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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: tbombz on February 09, 2012, 10:24:18 AM
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me and the gf are moving to monterey for school lin june. weve been checking out places. we found this one and love it. but the renter wants us to pay for the next 4 months in order to hold it for us. were on a budget but could probably afford to swing that. wondering what you guys think. worth it?? theres plenty of places available but none with a view like this for the price. 1450 per month.
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Looks better than my hole.
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me and the gf are moving to monterey for school lin june. weve been checking out places. we found this one and love it. but the renter wants us to pay for the next 4 months in order to hold it for us. were on a budget but could probably afford to swing that. wondering what you guys think. worth it?? theres plenty of places available but none with a view like this for the price. 1450 per month.
How can you afford it? I thought you didn't have a job?
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me and the gf are moving to monterey for school lin june. weve been checking out places. we found this one and love it. but the renter wants us to pay for the next 4 months in order to hold it for us. were on a budget but could probably afford to swing that. wondering what you guys think. worth it?? theres plenty of places available but none with a view like this for the price. 1450 per month.
So, you come to place full of strangers for advice?
Don't you have parents or something?
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....I mean- you do realize that this is a weight lifting message board, right?
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me and the gf are moving to monterey for school lin june. weve been checking out places. we found this one and love it. but the renter wants us to pay for the next 4 months in order to hold it for us. were on a budget but could probably afford to swing that. wondering what you guys think. worth it?? theres plenty of places available but none with a view like this for the price. 1450 per month.
Looks good man :)
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How can you afford it? I thought you didn't have a job?
the good old way ;)
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four months? this is a lot.
in nyc it is first last + security + agents fee, most of the time in fact there is no fee and often it is only security + first month
a lot of this depends on ur credit
make sure this is actually the renter and u r not getting scammed
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"I'm about to invest in a ROTH IRA account- I wonder what kyomu would do?"
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why pay 1450 dollaros a month for rent ???
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Is it 1 bedroom or 2? Do you need the fireplace, that is a luxury, find one w/o it.
Also, do you plan to have Internet/cable? Any hidden fees (trash pickup, recycling)?
And are you splitting the bills or will she pay the majority of it.
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1450 a month. Are you fucking kidding me. How are you going to afford that ???
That's a luxury appartment like Paker said. Save some money and find a cheaper place. You don't need all that for a couple of college kids.
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1450 is a bit expensive, no? ???
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1450 a month. Are you fucking kidding me. How are you going to afford that ???
exactly. You figure him and his girl split it $700 each, on top of food that's gonna cost $400 a month. Tbombz u work construction so I reckon you make 12 bucks an hour give or take? how are you going to afford your gear ?
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exactly. You figure him and his girl split it $700 each, on top of food that's gonna cost $400 a month. Tbombz u work construction so I reckon you make 12 bucks an hour give or take? how are you going to afford your gear ?
His parents prob pay for the appartment. Bumz doesn't work.
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me and the gf are moving to monterey for school lin june. weve been checking out places. we found this one and love it. but the renter wants us to pay for the next 4 months in order to hold it for us. were on a budget but could probably afford to swing that. wondering what you guys think. worth it?? theres plenty of places available but none with a view like this for the price. 1450 per month.
As in Monterey CA? Cool aquarium down there. Part of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home was filmed there. :)
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Also look at Aptratings.com or something like that. It will give ratings of the apt (sometimes you can't always go by that, as only the complainers rate)
also, has anybody noticed that "tan" carpeting is the default carpeting of almost any apt?
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When i was in the US i was amazed at how cheap rent where specially considering how huge most houses are.
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I've lived all over the country. $1450 a month is retardedly high rent. You can find very nice places to rent for much cheaper.
Sounds like you never lived in Cali, Seattle, NY or Miami.
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In California rent is expensive anywhere, especially along the coast
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I agree that you could find a cheaper and just as nice place, and there's NO WAY I'd pay to keep an empty place off the market. Eff that.
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why pay 1450 dollaros a month for rent ???
Cause most don't have down payment money to purchase homes. Took me and the wife a couple years to save a down payment for our home.
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As in Monterey CA? Cool aquarium down there. Part of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home was filmed there. :)
Boy, let me find out that you're a trekky...hmmm
I used to love the Next Generation during my college years, but then fell in love with Voyager..
Chakotay could be my Number "1" (in Jean-Luc Picard accent) any day..
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_onkSxU-LWDc/S7QUWu5nTQI/AAAAAAAAAac/pOKNnfXIfTc/s1600/chakotay_tux.jpg)
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Cause most don't have down payment money to purchase homes. Took me and the wife a couple years to save a down payment for our home.
Yea, that I understand but paying 1450 a month for rent ain't helpin' in saving that 'down payment'....
Rational human being would live modestly for the time it takes to collect that nest egg and then buy a house. Just my opinion - in the end it comes down to personal preferences of course.
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MIIS? MLS?
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What special school is in Monterey that you can't find elsewhere?
You'd be better off living in Salinas and driving a little each day.
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What special school is in Monterey that you can't find elsewhere?
You'd be better off living in Salinas and driving a little each day.
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See above
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1. NOT a good idea moving in with the GF
having said that, 1450 isnt a whole lot in monterey. Very stuffy crowd there though. tourist and rich people. I dont think youll fit in with either crowd. EVERYTHING else there (food, gas, gym) is expensive too.
I assume youre going to cal st monterey (b/c its the only school i know of there) which is a nice place.
i say fuck it, youre only young once, do it.
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Yea, that I understand but paying 1450 a month for rent ain't helpin' in saving that 'down payment'....
Rational human being would live modestly for the time it takes to collect that nest egg and then buy a house. Just my opinion - in the end it comes down to personal preferences of course.
Well, yes, that's definitely another piece of the pie. I see so many kids with nothing trying to move out their folks house into flashy apartments into flashy areas of town wanting to drive expensive cars and can't afford gas let alone the apartment rent or car payment. My wife and I lived in a number of rundown turds and drove a few beaters while working in low paying jobs slowly climbing our way up......took many years to climb.
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I have nothing of value to add, but I want to take this opportunity to let everyone know that I hate Monterey and I will explain why...
Back in the summer of 2008, I was partying in Cancun and met this sexy mexican girl with a big ass and nice body at a club named Bulldog (those who have been to Cancun may be familiar with it). Anyways, we were making out all night, and some girl I had sex with each of the past two nights was really pissed that I was making out with another girl in front of her. Unfortunately, I couldn't seal the deal because she had to go back to her hotel with her friends and she wouldn't come to mine. At least that is what it seemed like because we had an impossible time communicating since her English was so bad. We actually spoke more in Spanish (mine is decent). Nevertheless, it was a cool experience getting hot and heavy with an authentic Mexican girl. Anyways, it was dark and I was really drunk.
Two days later I am at the airport with my friends. As we are waiting at the gate, here comes some girl out of nowhere who can't speak English smile at me and give me a hug. She had 2 missing teeth and her face looked terrible. Then I realized it was the same girl. My friends, as well as the girl I banged the two previous nights were there to witness this. They couldn't stop laughing uncontrollably. And so my great memory turned into an awful embarrassing one and I get reminded about it to this day.
Anyways, thanks for letting me tell you my story getbig
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I have nothing of value to add, but I want to take this opportunity to let everyone know that I hate Monterey and I will explain why...
Back in the summer of 2008, I was partying in Cancun and met this sexy mexican girl with a big ass and nice body at a club named Bulldog (those who have been to Cancun may be familiar with it). Anyways, we were making out all night, and some girl I had sex with each of the past two nights was really pissed that I was making out with another girl in front of her. Unfortunately, I couldn't seal the deal because she had to go back to her hotel with her friends and she wouldn't come to mine. At least that is what it seemed like because we had an impossible time communicating since her English was so bad. We actually spoke more in Spanish (mine is decent). Nevertheless, it was a cool experience getting hot and heavy with an authentic Mexican girl. Anyways, it was dark and I was really drunk.
Two days later I am at the airport with my friends. As we are waiting at the gate, here comes some girl out of nowhere who can't speak English smile at me and give me a hug. She had 2 missing teeth and her face looked terrible. Then I realized it was the same girl. My friends, as well as the girl I banged the two previous nights were there to witness this. They couldn't stop laughing uncontrollably. And so my great memory turned into an awful embarrassing one and I get reminded about it to this day.
Anyways, thanks for letting me tell you my story getbig
Haha great story!
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I have nothing of value to add, but I want to take this opportunity to let everyone know that I hate Monterey and I will explain why...
Back in the summer of 2008, I was partying in Cancun and met this sexy mexican girl with a big ass and nice body at a club named Bulldog (those who have been to Cancun may be familiar with it). Anyways, we were making out all night, and some girl I had sex with each of the past two nights was really pissed that I was making out with another girl in front of her. Unfortunately, I couldn't seal the deal because she had to go back to her hotel with her friends and she wouldn't come to mine. At least that is what it seemed like because we had an impossible time communicating since her English was so bad. We actually spoke more in Spanish (mine is decent). Nevertheless, it was a cool experience getting hot and heavy with an authentic Mexican girl. Anyways, it was dark and I was really drunk.
Two days later I am at the airport with my friends. As we are waiting at the gate, here comes some girl out of nowhere who can't speak English smile at me and give me a hug. She had 2 missing teeth and her face looked terrible. Then I realized it was the same girl. My friends, as well as the girl I banged the two previous nights were there to witness this. They couldn't stop laughing uncontrollably. And so my great memory turned into an awful embarrassing one and I get reminded about it to this day.
Anyways, thanks for letting me tell you my story getbig
She was probably from Monterrey Mexico.....fuckin' tramps. ;D
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me and the gf are moving to monterey for school lin june. weve been checking out places. we found this one and love it. but the renter wants us to pay for the next 4 months in order to hold it for us. were on a budget but could probably afford to swing that. wondering what you guys think. worth it?? theres plenty of places available but none with a view like this for the price. 1450 per month.
you're being hustled.
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Tbombz, find a apt for 980-1,000...it will probably be in a shitty, crime ridden place, but you have love to guide you. Save your money...
Or find a house in which the both of you can rent a room---make sure the other tenants are cleaned, well groomed and don't do rec drugs---as your shit will get stolen.
Also, make sure that this woman is a long-termer, you don't want to start living together, and y'all get into a fight and she rolls and you are stuck with the rent...
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You should move to a village in minnesotta. I remember it very well. Very cheap houses. Gorgeous. Peaceful. Lots of countryside and everyone is white 8)
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Tbombz, find a apt for 980-1,000...it will probably be in a shitty, crime ridden place, but you have love to guide you. Save your money...
Or find a house in which the both of you can rent a room---make sure the other tenants are cleaned, well groomed and don't do rec drugs---as your shit will get stolen.
Also, make sure that this woman is a long-termer, you don't want to start living together, and y'all get into a fight and she rolls and you are stuck with the rent...
Good advice make sure both names are on the lease. Our just let her sign it. Find a cheaper place. You won't even look at the view after a week.
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1450 a month. Are you fucking kidding me. How are you going to afford that ???
That's a luxury appartment like Paker said. Save some money and find a cheaper place. You don't need all that for a couple of college kids.
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Bad move.
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You should move to a village in minnesotta. I remember it very well. Very cheap houses. Gorgeous. Peaceful. Lots of countryside and everyone is white 8)
WTF is this!
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WTF is this!
Roseau, Minnessota ;)
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How can you afford it? I thought you didn't have a job?
student loans , plus going to work part time while there
Is it 1 bedroom or 2? Do you need the fireplace, that is a luxury, find one w/o it.
Also, do you plan to have Internet/cable? Any hidden fees (trash pickup, recycling)?
And are you splitting the bills or will she pay the majority of it.
its 2 bdrm. we looked up the cost of an internet/cable bundle and its gonna be 60. were splittin the bills.
As in Monterey CA? Cool aquarium down there. Part of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home was filmed there. :)
yup. great city. so excited.
I've lived all over the country. $1450 a month is retardedly high rent. You can find very nice places to rent for much cheaper.
but with that kind of view !!!!!!!!!
I agree that you could find a cheaper and just as nice place, and there's NO WAY I'd pay to keep an empty place off the market. Eff that.
thats what im thinking. but weve been looking for months now and this is by far the best weve came across. the view is unbelievable for that price.
MIIS? MLS?
gf is doing grad school at MIIS !!
Tbombz, find a apt for 980-1,000...it will probably be in a shitty, crime ridden place, but you have love to guide you. Save your money...
Or find a house in which the both of you can rent a room---make sure the other tenants are cleaned, well groomed and don't do rec drugs---as your shit will get stolen.
Also, make sure that this woman is a long-termer, you don't want to start living together, and y'all get into a fight and she rolls and you are stuck with the rent...
i dont wanna live in a shity place, im used to being spoiled ! lol. i wanna view man. living in monterey, i wanna feel like im in monterey. if we split, shes keeping the place and stuck with the rent. already discussed.
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me and the gf are moving to monterey for school lin june. weve been checking out places. we found this one and love it. but the renter wants us to pay for the next 4 months in order to hold it for us. were on a budget but could probably afford to swing that. wondering what you guys think. worth it?? theres plenty of places available but none with a view like this for the price. 1450 per month.
thats an absolutely terrible deal.
thats too high of rent for someone without a job.
first find a job out there, everything in monterey is expensive.
and NEVER pay 4 months rent just to reserve a place. The only thing thats exceptable is first/last months rent and a security deposit.
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"gf is doing grad school at MIIS !!"
Funny, my ex got her MBA there.
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thats an absolutely terrible deal.
thats too high of rent for someone without a job.
first find a job out there, everything in monterey is expensive.
and NEVER pay 4 months rent just to reserve a place. The only thing thats exceptable is first/last months rent and a security deposit.
Yes another good point. Why the hell would you have to pay 4 months in advance. Fuck that!
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its 2 bdrm. we looked up the cost of an internet/cable bundle and its gonna be 60. were splittin the bills.
Weren't you single as of almost a month ago? Now you are splitting a $1400 apartment with a girlfriend that new?
I would try to see if they will accept a 6 month lease or something along those lines that way if things go bad you don't get too far in debt. Spending a school loan to help you get a nicer place is obviously a very poor financial decision. It will be a bitch if things don't work out between the two of you and things go sour but I hope the best for you.
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Rent is a lot cheaper in Ballwin,Missouri.
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Weren't you single as of almost a month ago? Now you are splitting a $1400 apartment with a girlfriend that new?
I would try to see if they will accept a 6 month lease or something along those lines that way if things go bad you don't get too far in debt. Spending a school loan to help you get a nicer place is obviously a very poor financial decision. It will be a bitch if things don't work out between the two of you and things go sour but I hope the best for you.
He's using part of the loans to stock up on gear and growth hormone to don't forget ::) Tbomz you're an absolute idiot bro. I'm not trying to sound like a dick but you're making all the wrong decisions. Get your fucken head on straight man. Why would you waste that kind of money on an apartment with some girl you just recently met. You make really bad decisions in life.
1. Get a cheaper place! Find some good people to move in with rent will be cheaper. Let the girl live at home she can come visit when she wants. You want your space especially if you're going to college. You want to be stuck living with a bitch during college?
2. Get a job!
3. Start thinking about your future instead how many drugs you can buy with the money you have
You can still juice and have fun but damn why would even think about using your student loans for gear. You just set yourself up for failure and depression.
I'm not trying to be a dick it's just how I see it.
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Tbombz, the view wears off, not unless you have a freaking millin dollar condo, does one really truly enjoy and reap the benefits of a good view (that's if the condo looks onto a exclusive strip club or nude beach)
you start off small, if you can't afford it. You have to make sacrifices...like, no cable for instance. Cutting out things you don't need, wants are diff than needs. And many get their wants mixed up with their needs. You don't need a view or a lux apt. If your girl is going to grad school, the there are certain needs that she has....how quietvis the place, etc. Then, will your drug usage hinder her, will there be traffic in and out of the palce? Are both of you slobs, or is one of you? Cooking---your food bill...all of that needs to be taken into account.
Plus, a job...is she working? Are you? Wanting to live in a lux place when one person is workig or one is in grad school is not financially sound decision making.
Plus, look for 1st time deals, usually around Sept apt complexes have deals, like
1100 for the same apt, and so on.
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Rent is a lot cheaper in Ballwin,Missouri.
"Powerlifter Peter", ever since I have followed your posts on getbig you have been one of the more astute and observant members here. Your constructive advices on a wide range of topics have helped me tremendously through many facets of my own life.
This acknowledgement that rent is cheaper in Ballwin, Missouri should prove itself to be every bit as accurate as all your other posts have proven to be.
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I learned a good lesson the last place I lived. We paid a lot extra because we have this big porch overlooking a little pond. We thought that shit was so great and we would be out there all the time blah blah blah. We hung out there a handful of times. It's not worth the extra money. I spend all my time in front of the tv or in my room jacking off when I'm at home. Who cares about the view.
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I learned a good lesson the last place I lived. We paid a lot extra because we have this big porch overlooking a little pond. We thought that shit was so great and we would be out there all the time blah blah blah. We hung out there a handful of times. It's not worth the extra money. I spend all my time in front of the tv or in my room jacking off when I'm at home. Who cares about the view.
Meanwhile, if you were single you could live by yourself and be having 10 times as much fun getting blasted whenever you want and bringing home random skanks to fuck on a couch you found behind a dumpster in your 500 sq. foot apartment at a percentage of the cost.
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Also, how many cars are parked during the day? Look at that...if a lot, it means people don't have jobs...for any economic times...
I was helping my sis look for apts outside of DC, there was one near the metro, and this thing was 1,200 for something that look like a shack that Shrek would live in---1200 for shit, all because you were right near the metro---the trains would rock the place.
My sis ended up finding a place for 1700, yep 1700...she is no longer there, but just to be near the Metro due to her working in DC was the selling point.
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You guys are all making too much fucking sense!!
Stop it this instant, and just tell him to move into "the exhorbitantly overpriced apartment with a view"!
;D
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i pay $1,195 in burbank, Ca. a month for a 1 bedroom with my own laundry room and big enough to fit my 100" projector screen.
but still
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appreciate the advice, dont think were gonna pay to keep it off the market, thought maybe some of yall would see my point about how nice the view was and encourage me to spend the money ;D i really like that view !
as for makaveli and the like, yall need to calm the fuck down, first of all, i make perfectly fine decisions, imma have my bachelors in business management done within the year and my MBA done within two. i can take classes anywhere i move to, all done online through a prestigous university. secondly, stop taking life so fucking seriously. time is eternal, this life means jack shit, 200 years from now youll understand what im saying.
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i pay $1,195 in burbank, Ca. a month for a 1 bedroom with my own laundry room and big enough to fit my 100" projector screen.
but still
THATS SOME FUNNY SHIT RIGHT THERE ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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oh and its me and my gf's 5 month anniversary in a couple days.. "just met".. when you know how to communicate you can form a pretty strong bond in a few months.. but i can understand why the average dude would find a few months to be completely inadequate to make this kind of a decision.. cuz yall fuckers dont have the slightest clue how to be in a relationship with a woman ! ;D being bi has its advantages..
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1450 a month. Are you fucking kidding me. How are you going to afford that ???
That's a luxury appartment like Paker said. Save some money and find a cheaper place. You don't need all that for a couple of college kids.
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appreciate the advice, dont think were gonna pay to keep it off the market, thought maybe some of yall would see my point about how nice the view was and encourage me to spend the money ;D i really like that view !
as for makaveli and the like, yall need to calm the fuck down, first of all, i make perfectly fine decisions, imma have my bachelors in business management done within the year and my MBA done within two. i can take classes anywhere i move to, all done online through a prestigous university. secondly, stop taking life so fucking seriously. time is eternal, this life means jack shit, 200 years from now youll understand what im saying.
fuck the view man, how many times are you going to watch what's going on outside anyway ???
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as for makaveli and the like, yall need to calm the fuck down, first of all, i make perfectly fine decisions, imma have my bachelors in business management done within the year and my MBA done within two. i can take classes anywhere i move to, all done online through a prestigous university.
brutal relocation for next semester "at" university of phoenix
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being bi has its advantages..
You should try being fully GAY, the advantages are limitless..
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=344772.0;attach=456940;image)
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Taylor,I though you and your girl have been together for years............the black chick,did you guys break up or what ???
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Taylor,I though you and your girl have been together for years............the black chick,did you guys break up or what ???
This is another black chick. The Nigerian is out like Das Efx.
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my older bro had this sick ass apt in chicago last year paid about $2,800 a month high rise building over looking the chicago river and the navy pier ... moved out a year later, said view, security door guy, Elevators, gets annoying quick
3rd building on the left closest to river
(http://annrainephotography.com/wp-content/uploads/Chicago-River-Navy-Pier.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/Chicago_river.jpg)
they Dye the river green for st pattys day
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5T5u7Ke9Us8/TZ2IoCUOwnI/AAAAAAAAG4s/wZJJaLMEzjI/s1600/chicago_river_2008.jpg)
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This is another black chick. The Nigerian is out like Das Efx.
Straight out da` sewer!! ;D
I was out of the loop as my computer was done for quite a while a few months back.
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You should try being fully GAY, the advantages are limitless..
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=344772.0;attach=456940;image)
he is gay
Bisexuality is utter bullshit....it's just a way for gay people to keep one foot in the closet
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I can see what you're saying tbomz maybe I take things to seriously god I sound like my dad haha. Just make sure you get your damn education and you can do whatever the hell you want.
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I can see what you're saying tbomz maybe I take things to seriously god I sound like my dad haha. Just make sure you get your damn education and you can do whatever the hell you want.
Dude,you were just looking out for him and giving him good advice.
I`m sure he knows that.
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Dude,you were just looking out for him and giving him good advice.
I`m sure he knows that.
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I was looking out for his best interest you're right. I just couldn't sleep well at night knowing I'm blowing all the money. I'm just getting by right now though so I don't really know what it's like to spoil myself.
A friend of mine has been working for his dad now since highschool. Both major salesmen for this company that sells computers and tv monitors to hospitals. His dad has like 3 houses a dodge viper, bmw, multiple luxury suvs. I couldn't imagine making all of that money. My buddy makes over a 100 grand a year maybe even more. Has his own apartment in Boston. Pay 1200 a month by himself :o It's really not even that nice it just costs a lot to live in the city. Besides that he's very smart with his money! Doesn't have any bad habbits, same car for last ten years, very simple life. When he gets older he will be able to enjoy the finer things in life. Very smart dude. If I had that kind of money I would blow so much.
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LOL @ 'girlfriend' and 'school.'
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is this thread a joke or smthg.
student loans , plus going to work part time while there
As if anyone is going to allow two losers like tbum and his whore to rent such a place with such "references" in the firstplace.
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student loans , plus going to work part time while there
its 2 bdrm. we looked up the cost of an internet/cable bundle and its gonna be 60. were splittin the bills.
yup. great city. so excited.
but with that kind of view !!!!!!!!!
thats what im thinking. but weve been looking for months now and this is by far the best weve came across. the view is unbelievable for that price.
gf is doing grad school at MIIS !!
i dont wanna live in a shity place, im used to being spoiled ! lol. i wanna view ma
n. living in monterey, i wanna feel like im in monterey. if we split, shes keeping the place and stuck with the rent. already discussed.
I fucking knew it. We're paying for it. Freeloaders.!
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brutal relocation for next semester "at" university of phoenix
First thing I thought of. Poor bomz is gonna find out that that degree is not worth the paper it's printed on. Shrewd.
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not university of pheonix.. this university has every accreditation imagineable.. respected among business.. non profit.. you see its commercials on t.v. sometimes.. been featured in new york times, nightline, NPR... very good school..
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If a grad school needs to advertise on tv then it's probably not a credible school. How often do you see Harvard advertising on tv?
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education connection
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If a grad school needs to advertise on tv then it's probably not a credible school. How often do you see Harvard advertising on tv?
Exactly. Real Unis aren't Western Sky Financial. If you are an undergrad, and you're not putting your ass in a seat, you're getting taken for a ride. Sad. :-\
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http://www.npr.org/2012/01/03/144439890/online-school-helps-grown-ups-finish-college
http://schoolsofthought.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/07/students-go-at-own-pace-at-school-without-boundaries/
http://www.wgu.edu/about_WGU/la_times_article.pdf
keep believing you have to pay 30-50k for a bachelors and work at the speed your teachers and classmates dictate..
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Exactly. Real Unis aren't Western Sky Financial. If you are an undergrad, and you're not putting your ass in a seat, you're getting taken for a ride. Sad. :-\
for all the time you spent at university you sure are obtuse when it comes to any matter intellectual , as obvious by your attempts at partial participation in the threads on such subjects..
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Hey tbombz just a quick announcement on the 'massive' mass-less particle debate we've been having.
Just for shits and giggles, today I asked a professor of theoretical physics(that works at the LHC if that means anything to you) about this issue. I presented both sides of the argument we've been having and I also specifically asked him "Do photons have mass in ANY sense of the word, no matter the definition? He clearly said "NO". He also pointed out that the connection people sometimes make between relativistic mass and photons is incorrect.
Science doesn't rely upon authority, but sometimes it's probably best to just listen and accept certain facts.
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for all the time you spent at university you sure are obtuse when it comes to any matter intellectual , as obvious by your attempts at partial participation in the threads on such subjects..
How can anyone be so unintelligent that they can't perceive their own stupidity!? Must be one of God's mysteries. :-\
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Hey tbombz just a quick announcement on the 'massive' mass-less particle debate we've been having.
Just for shits and giggles, today I asked a professor of theoretical physics(that works at the LHC if that means anything to you) about this issue. I presented both sides of the argument we've been having and I also specifically asked him "Do photons have mass in ANY sense of the word, no matter the definition? He clearly said "NO". He also pointed out that the connection people sometimes make between relativistic mass and photons is incorrect.
Science doesn't rely upon authority, but sometimes it's probably best to just listen and accept certain facts.
i agree in principle, and i really do not blame you what so ever for just repeating what the experts say. in their own context, they are certainly correct. but as he said, the vast majority of people think of an entirely different context for the terms being used. which is quite misleading. i would love to have a debate with your professor. this fall i was on a couchsurfng camping trip to volunteer in yosemite national park and this french guy from the island of reunion who is an astrophysicist was there and we had a delightful conversation on such topics. there is an afgahn dude who is studying at the school my gf went to for her BS and we go to parties at her friends apartment all the time on campus and he is there, we always get into discussions about islam, u.s. middle eastern policy, etc. very enlightening to talk to people who have first hand experience, experts, on issues im interested in.
all that to say, i guess, that im really not close minded like you may think i am, there are just cerain ideas i am fond of and enjoy bringing up in discussion. i appreciate anyone who engages in discussions with me on these issues, no matter how disagreeable i may be, as most people hate talking about "taboo" subjects and are instantly turned off by the topic.
im glad i got you thinking enough about the issue to go to your professor about it ! :)
one thing you brought up the other day i didnt respond to, is that gravity doesnt act on photons. but do you remember how einstein proved his theory of relativity? it was by calculating the curvature of light as it passed the sun, because the suns massive gravitational force cause the beam of light to shift ! ;)
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How can anyone be so unintelligent that they can't perceive their own stupidity!? Must be one of God's mysteries. :-\
LOL please, someday, do engage in some discussion. i really hope you can put down your wall, whatever is causing it to be up; whether insecuirty, fear of failure, or just simply arrogance.. i know not.. but for all your faults i do sense some kind intellectualism there and thus would enjoy conversing about ANY subject that interests you.. :)
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one thing you brought up the other day i didnt respond to, is that gravity doesnt act on photons. but do you remember how einstein proved his theory of relativity? it was by calculating the curvature of light as it passed the sun, because the suns massive gravitational force cause the beam of light to shift ! ;)
no.
have a good day.
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i agree in principle, and i really do not blame you what so ever for just repeating what the experts say. in their own context, they are certainly correct. but as he said, the vast majority of people think of an entirely different context for the terms being used. which is quite misleading. i would love to have a debate with your professor. this fall i was on a couchsurfng camping trip to volunteer in yosemite national park and this french guy from the island of reunion who is an astrophysicist was there and we had a delightful conversation on such topics. there is an afgahn dude who is studying at the school my gf went to for her BS and we go to parties at her friends apartment all the time on campus and he is there, we always get into discussions about islam, u.s. middle eastern policy, etc. very enlightening to talk to people who have first hand experience, experts, on issues im interested in.
all that to say, i guess, that im really not close minded like you may think i am, there are just cerain ideas i am fond of and enjoy bringing up in discussion. i appreciate anyone who engages in discussions with me on these issues, no matter how disagreeable i may be, as most people hate talking about "taboo" subjects and are instantly turned off by the topic.
im glad i got you thinking enough about the issue to go to your professor about it ! :)
one thing you brought up the other day i didnt respond to, is that gravity doesnt act on photons. but do you remember how einstein proved his theory of relativity? it was by calculating the curvature of light as it passed the sun, because the suns massive gravitational force cause the beam of light to shift ! ;)
I absolutely did not say that. Quote me please.
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gravity does not act on photons >:(
see previous post for clarification
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I fucking knew it. We're paying for it. Freeloaders.!
That's your stance on student LOANS?!?!?!?!?!
HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO BE SO RETARDED? HOW? HOOOOOOOW????
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Hey tbombz just a quick announcement on the 'massive' mass-less particle debate we've been having.
Just for shits and giggles, today I asked a professor of theoretical physics(that works at the LHC if that means anything to you) about this issue. I presented both sides of the argument we've been having and I also specifically asked him "Do photons have mass in ANY sense of the word, no matter the definition? He clearly said "NO". He also pointed out that the connection people sometimes make between relativistic mass and photons is incorrect.
Science doesn't rely upon authority, but sometimes it's probably best to just listen and accept certain facts.
I absolutely did not say that. Quote me please.
lol...I see what you are doing here....brilliant
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:-X :-\
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That's your stance on student LOANS?!?!?!?!?!
HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO BE SO RETARDED? HOW? HOOOOOOOW????
Ron Paul wants to abolish the department of education altogether
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LOL please, someday, do engage in some discussion. i really hope you can put down your wall, whatever is causing it to be up; whether insecuirty, fear of failure, or just simply arrogance.. i know not.. but for all your faults i do sense some kind intellectualism there and thus would enjoy conversing about ANY subject that interests you.. :)
Intelligence: 1%
Condescension: 79.10%
Delusion: 19%
Proprietary insane bomz mix: .9%
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gravity does not act on photons >:(
see previous post for clarification
The warping of space-time does affect photons. Or are you referring to something else here?
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Ron Paul wants to abolish the department of education altogether
Yeah he wants to transition student loans away from federal government and back to local governments and private banks/marke solutions, what a nutcase ::).
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lol...I see what you are doing here....brilliant
Go choke on a dildo, please.
"This thread will be 10 pages before blablabla"
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That's your stance on student LOANS?!?!?!?!?!
HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO BE SO RETARDED? HOW? HOOOOOOOW????
No stupid, thats not what I was getting at. What I'm getting at unless his parents are helping him in some way she shouldn't be using the loan as a WANT but rather a NEED. I see too many students using they're student loan money on things OTHER than school. He said himself he's spoiled so thats what he WANTS but in reality he doesn't NEED something that expensive.....get it?? When comes up short for school he's going to be fucked.
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not university of pheonix.. this university has every accreditation imagineable.. respected among business.. non profit.. you see its commercials on t.v. sometimes.. been featured in new york times, nightline, NPR... very good school..
btw, i don't think any of you realize how insanely hilarious this is
seriously, read it again and it will put anything Damon Wayans did during his In Living Colour years to shame
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2012 is here folks
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Go choke on a dildo, please.
"This thread will be 10 pages before blablabla"
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the fact that you repeat and acknowledge that meme means that i've accomplished what i wanted
for such a smart man you should know better than to feed a obvious troll............idiot
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No stupid, thats not what I was getting at. What I'm getting at unless his parents are helping him in some way she shouldn't be using the loan as a WANT but rather a NEED. I see too many students using they're student loan money on things OTHER than school. He said himself he's spoiled so thats what he WANTS but in reality he doesn't NEED something that expensive.....get it?? When comes up short for school he's going to be fucked.
You calling me stupid, thats rich. He can use his student loan however the fuck he chooses, its his loan, its his responsibility.
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btw, lovemonkey- I also have a friend called the "wallet inspector" that would love to meet you
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Tombz living large on student loans...
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btw, this thread doesn't fall under that "10 page meme".....it has nothing to do with god, Diet soda, or christopher hitchens being "brave"
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Rent the cheapest apartment you can tolerate. At the end of three years, the extra 10 grand you saved on rent in your pocket make you much happier than any memories of a great view.
Never put yourself in a situation where you could be potentially be over your head, or hurt your credit if you get stuck.
And, remember, the buyer/renter has the leverage in this market. If you feel an offer like the one you started may be too much, it probably is.
Good luck Taylor.
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The warping of space-time do affect photons. Or are you referring to something else here?
Right, an indirect effect. It's not as if gravity is pulling on the photon, as it pulls on the planets in the solar system.
Warping of space time and gravitational force are two different things (as you know already).
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You calling me stupid, thats rich. He can use his student loan however the fuck he chooses, its his loan, its his responsibility.
I get that. You're missing the point all together.
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Oh and Coach, don't try to wiggle your way out of that one, you said "I KNEW IT, WE ARE PAYING FOR IT"
Holy shit
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btw, this thread doesn't fall under that "10 page meme".....it has nothing to do with god, Diet soda, or christopher hitchens being "brave"
Christopher Hitchens was a brave atheist that detested God and religion in all it forms and he most likely did not drink Diet soda. There.
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Oh and Coach, don't try to wiggle your way out of that one, you said "I KNEW IT, WE ARE PAYING FOR IT"
Holy shit
Oh chill out will ya. So it's cool for bumz to spend a couple grand on aas and gh ::)
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Oh and Coach, don't try to wiggle your way out of that one, you said "I KNEW IT, WE ARE PAYING FOR IT"
Holy shit
Nothing to wiggle out of. Unless his loan is privately funded I could careless.
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Christopher Hitchens was a brave atheist that detested God and religion in all it forms and he most likely did not drink Diet soda. There.
not buying it/now you're being silly
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Oh chill out will ya. So it's cool for bumz to spend a couple grand on aas and gh ::)
Yes it is.
Nothing to wiggle out of. Unless his loan is privately funded I could careless.
Have you ever had a loan Coach? To start your business maybe? For something else?
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not university of pheonix.. this university has every accreditation imagineable.. respected among business.. non profit.. you see its commercials on t.v. sometimes.. been featured in new york times, nightline, NPR... very good school..
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(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg)
I swear... what a headcase.
As usual it's going to go burst anyway, just like everything tbum talks to us about. Just like spermastase etc. Pathological immature liars. Living in their dreams, pretending to be someone they arent on the internet randomly once every month...Delusional and lost.
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. Unless his loan is privately funded I could careless.
if you could care less than you would care less
let's get it right people
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No stupid, thats not what I was getting at. What I'm getting at unless his parents are helping him in some way she shouldn't be using the loan as a WANT but rather a NEED. I see too many students using they're student loan money on things OTHER than school. He said himself he's spoiled so thats what he WANTS but in reality he doesn't NEED something that expensive.....get it?? When comes up short for school he's going to be fucked.
he s not even going to understand what they ll be talking about at this shit school. Moron just got sent there by his parents who dont know what to do of his sorry ass and pay for everything, as long as he finally fucking go away from them. Dude is immature, ignorant, nobody knows what to do with him, not even himself. He's too fucking dumb to ever get any kind of degree. Apply for some shitty manual job once and for all and stick to it already, know your place tbum. Dont let your parents waste more of their money on your new delusional "plan". Without those poor black girls who want to go white at all costs to purify their genes and chose you to do so -rofl...- you d be nothing in this world.
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If you rent that place but fail to upgrade your underwear, I'll be at a lost for words.
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I won't read the whole thread but let me guess, tbombz is using his student loans for unnecesary/stupid things? Dude, you already have a lot of problems, you will be fucked after a couple of years if you act like a retard. No hating, just saying it as it is.
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Yes it is.
Have you ever had a loan Coach? To start your business maybe? For something else?
LOL....I have a $1.4mil loan on my house and had loans on cars in the past. I started my business by handing out business cards so no loan was ever needed. I don't believe in being in debt and believe if you don't have the money to pay something in cash you can't afford it. Student loans, home loans and expanding a business is an exception as long it could be paid back. Look up the stats on student loan defaults (I also know they never go away unless you die).
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I won't read the whole thread but let me guess, tbombz is using his student loans for unnecesary/stupid things? Dude, you already have a lot of problems, you will be fucked after a couple of years if you act like a retard. No hating, just saying it as it is.
Evidently he is taking out a loan to pay for apartment rent.
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LOL....I have a $1.4mil loan on my house and had loans on cars in the past. I started my business by handing out business cards so no loan was ever needed. I don't believe in being in debt and believe if you don't have the money to pay something in cash you can't afford it. Student loans, home loans and expanding a business is an exception as long it could be paid back. Look up the stats on student loan defaults (I also know they never go away unless you die).
Brag much?
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LOL....I have a $1.4mil loan on my house and had loans on cars in the past. I started my business by handing out business cards so no loan was ever needed. I don't believe in being in debt and believe if you don't have the money to pay something in cash you can't afford it. Student loans, home loans and expanding a business is an exception as long it could be paid back. Look up the stats on student loan defaults (I also know they never go away unless you die).
And who pays for your loan? You, am I right?
(PS: http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/default-student-loan-29859.html ::))
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Right, an indirect effect. It's not as if gravity is pulling on the photon, as it pulls on the planets in the solar system.
Warping of space time and gravitational force are two different things (as you know already).
i was failry certain that the warping of space time and light that passes through it was due to the gravitational effects of large bodies of mass. untill you said this. looked into, seems like i was correct. mind expanding on your position or providing some sources that do?
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first u say u have a 1.4 million dollar loan then you say u dont believe in debt and pay for everything with cash... such typical coach blah blah ballonie, gotta love him
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yes, tbombz is a fool trying to live the MTV lifestyle
a single room is more than adequate and for more realistic
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And who pays for your loan? You, am I right?
(PS: http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/default-student-loan-29859.html ::))
Yes, I do. But right now there is a push to forgive student loans simply because they cannot be paid back, that leave us on the hook. Those loans eventually get paid back....by us. Do you feel thats right? Tbombs is obviously in a situation where his eye's are bigger than his head. He's getting into something he cannot afford and pretty soon something has to give....the student loan.
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Nothing to wiggle out of. Unless his loan is privately funded I could careless.
Do you mean 'could not care less' and 'publicly!?' Coach? Has your account been hacked? ;D
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perhaps Coach and tbombz are related?
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Yes, I do. But right now there is a push to forgive student loans simply because they cannot be paid back, that leave us on the hook. Those loans eventually get paid back....by us. Do you feel thats right? Tbombs is obviously in a situation where his eye's are bigger than his head. He's getting into something he cannot afford and pretty soon something has to give....the student loan.
Oh brother, "there's a push" huh? A few petitions and some Occupy WS folk? Let me know when that happens :D
Do you mean 'could not care less' and 'publicly!?' Coach? Has your account been hacked? ;D
:D
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I absolutely did not say that. Quote me please.
i was failry you certain you had said that. the other night when laying in bed it occured to me that such an objection was inconsistant with what i knew about the effects of gravity on light..
i was failry certain that the warping of space time and light that passes through it was due to the gravitational effects of large bodies of mass. untill you said this. looked into, seems like i was correct. mind expanding on your position or providing some sources that do?
^^^ looked into it some more... seems that gravity and the warping of space time are essentially two terms for the same exact thing..
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Yes, I do. But right now there is a push to forgive student loans simply because they cannot be paid back, that leave us on the hook. Those loans eventually get paid back....by us. Do you feel thats right? Tbombs is obviously in a situation where his eye's are bigger than his head. He's getting into something he cannot afford and pretty soon something has to give....the student loan.
nah the push to forgive student loans is economic common sense. educated individuals are much more productive and over the course of their life contribute much more tax revenue than uneducated individuals. free education makes fiscal sense. my student loan is extremely small, tuition is a flat rate of 3k per 6 month term and since they allow me to work at my own pace and i transfered with about 70 credits ill be done with my bachelors in 1 or 2 terms. grad school costs 4k per 6 month term and thatll take 2 terms. total cost of tuition only about 15k for a bachelors and masters.. and with an MBA ill be making good money.
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i was failry certain that the warping of space time and light that passes through it was due to the gravitational effects of large bodies of mass. untill you said this. looked into, seems like i was correct. mind expanding on your position or providing some sources that do?
Yes, but there is no gravitational force acting on the photon. It would have to have to have mass for that to happen.
Put simply: gravity warps space, and light passes through warped space. Not: huge gravity, so light bends toward it.
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nah the push to forgive student loans is economic common sense. educated individuals are much more productive and over the course of their life contribute much more tax revenue than uneducated individuals. free education makes fiscal sense. my student loan is extremely small, tuition is a flat rate of 3k per 6 month term and since they allow me to work at my own pace and i transfered with about 70 credits ill be done with my bachelors in 1 or 2 terms. grad school costs 4k per 6 month term and thatll take 2 terms. total cost of tuition only about 15k for a bachelors and masters.. and with an MBA ill be making good money.
Masters in what? Colonoscopy?
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Yes, but there is no gravitational force acting on the photon. It would have to have to have mass for that to happen.
Put simply: gravity warps space, and light passes through warped space. Not: huge gravity, so light bends toward it.
as i understand it, your wrong. if warped space is acting on something, gravity is acting on it, and vice versa. since the term ideas are , while different, essentially the same. well, from what ive gathered, gravity is actually a misnomer. no such thing, says einstein.. massive objects dont pull you towards themselves, warped spaces pushes you there.
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nah the push to forgive student loans is economic common sense. educated individuals are much more productive and over the course of their life contribute much more tax revenue than uneducated individuals. free education makes fiscal sense. my student loan is extremely small, tuition is a flat rate of 3k per 6 month term and since they allow me to work at my own pace and i transfered with about 70 credits ill be done with my bachelors in 1 or 2 terms. grad school costs 4k per 6 month term and thatll take 2 terms. total cost of tuition only about 15k for a bachelors and masters.. and with an MBA ill be making good money.
Wow. Grad school degrees used to be decided on scholarship, or some other merit...Now, it seems you can buy such a degree. I'll take a Nobel Prize, please. ::)
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Wow. Grad school degrees used to be decided on scholarship, or some other merit...Now, it seems you can buy such a degree. I'll take a Nobel Prize, please. ::)
::) www.wgu.edu look it up stud , equal or better accreditation as University of Washington, University of Oregon, Gonzaga University, University of Utah, University of Idaho, Brigham Young University and more..
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::) www.wgu.edu look it up stud
Real degrees don't need to be looked up,
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Real degrees don't need to be looked up,
::) i take it you went to harvard, stanford, yale ? u strike me as the kind of guy who would suck the cock of any man with phd but loook down on a high performing CEO who had a high school diploma
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::) www.wgu.edu look it up stud , equal or better accreditation as University of Washington, University of Oregon, Gonzaga University, University of Utah, University of Idaho, Brigham Young University and more..
again- I don't think all of you get how funny this is
"equal or better accreditation" is beyond genius
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::) i take it you went to harvard, stanford, yale ? u strike me as the kind of guy who would suck the cock of any man with phd but loook down on a high performing CEO who had a high school diploma
Trying way too hard. You back on the powder?
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BTW dudes the department of education is a big expense on taxpayers.
Xerzes shut up.
With a subsidized loan, the federal government absorbs the interest while a student is in college and six months afterward. If the CCRAA program is abolished, students would be responsible for the interest accumulated during the six months after they graduate.
With unsubsidized loans, students pay the interest that is built up during college and during the six-month grace period after graduation. The government uses a formula to determine a student's need and how much money they will receive with each type of loan. The formula includes factors like income, family size, number of people already in college and the family's assets.
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again- I don't think all of you get how funny this is
"equal or better accreditation" is beyond genius
whats really funny, the only people on this site who are actually intelligent and educated.. haider, lovemonkey, necrosis, wavelength.. they all actively engage in discussions with me.. yet the folks like you who dont have the slightest bit of insight to add on any substantial topic constantly deride me as if im some kind of retard.. this is not to insult you or to say im better than you, but to hopefully get you to take note of what im saying and to start doing a little bit of thinking of your own, instead of going through life worrying about the superficial things without any regard for meaningful ideas
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as i understand it, your wrong. if warped space is acting on something, gravity is acting on it, and vice versa. since the term ideas are , while different, essentially the same. well, from what ive gathered, gravity is actually a misnomer. no such thing, says einstein.. massive objects dont pull you towards themselves, warped spaces pushes you there.
The context of our discussion is whether photons have mass, and you presented this phenomena as evidence of it with the understanding that the Sun was 'pulling' (or pushing, whichever u prefer) hence causing a change in its trajectory.
What is actually happening is that light is moving through warped space, without feeling any gravitational force. If that was the case, then we would have photons revolving around the Sun.. and perhaps light never even reaching us because of the Sun's huge gravitational pull
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again- I don't think all of you get how funny this is
"equal or better accreditation" is beyond genius
Translation: We'll take your money but your credits will be worth nothing towards a real degree. '135 hours in a JC journalism major!? Sure. What's your SSN and bank account?' ::)
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nah the push to forgive student loans is economic common sense. educated individuals are much more productive and over the course of their life contribute much more tax revenue than uneducated individuals. free education makes fiscal sense. my student loan is extremely small, tuition is a flat rate of 3k per 6 month term and since they allow me to work at my own pace and i transfered with about 70 credits ill be done with my bachelors in 1 or 2 terms. grad school costs 4k per 6 month term and thatll take 2 terms. total cost of tuition only about 15k for a bachelors and masters.. and with an MBA ill be making good money.
Economic commonsense for who? Maybe for the freeloader who doesn't want to make the attempt to pay it back but for people who pay taxes it's just another tax burden. I can't believe I'm actually answering this from someone who makes no money but want's to high on the hog. Keep talking to me about "economic commonsense".
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Oh brother, "there's a push" huh? A few petitions and some Occupy WS folk? Let me know when that happens :D
:D
It's a lot more than that Jr.
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but there is no such thing as gravity ! there is only warped space ! however the idea that if gravity acts on something then it has mass is still relevant because interchange gravity (the old concept) with warped spae (the new and more accurate concept), and we still have a truth ! :) your comment about light light orbiting the sun.. its moving way too fast and its mass is way to little for the warped space to cause it to go into orbit !
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whats really funny, the only people on this site who are actually intelligent and educated.. haider, lovemonkey, necrosis, wavelength.. they all actively engage in discussions with me..
You are highly mistaken if you think that only those individuals are "intelligent" and "educated" my young friend.
Bay and I are both IVY league educated with multiple graduate degrees to boot.
I can also name well over 10 other guys on this site who are grad students and a handful who also have phd's.
"1"
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Translation: We'll take your money but your credits will be worth nothing towards a real degree. '135 hours in a JC journalism major!? Sure. What's your SSN and bank account?' ::)
you didnt even look at the website. western governors is an entirely non profit university founded by 13 governors who wanted to expand access to higher education. they have both regional and national accreditation, the same as gonzaga, brigham young, oregon state, and others. because the founders realized that there would be doubts about the quality of eductaion form an online university they went to enormous lengths to make sure the school is respected. the business school is advised by a coalition of major corporations who help create the education plan to better suit their needs for management employees. the teaching school is accredited by a national teachers organization that is highly respected. etc.
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i just realized that Tbombz is like a white goodrum
has anyone else realized that yet?
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You are highly mistaken if you think that only those individuals are "intelligent" and "educated" my young friend.
Bay and I are both IVY league educated with multiple graduate degrees to boot.
I can also name well over 10 other guys on this site who are grad students and a handful who also have phd's.
"1"
because you went to an ivy league school means no one else is intelligent or educated ? ;D i know bay is a smart dude. you on the other hand.. i have seen some evidence your well informed on certain subjects but , and dont take this as a personal attack, ive yet to see any indication of deep thought or advanced analytical skills. those guys i mentioned are seriously smart dudes deserving of respect.
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Economic commonsense for who? Maybe for the freeloader who doesn't want to make the attempt to pay it back but for people who pay taxes it's just another tax burden. I can't believe I'm actually answering this from someone who makes no money but want's to high on the hog. Keep talking to me about "economic commonsense".
Coach, I swear to god you will kill yourself if you lived here in quebec.
I am destroying the socialists on my facebook right now 8)
these pieces of shit want to cut 200$ from the tax of the middle class and take all that money from the rich instead (people who make 130k+ per year)
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i just realized that Tbombz is like a white goodrum
has anyone else realized that yet?
No...Goodrum has the drive to start a business and succeed.
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Economic commonsense for who? Maybe for the freeloader who doesn't want to make the attempt to pay it back but for people who pay taxes it's just another tax burden. I can't believe I'm actually answering this from someone who makes no money but want's to high on the hog. Keep talking to me about "economic commonsense".
the return on investment makes it economic common sense.
heres an analysis of the subject done by a policy analyst for the united states congress.
http://www.house.gov/jec/educ.htm
V. Conclusions
This paper has detailed the enormous benefits associated with increased education. Investment in human capital enables individuals to increase their future earnings and enhance their experience in the labor market. The knowledge that education benefits the individual student in terms of increased earnings is widespread, but information is incomplete about the benefits that increased education has on society. In the information economy of the 21st century, education will become increasingly important. Investment in education contributes to enhanced labor force productivity and enables individuals to become better citizens and parents in addition to being better workers. The effectiveness of American education will have an important impact on U.S. economic performance for the foreseeable future.
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No...Goodrum has the drive to start a business and succeed.
this is true
it's kinda like ....this guy is dense and doesn't get that everyone knows he's a joke but he doesn't know that everyone thinks he's a joke
oh, and he's also a fag
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Tdizzle is a man of all seasons..
Areas of expertise
2 year associates degree from community collage
Finance
economics
Philosophy
quantum mechanics
Mathematics
Steroids,and other ergogenic aids expert
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you didnt even look at the website. western governors is an entirely non profit university founded by 13 governors who wanted to expand access to higher education. they have both regional and national accreditation, the same as gonzaga, brigham young, oregon state, and others. because the founders realized that there would be doubts about the quality of eductaion form an online university they went to enormous lengths to make sure the school is respected. the business school is advised by a coalition of major corporations who help create the education plan to better suit their needs for management employees. the teaching school is accredited by a national teachers organization that is highly respected. etc.
Hmm. Gonzaga? Brigham Young? Founders? Any underlying ethos, brother bomz?
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Tdizzle is a man of all seasons..
Areas of expertise
2 year associates degree from community collage
Finance
economics
Philosophy
quantum mechanics
Mathematics
Steroids,and other ergogenic aids expert
no, i am absolutely horrible at mathematics.
on the other counts
guilty as charged
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If you rent that place but fail to upgrade your underwear, I'll be at a lost for words.
<* choking on my coffee *>
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Hmm. Gonzaga? Brigham Young? Founders? Any underlying ethos, brother bomz?
their in the same region of the country, which means they have to get accreditation from the same regional accreditation commission, BROTHER CHIMPS
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1450/mo is stupid for rent... why not buy something?
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1400/mo is a lot for rent, even a home, but i don't know what california prices are like, i assume they are highly inflated.
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the return on investment makes it economic common sense.
heres an analysis of the subject done by a policy analyst for the united states congress.
http://www.house.gov/jec/educ.htm
V. Conclusions
This paper has detailed the enormous benefits associated with increased education. Investment in human capital enables individuals to increase their future earnings and enhance their experience in the labor market. The knowledge that education benefits the individual student in terms of increased earnings is widespread, but information is incomplete about the benefits that increased education has on society. In the information economy of the 21st century, education will become increasingly important. Investment in education contributes to enhanced labor force productivity and enables individuals to become better citizens and parents in addition to being better workers. The effectiveness of American education will have an important impact on U.S. economic performance for the foreseeable future.
I could care less about their analysis. It's bullshit. They think the general public is stupid. Fuck that, ask someone who is on a budget, paying bills and feeding a family if they want more taken out and REDISTRIBUTED because the government thinks they know better.
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because you went to an ivy league school means no one else is intelligent or educated ? ;D i know bay is a smart dude. you on the other hand.. i have seen some evidence your well informed on certain subjects but , and dont take this as a personal attack, ive yet to see any indication of deep thought or advanced analytical skills. those guys i mentioned are seriously smart dudes deserving of respect.
You did read what I quoted you on, right?
You said "the only people on this site" who are both intelligent and educated, never did I say that just because I have multiple degrees from a couple of IVY league schools that it is an indication of others being any less capable of displaying intelligence. What you did imply with your statement was an absolute, as in "only those which you mentioned on this site" are both intelligent and educated, a statement which is a high stretch of the imagination.
I've yet to find any reason why men parading around on a bodybuilding site should be involved in deep thought or highly analytical thinking, but whatever makes you happy. I find this place has a lot of good material for toilet reading and pictures for "fapping".
I'm just a comfortable homosexual ;)
Enjoy,
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I could care less about their analysis.
again, if you could care less then you would care less
also- you are arguing with a guy who is going to the modern equivalent of the schools that used to advertise on Matchbook covers
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1450/mo is stupid for rent... why not buy something?
For one Tbombz doesn't have a job...Plus he's to sick to work...He can't stay on his feet more than one hour..
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1400/mo is a lot for rent, even a home, but i don't know what california prices are like, i assume they are highly inflated.
Rent is insane in California especially where he wants to live.
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again, if you could care less then you would care less
Please stop. I'm getting a headache.
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Please stop. I'm getting a headache.
i couldn't care less
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their in the same region of the country, which means they have to get accreditation from the same regional accreditation commission, BROTHER CHIMPS
Hmm. Ok, then. How can you, honestly, think that you have 'earned' a spot in some prestigious 'Grad' school when you don't even know the difference between 'they're' and 'their!?' That's not even grade eight shit. You wore a helmet in grade school, right?
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i couldn't care less
That was an instant takeback.
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but there is no such thing as gravity ! there is only warped space ! however the idea that if gravity acts on something then it has mass is still relevant because interchange gravity (the old concept) with warped spae (the new and more accurate concept), and we still have a truth ! :) your comment about light light orbiting the sun.. its moving way too fast and its mass is way to little for the warped space to cause it to go into orbit !
There is some confusion about the proper use of terms.
--'Gravity' is real: two masses pull on each other. Gravitational pull maybe due to warped space, but it is a real measurable force that acts nonetheless, given by F= G*m1*m2/r^2.
--A force pulls or pushes an object of mass. We are perpetually being pulled toward the Sun, because we have mass. A photon is unaffected by this.
--However if light is passing through space, and there is a warp in space it will appear to bend. It is not because it is being pulled toward a center of gravity, it is simply passing through that particular area of space.
Please please just accept this post, you are bringing me to tears :'(
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Hmm. Ok, then. How can you, honestly, think that you have 'earned' a spot in some prestigious 'Grad' school when you don't even know the difference between 'they're' and 'their!?' That's not even grade eight shit.
who gives a shit about grammar and typoes on a forum
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1400/mo is a lot for rent, even a home, but i don't know what california prices are like, i assume they are highly inflated.
see below
Rent is insane in California especially where he wants to live.
^ truth, monterey is like one of the nicest coastal towns on the planet
I could care less about their analysis. It's bullshit. They think the general public is stupid. Fuck that, ask someone who is on a budget, paying bills and feeding a family if they want more taken out and REDISTRIBUTED because the government thinks they know better.
so you agree with economists when they support republican ideals but dont give a shit when they are on the other side of the fence? ;D
you argument against taxation, if valid, would apply to every government service. and result in anarchism. just to let you know..
besides the point, investment in education pays for itself. if you woulda read the analysis youd know that.
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Hmm. Ok, then. How can you, honestly, think that you have 'earned' a spot in some prestigious 'Grad' school when you don't even know the difference between 'they're' and 'their!?' That's not even grade eight shit.
His excuse is that English is his second language..His first is Ebonics. All the wiggers speak Ebonics.
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Look, I want to make one thing clear about myself.......I'm not against student loans in anyway but if it's government backed there should be a way to monitor how that money is appropriated. If some goes for housing there should be limits on how much rent should be put out.
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There is some confusion about the proper use of terms.
--'Gravity' is real: two masses pull on each other. Gravitational pull maybe due to warped space, but it is a real measurable force that acts nonetheless, given by F= G*m1*m2/r^2.
--A force pulls or pushes an object of mass. We are perpetually being pulled toward the Sun, because we have mass. A photon is unaffected by this.
--However if light is passing through space, and there is a warp in space it will appear to bend. It is not because it is being pulled toward a center of gravity, it is simply passing through that particular area of space.
Please please just accept this post, you are bringing me to tears :'(
the space is bent because of the mass of the object ! thus its the mass of the object that causes the light to bend ! "gravity" is really just the bend of space!
you know im not going to just accept your post ;D
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if it's an expensive area then, 1,400/mo is probably a good deal for renting a home.
i'm not one of those people who views renting as "a waste of money" since when you buy property you are spending a large portion on paying off compounded interest anyways and no, homes aren't always a good investment look at the housing bubble crash of 08. also, real estate value is determined almost exclusively on location.
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Look, I want to make one thing clear about myself.......I'm not against student loans in anyway but if it's government backed there should be a way to monitor how that money is appropriated. If some goes for housing there should be limits on how much rent should be put out.
it is govt backed but they are loaned out by private companies
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who gives a shit about grammar and typoes on a forum
Says the clown who incorrectly spelled 'typos,' and whose name is 'aesthetics.' Boy, have you chosen the wrong name, game and fight. Shrewd. ::)
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what are you on about idiot
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Nothing to wiggle out of. Unless his loan is privately funded I could careless.
Loans are privately funded, your nemesis obama this year passed law no longer subsidizing student loans(ie federal stafford subsidized and unsubsidized). If Tbomz takes a loan out he or his guarantors will be liable for the principal plus interest payments.
Your ignorance has no boundaries
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why arent u against student loans? look at what a waste most people's education was, education is just another product, another service, why the fuck do schools get money from the govt
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me and the gf arent going to rent it unless its still on the market in late may. were splitting rent so we can afford to slurge a little. her student loan budgets 1500 per month for housing. my federal loan wont cover rent at all, just tuition basically and a little left over cuz my sister is paying for the first term.. without her helping the loan wouldnt even cover full tuition. im hoping to get my parents to cosign on a private loan to finance my living expenses while taking clases. i plan on spending about 60 hours per week on average doing classes and i dont want to have to do anything else. im very excited and motivated to get this done, and when i want to do something i do it 150%. if given the oppurtunity to focus on the schooling alone and not have to worry about work i am fully confident i can get done what should take 4-5 years in under 2.
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pretty much all money is derived from the govt so it's really a moot point.
fed - > banks - > corporations/whatever
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me and the gf arent going to rent it unless its still on the market in late may. were splitting rent so we can afford to slurge a little. her student loan budgets 1500 per month for housing. my federal loan wont cover rent at all, just tuition basically and a little left over cuz my sister is paying for the first term.. without her helping the loan wouldnt even cover full tuition. im hoping to get my parents to cosign on a private loan to finance my living expenses while taking clases. i plan on spending about 60 hours per week on average doing classes and i dont want to have to do anything else. im very excited and motivated to get this done, and when i want to do something i do it 150%. if given the oppurtunity to focus on the schooling alone and not have to worry about work i am fully confident i can get done what should take 4-5 years in under 2.
looks like someone hasnt heard of ...the recession. Idiot.
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Tbombz, it's called getting a job man. I had a friend in college who was a bber, he was taking 26 credits a sememster, and was a stripper, and did martial arts. His major was Poly Sci.
I believe he went to Georgetown Law School after that...
But, he was working.
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if it's an expensive area then, 1,400/mo is probably a good deal for renting a home.
i'm not one of those people who views renting as "a waste of money" since when you buy property you are spending a large portion on paying off compounded interest anyways and no, homes aren't always a good investment look at the housing bubble crash of 08. also, real estate value is determined almost exclusively on location.
It's just called having some common sense about the situation. Right now if you can raise a decent down payment, back it up with a 15 year fixed at current interest rates and put it towards a fairly priced home in a good location, that is a pretty solid investment.
I realize that I'm not discussing nuclear physics and how it relates to the existence of god so in Tbombz's mind I'm not that "intelligent" but what he is doing is just a stupid financial move and it doesn't take a genius to figure THAT out.
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What a crock of shit tbomz ::) The guy who can't function on ten hours of sleep is some how going to finish a 4-5 year program in 2 years. You're so full of hot air.
You should learn to humble yourself a little.
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What a crock of shit tbomz ::) The guy who can't function on ten hours of sleep is some how going to finish a 4-5 year program in 2 years. You're so full of hot air.
he s not even going to start it... he s never going to be allowed to rent that flat... all of this is just pure unalterated drivel, it's only in his head. We should just stop responding in his threads. They just make no sense at all.
You should learn to humble yourself a little.
he s just a lost, immature, ignorant pathological liar looking for some attention.
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dont forget, he goes to a prestigious online university, which is kind of like a tall midget, in that it makes no sense
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Cause most don't have down payment money to purchase homes. Took me and the wife a couple years to save a down payment for our home.
i got a no money down loan for my house. also got the goverment deal 1000bucks for every 10000 borrowed
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Tbombz, it's called getting a job man. I had a friend in college who was a bber, he was taking 26 credits a sememster, and was a stripper, and did martial arts. His major was Poly Sci.
I believe he went to Georgetown Law School after that...
But, he was working.
Wow, i've heard of 21 hrs in a semester w/permission from the dean but never 26. then again, i was bio/chem, guess you could pull that off in liberal arts.
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Wow, i've heard of 21 hrs in a semester w/permission from the dean but never 26. then again, i was bio/chem, guess you could pull that off in liberal arts.
Hehe. Good to see the Arts/sci dichotomy is still alive. :)
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dont forget, he goes to a prestigious online university, which is kind of like a tall midget, in that it makes no sense
He asks for advice, then ignores the advice from the guys who have been there and done that.
I highly doubt he's ever set a goal, buckled down and got to work, dedicated himself, and achieved what he originally set out to do. But I guess that really isn't important when the school you're planning to attend gets routinely compared to the "University" of Phoenix.
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the space is bent because of the mass of the object ! thus its the mass of the object that causes the light to bend ! "gravity" is really just the bend of space!
you know im not going to just accept your post ;D
For ordinary particles with mass, the gravitational pull is carried out by so called gravitons(massively supported by theory but not by observation yet due to the unbelievably small scale they exist in) but photons are not affected by these. The path of a photon is only affected by the curving of space time as a side effect of a huge mass, like the sun for example.
So photons are technically not affected by gravity itself. If saying that they indeed are affected by gravity but only indirectly makes you feel better then sure why not.
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For ordinary particles with mass, the gravitational pull is carried out by so called gravitons(massively supported by theory but not by observation yet due to the unbelievably small scale they exist in) but photons are not affected by these. The path of a photon is only affected by the curving of space time as a side effect of a huge mass, like the sun for example.
So photons are technically not affected by gravity itself. If saying that they indeed are affected by gravity but only indirectly makes you feel better then sure why not.
yeah but, who cares? unless you are trying to explain why your penis is so small yet curves to the right ;D
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Wow, i've heard of 21 hrs in a semester w/permission from the dean but never 26. then again, i was bio/chem, guess you could pull that off in liberal arts.
My last semester I carried 21-22, and had permission from the Dean,
in fact one class, I had to drive up from the school I was student teaching in Annapolis, to the dept chair's office, just to be the only student---on Mondays.
And that was to grad in 4 yrs instead of the 5 for the dual major (Hist-Secondary Ed).
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so . . .
tbombz' plan is to move into a luxury apartment he can't afford because he likes the view, in order to "attend" classes in a bogus online university that he is convinced has equal or better accreditation to real schools because they said so on a television ad. Furthermore, he plans to pay for his overpriced accomodations with his student loan because he doesn't want to get a job . . .
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LOL @ 'girlfriend' and 'school.'
I was never in one worth a goddamn.
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so . . .
tbombz' plan is to move into a luxury apartment he can't afford because he likes the view, in order to "attend" classes in a bogus online university that he is convinced has equal or better accreditation to real schools because they said so on a television ad. Furthermore, he plans to pay for his overpriced accomodations with his student loan because he doesn't want to get a job . . .
Twodongz is busy rewriting quantum physics, he doesn't have time for the worries of common people.
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whats really funny, the only people on this site who are actually intelligent and educated.. haider, lovemonkey, necrosis, wavelength.. they all actively engage in discussions with me.. yet the folks like you who dont have the slightest bit of insight to add on any substantial topic constantly deride me as if im some kind of retard.. this is not to insult you or to say im better than you, but to hopefully get you to take note of what im saying and to start doing a little bit of thinking of your own, instead of going through life worrying about the superficial things without any regard for meaningful ideas
thanks man, I'm truely honored.
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instead of going through life worrying about the superficial things without any regard for meaningful ideas
i really have nothing against you T, but how can you write this with a straight face when you risk your health and, at minimum, alot of money using rec's and AAS? what is more "superficial" than a 20 in arm?
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so . . .
tbombz' plan is to move into a luxury apartment he can't afford because he likes the view, in order to "attend" classes in a bogus online university that he is convinced has equal or better accreditation to real schools because they said so on a television ad. Furthermore, he plans to pay for his overpriced accomodations with his student loan because he doesn't want to get a job . . .
He also heavily counts on his "girlfriend" to pay for everything and plan to eventually leave her alone if "things go bad". hahaha this turd cant be for real. Pure insanity.
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i really have nothing against you T, but how can you write this with a straight face when you risk your health and, at minimum, alot of money using rec's and AAS? what is more "superficial" than a 20 in arm?
exactly, plus let's not forget how much money he wants to pay (with his loan) for an appartment just because the "nice view"
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so . . .
tbombz' plan is to move into a luxury apartment he can't afford because he likes the view, in order to "attend" classes in a bogus online university that he is convinced has equal or better accreditation to real schools because they said so on a television ad. Furthermore, he plans to pay for his overpriced accomodations with his student loan because he doesn't want to get a job . . .
thanks for summing it up so succinctly...
tbomz is an lazy idiot who likes a great view..
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For ordinary particles with mass, the gravitational pull is carried out by so called gravitons(massively supported by theory but not by observation yet due to the unbelievably small scale they exist in) but photons are not affected by these. The path of a photon is only affected by the curving of space time as a side effect of a huge mass, like the sun for example.
So photons are technically not affected by gravity itself. If saying that they indeed are affected by gravity but only indirectly makes you feel better then sure why not.
i havent looked into this yet, last bit of research i did on the matter (no pun intended ;D ) was to look into haiders posts.. during that bit of searching i came across a video from the asian physicist you always see on science channell.. thinks hes from harvard or yale or stanford.. anyways he says in the video gravity doesnt really exist.. that its a misnomer to say two objects pull eachother towards each other or are attracted to one another.. its just that any object that exists bends the space around it... like a bowling ball in the center of a trampoline... so that anything within its sphere of influence will move towards it because of that bent space.. gravity was a failed hypothesis.. at least thats what i remember from the video i watched.. so the whole gravitrons things doesnt seem to hold up within that context... that being said ill look into it..
so . . .
tbombz' plan is to move into a luxury apartment he can't afford because he likes the view, in order to "attend" classes in a bogus online university that he is convinced has equal or better accreditation to real schools because they said so on a television ad. Furthermore, he plans to pay for his overpriced accomodations with his student loan because he doesn't want to get a job . . .
western governors university. check it out broseph mcjonestein. completely non profit, founded by 13 governors of western states, regional and nationall accreditation, and most of the nations largest corporations help them create their business curiculum to help create management that can be of value to them.. lots of big time CEO's hold degrees from wgu, and only from wgu.. sorry if you paid 50k for a Bachelors.. theres a better way champ.. unless you need someone to hold your hand everstep of the way
I was never in one worth a goddamn.
a girlfriend or a school? ;D
thanks man, I'm truely honored.
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i really have nothing against you T, but how can you write this with a straight face when you risk your health and, at minimum, alot of money using rec's and AAS? what is more "superficial" than a 20 in arm?
i stay covered up, never wear revealing clothing, walk with my shoulders slumped and gut stuck out, keep to myself, dont talk to anybody. introverted guy, youd think i was very shy if you saw me but didnt know me. my bodybuilding obsession has ntohing to do with superficiality in the sense you are thinking. its a personal quest only.
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the only good thing in Monterrey,ca is the clam chowder,we literrally have buckets sitting in the freezer of the stuff. its soooooo good :P
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Guess the asking rent for this place in Sydney.
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a girlfriend or a school? ;D
You know it, Monterey Jack!
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Wait til you see the price of gas in Monterey.
It's waaaaay higher than where *you* live now, trust me.
Monterey and Carmel.. they are nice tourist attractions, that's about it. Very $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$