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Title: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2011, 09:55:21 AM
LOL.   it was Obama who supported this! 



Senator Levin: It was Obama who required Indefinite Detainment Bill INCLUDE U.S. Citizens
sherriequestioningall ^ | December 11, 2011



Well now we know, for those who have been holding out “hope” that Obama will veto the 1031 Indefinite Detainment Bill against holding U.S. Citizens without rights to a trial or lawyer or charges for the rest of their lives…. It was Obama who required the bill have the language of U.S. Citizens being held without rights in the bill! The only reason he would veto it, is because it does not give him the absolute power as he wants!

...Here is Senator Levin on the floor of the Senate revealing it was Obama himself who Demanded U.S. Citizens be part of the Indefinite Detainment Bill!


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Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Option D on December 13, 2011, 10:14:25 AM
LOL.   it was Obama who supported this! 



Senator Levin: It was Obama who required Indefinite Detainment Bill INCLUDE U.S. Citizens
sherriequestioningall ^ | December 11, 2011



Well now we know, for those who have been holding out “hope” that Obama will veto the 1031 Indefinite Detainment Bill against holding U.S. Citizens without rights to a trial or lawyer or charges for the rest of their lives…. It was Obama who required the bill have the language of U.S. Citizens being held without rights in the bill! The only reason he would veto it, is because it does not give him the absolute power as he wants!

...Here is Senator Levin on the floor of the Senate revealing it was Obama himself who Demanded U.S. Citizens be part of the Indefinite Detainment Bill!


(Excerpt) Read more at sherriequestioningall.bl ogspot.com ...


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Whats wrong Becca... you mad about the other thread.. you do this often. Get owned and then start another thread.

What dont you understand . Im voting for Paul. I understand that yeah Obama is disappointing me on some ends. You.. who voted for Bush, that left
the nation in shambles, felt that he did a bang up job for the majority of his tenure. Classic party line robot shit.

I've stated that as long as there is money in politics, shit is gunna be fucked. But you're retarded ass feels like there is some super GOP member that will come in and in one swoop change the landscape of our country. You are the fucking moron that feels like the country went from great to shit in 3 years. I actually feel sorry for you. You're understanding of the progression of American Politics, economy, military policy and constitutional law coupled with you idea of responsible journalism is alarming to say the least.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Dos Equis on December 13, 2011, 10:17:18 AM
Media is silent about this.  Shocking.   ::)
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: 240 is Back on December 13, 2011, 10:18:04 AM
Media is silent about this.  Shocking.   ::)

FOX news did a great piece on a deer that ran thru a supermarket.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2011, 10:18:16 AM
LOL   - you are so scared of Newt - yet you sit silent while Obama does the very things that you fear most from Newt.   Priceless.  
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Option D on December 13, 2011, 10:23:27 AM
LOL   - you are so scared of Newt - yet you sit silent while Obama does the very things that you fear most from Newt.   Priceless.  

Who.. me..

cmon man.. i dont give a shit about newt.. Its just funny that you come out with these police state shits and then when newt openly says he wants to expand the police state. you ignore it.. and ive stated for the zillioneth time ( i swear youre fucking dumb) that im voting for Paul, yeah the guy that dosent want the police state.. and actually had to argue with your guy newt for.. But youre for constitutional rights... hahahah give me a break Dianne
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Option D on December 13, 2011, 11:05:04 AM
BUMP
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 13, 2011, 11:09:30 AM
Whats wrong Becca... you mad about the other thread.. you do this often. Get owned and then start another thread.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2011, 11:10:53 AM
Who.. me..

cmon man.. i dont give a shit about newt.. Its just funny that you come out with these police state shits and then when newt openly says he wants to expand the police state. you ignore it.. and ive stated for the zillioneth time ( i swear youre fucking dumb) that im voting for Paul, yeah the guy that dosent want the police state.. and actually had to argue with your guy newt for.. But youre for constitutional rights... hahahah give me a break Dianne


I am A B O - why is that so hard for you to grasp?  newt is my least favorite repub of all of them.   

The AIDS riddled homeless bum on the corner would be better than this disaster we have in office.     
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Skip8282 on December 13, 2011, 04:19:24 PM
Just finger pointing now.  One way or another, they're going to slip this shit in as both sides seem hell bent on having it in one way or another - IMO.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Straw Man on December 13, 2011, 04:25:02 PM
Just finger pointing now.  One way or another, they're going to slip this shit in as both sides seem hell bent on having it in one way or another - IMO.

interesting how these fucks can somehow put their vast ideological differences aside and work together when it comes to taking away our civil liberties

Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Skip8282 on December 13, 2011, 05:11:21 PM
interesting how these fucks can somehow put their vast ideological differences aside and work together when it comes to taking away our civil liberties





Yes, these committee members often become close to, and deeply entwined with the members of the executive who are looking for their next round of finance and law changes.  Of course, the remaining members are just as guilty because most of them will never bother to even read what the committee puts out anyway.

I've wondered if an amendment restricting the number of laws over a period of time would do any good.  Then I think, well they wouldn't use it anyway.  Shit would still go unread and they'd just fuck off to some vacation spot or something.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on December 13, 2011, 07:31:31 PM
I remember when some people who warned us of indefinite detainment of U.S. citizens  years ago would be accused of wearing a tin foil hat. My, how things have changed.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: 240 is Back on December 13, 2011, 08:16:53 PM
Just finger pointing now.  One way or another, they're going to slip this shit in as both sides seem hell bent on having it in one way or another - IMO.

amen.

Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2011, 07:27:40 AM
‘Indefinite Detention’ Bill Heads To Obama’s Desk As White House Drops Veto Threat
         

Establishment media and neo-cons still pretend NDAA doesn’t apply to American citizens

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Wednesday, December 14, 2011




UPDATE: Obama has dropped his threat to veto the bill and is now expected to sign it into law. Remember – it was Obama’s White House that demanded the law apply to U.S. citizens in the first place.

The bill which would codify into law the indefinite detention without trial of American citizens is about to be passed and sent to Obama’s desk to be signed into law, even as some news outlets still erroneously report that the legislation does not apply to U.S. citizens.


“The House on Wednesday afternoon approved the rule for the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), setting up an hour of debate and a vote in the House later this afternoon,” reports the Hill.

Mainstream news outlets like The Hill, as well as neo-con blogs like Red State, are still pretending the indefinite detention provision doesn’t apply to American citizens, even though three of the bill’s primary sponsors, Senator Carl Levin, Senator John McCain, and Senator Lindsey Graham, said it does during speeches on the Senate floor.

“It is not unfair to make an American citizen account for the fact that they decided to help Al Qaeda to kill us all and hold them as long as it takes to find intelligence about what may be coming next,” remarked Graham. “And when they say, ‘I want my lawyer,’ you tell them, ‘Shut up. You don’t get a lawyer.’”

As Levin said last week, it was the White House itself that demanded Section 1031 apply to American citizens.
A d v e r t i s e m e n t
“The language which precluded the application of Section 1031 to American citizens was in the bill that we originally approved…and the administration asked us to remove the language which says that U.S. citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section,” said Levin, Chairman of the Armed Services Committee.

Senator McCain also told Rand Paul during a hearing on the bill that American citizens could be declared an enemy combatant, sent to Guantanamo Bay and detained indefinitely, “no matter who they are.”

Quite how those still in denial could even entertain the notion that the bill would not apply to American citizens when the Obama administration is already enforcing a policy of state assassination and killing American citizens it claims are “terrorists,” without having to present any evidence or go through any legal process, is beyond naive.

With the White House having largely resolved its concerns with the bill, which had nothing to do with the ‘indefinite detention’ provision, Obama could put pen to paper as early as tomorrow on a law that if recognized will nullify the bill of rights – ironically tomorrow is “Bill of Rights Day”.

Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: OzmO on December 15, 2011, 07:39:47 AM
Nah,fellas....

Let's argue political ideology and media bias some more that way it will lube us up more for the ass fucking we continue to get. 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2011, 08:01:58 AM
Straw - if its ron paul or Obama - who do you vote for? 



Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Option D on December 15, 2011, 08:03:12 AM
Straw - if its ron paul or Obama - who do you vote for? 




shut up bitch
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2011, 08:05:22 AM
shut up bitch


LOL - it must be killing you inside knowing Obama demanded this language in the bill and is now desperate to sign it.   
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Option D on December 15, 2011, 08:31:19 AM

LOL - it must be killing you inside knowing Obama demanded this language in the bill and is now desperate to sign it.   


why... if i dont plan on voting for him?

ps.. i didnt look at the youtube...

ps.. im voting for ron paul



















again... im voting for ron paul















get it....










not voting for obama..









voting for ron paul.....







the old guy






ron paul...







do you understand






ron paul is who im voting for........
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: OzmO on December 15, 2011, 08:55:56 AM
Once a kneepadder always a kneepadder?   :o :D  jk
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Dos Equis on December 15, 2011, 09:45:54 AM
Ron Paul appeared on "prison planet tv" with that nut Alex Jones?  That's the kind of thing that will keep him from being a legitimate contender. 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2011, 09:47:52 AM
Ron Paul appeared on "prison planet tv" with that nut Alex Jones?  That's the kind of thing that will keep him from being a legitimate contender. 

Why?   The interview was on fast n furious, this bill, spending, etc.   
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Option D on December 15, 2011, 10:00:04 AM
Ron Paul appeared on "prison planet tv" with that nut Alex Jones?  That's the kind of thing that will keep him from being a legitimate contender. 
WOW


Unlike the double talking Romney
or
Blowhard Cheater (aren't you as an uber-christian against such acts or does it go out of the window when politics come into play?) Newt
or
Complete idiot Perry
or
I'm against income tax but work for the IRS Bachman?

Man this is Sad
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2011, 10:01:00 AM
Obama to approve indefinite detention and torture of Americans
Russia Today (Go Vlad Go!) ^



Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:23:08 AM

Less than a month after he threatened to veto terrifying legislation that would cease constitutional rights as we know it, Obama has revoked his warning and plans to authorize a bill allowing indefinite detention and torture of Americans.

After passing in the House of Representatives earlier this year, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 went before the US Senate last week, where it was met with overwhelming approval. In the days before, the Obama administration issued a policy statement on November 17 saying explicitly that the president would veto the bill, as it would challenge “the president’s critical authorities to collect intelligence incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the nation.”

Opposition from the White House seemed all but rampant until RT revealed earlier this week that Senator Carl Levin told lawmakers that the legislation was altered because “the administration asked us to remove the language which says that US citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section.”

On Wednesday, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said that those last minute changes yielded legislation that would “not challenge the president’s ability to collect intelligence, incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the American people,” and therefore “the president’s senior advisers will not recommend a veto.”

Originally the White House said that the administration objected to matters in the bill that applied to detainees. Under the act, Americans could be arrested and held indefinitely in military-run prisons and tortured without charges ever being brought forth, essentially making Guantanamo Bay a threat for every American citizen.

Under the legislation, a literal police state will be installed over the United States. Republican Congressman Ron Paul said earlier this week that “this should be the biggest news going right now,” as the legislation would allow for “literally legalizing martial law.”


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Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Dos Equis on December 15, 2011, 10:10:54 AM
Why?   The interview was on fast n furious, this bill, spending, etc.   

Because Alex Jones is a 911 CT nut and nobody takes those nuts seriously.  I'm really surprised he would do that, especially when he had to publicly reject 911 CT nuts during the 2008 debates. 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Dos Equis on December 15, 2011, 10:12:21 AM
WOW


Unlike the double talking Romney
or
Blowhard Cheater (aren't you as an uber-christian against such acts or does it go out of the window when politics come into play?) Newt
or
Complete idiot Perry
or
I'm against income tax but work for the IRS Bachman?

Man this is Sad

I don't really care who wins the nomination, as long is it is someone who can beat Obama. 

What is an "uber-Christian"? 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Option D on December 15, 2011, 10:32:52 AM
Gotta love what American politics has become
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2011, 10:38:27 AM
Gotta love what American politics has become


Truth - We have an openly communist potus now.   His Kansas speech dropped all pretenses that he was ever anything but a marxist communist wrecking ball. 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 15, 2011, 11:34:08 AM
I don't really care who wins the nomination, as long is it is someone who can beat Obama. 

What is an "uber-Christian"? 

Even if that person is incompetent, batshit, crazy, unqualified, and the biggest Washington insider in existence.

Gotcha.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2011, 11:36:14 AM
Even if that person is incompetent, batshit, crazy, unqualified, and the biggest Washington insider in existence.

Gotcha.

YES!!!! 

Dont you fucking get it yet? 

Jesus dude - anyone  - YES ANYONE -  would be better than Obama.   No matter what the god damn issue - there is one certainty - Obama will do the wrong thing.   name an issue and obama is fucking it up.   
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 15, 2011, 11:37:55 AM
^^^

Hence the reason that no one takes you seriously.

Replacing one factor in a failing scheme with another that is the same or worse and expecting BETTER?
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Dos Equis on December 15, 2011, 11:38:40 AM
Even if that person is incompetent, batshit, crazy, unqualified, and the biggest Washington insider in existence.

Gotcha.

There is no one running on the Republican side who fits that description. 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2011, 11:40:50 AM
^^^

Hence the reason that no one takes you seriously.

Replacing one factor in a failing scheme with another that is the same or worse and expecting BETTER?

Name the issue.   Please-    Name one issue and I will show you how obama is making things drastically worse.   

Inflation - check
Energy - check
Health Care - check
Police state - check
Debt - check
corruption - check 
monetary/fiscal policy - check   




name the issue and there is almoast 100% certainty obama is fucking it up.   
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 15, 2011, 12:11:46 PM
There is no one running on the Republican side who fits that description. 

Bachmann = batshit crazy
Incompetent/Unqualified = Perry & Cain
Washington Insider =  Newt.  Now really....  you had to ignore this one???

You can justify them in your own eyes simply because of your one dimensional reasons, but THANK GOD the rest of the country doesn't agree.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 15, 2011, 12:12:22 PM
Name the issue.   Please-    Name one issue and I will show you how obama is making things drastically worse.   

Inflation - check
Energy - check
Health Care - check
Police state - check
Debt - check
corruption - check 
monetary/fiscal policy - check   




name the issue and there is almoast 100% certainty obama is fucking it up.   


Someone the same or worse will actually make it better?

Only in your La-La Land.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2011, 12:18:18 PM
Someone the same or worse will actually make it better?

Only in your La-La Land.

Like I said - you can point to one thing on my list obamas policies are making better.   One and done for this asshole and mega-commie
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Dos Equis on December 15, 2011, 01:20:57 PM
Bachmann = batshit crazy
Incompetent/Unqualified = Perry & Cain
Washington Insider =  Newt.  Now really....  you had to ignore this one???

You can justify them in your own eyes simply because of your one dimensional reasons, but THANK GOD the rest of the country doesn't agree.

Bachmann isn't crazy.   ::)  Neither Perry nor Cain are incompetent or unqualified.  Both men have a wealth of experience.  Perry is a horrible debater, but being the successful governor of one of the largest states in the country during one of the worst economic periods in our country's history is pretty impressive.  And Cain has had a remarkable career.  Very smart man.  Political novice and did not handle his "scandals" well, but definitely not incompetent.

Newt is the biggest Washington insider in existence?  Hardly.  He's definitely an insider, but has not spent his entire career in DC.     

What "one dimensional reasons" are you talking about?  Not even sure what that means. 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Option D on December 15, 2011, 02:08:24 PM
Bachmann isn't crazy.   ::)  Neither Perry nor Cain are incompetent or unqualified.  Both men have a wealth of experience.  Perry is a horrible debater, but being the successful governor of one of the largest states in the country during one of the worst economic periods in our country's history is pretty impressive.  And Cain has had a remarkable career.  Very smart man.  Political novice and did not handle his "scandals" well, but definitely not incompetent.

Newt is the biggest Washington insider in existence?  Hardly.  He's definitely an insider, but has not spent his entire career in DC.     

What "one dimensional reasons" are you talking about?  Not even sure what that means. 


LMAO...all is hunky dory in the GOP Camp.. A regular think tank that is.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Dos Equis on December 15, 2011, 02:13:44 PM
LMAO...all is hunky dory in the GOP Camp.. A regular think tank that is.

Never said that.  Just addressing Lurker's comments. 

If I had my druthers, I'd like to have a choice between Colin Powell and George Mitchell in November. 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2011, 02:19:53 PM
LMAO...all is hunky dory in the GOP Camp.. A regular think tank that is.

Yeah  - cause all the brainiacs are blaming ATM machines for their woes. 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 16, 2011, 05:14:37 AM
Bachmann isn't crazy.   ::)  Neither Perry nor Cain are incompetent or unqualified.  Both men have a wealth of experience.  Perry is a horrible debater, but being the successful governor of one of the largest states in the country during one of the worst economic periods in our country's history is pretty impressive.  And Cain has had a remarkable career.  Very smart man.  Political novice and did not handle his "scandals" well, but definitely not incompetent.

Newt is the biggest Washington insider in existence?  Hardly.  He's definitely an insider, but has not spent his entire career in DC.     

What "one dimensional reasons" are you talking about?  Not even sure what that means. 


The fact that you started your reply off with this very sentence shows that you are already in denial in of the facts regarding these candidates.

Despite the fact Texas hates Perry, Cain can't remember a single thing or bothered to brush up on the last 4 years of politics before jumping in, and Bachmann simply is out of her mind half of the time.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: George Whorewell on December 16, 2011, 06:43:18 AM
Even if that person is incompetent, batshit, crazy, unqualified, and the biggest Washington insider in existence.

Gotcha.

So in other words, voting for someone exactly like Obama offends you, but re-electing Obama makes sense?

There is nobody on the GOP stage more incompetent, unqualified or a bigger Washington insider than Barak Hussein Osama.

As for the crazy part, that's a baseless charge your hurling around to discredit GOP candidates just because they disagree with you. Obama is intentionally trying to destroy America. I'll take crazy over that any day.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: George Whorewell on December 16, 2011, 06:46:40 AM
LMAO...all is hunky dory in the GOP Camp.. A regular think tank that is.

Yes and the brilliant Barak Hussein Osama is so smart! The results of his amazing intellect have been dazzling the United States since he took office. Have you noticed how much better everything has become? ::)

Some of you fucking morons are so brainwashed you should have forced lobotomies.

Staying on a sinking ship because the captain went to an ivy league school and can read from a teleprompter without drooling on himself makes perfect sense!
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2011, 07:00:45 AM
Yes and the brilliant Barak Hussein Osama is so smart! The results of his amazing intellect have been dazzling the United States since he took office. Have you noticed how much better everything has become? ::)

Some of you fucking morons are so brainwashed you should have forced lobotomies.

Staying on a sinking ship because the captain went to an ivy league school and can read from a teleprompter without drooling on himself makes perfect sense!

Anyone blaming ATM machines for job losses is beyond help.   Those agreeing with that moron are even worse. 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 16, 2011, 07:53:16 AM
If he is so stupid, then it should be quite easy for the GOP to find candidates that are smarter.

Why hasn't that happened yet?
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Skip8282 on December 16, 2011, 08:11:21 AM
If he is so stupid, then it should be quite easy for the GOP to find candidates that are smarter.

Why hasn't that happened yet?



I think Newt and RP are certainly smarter than Obama though neither is probably as politically savvy as Obama.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Dos Equis on December 16, 2011, 10:24:14 AM
The fact that you started your reply off with this very sentence shows that you are already in denial in of the facts regarding these candidates.

Despite the fact Texas hates Perry, Cain can't remember a single thing or bothered to brush up on the last 4 years of politics before jumping in, and Bachmann simply is out of her mind half of the time.

I shouldn't even have engaged you on this, because calling Bachmann "crazy" is beyond absurd, but I'll play:  what exactly is it that makes Bachmann "crazy"?  And how was she able to have a successful marriage, raise a truckload of kids, become highly educated, have a successful career in the private sector, have a successful career in politics, and become a national presidential candidate when she is "crazy"? 

Texas hates Perry?  He's the longest serving governor in Texas history.  How do you reconcile that fact with your claim that "Texas hates Perry"? 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2011, 10:25:06 AM
I shouldn't even have engaged you on this, because calling Bachmann "crazy" is beyond absurd, but I'll play:  what exactly is it that makes Bachmann "crazy"?  And how was she able to have a successful marriage, raise a truckload of kids, become highly educated, have a successful career in the private sector, have a successful career in politics, and become a national presidential candidate when she is "crazy"? 

Texas hates Perry?  He's the longest serving governor in Texas history.  How do you reconcile that fact with your claim that "Texas hates Perry"? 

notice how Lurker and Straw still cant defend Obama's record?   
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Straw Man on December 16, 2011, 10:36:37 AM
notice how Lurker and Straw still cant defend Obama's record?   

I supported/defended him on some things and criticized him on many things as well

You're just too blind with irrational/crazy hatred and rage to even notice it
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: George Whorewell on December 16, 2011, 06:49:05 PM
If he is so stupid, then it should be quite easy for the GOP to find candidates that are smarter.

Why hasn't that happened yet?

Don't be an idiot.

You think being elected President has anything to do with intelligence? Was GW Bush elected twice because he was so brilliant?

Obama has the entire media in his pocket and even the GOP debates are moderated by his cronies. He has raised close to 1 billion dollars for his reelection effort. That's billion with a B. Historically the incumbent has an edge in Presidential elections.


Year   Candidate   Votes   Candidate   Votes   Winner   Notes
Presidential elections since 1936 with an incumbent
1936   Roosevelt   523   Landon   8   Incumbent   [116]
1940   Roosevelt   449   Willkie   82   Incumbent   [117]
1944   Roosevelt   432   Dewey   99   Incumbent   [117]
1948   Truman   303   Dewey   189   Incumbent   [117]
1956   Eisenhower   457   Stevenson   73   Incumbent   [117]
1964   Johnson   486   Goldwater   52   Incumbent   [117]
1972   Nixon   520   McGovern   17   Incumbent   [117]
1976   Carter   297   Ford   240   Challenger   [117]
1980   Reagan   489   Carter   49   Challenger   [117]
1984   Reagan   525   Mondale   13   Incumbent   [117]
1992   Clinton   370   GHW Bush   168   Challenger   [117]
1996   Clinton   379   Dole   159   Incumbent   [117]
2004   GW Bush   286   Kerry   252   Incumbent   [118]


Finally, Osama has the mindless black vote, the equally mindless class warfare vote, the bicycle seat sniffing white intellectual lib vote, all labor unions as his acting henchmen and several other constituencies that make up his broad based leper colony of support.

And FYI genius, not a single vote has been cast in a single primary. It's kind of hard to dethrone Obama when the GOP hasn't even chosen a nominee. Obama's idiocy will be a spectacle for the world to see once the debates start. The only GOP candidate who probably lacks the heart or will or desire to cut Obama's balls off on national television is Romney-- hence most GOP voters are extremely unenthusiastic about voting for him.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 19, 2011, 05:19:35 AM
Don't be an idiot.

You think being elected President has anything to do with intelligence?

You quoted me, so I know that you can't say you didn't read my post, and then follow up with the above rant that is prefaced with these two sentences?

Not a single part of my reply had anything to do with intelligence and bearing upon the POTUS office.  My statement is a direct reflection of not a single candidate the GOP is offering is smarter than Obama.  Which seems to go against the grain with the "Obama is so stupid" crying.  It wouldn't matter if Obama was a janitor for my statement to relevant.  Yours however, not even sure WTF you are trying to drag out there.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2011, 05:22:55 AM
You quoted me, so I know that you can't say you didn't read my post, and then follow up with the above rant that is prefaced with these two sentences?

Not a single part of my reply had anything to do with intelligence and bearing upon the POTUS office.  My statement is a direct reflection of not a single candidate the GOP is offering is smarter than Obama.  Which seems to go against the grain with the "Obama is so stupid" crying.  It wouldn't matter if Obama was a janitor for my statement to relevant.  Yours however, not even sure WTF you are trying to drag out there.

LMFAO!!!!    Are you fucking kidding?   Damn you are stupid. 

Ron Paul going around blaming ATM Machines for job losses?   

Newt going around accusing doctors of lopping off feet for 50K and stealing tonsils? 

Bachmann going around saying the Free Market has never worked? 

Santorum going around 57 states, my muslim faith, etc





Fucking please - this post cemented you are a perennial joke and a farce.     
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 19, 2011, 05:27:53 AM
I shouldn't even have engaged you on this, because calling Bachmann "crazy" is beyond absurd, but I'll play:  what exactly is it that makes Bachmann "crazy"?  And how was she able to have a successful marriage, raise a truckload of kids, become highly educated, have a successful career in the private sector, have a successful career in politics, and become a national presidential candidate when she is "crazy"? 

Texas hates Perry?  He's the longest serving governor in Texas history.  How do you reconcile that fact with your claim that "Texas hates Perry"? 

Bachmann - God sends an earthquake to get politicians attention?  Mental retardation after the vaccine injection?  God speaking through her husband telling her to pursue tax law when she didn't want to simply because the bible says wives are supposed to be submissive?  Carbon dioxide is not a harmful gas?   If we took away the minimum wage -- if conceivably it was gone -- we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level?  Founding Fathers - which she thinks John Quincy Adams was one of - worked to end slavery?  Happy Birthday Elvis?  Terri Schavio was healthy.  She had brain damage but was healthy.  Not like she was terminally ill?  

 ::)

If you don't find her stupid, then the only reason is that you are just as stupid as she is.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 19, 2011, 05:33:34 AM
LMFAO!!!!    Are you fucking kidding?   Damn you are stupid. 

Ron Paul going around blaming ATM Machines for job losses?   

Newt going around accusing doctors of lopping off feet for 50K and stealing tonsils? 

Bachmann going around saying the Free Market has never worked? 

Santorum going around 57 states, my muslim faith, etc





Fucking please - this post cemented you are a perennial joke and a farce.     

I would point out how stupid you are since not a damn thing you posted is evidence to anything except your toolbox status.

I already post Bachmonsters stupidity.

If all you got is so called gaffes from Obama then, Newt = serving the country made me cheat on my wives.  Santorum = abortion is the reason for the failing Social security system.  Though I like Ron, his foreign aid and policy leaves him open to putting his foot in his mouth at times.

Anything else in your little CryBaby bag that needs to be stuffed back in your face?
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2011, 05:39:01 AM
I would point out how stupid you are since not a damn thing you posted is evidence to anything except your toolbox status.

I already post Bachmonsters stupidity.

If all you got is so called gaffes from Obama then, Newt = serving the country made me cheat on my wives.  Santorum = abortion is the reason for the failing Social security system.  Though I like Ron, his foreign aid and policy leaves him open to putting his foot in his mouth at times.

Anything else in your little CryBaby bag that needs to be stuffed back in your face?


blaming ATM Machines is not a gaffe - its what he really believes and shows him to be very much the economic illiterate and incompetent mobst of us realize he is. 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 19, 2011, 05:49:08 AM
Neither was what posted from the other candidates a gaffe.  It was their strong belief and conviction of the truth.

Your point is what now?  Oh right... you don't have one.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: George Whorewell on December 19, 2011, 05:52:39 AM
You quoted me, so I know that you can't say you didn't read my post, and then follow up with the above rant that is prefaced with these two sentences?

Not a single part of my reply had anything to do with intelligence and bearing upon the POTUS office.  My statement is a direct reflection of not a single candidate the GOP is offering is smarter than Obama.  Which seems to go against the grain with the "Obama is so stupid" crying.  It wouldn't matter if Obama was a janitor for my statement to relevant.  Yours however, not even sure WTF you are trying to drag out there.

I did read your post. It still makes no sense. You think that Obama is smarter than the GOP candidates-- based on what exactly?

And if you dont think intelligence is relevant, then why mention it in the context of this thread?
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2011, 05:55:24 AM
Yeah - it takes a really intelligent person to blame ATM machines for job losses.   Pure sign of brilliance right there.   
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 19, 2011, 06:09:03 AM
I did read your post. It still makes no sense. You think that Obama is smarter than the GOP candidates-- based on what exactly?

And if you dont think intelligence is relevant, then why mention it in the context of this thread?

I was unaware of that list you posted showing the IQ measurements of those candidates.

I never said that intelligence was necessary for POTUS, Bush is evident it is not.  What said was that Obama was smarter than the GOP field.  Job position not a factor.  Wouldn't matter if they were competing for POTUS or dog catcher. 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2011, 06:11:27 AM
I was unaware of that list you posted showing the IQ measurements of those candidates.

I never said that intelligence was necessary for POTUS, Bush is evident it is not.  What said was that Obama was smarter than the GOP field.  Job position not a factor.  Wouldn't matter if they were competing for POTUS or dog catcher. 

BASED ON FUCKING WHAT! ! ! !

We have been asking you obama cock suckers the same damn question for 3 years and still not an answer. 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Option D on December 19, 2011, 06:34:36 AM
BASED ON FUCKING WHAT! ! ! !

We have been asking you obama cock suckers the same damn question for 3 years and still not an answer. 

shut up bitch
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2011, 06:37:22 AM
shut up bitch

 ::)  ::)

Again where is the evidence that Obama is any smarter than the average guy in the phone book?   
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Option D on December 19, 2011, 07:06:09 AM
::)  ::)

Again where is the evidence that Obama is any smarter than the average guy in the phone book?   

he = president... avg guy in phone book = not
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2011, 07:08:06 AM
he = president... avg guy in phone book = not

LOL - funny how you clowns claimed GWB was dumber than a box of rocks and never made that argument. 


ATM machines anyone? 
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Option D on December 19, 2011, 07:12:07 AM
LOL - funny how you clowns claimed GWB was dumber than a box of rocks and never made that argument. 


ATM machines anyone? 

I dont think GWB is dumb.. He became president of the United States of America.
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2011, 07:13:34 AM
I dont think GWB is dumb.. He became president of the United States of America.

So?   This piece of garbage became a congressman - do you think he is smart? 

Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Option D on December 19, 2011, 07:19:25 AM
So?   This piece of garbage became a congressman - do you think he is smart? 



W/O watching your video...

yes.. he got hella people to vote for him to represent them.. so yes
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2011, 07:20:46 AM
W/O watching your video...

yes.. he got hella people to vote for him to represent them.. so yes

LOL.   
Title: Re: Option D/240/Lurker/Blacken/Straw - its time to eat S$%^
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 23, 2011, 06:26:28 AM
Bump for Hugo