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Title: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 01:44:11 PM
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(http://www.americanwrestlingfederation.com/Gold%27sLogo.JPG)

(http://hillaryshort.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/s-gym-3.jpg)

(http://www.americanwrestlingfederation.com/RicArnoldKen2.JPG)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 01:45:53 PM
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(http://jameskillough.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/arnold.jpg)

(http://www.davedraper.com/site%20images/photolg4.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SzUgf2gt-uI/AAAAAAAAEZk/SxvdFPIFBcc/s400/Arnold+in+golds+gym+(www.musclebase.blogspot.com).jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 01:48:11 PM
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(http://www.davedraper.com/site%20images/photolg1.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2011/arnold-competitor_4.jpg)

(http://www.legendaryleonbrown.com/leonsfriends_clip_image001.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 01:50:00 PM
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Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 01:52:18 PM
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(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2009/legendary_leon_brown_interview_c.jpg)

(http://www.workoutweights.guy.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 01:54:45 PM
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(http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID23527/images/ArnoldRicT-bar.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/samir_bannout_interview_l.jpg)

(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2009/09-030-training/image002.png)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 01:57:01 PM
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(http://totalworkout.homestead.com/billy_and_arnold_at_golds_gym.jpg)

(http://fullspike.com/bodybuilding/bodybuilders/arnold-schwarzenegger/gallery/training-photos/arnold-schwarzenegger-training-photos-20.png)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1165.0;attach=8644;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 01:59:20 PM
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Uvy2Azj8TMY/TD80PZhFRHI/AAAAAAAACTA/moN58ln5rvo/s1600/arnold.jpg)

(http://www.larrymccusker.com/bg.jpg)

(http://dadfitnessblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/arnold-squat-franco-300x271.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 02:01:29 PM
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(http://sjrgear.cjb.net/Pictures/PICS/Arnold_In_Gold%27s_Gym_(www_musclebase_blogspot_com).JPG)

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1620/994433/2738651/35837211.jpg)

(http://zacheven-esh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/8zane.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 02:04:54 PM
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(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/arnold_friends_insights_p.jpg)

(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2010/10-631-04/charles-380.jpg)

(http://johnalvino.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Arnold_deadlift.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 02:09:04 PM
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(http://www.davedraper.com/fusionbb/fbbuploads/med_1233345626-Bill_Grant.jpg)

(http://myanmarfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/New-Picture-61.png)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1741.0;attach=10510;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Salvatore Martinez on November 15, 2011, 02:13:23 PM
Franco's shoulders look massive here.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 15, 2011, 02:14:06 PM
Who's this next to Arnold..?



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 02:14:15 PM
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(http://davedraper.com/site%20images/robby.jpg)

(http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/201226/gd/129093799984/Bodybuilding-et-fous-rires-au-Temple-du-Bodybuilding.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=357272.0;attach=392621;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 02:16:40 PM
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(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=650.0;attach=3406;image)

(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2008/08-222-feature/image009.jpg)

(http://forum.iron-age-classic-bodybuilding.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=77fbcf128c317656843b9650bde59e3f&action=dlattach;topic=24164.0;id=58812;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Nails on November 15, 2011, 02:17:28 PM
Who's this next to Arnold..?




Wrestler superstar billy gram


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 02:18:35 PM
No treadmills,no bosu balls,no bands or chains,no fitness queens,just black iron,sweat,desire,camaraderie,and intensity.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 02:19:24 PM
I`ll add more pics later if anybody gives a fuck!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Julio Ceasar on November 15, 2011, 02:21:30 PM
Mecca...i suppose 15-20 unkwon bodybuilders who train in a little place is called Mecca...


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Borracho on November 15, 2011, 02:22:38 PM
I`ll add more pics later if anybody gives a fuck!  :)

I give a fuck!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 02:22:48 PM
Mecca...i suppose 15-20 unkwon bodybuilders who train in a little place is called Mecca...
HUH ???


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Salvatore Martinez on November 15, 2011, 02:25:22 PM
No treadmills,no bosu balls,no bands or chains,no fitness queens,just black iron,sweat,desire,camaraderie,and intensity.
it cant be a gym nowadays without a bunch of 20 somethings in Hollister skin tight t shirts, Ipod playing Lady Gaga while supersetting side bends holding a 45 plate and cable "wood choppers".


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 02:26:36 PM
I give a fuck!
Cool !! :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Nirvana on November 15, 2011, 02:41:44 PM
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Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Option D on November 15, 2011, 02:43:40 PM
I give a fuck!

ditto.......mas por favor


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Nirvana on November 15, 2011, 02:46:33 PM
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(http://forum.spam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=465&stc=1&d=1086990995)
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Greg_Kovacs.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/113/images/Greg_Kovacs_78.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Borracho on November 15, 2011, 02:48:38 PM


Thanks for ruining the thread.  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Nirvana on November 15, 2011, 02:56:11 PM
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Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 03:06:31 PM
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/curt_james/BillGrant/billgrant.jpg)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=317.0;attach=1422;image)

(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/wge3521.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 15, 2011, 03:07:39 PM
No treadmills,no bosu balls,no bands or chains,no fitness queens,just black iron,sweat,desire,camaraderie,and intensity.

Plus no training/diet/drug/posing guru's, no posing room, no hammer strength stuff, no duck jumping plyo bitches and no davemadmax6 or lonnie asking dumb questions.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 03:11:22 PM
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(http://kenwaller.net/cbimages/w1.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=151268.0;attach=169798;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 03:13:22 PM
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(http://www.davedraper.com/pmwiki/uploads/PmWiki/RR2.jpg)

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1620/994433/2738651/34050648.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 03:17:15 PM
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(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/47452d1315006164-real-golden-age-physique-thread-med_gallery_496_4_2772.jpg)

(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/7/1/71131-sn245.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 03:21:12 PM
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(http://www.thearnoldfans.com/pictures/classic_10/Ed_Arnold.jpg)

(http://www.fitnessatlantic.com/images/mikekatz.jpg)

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Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 03:26:16 PM
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(http://forum.spam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=370&stc=1&d=1086661641)

(http://primux.com/BB/RickWayne.jpg)

(http://www.legendaryfitness.com/rwBBcurl.gif)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 03:29:21 PM
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(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/36/images/Rick-Wayne%20(11).jpg)

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1620/994433/3617442/45857813.jpg)

(http://www.ironguru.com/images/stories/rick-wayne-arm.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 03:30:40 PM
Plus no training/diet/drug/posing guru's, no posing room, no hammer strength stuff, no duck jumping plyo bitches and no davemadmax6 or lonnie asking dumb questions.
So true....I don`t even think they played music there,believe it or not.

So much better than todays bullshit gym idiots.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 15, 2011, 03:33:36 PM
rick wayne had a sick build ...


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 03:48:15 PM
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(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/arnold_friends_insights_c.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZE-ie13S9Xc/TmzpKRAcwEI/AAAAAAAABek/v-xphhW_2BU/s320/MUSCLEBEACH71.JPG)

(http://www.americanwrestlingfederation.com/mg20.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 03:50:05 PM
rick wayne had a sick build ...
Way ahead of his time!!

Insane vascularity for that time period.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 15, 2011, 03:50:47 PM
So true....I don`t even think they played music there,believe it or not.

So much better than todays bullshit gym idiots.

Oh yeah, the music they play in gyms these days, like if you enter a gay bar, LOL!

On a serious note, I think there's still a market for serious / no bull lifters, but most gyms play it save by investing in tons of machines/cardio stuff, esp here in Europe :-\

I was happy to see an initiative called the Animal Barbell Club, a strong community of lifters who support each other.
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/robbietv/2286-evan-centopani-and-the-jersey-animal-barbell-club-invade-skibas-gym.html


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 04:11:44 PM
Oh yeah, the music they play in gyms these days, like if you enter a gay bar, LOL!

On a serious note, I think there's still a market for serious / no bull lifters, but most gyms play it save by investing in tons of machines/cardio stuff, esp here in Europe :-\

I was happy to see an initiative called the Animal Barbell Club, a strong community of lifters who support each other.
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/robbietv/2286-evan-centopani-and-the-jersey-animal-barbell-club-invade-skibas-gym.html
I`ve trained in about 5-6 hardcore old school style gyms and the owners of each one all told me they msde very little money but just kept the gym open because it was their passion............today s gyms suck because it`s all about cash without any passion involved.  :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 04:16:11 PM
rick wayne had a sick build ...

Rick was an awesome writer as well!

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1620/994433/3617442/45857850.jpg)

(http://ironguru.com/images/stories/rick-wayne-vince-gym-2.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/arnold_friends_insights_g.jpg)

(http://cdn2.iofferphoto.com/img3/item/382/487/348/NoBP.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 04:18:06 PM
:)

(http://superspacecat.net/26/IMG_1872_110707.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hematocritter on November 15, 2011, 04:24:15 PM
Awesome pics.
This is bodybuilding.
Nice to see some V-tapers, I miss the old school look.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 04:26:58 PM
Awesome pics.
This is bodybuilding.
Nice to see some V-tapers, I miss the old school look.
Same here bro!  :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: el numero uno on November 15, 2011, 07:29:36 PM
Did you take all these photos?  ???


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: apply85 on November 15, 2011, 07:38:08 PM
zane dominates, also really clear when arnold is on hgh if u look at his shoulders


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: TrueGrit on November 15, 2011, 08:46:51 PM
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/7/1/71131-sn245.jpg)

Best physique ever, for me. Perfect blend of muscularity and aesthetics.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on November 15, 2011, 08:47:56 PM
Thanks, Wes!

Fantastic pics!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: tom joad on November 15, 2011, 09:07:31 PM
it's a travesty what's happened to bodybuilding under Chick's watch.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 09:37:51 PM
Did you take all these photos?  ???
Yes,my name is Artie Zeller/Jimmy Caruso/Dick Tyler/Gene Mozee`


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
zane dominates, also really clear when arnold is on hgh if u look at his shoulders
Go write that novel...........here`s a tip,it`s best to write about subjects you know about!!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 09:40:06 PM
Thanks, Wes!

Fantastic pics!
My pleasure.I`ll add more tomorrow!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Straw Man on November 15, 2011, 09:51:19 PM
Yes,my name is Artie Zeller/Jimmy Caruso/Dick Tyler/Gene Mozee`

lol


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Stavios on November 15, 2011, 09:52:53 PM

that's the first pic I actually think Draper looks good in


(http://hillaryshort.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/s-gym-3.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 09:54:54 PM
that's the first pic I actually think Draper looks good in


(http://hillaryshort.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/s-gym-3.jpg)
Draper was great for the early 1960`s but had lots of weak points.

He looked cool though,and trained hard.................... .heard he was a very quiet and humble kid back then.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: musclecenter on November 15, 2011, 10:06:28 PM
Thanks for those great pics!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Stavios on November 15, 2011, 10:10:12 PM
EVOLUTION !



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: andreisdaman on November 15, 2011, 10:12:57 PM
I`ll add more pics later if anybody gives a fuck!  :)

keep it coming


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: andreisdaman on November 15, 2011, 10:18:14 PM
I never understood why Draper wasn't bigger in terms of celebrity and status in the bodybuilding world....I guess he didn't have the drive and killer instinct like Arnold


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 10:28:39 PM
I never understood why Draper wasn't bigger in terms of celebrity and status in the bodybuilding world....I guess he didn't have the drive and killer instinct like Arnold
He was very popular in the early 1960`s.....did tons of ads in the Weider mags for almost no pay.

Then Larry Scott,Oliva,Zane,and Arnold came along and from what I hear Dave drank and did a lot of drugs.....this is most likely what prevented him from winning more contests or improving beyond a certain point.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 10:31:54 PM
Thanks for those great pics!
No problem Coach.....more coming!!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: maxkane69 on November 15, 2011, 10:35:00 PM
No treadmills,no bosu balls,no bands or chains,no fitness queens,just black iron,sweat,desire,camaraderie,and intensity.

You forgot the most important thing : NO WORTHLESS ANNOYING PERSONAL TRAINERS!!!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 10:36:59 PM
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(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/davearb.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kwkQhTEDR60/R-uvFoZIrKI/AAAAAAAABFM/ZXtAJajawPk/s400/arnold.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach%3Btopic=348654.0%3Battach=385395%3Bimage)

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1nO2ch-R0Zp7W_sjwbvAvcWtT4Q32tTeD1-TE7u5CgV2QZZ6n&t=1)



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 10:41:21 PM
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(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2009/legendary_leon_brown_interview_v.jpg)

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRpeKKbQkxOu_O3k3NNnSCDBPpCFZju7d39-pS8NEPG4yyI7bIZ&t=1)

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxfWAu0V5jQ-mLyHFsPMRdaoqE7m0i6FMfBIjY7SAYcxCES8qDmQ&t=1)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 10:44:56 PM
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(http://www.puntofape.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/franco-columbu-12.jpg)

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50315_41999307756_3627_n.jpg)

(http://www.thedeadlift.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/stock/Columbu/franco-columbu-back.jpg)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=323.0;attach=5578;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 10:49:30 PM
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(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/c/e/ceb01-FrancoColumbu244.jpg)

(http://www.biojiem.com/Imagenes/Mr%20jaguar%2008/Roy%20velasco/Roy%20Columbu%20and%20Ed.JPG)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HbaApmpa-Po/SROswgEDhEI/AAAAAAAAAI0/vq4RqP8ZorY/s400/franco+deadlift.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 10:55:19 PM
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(http://granthestonfitness.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/chest_training_chest_workout1.jpg)

(http://hookedoniron.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ARNOLD-ROWING.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-98wXngoBZgY/TjGeUzHjpWI/AAAAAAAAAL4/eHrUsvZSkWU/s1600/arnold-squats.jpg)



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 10:59:45 PM
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(http://pics.prikol.ru/wp-content/gallery/october-2009/arnold-schwarzenegger-26.jpg)

(http://img27.echo.cx/img27/4128/db36em.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/muscleinq8/Arnold_Training_Calves.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 11:01:45 PM
You forgot the most important thing : NO WORTHLESS ANNOYING PERSONAL TRAINERS!!!
Right,and most know nothing about training hard..............just psuedo nonsense,not work!!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 11:19:54 PM
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(http://pds23.egloos.com/pds/201109/16/61/d0041161_4e7302e0eea6c.jpg)

(http://www.straighttothebar.com/images/posts/070716_sergiooliva.jpg)

(http://www.gymmorris.com/photos/MorrisPearlOlivaLurieBurkeLaLanne.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson331_r.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 15, 2011, 11:22:19 PM
 8)

(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/remembering/images/congress1970_5.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: balzac on November 16, 2011, 12:42:49 AM
8)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/36/images/Rick-Wayne%20(11).jpg)

sick build  :o

rick wayne, never heard of him...



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Spicoli on November 16, 2011, 12:42:55 AM
Thanks for the pics. Great thread. Reminds how BB used to be when I got started.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 16, 2011, 12:59:45 AM
I give a fuck!
Same - this is BB for me, I was born in the late 70's but these were the guys that inspired me to want to lift and be in shape, the guys today look stupid to me - post more please Wes  8)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 01:33:45 AM
8)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/36/images/Rick-Wayne%20(11).jpg)

sick build  :o

rick wayne, never heard of him...


He probably never heard of you either!!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 01:35:10 AM
Same - this is BB for me, I was born in the late 70's but these were the guys that inspired me to want to lift and be in shape, the guys today look stupid to me - post more please Wes  8)
Definately bro.....gotta` drink some coffee,train some victims clients,eat,train,eat again,then I`ll get busy posting more pics.  ;)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: GettingBig on November 16, 2011, 03:07:49 AM
thanks for the amazing pics Wes  :)

any idea what diet this guys followed back then ? it seems they always looked lean !!



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 03:10:25 AM
thanks for the amazing pics Wes  :)

any idea what diet this guys followed back then ? it seems they always looked lean !!



No problem brother!!  :)

High protein,moderate to high fat,low carbs......back in the 1970`s that is.

Not much cardio but 20 sets per most bodyparts twice weekly.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: TrueGrit on November 16, 2011, 03:11:55 AM
Someone posted a youtube of one of these guys answering that very question. It was pretty interesting. As Wes said, it was high protein and low carb. Lots of omelettes and cottage cheese. With a carby Sunday.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 16, 2011, 03:12:55 AM
No problem brother!!  :)

High protein,moderate to high fat,low carbs......back in the 1970`s that is.

Not much cardio but 20 sets per most bodyparts twice weekly.

Did they train quick like Gironda advocated ? I know Arnold said one of the things he changed when landing in the states was reducing rest between sets to 30 - 60 seconds and using more supersets etc to chase the pump - obviously heavy high rep squatting you wouldnt be resting 30 seconds  :D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 16, 2011, 03:31:38 AM
will .. please post the link from your avatar .. thanks bro  8)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 16, 2011, 04:47:32 AM
Great pics Wes, keep them coming, seeing these makes me want to go right to the gym and train


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Galvatron on November 16, 2011, 05:18:29 AM
the old school look hadn't anything to do with how they trained (except maybe for legs not being as prioritized, but that is also a question of equipment), the difference is drug use.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: ipne on November 16, 2011, 05:56:52 AM
i see nothing impressive with those photos. a bunch of wash-outs from the human race fleeing from the demands of life. perpetual teenagers playing boy's games instead of men's games. with the exception of the nazi they're all either dead or broke. may as well post post pictures of homeless bums.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: dangalak on November 16, 2011, 06:27:47 AM
GREAT GREAT PICS...THIS WAS WHY ME AND MOST OF THE GUYS BACK IN 80S STARTED THE SPORT...I MISS IT .REALLY SAD TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO BODYBUILDING


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: andreisdaman on November 16, 2011, 06:48:23 AM
i see nothing impressive with those photos. a bunch of wash-outs from the human race fleeing from the demands of life. perpetual teenagers playing boy's games instead of men's games. with the exception of the nazi they're all either dead or broke. may as well post post pictures of homeless bums.

If you don't see anything impressive with these pics then you are a stone cold bitter loser.....the aesthetics on these guys were amazing.....classic physiques with great lines and flowing details....their abs were amazing and these guys worked hard....I always admired Rick Wayne's physique....


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: ipne on November 16, 2011, 08:54:43 AM
"aesthetics" pay the  bills? provide security for later in life? is that why zabo and guiliani were broke and sponged off of joe gold and slept in the gym? real men work.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 08:57:42 AM
Just bombed delts,arms,forearms,and abs...........after I eat and  recoup a bit I`ll post more pics.

Glad you guys all like the thread......except for ipne the worlds worst gimmick!!  :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Salvatore Martinez on November 16, 2011, 09:02:13 AM
"aesthetics" pay the  bills? provide security for later in life? is that why zabo and guiliani were broke and sponged off of joe gold and slept in the gym? real men work.

you sure seem to know a lot about a subject you claim you dont care about.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 09:05:16 AM
 8)


OK,I`m gonna` stray a little bit from Golds Gym shots and the guys who trained there,but I`m sure you guys will find these pics awesome also.


(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=407.0;attach=7169;image)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_W1HsDawS3TY/TGSl16YWIyI/AAAAAAAAMwc/Gz9xrn_bjKs/s1600/Andreas+Cahling+with+Clint+Beyerle+at+the+AAU+Mr.+America+1977..jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/122/images/Johnny_Fuller_18.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_W1HsDawS3TY/TGSkrx9M0lI/AAAAAAAAMwU/zuORZV7Ca8k/s1600/Andreas+Cahling,+Ron+Teufel,+Manuel+Perry,+1977+Mr.+America.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 09:08:57 AM
 8)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/catalog/Archambault%201.jpg)

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQIh3gczWiN7aAU3zjNRSfg1jR-DPP4CLY7sF3TVTbg-StNxNtvypVQY-m0Fghttp://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1577.0;attach=9640;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1577.0;attach=9684;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1577.0;attach=9639;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on November 16, 2011, 09:17:07 AM
Look @ the tris on Manny!!

Thanks again, Tim!!!

Can't tell you enough how awesome these pics are!

By the way....Have a great Thanksgiving, bro!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 09:17:15 AM
 8)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1577.0;attach=9640;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=168.0;attach=8144;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=310979.0;attach=357049;image)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/10/images/Bob-Birdsong%20(23).jpg)



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 09:17:51 AM
Look @ the tris on Manny!!

Thanks again, Tim!!!

Can't tell you enough how awesome these pics are!

By the way....Have a great Thanksgiving, bro!
Right back at ya` bud!!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Salvatore Martinez on November 16, 2011, 09:20:02 AM
crazy upper body thickness on Manny especially considering he was over 6 feet tall.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: andreisdaman on November 16, 2011, 09:21:34 AM
"aesthetics" pay the  bills? provide security for later in life? is that why zabo and guiliani were broke and sponged off of joe gold and slept in the gym? real men work.


Real men chart their own course in life....bodybuilding was important to them for some reason and they pursued their goals.....they have to live with the consequences in the end.....Many of those guys had regular jobs....you act as if all they did was hang out in the gym all day...maybe Arnold and a select few others did because they had contracts with Weider....we are looking at the merits of their work vs the work that today's bodybuilders do.....its no contest....the old guys looked better and healthier


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 09:24:31 AM
 8)

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQV_mShZpzUzZAZ58FH2l6eQ_neXsFC1NBDa9U6FZO96YFbzBee&t=1http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/6/2/62c24-Sergio_Oliva_57.jpg)

(http://www.solid-gains.com/gallery/albums/bod-birdsong/Bob-Birdsong-15_sized.jpg)

(http://www.thenaturalmusclenetwork.com/HallofFame/nominations/Inductees/Bob-Gallucci/Bob-Gallucci-1981.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cLNySjyxXdg/Th6BT_9wv2I/AAAAAAAAGWg/d-KlXvQPGns/arnold-and-kent.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: the trainer on November 16, 2011, 09:29:32 AM
You forgot the most important thing : NO WORTHLESS ANNOYING PERSONAL TRAINERS!!!

WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT WILLIS, I NEED TO EAT MY BREAD.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: d0nny2600 on November 16, 2011, 09:29:46 AM
Great pics Wes. Thanks


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 09:37:14 AM
 8)

(http://forum.spam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2206&stc=1&d=1106602619)

(http://www.criticalbench.com/images/bodybuilders/Birdsong3.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/10/images/Bob-Birdsong%20(17).jpg)

(http://www.davedraper.com/fusionbb/fbbuploads/med_1285027750-callard3.jpg)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=113.0;attach=308;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 16, 2011, 09:40:17 AM
you sure seem to know a lot about a subject you claim you dont care about.
correct



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 09:40:59 AM
Great pics Wes. Thanks
No problem!  :)

Gotta` feed my face .....be back to post more later.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 16, 2011, 09:42:17 AM
Wes,

Great thread! Thanks & keep em coming!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 16, 2011, 09:42:29 AM
Don`t forget Manny Perry was Big Jim Slade in Kentucky Fried Movie,one of the funniest films of all time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcLvkVDLkPQ


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 10:22:59 AM
Wes,

Great thread! Thanks & keep em coming!
You`re quite welcome brother!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 10:29:57 AM
 8)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=113.0;attach=277;image)

(http://forum.iron-age-classic-bodybuilding.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=6f0a54fbb12fa3ed5693a3408cb305cc&action=dlattach%3Btopic=7578.0%3Bid=7667%3Bimage)

(http://my-pt.co.kr/bbs_pics/data/Roger_Callard_19.jpg)

(http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/201226/gd/130271922531/bodybuilding-Tom-en-met-plein-les-yeux-a-Roger-Callard.jpg)

(http://www.americanwrestlingfederation.com/RCallard0004.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on November 16, 2011, 10:30:53 AM
 >:(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on November 16, 2011, 10:32:16 AM
 :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: apply85 on November 16, 2011, 10:34:09 AM
dave's drapers muscles are ugly


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 10:37:52 AM
 8)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/catalog/Callardbw2.jpg)

(http://www.davedraper.com/fusionbb/fbbuploads/med_1241021687-SergeandDave.jpg)

(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/history/history_71mro1.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1264431521/med_gallery_1_4_34880.jpg)

(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/history/history_72mro4.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: xpac2 on November 16, 2011, 10:54:47 AM
Great thread man. This is what a bodybuilding board is about! Not some faker pretending he is the king of hormones or a guys who copy's and pastes stupid political posts all day.

Keep it coming!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 11:01:35 AM
A young Gunther Schlierkamp............b elieve it or not.

(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/Tyrol3/Batman.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 11:07:08 AM
 8)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/All%20Bodybuilder%20Photos/ROGER_CALLARD.jpg)

(http://www.handsomemasculinemen.com/male-bodybuilder-photography/Frank-Zane-Muscle-God.jpg)

(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/e/b/ebcf4-sergio_and_serge.jpg)

(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/history/history_72mro7.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EawWEIHmw5U/TAQVVVwAudI/AAAAAAAAADY/tfFkkTBDJ5g/s1600/serge+arnold1.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 11:13:24 AM
 8)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/S5FtUuYnAtI/AAAAAAAAHaA/551R6NnzsIs/s400/Samir+Bannout+-+www.Musclebase.Blogspot.com+-+07.JPG)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/170/images/SamirBannout_202.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/jakescakes/SamirBannout121.jpg)

(http://forum.spam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12611&stc=1&d=1274589960)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/2011%20Bodybuilding%20pix/Charles%20Clairmonte%20600%20pix%20edited/Charles%20Clairmonte%20&%20Samir%20Bannout%201990%20Worlds.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Thespritz0 on November 16, 2011, 11:13:43 AM
dave's drapers muscles are ugly
^^
That's why he never won Mr. Olympia, he also had very short biceps (huge gap at the elbow...). :P


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 11:18:15 AM
 8)

(http://www.legendaryfitness.com/makkawy1.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1144.jpg)

(http://athlete.ru/fotos/profi/samir_bannout/samir_bannout_031.jpg)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/All%20Bodybuilder%20Photos/V-100PIC1.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Swlabr on November 16, 2011, 11:28:45 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EawWEIHmw5U/TAQVVVwAudI/AAAAAAAAADY/tfFkkTBDJ5g/s1600/serge+arnold1.jpg)

Holy shit, look at the difference in chest thickness. :o


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Borracho on November 16, 2011, 12:13:07 PM
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/7/1/71131-sn245.jpg)

Best physique ever, for me. Perfect blend of muscularity and aesthetics.

I agree.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 12:16:57 PM
I`ll add more later.  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Parker on November 16, 2011, 12:32:06 PM
Don`t forget Manny Perry was Big Jim Slade in Kentucky Fried Movie,one of the funniest films of all time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcLvkVDLkPQ
The chick in that clip was banging, and the one in the scene with the Rabbi, is a well known pinup girl and b movie actress from that era.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hematocritter on November 16, 2011, 12:35:29 PM
I agree.
me too

I think he was the most underrated BB of all time.
Such perfect symmetry, and a tight V-taper.
This is the look every average joe would admire, and every
woman would go crazy for.
He is muscular enough to look like a bodybuilder, yet still
athletic enough to be able to sprint or take a few flights
of stairs with ease. The same can't be said for any of today's
physiques.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: MikMaq on November 16, 2011, 12:39:12 PM
One thing I notice in a lot of the arnold photos is that he always seems to have everyone laughing.  He is doing funny stuff in the photos as well.  Seems like he would have been a very charismatic and fun individual to have known back  in the day.
He also seems to have the optimum standing position in every single photo, the guy was all ego, I'm pretty sure he was unbearable to be around. Everything about him suggests this.

Don't get me wrong the dream is awsome and he did look like a god, but everything was very calculated.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: THEBOSS on November 16, 2011, 12:42:56 PM
8)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=113.0;attach=277;image)

(http://forum.iron-age-classic-bodybuilding.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=6f0a54fbb12fa3ed5693a3408cb305cc&action=dlattach%3Btopic=7578.0%3Bid=7667%3Bimage)

(http://my-pt.co.kr/bbs_pics/data/Roger_Callard_19.jpg)

(http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/201226/gd/130271922531/bodybuilding-Tom-en-met-plein-les-yeux-a-Roger-Callard.jpg)

(http://www.americanwrestlingfederation.com/RCallard0004.jpg)
Thats not GREG PLITT


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 12:46:23 PM
He also seems to have the optimum standing position in every single photo, the guy was all ego, I'm pretty sure he was unbearable to be around. Everything about him suggests this.

Don't get me wrong the dream is awsome and he did look like a god, but everything was very calculated.
From all accounts,Arnold was a lot of fun to hang out with back in the day.

He was fun loving and lived the life he dreamed of living............ which means he was pretty much  happy.

Everybody from back then that hung with him,speaks very highly of him for the most part.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Rudee on November 16, 2011, 12:55:11 PM
Ah, the good old days.   Nowdays you have clowns in the gym working out with hoodies on thinking they look cool.   


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: apply85 on November 16, 2011, 12:56:37 PM
gotta repost this pic for sickness

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/2011%20Bodybuilding%20pix/Charles%20Clairmonte%20600%20pix%20edited/Charles%20Clairmonte%20&%20Samir%20Bannout%201990%20Worlds.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: MikMaq on November 16, 2011, 01:00:33 PM
From all accounts,Arnold was a lot of fun to hang out with back in the day.

He was fun loving and lived the life he dreamed of living............ which means he was pretty much  happy.

Everybody from back then that hung with him,speaks very highly of him for the most part.
I get the legend but I really have to question how much actual time he spent with the other guys besides franco hell he didn't speak that much english in his early years, and later own was busy with many other parts of the business, I've always got the feeling it'd be one gym appearance a week nothing more, when he was basically just building a network base.

It looks like alot of people just want cred for knowing the legend rather than actually being that close to him.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: flinstones1 on November 16, 2011, 01:04:38 PM
8)

(http://www.americanwrestlingfederation.com/Gold%27sLogo.JPG)

(http://hillaryshort.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/s-gym-3.jpg)

(http://www.americanwrestlingfederation.com/RicArnoldKen2.JPG)

that is what makes you want to be a bodybuilder. today it's more about becoming a freakshow/mutant clownass


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: apply85 on November 16, 2011, 01:12:02 PM
if u dont get why people would lie about liking arnold u don't know people


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: GettingBig on November 16, 2011, 01:45:16 PM
No problem brother!!  :)

High protein,moderate to high fat,low carbs......back in the 1970`s that is.

Not much cardio but 20 sets per most bodyparts twice weekly.


thanks for the info bro.

I have to say this this era and physiques makes me hate what's going on nowadays !! all I see nowadays freaks with guts and thick mid sections and thick skin and no definitions.

i guess the mega doses nowadays and eating style killed the old school physiques !

I'm not sure how many grams they used back then but whatever they used they looked amazing.

again thanks for the pictures bro you really made bodybuilding feels beautiful once again.



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 01:51:48 PM
if u dont get why people would lie about liking arnold u don't know people
This is way before he became involved in politics and was in his 20`s and 30`s.......use your head.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 01:53:41 PM
thanks for the info bro.

I have to say this this era and physiques makes me hate what's going on nowadays !! all I see nowadays freaks with guts and thick mid sections and thick skin and no definitions.

i guess the mega doses nowadays and eating style killed the old school physiques !

I'm not sure how many grams they used back then but whatever they used they looked amazing.

again thanks for the pictures bro you really made bodybuilding feels beautiful once again.


Thanks bud,it`s a pleasure.....I enjoy these old pics as much as anyone........maybe even more since I`m a relic of sorts myself!!  LOL  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 01:59:33 PM
I get the legend but I really have to question how much actual time he spent with the other guys besides franco hell he didn't speak that much english in his early years, and later own was busy with many other parts of the business, I've always got the feeling it'd be one gym appearance a week nothing more, when he was basically just building a network base.

It looks like alot of people just want cred for knowing the legend rather than actually being that close to him.
He "appeared" at the gym 6 X a week bro and trained with Draper,Katz,Robby,Callard,Gable,ColombuPadilla,Giuliani,Drasin,Zabo,Dave Dupree,and many others.......also hung out with them after training,going to the beach,getting pussy,eating in restaurants,etc..etc.

He was young and living the life he planned...............wh ich was to be on the top of the bodybuilding ladder.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: apply85 on November 16, 2011, 02:28:42 PM
politics in terms of governership has nothing to do with it, politics in terms of social politics of every day life has everything to do with it


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 02:30:48 PM
politics in terms of governership has nothing to do with it, politics in terms of social politics of every day life has everything to do with it
Go work on that future bestselling novel will ya` ?

Can`t wait to read it!!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: MikMaq on November 16, 2011, 02:35:08 PM
He "appeared" at the gym 6 X a week bro and trained with Draper,Katz,Robby,Callard,Gable,ColombuPadilla,Giuliani,Drasin,Zabo,Dave Dupree,and many others.......also hung out with them after training,going to the beach,getting pussy,eating in restaurants,etc..etc.

He was young and living the life he planned...............wh ich was to be on the top of the bodybuilding ladder.
I've heard the stories before, but what time period are you actually talking about, after he learned english, and before he made stay hungry.

I've always felt the image of their friendships was much on the level of extreme sports athletes who pretend to be part of the be super friends crew in order to sell product.

Granted columbo was for sure arnolds bud, but the rest seem to only be there for photo opps in the 10 weeks before a show.

Again I could be wrong, but I think the golden years were far fewer and far sparser than we are lead to believe.


This is way before he became involved in politics and was in his 20`s and 30`s.......use your head.

It was a time period before he turned 28, and for the longest time he didn't speaka de english.

It wasn't politics it was business, to sell the sport you had to sell the characters/image, they even admit that it was very intentional during pumping iron.



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Galvatron on November 16, 2011, 02:36:28 PM
must be a toilet paper novel


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 02:41:15 PM
must be a toilet paper novel
Yup!!  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: apply85 on November 16, 2011, 02:42:31 PM
i love how wes thinks that what he saw in pumping iron is exactly real life, like all arnold did was workout and hang out with bodybuilders and go to restaurants and the beach, man you are fucking clueless wes


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 02:43:17 PM
I've heard the stories before, but what time period are you actually talking about, after he learned english, and before he made stay hungry.

I've always felt the image of their friendships was much on the level of extreme sports athletes who pretend to be part of the be super friends crew in order to sell product.

Granted columbo was for sure arnolds bud, but the rest seem to only be there for photo opps in the 10 weeks before a show.

Again I could be wrong, but I think the golden years were far fewer and far sparser than we are lead to believe.

It was a time period before he turned 28, and for the longest time he didn't speaka de english.

It wasn't politics it was business, to sell the sport you had to sell the characters/image, they even admit that it was very intentional during pumping iron.


OK,I conced defeat,he hated people and everyone hated him.

I`m just going by accounts that I`ve heard.......same as you since we don`t know as we weren`t there.

Satisfied?

If not I can throw in  a few more adjectives to put his mystique and credibility down another notch or two.

GEEZUS!!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: MikMaq on November 16, 2011, 02:46:20 PM
OK,I conced defeat,he hated people and everyone hated him.

I`m just going by accounts that I`ve heard.......same as you since we don`t know as we weren`t there.

Satisfied?

If not I can throw in  a few more adjectives to put his mystique and credibility down another notch or two.

GEEZUS!!
Lolz man I wouldn't go that far, but the difference between them and us going to the gym is simple. They looked perfect, and were payed to basically sell a sport, it was a job, just like any other, granted a very good job, but much of what actually happen was completely independent of golds.

Just like anyone else, partying, and fucking hoes, it gets very borning after a few months, these weren't teenagers out having a good old time they were men just like any other.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 02:48:52 PM
Lolz man I wouldn't go that far, but the difference between them and us going to the gym is simple. They looked perfect, and were payed to basically sell a sport, it was a job, just like any other, granted a very good job, but much of what actually happen was completely independent of golds.

Just like anyone else, partying, and fucking hoes, it gets very borning after a few months, these weren't teenagers out having a good old time they were men just like any other.
C`mon bro,do you believe that pro football players or beaseball players their ages would act any different.

Of course they make/made much more money than a bodybuilder.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: maxkane69 on November 16, 2011, 02:49:05 PM
Watching this pictures give me mixed feelings!
Infact this pictures remind me how much I love bodybuilding the way was back then ,but at the same time remind me how much I hate bodybuiding how became today!  :(
FOR GOD SAKE! HOW DID WE GO FROM SERGE NUBRET TO BRANCH WARREN??? >:(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Galvatron on November 16, 2011, 02:51:46 PM
That's how it is. I remember watching Predator in the morning and then going to the gym and blasting out chest and back arnold style...incredible pump.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: MikMaq on November 16, 2011, 02:52:38 PM
C`mon bro,do you believe that pro football players or beaseball players their ages would act any different.

Of course they make/made much more money than a bodybuilder.
The other major difference is that they toured together for several seasons. It's alot difference for showing up for practice a few times a week before a contest, and spending years of your life together on tour.

Even athletes are alot more borning than most people think, sure there are the wild guys dripping in std's and on tons of blow, but these same guys you'll find in any office.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: the trainer on November 16, 2011, 02:58:42 PM
bodybuilding going mainstream was not really a good thing, now all the gyms have turned into pussies and filled with skinny twinks who think they are the shit,  they will drop their money on personal training so that counts for something i guess.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 03:01:57 PM
bodybuilding going mainstream was not really a good thing, now all the gyms have turned into pussies and filled with skinny twinks who think they are the shit,  they will drop their money on personal training so that counts for something i guess.
^THIS^


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 16, 2011, 03:03:17 PM
i love how wes thinks that what he saw in pumping iron is exactly real life, like all arnold did was workout and hang out with bodybuilders and go to restaurants and the beach, man you are fucking clueless wes

Before I write the next post let me answer this first............not all the time but yes, most of the time it was like that. I trained there during those times (not the original but the second golds). Training sessions didn't last 45mins but rather 1-1/2 hours usually twice per day. They (we) trained 6 days per week. It was literally eat, sleep and train. There was camaraderie back then, most gyms back then had family atmosphere (they were the family) and damn near everyone trained hard and I mean fucking HARD. So unless you were actually there....STFU!  



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 03:03:59 PM
i love how wes thinks that what he saw in pumping iron is exactly real life, like all arnold did was workout and hang out with bodybuilders and go to restaurants and the beach, man you are fucking clueless wes
You know nothing about me other than what I post.

I live in reality and I know these guys were human with human problems,but when young and doing exactly what you want for the most part,it can`t be all that bad.

As far as being clueless goes..I forgot more shit than you`ll ever possibly be able to garner in your life.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 03:04:56 PM
Before I write the next post let me answer this first............not all the time but yes, most of the time it was like that. I trained there during those times (not the original but the second golds). Training sessions didn't last 45mins but rather 1-1/2 hours usually twice per day. They (we) trained 6 days per week. It was literally eat, sleep and train. There was camaraderie back then, most gyms back then had family atmosphere (they were the family) and damn near everyone trained hard and I mean fucking HARD. So unless you were actually there....STFU! 


Thank you Joe...............from a real bodybuilder who was there at the time!!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 03:07:30 PM
An article I wrote for bb.com if anybody`s interested.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/wescott9.htm


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 16, 2011, 03:10:00 PM
bodybuilding going mainstream was not really a good thing, now all the gyms have turned into pussies and filled with skinny twinks who think they are the shit,  they will drop their money on personal training so that counts for something i guess.

Many youngsters have zero patience. They want a muscular body in no time, just for the image. They lack the willpower to train hard and consistend. I feel sorry for them, when I hear them talking about supplements or gear, while they don't know shit about good nutrition and proper training. They need education!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Ex Coelis on November 16, 2011, 03:12:25 PM
a bunch of semi employed narcissistic drug users

great physiques though


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 16, 2011, 03:13:47 PM
Everyone should look hard at the gym pics, not the bodybuilder but the inside the old gym pics. This is the type of equipment that help create thick and powerful looking physiques. None of the fancy bullshit you see today that makes training easy. You see a lat pull down, seated row, a calf machine an old school leg extension and leg presses back then were 90 degree leg presses.


This is one of the best threads on here to date regarding bodybuilding. I guaranty very few pros of today would be able to handle the training back then. As as matter of fact because of the equipment used today (more machines than actual free weight) they would easily injure themselves.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Chick on November 16, 2011, 03:14:11 PM
You know nothing about me other than what I post.

I live in reality and I know these guys were human with human problems,but when young and doing exactly what you want for the most part,it can`t be all that bad.

As far as being clueless goes..I forgot more shit than you`ll ever possibly be able to garner in your life.

LOL....love it.  Attaboy Wes!!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Galvatron on November 16, 2011, 03:15:36 PM
East coast (later west coast)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZoUCbIhEY-s/SuLxoBDnINI/AAAAAAAABnM/Bc_mUYbbJb4/s400/1962lc1.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 03:15:56 PM
Many youngsters have zero patience. They want a muscular body in no time, just for the image. They lack the willpower to train hard and consistend. I feel sorry for them, when I hear them talking about supplements or gear, while they don't know shit about good nutrition and proper training. They need education!

Tons of guys ask me all the time what supplements I take.......I ask them what their current diet is and I have to tell them to nail their nutrition first and then worry about buying bogus supplements.

Most of the time (99%) they are eating total shit 3 X a day  with no regard for how much of each macro they need or are ingesting.

I know some are newbies and I try to offer advice,but some of these idiots have been training forever.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 03:16:58 PM
LOL....love it.  Attaboy Wes!!
Gotta` keep it real Chick!!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 03:17:33 PM
East coast (later west coast)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZoUCbIhEY-s/SuLxoBDnINI/AAAAAAAABnM/Bc_mUYbbJb4/s400/1962lc1.jpg)
First man with muscular 21 inch arms.....Leroy Colbert.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Galvatron on November 16, 2011, 03:17:45 PM
We are the Greatest!! We are the Guardians of Mt Olympus!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZoUCbIhEY-s/S9bNaBjL5JI/AAAAAAAADc4/XnPLLkHuOms/s1600/1956y01x.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
We are the Greatest!! We are the Guardians of Mt Olympus!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZoUCbIhEY-s/S9bNaBjL5JI/AAAAAAAADc4/XnPLLkHuOms/s1600/1956y01x.jpg)
LOL  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Galvatron on November 16, 2011, 03:22:18 PM
(http://www.ghettoredhot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/get-it-girl.gif)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 16, 2011, 03:23:39 PM
East coast (later west coast)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZoUCbIhEY-s/SuLxoBDnINI/AAAAAAAABnM/Bc_mUYbbJb4/s400/1962lc1.jpg)

I remember he kept saying he was natural. He had the smooth look of a nattie, but those arms...  ???


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Galvatron on November 16, 2011, 03:23:59 PM
Danny Padilla (representing rochester!!!)

(http://clay_b8690.tripod.com/PadillaDanny/DPadilla0010.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 03:54:09 PM
 8)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1264431521/med_gallery_1_4_110063.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1264431521/med_gallery_1_4_43385.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1304597163/med_gallery_496_4_1711.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1264343571/med_gallery_1_4_15747.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1264343571/med_gallery_1_4_38640.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 03:57:42 PM
 8)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1315032137/med_gallery_496_4_4207.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1315032137/med_gallery_496_4_11239.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1314563637/med_gallery_496_4_494.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1314563637/med_gallery_496_4_29344.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 16, 2011, 04:00:21 PM
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/7/1/71131-sn245.jpg)

Best physique ever, for me. Perfect blend of muscularity and aesthetics.
definetly top 3 for me
can you imagine a guru telling arnold to train less...
a la haney phil heath
todays pros are lazy fucks


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 04:12:48 PM
definetly top 3 for me
can you imagine a guru telling arnold to train less...
a la haney phil heath
todays pros are lazy fucks
Good post!!

Great shot of Nubret also.........he was awesome!!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 04:17:07 PM
 8)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1314563637/med_gallery_496_4_13322.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1312893851/med_gallery_496_4_3671.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1312893851/med_gallery_496_4_2611.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1312893851/med_gallery_1_4_93025.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 04:23:13 PM
 8)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1312880827/med_gallery_1_4_62698.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1312880827/med_gallery_1_4_78868.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1312880827/med_gallery_1_4_17065.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1310980985/med_gallery_1_4_21761.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 16, 2011, 04:23:37 PM
You're breaking the law, over and over again, Wes  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 04:28:14 PM
You're breaking the law, over and over again, Wes  ;D
Been doing it all my life bro!!  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 04:36:10 PM
 8)

(http://www.ifbb.com/contestresults/mensworld/77_middle.jpg)

(http://www.solid-gains.com/gallery/albums/albert-beckles/Albert-Beckles-15_sized.jpg)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1037.0;attach=6075;image)

(http://www.bodybuildingreviews.net/MHOF/RobbieRobinson/robinson8.jpg)

(http://bbs.v6.com.cn/attachments/uploadimg/img_110721/20110721_233d227c90c4bbee9c3b681972578.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: littlechris on November 16, 2011, 04:47:39 PM
i see nothing impressive with those photos. a bunch of wash-outs from the human race fleeing from the demands of life. perpetual teenagers playing boy's games instead of men's games. with the exception of the nazi they're all either dead or broke. may as well post post pictures of homeless bums.

^^^^^TRUTH^^^^


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Stavios on November 16, 2011, 04:48:16 PM
I don't see any vince basile shots ???


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 04:49:36 PM
^^^^^TRUTH^^^^
Bodybuilding History 101 right here son.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 04:57:53 PM
Bob Chick in da` house!!

(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Bob_Cicherillo/Cicherillo_006.jpg)

(http://www.solid-gains.com/gallery/albums/bob-cicherillo/Bob-Cicherillo-16_sized.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cp9IZjqg77Q/TSCSl5x1ZjI/AAAAAAAAAFE/JU9D1X1f-xc/s1600/006+delts+Bob+Cicherillo+EZ-BAR+UPRIGHT+ROW.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006masters_ngt_men41.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 05:31:42 PM
 8)

(http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20450&stc=1&d=1272230653)

(http://www.legendaryleonbrown.com/leonsfriends_clip_image039.jpg)

(http://fakel.biz/uploads/posts/2011-01/1296425685_fakel.biz_kulturisty_pictures0000021.jpg)

(http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20448&stc=1&d=1272230117)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Vince B on November 16, 2011, 05:39:52 PM
I trained at Golds for a month in October 1968. I arrived there the same week Arnold did. Draper trained early in the morning. Arnold came in later with an entourage. Zabo and Joe were running the place. Joe never walked past a mirror without checking himself! Chuck Collas was there. They called him the gopher. I told Joe I was bulking up a la Malcolm Brenner and Joe tapped on his wooden desk to indicate he thought I was daft. He looked at me and said 180. That meant that was how big I would be in contest condition. In those days we weren't cut up like today. No one had glute striations and we kept them covered in any case. No homo!

Here is a photo I took in 1968. It was published in Muscle Training Illustrated.  


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 16, 2011, 05:51:38 PM
good job wes bringing the past ,,,


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 05:51:45 PM
I trained at Golds for a month in October 1968. I arrived there the same week Arnold did. Draper trained early in the morning. Arnold came in later with an entourage. Zabo and Joe were running the place. Joe never walked past a mirror without checking himself! Chuck Collas was there. They called him the gopher. I told Joe I was bulking up a la Malcolm Brenner and Joe tapped on his wooden desk to indicate he thought I was daft. He looked at me and said 180. That meant that was how big I would be in contest condition. In those days we weren't cut up like today. No one had glute striations and we kept them covered in any case. No homo!

Here is a photo I took in 1968. It was published in Muscle Training Illustrated.  
Great pic Vince...thanks.

Forgot all about Charlie Fautz...wow!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 16, 2011, 05:52:48 PM
good job wes bringing the past ,,,
Well,when your middle name is "Past",it`s not that hard to do bro..........thanks,glad you llike the pics!!  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: andreisdaman on November 16, 2011, 06:58:42 PM
:(


I think this is Joe Weider's wife...she was so awesome back in the day..had fantastic curves


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 16, 2011, 07:11:41 PM
2nd pic of bob b/w looks awesome there,,


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: gib on November 16, 2011, 08:17:21 PM
No pix of Zyzz?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: ozman on November 16, 2011, 09:23:48 PM
great pics mate

thanks


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Thespritz0 on November 16, 2011, 09:24:03 PM
I trained at Golds for a month in October 1968. I arrived there the same week Arnold did. Draper trained early in the morning. Arnold came in later with an entourage. Zabo and Joe were running the place. Joe never walked past a mirror without checking himself! Chuck Collas was there. They called him the gopher. I told Joe I was bulking up a la Malcolm Brenner and Joe tapped on his wooden desk to indicate he thought I was daft. He looked at me and said 180. That meant that was how big I would be in contest condition. In those days we weren't cut up like today. No one had glute striations and we kept them covered in any case. No homo!

Here is a photo I took in 1968. It was published in Muscle Training Illustrated.  
^^
That must have been an amazing experience Vince!  I'm from Vancouver, Canada by the way... I still say the biggest mystery in bodybuilding history would be seeing just how Arnold trained for the 1980 Olympia in Sydney in 7-8 weeks, you took THE BEST photos of that contest- I've STILL got the Musclemag Annual from back then, in perfect shape...


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Stavios on November 16, 2011, 09:26:07 PM
I trained at Golds for a month in October 1968. I arrived there the same week Arnold did. Draper trained early in the morning. Arnold came in later with an entourage. Zabo and Joe were running the place. Joe never walked past a mirror without checking himself! Chuck Collas was there. They called him the gopher. I told Joe I was bulking up a la Malcolm Brenner and Joe tapped on his wooden desk to indicate he thought I was daft. He looked at me and said 180. That meant that was how big I would be in contest condition. In those days we weren't cut up like today. No one had glute striations and we kept them covered in any case. No homo!

Here is a photo I took in 1968. It was published in Muscle Training Illustrated.  
;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Vince B on November 16, 2011, 09:43:30 PM
In the old days the AAU Mr America was a big title. The weightlifting crowd under Bob Hoffman from York were behind that show. They held it after the lifting finished and one night the bodybuilding show didn't start until after midnight! They brought in rules to more or less eliminate the muscleheads on Muscle Beach. No posing in G-strings for gay mags, no tattoos, no bums. Malcolm Brenner missed out on that title and so did Zabo and even Larry Scott. Larry went on to win Joe's version and Sergio did the same thing after losing to his mate, Bob Gajda in 1966.

Malcolm Brenner was a huge guy in those days. He was one of the first who bulked up. They should bring back those days and do away with all this gay shit posing in thongs that we see at the professional level.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 17, 2011, 02:35:04 AM

I think this is Joe Weider's wife...she was so awesome back in the day..had fantastic curves
betty weider was one hot number


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 17, 2011, 02:36:04 AM
will .. please post the link from your avatar .. thanks bro  8)
Asking the guy who's avatar I stole it from to give me the pic bro  :D hopefully post tomorrow  ;)



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 17, 2011, 02:37:00 AM
Did they train quick like Gironda advocated ? I know Arnold said one of the things he changed when landing in the states was reducing rest between sets to 30 - 60 seconds and using more supersets etc to chase the pump - obviously heavy high rep squatting you wouldnt be resting 30 seconds  :D
Bump for Wes  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 02:48:52 AM
Bump for Wes  :)
Gotta` hit the gym in a few minutes bro.....I`ll post more when I get back.  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 17, 2011, 02:50:21 AM
Gotta` hit the gym in a few minutes bro.....I`ll post more when I get back.  :)
Good stuff.. have a good train bro - go hard  8)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: vic86 on November 17, 2011, 05:11:33 AM
Cool thread! it must have been awesome back then. As bodybuilding was upcoming at that time, what kind of jobs everyone do? ?back in 70s and 80s.

Keith Jones will be missed in this thread.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: vic86 on November 17, 2011, 05:13:41 AM
 :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: andreisdaman on November 17, 2011, 05:31:07 AM
betty weider was one hot number

agreed...AMAZING curves


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: jprc10 on November 17, 2011, 05:49:44 AM
Betty Weider had some hot curves that for sure.

(http://www.ironguru.com/images/stories/betty-weider-vince-gironda.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: jprc10 on November 17, 2011, 05:51:57 AM
Betty Weider had some hot curves that for sure.

(http://www.ironguru.com/images/stories/betty-weider-vince-gironda.jpg)

That for me is what a fit hot woman's body should look like, none of today's capped delts, full of veins, ripped abs, muscular fitness chicks.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: andreisdaman on November 17, 2011, 07:05:29 AM
That for me is what a fit hot woman's body should look like, none of today's capped delts, full of veins, ripped abs, muscular fitness chicks.

Betty Weider's body is actually perfect...a true feminine physique....I wonder how many guys tried to bang her behind Weider's back and then had to incur his wrath when he found out..I'm sure Joe banished a lot of guys from the IFBB for flirting with his wife


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Megalodon on November 17, 2011, 07:15:38 AM
That for me is what a fit hot woman's body should look like, none of today's capped delts, full of veins, ripped abs, muscular fitness chicks.


Also..... NO FAKE BREASTS!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 08:19:34 AM
 8)

(http://www.edcorney.net/covers/dec1970cov.JPG)

(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/attachments/bodybuilding-discussion/10602d1192360266-1970s-bodybuilder-richard-baldwin-richardbaldwin1-1-.jpg)

(http://bodybuilding_workout.home.insightbb.com/trainingarticles/elias_petsas/images/elias1b.jpg)

(http://www.wannabebig.com/wp-content/themes/mimboPro_single/images/article_images/interviews/darden7_small.jpg)

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=565961&d=1176578081)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 08:24:21 AM
 8)

(http://www.home-workout-success.com/image-files/arnold-schwarzenegger.jpg)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/09%20bodybuilding%20pix/arnold%20s%20for%20web/1970-Arnold-&-Zane-70-U-winners.jpg)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/09%20bodybuilding%20pix/1970-NABBA-U-Arnold-Dunbar-Draper.jpg)

(http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/patneve/patneve8.jpg)

(http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/dennistinerino/dennistinerino12.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 08:42:34 AM
 8)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7wrm3mMQ6E8/TaW0u61uBvI/AAAAAAAAFEE/_qDaxL8jApY/s1600/Arnold+Schwarzenegger+03.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/attachments/bodybuilding-discussion/10604d1192360266-1970s-bodybuilder-richard-baldwin-richardbaldwin6-1-.jpg)

(http://www.encyclopediaofalabama.org/media_content/m-3146.jpg)

(http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/201226/gd/128784091612/60-s-Bodybuider-du-peplum-ici-Reg-Park-avant-d-aller-tourner-a-Cinecitta.jpg)

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/fox/bf96.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 08:54:35 AM
 8)

(https://tnation.t-nation.com/img/tnn/backgrounds/bg-black.png)

(http://davedraper.com/fusionbb/fbbuploads/med_1234848883-Bill_Grant__004__.jpg)

(http://pi.b5z.net/i/u/230085/i/Danny_Padilla_Bodybuilder_a.JPG)

(http://mmatrainingworkoutsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/robby-robinson.jpg)

(http://i36.tinypic.com/b6efc3.jpg)

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/nubret/sn137.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 09:09:32 AM
 8)

(http://bigarnold.ru/sites/default/files/xmg116_0.jpg)

(http://www.ifbb.com/halloffame/2006/DennisTinerino2.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1323/0/d/roycalender-mikementzer-boyercoe-dannypadilla-dennistinnerino-frankzane-chrisdickerson-kenwalker-tonyemmott1224513020.jpg)

(http://davedraper.com/site%20images/dennis-tinerino-frank-zane.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/attachments/old-school-pictures/4575d1152829264-sergio-oliva-sergio14.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hematocritter on November 17, 2011, 09:11:37 AM
^^^^^TRUTH^^^^

I don't get it?
Isn't this a bodybuilding site?
Why do so many people here seem to hate bodybuilding and bodybuilders?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 09:12:16 AM
I don't get it?
Isn't this a bodybuilding site?
Why do so many people here seem to hate bodybuilding and bodybuilders?
I often wonder that myself  ???


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
 8)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1312.0;attach=8390;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=776.0;attach=4298;image)

(http://www.ambal.ru/93202434515.jpg)

(http://athlete.ru/fotos/profi/reeves/steve_reeves_014.jpg)

(http://tribunsky.ru/img/glass.jpg)

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/60/04/68/charle11.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: vinnydountsnyc on November 17, 2011, 09:22:48 AM
LOVE OLD TIME BB ! BTW BETTY GOT PASSED AROUND LIKE A THANKSGIVING TURKEY :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on November 17, 2011, 09:27:56 AM
That for me is what a fit hot woman's body should look like, none of today's capped delts, full of veins, ripped abs, muscular fitness chicks.
Mrs. Weider is such a babe.....great physique!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: andreisdaman on November 17, 2011, 09:31:22 AM
I don't get it?
Isn't this a bodybuilding site?
Why do so many people here seem to hate bodybuilding and bodybuilders?


it's weird..its a combination of immaturity, gay denial, and jealousy....most guys enjoy bodybuilding and appreciate the work that these guys had to do to attain their physiques....you admire them for that ......others on here show up to hate on these guys due to the reasons listed above


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on November 17, 2011, 09:32:55 AM
Arnie's legs look very good in many of these pics!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: andreisdaman on November 17, 2011, 09:33:21 AM
LOVE OLD TIME BB ! BTW BETTY GOT PASSED AROUND LIKE A THANKSGIVING TURKEY :)

I doubt it....unless Joe really was a Schmoe as some have insinuated and he was using her as a beard


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: GettingBig on November 17, 2011, 09:38:18 AM
I don't get it?
Isn't this a bodybuilding site?
Why do so many people here seem to hate bodybuilding and bodybuilders?

i always wondered the same ! maybe just haters with low life.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 17, 2011, 09:43:39 AM
That one picture of Roger Callard he looked amazing. I forgotten how good he was. To bad he had to go against an in shape Danny Padilla.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on November 17, 2011, 09:50:12 AM
Charles Glass looks sensational!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 09:53:05 AM
 8)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/2/images/Charles_Glass%20(9).jpg)

(http://www.gmvbodybuilding.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Glass-Williams.jpg)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/products/GMV-005DVDLG.jpg)

(http://muscleshots.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/mystery23.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=142521.0;attach=159629;image)

(http://www.darkwoods.com/bodybuilder/male/bb/gallery/fullsize/terra01.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 17, 2011, 09:59:30 AM
Wes, what are you doing on the computer?  Get back in the gym.  You know the rules.  The computer is only to be used for looking at naked chicks.  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 10:04:50 AM
 8)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/DVDimages3/GMV-024DVD.jpg)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/09%20bodybuilding%20pix/Victor-Terra.jpg)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/catalog/gmv138.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L9MAUaB0xFQ/TCrfKnx3GEI/AAAAAAAABAo/wqWJrwTz4Pw/s1600/6.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/130/images/Lee%20Labrada79.jpg)

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQhbDNqqOuvWVJouw2EkiXIg3PXDpRQKXg649DbAHqRmHOMmeHDlu-RduxUsg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/33/images/Mike-Antorino%20(2).jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 10:06:01 AM
Wes, what are you doing on the computer?  Get back in the gym.  You know the rules.  The computer is only to be used for looking at naked chicks.  ;D
I already trained legs at 6:30 this morning and presently my wife is running around naked!!  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: jprc10 on November 17, 2011, 10:13:22 AM
 :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 10:15:12 AM
:)

Curvy........  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on November 17, 2011, 10:35:53 AM
:)YIKES



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 17, 2011, 10:40:57 AM
Betty Weider had some hot curves that for sure.

(http://www.ironguru.com/images/stories/betty-weider-vince-gironda.jpg)

Vince Gironda, he talked like a man, but dressed like a fagg


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 17, 2011, 10:59:51 AM
Whatever happened to di mora and victor terra?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 11:06:40 AM
Whatever happened to di mora and victor terra?
No clue,but they were great......especially Terra.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 17, 2011, 11:07:00 AM
Whatever happened to di mora and victor terra?
dimora was youngest ever pro ,,terra was incredible nabba/aau could'nt get through npc nationals ,,would have like to see him in lineup with his look against shorter guys like him,labrada,comerford,pastel,terra was pinched for drug stuff back in 90's i think.great build


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 11:10:44 AM
dimora was youngest ever pro ,,terra was incredible nabba/aau could'nt get through npc nationals ,,would have like to see him in lineup with his look against shorter guys like him,labrada,comerford,pastel,terra was pinched for drug stuff back in 90's i think.great build
I think you`re right about the drug bust......kinda` remember hearing that.

The only way he would have done well against guys like Labrada and Pastel would be to come in much harder,dryer,and crisper,while retaining his size at the same time.

Those short little fuckers were great!!  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on November 17, 2011, 11:13:40 AM
I remember he kept saying he was natural. He had the smooth look of a nattie, but those arms...  ???
he trained with this guy, i'm just saying.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 17, 2011, 11:16:41 AM
I think you`re right about the drug bust......kinda` remember hearing that.

The only way he would have done well against guys like Labrada and Pastel would be to come in much harder,dryer,and crisper,while retaining his size at the same time.

Those short little fuckers were great!!  ;D
well in early 90's terra had such good shape and enough conditioning and great size/legs he placed in the pro nabba easily and then won in 91 or 92 i believe,,


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hematocritter on November 17, 2011, 11:18:53 AM
:)


I was born in the wrong era.
This is what a beautiful woman looks like, IMO.

I've already said how much I prefer the physiques of this era.
Can't beat the cars either, or the price of gas.
I'm sure there are tons of other great things about this time period,
wish I was there to enjoy them.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 17, 2011, 11:49:58 AM
he trained with this guy, i'm just saying.

So if I was Phil's training buddy, my arms would blew like his?   ::)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 02:40:48 PM
he trained with this guy, i'm just saying.
Great pic funk.........I love those old spherical dumbells!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 02:50:58 PM
 8)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/curt_james/whoisit/35teuf.jpg)

(http://www.legendaryleonbrown.com/imagesofleonbrown_clip_image005.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-feE1jiZgjko/TV--LRg4B1I/AAAAAAAALAk/dEAuA5n-Awc/s400/WillieJohnson_1974b.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/122/images/Johnny_Fuller_18.jpg)

(http://forum.steelfactor.ru/uploads/post-10-1174671076_thumb.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilders.com.au/forum/download/file.php?id=11359)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 03:05:00 PM
 8)

(http://cdn3.iofferphoto.com/img3/item/215/586/932/c1AL.jpg)

(http://cdn3.iofferphoto.com/img3/item/215/587/336/RmZO.jpg)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/09%20bodybuilding%20pix/Gary-Leonard.jpg)

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR929PtfEMC8IOkPPpWe8nxIEC1LbAFkOSlBartLIpty5wS4J0trA&t=1)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/3959/jv_12-19-05e.jpg)

(http://darkwoods.com/bodybuilder/male/bb/gallery/fullsize/aranit01.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: BigAnt on November 17, 2011, 03:07:42 PM
Ron Teufel owned a gym near the Philly airport, old old school, the gym now is kinda like a LA Fit with a couple of older machines.  It was a very cool place to train = almost like it still had the 70's-80's look-feel....


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 03:09:06 PM
Ron Teufel owned a gym near the Philly airport, old old school, the gym now is kinda like a LA Fit with a couple of older machines.  It was a very cool place to train = almost like it still had the 70's-80's look-feel....
Cool !! :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: BigAnt on November 17, 2011, 03:24:01 PM
And Wes, I trained with AAU bodybuilder Joe Bucci in his home-garage-gym and also the Natural Ron Coleman grew up close to me, we also trained at the same gym, he guessed posed once, they carried him out in a coffin...Derrick Whisett trained in Trenton, NJ...Man's World, owner Joe Dodd recently just passed, I trained there, saw Derrick, Phil Hill, Greg Kovach and Mike Morris there a few times...Good old days!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 03:31:02 PM
And Wes, I trained with AAU bodybuilder Joe Bucci in his home-garage-gym and also the Natural Ron Coleman grew up close to me, we also trained at the same gym, he guessed posed once, they carried him out in a coffin...Derrick Whisett trained in Trenton, NJ...Man's World, owner Joe Dodd recently just passed, I trained there, saw Derrick, Phil Hill, Greg Kovach and Mike Morris there a few times...Good old days!
Awesome bro........must be from New Jersey.

Bucci had some freaky guns!!

Heard about Joe Dodd.............fucking shame...........also a shame about Derrick Whitsetts passing.

I trained in the same gym as Jeff King,Richard Roy,Joe Gomes,Matt Dufresne,Charlie Sinacole,Zak Nathan,Chris Aceto,Pat Hayes,Ray Wilson,Chris Gordon,Arthur Prince,and a ton of other assorted animals.

Look them up on  http://www.musclememory.com

Big Daddys Gym and Central City Gym.............great days!  :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Galvatron on November 17, 2011, 04:18:22 PM
Wes, what are the heaviest gym lifts you have seen?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Salvatore Martinez on November 17, 2011, 04:22:46 PM
who is this Wes, im usually on my game as far as the 70's and 80's guys go but this guy is physique perfection but i dont know who it is.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 04:24:29 PM
Wes, what are the heaviest gym lifts you have seen?
I saw Glen Chabot do a triple on the bench with 650 at World Gym in my hometown......he did 710 at the Arnold Classic a few years back.

I saw A guy names Carlton "Carl" Snitkin squat around 800 pounds or so back at the Springfield YMCA eons ago.

As far as deadlifting goes........the guy that owned Big Daddys Gym,(Rick Britt) where I trained,pulled around 750 pounds or so.

We also had 3 World Champion armwrestlers that trained at our gym back in the day when armwrestling was a very popular sport.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 04:27:32 PM
If I had a supermodel wife,tons of cash,broads on the side,and looked like this,I`d be happy.

So far I`ve got the wife,the cash,and the broads,but not the physique.  :(

Oh well, 3 out of 4 ain`t bad!!  LOL  ;D

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=442074;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 04:28:24 PM
who is this Wes, im usually on my game as far as the 70's and 80's guys go but this guy is physique perfection but i dont know who it is.
Jon Aranita..............use d to train with Rory Leidelmeyer,Bob Paris, and Coach who posts here on getbig.

Fucking guy was awesome but always came in 2nd. to someone else andnever got his pro-card!  :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Salvatore Martinez on November 17, 2011, 04:30:53 PM
Jon Aranita..used to train with Rory Leidelmeyer and Coach who posts here on getbig.
ok, i remember Ron Harris talking about him in a thing he wrote for Musclemag on hamstring training but i didnt expect him to look like that, that physique should be winning the Olympia year in and year out.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 04:33:29 PM
ok, i remember Ron Harris talking about him in a thing he wrote for Musclemag on hamstring training but i didnt expect him to look like that, that physique should be winning the Olympia year in and year out.
No shit huh...he looks great.

You don`t see too many guys these days looking this damned good.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 04:34:53 PM
Aranitas contest resume`....I didn`t know he won his class at the USA:

http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Aranita,+Jon


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Salvatore Martinez on November 17, 2011, 04:52:57 PM
No shit huh...he looks great.

You don`t see too many guys these days looking this damned good.
thats what bodybuilding should be about.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 04:54:53 PM
thats what bodybuilding should be about.
I hear ya` bro!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Galvatron on November 17, 2011, 04:56:01 PM
haha, gironda was a nutcase. He had some good ideas but a lot of his stuff was bullshit.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 17, 2011, 05:00:47 PM
haha, gironda was a nutcase. He had some good ideas but a lot of his stuff was bullshit.
A lot of his exercise modifications were great........his nutritional advice=OK,his suppllement advice was insane.

But then again,back then ,nobody knew too much.......at least he was thinking and innovative while others were sheeplike.

He was a nut though from all accounts.  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 18, 2011, 12:58:18 AM
Jon Aranita..............use d to train with Rory Leidelmeyer,Bob Paris, and Coach who posts here on getbig.

Fucking guy was awesome but always came in 2nd. to someone else andnever got his pro-card!  :(

Lee Labrada was one of the guys Jon placed second to. Agreed Jon was awesome and strong.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 18, 2011, 01:08:53 AM
Lee Labrada was one of the guys Jon placed second to. Agreed Jon was awesome and strong.
Right.....looked it up yesterday and saw it was Labrada..............nev er knew that, or I probably just forgot it.

David,didn`t you train with these guys around the same time as Aranita?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 18, 2011, 02:32:53 PM
 8)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-O8NI2ne2Osw/TdPK0WP9kJI/AAAAAAAAOgY/j2QkxdOUgKI/s1600/a1104.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_42a-EXZjSpo/TGa7eCUhb2I/AAAAAAAADQ0/JnKJJehzkUg/s1600/20100820c.jpg)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=118.0;attach=370;image)

(http://pkmuscle.50megs.com/images/mendenhall1.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilders.com.au/forum/download/file.php?id=5647)

(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/Tyrol3/Edgar_Fletcher_001.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 18, 2011, 02:42:20 PM
http://vimeo.com/14656965 (http://vimeo.com/14656965)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 18, 2011, 02:44:03 PM
 8)

(http://api.ning.com/files/v6J-VWQbY9RYcIEKpf2Vt9dB2kgP8HN5ozhwJTst2oGZWLzlS-9pcD-8I4mWoVB7/Rory0241.JPG?width=395&height=600)

(http://i.imgur.com/mhoZ6.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WPmx_b3VJmU/TdPK0eIhw7I/AAAAAAAAOgg/Al373NUqUDg/s1600/a11042603.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZoUCbIhEY-s/SvatKdwTdmI/AAAAAAAAByI/fMYt9brCpR0/s400/MarlonDarton3.jpg)

(http://www.darkwoods.com/bodybuilder/male/bb/gallery/fullsize/ray51.jpg)

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg222/scaled.php?server=222&filename=70smra012js0.jpg&res=medium)

(http://fitness.bf-1.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Hot-Legendary-Bodybuilder-Mohamed-Makkawy-011.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 18, 2011, 02:51:49 PM
 8)

(http://muscleset.com/uploads/galleries/1977_5.jpg)

(http://www.ifbb.com/contestresults/mensworld/76short.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/62/images/Boyer%20CoeMohamed%20MakkawyAlbert%20Beckles.jpg)

(http://primux.com/BB/BobParis/BobParis-06.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/78/images/Dennis_Newman_photo197.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 18, 2011, 03:00:30 PM
 8)

(http://bodybuildingreviews.net/Contests/Charlotte03/Hawk086.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson43cbig.jpg)

(http://photobucket.com/albums/a282/deetrakt/BBI/davhk.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/130/images/Lee%20Labrada93.jpg)

(http://dc405.4s.io/img/GTSXfpAR/s7/labrad01.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: dantelis on November 18, 2011, 03:09:23 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_42a-EXZjSpo/TGa7eCUhb2I/AAAAAAAADQ0/JnKJJehzkUg/s1600/20100820c.jpg)

That chest is almost as good as Joe Weider's!!!!!!   :o :o :o

(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/06-176-feature/image005.png)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 18, 2011, 04:05:51 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_42a-EXZjSpo/TGa7eCUhb2I/AAAAAAAADQ0/JnKJJehzkUg/s1600/20100820c.jpg)

That chest is almost as good as Joe Weider's!!!!!!   :o :o :o

(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/06-176-feature/image005.png)
Similar genetics!!  LOL  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: War-Horse on November 18, 2011, 07:12:04 PM
Great days there!!   Wish we could go back.. :-\


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 19, 2011, 06:24:12 AM
In the one above pic, was that the year they ran out of sandows and haney got a lifesize Makkawyi instead?  :D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 19, 2011, 07:28:28 AM
In the one above pic, was that the year they ran out of sandows and haney got a lifesize Makkawyi instead?  :D

That was at the 1983 london grand prix at wembley,i was there to watch that contest,it was great sportmanship from Lee.Scary to think when you look at the pics of Matt M and Rory that its nearly 30 years since they first burst onto the scene.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: andreisdaman on November 19, 2011, 07:53:27 AM
Similar genetics!!  LOL  ;D


How many of you remember the days when you thought Joe Weider REALLY looked like that???...LOLLOLOLOL
 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 19, 2011, 10:03:22 AM

How many of you remember the days when you thought Joe Weider REALLY looked like that???...LOLLOLOLOL
 ;D ;D ;D
robby got shafted


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 19, 2011, 10:05:14 AM
That was at the 1983 london grand prix at wembley,i was there to watch that contest,it was great sportmanship from Lee.Scary to think when you look at the pics of Matt M and Rory that its nearly 30 years since they first burst onto the scene.
haney was a class act

Yep, 3 decades and we're still talking bout them!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: yates fan on November 19, 2011, 11:09:53 AM
i remember when dickerson won in 82 and they didnt have a sandow available and gave him a trophy instead,i think later they sent him his sandow.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 11:45:02 AM
We be gettin` old!  :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: dr.chimps on November 19, 2011, 11:47:04 AM
We be gettin` old!  :(
Old school iron!? Isn't that rust?       ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 11:50:19 AM
Old school iron!? Isn't that rust?       ;D
Thanks for your input!!  LOL  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: willie mosconi on November 19, 2011, 11:59:26 AM
I agree that this was a better era. The bloated physiques of today are horrible. However, many pros and top amateurs still train quite hard- for example, Hide was doing heavy squatting and deadlifts in prep for the Olympia. Tito Raymond does very heavy squats and deadlifts for his size. There are still hardcore trainers at Gold's and elsewhere. Also, there is nothing wrong with mixing in machines when they are effective.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Swlabr on November 19, 2011, 02:15:32 PM
Fuck me, this thread is more motivating than the looks I get from hot girls when I walk my trenbolona-filled body to lectures.

Thanks, Wes!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 02:17:55 PM
Fuck me, this thread is more motivating than the looks I get from hot girls when I walk my trenbolona-filled body to lectures.

Thanks, Wes!
No problem bro...it keeps me motivated too. LOL  :D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2011, 02:33:57 PM
Rory has the best shape imo - I think he was better than Bob Paris , those B/W's from the early 90s when he had the long hair are surperb  8) - To me I think Dennis Newman (before his illness) was the last of the "perfect" physiques and Flex before the oil , Flex and Dennis in the early to mid 90s is where BB died.. from those two forward it became a war of bloated mass - disgusting  :-X


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 03:11:01 PM
I`ll add more pics if anyone is still interested in this thread ???


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2011, 03:14:32 PM
I`ll add more pics if anyone is still interested in this thread ???
Yes please  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 03:15:31 PM
Yes please  ;D
Cool.........I had no clue if people were getting tired of it yet or not.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 03:43:36 PM
 8)

(http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29390&d=1276098771)

(http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29387&d=1276098706)

(http://www.bodybuilders.com/rich7.jpg)

(http://www.docssports.com/prodimages/ParisBob_3.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilders.com.au/forum/download/file.php?id=9661)

(http://w47.photobucket.com/albums/f170/EddieAguilera/MikeHardBodyShot-2.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 03:53:48 PM
 8)

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg508/scaled.php?server=508&filename=mbs.jpg&res=medium)

(http://www.wyomingwoman.net/images/Koontz-2.jpg)

(http://www.primecutsbodybuildingdvds.com/images/dvd/V-175DVD.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/3958/pantoja1.jpg)

(http://www.wyomingwoman.net/images%5CGolds%20Classic%201.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/3959/jv_12-19-05g.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2011, 03:59:38 PM
Now this is awesome  8)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/3959/jv_12-19-05g.jpg)

(http://www.primecutsbodybuildingdvds.com/images/dvd/V-175DVD.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: War-Horse on November 19, 2011, 04:06:55 PM
Great thread Wes. Its nice to see the old school physiques.  Felt like we at least had a chance.. ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 04:09:23 PM
 8)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/3959/jv_12-19-05aa.jpg)

(http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/cb/fd/after,dark,magazine,bodybuilder-cbfd77be38fe68969b91479d8492f6ae_h.jpg)

(http://forum.iron-age-classic-bodybuilding.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=e314f4f1e1aa55fdcc442578d9a729d1&action=dlattach;topic=11861.0;id=22083;image)

(http://forum.iron-age-classic-bodybuilding.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7347.0;id=20491;image)

(http://picturesofpeopleinthegym.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/PicturesofPeople_ArnoldFranco_42.jpg)

(http://sylvesterstallone.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/slyarnold.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 04:10:03 PM
Great thread Wes. Its nice to see the old school physiques.  Felt like we at least had a chance.. ;D
Yeah,no shit !!  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 04:18:21 PM
 8)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson321j.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/1896/RW01.jpg)

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSwUflkwUveH6m2HcnRid955Qb6EmRZvWxZxdulQmp4Vz5vWxVUafZTopF_)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/09%20bodybuilding%20pix/GrymkowskiPete.jpg)

(http://clay_b862.tripod.com/HaislopJim/JHaislop0008.jpg)

(http://www.legendaryfitness.com/RBarmsout2.jpg)

(http://forum.iron-age-classic-bodybuilding.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=4f1e1b973a177c968a25ae66a56df02a&action=dlattach;topic=15070.0;id=23726;image)

^ Joe Marino aka "Coach" ^


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 04:25:57 PM
 8)

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/14/78/41/27/jv_12-10.jpg)

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/14/78/41/27/jv_12-12.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/SOpLTlYGd0I/AAAAAAAAAmg/cuIpimPc7Pw/s400/lee-haney-3.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_25DmCdTM4zs/Sb17UxrpxwI/AAAAAAAAAjc/CnXNd3sBZuo/s400/El+Symetro0312.JPG)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_34PE0ZEgM80/TMhPaXsJaAI/AAAAAAAAYgM/7nVchGJj0u0/s1600/rory+leidelmeyer.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_25DmCdTM4zs/SSnl5x4mwdI/AAAAAAAAAfc/6si6h-rDaJY/s400/Back+To+The+Future0176.JPG)

(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/1016/Rory_Leidelmeyer_014.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 04:26:34 PM
There`s some Rory for ya` Will Grant!!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: willie mosconi on November 19, 2011, 04:45:07 PM
Why did guys train barefoot sometimes back then? It seems like there are no possible benefits to doing so


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 04:49:41 PM
Why did guys train barefoot sometimes back then? It seems like there are no possible benefits to doing so
No clue....personally,I never saw anybody do it.

In some old articles you see guys training in posing briefs and barefoot..........my guess is that they just did this for the photoshoot, or were really really gay!!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2011, 04:51:32 PM
There`s some Rory for ya` Will Grant!!  :)
The dude looked flawless , how could BB go from that to what it is today *Shakes head*  :-\


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 04:52:25 PM
The dude looked flawless , how could BB go from that to what it is today *Shakes head*  :-\
It took a wrong turn somefuckinwhere....unfor tunately!!  :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: xpac2 on November 19, 2011, 10:37:07 PM
Why did guys train barefoot sometimes back then? It seems like there are no possible benefits to doing so

Because they feel that they can grip the floor better during squats and deads..That and they would usually go from the beach to the gym at the old golds at venice.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 04:38:43 PM
 8)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1284918699/med_gallery_1_4_35952.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1284924513/med_gallery_1_4_27878.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UvraaDtbt_0/Tg9ATCLmMDI/AAAAAAAADoI/TL6EGDeAfOE/s1600/arnold-schwarzenegger.jpg)

(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQa2pZ2G0ed7SnYBXNLQR5IhEt32ZqzH-tJHqWd47k_pZG1Q0eGsg)

(http://muscleshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/mystery4.jpg?w=450&h=364)

(http://muscleshots.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/mystery65.jpg?w=450&h=306)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 04:49:50 PM
 8)

(http://i53.tinypic.com/b6f0ci.jpg)

(http://www.tomterwilliger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/steve-stone.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5YH9MpGHcuQ/TBOPwIoUEGI/AAAAAAAAG7o/wCC5nOHs3lY/s1600/Lee+Haney_7.jpg)

(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/news/stevestone1.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1vydVJuHd8s/S6rNrUIZ36I/AAAAAAAABFU/UlSvTGDmNLM/s1600/RR+AND+PHIL+HILL.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs479.snc3/26219_380289649634_339331289634_3876316_3036160_n.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 04:54:03 PM
 8)

(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/1/5/15367-benfatto11.jpg)

(http://blog.bodybuilding.com/wp-content/blogs/434/uploads//ParisBob_2.jpg)

(http://www.m1t.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/arnold_schwarzenegger.jpg)

(http://i52.tinypic.com/xaur2c.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/aaron-baker.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/swingbell/sf/sf%2085/sf8512xedkawakjocelynepigeonneau.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/49/images/Albert_Beckles_80.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 04:57:14 PM
 8)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/45/images/Aaron_Baker_photo97.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/76/images/David_Dearth_25.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/102/images/Eddie_Robinson_photo68.jpg)

(http://www.criticalbench.com/images/EddieRobinson3.jpg)

(http://www.edcorney.net/danpose5.JPG)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/STW9X-ITKDI/AAAAAAAABQM/WoyeeGgx2A4/s400/andreas-munzer-1.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: The_Huge on November 21, 2011, 04:57:55 PM
Rich Gaspari vascularity is insane, as for Clint Beyerle - he has a really good build .

Old School bodybuilders still represent at showing how bodybuilding is done.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 05:01:46 PM
Rich Gaspari vascularity is insane, as for Clint Beyerle - he has a really good build .

Old School bodybuilders still represent at showing how bodybuilding is done.
Yes indeed my friend.  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: no one on November 21, 2011, 05:06:50 PM
8)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs479.snc3/26219_380289649634_339331289634_3876316_3036160_n.jpg)

fucking awesome


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 05:07:53 PM
fucking awesome
Dude looks like living fucking sculpture!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 05:16:11 PM
 8)

(http://www.rbimba.lt/faktai/gallery/83-2.jpg)

(http://www.rbimba.lt/faktai/gallery/83-1.jpg)

(http://www.rbimba.lt/faktai/gallery/83-3.jpg)

(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRikor2HeS3JBP2iinZSxqxuD8_z2c8LcF1bHfoTec7M3-myylvKA)

(http://www.bodybuildingtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/mvbthumbs/img_1100_don-long-1995-npc-nationals-champion-22.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/10782/574/d/img_65191240031553.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: TrueGrit on November 21, 2011, 05:18:03 PM
Bodybuilding will never go back to this now. It's set on its path to destruction with creatures like that bullhead monstrosity that Milos is performing experiments on.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 05:20:09 PM
Bodybuilding will never go back to this now. It's set on its path to destruction with creatures like that bullhead monstrosity that Milos is performing experiments on.
Bullhead headed in the direction of a Mr. O title if his gut gets a tad bigger! 

God,what a thought  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: TrueGrit on November 21, 2011, 05:26:30 PM
Bullhead headed in the direction of a Mr. O title if his gut gets a tad bigger!  



True. If he can get that painfully extended look to it and some obvious SEO use...he can take the Sandow. I'm sure Eugen would have approved!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 05:28:58 PM
 8)

(http://clay_b8691.tripod.com/LopezAnibal/ALopez0002.jpg)

(http://clay_b8691.tripod.com/LopezAnibal/ALopez0017.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson307m.jpg)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1732.0;attach=10386;image)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/09%20bodybuilding%20pix/sergiocolormythpose.jpg)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1195.0;attach=7372;image)

(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/t432.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Howard on November 21, 2011, 05:29:28 PM
I`ll add more pics later if anybody gives a fuck!  :)
Great pics Wes and you know I enjoyed them.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Howard on November 21, 2011, 05:32:20 PM
8)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson321j.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/1896/RW01.jpg)

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSwUflkwUveH6m2HcnRid955Qb6EmRZvWxZxdulQmp4Vz5vWxVUafZTopF_)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/09%20bodybuilding%20pix/GrymkowskiPete.jpg)

(http://clay_b862.tripod.com/HaislopJim/JHaislop0008.jpg)

(http://www.legendaryfitness.com/RBarmsout2.jpg)

(http://forum.iron-age-classic-bodybuilding.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=4f1e1b973a177c968a25ae66a56df02a&action=dlattach;topic=15070.0;id=23726;image)

^ Joe Marino aka "Coach" ^
Ya know, Richard Baldwin ( in top shots ) is a prof of classical laguages at FSU Pannama City branch.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 07:42:45 PM
Great pics Wes and you know I enjoyed them.
My pleasure Howard!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 21, 2011, 08:21:47 PM
8)

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg508/scaled.php?server=508&filename=mbs.jpg&res=medium)

(http://www.wyomingwoman.net/images/Koontz-2.jpg)

(http://www.primecutsbodybuildingdvds.com/images/dvd/V-175DVD.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/3958/pantoja1.jpg)

(http://www.wyomingwoman.net/images%5CGolds%20Classic%201.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/3959/jv_12-19-05g.jpg)

That last picture is of Frank Pantoja, another part of the Rory clan along with me, John Aranita, Danny Beruman, Bob Paris and Scott Livingstone.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on November 21, 2011, 08:22:07 PM
8)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson321j.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/1896/RW01.jpg)

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSwUflkwUveH6m2HcnRid955Qb6EmRZvWxZxdulQmp4Vz5vWxVUafZTopF_)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/09%20bodybuilding%20pix/GrymkowskiPete.jpg)

(http://clay_b862.tripod.com/HaislopJim/JHaislop0008.jpg)

(http://www.legendaryfitness.com/RBarmsout2.jpg)

(http://forum.iron-age-classic-bodybuilding.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=4f1e1b973a177c968a25ae66a56df02a&action=dlattach;topic=15070.0;id=23726;image)

^ Joe Marino aka "Coach" ^

Richard teaches at the same U 240 graduated from.

THE BEEF


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 21, 2011, 08:27:29 PM
Aranitas contest resume`....I didn`t know he won his class at the USA:

http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Aranita,+Jon

Jonny was also the one who barely lost to Labrada at the National the year Lee won.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on November 21, 2011, 08:31:02 PM
When I get out of jail I'll contribute to this thread.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 21, 2011, 08:33:56 PM
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/jv_01-05-06h-1.jpg)


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/Joe_Marino_28129.jpg)


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/joe21.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 08:35:59 PM
Awesome shots Joe!!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 08:37:05 PM
When I get out of jail I'll contribute to this thread.
;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 21, 2011, 08:43:27 PM
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/jv_01-05-06h-1.jpg)


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/Joe_Marino_28129.jpg)


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/joe21.jpg)
When you get a chance could you list the diet and training you used to build then get into this shape - dont worry about drug questions they wont be asked from me I pretty much know the prefered compounds used back then  ;D but more the type of volume used along with the diet "offseason" and then leading into a show - thanks Joesef  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Cableguy on November 21, 2011, 10:41:09 PM
This is the kind of stuff that made me excited about bodybuilding and got me training in the first place! Physiques like Serge's and Rick Wayne's were very inspiring for me.

I met Manny Perry several times, very nice, down to earth guy. And very large for his height!

WTF happened, I'm so underwhelmed now... :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 22, 2011, 01:11:21 AM
8)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/2/images/Charles_Glass%20(9).jpg)

(http://www.gmvbodybuilding.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Glass-Williams.jpg)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/products/GMV-005DVDLG.jpg)

(http://muscleshots.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/mystery23.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=142521.0;attach=159629;image)

(http://www.darkwoods.com/bodybuilder/male/bb/gallery/fullsize/terra01.jpg)

Dang Tim I've never seen those shot of Victor Terra... unreal.

You asked me about training with Rory, Aranita and the crew. I didn't actually train with Rory as I did with Danny, B. Grant, Samir, Mike and Ray. I'd meet Rory at Gold's once a month, he'd look at my training logs, eating etc and then design my next routine. I did meet Jon, Bob Paris, Matt? (Bob's partner). I may have met Joe (Coach) at the time but can't say for sure. I was also working at a Night Club in Whittier at the time right around the corner from Uptown Gym where Rory trained much of the time. Man I loved those small, dungeon type, old school gyms. That's what Barlow's and Muscle Mill (both in Torrance) were like. I never trained at Astro Gym (where Coach trained) but it was on the way to Dr. Kerr's office... err oops... of course that was just a rumor I heard... yeah that's it... a rumor. 


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 02:23:59 AM
Thanks David.....I really wish you and Joe would start a thread going into lots of detail about how you guys trained with these greats.

Throw in some pics and it would be one of the best threads ever posted here.........or anywhere!!

All the best bud!!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Skylge on November 22, 2011, 05:25:05 AM
8)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/curt_james/whoisit/35teuf.jpg)

(http://forum.steelfactor.ru/uploads/post-10-1174671076_thumb.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilders.com.au/forum/download/file.php?id=11359)


OT, but "Teufel" means Devil in German   :)

(Great photo of Mendenhall and De Mey btw, two quality physiques)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: TrueGrit on November 22, 2011, 05:28:18 AM
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/jv_01-05-06h-1.jpg)


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/Joe_Marino_28129.jpg)


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/joe21.jpg)

You really had the classic ironage look. Superb build.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on November 22, 2011, 09:35:51 AM
Wes.....


Do you have any pics of Benfatto or Samir???

Thanks for all your hard work!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 09:39:03 AM
Wes.....


Do you have any pics of Benfatto or Samir???

Thanks for all your hard work!

You`re welcome willie................I`ll definately add some later today or tonight bro.  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 22, 2011, 09:58:42 AM
WES and others, Thanks!

I'm still in the process of reading all this but regarding the question of training bare-foot, I sort of recall a lot of the guys parking outside of Gold's when it was in Santa Monica, (I don't recall any parking meters back then and that area of SM was never really crowded), going into Gold's to get a quick pump, and then walking the couple of blocks down to the beach.

(Shoeless due to the fact that everything would be locked up in the car except for a beach towel and tanning lotion.)

I have met the vast majority of the people whose photos are posted here. And on many occasions .... an interesting and often humerous story was involved.

In fact I still stay in contact with a few of the guys .... particularly Peter Grymko.

A few little stories may be of interest such as:

Watching Joe weld some new equipment while talking business in the original location.
The day Pete installed a bench so the street gawkers could come inside and watch the action.
The initial 'shock' to most when they first saw the ladies train with the guys.
Leg day with Platz.
IFBB party in the gym.
Harassing Teufel.
Mike and his bike. (Mentzer)
The Gold's Gym parade.

SOme good old memories here, Wes! Thanks.







Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 10:02:15 AM
Thanks for sharing Stunt............wish I could have seen some of that stuff!  :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Swlabr on November 22, 2011, 10:03:52 AM
Keep them coming, wes, these pictures really motivate the shit out of me. Fuck bloated insulina guts, I want to look like these alphas. 8)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 22, 2011, 10:05:03 AM
Great pics Tim of the greatest time in the sport.Stunt,what did you mean when you said "harrasing Teufel",and please tell us about witnessing Platz train legs.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on November 22, 2011, 11:15:55 AM
Great pics Tim of the greatest time in the sport.Stunt,what did you mean when you said "harrasing Teufel",and please tell us about witnessing Platz train legs.
X2!!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 22, 2011, 11:17:11 AM
Hey, WES! I'll do my best to let ya see it through my own two eye-balls providing my long term memory is still in tact.

To start off ... I think you'll agree with me when I say that bodybuilding was a horse of a different color way back then ... and nothing at all like it is today.

In fact .... it's a totally different Derby.

And since CROWN asked about "Harassing Teufel", I'll start with that one.

Nothing earth shattering here ... no paper bags on anyone's feet nor other stuff that appears to garner so much interest from the GetBiggers who are too damn young to recognize truth from fiction or possibly even hopeful desires...

Just a very short observation about a young kid who comes to Gold's in Santa Monica for his first time to compete in the "AAU" Mr. America after doing well in some show back east someplace.

I'm bad at dates but this was definitely sometime after Columbus discovered America .... most likely around the mid 70's.

It was about 5 days before the event and Ron showed up at Gold's while all the regulars were training in prep for the contest and the harassment started when he first stepped through the door... definitely pre-planed.

It was most likely intended to be a joke ... kind of like a 'rite of initiation' but Ron was a young kid and felt offended and picked up his gear and walked outside.

Ten minutes later I saw him outside looking through the window and went out and introduced myself and told him that he was only being given a 'hard time' by the regulars due to the fact that he was a serious contender in this upcoming contest and  this was a normal routine for a Gold's Gym newby with his potential.

He said, "Thanks, but I'm just gonna wait and train when some of these regular guys leave."

So he did wait and went back inside late that night when the gym was almost empty.

I don't recall Ron's contest history but I do recall what was often referred to as the "Teufel Syndrom" (spelling??) meaning any competitor who consistently placed high in a contest but failed to noticeably improve over the years.

Back then (and possibly even today) the judges would place a contender a bit lower if that contender failed to be more impressive than he did in a previous event.

Ron was one of the competitors who did show up at the meeting in the Santa Monica Auditorium on Sunday morning following that contest to discuss US amateur bodybuilding association with the IFBB.

I think I posted that story earlier.

"Platz Trains Legs" is somewhat more interesting and will follow shortly ...



 


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: The RedMeatKid on November 22, 2011, 11:17:32 AM
Any photos/stories about the actor William Smith? Probably the most Alpha Male in the history of the U.S. yet largely unknown.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 11:20:16 AM
Thanks Shep,Swlabr,and thanks again for sharing some great stuff with us Stunt.....always loved your posts brother!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 11:32:38 AM
For wild willie  8)

(http://www.italianbody.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fotos_francis_benfatto_006.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/francisb1a.jpg)

(http://www.vincesteven.com/IMG/jpg_Francis_Benfatto.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2SN7til3Z2U/TPDEEWsWRYI/AAAAAAAAElE/1FAq6m9GGqE/s1600/samir%2Bbannout%2B6.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2SN7til3Z2U/TPDEEN74DGI/AAAAAAAAEk8/NzgClZlIfXo/s1600/samir%2Bbannout%2B4.jpg)

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg525/scaled.php?server=525&filename=184625wn.jpg&res=medium)

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/benfatto/fb183.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 11:40:31 AM
 8)

(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/2fd.jpg)

(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/wfe213.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2SN7til3Z2U/TPDED9AxKxI/AAAAAAAAEks/gbvoKf3VFtg/s1600/samir%2Bbannout%2B10.jpg)

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa229/haggy0927/FrancisBenfatto9.jpg)

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa229/haggy0927/FrancisBenfatto10.jpg)

(http://www.foropesas.com.ar/index.php?action=dlattach%3Btopic=2731.0%3Battach=10151%3Bimage%3Bimage)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on November 22, 2011, 11:49:21 AM
Thanks, Wes!!!!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 22, 2011, 11:52:09 AM
Samir did have a great back, one of the first of the back era...


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Cableguy on November 22, 2011, 11:53:17 AM
Thanks so much for this thread Wes...reminds me of why I started training in the first place. The best part of living in LA was the time I spent training at Gold's and World from the late 80's to mid 90's. I met and trained alongside so many of the greats I used to read about in the mags when I was a teenager. Became good friends with Eddie Giuliani and Zabo and got to shoot the shit with Joe Weider at his house...cool stuff, and great times!

This has motivated me to stop bullshitting around, and strive to have the best physique I'm capable of! Thanks again!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hench on November 22, 2011, 12:54:40 PM
they look really similar in that kneeling shot with arms out to the side.
For wild willie  8)

(http://www.italianbody.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fotos_francis_benfatto_006.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/francisb1a.jpg)

(http://www.vincesteven.com/IMG/jpg_Francis_Benfatto.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2SN7til3Z2U/TPDEEWsWRYI/AAAAAAAAElE/1FAq6m9GGqE/s1600/samir%2Bbannout%2B6.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2SN7til3Z2U/TPDEEN74DGI/AAAAAAAAEk8/NzgClZlIfXo/s1600/samir%2Bbannout%2B4.jpg)

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg525/scaled.php?server=525&filename=184625wn.jpg&res=medium)

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/benfatto/fb183.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 12:55:57 PM
No problem willie11  :)

Cableguy,I`m now officially jealous of you and Stunt!!  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 22, 2011, 02:37:52 PM
Thanks David.....I really wish you and Joe would start a thread going into lots of detail about how you guys trained with these greats.

Throw in some pics and it would be one of the best threads ever posted here.........or anywhere!!

All the best bud!!  :)

There was a two part interview in Iron Man about a year ago. Steve Holman interviewed some guy going by "Bodybuilder X". Apparently this X dude trained with Padilla, Grant, Bannout, the Mentzers, Rick Valente and Bob Chick. He was also trained by Rory. I'm not sure who this X guy is but he was very candid and open about everything.  ;)

Here is part 1 (I don't think the picture is really Bodybuilder X)
http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/site/muscle-building-myths-exposed-part-1/  

Part 2
http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/site/muscle-building-myths-exposed-part-2/
  


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 22, 2011, 02:47:20 PM
I have yet to meet Jonsey, but I have met Bill Smith.

This was back when he was not well known and before he played the part of some bad guy in a TV series (Rich Man, Poor Man ???) and then in a major motion picture which I cannot recall.

Not positive but I think I met Bill Smith while he was working at Universal as a stuntman or else he had a part in a TV western. I forget those details but we had mutual friends who also worked at Universal on a regular basis.

Not sure about this either but I seem to recall that he was a friend of Woody Strode's.

I believe he trained at Vince's but I never ran into him there.

OK, here is a "Platz Trains Legs" episode that ocurred sometime in the 70's or early 80's.

I've never been a GURU but I've worked with a good number of amateurs and a few professionals who are still among the living and one time I was helping Ernie Santiago prepare for an NPC national contest that was being held in Santa Monica and needless to say we spent a lot of time the week before at Gold's when Gold's was located in Santa Monica (2nd Street??).

It was leg day for Ernie and it so happened to be leg day for Platz so they decided to train together on and near the squat rack.

I don't recall how many sets and how much weight but it was a grueling workout for the both of them .... and Ernie was the kind of guy who would do whatever it took to train as hard and heavy as Platz ... and to the best of my memory ... he was successful in keeping up with Platz on each and every set.

When it was over, Tom shook Ernie's hand and said thanks for the great workout and Ernie walked over to the nearest wall, placed his back against it, and slid down to the seated position with somewhat of a glassed over gaze in his eyes.

That's when Pete came out of his office and asked him if he was OK, and Ernie's reply was, "Yea, Pete! I'm just waiting for Platz to show up so we can train legs."

And that's when Pete came looking for me to tell me that Ernie was slightly delirious and ready to pass out after a very strainuous leg workout  with Tom and it would be best for the both of us to walk or carry Ernie out to the waiting car so that he wouldn't get hit by a passing vehicle ... which was somewhat common back then after a hard training session at Gold's.

So Pete and I got Ernie to his feet and Ernie kept on insisting that he had to train legs with Tom if he ever showed up ... not realizing that he has already trained legs with Tom
so strainuously that it was causing him a temporary bit of 'insanity'.

The next day we had a good talk with Pete and he told Ernie that Ernie's 'temporary bit of insanity' after a very hard workout  was not too uncommon and more than a couple of members had walked out of the gym  ....  and directly into oncoming traffic.









Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 02:53:29 PM
There was a two part interview in Iron Man about a year ago. Steve Holman interviewed some guy going by "Bodybuilder X". Apparently this X dude trained with Padilla, Grant, Bannout, the Mentzers, Rick Valente and Bob Chick. He was also trained by Rory. I'm not sure who this X guy is but he was very candid and open about everything.  ;)

Here is part 1 (I don't think the picture is really Bodybuilder X)
http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/site/muscle-building-myths-exposed-part-1/ 

Part 2
http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/site/muscle-building-myths-exposed-part-2/
 
Good stuff David thanks bud!!

I wonder who BB-X really was ?   :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 22, 2011, 03:01:16 PM
WES, MAX .... I have yet to read that IronMan article but I can most likely find out who Bodybuilder X is or was.

I've known everyone you mentioned, MAX, excluding Bannout for some unknown reason, and I'll do my best to make a phone call or two and ask about this unknown, mysterious stranger.

No guarantees though, but it would give me a chance to renew some old time friendships.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 22, 2011, 03:03:27 PM
Max, those two interviews with bodybuilder X and the interview by someone named David I believe about Danny Padilla  were some of the best things that I have read in Ironman.  This is from a Ironman reader for over 30 years.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: dr.chimps on November 22, 2011, 03:09:40 PM
stunt and Wes? Great stuff! These are the guys I started out with, magazine-wise and lifting-wise. And, now I miss Keith. He was the Getbig Gold's colour-commentator, wasn't he? You're missed, big guy.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 03:15:12 PM
I think BB-X is a great writer and needs to pen more stuff for IM !!  ;)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 03:16:14 PM
stunt and Wes? Great stuff! These are the guys I started out with, magazine-wise and lifting-wise. And, now I miss Keith. He was the Getbig Gold's colour-commentator, wasn't he? You're missed, big guy.
You`re welcome bro......I miss Keiths posts also.....good dude,with lots of great experiences to share.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 22, 2011, 04:04:48 PM
WES, MAX .... I have yet to read that IronMan article but I can most likely find out who Bodybuilder X is or was.

I've known everyone you mentioned, MAX, excluding Bannout for some unknown reason, and I'll do my best to make a phone call or two and ask about this unknown, mysterious stranger.

No guarantees though, but it would give me a chance to renew some old time friendships.

You aren't serious, are you?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Galvatron on November 22, 2011, 04:10:48 PM
I always thought that Benfatto was overrated. Shoulders too big for his physique.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 22, 2011, 04:16:05 PM

Max, those two interviews with bodybuilder X and the interview by someone named David I believe about Danny Padilla  were some of the best things that I have read in Ironman.  This is from a Ironman reader for over 30 years.


Someone named David and bodybuilder X would probably thank you if he read your post.  ;)


I think BB-X is a great writer and needs to pen more stuff for IM !!  ;)


I’m sure he’d thank you as well Tim.  ;D

He actually has written about 2 dozen cover interviews with Pro’s and up and coming amateurs, probably about another two dozen articles on nutrition and dozens of supplement advertisements.

Rumor has it he has been afflicted with a flavor for Latin women and thus his near brush with death. 8) Still the affliction has a grip on him.

  


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 22, 2011, 05:56:10 PM
YES, MAX! I'm very serious, And I'm also honest and loyal and help old ladies get to the other side ..... all those other Boy Scout attributes.

But if you ever decided to challenge me with dates after Columbus landed, I'd have a problem answering honestly.

If I had  known about this unknown Bodybuilding X person a short while back, I would have inquired about him because I was in the IronMan studio most of the day and made it a point to meet everyone in the office while waiting for a friend's all day photo session to conclude.  

The IronMan staff is a GREAT bunch of people though and may want to keep X's ID secret for some unknown reason.

And I have yet to read that article, but plan to do so this evening.



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 06:05:26 PM
I have yet to meet Jonsey, but I have met Bill Smith.

This was back when he was not well known and before he played the part of some bad guy in a TV series (Rich Man, Poor Man ???) and then in a major motion picture which I cannot recall.

Not positive but I think I met Bill Smith while he was working at Universal as a stuntman or else he had a part in a TV western. I forget those details but we had mutual friends who also worked at Universal on a regular basis.

Not sure about this either but I seem to recall that he was a friend of Woody Strode's.

I believe he trained at Vince's but I never ran into him there.

OK, here is a "Platz Trains Legs" episode that ocurred sometime in the 70's or early 80's.

I've never been a GURU but I've worked with a good number of amateurs and a few professionals who are still among the living and one time I was helping Ernie Santiago prepare for an NPC national contest that was being held in Santa Monica and needless to say we spent a lot of time the week before at Gold's when Gold's was located in Santa Monica (2nd Street??).

It was leg day for Ernie and it so happened to be leg day for Platz so they decided to train together on and near the squat rack.

I don't recall how many sets and how much weight but it was a grueling workout for the both of them .... and Ernie was the kind of guy who would do whatever it took to train as hard and heavy as Platz ... and to the best of my memory ... he was successful in keeping up with Platz on each and every set.

When it was over, Tom shook Ernie's hand and said thanks for the great workout and Ernie walked over to the nearest wall, placed his back against it, and slid down to the seated position with somewhat of a glassed over gaze in his eyes.

That's when Pete came out of his office and asked him if he was OK, and Ernie's reply was, "Yea, Pete! I'm just waiting for Platz to show up so we can train legs."

And that's when Pete came looking for me to tell me that Ernie was slightly delirious and ready to pass out after a very strainuous leg workout  with Tom and it would be best for the both of us to walk or carry Ernie out to the waiting car so that he wouldn't get hit by a passing vehicle ... which was somewhat common back then after a hard training session at Gold's.

So Pete and I got Ernie to his feet and Ernie kept on insisting that he had to train legs with Tom if he ever showed up ... not realizing that he has already trained legs with Tom
so strainuously that it was causing him a temporary bit of 'insanity'.

The next day we had a good talk with Pete and he told Ernie that Ernie's 'temporary bit of insanity' after a very hard workout  was not too uncommon and more than a couple of members had walked out of the gym  ....  and directly into oncoming traffic.








Aesome shit Stunt!!  LOL  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 06:06:18 PM
Someone named David and bodybuilder X would probably thank you if he read your post.  ;)

I’m sure he’d thank you as well Tim.  ;D

He actually has written about 2 dozen cover interviews with Pro’s and up and coming amateurs, probably about another two dozen articles on nutrition and dozens of supplement advertisements.

Rumor has it he has been afflicted with a flavor for Latin women and thus his near brush with death. 8) Still the affliction has a grip on him.

   

I think I might know the guy David!!!!!!!!!!!!  LOL  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 06:11:13 PM
Some shots of Ernie Santiago for Stunt!  8)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/09%20bodybuilding%20pix/v-101%20102%20Web%20Pics/Enrie-Santiago-2.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S97OTuwabcI/AAAAAAAAHNA/eeBo6w17IVU/s400/Ernie-Santiago.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S97OS8ypcMI/AAAAAAAAHMo/pcbWcbI9dUQ/s1600/Ernie-Santiago-2.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S97OS3UlNXI/AAAAAAAAHMw/lKAzAKNOJVo/s1600/Ernie-Santiago-3.jpg)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/09%20bodybuilding%20pix/v-101%20102%20Web%20Pics/Ernie-Santiago-1.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1310980985/med_gallery_496_4_33177.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 06:14:40 PM
I still have this mag if I`m not mistaken.



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 22, 2011, 06:15:16 PM
Someone named David and bodybuilder X would probably thank you if he read your post.  ;)

I’m sure he’d thank you as well Tim.  ;D

He actually has written about 2 dozen cover interviews with Pro’s and up and coming amateurs, probably about another two dozen articles on nutrition and dozens of supplement advertisements.

Rumor has it he has been afflicted with a flavor for Latin women and thus his near brush with death. 8) Still the affliction has a grip on him.

  

I heard David is pretty young for all his knowledge.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 06:17:35 PM
I heard David is pretty young for all his knowledge.
Very very YOUNG........in an old kinda` way !!!!!   ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 22, 2011, 06:20:00 PM
YES, MAX! I'm very serious, And I'm also honest and loyal and help old ladies get to the other side ..... all those other Boy Scout attributes.

But if you ever decided to challenge me with dates after Columbus landed, I'd have a problem answering honestly.

If I had  known about this unknown Bodybuilding X person a short while back, I would have inquired about him because I was in the IronMan studio most of the day and made it a point to meet everyone in the office while waiting for a friend's all day photo session to conclude.  

The IronMan staff is a GREAT bunch of people though and may want to keep X's ID secret for some unknown reason.

And I have yet to read that article, but plan to do so this evening.



Well he works out of his house (rumor has it) but he does make it down to the studio for a few hours once a week. He's probably sorry he missed you.  ;)

When I first moved to LA and Gold's was on 2nd street. Ernie Santiago was in town for the AAU Mr. America in his last week of prep. Guy looked great.  


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 06:21:23 PM
I hope Stunt`s paying attention here!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Rudee on November 22, 2011, 06:21:50 PM
I don't know about your gym, but my gym is full of hoodie-wearing punks who feel the need to walk to the water fountain after each set, staring at themselves in the mirror the entire way there and back.   And in the summer time, we have what I call tank top penguins.  Skinny guys who wear tank-tops and strut around holdingtheir arms out the sides as if they are just too awesomely massive to hold them any closer to their body.   Just foolish looking.  Makes me laugh every time.  


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 06:25:46 PM
Shit,I am forced to train on a college campus,tons of kids and blue haired old ladies,and me training my ass off while they stare at me like I`m the one doing all the stupid exercises.  :(

Only 2 gyms in town,both on college campus`.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Vince B on November 22, 2011, 06:32:12 PM
Benfatto was another guy who had a head that was too big for his body.  


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 22, 2011, 06:33:03 PM
Shit,I am forced to train on a college campus,tons of kids and blue haired old ladies,and me training my ass off while they stare at me like I`m the one doing all the stupid exercises.  :(

Only 2 gyms in town,both on college campus`.

They just look at me like I'm crazy. I guess they figured it out.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 06:34:14 PM
They just look at me like I'm crazy. I guess they figured it out.
Yeah,those fuckers got me pegged dead to rights!!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Stavios on November 22, 2011, 06:39:41 PM
Benfatto was another guy who had a head that was too big for his body.  

WTF

he looks perfect, in your photoshop you made his head way too small it looks horrible


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 22, 2011, 06:47:36 PM
WES! What means this ------> I hope Stunt`s paying attention here!

Did I miss something?

Hey, MAX! I was with Ernie that year but can't recall how he placed and who won the wt classes and the overall. Let me know if you can recall.

Ernie did manage to win the Jr USA and the Jr Nationals within the same year if I recall correctly .... and the only other person to do that was Tony Peirson. (Spelling??)

One of those years when the contestants had to sit before the judges to see if they could talk correctly (or something like that), Pete G. arrived at the official hotel (Santa Monica Holiday Inn by the 15 freeway) only to discover that he had to show his membership card (AAU? or NPC?) before he could proceed.

He saw me and asked if I'd run back to the gym and look through his desk and try to find it. Took a while but I did find it and got it back to him just as he was scheduled to show the judges that he in fact could speak good English and eloquently enough to pass the 'test'.

The next year they didn't do that no more.

 


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 22, 2011, 06:57:45 PM
WES! What means this ------> I hope Stunt`s paying attention here!

Did I miss something?

Hey, MAX! I was with Ernie that year but can't recall how he placed and who won the wt classes and the overall. Let me know if you can recall.

Ernie did manage to win the Jr USA and the Jr Nationals within the same year if I recall correctly .... and the only other person to do that was Tony Peirson. (Spelling??)

One of those years when the contestants had to sit before the judges to see if they could talk correctly (or something like that), Pete G. arrived at the official hotel (Santa Monica Holiday Inn by the 15 freeway) only to discover that he had to show his membership card (AAU? or NPC?) before he could proceed.

He saw me and asked if I'd run back to the gym and look through his desk and try to find it. Took a while but I did find it and got it back to him just as he was scheduled to show the judges that he in fact could speak good English and eloquently enough to pass the 'test'.

The next year they didn't do that no more.

 

1980 Mr. America was held at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium.

verall Winner Gary Leonard

HeavyWeight
1     Gary Leonard
2     Greg DeFerro
3     Lance Dreher
4     John Kemper
5     Billy Arlen
6     John Brown
7     Ray Wilson
8     Rufus Howard
9     Marlon Darton
10     Stephen Sepaniak
11     Robert Reis
12     Dave Rogers

Light-HeavyWeight
1     Bronston Austin
2     Ron Teufel
3     Ernie Santiago
4     Charles Glass
5     James Seitzer
6     Robert Jodkiewicz
7     Paul Love
8     Larry Jackson (1)
9     Raymond Gingo
10     Patrick Hayes
11     Jesse Gautreaux
12     George Palmiero

MiddleWeight
1     Richard Baldwin
2     Bill Register
3     Casey Schneider
4     Mike Torchia
5     Derek Prescod
6     Charles Colson
7     Anthony Pandolfo
8     Ed Holmes
9     Earl Herndon
10     Philip Cianciolo
11     James Gaubert
12     David Campbell (1)

LightWeight
1     Ken Passariello
2     John Burkholder
3     Joe Distinti
4     Larry Manuel
5     Paul Daniels
6     Joe Adams
7     John Manoogian
8     Lionel Gaubert
9     Robert DePalma
10     Cornell Maye
11     Dean Tornabene

 


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 22, 2011, 07:06:10 PM
I always thought that Benfatto was overrated. Shoulders too big for his physique.
yeah but he still looked great,,what threw him off esp then due to the puffy hair and small neck gave his shoulders the too big look as well..great poser a bit slow paced but smooth transitions.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 22, 2011, 07:12:15 PM
Since our minds are back in them good old days, let me tell you a secret which really never was a secret because most of you BB fans most likely know this secret shit already.

ANd some of you competitors may still be doing this before stepping on the prejudging stage.

Back in the 70's and early 80's  every worthwhile competitor would diet well but only in accordance with their own desires.

Ernie happened to be one guy who had access to raw fish in abundance and would smell like a tuna during the last six weeks prior to the contest.

Others would adnere to a 'diet' that was called "the Shit Day" diet in which carbs would be avoided except on shit days when you could eat anything your heart desired within reason. It was something like 4 continuous days of limited carbs followed by one day of pigging out a bit ... and that 5th was the 'shit day'.

ANd there were others who went with 'no fats/low fats' and other abnormal ways of daily food intake.

BUT .... on the morning of the prejudging, just about every contestant would eat the exact same meal three to four hours before the event.

ANd that meal would be stacks of pancakes and as many as you could eat without making your stomach portrude. (Spelling?)

 So the SM House of Pancakes had a line going around the block full of starving bodybuilders waiting for their first 'good meal' in weeks. And if you were at the end of that long line you'd have to give up and go looking for another place that served pancakes and hope that you got back to the auditorium in time for no one would stand on that stage without a gut full of pancakes unless you wanted to lose a trophy.

True story and maybe some of you guy follow it today




  



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Vince B on November 22, 2011, 07:30:54 PM
Head size is crucial. How is this?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 22, 2011, 07:34:00 PM
Thanks for the memory jolt, MAX.

Lots more to this story but I was backstage helping Gary Leonard and Ernie that year and for a few months before Gary won that Mr America title (the last time it was used BTW) he lived with us in Hawaii and myself and a good friend by the name of Steve Dussia worked with Gary to get him  prepared for that competition.

Prior to that contest Gary was told by some of the judges that his posing lacked a lot so Steve worked with Gary after every workout and got it right.

During an interview after Gary's win, he thanked everyone who made it possible but forgot to mention Steve's part in his victory, but he did manage to make an apologetic phone call which wasn't even really necessary as we were just glad he won it even though Ernie only placed 3rd  in his class that year.

WES, thanks for the Ernie photos. I was there on the beach when some of them were taken and that's when I first met Bob Jodkiewicz and a few years later we became good friends.. Bob was standing by waiting to be shot when the phtotographer finished shooting Ernie. Bob finished a few places below Ernie that year.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: PJim on November 22, 2011, 07:35:37 PM
Benfatto was another guy who had a head that was too big for his body.  

You've made him look like a fuckwit simpleton.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 22, 2011, 07:44:24 PM
You've made him look like a fuckwit simpleton.
hahaha,,,


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 22, 2011, 08:31:53 PM
WES and others, Thanks!

I'm still in the process of reading all this but regarding the question of training bare-foot, I sort of recall a lot of the guys parking outside of Gold's when it was in Santa Monica, (I don't recall any parking meters back then and that area of SM was never really crowded), going into Gold's to get a quick pump, and then walking the couple of blocks down to the beach.

(Shoeless due to the fact that everything would be locked up in the car except for a beach towel and tanning lotion.)

I have met the vast majority of the people whose photos are posted here. And on many occasions .... an interesting and often humerous story was involved.

In fact I still stay in contact with a few of the guys .... particularly Peter Grymko.

A few little stories may be of interest such as:

Watching Joe weld some new equipment while talking business in the original location.
The day Pete installed a bench so the street gawkers could come inside and watch the action.
The initial 'shock' to most when they first saw the ladies train with the guys.
Leg day with Platz.
IFBB party in the gym.
Harassing Teufel.
Mike and his bike. (Mentzer)
The Gold's Gym parade.

SOme good old memories here, Wes! Thanks.







you couldn't imagine how i envy you.  i met Grymko a few years back (when he was with Keith).  he was very nice and told me things about drug use that i would never repeat on this board.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 22, 2011, 10:49:27 PM
Thanks, HAZ! Pete is a great guy and I've known him for many years.

A few years back I was having lunch with Pete and we were talking about his life and the crazy shit he's done and the great and crazy people we've had the privledge to meet and associate with  ... and we briefly discussed the possibility of writing about the inside world of bodybuilding since day #1 whenever that was.

But as we discussed it Pete decided that we'd better not because neither of us would be alive to autograph copies of the first edition.

If you ever do appear in Vega while Pete's in town. we gotta get together for a lengthy lucnh and do some serious talking.

I can guarantee ya that it'll be an experience long remembered, and you too just might find yourself on some unknown individual's hit list.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 22, 2011, 10:53:11 PM
Thanks, HAZ! Pete is a great guy and I've known him for many years.

A few years back I was having lunch with Pete and we were talking about his life and the crazy shit he's done and the great and crazy people we've had the privledge to meet and associate with  ... and we briefly discussed the possibility of writing about the inside world of bodybuilding since day #1 whenever that was.

But as we discussed it Pete decided that we'd better not because neither of us would be alive to autograph copies of the first edition.

If you ever do appear in Vega while Pete's in town. we gotta get together for a lengthy lucnh and do some serious talking.

I can guarantee ya that it'll be an experience long remembered, and you too just might find yourself on some unknown individual's hit list.

does he head to Vegas often? i would definately make the trip if i got to listen to him for an hour.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Vince B on November 22, 2011, 10:55:07 PM
What happened between Keith and Pete that soured the friendship? Keith never said but it might have something to do with $. Keith used to post a lot about the good times those two had. A pity they weren't friends at the end.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 22, 2011, 11:03:39 PM
HAZ, OK, I'll let him know that.

BTW, If you met Pete and Keith together, you most likely met me also. I was that dumb looking guy standing  in the background watching for the cops to come and arrest us for having too much of a good time.

I actually did get escorted from a casino for having too much of a good time many years ago and Pete was definitely the instigator in that Las Vegas episode.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 22, 2011, 11:12:43 PM
HAZ, OK, I'll let him know that.

BTW, If you met Pete and Keith together, you most likely met me also. I was that dumb looking guy standing  in the background watching for the cops to come and arrest us for having too much of a good time.

I actually did get escorted from a casino for having too much of a good time many years ago and Pete was definitely the instigator in that Las Vegas episode.

when you see him, if you have your computer show him my pic, ask him if he remembers me. he probably doesn't, but he was extremely nice and talked without holding back about the stuff they took way back then. i told him i woulda looked much different if i had talked to him when i was still in hard training.

and yes, i may have met you. it was when Pete had that green suit on, and Keith was wearing the flannel shirt and ballcap. i'm pissed at myself for not making it back to see Keith again before he passed.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 22, 2011, 11:17:22 PM
Vince. I was present and part of that "argument" when it ocurred....  and it was definitely not as you seem to have visualized.

I'll explain parts of that episode later. Right now it's too damn late and we're going out to find the coyote/coyotes that have been causing a disturbence in the  neighborhood. Vigilante style!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 10:00:57 AM
1980 Mr. America was held at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium.

Overall Winner Gary Leonard

HeavyWeight
1     Gary Leonard
2     Greg DeFerro
3     Lance Dreher
4     John Kemper
5     Billy Arlen
6     John Brown
7     Ray Wilson
8     Rufus Howard
9     Marlon Darton
10     Stephen Sepaniak
11     Robert Reis
12     Dave Rogers

Light-HeavyWeight
1     Bronston Austin
2     Ron Teufel
3     Ernie Santiago
4     Charles Glass
5     James Seitzer
6     Robert Jodkiewicz
7     Paul Love
8     Larry Jackson (1)
9     Raymond Gingo
10     Patrick Hayes
11     Jesse Gautreaux
12     George Palmiero

MiddleWeight
1     Richard Baldwin
2     Bill Register
3     Casey Schneider
4     Mike Torchia
5     Derek Prescod
6     Charles Colson
7     Anthony Pandolfo
8     Ed Holmes
9     Earl Herndon
10     Philip Cianciolo
11     James Gaubert
12     David Campbell (1)

LightWeight
1     Ken Passariello
2     John Burkholder
3     Joe Distinti
4     Larry Manuel
5     Paul Daniels
6     Joe Adams
7     John Manoogian
8     Lionel Gaubert
9     Robert DePalma
10     Cornell Maye
11     Dean Tornabene

 
Ray Wilson and Pat Hayes used to train at  our gym back in the day.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 23, 2011, 10:33:14 AM
Stunt, Maxrep,

Thanks for sharing, keep it coming


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 23, 2011, 11:08:59 AM
HAZ, Was that meeting with Pete and Keith at the Oly Expo or at the hotel?

It was a couple of years ago during the Olympia that Pete and Keith and myself had an impromptu meeting during one of the meals at the Orleans coffee shop and we soon found ourselves sitting with and chatting with close to 20 individuals who were well aware of Pete and Keith,

Once the conversations started it was impossible to ask them to leave so that we could continue with our meeting.

Pete and Keith are/were both the type of people that attract others that lead to long term conversations about every subject imaginable.

WHere is your picture located? And I'll do my best to see when he will be returning. He's usually always here for the O.

Stunt


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 23, 2011, 11:13:33 AM
GOtta interrupt with a station break ...


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 23, 2011, 12:10:26 PM
Wes, Haz, figo, stunt... the Peter Grymko stories I could tell! I had dinner with Pete and his wife 4-5 years ago in their home in Apple Valley. Fun, fun time and the guy does not change. I think he cracked out the pot within about 20 minutes of greeting me and my business partner at the door (I didn't partake -stuff messes with me). We were out his way for a meeting so hhe invited us over. He was mentioned in those articles I posted but not by name. It talked about one guy and crazy dosages.

I got a very strong impression that Pete got hit up for every business venture out there and maybe that's what happened between Kieth and Pete.

Pat Hayes had a great build. He trained at Gold's for a while. Another guy I thought had all the right tools to become great was Casey Schneider but he never seemed to make the top placings. I got a few workouts in with Bob Reis. The guy was amazingly strong (at least compared to other guys I trained with).  

Anyone remember Marty and Pete Vranicar from the East Coast? I never met them or saw them out here but they had great builds.

 


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 23, 2011, 12:15:10 PM
Wes, Haz, figo, stunt... the Peter Grymko stories I could tell! I had dinner with Pete and his wife 4-5 years ago in their home in Apple Valley. Fun, fun time and the guy does not change. I think he cracked out the pot within about 20 minutes of greeting me and my business partner at the door (I didn't partake -stuff messes with me). We were out his way for a meeting so hhe invited us over. He was mentioned in those articles I posted but not by name. It talked about one guy and crazy dosages.

I got a very strong impression that Pete got hit up for every business venture out there and maybe that's what happened between Kieth and Pete.

Pat Hayes had a great build. He trained at Gold's for a while. Another guy I thought had all the right tools to become great was Casey Schneider but he never seemed to make the top placings. I got a few workouts in with Bob Reis. The guy was amazingly strong (at least compared to other guys I trained with).  
marty looked great and he did masters show recently looked great as well,,no i don't know him saw pics,,,

Anyone remember Marty and Pete Vranicar from the East Coast? I never met them or saw them out here but they had great builds.

 


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: nosleep on November 23, 2011, 12:15:19 PM
8)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/36/images/Rick-Wayne%20(11).jpg)

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1620/994433/3617442/45857813.jpg)

(http://www.ironguru.com/images/stories/rick-wayne-arm.jpg)

FUCK. THIS DUDE LOOKS GREAT.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 23, 2011, 12:19:00 PM
Wes, Haz, figo, stunt... the Peter Grymko stories I could tell! I had dinner with Pete and his wife 4-5 years ago in their home in Apple Valley. Fun, fun time and the guy does not change. I think he cracked out the pot within about 20 minutes of greeting me and my business partner at the door (I didn't partake -stuff messes with me). We were out his way for a meeting so hhe invited us over. He was mentioned in those articles I posted but not by name. It talked about one guy and crazy dosages.

I got a very strong impression that Pete got hit up for every business venture out there and maybe that's what happened between Kieth and Pete.

Pat Hayes had a great build. He trained at Gold's for a while. Another guy I thought had all the right tools to become great was Casey Schneider but he never seemed to make the top placings. I got a few workouts in with Bob Reis. The guy was amazingly strong (at least compared to other guys I trained with).  

Anyone remember Marty and Pete Vranicar from the East Coast? I never met them or saw them out here but they had great builds.

 

i know all those guys through the magazines only dammit. i could probably tell you something about every obscure bodybuilder that ever got featured in a muscle mag. i remember reading that when Pete decided to leave the east he drove straight to venice with no brakes in his car. he said he was awesome at downshifting and e-braking by the time he arrived. i have all the old mags where he kept placing second in the mr. A because he was too outspoken about his drug use to win in the AAU. lol


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 23, 2011, 12:20:39 PM
Wes, Haz, figo, stunt... the Peter Grymko stories I could tell! I had dinner with Pete and his wife 4-5 years ago in their home in Apple Valley. Fun, fun time and the guy does not change. I think he cracked out the pot within about 20 minutes of greeting me and my business partner at the door (I didn't partake -stuff messes with me). We were out his way for a meeting so hhe invited us over. He was mentioned in those articles I posted but not by name. It talked about one guy and crazy dosages.

I got a very strong impression that Pete got hit up for every business venture out there and maybe that's what happened between Kieth and Pete.

Pat Hayes had a great build. He trained at Gold's for a while. Another guy I thought had all the right tools to become great was Casey Schneider but he never seemed to make the top placings. I got a few workouts in with Bob Reis. The guy was amazingly strong (at least compared to other guys I trained with).  

Anyone remember Marty and Pete Vranicar from the East Coast? I never met them or saw them out here but they had great builds.

 

Mike Arvilla is friends with the Vranicar's if i remember correct.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 12:32:37 PM
David,Haz,Stunt,crownshep,and many others who offered input and memories of days gone by......thanks for making this thread even better than it was with just awesome pics!!   ;)

 8)

(http://bodybuilding_workout.home.insightbb.com/trainingarticles/martyvranicar/vranicar.jpg)

(http://darkwoods.com/bodybuilder/male/bb/gallery/fullsize/vranic01.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/curt_james/BodySpace/BodyBlog/tnpeteandmartyvranicar.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=160296.0;attach=182963;image)

Recent shot of Marty turning pro!!

(http://musclememory.com/magCovers/md/md1704.jpg)

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRcqZPj9vrK04P0y7HPWQKx8R2MZN3P98dIkp4x4yHs6D3Egy3f_t89L_cKZw)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: dr.chimps on November 23, 2011, 12:36:41 PM
FUCK. THIS DUDE LOOKS GREAT.
Rick Wayne. Good writer, as well.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 23, 2011, 12:37:34 PM
i have a pic of a 1979 IFBB pro show with Callender, Coe, Robinson and 5 or six other top guys. at the end of the lineup is Grymko and he is easily six inches wider than all of them. i'll see if i can scan it without wrecking the mag.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 12:38:09 PM
Got a few pics of Pat Hayes and Ray Wilson,but it won`t ley me post them.....not in the correct jpg. format or some silly shit!!  :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 23, 2011, 12:39:44 PM
Rick Wayne. Good writer, as well.

rick ended up being a consultant or something for the leader (Prime Minister?) of St. Lucia i think i recall. and married Mae Mollica.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 12:45:40 PM
I guess we`ll just have to post some Grymko shots !  8)

(http://gregladd.bizland.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/petegrymkowski9.jpg.w180h384.jpg)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1611.0;attach=9793;image)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S12vVzDweOI/AAAAAAAAC8U/HHAOQ4PtTTg/s400/Pete-Grymkowski-1.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: dr.chimps on November 23, 2011, 12:48:25 PM
rick ended up being a consultant or something for the leader (Prime Minister?) of St. Lucia i think i recall. and married Mae Mollica.
Good for him. I always got the feeling he was ill-used by the industry.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 23, 2011, 12:59:12 PM
I guess we`ll just have to post some Grymko shots !  8)

(http://gregladd.bizland.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/petegrymkowski9.jpg.w180h384.jpg)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1611.0;attach=9793;image)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S12vVzDweOI/AAAAAAAAC8U/HHAOQ4PtTTg/s400/Pete-Grymkowski-1.jpg)


one of the best compliments i ever got was when someone compared me to Grymko at this show. 5'9  239lbs  2nd place


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 12:59:17 PM
Problem with Firefox....more Grymko shots coming up!!  8)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/35/images/Pete-Grymkowski%20(12).jpg)

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1nLdNGnrAes/TOhCWoEn60I/AAAAAAAABEY/cHSS1yREf7Q/petegrymkowski2.jpg)

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpRO_QxWh-YzMej3_AvBBOw6wzwI8FeGQU_hfWRJrWmbn4TOI56914_x1m)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/35/images/Pete-Grymkowski%20(7).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/35/images/Pete-Grymkowski%20(8).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/35/images/Pete-Grymkowski%20(6).jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 01:00:29 PM
one of the best compliments i ever got was when someone compared me to Grymko at this show. 5'9  239lbs
Christ,you`re dwarfing those guys!! 


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 01:02:42 PM
I remember waaaaay back when I first started lifting weights...looking at S&H and MD mags wondering why Grymko always placed second in the AAU Mr. America contest...........he looked so much better than the winners every time IMO.

This was waaay back when he trained with Padilla who was always very smooth back in those days,but finally realized hos potential and became famous.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 23, 2011, 01:03:28 PM
Christ,you`re dwarfing those guys!! 

ya, weird sport hey?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 23, 2011, 01:04:42 PM
I remember waaaaay back when I first started lifting weights...looking at S&H and MD mags wondering why Grymko always placed second in the AAU Mr. America contest...........he looked so much better than the winners every time IMO.

This was waaay back when he trained with Padilla who was always very smooth back in those days,but finally realized hos potential and became famous.

i had read Pete had his drug use monitered by the Rochester university and because of that they wouldn't let him win. too public about it


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 01:05:04 PM
More of Pete.....one of the first mass monsters and he had a tiny waist !!   8)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/35/images/Pete-Grymkowski%20(16).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/35/images/Pete-Grymkowski%20(14).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/35/images/Pete-Grymkowski%20(13).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/35/images/Pete-Grymkowski%20(10).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/35/images/Pete-Grymkowski%20(1).jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 01:06:30 PM
i had read Pete had his drug use monitered by the Rochester university and because of that they wouldn't let him win. too public about it
I believe I remember hearing that years later also.

Like the rest of the contestants were all natural!!  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 01:09:47 PM
ya, weird sport hey?
Yup,completely weird!!

I hate trying to explain competing and its ins and outs to people who don`t train.

They look at me like I`m from another fucking planet or something.

First you rip your body apart by pitting it against black iron  everyday,then you eat like a Spartan for 16-20 weeks or more,then you shave off all bodyhair,lie in a tanning bed,also put on a fake tan that looks fake,rub oil into your muscles,put on trunks that resemble your wifes smallest panties,and pose in front of hundreds of people!!

Wonder why they don`t get it ???  















LOL  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 23, 2011, 01:20:10 PM
Christ,you`re dwarfing those guys!! 

that contest was really disappointing. it was the Western Canadian Championships. that would have been a nice title to have. they stopped having it after that. you go straight from provincials to nationals. i did the nationals several times but never even got looked at. just decorated the curtains at the back of the stage.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 23, 2011, 01:22:15 PM
I guess we`ll just have to post some Grymko shots !  8)

(http://gregladd.bizland.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/petegrymkowski9.jpg.w180h384.jpg)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1611.0;attach=9793;image)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S12vVzDweOI/AAAAAAAAC8U/HHAOQ4PtTTg/s400/Pete-Grymkowski-1.jpg)


looking at Pete back then you would think his skeleton was three feet wide. seeing him now it is amazing how narrow his shoulders are. you wonder how he could have built so much width. and why someone like Heath can't get wider.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 23, 2011, 01:24:07 PM
Christ,you`re dwarfing those guys!! 

I'll second that.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 01:24:55 PM
that contest was really disappointing. it was the Western Canadian Championships. that would have been a nice title to have. they stopped having it after that. you go straight from provincials to nationals. i did the nationals several times but never even got looked at. just decorated the curtains at the back of the stage.
I know that feeling!!

My friend and old time legendary bodybuilder Dave Mastorakis was showing us old pics of some of his contests once................in one pic he looked outstanding and easily looked better than other guy in the comparison shots as well as relaxed.

I said,geezus Dave you killed those guys.......he said,Tim,I didn`t even place in that show at all!!  :(

Like Bob Chick says,sometimes it`s the elevator,sometimes the shaft!!  :)

Weird though that at certain shows you know damned well you should have placed better,but didn`t.........very disappointing.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 23, 2011, 01:52:18 PM
I know that feeling!!

My friend and old time legendary bodybuilder Dave Mastorakis was showing us old pics of some of his contests once................in one pic he looked outstanding and easily looked better than other guy in the comparison shots as well as relaxed.

I said,geezus Dave you killed those guys.......he said,Tim,I didn`t even place in that show at all!!  :(

Like Bob Chick says,sometimes it`s the elevator,sometimes the shaft!!  :)

Weird though that at certain shows you know damned well you should have placed better,but didn`t.........very disappointing.

my trouble with the nationals is that i never did them two years in a row. 5 times total, but that was over 16 years. seems like you have to go one year, they notice you at the end when it is too late, and then they look for you the next year.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 02:27:04 PM
my trouble with the nationals is that i never did them two years in a row. 5 times total, but that was over 16 years. seems like you have to go one year, they notice you at the end when it is too late, and then they look for you the next year.
Yup,it`s best to keep your name and face out there for sure.

At times, with some competitors who enter the big shows every year after year,it seems like they finally win just for putting the time in regardless of how they look!  :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 23, 2011, 03:19:33 PM
here it is!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: andreisdaman on November 23, 2011, 03:25:03 PM
Good for him. I always got the feeling he was ill-used by the industry.

I always got that feeling as well....as if the industry at the time just wasn't ready for him..I wonder why he never competed in Olympias???


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 03:54:29 PM
here it is!
WOW!!

He`s making a lineup of legends look small by comparison!! 


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 23, 2011, 11:30:22 PM
here it is!
wow!

Guy was big, what's his height? 6 foot?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: BB on November 23, 2011, 11:45:33 PM
wow!

Guy was big, what's his height? 6 foot?

I remember him being listed as 5' 11".


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 24, 2011, 12:40:11 AM
I remember him being listed as 5' 11".

ya, 72 nationals he was listed at 5'11" and 242 lbs.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 24, 2011, 12:49:38 AM
I believe I remember hearing that years later also.

Like the rest of the contestants were all natural!!  ;D

Pete used to talk about it, University of Rochester. He also used to supply half the Eastern Seaboard with shipments from Europe. That was before he became an owner of Gold's. 


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Mjolnir on November 24, 2011, 01:17:59 AM
I know it's already been said but every one of these guys look phenominal and todays behemoth's look like total shit in comparison.  Let's hope it comes full circle.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 24, 2011, 03:11:42 AM
Pete used to talk about it, University of Rochester. He also used to supply half the Eastern Seaboard with shipments from Europe. That was before he became an owner of Gold's. 
how did Pete Grimko achieve his financial success? How did he buy into golds, I mean..


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 24, 2011, 03:24:03 AM
how did Pete Grimko achieve his financial success? How did he buy into golds, I mean..

I`ve asked that question before but never had an answer,i remember reading that one minute he was living and sleeping in the gym,next thing you know,he owns the place.I think its been hinted at that he got the money to buy golds from a tony soprano kind of guy.Remember the pic of Pete that i think was from that best in the World show where he is stood on the end of the lineup,closest to the camera,shoulders looked massive in that shot.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 24, 2011, 03:26:17 AM
This is the pic.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 24, 2011, 03:30:37 AM
Clearly huge, one of the biggest of his day

When/which comp did he turn pro?

As to the transition from squatter to owner, as you said, I've wondered bout that before too..


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 24, 2011, 03:42:09 AM
Pete won the 77 Mr America in the heavyweight class and also the Mr World that year,so i think they let him turn pro on that basis.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 24, 2011, 03:46:55 AM
Pete won the 77 Mr America in the heavyweight class and also the Mr World that year,so i think they let him turn pro on that basis.
thanks

I thought he'd never turned pro


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 24, 2011, 07:53:29 AM
Some of this stuff you guys have been asking and talking about are the very reason that I recommended we write that book about the inside story of bodybuilding .... from the 'viewpoint' of three to four individuals (been there, done that type of guys) who have been involved through the 40's, 50's, 60' and 70's because in just a few years all that 'knowledge' will pass on to greener pastures or warmer regions down below..

Pete's story alone .... his move from the east coast to California and how he and his partners became Gold's Gym owners and the true story how they built a small gym in Santa Monica into a world wide business, etc is in itself fascinating and somewhat unbelievable.

But that would only be one chapter in a book of unending chapters that would include the likes of individuals who were important within the world of bodybuilding - i.e. the usual suspects.

But it would also include chapters regarding the unimportant but colorful characters in the game who have never received the publicity they so rightfully deserve - i.e. the unusual suspects.

Somewhere on this computer I have an endless list of names of individuals who will be included in this book if I ever get it written (PETE, are you reading this?) and that list includes the 'usual suspects" you GetBiggers all love and hate plus many others whom you've most likely never heard of ...including you, WES and HAZ!

For example here are just a few relatively unknown but colorful characters from that list who have contributed directly or indirectly and in their own way to what we call 'bodybuilding' today,

Gene Mozee
Ed Yarick
Bill Peanuts West
George Frenn
Rev, Zuver
Rhino
Wynn Paris
Joe Valdez
Walt Baptiste
Ed Holvochick
Bill Starr
etc, etc.
And for old times sake, let me add Casey Sneider

Plus a couple hundred others who have interesting stories that should be told.

Add those to the 'usual suspects' whose names within the bodybuilding world we're all somewhat familiar with .... but whose importance is a mystery and .... that book would be endless.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 11:40:07 AM
Thanks Stunt.....some legendary "iron game" names on that list,especially that Wes guy!  LOL  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 24, 2011, 11:51:40 AM
Clearly huge, one of the biggest of his day

When/which comp did he turn pro?

As to the transition from squatter to owner, as you said, I've wondered bout that before too..

He turned Pro at a Mr. World competition in Mexico. He used to hang with a bunch of wise guys back in Rochester and he was a huge gear connection himself. That's why everyone would say I'm going over to see Dr. Peter and get my medication. He always referred to gear as "my medi--kay--tion. Then he'd do the Grymko laugh.  

His portion of the down payment on Gold's was not a huge amount of money (something like $14k). The building was leased, the equipment was run down, there was no Gold's licensing and the former owners wife had just passed from cancer (or was about to). Pete brought in Ed Conners and another guy but that guy didn't stay and Tim Kimber (from Rochester) bought in and became the 3rd partner.

Pete brought in his brother Paul as a salesman and Ed had the legal work done on the licensing program. They struggled to stay afloat the first year or two because members were leaving due to the equipment being in such poor repair. Three things turned it around. The first was Hart-to-Hart moving the gym to the bigger and newer location (where it is today). I guess they paid the guy's a nice sum of money to use the gym on an episode (I was an extra) the second was they struck the deal with Flex Equipment company to use Gold's as a showcase for their equipment so when potential Gold's licensee's would come to town, they'd see a gym-full of nice new equipment. Third, Pete told me that most of the money they made from Gold's came from the sale of T-shirts, etc. At one point Gold's Gym T-shirts were #2 in the World in their category with only Harley Davidson ahead of them. They were giving them away to Hulk Hogan, Stallone, David Lee Roth and everyone had to have a Gold's Gym T-Shirt.    

People all talk about how crazy Pete was but many forget Pete had a quality that’s essential in business. Charisma times 10. Pete always had an amazing ability to make people laugh and feel good about themselves and people of influence loved being around him. The new owners were able to buy the gym but they couldn’t buy that.  


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 11:52:43 AM
 8)

(http://www.edcorney.net/EdMay1967SMALL.jpg)

(http://www.edcorney.net/Ed%26BillGrant.jpg)

(http://www.edcorney.net/boyeredandbill.jpg)

(http://i1.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/a4/f5/2d07_1_sbl.JPG)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/09%20bodybuilding%20pix/Rod-Koontz.jpg)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/All%20Bodybuilder%20Photos/Ele-man.jpg)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/09%20bodybuilding%20pix/davejohns1_1877.jpg)

(http://forum.iron-age-classic-bodybuilding.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=7ccad128df15a6f3726696eda62c3d73&action=dlattach;topic=5818.0;id=16754;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 11:58:56 AM
Tim Kimber these days.......into music now.
http://www.timkimbermusic.com/index.html

(http://www.timkimbermusic.com/images/timjennyframe.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 24, 2011, 11:59:54 AM
Thanks for the info Max,very interesting,and how brave (or crazy) must Dave Dupree be for standing under an elephant.I wonder if that was when they had the 77 America and the guys rode down the street on elephants,i remember seeing pics of Ken Waller on one.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 24, 2011, 12:02:04 PM
This is a pic from the 77 America.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 12:02:28 PM
Thanks for the info Max,very interesting,and how brave (or crazy) must Dave Dupree be for standing under an elephant.I wonder if that was when they had the 77 America and the guys rode down the street on elephants,i remember seeing pics of Ken Waller on one.
Yes Shep,its from the parade for the 77 Mr. America contest.

Wasn`t Rudy Hermosillo on the elephant with Waller?



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 24, 2011, 12:05:54 PM
OMG Stunt. Wynn Paris... talk about colorful characters. What a nutcase. The guy had the lock on the juice bars for Jack LaLanne European health spa's when it was run by Ray Wilson and his group. One of the managers told me Wynn would show up at key meetings in his bathrobe. After meeting him a few times I believe it.

CF Smith came around Ray Mentzer's Gym a few times. He was a huge calorie is just a calorie guy and would get in shape for a show eating Big Mac's. He and his wife went crazy on amphetamines from what I remember. That was around the same time as Mike Mentzer's bank incident. Maybe they got the same batch? Hmmmm.

Fun thread glad to see Crown and Wes into the mix.  


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 12:12:29 PM
OMG Stunt. Wynn Paris... talk about colorful characters. What a nutcase. The guy had the lock on the juice bars for Jack LaLanne European health spa's when it was run by Ray Wilson and his group. One of the managers told me Wynn would show up at key meetings in his bathrobe. After meeting him a few times I believe it.

CF Smith came around Ray Mentzer's Gym a few times. He was a huge calorie is just a calorie guy and would get in shape for a show eating Big Mac's. He and his wife went crazy on amphetamines from what I remember. That was around the same time as Mike Mentzer's bank incident. Maybe they got the same batch? Hmmmm.

Fun thread glad to see Crown and Wes into the mix. 
Funny stuff David...........you meet some real nuts in this sport,but overall,most are great people.

I guess you have to be a little fucking crazy to be a bodybuilder anyway!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 12:13:39 PM
This is a pic from the 77 America.
OK,thanks Shep.  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 12:15:13 PM
Fun thread glad to see Crown and Wes into the mix. 
Are you kidding me,I`m glad you Shep,Stunt and Haz are in the thread.....you guys were there for a lot of legendary shit.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 24, 2011, 12:34:16 PM
Are you kidding me,I`m glad you Shep,Stunt and Haz are in the thread.....you guys were there for a lot of legendary shit.

Wes amazingly I didn't really realize how legendary it was at the time. I just loved training and like meeting the guys and learning from them. I never really cared about competing (even though I did). I just wanted a good build. How the heck did I ever get to meet and train with some of the best in the World? I'm still trying to figure that one out.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 12:45:21 PM
Wes amazingly I didn't really realize how legendary it was at the time. I just loved training and like meeting the guys and learning from them. I never really cared about competing (even though I did). I just wanted a good build. How the heck did I ever get to meet and train with some of the best in the World? I'm still trying to figure that one out.
In the right place,at the right time my friend.

we had some greats in the gyms I trained in back east,but none ever got too much coverage except for Jeff King and Matt Dufresne.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: slate on November 24, 2011, 01:26:07 PM
not going to read 18 pages of this crap the first 5 pages are enough

all I see is a group of closet homosexuals in a homo commune financed by old jewish schmoes

If anything things were worst then as there was no money other than (sugar) daddys

To call this Mecca should make muslims bomb the fucking place







Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 01:29:10 PM
not going to read 18 pages of this crap the first 5 pages are enough

all I see is a group of closet homosexuals in a homo commune financed by old jewish schmoes

If anything things were worst then as there was no money other than (sugar) daddys

To call this Mecca should make muslims bomb the fucking place






Back then,it wasn`t about the money,it was about a passion for training.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Siimply on November 24, 2011, 01:43:19 PM
(http://i1.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/a4/f5/2d07_1_sbl.JPG)

Damn, who is it ? Strong build ! Thanks in advance


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: slate on November 24, 2011, 01:44:49 PM
shit I dont believe you are that naive

sure AHnold did not come out of the countryside in Austria to be touched by Ben etc-

yeah he liked the attention, and so did the others that joined then
all of them psychologically troubled craving for the big muscle suit for one reason or another - experimenting with new crap like everybody else was doing at the time

different drugs different groups

but make no mistake this party would not be happening if it want for the suggar dady's

it was pretty much like the Boogie nights movie with marky mark about the porn industry in the 60s- just with muscles and no fucking women





Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 01:44:52 PM
Dr. C.F. Smith,you`re welcome.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Siimply on November 24, 2011, 01:52:06 PM
(http://classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/cfsmith2.jpg)
(http://classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/peterstach1.jpg)
(http://classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/victannyjr3.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 01:54:40 PM
 8)

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/oliva/so161.jpg)

(http://kulturystyka.pl/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/mun.bmp)

(http://www.builtreport.com/1972olympia/007.jpg)

(http://www.builtreport.com/1972olympia/041.jpg)

(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/060.jpg)

(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/Tyrol3/119119.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on November 24, 2011, 02:35:54 PM
not going to read 18 pages of this crap the first 5 pages are enough

all I see is a group of closet homosexuals in a homo commune financed by old jewish schmoes

If anything things were worst then as there was no money other than (sugar) daddys

To call this Mecca should make muslims bomb the fucking place






PISS OFF...


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 02:40:48 PM
 LOL ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: THEBOSS on November 24, 2011, 03:25:55 PM
Tim Kimber these days.......into music now.
http://www.timkimbermusic.com/index.html

(http://www.timkimbermusic.com/images/timjennyframe.jpg)
;D he has a CHIMP named MR COLEMAN  ?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 24, 2011, 04:09:07 PM
OMG Stunt. Wynn Paris... talk about colorful characters. What a nutcase. The guy had the lock on the juice bars for Jack LaLanne European health spa's when it was run by Ray Wilson and his group. One of the managers told me Wynn would show up at key meetings in his bathrobe. After meeting him a few times I believe it.

CF Smith came around Ray Mentzer's Gym a few times. He was a huge calorie is just a calorie guy and would get in shape for a show eating Big Mac's. He and his wife went crazy on amphetamines from what I remember. That was around the same time as Mike Mentzer's bank incident. Maybe they got the same batch? Hmmmm.

Fun thread glad to see Crown and Wes into the mix.  

CF Smith......one crazy bastard back in the day. Trained at Pearls the same time I did.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: slate on November 24, 2011, 04:11:53 PM
looks like i might as well leave 'the coach'''s homoerotic thread alone 

it is always the right wingers that are the worst homos-the closeted ones


keep on trucking boys


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 04:17:00 PM
Another shot of the good and crazy doctor:

(http://classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/cfsmith2.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 24, 2011, 04:18:38 PM
looks like i might as well leave 'the coach'''s homoerotic thread alone  

it is always the right wingers that are the worst homos-the closeted ones


keep on trucking boys

Gotta love how the teenagers on this site didn't even know what bodybuilding was let alone who these people even were before they came and ruined this site. Again, I blame Ron 100%.

It's also people like this idiot who gave bodybuilding an even worse reputation. Fuck you troll.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: che on November 24, 2011, 04:21:15 PM
Great thread


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Mjolnir on November 24, 2011, 04:23:35 PM
Hey WES do you have any Lance Dreher shots? I remeber seeing him in a magazine as a kid and he had insane lats that started on his ass and also biceps that were really big at the lower insertion point in the crook of his elbow.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Vince B on November 24, 2011, 04:34:21 PM
Randy Roach has now written two books about the goings on in the Irongame over the years. He called them Muscle, Smoke and Mirrors.

Readers are impressed at the detail and info contained in these books. It is supposed to be well written and well researched. Exposes

a lot about what went on behind the scenes in bodybuilding.

http://www.randyroach.ca/

http://www.musclesmokeandmirrors.com/media/Prologue-Muscle-Smoke-and-Mirrors-Vol-II.pdf


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 05:06:09 PM
Gotta love how the teenagers on this site didn't even know what bodybuilding was let alone who these people even were before they came and ruined this site. Again, I blame Ron 100%.
These guys are far better than todays guys..........I`m being really nice and very generous here.  :)

  


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 05:06:48 PM
Hey WES do you have any Lance Dreher shots? I remeber seeing him in a magazine as a kid and he had insane lats that started on his ass and also biceps that were really big at the lower insertion point in the crook of his elbow.
I`ll post some in a minute.  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: andreisdaman on November 24, 2011, 05:14:45 PM
I`ll post some in a minute.  :)

hey Wes..you know or hear anything about Arthur Jones?....is it true he was a racist?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 05:15:33 PM
 8)

(http://classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/lancedreher4.jpg)

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR87TI9cfhtlmgis9Pz7WIkENp8UtBjw4vecC_TC6CvgnfXlz2Oxqw9Ay72)

(http://classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/lancedreher3.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1304597163/med_gallery_1_4_17422.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/32/images/Lance-Dreher%20(20).jpg)

(http://img5.hostingpics.net/pics/390379index.php.jpg)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=716.0;attach=3824;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=30p7ft7175bs7ej7d2q9o115l3&action=dlattach;topic=716.0;attach=3823;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 05:16:29 PM
hey Wes..you know or hear anything about Arthur Jones?....is it true he was a racist?
I know a little about him,and not really sure,but I have heard that rumor.

don`t quote me on that though.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: che on November 24, 2011, 05:16:49 PM
Let's not forget the Spanish ''Mecca''

Angel Illescas

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/25182_372719659567_359856599567_3470866_6124533_n.jpg)

with Greg de Ferro and Roger Callard

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3153/angel30kj.jpg)

(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1040/angel7gb.jpg)

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4981/angelillescas0108cd.jpg)



Francisco del Yerro

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/24182_384588624567_359856599567_3674092_3183717_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/62513_1382772861904_1609449916_890299_6147430_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/29661_390009684567_359856599567_3793840_3183706_n.jpg)

Jesus de Porras

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/25652_381055704567_359856599567_3594995_8044054_n.jpg)



Salvador Ruiz  some of the  greatest  abs in bodybuilding history

(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9493/ruiz0wg.jpg)

(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7084/salva4kj.jpg)

(http://images.suite101.com/170073_net_dsc_0124.jpg)




Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 05:17:57 PM
CF Smith......one crazy bastard back in the day. Trained at Pearls the same time I did.
Hey Joe,got any C.F. Smith stories to share?

When he first hit the mags,he was unbelievable.......one of my favorite bodybuilders at that time.

Left the scene as quickly as he showed up.  :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 05:19:34 PM
Great shots Che........except for that fucking Image Shack site.......fuckers!  :(

Thanks for the contribution and post more if you got `em .  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: andreisdaman on November 24, 2011, 05:22:48 PM
Hey Wes...I don't understand the ins and outs of how guys turned pro back in the day....who or what determined if a guy turned pro?....was there cronyism or payoffs in order for a guy to turn pro?....did you have to win certain contests?....could you only turn pro under the IFBB or could you turn pro under other organizations?....take us step by step as to how an amateur turned pro.....also no homo here but were certain "favors" performed for guys to turn pro as has been rumored?..or is that just  a myth or blown out of proportion?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: che on November 24, 2011, 05:27:25 PM
Great shots Che........except for that fucking Image Shack site.......fuckers!  :(

Thanks for the contribution and post more if you got `em .  :)
;)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/29904_402375309567_359856599567_4084734_85554_n.jpg)

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2336/arnold4ae.jpg)


50yr old Salvador Ruiz

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4434/sruiz35li.jpg)
(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/1330/sruiz40qu.jpg)
(http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7416/sruiz22rn.jpg)
(http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7042/sruiz8tu.jpg)



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 05:28:50 PM
Hey Wes...I don't understand the ins and outs of how guys turned pro back in the day....who or what determined if a guy turned pro?....was there cronyism or payoffs in order for a guy to turn pro?....did you have to win certain contests?....could you only turn pro under the IFBB or could you turn pro under other organizations?....take us step by step as to how an amateur turned pro.....also no homo here but were certain "favors" performed for guys to turn pro as has been rumored?..or is that just  a myth or blown out of proportion?
To my knowledge,at one point there was no such thing as a pro card.

If you won a big title like the Mr. America,or Mr. Universe,or a similar title,this entitled you to compete in the Olympia.

The Mr. Olympia was actually created to provide a venue for past Mr. Universe and Mr. World winners,to give them a bigger title and more incentive to keep training and competing.

Someone else here should correct anything I might have gotten wrong,but I think this is a pretty accurate description.

You also had the Professional NABBA Mr. Universe.......if you won the overall amatuer NABBA Mr. U,than you qualified to compete for the pro title as well.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 05:29:50 PM
;)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/29904_402375309567_359856599567_4084734_85554_n.jpg)

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2336/arnold4ae.jpg)


50yr old Salvador Ruiz

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4434/sruiz35li.jpg)
(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/1330/sruiz40qu.jpg)
(http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7416/sruiz22rn.jpg)
(http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7042/sruiz8tu.jpg)


DID I MENTION THAT IMAGE SHACK FUCKING SUX ???

THOSE BASTARDS!!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: che on November 24, 2011, 05:31:19 PM
DID I MENTION THAT IMAGE SHACK FUCKING SUX ???

THOSE BASTARDS!!
What's wrong ,you can't see the pics  ???


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 05:34:03 PM
What's wrong ,you can't see the pics  ???
Fucking yellow frog!!  :(

I can see some of them,but most are the stupid frog.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: che on November 24, 2011, 05:37:36 PM
Fucking yellow frog!!  :(

I can see some of them,but most are the stupid frog.
SALVADOR 50YR OLD


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: che on November 24, 2011, 05:38:35 PM
Rare Arnold pic



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 05:41:19 PM
Great shots of Ruiz,especially at 50...............fucking insane conditioning!!

I still have the english version of the Arnold cover mag.

Pics are showing up now.......thanks bro!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 05:48:38 PM
 8)

(http://www.geocities.co.jp/Athlete-Crete/2377/k.sudo.muscle.JPG)

(http://www.davedraper.com/pmwiki/uploads//PmWiki/FrankZane.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UvDw4tEFoHI/TT9Wyyf6PSI/AAAAAAAAABw/M6ZXGN98we8/s1600/columbo1.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach%3Btopic=290470.0%3Battach=330139%3Bimage)

(http://i13.servimg.com/u/f13/13/83/36/15/kozo2010.jpg)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1179.0;attach=7242;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 05:50:21 PM
Steve Romanelli.......remember him?



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 05:51:55 PM
Another shot of Kozo Sudo:

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1179.0;attach=7249;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: TrueGrit on November 24, 2011, 06:44:11 PM
Great build on Kozo Sudo. I'd never heard of him until now.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 24, 2011, 06:56:48 PM
Great build on Kozo Sudo. I'd never heard of him until now.

The Japanese Serge Nubret, won the NABBA Mr Universe twice in the 70's


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 24, 2011, 07:25:44 PM
dammit i worked out for twenty minutes today. thanx alot guys, this thread is inspiring me.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 24, 2011, 07:31:03 PM
dammit i worked out for twenty minutes today. thanx alot guys, this thread is inspiring me.

Twenty minutes? be careful dont overtrain


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 24, 2011, 07:55:55 PM
Twenty minutes? be careful dont overtrain

seriously, in my condition i'll be sore for a week from that.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Vince B on November 24, 2011, 08:06:25 PM
Hazbin brought up an interesting subject about judging. He said that even guys who look great often get overlooked because it is their first time in front of the judges. If they come back the next year they often get placed more accurately. This sort of thing shouldn't happen but goodness knows how judges were and are selected. In the old days various gym owners were invited to judge and that was supposed to even out the biases if competitors came from all the gyms. The gym owners would promote the contest, sell tickets and help bring competitors and fans. Those days seem to be long gone in big cities. There are perhaps 3 to 5 times as many gyms today yet contests don't have more spectators.

To make sure you get a fair go with the judges make sure you help select them!  


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on November 24, 2011, 08:06:32 PM
How about Mo Makkawy??

or

Ali Mala???

Please and Thank you!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on November 24, 2011, 08:43:58 PM
These guys are far better than todays guys..........I`m being really nice and very generous here.  :)

  
Spot on!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 24, 2011, 09:54:08 PM
How about Mo Makkawy??

or

Ali Mala???

Please and Thank you!

the first pic i saw of Ali Malla was the mr. international contest, 3/4 back pose. i couldn't believe it. looked amazing for an unknown (at the time) amateur.


a couple years later as a pro he was livid backstage because there was a woman on the judging panel.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 24, 2011, 10:02:12 PM
How about Mo Makkawy??

or

Ali Mala???

Please and Thank you!

Makkawy was also at Pearls the same time we were. He was training there for I think the 1977 or 78 Universe.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 24, 2011, 10:22:39 PM
Makkawy was also at Pearls the same time we were. He was training there for I think the 1977 or 78 Universe.

dammit,  these guys were like on another planet to me. and you guys were training with them. i did everything wrong, not having a clue how to train. i wonder how i coulda looked with a mentor ???


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 24, 2011, 10:37:09 PM
if anyone is looking for any 80's 90's muscle magazines i have a bunch of doubles. (people drop them off at my gym all the time).

this is where some kid that has never worked out replies 'outed'.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 25, 2011, 12:07:34 AM
COACH. Help me out here and correct me when I'm wrong but back in the day when you trained at Bill's in Pasadena, CF trained with Clinton and they both planned to enter the Mr A which was being promoted by Gold's which only existed in Santa Monica  under the ownership of Ken Sprague before Pete and Tim and Ed bought the place.

And both CF and Clinton asked Bill if he'd mimd if the both of them would leave Bill's gym and prep for the America at Gold's believing that it would be adventageous to do so in order to win or place high in the contest.

I recall the above as being pretty accurate but I forget the date and who won the A that year.

Was it Dave John's? And exactly where did Dave train? I never saw him at Bill's nor Gold's.

And I sort of recall a pretty bad incident the following year when CF competed in the A when it was held back east and started yelling at the judges while doing his solo routine during the prejudging or the finals. Has that incident ever been documented or simply overlooked?

We might have discussed this earlier but I gotta assume you knew Rob Johnson. Solo, and Wayne Bouvier from Bill's back then or were you there when Harry(?)  ran the place?

Might have discussed this earlier also but ..... Rory L. was a teenager back then who traied in a gym a few miles further east and Rob would drive out there to get a haircut from Rory in back of the gym. The gym was located at the very eastern edge of the LA basin before it turned into the desert wasteland. Do you recall the name of that gym and who owned it? And did you know Rory back then?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 25, 2011, 12:34:47 AM
COACH, Couple more questions. (Actually ... a memory refresher.)

Were you one of the BB's who helped close down the Swedish Smorgasboard Buffet in Santa Monica when the Gold's Gym guys would pay the $8 and then proceed to eat everything on the buffet line and then demand more?

Also did you ever have a meal at The German's when it was located in Venice close to the beach ... a 12 egg omlete anf a huge bowl of fresh strawberrys for about $3 and Gold's and World's members packed the place.

How about a meal or two at Zucky's across from Weider's first west coast office run by Draper? Arnold's dining spot back then.

And were you present at that afternoon get together the Doc threw on behalf of Birdsong's participation in the following day's IFBB International contest in Mexico?

Bob won that one but the highlite of that event was Sergio loudly  and repeatedly challenging Arnold to a posedown  until Weider stood up and asked him to stop as Arnold refused to step on stage against him .... and the house booeed until  Franco stood up and accepted the challenge.

More to follow .... Nazario, D Adrian, M. Gentle, J. Corvello, Embassy Auditorium, Kimber, Jeff/Cory,  yada, yada, yada


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 25, 2011, 01:17:49 AM
dammit,  these guys were like on another planet to me. and you guys were training with them. i did everything wrong, not having a clue how to train. i wonder how i coulda looked with a mentor ???

From the few pics I've seen, it doesn't look like you did everything wrong. Maybe you should have mentored some guys. This is where some white punk on the board all of 160 pounds  calls you the N word or says "no homo".


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 25, 2011, 01:26:03 AM
From the few pics I've seen, it doesn't look like you did everything wrong. Maybe you should have mentored some guys. This is where some white punk on the board all of 160 pounds  calls you the N word or says "no homo".
x2


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 25, 2011, 01:28:16 AM
From the few pics I've seen, it doesn't look like you did everything wrong. Maybe you should have mentored some guys. This is where some white punk on the board all of 160 pounds  calls you the N word or says "no homo".
maxrep

Thanks for the background on grimko

So he's the guy you alluded to being on megadoses? Please share! ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 25, 2011, 01:30:40 AM
MAX, HAZ, WES, and all you other BB history buffs! I've been skimming through this stuff pretty fast and have yet to read or digest it all but,.....  MAX, your post regarding Pete and company's initial involvement with GOLDs is pretty damn accurate, BUT missing some damn interesting details .... and I am planning to talk with Pete and others to ask for permission to paint an accurate picture of what we have  been discussing and will also ask Pete if I can post shit (good shit)  that has never been mentioned as far as I know.

As of this precise moment I have forgotten who Pete and Ed and ____?____ (Tim came in later??) purchasred Gold's from, but I do recall that Ken Sprague bought it from Joe Gold and had a legal 'problem' when Joe wanted to use his name once again to open his new gym a mile or so south of the Santa Monica location.

When Ken owned the gym I was off to join in a war someplace and when I returned Pete and Ed and ___?____ were the new owners, but I was recently told that some other party had purchased it from Ken before Pete and crew got involved.

I sort of recall that Ken had retained all Gold's Gym publishig rights and I ran inro him several times while he was shooting in the 2nd street location before publishing a Gold's Gym book of some kind.

While Ken owned Gold's, he promoted the A at the SM Civic Auditorium using a live orchestra and Mae West (escorted by Bert Goodrich) awarded  the overall to Dave Johns.

Ken had a special newspaper published for the contest and organized a parade through town.

More to follow if there's any interest


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 04:02:34 AM
dammit i worked out for twenty minutes today. thanx alot guys, this thread is inspiring me.
All right Haz,this could put you right back on the comeback trail................... ..keep it up bud!!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 04:07:56 AM
How about Mo Makkawy??

or

Ali Mala???

Please and Thank you!
No problem,once I wake up and train and all that happy horseshit.

Right now,it`s just me and Mr. Coffee!  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 04:15:45 AM
I hate posting pics and waking up and seeing a Tripod or Image Shack emblem.........those fuckers!!  :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on November 25, 2011, 05:24:58 AM
I hate posting pics and waking up and seeing a Tripod or Image Shack emblem.........those fuckers!!  :(
LOL


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 25, 2011, 08:43:24 AM
COACH. Help me out here and correct me when I'm wrong but back in the day when you trained at Bill's in Pasadena, CF trained with Clinton and they both planned to enter the Mr A which was being promoted by Gold's which only existed in Santa Monica  under the ownership of Ken Sprague before Pete and Tim and Ed bought the place.

And both CF and Clinton asked Bill if he'd mimd if the both of them would leave Bill's gym and prep for the America at Gold's believing that it would be adventageous to do so in order to win or place high in the contest.

I recall the above as being pretty accurate but I forget the date and who won the A that year.

Was it Dave John's? And exactly where did Dave train? I never saw him at Bill's nor Gold's.

And I sort of recall a pretty bad incident the following year when CF competed in the A when it was held back east and started yelling at the judges while doing his solo routine during the prejudging or the finals. Has that incident ever been documented or simply overlooked?

We might have discussed this earlier but I gotta assume you knew Rob Johnson. Solo, and Wayne Bouvier from Bill's back then or were you there when Harry(?)  ran the place?

Might have discussed this earlier also but ..... Rory L. was a teenager back then who traied in a gym a few miles further east and Rob would drive out there to get a haircut from Rory in back of the gym. The gym was located at the very eastern edge of the LA basin before it turned into the desert wasteland. Do you recall the name of that gym and who owned it? And did you know Rory back then?

From what I remember Tony Pearson won the America that year. I think that was also the same year that CF pulled down his trunks and mooned the judges after his placement was announced. Pretty sure that was also the last year he ever competed.

The gym I think you're referring to that Rory trained at was Olympus Gym in Montebello (E.LA) Rory was there first and then I was there in the early 80's as well. I didn't know Rory as a teenager, we met in 1980 when I was 17.

And yes, I knew all of those guys, Wayne, Solo, Rob, Bill's son Phil and of course Harry (loved his weed).


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 08:53:00 AM
 8)

Not a lot of good pics of Ali on the web!   :'(

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/TEb_jQ0znrI/AAAAAAAAIQs/yPkWR6MTyH8/s1600/Ali-Malla-1.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/TEb_jj2-wCI/AAAAAAAAIQ0/eNlvnt1zuZ0/s1600/Ali-Malla-2.jpg)

(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/100/291609609_a4c9a74e34.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/TEb_j1UkJRI/AAAAAAAAIQ8/n2Pa-bC4nHk/s400/Ali-Malla-3.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1284914212/med_gallery_1_4_10607.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1284914212/med_gallery_1_4_13812.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 08:57:34 AM
 8)

(http://fitness.bf-1.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Hot-Legendary-Bodybuilder-Mohamed-Makkawy-008.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/mohamed-makkawy.jpg)

(http://www.ironguru.com/images/stories/makkaway-vince-training.jpg)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=897.0;attach=5084;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=897.0;attach=5083;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=897.0;attach=5701;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=897.0;attach=5702;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: ChevChelios on November 25, 2011, 09:00:16 AM
Holy macarona  :o Pure gold pics,gj wes  8)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 25, 2011, 09:00:36 AM
WES, What causes those frog, etc. images to appear? I never seem to have that problem.

Anyone in contact with Gary Leonard? Old friend years ago before the internet, lost contact. Last time in contact .... he had just returned from three days wandering through a forest trying to find civilization.

I just finished reading an article on a RON TEUFEL website that was somewhat critical and very interesting about competitive BB back when he was a main contender. Google RON TEUFEL.

I was backstage the year he lost to Tony Pearson and he was very upset and critical while talking to a TV camera crew. Has anyone ever seen that interview?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 09:01:34 AM
 8)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=897.0;attach=5703;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=897.0;attach=5704;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=897.0;attach=5705;image)

(http://fitness.bf-1.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Hot-Legendary-Bodybuilder-Mohamed-Makkawy-003.jpg)

(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1284918699/med_gallery_1_4_7338.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=243915.0;attach=284252;image)

(http://www.fitnes.lv/news/foto2/Samir_Bannout_1983.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 09:04:16 AM
WES, What causes those frog, etc. images to appear? I never seem to have that problem.

Anyone in contact with Gary Leonard? Old friend years ago before the internet, lost contact. Last time in contact .... he had just returned from three days wandering through a forest trying to find civilization.

I just finished reading an article on a RON TEUFEL website that was somewhat critical and very interesting about competitive BB back when he was a main contender. Google RON TEUFEL.

I was backstage the year he lost to Tony Pearson and he was very upset and critical while talking to a TV camera crew. Has anyone ever seen that interview?
Stunt,I guess Image Shack does that so people won`t steal their bandwidth.

Ron Tueful was pissed when Pearson won is an understatement....I bet Crownshep has the pics from Iron Age.

It was Tueful-Short,Manuel Perry-Tall,and Tony -Medium and overall  if I recall correctly.

I`ll try to find some pics.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 25, 2011, 09:07:25 AM
COACH, Thanks. I will respond with more details but gotta head out for the day to show that new bridge (Hoover Dam Bypass) to visitors.

You too, WES.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 09:09:26 AM
Meanwhile,here`s some shots of Tuef!

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=719.0;attach=3804;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=719.0;attach=3800;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=719.0;attach=3802;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=719.0;attach=3808;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=719.0;attach=3812;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=719.0;attach=3815;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=719.0;attach=3816;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=719.0;attach=3805;image)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 25, 2011, 10:27:07 AM
Some pics of Ron Teufel.Just look at his abs when he was still a teen.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 25, 2011, 10:31:27 AM

Ron Tueful was pissed when Pearson won is an understatement....I bet Crownshep has the pics from Iron Age.


Heres a few pics Tim.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 25, 2011, 10:33:51 AM
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Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 10:58:33 AM
Shep come through with some great pics!!

Thanks bud! :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 25, 2011, 11:22:35 AM
Whats interesting again Tim,is the fine line between who makes it and who doesn`t,because Ron beat Platz in the short class but was so dissapointed he didn`t bother trying out for the team for the World champs and with a different set of judges Platz beats Pearson and wins the world champs and goes on to be a legend of the sport.Then the next year Ron wins his class again at the america but gets beat at the World champs by Samir Bannout who goes on to be a Mr Olympia.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 25, 2011, 12:24:41 PM
That picture above at Manny Perry (I think) looking over at Persons legs is precious. Person was always able to get in phenomenal shape with an amazing small waist but could never get his calves up to par. I applaud him for making the most out of what he had.

Joe, Olympus Gym? Jeez I used to pass that place and always thought it was just a Spa type of place. I didn’t know it was a place that had serious guys in it.

I have copies of both that Health and Strength magazine with Kuzo Sudo in it and that Muscle Digest with Steve Romanelli.

Figo… c’mon dude I can’t go public with who the cannonball was.

Hey who’s this animal?




Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 25, 2011, 12:30:10 PM
That picture above at Manny Perry (I think) looking over at Persons legs is precious. Person was always able to get in phenomenal shape with an amazing small waist but could never get his calves up to par. I applaud him for making the most out of what he had.

Joe, Olympus Gym? Jeez I used to pass that place and always thought it was just a Spa type of place. I didn’t know it was a place that had serious guys in it.

I have copies of both that Health and Strength magazine with Kuzo Sudo in it and that Muscle Digest with Steve Romanelli.

Figo… c’mon dude I can’t go public with who the cannonball was.

Hey who’s this animal?




Looks like Joe Bucci ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 25, 2011, 12:42:33 PM
Looks like Joe Bucci ;D

Don't I wish I had his arms!  :-[


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: TrueGrit on November 25, 2011, 12:44:56 PM
Awesome

(http://goalorientedtraining.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/joe-bucci-arm-again.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 03:20:47 PM
Shep,this sport and it`s judging is just weird.....all subjective and like they say in American football........."on any given day" !  :(

Nice shot David.........what were you weighing there and who were you training with?

Just imagine if you never left Rochester.............yo u`d have none of these great stories for us to revel in!!  :)

True Grit...great shot of Bucci.......fucking nutty looking guns!!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 04:24:25 PM
(http://www.solid-gains.com/gallery/albums/danny-padilla/Danny-Padilla-7_sized.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 04:47:37 PM
Thought I`d post some more pics of Bucci...hope no yellow fucking frogs show up instead!  :(

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/26/images/Joe-Bucci%20(71).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/26/images/Joe-Bucci%20(66).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/26/images/Joe-Bucci%20(63).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/26/images/Joe-Bucci%20(6).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/26/images/Joe-Bucci%20(64).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/26/images/Joe-Bucci%20(65).jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 25, 2011, 04:55:29 PM
wes,stunt,hazbin,,great stuff here and max rep 2,,what really stands out to me is the quality of physiques these guys possess,, and some have very good legs just not out of proportion balloons like today,and i have not seen any negative comments about any old school pic like a thread on current bbers who 'are huge but bloated waist,gross gut,syntholed to death,mushy shape,marshmellow build.all these guys had great,crisp,detailed lines and dieted rippped but not dried out and then smoothed over next day.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 04:58:16 PM
wes,stunt,hazbin,,great stuff here and max rep 2,,what really stands out to me is the quality of physiques these guys possess,, and some have very good legs just not out of proportion balloons like today,and i have not seen any negative comments about any old school pic like a thread on current bbers who 'are huge but bloated waist,gross gut,syntholed to death,mushy shape,marshmellow build.all these guys had great,crisp,detailed lines and dieted rippped but not dried out and then smoothed over next day.
I hear ya` bro....quality over quantity any day.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 25, 2011, 07:07:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sDeIiCgqtU


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Cableguy on November 25, 2011, 07:45:08 PM
East coast (later west coast)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZoUCbIhEY-s/SuLxoBDnINI/AAAAAAAABnM/Bc_mUYbbJb4/s400/1962lc1.jpg)

Met Leroy several times...great guy...


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 25, 2011, 07:47:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sDeIiCgqtU

it doesn't even seem like the same sport as what we have today.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: War-Horse on November 25, 2011, 07:51:53 PM
I think this is the best thread on getbig. I hope it becomes a sticky on this site!  Its huge motivation to see guys before the GH and slin ruined them. These are acheivable physiques because of the seperation and details made them look bigger on stage than they were. Some of these guys in a shirt werent very impressive...but when the shirt came off they doubles in size!!

Everyday i go to the gym this is the look im going for...i think of details, seperation etc. Im hoping that alot of the kids will disregard gh15 advice to up the dose and take all these chemicals.  Whats wrong with a little dbol here and there to look like this!! Much prefered id say.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Cableguy on November 25, 2011, 07:58:11 PM
Betty Weider had some hot curves that for sure.

(http://www.ironguru.com/images/stories/betty-weider-vince-gironda.jpg)

When I met Betty at Joe's house back in the early 90's, she still had that bangin' hourglass figure...even though she was pretty old!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Cableguy on November 25, 2011, 08:22:07 PM
(http://i1.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/a4/f5/2d07_1_sbl.JPG)

Damn, who is it ? Strong build ! Thanks in advance

Wow, Dr. C.F. Smith...great build!

This thread is bringing back so many memories. I read about a lot of these guys in the mags when I was a teenager. A lot of them were featured in Muscle Training Illustrated, Dan Lurie's mag. Dan was Joe's "nemesis", that's why you never saw too many of these guys in the Weider mags. A lot of these "obscure" guys had such great physiques...



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Howard on November 25, 2011, 08:38:38 PM
it's a travesty what's happened to bodybuilding under Chick's watch.
Bob Chick and his ilk actually help it from going totally "off the cliff", believe it or not.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Howard on November 25, 2011, 08:42:51 PM
One thing I notice in a lot of the arnold photos is that he always seems to have everyone laughing.  He is doing funny stuff in the photos as well.  Seems like he would have been a very charismatic and fun individual to have known back  in the day.
It was more then just Arnold who had charisma and fun back then.
Bodybuilding and gym members were a much closer knit group back then and we had more fun.
Most guys today are too paranoid and obssessed with drugs.
Sure every top guy juiced on basic stuff back then, but it was pretty mild compared to now.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Cableguy on November 25, 2011, 08:45:40 PM
it doesn't even seem like the same sport as what we have today.

No shit...WTF happened...


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Howard on November 25, 2011, 08:47:35 PM
Mike Arvilla is friends with the Vranicar's if i remember correct.
Marty Varanicar is around my age ( mid 50's?) and competed in  contest in FL a couple years ago and looked 95% as good as he did in his heyday. UNreal!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Mjolnir on November 25, 2011, 08:49:29 PM
Can someone post a typical cycle from back then?  In the steroid forum if you want, but it would be nice to hear from the guys who were there and know what went into those physiques.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 25, 2011, 09:44:49 PM
No shit...WTF happened...

if the IFBB started rewarding the classic look and started penalizing the big guts and bloat; there would be no need for drug testing. all the crazy shit would be discontinued and guys would go back to hard work and diet, resulting in real looking muscle.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 26, 2011, 12:08:41 AM
if the IFBB started rewarding the classic look and started penalizing the big guts and bloat; there would be no need for drug testing. all the crazy shit would be discontinued and guys would go back to hard work and diet, resulting in real looking muscle.
Amen


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 26, 2011, 12:15:07 AM
it doesn't even seem like the same sport as what we have today.
Sad yeah  :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 26, 2011, 12:28:43 AM
my impersonation of a 70's bodybuilder. ( ya, i'm old now and gotta relive the good old days. this was me in 1990)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Mjolnir on November 26, 2011, 12:44:36 AM
You look fantastic.  That was right before things got mental in the world of BB.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 26, 2011, 01:22:27 AM
Looking great hazbin. I really wish you'd have chosen a more positive screen-name though. You seem more positive than the name implies. Where in Canada are you from? I had some room-mates that were from Kitchner Ontario when I was training with Samir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sDeIiCgqtU

Anyone know who the first guy was?  Kind of has a physique like Mendenhall.

Wes that botton picture you posted of Bucci… unreal pec striations.


Nice shot David.........what were you weighing there and who were you training with?


I was weighing about 185 Wes. It was taken 9 months after I stopped training with Samir and before I hooked up with Rory. I was drug free during that entire 9 months, training alone and following some of Gironda’s old routines with the diet Franco recommended in Winning Bodybuilding. I had done some extra work and decided to get a portfolio done so the last 6 weeks I was using Gironda’s full body circuit 5 times through 5 days a week. I gave up some muscle but it worked for what I was trying to do. Well except for the fact that the portfolio never got me any work.  



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 26, 2011, 03:19:42 AM
Max,the first guy was Steven Reiter,usually competed in the lightheavies,i can`t think of any of the under 200lbs guys nowadays who look as good as he did.And as the video moved on towards the end,that was the teen class with Victor Terra,James deMelo,Franco Santoriello and Vinny Conzo,you just don`t get teens that look like that anymore.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 26, 2011, 05:41:42 AM
my impersonation of a 70's bodybuilder. ( ya, i'm old now and gotta relive the good old days. this was me in 1990)
Great fucking shot Haz!

Good stuff David.

Shep,those names (teens) bring back a lot of memories.............lot s of great teens back then,hardly any today.......wonder why ???


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 26, 2011, 05:50:10 AM
Just watched that 80`s video............Reiter looks insanely thick and striated...looks like he could have gone on to be a pro for sure.

Never realized Terra was that short.

Lots of striations on these guys,(no longer seen today),and great posing routines,(no longer seen these days).  :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: TrueGrit on November 26, 2011, 05:55:17 AM
if the IFBB started rewarding the classic look and started penalizing the big guts and bloat; there would be no need for drug testing. all the crazy shit would be discontinued and guys would go back to hard work and diet, resulting in real looking muscle.

Absolutely. They could also go back to the old fashioned trunks as well. No more pink or turquoise g-strings and suggestive posing.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Montague on November 26, 2011, 06:03:44 AM
Thought I`d post some more pics of Bucci...hope no yellow fucking frogs show up instead!  :(


www.photobucket.com


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 26, 2011, 06:59:58 AM

www.photobucket.com
Thanks Monty......I`m just to lazy to save the pics and upload them.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: che on November 26, 2011, 07:13:56 AM
if the IFBB started rewarding the classic look and started penalizing the big guts and bloat; there would be no need for drug testing. all the crazy shit would be discontinued and guys would go back to hard work and diet, resulting in real looking muscle.

That's not going to happen Hazbin, when you hear  kids  nowadays saying , Branch Warren looks awesome , 80's bodybuilders look like swimmers, Brian Buchanan waist was too small, Chris Cormier physique was boring ..........etc  , you know bodybuilding is fucked.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 26, 2011, 07:16:58 AM
That's not going to happen Hazbin, when you hear  kids  nowadays saying , Branch Warren looks awesome , 80's bodybuilders look like swimmers, Brian Buchanan waist was too small, Chris Cormier physique was boring ..........etc  , you know bodybuilding is fucked.
Probably true Che.....unfortunately.  :(

Getting into the sport these days, a person would tend to think that weighing 280 with a huge gut, and hardly being able to walk, is what bodybuilding is all about........fucking shame!!


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: TrueGrit on November 26, 2011, 07:17:59 AM
That's not going to happen Hazbin, when you hear  kids  nowadays saying , Branch Warren looks awesome , 80's bodybuilders look like swimmers, Brian Buchanan waist was too small, Chris Cormier physique was boring ..........etc  , you know bodybuilding is fucked.

Sad but true.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: che on November 26, 2011, 07:19:05 AM
Probably true Che.....unfortunately.  :(

Getting into the sport these days, a person would tend to think that weighing 280 with a huge gut, and hardly being able to walk, is what bodybuilding is all about........fucking shame!!

Sad indeed.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 26, 2011, 07:58:51 AM
We're starting to sound like the guys on ironage!

Does this mean I'm an old fart now?

Great thread guys


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 26, 2011, 08:13:01 AM
We're starting to sound like the guys on ironage!

Does this mean I'm an old fart now?

Great thread guys
We`re all bitter old bastards !  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 26, 2011, 09:48:10 AM
We`re all bitter old bastards !  ;D
not all of us!

Bitter, yes


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 26, 2011, 09:54:02 AM
not all of us!

Bitter, yes
OK,I`ll handle the old part!  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 26, 2011, 11:22:15 AM

We're starting to sound like the guys on ironage!


No... we'd have to launch into a diatribe about the evils of Performance Enhancing Drugs and how disappointed we are that anyone from the Iron Age Era is now in shape because they must be "doing things" that are unhealthy.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 26, 2011, 11:45:42 AM
Back in the day.....1983-84.


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/JoeProfile-1.jpg)


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/jsm902.jpg)

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/jsm904-1.jpg)




Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Cableguy on November 26, 2011, 11:57:41 AM
Back in the day.....1983-84.


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/JoeProfile-1.jpg)


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/jsm902.jpg)

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/jsm904-1.jpg)






Great aesthetic physique, Joe. Kind of reminds me of Richard Baldwin's.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 26, 2011, 02:56:00 PM
Great pics Joe!!

Who else is in your class there during the posedown or comparisons?

Those guys look familiar.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 26, 2011, 03:01:57 PM
No... we'd have to launch into a diatribe about the evils of Performance Enhancing Drugs and how disappointed we are that anyone from the Iron Age Era is now in shape because they must be "doing things" that are unhealthy.
More like a 'litany of woe' !! LOL  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 26, 2011, 03:34:43 PM
Great pics Joe!!

Who else is in your class there during the posedown or comparisons?

Those guys look familiar.

In the contest pic I think the dude on the right is Lionel Richie.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 26, 2011, 03:35:55 PM
In the contest pic I think the dude on the right is Lionel Richie.
THAT`S why he looks so familiar!!  LOL  ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 26, 2011, 05:43:24 PM
COACH, Where was that picture taken? The one with the beach cove and the apartment building in  the background.

ANd how many titles did you win or come close to winning?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 26, 2011, 05:57:27 PM
Great pics Joe!!

Who else is in your class there during the posedown or comparisons?

Those guys look familiar.

Joe looks awesome but he didn’t have the standard issue Rory haircut. Why not Joe?


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: newmom on November 26, 2011, 05:58:40 PM
Great Pics Joe, thanks for sharing


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 26, 2011, 06:04:52 PM
Here's the "Rory" cut David ;D



(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/jsm.jpg)


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/jsm905.jpg)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Schmoff on November 26, 2011, 06:09:32 PM
Here's the "Rory" David ;D



(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/jsm.jpg)


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/jsm905.jpg)

brutal gyno

 :D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 26, 2011, 06:12:30 PM
brutal gyno

 :D

 :(


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: deadz on November 26, 2011, 08:50:36 PM
My "Mecca" is any gym I train in. LOL at hero worship.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Natural_O on November 26, 2011, 09:02:38 PM
What contest was that video clip from? I'm guessing the '83 NPC USA.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Howard on November 26, 2011, 09:11:51 PM
if the IFBB started rewarding the classic look and started penalizing the big guts and bloat; there would be no need for drug testing. all the crazy shit would be discontinued and guys would go back to hard work and diet, resulting in real looking muscle.
BINGO! Jim Manion actually tried to enforce this with the now infamous "belly ban " letter he wrote to all NPC officials a few years ago.
I hear the same ( the judges told me to get bigger to win" from various pros over the year at seminars.
Jay was told at 240 he would never win a big show and Ronnie was told to get a lot bigger when he turned pro, etc.

For whatever reason the IFBB judges expect size and reward the big freaky guys with the biggest titles in most years...go figure?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 26, 2011, 11:24:53 PM
Max rep


Bump for grimkos cycle


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 26, 2011, 11:26:11 PM
Coach

Great pics!



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 26, 2011, 11:30:45 PM
Joe looks good with the porn star stash  :D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 27, 2011, 01:27:40 AM
Max rep


Bump for grimkos cycle

Pete told me the basics of it, i almost shit!  maybe i coulda been mr. O :o


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 27, 2011, 01:29:22 AM
you're not gonna see this pose on an IFBB stage any time soon!!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on November 27, 2011, 01:40:58 AM
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/gallery/motiv-4/sn399.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 27, 2011, 01:44:12 AM

Max rep

Bump for grimkos cycle

He loved Primabolin Acetate and Anavar. He quoted HUGE dosages a day to the point that it would be 4 times what heavy using pros do in a week. I don't think it was true because Pete liked to shock people. He could not have injected that much and orals would have completely shut down his liver. No doubt his dosages where high but who knows what to believe.

    


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 27, 2011, 02:00:58 AM
He loved Primabolin Acetate and Anavar. He quoted HUGE dosages a day to the point that it would be 4 times what heavy using pros do in a week. I don't think it was true because Pete liked to shock people. He could not have injected that much and orals would have completely shut down his liver. No doubt his dosages where high but who knows what to believe.

    


the one thing he told me that i will say, is - that going off is the biggest mistake bodybuilders make. he says your organs learn how to deal with escalating doses, and when you go off they lose their tolerance. then guys try to shock their system with higher than ever doses. very toxic.

i thought about it, and every street drug addict that i know that died, (many), od'd after going to a treatment center. they would clean out for a number of weeks, then go straight back to the amount of drug they were previously used to. their systems would no longer be able to handle the amount that they had used pre-detox, and they die.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 27, 2011, 02:30:39 AM
Thanks maxrep,
from what I've heard he was a "showman" and big personality, so I suppose shocking with massive doses, while all the other guys downplayed the importance of drugs, was his thing..

Haz,
 that does make sense, the going off, and adaptation in tolerance, did he mention similar usage to you, as he did to max rep, what did you make of it?



the one thing he told me that i will say, is - that going off is the biggest mistake bodybuilders make. he says your organs learn how to deal with escalating doses, and when you go off they lose their tolerance. then guys try to shock their system with higher than ever doses. very toxic.

i thought about it, and every street drug addict that i know that died, (many), od'd after going to a treatment center. they would clean out for a number of weeks, then go straight back to the amount of drug they were previously used to. their systems would no longer be able to handle the amount that they had used pre-detox, and they die.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 02:47:58 AM
you're not gonna see this pose on an IFBB stage any time soon!!!
GEEZUS......you guys look friggin` great!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 27, 2011, 08:32:24 AM
you're not gonna see this pose on an IFBB stage any time soon!!!

Great shot. I know I have a bigger picture than that and yes you're right, you won't see that anytime soon.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 08:41:11 AM
 8)

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(http://www.rbimba.lt/faktai/gallery/86x-3.jpg)

(http://primux.com/BB/PJG/PJG-1.jpg)

(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2006/05/29/187553/gallerypic/272381.JPG)

(http://www.norrischiropractic.com/questions/who/athletes/weightlifter.gif)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 08:51:51 AM
 8)

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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/SOEkJaSgBII/AAAAAAAAAcI/nVJwagaXeXU/s400/mohamed-benaziza-1.jpg)

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(http://www.naturalchampion.net/i/James1_1.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingforums.com.au/attachments/bodybuilding-news/70d1239279048-ifbb-pros-when-they-were-young-bobchick1983.jpg)

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x184/jloenneke/comerf03.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-j80bHiXDTs/TZD9SNmXjXI/AAAAAAAAAzk/iH1uXzsew-c/christian_gomba.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 09:02:55 AM
 8)

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(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson331_s.jpg)

(http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/johnnybravo_album/york_healthshoes.gif)

(http://www.jimenezvelosport.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/lee-labrada1.jpg)

(http://www.permanentpaincure.com/images/ming_bodybuilder.jpg)

(http://www.rbimba.lt/faktai/gallery/91-4.jpg)

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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 09:13:03 AM
 8)

(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/images/Posing%20Photos/posing001.jpg)

(http://www.blondesearch.ru/img/f5/f5a/IFBB_Pro_Bodybuilder_Danny_Padilla_posing_in_gym.jpg)

(http://www.americanwrestlingfederation.com/CHERshow.jpg)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/gallery/male/peters5.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=192723.0;attach=223857;image)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/TDHe91q9Z7I/AAAAAAAAIF4/NIqVGSuXmf4/s1600/Benny-Podda.jpg)

(http://www.tmuscle.com/img/photos/2009/09-201-interview/05.jpg)



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 27, 2011, 09:20:45 AM
nice run there wes,,,james demelo sick calves and was going places mr la and bob paris look alike build/face then got spirtitual and bagged drugs,darren lanigan huge arms could have went far as well,,'haitian striation'jean paul,,,,ming chew had great build dropped off too,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: che on November 27, 2011, 09:25:26 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/TE14_LeUL3I/AAAAAAAAIak/PM0-WWg6ixM/s400/Ahmet-Enunlu-2.jpg)

(http://www.bodyforumtr.com/images/sb273.jpg)

(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/remembering/images/photo9_76.jpg)

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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 09:28:49 AM
nice run there wes,,,james demelo sick calves and was going places mr la and bob paris look alike build/face then got spirtitual and bagged drugs,darren lanigan huge arms could have went far as well,,'haitian striation'jean paul,,,,ming chew had great build dropped off too,,,
Thanks bro,all those guys were big inspirations for me.

Lannigan had some freakin` crazy guns!!

Nice shots of Enunlu Che`.....guy was ahead of his time as far as muscularity and muscle density was concerned.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 27, 2011, 09:32:08 AM
Thanks bro,all those guys were big inspirations for me.

Lannigan had some reakin` crazy guns!!

Nice shots of Enunlu Che`.....guy was ahead of his time as far as muscularity and muscle density was concerned.
comerford was the lee priest of that time,,huge arms and was doing well in ifbb then went to wbf and killed it,,,he was an aau guy i think with v taylor before npc,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 27, 2011, 10:33:28 AM
In the shot below Ahmet Enunlu,the line up,can you spot the future mr Olympia winner.?
And something happened to Vince Commerford on the tour in England in 1990 that may have ended his career in the IFBB.So i was told.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Montague on November 27, 2011, 10:34:55 AM
(http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/johnnybravo_album/york_healthshoes.gif)


That looks like something in funk51's closet!!
His home gym is littered with all sorts of neat "York originals" like that.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Straw Man on November 27, 2011, 11:53:21 AM
In the shot below Ahmet Enunlu,the line up,can you spot the future mr Olympia winner.?
And something happened to Vince Commerford on the tour in England in 1990 that may have ended his career in the IFBB.So i was told.

#32


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 27, 2011, 11:56:01 AM
#32


He was only 19 at the time as well.when the lebanese lion was a lion cub.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 12:11:19 PM

He was only 19 at the time as well.when the lebanese lion was a lion cub.
I didn`t even recognize Samir, but saw Birdsong and the second guy from the left, but I can`t remember his name.  :(


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 12:12:16 PM
One of my favorite shots of all time.......really old photo......way ahead of his time.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=443643;image)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 27, 2011, 12:13:48 PM
One of my favorite shots of all time.......really old photo......way ahead of his time.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=443643;image)

Waaaaay ahead of his time.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 12:15:01 PM
Waaaaay ahead of his time.
Yup,that pic is probably circa 1970-72 or less.

Incredible arm development,abs,and off the hook vascularity,the likes of which were unseen at the time.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 27, 2011, 12:18:31 PM
Yup,that pic is probably circa 1970-72 or less.

Incredible arm development,abs,and off the hook vascularity,the likes of which were unseen at the time.

That was back when bodybuilders actually trained. Training during that time they could actually crossover to athletics. Lots of free weight and few machines created powerful physiques.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Big N on November 27, 2011, 12:19:16 PM
8)

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(http://www.rbimba.lt/faktai/gallery/86x-3.jpg)

(http://primux.com/BB/PJG/PJG-1.jpg)

(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2006/05/29/187553/gallerypic/272381.JPG)

(http://www.norrischiropractic.com/questions/who/athletes/weightlifter.gif)

Sick biceps peak  :o


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 12:22:55 PM
That was back when bodybuilders actually trained. Training during that time they could actually crossover to athletics. Lots of free weight and few machines created powerful physiques.
Yes indeed my friend.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 12:23:49 PM
Sick biceps peak  :o
Freaky peaks........claimed to be all natural.  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Big N on November 27, 2011, 12:29:15 PM
Freaky peaks........claimed to be all natural.  ;D

lol just like Gustavo Badell, 100% natural


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 12:37:19 PM
lol just like Gustavo Badell, 100% natural
LOL  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 27, 2011, 12:42:16 PM
Sick biceps peak  :o

Jean-Paul used to train at World gym in San Diego.  Pretty strong dude pound for pound.  I saw him in 2005/06 squatting 405 for ten ass-to-grass reps.  He also performed lying leg curls with the entire rack for 10-12 reps.  Still looked great for his age, albeit with a little less size that in the pics.   Not 100% sure, but I would tend to believe he was natural, or perhaps a light user during his competitive days.    


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 27, 2011, 12:53:34 PM
Great shot. I know I have a bigger picture than that and yes you're right, you won't see that anytime soon.

haha, i laughed after i posted it, posturing to make me look better, lol.   but i didn't know how to put them the same size. (lucky i can post pics with my lack of computer savvy)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 27, 2011, 12:58:42 PM

He was only 19 at the time as well.when the lebanese lion was a lion cub.

one mag was claiming that he was 17 in this Universe competition. placed 6th i think??


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on November 27, 2011, 01:35:48 PM
8)

(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/images/Posing%20Photos/posing001.jpg)


The Man who hired me at Gold's Venice, Darin Lannaghan. Guy could have been an excellent pro. Rarely took much gear, crazy arms, nothing missing. Got busy with work/wife/kids etc.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 01:38:55 PM
Looked fucking great!!



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on November 27, 2011, 01:43:34 PM
Ya Wes, this cat would have been a winning IFBB Pro had he tried. Great response to small doses. Excellent structure. GREAT arms. Not a single thing missing.



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 01:48:51 PM
Ya Wes, this cat would have been a winning IFBB Pro had he tried. Great response to small doses. Excellent structure. GREAT arms. Not a single thing missing.


I hear ya` bro............always wondered why he never went any further.

Actually,he looks like his potential is unlimited.......I`ll look for more pics.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on November 27, 2011, 01:52:26 PM
Cool.   When he could have been turning pro and winning, he had a wife, one or two young kids and a full time job. Had he pushed all that to the back burner he would/could have been an IFBB star.

It's funny- I saw so many cats try for the IFBB "thing" when they had very little chance- but Darin had HUGE potential and decided to go another direction.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 01:59:39 PM
Cool.   When he could have been turning pro and winning, he had a wife, one or two young kids and a full time job. Had he pushed all that to the back burner he would/could have been an IFBB star.

It's funny- I saw so many cats try for the IFBB "thing" when they had very little chance- but Darin had HUGE potential and decided to go another direction.

That blows,but you gotta` give him props for doing the right thing....must have been a bitch mentally.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on November 27, 2011, 02:00:08 PM
DL and I are Friends on FB. I grabbed these two shots. I don't think he would mind.



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on November 27, 2011, 02:01:13 PM
That blows,but you gotta` give him props for doing the right thing....must have been a bitch mentally.

Agreed. He had already made plans for a family. Pro BB didn't fit in the schedule.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Montague on November 27, 2011, 02:03:01 PM
(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/imagesbyname/Darin_Lannaghan%20(6).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/imagesbyname/Darin_Lannaghan%20(12).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/imagesbyname/Darin_Lannaghan%20(19).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/imagesbyname/Darin_Lannaghan%20(16).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/images/Posing%20Photos/posing005.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 02:04:22 PM
Cool.......found a ton of pics of Darren.

(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/images/Posing%20Photos/posing005.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/imagesbyname/Darin_Lannaghan%20(18).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/imagesbyname/Darin_Lannaghan%20(10).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/imagesbyname/Darin_Lannaghan%20(1).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/imagesbyname/Darin_Lannaghan%20(11).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/imagesbyname/Darin_Lannaghan%20(13).jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/imagesbyname/Darin_Lannaghan%20(15).jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on November 27, 2011, 02:04:37 PM
Real nice shots Montaque.  Thanks for posting.  He would have absolutely been a winning IFBB Pro.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 02:07:39 PM
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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 02:08:27 PM
Thanx Monty.  :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on November 27, 2011, 02:09:33 PM
Big time Pro potential. I know what he took and it was absurdly minimal. He didn't even really eat like a fanatical BB.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 02:12:30 PM
Few more:

(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/976737450.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/imagesbyname/Darin_Lannaghan%20(5).jpg)

(http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/2f126b01a55f807e0bc800b9875443c551757f44.pjpg)

(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/712/Darin_Lannaghan_001.jpg)

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/25/102178564_3d39230535.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 02:13:16 PM
Big time Pro potential. I know what he took and it was absurdly minimal. He didn't even really eat like a fanatical BB.
Don`t you hate those kind of guys...........lucky bastards ?  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on November 27, 2011, 02:15:26 PM
 ;D Hell yes!  The B & W shot above shows his great arms and vascularity. I swear, he would go from "normal" looking to this in 10 weeks.  Crazy genetics.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 02:16:35 PM
;D Hell yes!  The B & W shot above shows his great arms and vascularity. I swear, he would go from "normal" looking to this in 10 weeks.  Crazy genetics.
Jeff King was like that too.............he would literally transform his physique in no time flat.  :(


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Montague on November 27, 2011, 02:19:35 PM
Real nice shots Montaque.  Thanks for posting.  He would have absolutely been a winning IFBB Pro.

Thanx Monty.  :)

You're welcome. Glad you liked them!


Big time Pro potential. I know what he took and it was absurdly minimal. He didn't even really eat like a fanatical BB.

I hate people like that. ;D
What was his training like?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on November 27, 2011, 02:19:57 PM
Jeff King was like that too.............he would literally transform his physique in no time flat.  :(

Never saw King other than contest time. Cool physique.  


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 02:22:46 PM
Never saw King other than contest time. Cool physique.  
Yeah,we trained at the same 2 gyms since he was a teenager.

Really one of the nicest guys you could meet,real laidback and always willing to help people out as long as it wasn`t during his workout


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Spicoli on November 27, 2011, 02:23:44 PM
Don`t you hate those kind of guys...........lucky bastards ?  ;D

They just look at the weights and they start growing. One of my old training partners did half the work I did and half the disipline but had genetics that beat any GH15 cycle. Dude never touched a AAS,slin or HGH but looked like he lived in it. He used to take 6 months off and then be back in top shape in 8 weeks. Truely lucky bastards.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 02:24:57 PM
Here`s a rarely seen pic of King that a buddy of mine took years ago at central City Gym in Springfield Mass.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on November 27, 2011, 02:25:26 PM
You're welcome. Glad you liked them!


I hate people like that. ;D
What was his training like?

I trained with him several times. If I remember- he liked moderate weight, continuous tension stuff. Never locked any reps out. Good control. Above average volume. Nothing remarkable.  Darin was strong- Incline press 315 sets of 6-8.  High bar close stance squats 405 x 10-12 no locking out.

Again; he was in the top-5 of all the Gold's Venice cats I ever saw as far as "responding"  Only Mike Christian comes to mind as responding faster to less. Christian's transformations were CRAZY. Darin's were close.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 02:28:25 PM
They just look at the weights and they start growing. One of my old training partners did half the work I did and half the disipline but had genetics that beat any GH15 cycle. Dude never touched a AAS,slin or HGH but looked like he lived in it. He used to take 6 months off and then be back in top shape in 8 weeks. Truely lucky bastards.
I knew this black dude named Willie.........(knew him for years but never asked him his last name :D  ).............this fucking guy trained like a pansy and ate garbage.........had about 18" arms all the time,29-30 inch waist,and could bench 315 for reps anytime he wanted to but never went over 225 in his "workouts".

I put workouts in quotation marks because as an example,he would do 20 pound cable curls while talking to some broad and his arms were insane looking.


He never did any drugs other than smoke some herb before his workout!  :)
:(


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 02:34:49 PM
They just look at the weights and they start growing. One of my old training partners did half the work I did and half the disipline but had genetics that beat any GH15 cycle. Dude never touched a AAS,slin or HGH but looked like he lived in it. He used to take 6 months off and then be back in top shape in 8 weeks. Truely lucky bastards.
Seen it a million times,I hate that shit......it`s just not fair!!  LOL  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Montague on November 27, 2011, 02:36:02 PM
he liked moderate weight, continuous tension stuff. Never locked any reps out. Good control. Above average volume.


Thanks!!
I find that interesting, and I believe there's a lot to be said for that style of training.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 27, 2011, 03:53:09 PM
I  met Darin while he was working at Gold's and could not believe how great his arms were. Didn't he have a brother who  was also damn impressive?

WES, I have  not met 'millions' who could smell the iron in the air and get results but in my lifetime I've had 3 good friends who had never lifted  weighs but could give Jeff or Darin good competition  after a few short months in the gym.

In fact B. Grant and I were giving a bodybuilding seminar on one of the MC bases and as we were leaving one of the Marines asked us if it was possible for him to enter a BB contest within 6 weeks without embarrassing himself.

He took off his shirt and we immediately said. "Hell yea! How many years hane you been training?".

His answer was, "Three months, sir".

So we went back inside and showed him what to do (no roids) and 6 weeks  later he won the state title, got out of the corps, moved to Venice and  became the 'Mayor' of Gold's Gym in SM with a bodybuilding role in The Incredible Hulk, a photo shoot with the Play-girls at Hefner's mansion (one shot was published), and a decent poster that made him $300 and the photographer over half a million (so I have been told).

Has there ever been a study conducted why some guys like this and Darin and King and very few others can add muscle growth simply by breathing the air within a hard core gym?

The other twe were a doctor who loved to surf  and a factory worker who lifted heavy thing things all day while he was still in high school.

Some of you older Gold's guys probably know the 3 I'm spoeaking about


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 04:26:48 PM
There`s a lot of regular guys I`ve seen over the years,who if they trained,could be great bodybuilders but simply aren`t interested in it at all.

Genetics rule!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 27, 2011, 04:29:39 PM
I  met Darin while he was working at Gold's and could not believe how great his arms were. Didn't he have a brother who  was also damn impressive?

WES, I have  not met 'millions' who could smell the iron in the air and get results but in my lifetime I've had 3 good friends who had never lifted  weighs but could give Jeff or Darin good competition  after a few short months in the gym.

In fact B. Grant and I were giving a bodybuilding seminar on one of the MC bases and as we were leaving one of the Marines asked us if it was possible for him to enter a BB contest within 6 weeks without embarrassing himself.

He took off his shirt and we immediately said. "Hell yea! How many years hane you been training?".

His answer was, "Three months, sir".

So we went back inside and showed him what to do (no roids) and 6 weeks  later he won the state title, got out of the corps, moved to Venice and  became the 'Mayor' of Gold's Gym in SM with a bodybuilding role in The Incredible Hulk, a photo shoot with the Play-girls at Hefner's mansion (one shot was published), and a decent poster that made him $300 and the photographer over half a million (so I have been told).

Has there ever been a study conducted why some guys like this and Darin and King and very few others can add muscle growth simply by breathing the air within a hard core gym?

The other twe were a doctor who loved to surf  and a factory worker who lifted heavy thing things all day while he was still in high school.

Some of you older Gold's guys probably know the 3 I'm spoeaking about
Stunt,I was exaggerating slightly with the millions thing!  ;D

My guess on the 3 guys would be:
Craig Whitehead
Sergio Oliva
Ernie Santiago

I know I`m wrong but had to throw something out there.  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 27, 2011, 07:19:39 PM
WES, Thanks! I completely understood your exaggeration and I gotta thank you for your three guesses with an additional comment (as per usual) about each of them:

I don't believe I ever met Dr Craig Whitehead (USAF) but possibly could have through Bill Starr or Larry Pacifico. There is an interesting story there which a more knowledgeable GetBigger may be able to talk about.

Sergio ... I met Sergio shortly after he 'deserted ship' (early 60's) and then on numerous occasions throughout his career. We had many talks and he was a great fan of Keiths.

Interesting Sergio stories also but the last time I saw him is whem Jeff Everson invited myself and Keith to assist Serg when he was a guest in Jeff's Planet Muscle booth at the Arnold Expo. (More on that later).

And it's interesting that you mentiomed Ernie (USMC). Many years ago I trained another Marine who came out of the blue and won a few BB events so Ernie called me to ask if I'd work with him and I'm proud to say that he went on to win two national titles within the same year. I recall those being the Jr USA and the Jr Nationals.

But each of the above had to work exceptionally hard to make it possible. The three individuals I referred to earlier would "double in muscular size" the moment they
'smelt' the iron.

That's an exaggeration of course but I think you get the picture.

SPICOLI, Thanks for the mem ory jolt regarding the very rare individuals who make muscle gains easily'

Slightly more to follow.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Spicoli on November 27, 2011, 11:25:08 PM
I knew this black dude named Willie.........(knew him for years but never asked him his last name :D  ).............this fucking guy trained like a pansy and ate garbage.........had about 18" arms all the time,29-30 inch waist,and could bench 315 for reps anytime he wanted to but never went over 225 in his "workouts".

I put workouts in quotation marks because as an example,he would do 20 pound cable curls while talking to some broad and his arms were insane looking.


He never did any drugs other than smoke some herb before his workout!  :)
:(


Hahaha same with this guy too. He said it gave him an insane mind muscle connection and helped him isolate each muscle he was training to the extreme. He owns a coffeeshop in the red light district so he was always smoking  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 28, 2011, 02:29:45 AM
Just added on YT; Ric Drasin and his buddies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoKVF3VwoeQ


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Spicoli on November 28, 2011, 02:39:48 AM
WES, Thanks! I completely understood your exaggeration and I gotta thank you for your three guesses with an additional comment (as per usual) about each of them:

I don't believe I ever met Dr Craig Whitehead (USAF) but possibly could have through Bill Starr or Larry Pacifico. There is an interesting story there which a more knowledgeable GetBigger may be able to talk about.

Sergio ... I met Sergio shortly after he 'deserted ship' (early 60's) and then on numerous occasions throughout his career. We had many talks and he was a great fan of Keiths.

Interesting Sergio stories also but the last time I saw him is whem Jeff Everson invited myself and Keith to assist Serg when he was a guest in Jeff's Planet Muscle booth at the Arnold Expo. (More on that later).

And it's interesting that you mentiomed Ernie (USMC). Many years ago I trained another Marine who came out of the blue and won a few BB events so Ernie called me to ask if I'd work with him and I'm proud to say that he went on to win two national titles within the same year. I recall those being the Jr USA and the Jr Nationals.

But each of the above had to work exceptionally hard to make it possible. The three individuals I referred to earlier would "double in muscular size" the moment they
'smelt' the iron.

That's an exaggeration of course but I think you get the picture.

SPICOLI, Thanks for the mem ory jolt regarding the very rare individuals who make muscle gains easily'

Slightly more to follow.

Looking forward to the next installment stuntmovie. Ahhh the good old days.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 28, 2011, 03:34:12 AM
I didn`t even recognize Samir, but saw Birdsong and the second guy from the left, but I can`t remember his name.  :(

Are you thinking of Serge Jacobs or Janko Rudman.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 28, 2011, 03:38:58 AM
Are you thinking of Serge Jacobs or Janko Rudman.
you guys have an immense knowledge and memory


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 28, 2011, 03:41:37 AM
one mag was claiming that he was 17 in this Universe competition. placed 6th i think??

According to muscle memory his dob is nov 7th 1955 so in the 1974 Universe he would have been 19,but more likely still 18 because i think the contest was a month or so before his 19th birthday.He placed 7th at that show


Medium
1 Ahmet Enünlü   (Turkey)
 2 Bob Birdsong   (United States)
 3 Leon Cesarion   (France)
 4 Janko Rudman   (Sweden)
  5 Serge Jacobs   (Belgium)
  6D Bailey   (Wales)
 7 Samir Bannout   (Lebanon)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 28, 2011, 03:44:36 AM
you guys have an immense knowledge and memory

From the muscle/builder mags from the 70s i can remember names and pics and what month they appeared in,but i can`t remember anything from a week ago. ;D ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 28, 2011, 03:51:58 AM
From the muscle/builder mags from the 70s i can remember names and pics and what month they appeared in,but i can`t remember anything from a week ago. ;D ;D
;D

Funny what sticks, and what doesnt


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 28, 2011, 08:14:22 AM
Are you thinking of Serge Jacobs or Janko Rudman.
Jacobs.....thanks Shep,I had to go back and look at the pic again!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 28, 2011, 08:15:12 AM
From the muscle/builder mags from the 70s i can remember names and pics and what month they appeared in,but i can`t remember anything from a week ago. ;D ;D
No shit huh ?  LOL  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: animal1991 on November 28, 2011, 09:16:37 AM
Awesome thread!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 28, 2011, 10:18:03 AM
From the muscle/builder mags from the 70s i can remember names and pics and what month they appeared in,but i can`t remember anything from a week ago. ;D ;D

same here, freaks people out.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 28, 2011, 11:16:00 AM
Little side comment here:

I've been meaning to say this for some time now but it's such a minor thing that I tend to forget......

This might be controversial to some of you GetBigger's tender ears but it's a fact worth fighting over....

There were numerous guys in Northern California back in the days of Reeves who were just as good as Reeves (and in a couple of cases that I am aware of ... even better).

But Steve's big advantage is or was that he was never too "SHY" to stand in front of a camera semi-naked (and in one case completely naked).

Back in those good old days you hardly ever saw a person wearing a pair of Speedos and it would be somewhat rare to even see a group of kids posing before a camera lens hitting muscle shots.

It  may seem stupid now-a-days but back then it was a way more modest time. Some might even call it the end of the VIctorian period.

But Reeves was one of quite a few great bods who was 'brave enough' to strip down and show what real muscle looked like, while others who were as good as (or even better) ... were simply too damn shy or too damn modest to appear shirtless before a camera.... and especially in front of a camera that was shooting a photo for a magazine that was perceived as somewhat questionable (at that time) .

I said it before and I gotta say it again ...... It was a completely different world back then.....  and ten years from now it will be completely different once again.



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 28, 2011, 11:22:51 AM
Jeff King was like that too.............he would literally transform his physique in no time flat.  :(

Tell us more on that Wes.

Danny Padilla as well. He would literally transform from a Monday to a Thursday. I don't think Danny ever trained 12 weeks for a competition. Most years it was 6 to 8 weeks. The few times he did train for 12 weeks were the 1981 Olympia and the 1990 NOC/Niagra Falls/Grad Prix.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 28, 2011, 12:08:15 PM
Tell us more on that Wes.

Danny Padilla as well. He would literally transform from a Monday to a Thursday. I don't think Danny ever trained 12 weeks for a competition. Most years it was 6 to 8 weeks. The few times he did train for 12 weeks were the 1981 Olympia and the 1990 NOC/Niagra Falls/Grad Prix.
Well,for an example,I was out running the streets and hitting the bottle pretty hard so I hadn`t seen the inside of a gym in almost 7 years at the time.............I hooked up with a young kid who was a friend of my cousins who just started to train,as no one else seemed to want to train with me and actually shunned me...I was pissed and vowed to train my ass off once again.

Looking back,the way I looked at the time,I would not have shunned me,I would have ran far far away from me!!  LOL  ;D

Anyway,I looked like a dead man who forgot to lay down.

Back to King,I hadn`t seen him in eons and he walks in one day with Ed Jubinville and Bob Gruskin and they were gonna` take some pics for an article or something,as King was gonna` start prepping for the 87' NABBA Mr. Universe.

I heard them tell the gym owner that Jeff weighed 305 pounds....he looked huge,but very very solid at this weight.

In walks the kid I`m just starting to train with and he yells out,"Who`s that fat fuck ??

I almost shit my pants...I think King heard  him but said nothing.....it was hilarious at the time. ;D

In a fast 3 months/12-13 weeks, King was ripped to shreds,hit England like a storm and won the Mr. Universe.

In that 3 months time,he literally looked shrinkwrapped and grainy as all hell.

I don`t know what he weighed for the show but he probably lost around 50 pounds or more easily..............the only cardio I ever saw him do was short rides on a stationary bike.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 28, 2011, 12:10:24 PM
Another time after laying off a while,King just blew back up to and beyond his previous size.

The guy knew how to diet and train.....of course he used drugs also, but he was a dedicated animal in the gym.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: Thespritz0 on November 28, 2011, 12:45:03 PM
Watching this pictures give me mixed feelings!
Infact this pictures remind me how much I love bodybuilding the way was back then ,but at the same time remind me how much I hate bodybuiding how became today!  :(
FOR GOD SAKE! HOW DID WE GO FROM SERGE NUBRET TO BRANCH WARREN??? >:(
^^
Easily, the combination of insulin and GH.  Insulin should NEVER have entered the arena, PERIOD!!!!!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 28, 2011, 05:24:45 PM
I ain't privy to the secret ingredients but many years ago we invited Pete to guest pose at one of our events and three days prior to the contest he looked "not too good" ,but he simply said, "Lock me up in the hotel room for three days and don't let me out and I won't be a disappointment.

And three days later we let him out and  ..... Yep, he wern't no disappointment and he
brought the house down!

Could have been something in that hotel room water.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on November 29, 2011, 12:29:18 AM
I ain't privy to the secret ingredients but many years ago we invited Pete to guest pose at one of our events and three days prior to the contest he looked "not too good" ,but he simply said, "Lock me up in the hotel room for three days and don't let me out and I won't be a disappointment.

And three days later we let him out and  ..... Yep, he wern't no disappointment and he
brought the house down!

Could have been something in that hotel room water.

That was Pete... one time a buddy of mine ran into him in the supermarket. Pete had a cart filled with bananas. It was a Tuesday. He said I have to put on 25 pounds for a guest posing exhibition on Saturday. He did it and looked ph-e-n-o-m-e-n-a-l (one of Pete's favorite words). 


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: pellius on November 29, 2011, 01:46:01 AM
Another time after laying off a while,King just blew back up to and beyond his previous size.

The guy knew how to diet and train.....of course he used drugs also, but he was a dedicated animal in the gym.


Why did Jeff King retire so early? I only remember one show that he did when he made the cover of one of the muscle mags. I believe it was the AAU Mr. America. The gym owner at the gym that I trained at, Mr. Barlow, thought he was going to be the greatest bodybuilder of his generation. He couldn't believe the level he was at at such a young age. The guy had Platz-like legs and the thickest neck I have ever seen on a man. Made me realize the importance of a developed neck and how it made you look so powerful. I think King and I are about the same age because I remember looking at him and looking at me and wanting to kill myself.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on November 29, 2011, 04:18:22 AM
Why did Jeff King retire so early? I only remember one show that he did when he made the cover of one of the muscle mags. I believe it was the AAU Mr. America. The gym owner at the gym that I trained at, Mr. Barlow, thought he was going to be the greatest bodybuilder of his generation. He couldn't believe the level he was at at such a young age. The guy had Platz-like legs and the thickest neck I have ever seen on a man. Made me realize the importance of a developed neck and how it made you look so powerful. I think King and I are about the same age because I remember looking at him and looking at me and wanting to kill myself.

i think it was because he was a multiple mr. Universe winner and he wanted to compete in the IFBB.  he tried and they said they didn't recognise his wins and he would have to earn a pro card through the NPC . he would have to qualify through the ranks and win the USA's or nationals.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 29, 2011, 04:19:31 AM
i think it was because he was a multiple mr. Universe winner and he wanted to compete in the IFBB.  he tried and they said they didn't recognise his wins and he would have to earn a pro card through the NPC . he would have to qualify through the ranks and win the USA's or nationals.
Yup.....he didn`t feel that he should be made to re-qualify.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 29, 2011, 06:15:10 AM
 8)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/STRONG76/strong762/EricOtero06.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/news/2005-02/050305durr04.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S-gKYe-CMSI/AAAAAAAAHQc/EHpo68hSzAo/s400/Eric-Otero-1.jpg)

(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/t432.jpg)

(http://berrydemeyfansite.com/Olympia88-50.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/19/images/Gary-Leonard%20(2).jpg)

(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/history/history_73mro2.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/10/images/Bob-Birdsong%20(11).jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 29, 2011, 07:44:39 AM
late eric otero good build,,charles durr won class at usa's matarrazzo won overall dude was good bber think he turned pro eventually .


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on November 29, 2011, 08:53:48 AM
Well,for an example,I was out running the streets and hitting the bottle pretty hard so I hadn`t seen the inside of a gym in almost 7 years at the time.............I hooked up with a young kid who was a friend of my cousins who just started to train,as no one else seemed to want to train with me and actually shunned me...I was pissed and vowed to train my ass off once again.

Looking back,the way I looked at the time,I would not have shunned me,I would have ran far far away from me!!  LOL  ;D

Anyway,I looked like a dead man who forgot to lay down.

Back to King,I hadn`t seen him in eons and he walks in one day with Ed Jubinville and Bob Gruskin and they were gonna` take some pics for an article or something,as King was gonna` start prepping for the 87' NABBA Mr. Universe.

I heard them tell the gym owner that Jeff weighed 305 pounds....he looked huge,but very very solid at this weight.

In walks the kid I`m just starting to train with and he yells out,"Who`s that fat fuck ??

I almost shit my pants...I think King heard  him but said nothing.....it was hilarious at the time. ;D

In a fast 3 months/12-13 weeks, King was ripped to shreds,hit England like a storm and won the Mr. Universe.

In that 3 months time,he literally looked shrinkwrapped and grainy as all hell.

I don`t know what he weighed for the show but he probably lost around 50 pounds or more easily..............the only cardio I ever saw him do was short rides on a stationary bike.
what's the story with bob gruskin, i know he had connections to all the top east coast bodybuil;ders like king and meeko etc?  bob o'leary, ed jubinville and bob gruskin?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 29, 2011, 09:06:08 AM
I don`t really know much about Gruskin......just saw him earlier this month at the NABBA Nationals,he`s involved with NABBA USA these days and has been for years.,

He used to come to Central City Gym back in the day and photograph guys like Pat Hayes and Rich Roy training for upcoming articles in "Muscle Up",Muscle & Bodybuilder",and the other Charlton publications............ their names escape me at the moment.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 29, 2011, 09:54:52 AM
WES and all, I don't ever recall meeting Gruskin but possibly could have.

But does the name Joe Nazario strike a bell? Good friend many years ago and another one of many with whom I have lost contact with over the years.

But speaking of 'back east', I did meet a bodybuilder who always wanted to be Superman since he was a little kid (I think I wrote this on this Board a long time ago).


His mom even made him a Superman costume which he wore every day beneath a look-a like Clark Kent suit and tie. I forget the actual details but I seem to recall that he wore that get-up all through high school and evem during those long hot summer months.

He said he did lot of sweating in those good old days and knew the precise location of every telephone booth in his neighborhood.

The last time we communicated he was working for some railroad line in the NY area but still dreaming of leaping over tall buildings with a single bound! (His words.)

Hey, SUPE! If you're reading this, please contact me!

Ditto Bill Grant, Gary Leonard, Joe Nazario, Ernie, Solo, Hernon, Dale Ardrian, Birdsong and the Robert who was primed to be a shoe-in for the O but became a Sumo star instead.

It would be funny if you're reading this stuff after all these years.



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 29, 2011, 09:57:30 AM
late eric otero good build,,charles durr won class at usa's matarrazzo won overall dude was good bber think he turned pro eventually .
Durr did bevome a pro...sadly enough he also passed away a few years back.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 29, 2011, 10:02:16 AM
Durr did bevome a pro...sadly enough he also passed away a few years back.
oh yeah forgot about that,,,well gruskin he came to where i trained many times in 90's had good eye  ;)for bbing/bbers/ect,,,very non bbing looking look/dress wise was older then,,was nabba/aau guy who discovered /found alot of those guys all had same look great legs actually insane legs /conditioning,,he was friendly with casey kutchurak sp/ who came by the gym he was aau/nabba later ifbb mr poland he won to qualify,hade great build then.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 29, 2011, 10:09:41 AM
MAXREP, Speaking of Pete and supermarkets!  ..... and I don't want to accuse you nor Pete of malicious deeds .... but did you ever go grocery "shopping" with some of the Gold's Gym regulars?

I did once but never twice.

We'd all walk in with the intent to do some shopping and then meet up at the check-out stand, but I was the only one to show up with a cartload full of food.

Everyone else had walked up and down the aisles eating away to their heart's content starting in the vegetable section and finishing in the ice cream row after downing a quart or two of low fat milk.

Once they got to the register they'd pick up a roll of breath mints and pay the ten or twenty cents and leave that store with a belly full of food and a good smelling breath.

Just last week one of my wt lifting nephews pulled that shit by eating an apple while I was buying the turkey and what went with it and he was embarrassed as shit when I told the lady at the register to ring up the apple that 'num-nuts' (pointed to num-nuts) ate while going through the store.

Is that a common practice now-a-days? Or is it just a continuation of an old gym-rat tradition.

PS. PETE NEVER DID THAT!

OH yea! One well known individual was notorious for squirting a couple of cans of Redi-Whip on each and every grocery store visit. I never could understand that.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 29, 2011, 10:18:54 AM
Casey was an awesome bodybuilder:

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=36873&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/af7zk8tj7Kg/0.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 29, 2011, 10:24:27 AM
Casey was an awesome bodybuilder:

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=36873&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/af7zk8tj7Kg/0.jpg)
nice guy looked older than he was tho,,,great bi's,back,legs were sick in person.knew his stuff,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 29, 2011, 10:27:17 AM
DURR and CASEY!! How come I never heard of either of them? Must have been outside of the NPC.

The only Casey I knew was Pat Casey who I witnessed set the 600 pound bench press record in San Diego (and as soon as he racked it a lion roared - the contest site was close to the San Diego Zoo)  and Casey Sneider who was a great BB from somewhere around the Fresno area.

How did Otero pass away? Texas?  RIght?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 29, 2011, 10:28:24 AM
 8)

(http://www.wyomingwoman.net/images%5CPandolfo-Smith-1977.jpg)

(http://www.wyomingwoman.net/images/Koontz-1977.jpg)

(http://www.wyomingwoman.net/images/Hermosillo-1977.jpg)

(http://www.wyomingwoman.net/images/Broadway-Leonetti-1977.jpg)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/catalog/Pandolfobw2.jpg)

(http://www.tomterwilliger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Tony-over-60.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_1nLdNGnrAes/TZkmtw47YiI/AAAAAAAAECI/q8P5wU_gOjI/s512/tony-pandolfo-in-his-sixties.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 29, 2011, 10:30:47 AM
DURR and CASEY!! How come I never heard of either of them? Must have been outside of the NPC.

The only Casey I knew was Pat Casey who I witnessed set the 600 pound bench press record in San Diego (and as soon as he racked it a lion roared - the contest site was close to the San Diego Zoo)  and Casey Sneider who was a great BB from somewhere around the Fresno area.

How did Otero pass away? Texas?  RIght?
casey k was aau /nabba long time then crossed over and turned pro for ifbb did night of champions mid ninties when 40 or so guy's competed ,,he got mentioned or small pic in mag's for the show but that show was incredibly stacked for top 15 then rest of class 16th to back pack 40th were the euro guys,crossover with no hype,new guys nobody new.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 29, 2011, 10:34:06 AM
I remember waaay back when Casey sent in a pic from when he first started training to the "Letters To The Editor" section of MD magazine I think it was.......he was a bag of bones.....came a long way and was always shredded in his shows.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on November 29, 2011, 10:40:05 AM
Tim,is that Tony Pandolfo in those last pics you posted,thats great condition for that age.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on November 29, 2011, 10:41:52 AM
Hey Wes......


Thanks again for all the pics.....this is a fantastic thread you have going here!

Any shots of Gary Leonard?? Could you tell us about some of Jeff King's workouts??


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 29, 2011, 10:41:56 AM
Tim,is that Tony Pandolfo in those last pics you posted,thats great condition for that age.
Yup that`s Tony...one of my all time favorite amatuers.

He`s dead now also.......passed a few years ago.  :(


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 29, 2011, 10:45:49 AM
Stunt,this is all I could find on Oteros death:

ERIC OTERO, 37

FLEX is saddened to report the passing of IFBB pro bodybuilder ERIC OTERO. The 2001 NPC National middleweight champ, who last competed at the 2005 Europa Super Show, died May 15 in San Antonio, Texas, at the age of 37. Otero's autopsy results hadn't yet been completed as of our press time, but, according to his family, the medical examiner indicated that it appears Otero's death was the result of an infection that began in a tooth and entered his bloodstream.

Otero is survived by his wife, AMANDA, who was two-and-a-half months pregnant at the time of his death; his mother, MELVINA OTERO; his brother, DAVID BRAZAS, and David's wife, DEBORAH; and his sister, MARCELLA CHESHIER, among other family members. Otero, who served in the U.S. Army from 1989 to 1993, was buried with full military honors on Thursday, May 18, in San Antonio.

COPYRIGHT 2006 Weider Publications



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 29, 2011, 10:55:38 AM
Thanks, NJ!

You don't happen to know the SUPERMAN character I mentioned earlier? He was well known and from your area someplace. And a good bodybuilder. And he actually did heroic stuff like climbing tall trees to rescue cats, ect.

A real character most everyone knew back then. He'd be about 50 now.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 29, 2011, 10:59:19 AM
Thanks, WES! Way too young to pass away.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 29, 2011, 11:03:08 AM
Thanks, NJ!

You don't happen to know the SUPERMAN character I mentioned earlier? He was well known and from your area someplace. And a good bodybuilder. And he actually did heroic stuff like climbing tall trees to rescue cats, ect.

A real character most everyone knew back then. He'd be about 50 now.
no stunt can't say i do or even heresay sorry,,,but thanx to u and wes for this,,i can only sprinkle here and there..


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on November 29, 2011, 11:57:57 AM
Thanks again, NJ.

BTW... He did those cat rescues and other super stuff in his Superman suit.

I know some old friends of his (Ernie S.is one if he remembers that far back). I'll see if I can contact E. who may recall Superman's real identity.

So many characters in this here game!

Anyone recall Gypsy Boots? I think he was mentioned a few times earlier. He could throw a football a half a mile ..... (that's a real exaggeration , WES!)

I believe he invented the protein tablet. They were packaged like Life Savers and tasted like shit ....  or maybe more better - like alfalfa.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: _bruce_ on November 29, 2011, 01:58:18 PM
That's not going to happen Hazbin, when you hear  kids  nowadays saying , Branch Warren looks awesome , 80's bodybuilders look like swimmers, Brian Buchanan waist was too small, Chris Cormier physique was boring ..........etc  , you know bodybuilding is fucked.

It takes time to really appreciate quality.
I was thinking along the same line as stated above when I was younger. Even if you're fooled by shit in the beginning, given that one follows body culture as a whole(bb, dancing, olympic lifting, circus) over a longer period of time, timeless physiques begin to shine.

Stories and pics in this thread are outstanding.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on November 29, 2011, 02:00:13 PM
Thanks again, NJ.

BTW... He did those cat rescues and other super stuff in his Superman suit.

I know some old friends of his (Ernie S.is one if he remembers that far back). I'll see if I can contact E. who may recall Superman's real identity.

So many characters in this here game!

Anyone recall Gypsy Boots? I think he was mentioned a few times earlier. He could throw a football a half a mile ..... (that's a real exaggeration , WES!)

I believe he invented the protein tablet. They were packaged like Life Savers and tasted like shit ....  or maybe more better - like alfalfa.
LOL  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Howard on November 29, 2011, 02:50:45 PM
Durr did bevome a pro...sadly enough he also passed away a few years back.
He was the guy who won the overall America in 1996 and tested positive with a 78 x higher then normal tesosterone level .
I was there judging and can tell that the chairman Ted Karnezis botched the drug testing protocols and Durr won a law suit judgement .
The law suit ended the AAU  MR America for good as Disney sports pulled after his case.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on November 29, 2011, 11:57:10 PM
I trained with him several times. If I remember- he liked moderate weight, continuous tension stuff. Never locked any reps out. Good control. Above average volume. Nothing remarkable.  Darin was strong- Incline press 315 sets of 6-8.  High bar close stance squats 405 x 10-12 no locking out.

Again; he was in the top-5 of all the Gold's Venice cats I ever saw as far as "responding"  Only Mike Christian comes to mind as responding faster to less. Christian's transformations were CRAZY. Darin's were close.
Is it true Christian would take up to 6 months off, and within weeks look inhuman?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on November 30, 2011, 05:59:37 PM
Is it true Christian would take up to 6 months off, and within weeks look inhuman?
yeah,,,h


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on November 30, 2011, 06:55:47 PM
Is it true Christian would take up to 6 months off, and within weeks look inhuman?

When we would watch the transformation, all I could do was shake my head in disbelief. Add to that- his form as TERRIBLE and he wouldn't even appear to be paying any attention to what he was doing. Remarkable. Unmatched.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on December 01, 2011, 05:34:53 AM
When we would watch the transformation, all I could do was shake my head in disbelief. Add to that- his form as TERRIBLE and he wouldn't even appear to be paying any attention to what he was doing. Remarkable. Unmatched.
do you put this down to

Genes?
Aas response?
Megadoses?

Can't imagine christian would put much effort into diet neither


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on December 01, 2011, 06:29:34 AM
Some shots of Christian:

(http://trademarksports.com/photos/MDcover.jpg)

(http://trademarksports.com/photos/MikeBW.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/mike-christian.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/138/images/Mike_Christian_photo22.jpg)

(http://muscleshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/mystery10.jpg)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c52/FlangMasterJ/MikeChristian_65721.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: notsureifsrs on December 01, 2011, 09:25:41 AM
When we would watch the transformation, all I could do was shake my head in disbelief. Add to that- his form as TERRIBLE and he wouldn't even appear to be paying any attention to what he was doing. Remarkable. Unmatched.
During this 6 month did he train at all?
what did his diet look like? and did he got fat ?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on December 02, 2011, 01:14:15 AM
If mike christians lower body had been on par with his great upper, he wouldve made haney's life much tougher


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Spicoli on December 02, 2011, 02:57:40 AM
To busy with crazy wear and da hotties. couldnt be bothered.lol.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on December 02, 2011, 11:02:27 AM
To busy with crazy wear and da hotties. couldnt be bothered.lol.
he also admitted to rec drugs


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on December 04, 2011, 01:28:48 PM
(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/49324d1322073555-golds-gym-gold-era-golds-gym-era.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on December 04, 2011, 01:36:22 PM
(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/49497d1322856362-golds-gym-gold-era-gg.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on December 05, 2011, 11:14:23 AM
Nice shot of the old Gold's on Pacific.....when I would go out to train at Gold's Venice.....I would stay at the Marina Pacific Hotel.....and would walk to the gym from the Hotel and when I walked by the old Gold's building...I would get chills up my spine just thinking about all the history and all the greats who trained there.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 05, 2011, 11:24:49 AM
(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/49324d1322073555-golds-gym-gold-era-golds-gym-era.jpg)

I'm waay in the back there somewhere.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on December 05, 2011, 02:25:25 PM
 ;D how many can you name, i see ken waller robert joc----z,barabarian bros pete grymko. stacey bently claudia wilborn andres cahling lou ferrigno, manuel perry dave mass.... ron teufel, mike torchia both mentzers, bill reynolds,lisa lyon tom platz chris dickerson,bill grant others tpp hard to see.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: xpac2 on December 05, 2011, 08:12:31 PM
I'm waay in the back there somewhere.

 ::)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: _bruce_ on December 06, 2011, 04:17:02 AM
(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/49324d1322073555-golds-gym-gold-era-golds-gym-era.jpg)

Every kid's dream come true - and I really mean that.  8)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Thespritz0 on December 11, 2011, 01:24:50 PM
B U M P  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on December 11, 2011, 07:00:16 PM
There's a print someplace on line identifying each and every person in that photo.

How many people in that photo have passed away since it was taken?

I can see Mike and Ray and Ron Teufel

ANd there was another photo shot with Pete more up towards the front.

Those were the "Bestest of the Best Days of Bodybuilding".


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on December 12, 2011, 04:01:53 AM
There's a print someplace on line identifying each and every person in that photo.

How many people in that photo have passed away since it was taken?

I can see Mike and Ray and Ron Teufel

ANd there was another photo shot with Pete more up towards the front.

Those were the "Bestest of the Best Days of Bodybuilding".
Here ya` go Stunt,I beleive this was written by MaxRep!

(http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n392/Evil-z/Golds20Gym20Numbered.jpg)


1 Charlie Leek (went to jail for cocaine)
2 Bill Grants girlfriend
3 This girl was a gym groupie. Went out with Waller and a few others.
4 Ken Waller
5 ?
6 Andreas Cahling
7 Rita Brown (Who later married Don Ross)
8 Lisa Lyons
9 Lou Ferrigno
10 Dan Franklin (Trained with Ferrigno)
11 Mike Mentzer
12 Ray Mentzer
13 Bob Jakowitz
14 Bill Grant
15 David Paul
16 Eric Stienlick
17 Claudia Wilborn
18 She was Tom's fiance but was having a fling with Eric S (Everyone was afraid to tell Tom) and I think they ended up getting married. Eric was a writer for Ironman and Weider and Tom's training partner.
19 Tom Platz
20 Stacey Bentley
21 Chris Dickerson
22 Dave Mastorakis, Personal; who was personal training Jane Fonda at the time of this pic.
23 Ron Tuefel
24 Mike Torcia
25 ?
26 Dave Billows (Worked at the front desk)
27 Mike Clancy
28 Peter Paul
29 Nick Martino (Owned Gold's with Pete later died just before they moved to the Hampton site and then Tim got involved)
30 Manual Perry
31 Bill Reynolds (Deceased)
32 Denny Malloy (Mike and Ray's training partner now deceased)
33 Kent Kuhen
34 Jon Loyd (An excellent BB and owner of Gold's Northridge)
35 Jim Usach
36 ?
37 Bob Greeney
38 Joe Nasario
39 Bob Brooley
40 ?
41 Ed Connors
42 Blonde girl with the headband was of fling of Peter G's and was a freak. A friend of mine and I were with Pete and her when she tried to get a German Shepard in the park to perform oral on her!!!
43 Pete Grymkowski
44 Tim Kimber
45 ?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: _bruce_ on December 12, 2011, 04:31:11 AM
Here ya` go Stunt,I beleive this was written by MaxRep!

(http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n392/Evil-z/Golds20Gym20Numbered.jpg)


1 Charlie Leek (went to jail for cocaine)
2 Bill Grants girlfriend
3 This girl was a gym groupie. Went out with Waller and a few others.
4 Ken Waller
5 ?
6 Andreas Cahling
7 Rita Brown (Who later married Don Ross)
8 Lisa Lyons
9 Lou Ferrigno
10 Dan Franklin (Trained with Ferrigno)
11 Mike Mentzer
12 Ray Mentzer
13 Bob Jakowitz
14 Bill Grant
15 David Paul
16 Eric Stienlick
17 Claudia Wilborn
18 She was Tom's fiance but was having a fling with Eric S (Everyone was afraid to tell Tom) and I think they ended up getting married. Eric was a writer for Ironman and Weider and Tom's training partner.
19 Tom Platz
20 Stacey Bentley
21 Chris Dickerson
22 Dave Mastorakis, Personal; who was personal training Jane Fonda at the time of this pic.
23 Ron Tuefel
24 Mike Torcia
25 ?
26 Dave Billows (Worked at the front desk)
27 Mike Clancy
28 Peter Paul
29 Nick Martino (Owned Gold's with Pete later died just before they moved to the Hampton site and then Tim got involved)
30 Manual Perry
31 Bill Reynolds (Deceased)
32 Denny Malloy (Mike and Ray's training partner now deceased)
33 Kent Kuhen
34 Jon Loyd (An excellent BB and owner of Gold's Northridge)
35 Jim Usach
36 ?
37 Bob Greeney
38 Joe Nasario
39 Bob Brooley
40 ?
41 Ed Connors
42 Blonde girl with the headband was of fling of Peter G's and was a freak. A friend of mine and I were with Pete and her when she tried to get a German Shepard in the park to perform oral on her!!!
43 Pete Grymkowski
44 Tim Kimber
45 ?


Cool.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: dr.chimps on December 12, 2011, 04:34:00 AM
Unless it's a nickname, I'm figuring #30 is Manuel (Manny) Perry, not Manual.    ;D 


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: RS on December 12, 2011, 04:56:17 AM
Damn - this is a great thread !  I'm really enjoying reading thru it. These are all the guys who were around when I was growing up and competeing.  They all look like they are supposed to look - not like the guys of today with all the oil shot into laggin bodyparts and insulin... etc . . You really think about it the "sport" has just degenerated.

Anyway - keep up the great posts guys.  It's pretty cool to read all the old stories and memories posted here.

THX, RS


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: willie mosconi on December 21, 2011, 05:06:08 PM
Here ya` go Stunt,I beleive this was written by MaxRep!

(http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n392/Evil-z/Golds20Gym20Numbered.jpg)


1 Charlie Leek (went to jail for cocaine)
2 Bill Grants girlfriend
3 This girl was a gym groupie. Went out with Waller and a few others.
4 Ken Waller
5 ?
6 Andreas Cahling
7 Rita Brown (Who later married Don Ross)
8 Lisa Lyons
9 Lou Ferrigno
10 Dan Franklin (Trained with Ferrigno)
11 Mike Mentzer
12 Ray Mentzer
13 Bob Jakowitz
14 Bill Grant
15 David Paul
16 Eric Stienlick
17 Claudia Wilborn
18 She was Tom's fiance but was having a fling with Eric S (Everyone was afraid to tell Tom) and I think they ended up getting married. Eric was a writer for Ironman and Weider and Tom's training partner.
19 Tom Platz
20 Stacey Bentley
21 Chris Dickerson
22 Dave Mastorakis, Personal; who was personal training Jane Fonda at the time of this pic.
23 Ron Tuefel
24 Mike Torcia
25 ?
26 Dave Billows (Worked at the front desk)
27 Mike Clancy
28 Peter Paul
29 Nick Martino (Owned Gold's with Pete later died just before they moved to the Hampton site and then Tim got involved)
30 Manual Perry
31 Bill Reynolds (Deceased)
32 Denny Malloy (Mike and Ray's training partner now deceased)
33 Kent Kuhen
34 Jon Loyd (An excellent BB and owner of Gold's Northridge)
35 Jim Usach
36 ?
37 Bob Greeney
38 Joe Nasario
39 Bob Brooley
40 ?
41 Ed Connors
42 Blonde girl with the headband was of fling of Peter G's and was a freak. A friend of mine and I were with Pete and her when she tried to get a German Shepard in the park to perform oral on her!!!
43 Pete Grymkowski
44 Tim Kimber
45 ?


When was that picture taken?

This doesn't look like the Hampton Dr. Venice Gold's. When did it move to Hampton? 1980 or so?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 05:08:39 PM
 8)

(http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33954&stc=1&d=1267759718)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3174/2624914537_877e6dd02d.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3037/2625736470_8460e8d595_m.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/2594615404_3cc5c55b7f_m.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2725270431_635282fc99_m.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3173/2591149946_c38fccb973_m.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 18, 2012, 06:30:31 PM
Great damn thread.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2012, 06:38:56 PM
mentzer's were both built well,shame they died within days of each other.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 06:42:13 PM
 8)

(http://www.bodybuilders.com/tonyp4.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LLtWgB59siU/TtKbGUPyfbI/AAAAAAAAB1o/RD2A0awAxvY/estep06.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RcZ24vxVfEQ/TtKa9fEYMTI/AAAAAAAAB0Q/vi7RGoypsY4/s800/a6c0a-roger_ester_.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-voAYsIkXKd4/TtKbIv7EHtI/AAAAAAAAB14/xZdEfym-VyA/s800/estep10.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-bNseylHmyy4/TtU_9j1dJLI/AAAAAAAAB3g/lFUUoLYTHCs/s800/Magazine%252520work%252520006%252520%2525285%252529.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 06:49:47 PM
 8)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pYpN-xjEReI/TtU__URHMkI/AAAAAAAAB3o/uPtl1wt9X38/s800/8234_1247267139172_1154244629_30782791_495106_n.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-58iihb2Jtpw/TtU_73v5EsI/AAAAAAAAB2s/pyw-_9acVF0/s800/264619_230630416959395_121927594496345_743993_7384839_n.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1UMK_KY8xqE/TtKbF6eNFtI/AAAAAAAAB1g/NrKr8nA4CGY/s800/estep03.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rdrNFYrZ4y4/TtKbFFTEjDI/AAAAAAAAB1c/YhEbXCCZl8w/s800/denis_adass6.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 06:51:06 PM
Can you guys see the pics in the last two posts I`ve posted ?

Thanks.  :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2012, 06:51:57 PM
8)

(http://www.bodybuilders.com/tonyp4.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LLtWgB59siU/TtKbGUPyfbI/AAAAAAAAB1o/RD2A0awAxvY/estep06.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RcZ24vxVfEQ/TtKa9fEYMTI/AAAAAAAAB0Q/vi7RGoypsY4/s800/a6c0a-roger_ester_.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-voAYsIkXKd4/TtKbIv7EHtI/AAAAAAAAB14/xZdEfym-VyA/s800/estep10.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-bNseylHmyy4/TtU_9j1dJLI/AAAAAAAAB3g/lFUUoLYTHCs/s800/Magazine%252520work%252520006%252520%2525285%252529.jpg)

kozma,valente,lyle,christian.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 06:52:56 PM
Don`t forget Pete Grymkowski


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2012, 06:53:40 PM
powerlifter/bber roger erstep?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 06:55:49 PM
 8)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PgsfZ1957rU/TtKa1kjYdYI/AAAAAAAABy0/OlVJR77K2iM/s800/Magazine%252520work%252520007%252520%2525282%252529.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8kSHAJ65jO4/TtKa2i3HNSI/AAAAAAAABzM/r-KRwi395Hs/s800/Steve%252520Bohnstedt4.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iHfrhAThKJc/TtKbOGXLG_I/AAAAAAAAB2M/oM8t9KyhHCo/s800/Lee-08.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 06:56:42 PM
powerlifter/bber roger erstep?
Yes indeed.....thick bastard!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 06:57:23 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lg2ip-09GOY/TtKa-SAHoBI/AAAAAAAAB0c/gC7Vn_O0yIM/s800/barbarians_dc_cab.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:00:45 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qvQN543eknc/Tvo0562CNII/AAAAAAAACJ4/BVzjH0UZFag/s800/brown04.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:01:49 PM
 8)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IKod4GeRUwA/Tvo1HQJ7t3I/AAAAAAAACK0/BvLxYeqP01g/s800/muenzer_cotrell2.jpg)


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xVllVj1uTTw/Tvo1D1eT9kI/AAAAAAAACKk/I7rqpsJpzs0/s800/muenzer_cotrell1.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2012, 07:02:24 PM
8)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PgsfZ1957rU/TtKa1kjYdYI/AAAAAAAABy0/OlVJR77K2iM/s800/Magazine%252520work%252520007%252520%2525282%252529.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8kSHAJ65jO4/TtKa2i3HNSI/AAAAAAAABzM/r-KRwi395Hs/s800/Steve%252520Bohnstedt4.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iHfrhAThKJc/TtKbOGXLG_I/AAAAAAAAB2M/oM8t9KyhHCo/s800/Lee-08.jpg)
rick valente won mr la or mr cali i believe in 87 good build.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:03:36 PM
Rick was really cool.....loved him on that TV show back in the day.

He used to train with Robby Robinson too..........imagine those workouts!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2012, 07:04:32 PM
8)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IKod4GeRUwA/Tvo1HQJ7t3I/AAAAAAAACK0/BvLxYeqP01g/s800/muenzer_cotrell2.jpg)


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xVllVj1uTTw/Tvo1D1eT9kI/AAAAAAAACKk/I7rqpsJpzs0/s800/muenzer_cotrell1.jpg)
porter and munzer,,,cotrell might have been weider guy but he had heck of a build,,chest,delts thick,got ripped .


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:04:37 PM
Rick again;

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dTsCJ4JuGhI/Tvo0_qYOhmI/AAAAAAAACKc/q3NYg4WuQ3M/s800/ChuckAronoldi%252520%2525281%252529.png)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:05:49 PM
Here`s a dude from Joisey for ya` !!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UXa9DNeqMnY/TvrIQT7vpkI/AAAAAAAACLg/7ppPIm77sS0/s800/1988-noc-01_20090828_1520251460.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:07:29 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YPS6ro_mTm4/TvrIPT5pXRI/AAAAAAAACLY/MGSUY0wluEk/s800/1988-noc-03_20090828_1668916519.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2012, 07:08:12 PM
Here`s a dude from Joisey for ya` !!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UXa9DNeqMnY/TvrIQT7vpkI/AAAAAAAACLg/7ppPIm77sS0/s800/1988-noc-01_20090828_1520251460.jpg)
phil hill narrow as fuck,shirt of thick as fuk,,,,nationals 87 lost overall to ray,88 wins noc never gets in great shape for mro gone,,,,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 18, 2012, 07:08:18 PM
he black and white pics are great.  


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2012, 07:09:06 PM
Here`s a dude from Joisey for ya` !!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UXa9DNeqMnY/TvrIQT7vpkI/AAAAAAAACLg/7ppPIm77sS0/s800/1988-noc-01_20090828_1520251460.jpg)
bob paris behind him,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2012, 07:09:40 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YPS6ro_mTm4/TvrIPT5pXRI/AAAAAAAACLY/MGSUY0wluEk/s800/1988-noc-03_20090828_1668916519.jpg)
haitian sensation,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:11:48 PM
More old shit tomorrow!!  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2012, 07:12:52 PM
More old shit tomorrow!!  ;D
im tireing u out,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:13:23 PM
he black and white pics are great. 
Always looked better IMO.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:14:08 PM
im tireing u out,,,
No,just gotta` walk my dogs and eat again!  ;D

it`s fucking freezing out........damn dogs! 


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:16:28 PM
If anyone`s having trouble viewing the new pics I added,just refresh your screen.

they`re loading mega-slow for me.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 18, 2012, 07:19:32 PM
i grew up in BB during mid late 90's.  Those pics from the 70's 80's are epic though. 


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:30:18 PM
i grew up in BB during mid late 90's.  Those pics from the 70's 80's are epic though. 
Hell yeah,much more inspiring than the shit today by far!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:37:54 PM
Notice Jeff Kings hat....."Springfield Chiefs".......my hometown babeeeeeeeeeeee!!

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-J9ONBFHlwAg/TbvwsBiOKWI/AAAAAAAAA2A/Rozz3YHQhuk/joe_meeko-mom_jpg.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:39:29 PM
Joe Meeko!

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pi7DHTScr_M/TbvwtUlhUnI/AAAAAAAAA2E/WVEY67XbxA8/s640/joe_meeko.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SBnQPE4KGvA/ThB3ly-l6JI/AAAAAAAABNw/MiSa4WOhFBA/s800/joe_meeko_1984a.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9llDnbg_rMs/ThB4ANKirEI/AAAAAAAABN8/JYVILLd0t1c/s800/Joe_Meeko.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:41:04 PM
Joe Meeko was a nice guy.......sent me a free pair of his "Power-Grips" a few years back before he died......used them today doing back!!

Best grips/hooks I`ve ever owned.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:42:27 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7XG4uuZYOiI/Tf_LU494u_I/AAAAAAAABKU/a4iTKFBqC2I/s800/217333_205180969504340_121927594496345_626970_7148117_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: che on January 18, 2012, 07:42:44 PM
Lots of swimmers back in the 80's


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:43:38 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-kYealziXGoY/ThDbNDIIhQI/AAAAAAAABOc/mjXN_Q-EnYM/s800/samir_kiss_1983_.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7dmasXZcULY/ThFWs_0_r0I/AAAAAAAABOw/YuOTtumX9p4/s800/82471906965.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u9EiUMo52-Q/ThFWwUpEgdI/AAAAAAAABPE/kv3uPhldFtA/s800/shawnhomans89.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:46:12 PM
Found a pic of our own Keith Jones on the web.....RIP brother.  :(

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ECF2oaGBtMw/TnmtICWrCSI/AAAAAAAABWo/sSSohX1oRzU/s800/barbarian_shirts%252520copy.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:47:21 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fG7B6MTvHvk/TnzRemhG67I/AAAAAAAABXU/J9dslZA25KY/s800/denis_adass_flex_wheeler.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bE6TfFkhRNM/TnzRnq4gNGI/AAAAAAAABXw/OHKPzWDPZSw/s800/tony_pearson.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YlxtCbJFWwM/TnzRjGmzkWI/AAAAAAAABXk/mts58-I2Ps0/s800/mti139.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 07:49:18 PM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A3CCbCYGZ9I/TnmtB5PB1RI/AAAAAAAABWU/dodpZLSQt1Y/s800/321606_227530180632640_202786569773668_639272_6919122_n.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e7UJ_BRMdMY/TnmtAssSBnI/AAAAAAAABWM/Y7AMXYh0DBg/s800/6688_123622247455_612197455_3034839_2509531_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2012, 07:56:29 PM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A3CCbCYGZ9I/TnmtB5PB1RI/AAAAAAAABWU/dodpZLSQt1Y/s800/321606_227530180632640_202786569773668_639272_6919122_n.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e7UJ_BRMdMY/TnmtAssSBnI/AAAAAAAABWM/Y7AMXYh0DBg/s800/6688_123622247455_612197455_3034839_2509531_n.jpg)
terelli ,,hnashayk from jersey as well,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 08:27:40 PM
Lots of swimmers back in the 80's
Watch your mouth convict!  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 08:29:03 PM
terelli ,,hnashayk from jersey as well,,,
As are John and Shirley Kemper.............I know you knew that,just thought I`d throw it in there.  :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: che on January 18, 2012, 08:32:03 PM
Watch your mouth convict!  ;D

WTF happened to bodybuilding ,WES  ???  :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 18, 2012, 08:48:13 PM
WTF happened to bodybuilding ,WES  ???  :'( :'( :'( :'(
It took a humongous fucking wrong turn somewhere bro..............fucking sad isn`t it?

I still do it for me........... and the new guys don`t inspire me much at all.

These kids here who take tons of shit to become a pro are just fucking dreaming...they should just be trying to look as good as possible and stop fucking dreaming.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on January 19, 2012, 02:57:48 AM
What did rick valente do for a living? Before the tv fitness shows



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on January 19, 2012, 03:18:46 AM
What did rick valente do for a living? Before the tv fitness shows



I think he was doing Tonya Knight. ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on January 19, 2012, 03:20:23 AM
I think he was doing Tonya Knight. ;D
that's an occupation I wouldn't mind

I might put in overtime


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on January 19, 2012, 03:21:22 AM
I`d even do weekends. ;D ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 05:47:41 AM
I`d be working around the clock!  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on January 19, 2012, 05:50:43 AM
Tim,i`ll send you a pm with a link to something you might find interesting.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 06:17:03 AM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6014/5878442514_64754db36d_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 06:24:37 AM
(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/15970555797/1/tumblr_lxwwmwvdjs1qj2f0g)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/15970374637/1/tumblr_lxwwi1KilY1qj2f0g)

An old buddy of mine from back home.....Pat Hayes:

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/15970057747/1/tumblr_lxww9kBuAn1qj2f0g)

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxc3kxmL3h1qj2f0go1_500.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 06:29:00 AM
Tim,i`ll send you a pm with a link to something you might find interesting.
Shep,did you get the link I sent you.......let me know and thanks again.  :)


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: kyomu on January 19, 2012, 06:35:42 AM
A young Gunther Schlierkamp............b elieve it or not.

(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/Tyrol3/Batman.jpg)
And Marcos Chacon!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 06:37:19 AM
Yup,I knew he looked familiar but could place the face.

Thanks bro!  :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on January 19, 2012, 06:54:53 AM
Shep,did you get the link I sent you.......let me know and thanks again.  :)

Yeah,i got the link but it just takes me to a page advertising supplements,can`t see anywhere that i might have to register though.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: kyomu on January 19, 2012, 07:01:50 AM
you're not gonna see this pose on an IFBB stage any time soon!!!
During i keep on competing at least no! ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2012, 08:40:37 AM
As are John and Shirley Kemper.............I know you knew that,just thought I`d throw it in there.  :)
i jumped the gun there ,,i had that mag dude,,,,,looks like hnashayk a bit,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 09:21:14 AM
Yeah,i got the link but it just takes me to a page advertising supplements,can`t see anywhere that i might have to register though.
I`ll try again and re-send it to you...........hope I can do it right this time!  :(


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 09:40:36 AM
During i keep on competing at least no! ;)

Nice shot.....looking really good there brother.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 09:42:36 AM
i jumped the gun there ,,i had that mag dude,,,,,looks like hnashayk a bit,,,
Yes he does in that pic.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 09:46:28 AM
 8)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/16117532534/1/tumblr_ly1yi0VLnq1qj2f0g)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxnhtaZdBV1qj2f0go1_500.jpg)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/15691060995/1/tumblr_lxnhasqnRF1qj2f0g)

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxjuomWKb41qj2f0go1_400.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on January 19, 2012, 09:50:51 AM
The above pics are fantastic

Gotta love 80s bbing


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: kyomu on January 19, 2012, 09:52:48 AM
Whatever say about him, Bob Paris looked like a GOD.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Man of Steel on January 19, 2012, 10:02:57 AM
The waists in every pic in this thread are way too small.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 10:03:22 AM
The waists in every pic in this thread are way too small.
LOL  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: viking1 on January 19, 2012, 10:04:12 AM
(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/49324d1322073555-golds-gym-gold-era-golds-gym-era.jpg)

Wow, Eric Sternlicht's in there.... that's going way back!!!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 10:08:33 AM
 8)

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxwwc7NltH1qj2f0go1_500.jpg)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/15987960916/1/tumblr_lxwwp4ic7z1qj2f0g)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/15604316645/1/tumblr_lxjv4c00lD1qj2f0g)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/15527559351/1/tumblr_lxhxl6pRpb1qj2f0g)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/15383521345/1/tumblr_lxc7e4MIbY1qj2f0g)






Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 10:09:47 AM
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx1iojUYg11qj2f0go1_500.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: viking1 on January 19, 2012, 10:10:21 AM
awww, long are the days of wearing 2 fluffy socks on each foot   :D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2012, 10:37:52 AM
8)

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxwwc7NltH1qj2f0go1_500.jpg)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/15987960916/1/tumblr_lxwwp4ic7z1qj2f0g)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/15604316645/1/tumblr_lxjv4c00lD1qj2f0g)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/15527559351/1/tumblr_lxhxl6pRpb1qj2f0g)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/15383521345/1/tumblr_lxc7e4MIbY1qj2f0g)





jorge chic bentacourt some of the best bbing genes ever given to a teenager,vince comerford sick arms could have did well in ifbb if stayed,demey and t pearson doing miami vice weider ad lol,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on January 19, 2012, 11:13:20 AM
Who's that with john brown?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on January 19, 2012, 11:14:48 AM
How tall was betancourt? I mean, was he short? The guy had a phenomenal physique at such a young age, when he took the southern  states


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Mitch on January 19, 2012, 11:17:19 AM
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx1iojUYg11qj2f0go1_500.jpg)
Who is he? That is not Gunter Schlierkamp (but definitely a look-a-like contender):

(http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/original/2008/08/gc08_duke_nukem_02.JPG)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW56RJRtoSE

 :D



 


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on January 19, 2012, 11:19:11 AM
Who is he? That is not Gunter Schlierkamp (but definitely a look-a-like contender):

(http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/original/2008/08/gc08_duke_nukem_02.JPG)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW56RJRtoSE

 :D



 

that's not lee priest!



Vince commerford


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on January 19, 2012, 11:31:33 AM
Who's that with john brown?

rory leidemeyer or one of his clones jon aranita etc etc


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Mitch on January 19, 2012, 11:35:24 AM
that's not lee priest!



Vince commerford

thank you  :)

(http://storage.sfd.pl/1/images2006/20060530221616.jpg)

That's not Lee Priest but this dwarf got some nice guns :o


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on January 19, 2012, 11:47:30 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on January 19, 2012, 11:48:57 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on January 19, 2012, 11:49:24 AM
I have always wondered what became of Vinny Comerford.....He was one thick dude.....think he was maybe 5'3 or so....


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Montague on January 19, 2012, 12:00:03 PM
;D

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=453534;image)


Very good...
I'll raise you one bowler hat, a pimp cain, and a bow tie.

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/296/rory-bowtie.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on January 19, 2012, 12:57:35 PM
Whatever say about him, Bob Paris looked like a GOD.
X2!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on January 19, 2012, 01:36:44 PM
Only noticed now

What's up with Tony Pearson on the cover of architetural digest, lol?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 05:33:23 PM
Only noticed now

What's up with Tony Pearson on the cover of architetural digest, lol?
I was wondering the same thing ???


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2012, 06:42:22 PM
mr.new jersey,mr usa,ifbb pro vinny galanti ,,classic build.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 06:57:56 PM
Always liked Vinnys physique...........seems like a good guy too.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2012, 07:06:21 PM
more recent pro great build tho,,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:11:33 PM
Is that Dugdale ?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:14:23 PM
 8)

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxhwbvDID71qj2f0go1_r1_500.jpg)

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwoerupn9T1qj2f0go1_500.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2012, 07:15:29 PM
Is that Dugdale ?
yeah,,great physique. .


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2012, 07:17:20 PM
8)

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxhwbvDID71qj2f0go1_r1_500.jpg)

(http://width=500 height=479http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/14918670209/1/tumblr_lwx64wMAOV1qj2f0g)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/14765595673/1/tumblr_lwphhcjFbA1qj2f0g)

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwoerupn9T1qj2f0go1_500.jpg)
labrada at his biggest,fullest 190 or so then 95ish before retired,,,eddie robinson was a beast as teen and arms for days and quads,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:21:43 PM
Robinson had a huge bench press as a young guy too.

Always like Dugdale and I think he should place higher.....has a real good look regardless of height or/and bodyweight.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2012, 07:29:33 PM
Robinson had a huge bench press as a young guy too.

Always like Dugdale and I think he should place higher.....has a real good look regardless of height or/and bodyweight.
put one of your classic pics contest look.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:30:11 PM
...

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxc41gIIns1qj2f0go1_400.gif)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2012, 07:32:40 PM
...

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxc41gIIns1qj2f0go1_400.gif)
amazing upper body,,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:34:06 PM
If he had the legs to match,he would have kicked mucho ass!

Still did pretty damn good though.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2012, 07:40:08 PM
rusty older pic.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 19, 2012, 07:42:13 PM
This one of Rusty has to be ancient and no stache in this one!!

(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/33768-1/20+Rusty+Jeffers+picture.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on January 19, 2012, 11:24:40 PM
I was wondering the same thing ???

Maybe next months issue of house & home has branch on the cover doing leg presses


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on January 20, 2012, 12:39:18 AM
So its 1983,

You qualify for the nats, and when you get there, this is what you see...


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 20, 2012, 03:11:29 AM
So its 1983,

You qualify for the nats, and when you get there, this is what you see...
Awesome lineup!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2012, 08:13:08 AM
So its 1983,

You qualify for the nats, and when you get there, this is what you see...
yeah pro,pro,should have been,should have been,guy on far end next to matt dunno face.matt mendenhall had in with higher up's,best frame and muscle genetics given at the time ,dated people in the industry,,should have been a easy ride.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on January 20, 2012, 08:27:24 AM
guy on far end next to matt dunno face

Gaspari!

But he looks funny there, different


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2012, 08:32:11 AM
Gaspari!

But he looks funny there, different
thanx figo right can tell by chest lol....


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2012, 08:53:10 AM
vinny,mark,serge,franco.....


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 20, 2012, 08:55:31 AM
Gaspari!

But he looks funny there, different
Just much younger there.

Back in those days in just about all weight classes they had some fucking wars onstage.

Almost everyone looked great.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 20, 2012, 08:58:59 AM
Good shits NJ !


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 20, 2012, 08:59:58 AM
Check this one out that I found on the net.  LOL  ;D

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwncskI9DI1qj2f0go1_400.gif)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 20, 2012, 09:07:52 AM
 8)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/14422429814/1/tumblr_lwf6xgLELG1qj2f0g)

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvwdacu7AL1qj2f0go1_400.jpg)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/13927412284/1/tumblr_lvwd7cDzaC1qj2f0g)



Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: mcluvin on January 20, 2012, 09:21:01 AM
So true....I don`t even think they played music there,believe it or not.

So much better than todays bullshit gym idiots.

Joe Gold didn't believe in music in the gym. I'm not sure if Ken Sprague played tunes when he took over. Great thread !!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2012, 09:42:26 AM
8)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/14422429814/1/tumblr_lwf6xgLELG1qj2f0g)

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvwdacu7AL1qj2f0go1_400.jpg)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/80smuscle/13927412284/1/tumblr_lvwd7cDzaC1qj2f0g)


great wes,,yeah quinn and smith leg pressing with plates and plates and then each other on top of sled haha,,,,jean paul quality on quality at 180 lbs pheww,,,stewart mr legs/calves ,,small arms but good build overall got ripped as middle,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 20, 2012, 09:44:15 AM
Stewarts legs were nutty,as I said before,he would have went a lot further with better guns,but hey,he did the best with what he had and it was pretty damn good overall.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2012, 10:07:35 AM
few more,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: lesaucer on January 20, 2012, 10:29:25 AM
great motivational pics on this thread! photoshoped bbing pictures of today sucks compared to these ones


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2012, 10:36:28 AM
good mix,,,arnie,troy,,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on January 20, 2012, 10:48:09 AM
Just much younger there.

Back in those days in just about all weight classes they had some fucking wars onstage.

Almost everyone looked great.
can tell its rich cause of chest and quads, but the angle and the big hair, at 1st doesn't look like him!

Unbelievable wars like you say, what a time for bbing


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: g101 on January 20, 2012, 02:32:44 PM
high dose test
insulin

ruined body building  :-\

these guys from the 90's really look much much better than today's guys


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2012, 08:00:27 PM
zane,arnie


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 20, 2012, 08:01:43 PM
Epic photoshop on the Zane pic IMO.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2012, 08:11:10 PM
Epic photoshop on the Zane pic IMO.
thats been said,,he denied it,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2012, 08:18:11 PM
vin


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 20, 2012, 08:22:49 PM
thats been said,,he denied it,,
I know, read that a long time ago on Iron Age...I wanna` beleive,but it does looked shopped.

At any rate,he was a great bodybuilder..........one of the best even though most here call him a swimmer because he`s not 300 pounds.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2012, 08:23:24 PM
sick chest the oak,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 20, 2012, 08:23:35 PM
vin
Vinny was a judge at a couple of shows I did....I don`t think he voted for me!!  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2012, 08:28:25 PM
zane,benfatto


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 20, 2012, 08:57:15 PM
Cool pics.........great old shot of Zane........NABBA Mr. Universe contest I believe.

When I was a kid,Zane was my idol......read all his stuff and even thought I could look like him,but of course I would be a much more handsome version.  :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 20, 2012, 09:06:14 PM
sick chest the oak,,,

Best chest ever IMO. his pecs were immense. they  took up 3/4 of his torso and had perfect shape


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 21, 2012, 04:59:39 AM
(http://www.davedraper.com/pmwiki/uploads//PmWiki/FrankZane.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2012, 10:27:33 AM
Best chest ever IMO. his pecs were immense. they  took up 3/4 of his torso and had perfect shape
agree cool look.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 21, 2012, 10:54:00 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 21, 2012, 11:01:46 AM
(http://i11.tinypic.com/67sj7kh.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Mitch on January 21, 2012, 11:07:22 AM
Best chest ever IMO. his pecs were immense. they  took up 3/4 of his torso and had perfect shape

his detractors claimed he was all pecs and no delts. Maybe it's true. But imho this combination is way more esthetic as the other way around (huge delts+poor pecs) like the today's pros.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 21, 2012, 11:14:48 AM
 8)

(http://www.bodybuilders.com/mike10.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vv6jQGjbSOo/S3Np_2_0YdI/AAAAAAAAD_Y/yovYqpRQmm4/s400/Mike+Matarazzo+3.jpg)

(http://muscleshots.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/mystery19.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/SOElil1FIvI/AAAAAAAAAeo/Z9J22uGDVEQ/s400/mike-matarazzo-3.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/SOEllQotz5I/AAAAAAAAAew/FJOLD-xiKFY/s400/mike-matarazzo-4.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on January 21, 2012, 11:21:53 AM
for the zaneista's here.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 21, 2012, 11:23:24 AM
1967 IFBB Mr. Universe ?

Nice early shot of Zane!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: jwb on January 21, 2012, 11:38:01 AM
(http://www.davedraper.com/pmwiki/uploads//PmWiki/FrankZane.jpg)
Pretty sure this shot was just before the 1982 mr O. Zane said he smoothed out especially in the legs the day of the show but he was in great shape just before.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 21, 2012, 11:50:43 AM
I love that shot....looks awesome there.


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: B_B_C on January 21, 2012, 11:55:45 AM
Why did guys train barefoot sometimes back then? It seems like there are no possible benefits to doing so

not specifically for training but it is good for the arches (heal to toe & big to little toe) to go bare footed. It also works the toes as they grip the ground more than they would within shoes.
Most weightlifting and powerlifting boots are quiet flat and low heeled
 Unless one wears steelies there is not much protection ordinary trainers will provide if you drop a 20kg disc


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: dr.chimps on January 21, 2012, 11:59:04 AM
(http://i11.tinypic.com/67sj7kh.jpg)
Mike looking ridiculous, here.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: no one on January 21, 2012, 12:01:35 PM
Mike looking ridiculous, here.

agreed. the best photo i have seen of him.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: no one on January 21, 2012, 12:06:23 PM


this thread is a tribute to how you do not need to boat load anabolics and gh to build a fantastic physique.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2012, 12:17:18 PM
Mike looking ridiculous, here.
[/quote
91 usa first crack at national level show beat a hyped wheeler ,,,he weighed 228 hard and tough to beat.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 21, 2012, 12:26:00 PM
Mike`s a good dude.....met him in 2000 or 2001 at the Masters Nats where he guest posed.....as soon as I told him I was also from Massachusettes,he talked with me bacsktage about shit for 45 minutes or so like we were long lost friends.

He weighed over 300 and he was sloppy as hell......tore his shirt off then posed in trunks,then apologized to the audience because he was so out of shape..........said he was travelling a lot.

The people loved him anyway.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on January 21, 2012, 12:31:11 PM
Mike`s a good dude.....met him in 2000 or 2001 at the Masters Nats where he guest posed.....as soon as I told him I was also from Massachusettes,he talked with me bacsktage about shit for 45 minutes or so like we were long lost friends.

He weighed over 300 and he was sloppy as hell......tore his shirt off then posed in trunks,then apologized to the audience because he was so out of shape..........said he was travelling a lot.

The people loved him anyway.

Fantastic, from what I heard, he was a good guy, and worked hard, at guest spots. Pity what happened to his health


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 21, 2012, 12:34:49 PM
Fantastic, from what I heard, he was a good guy, and worked hard, at guest spots. Pity what happened to his health
Yeah,it`s always the good guys who get screwed!  


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: YoungBlood on January 21, 2012, 12:38:13 PM
met him in 2000 or 2001

He weighed over 300 and he was sloppy as hell......tore his shirt off then posed in trunks,then apologized to the audience because he was so out of shape..........said he was travelling a lot.

This sounds about the time he was at the NOC when he was far out of shape and ended up having to share the dais with Jocelyn Pelletier. Mike said he knew he would get crap for it, could have made up an excuse like food poisoning and backed out of the show. But instead he was "upfront" saying that he was traveling for guest posings quite a bit and that he was plain just out of shape.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 21, 2012, 12:40:06 PM
This sounds about the time he was at the NOC when he was far out of shape and ended up having to share the dais with Jocelyn Pelletier. Mike said he knew he would get crap for it, could have made up an excuse like food poisoning and backed out of the show. But instead he was "upfront" saying that he was traveling for guest posings quite a bit and that he was plain just out of shape.
Sounds right timewise...he looked crappy,but as you said,he was honest about it,and I think the people respected that as they gave him a good response.

He even went down and posed in the audience................ ...cool guy.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: YoungBlood on January 21, 2012, 12:46:11 PM


I also remember a couple years prior that he had a snippet in FLEX talking about Ronnie Coleman being "for real." Everyone at the time was talking about being 300lbs and 6% body fat and that sort of thing. But they were also saying Ronnie was not a good Olympian champion, not good for the "sport."

Mike saw Ronnie backstage somewhere and said that Ronnie was absolutely worthy of every good word said about him, onstage and off. He then mentioned "I weighed a fat and sloppy 300lbs but Ronnie was about 320. And solid. Not fat. I felt like a little kid next to him."


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 21, 2012, 12:48:25 PM
Yeah,he seemed like a humble guy.

Ronnie seems cool IMO.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2012, 04:25:29 PM
rolf,cahling,group...


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 21, 2012, 04:26:41 PM
Cool pics...never saw them before,except for the top group pic.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2012, 04:34:11 PM
lenda,big vic,bigger rolf...


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2012, 04:39:08 PM
momo,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2012, 04:43:35 PM
gary,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2012, 08:36:41 PM
troy,samir x2,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2012, 08:43:04 PM
tom,gary,samir,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 03:39:13 PM
mark,zane,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 03:44:33 PM
zane...


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 03:52:11 PM
frank,gang shot,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 22, 2012, 03:54:17 PM
Great pics bro.......keeping the thread alive.

I`ll post up more later.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 04:00:42 PM
classics///


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 22, 2012, 04:08:17 PM
 8)

(http://www.ifbb.com/contestresults/mensworld/68zane.jpg)

(http://www.onewaysystem.com/images/olimpiak_albuma/frank_zane.jpg)

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/benfatto/fb151.jpg)

(http://www.legendaryfitness.com/zanecolor.jpg)

(http://kif.pl/www/images/zoom/KBCSKH/Zane21.jpg)

(http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2011/05/12/110512124420333910.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 04:50:58 PM
rich,88 top 5,kev ,ron.vt in the house literally....


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 04:54:30 PM
al,v galanti,oak, :o


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 04:58:42 PM
demey awesome,vt,vin,vt...


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: B_B_C on January 22, 2012, 05:00:01 PM
al,v galanti,oak, :o

record photo
are they all really 12"


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 05:04:49 PM
richie,,,vt,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 22, 2012, 05:05:40 PM
 8)

(http://www.rbimba.lt/faktai/gallery/91-4.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson56_1_big.jpg)

(http://georgiabodybuilding.com/rogers05.gif)

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=36672&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_W1HsDawS3TY/Sgm0DWOeNdI/AAAAAAAAMZo/Oqn8VCZOhAw/s400/A+Cahling,+Mentzer+brothers+1980.jpg)

(http://www.mikementzer.com/images/cviatornu.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 05:07:36 PM
guz,cahling nice pic,yonnie was good natural lol,,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 05:12:28 PM
rich,big vince,shawn oh shawn guest posing ....


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 05:16:42 PM
sonny,holy chic :o,,oak young,,demey,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 22, 2012, 05:21:03 PM
 8)

(http://www.criticalbench.com/images/weightlifting-workout11.jpg)

(http://www.davedraper.com/mr-universe-1970-program.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/attachments/bodybuilding-discussion/10606d1192360266-1970s-bodybuilder-richard-baldwin-richardbaldwin17-1-.jpg)

(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/douggiefresh021/492517256_33b6c38d6c.jpg)

(http://www.ifbbcaribbean.com/halloffame/RickWayne2.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 22, 2012, 05:25:18 PM
 8)

(http://www.ifbbcaribbean.com/halloffame/AlbertBeckles2.jpg)

(http://www.edcorney.net/MDpicStart.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuild.ru/uploads/posts/2010-01/1264270073-darnoldcalf.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FIRUDvJHB9E/TaW0x162GUI/AAAAAAAAFEM/HB9prJoIYes/s1600/Arnold+Schwarzenegger+05.jpg)

(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/09%20bodybuilding%20pix/arnold%20s%20for%20web/1970-Arnold-&-Zane-70-U-winners.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 05:34:45 PM
nice wes,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 22, 2012, 05:38:47 PM
Thanks, you too.

Bob Chick looks great in that pic as does Taylor in that side triceps shot.



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 05:40:14 PM
vt,jj mr iron man 91 great yr for him,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 05:44:18 PM
rick wayne,vince big as a house  :o.big rich housin it,,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on January 22, 2012, 05:45:59 PM
Great shots!!

All we need to get this thread officially going to classic status is more stories from tommywishbone,Stunt,Max Rep,and a few other guys here that love the old school look and the way it was back then.


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Post by: wes on January 22, 2012, 05:46:34 PM
Taylor was a freak!


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Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 05:50:58 PM
holy hell rich,ripped zane,,,platz,demey good looking fuker,,,


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Post by: wes on January 22, 2012, 05:52:40 PM
I look waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Demay facially and physiquewise! 


IN MY DREAMS ANYWAY!  ;)


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Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 05:54:58 PM
I look waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Demay facially and physiquewise! 


IN MY DREAMS ANYWAY!  ;)
lol,,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 05:59:36 PM
rr,,,rich,taylor when he won nationals 88,bigger,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 06:09:50 PM
the mouth,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 06:16:44 PM
ray,mro,,,


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Post by: wes on January 22, 2012, 06:30:06 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=454155;image)

Pretty much close to perfect !!


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Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 06:32:01 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=454155;image)

Pretty much close to perfect !!
i think ur right,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 06:41:43 PM
labrada,,,shawn


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Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 06:53:38 PM
newman,quadzilla rules,newman back,demmayyooo...


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Post by: wes on January 22, 2012, 06:56:41 PM
Never saw that top shot of Newman before.................. cool!


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Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 06:59:09 PM
lee,big paul,young demayo,dennis.


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Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 07:07:29 PM
holy quadzilla,mr usa newman 1994...


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Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 07:13:58 PM
newman,vic terra,,,


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Post by: wes on January 22, 2012, 07:18:20 PM
Victor Terra......Masachusettes in da` house!


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Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 07:21:54 PM
flexin dutchmen,


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Post by: njflex on January 22, 2012, 07:28:49 PM
chicky,berry,


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 07:20:03 AM
new kev,lee,dennis,


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Post by: Figo on January 24, 2012, 07:38:51 AM
Do you guys think if  newman hadn't fallen ill, he couldve been a real threat at the olympia?


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 07:53:16 AM
Do you guys think if  newman hadn't fallen ill, he couldve been a real threat at the olympia?

depends on conditioning,structure and size was there,shape too,never had chance to mature as pro like kev,ray,wheeler,ect,,lone show was 7th at ironman i think 97 he looked good a bit soft ,he was 3 yrs from usa prime so i think he layed off going all out.


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 08:18:22 AM
rich,paul,watch u talkin bout willis,lee


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Post by: wes on January 24, 2012, 08:21:52 AM
Cool shot NJ !!


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 08:39:12 AM
mouth,vince guest pose,berry


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Post by: no one on January 24, 2012, 09:23:06 AM
imo, dennis newman had one of the best physiques in bbing history.

the kind of physique that you could strive for and be proud to have, not some overly juiced up abomination. everything had proportion, balance and size.

looked unreal the year he won the USA's.

i've been training for what seems like forever and will never come close to having his physique, but im never going to stop trying.


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 09:45:21 AM
usa's win right here,,,,he looked awesome...i had some older pics from early 20's il  find them,he did come on quick so he ramped up dose to move up quick,,but ur right no one had cool build/look.


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Post by: shortstack on January 24, 2012, 09:49:49 AM
awesome thread!!!


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 10:00:05 AM
richie,,teen shawn :o,rich,berry,,,


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Post by: Cutlet767 on January 24, 2012, 10:01:27 AM
Bodybuilders should not be allowed to compete above 180, seriously.


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 10:15:38 AM
franco santorielo,big ron ,mike christian,strydom,,,


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Post by: _bruce_ on January 24, 2012, 10:25:30 AM
Great pics.
Newman and DeMayo were unreal.


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Post by: Figo on January 24, 2012, 10:41:36 AM
imo, dennis newman had one of the best physiques in bbing history.

the kind of physique that you could strive for and be proud to have, not some overly juiced up abomination. everything had proportion, balance and size.

looked unreal the year he won the USA's.

i've been training for what seems like forever and will never come close to having his physique, but im never going to stop trying.
exactly

Perfect structure, proportions, shape, full bellies, small joints, carried a lot of  size with flow and one can see him getting bigger while staying tight. Also very markeatable look

Only thing, as NJ said, is could he bring it all together

How often do you see height, structure, chest , delts, arms, back, lower body, all great, no flaws

Incredible  genes for bbing. Then again, we all said the same of Mendenhall...


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 12:05:15 PM
oak,pete,franco,arnie


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 02:05:33 PM
cahling,demayo,lou schooled,,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: mcluvin on January 24, 2012, 05:49:16 PM
Do you guys think if  newman hadn't fallen ill, he couldve been a real threat at the olympia?


RE;Dennis Newman
He did get better and attempted a comeback. Tore a pec doing dumbell benches.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 07:45:23 PM
RE;Dennis Newman
He did get better and attempted a comeback. Tore a pec doing dumbell benches.
97 ironman 7th place.


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 08:02:25 PM
oak,casey,doz,bertil,paris,fox


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 08:06:56 PM
yates,flex,debate is on,priest vs padilla


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 08:10:26 PM
new vs old,rolf,iron warrior,king paul,,


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 08:16:55 PM
mouth and chemist,legends...


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Post by: Lord of the Roidz on January 24, 2012, 08:20:03 PM
new vs old,rolf,iron warrior,king paul,,
That Ferrigno shot is from the 73 Mr. Universe. I think that might have been his best shape ever. Yes, he got bigger in the 93-94 comeback on the Gh and modern drugs..but his waist got thicker . In 74 he was smoother at the the Universe and he lost size at the 74 Olympia. In 75 he was smooth in Pretoria, so i think 73 was his best year.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 08:22:06 PM
That Ferrigno shot is from the 73 Mr. Universe. I think that might have been his best shape ever. Yes, he got bigger in the 93-94 comeback on the Gh and modern drugs..but his waist got thicker . In 74 he was smoother at the the Universe and he lost size at the 74 Olympia. In 75 he was smooth in Pretoria, so i think 73 was his best year.
cool,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 08:24:06 PM
one of the best builds period,,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 08:29:34 PM
paris,,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 24, 2012, 08:33:29 PM
strydom,terwillinger,


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Post by: Figo on January 24, 2012, 11:24:04 PM
Baciciannini all 4'11" of him with vince taylor!

Apparently he used to train 6 months on, 6 months off, as in no training at all


Thx for pics guys!


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Post by: Max_Rep on January 24, 2012, 11:55:30 PM

(http://kif.pl/www/images/zoom/KBCSKH/Zane21.jpg)


I remember when Danny Padilla told us Zane would do Roman Chair sit-up for 15, 30 and 45 minutes at a time... so we all started doing that.


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Post by: Max_Rep on January 24, 2012, 11:58:26 PM
Taken at World Gym on Main St.


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 04:34:02 AM
Taken at World Gym on Main St.

thanx rep and figo ....ill keep going,,,,,,trying not to repeat pics.


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 08:24:31 AM
rory/paris,myth,chris,defendis


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Post by: wes on January 25, 2012, 08:26:21 AM
Great thread!!


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 08:27:13 AM
poole,g leonard,reeves,mike


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 08:27:52 AM
trying to keep up with ur baby,,,,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 08:30:45 AM
jim,draper.wow,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 08:37:14 AM
louiiieee,zane,big lou.


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Post by: wes on January 25, 2012, 08:52:15 AM
trying to keep up with ur baby,,,,,,
Thanks,I got kind of burnt out after a while......seriously. ;)

I`ll add more later today though.................. ....gotta` keep the old school stuff alive !!


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Post by: Figo on January 25, 2012, 09:22:41 AM
Great thread!!

Props to whomever started it!


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 12:55:17 PM
al b,no contest for haney,oak,franco,batman!


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 12:59:18 PM
great strydom,,,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 01:01:28 PM
gary,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 01:04:17 PM
more gary,,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 01:07:29 PM
big gary,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 01:24:36 PM
more,,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 01:47:20 PM
eddie,gary,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 02:13:42 PM
oak,gary,mro,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 03:34:24 PM
mro's


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 03:38:54 PM
frank,franco,samir,haney


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 03:42:51 PM
franco,samir,yates,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 03:50:14 PM
mro cont,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 03:51:50 PM
mro arnie...


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 03:54:45 PM
mro cont,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 04:14:18 PM
jay,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 04:18:12 PM
dex,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 04:43:04 PM
doz,coleman....


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 04:45:26 PM
mro yates,coleman


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 04:47:19 PM
big dudes,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 04:54:25 PM
dozzer,,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 05:00:17 PM
more,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
yates,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 26, 2012, 08:48:52 PM
chic mr venice,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 26, 2012, 08:52:39 PM
chic,big back,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 26, 2012, 08:55:02 PM
eddie,chris,zane,kal


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Post by: njflex on January 26, 2012, 08:57:09 PM
chris,casey,waller,myth,mro scott


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Post by: njflex on January 26, 2012, 09:00:34 PM
bob vs titus,,zane,myth,j king


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Post by: njflex on January 26, 2012, 09:02:47 PM
kawak,lee,


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Post by: njflex on January 27, 2012, 07:28:59 AM
milos,,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 27, 2012, 07:32:37 AM
more,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 27, 2012, 07:36:17 AM
dengh15nis ,milos,milos kid,,,


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Post by: njflex on January 27, 2012, 07:39:48 AM
jersey guy dente,milos,demey,


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Post by: wes on February 10, 2012, 03:34:59 AM
bump


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Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 04:09:06 AM
Nice one Tim,i think this is the best pic ever of Arnie,just look at his back in the reflection in the mirror.


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Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 04:10:12 AM
Gaspari 85 olympia


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Post by: wes on February 10, 2012, 04:10:58 AM
Yes,he looks insanely monstrous in that pic!


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Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 04:11:22 AM
Labrada 88 olympia


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Post by: wes on February 10, 2012, 04:12:47 AM
Great shots.........don`t think I ever saw those before.


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Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 04:13:19 AM
A few Brits,Martin Alamango 1983 British m/w champ


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Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 04:14:40 AM
Andy Watts 1988 british lhw champ.


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Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 04:16:42 AM
Berry 1985


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Post by: wes on February 10, 2012, 04:17:03 AM
Sadly enough,I`ve never heard of these guys........they look incredible!!


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Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 04:20:03 AM
Andy Watts took a vote off Dorian in the overall the year Dorian turned pro,he only competed a couple of times.


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Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 04:21:41 AM
Perfection


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Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 04:23:30 AM
Danny


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Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 04:25:39 AM
I`d wear a t shirt every day if i had arms like this.


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Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 04:26:44 AM
Greg Deferro


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Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 04:29:47 AM
The guy 2nd from the left was a future olympia competitor,guess who.


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Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 04:31:42 AM
Mike


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Post by: wes on February 10, 2012, 04:33:38 AM
I`d wear a t shirt every day if i had arms like this.
Insane arms!!


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Post by: WillGrant on February 10, 2012, 04:42:38 AM
Perfection
Paris didnt look the great to me - seems to lack something.

Milos looks better imo.


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=455237;image)


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Post by: Krankenstein on February 10, 2012, 05:28:04 AM
The guy 2nd from the left was a future olympia competitor,guess who.

Looks like Serge Nubret


As a follow up....personally, I think the pics should be kept to 1990 and earlier...as soon as we hit the early-mid 90's...bodybuilding took a shit.  NOTHING should be posted of the likes of coleman, yates, cutler, etc.  Bunch of bloated messes....not taking away from them, but when compared to the guys of the 70's and 80's....no comparison.  I NEVER wanted to look anything like coleman or yates.  In fact, what did it for me was when I went to a bodybuilding show (one of the last ones I was at as a 'spectator') Cutler was there...and I saw how winded the fucker was just getting out of chair and walking up to stage and talking on podium....

I literally turned to my friend and said "what the fuck...is this really what bodybuilding is?"


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Post by: wes on February 10, 2012, 05:34:11 AM
Looks like Serge Nubret


As a follow up....personally, I think the pics should be kept to 1990 and earlier...as soon as we hit the early-mid 90's...bodybuilding took a shit.  NOTHING should be posted of the likes of coleman, yates, cutler, etc.  Bunch of bloated messes....not taking away from them, but when compared to the guys of the 70's and 80's....no comparison.  I NEVER wanted to look anything like coleman or yates.  In fact, what did it for me was when I went to a bodybuilding show (one of the last ones I was at as a 'spectator') Cutler was there...and I saw how winded the fucker was just getting out of chair and walking up to stage and talking on podium....

I literally turned to my friend and said "what the fuck...is this really what bodybuilding is?"
Good post Curt!


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Post by: wes on February 10, 2012, 05:38:36 AM
The guy 2nd from the left was a future olympia competitor,guess who.
Bernard Sealy ???


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Post by: WillGrant on February 10, 2012, 05:42:35 AM
Good post Curt!
Mine was better  ;D


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Post by: devilsmile on February 10, 2012, 05:44:04 AM
_

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=441672;image)

european women still look like those two women in general, but america has lost the consept of "feminine".. truly lost-IT, lol.

lol, an old warehouse I worked in few years back even had cleaners who looked like those women :D


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Post by: wes on February 10, 2012, 05:44:23 AM
Mine was better  ;D
IT WAS NOT DAMMIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 06:24:11 AM
Bernard Sealy ???

Not Bernard and not Serge,if you look at the banner behind them you should get a clue.


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Post by: RS on February 10, 2012, 06:36:28 AM
vinny,mark,serge,franco.....

Seriously - look at how deeply etched Serge's abs are?!!  I'll bet he is like 55+ years in in this shot. None of the pros these days even try to get peeled like this - probably cause they can't with the boatload of shit they are taking. They probably don't even know how to diet.  I'm mean look @ that shit - he's just shredded. I took this pic from page 33 of this thread.

And let me add - great thread!!  Many thx to the thread starter - brings me back to the old days when we had just some of the best  - focused training days.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on February 10, 2012, 06:41:56 AM
Not Bernard and not Serge,if you look at the banner behind them you should get a clue.
I looked up the 1980 Mr. Britian on musclememory.com to no avail.

Brian Buchanan ??


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on February 10, 2012, 07:05:59 AM
wes,krank,i know like older pre90 pics,,but mid ninties had some good amateur and pro's milos,,labrada was still there,shawn and all had great builds ,,d newman yeah more heavy and 'all drug's look but still great builds,and i posted pics of all the mro's in some type of order few pages back to show progression of where bbing went good and bad.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 08:15:22 AM
I looked up the 1980 Mr. Britian on musclememory.com to no avail.

Brian Buchanan ??

sorry Wes,not Brian,and this was the novice class at the mr Britain.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on February 10, 2012, 08:25:13 AM
theirry pastel? just a wild guess.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on February 10, 2012, 08:28:23 AM
theirry pastel? just a wild guess.
or charles clairmont? 2 nd wild guess.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on February 10, 2012, 08:31:42 AM
or charles clairmont? 2 nd wild guess.
i think ur right.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on February 10, 2012, 08:37:58 AM
Thats right funk,here`s another pic of Charles when he was in the novice class.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on February 10, 2012, 09:00:36 AM
I knew it was Clairmonte,I just didn`t want to come off as a know it all !! 
::)














































;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on February 10, 2012, 09:01:42 AM
Good one Dave,I would have never guessed Clairmont.......in fact,I was gonna` guess Selwyn Cottrell or Wilf Sylvester!  :(


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: maxkane69 on February 10, 2012, 11:45:45 AM
Does anybody know when The Mecca (Gold's Gym Venice) will close for good??? ???


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: stuntmovie on February 10, 2012, 07:05:05 PM
Latest word I heard is that the local community is petitioning to get the new owners to extend the lease.

Apparently the Gold's Gym membership brings a lot of business to the neighborhood.



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on February 11, 2012, 10:50:05 AM
Tim,have you ever seen this pic of Sergio,just look at the size of him here,and i think this was from 1969.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: French on February 11, 2012, 12:20:56 PM
 8)



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Kaoz on February 11, 2012, 01:07:45 PM
 ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on February 13, 2012, 02:10:45 AM
#1018

Al Beckles?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on February 13, 2012, 07:46:30 AM
#1018

Al Beckles?
Yes


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on February 13, 2012, 09:29:39 AM
Tim,have you ever seen this pic of Sergio,just look at the size of him here,and i think this was from 1969.
Never saw it bud........looking monstrous!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: willie mosconi on February 13, 2012, 11:01:38 PM
Latest word I heard is that the local community is petitioning to get the new owners to extend the lease.

Apparently the Gold's Gym membership brings a lot of business to the neighborhood.



I really hope that it continues to exist. Still has the best equipment in the area


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on February 14, 2012, 06:53:58 AM
I really hope that it continues to exist. Still has the best equipment in the area
X2.....Maybe the best equipment in the USA!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on February 16, 2012, 11:05:41 AM
Remember when the olympians came onstage as a silhouette,and everyone had their own look.Lets have a few guess who`s.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on February 16, 2012, 11:06:47 AM
.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Straw Man on February 16, 2012, 11:10:23 AM
Corney
Robinson
Beckles
Ken Waller
Bill Grant
Boyer Coe


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on February 16, 2012, 11:11:46 AM
Corney
Robinson
Beckles
Ken Waller
Bill Grant
Boyer Coe
X 2


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on February 16, 2012, 11:12:46 AM
Shep,now try doing that with todays pros using their trademark pose for each pro.

OK,nevermind!   ;D


Title: Re: "The Mecca",When It Really Was "The Mecca"
Post by: uetone on February 16, 2012, 11:23:24 AM
8)

(http://www.n.kfd.pl/uploads/post-12970-1156774502.jpg)

(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/c/e/ceb01-FrancoColumbu244.jpg)

(http://www.biojiem.com/Imagenes/Mr%20jaguar%2008/Roy%20velasco/Roy%20Columbu%20and%20Ed.JPG)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HbaApmpa-Po/SROswgEDhEI/AAAAAAAAAI0/vq4RqP8ZorY/s400/franco+deadlift.jpg)

Look how interesting, in the third photo has an advert on the wall that says: foods with high carbohydrate value: DON'T EAT! ... Reaffirming the old school  low carb high fat  diet!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on February 16, 2012, 11:28:18 AM
Well spotted guys,all correct,and you`re right Tim,every pro today would look the same in silhouette.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on February 16, 2012, 11:30:31 AM
Well spotted guys,all correct,and you`re right Tim,every pro today would look the same in silhouette.
Yup,and nobody has a trademark pose these days either.........all crab shots over and over while lifting their hand to their ear like Hulk Hogan!  ;D


:(


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on February 17, 2012, 07:16:33 AM
Wes.  Thank you for starting the greatest thread ever.  Thanks to other great posters too.
My pleasure bro!  ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Kaoz on February 17, 2012, 10:42:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVTlzZf18MU

70's + 80's = looked better and POSE better!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on February 18, 2012, 09:51:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVTlzZf18MU

70's + 80's = looked better and POSE better!
These guys practiced posing routines for hours at a time,many times per week.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 05:29:01 AM
(http://www.builtreport.com/gaspari/001.jpg)

(http://www.betterbodies1982.com/images/press/press08.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Samir%20Bannout/SamirBannout104.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 05:31:16 AM
 8)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/135/images/Matt_Mendenhall_52.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/138/images/Mike_Christian_photo5.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/135/images/Matt_Mendenhall_53.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 05:33:36 AM
 8)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/135/images/Matt_Mendenhall_48.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_g93bcGvgWBo/RbekflmiGiI/AAAAAAAAAMc/fSzeS5CATq0/s400/RichGaspari-Tu001.jpg)

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/mgreenland/RichGaspari.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: barbellman on March 20, 2012, 05:41:39 AM
Wow

look at how far bodybuilding has fallen

its unreal how shitty the guys look in today's bodybuilding scene


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 20, 2012, 05:46:58 AM
Look at gasparis side chest wes posted

How many of todays pros that outweigh him by 60lbs + have chests like that ?

Gaspari, mendenhall, labrada, christian, bannout... Now THAT is bbing


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 05:50:06 AM
Resurrecting this thread again to illustrate real bodybuilders for any noobs or younger guys who think that everyone looks like the blobs of today.

Hey,it beats arguing with trolls and gimmicks!  ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 20, 2012, 05:52:54 AM
Resurrecting this thread again to illustrate real bodybuilders for any noobs or younger guys who think that everyone looks like the blobs of today.

Hey,it beats arguing with trolls and gimmicks!  ;)

I saw that. I quickly followed suit.

Escape to nostalgia


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 05:54:30 AM
FRANCO SANTORIELLO !!  

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/deetrakt/SS/fsantoriello.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 05:55:19 AM
Escape to nostalgia
A great place to be at times...........especial ly lately!  ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 05:56:05 AM
This is an absolute great thread. Please keep it going.
Thanks man.....we will.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 06:00:09 AM
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/deetrakt/SS/dnnsnew2.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 06:25:26 AM
(http://www.cadillacevents.com/portraiture/images/08-Jose-Guzman_jpg.jpg)

(http://www.magnumpowerforcegym.bm/ron-magnum-half.jpg)

(http://www.magnumpowerforcegym.bm/champ%20double%20bicep.jpg)

(http://www.magnumpowerforcegym.bm/img1.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 06:33:44 AM
(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4025/jv_1-6-06l.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4025/jv_1-6-06c.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4025/jv_1-6-06b.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 06:36:02 AM
Here`s some pics of Joe Marino aka "Coach".........fucking guy looked great......still does!!

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4024/jv_01-05-06a.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4024/jv_01-05-06c.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4024/jv_01-05-06d.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4024/jv_01-05-06h.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 06:37:47 AM
(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4032/RW06.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4032/RW04.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4032/RW02.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 06:39:39 AM
JJ Marsh:

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4035/jv_1-9-06a.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4035/jv_1-9-06aa.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4035/jv_1-9-06aaa.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4035/jv_1-9-06b.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 06:41:07 AM
(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4035/jv_1-9-06bb.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4035/jv_1-9-06bbb.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4037/jv_1-10-06l.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4037/jv_1-10-06u.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 06:42:55 AM
Early Shawn Ray !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4036/jv_1-10-06a.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4036/jv_1-10-06b.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4036/jv_1-10-06c.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4036/jv_1-10-06d.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 06:43:43 AM
(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/competitors/4036/jv_1-10-06e.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 20, 2012, 07:27:01 AM
(http://www.cadillacevents.com/portraiture/images/08-Jose-Guzman_jpg.jpg)

(http://www.magnumpowerforcegym.bm/ron-magnum-half.jpg)

(http://www.magnumpowerforcegym.bm/champ%20double%20bicep.jpg)

(http://www.magnumpowerforcegym.bm/img1.jpg)

Jose guzman at top

Who is the guy below him?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 07:28:48 AM
That`s Ron Magnum........met him years ago in Mass.

Franco was guest poser at a show he won and was amazed at this kid build.

This was in the movie Pumping Iron when Franco popped the hot water bottle.



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 20, 2012, 07:31:05 AM
FRANCO SANTORIELLO !!  

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/deetrakt/SS/fsantoriello.jpg)
all cybergenics!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 20, 2012, 07:38:20 AM
The guy below JJ Marsh,is it Bill Burney.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 07:41:07 AM
Hey Shep,if you have any old school pics,post them up if you get the time.  ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 20, 2012, 07:47:28 AM
Brian Buchanan aged 20.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 20, 2012, 07:49:21 AM
Brian again aged 20,same age as Vince Brown (on the left side,with a Sergio like shape).


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 20, 2012, 07:50:18 AM
Brian.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 20, 2012, 07:53:44 AM
Just a reminder of what the women in the sport looked back in the 70s/80s.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 20, 2012, 07:55:16 AM
Dave,Sandra and Bertil.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 20, 2012, 07:57:34 AM
Ron and Bill


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 20, 2012, 08:00:40 AM
Tony Emmott


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 20, 2012, 08:02:49 AM
Vince Brown


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 20, 2012, 08:05:13 AM
Zane


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 20, 2012, 08:08:27 AM
My ideal gym,Zuvers gym.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 09:49:43 AM
Thanks Shep............awesome pics!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on March 20, 2012, 10:10:43 AM
Outstanding pics......much thanks!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 10:15:13 AM
New to Getbig. Thanks, Wes! This thread is much more than nostalgia, it reminds us of how far the "sport" has fallen from its ideal form (i.e., soul). Thanks, again.
No problem,welcome to the board.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 20, 2012, 11:11:12 AM
Tim,just watch this video,the best contest i have ever been to watch as Tom Platz was the guest star,only a few months after surgery on his bicep.And you see Linkie Wilson,my old training partner,one of the biggest backs ever seen onstage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_By3oB-j9Y0


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 20, 2012, 11:39:38 AM
New to Getbig. Thanks, Wes! This thread is much more than nostalgia, it reminds us of how far the "sport" has fallen from its ideal form (i.e., soul). Thanks, again.
nothing wrong with nostalgia

I feel bbing died in the mid 90s

Except of course for the great branch warren


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 11:43:43 AM
Wow......Chavez and Wilson looked great!

Linkies back was a bit reminiscant of Haneys!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 11:44:27 AM
nothing wrong with nostalgia

I feel bbing died in the mid 90s

Except of course for the great branch warren

I was gonna` post a puke pic but don`t wanna` mess up the thread!  :D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 20, 2012, 11:50:49 AM
Wow......Chavez and Wilson looked great!

Linkies back was a bit reminiscant of Haneys!

Thats what Ron Love said to him in 1992,Ron was here for the grand prix and couldn`t believe linkie didn`t have a pro card.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 11:54:02 AM
Thats what Ron Love said to him in 1992,Ron was here for the grand prix and couldn`t believe linkie didn`t have a pro card.
It`s sad that so many great bodybuilders never got a card,and then there are others who got a card and did nothing with it!  :(


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 20, 2012, 11:55:51 AM
.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on March 20, 2012, 11:57:34 AM
I just thought of something.    when Steve Reeves competed against John Grimek, one of the reasons he lost was that his waist was TOO SMALL!!!   lmao. talk about swinging full circle.  the AAU was running things, and the mr. America was kinda like a side show to the weightlifting competition, and they said Steve just didn't look strong enough!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 12:01:48 PM
I just thought of something.    when Steve Reeves competed against John Grimek, one of the reasons he lost was that his waist was TOO SMALL!!!   lmao. talk about swinging full circle.  the AAU was running things, and the mr. America was kinda like a side show to the weightlifting competition, and they said Steve just didn't look strong enough!!
Back in those days,they had an interview,weightlifting contest,and you had to present yourself in a respectful manner..........none of which should have mattered in the physique portion of the contest.

Besides,Grimek was a York man and it was as political then as it is today.

Gotta` laugh at the waist being too small though............how ironic is that these days?  :D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on March 20, 2012, 12:06:11 PM
Back in those days,they had an interview,weightlifting contest,and you had to present yourself in a respectful manner..........none of which should have mattered in the physique portion of the contest.

Besides,Grimek was a York man and it was as political then as it is today.

Gotta` laugh at the waist being too small though............how ironic is that these days?  :D

yup, pretty funny.   i scanned some pics from old vids of me in the 90's, and wasn't gonna post em because all the nut huggers would tell me what i took. but i don't think they check this thread, so i may post some here if that's alright.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 20, 2012, 12:11:16 PM
It`s sad that so many great bodybuilders never got a card,and then there are others who got a card and did nothing with it!  :(

Tim,just to give you an idea how big Linkie got,watch till the very end of this video.Its a local show in my town,and all the class winners are onstage,and Dorian was the guest poser,its from 1990.Then Linkie walks onstage,and look at the size of him compared to Dorian,keep in mind also he was 6"2 tall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZykGKDLJYY


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 12:22:52 PM
Tim,just to give you an idea how big Linkie got,watch till the very end of this video.Its a local show in my town,and all the class winners are onstage,and Dorian was the guest poser,its from 1990.Then Linkie walks onstage,and look at the size of him compared to Dorian,keep in mind also he was 6"2 tall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZykGKDLJYY
He was friggin` huge!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: roc on March 20, 2012, 04:37:24 PM
these photos are incredible wes!!!!! great job!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 04:54:00 PM
Thanks roc !!  :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Cableguy on March 20, 2012, 04:54:45 PM
Dave,Sandra and Bertil.

Think I have this magazine!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 04:56:19 PM
.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/TAO6iXA4jVI/AAAAAAAAHp4/1-doF_5bF48/s400/Darryl-Stafford.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/TAO6h1IKRHI/AAAAAAAAHpw/oEd_vEnskzY/s400/Darryl-Stafford-4.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/TAO6I0WvlhI/AAAAAAAAHo4/-0KdcNTx_T0/s400/Dave-Fisher.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/TAO6IuiUviI/AAAAAAAAHow/j1_GARTHoV8/s400/Dave-Fisher-1.bmp)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Cableguy on March 20, 2012, 04:59:12 PM
nothing wrong with nostalgia

I feel bbing died in the mid 90s

Except of course for the great branch warren


Totally agree...I used to be inspired. Now I'm mostly disgusted and dissapointed. Everytime I see someone like Branch I just get pissed off at how far bodybuilding has fallen... :(


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Cableguy on March 20, 2012, 05:00:48 PM
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/TAO6iXA4jVI/AAAAAAAAHp4/1-doF_5bF48/s400/Darryl-Stafford.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/TAO6h1IKRHI/AAAAAAAAHpw/oEd_vEnskzY/s400/Darryl-Stafford-4.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/TAO6I0WvlhI/AAAAAAAAHo4/-0KdcNTx_T0/s400/Dave-Fisher.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/TAO6IuiUviI/AAAAAAAAHow/j1_GARTHoV8/s400/Dave-Fisher-1.bmp)

Cool shots of Daryl and Dave.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 05:00:53 PM
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S_v-lpca2OI/AAAAAAAAHi8/sck_PZgZ4qU/s400/Derrick-Whitsett.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S_v-lGghk7I/AAAAAAAAHi0/qdH-dyvkyH0/s400/Derrick-Whitsett-1.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S-gKZ75hZlI/AAAAAAAAHQ8/q1PKGNwPVUE/s400/Eric-Otero.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S9Wg2isM97I/AAAAAAAAHHs/hliWiA7feAI/s400/Frank-Hillebrand.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Cableguy on March 20, 2012, 05:02:33 PM
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S_v-lpca2OI/AAAAAAAAHi8/sck_PZgZ4qU/s400/Derrick-Whitsett.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S_v-lGghk7I/AAAAAAAAHi0/qdH-dyvkyH0/s400/Derrick-Whitsett-1.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S-gKZ75hZlI/AAAAAAAAHQ8/q1PKGNwPVUE/s400/Eric-Otero.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S9Wg2isM97I/AAAAAAAAHHs/hliWiA7feAI/s400/Frank-Hillebrand.jpg)

I've always liked Frank Hillebrand's physique.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 05:04:30 PM
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S82dgKOFq4I/AAAAAAAAG6I/tU7FmTn8DKI/s1600/Greg-DeFerro-1.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S82dgSjUoEI/AAAAAAAAG6Q/nsVdDxvC-KY/s400/Greg-DeFerro-2.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/Szkitm8pmPI/AAAAAAAACS0/02N7TSpEBns/s1600/Steve-Creighton-4.bmp)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/Szkiv-2rrgI/AAAAAAAACS8/tkk0PukOcV4/s1600/Steve-Creighton.bmp)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 05:06:45 PM
Hillebrand looked great.

Sadly,Whitsett,Otero,and Deferro are all dead now.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: dr.chimps on March 20, 2012, 05:09:10 PM
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S82dgKOFq4I/AAAAAAAAG6I/tU7FmTn8DKI/s1600/Greg-DeFerro-1.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S82dgSjUoEI/AAAAAAAAG6Q/nsVdDxvC-KY/s400/Greg-DeFerro-2.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/Szkitm8pmPI/AAAAAAAACS0/02N7TSpEBns/s1600/Steve-Creighton-4.bmp)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/Szkiv-2rrgI/AAAAAAAACS8/tkk0PukOcV4/s1600/Steve-Creighton.bmp)
Greg DeFerro?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 05:09:44 PM
Yup,that`s Deferro !


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: zodiac on March 20, 2012, 05:12:17 PM
Awesome thread..thanks for taking the time to put those up..I love looking and studying those pics..it was really something else back then.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: dr.chimps on March 20, 2012, 05:13:32 PM
Yup,that`s Deferro !
I want to say Rocky. Same guy?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 05:15:22 PM
I want to say Rocky. Same guy?
Greg "Rocky" DeFerro.....same guy,dead now but I forgot how he passed away.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 05:16:11 PM
Awesome thread..thanks for taking the time to put those up..I love looking and studying those pics..it was really something else back then.
Hey,glad you like the thread bro!

Shows us just how far we haven`t come.  :(


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Old School Trainer on March 20, 2012, 05:51:19 PM
I think his ticker quite on him finally.  Complete nut job when he tried to make his master's comeback.  Looked liked he was about 20-years older then his real age.  He was married and divorced from a female that I think was in law enforcement and we kept have to make him leave the gym when she was there due to the restraining order.  He had a gym that the bank locked up the doors one night after he went of desperate midnight sale of selling discounted paid in full memberships.  He had really good arm genetics but couldn't survive one of my workouts back in the day.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on March 20, 2012, 06:00:41 PM
THANX WES,,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 06:02:21 PM
THANX WES,,,,
Thank you too man.............I like it when you take over.........gives me a rest! :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 06:04:19 PM
I think his ticker quite on him finally.  Complete nut job when he tried to make his master's comeback.  Looked liked he was about 20-years older then his real age.  He was married and divorced from a female that I think was in law enforcement and we kept have to make him leave the gym when she was there due to the restraining order.  He had a gym that the bank locked up the doors one night after he went of desperate midnight sale of selling discounted paid in full memberships.  He had really good arm genetics but couldn't survive one of my workouts back in the day.
One of the gym owners where I trained at,had a $99.00 membership for year.......after making a killing,he moved a ton of equipment out one night and closed down the fucking gym.

Lots of people still looking for him,and a couple that found him were not very nice to him at all.   :D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Old School Trainer on March 20, 2012, 06:20:45 PM
I was a PT at the local Gold's Gym and Greg stood right in front of counter before a workout right after the Master's Mr. O that was in Atlanta and told everyone that he took like 3rd place right behind Big Lou.  The owner and I went to the show and he saw us there.  Greg had some type of problem and showed up to pre-judging late so the judges didn't even let him compete in the night show.  He was allowed to guest pose.  What a tool!  We both cracked the hell up.  He did look good when he almost won the NOC competing with Haney a decade earlier.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 20, 2012, 06:31:37 PM
I was a PT at the local Gold's Gym and Greg stood right in front of counter before a workout right after the Master's Mr. O that was in Atlanta and told everyone that he took like 3rd place right behind Big Lou.  The owner and I went to the show and he saw us there.  Greg had some type of problem and showed up to pre-judging late so the judges didn't even let him compete in the night show.  He was allowed to guest pose.  What a tool!  We both cracked the hell up.  He did look good when he almost won the NOC competing with Haney a decade earlier.
I remember that Masters Mr. O.........why lie,especially when you guys knew and others would find out?

Some fucking nuts in this game ,that`s for sure!  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 21, 2012, 02:55:31 AM
Greg also did the pre-judging in the 83 british gp but didn`t show up for the night time show.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 21, 2012, 03:20:52 AM
I was a PT at the local Gold's Gym and Greg stood right in front of counter before a workout right after the Master's Mr. O that was in Atlanta and told everyone that he took like 3rd place right behind Big Lou.  The owner and I went to the show and he saw us there.  Greg had some type of problem and showed up to pre-judging late so the judges didn't even let him compete in the night show.  He was allowed to guest pose.  What a tool!  We both cracked the hell up.  He did look good when he almost won the NOC competing with Haney a decade earlier.
did he have a drinking problem?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: TrueGrit on March 21, 2012, 05:00:43 AM
 Great thread.

 They should get a division going that tries to replicate the physiques of this era. I'm not talking men's physique or crap like that. I mean something that directly and unashamedly is going after the Zane, Arnold, Serge, Robbie, Bertil look... and actually rewards it.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Parker on March 21, 2012, 05:11:27 AM
Great thread.

 They should get a division going that tries to replicate the physiques of this era. I'm not talking men's physique or crap like that. I mean something that directly and unashamedly is going after the Zane, Arnold, Serge, Robbie, Bertil look... and actually rewards it.
Didnt they try that with the "Classical" thing, and that Mr. Universe dude who is always doing vacuum shots in Universal ads?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 21, 2012, 05:50:16 AM
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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on March 21, 2012, 06:21:32 AM
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Well, it's taken some time, but my Legends of Bodybuilding interview with Jeff King is finally appearing in the May issue of Iron Man. Not only is this the first interview Jeff's done in almost twenty years, it has great photo support!

I'm so glad this is going to see print. Jeff is a great guy, and this is the third (and hopefully, best) interview we've done together.



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 06:39:02 AM
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All those were taken at Big Daddys Gym Springfield Mass.

Rick Britt gym owner spotting King and then Mr. Universe contestant Rick Sampson spotting him.

The pic of King posing was put online by yours truly and never before seen except by me and my buddy who took the pic.

Here`s another pic of Jeff squatting being spotted by WABBA Mr. World Rich Roy.............great days!!

Thanks Figo....gotta` save those bad boys!  ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: The Greek Wolf on March 21, 2012, 06:45:54 AM
All those were taken at Big Daddys Gym Springfield Mass.

Rick Britt gym owner spotting King and then Mr. Universe contestant Rick Sampson spotting him.

The pic of King posing was put online by yours truly and never before seen except by me and my buddy who took the pic.

Here`s another pic of Jeff squatting being spotted by WABBA Mr. World Rich Roy.............great days!!

Thanks Figo....gotta` save those bad boys!  ;)
I love the knee wraps...lol...did those knee wraps come with matching bra and panties? Lol...lift raw, or get a new hobby.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: falco on March 21, 2012, 06:47:06 AM
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/FilipeFalcao/4c1f7263.jpg)

(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/FilipeFalcao/5c390ab8.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 06:49:04 AM
I love the knee wraps...lol...did those knee wraps come with matching bra and panties? Lol...lift raw, or get a new hobby.
He won the Collegiate Mr. America
Mr. America
Mr. Universe

You tell him trollboy!!
::)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: The Greek Wolf on March 21, 2012, 06:50:38 AM
He won the Collegiate Mr. America
Mr. America
Mr. Universe

You tell him trollboy!!
::)
All the showy gym muscles in the world can't stop a good right hook.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 06:52:07 AM
Some of the guys I came up with back in the day!



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 06:53:49 AM
More old friends!!



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 06:55:30 AM
More pics!





Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: The Greek Wolf on March 21, 2012, 07:09:21 AM
Man, you guys got it made. Imagine being able to sit around all day and admire pictures of men? Unfortunately for me I have a business to run. When The children started coming along I had to choose to be an adult. Lol...I'm lucky to get twenty minutes to myself to bang out a few sets on the weight bench in my basement. Lol.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 21, 2012, 07:37:19 AM
Jeff King


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 21, 2012, 07:38:23 AM
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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 21, 2012, 07:39:07 AM
All those were taken at Big Daddys Gym Springfield Mass.

Rick Britt gym owner spotting King and then Mr. Universe contestant Rick Sampson spotting him.

The pic of King posing was put online by yours truly and never before seen except by me and my buddy who took the pic.

Here`s another pic of Jeff squatting being spotted by WABBA Mr. World Rich Roy.............great days!!

Thanks Figo....gotta` save those bad boys!  ;)

Cool Wes!

Do I owe you money for infringing copyright?

Did you know jeff king well ?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 21, 2012, 07:42:53 AM
I was wondering when some frustrated little trolling fuck nut would come along

Predictably enough, one did!

It was just far too positive...


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 07:42:59 AM
Cool Wes!

Do I owe you money for infringing copyright?

Did you know jeff king well ?
Yes,you owe me $ 30,000.00 !!  ;D

I`ve known Jeff since he was a teenager........moved from N.J. to my hometown to attend Springfield College........then he moved to Missouri and now lives back in Mass.

Really one of the nicest people you could ever meet.

I know it sounds like a cliche`,but he would always help anyone out as long as it wasn`t during his training which obviously,he took very serious.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 07:44:55 AM
I was wondering when some frustrated little trolling fuck nut would come along

Predictably enough, one did!

It was just far too positive...

That idiot would fuck up a wet dream!  :(


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 07:46:27 AM
Great pics Shep...............savin g them........you sent me some of these years ago but I had to buy a new PC and lost them.

Thanks bud!  ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 21, 2012, 07:51:50 AM
Great pics Shep...............savin g them........you sent me some of these years ago but I had to buy a new PC and lost them.

Thanks bud!  ;)

Haha,i just found out,i lost all my pics when my old computer died so i just went on ironage to look for these and read that you had lost the pics i sent to you,so i thought i`d put them back on here for you.
Saw Richard Roy guest pose in a local contest here in the UK in 85,he weighed about 250lbs and was monstrous,and only about 5"7 tall as well.The thing i noticed with all the top AAU guys in the 80s was the similar leg shape they all had,wonder if it was down to doing front squats with the heeels on a board.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 21, 2012, 07:52:44 AM
Yes,you owe me $ 30,000.00 !!  ;D

I`ve known Jeff since he was a teenager........moved from N.J. to my hometown to attend Springfield College........then he moved to Missouri and now lives back in Mass.

Really one of the nicest people you could ever meet.

I know it sounds like a cliche`,but he would always help anyone out as long as it wasn`t during his training which obviously,he took very serious.

Share some stories!

Do you think he couldve been a threat to the O had he moved over?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: flinstones1 on March 21, 2012, 07:55:40 AM
More pics!





that last picture is the very reason I will never train my neck. Looks rediculous...a thick neck is good but that just looks retarted. Speaking of necks...Wierd thing about levrone, how can a guy on so many drugs have a neck so small.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 07:57:52 AM
Share some stories!

Do you think he couldve been a threat to the O had he moved over?

In 1983 he won the America,and Haney won the Olympia................. .hard to say how he would have done as he improved,but I sure don`t think he would have been out of place on the Olympia stage.

Guy trained hard,heavy,and never missed a day unless he was sick of course............traine d heavy,but never went nuts as his form was impeccable.

Chris Aceto learned a lot from him as he also attended Springfield College at the same time.

The gym we trained at was huge and had glass all around the front and went around the corner...........so many animals trained there at the same time that the widows would get fogged up in both winter or summer at times.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: The Greek Wolf on March 21, 2012, 08:01:59 AM
Springfield is a shithole.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 21, 2012, 08:20:34 AM
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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 21, 2012, 08:23:10 AM
In 1983 he won the America,and Haney won the Olympia................. .hard to say how he would have done as he improved,but I sure don`t think he would have been out of place on the Olympia stage.

Guy trained hard,heavy,and never missed a day unless he was sick of course............traine d heavy,but never went nuts as his form was impeccable.

Chris Aceto learned a lot from him as he also attended Springfield College at the same time.

The gym we trained at was huge and had glass all around the front and went around the corner...........so many animals trained there at the same time that the widows would get fogged up in both winter or summer at times.

You knew this was coming...

Hypothetically speaking, let's say king juiced, what would you say a typical cycle would be?
 ;D

Aceto was still coming up then, young?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 08:27:15 AM
You knew this was coming...

Hypothetically speaking, let's say king juiced, what would you say a typical cycle would be?
 ;D

Aceto was still coming up then, young?
I honestly have no idea what Jeff used but I`m sure it was about the standard type of cycle for the time........maybe more or less........I wish I could tell you more.

Yes,Aceto was young,as was future Mr. American Matt Dufresne............Matt also won the Mr. USa as well as the NABBA Universe.

A real sight to see was Artie Prince pictured in my last few posts......he was huge and walking from Springfield College up the hill to get to the gym,he would be walking his 10 speed bike which looked like a tricycle compared to him,and would be followed by a ton of little kids asking him all about his muscles.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 21, 2012, 08:35:51 AM
Yes, I remember Dufresne won round same time as Victor Terra

Also same gym?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 08:39:32 AM
Yes, I remember Dufresne won round same time as Victor Terra

Also same gym?

No Terra was from around Boston.....we were from Western Mass.,other side of the state about 1/2 hour from Hartford Conn.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 21, 2012, 08:40:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6k98_sIfyk


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 08:49:34 AM
Great video Shep..........I met Doug Brignole last year at the Masters Nats.........nice guy and we now keep in touch.

Doug still looks great!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 21, 2012, 08:49:58 AM
No Terra was from around Boston.....we were from Western Mass.,other side of the state about 1/2 hour from Hartford Conn.
I meant matt dufresne, he was also in springfield with you guys?.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 08:54:14 AM
I meant matt dufresne, he was also in springfield with you guys?.
Yup,Matt was a skinny kid who used to date the gym owners daughter..........saw King and a few of the guys,started training,and the rest is history.

When I moved back to Massachusettes from Florida in the early 90`s,I had $20.00 in my pocket..........I called Matt up,who had opened his own branch of Golds Gym,told him I was broke but needed to train,he said no problem,never charged me a dime.

Lots of people used to rag on him saying he was stuck up and egotistical,but he was always cool with me and my two twin cousins who I trained with.

I still shoot the shit with him here and there on Facebook.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 21, 2012, 09:02:43 AM
Yup,Matt was a skinny kid who used to date the gym owners daughter..........saw King and a few of the guys,started training,and the rest is history.

When I moved back to Massachusettes from Florida in the early 90`s,I had $20.00 in my pocket..........I called Matt up,who had opened his own branch of Golds Gym,told him I was broke but needed to train,he said no problem,never charged me a dime.

Lots of people used to rag on him saying he was stuck up and egotistical,but he was always cool with me and my two twin cousins who I trained with.

I still shoot the shit with him here and there on Facebook.

Fantastic

Training around monsters like that and top competitors, as a young guy did you feel inspired, or think "fuck , these guys aren't human!" ?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 09:07:16 AM
Another King related story:

Back in 1987,me and my two cousins decided to enter a contest the gym owner Rick Britt was putting on.

They would both enter the Teenage Mr. Region 1,and I was entering the Mr. Springfield contest.

I hadn`t trained in quite a while due to my then bad drinking habit.

I went back to the gym and was benching 95 pounds for a hard set of 8 reps.............6 months later I was putting up 300 pounds at 150 pounds bodyweight.

anyway,King knew how terrible I had looked previously and hadn`t seen me for a long time.

King was also the guest posewr and trophy presenter at the show.

One of my cousins took his class and the other one who was fucking shredded to the bone placed second to a big bulky soft huge kid....................w hen King gave my cousin the second place trophy,as he walked off the stage he slapped the fat kid on the ass and says......."Nice job fatass" !!

Fucking King went nuts,....."Wes what`s wrong with your cousin........tell him to cool down" !!

Fucking hilarious............... ..my cousins were very competitive,played a lot of spoirts and excelled at all of them,but they were young and not very good losers.

I placed fourth in my class and when King gave me my trophy,he whispered.........."Thank God for muscle memory and hard work huh Wes?"

It was a proud moment for me as I always looked up to Jeff.................... .......sounds corny but I actually got choked up knowing how hard I worked to get back into decent shape after falling down so far.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 21, 2012, 09:08:15 AM
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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on March 21, 2012, 09:10:46 AM
wes is awesome and was in the aau hotbed area for top bbers mass,,,funny that gruskin had the  ;) for talent cause they all had same look,big legs,conditioned tenfold,short to med height with great shape,gruskin dressed like a hobo and disheveled.terra,brignole,king,dufrense,pete miller,deangelis,scarcella,barretta all few great aau guys,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 21, 2012, 09:12:50 AM
Thanks for sharing Wes, great story

How old were you guys then? You, your cousins and King?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 09:12:58 AM
Fantastic

Training around monsters like that and top competitors, as a young guy did you feel inspired, or think "fuck , these guys aren't human!" ?

Man,I loved it.............always liked to train hard and the atmosphere just demanded it at all times.

We had:
2 Mr. Americas
1 Mr. World
2 Mr. Universes
about 6-7 Mr. America contestants (not winners)
3 Mr. Universe contestants (not winners)
tons of local,national,and regional contestants
lots of new female bodybuilders
lots of great powerlifters(700 pound squats and deads were almost commonplce)
3 World Champion arm wrestlers
A few other guys that placed in the Jr. Nats as well as a few Masters contest winners/

In `83,Big Daddys Gym was voted the number 1 gym in the country two years in a row,

If you didn`t train hard,you just didn`t rate..........if you looked like dogshit but gave it your all,everyone respected you.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 09:14:01 AM
Thanks for sharing Wes, great story

How old were you guys then? You, your cousins and King?
I was about 25,my cousins were 18,and King was probably 21 or so.......not really too sure.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 09:16:17 AM
wes is awesome and was in the aau hotbed area for top bbers mass,,,funny that gruskin had the  ;) for talent cause they all had same look,big legs,conditioned tenfold,short to med height with great shape,gruskin dressed like a hobo and disheveled.terra,brignole,king,dufrense,pete miller,deangelis,scarcella,barretta all few great aau guys,,,
Gruskin still dresses like that bro!!  ;D

I see him at the NABBA Nats........looks really old but very coherant.

Those days as everyone likes to parrot,were truly great as the camaraderie was amazing..........everybo dy helping everybody else out,and encouraging each other to do one more rep or add another plate to the bar.

You won`t see that anymore!


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Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 09:16:58 AM
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Big Daddys Gym baby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 21, 2012, 09:45:19 AM
Always thought Matt Dufresne had the proportions of a tall class guy,he never looked a short guy.He`s someone else i would have loved to have seen in the Olympia.Just sent you a friend request  on facebook Tim.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 09:53:42 AM
Always thought Matt Dufresne had the proportions of a tall class guy,he never looked a short guy.He`s someone else i would have loved to have seen in the Olympia.Just sent you a friend request  on facebook Tim.
Cool,I`ll approve it today Shep...............I don`t hit FB too much lately,more of an off and on thing for me.

EDIT: We are now friends Shep !!  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 21, 2012, 09:57:46 AM
Great,now we can tell each other important things like what we had for breakfast,haha.Only found out on facebook last week that the next door neighbour had died,no fucker talks anymore.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 10:14:55 AM
Great,now we can tell each other important things like what we had for breakfast,haha.Only found out on facebook last week that the next door neighbour had died,no fucker talks anymore.
That about sums it up!  LOL  ;D


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Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 10:15:46 AM
Hey Shep,you ever talk to Jeff Preston lately?

I haven`t in a while,but I gotta` give him a call one of these days soon.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 21, 2012, 10:35:10 AM
Not since you guys left ironage,i registered on his new site but couldn`t log on for some reason.Miss the good old days over there.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 21, 2012, 10:38:17 AM
Not since you guys left ironage,i registered on his new site but couldn`t log on for some reason.Miss the good old days over there.

Wes,

Why did you guys leave IA, and what's the new site?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 21, 2012, 10:41:35 AM
I missed Ironage too but when it wasn't fun anymore so it was time to leave. It started to feel like I wasn't welcome there so I moved on.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 11:24:42 AM
Not since you guys left ironage,i registered on his new site but couldn`t log on for some reason.Miss the good old days over there.
I had no idea,assumed you still posted there.

Wes,

Why did you guys leave IA, and what's the new site?
we left because Jeff and Ken who contributed a lot to the board were looked at by some as an afterthought............ ...there`s a bit more to it,but that`s about it in a nutshell.

New Site:
http://www.raw-iron.com

I missed Ironage too but when it wasn't fun anymore so it was time to leave. It started to feel like I wasn't welcome there so I moved on.
Same here actually.

It was good while it lasted though.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Old School Trainer on March 21, 2012, 03:09:53 PM
Sat right behind Jeff and Richie B. at the Mr. America in Atlantic City when Robby Harrop destroyed everyone in his class including one of my friends.  Thought the show was his until Joe D. flexed those big old arms and pecs of his.  Amazing how Joe would seem to be weeks out and then just barely dial things in right into prejudging and the night show.  Got a bunch of pics of those guys that I'll try to post on this thread if I can remember how.  Jeff King was one of my favorite guys back in the day.  The old Atilis Gym in Wildwood NJ had a bunch of giant posters of AAU guys and lots of pros on the walls done very nicely.  Super motivating.  Platz leg shots, Beckles biceps, Gaspari in his prime.  Barretta winning the America.  I'd train for like 4 hours straight and crawl out of there with nothing left on the table. 


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 03:12:55 PM
Sat right behind Jeff and Richie B. at the Mr. America in Atlantic City when Robby Harrop destroyed everyone in his class including one of my friends.  Thought the show was his until Joe D. flexed those big old arms and pecs of his.  Amazing how Joe would seem to be weeks out and then just barely dial things in right into prejudging and the night show.  Got a bunch of pics of those guys that I'll try to post on this thread if I can remember how.  Jeff King was one of my favorite guys back in the day.  The old Atilis Gym in Wildwood NJ had a bunch of giant posters of AAU guys and lots of pros on the walls done very nicely.  Super motivating.  Platz leg shots, Beckles biceps, Gaspari in his prime.  Barretta winning the America.  I'd train for like 4 hours straight and crawl out of there with nothing left on the table. 
I`d love to see those pics if you can dig them up.

I liked a lot of the AAU guys.....too bad they never got the exposure that they deserved.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Old School Trainer on March 21, 2012, 03:32:18 PM
Wes, I completely agree.  Being from South Jersey all the NPC action was hours away up in North Jersey, thus I was brought up more on the AAU side.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 03:40:20 PM
Wes, I completely agree.  Being from South Jersey all the NPC action was hours away up in North Jersey, thus I was brought up more on the AAU side.
Lots of great bb`ers out of N.J.

Frank Wainwright
Jeff King
Franco Santiriello
Richie Baretta
Dwayne Broadway
Joe Dodd
Ken DiAngelo
John Kemper
Bill Grant

Etc. Etc.


Back in the day the 5 hotbeds of bodybuilding were:
NYC
New Jersey
Massachusettes
Santa Monica/L.A.
Flrida


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: TrueGrit on March 21, 2012, 04:09:47 PM
Didnt they try that with the "Classical" thing, and that Mr. Universe dude who is always doing vacuum shots in Universal ads?

 I don't know. Seems like a good idea but I guess once it reached the point of putting on more muscle than a frame can aesthetically handle, there is no going back..


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on March 21, 2012, 07:06:19 PM
Sat right behind Jeff and Richie B. at the Mr. America in Atlantic City when Robby Harrop destroyed everyone in his class including one of my friends.  Thought the show was his until Joe D. flexed those big old arms and pecs of his.  Amazing how Joe would seem to be weeks out and then just barely dial things in right into prejudging and the night show.  Got a bunch of pics of those guys that I'll try to post on this thread if I can remember how.  Jeff King was one of my favorite guys back in the day.  The old Atilis Gym in Wildwood NJ had a bunch of giant posters of AAU guys and lots of pros on the walls done very nicely.  Super motivating.  Platz leg shots, Beckles biceps, Gaspari in his prime.  Barretta winning the America.  I'd train for like 4 hours straight and crawl out of there with nothing left on the table. 
i did the south jersey in 90's atilis gym promoted it,,,cool gym.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 07:08:00 PM
i did the south jersey in 90's atilis gym promoted it,,,cool gym.
I did the South Jersey in 2001...........Paul Kendricks promoted it.

How`d you place bro?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on March 21, 2012, 07:10:08 PM
I did the South Jersey in 2001...........Paul Kendricks promoted it.

How`d you place bro?
3rd open middleweights...


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 21, 2012, 07:39:31 PM
3rd open middleweights...
Cool............way to go,very tough contest with lots of competitors.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on March 22, 2012, 07:27:29 AM
Cool............way to go,very tough contest with lots of competitors.
yeah had good rep in 80'90's good title to get,,,mr new jersey is the best title overall,,aau had mr new jersey as well my diet guru had that one.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 22, 2012, 07:38:18 AM
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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 22, 2012, 07:43:07 AM
Great shots Figo.........don`t believe I`ve ever seen any of those,if I have,it`s been a helluva` long time.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 22, 2012, 09:01:02 AM
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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 22, 2012, 09:03:23 AM
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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 22, 2012, 09:04:44 AM
Gunnar Rosbo.......totally underated bodybuilder!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 22, 2012, 09:06:12 AM
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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 22, 2012, 09:07:41 AM
Never saw that ab + thigh shot before.......looks damn good there!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 22, 2012, 09:08:53 AM
Gunnar Rosbo.......totally underated bodybuilder!
coulda made damage if he couldve brought up his arms a bit, especially forearms


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 22, 2012, 09:10:10 AM
coulda made damage if he couldve brought up his arms a bit, especially forearms
;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 22, 2012, 09:12:12 AM
;D

People say they were 20 inches!

 Don't know if they were or not, but they were unbelievable


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 22, 2012, 09:18:58 AM
People say they were 20 inches!

 Don't know if they were or not, but they were unbelievable

Some of the best guns and crazy ass forearm development ever.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 22, 2012, 09:21:07 AM
(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=682.0;attach=3559;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=682.0;attach=3556;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=682.0;attach=3561;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=682.0;attach=3564;image)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 22, 2012, 09:22:41 AM
(http://bilder.egmont.se/cache/6d/6df8/6df816c25e32625a5469c49bfa0ed2908229de88)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 22, 2012, 09:25:16 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=253640.0;attach=294998;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=253640.0;attach=295001;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=253640.0;attach=295300;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=253640.0;attach=295301;image)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on March 22, 2012, 09:41:00 AM
builds are timeless ,,,built on training,anabolics that were prime grade and available at the time.anybody who can't appreciate the builds here are nuts.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 22, 2012, 09:45:16 AM
builds are timeless ,,,built on training,anabolics that were prime grade and available at the time.anybody who can't appreciate the builds here are nuts.
I think a lot of younger guys think these guys are twinky,because they got use to huge guts and monstrous quads.

I do see some of the younger guys here lately that do appreciate the old school look though, as I think they are finally getting sick of looking at guys like Branch winning top contests.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 22, 2012, 10:36:18 AM
I think they are finally getting sick of looking at guys like Branch winning top contests.

I'll never tire of seeing the great champ win


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 22, 2012, 10:53:26 AM
I'll never tire of seeing the great champ win

:D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 22, 2012, 12:03:50 PM
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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: falco on March 22, 2012, 12:48:48 PM
If today pros were like this guys bodybuiling would be much more mainstream.
Average people look at today pros and get nauseous

(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/FilipeFalcao/56a3c62e.jpg)

even at a young age  ; :P


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 23, 2012, 11:28:04 AM
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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 23, 2012, 11:28:49 AM
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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 12:00:01 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 12:01:58 PM
Lots of great bb`ers out of N.J.

Frank Wainwright
Jeff King
Franco Santiriello
Richie Baretta
Dwayne Broadway
Joe Dodd
Ken DiAngelo
John Kemper
Bill Grant

Etc. Etc.


Back in the day the 5 hotbeds of bodybuilding were:
NYC
New Jersey
Massachusettes
Santa Monica/L.A.
Flrida

New Jersey's own


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 12:04:18 PM
 ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 23, 2012, 02:38:14 PM
Rory,Boone,Belknap,Austin..........looking good!

Thanks ND!  ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 23, 2012, 02:39:16 PM
New Jersey's own
I forgot all about the great Phil Hill...................g uy was ahead of his time.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 02:40:11 PM
Rory,Boone,Belknap,Austin..........looking good!

Thanks ND!  ;)

I'm surprised Austin didn't do better in bodybuilding


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 23, 2012, 02:41:35 PM
I'm surprised Austin didn't do better in bodybuilding
No shit,the guy was always shredded.

Probably a political issue or something.......he didn`t really hang around too long compared to a lot of guys.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 02:49:48 PM
 :o


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 02:51:23 PM
Two more of New Jersey's finest


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 02:51:59 PM
 8)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 23, 2012, 02:57:04 PM
Great pics ND...........please feel free to contribute more as your time allows.

You have got some of the best pics on the internet bar none.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 03:01:11 PM
Rhode Island's own


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 03:02:25 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 03:03:32 PM
 :P


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 03:04:27 PM
 :D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on March 23, 2012, 03:04:37 PM
Rory,Boone,Belknap,Austin..........looking good!

Thanks ND!  ;)

Great pic. The 81 AAU Mr America light heavy lineup. Rory and Belknap, the beauty and the beast as it was written at the time.
I thought the guy next to Rory was Billy Arlen. Belknap beat Lance Dreher for the overall.

Ive just realised the winners of this AAU America show went to the IFBB world championships where Lance Dreher won the overall. The AAU Mr America traditionally went to London to compete  in the NABBA Universe. Looks like 1977 with Dave Johns was the last time it was a NABBA feeder. 1979 Ray Mentzer won the AAU American and competed in IFBB World championships.

These guys were just so motivational to get you into the gym. 30 years on I can still remember the names but have not idea who won in the past 15 years.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 03:06:19 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 03:07:29 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: dr.chimps on March 23, 2012, 03:08:57 PM
I forgot all about the great Phil Hill...................g uy was ahead of his time.
Amazing quads. Wanted to be Mayor of Trenton, New Jersey, as I remember. Guess that didn't pan out.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 23, 2012, 03:09:35 PM
Great pic. The 81 AAU Mr America light heavy lineup. Rory and Belknap, the beauty and the beast as it was written at the time.
I thought the guy next to Rory was Billy Arlen. Belknap beat Lance Dreher for the overall.

Ive just realised the winners of this AAU America show went to the IFBB world championships where Lance Dreher won the overall. The AAU Mr America traditionally went to London to compete  in the NABBA Universe. Looks like 1977 with Dave Johns was the last time it was a NABBA feeder. 1979 Ray Mentzer won the AAU American and competed in IFBB World championships.

These guys were just so motivational to get you into the gym. 30 years on I can still remember the names but have not idea who won in the past 15 years.
Same here bud!  ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 03:10:11 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2012, 03:12:21 PM
Amazing quads. Wanted to be Mayor of Trenton, New Jersey, as I remember. Guess that didn't pan out.

Great memory


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Post by: Voland on March 23, 2012, 03:15:05 PM
:)

gasparis arms are so short and shitty.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 24, 2012, 04:04:25 AM
Great pics ND...........please feel free to contribute more as your time allows.

You have got some of the best pics on the internet bar none.
yep!

Great stuff!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 24, 2012, 04:08:18 AM
Amazing quads. Wanted to be Mayor of Trenton, New Jersey, as I remember. Guess that didn't pan out.
didnt he move to a scandinavian country?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 04:46:53 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S5VzN6h8IMI/AAAAAAAAGRw/b2-vqAlv1Go/s400/John-Kemper.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S5VzNVZasII/AAAAAAAAGRo/0peACmY46lk/s400/John-Kemper-4.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S5VzNJ5f4YI/AAAAAAAAGRg/4COvzEPQP-o/s400/John-Kemper-3.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 04:48:52 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S7EhF9cuceI/AAAAAAAAGqI/dylvej4Jp4g/s400/Jeff-Everson.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S6eeLzHJ4-I/AAAAAAAAGgQ/4VWVWjGmnPU/s400/Jim-Haislop-1.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S55L4FGyk3I/AAAAAAAAGa0/n0wVgM-SLiM/s1600/Joe-Meeko-2.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/S55L30rhb0I/AAAAAAAAGas/EtRu1NhgOoY/s400/Joe-Meeko-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 24, 2012, 04:57:45 AM
didnt he move to a scandinavian country?

Didn't Robby move there with his woman?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 24, 2012, 04:59:33 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 05:00:20 AM
Be careful posting pics of "The Black Prince"................fucking guy used to send me threatening e-mails telling me to take his pics off of my site or else!
::)

I told him to fuck off,then afterwards when I thought about it more clear headed, I just took them down out of respect for his wishes but he was a complete asshole about it.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 24, 2012, 05:00:59 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 24, 2012, 05:02:41 AM
Be careful posting pics of "The Black Prince"................fucking guy used to send me threatening e-mails telling me to take his pics off of my site or else!
::)

I told him to fuck off,then afterwards when I thought about it more clear headed, I just took them down out of respect for his wishes but he was a complete asshole about it.

Yeah I think he tried to sue the Weiders for publishing his pics I think he sent Shawn Perine an email as well on ironage



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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 24, 2012, 05:05:54 AM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 24, 2012, 05:07:21 AM
 :)


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Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 05:08:00 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=462970;image)

Talk about thickness........insane!


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Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 05:08:46 AM
Great pics ND !!  ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 24, 2012, 05:09:24 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 24, 2012, 05:25:15 AM
 ;)


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Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 05:25:24 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=462985;image)

Roy Hilligen ?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on March 24, 2012, 09:06:30 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=462985;image)

Roy Hilligen ?
i saw that pic before i think it is roy h. now diseased. he still in good shape into his 60's


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on March 24, 2012, 09:08:29 AM
Yeah I think he tried to sue the Weiders for publishing his pics I think he sent Shawn Perine an email as well on ironage


he did i remember when sp told everyone  not to  put robby r's pics up anymore.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: zodiac on March 24, 2012, 10:01:32 AM
builds are timeless ,,,built on training,anabolics that were prime grade and available at the time.anybody who can't appreciate the builds here are nuts.

Yup..I agree! crazy to think they looked that bad ass back then ...awesome pics..great motivation b4 the gym too.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 10:12:22 AM
(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=854.0;attach=4887;image)


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Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 10:14:25 AM
(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=854.0;attach=4700;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=854.0;attach=4699;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=854.0;attach=4744;image)

(http://raw-iron.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=854.0;attach=4743;image)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 24, 2012, 10:43:34 AM
Didn't Robby move there with his woman?
robby did, but if I'm not mistaken hill also landed up in norway


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 24, 2012, 10:45:45 AM
The fdb with the afro of robby is sick



Wes and ND, I think we're down a few grand already, with all these pics of lou and robby on this thread

I'm calling my lawyer


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Mattyh7688 on March 24, 2012, 10:54:10 AM
I wasn't a huge fan of the 70s and 80s (probably because I didn't grow up in that era of bodybuilding), but damn seeing some of these pics in this thread changed my mind completely. Some amazing physiques back then.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 10:57:23 AM
The fdb with the afro of robby is sick



Wes and ND, I think we're down a few grand already, with all these pics of lou and robby on this thread

I'm calling my lawyer
Oh shit!  :D

<* runs for cover *>


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 10:59:04 AM
I wasn't a huge fan of the 70s and 80s (probably because I didn't grow up in that era of bodybuilding), but damn seeing some of these pics in this thread changed my mind completely. Some amazing physiques back then.
That`s just one of the reasons we got this thread going to show people that enormous quads,site enhancement oil,torn bodyparts, and big guts aren`t needed to look great!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 24, 2012, 11:05:42 AM
I wasn't a huge fan of the 70s and 80s (probably because I didn't grow up in that era of bodybuilding), but damn seeing some of these pics in this thread changed my mind completely. Some amazing physiques back then.

For younger guys used to todays pros, the 80s or older competitors may at first glance appear small or underdeveloped

At closer inspection, they were far from it, real conditioned muscle, proportionate development, and with the appearance of being attainable, more the kind of body a normal guy can relate to

Sure, quads were smalller, delts were smaller

Waists were smaller, arms and delts were real, quads had sweep and detail, shit, most even had calves!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 24, 2012, 11:07:32 AM
Then again schmoes weren't getting value for money then,

No strip club posing, no thongs up the ass...


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Post by: Figo on March 24, 2012, 11:09:22 AM
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Post by: falco on March 24, 2012, 12:17:47 PM
Massive!


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Post by: Dokey111 on March 24, 2012, 12:39:08 PM
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Post by: Max_Rep on March 24, 2012, 01:05:35 PM
Name them...



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Post by: hazbin on March 24, 2012, 07:57:31 PM
here is me in 1995 .  5'9.5  240ish



edit.   i am a computer idiot. if anyone can fix that pic and tell me how to get a pic under 900kb without making it tiny, that would really help me.  thanx.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 08:04:08 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=463052;image)
Arnold
Katz
Waller
Birdsong
Dave Johns
Ed Guilianni
Franklyn Greene
Franco
Kent Kuehn
Richard Baldwin
Ed Corney

That`s all I got for now.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: el numero uno on March 24, 2012, 08:06:24 PM
here is me in 1995 .  5'9.5  240ish



edit.   i am a computer idiot. if anyone can fix that pic and tell me how to get a pic under 900kb without making it tiny, that would really help me.  thanx.

If you have photoshop you can save the pic as ".jpg" and then choose a low quality


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on March 24, 2012, 08:10:01 PM
If you have photoshop you can save the pic as ".jpg" and then choose a low quality

thanx, i'm trying on paint. not sure if i'm getting it


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: chaos on March 24, 2012, 08:14:16 PM
hazbin looking thick and vascular as a cock in this thread.


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Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 08:16:28 PM
Looking crazy Haz...............props!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on March 24, 2012, 08:16:50 PM
hazbin looking thick and vascular as a cock in this thread.

thanx Chaos and Wes.  i know there is a bunch of experts on this board that can tell what i'm on just by the taste of my sperm; but i'm not sending out any samples no matter how many pm's i get.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 08:17:35 PM
thanx Chaos and Wes.  i know there is a bunch of experts on this board that can tell what i'm on just by the taste of my sperm; but i'm not sending out any samples no matter how many pm's i get.
LOL  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: chaos on March 24, 2012, 08:18:51 PM
thanx Chaos and Wes.  i know there is a bunch of experts on this board that can tell what i'm on just by the taste of my sperm; but i'm not sending out any samples no matter how many pm's i get.
hahaa! I know who you're talking about, but I won't ruin a classic thread with that.

Serious Q, it seems like the older generation of bbers had alot more comradarie than the newer generation, like they were friends before competitors, do you think thats true?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on March 24, 2012, 08:24:05 PM
hahaa! I know who you're talking about, but I won't ruin a classic thread with that.

Serious Q, it seems like the older generation of bbers had alot more comradarie than the newer generation, like they were friends before competitors, do you think thats true?

you know, i can't answer that.  i envy guys like Wes and Max that trained around the greats, but there really were no good bodybuilders around me when i was competing. i seriously got my drug and diet advice outta Muscle Mag and bill phillips books. i always fukked up my precontest and ended up looking like an idiot onstage.  i woulda loved to have trained in Venice or somewhere similar, but i was too scared to travel and fail.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: chaos on March 24, 2012, 08:27:41 PM
Wesley? Maxwell? Either care to answer the question?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 08:28:18 PM
The camaraderie was awesome,everyone helped everyone else,pushed each other in the gym,spotted each other,encouraged each other to train harder,it was a good time and I see none of this in todays gyms at all.

Just a bunch of twinks on big blue balls doing stupid and dangerous exercises with light weight.

After training we`d all go out and eat,on the weekends we`d hit the beach or the clubs,visit a strange gym, and train.

Most of the gyms were populated by athletes,bodybuilders,arm wrestlers,Olympic weightlifters,powerlifters...............now they are filled with anyone right off the street and nobody knows jackshit about how to train.,and their all plugged into their headphones.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on March 24, 2012, 08:37:56 PM
lucky SOB!!  i think i coulda gone pretty far if my biggest worry wasn't if my gear was fake and gonna cause me absesses. (this was happening to everyone who used in my area as 90 % of the drugs in my area were fake)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 08:39:40 PM
lucky SOB!!  i think i coulda gone pretty far if my biggest worry wasn't if my gear was fake and gonna cause me absesses. (this was happening to everyone who used in my area as 90 % of the drugs in my area were fake)
Great shot!!

I got an abcess when I lived in Florida............Winst rol V,I`ll never use that shit again.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on March 24, 2012, 08:41:58 PM
Great shot!!

I got an abcess when I lived in Florida............Winst rol V,I`ll never use that shit again.

people were actually selling amour-all (sp) as winstrol, as it looked the same in the bottles. can you imagine injecting that? i know a few guys that did, lucky to be alive.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 08:45:02 PM
people were actually selling amour-all (sp) as winstrol, as it looked the same in the bottles. can you imagine injecting that? i know a few guys that did, lucky to be alive.
That`s insane..........only a true asshole would sell a guy something that dangerous.

GEEZUS!  :(


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on March 25, 2012, 01:14:19 AM
Wesley? Maxwell? Either care to answer the question?

I don't know about being friends before we trained together. Most of us became friends while we trained. You know pushing each other you form friendships. I don't even understand what these people do today.

Hazbin... Jeez put me to shame my friend. I don't know why you say you were afraid because any of the guys would have loved to train with you and guide you... many of them would have taken advice from you.

Tim... c'mon man those are the obvious ones. I'll ad Dan Howard (I think) in the back row between Waller and Arnold.  


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 25, 2012, 03:52:40 AM
I don't know about being friends before we trained together. Most of us became friends while we trained. You know pushing each other you form friendships. I don't even understand what these people do today.

Hazbin... Jeez put me to shame my friend. I don't know why you say you were afraid because any of the guys would have loved to train with you and guide you... many of them would have taken advice from you.

Tim... c'mon man those are the obvious ones. I'll ad Dan Howard (I think) in the back row between Waller and Arnold.  
I`m good ain`t I ?  :D

That does look like Dan Howard..........good call David!  


Possibly Dale Adrian next to Kent Kuehn  ???


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Post by: Figo on March 25, 2012, 04:05:39 AM
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Post by: Figo on March 25, 2012, 04:08:39 AM
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Post by: Figo on March 25, 2012, 04:13:03 AM
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Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: chaos on March 25, 2012, 06:58:37 AM
I don't know about being friends before we trained together. Most of us became friends while we trained. You know pushing each other you form friendships. I don't even understand what these people do today.

Hazbin... Jeez put me to shame my friend. I don't know why you say you were afraid because any of the guys would have loved to train with you and guide you... many of them would have taken advice from you.

Tim... c'mon man those are the obvious ones. I'll ad Dan Howard (I think) in the back row between Waller and Arnold.  
I guess that's what I'm asking, the friendships forged in the gym became bigger than just workout buddies. The good old days.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 25, 2012, 07:57:09 AM
Man, you guys got it made. Imagine being able to sit around all day and admire pictures of men? Unfortunately for me I have a business to run. When The children started coming along I had to choose to be an adult. Lol...I'm lucky to get twenty minutes to myself to bang out a few sets on the weight bench in my basement. Lol.

Too bad.  No one put a gun to your head and told you to marry and have kids, but now you're stuck with that situation.  Having children does not make you an "adult" either.  If you had remained single and childless you would have a lot more time on your hands to do whatever you want.  Everyone makes their own choices in life and they have to face the consequences/ramifications of those choices.  Deal with it.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: willie mosconi on March 25, 2012, 12:07:21 PM
The camaraderie was awesome,everyone helped everyone else,pushed each other in the gym,spotted each other,encouraged each other to train harder,it was a good time and I see none of this in todays gyms at all.

Just a bunch of twinks on big blue balls doing stupid and dangerous exercises with light weight.

After training we`d all go out and eat,on the weekends we`d hit the beach or the clubs,visit a strange gym, and train.

Most of the gyms were populated by athletes,bodybuilders,arm wrestlers,Olympic weightlifters,powerlifters...............now they are filled with anyone right off the street and nobody knows jackshit about how to train.,and their all plugged into their headphones.


I still think you see many hardcore people at gyms. Yes, there are some "twinks" out there- maybe quite a bit more than the glory days, but there are still some very dedicated people out there


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: willie mosconi on March 25, 2012, 12:08:23 PM
.

Whatever happened to Jim Quinn?

I remember reading that some chiropractor screwed up his neck or something. Did he ever recover from that?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 25, 2012, 12:11:24 PM
I still think you see many hardcore people at gyms. Yes, there are some "twinks" out there- maybe quite a bit more than the glory days, but there are still some very dedicated people out there
I`m sure there are but not at my gym.........bunch of idiots for the most part, but I train at a gym on a college campus.........only gym in town.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Max_Rep on March 25, 2012, 01:24:22 PM
I guess that's what I'm asking, the friendships forged in the gym became bigger than just workout buddies. The good old days.

Very true Chaos. When I trained at Gold's Venice, Monday nights at Dinah's all you can eat chicken (Culver City) was like bodybuilding old home day... Roger Callard, Dave Dupree, Samir, Larry Jackson... there was a wait to get in and bodybuilders were all over the place even though it was fried chicken... who cared... it was cheap and it was protein, same with Swedish Inn Smörgåsbord in Weschester, CA. When I trained at Ray Mentzers Muscle Mill... Mike/Ray, Benny Podda and 4 or 5 of us would go to a local dinner afterward and have a late dinner while we listened to Mike and Ray's training advice. It was great. That's rare now.    

Wes... possibly Jacques Neuville on the far right (their left) in a print shirt. Leon Brown in the center in front of Franco. Yes that may be Dale Adrian but hard to tell. I think the guy in the center in front of Arnold was a Mr. Europe or Mr. Belgium but I don’t remember his name… maybe Serge Jacobs? I’m just not sure.

Great photo’s in this thread.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on March 25, 2012, 07:23:15 PM
Cool pic. Never seen it before.

Arnold
Katz
Waller
Birdsong
Dave Johns
Ed Guilianni
Franklyn Greene
Franco
Kent Kuehn
Richard Baldwin
Ed Corney



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: crownshep on March 26, 2012, 03:11:47 AM
This is Serge Jacobs sat down next to Arnie,could be him in the pic above.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2012, 02:55:24 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2012, 02:58:04 PM
 ;D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2012, 02:59:13 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2012, 03:01:02 PM
Edgar Fletcher would get his pro card today with ease


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2012, 03:03:14 PM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2012, 03:03:51 PM
A young Bob Chick


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2012, 03:05:36 PM
 :o


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2012, 03:08:21 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2012, 03:09:08 PM
Reg Park


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2012, 03:10:39 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2012, 03:13:01 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2012, 03:17:44 PM
 8)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2012, 03:24:36 PM
Look at this line-up


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Post by: wes on March 26, 2012, 03:44:32 PM
 8)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Benito Mutumbo on March 26, 2012, 03:54:01 PM
Too bad.  No one put a gun to your head and told you to marry and have kids, but now you're stuck with that situation.  Having children does not make you an "adult" either.  If you had remained single and childless you would have a lot more time on your hands to do whatever you want.  Everyone makes their own choices in life and they have to face the consequences/ramifications of those choices.  Deal with it.

Brutal truth.

Dad won't recover.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on March 26, 2012, 06:45:55 PM
this last page of pics is just incredible ,,,god bbing really is dead.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 26, 2012, 11:37:24 PM
Look at this line-up
that 1991 usa HW's included hernon in 9th, bob chic in 11th & ronnie coleman 14 th

What happened to dean caputo?last saw a pic of him few yrs ago, looking older, distinguished with grey hair next to an equally older and healthy, happy looking eddie robinson. Did he just hang it up?  


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on March 27, 2012, 12:59:20 AM
here's Casey beating Grymkowski at the 71 America  (first pic only, second was from a later contest)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on March 27, 2012, 08:50:07 AM
;D
vince's gym was really sparse. :o


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on March 27, 2012, 08:54:06 AM
 :( but i guessed it worked :o


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Post by: funk51 on March 27, 2012, 09:03:02 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 27, 2012, 09:09:17 AM
I`m sure there are but not at my gym.........bunch of idiots for the most part, but I train at a gym on a college campus.........only gym in town.
^^
You're very right for the most part, Wes.  ANY serious gym should outright BAN these Bosu Balls from the weight area, they are just plain dangerous.  About the only comic relief we get at the YMCA is when some freekin' idiot falls off one ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 27, 2012, 11:06:19 AM
 8)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 27, 2012, 11:07:01 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 27, 2012, 11:09:33 AM
 :)


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Post by: crownshep on March 27, 2012, 11:12:52 AM
Tim


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Post by: crownshep on March 27, 2012, 11:16:51 AM
Ed


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on March 27, 2012, 09:07:53 PM
first Lou Ferrigno article ever.


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Post by: hazbin on March 27, 2012, 09:09:12 PM
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Post by: hazbin on March 27, 2012, 09:10:40 PM
,


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Post by: Figo on March 28, 2012, 03:40:00 AM
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Post by: Figo on March 28, 2012, 03:42:36 AM
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Post by: Figo on March 28, 2012, 03:43:53 AM
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Post by: Figo on March 28, 2012, 03:44:31 AM
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Post by: Figo on March 28, 2012, 03:45:45 AM
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Post by: funk51 on March 28, 2012, 08:32:57 AM
first Lou Ferrigno article ever.
first cover also was MTI, than later lou sued lurie.


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 01:58:38 PM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:01:06 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:03:06 PM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:04:02 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:05:33 PM
 ;D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:06:50 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:08:02 PM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:09:39 PM
 8)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:11:09 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:13:33 PM
 ;D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:17:12 PM
1982 Mr America


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:18:39 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:19:34 PM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:20:48 PM
1982 World


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:22:47 PM
Viator is shredded


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:25:08 PM
 ;D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:29:54 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:31:41 PM
He was a big bastard for his day


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 28, 2012, 02:34:57 PM
 :)


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Post by: L.L on March 28, 2012, 03:02:03 PM
awesome pics ,Wes..that's what bodybuilding is all  about..the mid-late 90's guys destroyed.


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Post by: wes on March 28, 2012, 03:31:16 PM
I hear ya` Slin!

Awesome pics ND.......haven`t seen some of those in a lot of years.


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Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 28, 2012, 04:26:12 PM
This is one of the best threads there ever was on Getbig.

For everyone posting this fantastic pics... thank you!


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Post by: Old-Skool on March 28, 2012, 06:47:23 PM
Sad to see how bb'ing has fallen..sadder to realize how many men in these photos are no longer with us...


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Post by: tommywishbone on March 28, 2012, 06:49:31 PM
Lots of great pics! Nice work.


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Post by: tom joad on March 28, 2012, 06:50:43 PM
yes, it's disgraceful what's happened to bodybuilding under Chick's watch.


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Post by: WillGrant on March 29, 2012, 12:25:59 AM
Lots of great pics! Nice work.
X2


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Post by: Fallsview on March 29, 2012, 01:54:25 AM
Nice to see the old photo's of when the guys didn't have to be "on" all year.  The start of the 80's Weider wanted top bodybuiders to stay "on" all year because of his magazines. Mohamed Makkawy was one of the guys that told Weider to stick it.


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Post by: Figo on March 29, 2012, 04:41:32 AM
Nice to see the old photo's of when the guys didn't have to be "on" all year.  The start of the 80's Weider wanted top bodybuiders to stay "on" all year because of his magazines. Mohamed Makkawy was one of the guys that told Weider to stick it.

If he was paying them like pro athletes it would be understandable to expect them to be "professional" and in shape for a large part of the year.

I've seen pics of dickerson in M&F features, where you wouldn't say this guy was THE top pro of the time, when he was winning all the shows around 80-82

All about the bottomline, yet they expect the guys to be in near contest shape and dieting, taking drugs, taking diuretics so they can sell, products and magazines, and do the "pros" get? A tub of weider mass builder, and some pocket money...

Arnold positioned himself and franco beautifully, and sued or threatened to sue weider several different times. Arnold obviously got what he wanted...

I read a ricky wayne article where he states that a photo shoot in NY shortly after the 71 mr O. Draper and oliva both refused to take their clothing off and pose, until they got their fee in cash upfront. Arnold apparently used his contest winnings to front the cash for Joe, it was 2 days after the contest...


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Post by: funk51 on March 29, 2012, 06:41:05 AM
 ;D


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Post by: gracie bjj on March 29, 2012, 07:10:31 AM
 having arnold, franco, draper, robbie, waller and many other greats in one gym must have been cool. 


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Post by: Meso_z on March 29, 2012, 07:25:37 AM
Great pics!!


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:07:10 AM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:09:30 AM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:10:20 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:11:52 AM
 :)


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Post by: tommywishbone on March 29, 2012, 10:12:18 AM
Draper's best shot.  IMO


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:13:22 AM
 ;D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:14:14 AM
 8)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:16:49 AM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:18:44 AM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:19:49 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:20:40 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:21:48 AM
 :)


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Post by: tommywishbone on March 29, 2012, 10:22:30 AM
Menddenhall strolled into Gold's Venice in 95-96 and he still had those crazy calves. Not much else, but those calves were still nuts.  


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:22:46 AM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:23:50 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:25:04 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:26:25 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:28:20 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:29:10 AM
 :)


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Post by: tommywishbone on March 29, 2012, 10:29:59 AM
Flex Wheeler's Father in law. And a real cool cat.


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:30:10 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:31:19 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:32:52 AM
 :)


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Post by: tommywishbone on March 29, 2012, 10:33:07 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:34:17 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:35:50 AM
 >:(


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:37:14 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:39:28 AM
 :o


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:40:32 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:42:08 AM
 ;D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:43:56 AM
 :D


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Post by: wes on March 29, 2012, 10:45:18 AM
Flex Wheeler's Father in law. And a real cool cat.
Back in the day Paul Love used to run the Iron Man contest... in Fresno Ca. I believe.......you had to compete in both a powermeet and a physique contest.

This thread is becoming legendary!


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:46:58 AM
 :)


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Post by: wes on March 29, 2012, 10:47:19 AM
You guys notice how they used to always take pics of these cats outside at the beach or in a nice park setting........they should do this to the covers today.
::)


Yeah right! ;D


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Post by: tommywishbone on March 29, 2012, 10:48:51 AM
Back in the day Paul Love used to run the Iron Man contest... in Fresno Ca. I believe.......you had to compete in both a powermeet and a physique contest.

This thread is becoming legendary!

I have competed in that very show!

220's and then the evening bodybuilding show.


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:49:02 AM
 :)


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Post by: wes on March 29, 2012, 10:50:01 AM
I have competed in that very show!

220's and then the evening bodybuilding show.
Cool..........tommy you`re part of bodybuilding history man!


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:50:18 AM
 :D


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Post by: tommywishbone on March 29, 2012, 10:50:41 AM
Cool..........tommy you`re part of bodybuilding history man!

A very very small part, but yes a part.  ;D


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Post by: wes on March 29, 2012, 10:50:47 AM
Hey Tommy,ever meet a black guy named Charles Franciliette..........gr eat physique?

I know he did the Iron Man years ago.


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:51:17 AM
 :o


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Post by: tommywishbone on March 29, 2012, 10:51:24 AM
Hey Tommy,ever meet a black guy named Charles Franciliette..........gr eat physique?

I don't know/remember that name Wes.


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Post by: wes on March 29, 2012, 10:52:01 AM
A very very small part, but yes a part.  ;D
Hey,nothing wrong with that bro...........you`ve seen it all.


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:52:31 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:53:30 AM
 ;)


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Post by: wes on March 29, 2012, 10:54:21 AM
I don't know/remember that name Wes.
Can`t find a pic online!  :(


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:54:31 AM
 :)


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Post by: tommywishbone on March 29, 2012, 10:55:18 AM
Can`t find a pic online!  :(

Hang tight and I'll post some pics of the 1983 Iromman. Featuring. . . yours truly.


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:55:29 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:56:28 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:57:23 AM
 8)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:58:50 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 10:59:24 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 11:00:02 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 29, 2012, 11:00:58 AM
 :)


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Post by: tommywishbone on March 29, 2012, 11:33:09 AM
1983 Ironman. Physique part of the show/meet. I don't know why I'm making that mean face?  ;D Lifting pic coming as promised.


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Post by: wes on March 29, 2012, 11:35:02 AM
1983 Ironman. Physique part of the show/meet. I don't know why I'm making that mean face?  ;D Lifting pic coming as promised.
Looking good man........BIG + lean.

How`d you place?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 29, 2012, 11:36:15 AM
Phil Williams looked awesome.......could have gone so much farther if he chose to.


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Post by: tommywishbone on March 29, 2012, 11:44:09 AM
Looking good man........BIG + lean.

How`d you place?

I took 3rd in the 220's. Went 622 squat, 424 bench, 633 deadlift. Remember, in sanctioned USPF meets we lifted in kilos not pounds, that's why the silly uneven numbers.

In the evening show/bb portion, you were only placed in the "entire event". Your lifting placing was combined with your physique placing and that gave you your overall finish. I was not in the top 5, trophy winners.  


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 29, 2012, 11:45:22 AM
I took 3rd in the 220's. Went 622 squat, 422 bench, 633 deadlift. Remember, we lifted in kilos not pounds, that's why the silly uneven numbers.

In the evening show/bb portion, you were only placed in the "entire event". Your lifting placing was combined with your physique placing and that gace you your overall finish. I was not in the top 5, trophy winners. 
Nice lifts,especially at 220 pounds.............props!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Fallsview on March 30, 2012, 01:52:31 AM
1983 Ironman. Physique part of the show/meet. I don't know why I'm making that mean face?  ;D Lifting pic coming as promised.

Tommy how tall are you?



EL PACIFICO!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Fallsview on March 30, 2012, 01:53:34 AM
Tim Belknap: First guy to use insulin because he was a legit diabetic and look at his thick waste...






EL PACIFICO!


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Post by: Figo on March 30, 2012, 03:44:11 AM
Tim Belknap: First guy to use insulin because he was a legit diabetic and look at his thick waste...






EL PACIFICO!

I think people make too much of his diabetic slin use.
It may have assisted, but he was 5'5", weighed 215-220, had a blocky structure, so his waist was never gonna be zane-like

Had he stuck it out, and not switched to nabba, where he did great, he couldve made damage at ifbb, in mid 80s

He looked great when he won the america


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Post by: gracie bjj on March 30, 2012, 05:15:28 AM
man those old photos brought me back, :) i used to have lance dreher, the barbarian brothers, belknap, jeff king, sergio, and ofcourse arnold pics hanging on the wall of my home gym back in the early to mid 80,s.i miss the good ole ciba-geigy dbol from back then


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Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 05:16:18 AM
man those old photos brought me back, :) i used to have lance dreher, the barbarian brothers, belknap, jeff king, sergio, and ofcourse arnold pics hanging on the wall of my home gym back in the early to mid 80,s.i miss the good ole ciba-geigy dbol from back then
That shit was the bomb!  :D


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Post by: BigCyp on March 30, 2012, 05:19:53 AM
How comes you guys managed to wriggle out of WWII to lift all those weights?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 05:20:43 AM
How comes you guys managed to wriggle out of WWII to lift all those weights?
We (bodybuilders) were considered entertainers so we got a pass!  ;)


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Post by: BigCyp on March 30, 2012, 05:30:09 AM
We (bodybuilders) were considered entertainers so we got a pass!  ;)

Hahaha good answer  :D


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Post by: gracie bjj on March 30, 2012, 05:30:26 AM
That shit was the bomb!  :D

those ciba dbol was my very first cycle back in 83, i put on some size quick. back then you could get sauce anywhere cause it was that easy, i remember training in the same gym as johnnie morant, guy duccasse, gaspari, franco santoreillo and a bunch of other good bodybuilders in north jersey back in 84. kempers gym was awesome. you look awesome in that pic wes  


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Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 05:32:41 AM
those ciba dbol was my very first cycle back in 83, i put on some size quick. back then you could get sauce anywhere cause it was that easy, i remember training in the same gym as johnnie morant, guy duccasse, gaspari, franco santoreillo and a bunch of other good bodybuilders in north jersey back in 84. kempers gym was awesome. you look awesome in that pic wes 
Thanks bro..................... ...damn that must have been awesome training back then at Diamond Gym.

Do you know Dwayne Broadway,Cephas Bacon,and David Wilson?

CIBA D-Bol was the first shit I ever took..........3 5mg. tabs a day............I looked great and got strong as hell.

I miss those days!  :(


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Post by: Jaime on March 30, 2012, 05:38:31 AM
(http://www.strength-oldschool.com/uploads/1284918699/med_gallery_1_4_60593.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/attachments/bodybuilding-discussion/5444d1164320668-most-aesthetically-pleasing-bodybuilder-all-time-nub10.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/sergenubret/nub47.jpg)
(http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/patneve/patneve3.jpg)
(http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/joenazario1.jpg)
(http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/patneve/patneve8.jpg)


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Post by: gracie bjj on March 30, 2012, 05:39:51 AM
i remember those guys, they used to train in the morning when i went. michael johnson and nick lavatola as well as john and shirley trained very early also. one day i was training and in walks pro wrestlers ricky steamboat and paul orndorf.steamboat was huge as hell, that gym was crazy bro in alot of different ways :o


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 05:55:21 AM
i remember those guys, they used to train in the morning when i went. michael johnson and nick lavatola as well as john and shirley trained very early also. one day i was training and in walks pro wrestlers ricky steamboat and paul orndorf.steamboat was huge as hell, that gym was crazy bro in alot of different ways :o
Cool!!

I`ve heard a lot of stories about Diamond that I won`t mention in this thread.

A lot of wrestlers came to our gym one time,they got dwarfed by Jeff King and the other animals at our gym.

Arcidi was there ,gave a kid a 100 dollar bill to go get him a sub and a soda,kid came back and he let the kid keep the change.

He also was doing Skullcrushers with 3 plates a side.......guy was a fucking monster.


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Post by: Figo on March 30, 2012, 05:58:13 AM
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Post by: Figo on March 30, 2012, 06:00:29 AM
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Post by: gracie bjj on March 30, 2012, 06:02:13 AM
paris was a damn good bodybuilder, his shape was awesome.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 06:02:17 AM
Those are oldies!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: gracie bjj on March 30, 2012, 06:07:49 AM
remember when muscle builder and the thick ass muscle mag magazines was around? those where the bomb. them old mags where a hundred times better then the ones now. i still got some old ironman mags from the late 60,s or early seventies layin around somewhere that my 8th grade teacher gave me,lol


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 06:12:28 AM
remember when muscle builder and the thick ass muscle mag magazines was around? those where the bomb. them old mags where a hundred times better then the ones now. i still got some old ironman mags from the late 60,s or early seventies layin around somewhere that my 8th grade teacher gave me,lol
Yup,sold a lot of my old mags on E-Bay but I still have a lot of old Iron Man mags from the Peary and Mabel Rader days.

The mags today,I stopped buying years ago............I still have a lot of others too,but the old Iron Mans were like the bodybuilding bible!  ;)

Before the internet,those mags were slow in coming,but when they hit the stands,you felt like training hard right then and there!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: gracie bjj on March 30, 2012, 06:21:00 AM
i remember buying the heavy duty mentzer manuals back in the day also, my neighbor gave me the old arnold training manuals he had from the 70,s also. i cant find the arnold ones, ive must have lost them and it sucks cause they would prolly be worth some coin today.i used to train with bill grant alot and he would tell me how him and arnold used to train, the stories bill use to tell about those old golds gym days in cali where priceless. im actually gonna see if i could find a time machine to go back to the early 80,s when bodybuilding and life in general was better,lol


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: gracie bjj on March 30, 2012, 06:30:07 AM
first pro show i ever went to was in 82 i believe, it was the mr america in radio city music hall in nyc,.belknap guest posed and mike christian and a young haney where in it. i forgot who won though, kemper started running alot of shows back then also which was cool. i remember johnnie morant had such good genetics that he used to plow down white castle hamburgers right up to the show and still looked awesome, he worked at the white castle back then so he had unlimited access,lol. do you remember lucho? he was the teenage mr america when he was like 15 or so, sadly he died back in 98


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 30, 2012, 06:39:44 AM
Cardillo was big on electric muscle stimulation. To me it looks like torture, lol

You guys are right about the mags, they became garbage. I remember pre internet waiting for the olympia and other contest results!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 06:44:59 AM
first pro show i ever went to was in 82 i believe, it was the mr america in radio city music hall in nyc,.belknap guest posed and mike christian and a young haney where in it. i forgot who won though, kemper started running alot of shows back then also which was cool. i remember johnnie morant had such good genetics that he used to plow down white castle hamburgers right up to the show and still looked awesome, he worked at the white castle back then so he had unlimited access,lol. do you remember lucho? he was the teenage mr america when he was like 15 or so, sadly he died back in 98
Lucho  ???  not sure ?

Bill Grant has to be one of the nicest guys you`d ever want to meet.........a real class act.

If you find that time machine,don`t forget me please!  ;D

Cardillo was a good bodybuilder always in top condition........I now wonder if he was really into that electronic muscle stimulation or was it just a ploy to make cash........who knows?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 30, 2012, 06:53:38 AM
Probably into EMS to make cash, you're right. I wonder how many guys tried to emulate that, and took car batteries to gym

He did well with the belts though good at marketing himself, he didn't have the best genes, but always got press,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 06:55:20 AM
Probably into EMS to make cash, you're right. I wonder how many guys tried to emulate that, and took car batteries to gym

He did well with the belts though good at marketing himself, he didn't have the best genes, but always got press,
Yeah,he`s raking it in on the belts,and they are nice!

I`m bringing my battery to the gym today..........tired of being small!  :D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 30, 2012, 07:07:53 AM
Yeah,he`s raking it in on the belts,and they are nice!

I`m bringing my battery to the gym today..........tired of being small!  :D

Take your belt that says "WES" in bold red lettering with you!

Then , apply the weider "shock principle"


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: gracie bjj on March 30, 2012, 07:08:36 AM
i forgot to add ms olympia carla dunlop trained there in the morning to back then, she used to work out with shirley kemper. carla was/is really good people


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 07:13:49 AM
Take your belt that says "WES" in bold red lettering with you!

Then , apply the weider "shock principle"

LOL  ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 30, 2012, 07:25:21 AM
i forgot to add ms olympia carla dunlop trained there in the morning to back then, she used to work out with shirley kemper. carla was/is really good people

Fantastic stuff

You trained in the same gym as some really good bbers, in what I feel is the best era of bbing

Feel free to share more!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: gracie bjj on March 30, 2012, 07:39:10 AM
i remember dennis tinerino training there also for a 2 day period, he had great shape and was a great guy. it seemed like back then the gym atmosphere was more laid back, guys came to train hard and most where always willing to help me out with my routine and give me valuable tips that i still use today. them guys in diamond where doing the low carb thing back then when the general public had no clue about dieting. kempers a bodybuilding guru imo


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on March 30, 2012, 07:47:41 AM
i'm pretty sure Cardillo now owns a chain of fitness centers and is megarich.  i saw a show where he was interviewed and has an olympic sized swim pool in his house.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on March 30, 2012, 07:49:27 AM
and sign me up for that time machine guys.   i have been training since Arnold was winning Olympias and would have loved to have experienced what you guys have live.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 30, 2012, 08:37:27 AM
and sign me up for that time machine guys.   i have been training since Arnold was winning Olympias and would have loved to have experienced what you guys have live.

X 2


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 08:48:51 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 08:50:15 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 08:51:25 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 08:52:43 AM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 08:53:45 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 08:55:20 AM
The Libor Minarek pic is really Ahmet Enulu,I think.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 08:55:47 AM
 ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 08:57:11 AM
 :D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: jwb on March 30, 2012, 08:57:18 AM
ND has all the early 80's muscle and fitness mags I grew up on. Mine were read so much the covers fell off.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 08:58:43 AM
ND has all the early 80's muscle and fitness mags I grew up on. Mine were read so much the covers fell off.
No shit,read mine until I almost knew the mag word for word.........no internet made those mags seem like gold!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 08:58:52 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: jwb on March 30, 2012, 09:04:53 AM
No shit,read mine until I almost knew the mag word for word.........no internet made those mags seem like gold!
My favorite was musclemag from 1981-1984.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 09:05:56 AM
My favorite was musclemag from 1981-1984.
MuscleMag was great back then,and the older Iron Man (70`s early 80`s) were awesome too.

Now they all just suck!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:10:16 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:11:13 AM
 :o


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: jwb on March 30, 2012, 09:11:52 AM
I couldn't get the old ironman in Australia where I live. I liked muscle digest too though.

Here is the first mag I ever bought. Mine was scrap paper by the time I finished with it. I was 11 years old. I think the spark was seeing the news report about the 80 Olympia on tv and also seeing Zane on that hart to hart episode called pumping gold (on YouTube now btw).

http://musclememory.com/magCover.php?mw;0208;Muscle+World




Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:13:12 AM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:14:16 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:15:57 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:17:06 AM
 :o


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:19:48 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:21:01 AM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:24:02 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:25:27 AM
 :o


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:27:03 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:28:31 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:30:37 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:36:13 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:37:08 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:42:32 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:51:41 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:54:29 AM
 :o


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 09:57:28 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 10:00:57 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 10:05:09 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 10:06:53 AM
 ;D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 10:09:16 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 10:11:12 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on March 30, 2012, 11:37:22 AM
8)
no shrinkage there.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on March 30, 2012, 11:39:17 AM
no shrinkage there.
sorry couldn't resist ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 12:10:03 PM
I couldn't get the old ironman in Australia where I live. I liked muscle digest too though.

Here is the first mag I ever bought. Mine was scrap paper by the time I finished with it. I was 11 years old. I think the spark was seeing the news report about the 80 Olympia on tv and also seeing Zane on that hart to hart episode called pumping gold (on YouTube now btw).

http://musclememory.com/magCover.php?mw;0208;Muscle+World



I have that issue stored away !  :D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 12:14:20 PM
Great friggin` pics ND,thanks for your contributions to this thread!

Any shots of John Terelli by any chance?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on March 30, 2012, 12:17:29 PM
Great friggin` pics ND,thanks for your contributions to this thread!

Any shots of John Terelli by any chance?

John left the ifbb and did one contest in europe, probably the nabba. he looked like he was 25 lbs heavier than in the ifbb contests, and just as good condition.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 12:37:08 PM
John left the ifbb and did one contest in europe, probably the nabba. he looked like he was 25 lbs heavier than in the ifbb contests, and just as good condition.
Yeah,I think it was NABBA.............great bodybuilder,one of my favorites.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: jwb on March 30, 2012, 01:47:17 PM
Terilli had retired and opened a gym in Sydney around 1990 or so but got bored and decided to enter the 1994 pro universe nabba. Everyone had written him off since he was looking like a normal person pretty much. 4 months later he kicked everyone's butt. Strange guy though.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:10:23 PM
 ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:11:38 PM
 ;D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:16:05 PM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:16:56 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:18:06 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: cswol on March 30, 2012, 02:19:29 PM
GOLDS VENICE IS FULL OF FRAUDULENT POSERS WHO DONT EVEN TRAIN, SISSYS AND PUNKS, AND ITS NO LONGER THE MECCA, ITS THE PECCA FOR PECKER LOVERS, FUCK GOLDS VENICE.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 02:19:41 PM
Thanks ND......you`re the man !!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 30, 2012, 02:20:22 PM
GOLDS VENICE IS FULL OF FRAUDULENT POSERS WHO DONT EVEN TRAIN, SISSYS AND PUNKS, AND ITS NO LONGER THE MECCA, ITS THE PECCA FOR PECKER LOVERS, FUCK GOLDS VENICE.
C`mon Noli,back in the old days it was the shit.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:20:38 PM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:21:36 PM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:22:55 PM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:24:12 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:25:05 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: cswol on March 30, 2012, 02:25:30 PM
WES THE END OF THE OLD DAYS CAME TO A HAULT IN 99, AFTER THE CRAIG TITUS MELVIN ANTHONY INCIDENT, I WAS THE ONLY ONE LEFT TO TRAIN AND BE A REAL guy IN THAT DUMP, AND IM BANNED FOR LIFE.............ITS MORE OF A PLACE FOR PEOPLE AT 830 AM TO SIT ON A MACHINE DRINKING STARBUCKS, AND READING A NEWSPAPER, WHILE THE GUY TRAINING HIS ASS OFF GETS KICKED OUT, FUCKEM!


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:25:48 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:26:38 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:27:32 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:28:18 PM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:29:06 PM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:30:02 PM
 ;D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:30:48 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:31:38 PM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:32:27 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:33:11 PM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:34:08 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:35:03 PM
 8)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:35:57 PM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:37:09 PM
 :o


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:38:07 PM
 >:(


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:39:18 PM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:40:03 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:41:06 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:42:04 PM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 30, 2012, 02:42:55 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on March 31, 2012, 12:21:22 AM
Fantastic mentzer pics

ND, do you have a separate room for your bbing library, scanners and hard drives!? Great collection


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: jwb on March 31, 2012, 12:24:03 AM
WES THE END OF THE OLD DAYS CAME TO A HAULT IN 99, AFTER THE CRAIG TITUS MELVIN ANTHONY INCIDENT, I WAS THE ONLY ONE LEFT TO TRAIN AND BE A REAL #### IN THAT DUMP, AND IM BANNED FOR LIFE.............ITS MORE OF A PLACE FOR PEOPLE AT 830 AM TO SIT ON A MACHINE DRINKING STARBUCKS, AND READING A NEWSPAPER, WHILE THE GUY TRAINING HIS ASS OFF GETS KICKED OUT, FUCKEM!
Was Mateo the manager then?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 31, 2012, 12:33:44 AM
don't remember the placings...but it looks like Robby is taking Mentzer to school in that pic

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=464640;image)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 31, 2012, 04:46:39 AM
WES THE END OF THE OLD DAYS CAME TO A HAULT IN 99, AFTER THE CRAIG TITUS MELVIN ANTHONY INCIDENT, I WAS THE ONLY ONE LEFT TO TRAIN AND BE A REAL #### IN THAT DUMP, AND IM BANNED FOR LIFE.............ITS MORE OF A PLACE FOR PEOPLE AT 830 AM TO SIT ON A MACHINE DRINKING STARBUCKS, AND READING A NEWSPAPER, WHILE THE GUY TRAINING HIS ASS OFF GETS KICKED OUT, FUCKEM!
Yeah,I`ve heard it really sucks there now bro.  :(


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on March 31, 2012, 05:44:32 AM
don't remember the placings...but it looks like Robby is taking Mentzer to school in that pic

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=464640;image)
conditioning yeah,but mentzer looks a tad bigger and esp legs,robbie has great overall look and waist ,mentzer was blocky but thick build,tossup.robbie hung in there longer even with politics ,mentzer was pissed after 80 mro and said fuk u to pro bbing.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: falco on March 31, 2012, 06:33:15 AM
I always liked mentzer a lot.
I was shocked when i saw his movie about HIT. He was 48 or something yet he moved around like he was 80 or more. Even the way he talked, it was like he was going to fade the next second. Damn! that's aging fast!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on March 31, 2012, 06:39:55 AM
Mentzer beat Robby on two occasions and Robby beat Mike twice in other contests.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on March 31, 2012, 06:44:35 AM
I always liked mentzer a lot.
I was shocked when i saw his movie about HIT. He was 48 or something yet he moved around like he was 80 or more. Even the way he talked, it was like he was going to fade the next second. Damn! that's aging fast!
i think he smoked alot and just gave up,,smart in terms of training tho.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 31, 2012, 09:27:02 AM
i think he smoked alot and just gave up,,smart in terms of training tho.
^^
I met him at the entrance to Gold's in 1994- I shook his hand, told him I though I'd never get to meet him, etc... He asked me if I smoked (!!!) I said "of course not, who the hell would if you're trying to be healthy"?
He said back "well I love to smoke" and lit up right there outside the entrance.
Absolutely blew my mind...

P.S.  100% true story, never got to meet any pros except Mike Mentzer, Dennis Tinerino, and Boyer Coe.



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Post by: falco on March 31, 2012, 01:52:45 PM
Smoke alone doesn't do all that. He looked like he was in an advanced stage of artrithis or something.


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Post by: hazbin on March 31, 2012, 01:55:21 PM
Smoke alone doesn't do all that. He looked like he was in an advanced stage of artrithis or something.

maybe it was from drinking his own piss ???


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Post by: dr.chimps on March 31, 2012, 02:01:37 PM
I knew a guy who went to a Mentzer lecture thingy, and he came away so disillusioned. I mean, Mentzer and his methodology meant everything to this guy, and he said Mike was dismissive to the audience, and hinted that he was, er, not sober.    :-\


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Post by: andreisdaman on March 31, 2012, 08:16:20 PM
Smoke alone doesn't do all that. He looked like he was in an advanced stage of artrithis or something.
I think the kidneys were going about about that tme


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Post by: oldtimer1 on April 01, 2012, 03:29:23 AM
Advanced heart disease will do that. It's so sad that this once strong man was reduced to having trouble walking across a room at such a young age.


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Post by: Figo on April 01, 2012, 10:16:06 AM

Great bber that found a way to make money with his protocols

But from sound of things had some self esteem and psychological issues

Plus drank, smoked and did meth, add heart disease to mix...


I've heard both the mentzer brothers would talk at people, not with, a discussion re training and diet philosophy with them became a lecture, even with more accomplished bbers than themselves. And they were apparently very morbid, negative people, especially Ray


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Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 01, 2012, 10:24:18 AM
Smoke alone doesn't do all that. He looked like he was in an advanced stage of artrithis or something.

Wasn't he addicted to amphetamines too?


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Post by: wes on April 01, 2012, 10:39:30 AM
Great bber that found a way to make money with his protocols

But from sound of things had some self esteem and psychological issues

Plus drank, smoked and did meth, add heart disease to mix...


I've heard both the mentzer brothers would talk at people, not with, a discussion re training and diet philosophy with them became a lecture, even with more accomplished bbers than themselves. And they were apparently very morbid, negative people, especially Ray
Dogma personified.


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:09:14 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:10:20 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:12:52 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:14:07 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:14:59 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:16:01 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:17:16 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:18:25 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:19:56 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:21:26 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:24:29 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:25:55 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:27:19 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:28:37 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:29:45 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:32:31 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:34:20 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:36:03 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:38:26 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:39:59 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 02, 2012, 02:42:14 PM
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Post by: wes on April 02, 2012, 03:22:41 PM
GREAT PICS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Post by: andreisdaman on April 02, 2012, 08:37:51 PM
great thread


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Post by: Figo on April 02, 2012, 11:58:58 PM
Nice haney and labrada pics

Two class acts in bbing

All the way class


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Post by: gracie bjj on April 03, 2012, 03:50:14 AM
those gunner rosbo (spell check )pics brought me back, i remember seeing him in the european bodybuilding championships in the early 80,s. the thing that stood out were his guns, especially the forearms. prolly the best forearms in bodybuilding back then, maybe casey viator wouldve given him a run for the money though


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Post by: wes on April 03, 2012, 04:08:25 AM
those gunner rosbo (spell check )pics brought me back, i remember seeing him in the european bodybuilding championships in the early 80,s. the thing that stood out were his guns, especially the forearms. prolly the best forearms in bodybuilding back then, maybe casey viator wouldve given him a run for the money though
Rosbos pics are scattered throughout this thread,but I believe there are quite a few 6-7 pages back or so.............the guy was an underated beast!


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Post by: gracie bjj on April 03, 2012, 05:41:26 AM
lance dreher had some awesome guns also, he was one of my favorites back in the day along with jeff king and belknap. i know they werent the most decorated bodybuilders but they werent no paper tigers like some of the pros today. i almost forgot about rory liedelmeyer, he was a beast also


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on April 03, 2012, 05:59:02 AM
lance dreher had some awesome guns also, he was one of my favorites back in the day along with jeff king and belknap. i know they werent the most decorated bodybuilders but they werent no paper tigers like some of the pros today. i almost forgot about rory liedelmeyer, he was a beast also
Great bodybuilders,they just didn`t get a lot of magazine coverage,sadly enough, as they sure deserved more than they got.


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Post by: Figo on April 04, 2012, 09:02:53 AM
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Post by: Figo on April 04, 2012, 09:07:01 AM
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Post by: Figo on April 04, 2012, 09:15:54 AM
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Post by: Figo on April 04, 2012, 09:18:42 AM
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Post by: gracie bjj on April 04, 2012, 09:44:24 AM
cool pix figo, thanx. i dont think i ever seen those shots of rory next to belknap,belknaps wheels where ahead of his time. my buddy saw rory out in cali back in 82 and said the guy was a monster, and strong as hell to boot


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 11:27:34 AM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 11:29:15 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 11:30:34 AM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 11:32:12 AM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 11:34:03 AM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 11:35:58 AM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 11:37:40 AM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 11:39:26 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 11:41:10 AM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 11:43:18 AM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 11:45:20 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 11:49:03 AM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 11:54:54 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 11:58:46 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 12:00:41 PM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 12:06:12 PM
 ;)


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Post by: wes on April 04, 2012, 12:20:45 PM
Awesome pics Figo and ND........thanks!  ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 01:27:52 PM
Awesome pics Figo and ND........thanks!  ;)
No problem  ;D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 01:29:15 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 01:30:40 PM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 01:32:47 PM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 01:37:00 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 01:38:18 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 01:41:25 PM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 01:45:40 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 01:48:07 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 01:50:01 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 01:52:07 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 04, 2012, 01:56:50 PM
 :)


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Post by: andreisdaman on April 04, 2012, 08:45:40 PM
Tom Platz had the best legs ever..hands down


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Post by: Figo on April 05, 2012, 02:11:53 AM
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Post by: Figo on April 05, 2012, 02:13:16 AM
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Post by: Figo on April 05, 2012, 02:18:12 AM
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Post by: Figo on April 05, 2012, 02:23:38 AM
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Post by: Figo on April 08, 2012, 06:51:12 AM
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Post by: cswol on April 08, 2012, 01:10:10 PM
bodybuilding died in 1992, lee haney was last real bber, along with chris cormier, ronnie coleman, kevin levrone, and few other guys, after that and these guys, its total shitpot!


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Post by: arce1988 on April 08, 2012, 01:41:53 PM
  The Mecca...


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Post by: cswol on April 08, 2012, 02:33:01 PM
steve whats up man, what u doin


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Post by: andreisdaman on April 08, 2012, 02:45:01 PM
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The Lou Ferrigno pic above is really insane!!!!


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 11:43:47 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 11:44:58 AM
 ;D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 11:46:19 AM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 11:50:08 AM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 11:56:00 AM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 11:57:57 AM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 11:59:34 AM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 12:00:51 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 12:02:56 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 12:06:33 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 12:12:53 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 12:18:06 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 12:20:01 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 12:21:48 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 12:24:34 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 12:26:35 PM
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 12:30:20 PM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2012, 12:35:00 PM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 10, 2012, 02:40:52 PM
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Post by: gracie bjj on April 13, 2012, 05:50:39 AM
thanks also nd, them pics bring me back to my better days, no injuries, no joint pain, hard partying


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Post by: wes on April 13, 2012, 07:28:35 AM
Great pics as always ND...........thanks!!


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Post by: fredrollon on April 16, 2012, 07:05:43 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=465906;image)


(http://www.mrofansite.com/fuller/jf63.jpg)


 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 16, 2012, 07:07:54 AM




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 ;)


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Post by: Figo on April 21, 2012, 01:35:00 AM
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Post by: crownshep on April 21, 2012, 02:08:58 AM
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Post by: njflex on April 21, 2012, 06:33:20 AM
great pic of haney and gaspari,,,'haney's thinking this boy is ripped but hell no is he beating me with what i got going on underneath .structure and arm wise rich was not beating haney.


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Post by: Figo on April 22, 2012, 03:11:36 AM
great pic of haney and gaspari,,,'haney's thinking this boy is ripped but hell no is he beating me with what i got going on underneath .structure and arm wise rich was not beating haney.
in his early days haney really had a very "casual " look in the gym, old torn up clothing, barefoot, hair was long... Seen a few pics from time he was a new pro of the same ;D

In the late 80s he started wearing spandex and tank tops like everyone else, and later, the animal kingdom stuff


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Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 22, 2012, 03:20:10 AM
can we rename Glod's the Ass Mecca? It would be a better fit both then and now.


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Post by: Figo on April 22, 2012, 03:50:58 AM
can we rename Glod's the Ass Mecca? It would be a better fit both then and now.

Cmon Sev, we all know you're a fan of the ass mecca in the old days as well

Doesn't mean you have to wear paperbag shoes, or daisy dukes to be a fan


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Post by: Natural_O on April 22, 2012, 09:34:26 PM
Arnold and Draper at the 1970 Nabba Mr. Universe


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Post by: Natural_O on April 22, 2012, 09:35:37 PM
Platz squatting back in the day


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Post by: andreisdaman on April 23, 2012, 10:39:52 PM
Platz squatting back in the day

I think that in retrospect, squatting heavy like this is dangerous and a waste of time..not worth the potential for injury


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Post by: Figo on April 23, 2012, 11:43:31 PM
I think that in retrospect, squatting heavy like this is dangerous and a waste of time..not worth the potential for injury

But it makes for a really cool pic


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Post by: Natural_O on April 24, 2012, 01:29:32 AM
Franco and Platz at the 1981 Olympia


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Post by: crownshep on April 24, 2012, 03:03:23 AM
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Post by: gracie bjj on April 24, 2012, 05:35:36 AM
man the golden eagle got robbed at the 81 olympia, franco was a great bodybuilder and i mean no disrespect towards him but platz smoked him in that show. franco legs where down and franco had mad bitch tits also. the franco of 75 was a different story cause he was on the money back then and a force


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Post by: Figo on April 24, 2012, 07:39:22 AM
man the golden eagle got robbed at the 81 olympia, franco was a great bodybuilder and i mean no disrespect towards him but platz smoked him in that show. franco legs where down and franco had mad bitch tits also. the franco of 75 was a different story cause he was on the money back then and a force

Its a pity a friend of platz's didn't promote the show

Or that platz didn't have a friend with pull in high places (like judging panels)

Platz was clearly superior


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Post by: Natural_O on April 24, 2012, 09:00:00 AM
Padilla and Jusup Wilcosz at the same show


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Post by: gracie bjj on April 24, 2012, 10:14:00 AM
i always liked padilla, he had great shape and balance


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Post by: gracie bjj on April 24, 2012, 10:55:08 AM
Its a pity a friend of platz's didn't promote the show

Or that platz didn't have a friend with pull in high places (like judging panels)

Platz was clearly superior

if platz woulda been freinds with ( the oak ) he woulda won, i said it for ya figo, lol. this is a great thread figo for us old timers  ;D


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Post by: Figo on April 24, 2012, 11:49:47 AM
if platz woulda been freinds with ( the oak ) he woulda won, i said it for ya figo, lol. this is a great thread figo for us old timers  ;D

I'm still in my 30s!!!!! (Late)

But a fan of the 70s and 80s
 ;)


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Post by: Natural_O on April 24, 2012, 08:24:03 PM
Sergio and Arnold at the 1972 Olympia


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Post by: willie mosconi on April 26, 2012, 04:55:43 PM
What has Platz been up to since he retired from bodybuilding?


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Post by: Glass Gorilla on April 26, 2012, 05:41:39 PM
What has Platz been up to since he retired from bodybuilding?

Selling used cars.


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Post by: willie mosconi on April 26, 2012, 06:09:56 PM
Selling used cars.

Seriously? Where?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Glass Gorilla on April 26, 2012, 06:41:43 PM
Seriously? Where?

Yeah for real. I forget where but something tells me it was on the west coast. He was peddling some fitness related stuff for awhile there too.


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Post by: jwb on April 26, 2012, 06:49:48 PM
Platz sold new and used cars in Arizona but he is now co owner of a fitness equipment retailer in LA.


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Post by: oldtimer1 on April 27, 2012, 04:34:15 AM
Sergio at his best was amazing. Can you imagine that size with that tiny waist? They always have him at 220lbs but I have an inteview where he said at his best he was 254lbs. They have him listed at 5'10" but most guys that have seen him in person said he is about 5'8". It's sad the his health is failing him. He looks so frail now.


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Post by: Natural_O on April 27, 2012, 06:44:34 AM
Sergio guest posing in 1972 in Japan


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Post by: French on April 27, 2012, 12:44:23 PM
 8)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2012, 01:02:18 PM
 8)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2012, 01:03:33 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2012, 01:04:45 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2012, 01:05:47 PM
 ;)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2012, 01:06:54 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2012, 01:07:44 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2012, 01:08:59 PM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2012, 01:10:11 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2012, 01:11:06 PM
 :D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2012, 01:12:03 PM
 :)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2012, 01:12:59 PM
 8)


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2012, 01:14:40 PM
 ;D


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2012, 01:15:56 PM
 :o


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2012, 01:17:12 PM
 ;)


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Post by: dr.chimps on April 28, 2012, 02:08:12 PM
;)
Tony Pearson before the facework. 


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 29, 2012, 04:30:23 AM
Tony Pearson before the facework. 
:-\


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Post by: Figo on April 29, 2012, 05:16:24 AM
What was pearson thinking trying to compare legs with platz


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Post by: wes on April 29, 2012, 05:30:16 AM
What was pearson thinking trying to compare legs with platz
Very ballsy move!!  :D


the 1982 Nats pics are great................... .awesome contest!!


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Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 29, 2012, 06:05:03 AM
.

Great pic, but how Rich ever placed 2nd-3rd in the Mr O. was beyond me.  He came in shape 95% of the time, but he had waaaay too many structure flaws and not nearly enough mass.  Rich couldn't beat Haney on his worst day.


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Post by: che on April 29, 2012, 06:40:15 AM
Bodybuilding used to be awesome (no homo)


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Post by: funk51 on April 29, 2012, 06:41:49 AM
:)
pat neve still in great shape, bigtime auto dealer. uncrowned mr a


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Post by: funk51 on April 29, 2012, 06:51:00 AM
:D
dale ruplinger when he overbulked.


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Post by: dj181 on April 29, 2012, 07:04:13 AM
my father


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on April 29, 2012, 07:23:17 AM
my father
briam eastman is your father?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: dj181 on April 29, 2012, 07:27:55 AM
briam eastman is your father?

no man, but i was trained by bob lorimer if that counts for anything ;D

eastman was the spokemodel for the universal bodybuilding courses that used to appear in the marvel comic book mags back in the 70s and 80s


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Post by: crownshep on April 29, 2012, 07:58:45 AM
robby and Mike


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Post by: arce1988 on April 29, 2012, 02:59:07 PM
  Great pics...


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Post by: Natural_O on April 29, 2012, 03:57:42 PM
Arnold - 1974


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Post by: Thespritz0 on April 30, 2012, 08:42:58 AM
robby and Mike
^^
That's Robby, JOE WEIDER, and Lou Ferrigno- not Mike.  I met Mike in 1994.


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Post by: crownshep on April 30, 2012, 08:58:56 AM
^^
That's Robby, JOE WEIDER, and Lou Ferrigno- not Mike.  I met Mike in 1994.

I know,its Robby and Mike in the first pic.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: willie mosconi on May 09, 2012, 06:37:54 AM
At Gold's they have installed a large video screen in the first room. Currently, they are only playing 2 videos on it- Pumping Iron and the 2011 Mr. Olympia.

It is startling the contrast of the '70s physiques to the present physiques. Things have definitely taken a dramatic turn for the worse. Guts everywhere, even on supposedly retro guys like Dexter. It is a total shame. The general public at the gym notices this too- "why does he have a belly?", etc.

The worst in terms of guts at the '11 Olympia was Dennis James- he actually looks pregnant at the show. The "powers that be" in bodybuilding can't do anything about this?


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Post by: fathead on May 09, 2012, 08:49:45 AM
Dennis James didnt do the 2011 Olympia


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Post by: hazbin on May 09, 2012, 08:58:17 AM
At Gold's they have installed a large video screen in the first room. Currently, they are only playing 2 videos on it- Pumping Iron and the 2011 Mr. Olympia.

It is startling the contrast of the '70s physiques to the present physiques. Things have definitely taken a dramatic turn for the worse. Guts everywhere, even on supposedly retro guys like Dexter. It is a total shame. The general public at the gym notices this too- "why does he have a belly?", etc.

The worst in terms of guts at the '11 Olympia was Dennis James- he actually looks pregnant at the show. The "powers that be" in bodybuilding can't do anything about this?

i've stated this before on here. if they stop rewarding physiques with big bellies, the guys will stop using the drugs that cause the distention. no need for drug testing, just start placing guys lower for having big guts.


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Post by: dantelis on May 09, 2012, 09:23:23 AM
i've stated this before on here. if they stop rewarding physiques with big bellies, the guys will stop using the drugs that cause the distention. no need for drug testing, just start placing guys lower for having big guts.

I second that statement.  Add a mandatory pose where the competitors have to do a vacuum and pull in their abs like Haney or Zane are doing in these shots.  If they can't do this mandatory pose, they would be quickly marked down and be out of the money.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=468202;image)(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2010/10-643-02/Frank-Zane-5_380.jpg)


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Post by: Figo on May 09, 2012, 09:29:47 AM
I second that statement.  Add a mandatory pose where the competitors have to do a vacuum and pull in their abs like Haney or Zane are doing in these shots.  If they can't do this mandatory pose, they would be quickly marked down and be out of the money.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=468202;image)(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2010/10-643-02/Frank-Zane-5_380.jpg)

I fully agree with you and hazbin, but that would eliminate 95%of the guys now

Its like in formula 1, it would be great to go back to slicks, no gadgets and actual driving. But people would call that regressing

 


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Post by: njflex on May 09, 2012, 09:40:48 AM
bbing has regressed where magazines have no bearing,need,due to internet and lack of interest due to way bbing has turned off the public view of it as a sport/hobby.at one time ben weider wanted the ioc to recognize it for olympic event ,never came to fruition.they do have the world games and international fed's ,but ioc would have been there dream.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: dantelis on May 09, 2012, 10:16:53 AM
I fully agree with you and hazbin, but that would eliminate 95%of the guys now

Its like in formula 1, it would be great to go back to slicks, no gadgets and actual driving. But people would call that regressing

 

That would eliminate the guys who don't adapt.  If they end up with 1 or 2 years of shows with only a few competitors, that is the price to pay to right the system.  Though you'd lose the hardcore fans who want big, bloated bodybuilders who have way too much muscle for their frame (250-60 lbs on a person 5'8" tall is ridiculous), you would actually gain more fans who see aesthetic, obtainable physiques that are the ideal, rather than freaky, mass-monsters who are a joke.


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Post by: wes on May 09, 2012, 10:50:33 AM
(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2010/10-643-02/Frank-Zane-5_380.jpg)

Awesome fucking shot of Zane!!


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Post by: njflex on May 09, 2012, 12:43:26 PM
(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2010/10-643-02/Frank-Zane-5_380.jpg)

Awesome fucking shot of Zane!!
STELLAR,,,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: funk51 on May 09, 2012, 02:33:18 PM
i've stated this before on here. if they stop rewarding physiques with big bellies, the guys will stop using the drugs that cause the distention. no need for drug testing, just start placing guys lower for having big guts.
TRUE.....


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: willie mosconi on May 09, 2012, 04:20:23 PM
Dennis James didnt do the 2011 Olympia

well, whatever Olympia they were showing, Dennis James looked awful


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Natural_O on May 09, 2012, 06:19:10 PM
bbing has regressed where magazines have no bearing,need,due to internet and lack of interest due to way bbing has turned off the public view of it as a sport/hobby.at one time ben weider wanted the ioc to recognize it for olympic event ,never came to fruition.they do have the world games and international fed's ,but ioc would have been there dream.

This is a great point and one that is never mentioned about what is wrong with the sport today. The magazines suck and, because of the internet, are basically irrelevant today. When I was a kid, the magazines were what really got me interested in the stars of bodybuilding and in the upcoming contests. The pictures, the articles about the different personalities, the training articles, etc. Today, the magazines are filled with blown up freaks training with chains and their veins exploding from their bodies. It's a total freak show. They try to hype up the Olympia each year but it gets worse year after year. There are no personalities, no class, no real rivalries. It's all drugs, drugs, drugs and it's a freak show.


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Post by: hazbin on May 09, 2012, 06:33:56 PM
1990


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Post by: Schmoff on May 09, 2012, 06:37:44 PM
1990

were you natural there?



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Post by: njflex on May 09, 2012, 06:38:48 PM
cool pics haz,,,,u looked good lighter carried it well looked bigger than u weighed.u looked huge later with shaved head as well...


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Post by: hazbin on May 09, 2012, 06:39:22 PM
17 years later


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on May 09, 2012, 06:40:29 PM
were you natural there?



no, first year of sauce.  i way overdieted. here is 3 weeks out.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on May 09, 2012, 06:41:17 PM
cool pics haz,,,,u looked good lighter carried it well looked bigger than u weighed.u looked huge later with shaved head as well...

thanx bro.


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Post by: Schmoff on May 09, 2012, 06:45:37 PM
no, first year of sauce.  i way overdieted. here is 3 weeks out.

impressive


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Post by: hazbin on May 09, 2012, 06:48:15 PM
impressive

i always found a way to get rid of 20-25 lbs of pure muscle in the last week before a show.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on May 09, 2012, 07:15:11 PM
Fantastic physique, Hazbin!

thank you.   i am glad that i never got into any of the easy size drugs that caused the distention.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on May 09, 2012, 11:18:26 PM
That would eliminate the guys who don't adapt.  If they end up with 1 or 2 years of shows with only a few competitors, that is the price to pay to right the system.  Though you'd lose the hardcore fans who want big, bloated bodybuilders who have way too much muscle for their frame (250-60 lbs on a person 5'8" tall is ridiculous), you would actually gain more fans who see aesthetic, obtainable physiques that are the ideal, rather than freaky, mass-monsters who are a joke.

What you're saying is 100% spot on

But cannot happen

The promoters and industry would decline short term, and although it would increase revenue long term and have benefits all round. The shrt term buck is what matters to the hustlers.


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Post by: Figo on May 09, 2012, 11:27:35 PM
Saddest thing is, whilst we in this thread are sharing distaste for current physiques,

The current generation has grown up with this, to the point that haney was a

swimmer, zane was a marathon runner and gaspari and labrada were gym rats in

their(not all, but some of the kids)  perspective...

And to think, that at a time, haney, belknap, mendenhall, king etc were monsters,

And to some "too much" already...

IMO, ud have to be blind not to notice that when the gut girth exceeds chest girth, somethings not right


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on May 10, 2012, 09:50:18 AM
Saddest thing is, whilst we in this thread are sharing distaste for current physiques,

The current generation has grown up with this, to the point that haney was a

swimmer, zane was a marathon runner and gaspari and labrada were gym rats in

their(not all, but some of the kids)  perspective...

And to think, that at a time, haney, belknap, mendenhall, king etc were monsters,

And to some "too much" already...

IMO, ud have to be blind not to notice that when the gut girth exceeds chest girth, somethings not right

great points...


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Post by: willie mosconi on May 10, 2012, 07:10:35 PM
Saddest thing is, whilst we in this thread are sharing distaste for current physiques,

The current generation has grown up with this, to the point that haney was a

swimmer, zane was a marathon runner and gaspari and labrada were gym rats in

their(not all, but some of the kids)  perspective...

And to think, that at a time, haney, belknap, mendenhall, king etc were monsters,

And to some "too much" already...

IMO, ud have to be blind not to notice that when the gut girth exceeds chest girth, somethings not right


I actually think that some of the younger generation is also disgusted with the current state of affairs in bodybuilding. I think most people- including young people- frown upon the guts.

It seems like things have a chance to turn around with Heath- as he is not a monstrosity like Yates or Coleman


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Post by: Marshdogg on May 10, 2012, 07:40:31 PM
I actually think that some of the younger generation is also disgusted with the current state of affairs in bodybuilding. I think most people- including young people- frown upon the guts.

It seems like things have a chance to turn around with Heath- as he is not a monstrosity like Yates or Coleman

As an early 20 year old - yes. Coleman / Cutler are disgusting.


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Post by: Figo on May 11, 2012, 04:38:18 AM
I actually think that some of the younger generation is also disgusted with the current state of affairs in bodybuilding. I think most people- including young people- frown upon the guts.

It seems like things have a chance to turn around with Heath- as he is not a monstrosity like Yates or Coleman
All true, that's why I phrased it "some"

But heath is also filled with seo in delts and arms boatloads of slin and gh
Whatever happened to "attainable" physiques where all you had to do to emulate your heroes was train, eat, have good structure, and an amazing response to a boatload of anabolics! The good ol days..


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on May 29, 2012, 07:23:43 AM
Great pic, but how Rich ever placed 2nd-3rd in the Mr O. was beyond me.  He came in shape 95% of the time, but he had waaaay too many structure flaws and not nearly enough mass.  Rich couldn't beat Haney on his worst day.
X2......Very true statement!


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Post by: gracie bjj on May 29, 2012, 08:41:27 AM
it seems like once haneys run was over the olympia went downhill, sure the guys got bigger but i dont think they got better


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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 29, 2012, 11:25:32 AM
 :o


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Post by: willie mosconi on July 21, 2012, 10:11:05 PM
So, apparently the Gold's Gym in Redondo Beach has switched management and is no longer affiliated with Gold's Gym. I found this out today after driving all the way down there to find out that they wouldn't allow me to work out there (I had a travel pass from Venice Gold's). The guy at the desk said the transfer of management happened last week.

 Is Gold's going out of business entirely, not just Venice Gold's?

Does World Gym exist anywhere any more?


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Post by: arce1988 on July 21, 2012, 10:13:10 PM
  RIP


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: jwb on July 21, 2012, 11:38:05 PM
So, apparently the Gold's Gym in Redondo Beach has switched management and is no longer affiliated with Gold's Gym. I found this out today after driving all the way down there to find out that they wouldn't allow me to work out there (I had a travel pass from Venice Gold's). The guy at the desk said the transfer of management happened last week.

 Is Gold's going out of business entirely, not just Venice Gold's?

Does World Gym exist anywhere any more?
Gold's new owners have gotten too greedy and want a slice of the gross revenue. The original owners practically gave away franchises and made their money on the T shirt sales.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on August 01, 2012, 11:12:33 PM
Awesome footage in the last video!  :D I partied with Don IN THAT EXACT GREEN VAN many times!

Thanks Kahn!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on August 02, 2012, 03:26:09 AM
Great thread still - where has Wes gone ? ???


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: d0nny2600 on August 02, 2012, 06:34:47 AM
Great thread still - where has Wes gone ? ???
He is printing up the Tbombz photo.

Page 70 xoxoxo


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Post by: Figo on August 02, 2012, 07:25:59 AM
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Post by: Figo on August 02, 2012, 07:26:58 AM
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Post by: Figo on August 02, 2012, 07:27:53 AM
.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on August 02, 2012, 07:49:47 AM
(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2010/10-643-02/Frank-Zane-5_380.jpg)

Awesome fucking shot of Zane!!
X2!!!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Figo on August 02, 2012, 07:56:12 AM
X2!!!

X 3


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: falco on August 03, 2012, 06:33:37 AM
(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2010/10-643-02/Frank-Zane-5_380.jpg)

Awesome fucking shot of Zane!!

Gutless motherf###er  :o


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Post by: gracie bjj on August 06, 2012, 12:58:57 PM
 ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 06, 2012, 01:00:41 PM
 8)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: gracie bjj on August 06, 2012, 01:12:37 PM
dont know if i posted this one already, if i did my bad


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 06, 2012, 01:20:53 PM
dont know if i posted this one already, if i did my bad

Great shot


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Post by: hazbin on August 06, 2012, 01:43:08 PM
shop


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Old School Trainer on August 06, 2012, 06:27:58 PM
Couple of years late for his comeback.  91 was about the best HW class at the Nationals ever.  Some of the best calves I've ever seen in person.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: gracie bjj on August 08, 2012, 01:24:17 PM
 ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wild willie on August 08, 2012, 03:20:35 PM
;)
Excellent pic.....Thanks, gracie!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on August 08, 2012, 05:32:57 PM
;)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402410.0;attach=480013;image)
CRAZEE WEAR !!


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on August 08, 2012, 05:42:16 PM
CRAZEE WEAR !!
Did you ever get into the clothing back then Wes - the spandex etc ? The top the Bob has on looks cool and comfy but some of those pants lol look like curtain material - I guess that was the BB attitude in the Cali area though - freaksville and be seen and stand out.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on August 08, 2012, 05:48:24 PM
Did you ever get into the clothing back then Wes - the spandex etc ? The top the Bob has on looks cool and comfy but some of those pants lol look like curtain material - I guess that was the BB attitude in the Cali area though - freaksville and be seen and stand out.
they were sorta comfortable they got uglier and crazier patterns as early 90's came in ,,i did wear some of it lol,,,


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on August 08, 2012, 06:04:32 PM
Did you ever get into the clothing back then Wes - the spandex etc ? The top the Bob has on looks cool and comfy but some of those pants lol look like curtain material - I guess that was the BB attitude in the Cali area though - freaksville and be seen and stand out.
Will,I never got into the spandex because my legs are twiglike!  ;D

I did however wear all those baggy multi-colored sweats with skulls,zig zags,stripes,and shit like that.................we all looked stupid so I just fit right in.  ;D

I actually still have a pair of No Limits sweatpants and a T-Michael shirt as well as a few Baggy BoyZ shirts.............I don`t wear them though,just hard to part with as they are cool and not outlandishly loud or weird looking.



Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on August 08, 2012, 06:05:18 PM
Will,I never got into the spandex because my legs are twiglike!  ;D

I did however wear all those baggy multi-colored sweats with skulls,zig zags,stripes,and shit like that.................we all looked stupid so I just fit right in.  ;D

I actually still have a pair of No Limits sweatpants and a T-Michael shirt as well as a few Baggy BoyZ shirts.............I don`t wear them though,just hard to part with as they are cool and not outlandishly loud or weird looking.


;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on August 08, 2012, 06:14:51 PM
;D
STOP LAUGHING AT ME!! ;D

I keep them for nostalgias sake and often wear them on Halloween!  LOL ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: chaos on August 08, 2012, 06:19:31 PM
STOP LAUGHING AT ME!! ;D

I keep them for nostalgias sake and often wear them on Halloween!  LOL ;D
30 years of juicing later and they're still loose on you, huh? :D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on August 08, 2012, 06:20:12 PM
30 years of juicing later and they're still loose on you, huh? :D
LOL ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: chaos on August 08, 2012, 06:21:14 PM
When does getbig get some updated panty pics from you? Or are those reserved for your "bros" at the other board "bro"?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on August 08, 2012, 06:22:34 PM
30 years of juicing later and they're still loose on you, huh? :D
juicing is good for you..carrots,fruits,broccolli,just run em through and drink...that how wes keeps his girlish figure...


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Deadpool on August 08, 2012, 06:22:40 PM
speaking of The Clothing back then, does anyone remember the brand BODY ALIVE?  It's logo was a bodybuilder's head and torso with his arms crossed in a triangle. Anyone?


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on August 08, 2012, 06:23:41 PM
When does getbig get some updated panty pics from you? Or are those reserved for your "bros" at the other board "bro"?
Body is still under construction............ .......I will look awesome if all goes according to plan if I don`t die or fall and  break a hip or some shit.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: bike nut on August 08, 2012, 06:24:06 PM
Will,I never got into the spandex because my legs are twiglike!  ;D

I did however wear all those baggy multi-colored sweats with skulls,zig zags,stripes,and shit like that.................we all looked stupid so I just fit right in.  ;D

I actually still have a pair of No Limits sweatpants and a T-Michael shirt as well as a few Baggy BoyZ shirts.............I don`t wear them though,just hard to part with as they are cool and not outlandishly loud or weird looking.



I'd pull your Zubaz down and smack yer ass Lil Fella..... ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on August 08, 2012, 06:25:28 PM
I'd pull your Zubaz down and smack yer ass Lil Fella..... ;D
I might just like that depending on my mood, you big stud you!  :D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: viking1 on August 08, 2012, 06:27:30 PM
speaking of The Clothing back then, does anyone remember the brand BODY ALIVE?  It's logo was a bodybuilder's head and torso with his arms crossed in a triangle. Anyone?


(http://www.bestforminc.com/images/categories/cat_1_icon.JPG)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on August 08, 2012, 06:28:36 PM
(http://www.bestforminc.com/images/categories/cat_1_icon.JPG)
Still got two Body Alive items also.

Boy,I`m setting myself up for some beatings here.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: chaos on August 08, 2012, 06:28:39 PM
I might just like that depending on my mood, you big stud you!  :D
Outed













AGAIN


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on August 08, 2012, 06:31:31 PM
Outed
wes is turning into liberace as we speak....













AGAIN


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: bike nut on August 08, 2012, 06:32:07 PM
I might just like that depending on my mood, you big stud you!  :D

I got an old pic of me, Ron Love and Belknap around here somewhere and we all have on pink/black spandex tights.  ;D

If I find it I'll post it up for ridicule.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on August 08, 2012, 06:33:28 PM
That would be awesome bike!

I`m losing face here bigtime! 


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: njflex on August 08, 2012, 06:40:22 PM
That would be awesome bike!

I`m losing face here bigtime! 
:-\...you'll recover...


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: chaos on August 08, 2012, 06:41:22 PM
:-\...you'll recover...
LMAO, not at his age.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: bike nut on August 08, 2012, 06:54:43 PM
STOP LAUGHING AT ME!! ;D

I keep them for nostalgias sake and often wear them on Halloween!  LOL ;D

Extra style points if you include a fanny pack.... ;D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: hazbin on August 08, 2012, 07:22:25 PM
CRAZEE WEAR !!

i sold Crazee Wear, and was the western Canadian rep for Mike Christian's Platinum Everywear.

met Mike a few times and actually spent time with Mike down at his clothing plant in California.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 08, 2012, 07:32:10 PM
Robby Robinson is in the picture !!!!  can you find him?



WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: tommywishbone on August 08, 2012, 07:45:34 PM
Strydom is ENORMOUS in this pic.


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: gracie bjj on August 09, 2012, 12:09:39 AM
i still sport the fanny pack :-[ i still got some T-michael wear and gorilla wear also, i just use them to sleep in or around the house since they r from the mid 90,s :D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: gracie bjj on August 09, 2012, 02:09:05 AM
 ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: gracie bjj on August 09, 2012, 02:09:54 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: gracie bjj on August 09, 2012, 02:10:59 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on August 09, 2012, 02:25:09 AM
Extra style points if you include a fanny pack.... ;D
That goes without saying!  ;)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: WillGrant on August 09, 2012, 02:33:34 AM
Robby Robinson is in the picture !!!!  can you find him?



WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
hahaha I just noticed him


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: gracie bjj on August 09, 2012, 02:36:55 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: wes on August 09, 2012, 02:48:08 AM
Thanks to my man gracie for changing the subject and getting those guys off my ass.

Gonna` put on my No Limitz gear with a bandanna on my head,1 gallon jug of water,Ottomix high tops, and blast my delts today!  :D


Title: Re: Golds Gym - "The Mecca", when it really was "The Mecca"
Post by: gracie bjj on August 09, 2012, 02:51:17 AM