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Title: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Boost on January 25, 2012, 09:59:23 AM
Wow,

Explosive interview on Superhuman radio featuring golden age bodybuilding legend Pete Grymkowski telling the truth about his pre contest drug use back in the 70's.

Cliff Notes:
Pete wasn't a big eater and relied on increasing his dosages to boost his contest weight.

Stayed "on" for 17 1/2 years. Biggest regret is ever coming off at all.

cruised on 3 grams total combined androgen use per day during contest prep,

The last 3-5 weeks of contest prep he'd increase his dosages to 10 grams per day total (shots and orals)

27 cc's of injectables plus tons of orals per day.

Claimed he didn't have access to GH back then.

The synergy between GH, Insulin and other modern bodybuilding drugs mean that the top guys today don't have to use these astronomical amounts of androgens.

Drug use starts at

1:38:30

http://www.superhumanradio.com/components/com_podcast/media/mp3s/SHR_Show_894.mp3




Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Swlabr on January 25, 2012, 10:00:25 AM
he looks small


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: makaveli25 on January 25, 2012, 10:00:55 AM
Wow that's an insane amount of gear! Awesome!


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Shockwave on January 25, 2012, 10:01:45 AM
Dont know if I believe that, 10000mg/day and he's still alive?
Sounds to me like dude is cruising for some sort of attention, I mean I know they didnt take the small amounts they want us to believe but that is fucking rediculous by anyones standards.
Guess its possible, their are always the hardest abusers out there, no different than narcotics users.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Boost on January 25, 2012, 10:04:47 AM
Dont know if I believe that, 10000mg/day and he's still alive?
Sounds to me like dude is cruising for some sort of attention, I mean I know they didnt take the small amounts they want us to believe but that is fucking rediculous by anyones standards.
Guess its possible, their are always the hardest abusers out there, no different than narcotics users.
He sold Golds gym Venice and now lives comfortably with houses all over the world. Has no website, plugged nothing on the show. Doesn't keep up with the bodybuilding scene at all.

I don't think he's looking for attention


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 25, 2012, 10:11:18 AM
he looks small

Well, for 70,000mg test a week, yes.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 25, 2012, 10:17:06 AM
He sold Golds gym Venice and now lives comfortably with houses all over the world. Has no website, plugged nothing on the show. Doesn't keep up with the bodybuilding scene at all.

I don't think he's looking for attention

What AAS did he use? (too lazy to listen) :D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: bber on January 25, 2012, 10:47:06 AM
valentino claims to have never injected synthol, and that it was all hormones.. now, i'm not saying I believe that but if it's true, wouldn't this guy look like an oil bag too from taking 27cc's a day..

i also read somewhere that kovacs took a 20cc shot in the ass before lol


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 25, 2012, 10:54:22 AM
What AAS did he use? (too lazy to listen) :D

I didnt listen but heard from many that he took handfuls of Anavar tabs, injects were Test,Deca,EQ, standard stuff just in high amounts


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 25, 2012, 11:01:09 AM
I didnt listen but heard from many that he took handfuls of Anavar tabs, injects were Test,Deca,EQ, standard stuff just in high amounts

Sounds right for back then. Seems like with the ml/mg concentrations then it would've been hard to get fucking 70 grams a week??


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 25, 2012, 11:02:52 AM
valentino claims to have never injected synthol, and that it was all hormones.. now, i'm not saying I believe that but if it's true, wouldn't this guy look like an oil bag too from taking 27cc's a day..

i also read somewhere that kovacs took a 20cc shot in the ass before lol
LOL ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 25, 2012, 11:04:22 AM
There you have it.  Gymkowski is GH15. 


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 25, 2012, 11:04:55 AM
pretty much what he told me 4 years ago. full bottles of cypinate every day.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: funk51 on January 25, 2012, 11:08:40 AM
 ;D from small acorns grow mighty oaks.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on January 25, 2012, 11:10:23 AM
27 cc's day, huh ??? 9 FUCKIN' 3 CC SYRINGES FILLED TO THE FUCKIN' BRIM EVERYDAY, HUH ???? Hahahahaha ! Fuuuucccckkkkkk ! Wow ! Am I missin' somethin' here ??????


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 25, 2012, 11:12:44 AM
27 cc's day, huh ??? 9 FUCKIN' 3 CC SYRINGES FILLED TO THE FUCKIN' BRIM EVERYDAY, HUH ???? Hahahahaha ! Fuuuucccckkkkkk ! Wow ! Am I missin' somethin' here ??????
Hard to believe!!

I did 3 ccs(a full syringe) and couldn`t lay on a bench to do crunches the pain was so bad.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: THEBOSS on January 25, 2012, 11:14:57 AM
I dunno- Dorian was much bigger and swears that he bulked on just 50 mg Dbol a day and 750 test/ 500 deca per week. I read it on the internet so I know it's true. Also suspicious is how he leaves out any  mention of cell-tech use.
    ;D No way he got big without CELLTECH .


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: funk51 on January 25, 2012, 11:15:03 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on January 25, 2012, 11:19:31 AM
Hard to believe!!

I did 3 ccs(a full syringe) and couldn`t lay on a bench to do crunches the pain was so bad.


It is hard to believe. 9 of them, Wes, for christ sake ! That's insane !!! Buuuuuuuuut .... Pete G. was WIDELY known to be an insane kind of guy. What most people here might not know is Pete G. was known for his recreational use as well. So add that to his 10,000 mg's of juice !! That's why my mind is blown right now. This fucker is still alive ! Hahahahaha !!! Wow !!


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: tbombz on January 25, 2012, 11:22:26 AM
well he said he would train from midnight till 7 am every night, doing 100 sets per body part with little rest between sets.. and would eat only one meal per day. makes sense he would have to use that much juice to look halfway decent.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on January 25, 2012, 11:23:26 AM
It's most likely exaggeration, but the body will take a fuck load of abuse.Especially if you are just gearing.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 25, 2012, 11:25:23 AM

It is hard to believe. 9 of them, Wes, for christ sake ! That's insane !!! Buuuuuuuuut .... Pete G. was WIDELY known to be an insane kind of guy. What most people here might not know is Pete G. was known for his recreational use as well. So add that to his 10,000 mg's of juice !! That's why my mind is blown right now. This fucker is still alive ! Hahahahaha !!! Wow !!
Another thing is,who the fuck would want to do that many shots per week ?

Crazy ass sport/hobby or whatever you wanna` call it,it`s nutz!!


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 25, 2012, 11:33:25 AM
Another thing is,who the fuck would want to do that many shots per week ?

Crazy ass sport/hobby or whatever you wanna` call it,it`s nutz!!

You have to be nuts to get anywhere in this cult, i know competitors who compete at 65kg and 70kg weight classes and they take at least 3 grams per week, 200mg-300mg Anadrol per day is normal for them, 1500mg Deca per week is their base then add in all the other stuff plus the GH, they look great but just short ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 25, 2012, 11:36:29 AM
Wow,

Explosive interview on Superhuman radio featuring golden age bodybuilding legend Pete Grymkowski telling the truth about his pre contest drug use back in the 70's.

Cliff Notes:
Pete wasn't a big eater and relied on increasing his dosages to boost his contest weight.

Stayed "on" for 17 1/2 years. Biggest regret is ever coming off at all.

cruised on 3 grams total combined androgen use per day during contest prep,

The last 3-5 weeks of contest prep he'd increase his dosages to 10 grams per day total (shots and orals)

27 cc's of injectables plus tons of orals per day.

Claimed he didn't have access to GH back then.

The synergy between GH, Insulin and other modern bodybuilding drugs mean that the top guys today don't have to use these astronomical amounts of androgens.

Drug use starts at

1:38:30

http://www.superhumanradio.com/components/com_podcast/media/mp3s/SHR_Show_894.mp3




  He should be a lot bigger for this amount of sauce. But seriously, taking several grams of sauce a day, every day, is not possible for more than a few weeks. I don't care who you are, your liver would collapse after a few weeks at the most on these amounts. He is clearly exaggerating on the doses to boost ratings.

  The reason why the guys from the 1970s were smaller is lack of insulin and overtraining. These guys would do 2 training sessions a day for 3 hours each with tons of sets. This is why most of them competed at around 220 lbs despite all the drugs, since they were constantly destroying their muscles through excessive exercise.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 25, 2012, 11:37:04 AM
You have to be nuts to get anywhere in this cult, i know competitors who compete at 65kg and 70kg weight classes and they take at least 3 grams per week, 200mg-300mg Anadrol per day is normal for them, 1500mg Deca per week is their base then add in all the other stuff plus the GH, they look great but just short ;D
Crazy stuff bro!  :)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 25, 2012, 11:39:10 AM
Funny thing is in that before picture above, presumably natural, he shows no potential at all really.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 25, 2012, 11:41:37 AM
Funny thing is in that before picture above, presumably natural, he shows no potential at all really.

Genetics in a vial


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 25, 2012, 11:52:18 AM
 He should be a lot bigger for this amount of sauce. But seriously, taking several grams of sauce a day, every day, is not possible for more than a few weeks. I don't care who you are, your liver would collapse after a few weeks at the most on these amounts. He is clearly exaggerating on the doses to boost ratings.

  The reason why the guys from the 1970s were smaller is lack of insulin and overtraining. These guys would do 2 training sessions a day for 3 hours each with tons of sets. This is why most of them competed at around 220 lbs despite all the drugs, since they were constantly destroying their muscles through excessive exercise.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

he and i talked about that. he said you need to build up your tolerance over time. that is why he said it is a mistake to go 'off'.  look at an oxycontin addict taking 1000mg per day - if they did that the first time, they would die.


actually, if you look at when most street drug addicts overdose, it is straight out of rehab. they cleanout, lose their built up organ tolerance to the drug; and their former 'usual' dose reverts to a toxic dose.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 25, 2012, 11:53:27 AM
the thing that is surprising to me is that he had no obvious injection sites anywhere.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 25, 2012, 11:55:37 AM
the thing that is surprising to me is that he had no obvious injection sites anywhere.

Relatively speaking not much bloat either! And no AIs then?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: apply85 on January 25, 2012, 12:06:13 PM
i heard bbers lie a lot, just sayin


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Figo on January 25, 2012, 12:18:46 PM
Does he outline the compounds and specific dosages in interview?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 25, 2012, 12:21:35 PM
Holy crap

How is that even possible?

And how could he afford it?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 25, 2012, 12:57:58 PM
he and i talked about that. he said you need to build up your tolerance over time. that is why he said it is a mistake to go 'off'.  look at an oxycontin addict taking 1000mg per day - if they did that the first time, they would die.


actually, if you look at when most street drug addicts overdose, it is straight out of rehab. they cleanout, lose their built up organ tolerance to the drug; and their former 'usual' dose reverts to a toxic dose.

  But an opiate addict experience less and less high as time goes by as the body adapts to the toxicity of the drugs which is why he increases the doses. But there is no evidence that this occurs with steroids. There is no evidence that 500 mg of testosterone ceases to be anabolic after a couple months. The reason why steroid users increase the dose is because they want more gains. It takes more test to go from 250 lbs to 300 lbs than from 200 lbs to 250 lbs, but this does not mean that the doses that will take you from 250 lbs to 300 lbs are no more toxic than the doses that takes you from 200 lbs to 250 lbs because your body "adapted" to them.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: jubaredondo on January 25, 2012, 01:06:38 PM
I dunno- Dorian was much bigger and swears that he bulked on just 50 mg Dbol a day and 750 test/ 500 deca per week. I read it on the internet so I know it's true. Also suspicious is how he leaves out any  mention of cell-tech use.

seems legit ::)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Dr Dutch on January 25, 2012, 01:08:40 PM
Dont know if I believe that, 10000mg/day and he's still alive?
Sounds to me like dude is cruising for some sort of attention, I mean I know they didnt take the small amounts they want us to believe but that is fucking rediculous by anyones standards.
Guess its possible, their are always the hardest abusers out there, no different than narcotics users.
Once all the receptors are filled, the excess doesn't matter much.... ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: tbombz on January 25, 2012, 01:09:49 PM
But seriously, taking several grams of sauce a day, every day, is not possible for more than a few weeks. I don't care who you are, your liver would collapse after a few weeks at the most on these amounts.



SUCKMYMUSCLE
another brilliant assertion from suckmymuscle.

what was your last one, that nobody could eat a super sized big mac meal everyday for 6 months without having a heart attack ?  ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: tbombz on January 25, 2012, 01:12:08 PM
  But an opiate addict experience less and less high as time goes by as the body adapts to the toxicity of the drugs which is why he increases the doses. But there is no evidence that this occurs with steroids. There is no evidence that 500 mg of testosterone ceases to be anabolic after a couple months. The reason why steroid users increase the dose is because they want more gains. It takes more test to go from 250 lbs to 300 lbs than from 200 lbs to 250 lbs, but this does not mean that the doses that will take you from 250 lbs to 300 lbs are no more toxic than the doses that takes you from 200 lbs to 250 lbs because your body "adapted" to them.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
lmao, another genius post... yup, drugs like oxycontin are no longer toxic if you abuse the hell out of them to the point where you stop getting high..  ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 25, 2012, 01:12:27 PM
another brilliant assertion from suckmymuscle.

what was your last one, that nobody could eat a super sized big mac meal everyday for 6 months without having a heart attack ?

"Getting fucked is like receiving a deep tissue massage, only it's inside your asshole."
  
  - Tbombz

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 25, 2012, 01:15:14 PM
lmao, another genius post... yup, drugs like oxycontin are no longer toxic if you abuse the hell out of them to the point where you stop getting high..  ;D

  They become a lot less toxic to your physiology than they otherwise would be without tolerance buildup since you can take doses that would otherwise kill you without dying. Duh! :P Dumby...

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: tbombz on January 25, 2012, 01:18:16 PM
true to a small extent, in that regard onlyt..   though i think thats mainly a mental thing... however  as organs become stressed their ability to deal with toxins decreases.. meaning toxicity goes up over time.. not down


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 25, 2012, 01:24:04 PM
Just because a person builds tolerance to a drug DOES NOT mean that the drugs become any less toxic to the various vital organs involved in its metabolism, primarily the liver.

For instance, try taking 10 grams of Acetaminophen every day over the course of a week or two.  You will find that it won't have the same effect it once did in resolving a headache, but you will soon develop liver failure and probably die.

Developing tolerance does not mean that you have developed physiological immunity to systemic toxicity.

THAT'S FALSE.

"1"


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 01:27:57 PM
Just because a person builds tolerance to a drug DOES NOT mean that the drugs become any less toxic to the various vital organs involved in its metabolism, primarily the liver.

For instance, try taking 10 grams of Acetaminophen every day over the course of a week or two.  You will find that it won't have the same effect it once did in resolving a headache, but you will soon develop liver failure and probably die.

Developing tolerance does not mean that you have developed physiological immunity to systemic toxicity.

THAT'S FALSE.

"1"
steve mihalik was as crazy as they come and said he ate and injected anything he could get his hands on,,some of his stories sound outlandish,,claimed he was on so much stuff and when he cleaned out and was in sauna to detox his skin oozed green from the pores due to toxins,,,,


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Boost on January 25, 2012, 01:31:19 PM
I build tolerance to caffeine crazy fast. need 1 gram or more per day to feel anything


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 25, 2012, 01:31:33 PM
steve mihalik was as crazy as they come and said he ate and injected anything he could get his hands on,,some of his stories sound outlandish,,claimed he was on so much stuff and when he cleaned out and was in sauna to detox his skin oozed green from the pores due to toxins,,,,

I wouldn't trust bodybuilders with matters regarding health.

That said, Steve was fucking crazy.

"1"


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: tbombz on January 25, 2012, 01:35:48 PM
I build tolerance to caffeine crazy fast. need 1 gram or more per day to feel anything
i take about 2 grams grams 45 minutes before training  ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Boost on January 25, 2012, 01:37:20 PM
i take about 2 grams grams 45 minutes before training  ;D

LMAO

It actually elevates my mood big time. total Chatterbox and smiling all the time.

Any dangers of large dosages?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 25, 2012, 01:38:37 PM
In before Coach comes on and says most of the guys back then were pretty clean ::)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: njflex on January 25, 2012, 01:41:15 PM
In before Coach comes on and says most of the guys back then were pretty clean ::)
coach is cool and politically correct to the matters at hand,,he knew his way around the scene and things as well...


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 25, 2012, 03:00:48 PM
LMAO

It actually elevates my mood big time. total Chatterbox and smiling all the time.

Any dangers of large dosages?

Death.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Stavios on January 25, 2012, 03:06:49 PM
I can't imagine shooting that much oil, and I abuse the shit out of roids myself


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: madg on January 25, 2012, 03:07:40 PM
sry i dont believe he take that much ,,maybe 10g per week yes,,but not per day lol


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 25, 2012, 03:09:25 PM
The one person here who would be able to shed some light on Petes actual dosages would be Max Rep as he knew him well and also trained with him.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: RustyTrenbolona on January 25, 2012, 03:12:26 PM
the guy abused the shit out of a few syringes a day to show us he was the biggest and toughest damn SOB around. Mad respect. This aint no game. He did this for us. He risked his LIFE yes LIFE for you, me , us, the whole damn planet. Remember that.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Stavios on January 25, 2012, 03:14:36 PM
The one person here who would be able to shed some light on Petes actual dosages would be Max Rep as he knew him well and also trained with him.

and Keith, may the big fella rest in peace


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 25, 2012, 03:24:57 PM
The one person here who would be able to shed some light on Petes actual dosages would be Max Rep as he knew him well and also trained with him.

he told me pretty much exactly this in 2007.  i said i didn't know if i should be glad or pissed that he hadn't told me that when i was still wanting to get huge.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 25, 2012, 03:57:42 PM
he told me pretty much exactly this in 2007.  i said i didn't know if i should be glad or pissed that he hadn't told me that when i was still wanting to get huge.
;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 25, 2012, 04:33:11 PM
and Keith, may the big fella rest in peace

Keith would have told us the guy was clean most of the time


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 25, 2012, 04:45:55 PM
Pete had some wide ass shoulders back in the day.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 25, 2012, 05:13:56 PM
Pete had some wide ass shoulders back in the day.

looking at his pics, you'd think his skeleton was three feet wide. but you see him now and you would think he would be as wide as Heath if he worked out. ???


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 25, 2012, 05:20:37 PM
looking at his pics, you'd think his skeleton was three feet wide. but you see him now and you would think he would be as wide as Heath if he worked out. ???
Yep aging will take its toll on you.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Mawse on January 25, 2012, 06:06:45 PM
He would have been a solid block of scar tissue from that many shots, so obviously he didn't do that.. but it's no less foolish than the people who think Mentzer and Arnie popped a couple of dbol a day and 1/2 a cc of primo a week.



Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: chess315 on January 25, 2012, 06:21:21 PM
they say you once you hit 50grams a week you think why did i wait so long :)

next cycle 30grams test a week :)
               20grams tren             if estrogen gets out of hand may add 100mg masteron eod
                             


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: tbombz on January 25, 2012, 06:48:50 PM
LMAO

It actually elevates my mood big time. total Chatterbox and smiling all the time.

Any dangers of large dosages?
the toxicity level for caffiene is pretty high. i think 2 grams would put most people into a state of extreme uncomfort and they might even call poison control, but they would be alright.. wouldnt kill them or anything. i just have an extreme tolerance to all kinds of drugs and have to abuse the shit out of them to feel anything.. whether its weed, ecsacy, caffiene, or steroids...


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on January 25, 2012, 06:57:29 PM
they say you once you hit 50grams a week you think why did i wait so long :)

next cycle 30grams test a week :)
               20grams tren             if estrogen gets out of hand may add 100mg masteron eod
                             


Yeah ... good luck with that. Estrogen will be the LEAST of your problems, my friend. Hahahahaha !!


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: flinstones1 on January 25, 2012, 07:18:40 PM
 He should be a lot bigger for this amount of sauce. But seriously, taking several grams of sauce a day, every day, is not possible for more than a few weeks. I don't care who you are, your liver would collapse after a few weeks at the most on these amounts. He is clearly exaggerating on the doses to boost ratings.

  The reason why the guys from the 1970s were smaller is lack of insulin and overtraining. These guys would do 2 training sessions a day for 3 hours each with tons of sets. This is why most of them competed at around 220 lbs despite all the drugs, since they were constantly destroying their muscles through excessive exercise.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

you really think it was the insulin? Or lack of it? I thought it was the GH that makes the guys so much larger? Lots of big guys who have not used insulin who are freaks compared to the days back then.

 But I bet those guys from the 70's were STRONG as fuck. You take loads of pharm grade steroids, and build your muscle solely on anabolics, back breaking weights, and food for years, you will be a strong, yoked ####. Not necessarily as large but dense as fuck just look at those pics from Mezner, even the old guys like Chuck Sipes, etcetc The muscle HGH and insulin builds is all show no go, it really is "fake" for a better word and builds a completely different type of muscle than what you get through weight training and taking anabolic steroids.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: flinstones1 on January 25, 2012, 07:27:00 PM
I dunno- Dorian was much bigger and swears that he bulked on just 50 mg Dbol a day and 750 test/ 500 deca per week. I read it on the internet so I know it's true. Also suspicious is how he leaves out any  mention of cell-tech use.

Maybe an older guy can clear this up for us......but thats a good point man. The more I learn the more I'm starting to realize steroids are icing on the cake for the most part when it comes to looking like modern bodybuilders, this is a peptide war. That's what Jay Cutler told Bboy, and I dont think he would lie to him. Jay said AAS means fuck all, just take as much GH as you can get your hands on.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: 20inch calves on January 25, 2012, 08:47:28 PM
he and i talked about that. he said you need to build up your tolerance over time. that is why he said it is a mistake to go 'off'.  look at an oxycontin addict taking 1000mg per day - if they did that the first time, they would die.


actually, if you look at when most street drug addicts overdose, it is straight out of rehab. they cleanout, lose their built up organ tolerance to the drug; and their former 'usual' dose reverts to a toxic dose.


makes sense i guess. but there is the rule of diminishing returns


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: jude2 on January 25, 2012, 09:04:19 PM
Guys what have we learned here. BB are full of shit, either way.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: trapz101 on January 25, 2012, 09:59:51 PM
99% of his gears were bunk...sadly no gh15 in that time


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: chess315 on January 25, 2012, 10:37:19 PM
the toxicity level for caffiene is pretty high. i think 2 grams would put most people into a state of extreme uncomfort and they might even call poison control, but they would be alright.. wouldnt kill them or anything. i just have an extreme tolerance to all kinds of drugs and have to abuse the shit out of them to feel anything.. whether its weed, ecsacy, caffiene, or steroids...
I was thinking the same thing when you said 2grams that could possible put someone in the emergency room


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: chess315 on January 25, 2012, 10:41:49 PM
if you took 5O grams a week thats injecting 2ounces of powder into your blood never mind the half a liter of oil your using as a carrier even if that was inert powder and oil you could have serious trouble.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Meso_z on January 25, 2012, 11:10:03 PM
You heard it fellas, straight from the horses mouth  ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: animal1991 on January 26, 2012, 12:36:32 AM
He probably had shit response to hormones


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: da_vinci on January 26, 2012, 12:46:38 AM
He tries to pull Liar Priest /in reverse/.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Max_Rep on January 26, 2012, 12:51:55 AM


It is hard to believe. 9 of them, Wes, for christ sake ! That's insane !!! Buuuuuuuuut .... Pete G. was WIDELY known to be an insane kind of guy. What most people here might not know is Pete G. was known for his recreational use as well. So add that to his 10,000 mg's of juice !! That's why my mind is blown right now. This fucker is still alive ! Hahahahaha !!! Wow !!


Peteís recreational use was limited (as far as I know) to marijuana but he really, really likes to indulge all the time. I went over to his house in Apple Valley a few years ago hadnít seen him in years and within the first half hour he cracked out his stash and lit up. I donít smoke it anymore but my business partner and Pete got pretty buzzed.

The one person here who would be able to shed some light on Peteís actual dosages would be Max Rep as he knew him well and also trained with him.


You are partially correct Tim. I knew Pete well and in Rochester we were both key-carrying members of a small private gym in a dungeon of an old, old, old building. Pete sold me my first cycle. I never trained with him but saw part of his workouts. He always talked about massive dosages but never actual amounts. He said stuff like ď3 shots a dayĒ of Primabolin Acetate (from Germany) which was about 100 mg/cc. and came in 1 cc vials as I remember. Even at 3 ccís per shot that would only be 900 mg a day. For orals he liked Anavar and regularly took an entire bottle in from of people. At 2.5 mg per tablet that would be 250 mg per sitting so letís assume 3 bottles per day. I think weíre up to 750 mg in  orals plus 900 mg worth of injectable drugs. Thatís 1,650 in a day. I donít see how he could quintuple that. Maybe itís true.

The thing about Pete is he loves to be a shock jock. I think the bottle of Anavar was to shock people. In those days you could bust a bottle out in public and no one really cared. Pete is a total a blast to be around and he had even more charisma and natural business sense than any MBA Iíve ever met. Yet never went to college. Incredible entrepreneur      


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Figo on January 26, 2012, 01:33:11 AM
Maxrep,

Thanks for the above post

Where did pete initially come across money , how did he become wealthy?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Meso_z on January 26, 2012, 02:04:20 AM
I thought it was all steak and whole eggs?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 26, 2012, 03:30:49 AM
I thought it was all steak and whole eggs?
it's not???  :'(


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: qbkilla on January 26, 2012, 03:39:18 AM
u mean danta rack deads and some ps200102 peptide from ergo will not get me big?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: funk51 on January 26, 2012, 08:25:09 AM
Peteís recreational use was limited (as far as I know) to marijuana but he really, really likes to indulge all the time. I went over to his house in Apple Valley a few years ago hadnít seen him in years and within the first half hour he cracked out his stash and lit up. I donít smoke it anymore but my business partner and Pete got pretty buzzed.
 

You are partially correct Tim. I knew Pete well and in Rochester we were both key-carrying members of a small private gym in a dungeon of an old, old, old building. Pete sold me my first cycle. I never trained with him but saw part of his workouts. He always talked about massive dosages but never actual amounts. He said stuff like ď3 shots a dayĒ of Primabolin Acetate (from Germany) which was about 100 mg/cc. and came in 1 cc vials as I remember. Even at 3 ccís per shot that would only be 900 mg a day. For orals he liked Anavar and regularly took an entire bottle in from of people. At 2.5 mg per tablet that would be 250 mg per sitting so letís assume 3 bottles per day. I think weíre up to 750 mg in  orals plus 900 mg worth of injectable drugs. Thatís 1,650 in a day. I donít see how he could quintuple that. Maybe itís true.

The thing about Pete is he loves to be a shock jock. I think the bottle of Anavar was to shock people. In those days you could bust a bottle out in public and no one really cared. Pete is a total a blast to be around and he had even more charisma and natural business sense than any MBA Iíve ever met. Yet never went to college. Incredible entrepreneur      

wasn't his family in the construction business?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Thespritz0 on January 26, 2012, 08:52:29 AM
 He should be a lot bigger for this amount of sauce. But seriously, taking several grams of sauce a day, every day, is not possible for more than a few weeks. I don't care who you are, your liver would collapse after a few weeks at the most on these amounts. He is clearly exaggerating on the doses to boost ratings.

  The reason why the guys from the 1970s were smaller is lack of insulin and overtraining. These guys would do 2 training sessions a day for 3 hours each with tons of sets. This is why most of them competed at around 220 lbs despite all the drugs, since they were constantly destroying their muscles through excessive exercise.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
^^
One of the smartest, most learned comments EVER posted by anyone!!!  Props SUCKMYMUSCLE!!!!


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Thespritz0 on January 26, 2012, 08:55:01 AM
Does he outline the compounds and specific dosages in interview?
^^
YES, and I did listen, you can fast-forward until half-way into the radio show, he's on from then onward- fascinating stuff!!!


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Thespritz0 on January 26, 2012, 08:57:24 AM
In before Coach comes on and says most of the guys back then were pretty clean ::)
^^
 ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Thespritz0 on January 26, 2012, 09:04:47 AM
Peteís recreational use was limited (as far as I know) to marijuana but he really, really likes to indulge all the time. I went over to his house in Apple Valley a few years ago hadnít seen him in years and within the first half hour he cracked out his stash and lit up. I donít smoke it anymore but my business partner and Pete got pretty buzzed.
 

You are partially correct Tim. I knew Pete well and in Rochester we were both key-carrying members of a small private gym in a dungeon of an old, old, old building. Pete sold me my first cycle. I never trained with him but saw part of his workouts. He always talked about massive dosages but never actual amounts. He said stuff like ď3 shots a dayĒ of Primabolin Acetate (from Germany) which was about 100 mg/cc. and came in 1 cc vials as I remember. Even at 3 ccís per shot that would only be 900 mg a day. For orals he liked Anavar and regularly took an entire bottle in from of people. At 2.5 mg per tablet that would be 250 mg per sitting so letís assume 3 bottles per day. I think weíre up to 750 mg in  orals plus 900 mg worth of injectable drugs. Thatís 1,650 in a day. I donít see how he could quintuple that. Maybe itís true.

The thing about Pete is he loves to be a shock jock. I think the bottle of Anavar was to shock people. In those days you could bust a bottle out in public and no one really cared. Pete is a total a blast to be around and he had even more charisma and natural business sense than any MBA Iíve ever met. Yet never went to college. Incredible entrepreneur      

^^

MAX, did Pete use very heavy weights for his 100 sets-per-workout sessions, and can you verify IF this is true... MIDNIGHT to 7am workout followed by (his words) going to the fast-food restaurant where his girlfriend gave him 12 burgers, then he slept under the Santa Monica peer???


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 26, 2012, 09:17:31 AM
In before Coach comes on and says most of the guys back then were pretty clean ::)

Not everyone was Pete Grymkowski ::)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Max_Rep on January 26, 2012, 10:48:03 AM

He should be a lot bigger for this amount of sauce. But seriously, taking several grams of sauce a day, every day, is not possible for more than a few weeks. I don't care who you are, your liver would collapse after a few weeks at the most on these amounts. He is clearly exaggerating on the doses to boost ratings.

The reason why the guys from the 1970s were smaller is lack of insulin and overtraining. These guys would do 2 training sessions a day for 3 hours each with tons of sets. This is why most of them competed at around 220 lbs despite all the drugs, since they were constantly destroying their muscles through excessive exercise.


The year Jim Morris won the AAU America he was 215 or 220. At that contest Pete was 255 and no one was even close in size at the time. Pete did not like heavy androgens like D-bol and no one used test back thenÖ we didnít even know it existed until around 1982-3. Over-trained yes.


Maxrep,

Where did pete initially come across money, how did he become wealthy?

When he was back east, he bounced at a club but had a thriving clientele for gear. 



wasn't his family in the construction business?


Yeah, Ďfamilyí business. They manufactured cement shoes. Pete had some Ďconnectionsí but I donít think they ran deep because once he bought Goldís (51% 0wner of corporate Goldís from 1979 to 2000) there was no one looking for a cut.

He shared with me that the major money Pete, Tim and Ed made from Goldís was from the T-shirt sales. One year they were #2 in their category. Harley Davidson was #1. Remember, they had David Lee Roth, Hulk Hogan, Sylvester Stallone all wearing Goldís T-Shirts so of course everyone wanted one. 

MAX, did Pete use very heavy weights for his 100 sets-per-workout sessions, and can you verify IF this is true... MIDNIGHT to 7am workout followed by (his words) going to the fast-food restaurant where his girlfriend gave him 12 burgers, then he slept under the Santa Monica peer???


Iíve heard him talk about the 100 set workouts, the MIDNIGHT to 7 am workouts etc for years but I wasnít in the gym at the time so I cannot verify it. I saw him using some pretty heavy weights a few times (315 for 6-7 reps on the incline, BNP with 275 for reps) but I donít know if the 100 set workouts where all heavy weights.

Iíve never seen ANYONE be able to eat as much food as Pete. Usually good food too. He was lean when I saw him last and I mean probably 30 inch waist down to 180. He ordered Chinese delivery but clean stuff. Rice, fish, beef... he PILED his plate 3 times and ate more than myself, my business partner and his 25 year old wife combined AND he was still eating when were all done. I think the guy has hollow legs.

Pete had a design for a crude seated leg press machine that he sold for a while. When he went to Florida to train with Arthur Jones, Casey and Sergio he told Arthur that they didnít need the cam on the Nautilus machines to accomplish the variable resistance. All he needed was an off-center balance arm. That was the basis of Peteís leg press. He was right of course but Nautilus had already taken off and Arthur had already put a lot of print behind the Nautilus shaped cam.

When Arthurís son Gary Jones started Hammer Strength he employed Peteís idea of the off-center balance arm and one of his first machines was a seated leg press that was a much nicer looking version of Peteís. I know for fact that Pete talked about this off-center balance arm long before Hammer ever came out.
         


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: no one on January 26, 2012, 12:14:42 PM
Peteís recreational use was limited (as far as I know) to marijuana but he really, really likes to indulge all the time. I went over to his house in Apple Valley a few years ago hadnít seen him in years and within the first half hour he cracked out his stash and lit up. I donít smoke it anymore but my business partner and Pete got pretty buzzed.
 

You are partially correct Tim. I knew Pete well and in Rochester we were both key-carrying members of a small private gym in a dungeon of an old, old, old building. Pete sold me my first cycle. I never trained with him but saw part of his workouts. He always talked about massive dosages but never actual amounts. He said stuff like ď3 shots a dayĒ of Primabolin Acetate (from Germany) which was about 100 mg/cc. and came in 1 cc vials as I remember. Even at 3 ccís per shot that would only be 900 mg a day. For orals he liked Anavar and regularly took an entire bottle in from of people. At 2.5 mg per tablet that would be 250 mg per sitting so letís assume 3 bottles per day. I think weíre up to 750 mg in  orals plus 900 mg worth of injectable drugs. Thatís 1,650 in a day. I donít see how he could quintuple that. Maybe itís true.

The thing about Pete is he loves to be a shock jock. I think the bottle of Anavar was to shock people. In those days you could bust a bottle out in public and no one really cared. Pete is a total a blast to be around and he had even more charisma and natural business sense than any MBA Iíve ever met. Yet never went to college. Incredible entrepreneur      


thanks for this post.

goes to show you the body is more resiliant to high doses over a prolonged period than most people would think.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Shockwave on January 26, 2012, 12:17:20 PM
The year Jim Morris won the AAU America he was 215 or 220. At that contest Pete was 255 and no one was even close in size at the time. Pete did not like heavy androgens like D-bol and no one used test back thenÖ we didnít even know it existed until around 1982-3. Over-trained yes.


When he was back east, he bounced at a club but had a thriving clientele for gear. 


Yeah, Ďfamilyí business. They manufactured cement shoes. Pete had some Ďconnectionsí but I donít think they ran deep because once he bought Goldís (51% 0wner of corporate Goldís from 1979 to 2000) there was no one looking for a cut.

He shared with me that the major money Pete, Tim and Ed made from Goldís was from the T-shirt sales. One year they were #2 in their category. Harley Davidson was #1. Remember, they had David Lee Roth, Hulk Hogan, Sylvester Stallone all wearing Goldís T-Shirts so of course everyone wanted one. 

Iíve heard him talk about the 100 set workouts, the MIDNIGHT to 7 am workouts etc for years but I wasnít in the gym at the time so I cannot verify it. I saw him using some pretty heavy weights a few times (315 for 6-7 reps on the incline, BNP with 275 for reps) but I donít know if the 100 set workouts where all heavy weights.

Iíve never seen ANYONE be able to eat as much food as Pete. Usually good food too. He was lean when I saw him last and I mean probably 30 inch waist down to 180. He ordered Chinese delivery but clean stuff. Rice, fish, beef... he PILED his plate 3 times and ate more than myself, my business partner and his 25 year old wife combined AND he was still eating when were all done. I think the guy has hollow legs.

Pete had a design for a crude seated leg press machine that he sold for a while. When he went to Florida to train with Arthur Jones, Casey and Sergio he told Arthur that they didnít need the cam on the Nautilus machines to accomplish the variable resistance. All he needed was an off-center balance arm. That was the basis of Peteís leg press. He was right of course but Nautilus had already taken off and Arthur had already put a lot of print behind the Nautilus shaped cam.

When Arthurís son Gary Jones started Hammer Strength he employed Peteís idea of the off-center balance arm and one of his first machines was a seated leg press that was a much nicer looking version of Peteís. I know for fact that Pete talked about this off-center balance arm long before Hammer ever came out.
         

Cool stuff man.
Good info. Interesting to see bodybuilders of old actually were successful and used their brains. Lol.
Makes todays crop seem like a group of drug addled deadbeats, lol.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on January 26, 2012, 12:26:20 PM
it was prop underdoses and bunk shit, no wonder he needed 70,000mg/weekly


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 26, 2012, 12:29:16 PM
So he's saying he used Test, but Max Rep (and many others form back that era) say test wasn't even that popular back then?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Rami on January 26, 2012, 12:30:00 PM
blown up from "within"


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 26, 2012, 12:42:22 PM
So he's saying he used Test, but Max Rep (and many others form back that era) say test wasn't even that popular back then?

It wasnt popular but it was around, the bread and butter was Dbol and Deca for the bodybuilder, Test was mostly used by power lifters and Pete said in the interview he learned from powerlifters


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 26, 2012, 12:44:40 PM
Not everyone was Pete Grymkowski ::)

Just playing Coach


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 26, 2012, 12:47:12 PM
This guy Pete is a prime example of what GH15 has been saying. Steroids won't give you 3D look. And they will only get you "so" big. Its the GH that brings it all to a whole new level.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 26, 2012, 05:28:04 PM
that people are actually surprised... lol...
steroids were legal back then.... all pharm grade....
cheap, readily available...
what would you do if you were around that time??? ABUSE the fuck out of them.... i know i would... lol...
guys of that era were bodybuilders just like we are.... sickminded narcists.... lol...


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 26, 2012, 05:41:33 PM
I laugh at some of the posters who earlier said that Grymkowski was small.......255 fairly lean during the 70`s without a 40 pound gut is hardly fucking small.

Thanks for sharing all that info David.......good stuff as usual bud!  ;)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 26, 2012, 05:42:39 PM
It wasnt popular but it was around, the bread and butter was Dbol and Deca for the bodybuilder, Test was mostly used by power lifters and Pete said in the interview he learned from powerlifters
Also a lot of anavar and winstrol tabs were used back in the day before test became popular.........(early 80`s ).


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: BB on January 26, 2012, 05:43:59 PM
It wasnt popular but it was around, the bread and butter was Dbol and Deca for the bodybuilder, Test was mostly used by power lifters and Pete said in the interview he learned from powerlifters

Yeah, Test was huge in Powerlifting, Track and Field, and Football at the time.

As to the rest, no way I believe the number, I could believe 10 grams a week of stuff, but not 10 grams a day. He's playing the "how much bullshit can I get these guys to believe?" game.  


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Vince B on January 26, 2012, 06:17:06 PM
that people are actually surprised... lol...
steroids were legal back then.... all pharm grade....
cheap, readily available...
what would you do if you were around that time??? ABUSE the fuck out of them.... i know i would... lol...
guys of that era were bodybuilders just like we are.... sickminded narcists.... lol...


No, you probably wouldn't have in those days. Why? Because not much was known about steroids and long term useage.

Everyone was afraid of side-effects.....like acne, baldness and maybe even cancer. That is what the doctors warned and we took that seriously.

That doesn't mean that some of the muscleheads experimented and took heaps more than recommended. Most used

for a while then went off. It was very conservative in the old days. Eventually, dosages were increased when guys

survived the drugs. Heck, only the insiders knew much about the darn chemicals. Yes, there were a few 'steroid'

doctors who gave prescriptions and supervised the bodybuilders but there was some shame associated with using

drugs as it was considered unnatural and cheating. Sort of wiped out any prestige of winning a big title.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 26, 2012, 06:49:11 PM
No, you probably wouldn't have in those days. Why? Because not much was known about steroids and long term useage.

Everyone was afraid of side-effects.....like acne, baldness and maybe even cancer. That is what the doctors warned and we took that seriously.

That doesn't mean that some of the muscleheads experimented and took heaps more than recommended. Most used

for a while then went off. It was very conservative in the old days. Eventually, dosages were increased when guys

survived the drugs. Heck, only the insiders knew much about the darn chemicals. Yes, there were a few 'steroid'

doctors who gave prescriptions and supervised the bodybuilders but there was some shame associated with using

drugs as it was considered unnatural and cheating. Sort of wiped out any prestige of winning a big title.
you underestimate the sickness of bodybuilding my friend...
today people use untested peptides.... hell even gene altering drugs with virus attached to it.....
you think guys from the 70's were not abusing the flying fuck about steroids???? lololol!!!
if anything people were a lot more open minded back then.. after the 60's... drugs was not a big deal...
steroids were looked at as supplements.... legal, cheap....
btw a lot was known about steroids vince... test was first synthesized in early 30's....
for gods sake, Hitler was on trt! testoviron by schering!!!
you think reeves did not know about these things? lol... clueless people... ::) ::) ::) ::)

you don't get to be arnold size.... louie size, hell even corney size without being a big, big abuser....
even sergio said, we used whatever was available.... and how much? as much as they could afford.. lol!
even heavy on orals... nobody died, nobody got sick.... why ? because steroids are not THAT dangerous.
you really have you head far up your ass, vince....
guys back then were abusing.... that is what you should have done....! now it is to late.... missed opportunity.....
you missed out my man....
no please do not bother me anymore with these silly posts..... much appreciated..
have a good night vince... ;D



Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 26, 2012, 07:15:44 PM
and you can bet the communist athletes were subjected to way more than Pete used. they had such swollen prostates they couldn't piss by the time they were 20. it took me till i was 46 to get mine that swollen!!  haha


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 26, 2012, 07:23:45 PM
and you can bet the communist athletes were subjected to way more than Pete used. they had such swollen prostates they couldn't piss by the time they were 20. it took me till i was 46 to get mine that swollen!!  haha
lol!!!
bro at 46 it's probably your age not even the steroids.... lol!
but yeah some stories about the ussr and ddr are sick!!!!!


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: BOW on January 26, 2012, 07:41:18 PM
One of my patients today had his nutsack swollen to the size of a cantelope. It basically swallowed up his dick. Poor guy...


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: jude2 on January 26, 2012, 07:49:59 PM
He tries to pull Liar Priest /in reverse/.
This right here.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: FAST LANE on January 26, 2012, 07:50:09 PM
^^ Haha WTF!!!!  :o That's terrible lol


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: jude2 on January 26, 2012, 08:06:04 PM
^^ Haha WTF!!!!  :o That's terrible lol
These dumb asses just want attention.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Max_Rep on January 26, 2012, 11:28:27 PM
I laugh at some of the posters who earlier said that Grymkowski was small.......255 fairly lean during the 70`s without a 40 pound gut is hardly fucking small.

Thanks for sharing all that info David.......good stuff as usual bud!  ;)

I laugh as well Tim. Always fun to talk about that time.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: chess315 on January 26, 2012, 11:30:51 PM
I laugh as well Tim. Always fun to talk about that time.
ya the pix of him you always see don't really do him justice he was a mass monster


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Figo on January 27, 2012, 01:23:16 AM
I laugh at some of the posters who earlier said that Grymkowski was small.......255 fairly lean during the 70`s without a 40 pound gut is hardly fucking small.


that means haney was small too, as grymko was only a couple inches taller

Ive recently realized that to some the "old days" is when ronnie was mr O, the rest is ancient history, so grymko falls under pre-historic

and anything under 280lbs is small... with the obligatory minimum 40lb gut as you said


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 27, 2012, 02:22:23 AM
I laugh as well Tim. Always fun to talk about that time.
people are delusional here....
he was huge... very big dude....
great look btw!
i like the look of the 70's up to late 80's....
late 80's is really 70's physique with the addition of hgh only.... and not abuse of hgh..
in my eyes this makes the best looking bodies!
high anabolics
modarate androgens
moderate hgh


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 27, 2012, 02:26:12 AM
Hell yeah fellas!  ;)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Figo on January 27, 2012, 02:54:09 AM
people are delusional here....
he was huge... very big dude....
great look btw!
i like the look of the 70's up to late 80's....
late 80's is really 70's physique with the addition of hgh only.... and not abuse of hgh..
in my eyes this makes the best looking bodies!
high anabolics
modarate androgens
moderate hgh

X 2


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 27, 2012, 02:59:52 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=411548.0;attach=454794;image)

Here`s a good pic of skinny old wimpy looking Pete.......the guy was incredibly tiny!!  ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 27, 2012, 03:02:47 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=411548.0;attach=454794;image)

Here`s a good pic of skinny old wimpy looking Pete.......the guy was incredibly tiny!!  ;D
lol... @ the chipmunk cheecks....
and that hair... what were they thinking in the 70's hahahahahah
but yeah , huge.... people calling that tiny....  ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 27, 2012, 03:03:37 AM
Hamdullah always looks great.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: WillGrant on January 27, 2012, 03:15:59 AM
He's taking the piss obviously


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 27, 2012, 03:17:56 AM
::)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 27, 2012, 03:20:04 AM
Hamdullah always looks great.
lol getbig must be confused.... i posted the hamdullah pics in another thread.... lol....
well , guy looks great also.. lol...


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 27, 2012, 03:40:39 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=411548.0;attach=454794;image)

Here`s a good pic of skinny old wimpy looking Pete.......the guy was incredibly tiny!!  ;D

I wish i was that tiny


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Rhino on January 27, 2012, 05:00:17 AM
 He should be a lot bigger for this amount of sauce. But seriously, taking several grams of sauce a day, every day, is not possible for more than a few weeks. I don't care who you are, your liver would collapse after a few weeks at the most on these amounts. He is clearly exaggerating on the doses to boost ratings.

  The reason why the guys from the 1970s were smaller is lack of insulin and overtraining. These guys would do 2 training sessions a day for 3 hours each with tons of sets. This is why most of them competed at around 220 lbs despite all the drugs, since they were constantly destroying their muscles through excessive exercise.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
milk thistle???


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Rhino on January 27, 2012, 05:06:17 AM
and you can bet the communist athletes were subjected to way more than Pete used. they had such swollen prostates they couldn't piss by the time they were 20. it took me till i was 46 to get mine that swollen!!  haha
saw palmetto =/


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Rhino on January 27, 2012, 05:10:51 AM
i take about 2 grams grams 45 minutes before training  ;D
hard core /=


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: funk51 on January 27, 2012, 08:53:54 AM
does anyone have the pic from the mr america contest where pete is standing next to casy viator than you 'll see how tiny he was compared to a legend...


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 27, 2012, 09:06:10 AM
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1620/994433/1850393/22060149.jpg)
Not the 70` Mr. A,but looking large here.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Meso_z on January 27, 2012, 09:22:22 AM
They all look great  :o


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 27, 2012, 09:28:08 AM
They all look great  :o
All legends!


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: gh15 on January 27, 2012, 09:38:20 AM
the thing that is surprising to me is that he had no obvious injection sites anywhere.

why would he ,, we always inject in the ass and onlyh in the ass,,

i keep teling you felas how it is and you kepe trying to ask who is gh15 bla blee bloo,, i speak the truth ,, i risk my life for it ,, i truly risk mylife ,, but! i also am conected deep to make sure bodybuild will fall and all sourcing wil colapse if something hapen to me ,, im that conected!

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: gh15 on January 27, 2012, 09:41:48 AM
people are delusional here....
he was huge... very big dude....
great look btw!
i like the look of the 70's up to late 80's....
late 80's is really 70's physique with the addition of hgh only.... and not abuse of hgh..
in my eyes this makes the best looking bodies!
high anabolics
modarate androgens
moderate hgh

now this! is a fella that is on paralel with van b on knowledge

those are the shining stars of getbig.com,,

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: ChristopherA on January 27, 2012, 10:11:21 AM
why would he ,, we always inject in the ass and onlyh in the ass,,

i keep teling you felas how it is and you kepe trying to ask who is gh15 bla blee bloo,, i speak the truth ,, i risk my life for it ,, i truly risk mylife ,, but! i also am conected deep to make sure bodybuild will fall and all sourcing wil colapse if something hapen to me ,, im that conected!

gh15 approved
Blah, blah, blah. There's a shocker, GH15 coming into a thread trying to make it about him.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 27, 2012, 11:47:00 AM
hey, if Pete could have his deltoids surgically removed and transplanted within his abdomen he could compete with the pros of today!! ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Figo on January 27, 2012, 12:21:47 PM
Padilla chose the worst guy to stand next to there

What is grymko, 6'1" ?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 27, 2012, 12:24:21 PM
hey, if Pete could have his deltoids surgically removed and transplanted within his abdomen he could compete with the pros of today!! ;D
;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Growth NOOB on January 27, 2012, 12:55:29 PM
10 grams a week is pushing it.

10 grams a day is just physically impossible.  Not happening.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: gh15 on January 27, 2012, 01:45:28 PM
there is no need for 10 gram a week of aas,, if you cant get there with 2 gram total you wont be able to ghet there with 5 or with 10 ,,

its the gh! that matter not the aas,, aas matter as secondary tool

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: SmoofCat on January 27, 2012, 02:10:42 PM
You have to be nuts to get anywhere in this cult, i know competitors who compete at 65kg and 70kg weight classes and they take at least 3 grams per week, 200mg-300mg Anadrol per day is normal for them, 1500mg Deca per week is their base then add in all the other stuff plus the GH, they look great but just short ;D

holy shit on 1500 mg deca i would look like utter fucking garbage


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Max_Rep on January 27, 2012, 10:57:27 PM
Padilla chose the worst guy to stand next to there

What is grymko, 6'1" ?

5'11"


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Figo on January 28, 2012, 12:06:06 AM
5'11"

Thought he was taller

This guy was the original mass monster

Even haney, who is 5'11" only weighed 250 late 80s


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 28, 2012, 12:16:29 AM
holy shit on 1500 mg deca i would look like utter fucking garbage

Wrong, they look good and they are top competitors in their part of the world, 1500mg Test makes you look garbage, 1500mg Deca makes you big and muscular unless you are a fat bloof to begin with, lean guys with foundation blow up good on Deca, Arnold and the 70's guys didnt look like garbage, what you think they didnt use lots of Deca ::)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 28, 2012, 05:05:10 AM
Wrong, they look good and they are top competitors in their part of the world, 1500mg Test makes you look garbage, 1500mg Deca makes you big and muscular unless you are a fat bloof to begin with, lean guys with foundation blow up good on Deca, Arnold and the 70's guys didnt look like garbage, what you think they didnt use lots of Deca ::)
By the way where did swampi the cocksmith go?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 28, 2012, 05:50:48 AM
By the way where did swampi the cocksmith go?

He was told not to post here but the truth is he couldn't handle the Thunderdome


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 28, 2012, 10:42:32 AM
Ive got the book Muscle,Smoke and Mirrors vol. 2

Pete's stack that was described in the book was

He would do 3000mg per day of combined orals and injects, then 3 weeks out from the contest he would take 10,000mg per day combine total, he would use Winstrol, Anavar and Maxibolin ??? he preferred the least water retaining drugs, only used Dianabol when on a contest rebound.
Also started using Clomid and Nolvdex in the early 70's, also used Thyroid meds


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: QuakerOats on January 28, 2012, 10:46:49 AM
hes full of shit, even if he was getting the shit at a discount it would still be too costly and your immune system would shut down from 10,000mg. of ANYTHING entering your body.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 28, 2012, 11:21:16 AM
hes full of shit, even if he was getting the shit at a discount it would still be too costly and your immune system would shut down from 10,000mg. of ANYTHING entering your body.

He was a dealer so he'd probably be able to take as much as he wanted to but you're right about his immune system getting fucked


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: QuakerOats on January 28, 2012, 11:23:05 AM
He was a dealer so he'd probably be able to take as much as he wanted to but you're right about his immune system getting fucked

if he was a dealer hed be using up his own damn supply at that rate. :o


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 28, 2012, 11:27:16 AM
Ive got the book Muscle,Smoke and Mirrors vol. 2

Are those books worth getting?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 28, 2012, 11:29:43 AM
if he was a dealer hed be using up his own damn supply at that rate. :o

Are you suggesting he forgot the long time dealer tradition of ''dont get high off your own supply''


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 28, 2012, 11:30:39 AM
Are those books worth getting?

Ive only got Vol 2, if you are into bodybuilding history then yes well worth getting


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on January 28, 2012, 01:07:39 PM
I'm still not buyin' it.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 28, 2012, 03:57:43 PM
Blah, blah, blah. There's a shocker, GH15 coming into a thread trying to make it about him.
well.... getbig = gh15...
whoever he is, he is what makes getbig different....getbig stands out of the crowd...
here is where people find the truth.... which is a good thing...
to many liars, and stupid forums where they confuse minds...



Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: jude2 on January 28, 2012, 04:09:48 PM
I'm still not buyin' it.
Same here.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 28, 2012, 04:17:42 PM
Ive got the book Muscle,Smoke and Mirrors vol. 2

Pete's stack that was described in the book was

He would do 3000mg per day of combined orals and injects, then 3 weeks out from the contest he would take 10,000mg per day combine total, he would use Winstrol, Anavar and Maxibolin ??? he preferred the least water retaining drugs, only used Dianabol when on a contest rebound.
Also started using Clomid and Nolvdex in the early 70's, also used Thyroid meds

10 grams a day of those orals for three weeks... what's that, about 4000 steroid pills a day? LOL  :D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: QuakerOats on January 28, 2012, 04:24:27 PM
10 grams a day of those orals for three weeks... what's that, about 4000 steroid pills a day? LOL  :D
he's full of shit, i wish hed get on here so he could get raped on his dosage claims, 225 on 100000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000mg. a day he's a fucking MONSTERRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::) ::)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 28, 2012, 04:29:14 PM
he's full of shit,

Of course

The thing about Pete is he loves to be a shock jock.



Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: QuakerOats on January 28, 2012, 04:35:52 PM
a bottle of test, a bottle of deca, a bottle of winstrol and 150 DBol a day just to finish 11th at the Mr. America.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: FAST LANE on January 28, 2012, 06:02:20 PM
a bottle of test, a bottle of deca, a bottle of winstrol and 150 DBol a day just to finish 11th at the Mr. America.
LOL

Yeah, it's definitely bullshit


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: ChristopherA on January 28, 2012, 06:13:50 PM
well.... getbig = gh15...
whoever he is, he is what makes getbig different....getbig stands out of the crowd...
here is where people find the truth.... which is a good thing...
to many liars, and stupid forums where they confuse minds...


To be clear I dont disagree with alot of what GH15 says. He can be over the top but when it comes to hormones, he's def the man. BB isnt what my life revolves around though, so he's not my god LOL. Really it's the noobs with under 100 posts coming on here, starting threads blowing the guy that annoy me and not GH himself. They think they are gonna endere themselves to him when they dont realize he prob gets hundreds of PM's kissing his ass every day. It's no big deal to him. His real "follower's" like g101, you, shmoe buster are all cool and know your shit. And getbig doesnt equal GH15 for everyone.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 28, 2012, 06:30:00 PM
To be clear I dont disagree with alot of what GH15 says. He can be over the top but when it comes to hormones, he's def the man. BB isnt what my life revolves around though, so he's not my god LOL. Really it's the noobs with under 100 posts coming on here, starting threads blowing the guy that annoy me and not GH himself. They think they are gonna endere themselves to him when they dont realize he prob gets hundreds of PM's kissing his ass every day. It's no big deal to him. His real "follower's" like g101, you, shmoe buster are all cool and know your shit. And getbig doesnt equal GH15 for everyone.
agreed!
what i meant = getbig got so big because of gh15.... can't denie that... only place where true info is spread!! talked about a lot... be it positive or negative .... but talked about...
and he calls himself god.. god of hormones... all in good fun man... the message is dead serious though.
about these asskissers... yeah agreed bro!
but gh15 knows who is just kissing ass , who are just repeating what he says...
and he knows who have real knowledge....


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: QuakerOats on January 28, 2012, 07:14:26 PM
agreed!
what i meant = getbig got so big because of gh15.... can't denie that... only place where true info is spread!! talked about a lot... be it positive or negative .... but talked about...
and he calls himself god.. god of hormones... all in good fun man... the message is dead serious though.
about these asskissers... yeah agreed bro!
but gh15 knows who is just kissing ass , who are just repeating what he says...
and he knows who have real knowledge....
/
GH is the king of Getbig now, then and in the future, no one has had more of aan impact on truth in the world of bodybuilding.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: WillGrant on January 28, 2012, 07:25:15 PM
a bottle of test, a bottle of deca, a bottle of winstrol and 150 DBol a day just to finish 11th at the Mr. America.
Living the dream  :D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: gh15 on January 28, 2012, 07:30:56 PM
agreed!
what i meant = getbig got so big because of gh15.... can't denie that... only place where true info is spread!! talked about a lot... be it positive or negative .... but talked about...
and he calls himself god.. god of hormones... all in good fun man... the message is dead serious though.
about these asskissers... yeah agreed bro!
but gh15 knows who is just kissing ass , who are just repeating what he says...
and he knows who have real knowledge....


yes,, if someone thing i actualy think im god lol then they have brain damage of the 9th degree,, everyone shoud understand its part of character,, i mean do you know any psycos who would go calthemselfes gods? lol aside from white widow lol ,, only wwf type of language,, if i realy thoguht i was god the real god would burn me alive in hell

its part of the all thunderdome thing

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 28, 2012, 08:01:03 PM
yes,, if someone thing i actualy think im god lol then they have brain damage of the 9th degree,, everyone shoud understand its part of character,, i mean do you know any psycos who would go calthemselfes gods? lol aside from white widow lol ,, only wwf type of language,, if i realy thoguht i was god the real god would burn me alive in hell

its part of the all thunderdome thing

gh15 approved
the message and mission is serious.... but we can have fun doing it... 
life = allready sooo serious....
plus, where does a grown ass man, get to be called an elf and thinks it's cool? only in the Thunderdome...
 ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 28, 2012, 10:57:42 PM
10 grams a day of those orals for three weeks... what's that, about 4000 steroid pills a day? LOL  :D

No, only the Anavar is oral, the Winstrol and Maxibolin were injects


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: gh2 on January 29, 2012, 03:04:59 AM
No, only the Anavar is oral, the Winstrol and Maxibolin were injects

It doesn't matter. 10 grams a day in any way is total bs.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 29, 2012, 03:18:04 AM
It doesn't matter. 10 grams a day in any way is total bs.

I'm quoting what was stated in a book, not what I think or believe, moron ::)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 29, 2012, 03:43:51 AM
I do not believe he took that much not even in a week. He was just boasting. Whatever happens at 2-3 grams won't be diff from 7-10.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: gh2 on January 29, 2012, 06:04:10 AM
I'm quoting what was stated in a book, not what I think or believe, moron ::)

Where you personally insulted and hurt by my post? Wow......relax and breathe!

Like I said, it doesn't matter if it is what it said somewhere or what you did or did not think or believe (when did this become about you!?), it is bs wherever it is from.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 29, 2012, 06:22:59 AM
I do not believe he took that much not even in a week. He was just boasting. Whatever happens at 2-3 grams won't be diff from 7-10.
^THIS^


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 29, 2012, 06:28:53 AM
Where you personally insulted and hurt by my post? Wow......relax and breathe!

Like I said, it doesn't matter if it is what it said somewhere or what you did or did not think or believe (when did this become about you!?), it is bs wherever it is from.

I never said it mattered, i was simply posting what was written in the book regarding the subject and posting it in this thread as information.

Now piss off gimmick, you contribute nothing ::)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 29, 2012, 06:37:27 AM
It's a shame there's never really been an accurate report of what the more important bbers of that era (Arnold, Sergio etc) took, unless I missed it.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: funk51 on January 29, 2012, 07:57:59 AM
Padilla chose the worst guy to stand next to there

What is grymko, 6'1" ?
or is it that padilla is 5 ft 2 ?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Figo on January 29, 2012, 08:10:31 AM
or is it that padilla is 5 ft 2 ?
probably both


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Figo on January 29, 2012, 08:18:22 AM
I do not believe he took that much not even in a week. He was just boasting. Whatever happens at 2-3 grams won't be diff from 7-10.
probably took somewhere around 3 gram mark, but as maxrep said, the guy was always into shock and awe, center of attention

The whole sleeping under boardwalk thing, training 7 hrs, eating dumpster bound loads of Mcds, etc, probably all happened at certain times, and not for long or often, but makes a good story.
Like when platz first arrived, he slept in his car, ate tuna cans in his car, his most prized possesion was a can opener..showered at the gym. It happenened for like a week, but they make it sound like he lived like that leading up to turninhg pro...

Either way, he does seem to be kind of guy that took things to extreme and was a fun guy. Also, an astute businessman


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 29, 2012, 08:22:21 AM
It's a shame there's never really been an accurate report of what the more important bbers of that era (Arnold, Sergio etc) took, unless I missed it.
you missed it.... ;D
sergio said they took everything they could get their hands on.... much like today... lol...
back in the day lots of primo, dbol, anadrol, nandrolone, stanozolol, test was around, really not much different then today... just no hgh yet... apart from a few elite ones.... (arnold)  ;)
they used more anabolics and less androgens though.... but they took boatloads... just like today lol...!


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 29, 2012, 08:24:38 AM
probably took somewhere around 3 gram mark, but as maxrep said, the guy was always into shock and awe, center of attention

The whole sleeping under boardwalk thing, training 7 hrs, eating dumpster bound loads of Mcds, etc, probably all happened at certain times, and not for long or often, but makes a good story.
Like when platz first arrived, he slept in his car, ate tuna cans in his car, his most prized possesion was a can opener..showered at the gym. It happenened for like a week, but they make it sound like he lived like that leading up to turninhg pro...

Either way, he does seem to be kind of guy that took things to extreme and was a fun guy. Also, an astute businessman

Seems like he'd be a pretty cool guy to chill with unlike, say, 99.9% of bb.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Figo on January 29, 2012, 09:25:29 AM
Seems like he'd be a pretty cool guy to chill with unlike, say, 99.9% of bb.
yep


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: dustin on January 29, 2012, 09:38:28 AM
I do not believe he took that much not even in a week. He was just boasting. Whatever happens at 2-3 grams won't be diff from 7-10.

There is one big difference, the side effects.

There's the point where returns begin to diminish and the only thing that climbs are the sides. Cardiovascular health and basically everything in your damn trunk starts rotting from the inside out. I think he's full of shit too.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Figo on January 29, 2012, 09:41:12 AM
There is one big difference, the side effects.

There's the point where returns begin to diminish and the only thing that climbs are the sides. Cardiovascular health and basically everything in your damn trunk starts rotting from the inside out. I think he's full of shit too.

For sure

The sides will increase massively, and very dangerously, but in a short-time frame, maybe won't kill..in all seriousness, this is enough to kill a horse, isn't it?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Thespritz0 on January 29, 2012, 09:44:45 AM
you missed it.... ;D
sergio said they took everything they could get their hands on.... much like today... lol...
back in the day lots of primo, dbol, anadrol, nandrolone, stanozolol, test was around, really not much different then today... just no hgh yet... apart from a few elite ones.... (arnold)  ;)
they used more anabolics and less androgens though.... but they took boatloads... just like today lol...!
^^
Do you have a link for this, I would LOVE to read more!!!


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 29, 2012, 10:44:56 AM
^^
Do you have a link for this, I would LOVE to read more!!!

x2


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 29, 2012, 01:01:28 PM
one thing that is certain.......    he was one of the most extreme users of the late 60's and throughout the 70's.

 AND HE IS STILL ALIVE OVER 40 YEARS LATER!!!!




Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: aesthetics on January 29, 2012, 01:04:14 PM
Hard to believe!!

I did 3 ccs(a full syringe) and couldn`t lay on a bench to do crunches the pain was so bad.

wtf. what were you injecting? test-prop?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: aesthetics on January 29, 2012, 01:29:46 PM
No, only the Anavar is oral, the Winstrol and Maxibolin were injects

winny is methylated either way and taking 4 grams of methylated gear a day will kill someones liver pretty quickly, i don't know if it will happen in 3 weeks but someone doing that would be extremely ill.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 29, 2012, 03:01:27 PM
one thing that is certain.......    he was one of the most extreme users of the late 60's and throughout the 70's.

 AND HE IS STILL ALIVE OVER 40 YEARS LATER!!!!



this bro....
and the majority is fine.....
all comes down to GENETICS...period....
strong genes.... long life
weak genes short life...

all this talk about steroids.... bla bla bla....
diuretics kill, narcotics kill,slin kills , and today the bb scene is sick.... sick.... lots of narcotics use and to much diuretics....overuse of slin..
hgh + steroids big , healthy , strong body....
we should go back to that.....
de Mey, Paris, Strydom, Haney, Gaspari, Labrada..... all healthy and fine and still in shape...
makes one wonder..... ;)



Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 29, 2012, 04:39:01 PM
winny is methylated either way and taking 4 grams of methylated gear a day will kill someones liver pretty quickly, i don't know if it will happen in 3 weeks but someone doing that would be extremely ill.

Did you see the post where i stated ''im just quoting what was in the book'' ::)

Fucking spastics on this site nowadays ::)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: QuakerOats on January 29, 2012, 04:40:30 PM
why are you guys still believing what this clown claimed? hes full of shit.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Skylge on January 29, 2012, 04:47:35 PM
probably both
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According to classicbodybuilders.com Pete was 5 ft 10

Same story in 2005:

http://forums.steroid.com/archive/index.php/t-143067.html (http://forums.steroid.com/archive/index.php/t-143067.html)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2012, 04:59:31 PM
why are you guys still believing what this clown claimed? hes full of shit.
def added few zeroes here few grms there,,,,


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 29, 2012, 05:05:00 PM
wtf. what were you injecting? test-prop?
Can`t remember but I had an egg sized fucking inflamed bump at the injection site..........lot of oil for one spot.

This happened on occasion and I would just attempt to massage it in order to try to help it disperse.

This was way back before I knew anything about half lives and shit......I`d just do a full pin and go.

I looked my best ever at times doing two shots at 3 cc`s each per week............long before I started rotating injection sites and spreading out dosages to keep levels high/constant in my system.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 29, 2012, 05:10:12 PM
Can`t remember but I had an egg sized fucking inflamed bump at the injection site..........lot of oil for one spot.

This happened on occasion and I would just attempt to massage it in order to try to help it disperse.

This was way back before I knew anything about half lives and shit......I`d just do a full pin and go.

I looked my best ever at times doing two shots at 3 cc`s each per week............long before I started rotating injection sites and spreading out dosages to keep levels high/constant in my system.

I've noticed that too. I'd rather do 2cc EOD of test prop vs the usually recommended 1cc ED (just comparing the same amount)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: howardroark on January 29, 2012, 05:16:37 PM
10g per day? I don't buy it. He'd have ENORMOUS bitch tits from that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lheit-moYbE


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 29, 2012, 05:18:18 PM
I've noticed that too. I'd rather do 2cc EOD of test prop vs the usually recommended 1cc ED (just comparing the same amount)
At one point,I would just do one full syringe at one time per week.......looked fucking great!

I was a lot younger though,but it seemed to work better for me .

Sometimes,ignorance is bliss !!


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2012, 05:25:46 PM
At one point,I would just do one full syringe at one time per week.......looked fucking great!

I was a lot younger though,but it seemed to work better for me .

Sometimes,ignorance is bliss !!
be blissful wes u deserve it,,,,


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 29, 2012, 05:32:18 PM
i have Dr. Robert Kerr's book on steroids. he says powerlifters used as many as 1500 5 mg dianabol tablets per day. and goes on to state, 'and that is at $5 per bottle!!!'  also full bottles of anavar daily and 40-50 anadrol per day.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: jude2 on January 29, 2012, 05:41:45 PM
i have Dr. Robert Kerr's book on steroids. he says powerlifters used as many as 1500 5 mg dianabol tablets per day. and goes on to state, 'and that is at $5 per bottle!!!'  also full bottles of anavar daily and 40-50 anadrol per day.
15 bottles a day of just d-bol bull shit. Where in the hell do u get a bottle of d-bol for $5. They would have such high blood pressure and water retention would be unmanagable. Not to mention the bottles of anavar and 40 anadrol. YEah right 2,000  pills a day. ::)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 29, 2012, 05:44:30 PM
i have Dr. Robert Kerr's book on steroids. he says powerlifters used as many as 1500 5 mg dianabol tablets per day. and goes on to state, 'and that is at $5 per bottle!!!'  also full bottles of anavar daily and 40-50 anadrol per day.

I guess the PLers didn't bother showing up at the meeting at Golds when they were deciding whether to go from 5mg to 10mg. :D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 29, 2012, 05:51:35 PM
i have Dr. Robert Kerr's book on steroids. he says powerlifters used as many as 1500 5 mg dianabol tablets per day. and goes on to state, 'and that is at $5 per bottle!!!'  also full bottles of anavar daily and 40-50 anadrol per day.
THAT`S FUCKING CRAZY INSANE.

A friend of mine from back home benched 722 at the Arnold Classic........315 with abs,75 D-Bols per day,tons of injects and GH.

Some people are just fucking nutty all for a godamn trophy that the average fuck on the street could care less about and even more so 10-15 years later.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 29, 2012, 05:52:19 PM
I guess the PLers didn't bother showing up at the meeting at Golds when they were deciding whether to go from 5mg to 10mg. :D
Good one bro!  ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 29, 2012, 05:55:46 PM
15 bottles a day of just d-bol bull shit. Where in the hell do u get a bottle of d-bol for $5. They would have such high blood pressure and water retention would be unmanagable. Not to mention the bottles of anavar and 40 anadrol. YEah right 2,000  pills a day. ::)

well, this was the 70's, so i'm sure it was the going rate.  i didn't see it, i didn't say it, i just quoted what a medical doctor wrote in a book that he published.  i heard of many lifters from the 80's that were doing a bottle of real dianabol every day, and it was about $20 a bottle then.

Dr. Kerr said that the reason the lifter came to him and admitted to 15 bottles per day is because he was pissing blood.

again, this is not me attesting to this, i am merely repeating what i read in the book.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 29, 2012, 06:08:04 PM
here's Pete placing second to 19 year old Viator.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 29, 2012, 06:13:12 PM
I LOL at the 'small" comments.............loo ks fucking humongous there!  ;D

Viator was the youngest Mr. America ever and was one thick SOB.

Third place guy is Bill St. Johns.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 29, 2012, 06:16:12 PM
well, this was the 70's, so i'm sure it was the going rate.  i didn't see it, i didn't say it, i just quoted what a medical doctor wrote in a book that he published.  i heard of many lifters from the 80's that were doing a bottle of real dianabol every day, and it was about $20 a bottle then.

Dr. Kerr said that the reason the lifter came to him and admitted to 15 bottles per day is because he was pissing blood.

again, this is not me attesting to this, i am merely repeating what i read in the book.
I knew a few guys late 70`s early to mid 80`s that pissed blood and got nosebleeds all the time when training.

Lots of the guys in our gym back then were on a lot of stuff,but the bleeders I mentioned were going crazy high dosages of orals,especially for back in those days.

No clue what dosages in case anyone asks.........loooooong time ago!!


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: jude2 on January 29, 2012, 07:31:46 PM
well, this was the 70's, so i'm sure it was the going rate.  i didn't see it, i didn't say it, i just quoted what a medical doctor wrote in a book that he published.  i heard of many lifters from the 80's that were doing a bottle of real dianabol every day, and it was about $20 a bottle then.

Dr. Kerr said that the reason the lifter came to him and admitted to 15 bottles per day is because he was pissing blood.

again, this is not me attesting to this, i am merely repeating what i read in the book.
Hazbin I know u didn't claim that u are too smart. Dr. Kerr just wants attention and to sell books. Now no doubt there was some who took 1 bottle a day which would be 100 pills fo just dbol, and some pissed blood.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: gh15 on January 29, 2012, 08:33:51 PM
I knew a few guys late 70`s early to mid 80`s that pissed blood and got nosebleeds all the time when training.

Lots of the guys in our gym back then were on a lot of stuff,but the bleeders I mentioned were going crazy high dosages of orals,especially for back in those days.

No clue what dosages in case anyone asks.........loooooong time ago!!

and you do know what were those blood orals right?

anadrola...


when you abuse anadrola you only look better,, blow up from within ,, OFCOURSE HGH MUST BE IN THE BLOOD or naturaly have high gh ,,or you can not eat whatever you want if not on synetic gh and your natural gh is like the average fella 1 to 1.5iu a day

most bodybuild back then ...their hgh was 2-2.5  iu a day in the age period they bodybuild which gave htem the ability to abuse anadrola and still! eventhouhg causes massive problems ...still! look good ,, not today level of bodyfat and condition but they looked superb for the time which ofcourse is much better than today period diue to insulina abuse now day

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: gh15 on January 29, 2012, 08:35:59 PM
just to clear somrthing,, when i say massive problem i dotn mean death or heart atack,, i mean high blood pressure,, i mean short temper,, i mean unable to concentrate,, etc,, oral toxicity is completely exagurated and overrated ,, completey ,, when i say side effect i mean the irritating ones that are dose dependent

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 29, 2012, 08:51:16 PM
just to clear somrthing,, when i say massive problem i dotn mean death or heart atack,, i mean high blood pressure,, i mean short temper,, i mean unable to concentrate,, etc,, oral toxicity is completely exagurated and overrated ,, completey ,, when i say side effect i mean the irritating ones that are dose dependent

gh15 approved

 gh15 have you seen or heard of people using more than 100 dianabol per day?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on January 29, 2012, 09:02:21 PM
These last coupe of pages ... some of the numbers being thown out for Anadrol and D-Bol usuage is just fucking insane. Jesus christ, guys ! Hahahahahaha ! But, when it came to the 'ol powerlifters, you better believe it ! Those fuckers did NOT play around. Still don't, really. See : Halotestin. ;-)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: gh15 on January 29, 2012, 09:08:23 PM
gh15 have you seen or heard of people using more than 100 dianabol per day?

yes ,, plenty ,, but as i said ,, when yo utake and compare both dianabol and anadrola,, if i need to be 100% truthful and not doing 90% as i used to do back in day ...since now i dont care anymore about 16 year old sinc ei put it as truth period ,, if they follow it its on them ,, i ust put out information and truth!

anadrola is by far by far! superior to dianabola,, it is a drug that iwll blow you up from inside get you fuller and thicker while condition will remain same ,, the little water that add will be off in time to go on stage ,,

anadrola 50-400 mg  plenty of competetive bodybuild


dianabola ...25-150mg plenty of competetive bodybuild...but dianabol make you pay heavy price in the bloofiness water department

gh15 approveed


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 29, 2012, 09:11:27 PM
gh15,I took 50 mgs. of real doctor prescribed anadrol in 2001 for some contests.......I looked more cut and defined than ever before.............of course,all I used otherwise was some Sustanon,but I was ripped as shit.

Not big,as I`m a small guy anyway,but I had tons of people thinking I was 15-20 pounds heavier than I actually was.

That shit works.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on January 29, 2012, 09:15:34 PM
gh15,I took 50 mgs. of real doctor prescribed anadrol in 2001 for some contests.......I looked more cut and defined than ever before.............of course,all I used otherwise was some Sustanon,but I was ripped as shit.

Not big,as I`m a small guy anyway,but I had tons of people thinking I was 15-20 pounds heavier than I actually was.

That shit works.


I love Anadrol. Even more than I love Tren. Mainly because I don't lose my libido with Anadrol, but by week 3 by libido is shot to hell on Tren. :/ The look Anadrol gives me in reeeeaalllllll nice. Can't wait 'till spring ! :D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 29, 2012, 09:18:13 PM
i'm sure everyone here knows that the doctor prescribed dose of anadrol for a 70 lb. child with aplastic anemia is about 7 tablets - 350 mg per day.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: gh15 on January 29, 2012, 09:18:19 PM
gh15,I took 50 mgs. of real doctor prescribed anadrol in 2001 for some contests.......I looked more cut and defined than ever before.............of course,all I used otherwise was some Sustanon,but I was ripped as shit.

Not big,as I`m a small guy anyway,but I had tons of people thinking I was 15-20 pounds heavier than I actually was.

That shit works.

yes,, first side effect of legit anadrol is as follow

fuller!


second side effect of legit anadrol


thicker!


third side effect of legit anadrol

MORE SCULPTED


it is drug to PUT you in condition ,, unlike dianabola ...anadrola PUT you in condition ,,another balonie steroid boardings have fed the kido all the years is about anadrola adding fat lol fucking joke! anadrola and hgh create paul dillets lol

anadrola is a big secret oral that aded to hgh and trenbolona when the last 2 get you to be lean enough and then BOOM you are lean riped fuller  and large ,,then you put in diuretic and you are,,,,,,,

SHREDDED

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 29, 2012, 09:20:59 PM

I love Anadrol. Even more than I love Tren. Mainly because I don't lose my libido with Anadrol, but by week 3 by libido is shot to hell on Tren. :/ The look Anadrol gives me in reeeeaalllllll nice. Can't wait 'till spring ! :D
Tren fucked with my libido too.

I did two shows back to back,just using test and tren,ran out of test and money,so ran tren only for weeks and lost my sex drive big time..........took a while to get back to normal also.

But I looked good,so who cares!  ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: wes on January 29, 2012, 09:21:50 PM
yes,, first side effect of legit anadrol is as follow

fuller!


second side effect of legit anadrol


thicker!


third side effect of legit anadrol

MORE SCULPTED


it is drug to PUT you in condition ,, unlike dianabola ...anadrola PUT you in condition ,,another balonie steroid boardings have fed the kido all the years is about anadrola adding fat lol fucking joke! anadrola and hgh create paul dillets lol

anadrola is a big secret oral that aded to hgh and trenbolona when the last 2 get you to be lean enough and then BOOM you are lean riped fuller  and large ,,then you put in diuretic and you are,,,,,,,

SHREDDED

gh15 approved

Thanks man.......good stuff! 


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Wolfsanglerune on January 29, 2012, 09:25:44 PM
Thanks man.......good stuff! 
X2
in full agreement.ive used lots of orals.and anadrol as ive learned makes you solid with size.d bol just seems more water weight and side effects.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: flinstones1 on January 29, 2012, 10:44:15 PM
X2
in full agreement.ive used lots of orals.and anadrol as ive learned makes you solid with size.d bol just seems more water weight and side effects.

if I was on GH I would choose anadrol if I was not on GH I would use dianabol.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: flinstones1 on January 29, 2012, 10:51:30 PM
yes,, first side effect of legit anadrol is as follow

fuller!


second side effect of legit anadrol


thicker!


third side effect of legit anadrol

MORE SCULPTED


it is drug to PUT you in condition ,, unlike dianabola ...anadrola PUT you in condition ,,another balonie steroid boardings have fed the kido all the years is about anadrola adding fat lol fucking joke! anadrola and hgh create paul dillets lol

anadrola is a big secret oral that aded to hgh and trenbolona when the last 2 get you to be lean enough and then BOOM you are lean riped fuller  and large ,,then you put in diuretic and you are,,,,,,,

SHREDDED

gh15 approved


do pros come off GH in the offseason?  You know now that I think about it that may be true. Remember that post months back you explained to be about how Kevin knew how to cycle the Gh? I didn't know what you were saying but now that I think about it maybe they do,  I remember reading  kevin posted on an old ugl board that his offseason cycle was 500mg test 500mg deca and anadrol. This was around that time  when he would shrink up to around 215 or so...so is that why these guys are shrinking in the offseason and growing into shows now aday? lowering the GH and upping it contest time ???


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: gh15 on January 30, 2012, 05:44:16 AM
we go off gh before comeptition to clean out the water that can resemble fat to some but its not its water,, about 2-4 weeks off gh you can see how really ripped you are under the water,, since its all water and you lost majority of fat,, so no we are nto alwys on gh ....we take the gh out before competition in final stages...

then we put it back in and there is a shock rebound and boom with anadrola into new dimentions


dianabola is nto a drug we like to use now days ,, in the past yes but now days we count on the combos i talk about ,,

gh anadrola primobolana trenbolona and some testosterona timing it very accuratly together with masterona which is also timed very acuratly

equipona also timing but not used all time,,nanrdrolona again timed use nto all time

insulina we have to since you cant get top bodybuild heavy with out it

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: freakyou on January 30, 2012, 05:51:19 AM
gh15 i have a question regarding anadrola... like you said, usually you use anadrola to keep size, stay full and thick while getting lean but if you use too much you start holding water. i heard that arimisin is a more effective anti-estrogen to use to counter this water then arimidex. what is your take on this. one of the top trainers in the world right now said this so i wanted to know your intake on it.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: martellrui on January 30, 2012, 05:54:31 AM
we go off gh before comeptition to clean out the water that can resemble fat to some but its not its water,, about 2-4 weeks off gh you can see how really ripped you are under the water,, since its all water and you lost majority of fat,, so no we are nto alwys on gh ....we take the gh out before competition in final stages...

then we put it back in and there is a shock rebound and boom with anadrola into new dimentions


dianabola is nto a drug we like to use now days ,, in the past yes but now days we count on the combos i talk about ,,

gh anadrola primobolana trenbolona and some testosterona timing it very accuratly together with masterona which is also timed very acuratly

equipona also timing but not used all time,,nanrdrolona again timed use nto all time

insulina we have to since you cant get top bodybuild heavy with out it

gh15 approved

since primo it's a DHT derivate what's the optimal dosages?
Thanks


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: gh15 on January 30, 2012, 05:55:25 AM
gh15 i have a question regarding anadrola... like you said, usually you use anadrola to keep size, stay full and thick while getting lean but if you use too much you start holding water. i heard that arimisin is a more effective anti-estrogen to use to counter this water then arimidex. what is your take on this. one of the top trainers in the world right now said this so i wanted to know your intake on it.

both good,, but i dont like either lol

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: gh15 on January 30, 2012, 05:58:06 AM
since primo it's a DHT derivate what's the optimal dosages?
Thanks

top chef make legit primo,, if you have top cherf legit primo! and the price wotn be 40 dolaros for 10 cc lol  if you got top chef legit primobolana then 600 mg a week wil do for advance bodybuild,,  if you got balonie then 1000-1200 or you may never see a damn thing even if inject 3 gram of it lol

the problem is the chefs and the raws,, many just dont know theri art ,, if you use legit primobolana from top chef you will knwo it lol ,, ask bigher lol

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: freakyou on January 30, 2012, 05:59:45 AM
gh15 lol and why dont you like either, i want your honest intake on these anti-estrogens. many say use this, use that, but nobody really seems to know what the difference between them are


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: martellrui on January 30, 2012, 06:01:11 AM
many thanks!


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: gh15 on January 30, 2012, 06:06:27 AM
gh15 lol and why dont you like either, i want your honest intake on these anti-estrogens. many say use this, use that, but nobody really seems to know what the difference between them are

aromasin will take estrogen down to about 20% 20-30% ,, arimi will take it down to 5% or so  ,, letro wil put it at 2% or so  ,, i dont believe in fucking estrogen to this degree ,, even aromasin just fuck up your estrogen ,, i like estrogen ,, i like it stricted but i dont like no estrogen in the 5% lol  so if i had to chose it would be aromasin ,, then again go find legit....better buy pharma grade or! get from top chef ,, and top chef again you can count them on 2 hands

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 30, 2012, 06:09:20 AM
gh15 lol and why dont you like either, i want your honest intake on these anti-estrogens. many say use this, use that, but nobody really seems to know what the difference between them are
your body needs estrogen...
if you have water retention.... go on masterone... can't get masterone use proviron... proviron= poor mans masterone...
anti e's and ai... exclusively pre contest!!!!!! only then for short period....


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Treninghard on January 30, 2012, 07:15:13 AM
Tren fucked with my libido too.

I did two shows back to back,just using test and tren,ran out of test and money,so ran tren only for weeks and lost my sex drive big time..........took a while to get back to normal also.

But I looked good,so who cares!  ;D

why not using caber ?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: csnut18 on January 30, 2012, 04:01:55 PM
top chef make legit primo,, if you have top cherf legit primo! and the price wotn be 40 dolaros for 10 cc lol  if you got top chef legit primobolana then 600 mg a week wil do for advance bodybuild,,  if you got balonie then 1000-1200 or you may never see a damn thing even if inject 3 gram of it lol

the problem is the chefs and the raws,, many just dont know theri art ,, if you use legit primobolana from top chef you will knwo it lol ,, ask bigher lol

gh15 approved

And who would you personally trust for this compound? Which Chef? Stranger, Pee pee? anyone else? Thanks GH15, in advance.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Figo on January 31, 2012, 01:37:13 AM
gh15 have you seen or heard of people using more than 100 dianabol per day?

100mg or 100 tabs ?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Treninghard on January 31, 2012, 02:32:52 AM
100mg or 100 tabs ?

what makes more sense to you?


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: aesthetics on January 31, 2012, 03:12:34 AM
i don't know, i've heard like... stories, man.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Figo on January 31, 2012, 03:41:02 AM
what makes more sense to you?
what's sense got to do with it


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 31, 2012, 03:56:56 AM
100mg or 100 tabs ?

in his book from the 70's, Robert Kerr said it was a standard dose to do a full bottle of dianabol every day. and i knew many wrestlers that actually did this. no bodybuilders i knew would admit to it tho.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OTHstrong on January 31, 2012, 04:35:06 AM
100mg or 100 tabs ?
he said and he meant tabs,


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Figo on January 31, 2012, 04:43:46 AM
in his book from the 70's, Robert Kerr said it was a standard dose to do a full bottle of dianabol every day. and i knew many wrestlers that actually did this. no bodybuilders i knew would admit to it tho.
that's what I thought you meant

Some think 100mg is a lot, but as you know, its nothing compared to what is reputed to have been taken by others

100 tabs is crazy, but falls in line with what grymko or ortiz were said to do

I would also venture that larry scott did more than 15mg a day, maybe ten times that, same for mr 5mg bill pearl. And reg park...etc


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: DK II on January 31, 2012, 04:57:51 AM
Well, just considering the fact that they absolutely didn't know of any bad side effects besides the obviously visible back then, it is not hard to imagine they would do a bottle of dbol per day.

Arnold was said to down handful of dbol a few times a day.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 31, 2012, 05:06:45 AM
Well, just considering the fact that they absolutely didn't know of any bad side effects besides the obviously visible back then, it is not hard to imagine they would do a bottle of dbol per day.

Arnold was said to down handful of dbol a few times a day.

What are these side effects you speak of? you mean muscle growth right ??? steroids are perfectly natural in the body like tumors and sweat


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: DK II on January 31, 2012, 05:14:30 AM
What are these side effects you speak of? you mean muscle growth right ??? steroids are perfectly natural in the body like tumors and sweat

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's unbelivable how the media led you to believe 12 weeks on 250mg of test per week will kill you, or 30mg dbol for 6 weeks will destroy your liver.  ::) ::) ::)

Back to the old GDR studies, these guys where taking tbol for YEARS without any adverse effect besides muscle growth and increased libido.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 31, 2012, 05:25:22 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D

It's unbelivable how the media led you to believe 12 weeks on 250mg of test per week will kill you, or 30mg dbol for 6 weeks will destroy your liver.  ::) ::) ::)

Back to the old GDR studies, these guys where taking tbol for YEARS without any adverse effect besides muscle growth and increased libido.

The GDR had the right attitude, take as much as you need to smash the americanos at sport so that they cry about it 40 years later ::)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: DK II on January 31, 2012, 05:26:57 AM
The GDR had the right attitude, take as much as you need to smash the americanos at sport so that they cry about it 40 years later ::)

LMAO!!!!

It worked.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 31, 2012, 05:29:03 AM
LMAO!!!!

It worked.

Its still working ;D


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: DK II on January 31, 2012, 05:36:21 AM
Its still working ;D

Well not for the GDR.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

There's a big "doping" scandal going on right now in Germany, btw. Germans are freaking out because they are all supposed to be clean.  ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 31, 2012, 08:41:06 AM
I love in that docu someone posted here the other day re the East German doping scandal, at the end they had the American swimmer meet the East German swimmer, 30+ years after the fact, and the American of course claims she was clean and the East German basically calls bullshit right to her face. ("Well, we don't know what anyone was doing..." kind of response) Definitely a getbigger.


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: hazbin on January 31, 2012, 09:58:28 AM
I love in that docu someone posted here the other day re the East German doping scandal, at the end they had the American swimmer meet the East German swimmer, 30+ years after the fact, and the American of course claims she was clean and the East German basically calls bullshit right to her face. ("Well, we don't know what anyone was doing..." kind of response) Definitely a getbigger.

they asked the east german coach why all his women athletes had such deep voices. he said ' vee are here to svim, not to sing'


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 31, 2012, 04:33:34 PM
they asked the east german coach why all his women athletes had such deep voices. he said ' vee are here to svim, not to sing'
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lolol! classic!


Title: Re: Pete Grymkowski "I took 10 000 mgs per day back in the 70's"
Post by: DK II on February 01, 2012, 06:02:58 AM
they asked the east german coach why all his women athletes had such deep voices. he said ' vee are here to svim, not to sing'

LMFAO!!!!!