all the arrests in denver?
"All the" = what number?
Please, i'd like to shit all over these protesters. how many have been arrested for these crimes of theft, rape, drum sabotage?
Geraldo is doing a big piece today, on the "pleasure parks" or nonstop orgies that these rallies could shortly become as tensions rise and the drug addled protesters develop familiarity and lust takes over.
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"All the" = what number?
Please, i'd like to shit all over these protesters. how many have been arrested for these crimes of theft, rape, drum sabotage?
Geraldo is doing a big piece today, on the "pleasure parks" or nonstop orgies that these rallies could shortly become as tensions rise and the drug addled protesters develop familiarity and lust takes over.
LOL why are you limiting the arrest to certain crimes and not simply breaking the law?
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I guess you missed the 700 arrests for the commies shutting down the brooklyn bridge?
disorderly conduct arrests don't count..that is merely a violation that all protesters get when they are arrested....how many arrests have there been for serious crimes???
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disorderly conduct arrests don't count..that is merely a violation that all protesters get when they are arrested....how many arrests have there been for serious crimes???
why dont they count you moron?
b/c you say so?
how many tea partiers got arrested for disorderly conduct?
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LOL why are you limiting the arrest to certain crimes and not simply breaking the law?
bump for an answer you troll
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'Occupy Wall Street' movement camps draw the homeless seeking food and shelter
The Cleveland Plain Dealer / The Associated Press ^ | October 22, 2011
Posted on October 22, 2011 11:22:14 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
PORTLAND, Ore. -- When Occupy Wall Street protesters took over two parks in Portland's soggy downtown, they pitched 300 tents and offered free food, medical care and shelter to anyone. They weren't just building, like so many of their brethren across the nation, a community to protest what they see as corporate greed.
They also created an ideal place for the homeless. Some were already living in the parks, while others were drawn from elsewhere to the encampment's open doors.
Now, protesters from Portland to Los Angeles to Atlanta are trying to distinguish between homeless people who are joining their movement and those who are there for the amenities. When night falls in Portland, for instance, protesters have been dealing with fights, drunken arguments and the display of the occasional knife....
(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...
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bump for an answer you troll
Because "discon" is a catch-all phrase the police use when they arrest a protester..it could mean anything from not obeying an order by a police officer..to calling a police officer a name...to blocking traffic......blocking the sidewalk...not dispersing in a timely manner...cursing.....pis sing on the sidewalk...being drunk in public....its a very discretionary offense that is usually dismissed in court for lack of evidence, or due to the police officer actually lying about the offense in order to get the person arrested on SOMETHING.....most prosecutors, judges, and even police supervisors know this and wink at it.....no one actually ever goes to jail for these offenses..they are simply let go at the precinct with a ticket
I know this answer won't satisfy you but its the facts
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Occupy Wall Street campground becoming spot for vagrants, ex-cons & 'takers' to call home
nydailynews.com ^
Posted on October 23, 2011 6:41:23 AM EDT by Sub-Driver
Occupy Wall Street campground becoming spot for vagrants, ex-cons & 'takers' to call home
BY Christina Boyle DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Sunday, October 23rd 2011, 4:00 AM
Zuccotti Park has become a haven for the homeless.
Enticed by the allure of free food and a community of open-minded people, increasing numbers are leaving New York's shelters to join the Occupy Wall Street protesters.
"I think this is a better situation to be involved with," said Matthew Maloney, 49, who was released from prison on Sept. 30 after serving time for a probation violation.
Maloney moved into a shelter in Staten Island and learned about Occupy Wall Street while watching television. Then the ex-con headed to Zuccotti Park on Oct. 13 and never left.
"I am around a good cause and around positive people, rather than in that other environment," he said.
Maloney has drifted in and out of the state prison system for more than three decades for a variety of crimes, including robbery and possession of stolen property.
"Everybody is being real with each other here," he said. "This is like a 'Twilight Zone.'"
Bronx couple Yvette Vigo and Orlando Nieves say they were forced into a shelter a year ago when they could not afford their rent.
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They want $lice of the occu-pie: 500G fight at Zuccotti (Occupy Wall Street)
NY Post ^ | october 23, 2011 | GINGER ADAMS OTIS
Posted on October 23, 2011 8:35:35 AM EDT by lowbridge
Even in Zuccotti Park, greed is good.
Occupy Wall Street’s Finance Committee has nearly $500,000 in the bank, and donations continue to pour in -- but its reluctance to share the wealth with other protesters is fraying tempers.
Some drummers -- incensed they got no money to replace or safeguard their drums after a midnight vandal destroyed their instruments Wednesday -- are threatening to splinter off.
“F--k Finance. I hope Mayor Bloomberg gets an injunction and demands to see the movement’s books. We need to know how much money we really have and where it’s going,” said a frustrated Bryan Smith, 45, who joined OWS in Lower Manhattan nearly three weeks ago from Los Angeles, where he works in TV production.
Smith is a member of the Comfort Working Group -- one of about 30 small collectives that have sprung up within OWS. The Comfort group is charged with finding out what basic necessities campers need, like thermal underwear, and then raising money by soliciting donations on the street.
“The other day, I took in $2,000. I kept $650 for my group, and gave the rest to Finance. Then I went to them with a request -- so many people need things, and they should not be going without basic comfort items -- and I was told to fill out paperwork. Paperwork! Are they the government now?” Smith fumed, even as he cajoled the passing crowd for more cash.
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Ha hah ha a a.
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Because "discon" is a catch-all phrase the police use when they arrest a protester..it could mean anything from not obeying an order by a police officer..to calling a police officer a name...to blocking traffic......blocking the sidewalk...not dispersing in a timely manner...cursing.....pis sing on the sidewalk...being drunk in public....its a very discretionary offense that is usually dismissed in court for lack of evidence, or due to the police officer actually lying about the offense in order to get the person arrested on SOMETHING.....most prosecutors, judges, and even police supervisors know this and wink at it.....no one actually ever goes to jail for these offenses..they are simply let go at the precinct with a ticket
I know this answer won't satisfy you but its the facts
LOL so how many tea partiers got arrested for these trumped up charges?
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Has Our "System" Failed, Or Has Our President
Townhall.com ^ | October 23, 2011 | Austin Hill
“The system has failed.”
Have you heard this comment lately? Does it express how you feel about America?
This one sentence, vague as it is, nonetheless captures a common sentiment about the current condition of the United States.
With the “occupy” protesters disrupting civic life around the country and President Obama publicly bonding with them, we’re seeing that magical phrase – “the system has failed” – being used in increasingly ambiguous ways. So it makes sense that the rest of us should ask a couple of important questions: What “system” are they talking about? And in what sense has that system “failed?”
At times it would appear that the occupiers are decrying our American system of constitutional, elective and representative government. “Our voices aren’t being heard,” many of them will say, implying that they are being trampled-upon by an abusive dictatorial regime.
But if you probe deeper and ask “what do you mean by that?,” it often becomes apparent that what the occupiers are really saying is “my policy ideas were rejected,” “the election didn’t turn out the way it should have,” or “I disagree with the outcome of the legislative vote (the congressional rejection of the Obama tax hikes is a perfect example of this).”
Thus, the claim that “the system has failed” implies a very self-centered, narcissistic view of the world – “the system is not producing the policies that I want, so therefore the entire system is wrong.”
Another component to the “not being heard” claim is the fact that many of the occupiers seem disinterested in participating in the processes of making public policy. Pollster Doug Schoen recently noted in the Wall Street Journal that while an overwhelming majority of the occupiers voted for President Obama in 2008, less than half will vote to re-elect him and at least 25% won’t vote at all in 2012.
Similarly, in a recent interview I did with occupier “Christine,” the intelligent and articulate 25 year old gushed on my daily talk show about how the movement signals a “new awakening” where people are “letting their voices be heard.” Yet when I asked, she couldn’t name any elected official who represents her in the U.S. Congress, her state legislature, her city council or school board, and she openly admitted that she did not vote in the 2008 presidential election.
At other times, the occupiers seem to be saying that our free-market economic system has failed. Some of this rhetoric implies a very simple, socialistic, “it’s unfair if one person achieves more than the other” type of mindset. Other occupiers present more complex concerns, as does the unnamed Los Angeles occupier who appears in the now-famous “WTF is going on?” Youtube video.
“I’ve been an electrician for ten years,” the man in the video shouts into a bullhorn. “My wife is a nurse….we both have good jobs…and we can’t afford a house…That aint right!...What is going on?” he cries.
These types of frustrations are real and common. But the angry outbursts suggest a lack of interest in understanding important economic concepts like the relative worth of “things” – the value of labor, and durable goods, for example – and the variable value of the currency.
Perhaps most noteworthy about our alleged “system failure,” is President Obama implying that he wants to replace it. Most of the reaction to the President’s recent interview with ABC News focused on the fact that he said, in no uncertain terms, that he is “on their side” – on the side of the occupier protesters, that is, and apparently not on the side of the rest of us Americans.
However the more intriguing comments from the President were mostly un-noticed. “We want to set up a system in which hard work, responsibility, doing what you’re supposed to do, is rewarded,” Mr. Obama stated, “and that people who are irresponsible, who are reckless, who don’t feel a sense of obligation to their communities and their companies and their workers, that those folks aren’t rewarded.”
The President and the protesters may be shocked to learn this, but our free-market, capitalist economic system is already designed to accomplish this, and it does so pretty well – when it is truly “free” and competitive. When government refrains from punishing success with threats of ever-increasing taxation and regulation, people get rewarded for their hard work and responsibility and they’re incentivized to continue achieving. And when government allows businesses to compete with each other, excellence rises to the top and inferiority is allowed to fail.
President Obama has pursued policies that move us in the exact opposite direction. High-achievers are maligned in the President’s rhetoric and policy proposals. Mis-managed companies – failed banks and car companies in particular – are given “government bailouts.” And businesses that meet Barack Obama’s individual, political needs – G.E., General Motors, Solyndra, and Fisker Automotive of Finland, to name a few - are granted special privileges and waivers so as to become pre-determined successes.
The American “system” has not failed – not our economic system, nor our political system. But many of our currently elected government officials need to be replaced, along with many of their policies.
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LOL why are you limiting the arrest to certain crimes and not simply breaking the law?
i'm a selective partisan prickbag.
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Occupy Dayton - Fuck The Military, Fuck Your Flag, Fuck The Police
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i'm a selective partisan prickbag.
hahahaha, well at least youre being honest...I can respect honesty even if I disagree.
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hahahaha, well at least youre being honest...I can respect honesty even if I disagree.
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LOL I remember that animal add, something about how she doesnt understand his motivation and desire for working out and bodybuilding LOL
is this your way of saying we dont understand your motivation and desire for spinning liberal bs?
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LOL so how many tea partiers got arrested for these trumped up charges?
bump for an answer from the guy who doesnt know what racism is...
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LOL I remember that animal add, something about how she doesnt understand his motivation and desire for working out and bodybuilding LOL
is this your way of saying we dont understand your motivation and desire for spinning liberal bs?
"333386 sits at the bus stop, channeling his rage against illegals and liberals for his upcoming workout."
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"333386 cares not for porn. Or cleanliness. His disdain for socialism won't allow it."
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"How do you expect me to ejaculate when the numbers from the US Debt clock keep running through my head, baby?"
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33: "Clean the kitchen, or post on getbig. Clean the kitchen, or post on getbig..."
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"I am big... but the problems we face as a result of the Obama junta are much bigger..."
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http://www.breitbart.tv/occupywallstreet-supporter-rants-against-israel-jews
Nice.
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Coke creep busted at 'Occupy' park
The New York Post ^ | October 23, 2011 | Doug Auer
Now, he’s occupying a jail cell.
A drug dealer was busted trying to peddle cocaine last night to Occupy Wall Street protesters in Zuccotti Park, The Post has learned.
Garfield Leslie, 19, began brawling with three protestors who had told him to leave their tent when he wandered in at around 8 p.m. and tried to sell small plastic baggies of cocaine, police sources said.
Leslie first punched a woman several times and then turned his fists on a guy who intervened, sources said. When another woman tried to stop the scuffle, Leslie allegedly hit her so hard in the chest she fell to the ground and injured her wrist, sources added.
The victims informed police officers assigned to a detail monitoring the park about their run-in with Leslie and the officers soon found the suspect walking around the encampment, allegedly still trying to deal drugs, sources said.
Leslie, of Brooklyn, was arrested and charged with felony assault, misdemeanor assault and drug possession.
Records show that Leslie was previously arrested four times over the summer.
On June 4, he was busted selling narcotics on a platform inside the West 4th Street subway station at Sixth Avenue, sources said.....
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Protesters again occupy Grant Park — and again are arrested
BY ROSEMARY SOBOL AND JIM SCALZITTI
Staff Reporters
Last Modified: Oct 23, 2011 11:26AM
For the second weekend in a row, anti-Wall Street protesters marched through the downtown streets in another attempt to take over Grant Park. And once again, police arrested those that refused to leave after the park closed.
Organizers and police estimated that about 130 demonstrators were arrested in Grant Park early Sunday. Those arrested faced misdemeanor charges, such as trespassing on park district property. They had not been released by late morning, according to police and organizers.
Between 1,500 and 2,500 protesters marched Saturday night from LaSalle and Jackson to the northeast corner of Congress and Michigan, where organizers said they again planned to set up a camp with the hopes of spending the night. Organizers said they were hoping to move the entire Occupy Chicago protest from the financial district to Grant Park going forward.
“We are going to hold this space, and that’s what we are going to do,” said Brit Schulte, 23, an organizer who was arrested at Grant Park last week and who has been protesting for 25 days straight. “Our ability to invoke our civil rights to protest shouldn’t be limited, and we shouldn’t be censored.”
Schulte, who recently moved to Chicago from Texas, said organizers didn’t request a permit to spend the night because they didn’t think they needed it.
As of midnight, only one tent had been set up and only about 100 protesters remained in the park. Police set up metal barricades around the group. A few hundred people stood in support outside the barricades on the sidewalks around and across the street from the park and watched.
At 12:40 a.m., a protester ran out of the barricades and quickly returned holding two pizzas. Police stopped him from rejoining the crowd, but then he sat down and another protester ran up and grabbed the pizzas from him. That woman then delivered the grub to the crowd.
At 12:50 a.m. Sunday, police began to handcuff and arrest protesters. Police carried out some who refused to move, but others walked with officers to police wagons. As they left the area, police snapped photos of those taken into custody.
“CPD is the 99 percent” protesters chanted as the arrests were being made.
As the arrests were underway, organizers said they were upset that Mayor Rahm Emanuel did not make an exception and allow them to stay in the park after it closed.
“Other mayors with the same sorts of laws have not only done that but they have come out to speak” at rallies, said Cathy “Sugar” Russell, a spokeswoman for Occupy Chicago. Russell, 33, a marketing student at DeVry who lives in Avondale, said while protesters will remain at LaSalle and Jackson around the clock, where the protests started, they sought to move to Grant Park because they “need an appropriate space where we can do the work for social and economic justice.”
At an earlier rally at Grant Park, crowds chanted, “We are the 99 percent!” and “What do we need? Revolution. When do we need it? Now!”
Mitch Malinski, 19, of Grayslake, an economics student at the University of Illinois at Chicago, said he wants “to talk to Mr. 0bama. This is America — we’re supposed to have jobs.”
Last Saturday night, 2,000 people took the same march, and then set up 24 tents and didn’t leave when the park closed at 11 p.m. By Sunday morning police had arrested 175 people for refusing to leave.
While organizers said the crowd hit 2,500 this Saturday, police estimated that 1,500 marched before a rally in Grant Park.
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wow, a drug dealer showed up and the OWS people kicked him out and alerted authorities.
Pretty brave of them. They don't need that kind of drama as they tweet about the evils of companies like twitter.
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Occupy Oakland shuts streets, defy eviction order, no news on Occupy SF
Occupy Oakland shuts streets, defy eviction order
Matthai Kuruvila, Chronicle Staff Writer
Sunday, October 23, 2011
Hundreds of activists with the Occupy Wall Street movement marched Saturday from Oakland City Hall, snaking their way through downtown and around Lake Merritt while they flouted an eviction order.
They closed thoroughfares and freeway ramps, invaded one bank and temporarily shut down another as they spread their message against economic inequality. But after three hours, they returned to City Hall, where they cooked food over open flames, danced and slid back into their tents.
"We're not leaving," said a 30-year-old bartender who identified himself only as Jabar. He has been at the camp almost every day and vowed, "We are not going to just walk away."
Of course, leaving is exactly what city officials had hoped...
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/1...
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The Naked Apes of Occupy Wall Street
20 October 2011 Edward Cline
http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/markets/financial-crisis/6628-the-naked-apes-of-occupy-wall-street.html
And what have you? You have a naked ape. A protester against corporate greed, an advocate of expropriating wealth and the means of production. A frightening, noisy, intimidating mob stripped of everything they are protesting against.
While immersed in the 1920’s to complete my latest detective novel, chickens came home to roost on Wall Street. Also, wannabe hippies, yippies, union thugs, and the countless clueless who went to “occupy” Wall Street because they had nothing better to do. I watched and read with dismay the trashing of that short but great street as hundreds, then thousands blocked it, trashed it, yelled at it, probably urinated on it, and then camped out on Zuccotti Park. Or rather, took it over.
Mayor Michael Bloomberg, the “Duke of New York,” has not ordered the police to clear out the park. He has not called in companies of riot police armed with shields, batons, and Mace. He has not brought in fire engines to hose the barbarians, not so much to give them much needed baths, as to drive them off into custody. But then Bloomberg endorses the Ground Zero Mosque. Perhaps he likes the new “Camp of the Saints.”
The mainstream media has done its best to sanction and egg on the “protestors.” The only objective reporting on the continuing outrage can be found in the non-MSM. From Brian Williams to Diane Sawyer to Matt Lauer, the yelping and gesticulating and sign-carrying on Lower Manhattan amuses them, encourages them. It is provocative and newsworthy. The Occupiers of Wall Street get a free pass, references to the American Revolution, and sonorous sympathy, something the MSM never gave the Tea Party.
To reprise the MSM’S role in perpetuating the alleged “spontaneity” of the occupiers’ “freedom of expression” would be redundant here. Much has been made by the non-MSM of the hypocrisy of the occupiers. Daniel Greenfield of Sultan Knish is especially on top of the irony of thousands of trust fund beneficiaries protesting the system that makes trust funds possible, and has written a number of perceptive pieces on the character of the protesters and of the phenomenon. Kelly O’Donnell of Canada Free Press exposes the bogus “spontaneity” of the masses of Zuccotti Park by tracing its funding and organization to that Marxist billionaire, George Soros, its endorsement by William Ayers, the former Weatherman bomber, and other notorious notables. All this ground and more have been covered by those not distracted by the task of finishing a novel.
What I would like to do here to present The Naked Ape. I saw a picture somewhere of the protesters on which someone had written all the product names of the things worn and used by the protesters: the cap from Gap, the cameras by Sony, shoes by Nike, the iPods by Apple, and so on. In short, the protesters were protesting the corporations that produced those objects and which helped to facilitate their protest.
Now, governments produce nothing but forms and other kinds of paperwork, and even here government printing offices rely on technology and methods they never originated and could not improve on. The Congressional Record, the Federal Register, White House invitations, and your dollar bills all have their roots in some individual’s or private corporation’s innovation. All the desks, equipment, technology, family pictures, pens, pencils, glass in the windows, rugs, paint on the walls, insulation, flags, memo pads, etc. in any given politician’s office are all privately produced. Not even the military develops its own weapons; that task is farmed out to independent contractors in the private realm. There’s no such thing as a government tank factory or munitions farm.
I will take that photograph one step further.
Picture a protester, fully dressed, armed with his cell phone, iPod, perhaps with a poncho rolled up in his backpack along with toiletries and other necessities.
Take away his cap – his shirt and tee-shirt – his watch – his jacket – his backpack and all is contents – his sweater or sweatshirt – his cell phone – his camera – any other gizmo he has become dependent on to communicate with his pals or to see what else is happening on Facebook, Twitter, Linked In and other social sites – his wallet – his pants – his underwear – his socks – his shoes – his shaving instruments – his deodorant (if any) – his hair cut (if he has had one) – his pill box, nasal spray, inhaler, chap stick, or whatever else enables him to breathe without difficulty – his childhood inoculations – his cigarettes – his lighter – his plastic packet of whatever else he may smoke – his glasses or contacts – his tent – his sleeping bag.
Take away his cardboard sign and the length or wood or plastic it may be affixed to, if it is affixed to anything. Take away the marker or pen or spray that printed the words on it.
No Starbucks. No Ben & Jerry’s ice cream. No Zuccotti Park-cooked pasta and stir-fried veggies. Maybe cockroaches. Or silverfish. Or dead rats. But nothing prepared in defiance of Mother Earth. No Poland Spring water. No plastic water bottles at all.
And what have you? You have a naked ape. A protester against corporate greed, an advocate of expropriating wealth and the means of production.
Picture a woman and do the same to her. No hairspray, either. No make-up kits. No dyes. No lipstick. No tampons. No nail polish. No clothes. No gizmos. No signs. Nothing.
And there is the female of the species.
Don’t avert your eyes. Multiple those two images by the thousands, in Technicolor. Pack them all together on Wall Street or Broad Street or Broadway, and what have you?
A frightening, noisy, intimidating mob stripped of everything they are protesting against. A George Romero-like Dawn of the Dead. A phenomenon more repellent than a canvas by Pieter Brueghel the Elder of peasants cavorting in the mud. Coming at you, the middle class, the bourgeoisie, the producer of wealth. The owner of wealth. The property owner. The honest wage-earner. The hot dog vendor. The cabbie. The investor. The industrialist. The inventor. The risk-taker. The gainfully employed in any private capacity. The self-employed. The bill-payer. The tax-payer. The savings account owner. The rich. The modestly well-off. Aspirants to being rich or modestly well-off.
Coming to get you, because the naked apes are none of those things.
They are coming at you and for you. If you don’t join them, and apologize, and hand over your property, your wealth, and your life, and join, not their “99%,” but their actual 0.83%, they intend to kill you. So said one protester during the Oakland “occupation.”
Lout: S—t…won’t be exactly how you want it. S—t’s gonna change. You don’t know what’s gonna happen….
Tea Party interviewer: What do you do with the people who don’t want to change their beliefs, or don’t agree with you?
Lout: Kill ‘em. (“Just kiddin’,” he added with a chuckle, but it was too late. His answer came instantly, eagerly, and from the gut.)
Lenin wasn’t kidding. Nor was Hitler. Nor Stalin, nor Mao or Pol Pot. It’s anyone’s guess that Obama isn’t kidding, either. Or William Ayers. Or George Soros.
So, it isn’t a matter of hypocrisy. It’s not an issue of venality. That is not what the protesters are primarily guilty of. It is of allowing themselves to be brainwashed so thoroughly by their educators that they can no longer think. Their brains have been automatized or programmed to repeat whatever their teachers wished them to think. If they are protesting anything, it should be their government-mandated, state-commanded, and bureaucrat-tailored education.
They should be protesting the government’s involvement in their lives and in their futures. By extension, they should be protesting in favor of private property, wealth accumulation, individual rights, and for getting the government out of the economy.
Instead, they are demanding more of what has stunted their minds. And they believe – not think – but believe that impoverishing everyone will compensate for their imagined persecution and purported downtroddeness and make things right and level so that no one will envy anyone else. Their obvious and enervating malice was bred in our schools as surely as Pavlov’s dog was conditioned to drool.
Do not bother asking them to know cause and effect. Syllogisms are beyond their ability to grasp. To them, there is no cause and effect. Things just are. The universe is causeless. Human action is causeless. The unskilled laborer, with nothing to offer the world but his muscles and capacity for mindless routine, is the source of all wealth, which the rich and the industrious and the innovators have somehow stolen from him. Steve Jobs’s personal net worth was $7 billion. He should have been made to exist on a ditch-digger’s wage, and to give them their iPods and other gizmos, too. So they have been taught. All differences in wealth and standards of living are inequitable and unjust, they were taught. The solution is to abolish all equity and the concept of justice.
So, imagine that army of naked, gibbering, wild-eyed apes heading in your direction. John Dewey and a host of other Progressive educators set them loose. And they were made possible by Immanuel Kant, Heidegger, and other philosophers. Karl Marx? He was a Johnny-Come-Lately heir of Kant and Hegel.
Ideas have consequences. And there they are, in Lower Manhattan, occupying it.
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I hate 240, but those pictures and captions were funny.
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I hate 240, but those pictures and captions were funny.
agreed..hilarious.....bu t I imagine 3333 to be more twinky :)
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agreed..hilarious.....but I imagine 3333 to be more twinky :)
Corner of Bronx River Road, Webster, Neireid Ave., Bronx N.Y. Any time you like you mentally disordered 95% freak.
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Corner of Bronx River Road, Webster, Neireid Ave., Bronx N.Y. Any time you like you mentally disordered 95% freak.
hahahah....melting ;D
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OWS protester scales 70ft sculpture demanding Bloomberg's resignation… and cigarettes
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 10/23/2011 | JOHN STEVENS
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:23:52 PM by massmike
Occupy Wall Street protesters have been accused of not having a clear set of aims and objectives. But one protester knew exactly what he wanted as he made a list of strange demands after scaling a 70-foot art sculpture in Zuccotti Park.
Dylan Spoelstra, 24, from Toronto, Canada, said that he would not come down from the structure until the NYPD and FDNY agreed to introduce a quota of 15 per cent of all officers being bisexual and Mayor Michael Bloomberg resigned.
The protester also told negotiators that he wanted 15 police officers to leave the park and to be given a coat and cigarettes.
He eventually agreed to come down just after 9am on Saturday, three hours after he had started his bizarre sit-down protest.
The demonstrator was taken to hospital for a psychiatric evaluation. He had earlier been ticketed at 3:14am for public urination.
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OWS protester scales 70ft sculpture demanding Bloomberg's resignation… and cigarettes
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 10/23/2011 | JOHN STEVENS
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:23:52 PM by massmike
Occupy Wall Street protesters have been accused of not having a clear set of aims and objectives. But one protester knew exactly what he wanted as he made a list of strange demands after scaling a 70-foot art sculpture in Zuccotti Park.
Dylan Spoelstra, 24, from Toronto, Canada, said that he would not come down from the structure until the NYPD and FDNY agreed to introduce a quota of 15 per cent of all officers being bisexual and Mayor Michael Bloomberg resigned.
The protester also told negotiators that he wanted 15 police officers to leave the park and to be given a coat and cigarettes.
He eventually agreed to come down just after 9am on Saturday, three hours after he had started his bizarre sit-down protest.
The demonstrator was taken to hospital for a psychiatric evaluation. He had earlier been ticketed at 3:14am for public urination.
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Why is a Canadian making demands in our country? Fuck off back to Toronto, c*nt.
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and how many tea partiers got arrested for disorderly conduct?
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OWS protester scales 70ft sculpture demanding Bloomberg's resignation… and cigarettes
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 10/23/2011 | JOHN STEVENS
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:23:52 PM by massmike
Occupy Wall Street protesters have been accused of not having a clear set of aims and objectives. But one protester knew exactly what he wanted as he made a list of strange demands after scaling a 70-foot art sculpture in Zuccotti Park.
Dylan Spoelstra, 24, from Toronto, Canada, said that he would not come down from the structure until the NYPD and FDNY agreed to introduce a quota of 15 per cent of all officers being bisexual and Mayor Michael Bloomberg resigned.
The protester also told negotiators that he wanted 15 police officers to leave the park and to be given a coat and cigarettes.
He eventually agreed to come down just after 9am on Saturday, three hours after he had started his bizarre sit-down protest.
The demonstrator was taken to hospital for a psychiatric evaluation. He had earlier been ticketed at 3:14am for public urination.
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Strawman has excellent climbing skills.
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I so hope this thing keeps going in to the winter. As it gets colder - the stupid shit from these fools is going to be pure comedy.
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Why is a Canadian making demands in our country? Fuck off back to Toronto, c*nt.
lol
But, the libs are claiming these people are just fringe elements. There's actually a core of normal, understandable, intelligent people looking to make a statement, lol.
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People have a right to be pissed off at Wall Street. But they should really be pissed off at WASHINGTON and the whore politicians. All of them. They have colluded with the banks and Wall Street.
What makes me suspicious of OWS is when you have whores like Pelosi defending them. Then you know something stinks.
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People have a right to be pissed off at Wall Street. But they should really be pissed off at WASHINGTON and the whore politicians. All of them. They have colluded with the banks and Wall Street.
What makes me suspicious of OWS is when you have whores like Pelosi defending them. Then you know something stinks.
yup yup but no the ppl who are supporting this are just as clueless....
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180 claims there's been "a few" arrests.
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https://twitter.com/#!/OccupyArrests
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i wonder why repubs spend so much time bashing somthing that's so irrelevant?
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i wonder why repubs spend so much time bashing somthing that's so irrelevant?
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Maybe because your "Black Jesus" Obama got behind these people as well as Piglosi and the other far left hacks you agree with 90% of the time?
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i wonder why repubs spend so much time bashing somthing that's so irrelevant?
Because they care only for what the media tells them to care for and the media (FOX) love Wall STreet and their money.
Did that answer your question?
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Because they care only for what the media tells them to care for and the media (FOX) love Wall STreet and their money.
Did that answer your question?
I went down there myself to see in person what this is all about.
Its a freak show and collection of commie drug addicts.
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Occupy Wall Street: An Axis of Enemies
Family Security Matters ^ | October 24, 2011 | Edward Cline
A number of stark contrasts should be noted between the freedom of speech and assembly as practiced by Occupy Wall Street and Pamela Geller.
On the one hand, Occupy Wall Street (OWS) has literally taken over a piece of public property near Wall Street in New York City by force of its protesters and with the tacit sanction of the city and its mayor, Michael Bloomberg. OWS has made itself not only a public nuisance, but an unsanitary and dangerous one.
OWS has attracted every collectivist, socialist, communist, environmental, and even anti-Semitic loon to its cause. It is a grab-bag of “movements,” ranging from the call for the “reform” of Wall Street (meaning its abolition) and the persecution of Jews. If you are “anti-establishment” and have a gripe against “the system” – whether you are a WalMart employee, an unemployed, a welfare recipient, a trust fund tyke, unsure of or unhappy with your gender, a pal of the Palestinians, an indebted career student, a Facebook socialist, a son or daughter of Woodstock, a public employee, an SEIU or UAW thug, an “artist,” “writer,” or “musician,” a fan of Farrakhan, a New or Old Black Panther, a Jew against Israel, a Muslim against Jews, an anarchist, a neo-Nazi, a Marxist, a Trotskyite, or something in between – OWS is the place to go and be.
The Sugar Land Tea Party reserved a conference room at the Hyatt Place Houston/Sugar Land Hotel to hear Pamela Geller, prominent anti-jihadist and anti-Sharia advocate, speak last week on the subject of the dangers of stealth Sharia and stealth jihad in the United States. The Hyatt abruptly, with little or no notice, cancelled the event, originally citing “security reasons.” The Sugar Land Tea Party rushed to find another venue for the event, a community center. What security reasons did the hotel name? “Complaints” by Muslims that Geller’s explanation of Sharia law constituted “hate speech.”
The Mainstream Media (MSM) has drooled over, cooed about, and coddled OWS, providing it with free publicity it could never afford to pay for itself and implicitly approving of its multitudinous aims. It is tantamount to inveighing against prostitution, but demonizing the “johns” and painting the prostitutes as “victims of the system.” The Corporation for Public Broadcasting (aka Communist Public Brainwashing, “funded by viewers and taxpayers like you”) through its outlets of NPR and PBS is standing in the corner, treating OWS “neutrally” as though it were a volcanic eruption or an outbreak of salmonella, but not questioning the legitimacy of the protest.
All one hears from OWS, however, is “hate speech” directed against the rich, against corporations, against Jews, against capitalism, against freedom. This is “hate speech” approved by the MSM, while anyone who criticizes Islam, Sharia law, or anything remotely Arabic is branded an “Islamaphobe” or a “racist.”
Some protesters, apparently, are more equal than others. This is how things are done and said on America’s own Animal Farm, a leftist fantasy park that exists only in the minds of the MSM.
Had Geller a right to object to the Hyatt cancelling the venue of her talk? Did the Hyatt’s action constitute suppression of speech? Did it violate her right to speak?
Nominally, the Hyatt exercised its right to cancel the venue, because the hotel is private property. If someone or some organization uses another’s private property as a “soapbox” to promulgate specific views, it is with the tacit or express permission of the property owner. But Geller was not going to address her audience about the wisdom of buying gold stocks, life insurance, or new computer technology. Nothing as mundane as that. She was going to speak on the perils, inequities, and insidiousness of Sharia. This is an ideological subject, not a “practical” one. The Hyatt may have been indifferent to the subject. It is reflective of the “What? Me Worry?” attitude most American business executives exhibit when confronted with important moral and ideological issues.
That indifference ended when the local chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations mounted a telephone protest against the event, causing Hyatt to think twice and withdraw the venue. Hyatt executives then became “worried.” In concrete terms, the Hyatt did not violate Geller’s First Amendment rights. But seen in a broader context, Hyatt’s action contributed not only to the suppression of her freedom of speech by CAIR and its fellow Hamas- and Muslim Brotherhood-spawned organizations – dhimmis make such useful, facilitating proxies – but of its own, and in doing so advanced the agenda of Islamists to gut the First Amendment guarantee in order to protect itself from legitimate criticism and exposure.
Such is the stuff American businessmen are made of today. Can you imagine what would not have happened had the colonials who gathered on Lexington Green, upon only hearing the distant tramp and cadence drums of approaching British regulars, said among themselves: “Uh, do we really want to do this? I mean, they can bomb our homes, harass our customers, make life miserable for us if we stand here. They got us out-gunned anyway. What’s the point? We got crops to tend to. I’m out of here.”
OWS, on the other hand, not only does not face the kind of obstacle and censure that Geller, Robert Spencer, and other writers about Islamic jihad and Sharia, but has been given a free hand by the MSM and various municipal governments, and without recrimination, retribution, or rebuttal, to slander, libel, trash, and spit on all the hands that feed its yelping, chanting, non-producing, parasitical minions, and make their sorry lives possible – corporations, investors, innovators, taxpayers, and even government.
Is the hand of President Barack Obama to be seen in OWS and the Hyatt back-down? One cannot but help suspect that the answer is Yes. Here are some interesting threads: Obama “sympathizes” with OWS. He is on “their side.” This is his kind of “community action.” It follows the prescribed methodology and tactics of Saul Alinsky Rule No. 13 to bring about “change” or “reform”: Identify, isolate, freeze and escalate.
"I think it expresses the frustrations that the American people feel," he said Thursday. "People are frustrated and the protesters are giving voice to a more broad-based frustration about how our financial system works."
This is Alinsky-lingo dressed in the pinafore of political verisimilitude.
“The most important thing we can do right now is those of us in leadership letting people know that we understand their struggles and we are on their side, and that we want to set up a system in which hard work, responsibility, doing what you’re supposed to do, is rewarded,” Obama tells ABC News.. “And that people who are irresponsible, who are reckless, who don’t feel a sense of obligation to their communities and their companies and their workers that those folks aren’t rewarded.”
Obama tried to equate the anti-big-government sentiments and civil behavior of the Tea Party rallies and town halls with Occupy Wall Street. It is his version of the Bronx Cheer:
The president also compares the protestersto the Tea Party. “In some ways, they’re not that different from some of the protests that we saw coming from the Tea Party," Obama says. "Both on the left and the right, I think people feel separated from their government. They feel that their institutions aren’t looking out for them.”
Frankly, the government isn’t separated enough from Americans. There is hardly a realm of action in which the government does not set the terms or make life more expensive and complicated. Americans who value their freedom do not want their government looking out for them, except to protect their individual rights. They want to be left alone, not nurtured, regulated, and throttled from cradle to grave.
It is the rabble of OWS who wish to be wards of the government. Read their signs. Listen to their chants. Observe their behavior.
So, even if the Democratic National Committee actually has had no hand in the fomenting and growth of OWS, a sanction from the highest office in the land is culpability enough.
It should not be surprising that Islamist supremacists wish to share the stage with socialist supremacists. In too many photos of OWS in New York and of “occupations” in cities around the country can be seen men wearing Yasser Arafat-inspired keffiyah around their necks. These photos predated news of an Islamic sanction of OWS. Their presence among the rabble also comports with OWS signs that call for the end of the “occupation” of Gaza. Do we detect a smidgen of double-standards here, concerning “occupations”? Yes, but don’t tax an OWS protester with it. These people wouldn’t know a double standard if it bit them in their butts.
It is only a matter of time that we will see photos of neo-Nazis marching, chanting, singing, sign-waving, harassing, defecating, urinating, shoulder-to-shoulder with Islamist supremacists, flaunting their neo-Nazi swastika banners. Think that’s impossible? Think again. Rocky Suhayda, head of the American Nazi Party, assured his members it was okay to join OWS, even though there are “non-whites” taking part in OWS:
In a message posted Thursday on its official website, organization head Rocky Suhayda said members of the “pro-white” movement should join and support the Occupy demonstrators because they share a common enemy: The “Judeo-capitalist banksters.”
Suhayda said though many “racialists” are concerned about the demonstrations because the “many protesters are non-white and/or ‘communists,’” that shouldn’t matter because they are all against the same “evil, corrupted, degenerate capitalist elitists.”
“… Even Adolf Hitler’s NSDAP had to vote with open communists on some issues to achieve their goals. WE need to utilize and support every movement of dissent against this evil American empire, regardless of which end of the political spectrum it originates from.”
Most people do not know that Hitler also stooped to dealing with those “racially degenerate” Arabs (who were as bad as or worse than those Jewish-led communists!) when it came to eradicating Jews. He had a close relationship with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and planned with him a Mideast version of the Holocaust.
Now, the Hyatt Hotel chain is owned or controlled by Penny Pritzker. Geller mentions her in her article about Hyatt’s dhimmitude. Pritzker is another billionaire on the Obama bus. She was his national campaign finance manager in 2008. She oversaw the Superior Bank subprime mortgage scandal. She was recruited to donate money to Obama’s campaigns. She is still active for Obama, serving on a committee to raise (more) money for his 2012 reelection campaign.
President Obama's close relationship with Warren Buffett goes back to his Illinois Senate run; now the billionaire investor is helping Obama not only on the tax fairness front, but in fund-raising for his 2012 re-election bid. Buffett hits Chicago Oct. 27 for a $35,800-per person dinner and reception.
The host committee includes Obama's major Chicago based finance team: Jim Crown, Vicki & Bruce Heyman, Mellody Hobson Steve Koch, Penny Pritzker, John Rogers Jr., David Scherer.
Who are all those people? Rich people. But the kind of “1%” rich people OWS studiously neglects to excoriate or curse. But, don’t bother pointing out the contradiction to the protesters. Contradictions are beyond their grasp, excised from their minds by “reformist” educators in public schools and in the universities.
My betting is that Pritzker ordered the Houston Hyatt executives to scratch Geller’s event. Word got to her, she was appalled (“I won’t allow hate speech to be spewed on my properties!”), or was warned, or was advised, and out went the order.
Occupy Wall Street is an in-plain-sight, transparent vortex of every collectivist and totalitarian cause and movement that ever befouled American soil and that ever assaulted American liberties. “Soaking the rich,” ending property rights, collectivizing or nationalizing all property, can only lead to across-the-board censorship, the end of freedom of speech, and the scuttling of the First Amendment. There would be no private property left on which to advocate or oppose anything. Pamela Geller insists on exercising her freedom of speech. Occupy Wall Street and all its enablers, supporters, allies, and financiers insist on ending it.
That is “Polarization” with a capital P. Anyone with an ounce of self-respect and who values his life, liberty, property, and pursuit of happiness, should be for it. After all, there is no “coming together,” no reconciliation, no “common ground” possible with OWS or Sharia law. They are both the mortal enemies of America.
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I went down there myself to see in person what this is all about.
Its a freak show and collection of commie drug addicts.
were they speaking russian?
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were they speaking russian?
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i see one red flag there. you saw 10,000 people and one of them had a red superma cape which would only be a russian flag.
are the other 9,999 people keeping the red flags in their backpacks?
for some reason, this whole "so-and-so is a communist" sounds so familiar. how did that end last time?
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i see one red flag there. you saw 10,000 people and one of them had a red superma cape which would only be a russian flag.
are the other 9,999 people keeping the red flags in their backpacks?
for some reason, this whole "so-and-so is a communist" sounds so familiar. how did that end last time?
There is not ten thousand. There are a few hundred.
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Shootings way up in two weeks
By BRAD HAMILTON
Last Updated: 7:49 AM, October 23, 2011
Posted: 11:43 PM, October 22, 2011
Bullets are flying over Broadway -- and everywhere else in the city.
The number of people shot surged 154 percent two weeks ago -- to 56 from 22 over the same week last year -- and spiked 28 percent in the last month.
Last week tallied another increase in victims -- 22 people had been hit through Friday, including the three victims gunned down outside a Brooklyn school Friday.
Last year, only 17 shooting victims were logged for the entire week.
The recent gunplay has now pushed the number of shooting victims this year slightly above last year’s tragic tally -- to 1,484 from 1,451 -- through Oct. 16.
Four high-ranking cops point the finger at Occupy Wall Street protesters, saying their rallies pull special crime-fighting units away from the hot zones where they’re needed.
Since Occupy Wall Street took over Zuccotti Park on Sept. 17, the NYPD has relied heavily on its borough task forces, the department’s go-to teams for rowdy crowds.
But such protest duty takes the special units away from their regular jobs -- patrolling public housing and problem spots and staking out nightclubs plagued by violence, supervisors said.
“Normally, the task force is used in high-crime neighborhoods where you have a lot of shootings and robberies,” said one source.
“They are always used when there are spikes in crime as a quick fix. But instead of being sent to Jamaica, Brownsville and the South Bronx, they are in Wall Street.”
Another NYPD boss is troubled by the resulting slowdown in stop-and-frisks.
When OWS marches, as many as 3,000 cops a day could be called on to keep the peace. That’s about 10 percent of the total force.
“The city is going crazy with demonstrations and protests, and I’m lucky if I can get four cars out there,” said Deputy Inspector Ted Berntsen, commander of the 13th precinct in Chelsea.
As the NYPD deals with depleted ranks, fewer thugs are going to jail. The Organized Crime Control Bureau -- an elite unit of hundreds of cops fighting drug dealers and gun runners -- has seen arrests plummet 19 percent this year.
Additional reporting by Kirstan Conley and Jessica Simeone
bhamilton@nypost.com
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/shootings_way_up_in_two_weeks_rajGrOA0bMpTBslidEUgOI#ixzz1biNfQDZ0
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Nice.
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http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/2011/10/24/is-occupy-oakland-as-bad-as-they-say/?singlepage=true
Dear god where do they find people like this? Too many insane pics to post, but hey 240 - these are your preferred alternative to the Tea Party right?
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hey 240 - these are your preferred alternative to the Tea Party right?
link to where i said that?
i've been trashing this movement as a whole since the beginning.
tea party was fine, they only had a few idiots in teh crowd carrying rilfes and racist signs.
this group, overall, sounds to me like a bunch of entitled whiners.
but hey, you said I preferred OWS to tea party, so I'm sure you got a link?
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Accusations Of Teen Runaway Sexual Activity At Occupy Dallas
CBS Local ^ | October 24, 2011 11:01 AM | Staff
CBS 11 News has learned of an investigation into the possible sexual assault of a 14-year-old girl at the Occupy Dallas campsite.
Some members of the group told CBS 11 they never knew the girl was 14 and that she had claimed to be 19 years old.
Police were alerted after someone recognized the girl from a picture seen on a flyer asking for help locating a missing teen.
When police took the girl into custody Sunday afternoon she reportedly told them she had been having sex with a man in his 20’s at the Occupy Dallas encampment and had engaged in sexual activity with several other people.
One Occupy Dallas protestor said if the allegations are true measures should be taken to ensure everyone’s safety.
“We’ll find out what the truth is and if that’s her story, that she was having sex with older men in the park, I guess we really need to watch the age group that’s coming in here and get control of that,” Rich Coffman said.
Occupy Dallas organizers told CBS 11 they’ll implement a 10 p.m. curfew and check the identification of anyone seen walking the grounds after that time.
Monday morning the girl remained in custody as police continued to investigate the allegations.
The Occupy Dallas protest, an offshoot of a group staging a protest in New York City called Occupy Wall Street, began more than two weeks ago.
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Class Warfare Breaks Out Within The 'Occupy' Movement
Joe Weisenthal | Oct. 24, 2011, 8:31 AM | 4,275 | 38
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Occupy Wall Street is the new 1%.
It's raised a ton of money, and it won't share with other Occupy sites.
From Metro New York:
Occupy Wall Street’s New York encampment has amassed nearly half a million dollars since they first started, according to Brooklynite Pete Dutro, 36, of the organization’s finance committee.
But New York protesters haven’t shared one cent with other Occupy camps set up across the nation.
“We could definitely use [New York’s funds],” Vernon Johnson, a volunteer at Occupy Philly, said yesterday. “What’s the point of collecting money if you’re not releasing it to the people you’re trying to help?”
“We need money bad,” agreed fellow Philadelphia protester Kate Corbett. Occupy Philly has raised $10,000.
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they should organize some flash mobs. That'd be badass.
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Ex-Obama staffer, other supporters leading Obama protests in SF Tuesday
SFGate.com ^ | 10/24/11 | Joe Garofoli
Posted on October 24, 2011 10:28:53 PM EDT by NormsRevenge
President Obama will again be in San Francisco Tuesday — but only to take money from the “fat cats” that he said that he said waaaay back in 2009 that he didn’t run for president to protect. No, he won’t be spending any time with the “99 percent.” Not unless they cut him a $7,500 check for lunch. ..
But Obama will be greeted by a rainbow of people he’s disappointed — left, right and center during his $7,500-a-plate noon fundraiser right here at the W Hotel in San Francisco. ..
We know that Tea Partiers (protesting Obama’s economic policy) from all over Northern California will be on hand Tuesday as will the 99 Percenters from Occupy Wall Street/San Francisco. California NORML will be there ... AndWorld Can’t Wait ... Cindy Sheehan — who rose to fame as a George W. Bush nemesis and anti-war activist — will be speaking on Obama’s war policy.
But the biggest group — perhaps 500 strong — may be environmentalists fronted by former Obama campaign staffer Elijah Zarlin. The Mendocino native/Oakland resident used to write fundraising e-mails for Obama during his 2008 prez campaign. Now he works for SF-based CREDO Action.
And he’s “disappointed” with how the President has “failed to lead” on stopping the proposed 1,700-mile Keystone XL pipeline, which would bring highly polluting oil from Canada’s tar sands to the United States.
(Excerpt) Read more at blog.sfgate.com ...
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http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/10/24/pair-living-with-occupy-boston-protesters-arrested-for-selling-heroin
Nice - not only pot - but heroin now too?
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http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/10/24/pair-living-with-occupy-boston-protesters-arrested-for-selling-heroin
Nice - not only pot - but heroin now too?
Don't vote for crack... vote for SMACK!
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National Interest - US
EXCLUSIVE: ACORN Playing Behind Scenes Role in 'Occupy' Movement
By Jana Winter
Fox News
Oct. 17, 2011: Members of New York Communities for Change, in orange t-shirts with orange banner, attend a press conference in New York with union leaders, including United Federation of Teachers president Michael Mulgrew.
The former New York office for ACORN, the disbanded community activist group, is playing a key role in the self-proclaimed “leaderless” Occupy Wall Street movement, organizing “guerrilla” protest events and hiring door-to-door canvassers to collect money under the banner of various causes while spending it on protest-related activities, sources tell FoxNews.com.
The former director of New York ACORN, Jon Kest, and his top aides are now busy working at protest events for New York Communities for Change (NYCC). That organization was created in late 2009 when some ACORN offices disbanded and reorganized under new names after undercover video exposes prompted Congress to cut off federal funds.
NYCC’s connection to ACORN isn’t a tenuous one: It works from the former ACORN offices in Brooklyn, uses old ACORN office stationery, employs much of the old ACORN staff and, according to several sources, engages in some of the old organization’s controversial techniques to raise money, interest and awareness for the protests.
Sources said NYCC has hired about 100 former ACORN-affiliated staff members from other cities – paying some of them $100 a day - to attend and support Occupy Wall Street. Dozens of New York homeless people recruited from shelters are also being paid to support the protests, at the rate of $10 an hour, the sources said.
At least some of those hired are being used as door-to-door canvassers to collect money that’s used to support the protests.
Sources said cash donations collected by NYCC on behalf of some unions and various causes are being pooled and spent on Occupy Wall Street. The money is used to buy supplies, pay staff and cover travel expenses for the ex-ACORN members brought to New York for the protests.
In one such case, sources said, NYCC staff members collected cash donations for what they were told was a United Federation of Teachers fundraising drive, but the money was diverted to the protests.
Sources who participated in the teachers union campaign said NYCC supervisors gave them the addresses of union members and told them to go knock on their doors and ask for contributions—and did not mention that the money would go toward Occupy Wall Street expenses. One source said the campaign raked in about $5,000.
Current staff members at NYCC told FoxNews.com the union fundraising drive was called off abruptly last week, and they were told NYCC should not have been raising money for the union at all.
Sources said staff members also collected door-to-door for NYCC’s PCB campaign — which aims to test schools for deadly toxins —but then pooled that money together with cash raised for the teachers union and other campaigns to fund Occupy Wall Street.
“We go to Freeport, Central Islip, Park Slope, everywhere, and we say we’re collecting money for PCBs testing in schools. But the money isn’t going to the campaign," one source said.
"It’s going to Occupy Wall Street, and we’re not using that money to get schools tested for deadly chemicals or to make their kids safer. It’s just going to the protests, and that’s just so terrible.”
A spokesman for the United Federation of Teachers told FoxNews.com, "The UFT is not involved in any NYCC fundraising on the PCB issue.”
Multiple sources said NYCC is also using cash donations through canvassing efforts in New York’s Harlem and Washington Heights neighborhoods for union-backed campaigns to fund the Wall Street protests.
“All the money collected from canvasses is pooled together back at the office, and everything we’ve been working on for the last year is going to the protests, against big banks and to pay people’s salaries—and those people on salary are, of course, being paid to go to the protests every day,” one NYCC staff member told FoxNews.com.
Those who contribute don't know the money is going to fund the protests, the source said.
“They give contributions because we say if they do we can fix things - whatever specific problem they’re having in their area, housing, schools, whatever ... then we spend the contributions paying staff to be at the protests all day, every day. That’s where these contributions - the community’s money – is going,” the source said.
“They’re doing the same stuff now that got ACORN in trouble to begin with. And yes, we’re still ACORN, there is a still a national ACORN.”
Another source, who said she was hired from a homeless shelter, said she was first sent to the protests before being deployed to Central Islip, Long Island, to canvass for a campaign against home foreclosures.
“I went to the protests every day for two weeks and made $10 an hour. They made me carry NYCC signs and big orange banners that say NYCC in white letters. About 50 others were hired around my time to go to the protests. We went to protests in and around Zuccotti Park, then to the big Times Square protest,” she said.
“But now they have me canvassing on Long Island for money, so I get the money and then the money is being used for Occupy Wall Street—to pay for all of it, for supplies, food, transportation, salaries, for everything ... all that money is going to pay for the protests downtown and that’s just messed up. It’s just wrong.”
Neither Kest, NYCC executive director, nor his communications director returned repeated email and telephone requests for comment, nor did his communications director. A Fox News producer who visited the Brooklyn office on Tuesday was told, "The best people to speak to who are involved with Occupy Wall Street aren't available."
In a phone interview on Tuesday, Harrison Schultz, an Occupy Wall Street spokesman, said he knew nothing about NYCC’s involvement in the Occupy movement.
“Haven’t seen them, couldn’t tell you,” he said.
He said he couldn’t comment on the Occupy the Boardroom website’s relationship to the movement and to NYCC.
“It’s a horizontal organization, a leaderless organization, it’s difficult to explain it,” Schultz said, “difficult to explain it to people who haven’t worked in this, who haven’t been part of it.”
Kest publicly threw his organization’s support behind the movement in a Sept. 30 opinion piece on HuffingtonPost.com. But top ex-ACORN staff members and current NYCC officials have been planning events like the Occupy Wall Street protests since February, a source within the group told FoxNews.com.
That’s when planning began for May 12 protests against Chase bank foreclosures, which were followed by the formation of the Beyond May 12 campaign, targeting Wall Street and big banks. That campaign was rolled out by a coalition of community groups and unions and led by the revamped former ACORN group.
“What people don’t understand is that ACORN is behind this — and that this, what’s happening now, is all part of the May 12 and Beyond May 12 plans to go after the banks, Chase in particular,” a source said.
Sources said NYCC was a key player behind a series of recent Occupy Wall Street events, including the Oct. 11 Millionaires March, which brought protests and union and community groups on walking tours of Upper East Side homes of wealthy New Yorkers; and the launch of the “Occupy the Boardroom” website, registered to Kest, which encouraged protesters to contact high-profile bankers, among others.
Fox News’ Shira Bush contributed reporting.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/26/exclusive-acorn-playing-behind-scenes-role-in-occupy-movement/#ixzz1buFiUP21
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knew it all along. SUCKERS!
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Oh that's funny. ACORN lives. lol
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/26/peter_schiff_takes_on_occupy_wall_street_protesters.html
Schiff taking out the trash!
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Mayor Villaraigosa: Occupy L.A. 'cannot continue indefinitely'
Los Angeles Times ^ | 10/26/11 | Kate Linthicum
Posted on October 26, 2011 8:56:13 PM EDT by NormsRevenge
Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said Wednesday that the Occupy Los Angeles encampment outside City Hall "cannot continue indefinitely" and has asked city officials to draft restrictions limiting when people are allowed on city property.
"I respect the protesters' right to peacefully assemble and express their views," Villaraigosa said. "City officials have been in a continuous and open dialogue with the organizers of Occupy L.A. However, the protesters must respect city laws and regulations, and while they have been allowed to camp on City Hall lawns, that cannot continue indefinitely."
A spokeswoman for the mayor said he has also instructed city officials to begin drafting a plan to identify another location for the demonstration.
In an interview Wednesday, the mayor said county health inspectors recently visited the encampment and expressed concerns over the cleanliness of the camp. In addition, the demonstration is hurting the city’s lawn and trees.
"The lawn is dead, our sprinklers aren't working ... our trees are without water," Villaraigosa said.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...
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still waiting for andre and 240 to tell us how many tea partiers were arrested for disorderly conduct...
guess the argument that the police use that to arrest ppl at all protest is bogus?
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still waiting for andre and 240 to tell us how many tea partiers were arrested for disorderly conduct...
200 million. I'm still waiting on confirmation.
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200 million. I'm still waiting on confirmation.
India Times.
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India Times.
what did michelle read?
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Occupy Portland: As much as $20,000 goes missing; unions join a march through downtown
The Oregonian ^ | October 26, 2011 | Anne Saker
Posted on October 26, 2011 10:50:05 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Organizers of Occupy Portland say they fear as much as $20,000 donated to the group through a PayPal account has disappeared.
They also say the group's finance committee has hijacked the demonstration's Internet domain name and filed for incorporation against the wishes of the group's decision-making body.
The demonstrator who filed the papers with the state said she did so to protect the protest, and she has received death threats as a result.
The rift arose before members of the movement joined labor union supporters Wednesday to march through downtown Portland during rush hour. The peaceful rally drew about 1,000 people, but caused few traffic disruptions as protesters repeated their mantra: "We are the 99 percent!"
Half a dozen speakers praised the occupation and urged the group to keep fighting. Marchers included children and dogs, babies in strollers and people on bikes.
The harmony of the gathering contrasted to a flare-up within the local movement.
Earlier in the day, Jordan LeDoux, who works for the media, communications, public relations and web team of the protest, said that since 8 p.m. Tuesday, Occupy Portland has not been able to get into its own Internet page, occupypdx.org.
LeDoux said a member of the finance committee apparently took control of the website.
Papers filed with the Oregon secretary of state's office Monday show that an entity called "Occupy Portland" was registered as a nonprofit.
But LeDoux said the demonstration's General Assembly, where the protesters come to consensus on issues, had repeatedly declined to incorporate with the state.
The "registered agent" for the incorporated body is listed as Reid Jackson of Hillsboro. LeDoux said Jackson was also on Occupy Portland's finance committee.
In a telephone interview, Jackson said she undertook the incorporation "to protect these people. ... I've tried explaining it to them, but they won't listen to me. There is someone who has infiltrated the group and is trying to capitalize on the money."
Jackson would not identify the "infiltrator," but she said that disputes over the finance committee had escalated to the point where she had received death threats.
About 500 people have been camping in Chapman and Lownsdale squares in downtown since Oct. 6 as part of a global movement to protest the loss of jobs in the United States, corporate money in politics and unfair banking practices.
While camping in city parks is illegal, Portland's government has permitted Occupy Portland to stay put.
LeDoux said Occupy Portland's organizers believe that "between $10,000 and $20,000" has disappeared from the protest's control. LeDoux said a finance committee member linked his PayPal account to occupypdx.org for donations.
LeDoux said the General Assembly had repeatedly asked the finance committee of eight to 10 members to provide an accounting of the money coming it, but the finance committee never did so.
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lolzers at repubs laughing and angry that 20k of donation money goes missing.
but they're cool with US govt sealing the records for 20 years regarding 60 BILLION cash lost in iraq.
you fckwads deserve another 4 years of obama. You do.
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lolzers at repubs laughing and angry that 20k of donation money goes missing.
but they're cool with US govt sealing the records for 20 years regarding 60 BILLION cash lost in iraq.
you fckwads deserve another 4 years of obama. You do.
Are you actually capable of discussing something without comparing it to Repubs? You're fucking obsessed with them. You rationalize everything this regime does by comparing it to Bush and co., you know, the worst president ever and all that. ::)
Seriously, I hope MoveOn is paying you for the amount of time you spend running interference for Downgrade. How many sites are you doing it on?
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lolzers at repubs laughing and angry that 20k of donation money goes missing.
but they're cool with US govt sealing the records for 20 years regarding 60 BILLION cash lost in iraq.
you fckwads deserve another 4 years of obama. You do.
yes yes, when you cant defend, DEFLECT!!!!!!!
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A former Marine and Iraq war veteran has been hospitalized after being struck in the head with a police projectile during the Occupy Oakland demonstration Tuesday night.
The injury occurred as police attempted to disperse the crowd.
Scott Olsen, a member of Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War, has a skull fracture and is unconscious at Highland Hospital in Oakland, according to Keith Shannon, also a former Marine, who served with Olsen in Iraq in 2006-2007.
“He is sedated and on a respirator,” Shannon said. In addition to the fracture Olsen has some swelling of the brain, he said. Shannon said he believes Olsen was struck by a tear-gas canister.
For more:http://www.military.com/news/article/iraq-war-vet-injured-in-occupy-protest.html?comp=1198882887570&rank=1 (http://www.military.com/news/article/iraq-war-vet-injured-in-occupy-protest.html?comp=1198882887570&rank=1)
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A former Marine and Iraq war veteran has been hospitalized after being struck in the head with a police projectile during the Occupy Oakland demonstration Tuesday night.
The injury occurred as police attempted to disperse the crowd.
Scott Olsen, a member of Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War, has a skull fracture and is unconscious at Highland Hospital in Oakland, according to Keith Shannon, also a former Marine, who served with Olsen in Iraq in 2006-2007.
“He is sedated and on a respirator,” Shannon said. In addition to the fracture Olsen has some swelling of the brain, he said. Shannon said he believes Olsen was struck by a tear-gas canister.
For more:http://www.military.com/news/article/iraq-war-vet-injured-in-occupy-protest.html?comp=1198882887570&rank=1 (http://www.military.com/news/article/iraq-war-vet-injured-in-occupy-protest.html?comp=1198882887570&rank=1)
Read about that - ridiculous for cops to be using tear gas.
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Rikers cons flood Zuccotti for free eats (OWC NY)
New York Post ^ | October 26, 2011 | REBECCA ROSENBERG, JAMIE SCHRAM and BOB FREDERICKS
Newly sprung ex-cons and vagrants rousted from other parks are crashing the Occupy Wall Street protest, where gourmet meals are free and boozy, drugfueled parties are on tap, the movement’s leaders griped yesterday.
“They’re telling people who leave prison to go to Zuccotti Park,” lamented Daniel Zetah, a leader of the OWS community-relations group.
Volunteer Lauren Digioia, 26, said, “We have drug dealing going on here, gang activity, public intoxication. There are a lot of instigators. There are a lot of vultures.
“Everyone knows we give out free food and sleeping bags, and it’s a perfect opportunity for squatters.”
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LMFAO!!!!
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Rikers cons flood Zuccotti for free eats
By REBECCA ROSENBERG, JAMIE SCHRAM and BOB FREDERICKS
Last Updated: 6:17 AM, October 26, 2011
Newly sprung ex-cons and vagrants rousted from other parks are crashing the Occupy Wall Street protest, where gourmet meals are free and boozy, drugfueled parties are on tap, the movement’s leaders griped yesterday.
“They’re telling people who leave prison to go to Zuccotti Park,” lamented Daniel Zetah, a leader of the OWS community-relations group.
Volunteer Lauren Digioia, 26, said, “We have drug dealing going on here, gang activity, public intoxication. There are a lot of instigators. There are a lot of vultures.
“Everyone knows we give out free food and sleeping bags, and it’s a perfect opportunity for squatters.”
Digioia said she recently met a man who just before getting sprung from Rikers, was told by a fellow inmate to hit Zuccotti for the free accommodations.
The frustrated organizers said they’re brainstorming how to launch a protest within the protest to target the drunken, stoned layabouts.
The derelicts, organizers say, are terrorizing people who are there to support the movement.
“There’s a lot of drugs, alcohol, assault [and] theft [by] the homeless groups coming in. We’ve had meetings all day to brainstorm what to do,’’ said Zetah, 34.
The hardened thugs are having a field day preying on overly trusting protesters, many of whom hail from small towns, leaders said.
On Monday, a 24-year-old Brooklyn woman originally from Brownville, Maine — population 1,260 — told cops that three men threatened her because she’d fingered one of their pals for brutally punching her and two others, another woman and a man in the face Oct. 11.
“You got our friend arrested. We’re going to kill you. Watch your back,” one of them told her.
Garfield Leslie, 19, of Brooklyn, was later charged with assault and Hasan Castillo, 23, of East Orange, NJ, with intimidating a witness.
And when the undesirables aren’t intimidating protesters, organizers said, they’re adding to the filth.
NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said he was unsure whether ex-cons really are relocating to the encampment.
But he added that “we’ve made arrests of suspects who assaulted people in Zuccotti Park in one instance, sexually abused a woman in another, and removed an individual who had stolen another’s boots.”
Meanwhile, in other developments yesterday:
* The NYPD inspector who pepper-sprayerd a protestor has been quietly transferred to an administrative post on Staten Island, The Post has learned. Anthony Bologna had been docked 10 vacation days after he was caught on video spraying teacher’s aide Kaylee Dedrick, 24, in the eyes.
His new assignment, as the borough’s special-projects inspector, will “get him out of the line of fire,’’ a source said.
* Four demonstrators headed uptown yesterday to harass Rep. Charles Rangel, who’d twice visited Zuccotti Park to support OWS but drew their wrath by voting for free-trade agreements with South Korea and Panama.
* A splinter group of OWS protesters and supporters found a new target — the city Department of Education. More than 100 demonstrators, including teachers, last night disrupted a schools meeting — shouting down Chancellor Dennis Walcott — at Seward Park HS on the Lower East Side.
The protesters complained about too much test prep, lack of resources and recent layoffs.
They’re drowning out the parents, who were the primary focus for tonight,” Walcott lamented to reporters.
* Another Community Board 1 meeting was held to address ongoing concerns over Zuccotti, which is in its area. The board voted 33-3 to limit drumming there to two hours a day.
A motion to clear out all the protesters from part of the park was tabled.
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Perfect advertisement why liberals and socialists are the dumbest, most ignorant, most ridiculous segment of our society.
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Perfect advertisement why liberals and socialists are the dumbest, most ignorant, most ridiculous segment of our society.
their vote counts just as much as yours.
on the other hand, you have supported romney over ron paul... it's all relative.
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their vote counts just as much as yours.
on the other hand, you have supported romney over ron paul... it's all relative.
Not as of a post I saw from our crazy New Yorker this morning... He's Team RP.
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Not as of a post I saw from our crazy New Yorker this morning... He's Team RP.
I voted for romney in the primary in 2008.
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Not as of a post I saw from our crazy New Yorker this morning... He's Team RP.
33 changes his mind faster than Rick Perry loses his cool.
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http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/10/27/occupy-boston-removes-two-from-finance-team
Lmfao!!!!!
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So any person that I can find who is on Occupy Wall Street, that person is a rapist, a rat, a robber, a runaway, and a public defecater?
Do I really need to go into the failed logic of the thread title?
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So any person that I can find who is on Occupy Wall Street, that person is a rapist, a rat, a robber, a runaway, and a public defecater?
Do I really need to go into the failed logic of the thread title?
he's painted 99.99999% of them with a few examples. The left-wing media did it against the tea party, calling them all racists.
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he's painted 99.99999% of them with a few examples. The left-wing media did it against the tea party, calling them all racists.
by this thread title, he's painted 100% of them with a few examples.
I'll never understand the "they did it too!" excuse in politics. How about nobody does it?
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OWS Protester Threatens to "Stab Reporter in Throat" (With Video)
Pundit Press ^ | 10/28/11 | Aurelius
Posted on Friday, October 28, 2011 11:06:53 AM by therightliveswithus
Early Friday morning Fox News NY Reporter John Huddy was threatened by an Occupy Wall Street protester, who rushed at him, tearing at his microphone. After the fray, the man told Huddy that he would "stab him in the throat," and then brandished a pen.
Huddy then was talked to by other Occupy Wall Street protesters, who seemed to take the crazed person's side. While the reporter was talking with these people, the assailant kept loudly mumbling, "I have a meeting with Bloomberg." He then wandered towards the news camera, blankly staring at it for a moment.
The assailant, staring at the camera
The man then fled, but was arrested by the NYPD shortly after.
This is just another incident in what is becoming a hefty list of violence related with the Occupy Wall Street movement. Earlier this month, an NYPD officer was tackled by a protester, while cars and buildings were burned in Rome by OWS members.
(Excerpt) Read more at punditpress.com ...
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Occupy Madison Loses Permit Because Protesters were "Publicly Masturbating"
Pundit Press ^ | 10/28/11 | Aurelius
Occupy Madison has temporarily been denied an extension in their protesting permit because members of the movement violated "public health and safety conditions." The group also did not properly fill out the form.
City officials cited several specific reasons for their decision. The most notable was repeated complains from a nearby hotel, which stated that protesters were "publicly masturbating" in full view of passersby.
The city also cited health violations because the group had "no restrooms," implying that the protesters may have been defecating in public as well.
Paul Streeter, an OWS spokesman, responded to the situation: "[The protest] is indeed a work in progress," he said. "We will continue to address issues as they come up."
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mods, please change topic thread title to include masturbation. thanks in advance.
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Americans Blame Gov't More Than Wall Street for Economy
Gallup ^ | October 19, 2011 | Frank Newport
Republicans largely blame government, Democrats split blame between the two
Americans are more than twice as likely to blame the federal government in Washington (64%) for the economic problems facing the United States as they are the financial institutions on Wall Street (30%).
Both of these large entities have been the target of protest groups this year. The Occupy Wall Street movement has focused on large financial institutions on Wall Street, while the Tea Party movement continues to focus mainly on the federal government.
There appears to be no shortage of blame for either of these entities. The Oct. 15-16 USA Today/Gallup poll asked Americans how much they blame the federal government for the economy and, separately, how much they blame financial...
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Not surprisingly, Americans who consider themselves supporters of the Occupy Wall Street movement (26% of all Americans) are more likely to blame Wall Street than the federal government for the nation's economic problems. Supporters of the Tea Party movement (22% of Americans) are overwhelmingly likely to blame the government. Republicans and independents blame the federal government more; Democrats are split essentially in half, with about as many blaming Wall Street as blame the federal government.
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Occupy Phoenix Asks: When Should You Shoot a Cop?
http://townhall.com ^ | 10/28/2011 | Katie Pavlich
Welcome to Occupy Phoenix, the latest violent embarrassment to American society. This group of occupiers is asking, "When should you shoot a cop?" Pamphlets asking this question and laying out justifications for doing so were left at the Occupy Wall Street location in Phoenix, Arizona and found by a Maricopa County Sheriff Deputy.
That's right folks, according to the OWS crowd, changing society "almost always requires" killing law enforcement officers. Law enforcement officers in the Grand Canyon state have been placed on high alert and the Arizona Counter-Terrorism Information Center has published a safety memo in response to the threats of unapologetic cop killing.
(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...
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So any person that I can find who is on Occupy Wall Street, that person is a rapist, a rat, a robber, a runaway, and a public defecater?
Do I really need to go into the failed logic of the thread title?
No, you don't. Ever. There's only failed logic in the tread title if your brain can't process the concept of hyperbole.
For Halloween are your dressing up in your Semantics Man or Literal Man outfit?
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Has anyone figured out what these people are trying to accomplish yet?
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No, you don't. Ever. There's only failed logic in the tread title if your brain can't process the concept of hyperbole.
For Halloween are your dressing up in your Semantics Man or Literal Man outfit?
LMAO
I think his literal man costume is going to consist of lipstick, a blonde wig and a short skirt with a dangling plunger stuck up his ass and a big sign across his chest that says (No Homo).
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Report: Fights erupt among Occupy Wall Street protesters
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/10/report-fights-erupt-between-occupy-wall-street-protesters/1
Fights are erupting among Occupy Wall Street protesters, so much so that one corner of Zuccotti Park has emerged where protesters say they won't go for fear of their safety, the New York Daily News is reporting.
Police officers also have been warned of "dangerous instruments" being concealed in cardboard tubing, the News says it has been told by unidentified police sources.
MORE: Full coverage
"There is a lot of infighting in the park," a police source told the news organization. "There is one part of the park where they won't even go at night."
Meantime, Ed Mullins, president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association, is warning protesters at Zuccotti Park in Manhattan that he will pursue civil suits against anyone who assaults a union member.
"New York's police officers are working around the clock as the already overburdened economy in New York is being drained by 'occupiers' who intentionally and maliciously instigate needless and violent confrontations with the police," the News reports Mullins said in a statement.
But protesters tell the News they have been the victims of police brutality, not the other way around.
"We have been brutalized and mass-arrested by the NYPD," said protester Jen Waller, 24, of Brooklyn. "They can threaten us all they want. We've got lawyers, too."
See photos of: Occupy Wall Street
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lolzers at pussified republicans.
they're all upset that a few people are fighting.
yall have no balls. for real. get HRT or something.
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lolzers at pussified republicans.
they're all upset that a few people are fighting.
yall have no balls. for real. get HRT or something.
of course theres fighting......these guys have been together for over forty days.....of course they are going to get on each other's nerves....the tea party get-togethers are 50% senior citizens who meet for an hour tops
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of course theres fighting......these guys have been together for over forty days.....of course they are going to get on each other's nerves....the tea party get-togethers are 50% senior citizens who meet for an hour tops
there were always fights and throwdowns at those 'keep your govt hands off my medicare' meetings.
just assholes being assholes, same as at the OWS rallies.
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there were always fights and throwdowns at those 'keep your govt hands off my medicare' meetings.
just assholes being assholes, same as at the OWS rallies.
agreed,,again there have been no real major crimes which is remarkable considering that there are a lot of energetic young people, many with really spaced out weird agendas.....Yes they are annoying, no doubt about it but I find it remarkable that they have held together for so long and are spending nights in the streets.....it takes a lot of commitment and fortitude to do that..I don't agree with everything on their agenda but they have a right to express it as long as they maintain control of themselves
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agreed,,again there have been no real major crimes which is remarkable considering that there are a lot of energetic young people, many with really spaced out weird agendas.....Yes they are annoying, no doubt about it but I find it remarkable that they have held together for so long and are spending nights in the streets.....it takes a lot of commitment and fortitude to do that..I don't agree with everything on their agenda but they have a right to express it as long as they maintain control of themselves
you can't forget about the infiltrators - who enter peaceful protests and makea mess of things.
Republican governor scott walker openly considered the use of these agents - to go into crowds and cause violence to make the whole crowd look bad.
He was even recorded on tape laughing that he only didn't do it because he feared political backlash - but no concerns about the potential loss of american lives.
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you can't forget about the infiltrators - who enter peaceful protests and makea mess of things.
Republican governor scott walker openly considered the use of these agents - to go into crowds and cause violence to make the whole crowd look bad.
He was even recorded on tape laughing that he only didn't do it because he feared political backlash - but no concerns about the potential loss of american lives.
yes true...some felons fresh out of jail,,,homeless.....and freeloaders....but remarkably the true protesters accepted these people and let them stay...very diverse mix of people from all economic and racial backgrounds
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yes true...some felons fresh out of jail,,,homeless.....and freeloaders....but remarkably the true protesters accepted these people and let them stay...very diverse mix of people from all economic and racial backgrounds
No, they didn't. They're trying to get them out of there and even stopped serving the gourmet food for three days in an effort to get them to leave.
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. Apparently the same applies to reasons for being at the protest.
Funny watching socialists show why socialism never works.
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No, they didn't. They're trying to get them out of there and even stopped serving the gourmet food for three days in an effort to get them to leave.
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. Apparently the same applies to reasons for being at the protest.
Funny watching socialists show why socialism never works.
and I guess your ultra conservatism is the wave of the future huh???
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and I guess your ultra conservatism is the wave of the future huh???
Ultra conservatives support gay marriage and abortion? News to me.
Funny how fiscal conservatives get painted with such a broad brush.
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and I guess your ultra conservatism is the wave of the future huh???
Yeah - Win the Future! With Obamunism, communism, kenyanomics, etc.
Whatever 95% idiot.
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Study: Big Three TV Networks Have Devoted More Than Double The Coverage To Occupy Wall Street Than The Tea Party, 87% Has Been Positive
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(The Daily) — The Big Three TV networks have devoted far more attention to Occupy Wall Street than they did to the tea party, according to a new study by the Washington-based Media Research Center. CBS, NBC and ABC reported a mere 13 times on the tea party throughout all of its first year, 2009. In contrast, they ran 33 stories or segments about Occupy within 11 days.
So does the disparity in coverage mean Occupy is getting special treatment? Maybe, suggests the report. On CBS, NBC and ABC, most of the interview sound bites — 109 clips, or 87 percent — were from either protesters or supporters of Occupy, whereas only 6 percent were critical of the movement. Morning-show coverage has also been favorable, with seven guests expressing sympathy for protesters and none opposing or criticizing them. We don’t seem to remember the tea party getting such good press.
http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/10/28/102811-opinions-chart-ows-teaparty-graphic-and-text/
Cue 180 to make some vague, rambling diatribe about Fox.
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Ultra conservatives support gay marriage and abortion? News to me.
Funny how fiscal conservatives get painted with such a broad brush.
you do the same to liberals
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No, you don't. Ever. There's only failed logic in the tread title if your brain can't process the concept of hyperbole.
For Halloween are your dressing up in your Semantics Man or Literal Man outfit?
Shhhhhhh
Mageek thinks he's an intellectual by honing in on the important stuff like thread titles. You don't want to offend the ego.
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There's nothing to complain about FOX> OReilly said fox's job wasn't to be balanced. Rather, to PROVIDE A BALANCE by giving us the viewpoint that the left media does not.
Or, to spin it for you twatters- "It's a real indicator of the fact this OWS movement is far bigger than anything those tea party racists were ever able to imagine... catching on worldwide and igniting emotions on all sides of the spectrum!"
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There's nothing to complain about FOX> OReilly said fox's job wasn't to be balanced. Rather, to PROVIDE A BALANCE by giving us the viewpoint that the left media does not.
Or, to spin it for you twatters- "It's a real indicator of the fact this OWS movement is far bigger than anything those tea party racists were ever able to imagine... catching on worldwide and igniting emotions on all sides of the spectrum!"
agreed...and it shows just how small in comparison the far-right really is when compared to OWS...as 240 said, OWS is a WORLD-WIDE phenomenon....my feeling is that MOST people are left of center in terms of mindset...not extreme far left or right
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agreed...and it shows just how small in comparison the far-right really is when compared to OWS...as 240 said, OWS is a WORLD-WIDE phenomenon....my feeling is that MOST people are left of center in terms of mindset...not extreme far left or right
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agreed...and it shows just how small in comparison the far-right really is when compared to OWS...as 240 said, OWS is a WORLD-WIDE phenomenon....my feeling is that MOST people are left of center in terms of mindset...not extreme far left or right
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Polling shows that most people in this country are right of center. You can click your heels together and it still won't change.
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Woman charged with pimping teen recruited at Occupy NH rally
By PAT GROSSMITH
New Hampshire Union Leader
Published Oct 28, 2011 at 10:15 am (Updated Oct 28, 2011) ShareThis
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• JUSTINA JENSEN
MANCHESTER - A city woman is accused of pimping a 16-year-old girl she met in Victory Park during the Occupy NH demonstrations.
Justina Jensen, 23, of 341 Hanover St., is charged with felony prostitution. Police allege Jensen met a teen at the local protest, which is an offshoot of Occupy Wall Street, and used the Internet to arrange a first liaison for the girl with a man who turned out to be an undercover police officer.
Police said the teen's mother called them Thursday about noon to say her daughter was missing and that her photograph had been posted on a website advertising adult party entertainment.
Court documents show the mother told police she and a friend had used the website to negotiate a deal for the friend to pay for sex with the teen.
Investigators looked at the website and found the girl's photo posted there, along with pictures of three other women, in an advertisement offering men to “come and have fun with four beautiful ladies” in Manchester.
Police said a woman who called herself “Remy” negotiated a telephone deal for “Mad Mike” to pay $150 to have sex with the teen called "Jewel."
An undercover officer, identifying himself as “Mad Mike,” called “Remy” to find out where to go and she gave him her 341 Hanover St. address.
When he arrived at the address and Jensen confirmed she was “Remy,” the officer identified himself as a police officer and told Jensen she was under arrest. Police said Jensen attempted to reenter the building to escape, but the officer was able to stop her and, after some resistance, handcuff her.
The missing teen was found inside Jensen's third-floor apartment. Court documents show the teenage girl told police that Jensen had taken her photo and posted it on the website and said Jensen was going to start training her to be a prostitute, with her first customer scheduled to be “Mad Mike.”
Police said Jensen was using her residence to facilitate prostitution involving an individual under the age of 18, so she is charged with felony prostitution. She was also charged with misdemeanor resisting arrest.
In Circuit Court-Manchester District Division Friday, Jensen repeatedly dozed off while waiting to be arraigned.
Jensen could enter no plea to the felony in Circuit Court, so a probable cause hearing was set for Nov. 10, when there will be a status hearing on the misdemeanor resisting arrest charge.
Police prosecutor Capt. Robert Cunha asked Judge Gregory Michael to set bail of $10,000 cash/surety for Jensen, with bail conditions that include no contact with the minor girl and a waiver of extradition.
Cunha said that in addition to concern for public safety, there is concern about two suicide attempts made by Jensen following her arrest.
He said she attempted to strangle herself with her shoelaces when she was left alone briefly in an interview room at the police department and, after she was taken to the Elliot Hospital, attempted to strangle herself with the ties of the hospital jonny. Cunha said Jensen struggled so violently at the hospital that she had to be sedated.
Cunha also said Jensen's ties to the city are not strong. He said she was convicted of a similar charge earlier this year in New York.
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LOL! Is that really her mug shot?
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LOL! Is that really her mug shot?
Yup.
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Yup.
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! ;D
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Now this is pure nonsense.
These people should be protesting the taxes required to pay these bums!
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Polling shows that most people in this country are right of center. You can click your heels together and it still won't change.
I meant world-wide in the industrialized nations where the protests are taking place
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On CBS, NBC and ABC, most of the interview sound bites — 109 clips, or 87 percent — were from either protesters or supporters of Occupy
To say this means it was "positive" coverage is absolutely false. I've seen plenty of clips where the reporter will deliberately pick the most fucked-up person they can find to "represent" the movement.
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Most people are to busy trying to work..these assholes have zero in common with the average American.
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To say this means it was "positive" coverage is absolutely false. I've seen plenty of clips where the reporter will deliberately pick the most fucked-up person they can find to "represent" the movement.
good point...good observation skills on your part
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News is entertainment. Slick graphics, dead bodies, gunfire, methed-out protesters, skinhead Tea-Partiers, hot blonde reporters, car chases, ghetto hoodrats, pimping, prostitutes, blood splatters, dictators killed in the back of pickup trucks, catchy music......not only is this the 6 o'clock news, but
DEATH WISH 3!
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still waiting for the prick 240 and racist andre to tell me how many tea partiers were arrested for disorderly conduct as that apparently happens at all protests and is why we cant count those for the OWS protests...
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Violence at Occupy Wall Street (Startling and sick photos!)
Fort Liberty ^ | October 29, 2011 | Will.Spencer
Posted on October 29, 2011 9:28:26 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Violence by Occupy Wall Street protesters has spread to demonstrations across the nation, with thousands of rioters arrested and dozens of police officers injured. Ed Mullins, president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association, explained “New York’s police officers are working around the clock as the already overburdened economy in New York is being drained by ‘occupiers’ who intentionally and maliciously instigate needless and violent confrontations with the police.” More than twenty New York city police officers have been injured by the protesters.
Here is a photo of Felix Rivera-Pitre, an HIV-positive protester, assaulting a New York city police officer:
AnkaKarewicz posted this photo from Occupy Oakland, showing that the event organizers were training the protesters how to assault peace officers:
Here’s a photo posted by @ReadyAimShoot of a protester at Occupy Oakland carrying a sign that says “All My Heroes Kill Cops”:
Here is a video of an Occupy Oakland protesters admitting that protesters were pelting the peace officers with bottles and rocks before the police were forced to use tear gas:
(VIDEO AT LINK)
The protesters at Occupy Phoenix have been distributing a leaflet titled “When Should You Shoot a Cop” which advocates the murder of law enforcement officers.
Protesters at Occupy Boston assaulted a young female member of America’s Coast Guard by spitting at her and throwing a bottle at her.
The Boston police are investigating threats made to their officers by Occupy Boston organizers, protesters, and sympathizers.
A protesters at Occupy Wall Street was arrested by police after he threatened to stab reporter John Huddy. The protester, Dustin Taylor, of Millerburg Ohio, was charged with grand larceny, menacing, criminal possession of a weapon, and harassment.
New York police also arrested a man for making death threats against a woman, because she reported an assault to the NYPD. The protester, Hasan Castillo, of East Orange New Jersey was arrested, but police as still searching for two accomplices. They men apparently told the woman “You had our friend arrested — we’re going to kill you. Watch your back.”
This speaker at Occupy LA explains that non-violence will not work and that violence is necessary to achieve the Occupiers goals:
(VIDEO AT LINK)
It isn’t only that the protesters are engaging in violence, or that the organizers are encouraging violence. To make matters worse, the organizers are discouraging event participants from reporting violence and other crimes to the police as part of their media management strategy. Victims of violence, including sexual assault, are being pressured to let these crimes go unreported so as to prevent media coverage of these incidents. One police officer described the grim situation in Zuccotti Park, “There is a lot of infighting in the park. There is one part of the park where they won’t even go at night.”
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Denver police use force on Occupy protesters
CBS News' The Early Show / The Associated Press ^ | October 29, 2011 | David Morgan
Posted on October 29, 2011 9:01:44 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
DENVER - A tense standoff between protesters and authorities near the steps of the Colorado Capitol erupted into a clash Saturday that resulted in a surge of demonstrators being met with police force that included reports of pepper spray and rubber bullets.
The situation downtown escalated when some supporters of the Occupy Wall Street movement marching in a group of about 2,000 tried to advance up the Capitol steps.
About eight officers scuffled with a group of protesters, according to The Denver Post, and police confirmed to the newspaper that they used pepper spray and either rubber bullets or pepper balls to break up the crowd....
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
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still waiting for the prick 240
in all fairness, lots of people do call me a prick.
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how many iraqi war heroes were shot into critical condition this time around?
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Zuccotti perv: Fiend attacks protester in her tent (Sex assault last night, rape coverup earlier...)
NY Post ^ | 10/30/11 | KEVIN FASICK and CANDICE M. GIOVE
Posted on October 30, 2011 8:04:35 AM EDT by jimbo123
Wall Street protesters in Zuccotti Park battened down the hatches yesterday as the early October snow turned their tents into igloos, but the close quarters also made easy pickings for one predator.
A sex fiend barged into a woman’s tent and sexually assaulted her at around 6 a.m., said protesters, who chased him from the park.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
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in all fairness, lots of people do call me a prick.
you dont say, I wonder why that is?
possibly b/c you are a prick?
you have any numbers for tea party arrests or any good reasons why we shouldnt count these arrests for the OWS protestors?
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how many iraqi war heroes were shot into critical condition this time around?
You mean this Iraqi war hero......You asshole libs need new heroes. Thats from his flickr page. Olsen has a website called fuckthemarines.org. He's an asshole and a loser. But much like blacks who feel they can call Cain an Uncle Tom because their black...I can call this piece of shit...a piece of shit because I'm a vet myself.
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You mean this Iraqi war hero......You asshole libs need new heroes. Thats from his flickr page. Olsen has a website called fuckthemarines.org. He's an asshole and a loser. But much like blacks who feel they can call Cain an Uncle Tom because their black...I can call this piece of shit...a piece of shit because I'm a vet myself.
The few and the proud right there.
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You mean this Iraqi war hero......You asshole libs need new heroes. Thats from his flickr page. Olsen has a website called fuckthemarines.org. He's an asshole and a loser. But much like blacks who feel they can call Cain an Uncle Tom because their black...I can call this piece of shit...a piece of shit because I'm a vet myself.
Occupy Oakland protester Scott Olsen awake ahead of brain surgery
Scott Olsen, the Iraq war veteran who suffered serious head injuries after being hit by a projectile fired by police during the Occupy Oakland protests, has woken up and is lucid as he awaits surgery, hospital officials and family members have said.
Olsen, a 24-year-old former US Marine, was struck in the head during anti-Wall Street protests on Tuesday night. He has been upgraded from critical to fair condition.
Olsen "responded with a very large smile" to a visit from his parents, Highland General hospital spokesman Warren Lyons said. "He's able to understand what's going on. He's able to write and hear but has a little difficulty with his speech," Lyons said.
Doctors had not operated on Olsen yet and were waiting to see if swelling in his brain eased, Lyons said.
for more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/27/occupy-oakland-scott-olsen-surgery?newsfeed=true (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/27/occupy-oakland-scott-olsen-surgery?newsfeed=true)
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Occupy Portland shows greater need for community than disdain for capitalism
From a safe distance, the Occupation is an angry dog, a sagging tarp, the racking cough that feels winter closing in. When you only skirt the camp's perimeter, listening for one clear note in the cardboard cacophony, you are more likely to hear piercing resentment than the voice of Rebecca Solnit:
"I say this to you," Solnit wrote in "Hope in the Dark," "because hope is not like a lottery ticket you can sit on the sofa and clutch, feeling lucky.
"I say this because hope is an ax you break down doors with in an emergency; because hope should shove you out the door, because it will take everything you have to steer the future away from endless war, from the annihilation of the earth's treasures and the grinding down of the poor and marginal.
"Hope just means another world might be possible, not promised, not guaranteed."
For more:http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/steve_duin/index.ssf/2011/10/occupy_portland_shows_greater.html (http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/steve_duin/index.ssf/2011/10/occupy_portland_shows_greater.html)
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You mean this Iraqi war hero......You asshole libs need new heroes. Thats from his flickr page. Olsen has a website called fuckthemarines.org. He's an asshole and a loser. But much like blacks who feel they can call Cain an Uncle Tom because their black...I can call this piece of shit...a piece of shit because I'm a vet myself.
who cares about him???...his girl is HOT!
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LMFAO whats stopping this girl from starting her own business and gaining wealth on her own?
"annihilation of the earth's treasures and the grinding down of the poor and marginal"
what a crock of shit dude...
"In the past three years, she has bicycled across the United States while making a documentary on climate change; squatted for two months in a London rowhouse; lived for six weeks without electricity on a foam-and-fiberglass island "
at least she is living the life i guess, the vast majority of these morons are walking contradictions. Ranting about big corporations while texting on their iphones, listening to bought music, and wearing shirts with corporation's logos on them and not even batting an eye at the hypocrisey.
sorry hoss, if you have a computer and are able to blog about random shit. You dont get to complain about being poor and marginalized...maybe you should have planned better.
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who care about him???...his girl is HOT!
any word on how many tea partiers where arrested for disorderly conduct since according to you it happens at all protest you racist moron?
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Study: Big Three TV Networks Have Devoted More Than Double The Coverage To Occupy Wall Street Than The Tea Party, 87% Has Been Positive
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(The Daily) — The Big Three TV networks have devoted far more attention to Occupy Wall Street than they did to the tea party, according to a new study by the Washington-based Media Research Center. CBS, NBC and ABC reported a mere 13 times on the tea party throughout all of its first year, 2009. In contrast, they ran 33 stories or segments about Occupy within 11 days.
So does the disparity in coverage mean Occupy is getting special treatment? Maybe, suggests the report. On CBS, NBC and ABC, most of the interview sound bites — 109 clips, or 87 percent — were from either protesters or supporters of Occupy, whereas only 6 percent were critical of the movement. Morning-show coverage has also been favorable, with seven guests expressing sympathy for protesters and none opposing or criticizing them. We don’t seem to remember the tea party getting such good press.
http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/10/28/102811-opinions-chart-ows-teaparty-graphic-and-text/
Cue 180 to make some vague, rambling diatribe about Fox.
of course OWS will have more coverage...its a much bigger story....and its a worldwide phenomenon
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LMFAO whats stopping this girl from starting her own business and gaining wealth on her own?
a sense of self-pity and entitlement.
did you see my idea of "operation main street" where every single one of these protesters should take their starbucks card and wifi laptop, sit down, write a business plan, and take over the world? The outcome, of course, is taht they'd sell out and take the profits eventually.
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any word on how many tea partiers where arrested for disorderly conduct since according to you it happens at all protest you racist moron?
you keep calling me a racist...if you haven't got anything else to say then leave me alone and move on....if anything you are the racist moron who is caught up in race in every thread.....as for your other assertion, all I said was that protesters get arrested all the time..its normal..but that most are arrested for petty offenses..you guys act lie murder is being committed at these protests...
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you keep calling me a racist...if you haven't got anything else to say then leave me alone and move on....if anything you are the racist moron who is caught up in race in every thread.....as for your other assertion, all I said was that protesters get arrested all the time..its normal..but that most are arrested for petty offenses..you guys act lie murder is being committed at these protests...
ok so how many tea partiers got arrested for these "petty offenses" as you seem to think it happens all the time ::)
sorry hoss youre a racist and what makes it great is you constantly complain about racism...HAHAHA i mean thats epic shit bro
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ok so how many tea partiers got arrested for these "petty offenses" as you seem to think it happens all the time ::)
sorry hoss youre a racist and what makes it great is you constantly complain about racism...HAHAHA i mean thats epic shit bro
first of all I never said that lots of people are arrested at tea party events..as a matte of fact I've said arrests DON'T happen a lot at those events due to the large elderly population....however you can't deny that arrests happen at many protests...actually thats usually the aim of protesters...to get arrested in mass numbers and overwhelm the justice system.....many of these guys who are arrested are given a court appearance ticket and let go at the precinct....every one but you seems to know this....Once they show up in court it is brought down a violation and MAYBE they pay a fine buy usually its time served...if they did not do that they would be criminalizing protesting
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first of all I never said that lots of people are arrested at tea party events..as a matte of fact I've said arrests DON'T happen a lot at those events due to the large elderly population....however you can't deny that arrests happen at many protests...actually thats usually the aim of protesters...to get arrested in mass numbers and overwhelm the justice system.....many of these guys who are arrested are given a court appearance ticket and let go at the precinct....every one but you seems to know this....Once they show up in court it is brought down a violation and MAYBE they pay a fine buy usually its time served...if they did not do that they would be criminalizing protesting
LMFAO you and that dousch 240 were the one comparing them to the tea party. Dismissing the arrests, saying that there are arrests at all protests. Even saying that the OWS had about the same arrests as the tea party if we dont count the disorderly conduct arrests.
what a fucking moron you are....
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The arrest numbers are night and day. No comparison at all between these protesters and the Tea Party. Not in terms of arrests, message, focus, legitimacy, effect on election day, etc.
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LMFAO you and that dousch 240 were the one comparing them to the tea party. Dismissing the arrests, saying that there are arrests at all protests. Even saying that the OWS had about the same arrests as the tea party if we dont count the disorderly conduct arrests.
what a fucking moron you are....
obviously, communicating with you is a waste of time...lets agree wot disagree and move on...I have never seen you say that anyone but you is right about anything..get some critical thinking skills
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these protesters have been demonstrating for weeks on end with very few arrests relatively
disorderly conduct arrests don't count..that is merely a violation that all protesters get when they are arrested....how many arrests have there been for serious crimes???
Because "discon" is a catch-all phrase the police use when they arrest a protester...its a very discretionary offense that is usually dismissed in court for lack of evidence, or due to the police officer actually lying about the offense in order to get the person arrested on SOMETHING.....most prosecutors, judges, and even police supervisors know this and wink at it.....no one actually ever goes to jail for these offenses..they are simply let go at the precinct with a ticket
I know this answer won't satisfy you but its the facts
agreed...and it shows just how small in comparison the far-right really is when compared to OWS...as 240 said, OWS is a WORLD-WIDE phenomenon....my feeling is that MOST people are left of center in terms of mindset...not extreme far left or right
ohhhhh the gems this racist moron has given us in this thread alone.
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obviously, communicating with you is a waste of time...lets agree wot disagree and move on...I have never seen you say that anyone but you is right about anything..get some critical thinking skills
was that supposed to be a coherent thought?
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LMFAO whats stopping this girl from starting her own business and gaining wealth on her own?
"annihilation of the earth's treasures and the grinding down of the poor and marginal"
what a crock of shit dude...
"In the past three years, she has bicycled across the United States while making a documentary on climate change; squatted for two months in a London rowhouse; lived for six weeks without electricity on a foam-and-fiberglass island "
at least she is living the life i guess, the vast majority of these morons are walking contradictions. Ranting about big corporations while texting on their iphones, listening to bought music, and wearing shirts with corporation's logos on them and not even batting an eye at the hypocrisey.
sorry hoss, if you have a computer and are able to blog about random shit. You dont get to complain about being poor and marginalized...maybe you should have planned better.
Just so you know, homeless folks can buy a pre-paid cell phone for about $25. Laptop computers are available for a couple of hundred dollars. On the other hand, apartments in my city are fairly expensive. With all the foreclosures rental prices are actually up and rentals can be difficult to find. At least with a pre-paid cell phone, a prospective employer has a way to call you if want to hire you. One can usually plug in a laptop at any Starbucks or the many other Internet cafés so for the price of a cup of coffee, a street person can get on-line.
But more to the issue. The Occupy Wall Street (or where ever) people are not necessarily homeless folks. They are the 99%. They are the former middle class. They are the disenfranchised. They are anyone who is not in the top 1% economically.
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The arrest numbers are night and day. No comparison at all between these protesters and the Tea Party. Not in terms of arrests, message, focus, legitimacy, effect on election day, etc.
to be fair - the tea party did their thing, then went home. OWS is camping out, staying for weeks. There's going to be more conflict. You put thousands of tea party people in tents for weeks, it'd be the same thing.
Also, how are you able to measure the effects of OWS on election day? Do you have one of those cool telescopes that lets you see Nov 2012?
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to be fair - the tea party did their thing, then went home. OWS is camping out, staying for weeks. There's going to be more conflict. You put thousands of tea party people in tents for weeks, it'd be the same thing.
Also, how are you able to measure the effects of OWS on election day? Do you have one of those cool telescopes that lets you see Nov 2012?
That's not fair. That's absurd. The Tea Party wasn't dumb enough to go shouting in the streets about nothing, with a complete lack of focus, etc. They were not arrested. They didn't urinate and take a dump in public. They didn't stomp on the American flag. They didn't hold signs calling the U.S. a terrorist nation. They didn't trespass on private property. Pretty silly comparison.
I measured the effects of the Tea Party on election day because we just had an election last year and they were all over it. Obviously, these protesters, to the extent they are able to organize around a coherent message, which they have not been able to do, have not participated as an organized group. But the vast majority of them are of voting age and they certainly had very little impact in 2010, to the extent they even voted.
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Just so you know, homeless folks can buy a pre-paid cell phone for about $25. Laptop computers are available for a couple of hundred dollars. On the other hand, apartments in my city are fairly expensive. With all the foreclosures rental prices are actually up and rentals can be difficult to find. At least with a pre-paid cell phone, a prospective employer has a way to call you if want to hire you. One can usually plug in a laptop at any Starbucks or the many other Internet cafés so for the price of a cup of coffee, a street person can get on-line.
But more to the issue. The Occupy Wall Street (or where ever) people are not necessarily homeless folks. They are the 99%. They are the former middle class. They are the disenfranchised. They are anyone who is not in the top 1% economically.
if youre homeless there are shelters that will feed and help find work for you. sounds like a person you described has their priorities out of line...
homeless ppl dont need a cell phone or a lap top...again alot of these protestors are in the situations they are in b/c of bad choices THEY MADE!!!
whats stopping these individuals from becoming one of the top 1%?
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if youre homeless there are shelters that will feed and help find work for you. sounds like a person you described has their priorities out of line...
homeless ppl dont need a cell phone or a lap top...again alot of these protestors are in the situations they are in b/c of bad choices THEY MADE!!!
whats stopping these individuals from becoming one of the top 1%?
I don't know man... The phone thing I get... You have to have a phone to get interviews and what not, and most applications have to be done online, but you can go to a library and get that, so I don't think that a laptop is required, but I do think a cell phone may be.
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of course OWS will have more coverage...its a much bigger story....and its a worldwide phenomenon
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O
What college do you attend again? The Shitsville Institute?
A worldwide phenomenon? ::)
Oh brother. I would suggest you seek help, but I think the only help that will do you any good is diving head first off the nearest 10 story building.
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I don't know man... The phone thing I get... You have to have a phone to get interviews and what not, and most applications have to be done online, but you can go to a library and get that, so I don't think that a laptop is required, but I do think a cell phone may be.
I dont think either is required, I definitely see more of a need for a cell phone than a lap top thats for sure.
Like I said there are shelters that help place homeless ppl but I could see how having a cell phone would help in finding a job.
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http://tv.breitbart.com/occupydenver-thugs-knock-motorcycle-cop-to-ground
Can anyone tell me when this ever occured at a tea party rally?
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good point...good observation skills on your part
But it has to be the oldest trick in the book. And for me, there's something especially annoying about this particularly passive-aggressive excuse for 'reporting'.
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
What college do you attend again? The Shitsville Institute?
A worldwide phenomenon? ::)
Oh brother. I would suggest you seek help, but I think the only help that will do you any good is diving head first off the nearest 10 story building.
sigh..time for another owning..yes its a worldwide phenomenon....OWS protests are now going on in France, Israel, Spain, Germany, Chile, Britain and many other countries...Does that count as a worldwide phenomenon?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
You Goddamn idiot fuck.......MY OWNERSHIP OF YOU CONTINUES....
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sigh..time for another owning..yes its a worldwide phenomenon....OWS protests are now going on in France, Israel, Spain, Germany, Chile, Britain and many other countries...Does that count as a worldwide phenomenon?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
You Goddamn idiot fuck.......MY OWNERSHIP OF YOU CONTINUES....
The fact a relatively small number of people are engaging in "protests" in different countries doesn't make it a "worldwide phenomenon." We're not talking about a significant number of people. They're no more a worldwide phenomenon than Hari Krishnas.
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if youre homeless there are shelters that will feed and help find work for you. sounds like a person you described has their priorities out of line...
homeless ppl dont need a cell phone or a lap top...again alot of these protestors are in the situations they are in b/c of bad choices THEY MADE!!!
whats stopping these individuals from becoming one of the top 1%?
Firstly, the occupy wall street folks are not necessarily homeless. Not all are jobless either. In Portland, the labor unions marched with the occupy folks last week. If you think this movement is about homelessness or unemployment, you are mistaken. These are folks who are protesting against corporate bailouts and tax breaks for the very wealthy. They are people who realize that the middle class is vanishing. They are people who are underemployed, sometimes because corporations have moved manufacturing to third world countries. These are the 99%.
Your problem with these folks owning cell phones or laptops is misguided. I was asked to demonstrate last week with my union as they joined an occupy Portland event last Wednesday evening. Trust me, I am not homeless or unemployed. Well, I am unemployed because I am retired. However, I do have a substantial income. My wife and I have smart phones and a couple of fairly new computers. We are also part of the 99%.
I guess it makes some folks feel more comfortable if they believe the occupy folks are just a bunch of homeless losers. Well, hope you enjoy your delusions. If you really know how folks can be in the top 1%, you should market the idea and sell it....then you too might make the top 1%....or not.
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Fiend attacks 'Occupy' NYC protester in her tent(Women raped few weeks ago?)
NY Post ^ | 10/30/2011 | Kevin Fasick
Posted on October 30, 2011 7:20:08 PM EDT by GreaterSwiss
A sex fiend barged into a woman’s tent and sexually assaulted her at around 6 a.m., said protesters, who chased him from the park.
“Pervert! Pervert! Get the f--k out!” said vigilante Occupiers, who never bothered to call the cops. She said that weeks earlier another woman was raped.
“We don’t tell anyone,” she said. “We handle it internally. I said too much already.”
(Excerpt) Read more at www.nypost.com
Wow!!!!
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Moore: Occupy Movement Has "Shut Down Bulls**t Discussion" On Debt (VIDEO)
Real Clear Politics ^ | October 29, 2011 | Unknown
Posted on October 30, 2011 8:02:21 PM EDT by Third Person
Michael Moore tells the crowd at Occupy Oakland that is thrilled the movement has virtually killed all stories about the national debt and deficit. Telling by the crowd reaction, the Occupy camp seemed happy too. "We've already had a number of victories in our first six weeks, and let's acknowledge those victories," Moore, who considers himself a member of the 99% movement, told the crowd. Among claiming that the movement has "killed despair across the country," Moore also said he is grateful that the media coverage the occupiers have received has practically ended news reports about the debt and deficit. Transcript below: "There's something very important we've done. Six weeks ago what was the media talking about? All the politicians in Washington? All the pundits. What was the national discussion, that we weren't part of, that they determined. What were they talking about? The debt ceiling. The debt -- (in a mocking tone) "The debt ceiling. The deficit. We've gotta reduce the deficit. We've gotta reduce the deficit. "Over and over and over, all summer long. The debt ceiling. The deficit. The debt ceiling. The deficit. "Can I ask you honestly? When in the last time in the last few weeks you've heard them talking about the debt ceiling? Or the deficit? [audience reacts by clapping] "This movement has shut down that bullshit discussion."
What a collection of idiots.
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=32d_1320042510
Lmfao!!!!
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The fact a relatively small number of people are engaging in "protests" in different countries doesn't make it a "worldwide phenomenon." We're not talking about a significant number of people. They're no more a worldwide phenomenon than Hari Krishnas.
okay..thats your opinion...lets leave it at that..your opinion speaks for itself ::)
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okay..thats your opinion...lets leave it at that..your opinion speaks for itself ::)
Were you the woman raped in the tent or the homeless vagrant who committed the offense?
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>:(
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At Occupy Wall Street central, a rift is growing between east and west sides of the plaza
The New York Daily News ^ | October 30, 2011 | Harry Siegel
The Wall Street protesters determined to “Occupy Everything” now find themselves, in a sense, occupied.
Six weeks after a handful of activists took up residence in Zuccotti Park — the privately owned, publicly accessible plaza covering the block between Liberty St. and Cedar St. from north to south and Broadway and Trinity Pl. from east to west — the occupation has grown beyond all expectations, filling the park to near-bursting while becoming a national symbol of economic discontent and political frustration.
A few hundred occupiers sleep in the park on any given night; many hundred more come during the day to exchange ideas in the sort of public commons that had disappeared in the era of laptops and cell phones; hold and read signs; take in or add to the scene; or join the nightly General Assembly, the governing body of the movement that’s open to all comers and built on principles of participation and consensus.
“What we’re trying to build here,” said Jeff Smith, a member of the Occupy Wall Street press working group, “is a model for the bigger society we’d like to see.”
And there’s the rub: The “model” civilization that’s sprung up at Zuccotti is itself increasingly divided between the stakeholders in the nascent movement who feel invested in the emerging economic, social and cultural causes of “the 99%,” and hangers-on, including a fast-growing contingent of lawbreakers and lowlifes, many of whom seem to have come to Zuccotti in the last week with the cynical encouragement of the NYPD.
The dedicated participants’ stronghold is on the park’s east side, facing Broadway. The stragglers tend to cluster on the park’s west side, facing Cedar. The rift between them is growing. And two of OWS’s core values, generosity and inclusion, are being put to a crucial test.
Every protest scene or dissent park draws from a dark carnival element, and Zuccotti has had members of this group since the first week of its occupation. But the swelling ranks of freeloaders and disturbed characters in the last few days has pressed the working group members who’ve organized the protest and so far kept it from going off the rails to refine their ideas about just how open their movement should be.
Walking from east to west through the plaza, the stratification is stark, especially at night, when the gawkers and press have mostly cleared out. Inside the park, just past the General Assembly steps, are the library, the press and information tables, the legal table, sanitation and so on. Most of the working groups have been clustered at the east end of the park in order to share one of the few generators they had installed (the FDNY removed those generators Friday, ostensibly because they posed a fire hazard), and the space behind the tables has been the closest thing to a formal area, with only active participants behind them.
Most of the non-participants in turn pitched camp west of there, as far as possible from the workers. That dynamic reinforced itself, as occupiers nervous about their possessions and safety slept by their equipment and each other to the east, while the carnival crowd kept to the other side of Zuccotti.
It’s a fast drift from political theater and experiment into tarp and tent city, where sleepers block the walkways and the organization breaks down. The west-side anarchists are in 70s-punk costumes, and to the extent that they have discernible politics, many of them would be more fairly described as nihilists. At the Liberty-facing steps, where the much-discussed drummers are based, there’s a post-apocalyptic feel at night, with the spiritual meditation circle sharing space with a shady mélange of crusty punks, angry drunks, drug dealers and the city’s many varieties of park denizens.
The number of non-participants taking advantage of the resources that the activists have provided — free food, clothing, tarps and sleeping bags, hand-rolled smokes and even books, not to mention a sense of protection from the police, who have increasingly left the park to protect itself - has exploded over the past week, and is threatening to define the occupation itself and overshadow its political and social ambitions. Despite those resources, “spanging” (spare-changing, or panhandling) at Zuccotti has become commonplace, as have fights, near-fights and open-air drug sales.
“I mean you wouldn’t see somebody at the General Assembly smoking a joint,” said Smith, reflecting the frustrations shared by many working group members who have invested their time and energies in the occupation. “But in the back, they’re selling crystal meth.”
Ongoing efforts to change that dynamic by better distributing the working groups’ tables across the park have been frustrated by the limited number of generators they have to share and the unwillingness of many of the less-active occupiers to clear space for them. Members of the sanitation group say that more than 30% of the occupiers refuse to move their tents at all to accommodate the big weekly cleaning each Thursday. While the so-called Community Watch has significantly expanded in recent days, the sense of disorder has so far persisted, and concern has grown among the organizers, who understand that the scene in the park is — for the millions watching from afar — a symbol of their broader cultural and political ambitions.
The watch, though, has only powers of persuasion and pressure to try and enforce the rules, and no way to remove people from a public park. The police, whom many occupiers see as the enemy and who work under a mayor who’s made no secret of his distaste for the occupiers, have little reason to help them maintain order, and rarely seem to have entered the park over the last week for anything short of an assault. When officers have gone in, a wave of people carrying drugs (or with other reasons to fear arrest) moves away from them while others circle tightly around, cameras out. Even when organizers have requested their intervention, police enter to a mixed chorus of “brutality” and “pig” calls side by side with chanted reminders that “you are the 99%.”
But while officers may be in a no-win situation, at the mercy of orders carried on shifting political winds and locked into conflict with a so-far almost entirely non-violent protest movement eager to frame the force as a symbol of the oppressive system they’re fighting, the NYPD seems to have crossed a line in recent days, as the park has taken on a darker tone with unsteady and unstable types suddenly seeming to emerge from the woodwork. Two different drunks I spoke with last week told me they’d been encouraged to “take it to Zuccotti” by officers who’d found them drinking in other parks, and members of the community affairs working group related several similar stories they’d heard while talking with intoxicated or aggressive new arrivals.
The NYPD’s press office declined to comment on the record about any such policy, but it seems like a logical tactic from a Bloomberg administration that has done its best to make things difficult for the occupation — a way of using its openness against it.
“He’s got a right to express himself, you’ve got a right to express yourself,” I heard three cops repeat in recent days, using nearly identical language, when asked to intervene with troublemakers inside the park, including a clearly disturbed man screaming and singing wildly at 3 a.m. for the second straight night.
“The first time I’ve heard cops mention our First Amendment rights,” cracked one occupier after hearing a lieutenant read off of that apparent script.
“A lot of you people smell,” a waggish cop shot back later after an occupier asked if he might be able to help find more appropriate accommodations for a particularly pungent and out-of-sorts homeless man.
“The police are saying ‘it’s a free for all at Zuccotti so you can go there,’” said Daniel Zetah, a member of several working groups including community affairs. “Which makes our job harder and harder because the ratio is worse and worse.”
Organizers, who have already cut kitchen hours and taken other steps to discourage freeloading, are hoping that the winter cold will help clear out hangers-on and give the active participants time to consolidate their gains to date and refine their structures (including a bid to shift some power from the general assembly comprised of the semi-random group of people who show up on the Broadway steps each evening to the working group members who have invested time and effort in the occupation) to ensure the park maintains a high ratio of political participants to pilgrims drawn to a free-food, cop-free Eden.
“We’re in a limited physical space,” said Zetah, “and we’re past carrying capacity. By including these people we’re creating a space where other people, and particularly women, don’t feel safe — and by default you’re excluding them.”
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F'Ng Priceless
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Were you the woman raped in the tent or the homeless vagrant who committed the offense?
Were you?
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okay..thats your opinion...lets leave it at that..your opinion speaks for itself ::)
Yes, it does. :)
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..Occupy Wall Street Being Sabotaged by the New York Police Department
..By Mark Whittington
COMMENTARY | The New York Daily News suggests the New York Police Department is attempting to sabotage the Occupy Wall Street movement by directing homeless people to the Zuccotti Park site for free food and a safe place to drink.
If this is part of a policy to undermine Occupy Wall Street, it demonstrates someone in the NYPD or in Mayor Michael Bloomberg's office has the subtlety of a Machiavelli. It has had the effect of dividing Occupy Wall Street into warring factions, between a group of committed protestors and a group of free loaders.
Welcome to the problems of operating a welfare state, Occupy Wall Street.
The strategy also has the virtue of concentrating troublemakers into one place where they can be watched. If it also has the effect of making Occupy Wall Street more untenable, then so much the better.
It is not as if the Occupy Wall Street people are making it easier on themselves. Police are not welcome in Zuccotti Park and will not enter the area for anything short of assault. The so-called Security Committee does not have any power, save that of persuasion.
Undoubtedly the NYPD would prefer to remove Occupy Wall Street, with its burgeoning problems of sanitation, crime and now cold produced ailments the old fashion way. But lines of riot police with batons and plastic shields backed up by tear gas and water hoses are likely judged to be too raw for the video cameras to set into motion. The effectiveness of such a strategy has been called into question, in any case, because of the experience in Oakland, Calif.
The question arises, what is Occupy Wall Street prepared to do now? Whatever passes for an authority in Zuccotti Park seems incapable of maintaining order in a place that has rapidly devolved into a state of nature. But if the NYPD is invited in to roust out the vagrants and criminals from the area, it is likely all over. Police will be obliged to enforce all laws, and not just those against assault and rape. That includes drug laws as well as that part of the city code dealing with sanitation.
The Occupy Wall Street crowd may have pretensions of being like the army at Valley Forge, though the difference is that the Continental Army had discipline and a provost detachment to back that up.
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The Occupy Portland protest spilled out Monday from its encampment in Chapman and Lownsdale squares into Terry D. Schrunk Plaza, risking arrest for camping on federal property, and filmmaker Michael Moore stopped by the downtown demonstration in support: "You don't know how friggin' awesome this is!"
Standing in the bowl of Schrunk Plaza's amphitheater, where the protest holds its evening general assembly, Moore praised the Portland edition of the global political movement.
"I've been to many of the occupations across this country, New York, L.A., San Francisco, and this is by far the largest occupation I have seen," a laughing Moore said, and the crowd about several hundred people cheered.
For more: http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/10/occupy_portland_expands_to_sch.html (http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/10/occupy_portland_expands_to_sch.html)
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Oklahoma City police investigating unattended death at Occupy OKC encampment
Red Dirt Report ^ | October 31, 2011 | Andrew W. Griffin
OKLAHOMA CITY – A heavy police presence in Kerr Park Monday afternoon led Red Dirt Report to learn via a tipster that someone in a tent at the Kerr Park encampment of Occupy OKC had overdosed on a drug overnight.
Officer Kevin Barnes, the public information officer for the Oklahoma City Police Department told Red Dirt Report late Monday afternoon that “they got a call at 2:40 p.m. about an unattended death” in Kerr Park.
Barnes said that investigators are currently on the scene and that it “does not look suspicious.”
“I don’t see anything that makes it more than an unattended death,” added Barnes.
Barnes said he was not sure if the person who died was there as part of the Occupy OKC protest. We hope to have more information on this story very soon.
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These are folks who are protesting against corporate bailouts and tax breaks for the very wealthy. They are people who realize that the middle class is vanishing. They are people who are underemployed, sometimes because corporations have moved manufacturing to third world countries. These are the 99%.
I guess it makes some folks feel more comfortable if they believe the occupy folks are just a bunch of homeless losers.
I watched a lot of the coverage of the Boston version, and I saw very little in the way of a coherent argument describing what you stated above. It was a ton of yelling, drivel, and catchphrases.
When the were given the platform to articulate their argument, they were incapable. Was this due to my viewership being a small sample size. Possibly, but I'm not sold.
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These people are a fucking joke.
Everything they are complaining about has been dealt with by their messiah. If they are not happy with the outcome - they should protest obama and no one else.
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Bloomberg to OWS: Congress caused the mortgage crisis, not the banks
Hot Air ^ | November 1,2011 | ED MORRISSEY
Michael Bloomberg tried to explain that to Occupy Wall Street protesters this morning, and pointed out the contradiction between their protests and their demands:
“I hear your complaints,” Bloomberg said. “Some of them are totally unfounded. It was not the banks that created the mortgage crisis. It was, plain and simple, Congress who forced everybody to go and give mortgages to people who were on the cusp. Now, I’m not saying I’m sure that was terrible policy, because a lot of those people who got homes still have them and they wouldn’t gave gotten them without that.
“But they were the ones who pushed Fannie and Freddie to make a bunch of loans that were imprudent, if you will. They were the ones that pushed the banks to loan to everybody. And now we want to go vilify the banks because it’s one target, it’s easy to blame them and congress certainly isn’t going to blame themselves. At the same time, Congress is trying to pressure banks to loosen their lending standards to make more loans. This is exactly the same speech they criticized them for.”
Bloomberg went on to say it’s “cathartic” and “entertaining” to blame people, but the important thing now is to fix the problem.
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
LMAO - Bloomberg is sending the homeless and bums to Zucotti park now to cause chaos.
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Milk Street Cafe Owner Sacks 21 Employees As Consequence Of Occupy Wall Street Demonstration
November 1, 2011 5:09 PM
NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – The Occupy Wall Street movement, which says its goals include improving the economic lot for 99 percent of Americans, may have some explaining to do to some cafe workers now out of a job.
Mark Epstein, owner of the Milk Street Cafe at 40 Wall Street, just let 21 employees go.
The reason? The barricades police have set up throughout Wall Street as a consequence of the ongoing demonstration.
In June, he opened the New York branch of the Boston shop, which has a 30 year history. Epstein says he leased the space on Wall Street because it was next to a pedestrian plaza – and his was the only restaurant along that plaza.
“The opening was perfect,” Epstein told CBSNewYork.com. “The food was delicious, the customers were happy, and the line was out the door.”
Customers kept coming back, Epstein said.
“Everything was going in the right direction. Sales continued to grow. We started to build our catering business. Costs were going down. I felt that by October or November we would break even.”
Then the Occupy Wall Street movement launched.
“I came one Monday morning and I found the exit by the 2 or 3 subway station closed. I saw all these barriers – barricades – all up and down my street,” Epstein said. “At first I thought nothing of it, but after a week… it’s been six or seven weeks now.”
Six or seven weeks of marches and occasional clashes between police and protesters. So the barricades have remained in place.
“The end result of it is that it completely destroyed the pedestrian traffic on Wall Street. Completely destroyed it,” Epstein said. “It is a desolate, police-controlled area.”
The cafe has a capacity of 150 seats. At the height of lunch hour Tuesday, Epstein estimated the shop was half full. With those sorts of numbers, he’s had to let people go.
“We eliminated 21 positions in the company,” Epstein said. “First time in 30 years I’ve laid anybody off.”
They’ve also cut back their hours at the New York location, closing now at 3 p.m. instead of 9 p.m.
However, Epstein doesn’t lay all the blame at the feet of Occupy Wall Street.
“I think this is an issue of both Occupy Wall Street and the city officials. There’s protest and how you react to protest,” Epstein said. “If the barriers do not come down, I do not see how we can survive. This has got to become like America again. You have to be free to walk around.”
“Everybody should understand the consequences of their actions,” he said.
Epstein says he’s brought his plight to the attention of city officials and police and has been met with empathy. But the barriers are still in place.
“Everybody’s empathetic and they’ll have lots to say at my eulogy,” he said. “I don’t want to be eulogized. I want the barriers down.”
What do you make of Epstein’s story? Sound off in our comments section.
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Occupy ‘ball’ street
By LAURA ITALIANO, FRANK ROSARIO and BOB FREDERICKS
Last Updated: 10:39 AM, November 1, 2011
Posted: 12:26 AM, November 1, 2011
It’s the Autumn of Love!
Occupy Wall Street protesters are flocking to nearby health clinics for STD and HIV testing after getting their freak on in ’60s-style hookups with crusty strangers, sources told The Post yesterday.
“Last week was free love,” said a medical professional at a clinic located a short walk from Zuccotti Park, referring to the number of people who organizers have referred for sexually transmitted disease testing.
A volunteer at the park admitted concern among protesters about STDs.
PHOTOS: WALL STREET PROTESTS
“We give directions to clinics if people ask for information regarding STDs,” said the volunteer, who identified himself only as “Captain” and added that pregnancy tests are also a hot item.
“Like anything else, it happens. People ask, and we do the best we can for them.”
Volunteers at the medical tent hand out cash, usually $15 or $20, so the randy radicals can visit clinics that cater to a low-income clientele, the source said.
Experts said it’s the right thing to do.
“My advice for the protesters would be to practice safer sex. It’s a lot cheaper to buy a condom than get treated for an STD,” said Dr. Lisa Oldson, medical director of Chicago-based Analyte Health, which provides testing services for labs nationwide, including STD Test Express New York.
Also yesterday, a man who was punched in the head by a NYPD deputy inspector met with prosecutors to try to have the cop charged with misdemeanor assault.
“Nobody is claiming that this is the crime of the century, but what he did ... was assault,” said Ron Kuby, the lawyer for Felix Rivera-Pitre, who was hit by Deputy Inspector John Cardona in an incident caught on video.
Meanwhile, more than 100 protesters joined last night’s Halloween Parade in Greenwich Village, with several dressed as “corporate zombies.”
Additional reporting by Hannah Rappleye and Doug Auer
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VIDEO: Occupy Wall Street Supporter Compares Israel to Nazis
MRCTV (Media Research Center TV) ^ | 1/1/2011 | Joe S.
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2011 5:53:48 PM by blog.Eyeblast.tv
On October 21,2011 at Occupy Wall Street in Zuccotti Park, a protester told MRCTV that Israel are acting like Nazis during the Holocaust.
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Man arrested for sexual assault at Occupy Dallas camp
wfaa.com ^ | Nov 1 2011 | by STEVE STOLER
Posted on November 1, 2011 8:25:16 PM EDT by NoLibZone
DALLAS — Dallas police have arrested a man who allegedly sexually assaulted a minor at the Occupy Dallas campsite downtown.
Richard Armstrong, 24, was charged with sexual assault of child and failure to register as a sex offender.
Armstrong was identified as the man who police said had sex with a runaway from Garland. The alleged incident happened in a tent at one of the encampments on or before October 23.
Police received information that a 14-year-old runaway from Garland was at the camp. Police checked the area and found the girl. During an interview, she revealed that she had had sex with a man in a tent. Armstrong was identified as that man and arrested.
He was previous convicted of sexual assault in 2009 and was ordered to register. Court papers indicate he had sex with a 14-year-old girl at a party in Coppell.
Police said they are not seriously concerned about safety at the Occupy Dallas encampment.
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Deaf Man Raped At Occupy Wall Street, Protesters Don’t Report It To Police
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Q: You said a deaf guy was raped?
A: Yeah. . .
Q: Did the guy, I mean, do these, did that get reported to the police, or did that stay inside the camp?
A: Well, OK, I’m not sure for that particular incident. Yeah, no I — that might have stayed inside the camp.
Today, Big Government is releasing a video filmed yesterday in Zuccotti Park, featuring an activist who has been at the Occupy Wall Street protest since it began. The young woman, whom we believe to be an activist named Channing Kehoe, refers to part of Zuccotti Park as a “ghetto,” and discusses the prevalence of drug abuse, sexual assault, rape, and other violent crimes among the demonstrators:
“We’re trying to figure out what to do about [the drugs]. . . It’s putting all these people in danger — that, there’s sexual assault going on, we’re trying to deal with that. . . mostly drunk guys, going, groping girls, there was a guy that got raped, too, here — a deaf younger man. . .
She estimates there have been “at least ten” incidents of sexual assault, and affirms that Occupy Wall Street has been “unsafe for women” for the past three to four weeks.
#WINNING!
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Deaf Man Raped
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Rape seems to be one thing OWS does better than the Tea Party.
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And who got on me for my title of this thread?
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Rape seems to be one thing OWS does better than the Tea Party.
correct. the lack of little boys at tea party rallies kept the rape numbers down.
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correct. the lack of little boys at tea party rallies kept the rape numbers down.
of course, i will agree a 'deaf man' getting raped is some pretty fcked up stuff. I'd say it's time to open up the firehoses on Camp Sodomite.
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Protesters, Homeless Share Turf–and Tension (OWS marxists hate homeless people...)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 1/1/11 | TAMARA AUDI
Posted on November 1, 2011 8:49:55 PM EDT by jimbo123
When Alan Rieger, a 53-year-old homeless man living in downtown Los Angeles, saw tents pop up on the front lawn of city hall he left his usual spot on a nearby sidewalk and moved in with Occupy LA protesters.
"It's safer here," Mr. Rieger said. "When you're out on the streets anybody can stomp on your head."
Protesters gave Mr. Rieger and his friend, another homeless man, a tent and offered them food. And Mr. Rieger says he supports the protesters' message against corporate greed.
But some Occupy protesters have complained to police about the homeless, accusing them of theft, draining resources and causing fights. That has raised the ire of homeless advocates who say the homeless are being unfairly blamed and unevenly treated by protesters and police.
"There have been some pretty anti-homeless sentiments expressed by some of the organizers and some strong accusations made," said Becky Dennison, co-director of LA Community Action Network, a homeless advocacy group. "That's been a little bit disappointing."
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Zuccotti anarchy (OWS rape coverup scandal)
NY Post ^ | 11/1/11 | NY Post Editorial Board
Posted on November 1, 2011 9:02:19 PM EDT by jimbo123
Does rape now go unreported at Zuccotti Park -- and no one cares?
So it would seem.
The Post first reported -- weeks ago -- that women were being molested by members of the rag-tag Occupy Wall Street group holding court at the Zuccotti encampment. The response: Ho-hum.
Now comes news -- reported in The Post on Sunday -- that a woman was sexually assaulted at the site around 6 a.m. Saturday.
Other “Occupiers” scared off the assailant -- but nobody called the cops.
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Permit denied for Occupy Madison due to public masturbation
Examiner ^ | 11-1-11 | Timothy Whiteman
Posted on November 1, 2011 8:25:34 PM EDT by SJackson
But the Marxist branch of The Muslim Brotherhood passes muster...
The University of Wisconsin's Daily Cardinal campus newspaper reports that protesters have been denied a permit for a public demonstration "due to inappropriate behavior, such as public masturbation, from street protesters."
City officials have also stated that future permits will only be allowed if private restrooms are available for the protesters to engage in any anticipated masturbatory sign shaking.
As Madison Fire Prevention Officer Jerry McMullen stated, "You can't be affecting the safety and health of other people around you. With the public health violations and the complaints I've heard, I don't believe it meets the spirit of the ordinance to a street use permit."
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Bloomberg to OWS: Congress caused the mortgage crisis, not the banks
Hot Air ^ | November 1,2011 | ED MORRISSEY
Michael Bloomberg tried to explain that to Occupy Wall Street protesters this morning, and pointed out the contradiction between their protests and their demands:
“I hear your complaints,” Bloomberg said. “Some of them are totally unfounded. It was not the banks that created the mortgage crisis. It was, plain and simple, Congress who forced everybody to go and give mortgages to people who were on the cusp. Now, I’m not saying I’m sure that was terrible policy, because a lot of those people who got homes still have them and they wouldn’t gave gotten them without that.
“But they were the ones who pushed Fannie and Freddie to make a bunch of loans that were imprudent, if you will. They were the ones that pushed the banks to loan to everybody. And now we want to go vilify the banks because it’s one target, it’s easy to blame them and congress certainly isn’t going to blame themselves. At the same time, Congress is trying to pressure banks to loosen their lending standards to make more loans. This is exactly the same speech they criticized them for.”
Bloomberg went on to say it’s “cathartic” and “entertaining” to blame people, but the important thing now is to fix the problem.
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
LMAO - Bloomberg is sending the homeless and bums to Zucotti park now to cause chaos.
And just look at how the banks and the top executives have suffered as a result of government deregulation and the resulting irresponsible lending practices. Or look at how they have not suffered as a result of government bailouts.
Everyone is culpable; the banks, the high paid execs, and the folks who borrowed beyond their ability to repay their loans. However, not everyone has been equally hurt by this situation. The banks are doing fine....thanks to the bailouts. Most of the executives are doing better than fine....thanks to the bailouts. A shit-load of foreclosures would suggest that the stupid borrowers are not doing so fine. And we taxpayers are footing the cost of the bailouts....which isn't fine with me.
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And just look at how the banks and the top executives have suffered as a result of government deregulation and the resulting irresponsible lending practices. Or look at how they have not suffered as a result of government bailouts.
Everyone is culpable; the banks, the high paid execs, and the folks who borrowed beyond their ability to repay their loans. However, not everyone has been equally hurt by this situation. The banks are doing fine....thanks to the bailouts. Most of the executives are doing better than fine....thanks to the bailouts. A shit-load of foreclosures would suggest that the stupid borrowers are not doing so fine. And we taxpayers are footing the cost of the bailouts....which isn't fine with me.
I can agree with that, now tell me what protesting wall street is going to do to rectify it?
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I can agree with that, now tell me what protesting wall street is going to do to rectify it?
If you aren't protesting both these fat cats AND the government, you're just a shill.
There's a lot of blame to be passed around and if you can't see that it includes government AND wall street AND personal responsibility then you are part of the problem.
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Firstly, the occupy wall street folks are not necessarily homeless. Not all are jobless either. In Portland, the labor unions marched with the occupy folks last week. If you think this movement is about homelessness or unemployment, you are mistaken. These are folks who are protesting against corporate bailouts and tax breaks for the very wealthy. They are people who realize that the middle class is vanishing. They are people who are underemployed, sometimes because corporations have moved manufacturing to third world countries. These are the 99%.
Your problem with these folks owning cell phones or laptops is misguided. I was asked to demonstrate last week with my union as they joined an occupy Portland event last Wednesday evening. Trust me, I am not homeless or unemployed. Well, I am unemployed because I am retired. However, I do have a substantial income. My wife and I have smart phones and a couple of fairly new computers. We are also part of the 99%.
I guess it makes some folks feel more comfortable if they believe the occupy folks are just a bunch of homeless losers. Well, hope you enjoy your delusions. If you really know how folks can be in the top 1%, you should market the idea and sell it....then you too might make the top 1%....or not.
LOL i didnt bring up homelessness you did, I was just commenting on it...but thanks for playing.
whats the reason that companies ship jobs overseas prime? b/c its cheaper, so lets make it cheaper to keep the jobs here and guess what they will do? KEEP THE JOBS HERE!!!!
what part of that dont you understant?
I see so the only thing that is keeping these ppl from being in the 1% are ideas? well ideas are free mother fucker!!!
if you cant come up with a good enough idea to lift yourself to that level then what are you bitching about ppl who did making money and giving ppl jobs in the process?
seriously,
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When they start protesting at the doors of Bawney Fwank and Chris Dodd then I'll be inclined to believe that they've learned something.
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If you aren't protesting both these fat cats AND the government, you're just a shill.
There's a lot of blame to be passed around and if you can't see that it includes government AND wall street AND personal responsibility then you are part of the problem.
Agreed and Ill take it one step further...Protest wall street through government not the other way around. These morons some how feel that protesting the ppl who make the products they use and provide the services they use WHILE PROTESTING is somehow going to change things?
If I tell you I dont like the way you do business WHILE USING YOUR BUSINESS, thats counter productive!!!
If youre not willing to boycott their service or products then stfu already.
If these idiots and their supporters want to make a real difference they need to start camping out in washington and start protesting ppl they have influence over.
Instead these morons continue to support the very idiots that have put them in this situation. ::) just plain stupidity man
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LOL i didnt bring up homelessness you did, I was just commenting on it...but thanks for playing.
whats the reason that companies ship jobs overseas prime? b/c its cheaper, so lets make it cheaper to keep the jobs here and guess what they will do? KEEP THE JOBS HERE!!!!
what part of that dont you understant?
I see so the only thing that is keeping these ppl from being in the 1% are ideas? well ideas are free mother fucker!!!
if you cant come up with a good enough idea to lift yourself to that level then what are you bitching about ppl who did making money and giving ppl jobs in the process?seriously,
So you want to make it cheaper to produce in the US than in a third world country? How?
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So you want to make it cheaper to produce in the US than in a third world country? How?
you think china, taiwan, singapore etc are third world countries? LMFAO WOW!!!!
Lower the corp tax rate for starters, reduce idiotic regulation that does nothing but increase expenses for companies, provide tax breaks for companies that provide jobs, tarrifs on goods from certain countries etc.
There are many ways to do this, its not a perfect solution but if we sit here and do nothing were basically shitting in our hands and dreaming...sounds pretty famliar maybe thats what about meant by hope and change?
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you think china, taiwan, singapore etc are third world countries? LMFAO WOW!!!!
Lower the corp tax rate for starters, reduce idiotic regulation that does nothing but increase expenses for companies, provide tax breaks for companies that provide jobs, tarrifs on goods from certain countries etc.
There are many ways to do this, its not a perfect solution but if we sit here and do nothing were basically shitting in our hands and dreaming...sounds pretty famliar maybe thats what about meant by hope and change?
They are third world when it comes down to human rights, pay etc..
I like the idea with breaks for compagnies that provide jobs.
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They are third world when it comes down to human rights, pay etc..
I like the idea with breaks for compagnies that provide jobs.
These morons need to protest obama. every single thing they are complaining about Obama has done something on.
This is why this "movement" is a sham.
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These morons need to protest obama. every single thing they are complaining about Obama has done something on.
This is why this "movement" is a sham.
They should join up with the Tea Party and make some noice in DC i agree
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They should join up with the Tea Party and make some noice in DC i agree
Again - they passed Dodd Frank correct? Where were these protestors then while the rest of us were screaming?
They passed ObamaCare - where werer they then?
They passed the take over of the govt of school loans - where we they then?
They passed the stim bill giving away billions to cronies - where were they then?
They passed AIG Bailout - where were they then?
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Again - they passed Dodd Frank correct? Where were these protestors then while the rest of us were screaming?
They passed ObamaCare - where werer they then?
They passed the take over of the govt of school loans - where we they then?
They passed the stim bill giving away billions to cronies - where were they then?
They passed AIG Bailout - where were they then?
No idea im not a protester go ask them
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No idea im not a protester go ask them
I'm just saying - these people act like the last three years, nothing was done on these issues.
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I'm just saying - these people act like the last three years, nothing was done on these issues.
You mean like when the Tea Party started their protest shortly after Obama came in office and was quiet during Bush's term? ;)
Trolling aside you have a point
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You mean like when the Tea Party started their protest shortly after Obama came in office and was quiet during Bush's term? ;)
Trolling aside you have a point
Tea Party started during Bush admn during TARP.
Tea Party people were active during Bush admn and killed the Meyers SC nomination, Dubai ports, amensty for the invaders, etc.
it was the commie c u n t pofs Pelosi who rammed TARP through.
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Tea Party started during Bush admn during TARP.
Tea Party people were active during Bush admn and killed the Meyers SC nomination, Dubai ports, amensty for the invaders, etc.
it was the commie c u n t pofs Pelosi who rammed TARP through.
Pelosi and Reid...It itches in my brain when i hear those names
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Pelosi and Reid...It itches in my brain when i hear those names
Remember - TARP 1 failed in the House because GOPers revolted. it was only after Pelosi on the second chance flipped a few that it went through.
TARP 2 is the product of Bush/pelosi/Reid/Geithner/Paulson/Obama
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Remember - TARP 1 failed in the House because GOPers revolted. it was only after Pelosi on the second chance flipped a few that it went through.
TARP 2 is the product of Bush/pelosi/Reid/Geithner/Paulson/Obama
Yup no argument there
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Occupy Baltimore: alleged rape victim demands city close Occupy Baltimre down (video)
Fox Baltimore ^ | Monday, October 31 2011, 11:08 PM EDT | Fox Baltimore
http://www.foxbaltimore.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wbff_vid_10213.shtml
Many say the Inner Harbor is becoming dangerous as the "Occupy Baltimore" crowd grows restless.
Our cameras caught evidence of drug use at their campsite.
One woman says she was raped over the weekend and no one from the group tried to help her.
Now, the woman who once stood in solidarity with the group wants Baltimore officials to break up the crowd, like other cities have.
IS THIS WHAT YOU FUCKING IDIOTS SUPPORT?
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Remember - TARP 1 failed in the House because GOPers revolted. it was only after Pelosi on the second chance flipped a few that it went through.
who threatened the GOP members with martial law? pelosi or Bush?
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who threatened the GOP members with martial law? pelosi or Bush?
Neither. It was paulson after begging pelosi to get the troops in line.
Stop for kneepadding moron - I know the facts of what wernt down more than you do.
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Neither. It was paulson after begging pelosi to get the troops in line.
Stop for kneepadding moron - I know the facts of what wernt down more than you do.
a republican president approved the bill after threatening repiublican congressmen with martial law.
i can accept dems do what dems do - shitbag socialist policy. all standard, i'm used to that.
but bush and teh repubs approved 3 trillion in bailouts BEFORE tarp, remember? TA posted it a few months back and it was sobering. When you compare their presidencies, that 787 billion that obama put out really wasn't as bad as bush's many smaller bailouts on a per-company or per-industry basis.
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a republican president approved the bill after threatening repiublican congressmen with martial law.
i can accept dems do what dems do - shitbag socialist policy. all standard, i'm used to that.
but bush and teh repubs approved 3 trillion in bailouts BEFORE tarp, remember? TA posted it a few months back and it was sobering. When you compare their presidencies, that 787 billion that obama put out really wasn't as bad as bush's many smaller bailouts on a per-company or per-industry basis.
No - Bush/Reid/Pelosi rammed Tarp through.
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No - Bush/Reid/Pelosi rammed Tarp through.
how many of the new YES votes the second time around were dem, and how many were republican? ;)
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how many of the new YES votes the second time around were dem, and how many were republican? ;)
Not arguing that and I agree that the few who flipped should be hung, but it originally failed in the house.
It was after Paulson went to pelosi and she went strong arming for votes that the few flipped.
Not saying it wasd ok, it wasnt, but fucking please - your "black jesus" flew in to DC to support TARP remember?
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Not arguing that and I agree that the few who flipped should be hung, but it originally failed in the house.
It was after Paulson went to pelosi and she went strong arming for votes that the few flipped.
Not saying it wasd ok, it wasnt, but fucking please - your "black jesus" flew in to DC to support TARP remember?
we expect obama and dems to be bags of shit.
let's be honest, we expected it from bush as well. 3 trillion in bailouts during his presidency? so few threads about it then.
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Occupy Boston protester charged with selling Xanax to undercover police officers
The Boston Globe ^ | November 2, 2011 | Jaime Lutz
In a move that infuriated some Occupy Boston protesters, Boston police on Tuesday arrested an Occupy Boston protester after she allegedly sold $20 worth of prescription drugs to undercover police.
Martina “Mama” Martin was taken into custody near the tent that supplies clothes to the protesters, who have been living in a tent city in Dewey Square since last month. In a report, police said they had seen an increase in illegal drug activity in the downtown area, which they attributed to the arrival of the Occupy Boston encampment.
Acting on a tip that a man and woman inside the group’s clothes tent were selling Xanax illegally, undercover officers successfully bought 10 Xanax pills for $20 from Martin, who shared a group hug with undercover officers after the transaction and told them to call her “Mama.’’
Martin did not struggle with police, but as officers took her into custody, her fellow protesters angrily surrounded the officers while shouting obscenities at them. Police called in reinforcements, but the tensions eventually subsided between protesters and police.
Police tried to recover the marked money they allegedly paid to Martin, but were unable to locate it, according to the report. Martin was scheduled to be arraigned today on charges of distributing Class C drugs and possession with intent to distribute within 100 feet of the Rose Kennedy Fitzgerald Greenway.
Police said in the report that the pills were prescribed to Martin, dispensed by a pharmacist on Oct. 31....
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FAIL!!!!!
GROUP HUG - WWWHHHAAAAA!! ! !
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we expect obama and dems to be bags of shit.
let's be honest, we expected it from bush as well. 3 trillion in bailouts during his presidency? so few threads about it then.
bump
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At least 4,000 are at the gates to the Port of Oakland. Occupy Oakland: General Strike
The Silicon Valley Mercury News ^ | November 2, 2011 | Kristin J. Bender, Cecily Burt and Sean Maher
Posted on November 2, 2011 9:06:00 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
OAKLAND -- Protesters have effectively shut down maritime operations at the Port, Director Omar Benjamin said at a media briefing Tuesday, as more than 4,000 people are at the gates.
The crowd stretched several blocks down Middle Harbor Road leading into the port as they begin their attempt to shut down the port for start of the 7 p.m. night shift.
Benjamin pledged that normal port operations would resume, however, and asked protesters to give workers safe passage to their homes.
As they walked the one mile from 14th Street and Broadway, the crowd fanned out for a least a mile, climbed on trucks and chanted. "Whose city is it? Our city!" Police cars are parked on side streets but are keeping a low profile. The march is peaceful so far and no injuries have been reported.
The action is part of the Wednesday general strike, the first one in Oakland since 1946, which was launched to shut down the city for the day in a rally cry against corporate greed, widespread unemployment and wage inequality.
Meanwhile at Whole Foods at 27th and Bay streets, a splinter group wearing all-black and face masks threw paintballs, left graffiti, tore up a fence and broke a window before the larger crowd turned on them and forced them to stop. There were about 75 people inside the store at the time. No injuries were reported.
A man who witnessed the attack but declined to give his name said he was buying an organic orange when the crowd arrived....
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Union Chief Leo Gerard: 'Resistance Movement' Needed to Seize Bridges, Banks in Case OWS Fails
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2011/11/02/union-chief-leo-gerard-resistance-movement-needed-seize-bridges-banks- ^
Posted on November 2, 2011 9:30:12 PM EDT by chessplayer
United Steelworkers international president Leo Gerard has a message to the flea party whiny-whiners still camping out instead of sleeping in their parents' basements -- playtime is over.
Just in case the Occupy movement fails -- in other words, when it fails -- Gerard is urging union members to fill that gaping void with "more militancy."
"And no wonder people are occupying. We oughta be doing more than occupying parks. We oughta start occupying bridges. We start oughta occupying the banks places themselves."
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Live from Occupy Oakland: Window smashing, vandalism, and more
Michelle Malkin ^ | Nov 2, 2011 | Michelle Malkin
Posted on November 2, 2011 7:13:44 PM EDT by markomalley
I’m starting a fresh thread on tonight’s Occupy Oakland “strike.” (Previous post and background here.)
They’ve welcomed the Black Panthers and Communist revolutionary thug Angela Davis, and are currently marching to the Port of Oakland.
Various sympathizers and observers are tweeting live. Mother Jones reports that the Oakland Whole Foods store — after being falsely accused of threatening to punish workers who walked out on the job today — has been vandalized.
One person on scene writes: “Straight into window breaking and street furniture smashing at whole foods. #generalstrike #occupyoaklandwindow breaking and street furniture smashing at whole foods.”
Whole Foods is defending itself online. To no avail.
A big mob dressed in black is roaming around the streets. They’ve sprayed graffiti on the walls of businesses.
Wells Fargo windows have also been reportedly smashed.
Chase Bank vandalized.
Maybe the city enablers will use federal stimulus money to clean it up.
Overheard on livestream: Occupier sneers: “They can afford new windows.”
East Bay Express reports that approximately 75 shoppers were barricaded inside the Whole Foods as protesters threw rocks and smashed the windows.
Livestream here.
I’ll keep you posted as they head to the port.
Fuck these commies. Time to get the water hoses and German shepherds out on these vermin.
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Occupy Oakland Protestor Reportedly Killed While Blocking Road
Twitter
Posted on November 2, 2011 11:35:54 PM EDT by furquhart
All over #OccupyOakland right now, not fully confirmed.
Apparently attempting to block the road - angry driver hit the protestors.
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^^^
If this is true and darwin were still alive then he would be using this as a perfect example.
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we expect obama and dems to be bags of shit.
let's be honest, we expected it from bush as well. 3 trillion in bailouts during his presidency? so few threads about it then.
3 trillion bailouts during Bush? If this is true damn...
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3 trillion bailouts during Bush? If this is true damn...
true adonis posted it a few months back, and it was crickets from repubs. 20 billion here, 50 billion here. He did it his entire presidency but it wasn't that huge of news. Obama did it all at once, which gave repubs a huge number to point at, but wasn't all that diff from what bush did.
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Occupy Rally Shuts Down Shipping Port Indefinitely (OWS destroying jobs they pretend to want)
npr ^ | 11/3/2011 | ap
Occupy Wall Street protesters declared victory after thousands of demonstrators shut down one of the nation's busiest shipping ports late Wednesday, escalating a movement whose tactics had largely been limited to marches, rallies and tent encampments since it began in September.
As a voice over a bullhorn said "The night is not over, yet," protest organizers told demonstrators to head back to the downtown plaza where the Oakland movement has been based for more than a month. The Occupy encampment across the street from City Hall also was the scene of intense clashes with authorities last week.
The nearly 5-hour protest at the Port of Oakland, the nation's fifth-busiest shipping port, was intended to highlight a daylong "general strike" in the city, which prompted solidarity rallies in New York, Los Angeles and other cities across the nation.
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Riot police fire projectiles, arrest dozens of Occupy Oakland protesters
November 3, 2011 | 3:42 am 16258
Riot police from a number of Bay Area departments fired tear gas and other projectiles and arrested dozens of demonstrators early Thursday to break up Occupy Oakland protests that had drawn thousands of participants.
Officers moved in near the protesters' City Hall encampment, where tents resprouted after officials last week ordered them razed. The police action came after a predominantly peaceful day of protest that attracted more than 7,000 people.
The evening appeared to be winding down peacefully when protesters declared victory at the Port of Oakland at 9 p.m. Wednesday -- after authorities confirmed that a shift of officers scheduled to start work at 7 p.m. had been canceled. But as demonstrators massed again at the City Hall plaza, the situation devolved.
PHOTOS: Occupy Oakland
Demonstrators managed to gain entry to an empty building that had housed the Traveler's Aid Society, a nonprofit organization that assists the homeless but had suffered funding cuts. Leaflets indicated that protesters had targeted the building for "reuse." They branded it a new "community center" in Twitter feeds. Video from a local ABC affiliate's helicopter showed jubilant crowds flowing in and out of the building, where a banner marked "Occupy Everything" hung. Others built a barricade nearby, presumably to discourage police.
Shortly before midnight, local media reported that police officers from various agencies were suiting up in riot gear. Some demonstrators set the barricade aflame. Firefighters doused it. A police statement later said protesters had hurled rocks, explosives, bottles and flaming objects at officers.
A live video from a man who called himself #OakFoSho on Twitter, beamed to thousands of viewers into the early hours Thursday, showed Alameda County sheriff's deputies and Concord police officers among those authorities who surrounded the crowd on Broadway near Telegraph Avenue. Despite several volleys of tear gas, demonstrators boisterously played guitars and violins and sang classic songs such as Tennessee Ernie Ford's "Sixteen Tons" and Johnny Cash's "Folsom Prison Blues."
At 1:14 a.m., however, a loud explosion could be heard on the video coming from the encampment. Oakland police, who had maintained a low profile all night, lined the plaza. Groggy people in tents could be heard telling police to go deal with troublemakers instead. One protester was hit in the leg with some kind of projectile. Video showed him running, then standing doubled over, whimpering in pain, as others from the encampment rushed to help him.
"You just fired on and injured an unarmed person," one man could be heard yelling.
The Oakland Tribune reported that the man was taken away in an ambulance after fellow demonstrators repeatedly asked for help.
By 1:48 a.m., officers on Broadway could be heard issuing a dispersal order. It was unclear whether police would attempt to clear the plaza or were just trying to clear demonstrators who were in the streets.
At 2 a.m., demonstrators called on one another to "remain nonviolent." They chanted, "We are Scott Olsen," in reference to the Iraq War veteran who was injured by a police projectile last week. Images of that police action, which came in response to demonstrators about 12 hours after the camp was razed, were beamed around the world. Police maintain that they were defending themselves against some in the crowd who threw bottles, rocks and other objects, but criticism was widespread that nonviolent demonstrators had been caught up in the assault.
Wednesday's action drew more than 7,000 people, including teachers, youths, seniors, union members and other citizens who said they were concerned about economic inequality. At an evening briefing, interim Oakland Police Chief Howard Jordan said officials believed that only about 60 or 70 of them -- black-garbed with kerchiefs covering their faces -- were believed to be committing acts of vandalism. Throughout Wednesday, members of the crowd had attempted to redirect and dissuade those self-described anarchists. When they broke windows and defaced several banks with graffiti, some Occupy Oakland protesters returned to scrub the walls of a Wells Fargo bank branch. Another placed a sign on the shattered window of a Chase bank branch that read, "We are better than this."
Some on the plaza said a small faction of demonstrators may have broken into a coffee shop, earning the ire of others in the movement.
Mayor Jean Quan, who had been criticized by demonstrators after last week's police action, allowed them to reestablish their camp. She then earned the ire of a number of police officers and some of Oakland's business community. She and Jordan had said Wednesday that police would maintain a minimal presence but were prepared to move in if property or safety was compromised.
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Occupy Oakland General Strike Shuts Down Port; Anarchists ‘Bent On Creating Problems’
November 2, 2011 11:52 PM
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/11/02/general-strike-protesters-shut-down-port-of-oakland
General Strike, Oakland, Occupy Oakland, Occupy Wall Street, Port of Oakland, Protests OAKLAND (CBS
SF) — Many Occupy Oakland protesters Wednesday evening returned to Frank Ogawa Plaza after demonstrating at the Port of Oakland, forcing the Port to shut down operations.
Port officials said Wednesday night’s protest was peaceful and no injuries or property damage were reported.
Port Executive Director Omar Benjamin said maritime operations will only resume “when it is safe and secure to do so.”
Ben Bruso, 23, a direct service provider for developmentally disabled individuals, was one of hundreds who blocked the Port’s Gate One, where the demonstration has a party-like feel, complete with a brass band.
Bruso said he was there because he wants to get rid of lobbying in government.
“Our government is being bought by corporations,” said Bruso, a Service Employees International Union member, who came to the march of his own accord.
“The middle class and lower class are being subjugated,” he said.
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On the closure of the Port, Bruso said, “Obviously it sends a message to the corporate world that we’re not going to sit by and take it anymore.”
Colin Holtzinger, 24, a mental health counselor, said he was at the Port because he believes “we need to tax the rich and get rid of the barriers of entry to small businesses.”
Holtzinger also said, “I feel great. This is the largest movement I’ve seen in my lifetime.”
A group of several hundred demonstrators gathered to block entrances to the Port at Maritime and Seventh streets.
KCBS Team Coverage Of Occupy Oakland General Strike:
Occupy Oakland Protest Continues At Port
“I support the Occupy movement and the 99 percent. The priorities of this country need to be re-examined and re-ordered,” said Marti Mogensen, 63, a teacher at Berkeley High School.
Mogensen was formerly a teacher in the small town of Onalaska, Wis., the town where Scott Olsen, is from—Olsen is a former marine who was injured in last week’s demonstration.
“I think his case is interesting because it’s done a lot to move Occupy Oakland into international attention. I really think it’s tragic,” she said.
She said some of the teachers at Berkeley High School did “teach-ins” Wednesday to support the general strike.
On closing the Port, Mogrensen said, “I think it really shows that people want change and they want to organize and these tactics do work.”
Jessica Hendricks, 27, a chair of the Berkeley chapter of the ACLU, said, “I’m here exercising my freedom of speech and making sure the rest can do so peacefully.”
On closing the Port she said, “I think it shows the strength and power of the people.”
The group at Maritime and Seventh streets had blocked trucks from entering and exiting the Port all night and the numbers appear to be growing.
Trucks that tried to exit with cargo were forced to turn around. However, drivers who attempted to leave without cargo are allowed to pass.
One big-rig driver who was trapped by the crowd Wednesday night said, “I just wanna go home. Why are they on top of my truck?”
Though there have been rumors of police action, there was minimal police presence by the Port’s gates as of 7:30 p.m.
Oakland emergency officials responded to a report of a vehicle that struck a pedestrian Wednesday near 11th Street and Broadway, where protesters continue to march.
Further information regarding extent of injuries and what caused the crash was not immediately available.
Oakland police Chief Howard Jordan said that he believes a small group of anarchists is responsible for vandalism that struck five businesses in Oakland Wednesday.
The vandalism occurred at a Whole Foods store and several banks, he said.
Jordan said the police believe about 4,500 people participated in the general strike Wednesday. He said most protesters were peaceful but that about 60 to 70 anarchists, who he said “were bent on creating problems,” caused the vandalism.
He said the anarchists dressed distinctively and wore all-black clothing and handkerchiefs.
Jordan said police believe they know who those responsible are, but no one has been arrested so far.
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Occupy protests go from peace to "chaos" (Post of Oakland "effectively shut down.")
CBS News / The Associated Press ^ | November 3, 2011
(VIDEO AT LINK)
OAKLAND, Calif. - A protest that shut down the Port of Oakland to show the broadening reach of the Occupy Wall Street movement ended in violence when police in riot gear arrested dozens of protesters overnight who broke into a vacant building, shattered downtown windows, sprayed graffiti and set blazes along the way.
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Protesters also threw concrete chunks, metal pipes, lit roman candles and molotov cocktails, police said....
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Alleged Occupy Baltimore Rape Victim Says Activists Refused to Help
The Blaze ^ | 2011-11-01 | Buck Sexton
The Wall Street Occupiers have become embroiled in a slew of sexual assault allegations in recent weeks, and now Baltimore joins the list of cities with Occupations that have resulted in rape charges.
In an interview with Fox Baltimore, a distraught woman who had previously joined the Occupiers claimed she was raped and robbed Friday night at the Occupy Baltimore’s waterfront campsite.
She made it clear that none of the Occupiers came to her aid or tried to help her identify her attacker afterwards. The unidentified woman also told reporters that she couldn’t go home because her attacker had taken her bills and knew where she lived.
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1) she's an irrational fvck for not having a pistol to execute the rapist once he committed a forcible felony... and sleeping in an unsecure, unpoliced outdoor encampment surrounded by bums and whiners.
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ACORN Officials Scramble, Firing Workers and Shredding Documents, After Exposed as Players
Fox News ^ | November 3, 2011 | Jana Winter
Complete title: ACORN Officials Scramble, Firing Workers and Shredding Documents, After Exposed as Players Behind Occupy Wall Street Protests
Officials with the revamped ACORN office in New York -- operating as New York Communities for Change -- have fired staff, shredded reams of documents and told workers to blame disgruntled ex-employees for leaking information in an effort to explain away a FoxNews.com report last week on the group’s involvement in Occupy Wall Street protests, according to sources.
NYCC also is installing surveillance cameras and recording devices at its Brooklyn offices, removing or packing away supplies bearing the name ACORN and handing out photos of Fox News staff with a stern warning not to talk to the media, the sources said.
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“‘That’s the story that we’re sticking to,’” Westin said, according to the source.
The source said staffers at the meeting contested Westin’s denial:
“It was pretty funny. Jonathan told staff they don’t pay for protesters, but the people in the meeting who work there objected and said, ‘Wait, you pay us to go to the protests every day?’ Then Jonathan said ‘No, but that’s your job,’ and staffers were like, ‘Yeah, our job is to protest,’ and Westin said, ‘No your job is to fight for economic and social justice. We just send you to protest.’
“Staff said, ‘Yes, you pay us to carry signs.’ Then Jonathan says, ‘That’s your job.’ It went on like that back and forth for a while.”
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Mayor Bloomberg blasts Occupy Wall Street protesters for not reporting crimes to cops
New York Daily News ^ | Thursday, November 3 2011 | Jonathan Lemire & Erin Einhorn
Mayor Bloomberg said by Occupy Wall Street protesters not reporting crimes in Zuccotti Park, they were “allowing the criminal to strike again.” Mayor Bloomberg ripped into Occupy Wall Street protesters on Thursday for not reporting crimes at Zuccotti Park - calling their inaction "despicable."
Bloomberg said the demonstrators have a practice of surrounding a troublemaker and then evicting them from the park instead of calling the NYPD.
"If this is in fact happening - and it's very hard to get good information - it is despicable," the infuriated mayor said. "I think it is outrageous and it really allows the criminal to strike again making all of us less safe."
A Brooklyn man was charged Wednesday night for groping an 18-year-old protestor - and he has also been linked to a rape case in the Zuccotti Park.
But instead of calling the cops, the protesters allegedly encircled the suspect - Tonye Ilketubosin, 26 - and kicked him out of their encampment, Bloomberg said.
The mayor called the demonstrators' brand of vigilante justice "disturbing" and flared his temper when asked if he was "very" concerned about the practice.
"'Very' understates it," Hizzoner said. "It is a very high priority. We have an obligation to protect everybody in the city."
PHOTOS: OCCUPY WALL STREET GOES GLOBAL
The mayor's fury was unleashed a day after he warned Wall Street protesters that the city may "take actions" due to quality-of-life complaints from their downtown neighbors.
Bloomberg did not elaborate as to what his breaking point might be - and stressed that the protesters had a right to express themselves. He also insisted, however, that the rights of those who live and work near Zuccotti Park also had to be protected.
Hundreds of police barricades that blocked off the streets near the park - including Wall St. itself - were removed Wednesday after local merchants complained to local lawmakers.
But many of the steel fences were put back in place hours later when the demonstrators began to march through the neighborhood.
Bloomberg and Zuccotti Park owners Brookfield Partners backed off a previous plan to remove the protesters from the site in order to give it a thorough cleaning.
But the mayor said that Brookfield was "very concerned" about recent developments in the park.
"They are clearly worried about their liability and we are dealing with them all the time," he said.
There have been several documented gropings and assaults in the park since the protests began in September, but officials believe many more were never reported to police.
The city's 311 system has also logged 345 complaints against demonstrators - 65 of which were noise complaints.
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'Occupy Wall Street' Protesters Force Cafe Layoffs as Business Drops
Fox Business News ^ | 11/03/2011
They want to change the economy, and now they have -- by putting people out of work.
Twenty-one employees of a once-thriving cafe and catering business were fired because the weeks-long "Occupy Wall Street" protest chased away too many customers.
“I support their freedom of speech but the whole thing is hypocritical if it makes people lose their jobs,” said Shamil Cepeda, who was one of those laid off.
Cepeda, 23, added, "If [the protesters] would just go get a real job, helping real people, that would help a lot more than just taking up space and shouting at people and putting others they claim to care for out of work."
Her former boss, Milk Street Cafe owner Marc Epstein, said he had no choice but to slash staff after "Occupy Wall Street" caused his business to plummet 30 percent -- and warned he may have to shut down soon.
“We laid off people Friday," Epstein said. "We had a staff of about 100. It’s sad, it’s just so sad.”
The protests, Epstein added, have turned parts of once-bustling Wall Street into a ghost town.
“Wall Street, which is a beautiful pedestrian mall, has for the last six weeks become totally desolate," he said. "People aren’t walking here anymore.”
“The food industry does not have anybody in the one percent, workers or owners,” Epstein, who has no love for the protesters, added.
But he also pointed a finger at the NYPD and City Hall, which he said had ignored his pleas for help.
“I’m saying to all of them, understand the consequences of your actions. As a result of you guys making these decisions, a small business that just invested in your city is threatened, as well as all of the jobs here,” he said.
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Mercedes hits 2 Occupy Oakland protesters
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fc%2Fa%2F2011%2F11%2F02%2FBA5G1LQ06S.DTL ^ | 11/3/2011 | Matthai Kuruvila, Demian Bulwa,Kevin Fagan
(11-02) 23:05 PDT OAKLAND -- A car struck two Occupy Oakland protesters tonight as they marched with a crowd along Broadway, and an angry mob surrounded the car as emergency workers tended to the injured.
The driver, who was not identified, sat in his silver Mercedes-Benz sedan after the 7:30 p.m. incident while hundreds of people screamed at him through his closed windows.
BART police officers who were guarding nearby transit stations responded, questioned the driver and several witnesses, then let the driver leave the scene at 11th Street and Broadway in his car.
The two people who were hit, a man and a woman, suffered leg and ankle injuries that were not life-threatening, said BART Police Deputy Chief Daniel Hartwig. They were taken to Highland Hospital.
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lol @ the irony of a rich preson in a mercedes running down an OWS protester on the street!
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Unions Busing In Wall Street Occupiers For Protest Outside Treasury Department To Push For “Robin Hood Tax”
(The Hill) — Pivoting off the Occupy Wall Street movement, unions are planning coordinated protests Thursday for a financial transactions tax.
Organizers estimate more than 1,500 union members from more than 20 labor groups, including the AFL-CIO, the American Federation of County, State and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) and the Communications Workers of America (CWA), will be outside the Treasury Department Thursday to call for what has become known as the “Robin Hood Tax.”
Occupy Wall Street protesters also are being bused in from New York by National Nurses United (NNU) — yet another example of the evolving relationship between labor and the protesters that have targeted the financial sector.
Karen Higgins, co-president of the NNU, told The Hill that instituting a financial transactions tax could help fund social programs that are under threat.
“This is actually the first step to do something concrete and beneficial and not harm others by taking money out of social programs that help people survive,” Higgins said. “It is only reasonable that Wall Street contributes its fair share.”
The protest outside Treasury will be one of many planned for Thursday.
Union members, including AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, will be in Cannes, France, to call for the tax at the opening of the G-20 Summit that will be attended by President Obama and other world leaders.
http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/191383-unions-occupy-wall-street-to-protest-for-robin-hood-tax#.TrKoc2dJ9hc.twitter
How about a tax on the extra money the taxpayer has to front to pay union wages for any federal construction project?
Fuck the unions.
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Developer with shotgun scared off Oakland rioters
Henry K. Lee, Chronicle Staff Writer
Thursday, November 3, 2011
More... (11-03) 14:46 PDT OAKLAND -- Oakland developer Phil Tagami is used to working behind the scenes to broker some of the biggest deals in town. Late Wednesday, he was using different persuasive skills - holding a loaded shotgun to scare away rioters trying to get into a downtown building.
"We had people who were attempted to break into our building," the landmark Rotunda Building on Frank Ogawa Plaza outside City Hall, Tagami said today. He grabbed a shotgun that he usually keeps at home, went down to the ground floor and "discouraged them," he said.
No police were in sight, he said.
"Basically, people were pushing to get through the door," he said. "I was standing there and they saw me there, and I lifted it - I didn't point it - I just held it in my hands. And I just racked it, and they ran."
Although they didn't get inside the building - Tagami, 46, oversaw its $50 million renovation and has an office there - vandals did scrawl graffiti on the outside walls during the post-midnight riot that broke out after Occupy Oakland's daylong general strike.
The Rotunda Building was far from the only target. Graffiti was spray-painted on many buildings along Broadway from 14th to 16th streets. Masked vandals shattered windows, started fires and threw objects at police, including lit flares and powerful M-1000 firecrackers.
Officers responded by firing tear gas and flash-bang grenades and arresting at least 80 people on suspicion of remaining at the scene of a riot. One was arrested on suspicion of felony vandalism after an officer spotted the protester breaking a window, police said.
Another protester, Eric Benard, 37, was arrested on suspicion of obstructing police, battery on a police officer and assault causing great bodily injury.
Five civilians were hurt along with three police officers, one of whom was bitten by a protester, said interim Police Chief Howard Jordan. About 400 officers from 14 law-enforcement agencies took part in the overnight action, he said.
As the sun rose, downtown Oakland business owners were again assessing the damage, much as they did after a series of protests related to the killing of unarmed BART rider Oscar Grant in 2009.
Crews were boarding up broken windows at the Tully's Coffee shop just steps from Frank Ogawa Plaza at 14th and Broadway, center of the nearly monthlong Occupy Oakland movement. Graffiti was sprayed on the Rite Aid and Walgreens drugstores across from each other at 14th and Broadway.
Vandals also scrawled messages and broke windows at the Oakland Police Department's internal affairs and recruiting office on the plaza.
"All cops are bastards," one message read.
The smell of cleaning chemicals was everywhere.
City Administrator Deanna Santana apologized to business owners for the "chaotic events" that have enveloped the city.
Mayor Jean Quan called the rioters "a small and isolated group."
"It shouldn't mar the overall impact of the demonstration and the fact that people in the 99 percent movement demonstrated peacefully and, for the most part, were productive and very peaceful."
Tagami disagreed, calling the Occupy Oakland encampment "basically concealment and cover for anarchists who are doing this to our city."
"We're very concerned that a group of people can be allowed to do this type of destruction to our town and to our image without any repercussions," Tagami said. "They need to be held accountable."
He rejected assertions that the anarchists were a small minority, saying, "No, you can't have it both ways."
Tagami said he had been working late at the Rotunda Building on Wednesday when he and the janitorial staff were essentially locked inside because of the unrest. He had brought his shotgun from home because he knew he'd be working late, as he does most nights.
"I support a peaceful protest," he said. "But it was a siege situation last night, and quite frankly, I'm glad we were here. But I never want to have to do that again."
Other businesses that professed support for Occupy Oakland's general strike didn't escape the damage.
At the Men's Wearhouse, which had closed Wednesday and put up signs in support of the strike, windows were shattered. A box nearby read, "Cop uniform surrender box." No police uniforms were inside.
Many Occupy Oakland sympathizers were dismayed by the damage, and some tried to do something about it today.
Leandro Marques, 33, and two women were scrubbing graffiti at noontime from the facade of Genji, a Japanese restaurant in the City Hall plaza.
"I'm not happy with the way a few people are trying to take the movement," said Marques, an auto engineer who lives in Berkeley. "People were so excited with what was happening yesterday. People should have gone to sleep and regained their energy."
He added, "Doing things to small businesses is about the worst thing you can do. You're hurting people who are poor like you."
Rachel Konte, owner of Oakllectiv, said her designer clothing shop had its plate glass window smashed and hundreds of dollars of T-shirts stolen.
"Someone texted us at 3 a.m. and said our store was being vandalized," Konte said. "Some protesters guarded our store for us. We're so thankful and grateful for that. It could have been devastating."
She said, "We're still committed to Oakland. I don't know who vandalized us, but I bet they don't live here. This is a wonderful community and we're definitely staying."
Chronicle staff writers Carolyn Jones and Demian Bulwa contributed to this report.
E-mail Henry K. Lee at hlee@sfchronicle.com.
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Good for him. Too bad he didnt take out a bunch of these communist zombies.
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Exactly why the European-style riots will never happen here. People will shoot these cocksuckers before they let them they destroy their hard-earned property.
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Kitchen Volunteer's Sex Assault Arrest Shocks Zuccotti Park [ Occupy Wall Street ]
The Atlantic Wire ^ | By Adam Martin
Posted on November 3, 2011 8:29:56 PM EDT by NoLibZone
The Occupy Wall Street encampment in Zuccotti Park has had to deal with its share of undesirable behavior, from uncooperative drummers to a drug-related arrest, but Wednesday saw the most serious criminal allegations yet, as a volunteer in the encampment's kitchen has been arrested for sexual assault and rape.
The 26-year-old volunteer, a Crown Heights man named Tonye Iketubosin, was known in the kitchen as Tonye Parks, one cooking colleague told Gothamist. "He was a genuinely nice guy...he came to get shit done," kitchen volunteer Beau Sibbing told the news blog. But after two different women reported he had raped one and groped another, his fellow volunteers told him to leave.
Before his arrest, Iketubosin denied he assaulted either of his 18-year-old accusers, Sibbing said. He "was adamant that it wasn't him." One woman told police she had gotten into an argument with her tent-mate at 6 a.m. Saturday, and had met Iketubosin when she left. "He offered to let her sleep in his tent, saying he had to go work in the park’s makeshift kitchen," The Wall Street Journal reported. "The alleged victim took Iketubosin up on his offer and went to sleep. But she said she soon awoke to find Iketubosin removing her pants, the [unnamed law enforcement] official said. She told police she asked him to stop, but he didn’t comply. Then he raped her, the official said."
The other woman says Iketubosin helped her set up her tent on the evening of Oct. 24, then snuck in early the next morning and groped her until she pushed him away.
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Wow!!! Sounds like the tea party!
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numbers boy how is your GOP candidate Cain doing with those sexual harassment accusations? Why not just let the woman speak? The man is finished and is a filthy liar like most republicans.
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numbers boy how is your GOP candidate Cain doing with those sexual harassment accusations? Why not just let the woman speak? The man is finished and is a filthy liar like most republicans.
LMFAO! My boy is RP, but Cain is getting accused of saying something stupid, these rapists at OWS are the face of these leftist movement.
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LMFAO! My boy is RP, but Cain is getting accused of saying something stupid, these rapists at OWS are the face of these leftist movement.
hahah out of thousands of people you pick a few people out who are criminals, it would happen with any large gathering of people, I am sure there were criminals at the Tea party rallies as well, you walk by criminals each day and not notice it, you are just trying to throw out a red herring to distract people from the real issues at hand.
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One Day After Supporting OWS, Men's Wearhouse in Oakland Vandalized by Protesters
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It's a simple lesson in appeasement that the world learned in the 1930s. When there are radicals that are demanding ludicrous things based on erroneous facts, you do not give in. This is something that the Men's Wearhouse in Oakland did not learn.
Yesterday they put up this sign in their window:
And today, that very window was smashed in by protesters
Is it any surprise that a bunch of hoodlums calling for the end of capitalism would bust in a window of a business? I don't think so.
Maybe Men's Wearhouse will learn from this lesson. But I can't guarantee it.
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Lmfao!!!! Don't feed the animals moron!
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hahah out of thousands of people you pick a few people out who are criminals, it would happen with any large gathering of people, I am sure there were criminals at the Tea party rallies as well, you walk by criminals each day and not notice it, you are just trying to throw out a red herring to distract people from the real issues at hand.
Show me the arrests at tea party rallies.
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Show me the arrests at tea party rallies.
There wasn't as much focus put on them because they were looked at as idiots and most of them where complete idiots and not a threat. No one really took a hard look at who was actually there, since Occupy Wall Street movement is such a threat to the Republicans they pay people to go out and try and discredit the movement because they are afraid of losing their jobs to a Democrat in the next election.
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There wasn't as much focus put on them because they were looked at as idiots and most of them where complete idiots and not a threat. No one really took a hard look at who was actually there, since Occupy Wall Street movement is such a threat to the Republicans they pay people to go out and try and discredit the movement because they are afraid of losing their jobs to a Democrat in the next election.
LMFAO!!!!
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Developer holds off Occupy Oakland crooks with shotgun
Oakland Tribune ^ | 11-3-2011 | Matthias Gafni
Posted on November 3, 2011 9:49:59 PM EDT by Calif Conservative
About eight men and women dressed in black, faces covered in bandannas and armed with hammers, sticks and poles had just barged down the doors of Oakland's landmark Rotunda Building -- with another dozen behind them -- when they were turned back by a tenant with a shotgun and an attitude. This was Oakland developer and building owner Phil Tagami who provided a one-man sentry for the downtown building he renovated for $50 million. "They took a few steps forward and I racked the shotgun and they left," Tagami said Thursday. The group high-tailed back out through the front doors. The Oakland native estimated hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage, from broken windows to vandalism to destroyed property. "We were under siege last night," he said. Tagami brought his shotgun from home to work -- just in case. About 10:30 p.m., as the situation deteriorated outside, he told the janitorial staff to leave the first floor, and pulled the security guard from his desk. Tagami phoned the mayor's office and voiced concerns to senior staff around 10:45 p.m. Police were nowhere in sight. About 11 p.m., a group of protesters forced the glass front doors partially open. Tagami brandished his shotgun. He insists he did not point the gun at anyone, just positioned it in front of him and cocked it. After the group left, Tagami continued checking in with the mayor's office and at 12:14 a.m., the assistant city manager phoned to tell him the police were moving in. It was too little, too late, Tagami said. "This is an illegal occupation and it has had misintended consequences," he said. "They are aiding and abetting the provocateurs and anarchists who have been terrorizing the downtown. "We need to give (the police) the tools and support to fix that."
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Occupy Oakland: Mayor Quan maintaining hands-off position on protesters
Mercury News ^ | 11/3/11 | Cecily Burt - Oakland Tribune
Posted on November 3, 2011 9:49:33 PM EDT by NormsRevenge
OAKLAND -- After a massive and mostly peaceful demonstration against large corporations Wednesday eroded into late night clashes with police and 80 arrests, people on both sides of the fence were in damage control mode, with Occupy Oakland organizers and city officials trying to figure out what to do next.
And in a press briefing Thursday afternoon, it appears that as far as Mayor Jean Quan is concerned the city will maintain its hands-off status quo. She blamed the destruction on a small group and said the larger Occupy group was not the problem.
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She also said that because of what happened, many in the Occupy group were finally willing to communicate with her and city staff.
"The people in the plaza are saying enough is enough, it's gone too far," Quan said. "(What happened after midnight) doesn't make me happy, but we're going to assess the situation day by day, and make sure we have a resolution that's safe for people.
"Last night I was happy, for the first time, people in the plaza started communicating with us ... they said 'we're not part of what's happening over there.' We advised them to stay separate and not let the provocateurs get into the camp."
The Occupy Oakland camp also met to rehash the night's events. During a three-hour meeting Thursday morning the group reached an anti-vandalism consensus that sought to separate the main movement from those who smashed property, lit fires and attacked police. But rather than apologize outright, the group decided to tell the damaged businesses that they were sorry and offer to help.
"It's not about anarchists versus liberals, it's about (expletives) versus Occupy Oakland," said the meeting facilitator.
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numbers guy you really do know how to entertain yourself, no one is engaging you in this thread lol.
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numbers guy you really do know how to entertain yourself, no one is engaging you in this thread lol.
You just did, dipshit.
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lol
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lol
When these morons protest at the white house I will listen.
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http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/11/deranged-wall-st-occupier-goes-on-rampage.php
Wow! Freak show. Getting ugly.
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Occupy Wall Street builds tent as 'safe house' to protect female protesters
NY Daily News ^ | 11/4/2011 | BY Rich Schapiro , Kerry Wills & Henrick Karoliszn
Posted on November 5, 2011 10:37:55 AM EDT by tobyhill
Spurred by a spate of sex attacks in Zuccotti Park, Occupy Wall Street protesters built a “safe house” for women on Friday.
The 16-square-foot military frame tent is designed to shelter up to 30 women from the predators lurking around the lower Manhattan encampment.
“It will be used to protect ourselves from people out there,” said Nan Terrie, 17, a protester from East Oakland Park, Fla. “I’m sick and tired of women getting taken advantage of, raped and murdered.
“We need to take charge. We can make it happen without men telling us what to do,” said Terrie, who heads a protester subcommittee called Strong Women Rules.
Terrie said the tent, erected along the southern edge of the park near Cedar St., will be outfitted with bunk beds, drawers and a welcome table. A second tent will house a computer.
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Lmfao!!!!
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Occupy Portland - Outbreak of Lice
YouTube ^ | 11/05/2011 | Youtube
Posted on November 6, 2011 8:00:49 PM EST by RobertClark
Occupy Portland made an announcement during their general assembly that there is apparently and outbreak of head lice and body lice.
And....
The "Honeybucket" port a potty company has advised the OWS encampment that they will be removing the port a potties on Monday due to constant vandalism. The union that is paying for the plastic crap o lets begged the company to leave them through the weekend, but is unwilling to pay the increased rates the company is demanding to deal with the destruction. An OWS announcement flier detailing this is detailed in the 3 minute video - quite an amusing read.
Also uploaded on 11/5 is a video detailing the trash and filth at this encampment - it should be visible in the related video section to the right of the page at link. It offers a great "on the street" video documentary of the filth that these deprivates are creating.
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OWS protest in Denver
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Posted on November 6, 2011 7:54:40 PM EST
An image of the "protest" at Denver.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-111105-ows-denver-2-3.photoblog900.jpg
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Wow!!!
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they don't matter.
yet so many repub politicians, pundits, and getbiggers are worried about them.
how many weeks have they been going now? Yall sending those provacateurs into the place to start riots yet?
Sucks that such a leaderless movement is still going. irrelevant yet they occupy the rights' mind.
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Deadbeat Congressman Spends Time With Constituents For First Time In Months
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Deadbeat Congressman Spends Time With Constituents For First Time In Months
November 3, 2011 | ISSUE 47
WATERLOO, IA—Saying it was one of the few times the elected official had opted to show his face in the area all year, disheartened constituents of Iowa's 1st Congressional District confirmed that, during a charity event Wednesday, deadbeat U.S. Rep. Bruce Braley (D-IA) had finally decided to spend some actual quality time with them.
Enlarge ImageConstituents say Braley has barely been home to his district at all in the past year.
According to constituents, Braley has hardly been a part of their lives at all since he entered office in 2007, choosing instead to spend most of his time in Washington or "God knows where else," and only occasionally returning home for short, obligatory visits during holidays or around campaign season when he needs a favor.
"Time and time again [Braley has] told us he'd always be there to provide for us, but then whenever we need him most—surprise, surprise—he's not here," said constituent Ellen Deaver, adding that Braley "waltzed into town [Tuesday] like he'd never left" and offered no apology for his prolonged absence. "And when he does come around, he makes all these promises about how things are going to get better and how we mean everything to him, but then he splits again. Meanwhile, the roads and bridges he's been swearing he'll fix for months are still a mess, and he's way overdue on that stimulus money he told us he'd send."
"I want to believe he can change, I really do," Deaver added. "But part of me is starting to think he never will."
Saying the absentee lawmaker's consistent unreliability had left them feeling "emotionally drained," constituents told reporters Braley's appearance this week could never make up for the dozens of instances in which they attempted to contact him directly only to be told he was tied up in committee, or for his failure last August to show up to the 4-H fair at the National Cattle Congress even though he knew it was important to them.
Locals also claimed to be disappointed with Braley's habit of making promises he likely never intended to keep, such as his pledges to create more jobs in the Quad City area, improve public schools, and write home more often. In addition, many said they were "fed up" with Braley selfishly blowing money on things the district doesn't need and spending more time with lobbyists in Washington than he does "with his own damn constituency."
"Look, I'm not going to pretend it isn't nice having him around when he's here—it is," said Davenport-area mechanic Rick Ordower. "He's so charming and likable that it feels really nice simply being near him, but you see what he's doing, right? He's just trying to make us forget he's a total narcissist, and like idiots we fall for it. And it hurts, damn it. It hurts real bad."
"I just want to feel like we mean something to him," added Ordower, his eyes welling up with tears. "Like we're really his district."
Many 1st District voters attending the charity event told reporters that, while they had not forgiven him, Braley actually did, to his credit, seem "truly sincere" this time about his commitment to the region, going so far as to tell them his heart would "always be in northeastern Iowa," and saying, "You all have a very special place in my heart," before concluding his remarks.
At press time, a number of locals admitted they were taken aback when a "very warm" Braley looked them directly in the eye and shook their hand, a gesture one constituent claimed "might have seemed meaningless" had the lawmaker not also made a convincing and touching personal assurance to them that "help is on the way" for the district's unemployed and that he would work "tirelessly" for them.
Braley also reportedly said he would be back for Thanksgiving.
"I know he's let us down in the past, but I have to say that despite everything, I could honestly see it in his eyes this time that he really meant it," said smiling constituent Tom Dettman, waving at Braley as the congressman entered a car headed for the airport. "This was not the same old Bruce."
"He said he might get us funding for a zoo, too," Dettman added. "Can you believe it? Our own zoo!
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Remains Of Ancient Race Of Job Creators Found In Rust Belt
WASHINGTON—A team of leading archaeologists announced Monday they had uncovered the remains of an ancient job-creating race that, at the peak of its civilization, may have provided occupations for hundreds of thousands of humans in the American Northeast and Midwest.
According to researchers, these long- forgotten people once flourished between western New York state and Illinois, erecting highly distinctive steel and brick structures wherever they went, including many buildings thought to have held hundreds of paid workers at a time.
"It's truly fascinating—after spending a certain number of hours performing assigned tasks, the so-called 'employees' at such facilities would receive monetary compensation that allowed them to support themselves and their families," said archaeologist Alan H. Mueller, citing old ledgers and time-keeping devices unearthed at excavation sites in the region. "In fact, this practice seems to have been the norm for their culture, which consisted of advanced tool users capable of exploiting their skills to produce highly valued goods and services."
"It's a complex and intriguing set of rituals we're still trying to fully understand," Mueller added. "But it appears as if their entire society was centered around creating, out of thin air, actual jobs that paid an actual living wage."
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http://patdollard.com/2011/11/occupydc-pushes-grandma-down-stairs
240 - do you defend this? Video of woman being shoved down stairs by these communist thugs.
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Greece's prime minister to quit in deal to salvage bailout package
Athens, Greece (CNN) -- Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou will step down as his government's leader, the country's president announced Sunday night -- agreeing to do so on the condition that the controversial 130 billion euro bailout deal is approved.
The announcement follows a meeting on Sunday in which Papandreou and Antonis Samaras -- the leader of the New Democracy party, Greece's leading opposition party -- agreed to form a new government.
The two will meet again Monday to discuss who will become the nation's next prime minister as well as who will serve in the new government, according to the statement from President Karolos Papoulias.
No more details or a timeline of future events were disclosed, beyond that new national elections will be held sometime after the bailout is implemented. Earlier Sunday, Samaras told reporters that once Papandreou resigns everything will "take its course" and "everything else is negotiable."
The move appears to close one chapter in Greece's tumultuous political and economic saga, as Papandreou had become a lightning rod for critics for his leadership of the south European nation as it tackles a prolonged financial crisis.
It also paves the way for passage of the agreement that he negotiated October 26 with European leaders. That deal wipes out 100 billion euros in Greek debt (half of what it owes) and a promise of 30 billion euros to help the public sector pare its debts, making the whole package worth a total of 130 billion euros ($178 billion).
But Greece's turmoil is far from over. The bailout -- the second that it has received from the European Union and International Monetary Fund -- would be accompanied by additional austerity measures such as slashing government jobs, privatizing some businesses and reducing pensions. It also comes at a time when Greece's economy, and to some extent the global economy, is still staggering.
Though Greece ranks 32nd in terms of gross domestic product, experts say that it wields a disproportionate influence internationally. Economists fret that a Greek default on its debt could drag down larger European economies, in particular those of Italy and Spain, as well as struggling Portugal and Ireland.
That is why world markets were on edge Sunday, awaiting some resolution of the domestic political battle. European leaders have said they want Greece to be one of the 17 nations that use the euro, though they've also said saving the common currency is more important.
Eurozone finance ministers are scheduled to meet Monday in Brussels.
Within Greece, the bailout's passage would be a significant victory for Papandreou. He has insisted repeatedly in recent weeks that it needs to be approved -- signaling that he'd be willing to exit as prime minister, a job he has held since 2009, as long as that happens.
Earlier Sunday, Greece's president met ahead of a Cabinet meeting with all party leaders -- including Papandreou, who heads the socialist PASOK party, and Samaras.
"I can sense the agony of the Greek people," Samaras said before the meeting. "Everybody has to act responsibly now and send a message of stability abroad to the people of Europe and the people of our country too."
"I agree completely with your words," Papoulias said. "We should give an end to this sense of insecurity and instability. We should give answers to the questions: where are we going and what are we doing? We are all responsible for that."
Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos is likely to remain in his post as finance minister in a new government, sources told Greek television. Candidates for the prime minister's job include Petros Moliviatis and Loukas Papaimos, according to Greek television.
The new government will have a life of four months, according to Greek television, citing sources, and elections will be held in early spring.
On Monday -- in addition to a meeting between Papandreou and Samaras -- the Greek president will hold another meeting open to heads of all Greece's political parties.
CNN's Diana Magnay, Jim Boulden and Andrew Carey in Athens and Matthew Chance and Hada Messia in Rome contributed to this report.
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"Occupy DC" Violently Raids Tea Party's "Defending the American Dream Summit"...many injured
Occupy DC protesters violently injured peaceful Tea Party go-ers (some elderly) and attemped to force entry into the Washington Convention Center on Friday (Nov 4, 2011), where Americans for Prosperity is hosting their "Defending the American Dream Summit." The protesters also formed roadblocks, surrounding the convention center and only allowing non-luxury cars to pass. Parents with their children were caught in the violence. Some injured... Auto/pedestrian accidents occured as Occupy protestors rushed into the streets hurling profanities at drivers and attempting to block drivers' paths. This has to stop...
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http://patdollard.com/2011/11/occupydc-pushes-grandma-down-stairs
240 - do you defend this? Video of woman being shoved down stairs by these communist thugs.
what the hell do you think? Do I defend a woman being pushed down stairs? Do you even listen to yourself? No wonder people are willing to vote obama just to spite right-wing zealouts like yourself haha.
of course i do not endorse pushing women down stairs. These "people" doing it belong in prison for a decade for their deeds. this is common sense and certianly not something that I should have to explain to you.
There are bad people that will make their way into every movement IN HISTORY. There was 1% of the tea party crowds who were racist assholes. Just like there are 1% of the Occupy crowds that are commie nazis who push women down stairs.
It's childish ignorance to pretend any movement in history has not had bad elements make their way into a crowd of peaceful people and make trouble. Hell, we have a republican governor on tape admitting he considered inciting violence in a peaceful crowd because he disagreed with their message, member?
so really... this 'irrelevant' movement seems to completely own the minds of you, repub house members, and talking pundits like Beck. I know, you have some magical statistical power to determine that 5 communists in a crowd of 10,000 makes it a communist movement. Very strane you didn't apply that silly math when it was a few bad apples in the tea party crowd.
Stop drinking dude :)
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BOSTON (CBS) – Three people arrested Thursday night inside the Occupy Boston camp have been charged with dealing crack cocaine.
WBZ NewsRadio 1030’s Carl Stevens, who spent the night at the camp a few weeks ago, talked to a man who spends most nights at Occupy Boston. He said things have gone downhill.
“Things have changed drastically. It seems to be deteriorating,” the man told Carl. “A lot of drug use, alcohol use, people getting into fights… It’s deteriorating pretty quick.”
WBZ NewsRadio 1030′s Carl Stevens reports
There’s a growing concern among police that people getting out of prison are coming here for the free food and shelter.
Mayor Menino’s sentiment reflects that concern.
“They have a message that’s not a clear message. The problem we have today is that we have different groups infiltrating the people who have the message. We have anarchists who are part of the group. We have homeless individuals who are part of the group,” Menino told WBZ NewsRadio 1030.
Carl Stevens’ report on conditions the homeless are dealing with at Occupy Boston
Mayor Menino says the people in Dewey Square need to think about leaving.
“I just wish that the group that’s demonstrating, not just here in Boston but nationally, will look to where the problems really are,” he said. “The problems are down in Washington. And nobody’s even addressing those issues of what Washington has done to our economy, to job training, to housing, to education. They’re directing their anger at the wrong location.”
In the meantime, police say they are aware of the situation at Occupy Boston and they are monitoring it.
Carl Stevens’ extended report on politics and frustration within Occupy Boston
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Well, 3 people in a crowd of 10,000 were selling drugs.
It's safe to say that we have 9,997 crack cocaine abusers on our hands here. Break out the firehoses.
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Well, 3 people in a crowd of 10,000 were selling drugs.
It's safe to say that we have 9,997 crack cocaine abusers on our hands here. Break out the firehoses.
How many tea party people were busted for crack dealing at beck rally?
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Well, 3 people in a crowd of 10,000 were selling drugs.
It's safe to say that we have 9,997 crack cocaine abusers on our hands here. Break out the firehoses.
Why do you keep adding thousands to the size of these protests? Do you think it gives your lies more weight? There isn't anywhere close to 1,000 people camping out at Occupy Boston (more like a few hundred, if that) and here you are claiming 10,000. Just like you were claiming "millions" last week.
Why are you such a lying rat?
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How many tea party people were busted for crack dealing at beck rally?
1) Terrible comparison. OWS Boston has been going for how many weeks, 24/7? And you had 3 drug dealers make their way down to it?
Do you compare things like that in real life? Do you compare baseball HR stats with the price of iceberg lettuce?
2) Again, terrible comparison dude.
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1) Terrible comparison. OWS Boston has been going for how many weeks, 24/7? And you had 3 drug dealers make their way down to it?
Do you compare things like that in real life? Do you compare baseball HR stats with the price of iceberg lettuce?
2) Again, terrible comparison dude.
ok - how many tea party total have been convicted of crack dealing overall?
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Junkie overdosed and died at Occupy: Vancouver.
LOL! Tea Party! ::)
It's funny how 240 has taken up the MSM warcry to paint this movement as being similar to the Tea Party. This is what happens when you spend the bulk of your day watching MSNBC.
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Why do you keep adding thousands to the size of these protests? Do you think it gives your lies more weight? There isn't anywhere close to 1,000 people camping out at Occupy Boston (more like a few hundred, if that) and here you are claiming 10,000. Just like you were claiming "millions" last week.
Why are you such a lying rat?
so we have 3 drug dealers entering a camp of a few hundred and being arrested. Were the drug dealers camping there?
I mean, I can walk into a McD and try to sell drugs - does this mean McD is the new drug den?
I'm pretty impressed that the Occupy boston people were so fast to point out the drug dealers to authorities so that they could be removed from the legal protests.
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so we have 3 drug dealers entering a camp of a few hundred and being arrested. Were the drug dealers camping there?
I mean, I can walk into a McD and try to sell drugs - does this mean McD is the new drug den?
I'm pretty impressed that the Occupy boston people were so fast to point out the drug dealers to authorities so that they could be removed from the legal protests.
What about the sexual assaulters at OWS ?
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so we have 3 drug dealers entering a camp of a few hundred and being arrested. Were the drug dealers camping there?
I mean, I can walk into a McD and try to sell drugs - does this mean McD is the new drug den?
I'm pretty impressed that the Occupy boston people were so fast to point out the drug dealers to authorities so that they could be removed from the legal protests.
333 has posted a seemingly endless list of stories about junkies, racists, rapists and so on; each story a separate incident. There is not a single report of any of these things happening at a Tea Party rally.
Give it a rest, weasel.
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Junkie overdosed and died at Occupy: Vancouver.
LOL! Tea Party! ::)
It's funny how 240 has taken up the MSM warcry to paint this movement as being similar to the Tea Party. This is what happens when you spend the bulk of your day watching MSNBC.
i criticized mathews and hardball several times for their trying to paint the tea party movement as racist.
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Woman dies at Occupy Vancouver site
VANCOUVER — A woman at the Occupy Vancouver camp died Saturday after being discovered in an "unresponsive" condition, police say. A Canadian protest organizer said it appeared to be due to a drug overdose.
The cause of death has not been determined but there is no evidence to indicate foul play, police said.
The woman in her 20s was found in a tent by another protester. Paramedics took her to a hospital where she was pronounced dead, Vancouver police said in a statement.
Lauren Gill, an organizer at the camp, said the woman apparently died of a drug overdose.
She said the death highlights the need for more addiction services because drugs are such a big issue in the city.
Gill, who is running as an independent in this month's city elections, said that as an outreach worker in mental health and addiction services, she has seen far too many overdose deaths.
On Saturday, tensions seem to be growing at the site, where one television camera operator was knocked to the ground and some protesters began hassling reporters.
Fire Chief John McKearney ordered protesters to remove large tarps and take down tents after emergency personnel had difficulty getting accessing the site Thursday to help someone who suffered a non-fatal drug overdose.
The protesters initially rejected McKearney's concerns about safety, but removed some tarps.
Mayor Gregor Robertson has said he wants the Occupy protesters to leave the site, but hasn't threatened to force them out or set any deadlines.
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2011/11/05/8659308-woman-dies-at-occupy-vancouver-site
Pass the syringe, br0s!
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DId any tea party rally ever involve tents and campouts for weeks?
or were they all highly policed daily events?
Yall keep forgetting what soft targets a bunch of hippies in a tent really are. If I sold drugs or felt like raping people, I'd see a bunch of rich wussies in tents and I'd be down there sniffing around.
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i criticized mathews and hardball several times for their trying to paint the tea party movement as racist.
yet you routinely call the tea party people extremists! Go figure!
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DId any tea party rally ever involve tents and campouts for weeks?
or were they all highly policed daily events?
Yall keep forgetting what soft targets a bunch of hippies in a tent really are. If I sold drugs or felt like raping people, I'd see a bunch of rich wussies in tents and I'd be down there sniffing around.
No. And yet the Tea Party has accomplished 1000x more than these people have. LOL.
One rose to power, installed their own people into Washington and is now driving the discourse regarding our financial situation after making it a focal point of their campaign. The other spends its time shitting on cop cars and crying for handouts.
Without the Tea Party, we'd still be full steam ahead to a $20 trillion deficit.
Good point you made, slick. Care to try again?
yet you routinely call the tea party people extremists! Go figure!
Is it really surprising? The only cable network this clown ever references is MSNBC.
But wait, he's in the Ron Paul boat or something.
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yet you routinely call the tea party people extremists! Go figure!
1% of them are extremists.
Just like probably 1% of the occupiers are criminals. The rest are just lazy people who feel entitled.
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No. And yet the Tea Party has accomplished 1000x more than these people have. LOL.
We will know after the 2012 elections, won't we?
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We will know after the 2012 elections, won't we?
Right now the GOP is almost guaranteed to take back the senate. Obama is already losing to romeny is not far from the others. in the swing states he is DOA.
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Right now the GOP is almost guaranteed to take back the senate. Obama is already losing to romeny is not far from the others. in the swing states he is DOA.
yeah, the tea party support is stronger than ever, we all see that.
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'Occupy Wall Street' Protester Throws Violent Fit in McDonald's When Denied Free Food
Fox News ^
Posted on November 5, 2011 7:02:20 PM EDT by Red in Blue PA
NEW YORK -- An "Occupy Wall Street" protester threw a violent fit in a McDonald’s after employees refused to give him free food.
Fisika Bezabeh, 27, ripped a credit-card reader from a counter and threw it at workers at about 2:30am local time Friday at the downtown Manhattan restaurant, which has become a bathroom spot for protesters.
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Nine million more reasons the Occupy protests are nothing like the Tea Party
The Examiner ^ | November 6, 2011 | Joe Newby
Posted on November 7, 2011 12:47:05 AM EST by 2ndDivisionVet
Since mid-September, the "Occupy Wall Street" protests have dragged on, and the Democrat-media complex continues to insist the movement is just like the Tea Party.
But a post at Verum Serum notes the cost to American taxpayers so far:
•Occupy Asheville – $170,000
•Occupy Atlanta – $451,691
•Occupy Austin – $78,000
•Occupy Boston – $150,000
•Occupy Charlotte – $1,700 per day
•Occupy Denver $365,000
•Occupy LA – $45,000 plus estimated $400,000 to repair the lawn
•Occupy Minneapolis – $200,000
•Occupy New York – $3,400,000
•Occupy Oakland – $2,000,000 for police overtime alone
•Occupy Philadelphia – $500,000
•Occupy Phoenix – $200,000
•Occupy Portland – $208, 796
•Occupy Raleigh – $51, 000
•Occupy Sacramento – $300,000
•Occupy San Diego – $49,000
•Occupy San Francisco – $100,000
•Occupy Seattle – $426,000
The total: $9,111,487.
Verum Serum notes some of these costs have not been updated in over a week, and are certain to go up as the protests drag on.
These costs, however, do not include the $4 million of lost revenue that resulted from the 12-hour shutdown of Oakland's port by Occupy protesters and their union allies.
Nor does it include the $10 million worth of damage done in an arson fire allegedly set by an Occupy Fort Collins protester on October 24....
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Occupy Oakland’s Mayhem and Destruction
FrontPage Magazine ^ | November 4, 2011 | Rick Moran
The Occupy Oakland protests that degenerated into violent mob action on Wednesday night and early Thursday morning were entirely predictable. The vandalism, the graffiti, and the spasm of violence that resulted in an attack on police who were trying to roust at least 200 demonstrators who had occupied an abandoned building was the result of incitement by the so-called “peaceful” protestors who are now condemning the violence as if they had nothing to do with it.
The worst of the rioting occurred late on Wednesday evening as about 200 protestors occupied the abandoned Traveler’s Aid building, claiming it in the name of the people. Police feared that the protestors would set the building on fire so they formed up a few blocks away and began to move toward the protest. Hearing of the impending police action, protestors barricaded the street and then faced off with authorities. They “smashed windows, threw rocks, ignited a 15-foot-high bonfire of garbage and covered downtown storefronts with graffiti,” according to the New York Times.
Oakland — heavily unionized and with a largely liberal population — paid the price for coddling the Occupy demonstrators, allowing them to shut down the Port of Oakland through intimidation and threats of violence against workers. The port shut down was described as “peaceful” by almost every major media organ in the country. But the reason the port was shut down was not to show solidarity with the demonstrators, but because police and port authorities feared for the lives of workers as a howling mob of 3,000 protestors found some choke points and barricaded the roads that led into the port.
There, they stopped trucks going into the port, intimidated and threatened drivers, set fires to block roads, and began tossing chunks of concrete at police who apparently had orders to let them do what they wanted. Eventually, authorities decided to shut down the port and reopen “when it is safe to do so,” a spokesman said in a statement. He added, “allow your fellow 99% to get home safe to their families.” That certainly doesn’t sound very “peaceful.” In fact, it is apparent that those protestors who shut down the port succeeded in intimidating authorities by threatening violence.
Despite promises by some protestors to keep the facility closed indefinitely, by late Wednesday night, most of the demonstrators had gone home and the port was reopened Thursday morning.
Certainly the port authorities knew of the march from downtown where several dozen windows were broken, graffiti was scrawled across store fronts, and both public and private property was defaced and destroyed. Nor could authorities mistake the threatening nature of many of the signs being carried by protestors, including a large banner leading the parade that read “Death to Capitalism” as well as several signs crudely calling for death to the police.
The “General Strike” called by the protestors for Wednesday was an almost complete fizzle, according to the Wall Street Journal. On Tuesday, organizer Tim Simons predicted “tens of thousands” would “turn out for Wednesday’s general strike.” He was mistaken by several orders of magnitude as police estimated the crowd that marched at around 4,500, with about 3,000 — many of them bused in by unions — at the port.
Despite Jean Quan, the Mayor of Oakland, giving permission for city workers to join the protest if they desired, few took her up on the offer. The Longshoremen’s union reported little change in the number of members available for work. Teachers appeared to be the largest group joining the strike as 300 out of 2000 union members called in sick or asked for a day off. And almost the entire business community ignored the call to shut down, although many closed early fearing violence. The protestors did not disappoint in that regard.
Quan has been indecisive, veering wildly between using force to shut down the first encampment across from city hall, while expressing her solidarity with the protestors’ aims. As University of San Francisco political scientist Corey Cook observed, Quan has alienated both police and protestors at the same time. “She has no friends at this point,” he told the Associated Press. Qaun’s flip-flopping caused the Oakland Police Association to issue a scathing letter, pointing out Quan’s massive inconsistency in asking them to clear the protest encampment one day and then allowing them back in a few days later.
There is something pathetic in Quan’s lack of leadership and indecision. As battles between police and protestors were raging on early Thursday morning, the mayor tweeted to the thugs tearing up her city, “Reports that tires are burning and barricades set up on 16th. Protestors need to call my office now.” Downtown Oakland is in chaos and all she can think of doing is ask the rioters to call her? Quan made several other tweets, all asking protestors to call her and talk. If it were just about any other city in the United States, the possibility of impeachment would be raised for trying to negotiate with domestic terrorists. In Oakland, however, the losses in private property and massive clean up bill is seen as the price to be paid for “freedom of speech.” But even Oakland has its limits. Quan now faces a possible recall as the result of her weakness in the face of violence.
Equally pathetic are the protestations from many protest organizers that they “disavow” the violence. A member of the Occupy Oakland “media committee” protested that the group “does not advocate violence and has no interest in supporting actions that endanger the community and possibilities that it has worked to build.”
They may believe that statement, but the reality of the situation points to something far more revealing: they refuse to police the “fringe” characters among them whose blood curdling pronouncements about “death” to bankers and police incite the kinds of incidents that occurred in downtown Oakland late Wednesday evening. The true “leaders” of this protest are those who are using the idealists as useful idiots to give the media a benign, even admirable view of the Occupy Oakland movement.
As witnessed during the riot, the whole point of the marches and demonstrations is to provoke a strong police response where people will be injured (not them), and perhaps even killed. They have made a martyr out of a young Iraq War vet who was accidentally hit in head by a tear gas canister, suffering a serious head injury. The incident has become a rallying point not only in Oakland, but at Occupy protests around the country. Despite the fact that there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that police actually aimed a tear gas gun at the young man, the cry has gone up around the country that his injuries were the result of “police brutality.”
Those who claim to eschew violence do precious little to prevent incitement in their own encampment where signage promotes revolution, and death to authorities. And — perhaps unwittingly, perhaps not — the publicity that the anarchists and violent revolutionaries bring to the movement as a result of riots and violent confrontations with police, serves the Occupy movement in its efforts to grow and attract a larger following.
Recent polls have been all over the map regarding the acceptance of the Occupy movement. An ORC International poll reported by CNN shows that 37% agree with “the overall positions” of the Occupy movement while 19% are opposed. A plurality — 44% — said they weren’t sure.
Meanwhile, a Quinnipiac poll reported by National Journal shows that 39% view the Occupy movement unfavorably while only 30% have a favorable opinion. Another 30% have no opinion or aren’t sure.
People may hate bailouts and think Wall Street is too greedy, and they may even resent the income disparity in America. Envy is not unknown in this country and it is easy to gin up outrage at “the rich” and “the bankers” simply by appealing to the lowest and basest of our emotions.
But if you ask people directly do they support the “Death of Capitalism,” few would say yes. And even fewer would support the Communists, anarchists, nihilists, and thugs who are the real leaders of the Occupy movement around the country, seeking a violent overturning of society and our economic system.
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LOL. Occupy retards got run over. Next time, someone will pull a gun on them.
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Right now the GOP is almost guaranteed to take back the senate. Obama is already losing to romeny is not far from the others. in the swing states he is DOA.
BWHAHHWAHAWHHWAHHWHWAHHW HAH, no they are going to lose the house and the dems keep senate and presidency, voters see thru gop panhandling to the rich.
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BWHAHHWAHAWHHWAHHWHWAHHWHAH, no they are going to lose the house and the dems keep senate and presidency, voters see thru gop panhandling to the rich.
LMFAO - Obama/Geithner/Bernake/Dimon/Daley/Immelt/Wolf - ONE VOICE!
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BWHAHHWAHAWHHWAHHWHWAHHWHAH, no they are going to lose the house and the dems keep senate and presidency, voters see thru gop panhandling to the rich.
It's ok for you to be stupid. Just don't let the whole world know you are stupid by posting such nonsense.
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It's ok for you to be stupid. Just don't let the whole world know you are stupid by posting such nonsense.
just wait for the election my friend :) You think the American people are stupid while you sit back and count your dollars, no they have awakened to your scam you have been running on them, time is up.
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just wait for the election my friend :) You think the American people are stupid while you sit back and count your dollars, no they have awakened to your scam you have been running on them, time is up.
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just wait for the election my friend :) You think the American people are stupid while you sit back and count your dollars, no they have awakened to your scam you have been running on them, time is up.
Most Americans are stupid. Obama was elected in 2008. That is the only evidence that is needed
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Most Americans are stupid. Obama was elected in 2008. That is the only evidence that is needed
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Most Americans are stupid. Obama was elected in 2008. That is the only evidence that is needed
stupidity is a subject you know well
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stupidity is a subject you know well
Andre - yes or no - does Mobaccaa have a cock?
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Andre - yes or no - does Mobaccaa have a cock?
shes very beautiful...post a picture of your Jewish girlfriend and lets compare
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Post reporter spends an in‘tents’ night amid anarchy in Zuccotti Park(New York)
NY Post ^ | 11-6-11 | CANDICE M. GIOVE
Posted on November 7, 2011 9:39:05 PM EST by dynachrome
This spirit of generosity and the naivete of the original OWS protesters is devolving into a state of distrust and paranoia, however.
They speak of theft, about government infiltrators and tales of Rikers Island castoffs being dropped off to roam and ravage the site.
From underneath my blanket, I hear allegations of financial corruption and intimidation over sexual orientation.
“I’m in a tent that keeps getting flooded, ransacked and robbed,” fumes a transgender group leader -- a female who identifies as a male.
He said that the transgender group would create its own police force for transgender protesters and females, since an immense distrust loomed over the OWS-created authority.
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LMFAO!!!!!
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Occupiers terrorize us: eatery (Occupy Wall Street)
NY Post ^ | November 8, 2011 | AMBER SUTHERLAND and BOB FREDERICKS
Posted on November 8, 2011 6:41:05 AM EST by lowbridge
“I’ve been told, ‘Watch your back!’ 10 times,” Stacey Tzortzatos, owner of Panini & Co. Breads, located across from Zuccotti Park, told The Post yesterday.
She and her employees are terrified by the constant threats, which she said began after she demanded the protesters stop using her shop’s restroom as a place to bathe every day.
The final straw came about two weeks ago, when the demonstrators broke a bathroom sink, flooding the shop, and clogged the toilet -- setting her back $3,000 in damages.
She put up a sign that said the bathroom was out of order, but they tore it down shortly afterward, she said.
“I have the police in here 10 times a day, [and] I’m the bouncer. I’ve been called the spawn of the devil. “It’s unbelievable what goes on in here every day, ” Tzortzatos said.
And on Friday, she said, a crazed squatter burst into the shop and demanded that workers fill a 10-gallon container of water.
When they refused, “he banged it on the ground and started yelling” and threatened the staff, she said.
“He said he was entitled to have it for free.”
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10 Quotes That Tell You How Bad The Occupy Wall Street Movement Has Gotten
Townhall.com ^ | November 8, 2011 | John Hawkins
Posted on November 8, 2011 7:18:25 AM EST by Kaslin
With a few exceptions, foremost among them the New York Post, the coverage of OWS protests compared to the coverage of tea-party protests is the worst media double standard in recent history. Nothing compares, because nothing else involves this much distortion on both ends of the coverage. It’s not just that most press outlets (like the protesters themselves) look the other way at depravity happening inside Obamaville, it’s that for years they treated the tea-party movement as some sort of feral mob that was forever on the brink of rampaging through the streets — like, say, Occupy Oakland just did. If you missed it when I posted it last week, go watch the ad the DNC ran in August 2009 when tea partiers first started showing up to town halls on ObamaCare. That set the tone. We began the year with tea-party pols being smeared as killers over a shooting they had nothing to do with and we end it with actual rapes being shrugged off by the press because they’re bad PR for a movement they support. Disgrace. -- Allahpundit
The mainstream media spent Obama's entire first term falsely condemning the Tea Party as a potentially violent hate-filled mob. Then, a violent hate-filled mob actually showed up and the MSM embraced it.
It's only going to get worse. As sympathetic liberal mayors are giving the protestors free rein to break the law, the media and the public get increasingly bored with them, and the anarchists, thugs, and wannabe revolutionaries attending the protests become more desperate to justify the time they've put in, violent outbursts are likely to increase, rather than decrease. The protestors are already trying to bait the police and even random citizens into conflicts to gain attention; so it's only a matter of time until even more people die. In fact, the biggest question that remains about the protests at this point is how big the body count will be before they're done....and, yes, there is already a body count.
1) A woman has died of a suspected heroin overdose at Occupy Vancouver as violence escalated at camps across America over the weekend, arousing concerns the protests may claim more victims.
The Mayor of Vancouver Gregor Robertson called for the camp to be closed down after the woman's body was found on Saturday. She was said to be in her twenties and found in a tent by another protestor. She was pronounced dead upon arrival at hospital.
On Thursday, a man went into cardiac arrest at the Vancouver site, also from a suspected overdose, but was rescued by a first aider until paramedics arrived.
2) Ray Patnaude emails: "My wife and I were at the AFP dinner. Some info on the AFP member who was pushed down the stairs by the (Occupy DC) protestors… she is the second woman the police are helping up in the Daily Caller video. Her name is Dolores Broderson, age 78. She rode on a bus for 11 hours from Detroit to get there. She went to the emergency room with a bloody nose and bruises on her hand and leg." -- pushed down the stairs
3) One of the speakers said the solution is nonviolent movement. No, my friend. I’ll give you two examples: French Revolution, and Indian so-called Revolution.
Gandhi, Gandhi today is, with respect to all of you, Gandhi today is a tumor that the ruling class is using constantly to mislead us. French Revolution made fundamental transformation. But it was bloody.
India, the result of Gandhi, is 600 million people living in maximum poverty.
So, ultimately, the bourgeoisie won’t go without violent means. Revolution! Yes, revolution that is led by the working class.
Long live revolution! Long live socialism!”
Crowd: [Cheers.] -- Occupy LA
4) A 29-year-old man associated with Occupy Fort Collins (was arrested) on suspicion of setting the Oct. 24 fire that destroyed an Old Town condominium complex and severely damaged another appeared in court Friday. ...The damage to the building is estimated at approximately $10 million.
5) The situation is just getting worse and worse for both protestors and residents in New York.
The quality of life for the Occupy Wall Street protestors have been drastically declining, with residents claiming that they are living on urine-filled streets and have even gone so far as "defecating on our doorsteps," according to one neighbor.
They are also disturbing residents with loud drum beats that go on throughout the night. Neighbors have gathered together and have asked for the protestors to vacate Zuccotti Park, where they have set up their base camp.
The board however, has called for a resolution that doesn't affect the protestors' First Amendment rights, but still calling for a crackdown on noise and public urination and defecation.
6) A lice outbreak was announced at the #Occupy Portland squatters camp this weekend. Head AND Body lice.
7) Everything seems to be possible. [Crowd Parrot Chant] You can travel to the moon. [CPC] You can become immortal [CPC] by biogenetics. You can have sex with animals, or whatever. [CPC]. -- Chant at Zuccotti Park
8) On October 24, three suspects approached a 24-year old female victim and allegedly threatened to kill her for filing a complaint with the NYPD that resulted in their friend’s arrest (for rape).
9) To date there have been at least four reported rapes and at least one attempted rape at these “occupy” encampments. Two of the victims were at the main Wall Street encampment and say they were urged not to report the attacks to the authorities.
Rapes also reportedly occurred at encampments in Dallas and Cleveland.
Now a fourth rape victim reports being raped at the Occupy Baltimore encampment. The victim say that other members of the encampment are protecting the perpetrator to avoid bad publicity for the movement. A reporter also finds masked thugs and evidence of heroin use at the Occupy Baltimore squatter camp. A leader for Occupy Baltimore laughs while admitting that the group urges it’s followers to conceal information about crimes committed at the encampment.
10) 4 #occupyarrests at #occupyasheville early Sunday morning puts global total (number of Occupy movement arrests) at 3362 #ows #ow #occupywallst
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Occupy protestors set up gals-only tent to guard against pervs
By HELEN FREUND and TODD VENEZIA
Last Updated: 10:11 PM, November 4, 2011
It’s a safe house from the sex fiends.
Zuccotti Park has become so overrun by sexual predators attacking women in the night that organizers felt compelled to set up a female-only sleeping tent today to keep the sickos away.
The large, metal-framed “safety tent” — which will be guarded by an all-female patrol — can accommodate as many as 18 people and will be used during the day for women-only meetings, said Occupy Wall Street organizers.
“This is all about safety in numbers,” said Becky Wartell, 24, a protester from Portland, Maine. “When you are in a large group of people sleeping, you will, of course, feel a lot safer than if you were by yourself.[and] if something happens there are so many more people to witness it and say something.
Andrew Kelly
OWS protesters construct a large, women-only tent to guard against perverts.
“It will also keep away people that might feel more inclined to prey on two- and three-people tents.”
The safety measure comes amid a terrifying spree of sexual assaults — including an alleged rape — in the Zuccotti Park camp.
Kitchen worker Tonye Iketubosin, 26, was arrested Wednesday for allegedly groping an 18-year-old woman after offering to help set up her tent. He is also a suspect in a rape at the park.
The grope victims include Kara Demetropoulos, who told The Post she was fondled in a tent last Saturday night after accepting a man’s offer of a place to sleep.
The protesters have not been reporting all the incidents to police — instead preferring to settle things on their own.
The tent and its all-female security detail is the latest crime-fighting measure, and it is already getting a lot of interest.
“I’m gonna be staying here,” said Olivia Chitayat, 23, who was helping to put up the tent. “It’s partially because of the recent attacks that have been happening.
“I think that this will help bring more women to the movement as well. I think a lot of women have been hesitant and especially for those that are new and don’t know a lot of people it’s hard to find a safe place to stay.”
Demetropoulos thought the safety tent was a good idea, though she doesn’t plan on using it even after her own experience.
“I feel safe in my tent, but I bet this will help a lot of other women feel a lot safer than they have been,” said the 20-year-old Alabama native.
Some of the male OWS protesters were still in denial over the growing number of sex attacks.
“Sexual harassment gets called rape, and it’s not,” one scoffed when told of the women’s tent. “There’s no way that it’s happening as much as people are saying it has. It’s just word spreading and getting misunderstood.”
One woman was also against the tent, saying the protesters who put it up tore her tent down to make room without giving her any notice.
“I’m pissed! I pretty much just got evicted,” fumed Angelina Isfreed, 32, after returning to find her tent taken down. “I won’t be staying there.”
More people may have to move. The protest organizers plan to put up seven more large tents, including ones for gay and transgender people, co-ed tents and a medical tent.
Meanwhile, Mayor Bloomberg said on his WOR radio show that he wasn’t going to tolerate lawlessness in Zuccotti Park.
“People have the right to protest; they don’t have a right to destroy a neighborhood,” he said. “Anybody that thinks we’re going to tolerate behavior that’s not protected is wrong.”
Also today, former Mayor Giuliani said President Obama must take responsibility for the “very dangerous” OWS movement.
“Barack Obama owns the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ movement; it would not have happened but for his class warfare,” Giuliani told the conservative Americans for Prosperity Foundation summit in Washington.
helen.freund@nypost.com
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/occupy_protestors_set_guard_gals_GrHaRZAhzAXBGnjRfXsnCJ#ixzz1d7dGSlw4
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More people may have to move. The protest organizers plan to put up seven more large tents, including ones for gay and transgender people, co-ed tents and a medical tent.
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Homeless Clash With Occupy Sacramento Protesters At Park
November 7, 2011 10:56 PM
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Reporting Tony Lopez
SACRAMENTO (CBS13) — As the Occupy Sacramento movement settles in for another night inside Cesar Chavez Park, another group sits, watches and wonders if they’ll ever get what they call “their park” back.
“These homeless people have been out here alot longer than you have,” one homeless person tells CBS13.
For years this plaza in the heart of Sacramento has been a homeless hide-away. But some just want the Occupy group to go away:
“I just wish they’d give us our park back,” one homeless woman says.
She’s one of dozens of homeless who’ve signed a petition:
Part of the problem, some homeless argue, they feel they’ve lost their freedom.
“They got their own security, they act like the police,” one man tells Lopez. “Anytime you do anything they say you can’t do this and that … and we’re saying ‘you’re not the police.’”
But the allegations of harassment go both ways.
“She on numerous occasions came to me with violent threats like “I’m going to get you,’ just terrible things,” one Occupy organizer says.
The Occupy leader felt so threatened by a homeless woman, she thought about getting a restraining order.
While she worries about her loss of security, those who used to call this park home worry about how long this group will stay.
“They say they’re gonna stay until Wall Street goes down,” one homeless woman says. “I don’t see Wall Street going down. Wall Street is too big.”
And this park may be too small for some.
LOL. The OWS act like bums.
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Support For Occupy Movement Continues To Plummet, New WSJ/NBC Poll Finds Only 28% Back Protests
The Wall Street Journal reports that:
More than three-quarters of Americans say the country’s economic structure is out of balance and “favors a very small proportion of the rich over the rest of the country,” taking up the calls of Occupy Wall Street protesters to reduce the power of major banks and end tax breaks for the affluent and for corporations, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll shows.
But the actual question does not mention Occupy Wall Street. Instead we ge these two questions:
Q6 Now I’m going to read you the names of several public figures, and groups and I’d like you to rate your feelings toward each one as very positive, somewhat positive, neutral, somewhat negative, or very negative. If you don’t know the name, please just say so.
The Occupy Wall Street Movement: 16% very positive, 16% somewhat positive, 20% neutral, 12% somewhat negative, 23% very negative, 13% don’t know name
Q22 Do you consider yourself a supporter of the Occupy Wall Street Movement?
28% Yes, 63% No, 2% Depends, 7% Not sure
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/wsjnbc-poll-only-28-support-occupy-movement
Hahaha, Democrats can't do shit right. Good to see this is blowing up in their face. How long until they cast these degenerates to the wayside? 28% support this far out from the election? DOA.
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Occupy Attacks!: Occupy Portland Attacks KGW News Crew! [Foul Language Alert]
YouTube ^ | November 8, 2011 | Daylight Disinfectant
Posted on November 8, 2011 9:59:23 PM EST by Choose Ye This Day
Occupy Attacks! Occupy Portland Attacks KGW News Crew!
BREAKING (Viewer Discretion Advised) Dateline November, 8, 2011 - Mostly RAW Apologies for being long, but the entire video is good. A KGW News Crew was attacked by Occupy Portland while a Citizen Journalist films. Quote the attacker: "We are the 99% and we don't want you in our society!" The attacker uses profanity and insists to a Native American member of the News team that he (the protestor) is the actual native American. While the angry protestor insists he does not want violence, he continues his tirade and a lengthy provocation. Some shoving ensues. He eventually has to be taken away by the Portland Police. At the end the KGW reporter gives a short interview. In 8 years of working in Detroit the reporter has not seen anything this bad. The individual attacker has attacked the reporter before.
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this just in, numbers boy has no life other than copy and pasting articles, and doesn't think for himself either.
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Source: WWLTV.com
NEW ORLEANS -- New Orleans police discover a dead body at the OccupyNola camp in Duncan Plaza.
Detectives suspect the body of the 53-year-old man may have been there for two days, and there were no visible signs of trauma.
Police are treating it as an unclassified death.
The coroner won’t release the cause of death until an autopsy is performed
Read more: http://www.wwltv.com/news/Body-found-at-OccupyNola-camp...
LMFAO!
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this just in, numbers boy has no life other than copy and pasting articles, and doesn't think for himself either.
This was in the early edition..you're late ;)
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This was in the early edition..you're late ;)
How many dead bodies were found at the tea party rallies?
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How many dead bodies were found at the tea party rallies?
how many arrests? rapes?
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Occupy Wall Street, Jon Corzine, and other failed human beings
The Washington Times ^ | 8 Nov 2011 | Eric Golub
Posted on November 9, 2011 3:51:11 AM EST by Rummyfan
Wall Street corruption and greed does exist, and leftists are sanctioning it, engaging in it, and blaming conservatives for it.
When Barack Obama began flogging “Wall Street fat cats” and “hedge fund managers” in his speeches, it gave the green light for what would become the violent community organization known as Occupy Wall Street. Yet what will soon become apparent is that the movement was never intended to be financial. It was entirely ideological.
In short, liberals would be given a free pass while conservatives would be burnt at the stake.
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Democrats Christopher Dodd and Barney Frank were at the epicenter of the 2008 economic collapse. They have never nor will they ever be held accountable. Christopher Dodd retired rather than face questions about his sweetheart deals with Countrywide. As for Barney Frank, several crimes have been committed in his very home, from prostitution to drug running. He has always claimed ignorance.
Mr. Frank admitted that he had “ideological blinders” on when dealing with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Yet Mr. Frank still has his job, and former Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines was given a platinum parachute of over 90 million dollars.
(Excerpt) Read more at communities.washingtonti mes.com ...
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It’s crime all the time at Zuccotti Park (Obamaville Tent City is becoming Camp Crime)
NY Post ^ | 11/07/11 | LARRY CELONA, JAMIE SCHRAM, KIRSTAN CONLEY
It’s crime all the time at Zuccotti Park
By LARRY CELONA, JAMIE SCHRAM and KIRSTAN CONLEY
Last Updated: 9:36 AM, November 7, 2011
Tent City is becoming Camp Crime.
Occupy Wall Street squatters at Zuccotti Park have been busted in recent weeks for incidents ranging from petty thefts to menacing threats and from low-life drug sales to sicko sex attacks, law-enforcement sources told The Post.
The complaints have been a near-daily phenomena since Oct. 11, just about three weeks after a few dozen anti-greed activists began occupying the private park.
“There’s been a spike in crime the last few weeks,” one law-enforcement source said, noting the increasing number of protesters camping out in sleeping bags and tents who are easy prey for criminals.
It’s unclear what sparked the spike, cops said -- the influx of people as the OWS demonstrations gained traction or fed-up protesters overcoming their resistance to reporting crimes.
Among the most violent episodes are three alleged sex attacks, sources said, that weren’t reported to cops for days.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
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I do not believe the police.
OWS is still stupid.
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Man found dead in Occupy New Orleans encampment
Published: Tuesday, November 08, 2011, 8:17 PM Updated: Wednesday, November 09, 2011, 7:54 AM
By Leslie Williams, The Times-Picayune The Times-Picayune
A 53-year-old man was found dead Tuesday inside a tent pitched at the Occupy New Orleans encampment at Duncan Plaza across from City Hall. He appears to have been living in the tent inside the occupation zone, said John Gagliano, chief investigator for the Orleans Parish Coroner's Office.
View full sizeOccupy New Orleans protesters march down Tulane Avenue toward City Hall
The man appears to have been dead for at least two days, Gagliano said.
Police received a call shortly before 6 p.m. about the incident in the 1300 block of Perdido Street.
"There are no obvious signs of trauma to the body," Gagliano said.
At the moment, his death is "unclassified," according to authorities.
An autopsy will be performed soon to determine the cause of death, Gagliano said.
Inspired by the Occupy Wall Street protests, the Occupy New Orleans group opposes what it views as the disproportionate power wielded by corporations and the rich.
Leslie Williams can be reached at lwilliams@timespicayune.com or 504.826.3358
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Oakland Businesses Claim Sales Have Been Cut In Half By The Protests
Robert Johnson and Linette Lopez | Nov. 9, 2011, 4:41 PM | 38 | 2
Business owners in Oakland have called upon the police to do whatever they need to disband the Occupy camp, saying profits are plummeting and the reputation of the city is at stake.
Silicon Valley Mercury News reports that Oakland Mayor Jean Quan has agreed the Occupy protest is hurting jobs and she's asked protesters to work with the city to end the occupation peacefully.
Acknowledging merchants in the area are part of the 99 percent, Occupy representatives said they mean no harm to local shopkeepers.
But business owners are done talking. "The encampment needs to go away," said Deborah Boyer, president of the Lake Merritt Benefit District. "It's become dangerous."
Nohemi Duran, a worker at the Juice Joint Eatery near the Occupy encampment told the Mercury News, "People don't want to come downtown."
Retailers claim the protests have cut sales in half and scared possible tenants away from the area.
"Business is slow," Mark Amarri, manager of The Plaza Cafe added. "Things were good before the protests began. Now it's going to be hard to pay the rent."
One local real estate firm claims that five companies they were working with to set up operations in the city have put their plans on hold or cancelled them altogether.
"This is making it harder to market downtown Oakland to potential tenants," said William Nork, a senior vice president with Cornish & Carey. "Oakland is becoming a nationwide story. A lot of that story is not good."
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Man Arrested for Breaking EMT's Leg at Occupy Wall Street
NBC New York ^ | Nov.10, 2011 | Melissa Russo and Shimon Prokupecz
A man has been arrested for allegedly attacking a paramedic and breaking his leg at the Occupy Wall Street site Wednesday night.
Police say paramedics were called to Zuccotti Park for a man who was acting irrationally.
When they arrived, the man in question appeared to be in emotional distress and police decided he needed to be taken to the hospital. But he refused to be placed in the ambulance and pushed one of the EMTs into a ladder, fracturing the EMT's leg.
The man is being charged with assault.
Earlier in the day, Mayor Bloomberg defended the protesters as law-abiding folks who keep to themselves and don't cause trouble.
(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnewyork.com ...
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Tuberculosis Breaks Out At Occupy Atlanta’s Base
CBS ^ | November 10, 2011 1:55 PM | unattributed
ATLANTA (CBS Atlanta) – The home base for Occupy Atlanta has tested positive for tuberculosis.
The Fulton County Health Department confirmed Wednesday that residents at the homeless shelter where protesters have been occupying have contracted the drug-resistant disease. WGCL reports that a health department spokeswoman said there is a possibility that both Occupy Atlanta protesters and the homeless people in the shelter may still be at risk since tuberculosis is contracted through air contact.
“Over the last three months were have been two persons who have resided in this facility who have been diagnosed with confirmed or suspected infectious tuberculosis (TB),” said Fulton County Services Director Matthew McKenna in a written statement to CBS Atlanta. “One of these persons was confirmed to have a strain of TB that is resistant to a single, standard medication used to treat this condition. All person(s) identified as positive have begun treatment and are being monitored to ensure that medication is taken as directed.”
The Atlanta Task Force for the Homeless has indicated that two cases have been made public knowledge to the group, the first coming from someone who contracted the disease in September. The identities of the people who have contracted the disease, however, have not been disclosed by the health department to this point.
The news of the tuberculosis contractions could force Occupy Atlanta to move once again. WGCL reports that more than 100 protesters made the move to the homeless shelter Oct. 30 after Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed evicted Occupy Atlanta from Woodruff Park, citing that they were no longer allowed to camp out overnight. The homeless shelter is also facing an eviction of its own from the city.
Messages left by CBS Atlanta for Occupy Atlanta and the Atlanta Task Force for the Homeless were not immediately returned.
lmfao!!!!!! LOL!!!!
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*UPDATED* #OccupyWallStreet: The Rap Sheet, So Farby John Nolte
***Updated 11/9/2011– Today we hit incident 189
http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/10/28/occupywallstreet-the-rap-sheet-so-far
One of the secret weapons the corrupt mainstream media uses in their never-ending quest to Palace Guard for the left is context. For example, when it came to the Tea Party, the MSM was notorious for amplifying a single incident (that was usually a lie) and using it to attempt to smear and define an entire movement. This is what you do when you want to quickly take out a political enemy.
The MSM’s contextual game changes, however, when their desire is to strengthen a movement and give it credibility and room to grow. By dutifully reporting individual incidents but not reporting on the growing scope and size of Occupy Wall Street lawlessness, the MSM is willfully covering up the violence, vandalism, and anti-Semitism that truly does define this movement.
Moreover, by intentionally keeping the pieces of this story scattered, the MSM is allowed to have their cake and eat it too. No one can accuse them of not reporting these incidents, but by choosing not to bring the pieces together, the MSM ensures the least amount of public relations damage is done to the Occupiers.
What I’ve collected below is far from comprehensive but still shows over 75 incidents of sexual assault, violence, vandalism, anti-Semitism, extortion, perversion, and lawlessness.
The MSM could easily tell the story of how this violence-prone movement is becoming an increasing threat to our society. After all, my research below is the result of nothing more than Twitter and Google. Among others, The New York Times, Washington Post, Politico, and the LA Times have willfully chosen not to use the resources at their disposal to give the public an honest look at this growing menace. In their partisan minds, truth doesn’t trump agenda.
A few notes on the list below. Whenever possible, I traced the incident back to the original news source. I was as careful as possible when it came to duplicate postings, though I would guess there are a few in here. There are also less than five examples that don’t involve what I would qualify as outright lawlessness but do help to expose the Occupiers for who and what they really are. Finally, and this is the most important way in which the list is imperfect, I most certainly wasn’t able to document everything. A perfect list would be much more alarming than the one I slapped together in just a few hours.
What is true is that on October 18, pollster Doug Schoen (a Democrat!) discovered that a full 31% of Occupiers were willing to commit violence in pursuit of their agenda, whatever that is. As a response to this startling and frightening admission, the MSM either outright ignored or dismissed it. What you’ll see below proves that at least when it comes to their willingness to break the law, the Occupiers are keeping their word.
The list is in no particular order. Like the Occupiers themselves, it’s unruly, disorganized, messy and not focused solely on the nation’s media centers. The movement is spreading across America and bringing with it their outrageous and appalling behavior.
1.NY: 10/1/2011 — Police Arrest More Than 700 Protesters on Brooklyn Bridge
2.Madison, WI: 10-27-2011 — Madison Occupiers Lose Permit Due to Public Masturbation
3.Phoenix: 10/28/2011 — Flier at Occupy Phoenix Asks, “When Should You Shoot a Cop?”
4.NY: 10/18/2011 — Thieves Preying on Fellow Protesters
5.NY: 10/9/2011 — Stinking up Wall Street: Protesters Accused of Living in Filth as Shocking Pictures Show One Demonstrator Defecating on a POLICE CAR
6.NY: 10/7/2011 — Occupiers Rush Police … More
7.Cleveland: 10/18/2011 — ‘Occupy Cleveland’ Protester Alleges She Was Raped
8.NY: 10/10/2011 — ‘Increasingly Debauched’: Are Sex, Drugs & Poor Sanitation Eclipsing Occupy Wall Street?
9.Seattle: 10/18/2011 — Man Accused of Exposing Self to Children Arrested
10.10/12/2011 — Iran Supports ‘Occupy Wall Street’
11.Portland: 10/16/2011 – #OccupyPortland Protester Desecrates Memorial To U.S. War Dead
12.Portland: 10/15/2011 — #OccupyPortland Protesters Sing “F*** The USA”
13.Chicago: 10/17/2011 — COMMUNIST LEADER Cheered at Occupy Chicago
14.10/15/2011 — American Nazi Party Endorses Occupy Wall Street‘s ’Courage,‘ Tells Members to Support Protests and Fight ’Judeo-Capitalist Banksters’
15.Boston: 10/14/2011 — Coast Guard member spit on near Occupy Boston tents
16.Boston: 10/11/2011 — Boston Police Arrest Over 100 from Occupy Boston
17.New York: 10/11/2011 — “You Can Have Sex with Animals.”
18.New York: 10/15/2011 — Harassing Police with Accusations of Phony Injuries
19.New York: 10/9/2011 – ‘Occupy Wallstreet’ Protesters Steal from Local Businesses
20.New York: 10/25/2011 — Three Men Threatened to Kill 24-Year-Old Occupy Wall Street Protester for Reporting Rape
21.Baltimore: 10/18/2011 — #OccupyBaltimore Discourages Sexual Assault Victims from Contacting Police
22.Portland: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Portland’s Attempt At Wealth Redistribution Ends In Theft
23.Los Angeles: 10/14/2011 – Anti-Semitic Protester at Occupy Wall Street
24.10/27/2011 — A Death Threat From an Occupy Wall Street Protester
25.10/27/2011 – Anti-Semitic Tweet From Occupier or Sympathizer
26.Boston: 10/20/2011 — Occupy Boston Doesn’t Want Police Involved in Rape
27.New York: 10/5/2011: Anti-Semitic Occupier Screams About Jews, Israel
28.New York: 10/4/2011 — Occupier Taunts Jewish Man
29.Boston: 10/2011 — Occupiers Block Street
30.New York: 10/2011 — Occupier Tries to Steal Police Officer’s Gun
31.New York: 10/27/2011 — Occupiers Block Traffic, Get Arrested
32.Oakland: 10/27/2011 — Occupiers Throw Garbage at Police
33.Oakland: 10/19/2011 — Abusive #OccupyOakland Protesters Ban Media from Tent City
34.Eugene, OR: 10/19/2011 — Occupiers Displace Farmers’ Market Threatening Hundreds of Jobs
35.Portland, OR: 10/18/2011 — Capitalist Offering Jobs at Occupy Portland Finds Few Takers
36.NY: 10/20/2011 — #OccupyWallStreet Threatens Businesses, Patrons
37.NY: 10/14/2011 — Violence Breaks Out During #OccupyWallStreet March Toward Stock Exchange
38.NY: 10/14/2011 — Protesters March On Wall Street, Scuffle With Cops
39.Oakland: 10/19/2011 — #OccupyOakland Protesters Threaten Reporter
40.Oakland: 10/26/2011 — Occupiers Scuffle with Police
41.Oakland: 10/24/2011 — Protesters Storm, Vandalize, Shut Down Chase Bank
42.Dayton, OH: 10/22/2011 — Protester: ‘F*ck The Military, F*ck Your Flag, And F*ck The Police’
43.Chicago: 10/14/2011 – Protesters’ Message At #OccupyChicago Rally: ‘Destroy Israel’
44.NY: 10/23/2011 — #OccupyWallStreet Supporter Rants Against Israel, Jews
45.NY: 10/22/2011 — #Occupy Kid: ‘Burn Wall Street, Burn!’
46.NY: 10/21/2011 — New Yorkers Fed Up With Noisy, Defecating Protesters
47.Oakland: 10/21/2011 — Occupy Oakland Evicted After Reports Of Crime And Intimidation
48.Oakland: 10/19/2011 — #OccupyOakland Out of Control: Rats, Graffiti, Vandalism, Sexual Harassment, Public Sex and Urination
49.Chicago: 10/26/2011 – Occupiers Under Investigation by FBI for Links to Terrorism
50.Cleveland: 10/29/2011 — Rape Reported at Occupy Cleveland
51.Dallas: 10/24/2011 — Police Investigating Possible Sexual Assault Of Teen At Occupy Dallas
52.Bloomington, IN: 10/26/2011 — Man Claims Occupy Bloomington Protesters Drugged, Handcuffed Him
53.NY: 10/10/2011 — Sex, Drugs and Hiding from the Law at Wall Street Protests
54.Glasgow: 10/26/2011 — Woman Gang-Raped
55.Boston: 10/23/2011 — Occupy Boston Protesters Arrested For Dealing Heroin – With 6 Year-Old in Tent
56.Portland: 10/16/2011 – Sex Offender Registers Occupy Portland Camp as Address
57.Denver: 10/15/2011 — Occupy Denver Demonstrator Accused of Groping TV Photographer
58.Lawrence, KS: 10/25/2011 — Sexual Assault Reported at Occupy Camp
59.Minneapolis, MN: Bricks, Rocks, ‘Riot Supplies’ Discovered by Police
60.Phoenix, AZ: 10/27/2011 — Neo-Nazis Patrol “Occupy Phoenix” With AR-15′s
61.Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Occupy Chicago Invades City Hall
62.10/26/2011 — ACORN, Occupy Email Talks About Assault on Banks
63.10/26/2011 – OccupyWallStreet Strategy for Reports of Violence Against Cops
64.Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Unrepentant Domestic Terrorist Bill Ayers Wows Occupiers
65.Chicago: 10/25/2011 — Ayers Coaches #OccupyChicago, Callsg for School ‘Occupations’
66.10/26/2011/ — Occupy Protests Have Jewish Leaders Concerned
67.Wash DC: 10/27/2011 – OccupyDC Leftists Provoke Police – Hang Flag on Top of DC Statue
68.Albuquerque, NM: 10/26/2011 — Occupy Squatters Riot With Police
69.San Diego: 10/25/2011 — Flag Used as Chew Toy by Occupier’s Dog
70.Oakland: 10/25/2011 — Occupiers Throw Bottles at Police
71.NY: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Protesters: Rush Limbaugh Is Bigger Threat Than Al-Qaeda
72.10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Launching First Nationwide General Strike in America Since 1946
73.NY: 10/28/2011 — Fox 5 News Reporter Assaulted at OWS
74.10/28/2001 — Total Occupy Arrests Made Thus Far: 2750
75.Nashville: 10/28/2011 — 30 Arrests Made at Wall St. Protest
76.NY: 10/20/2011 — Former Marine Tries to Taunt Police into Violence
77.NY: 1023/2011 — Islamist Group Joins with Occupy Wall Street
78.Los Angeles: 10/13/2011 — Roundup of Overt Occupy anti-Semitism
79.NY: 10/12/2011 — There are No Anti-Semites at Occupy Wall Street. Except for This Guy
80.Missoula, MT: 10/20/2011 — Drunk 11-Year-Old At Occupy Missoula, Adult Arrested
81.Oakland: 10/28/2011 — Bounty Out On Police Officer?
82.Manchester, NH: 10/28/2011 – Woman charged with pimping teen recruited at Occupy NH rally
83.San Diego: 10/28/2011 – 40 Occupiers arrested
84.Boston: 10/24/2011 — Occupy Boston Vandalism of Banks
85.Boston: 10/25/2011 – Store Owner Suffers 4 Break Ins Since Occupy Boston Began
86.Portland: 10/28/2011 — Portland Police: Buckets of Excrement Scattered Around #OccupyPortland Camp
87.Seattle: 10/20/2011 — Two Possible Occupiers Charged With Assault
88.Seattle: 10/18/2011 — Armed Felon Arrested at Occupy Seattle
89.Seattle: 10/18/2011 — A Tent Fight and (At Least) One Arrest at Occupy Seattle
90.Seattle: 10/17/2011 — Over 50 Cops Clear Westlake Occupation, Make Eight Arrests
91.Seattle: 10/13/2011 — Cops Arrest Several Occupy Protesters
92.Seattle: 10/13/2011 — Chanting Protesters Surround Police After Officers Arrest Two
93.Denver: 10/29/2011 — Protesters Clash with Police at OWS Denver
94.Austin: 10/13/2011 – Occupy Austin protesters arrested for blocking cleaning Crews
95.Calgary, CN: 10/28/2011 — Occupiers do $40,000 in Property Damage
96.Cincinnati, OH: 10/21/2011 — 23 Arrested, Remains of protests fill two dumpsters
97.Sacramento: 10/19/2011 – 9 arrested in ‘Occupy Sacramento’ protest
98.Sacramento: 10/13/2011 – Four More Occupy Sacramento Demonstrators Arrested
99.Austin, TX: 10/22/2011 – Man Arrested After Knife Incident at Occupy Austin Camp
100.Nashville: 10/29/2011 — Tenn. Protesters Arrested For 2nd Straight Night
101.Austin, TX: 10/30/2011 – Austin Police arrest 38 Occupy Austin Protesters
102.NY: 10/30/2011 — Woman Assaulted in Her tent
103.Orlando, FL: 10/28/2011 – Occupy Orlando, police clash over use of downtown park
104.Orlando, FL: 10/26/2011 – 2 Occupy Orlando protesters arrested for trespass
105.Orlando, FL: 10/22/2011 – Police arrest 19 Orlando protesters on trespass charges
106.Asheville, NC: 10/30/2011 – Occupiers Clash with Homeless in Asheville
107.Nationwide: 10/27/2011 — Pro-Occupy Site claims 2511 Arrests Thus Far
108.Fort Worth, TX: 10/16/2011 — Arrests at Occupy Fort Worth Protest
109.NY: 10/29/2011 — Three Incidents of Anti-Semitism
110.San Francisco: 10/29/2011 — Anti-Semitic, Folsom Street Fair Types & Che Guevara Lovin
111.Oklahoma City: 10/30/2011 — Death of Street Poet at #OccupyOKC Treated as Homicide
112.Baltimore: 10/31/2011 — Woman Claims She was Raped at #OccupyBaltimore
113.Boston: 10/31/2001 — Alleged Heroin Dealer Joined Occupy Movement
114.Ottawa: 10/31/2011 — #OccupyOttawa Violent & Sexual Assaults Not Reported to Police
115.Santa Barbara, CA: 10/5/2011 — Occupiers Defy Police
116.Santa Barbara, CA: 10/6/2011 — 8 Occupiers Arrested
117.Denver, CO: 10/31/2011 — Occupiers Taunt Police, Knock Motorcycle Cop to Ground
118.Dallas, TX: 10/24/2011 — 23 Occupy Dallas Protesters Arrested After Bank Demonstration
119.Richmond, VA: 10/31/2011 — Arrests of Occupiers in Richmond
120.Dallas, TX: 1v1/1/2011: Man Arrested for Child Sex assault at Occupy Dallas Camp
121.NY: 11/1/2011 — Protesters Flock to STD-Test Clinics After Occupier ‘Free Love’
122.Iowa: 11/1/2011 — Occupiers Intend to Disrupt Iowa Caucus
123.NY: 11/1/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Costs Main Street Workers Their Jobs
124.San Diego: 10/29/2011 — Businesswoman Closes Shop After Threats By Occupiers
125.Palm Desert, CA: 11/1/2011 — Occupiers Arrested
126.Tampa, FL: 10/24/2011 — Six Occupiers Arrested
127.Tampa, FL: 10/27/2011 – Two More Arrested In Connection to Occupy Tampa Movement
128.Tampa, FL: 10/29/2011 – Occupy Tampa Protesters Arrested After Scuffle With Police
129.Oakland, CA: 11/3/2011 — Rallies Turn Violent
130.Seattle, WA: 11/2/2011 — Cops, Protesters Clash
131.Oakland, CA: 11/3/2011 — Protests Degenerate Into Chaos
132.Tulsa, OK: 11/2/2011 — Occupiers Clash With Police
133.Sacramento, CA: 11/2/2011 — Occupiers Smash County Vehicle Windows
134.Philadelphia: 11/2/2011 — Occupiers Arrested
135.Charlottesville, VA: 11/1/2011 — Underage Drinking at Occupy Charlottesville Site
136.Portland: 11/2/2011 — Occupier Shoves Police Officer into Moving Bus
137.Oakland: 11/2/2011 — Malkin’s Collection of Vandalism and Menacing Signs
138.NYC: 11/3/2011 — Occupier Busted In Tent Grope, Suspected In Rape
139.NYC: 11/4/2011 – 16 OWS Protesters Arrested at Goldman Sachs HQ
140.Oakland, CA: 11-3-2011 — Occupy-Friendly Business Vandalized
141.Asheville, NC: 11/3/2011 — 24 Occupiers Arrested
142.Raleigh, NC: 10/28/2011 – Eight at Occupy Raleigh Arrested After Standoff
143.NYC: 11/4/2011 — Deranged Homeless Man Goes on Violent Rampage In Zuccotti Park
144.Dallas, TX: CPS Seizes Baby From ‘Occupy Dallas’ Site
145.Wash DC: 11/4/2011 — Occupier Uses Child as Human Shield – Video
146.Wash DC: 11/4/2011 — Occupiers Try to Storm Americans for Prosperity Event — Video
147.Omaha, NE: 11/3/2011 — Three Occupiers Arrested
148.Atlanta: 11/3/2011 — Protester Turns On Fellow Protester With Knife
149.Los Angeles: 10/28/2011 — Drug Use and Property Damage
150.Boston, MA: 11/4/2011 — 3 Charged With Dealing Crack; Occupy Boston ‘Deteriorating’
151.Boston, MA: 11/4/2011 — Occupiers Storm Israeli Consulate; Anti-Israel Chants — Video
152.Vancouver, CN: 11/5/2011 – Occupy Vancouver Death Dooms Protest Camp
153.Fort Collins, CO: 11/4/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Setting Fire to Condo Complex … $10M Damage
154.Chula Vista, CA: 11/6/2011 — Underage Girl Missing From Occupy Protests
155.Los Angeles, CA: 11/5/2011 – Two Assaults Raise Concerns About Crime at Occupy L.A.
156.Dallas, TX: 11/5/2011 — Eight Arrests at Dallas Bank Protest
157.Olympia, WA: 11/5/2011 – Two Occupy Protesters Arrested
158.Seattle, WA: 11/3/2011 — Occupiers Cost City $426,000; Most of it Police Overtime
159.Olympia, WA: 11/2/2011 — 3 Occupiers Arrested for Suspected of Robbing Local Wine Merchant
160.Worcester, MA: 11/6/2011 — 25 Occupiers Arrested
161.Milwaukee, WI: 11/2/2011 — Photojournalist, Two others Arrested at Protest … Video
162.Milwaukee, WI: 10/20/2011 — Police Confront Occupier –Video … Arrested
163.Wash. DC: 11/5/2011 — Rampaging Occupiers Attack 78 Year-Old Woman — Video
164.Rochester, NY: 11/3/2011 — 161 Occupiers Arrested at Park
165.NYC: 11/5/2011 – Police Clash With Occupiers, 20 Arrested at Courthouse Protest
166.NYC: 11/5/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Vandalizing McDonald’s; Wanted Free Food
167.Asheville, NC: 11/5/2011 – Four Occupiers Arrested
168.Honolulu, HI: 11/6/2011 — Police Arrest Half-Dozen Occupiers
169.Waikiki, HI: 11/7/2011 — Two Dozen Occupiers Arrested
170.Portland, OR: 11/7/2011 — Occupiers Arrested for Threatening Restaurant Employees
171.Portland, OR: 11/7/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Threatening Security Staff with Hammer
172.Augusta, GA: 10/28/2011 — Occupier Arrested in Knife Threat
173.Portland OR: 11/9/2011 — Police Suspect Occupiers in Molotov Cocktail Attack
174.Sacramento, CA: 11/7/2011 — Homeless Clash With Occupy Protesters At Park
175.New Orleans: 11/8/2011 — Man Dead for Two Days Found in Occupy Encampment
176.San Diego: 11/7/2011 — Occupiers Splatter Vendor Food Carts with Blood, Urine
177.Los Angeles: 11/7/2011 — Occupiers Shut Down Burger King — Video
178.Atlanta, GA: 11/6/2011 — Occupiers Arrested After Attacking Police
179.St. Louis, MO: 11/9/2011 — Occupiers Hack Into Mayor’s Website
180.Oakland, CA: 11/8/2011 — “Dangerous” Occupiers Hurting Small Business Owners
181.Vancouver, CN: 11/8/2011 — Occupiers Bite Two Police Officers
182.Wash DC: 11/8/2011 — Occupiers Use Children to Block Traffic — Video
183.Portland, OR: 11/9/2011 — Occupiers Threaten Citizen-Journalist – Video
184.Wash DC: 11/8/2011 — Occupiers Use Racial Taunts Against Black Security Guard — Video
185.Eureka, CA: 11/9/2011 — Occupier Defecates in Bank – Video
186.Wash DC: 11/5/2011 – Occupiers Menace Children, Female Reporter – Video
187.Portland, OR: 11/8/2011 — Occupiers Menace News Crew – Video
188.NYC: 11/8/2011 — Occupier: ‘I Wouldn’t Give a F**k if 9/11 Happened 911 More Times’
189.NYC: 11/8/2011 — Small Business Owner Threatened, Terrorized By Occupiers
Recently, President Obama said that the Occupiers are just like the Tea Party.
That’s a lie.
We need to keep this list updated and comprehensive. Please email whatever I might have missed and any future incidents to jnolte@breitbart.com.
ADDED: On top of everything else, imagine the drain all this lawlessness has on law enforcement resources. My list doesn’t even include the collateral damage. Thanks to Occupy Wall Street’s drain on police personnel, shootings increased 154% in New York alone. What is it in Chicago, Seattle, Boston, Oakland, and Cleveland?
Just last week Vice President Joe Biden was all freaked out about the possibility of crime rates increasing if Congress didn’t pass Obama’s Son of Stimulus. Well, that premise was based on a lie, but the same White House trying to sell that bill of bull isn’t at all concerned with the very real increase in crime caused by the Occupiers they encourage.
Please keep the tips coming. Email me at jnolte@breitbart.com.
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Tuberculosis Breaks Out At Occupy Atlanta’s Base
CBS ^ | November 10, 2011 1:55 PM | unattributed
falling on floor laughing
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falling on floor laughing
I told you bro from day 1 - there was going to be a cholera outbreak w these pigs!
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Breaking: Police investigate shooting at Occupy Burlington encampment
Free Press Staff
Copyright Burlington Free Press
A 35-year-old man died of a gunshot wound at the scene of the Occupy Burlington encampment, according to the mayor.
Police said it will be several hours before they know more, but did say there is no danger to the public. Police said they have recovered the weapon.
Todd Lacroix, an Occupy Burlington organizer, echoed several people on the scene who said the shooting was apparently self-inflicted.
Fletcher Allen Health Care spokesman Mike Noble said the victim from City Hall Park was being evaluated in the hospital’s emergency room as of 4:20 p.m. He said he could not identify the man because doing so would violate federal privacy regulations.
At a police briefing at the park Burlington Deputy Police Chief Andi Higbee said police received a 911 call a little after 2 p.m. of a discharged firearm in the park.
"We do not believe the public is at risk," Higbee said.
Police and rescue personnel swarmed into the park shortly after 2 p.m. A motionless man was removed from a green tent where blood was evident. About a half dozen police cars were at the scene at about 2:20 p.m. Police were seen questioning several people as others standing in the park cried and hugged each other.
Police said they were trying to get a warrant to go into the tent where the shooting apparently happened.
Higbee said a firearm was recovered at the scene, but he declined to describe the weapon.
Hayley Mason of Burlington, who said she has been involved with the Occupy Burlington movement since it established itself in the park October 28, said the man who was shot had been in the park for several days at least.
She identified the man by his first name, Josh.
“I don’t know a lot about his personality. He loves the outdoors. He’s been a member of our community,” she said.
Lacroix said he was not in City Hall Park when the shooting took place, but noted numerous people told him the man shot himself.
Lacroix and Mason said they do not know how the incident will affect the Occupy site.
“This is a crime scene and we are here to cooperate,” he said as a Burlington Police crime investigation van backed into the park.
Mason said there is a real possibility the tents and belongings of people will be removed from the park, but the Occupy Burlington movement will continue in some form.
“We’re not about to stop because of this. We’ll be doing this for Josh. We have to continue this,” Mason said.
Burlington Mayor Bob Kiss said late Thursday afternoon he does not know whether the shooting will affect the city’s policy on the occupation.
“We’re waiting for reports from police and fire,” Kiss said.
City Councilor President Bill Keogh also said no decision has been made yet on the encampment’s future. “I don’t have enough facts to make a decision. I don’t know if it was related to the occupiers or was an isolated incident, so I want more information."
Firearms are not allowed in City Hall Park. Kiss said the shooting raises questions about the easy availability of firearms.
“We need to reflect on guns in Vermont,” he said.
Wednesday night protesters rocked to internationally known gypsy punk musicians from Gogol Bordello. Today protesters are consoling each other.
As of 3:45 p.m., most of the encampment was surrounded by yellow police tape and nobody was being allowed inside to access their tents or belongings.
John Briggs contributed to this report. Contact Matt Sutkoski at 660-1846 or msutkoski@burlingtonfreepress.com. Follow Matt on Twitter at www.twitter.com/vermontweather
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Occupy Atlanta’s Base Tests Positive for Drug-Resistant Tuberculosis Jesse Jackson Spoke at Camp
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/ ^ | November 10 2011 | Jim Hoft
Posted on November 10, 2011 7:16:48 PM EST by Para-Ord.45
The homeless shelter that Occupy Atlanta protesters have been camping out in has been confirmed for housing two cases of drug-resistant tuberculosis. (Spencer Platt/CBS Atlanta)
Jesse Jackson just spoke at the TB camp four days ago.
Public health officials in Atlanta confirmed today that the Occupy Atlanta camp has tested possitive for tuberculosis. CBS Atlanta reported:
The home base for Occupy Atlanta has tested positive for tuberculosis.
The Fulton County Health Department confirmed Wednesday that residents at the homeless shelter where protesters have been occupying have contracted the drug-resistant disease. WGCL reports that a health department spokeswoman said there is a possibility that both Occupy Atlanta protesters and the homeless people in the shelter may still be at risk since tuberculosis is contracted through air contact.
“Over the last three months were have been two persons who have resided in this facility who have been diagnosed with confirmed or suspected infectious tuberculosis (TB),” said Fulton County Services Director Matthew McKenna in a written statement to CBS Atlanta. “One of these persons was confirmed to have a strain of TB that is resistant to a single, standard medication used to treat this condition. All person(s) identified as positive have begun treatment and are being monitored to ensure that medication is taken as directed.”
The Atlanta Task Force for the Homeless has indicated that two cases have been made public knowledge to the group, the first coming from someone who contracted the disease in September. The identities of the people who have contracted the disease, however, have not been disclosed by the health department to this point.
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Protesters withdraw resolution to remain peaceful [Occupy Oakland]
KGO-TV ^ | 11/10/11
Posted on November 10, 2011 8:07:25 PM EST by freespirited
OAKLAND, Calif. (KGO) -- In Oakland, Occupy protesters gathered Wednesday night and voted to withdraw a resolution calling for future demonstrators to remain peaceful.
A small number of the protesters have openly called for the use of violence as a tactic to get their message out. The vote by the group came just hours after Oakland city leaders called for the camp at Frank Ogawa Plaza to shut down immediately.
City officials have also cut off streetlights at the camp as well as a faucet protesters had been using to get water.
Also Thursday, Oakland City Council President Larry Reid told ABC7 News that the council may take a "no confidence" vote for Mayor Jean Quan.
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THE OCCUPIERS: HOW DISGUSTING CAN THEY GET?
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Posted on November 10, 2011 8:30:37 PM EST by chessplayer
One thing we can say for sure is that you do not want to be in the food service business anywhere near the Occupiers. In New York, they have driven the owner of a shop called Panini & Co. Breads, which has the misfortune of being located across the street from Zuccotti Park, to distraction. And she tried to be nice to them:
"A business owner near the Occupy Wall Street encampment claims she has been repeatedly harassed and threatened with bodily harm by protesters after she and her employees refused to give in to their outlandish demands."
“I’ve been told, ‘Watch your back!’ 10 times,” Stacey Tzortzatos, owner of Panini & Co. Breads, located across from Zuccotti Park, told The Post yesterday.
"She and her employees are terrified by the constant threats, which she said began after she demanded the protesters stop using her shop’s restroom as a place to bathe every day."
"The final straw came about two weeks ago, when the demonstrators broke a bathroom sink, flooding the shop, and clogged the toilet — setting her back $3,000 in damages."
"And on Friday, she said, a crazed squatter burst into the shop and demanded that workers fill a 10-gallon container of water."
"When they refused, “he banged it on the ground and started yelling” and threatened the staff, she said. “He said he was entitled to have it for free.”
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City to close down Occupy Portland (Oregon) encampments
KGW.com ^ | 11-10-11 | kgw.com staff
Posted on November 10, 2011 3:59:35 PM EST by Veggie Todd
PORTLAND -- Portland Mayor Sam Adams announced at a Thursday morning press conference that the city will be closing down the Occupy Portland encampments early Sunday.
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Tuberculosis Breaks Out At Occupy Atlanta’s Base
CBS ^ | November 10, 2011 1:55 PM | unattributed
ATLANTA (CBS Atlanta) – The home base for Occupy Atlanta has tested positive for tuberculosis.
The Fulton County Health Department confirmed Wednesday that residents at the homeless shelter where protesters have been occupying have contracted the drug-resistant disease. WGCL reports that a health department spokeswoman said there is a possibility that both Occupy Atlanta protesters and the homeless people in the shelter may still be at risk since tuberculosis is contracted through air contact.
“Over the last three months were have been two persons who have resided in this facility who have been diagnosed with confirmed or suspected infectious tuberculosis (TB),” said Fulton County Services Director Matthew McKenna in a written statement to CBS Atlanta. “One of these persons was confirmed to have a strain of TB that is resistant to a single, standard medication used to treat this condition. All person(s) identified as positive have begun treatment and are being monitored to ensure that medication is taken as directed.”
The Atlanta Task Force for the Homeless has indicated that two cases have been made public knowledge to the group, the first coming from someone who contracted the disease in September. The identities of the people who have contracted the disease, however, have not been disclosed by the health department to this point.
The news of the tuberculosis contractions could force Occupy Atlanta to move once again. WGCL reports that more than 100 protesters made the move to the homeless shelter Oct. 30 after Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed evicted Occupy Atlanta from Woodruff Park, citing that they were no longer allowed to camp out overnight. The homeless shelter is also facing an eviction of its own from the city.
Messages left by CBS Atlanta for Occupy Atlanta and the Atlanta Task Force for the Homeless were not immediately returned.
lmfao!!!!!! LOL!!!!
Oh brother!
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Classy: OWS Defaces 9/11 Memorial
Townhall.com ^ | November 10, 2011 | Kate Hicks
Posted on November 10, 2011 10:12:04 PM EST by Kaslin
I wish I could say I'm surprised, but honestly, I'm not.
Occupy Wall Street -- located mere blocks from the World Trade Center, and consequently, the 9/11 memorial -- has defaced the memorial honoring the thousands who died there ten years ago. As a result of the recent violence, sexual assault, and vandalism, Manhattan's most elite squad of homocide detectives has been assigned to monitor the protesters camped in Zuccotti Park.
The NYPD has moved three elite Manhattan homicide detectives and a deputy chief to the raucous Occupy Wall Street protest in response to a rash of sex attacks, thefts and vandalism -- including graffiti scrawled on the nearby 9/11 Memorial, The Post has learned.
The detectives, who began working cases at the park two weeks ago, are also investigating two acts of vandalism on the 9/11 Memorial.
In the first, a heart was etched near a name on the bronze memorial. Cops suspect the perpetrator may have been a family member of a victim.
And last week, a drawing of a skull was found on the memorial. Both marks were removed.
They have reason to suspect that OWSers are behind the latter instance of vandalism.
When the protests began, the members claimed that their goal was to raise awareness about the plight of the "99%." They said they were doing this for the ordinary Americans harmed by evil Wall Street greed. In a misguided way, they claimed to be patriots.
The "occupiers" actions in recent weeks, however, have put that assertion to bed. Turns out, combatting corporate greed was just a great excuse to throw a party in the streets!
Ordinarily, the unserious behavior exhibited by so many "occupiers" -- the drum circles, the open-air sex, the "human microphone," and "consensus-building-by-twinkles" -- would simply be cause for laughter. But the revelry's gone too far.
Whatever good intentions some of those original "occupiers" may have harbored have been stamped out by crime. Now, there is something maliciously farcical about this protest. What was once a camp-out to "raise awareness" -- albeit of a stance based on false premises -- has become a veritable slum.
The reports of rape, theft, and death illustrate the kind of degenerates that the protest has attracted -- and now, the vandalized 9/11 memorial. I'd be hard-pressed to think of a more disrespectful act toward the innocents who lost their lives in the most brutal attack conducted on American soil.
These "occupiers" hold nothing sacred beyond their own desires. Whatever credibility anyone could have attributed to the "occupation" at its start has long since exhausted itself. Their absurd demands, coupled with their reprehensible behavior, show them for what they really are. Occupy Wall Street is hardly a profound movement calling for necessary social change. It's a kegger gone violently wrong.
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Scam artists going for 'beg' bucks at OWS protest
NY Post ^ | 11/11/11 | ANDY CAMPBELL, HANNAH RAPPLEYE and BOB FREDERICKS
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2011 8:36:37 AM by COUNTrecount
This is one sweet swindle.
Two booze-swilling grifters raked in as much as $200 a day at the Occupy Wall Street protest by taking turns holding the same handwritten sign that read, “Diabetic . . . Need donations for juice and other supplies . . . Please help me . . . My meds are expensive.”
“Stop taking pictures! Stop taking pictures!” one snarled before folding up the cardboard sign and skulking away.
Legitimate protesters called the con one of many scams turning squalid Zuccotti Park into a beggar’s banquet and said the number of panhandlers hassling passers-by for cash has skyrocketed in the past few days.
Some of the panhandlers themselves admit they spend their profits on food and booze instead of “the movement.”
“You walk through and every camp has a bucket. They use the money for anything,” admitted Army vet Patrick Koller, 24, who is a panhandler himself.
He asks for cash donations at the park’s “dog station” for food and veterinary care for protesters’ pets -- but he confessed to shaving a generous share off the top of the up to $150 a day he takes in.
“I take about 25 percent and put it in my pocket and buy food, water, et cetera. The rest goes to the dog station,” he said.
Another panhandler said he’s seen colleagues keep the cash for themselves, but he insisted his own panhandling operation was for the good of the park.
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Actual protesters say they’re at their wits’ end.
“I tell them, ‘Hey, there’s free food, cigarettes, blankets, medical. Why do you need money?’ ” fumed protester, Michael Rodriguez, 24, of The Bronx.
“Unless you’re collecting donations for a working group, I don’t want to see it.”
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Occupy SF accused of Ferry Building thefts, filth
San Francisco Examiner ^ | November 10, 2011 | Mike Aldax
Ferry Building merchants and managers are fed up with the mayhem that has come with the nearby Occupy SF encampment.
A spike in shoplifting, break-ins and reports of abandoned human waste — and a reported drop in foot traffic — has management fuming about the Justin Herman Plaza encampment. There even are reports of occupiers using the building’s restrooms as washrooms — with folks taking sponge baths from toilets.
And last Monday, eight men were allegedly escorted out of the building after they attempted to use the bathrooms wearing nothing but their boxer shorts.
Property manager Jane Connors has written two letters to The City, one sent Nov. 1 and the other sent Monday. In both, she highlighted merchant complaints and asked police to increase their presence at the building. But that hasn’t happened.
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Man found dead in tent at Pioneer Park
By ksl.comNovember 11th, 2011 @ 10:49am
SALT LAKE CITY -- A dead body was found in a tent at Pioneer Park Friday morning.
The body was identified as a male member of the Occupy SLC group, but Salt Lake City police officers are saying it is not suspicious, but the cause is unknown.
A medical examiner is on the way to the scene.
More details will be provided when they become available.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=1070&sid=18042323&title=man-found-dead-in-tent-at-pioneer-park
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Protesters Coming Down With the "Zuccotti Lung"
Park conditions put demonstrators at risk for variety of sicknesses, officials say.Friday, Nov 11, 2011 | Updated 10:53 AM ESTView Comments (90)
advertisement With wintry weather poised to swoop into the cramped outdoor quarters of Occupy Wall Street protesters, it may not be long before more campers catch what's being called "Zuccotti lung."
That's what demonstrators have dubbed the sickness that seems to be spreading among them at an unpleasantly high rate these days: "It's a real thing," Willie Carey, 28, told the New York Times.
With little sleep in cold conditions, cigarettes and drinks being passed from mouth to mouth, and few opportunities to wash hands, Zuccotti Park may now just be the best place to catch respiratory viruses, norovirus (also known as the winter vomiting virus) and tuberculosis, according to one doctor.
The damp clothing and cardboard signs wet with rain are also breeding grounds for mold. Some protesters are urinating in bottles and leaving food trash discarded throughout the campground, providing further opportunities for nastiness.
“Pretty much everything here is a good way to get sick,” Salvatore Cipolla, 23, from Long Island, told the Times. “It’ll definitely thin the herd.”
Street Protest More Multimedia Some protesters have refused free flu shots, citing a "government conspiracy," the Times said.
There is also the increased risk among the encampment of sexually transmitted diseases, said the doctor, Dr. Philip M. Tierno, Jr. of the NYU Langone Medical Center. And the site's pounding circles could lead to hearing damage.
Tierno compared conditions at the park to the pilgrimage to Mecca, in which entire groups of people have come down with respiratory infections in short period of time, and the communal compounds of the 1960s where sanitation problems and STDs cropped up.
The health department has visited the site and is monitoring.
“It should go without saying that lots of people sleeping outside in a park as we head toward winter is not an ideal situation for anyone’s health,” the department said in a statement.
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Zuccotti-Lung-Park-Sickness-Demonstrators-Protesters-Illness-133669113.html?dr
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I hope that moron gets eaten by large rats.
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Jay-Z Selling Occupy Wall Street T-Shirts; No Plans to Share Profits With Protestors
The Hollywood Reporter ^ | 11/10/11 | THR Staff
Jay-Z Selling Occupy Wall Street T-Shirts; No Plans to Share Profits With Protestors
A Rocawear rep says there is not an "official commitment to monetarily support the movement," which is taking a stand against corporate greed and corruption.
Jay-Z is releasing a new line of T-shirts in support of the Occupy Wall Street movement Friday via his Rocawear clothing label, but he doesn't plan to share any of the profits with the protesters.
The rapper was recently seen wearing one of the shirts, which tweaks the phrase "Occupy Wall Street" by crossing out the "W" and adding an "S" to make it read "Occupy All Streets."
The protests, which started Sept. 17 in New York, have since spread to Los Angeles and other cities as demonstrators protest corporate greed and corruption.
The Business Insider noted the "irony" in that Jay-Z has no intention to distribute any of the proceeds to protestors.
A Rocawear spokesperson told the publication: "The 'Occupy All Streets' T-shirt was created in support of the 'Occupy Wall Street' movement. Rocawear strongly encourages all forms of constructive expression, whether it be artistic, political or social. 'Occupy All Streets' is our way of reminding people that there is change to be made everywhere, not just on Wall Street. At this time we have not made an official commitment to monetarily support the movement."
But one of the movement's most high-profile supporters, music mogul Russell Simmons -- who has attended Occupy protests and has sent many tweets expressing his views on the matter -- touted the T-shirt on Twitter earlier this week.
"Love Jay-Z's t-shirt," he wrote, tweeting a link to a photo posted on his GlobalGrind website. "Glad i got mine today."
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LMFAO!
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Epic Irony... Awesome.
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LOL @ "Occupy Babies", 7 or 8 months from now, when you see all these hippies with no jobs or health insurance showing up with babies.
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Calif. Mayor Chooses Occupy Rally Over Veterans Day Memorial
The Blaze ^ | Movember 11, 2011 | Madeleine Morgenstern
The mayor of Richmond, Calif. plans to skip her city’s Veterans Day memorial events to attend an Occupy rally, a choice that’s prompting anger and criticism.
Mayor Gayle McLaughlin will miss a Veterans Day salute Friday in favor of an Occupy Richmond “public speak out,” the San Jose Mercury News reported.
McLaughlin defended her decision, telling the newspaper that the city is not sponsoring the Veterans Day event, and the rally she will attend will honor Scott Olsen, the Iraq war veteran injured at an Occupy Oakland rally last month. Richmond and Oakland, both in the San Francisco Bay Area, are about 12 miles apart.
“I choose to honor our veterans, not only on Veteran’s Day, but daily, by supporting an end to military warfare to prevent further fighting and dying in needless wars,” she said in an email. “I am a strong supporter of Veterans for Peace and Iraq Vets Against the War.”
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2 deaths at Occupy protests in California and Vermont [ Death,disease,rape & theft= Occupy]
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | Nov 11 2011 | AP
Police are investigating a fatal shooting just outside the Occupy Oakland encampment in Northern California and the apparent suicide of a military veteran at an Occupy encampment in Vermont’s largest city.
The Oakland killing is further straining relations between local officials and anti-Wall Street protesters. A preliminary investigation into the gunfire Thursday that left a man dead suggests it resulted from a fight between two groups of men at or near the camp on a plaza in front of Oakland’s City Hall, police Chief Howard Jordan said.
Investigators do not yet know if the men in the fight were associated with Occupy Oakland, but they are looking into reports that some protest participants tried to break up the altercation, Jordan said.
Burlington, Vt., police said preliminary investigations show a 35-year-old military veteran fatally shot himself in the head Thursday at an Occupy Wall Street encampment. The name of the Chittenden County man is being withheld because not all of his family has been notified.
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Oregon Police Fear 'Occupy' Protesters Arming Themselves for Looming Confrontation
Associated Press, via FoxNews.com ^ | November 11, 2011 | AP
Posted on November 12, 2011 9:38:10 AM EST by ETL
PORTLAND, Ore. – Portland police believe that some protesters inside the Occupy Portland encampments are building shields and makeshift weapons -- including nails hammered into wood -- in preparation for when authorities attempt to clear the parks this weekend, police said Friday.
Occupy Portland organizers have repeatedly said the movement is nonviolent and have appealed to demonstrators to resist peacefully when the camps close at midnight on Saturday. They planned public marches and a potluck dinner before the deadline and hoped the public would take part.
But police said as many as 150 anarchists may come to Portland to take part in a possible clash with officers.
"If there are anarchists, if there are weapons, if there is an intention to engage in violence and confrontation, that obviously raises our concerns," Portland police Lt. Robert King said. "But I know we'll be able work through that and manage that, because we want to protect everyone there, especially the peaceful protester."
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Bail Set at $1 Million for Occupy Portland World Trade Center Firebomber (Video)
Gateway Pundit ^ | November 12,2011 | Jim Hoft
Posted on November 12, 2011 3:34:36 PM EST by Hojczyk
KGW reported:
Bail for a man inside the Occupy Portland camp Wednesday on accusations related to a Tuesday Molotov cocktail fire was raised to $1 million by a judge Thursday.
David Hodson, 29, was arraigned on first-degree arson, manufacturing a destructive device, possession of an explosive device and second-degree criminal mischief charges.
The accusations also include vandalism to the Smart Park garage at 123 SW Jefferson, according to Portland Fire Bureau spokesman Paul Corah.
Hodson was also arrested Sunday on a reckless burning charge for trash fires that were started near the Occupy Portland encampments at Lownsdale and Chapman Square parks, according to Fire Bureau, Corah said.
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So what does more deaths mean? Anyone?
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Calif. Mayor Chooses Occupy Rally Over Veterans Day Memorial
The Blaze ^ | Movember 11, 2011 | Madeleine Morgenstern
The mayor of Richmond, Calif. plans to skip her city’s Veterans Day memorial events to attend an Occupy rally, a choice that’s prompting anger and criticism.
Mayor Gayle McLaughlin will miss a Veterans Day salute Friday in favor of an Occupy Richmond “public speak out,” the San Jose Mercury News reported.
McLaughlin defended her decision, telling the newspaper that the city is not sponsoring the Veterans Day event, and the rally she will attend will honor Scott Olsen, the Iraq war veteran injured at an Occupy Oakland rally last month. Richmond and Oakland, both in the San Francisco Bay Area, are about 12 miles apart.
“I choose to honor our veterans, not only on Veteran’s Day, but daily, by supporting an end to military warfare to prevent further fighting and dying in needless wars,” she said in an email. “I am a strong supporter of Veterans for Peace and Iraq Vets Against the War.”
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Does not surprise me.
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Woman raped at occupy Philadelphia
abcnews ^ | 11/12/2011 | ABC NEWS
Posted on November 13, 2011 7:42:41 PM EST
A woman protester at the Occupy Philadelphia encampment at City Hall was raped in a tent, allegedly by a man who had traveled from out of state to join the protest, police said.
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Another one!
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(Marine) Ex-cop boots OWS heckler from congressman's swearing-in
NY Post ^ | November 14, 2011 | FRANK ROSARIO, DOUG AUER and BOB FREDERICKS
Meet New York’s newest hero.
Kevin Hiltunen, a former NYPD officer, yesterday grabbed an Occupy Wall Street demonstrator by the collar and dragged him out of a Queens school where he’d been heckling US Rep. Bob Turner at the congressman’s swearing-in ceremony.
“I guess you could say I sorted him out,” said Hiltunen, 48, his jacket and tie barely mussed after dragging the scruffy protester out on his rear end.
“All I was doing was trying to stop this historic occasion from being disrupt-ed. There is a time and place to exercise your First Amendment rights,’’ said Hiltunen, of Bergen Beach, Brooklyn, who was identified by people at the ceremony as an ex-Marine.
“This was not the time or the venue,” Hiltunen added.
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Occupy Wall Street costs local businesses $479,400!
NY Post ^ | November 13, 2011 | CANDICE M. GIOVE
The Occupy Wall Street movement has cost surrounding businesses $479,400 so far, store owners said.
A Post survey of a dozen restaurants, jewelry shops, beauty salons, a chain store and mom-and-pop establishments tallied almost a half-million dollars lost in the 53 days since the Zuccotti Park siege began on Sept. 17.
“We’re done with them!” barked one Broadway business owner. The restaurateur -- who requested anonymity for fear of reprisals -- said his profits drained as soon as campers moved in.
“My customers used to take food to eat in the park, but now they can’t,” he lamented.
With clogged streets, aggressive signs and stories of predators and criminals lurking among the knot of protesters, business owners and managers say shoppers are not taking the risk of coming to the area.
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Hit the Dollar store and pick up $1000 worth of deoderant, t-shirts, TP, soap, caffeine pills, and junk food.
Get a shopping cart and walk around these feces camps all day selling these items for double the price.
Repeat daily. Earn $1000 daily.
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NYPD raiders roust OWS rabble (“We’re gonna disinfect the hell out of this place.”)
NY Post ^ | 11/15/11 | FRANK ROSARIO, ERIN CALABRESE and LARRY CELONA
Posted on November 15, 2011 6:55:44 AM EST by jimbo123
Good riddance!
The NYPD arrested 70 protesters as they moved in on Zuccotti Park early this morning and began clearing out the thousands of Occupy Wall Street protesters who had taken over the space for nearly two months.
More than 1,000 cops marched on the lower Manhattan encampment shortly before 1 a.m. and handed out fliers ordering demonstrators to get out and remove their personal property.
The cops were followed by Sanitation workers, one of whom was overheard saying, “We’re gonna disinfect the hell out of this place.”
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=397253.0;attach=441452;image)
That is an awesome pic.
Doesn't the "protestor" look a little bit like Rob? 240 with longer hair, beard and mustache would look just like him.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/judge-backs-city-ban-occupy-wall-street-protesters-tents-zuccotti-article-1.977674
Good. Clean out these vermin.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/judge-backs-city-ban-occupy-wall-street-protesters-tents-zuccotti-article-1.977674
Good. Clean out these vermin.
Only 50 yrs old and she's already retired? Yeah, life here must sooo fucking bad. ::)
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Only 50 yrs old and she's already retired? Yeah, life here must sooo fucking bad. ::)
My word, the nerve of these oppressed people. Doesn't she know she could have done the same thing at 35 in Europe?
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My word, the nerve of these oppressed people. Doesn't she know she could have done the same thing at 35 in Europe?
LMFAO. Bitch probably found that out and that's why she's down there protesting.
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Conditions just ‘offal’ (NYC sanitation workers shocked by disgusting Zuccotti refuse...)
NY Post ^ | 11/16/11 | REBECCA ROSENBERG and DAN MANGAN
Posted on November 16, 2011 7:21:42 AM EST by jimbo123
City sanitation workers yesterday were forced to pick through a filthy pile of property seized from Zuccotti Park including dirty hypodermic needles, moldy food and glass-littered, broken gadgets.
“I pick up garbage [for a living], and these were some of the worst smells I’ve ever experienced,’’ one worker grumbled to The Post.
About 150 trashmen stuffed the massive pile of soiled tents, old bikes and spoiling food into dump trucks — 26 loads in all — and hauled it to a West 57th Street Sanitation facility so that workers could begin sorting the personal goods from garbage.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=397253.0;attach=441452;image)
That is an awesome pic.
Doesn't the "protestor" look a little bit like Rob? 240 with longer hair, beard and mustache would look just like him.
hahahahah!
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Someone was murdered at Occupy Wall Street?
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Someone was murdered at Occupy Wall Street?
There was a murder in Oakland I believe.
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So OWS = Murder would be inaccurate.. correct?
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So OWS = Murder would be inaccurate.. correct?
OWS was the flagship name that this mess started under.
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Maxine Waters on Deaths and Crimes at Occupy Protests: ‘That’s Life and It Happens’
CNSNews ^ | November 16, 2011 | Edwin Mora
Video at link.
(CNSNews.com) - When asked to comment Wednesday about the deaths and crimes that have occurred around Occupy protests being held across the country, Rep. Maxine Waters said “that’s life and it happens.”
“That’s a distraction from the goals of the protesters,” Waters, who says she supports the Occupy movement, told CNSNews.com after an event at the Capitol sponsored by the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
“Let me just say this: Anytime you have a gathering, homeless people are going to show up,” said Waters. “They will find some comfort in having some other people out on the streets with them. They’re looking for food. Often times, the criminal element will invade. That’s life and it happens, whether it’s with protesters or other efforts that go on in this country.
“So I’m not deterred in my support for them because of these negative kinds of things,” said Waters. “I just want them to work at doing the best job that they can do to bring attention to this economic crisis and the unfairness of the system at this time.”
The Associated Press reported that there have been at least three deaths recently at or near Occupy encampments. A man was shot and killed near the scene of the Occupy camp in Oakland, Calif. A man reportedly shot himself at the Occupy camp in Burlington, Vt. And a man was discovered dead in a tent at the Salt Lake City, Utah, Occupy camp.
At the Occupy L.A. site—in the city where Rep. Waters' congressional district is located—five people have been charged with crimes, according to the Los Angeles Times. These include a man who allegedly exposed himself and masturbated in the presence of children.
In contrast to her support of the Occupy movement, Rep. Waters has been sharply criticial of the Tea Party movement. In August, according to the Washington Post, she said, “As far as I’m concerned, the ‘Tea Party’ can go straight to hell.”
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LMAO!!!
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title say murder not deaths ???
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title say murder not deaths ???
A man was shot and killed near the scene of the Occupy camp in Oakland,
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they still don't know if it was related to occupy camp in oakland
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A man was shot and killed near the scene of the Occupy camp in Oakland,
THAT AINT WALL STREET.. AS THE TITLE STATES
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THAT AINT WALL STREET.. AS THE TITLE STATES
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GMAFB tool.
The entire movement is known as OWS
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GMAFB tool.
The entire movement is known as OWS
still no murder ???
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still no murder ???
Do you know something i don't? Was it self defense? manslaughter?
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Do you know something i don't? Was it self defense? manslaughter?
it happened outside the site and they don't know if it had anything to do with the movement.so don't play dumb aahh nevermind :D
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it happened outside the site and they don't know if it had anything to do with the movement.so don't play dumb aahh nevermind :D
I have read otherwise.
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post your sources
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http://news.investors.com/Article/592240/201111181805/occupy-wall-street-general-electric-tax-keystone-obama-block-jobs-99.htm
Bingo.
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New Occupy plot: Flash mobs. ‘Alternative forms of protest’ put cities, cops at disadvantage
Expose Occupy Wallstreet ^ | 11 / 20 2011 | Aaron Klein
Posted on November 20, 2011 2:41:00 PM EST by tutstar
The Occupy movement is stepping up its confrontational tactics, plotting “alternative forms of protest,” including flash mobs that can be deployed nationwide.
Citing the success of last week’s so-called Day of Action protests, Take to the Square, one of Occupy’s main online planning forums, has devised an “Alternative Day of Action” to coincide with international Human Rights Day on Dec. 10.
“Our freedom and dignity are under attack as a result of market dynamics and corrupt government institutions that are turning our local and global societies into increasingly unjust places,” the site complains.
The Occupy forum calls for “alternative forms of protest” and “new forms of action with a creative spirit.”
Among the proposed actions: “We can organize public forums, workshops and flash-mobs; we can promote the movement at local schools and neighborhoods or get in contact with humanitarian organizations working with the same goals.”
A flash mob refers to a group of people who assemble suddenly in a public place to perform a collective act and then disperse.
While flash mobs have been organized in the past for entertainment purposes, such as for satire or live television shows, recently the concept has also been used for criminal intent.
Flash mobs of mostly teenagers have reportedly attacked random targets in Philadelphia, Maryland, Cleveland, Chicago, and Washington, D.C. Philadelphia’s recently reelected mayor, Michael Nutter, imposed strict curfews in response to the incidents.
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Great friggin site. exposing these commies.
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OWS Officially Declares 9/11 an "Inside Job" (With Video)
Pundit Press ^ | 11/20/11 | Aurelius
Posted on November 20, 2011 10:49:31 AM EST by therightliveswithus
If you needed any more evidence that Occupy Wall Street was a bunch of scumbags, here it is. Yesterday, OWS held a "September 11th Truth March," dedicated to forcing the government to investigate the terrorist attacks of 9/11.
I will not dignify these conspiracy theorists with a long response. Thousands of witnesses, thousands of experts, and hundreds of scientific articles all speak for themselves. The fact of the matter is that this impossibly stupid march once again shows OWS to be a group of delusional weirdos...
You can watch the video and both see and listen a fair-sized group of OWS nuts screaming, "9/11 was an inside job!"
This was an OWS-sanctioned march which (guess what) makes this imbecilic stance an official platform of the "Occupiers." More than just this, however, are the hundreds of comments on Twitter of the insane conspiracy. Here are just a few:
"Bizarre:"
Israel:
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Generation Mutant: Occupiers are the Natural Spawn of the Progressive Movement
Townhall.com ^ | November 20, 2011 | Derek Hunter
Posted on November 20, 2011 10:06:22 AM EST by Kaslin
Watching the “Occupy Wall Street” mutants (as I less-than-affectionately call them) riot on Thursday as part of their “Day of Action,” I couldn’t help but notice a striking resemblance to children throwing temper tantrums. And I couldn’t help but think: Why would adults act this way?
The “occupiers” are the post-digested remains of the natural journey through the intestinal tract of the metastasizing liberal ideology in education and pop culture.
The “millennials,” as they’re called, are the first generation spawned from the “progressive” idea of equal outcome disguised as equal opportunity. They are the “Participation Ribbon People” – a generation rewarded and praised simply for showing up. The result of social promotion, time-outs over spanking and the misguided concept that reward is deserved and not earned.
The movies, books and music these kids devoured portrayed business as evil and CEOs as thieves in suits whose wealth comes not from hard work but by exploiting the poor or selling dangerous and defective products to an unsuspecting population.
This generation grew up with “reality TV,” which is not, of course, realistic at all. It measures success as drinking more beers before you vomit than the next guy. A sex tape brings not embarrassment but celebrity status.
It might have seemed as if these children of entitlement treated rioting as an audition for the Jersey Shore, but they weren’t – although MTV was at Zuccotti Park recruiting candidates for “The Real World.”
The only thing more prevalent among the “occupiers” than body lice is their sense of entitlement. They’re entitled to forgiveness of the college loans they willingly took out. They can trespass on private property and stay as long as they like. They claim to represent the “99 percent” of the country not among the wealthiest 1 percent. But do they?
Unfazed by their unpopularity – the latest poll by the liberal group Public Policy Polling puts their support at 33% support – these parasites covered with parasites dare refer to their inability to camp overnight on private property as “Facing the most brutal assault on our Democracy since 9-11.” Ironically, they do this while ignoring actual assaults, rapes, sexual assaults and murder amongst their ranks.
Their world is one in which an unrepentant domestic terrorist is called “Professor” and is friends with the President of the United States, dodgeball is banned for “brutality” and kids picking on each other is criminalized. Self-esteem is their goal. They don’t intend to earn it through hard work and accomplishment. No, they want it given out like scoops of ice cream at a birthday party. The way it’s always been.
Nothing undermines civil society more than the belief that every thought is correct, that every desire should be fulfilled. It doesn’t work that way, of course. And when people discover their every whim won’t be met, they find scapegoats.
Zuccotti Park has been filled with people who’ve been coddled their whole lives, who’ve never been told they’re wrong, who’ve been raised to pursue feeling over logic. They’re being confronted with an uncertain future, and its doubly scary for them because they never have been allowed to face the consequences of failure.
They’ve been encased in an emotional bubble-wrap that protected them from reality until graduation. They’ve never truly faced failure. They got a ribbon or trophy every time. Now, suddenly, someone won’t hire them or promote them or give them a good apartment at a low price. What’s worse, someone else did get that job, that promotion. That someone must have cheated.
Thankfully, few in the Ribbon Generation have been successfully indoctrinated, which is why the protests have been so small. But the indoctrination continues, every day. Every day, more children are led to believe fulfillment of their constitutional rights means it’s OK to deny others of theirs.
The current attempt by progressives to impose their will on America is doomed to failure. It’s stupid to think you can bring people to your cause by obstructing their movements or annoying them in the public square. But progressives are patient and determined. The know one day the Participation Ribbon Generation will have children of their own. And those children won’t find counter-indoctrination examples at home many children have now.
President Reagan said, “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
If there is any good to come from the “Occupy” movement it’s that it can serve as a reminder of how special and important liberty is. After all, if a tiny group of committed Utopian socialists can’t create a tiny socialist Utopia when it’s just them in a park, where is this notion likely to succeed?
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Occupy protester busted with handgun and ammo, in more arrests at Zuccotti
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Posted on November 20, 2011 5:40:26 PM EST by Sub-Driver
Occupy protester busted with handgun and ammo, in more arrests at Zuccotti
By REBECCA HARSHBARGER and BOB FREDERICKS
Last Updated: 4:40 PM, November 20, 2011
Posted: 3:17 PM, November 20, 2011
The Occupy Wall Street protest could have been one bad temper away from turning lethal.
Cops busted a man from Youngstown, Ohio this weekend for driving around the OWS protest and Lower Manhattan with an unregistered gun.
Law enforcement said Joshua Fellows, 32, had a .45-calibre handgun and 32 rounds of ammunition in a truck he’d rented in North Carolina.
Fellows was originally busted on Thursday at 12:40 p.m. at Broadway and Exchange Place on a reckless driving charge after cops saw up to 40 people jumping in and out of the Budget rental truck
They seized the truck and found the gun during a search, and found Fellows Saturday at 9:10 p.m. at West Street and Rector Place.
He was charged with criminal possession of a weapon, arraigned, and was later released.
In all police arrested five people during the weekend, including Fellows, a protester who threw liquid in a cop’s face and another alleged groper for attacking a woman, cops said today.
On Saturday, Zach Breur, 22, allegedly groped the breasts and buttocks of a 22-year-old woman. He was charged with two counts of forcible touching.
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Man throws aluminum water bottle at UC Berkeley student’s face (for NOT joining OWS protest)
The Daily Californian ^ | Updated Sunday, November 20 | Stephanie Baer
Posted on November 20, 2011 8:30:38 PM EST by DogByte6RER
Man throws aluminum water bottle at UC Berkeley student’s face
A man threw an aluminum water bottle at a UC Berkeley student Thursday evening on campus, causing minor injuries to the victim’s face.
At about 5:09 p.m., the female student was approached by a man at “the northeast exterior of the Haas Pavilion,” according to a UCPD crime alert. The man asked the student if she was going to the protest on Sproul Plaza, and when the victim answered “no,” the suspect yelled at her.
“People like you are the reason that California is in debt,” he said, according to the crime alert.
The suspect then threw a full aluminum water bottle at the victim’s face. The victim then called UCPD and refused medical treatment for the bruise on her cheek. UCPD officers responded to the scene and checked the area, but could not locate the suspect.
The suspect was described as a white or Hispanic male in his early 20s, wearing a brown and green knit cap with earflaps and strings, a black coat and dark pants.
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Paramedics called to Occupy Eugene for alleged heroin overdose
KMTR ^ | 11/20/11 | Chris McKee
Posted on November 20, 2011 5:58:23 PM EST by Libloather
Paramedics called to Occupy Eugene for alleged heroin overdose
Reported by: Chris McKee
EUGENE, Ore. (KMTR) - Tense moments for Occupy Eugene protesters Saturday afternoon when police and paramedics were called for a reported heroin overdose.
**SNIP**
Protesters say two occupiers may have helped save the man's life. A registered nurse and a doctor came to the man’s aid shortly after he passed out, giving him CPR before on-duty paramedics arrived.
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Occupy Oakland Calls For Shutdown Of ALL West Coast Ports
CNS News ^ | 11/19/2011 | Dan Gainor
Posted on November 20, 2011 8:56:30 PM EST by Just4Him
Vandalism, violence, burning and shutting down the nation’s fifth busiest port weren’t enough for Occupy Oakland. On Friday, the General Assembly for the group voted unanimously for “a coordinated shutdown of ports on the entire West Coast on December 12."
According to a statement from Occupy Oakland, this move is in “response to coordinated attacks on the occupations and attacks on workers across the nation.” “We call on each West Coast occupation to organize a mass mobilization to shut down its local port.”
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How Gross!… HAZMAT Called in to Remove 200 POUNDS OF FECES Near #Occupy Santa Cruz Squatters Camp
Gateway Pundit ^ | 11/20/20111 | Jim Hoft
Posted on November 21, 2011 12:16:35 AM EST by Just4Him
How Freaking Gross— The Occupy Santa Cruz squatters are not only suffering from a ringworm and scabies problem… Hazmat officials were called in to remove 200 pounds of feces from a lot near the #Occupy Santa Cruz squatter camp.
On November 15 the Occupy Santa Cruz website announced that the members had provided its own portable toilet and handwashing station and soon would be placing more toilets in the park itself (photo by Alex Darocy)
There’s a whole lot of squatting going on at Camp Poopstock Santa Cruz. Verum Serum posted on this disturbing report from the Mercury Times:
This week, two portable restrooms were installed in the park to supplement the one on Water Street since October, Pleich said.
“I think a lot of those sanitation issues came before the portable restrooms,” Pleich said. He added that there are hand-washing stations.
“We’re doing everything we can to ameliorate this problem,” Pleich said.
Protesters had asked city leaders to keep bathrooms in San Lorenzo Park open overnight. A permit unilaterally issued by the city earlier this month required that protesters install two more portable toilets.
Shauna Gunderson, another Occupy member, said the new restrooms, “put to rest the city’s largely exaggerated claims around sanitation.”
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Occupy feces [70 dump-truck loads needed to clean up "Occupy Portland"]
The Charleston Daily Mail / The Associated Press ^ | November 21, 2011 | Don Surber
Posted on November 21, 2011 10:52:21 PM EST by 2ndDivisionVet
It was in jest two months ago when I began calling the Occupy crowd “dirt smelly hippies.” Sadly, the phrase is now accurate. In Portland, Oregon, the city shutdown two parks for two weeks to clean up after these pigs left. 70 dump-truck loads of trash were hauled away. Now in Santa Cruz, California, Occupy Santa Cruz protesters left behind 200 pounds worth of human feces near the Veterans Memorial Building, a community center. Occupy San Francisco had a similar problem with the Ferry Building as these animals are too stupid and uncivilized to act as if they are potty trained.
Paragraphs 13 and 14 of the San Jose Mercury-News report on the mess Occupy Santa Cruz left behind: “At least one incident on the county list wasn’t noted by the Sheriff’s Office: the discovery of an estimated 200 pounds of human feces near the county Veterans Memorial Building...
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those UC Davis OWS jerks are very media saavy.
SIlence as the UC Chancellor walked.
Sitting in the park in a completely non-threatening way, getting maced.
Seriously, if a cop maced me, I'm coming back with everything I've got. Particulary if I'm sitting on the ground in a public park, and get issued tha that kind of pain... sheeit...
How they were able to keep their cool with all that pain, I don't know. Crazy.
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Occupy Boston accused of racism by own offshoot
Source: Metro Boston
A member of Occupy the Hood Boston, an activist group focused on social inequities in urban communities, said the group formally separated from Occupy Boston.
Community activist Jamal Crawford said elements such as “racism and white privilege” have been “hindrances to forward progress,” in an e-mail he sent to occupiers, demanding certain things change. “I can’t say all of OB is racist or OB itself is racist we witnessed and experienced white privilege and racism,” he said.
Last week, Crawford sent the “demands” to garner support for OTHB.
Demands to Occupy Boston
1. Establish a day dedicated to people of color.
2. Occupy Boston must clean itself up and establish order.
3. $2,000 donation from Occupy Boston to expand outreach.
Read more: http://www.metro.us/boston/local/article/1030829--occup...
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..Occupy protests cost nation's cities at least $13M
By MEGHAN BARR and RYAN J. FOLEY | AP – 20 hrs ago.........Related Content.
NEW YORK (AP) — During the first two months of the nationwide Occupy protests, the movement that is demanding more out of the wealthiest Americans cost local taxpayers at least $13 million in police overtime and other municipal services, according to a survey by The Associated Press.
The heaviest financial burden has fallen upon law enforcement agencies tasked with monitoring marches and evicting protesters from outdoor camps. And the steepest costs by far piled up in New York City and Oakland, Calif., where police clashed with protesters on several occasions.
The AP gathered figures from government agencies in 18 cities with active protests and focused on costs through Nov. 15, the day protesters were evicted from New York City's Zuccotti Park, where the protests began Sept. 17 before spreading nationwide. The survey did not attempt to tally the price of all protests but provides a glimpse of costs to cities large and small.
Broken down city by city, the numbers are more or less in line with the cost of policing major public events and emergencies. In Los Angeles, for example, the Michael Jackson memorial concert cost the city $1.4 million. And Atlanta spent several million dollars after a major snow and ice storm this year.
But the price of the protests is rising by the day — along with taxpayer ire in some places.
"What is their real agenda?" asked Rodger Mawhinney as he watched police remove an encampment outside his apartment complex in downtown Oakland. "I've gone up and asked them, 'What are you truly trying to accomplish?' I'm still waiting for an answer."
The Occupy movement has intentionally never clarified its policy objectives, relying instead on a broad message opposing corporate excess and income inequality. Aside from policing, cleaning and repairing property at dozens of 24-hour encampments, cities have had to monitor frequent rallies and protests.
The spending comes as cash-strapped police departments have cut overtime budgets, travel and training to respond to the recession. Nonetheless, city officials say they have no choice but to bring in extra officers or hold officers past their shifts to handle gatherings and marches in a way that protects free speech rights and public safety. In some cities, officials say the spending is eating into their overtime budgets and leaving less money for other public services.
Protesters blame excessive police presence for the high costs in some places. And they note the cost has been minimal in other cities, and worth the spending because they have raised awareness about what they call corporate greed and the growing inequality between rich and poor.
"We're here fighting corporate greed and they're worried about a lawn?" said Clark Davis of Occupy Los Angeles, where the city estimates that property damage to a park has been $200,000.
In Oakland, where protesters temporarily forced the shutdown of a major port, the city has spent more than $2.4 million responding to the protests. The cash-strapped city, which had to close a $58 million budget gap this year, was already facing an uphill battle when Occupy Oakland began Oct. 10.
"The cost of the encampments is growing and putting a strain on our already fragile resources — police, public works, and other city staff," said Mayor Jean Quan. "We will continue to be vigilant and ensure that public safety remains our first priority and that our downtown businesses are protected from vandalism. We will not tolerate lodging on public property, whether in parks or open space. It is illegal."
Sgt. Dom Arotzarena, president of the Oakland Police Officers Association, said Occupy-related costs will soar past $3 million when it's all said and done. The city, he said, had to pay more for mutual aid when police removed the encampment at City Hall for a second time on Nov. 14, nearly three weeks after its first early morning raid, leading to dozens of arrests.
"A lot of this could've been avoided if we stood our ground when we went in there in the first place," Arotzarena said. "I know we would've saved the city a significant amount of money."
Portland, Ore., has spent a total of about $785,000 — much of that in police overtime when officers enforced the mayor's order to evict protesters from two downtown parks because of concerns about sanitation and public safety. Randy Leonard, a city commissioner and former firefighter, said he thinks the protest could have cost the city much more if not for a restrained police response.
"The amount of money we're saving by (our) very strategic response versus sending police out en masse to arrest people and cause confrontations dwarfs whatever we've spent so far," Leonard said.
In New York City, the police department has spent $7 million in overtime on the protests. But that's small change given the department's $4.5 billion budget, which allots money for emergency overtime. Last year, the NYPD spent about $550 million on overtime.
"Public safety and providing essential services is what we do. So the first thing we're going to do is handle the situation, and any situation that comes up," Deputy Mayor Cas Holloway said. "So yes, this has been significant and it's been going on for many days, but really in the broad scheme of things, it's not something that we aren't prepared to deal with."
Pete Dutro, a protester in charge of finances in New York City, called the NYPD's response "completely unnecessary."
"It's $7 million of taxpayers' money that's being spent to stifle our First Amendment rights," he said. "You know, they've consistently overreacted."
In Seattle, where the National Guard was deployed during the 1999 World Trade Organization protests, the mayor has publicly supported the Occupy protesters. But that doesn't mean taxpayers won't feel the pinch later on; the city has already spent at least $625,000 on the protests, with the police department taking the bulk of the costs.
"These costs are currently being absorbed by the departments and may result in reduced service levels in other areas in the future," said Julie Moore, a spokeswoman for Mayor Mike McGinn. She did not specify which public services might suffer.
Other cities were not too concerned about mounting costs, with officials saying they budget for events like these.
"Our view is that unexpected things happen," said Sonji Jacobs, spokeswoman for Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed. "Occupy Atlanta is something that folks didn't necessarily see coming, but the good news is that we have flexibility in our budget."
Overall, the city spent nearly $652,000 on the protests, paying for everything from overtime for police officers and firefighters to running its mobile command center. The city has $56 million in its reserve fund.
Costs were far lower in Boston than City Council President Stephen Murphy initially predicted last month, when he said police costs for providing security at Occupy Boston for October would be as high as $2 million, based on what a police commander at the scene of mass arrests told him.
The city of Boston has spent $575,000 in overtime through mid-November to pay officers policing Occupy Boston. That's about 2 percent of this year's $30 million police overtime budget.
"We have a history of starting, as well as managing, historic demonstrations," said City Councilor Michael Ross. "We've done it well and we've managed it well, and that's not going to stop anytime soon, and that doesn't cease to exist after it hits a certain budget threshold."
St. Louis; Des Moines, Iowa; Providence, R.I.; and Burlington, Vt., were among the cities surveyed by AP that reported costs of less than $10,000.
Don Tripp, the parks director in Des Moines, said protesters camped out in a city park have arguably saved money by taking their garbage out of the park in barrels and shoveling the sidewalk after the first snow, tasks city employees normally handle.
Unlike some other cities, protesters also agreed to pay the full cost of their electricity usage. Tripp noted the protests did come with an intangible "social cost" — discouraging other residents from using the park that they pay to maintain, too.
"But at the end of the day, the thing that has been in the back of my mind is that during times of public discourse in our country parks are noted for being places where people have the chance to demonstrate their First Amendment rights," he said. "I think their use has been consistent with that."
But not all protesters have been the best neighbors. In Tennessee, where protesters have been camped outside the Capitol, a State General Services spokeswoman said two cleaning crew members have spent about three hours every morning pressure-washing entrances to the building using household cleaners to deodorize them.
And in Los Angeles, property damage to the park surrounding City Hall — where nearly 500 tents are jammed in — is estimated to be at least $200,000, including the destroyed lawn, sprinklers, graffiti on a fountain and damage to trees and shrubs. City Hall spokesman Peter Sanders says there's not a definite estimate on damage yet because workers have not been able to properly inspect the site.
For police officers, the longer hours mean bigger paychecks but come at a cost, driving up their stress levels and potentially leaving less money for other initiatives in the long-term.
Unlike a parade or a one-day march, the Occupy protests are in their third month in some cities and show no signs of easing up, said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum, a think tank for police chiefs.
"You're dealing with 50 to 75 cities where this is going on. In some cities it's a minimal expense. In some cities, it's considerable," he said. "For a city that has slashed overtime, this has an impact. And that means they are going to have to cut back in other ways."
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Foley reported from Iowa City, Iowa. Contributing to this report were Associated Press writers Nigel Duara in Portland, Ore., Christina Hoag in Los Angeles, Colleen Long in New York, Errin Haines in Atlanta, Jay Lindsay in Boston, Jamie Stengle in Dallas, April Castro in Austin, Texas, Patrick Walters in Philadelphia, Chris Grygiel in Seattle, Terry S. Collins in Oakland, Calif., Wilson Ring in Montpelier, Vt., Jim Salter in St. Louis, Lucas Johnson in Nashville, Tenn., Jessica Gresko in Washington, D.C., Laura Crimaldi in Providence and Karen Hawkins in Chicago.
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'Occupy Oakland' Hosts Gay Porn Video Shoot
Source: Huffington Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/23/occupy-oakland...
An adult film company is capitalizing on the heat of the U.S. anti-establishment protests by using a tent in the middle of the "Occupy Oakland" encampment as the setting for a new gay porn flick. Read more
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/23/occupy-oakland...
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..Occupy protests cost nation's cities at least $13M
By MEGHAN BARR and RYAN J. FOLEY | AP – 20 hrs ago.........Related Content.
The civil rights movement marches and rallies cost cities a lot of money. Should americans have skipped them, too?
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The civil rights movement marches and rallies cost cities a lot of money. Should americans have skipped them, too?
LMFAO - you equate the two?
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LMFAO - you equate the two?
bump for an answer on that note
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LMFAO - you equate the two?
I would never 'equate' any 2 movements in history. They all had their supporters, their ideas, and their outcomes.
I don't equate mcdonalds and dunkin donuts. However, I understand that people believe both taste good.
A lot of people are very passionate about these 2 issues. Racial equality and personal equality in the face of a system which really is squashing the middle class - Rich are getting richer at a dispoportionate rate compared with history. You can thank globalization and computer manipuation of stock market, of course. Oh, and the multiple wars. We have 2-3 vietnams going on simultaneously right now. that makes rich ppl richer.
Ppl believe in OWS. You disagree with them. You would vote for Casey Anthony to have the nuclear football. So...
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SOOOOO...
you got called on your idiocy here...
The civil rights movement marches and rallies cost cities a lot of money. Should americans have skipped them, too?
and responded with more idiocy here?
I would never 'equate' any 2 movements in history. They all had their supporters, their ideas, and their outcomes.
I don't equate mcdonalds and dunkin donuts. However, I understand that people believe both taste good.
A lot of people are very passionate about these 2 issues. Racial equality and personal equality in the face of a system which really is squashing the middle class - Rich are getting richer at a dispoportionate rate compared with history. You can thank globalization and computer manipuation of stock market, of course. Oh, and the multiple wars. We have 2-3 vietnams going on simultaneously right now. that makes rich ppl richer.
Ppl believe in OWS. You disagree with them. You would vote for Casey Anthony to have the nuclear football. So...
sound about right?
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answering a Q with a Q then attacking me. nice!
I guess you have helped 33 avoid answering the Q. nice work!
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Occupy San Diego Flash Mob Invades Wal-Mart (Filled 75 carts and LEFT them)
Youtube ^ | November 25, 2011
Edited on Saturday, November 26, 2011 3:14:27 PM by Admin Moderator. [history]
So anyway, I decided to visit the DUmp to see what they were talking about, and I saw this thread on the front page:
Approximately 75 people met up this morning at a transit center with the knowledge of flash mob that will happen and nothing else. I was a little apprehensive being that I didn't know how we could incoroprate dancing into the 99% movement, nor having much ability to dance. Their idea on the flash mob was that we'd all enter Walmart inconspicuously and shop for 30 minutes, filling up our carts as much as possible. Then we'd meet at the front to check out and the first person to get up to a checker calls asks the cashier to page their child (Michael Check) to the checkstand cause they're ready to leave, and then right after the page:
MIC CHECK! Citizens of Walmart!! Greetings and welcome back from the food coma!! In the spirit of holiday giving, we believe a discussion is in order about the meaning of value and low cost. For every low-priced product purchased at Walmart, your communities pay the difference. Every price drop represents mistreated workers who STILL cannot feed their families, STILL cannot afford their homes, and STILL cannot payoff their tuitions. Every sweet deal can be attributed to our jobs being outsourced from American communities. Each item on sale helps bankrupt small businesses. YOU, YOUR COMMUNITIES, AND YOUR WORKERS ARE BEING ABUSED!! Walmart intentionally underemploys, forgoing REAL benefits for social services, costing California taxpayers $86 million annually. Walmart employees are overworked, underpaid, and left under-insured in poor and unsafe conditions. Walmart could fire its employees for the mere mention of forming a workers union; which is the best tool American workers have to protect their rights. Corporate beasts such as this one bleed our communities dry by putting the local business owners, who actually have personal stake in your communities, at a disadvantage against these gluttonous juggernauts. Yet they have the nerve to tell you it's for your benefit. WE DO NOT HAVE TO BUY THE SCAM!! WE DO NOT HAVE TO BUY DOLLAR-COLLARS FOR OUR FAMILIES!! WE DO NOT HAVE TO BUY ANY OF THIS!! SELF-MADE GIFTS HAVE MORE POWER ANYWAY!! So this holiday season, give yourselves, your families, and your communities the gift of empowerment!! ACT LOCALLY!! SHOP SMALL BUSINESS!! BUY AMERICAN!! Thank you, Exit Safely, and remember to smile...
After that there was applause as we all 75 left our carts and exited the disgusting, big box store. We received thumbs ups from employess, smiles from most, claps at the end, and when walking out the three cops there smiled at us as we walked past shouting, "We are the 99%, YOU are the 99%!" We did the same to a second Walmart and then had to call it a day since other activities were planned.
Sorry for the length, I didn't know how else to post the mic-check. It was entirely envigorating.
There was one a**hat that charged past us and screamed "You f*****g socialists!" Yes, a good laugh; as what a prime example he was setting for his 7 or 8 year old daughter he was dragging along while huffing and puffing. BTW, did Occupy ever say they were for socialism? LOL... Well, heaven forbid they ever need Social Security or Medicare...
Age range from was from 2-80; quite the mix of races present; very much a good example of the 99%.
I am proud to stand in solidarity with Occupy San Diego.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2380870
It's one thing to go in there and chant (which is still annoying), but to holler that the Walmart workers are oppressed, overworked, and unfairly treated and leave 75 carts full of merchandise for them to put away is outrageous. A couple posters actually pointed this out, and have a look at this delusional reply:
I bet they appreciated being defended and respected by the flash mob much more The work? Who gives a s***. But having a bunch of people doing a mic check on how abusive your bosses are and how hard your life is made by your bosses? Priceless.
Check out the video here:
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filling 75 shopping carts then leaving... i dont know if that's more funny or stupid. I just have to shake my head in disbelief lol
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SOOOOO...
you got called on your idiocy here...
and responded with more idiocy here?
sound about right?
Seems like all you do is enter threads, call people an idiot, and then have no answer yourself..if you are going to call people out you need to elaborate more as to why people are wrong
go ahead and begin hurling your insults again.......
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Seems like all you do is enter threads, call people an idiot, and then have no answer yourself..if you are going to call people out you need to elaborate more as to why people are wrong
go ahead and begin hurling your insults again.......
"quit stalking me" - Andreisaracist ;)
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"quit stalking me" - Andreisaracist ;)
A lot of liberal stalkers on this site.
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Hardcore
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Rat population has ‘exploded’ around Occupy D.C. camps
Washington Post ^ | 02:36 PM ET, 01/09/2012 | By Annie Gowen
Posted on January 9, 2012 7:15:49 PM EST by DeaconBenjamin
The rat population around the two Occupy D.C. camps at McPherson Square and Freedom Plaza has “exploded”since protesters began their vigil in October, according to Mohammad N. Akhter, the director of the District’s Department of Health.
Akhter said in an interview Monday that city health inspectors have seen rats running openly through both camps and spotted numerous new burrows and nests underneath hay-stuffed pallets occupiers are using for beds. Both campsites had working kitchens for weeks until last week, but protesters at McPherson Square voluntarily closed down theirs after health inspectors pointed out unsanitary conditions during an informal monitoring visit.
Akhter said his concerns about the health and safety at the camps prompted him to order a city-wide review of conditions there, including input from health inspectors, mental health professionals, experts on the homeless and others. He is reviewing their findings this week.
“I’m very supportive of their rights and ability to demonstrate but I have concerns about their personal safety,” Akhter said.
Akhter, who is originally from Pakistan and has worked for the District government for over 20 years, said that the situation in the two parks is reminiscent of refu gee camps he has toured overseas in the Middle East and Africa during his public health career. He said he fears disaster could strike during a severe winter storm.
“Going down to these camps, it’s no different than refu gee camps,” Akhter said. “People are living in very primitive conditions and they’re doing it by choice. They are very brave and thoughtful people, but my concern is that they should also take care of themselves. When the weather goes bad suddenly we’re watching a tragedy unfold in the middle of Washington, D.C. ”
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Rat population has ‘exploded’ around Occupy D.C. camps
Washington Post ^ | 02:36 PM ET, 01/09/2012 | By Annie Gowen
Posted on January 9, 2012 7:15:49 PM EST by DeaconBenjamin
The rat population around the two Occupy D.C. camps at McPherson Square and Freedom Plaza has “exploded”since protesters began their vigil in October, according to Mohammad N. Akhter, the director of the District’s Department of Health.
Akhter said in an interview Monday that city health inspectors have seen rats running openly through both camps and spotted numerous new burrows and nests underneath hay-stuffed pallets occupiers are using for beds. Both campsites had working kitchens for weeks until last week, but protesters at McPherson Square voluntarily closed down theirs after health inspectors pointed out unsanitary conditions during an informal monitoring visit.
Akhter said his concerns about the health and safety at the camps prompted him to order a city-wide review of conditions there, including input from health inspectors, mental health professionals, experts on the homeless and others. He is reviewing their findings this week.
“I’m very supportive of their rights and ability to demonstrate but I have concerns about their personal safety,” Akhter said.
Akhter, who is originally from Pakistan and has worked for the District government for over 20 years, said that the situation in the two parks is reminiscent of refu gee camps he has toured overseas in the Middle East and Africa during his public health career. He said he fears disaster could strike during a severe winter storm.
“Going down to these camps, it’s no different than refu gee camps,” Akhter said. “People are living in very primitive conditions and they’re doing it by choice. They are very brave and thoughtful people, but my concern is that they should also take care of themselves. When the weather goes bad suddenly we’re watching a tragedy unfold in the middle of Washington, D.C. ”
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you should know..you're one of the rats
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Man charged after baby found in McPherson Square tent
By: Emily Babay | 01/11/12 2:26 PM
Examiner Staff Writer | Follow Her: @Emilybabay
GRAEME JENNINGS/EXAMINER
A man is facing child cruelty charges after his 13-month-old daughter was found alone in a tent in the Occupy DC camp at McPherson Square.
Occupy members told authorities that a baby was alone in a tent at about 10 a.m. Wednesday, said Sgt. David Schlosser, a U.S. Park Police spokesman. Officers found the girl alone in the tent with no adults around. The baby had been alone for at least half an hour, Schlosser said.
A man returned to the park while police were investigating and said he was the baby's father, Schlosser said. The man was charged with attempted second-degree cruelty to children. Schlosser would not release the man's name, saying doing so could identify the child.
In Today's Examiner
Eradicating rats may require removing Occupy tents
It was raining and the temperature was in the mid-40s when officers found the baby, Schlosser said. He said emergency responders examined the girl, who was found to be healthy.
Schlosser said he didn't know whether the man arrested was part of the Occupy DC contingent.
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The director of the D.C. Department of Health said the only way to eradicate an infestation of rats at two Occupy protest camps in the District is to completely clear the parks of tents and structures until the rodents are dealt with.
But there's no telling whether the National Park Service, which controls both the McPherson Square and Freedom Plaza campsites, would agree to such a drastic step even though tents would be removed only temporarily, District Health Director Mohammad Akhter told The Washington Examiner on Tuesday.
A National Park Service representative did not immediately return a call for comment Tuesday. U.S. Park Police spokesman David Schlosser said he hadn't heard of any plans to remove tents and clear out rodents.
The Health Department has no jurisdiction over federally owned McPherson Square or Freedom Plaza, but District officials have been periodically checking in on protesters to ensure they're staying warm and preparing food properly. Last week, officials stopped by both camps after receiving complaints about rats from nearby residents and businesses. The McPherson camp temporarily shut down its kitchen in response to the visit, but has since reopened it.
Akhter said health officials have noticed "very unsanitary conditions" in kitchen areas at McPherson, and an increased number of rats and birds "picking" at prepared food. Rats have been digging burrows and hiding in straw-filled wooden pallets beneath the tents, he said. Tents would have to be temporarily removed to get at the rats, he said.
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Report: Obama admin sends Coast Guard to protect ships from violent union members, occupiers
By Matthew Boyle - The Daily Caller 1:39 PM 01/12/2012
President Barack Obama’s administration has ordered the United States Coast Guard to protect grain ships at the Port of Longview from violent “Occupy” protesters and dockworker union members, according to a local news report.
The Daily News in Longview, Wash., reported that the Coast Guard will protect a grain shipment from an onslaught of “Occupy” protesters and members of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU). The ship will be transporting grain to Asia. A date for the shipment has not yet been set.
The group of leftwing activists had shut down ports all along the West Coast on Dec. 8, including the Port of Longview. The Coast Guard will apparently be helping the ship load its grain at the port, and then depart for Asia, safely.
The local unions and “Occupy” groups are planning to band together to protest the Coast Guard protections of the grain shipment when it happens.
The Coast Guard is a part of the United States Armed Forces and ordinarily falls under the authority of the Department of Homeland Security. The president can, however, at any time, move the Coast Guard to operate under the U.S. Department of Navy, and Congress can do the same during times of war. As the nation’s commander-in-chief, President Obama has the ability to control what actions the Coast Guard takes.
The Daily News reported that the ILWU said it has no plans to stop the grain ship.
Dockworker union members have protested the port since last January, according to a report on the World Socialist Web Site (WSWS).
“Ongoing protests by dockworkers since January of last year escalated in September when ILWU members and supporters sought to block a train heading to the terminal,” WSWS’s Hector Cordon wrote. “Two separate attempts to stop the train were suppressed by riot police, who arrested 19 protestors in the process. The next morning several hundred workers and supporters entered the port’s terminal grounds and dumped grain from the train cars.”
In addition to the attempts to block the train, at least one Longshoremen protester verbally attacked local news media for covering their protests.
“Hey, get your fucking camera out of here, that’s none of your fucking business, you cock bite,” the union member said to a local reporter while grabbing his camera. “Unless you want [to be arrested for] trespassing, get the fuck out of here now. Get out of here now! Don’t fuck with me, partner!”
When The Daily Caller later asked ILWU staffers in downtown Washington, D.C., what they thought of that dockworker’s behavior, ILWU Executive Director Lindsay McLaughlin slammed the door in TheDC’s face and refused to answer any questions.
Longshoremen are among the best paid blue collar workers in the country, partly because of union-negotiated contracts. Longshoremen with 10 years’ of experience earn roughly $30 per hour, according to payscale.com, a website that tracks typical salaries across various U.S. careers.
Wages for East Coat longshoremen are moderate because of competition among ports. But nearly all West Coast dock workers are part of the ILWU, which uses its monopoly to boost wages for its members.
In 2007, average full-time wages for 15,000 workers at 29 West Coast ports topped $136,000 a year, according to the Pacific Maritime Association, which negotiates and administers contracts between ports and the ILWU. Longshoremen earned an average of more than $125,000, clerks more than $145,000, and foremen more than $200,000.
Workers also get benefits packages worth $50,000 per year, according to the association’s 2007 report.
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‘Occupiers’ Throw Bibles, Allegedly Urinate on Cross
Jan 23, 2012
Members of the Occupy Wall Street movement urinated on a cross, desecrated a church and threw Bibles at police officers in separate incidents over the weekend.
Protesters in San Francisco occupied an abandoned hotel and began attacking police – hurling bricks and Bibles at officers.
“Once they gained access [to the hotel], some of them made it to the top of the roof and they began to throw Bibles down at the officers,” San Francisco Police Dept. spokesman Carlos Manfredi told ABC News.
Several officers were injured in the attack.
In New York City, Occupy protesters allegedly urinated on a cross inside a Brooklyn church.
“An occupier peed inside the building and the pee came into contact with a cross,” wrote Rabbi Chaim Gruber in a note to the New York Post.
The Occupy Wall Street movement has a history of participants urinating and defecating in public.
The group has also been accused of desecrating West Park Presbyterian Church. The pastor ordered 60 protesters to leave the sanctuary after someone stole a bronze lid from the $12,500 baptismal font.
“It was like pissing on the 99 percent,” an angry Rev. Bob Brashear told the New York Post.
The pastor supports the Occupy movement – but is outraged over their behavior.
“Even in the 1980s when we had a lot of crack addicts etc. in the neighborhood, and even robbing people in the church, that particular religious symbol had never really been disturbed before,” the pastor told CBS News. “I tried to make it clear that I don’t believe in collective punishment but I do believe in collective accountability and responsibility.”
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/occupiers-urinate-on-cross-throw-bibles.html
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LOL!!!!
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WH-backed Occupy protester murders parents, stuffs their bodies in the back of the PT Cruiser
Red White and Blue News ^ | 2/12/2012 | Staff
Posted on February 12, 2012 8:26:15 AM EST by IbJensen
The hits keep on coming for the #Occupy criminal movement.
The Obama-endorsed radicals have put together quite a record of accomplishment: ■9 deaths, 5 found dead in tents, One found dead after 2 days
■2 murders
■Tens of millions of dollars in damages, layoffs, vandalism, law breaking
■Multiple Rapes
■Thousands of arrests
■Public masturbation
■Feces
■Child molestation and baby abuse
Now this…
An #occupy radical strangled his parents and stuffed them in the back of the family’s PT Crusier.
SFGate reported, via FOX Nation:
Friends and relatives said Susan Poff and Robert Kamin of Oakland were the perfect pair to adopt a foster child.
They had dedicated their careers to helping others escape poverty, she as a physician assistant in a city-run clinic in the Tenderloin and he as a clinical psychologist for inmates in the San Francisco County Jail system.
But now, less than a decade after they adopted, their 15-year-old son stands accused of strangling both Poff, 50, and Kamin, 55, then hiding their bodies in the back of the family’s PT Cruiser…
Co-workers said Poff and Kamin were having some arguments with their son, some of it having to do with him spending too much time in the Occupy Oakland encampment, but nothing that sounded beyond the scope of typical teenage rebelliousness.
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so your saying because he was part of the ows that's why he killed his parents. your not right ;D
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so your saying because he was part of the ows that's why he killed his parents. your not right ;D
He probably got hooked on drugs and communism.
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Occupy Idiot Catches on Fire – Suffers Second Degree Burns Torching Historic Colorado Town Hall
Gateway Pundit ^ | 2/29/12 | Jim Hoft
Posted on February 29, 2012 11:14:51 PM EST by Baynative
Now this… Kyle Lawrence, a Colorado Springs Occupier, remains in a Denver Hospital burn unit with second degree burns that he received when he was caught on fire during the arson that leveled the Historic Green Mountain Falls Town Hall.
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Three Occupy Oakland Protesters Charged with Hate Crimes (Reign of Terror Continues)
Reuters ^ | Sat Mar 3, 2012 | Emmett Berg
Posted on March 3, 2012 1:25:02 PM EST by DogByte6RER
Three Occupy Oakland Protesters Charged with Hate Crimes
(Reuters) - Three Occupy Oakland protesters accused of surrounding and taunting a woman before stealing her wallet were charged on Friday with robbery and hate crimes, authorities said.
Michael Davis, 32, Nneka Crawford, 23, and Randolph Wilkins, 24, confronted the woman on the streets of Oakland in February after she told them not to riot in her neighborhood, the Oakland Police said in a written release.
"She was surrounded by three protestors and battered as they yelled vulgar epithets regarding their perception of her sexual orientation," Oakland Police spokeswoman Johnna Watson said.
The female victim was not identified except as a 20-year resident of the neighborhood.
"Her wallet was taken during the crime," Watson said. "The victim broke away from the group and called police, who were able to arrest one suspect near the scene."
Watson said the other two suspects were arrested at a February 29 Occupy Oakland protest.
Each was charged by the Alameda County District Attorney's Office with felony counts of robbery and hate crimes, Watson said.
An Occupy Oakland organizer could not be reached for comment on Friday evening.
A rallying cry of the movement has been that 1 percent of the population has too much of the nation's wealth and the remaining 99 percent is disadvantaged.
It has lost momentum in recent months after police cleared encampments in New York, Oakland and other major cities.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/03/04/Exclusive%20Occupy%20Abolish
No wonder he was murdered. Unfucking real.
This is really what it has always been, a movement of communists, radicals, leftists, and terrorists.
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They’re baack! Occupy plotting to flood Wall Street. Tent cities, barricades, calls to resist National Guard, police
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 11:15 AM EST
By Aaron Klein
www.wmd.com
The Occupy Wall Street movement is calling for protesters to flood lower Manhattan in September, where they are to set up tents and barricades while resisting any police or National Guard attempt to dispel the crowd, KleinOnline has learned.
“If we hang in there, 20,000-strong, week after week against every police and National Guard effort to expel us from Wall Street, it would be impossible for (President) Obama to ignore us,” reads a call to arms posted on the website of Adbusters Magazine, which has been behind Occupy since the movement’s inception.
“Our government would be forced to choose publicly between the will of the people and the lucre of the corporations,” added the announcement.
After largely breaking for the winter, Occupy is calling for the encampment to begin Sept. 17.
“On September 17, we want to see 20,000 people flood into lower Manhattan, set up tents, kitchens, peaceful barricades and occupy Wall Street for a few months,” reads the Adbusters announcement.
“Once there, we shall incessantly repeat one simple demand in a plurality of voices…We demand that Barack Obama ordain a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence money has over our representatives in Washington.”
Occupy to target Democratic convention
In January, KleinOnline reported that a coalition of U.S. radical groups, including the Occupy Movement, are preparing protests to start in September, including the targeting of the Democratic National Convention that takes place that month in Charlotte, N.C.
The Occupy movement is likely to escalate months before the Sept. 3-6 event. A slew of extremist organizations, some tied to Obama, are preparing protests to coincide with major NATO and G-8 summits slated for Chicago in May.
Foreshadowing possible violent confrontations, some of the same radical trainers behind the infamous 1999 Seattle riots against the World Trade Organization have been mobilizing new protest efforts geared toward world summits.
The plans for the Democratic convention are posted on a central website, ProtestDNC.org. More than three dozen organizations, including labor, anti-war and so-called civil rights and immigrants rights groups are joining together to initiate a coalition.
The group calls for:
•Good jobs for all! Economic justice now – Make the banks and corporations pay for their crisis!
•Money for education, health care, housing and all human needs, not for war and incarceration!
•Justice for immigrants and all oppressed peoples! Stop the raids and deportations!
The protest coalition is complaining that the city of Charlotte has already denied their requests for permits to march. The city told the coalition that the DNC itself has reserved major parks in Charlotte during the convention.
The protest website warns the radical groups will take to the streets regardless of whether permits are issued.
“Organizations including Occupy movements across the country are already planning to mobilize to be in the streets of Charlotte during the DNC,” it states.
Along with Occupy, other groups endorsing the scheduled DNC protests include the Revolutionary Students Union, the Students for a Democratic Society and Workers World Party.
One endorsing group, which calls itself the Committee to Stop FBI Repression, is also a main organizer of the protests being scheduled for Chicago’s NATO and G-8 summits in May.
The anti-FBI Committee is led by Tom Burke. It has been seeking to lead activism against the FBI’s reported ongoing terror probes of Chicago and Minnesota anti-war groups.
Burke, a former school custodian-turned-stay-at-home-father, belongs to the Freedom Road Socialist Organization, a group mentioned in subpoenas and search warrants issued in the same FBI terror probe.
WND previously reported Obama has ties to the Chicago anti-war activists and groups being probed by the FBI, including Hatem Abudayyeh, the executive director of the Arab American Action Network, or AAAN.
WND was first to report that Obama, while serving as a paid director of the far-left nonprofit Chicago Woods Fund, provided two grants to the AAAN.
Obama served at the Woods Fund alongside Weather Underground terrorist-group founder Bill Ayers.
AAAN was founded by a longtime Obama associate, Columbia University Professor Rashid Khalidi. Khalidi’s wife, Mona, is president of the Arab American Action Network.
Meanwhile, Occupy itself has zeroed in on the upcoming NATO and G8 summits. The anti-Wall Street movement reportedly even opened a headquarters in Chicago within walking distance of the locations at which the summits are scheduled to take place.
Chicago will be the first American city other than Washington to host a NATO gathering.
It will be the first time since 1977, in London, that both NATO and the G8 will hold meetings in the same city at the same time.
Such meetings have drawn mass protests that turned violent.
The 1999 WTO event in Seattle devolved into widespread rioting in which more than 40,000 protesters, some using violent tactics, descended on the city, prompting police to use tear gas and rubber bullets. The clash became known as “The Battle of Seattle.”
The G-8 summit has similarly drawn violent protests.
A 2001 riot at a G-8 meeting in Genoa, Italy, left one person dead and hundreds injured. Also, in the run-up to a G-20 economic summit in Pittsburgh in 2009, police reportedly fired pepper spray at marchers who threw rocks and garbage.
Preparing for such outbreaks, the Chicago Sun-Times last July quoted Superintendent of Police Garry McCarthy saying he was training 13,000 officers under his command for mass arrests of protesters.
“We have to train for mass arrests,” McCarthy said. “We have to train 13,000 police officers in arrest procedures and containment procedures. At the same time, we will not stop patrolling the city.”
In response, radical groups held a press conference last August in downtown Chicago demanding permits to march during the world summits in May.
Joe Iosbaker of the United National Antiwar Committee, one of the groups planning protests, warned, “The wars and economic policies of the NATO and G8 nations are not just and will be met by protest.”
Iosbaker is a University of Illinois-Chicago office worker and a union steward for his SEIU local whose home was raided by the FBI last September reportedly as part of the same terror probe investigating material support for jihadist groups by Chicago groups.
Obama is also tied to Iosobaker.
WND reported Iosbaker and his wife, Stephanie Weiner, worked as leaders of the Chicago New Party, a controversial 1990s political party that sought to elect members to public office with the aim of moving the Democratic Party far leftward to ultimately form a new party with a socialist agenda.
WND previously reported on evidence from the New Party’s own newsletters showing Obama was a member of the New Party.
Another group planning to protest at the May summits is Code Pink, which also helped to lead the 1999 WTO riots. Code Pink’s co-founder, Jodie Evans, was a fundraiser and financial bundler for Obama’s presidential campaign.
With additional research by Brenda J. Elliott
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Obama hands "Occupy" a major victory
PGA Weblog ^
And they know it. Anybody remember when Obama refused to acknowledge 8-28 and many other tea party or liberty-based gatherings? Why is that? He did not want to give those groups credibility.
The announcement has gone out that the G-8 Summit is being moved from Chicago, to Camp David. This is clearly a victory for the Occupy movement. This is something that revolutionaries desperately need. As time goes on, (see the STORM manifesto - search it for the word "burnout") revolutionaries can get burned out. Who wouldn't? We all have our limits.
Now, enter Occupy. In one of their own publications, here is what they are reporting:
Occupy Claims Victory as Obama Relocates G8 Summit
Lookout! This summer is not going to be pretty. Obama just threw gasoline, rocketfuel, and some nuclear rods on the fire. Consider this: Occupy was just successful at getting 9 of the world's major leaders to move to a different location. If you know how revolutionaries think, you will know how giddy they are.
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Occupy Protester Dumped Tub of Feces: Police (at NYC Bank ATM)
NBC New York ^ | Wednesday, March 21, 2012
Posted on March 21, 2012 11:03:03 PM EDT by kristinn
Police say an Occupy Wall Street protester dumped a tub of human waste down a public stairwell and inside a bank vestibule, and got caught on video.
Police said Occupy Wall Street protesters were captured on surveillance video dragging a large receptacle of human urine and feces to an open-air plaza at the corner of Nassau and Cedar streets last Wednesday evening, just before 8 p.m.
They then poured the waste down a set of stairs there, police said.
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(Rest of the story plus video of the dirty deed at sourcelink.)
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Radicals Smash Windows at NYC Business in Chilling Display of Violent ‘Black Bloc’ Tactics
Yahoo ^ | 4/15/12 | Madeleine Morgenstern
Posted on April 15, 2012 7:59:49 PM EDT by Libloather
Radicals Smash Windows at NYC Business in Chilling Display of Violent ‘Black Bloc’ Tactics
By Madeleine Morgenstern | The Blaze – 2 hrs 24 mins ago
Two people were arrested in New York City Saturday night after Occupy Wall Street-linked protesters vandalized storefronts in what was described as “black bloc” tactics, the New York Times reported.
A black bloc is a protest tactic where protesters wear black clothing and mask their faces to make it harder for police to pick out individuals.
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The East Village blog EV Grieve reported people around the park said protesters smashed windows at Starbucks and a 7-11.
“About 50 ppl dressed in black bashing windows, attacking 7-11 sign, chanting ‘nypd go to hell,’” Twitter user @Ewingweb tweeted at 8:57 p.m.
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Five Arrested in Alleged Bomb Plot
The Federal Bureau of Investigation arrested five suspects in the Cleveland area in a sting operation for allegedly plotting a bomb attack on a local bridge, law enforcement officials said Tuesday.
The suspects were self-described anarchists who formed their own group, according to one official. The official said that during the investigation, several of the suspects repeatedly complained that the Occupy Wall Street movement, which had spread to other cities from New York, wasn't violent enough.
The group's alleged plot isn't linked to this week's anniversary of the killing of Osama bin Laden or to any known terror group, officials said.
The group was arrested late Monday and the charges were unsealed Tuesday, which is May Day, a day of protest for many of those involved in the Occupy movement.
The charges include conspiracy and attempted use of explosive materials to damage property affecting interstate commerce. The suspects range in age from 20 to 35.
FBI officials said no one was ever in danger from the explosive devices, because they were inoperable and under the control of an undercover FBI agent.
Over a period of several months, officials said, three of the suspects formed the group and initially envisioned using smoke grenades as a distraction to topple financial-institution signs on high-rise buildings in downtown Cleveland. The group later decided to obtain plastic explosives to attack the Route 82 Brecksville-Northfield High Level Bridge, which passes over the Cuyahoga Valley National Park, according to a criminal complaint filed in federal court.
All five suspects are due in federal court in Cleveland later Tuesday.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304050304577377851612024974.html?mod=wsj_share_tweet
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Three Occupy Oakland Protesters Charged with Hate Crimes (Reign of Terror Continues
LOL @ "Reign of terror".
No, hitler and mussolini unleashed a reign of terror. These are some spoiled douchebags trying to make some dumbshit political statement while tweeting on their iPhones about how bad capitalism is.
"Reign of terror" - sack the fcuk up, reuters.
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LIVE: Protests Are Getting Bloody And Physical In New York, Hundreds Of Arrests Expected
Dina Spector, Gus Lubin and Linette Lopez|May 1, 2012, 8:19 AM|10,445|123
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They're out in Bryant Park
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The May Day protests in New York City were slowed by rain in the morning.
Some protesters gathered in Bryant Park and marched to the Manhattan offices of Bank of America, John Paulson and more.
The first arrest?
One of the first arrests occurred at 9:04 when a Vietnam Vet was booked for blocking traffic. Don't worry, the protesters have instructions for when they get arrested.
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Other protesters gathered in Brooklyn, where for awhile there were more cops than Occupiers. But they had a big crowd by the time Occupy Bushwick and Occupy Williamsburg joined to march over the Williamsburg bridge. We filmed one group of protesters with a pretty catchy chant.
There were a bunch of arrests on the Manhattan side of the bridge, with cops booking people for wearing masks in groups of three or more.
Michael Kelley
A bunch of arrests on the Williamsburg Bridge
We also spoke to Occupy Wall Street founder Phil Arnone, who is counting on hundreds of arrests today. He says demonstrators also plan to visit three popular restaurant chains this afternoon to protest for labor and immigration rights.
After 1 o'clock, observers in Midtown Manhattan reported that up to 1,000 protesters were heading down 42nd Street toward Third Avenue.
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Biker arrests at Lafayette and Spring
Protestors swept through the streets of Chinatown after several "very physical" arrests near Roosevelt Park.
Two bicyclists were also arrested at Lafayette and Spring for "blocking the street."
Five more arrests on Sixth Avenue and Waverly left one protester with a badly bloodied face after being thrown on the ground.
Around 16:00 ET a huge crowd had formed in Union Square, where Immortal Technique, Das Racist and others will perform.
Meanwhile see what happened on the West Coast when Oakland PD fired tear gas on crowds full of children.
At around 5.30 ET, after rousing live performances from Immortal Technique and Das Racist, the crowd gathered at Union Square has begun marching down Broadway. We're hearing the numbers may be around 10 to 15 thousand. Occupy says that many protestors trying to join the march are being kept behind police barricades.
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SAN FRANCISCO: Trashed Mission District businesses want answers
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 5/1/12 | Vivian Ho, Ellen Huet, Jaxon Van Derbeken
Posted on May 1, 2012 9:09:33 PM EDT by SmithL
Business owners in San Francisco's Mission District, cleaning up after a night in which protesters damaged more than 30 stores and restaurants and vandalized cars, questioned Tuesday why activists had singled them out and why police hadn't done more to halt the rampage.
Among those dealing with the damage were officers at the neighborhood police station, where black-clad, masked activists threw paint and bashed the front door Monday night.
Even as they defended themselves from criticism that they had allowed the vandals to run wild - one restaurant owner said officers even appeared to be "escorting" the group - high-level police officials met to find a better way to handle out-of-control crowds.
Split from rally
The protesters split away at 9 p.m. from an Occupy rally in Dolores Park that was held in advance of Tuesday's May Day actions. Traveling down 18th Street and onto Valencia Street, they smashed windows with crowbars and signs, threw paint and eggs on buildings and spray-painted anarchy symbols on the hoods of parked cars.
"All I heard was, 'bang, bang, bang,' and some dude had the valet sign, trying to break our window," said Adam Koskoff, manager of the Locanda restaurant on Valencia. "I didn't even see the crowd, and I ran outside and got egged."
The vandals damaged restaurants, bakeries and clothing stories, along with at least 17 cars on Valencia and Guerrero streets. An expensive Aston Martin had its windshield shattered, but the protesters damaged everyday cars as well.
At the Mission police station at 17th and Valencia streets, pink and yellow paint was thrown on the barricaded glass doors, which someone cracked with a hammer or similar weapon.
"It was like the station was under siege," said an officer, who asked not to be named.
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Oakland businesses shaken by Occupy confrontations
San Francisco Chronicle/SFGate.com ^ | Wednesday, May 2, 2012 | Carolyn Said
Posted on May 2, 2012 9:39:08 PM EDT by thecodont
Owners of small businesses near the center of Tuesday's noontime clash between police and protesters in downtown Oakland said they were shaken and on high alert.
"If things get ugly again, I'll put up plywood," said Jean Assuncao, manager of the Pizza Man on Broadway near 14th Street, as he stood at the restaurant's locked doors to admit customers one at a time minutes after protesters had marched farther down the street and clouds of tear gas had dissipated.
Next door, a man and a woman nailed boards over the front of the Broadway Beauty store. Down the block, employees locked the front doors of the Rite-Aid and closed metal security gates. Several nearby businesses, including Oaklandish, Tully's Coffee and Men's Wearhouse, appeared already closed for the day.
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Four Cops Injured, One Stabbed in Melee
5NBC News Chicago ^ | May 21, 2012 | Courtney Copenhagen
Posted on May 21, 2012 8:59:08 PM EDT by yoe
A Chicago police officer suffered a stab wound to the leg, Sunday, and three others were injured during a day of protests around the NATO summit.
Chicago police Supt. Garry McCarthy did not know what was used to stab the officer and became emotional when discussing the crowd with which his officers dealt.
"If you think it's easy to ask people to do what they did, it's not," he said, pausing to gain his composure. "Asking people to put themselves in harm's way, knowing that they're going to get assaulted, and to be able to stand there and take it, those guys were amazing."
Overall, officers arrested more than 45 individuals during a day of marches and protests (that turned violent in the evening hours)
[snip] Officers knew that a group of Black Bloc anarchists planned to storm McCormick place after a group of war veterans finished its demonstration there.
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Police Link DNA Left At An Occupy Wall Street Protest To An 8-Year-Old Murder
Abby Rogers|23 minutes ago|3|
Video cameras in the subway captured Occupy Wall Streeters chaining emergency exits during the March protest
DNA from a chain left behind after an Occupy Wall Street subway station protest in March gave police the biggest break they've had yet in the 8-year-old murder of a 21-year-old Juilliard student, according to an NBC News 4 exclusive..
Sarah Fox was found naked and strangled in Inwood Hill Park in May 2004. At the time, investigators found DNA left on Fox's pink CD player, which was recovered in the woods near the crime scene.
Police recently found similar DNA on a chain protestors used in March to lock emergency gates at the Beverly Road subway station in East Flatbush.
Police have not yet been able to link the matching DNA samples to a person nor can they definitively say the same person who left the chain murdered Fox in 2004, according to NBC.
No one was arrested after the March protests.
Despite the lack of a suspect, the DNA discovery represents a major break in Fox's murder.
“You’ve got the same DNA left at two distinct sites," Dr. Lawrence Koblinsky, an expert at John Jay College of Criminal Justice told NBC. "Until they find the individual who left that DNA, we won’t know. But the likelihood is high the person who left that DNA on the CD player is the killer of Sarah Fox.”
Police initially suspected Dimitry Sheinman killed Fox but he was never charged. However, he still remains a person of interest.
Watch NBC 4 New York's exclusive report:
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/occupy-wall-street-dna-2012-7#ixzz20JcludhY