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Title: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: SmoofCat on January 16, 2012, 04:01:51 AM
Since I was burned by K on my 2nd order, I am out of legit GH, and I have been off of real GH for 3 days now. While I do have some money put away, and I do have a small salary, I just don't want to go drop another grand on growth right now. I am a young fucking guy fully supporting myself and I need that money. Getting burned by this kitropin disaster in a bigger way than most of you (meaning i got burned for a larger order than most of you; i have more fake kits in my fridge than most of you), I am now almost fully relying on K re-shipping me REAL gh, like my first package contained. I believe that he will. But until that, I have a contest to prep for, and a lot of you might think I am insane, but I am going to try to do this contest without GH and only on high dose AS.

Rate my stack that commences TODAY:

1 gram of tren E
1 gram of mast E
around 1 gram of test E to start, and I will lower it dramatically when contest comes around.

I am cycling OFF anadrol right now as well as deca and sustanon. I am basically replacing these compounds with the new ones.

Can I still mutate? I was only on REAL growth hormone for 8 weeks, and yes, I saw REAL results. But I am not just going to kiss my dreams of competing goodbye just because some chinese swine merchant stole my money and sent me nitrogen filled vials of ghrp or meltonan or sugar or whatever the fuck this shit is.

What else can I do before my contest, knowing that I have NO GH!!? Clenbuterol to aid in fat loss instead? Arimidex? I am at a loss here.

Help me out. I am under 3 months out lol.

stats:

5'11.5''
230 lb
5.5-6% bf
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: whitewidow on January 16, 2012, 04:15:40 AM
I add this bunk scam close to 75,000$ all I can say is order from your usual guy and stick to your routine. workout extra hard and keep up the tren dose till you get your new HGH. make sure you take your diet to a new level and workout extra hard think about that money you got burned and you will gert mad and push out some extra sets.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: SmoofCat on January 16, 2012, 04:21:04 AM
I add this bunk scam close to 75,000$ all I can say is order from your usual guy and stick to your routine. workout extra hard and keep up the tren dose till you get your new HGH. make sure you take your diet to a new level and workout extra hard think about that money you got burned and you will gert mad and push out some extra sets.

oh it is way, way above 75,000 WW... and that is from our board alone, specifically the steroid section.

and in the bigger picture, it is WAY more than 75,000. Millions scammed I would say.

But from our board alone, even that # you posted is way too low.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: nosleep on January 16, 2012, 08:53:26 AM
YES ME AND MAX AND BUNS OF STEELE, ETC. GOT FUCKED UP THE BUTTHOLE BUT YOU, YOU GOT ROYALLY SCREWED, ANALLY RAPED AND THEN JIZZED ON MANG.

YOU WENT FROM LEGIT TO BUNK AND THEN ARE COMPETING? WE NEVER HAD ANY OF THIS, SO WE ARE NO REAL LOSS BESIDES THE HUGE FINANCIAL OUTPUT. WE DON'T KNOW BETTER, YOU DO.

HOWEVER, MY RECOMMENDATIONS.

IF 3 GRAMS OF GEAR IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING THEN...

1 GRAM TREN ACE NOT LONG EASTER
1 GRAM EQUIPOSE
500MG PRIMO
500MG TESTOSTERONA

AS TIME GOES ON REDUCE TESTOSTERONE AND ADD MASTERONA, AT THE FINAL 4-6 WEEKS TAKE OUT ALL TESTOSTERONE AND USE 50-100MG/ED OF ANADROLA!
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: jon cole on January 16, 2012, 09:06:23 AM
Since I was burned by K on my 2nd order, I am out of legit GH, and I have been off of real GH for 3 days now. While I do have some money put away, and I do have a small salary, I just don't want to go drop another grand on growth right now. I am a young fucking guy fully supporting myself and I need that money. Getting burned by this kitropin disaster in a bigger way than most of you (meaning i got burned for a larger order than most of you; i have more fake kits in my fridge than most of you), I am now almost fully relying on K re-shipping me REAL gh, like my first package contained. I believe that he will. But until that, I have a contest to prep for, and a lot of you might think I am insane, but I am going to try to do this contest without GH and only on high dose AS.

Rate my stack that commences TODAY:

1 gram of tren E
1 gram of mast E
around 1 gram of test E to start, and I will lower it dramatically when contest comes around.

I am cycling OFF anadrol right now as well as deca and sustanon. I am basically replacing these compounds with the new ones.

Can I still mutate? I was only on REAL growth hormone for 8 weeks, and yes, I saw REAL results. But I am not just going to kiss my dreams of competing goodbye just because some chinese swine merchant stole my money and sent me nitrogen filled vials of ghrp or meltonan or sugar or whatever the fuck this shit is.

What else can I do before my contest, knowing that I have NO GH!!? Clenbuterol to aid in fat loss instead? Arimidex? I am at a loss here.

Help me out. I am under 3 months out lol.

stats:

5'11.5''
230 lb
5.5-6% bf


dude you're running 3 gr of aas e.w...
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: futurefreak on January 16, 2012, 09:18:04 AM
Smoof,

Don't be a retard. If this is NOT USA's , Natl's, Jr shows etc.....you do NOT need Growth!

I have won 6 overalls without this stuff. Tren is your friend.

Now when competing in a pro qualifier......YES you will need legit GH, no question there.

You will do just fine with good aas and good diet dude....

FF
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: SmoofCat on January 16, 2012, 09:59:06 AM
Smoof,

Don't be a retard. If this is NOT USA's , Natl's, Jr shows etc.....you do NOT need Growth!

I have won 6 overalls without this stuff. Tren is your friend.

Now when competing in a pro qualifier......YES you will need legit GH, no question there.

You will do just fine with good aas and good diet dude....

FF

thanks. this is what i needed to hear. i have sort of been brainwashed into thinking i need gh to compete, even at the lowest level, despite already being very, very big.

i have won internationally in a very small local event, and years ago when i competed naturally in usa (i was more natural then 95% of the competition.. halodrol only at that time). this is my first stint with NPC, and i am a little scared naturally. bodybuilding is really my passion, but i am a bit intimidated by jumping into NPC competitions despite the fact that i have heard from the winner of last year's open, and 2 different pros in the nyc area that are in my circle that i have the frame and conditioning to place high, and if i condition enough even win my weight class. the real problem for me is deciding whether to compete in heavy weight or go even lower... i am right now 230...

however i have become such a get big addict, and i read the gh bible and he seems to really be adamant about no gh: no bodybuilder.

i guess i will just not worry about this until later.

i needed this.

thank you ff
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: futurefreak on January 16, 2012, 10:10:06 AM
thanks. this is what i needed to hear. i have sort of been brainwashed into thinking i need gh to compete, even at the lowest level, despite already being very, very big.

i have won internationally in a very small local event, and years ago when i competed naturally in usa (i was more natural then 95% of the competition.. halodrol only at that time). this is my first stint with NPC, and i am a little scared naturally. bodybuilding is really my passion, but i am a bit intimidated by jumping into NPC competitions despite the fact that i have heard from the winner of last year's open, and 2 different pros in the nyc area that are in my circle that i have the frame and conditioning to place high, and if i condition enough even win my weight class. the real problem for me is deciding whether to compete in heavy weight or go even lower... i am right now 230...

however i have become such a get big addict, and i read the gh bible and he seems to really be adamant about no gh: no bodybuilder.

i guess i will just not worry about this until later.

i needed this.

thank you ff

You will be just fine! Just come in PEELED --- whether that is a dry 212, 205 ....what have you --- just make sure to put in the work. Tren / eca  or clen whatever your prefer will get you in shape!

If you have "enough" shape and symmetry ,  conditioning will trump size at State show.

Stay positive and focused! I plan on ONLY doing Jr National or Nationals....I have proven myself at state level....time to take a shit of get off the pot.

Taking 1.5 year off-season.....

FF
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: aesthetics on January 16, 2012, 01:01:43 PM
diuretics will be your friend.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: Overload on January 16, 2012, 01:09:01 PM
If you are a legit 5-6% BF then all you need to do is watch what you eat and maybe run some T3 and then a diuretic leading up to the show.

You don't even need to do cardio if you are really that lean.

1g of Tren and Mast is plenty to get you to your goals.


8)
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: SamsonD on January 16, 2012, 01:12:48 PM


HOWEVER, MY RECOMMENDATIONS.

IF 3 GRAMS OF GEAR IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING THEN...

1 GRAM TREN ACE NOT LONG EASTER
1 GRAM EQUIPOSE
500MG PRIMO
500MG TESTOSTERONA

AS TIME GOES ON REDUCE TESTOSTERONE AND ADD MASTERONA, AT THE FINAL 4-6 WEEKS TAKE OUT ALL TESTOSTERONE AND USE 50-100MG/ED OF ANADROLA!

I like this, but I'm not sold on Primo.  I would maybe swap the primo out for NPP say 600mg, and test prop 300-400mg.  If your running prop you wouldn't have to drop it out at 4-6 weeks either, you could run that almost to the show, maybe drop it a week out.  Or use masteron right off instead of NPP.  You have the size and we are talking about a show in what 6-8 weeks? 10 at most?  I think you could bang test p/mast/tren a hardcore, diet and cardio like a mother fucker and just come in peeled.  Fuck the weight, just get diced.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: SmoofCat on January 16, 2012, 05:50:23 PM
If you are a legit 5-6% BF then all you need to do is watch what you eat and maybe run some T3 and then a diuretic leading up to the show.

You don't even need to do cardio if you are really that lean.

1g of Tren and Mast is plenty to get you to your goals.


8)

well i am. gh15 can attest to how lean i am and how big i am. he is one of three people on these boards who have seen my pictures... frankly i want to remain anonymous until i win something. then i will come back and brag a bit.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: Rearden Metal on January 16, 2012, 06:22:11 PM
well i am. gh15 can attest to how lean i am and how big i am. he is one of three people on these boards who have seen my pictures... frankly i want to remain anonymous until i win something. then i will come back and brag a bit.

PM me your pic, I'll give u straight advice.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: SmoofCat on January 16, 2012, 06:45:09 PM
PM me your pic, I'll give u straight advice.

will do tomorrow. i'm on an iPad at my girlfriends house and the process would take me forever. when i get home tomorrow i will form my computer.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: queefer on January 16, 2012, 06:56:07 PM
1g of tren is just insane.  I'm in shape at 290 and I would never, ever go that high.  You are going to feel like shit.  I agree with ff, you definetely don't need gh for a local show because it's all about being diced up, even though I really believe you will have your legit kigs by feb 10th.  When is the show?
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: queefer on January 16, 2012, 06:58:44 PM
And one more thing, you will continue to make gains off the gh for a few weeks, so don't sweat the small stuff.  I'm in the same boat as you, we cant let a minor setback derail our dreams.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: L.L on January 16, 2012, 07:04:19 PM
Smoof,

Don't be a retard. If this is NOT USA's , Natl's, Jr shows etc.....you do NOT need Growth!

I have won 6 overalls without this stuff. Tren is your friend.

Now when competing in a pro qualifier......YES you will need legit GH, no question there.

You will do just fine with good aas and good diet dude....

FF




i was thinking the same thing...you can get in top shape without gh....of course once you get to certain level of competition you HAVE  to have it....You'll be fine...stay on your diet, do your cardio and go get that trophy.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: Stavios on January 16, 2012, 07:36:26 PM
PM me your pic, I'll give u straight advice.

this

listen to RM, he will show you the way like he did for other fellas on here
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: Stavios on January 16, 2012, 07:37:13 PM
1g of tren is just insane.  I'm in shape at 290 and I would never, ever go that high.  You are going to feel like shit.  I agree with ff, you definetely don't need gh for a local show because it's all about being diced up, even though I really believe you will have your legit kigs by feb 10th.  When is the show?

yeah but you are a genetic freak
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: muscle19 on January 16, 2012, 08:09:38 PM
he helped me out alot! I did my first show with no gh and i was peeled!!!! everyone there said they havent seen someone that ripped but this next contest with be with gh and we will see but I think you can and will do just fine without it
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: SmoofCat on January 16, 2012, 08:31:18 PM
1. i am cool on a gram of tren a week. it makes me feel pretty good actually, in a very weird way. i hate that i can't sleep without valium on it, but i like that i am always wired. i am considering lowering the tren and mast to 600 mg each. the problem si i have LONG ESTHER for everything, so a gram of tren E IS NOT A GRAM OF TREN if you know what I'm saying.

2. my show is march 31 i believe, metropolitan npc nyc

3. i will take rear den's advice. i have taken it before on this site and i will take it again.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: queefer on January 16, 2012, 08:44:01 PM
yeah but you are a genetic freak
HaHa thats funny.  I've got horrible genetics, but I have been busting my ass for  20years straight now.But I will take that as a compliment.  Bboy says I look 220 at best.  You should be back on in about what, 3 weeks now.  I'll bet your ready.  I don't think I could take a break as long as you have.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: queefer on January 16, 2012, 08:46:58 PM
1. i am cool on a gram of tren a week. it makes me feel pretty good actually, in a very weird way. i hate that i can't sleep without valium on it, but i like that i am always wired. i am considering lowering the tren and mast to 600 mg each. the problem si i have LONG ESTHER for everything, so a gram of tren E IS NOT A GRAM OF TREN if you know what I'm saying.

2. my show is march 31 i believe, metropolitan npc nyc

3. i will take rear den's advice. i have taken it before on this site and i will take it again.
If you get your kits by the 5th you will be able to run them for 5 weeks and thats the time you want them the most.  Iran mine last year for the last 6 weeks befor my contest and it made a huge difference.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: Stavios on January 16, 2012, 08:57:32 PM
HaHa thats funny.  I've got horrible genetics, but I have been busting my ass for  20years straight now.But I will take that as a compliment.  Bboy says I look 220 at best.  You should be back on in about what, 3 weeks now.  I'll bet your ready.  I don't think I could take a break as long as you have.

Bboy is 5'6, while you on the other hand, are a monster of a man sir  8)
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: futurefreak on January 16, 2012, 09:30:22 PM
LOL @ a gram of tren acetate /week!!!

I could not imagine that -- I'd want to bust outta my skin and do something ridiculous and impulsive hahah on top of being a carb depleted zombie pre-contest -- WOW.

Hey I know a friend that could tolerate it -- more power to ya....I bet it will be incinerating BF% from the inside out.

75mg ED --->then maybe 100mg ED last 3 weeks is somewhat normal....

Winny 100 ED ---> ECA......Pshhh you'll be inside out ripped if you put effort into dieting.

Go get it man!

FF
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: queefer on January 16, 2012, 10:15:57 PM
Bboy is 5'6, while you on the other hand, are a monster of a man sir  8)
I had no idea I would actually get compliments on getbig ;D
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 16, 2012, 10:33:42 PM
If you get your kits by the 5th you will be able to run them for 5 weeks and thats the time you want them the most.  Iran mine last year for the last 6 weeks befor my contest and it made a huge difference.

Do you run the GH all the way to the day of the contest?
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: SmoofCat on January 17, 2012, 05:12:12 AM
LOL @ a gram of tren acetate /week!!!

I could not imagine that -- I'd want to bust outta my skin and do something ridiculous and impulsive hahah on top of being a carb depleted zombie pre-contest -- WOW.

Hey I know a friend that could tolerate it -- more power to ya....I bet it will be incinerating BF% from the inside out.

75mg ED --->then maybe 100mg ED last 3 weeks is somewhat normal....

Winny 100 ED ---> ECA......Pshhh you'll be inside out ripped if you put effort into dieting.

Go get it man!

FF

tren doesn't bother me like it bothers most folks... even @ 150 mg ED. it makes me feel really, really focused, and since i am naturally a very quiet person, i never take any anger out on anyone.

people have asked me if something is wrong before (often actually) while i am on high dose tren, and a teacher even told me it looked like i needed a nap, but i have never had an outburst even on a gram a week... never yelled at anyone, etc'.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: SmoofCat on January 17, 2012, 05:12:58 AM
If you get your kits by the 5th you will be able to run them for 5 weeks and thats the time you want them the most.  Iran mine last year for the last 6 weeks befor my contest and it made a huge difference.

how tall are you queefer? you are 300 lbs in that picture of the one arm triceps push down? you must be a giant.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: whitewidow on January 17, 2012, 06:05:02 AM
smotthcat I was talking about 75,000 to 100,000$ just from  the steroid forum on getbig. geez peoplke really blew there funds on these bunk kigs I will say get your rep;acements everbody and stay away from this outfit! If they can make pharma GH better than humatrope once and then try to sell bunk the second batch they did it intentionally or didnt want to wait for certain materials because they wanted money. everybody get your replce,ents and go another way to get your HGH these people do not deserve a second chance.  I have seen this scenario before when anapharm got busted and people had HGH orders and gear as well all never to be seen due to the police busting anapharm and the  had the balls to get their passwrod for their email and scam more people that one was 94,000$ alot of people needed that gear and HGH for competitions but were fucked.

 you have two choices wait and do the next show by that time you will have more muscle muturity and you will have more of that cartoon look from the HGH. thats one option. the second option is to just use AAS and workout like a animal and have a nutritionist show you how to safely use diuretics. dont you have any money you can buy a few kits from a diffrent source? or is it the chinese new year fucking it all up? maybe somebody domestic will help you out. if not you just have to work extra hard and come in super rippped and vascular. you have some top shelf gear that will work great for you it's just a matter of knowing when to incorporate them. Your going to want to use a small amount of test, high amount of primo and masteron, and also your tren but switch to tren acetate and maybe lower the dose a little bit. you are going to have to do some serious cardio. alwatch your diet. they didn't use HGH in the 70's and they had some great bodybuilders that didn't use HGH just AAS and alot of hard work! if you really want HGH try DL he had real kigs. not sure he ever had the fake ones. and he has them domestic. bck in the day when there were closer members this wouldnt be a problem somebody would have a kit they would send you for their cost. it was a tight community and everybody had each others back. somebody should be able to help you out. you will be ok.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: Overload on January 17, 2012, 06:10:57 AM
well i am. gh15 can attest to how lean i am and how big i am. he is one of three people on these boards who have seen my pictures... frankly i want to remain anonymous until i win something. then i will come back and brag a bit.

I believe you.

I was just saying that you shouldn't worry too much about it if you are already in the 6% range this far out.


8)
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: SmoofCat on January 17, 2012, 06:48:14 AM
smotthcat I was talking about 75,000 to 100,000$ just from  the steroid forum on getbig. geez peoplke really blew there funds on these bunk kigs I will say get your rep;acements everbody and stay away from this outfit! If they can make pharma GH better than humatrope once and then try to sell bunk the second batch they did it intentionally or didnt want to wait for certain materials because they wanted money. everybody get your replce,ents and go another way to get your HGH these people do not deserve a second chance.  I have seen this scenario before when anapharm got busted and people had HGH orders and gear as well all never to be seen due to the police busting anapharm and the  had the balls to get their passwrod for their email and scam more people that one was 94,000$ alot of people needed that gear and HGH for competitions but were fucked.

 you have two choices wait and do the next show by that time you will have more muscle muturity and you will have more of that cartoon look from the HGH. thats one option. the second option is to just use AAS and workout like a animal and have a nutritionist show you how to safely use diuretics. dont you have any money you can buy a few kits from a diffrent source? or is it the chinese new year fucking it all up? maybe somebody domestic will help you out. if not you just have to work extra hard and come in super rippped and vascular. you have some top shelf gear that will work great for you it's just a matter of knowing when to incorporate them. Your going to want to use a small amount of test, high amount of primo and masteron, and also your tren but switch to tren acetate and maybe lower the dose a little bit. you are going to have to do some serious cardio. alwatch your diet. they didn't use HGH in the 70's and they had some great bodybuilders that didn't use HGH just AAS and alot of hard work! if you really want HGH try DL he had real kigs. not sure he ever had the fake ones. and he has them domestic. bck in the day when there were closer members this wouldnt be a problem somebody would have a kit they would send you for their cost. it was a tight community and everybody had each others back. somebody should be able to help you out. you will be ok.

i do have money but i am a phd student and i work part time at the university. my salary is not fucking good. i fortunately have some money saved, but i am already spending considerable amounts on aas from the best source you can get it basically (you would probably disagree, but i love him).

i just don't want to plop down another grand for novos right now, and yeah i do have the option to buy serostim off a clinic patient also, but it would run me 400 bucks for the kit, and that is only 126 iu. i know a lot of you would say "450 for a kit of serostim!! do it now!!" but it is still 450 dollars. at this point of my life (early 20s) i am not in a position to be spending thousands every month on gh.

having said all of that, i will probably make a move and either order novos from a reshipper or buy a serostim off a clinic patient i know today lol. because i am a
AMERICANO (sort of) HORMONA ADDICT.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: queefer on January 17, 2012, 07:49:13 AM
Do you run the GH all the way to the day of the contest?
My show was on Saturday and I ran 10iu up til wednesday morning.  This year I plan to stop a week out, just to make sure.  I actually think the best way to do it would be to cut your dose in half for a week, and then stop 7 full days out.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: queefer on January 17, 2012, 07:50:35 AM
how tall are you queefer? you are 300 lbs in that picture of the one arm triceps push down? you must be a giant.
I'm 6'2 but carry most of my weight in my legs, so in person I'm don't look that big.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 17, 2012, 07:50:52 AM
Smoof, serious question.  Are you black or white?  Just curious if you are behind the 8 ball genetic wise for bodybuilding.  Look at Jay and Dorian.  Those guys are and would be shit without GH and Slin.  Guys like Coleman wasn't dependant so much on it, but it was what brought him from a top 10 Olympian to the champion.

Just go back and google 1980's NPC photos.  Lots of great physiques built on Test, Deca, Equi, Winnie and Clen.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: SmoofCat on January 17, 2012, 09:00:32 AM
Smoof, serious question.  Are you black or white?  Just curious if you are behind the 8 ball genetic wise for bodybuilding.  Look at Jay and Dorian.  Those guys are and would be shit without GH and Slin.  Guys like Coleman wasn't dependant so much on it, but it was what brought him from a top 10 Olympian to the champion.

Just go back and google 1980's NPC photos.  Lots of great physiques built on Test, Deca, Equi, Winnie and Clen.

i'm white but i am eastern european...

and i agree. coleman looked fantastic before he ever touched gh. although the point is somewhat moot because i consider dorian one of the top 3 of all time (yes yes he was built of slin and gh, specifically slin lol).
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 17, 2012, 11:11:34 AM
i'm white but i am eastern european...

and i agree. coleman looked fantastic before he ever touched gh. although the point is somewhat moot because i consider dorian one of the top 3 of all time (yes yes he was built of slin and gh, specifically slin lol).

Are you dabling with slin?  Hope not.  But yeah, genetic response to gear is key.  GH will make you look good but like GH15 said, you need a base, good base is from anabolics.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: bigsport on January 17, 2012, 12:38:09 PM
bro you def DO NOT need the GH to do your show. yes there will be a lot of big dudes at the NYC metro, but as long as your other shit is accurately dosed and legit you should be fine.

the most important thing you need to worry about is your diet, water, sodium, cardio 10 days out. those are the only things you should concern yourself w/. if you fuck those things up you wont be able to dial in properly. dont sweat the G though, its beyond your control at this point anyway, so focus on the things you still have control over and make something positive happen.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: SmoofCat on January 17, 2012, 01:29:09 PM
bro you def DO NOT need the GH to do your show. yes there will be a lot of big dudes at the NYC metro, but as long as your other shit is accurately dosed and legit you should be fine.

the most important thing you need to worry about is your diet, water, sodium, cardio 10 days out. those are the only things you should concern yourself w/. if you fuck those things up you wont be able to dial in properly. dont sweat the G though, its beyond your control at this point anyway, so focus on the things you still have control over and make something positive happen.

thank you. that means a lot to me, because sometimes i feel like it is ALL drugs, and then i remember how fucking hard i worked to even get to this point without any gh at all.

and yeah it is nyc metro.. i never said that here, but you guessed right. there are going to be some huge guys i am going against.

the 2 things i need to really focus on at this point are:

1. choosing my weight class correctly.

2. dialing in my cardio and diet at the correct time.

at my last natural show (as stated prior, i was basically a natural- only doing halodrol, and i still beat all of the tren ace abusers) i won, but i went on stage at 184 and I was skin and bones. i mean i was fucking diced up. the pictures of me from that day are going to be with me for my entire lifetime, because even though i was small, i was in the best condition of my life. i used clen and a diuretic before the show to achieve this, and went keto for 3 weeks and did 40 minutes of cardio every day in that time.

i need to nail this condition again, but learn to do it with my new size. when i was "natural" i was walking around at my heaviest around 205, but i was still very conditioned. most people truly thought i was already on tren. but i did around 6 cycles of halodrol in those two years only, because i was not on the boards at that time and i had NO outside knowledge from my little circle of friends, and at the time we all loved halodrol and superdrol, although i had never done superdrol. in high school i did ONE cycle of british dragon tren enanthate, the shit that was $220 dollars a vial at the time. however, steroids were hard to come by in my living situation (extremely sharp parents... father with history of androgen use and knows all the sides..). pill however, i could hide. my dad actually caught me with the tren E, and that was the end of that cycle. he ripped my room apart after asking me to my face if i was injecting gear, and after i lied to him, he told me that he knew i was lying and that nobody gets that big that quickly without androgens.

it was the day after this natural show that i really started injecting hormones regularly. i actually bought some tren ace off of the guy who took 6th place lol.

the irony in that last sentence is exactly my point. It is NOT ALL DRUGS. I beat the dude on tren ace when i was on HALODROL.

 thank you big sport. i needed that reminder.

ps sorry for the life story lol. i just started my tren/masteron/test and i am feeling full of raw energy lol.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: j_mtl on January 17, 2012, 04:47:15 PM
1g of tren is just insane.  I'm in shape at 290 and I would never, ever go that high.  You are going to feel like shit.  I agree with ff, you definetely don't need gh for a local show because it's all about being diced up, even though I really believe you will have your legit kigs by feb 10th.  When is the show?
i agree   a gram of tren will fuk u up good....dont need that much for  sure
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: bigsport on January 17, 2012, 06:02:01 PM
1. i am cool on a gram of tren a week. it makes me feel pretty good actually, in a very weird way. i hate that i can't sleep without valium on it, but i like that i am always wired. i am considering lowering the tren and mast to 600 mg each. the problem si i have LONG ESTHER for everything, so a gram of tren E IS NOT A GRAM OF TREN if you know what I'm saying.

2. my show is march 31 i believe, metropolitan npc nyc

3. i will take rear den's advice. i have taken it before on this site and i will take it again.

bro im fairly educated, but i def do not have the ability to read people minds! you did mention it, it wasnt a guess lol...
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: nosleep on January 17, 2012, 06:07:34 PM
PROPS FOR BEING AN ADMITTED HORMONIZED NATURAL.

HALODROL, DIURETIC, EXACTLY WHAT GH15 SAYS THESE NATURALS ARE ON. PROPS FOR ADMITTING YOUR "NATURAL" CLAIMS, BUNCH OF LIARS WOULD FLEE FROM THAT AND DUST IT UNDER THE RUG.
Title: Re: My "attempting to still compete in march despite having only fake GH stack"
Post by: Dogma2010 on January 17, 2012, 07:00:30 PM
Listen to FutureFreak, I tried to come in too big this past season and ended up a superheavyweight at a contest where I could have possibly won the heavyweight class had I dropped down. A middleweight ended up winning the whole show by the way (just food for thought).

Just goes to show you at the regional level that condition will trump size. It was a valuable lesson though and I'll be following that same advice for contests this year.

Just get shredded.

tren and low test it out with some bronkaid into the contest honestly should do the trick. GH15 already put it on here. Last 8 weeks. Keep it strict before the contest with the diet and you should be good to go.