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Took a gander at Scotty Bowers' just released memoir, 'Full Service,' detailing his many years as a Hollywood fixer/pimp. There was no index, so I couldn't look up actors and page nos, so I rifled the pics. Well, I find a pic of Steve Reeves, who Bowers notes like many BBers, wasn't gay, but frequently rented himself out for money. Bowers specifically mentions tricking out Reeves to George Cukor. And away we go.....
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in before Coach said it never happened :D
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Reeves was a muscular saint, that would never have done such ungodly things, he had too much character
Plus it was pre-information age, so no proof, so it never happenned
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Well, I find a pic of Steve Reeves, who Bowers notes like many BBers, wasn't gay, but frequently rented himself out for money. Bowers specifically mentions tricking out Reeves to George Cukor. And away we go.....
Oh noes! Half the members of Ironage just shit their pants and had heart attacks.
:o ;D .
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Oh noes! Half the members of Ironage just shit their pants and had heart attacks.
:o ;D .
Or they might just be jacking off at the idea of it. ;D
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Does this come as a shock to you? ::)
Bodybuilding "grew" as a "sport" while in reality since day 1 it was pimping young muscular males to old rich queers.
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The original weider mags for which arnold posed as well, were homo erotic stuff
As Bay says, bbing goes hand on cock with gay entertainment
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Anyone who got anywhere in Hollywood, and you can class reeves as someone who at least got some fame, tricked themselves to someone.It helps that the theatrical types are typically bi/gay anyway, but also if they arnt, they are so motivated by the idea of fame and money they will do whatever it takes against the 1000's of others they are casting against for a role.You are a gay casting agent, you have narrowed it down to 3 actors for a lead, cant decide between them but one is willing to polish your rod all night, nuff said.
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How do you think Arnold survived before coming to America?
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so so these guys get bend over and get cock in their ass for money ??? ?
wtf ? lol thats a disgrace
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so so these guys get bend over and get cock in their ass for money ??? ?
wtf ? lol thats a disgrace
Wow, you must be new to this.
Do you know they take steroids? ::) ::)
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lol i know it but i dont want to believe it lmao, i can understand flexing on cam, even shoving beads up your ass on cam... but man, i couldn't imagine big ron bent over and getting anal-ed by some schmoe and screaming out " ain't nuttin but a peanut!"
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How do you think Arnold survived before coming to America?
:D
as if AFTER his arival he took "less" cock up his ass .. Arnie was Joe's personal glory hole
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lol i know it but i dont want to believe it lmao, i can understand flexing on cam, even shoving beads up your ass on cam... but man, i couldn't imagine big ron bent over and getting anal-ed by some schmoe and screaming out " ain't nuttin but a peanut!"
That's why Ronnie had a full time job, competing was secondary.
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This stuff is no surprise to anyone who understands how Hollywood or bodybuilding works. I lived in Cali for 6 years and did some modeling work...shit is everywhere. Wake up and see the reality.
As for Steve Reeves? What I find the most interesting about him is that he turned down the role for "the man with no name" character in a A Fistfull of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and the Good the Bad and the Ugly that Clint Eastwood played and became an icon. Oh, how would Hollywood be if Steeve did take that role!!! Crazy to think about it.
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That's why Ronnie had a full time job, competing was secondary.
::)
you are naive if you think Ronnie is "innocent"
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As for Steve Reeves? hat I find the most interesting about him is that he turned down the role for "the man with no name" character in a A Fistfull of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and the Good the Bad and the Ugly that Clint Eastwood played and became an icon. Oh, how wood Hollywood be if Steeve did take that role!!! Crazy to think about it.
lol never heard of that.... guess he g4p paid him enough even back then
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its like homosexuals are the most powerful people lol with mst money, paying other men for sex like NP
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lol never heard of that.... guess he g4p paid him enough even back then
Reeves did his time in the g4p before he got into movies. But he knew what he needed to do to get to the top.
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So Reeve's secret was large quantities of schmoe semen
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So Reeve's secret was large quantities of schmoe semen
Tbombz feels much better now.
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its like homosexuals are the most powerful people lol with mst money, paying other men for sex like NP
No, said men allowed their pride drop along with their robe...that's all.
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No, said men allowed their pride drop along with their robe...that's all.
bro I dont understand how someone can do this.. i have no problem against gays, but i could never imagine having sex with a man, esp being on this receiving end.. wtf
i dont wanna live on this planet anymore
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It seems to be a theme among gay guys to say a dead famous person was secretly gay. There is never any real proof and the dead person can't defend themself.
Just like Hoover from the FBI has been labeled as being gay when there is no proof except for a movie script.
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Took a gander at Scotty Bowers' just released memoir, 'Full Service,' detailing his many years as a Hollywood fixer/pimp. There was no index, so I couldn't look up actors and page nos, so I rifled the pics. Well, I find a pic of Steve Reeves, who Bowers notes like many BBers, wasn't gay, but frequently rented himself out for money. Bowers specifically mentions tricking out Reeves to George Cukor. And away we go.....
Are you saying he may of had sex with Dan Lurie?
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It seems to be a theme among gay guys to say a dead famous person was secretly gay. There is never any real proof and the dead person can't defend themself.
Just like Hoover from the FBI has been labeled as being gay when there is no proof except for a movie script.
Are you really this clueless. Really? ???
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I'm not surprised. However ................. I highly doubt Coleman got involved with the " G4P " scene. I HIGHLY doubt it.
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It is insane to say that posing in a stage all oiled up, with a thong stuck up your asshole, for an audience that is 99% male, is not gay. Just insane.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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It seems to be a theme among gay guys to say a dead famous person was secretly gay. There is never any real proof and the dead person can't defend themself.
Just like Hoover from the FBI has been labeled as being gay when there is no proof except for a movie script.
There's always proof to anything and everything. Its just a matter of finding "proof".
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You guys crack me up. So I guess you also must believe that Reg Park had to have done *whatever* to get his Hercules roles, win Mr. Universe, whatever..
... so if these guys didn't xxxxxx, then their fame would have gone to some one else?
Maybe this is the only way you guys see yourselves achieving anything in this life, but these guys you are talking about were all just money waiting to be made. It's not complicated.
These discussions say more about you guys then about them..
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Are you really this clueless. Really? ???
Proof of this?
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Why is it that anyone involved in bodybuilding that makes something of themselves,always gets accused of G4P ?
Fuck that book,Reeves was a god among mortal men in his day.
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Hollywood is 90% gay just take a look at the movies and tv shows coming they are loaded with gay characters if you are not willing to give a blowjob or take it up the ass good luck making it in hollywood.
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just leave it at that.....
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Hollywood is 90% gay just take a look at the movies and tv shows coming they are loaded with gay characters if you are not willing to give a blowjob or take it up the ass good luck making it in hollywood.
That`s why I passed up the role as The Hulk and let Louie have it instead........exit only bro! ;)
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Took a gander at Scotty Bowers' just released memoir, 'Full Service,' detailing his many years as a Hollywood fixer/pimp. There was no index, so I couldn't look up actors and page nos, so I rifled the pics. Well, I find a pic of Steve Reeves, who Bowers notes like many BBers, wasn't gay, but frequently rented himself out for money. Bowers specifically mentions tricking out Reeves to George Cukor. And away we go.....
from gh15 claiming he was on test and insulin to this
consider the sources :-\
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from gh15 claiming he was on test and insulin to this
consider the sources :-\
;D
When I saw the thread topic I knew this was gonna rile you up!
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Why is it that anyone involved in bodybuilding that makes something of themselves,always gets accused of G4P ?
Fuck that book,Reeves was a god among mortal men in his day.
Probably because the whole purpose of bodybuilding is to show off your body--to other men. Men who view this as a worthwhile hobby/profession and the men who want to watch the results of this endeavor tend to be men who like men. They may not self identify as gay, but if it walks like a duck, wears a thong like a duck, roids up like a duck, and private poses like a duck… well, you do the math. ::)
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It seems to be a theme among gay guys to say a dead famous person was secretly gay. There is never any real proof and the dead person can't defend themself.
Just like Hoover from the FBI has been labeled as being gay when there is no proof except for a movie script.
honestly with reeves we're just talking shit here. I personally would like to think he wasn't in to advancing himself at all costs, but then again, who cares, mans dead, and let's let it be.
I can joke around, but that's my opinion
As regards Hoover, he lived with his assistant, they travelled to work together, took lunch together everyday, went to shows and clubs together, took vacations together, kept photos of each other, and took numerous pics on holiday of each other, and together most famously a pic hoover took of his assistant/house-mate/friend while he was sleeping.......
That was quite a bromance.
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who would have thought!
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PUknqBXUFFA/Tlb4Cz7BiqI/AAAAAAAAE98/CKXSLA2B21U/s1600/steve-reeves-3.jpg)
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;D
When I saw the thread topic I knew this was gonna rile you up!
Not riled up at all , again consider the sources. lots of claims no proof
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Probably because the whole purpose of bodybuilding is to show off your body--to other men. Men who view this as a worthwhile hobby/profession and the men who want to watch the results of this endeavor tend to be men who like men. They may not self identify as gay, but if it walks like a duck, wears a thong like a duck, roids up like a duck, and private poses like a duck… well, you do the math. ::)
Yeah,but Reeves had movie star good looks as well as a great physique....it`s not impossible that someone spotted him and wanted him in their flicks based on this alone.
I`m not naieve` and maybe he was gay/bi or put out for the roles he got,but I`d need more proof than this book to convince me of that.
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Exactly...not sayin it isn't possible but I HIGHLY doubt Reeves would resort to that vile shit...
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Yeah,but Reeves had movie star good looks as well as a great physique....it`s not impossible that someone spotted him and wanted him in their flicks based on this alone.
I`m not naieve` and maybe he was gay/bi or put out for the roles he got,but I`d need more proof than this book to convince me of that.
Exactly , someone says it so it must be true. :-\
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Yeah,but Reeves had movie star good looks as well as a great physique....it`s not impossible that someone spotted him and wanted him in their flicks based on this alone.
I`m not naieve` and maybe he was gay/bi or put out for the roles he got,but I`d need more proof than this book to convince me of that.
No amount of proof can overcome denial. If you want to be in denial, that is certainly your prerogative, but what exactly are you accomplishing by clinging to that? Do you have some emotional investment in his reputation? Why? Watching someone in denial is often more embarrassing than the exposure of the thing they are in denial about. :-X
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Not riled up at all , again consider the sources. lots of claims no proof
the pic above, was the theme of the times, when in the 40s and 50s homo erotica and bbing mags seemed the same
Doesn't mean it went further than that, I agree
All I can say, is those were good times because of lack of internet, and info
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the pic above, was the theme of the times, when in the 40s and 50s homo erotica and bbing mags seemed the same
Doesn't mean it went further than that, I agree
All I can say, is those were good times because of lack of internet, and info
Ignorance is bliss. ::)
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:D
as if AFTER his arival he took "less" cock up his ass .. Arnie was Joe's personal glory hole
Sick crazy beautiful world we live in.
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Ok. I just skimmed the book. The Reeves' part is on pg 189, if anyone is interested. Book is light, gossipy in tone, certainly not some scholarly publication. Also, it comes with Gore Vidal's seal of approval, for what that's worth.
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Probably because the whole purpose of bodybuilding is to show off your body--to other men. Men who view this as a worthwhile hobby/profession and the men who want to watch the results of this endeavor tend to be men who like men. They may not self identify as gay, but if it walks like a duck, wears a thong like a duck, roids up like a duck, and private poses like a duck… well, you do the math. ::)
Hey!!! Leave ducks out of this! >:(
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I saw an interview with Reeves as an older man, didn't seem to sharp, surprisingly deep voice.
Given the rumors and trends of the time i'm pretty sure Steve and his peers were all running test, pimping themselves out really wouldn't surprise me.
The whole bodybuilding pursuit really did evolve from the greeks and their ideals. Young athletic men and older "father figures".
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No amount of proof can overcome denial. If you want to be in denial, that is certainly your prerogative, but what exactly are you accomplishing by clinging to that? Do you have some emotional investment in his reputation? Why? Watching someone in denial is often more embarrassing than the exposure of the thing they are in denial about. :-X
How about starting with any proof? guilty by association. You act like there are no heterosexual professional bodybuilders who ever entered the sport did well and retired without a blemish on their reputations ::)
You need everyone to be ' gay ' it fits your agenda
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How about starting with any proof? guilty by association. You act like there are no heterosexual professional bodybuilders who ever entered the sport did well and retired without a blemish on their reputations ::)
You need everyone to be ' gay ' it fits your agenda
My agenda? What exactly is my agenda? ???
Here is another question for you: what is the "agenda" of a man who trains for thousands of hours in the gym, eats like crazy, injects supplements to make his muscles grow unnaturally large (even to the point of risking his health) just so he can put on a thong and flex his muscles for an audience of men? Or do you still believe the guy who does this is doing it “for the ladies”? Is musclegallery.com for the ladies? Connect... the... dots... my friend. ::) http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248135.0
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No amount of proof can overcome denial. If you want to be in denial, that is certainly your prerogative, but what exactly are you accomplishing by clinging to that? Do you have some emotional investment in his reputation? Why? Watching someone in denial is often more embarrassing than the exposure of the thing they are in denial about. :-X
I`m not in denial at all,just because an author writes doesn`t mean it`s so.
Besides Bay,you thrive on shit like this.......it reinforces your mythical belief that all bodybuilders are gay! ;D
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My agenda? What exactly is my agenda? ???
Here is another question for you: what is the "agenda" of a man who trains for thousands of hours in the gym, eats like crazy, injects supplements to make his muscles grow unnaturally large (even to the point of risking his health) just so he can put on a thong and flex his muscles for an audience of men? Or do you still believe the guy who does this is doing it “for the ladies”? Is musclegallery.com for the ladies? Connect... the... dots... my friend. ::) http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248135.0
I don't see how anyone could argue with this...
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I`m not in denial at all,just because an author writes doesn`t mean it`s so.
Besides Bay,you thrive on shit like this.......it reinforces your mythical belief that all bodybuilders are gay! ;D
All gay? Not at all. They just like to show off their bodies--to other men. Call it what you will. :-\
A rose by any other name would be just as schmoetastic! :-*
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My agenda? What exactly is my agenda? ???
Here is another question for you: what is the "agenda" of a man who trains for thousands of hours in the gym, eats like crazy, injects supplements to make his muscles grow unnaturally large (even to the point of risking his health) just so he can put on a thong and flex his muscles for an audience of men? Or do you still believe the guy who does this is doing it “for the ladies”? Is musclegallery.com for the ladies? Connect... the... dots... my friend. ::) http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248135.0
Your agenda is to lump everyone together and draw the conclusion if this guy does it then everyone does it. You have something to work with especially when it comes to this ' sport ' but seriously just because you seen the seedy part of the sport doesn't mean everyone is involved
Lots of guys have made it through without being tainted by the underworld of bodybuilding's dark side. You want everyone to be gay and if they don't see it your way they are in denial about being gay , you can only see this sport from the perspective of a man attracted to other men and then draw the conclusion that if we are both looking at the same thing it means we are thinking the same and it's not
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How do you think Arnold survived before coming to America?
He works on buildingsites !.Inform yourself !.
Franco explained a long time ago how they work as builders in 1968/9/70 & how they make mockery of
Americans who could not read/understand metric system ;D ;D.
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All gay? Not at all. They just like to show off their bodies--to other men. Call it what you will. :-\
A rose by any other name would be just as schmoetastic! :-*
You are a funny gay man Bay! LOL ;D
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How about starting with any proof? guilty by association. You act like there are no heterosexual professional bodybuilders who ever entered the sport did well and retired without a blemish on their reputations ::)
You need everyone to be ' gay ' it fits your agenda
All you have to do is see what these people did for a living and if they had a family with money who backed them. These guys with $100 in their pocket who fly to California to make it big with no job and no prospects and stay in cult almost 100% do shit like G4p to get by.
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All you have to do is see what these people did for a living and if they had a family with money who backed them. These guys with $100 in their pocket who fly to California to make it big with no job and no prospects and stay in cult almost 100% do shit like G4p to get by.
That is still not proof! He wants to see photos and video of Steve in explicit relations with another man. And even THAT could be photoshopped or doctored. Hence there is no proof! ::)
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That is still not proof! He wants to see a photos and video of Steve in explicit relations with another man. And even THAT could be photoshopped or doctored. ::)
Or course it's not proof , it's proof because you have an agenda ::) one reference in a book is all you need ::) seriously your standards are low because you already drew your conclusion based on the seedy side of bodybuilding , again everyone is guilty by association , it's the exact same when people say he was on steroids without zero evidence what so ever , well they were ' around ' back then and guys today abuse them , and he was involved in bodybuilding so therefore he was ON ::)
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That is still not proof! He wants to see photos and video of Steve in explicit relations with another man. And even THAT could be photoshopped or doctored. Hence there is no proof! ::)
Exactly! ;)
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Or course it's not proof , it's proof because you have an agenda ::) one reference in a book is all you need ::) seriously your standards are low because you already drew your conclusion based on the seedy side of bodybuilding , again everyone is guilty by association , it's the exact same when people say he was on steroids without zero evidence what so ever , well they were ' around ' back then and guys today abuse them , and he was involved in bodybuilding so therefore he was ON ::)
Not saying it's 100% nailed down but what would the reasoning be for Steve's mention. I doubt if there are a hundred thousand people alive who know who Steve Reeves is, it's hardly worth the mention from a publicity angle.
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Not saying it's 100% nailed down but what would the reasoning be for Steve's mention. I doubt if there are a hundred thousand people alive who know who Steve Reeves is, it's hardly worth the mention from a publicity angle.
who knows , Reeves is big in the gay community maybe they want to make him one of their own.
I just like how he is automatically outed because of one reference in some book. Like the guys who claim he was on steroids , they don't need much because it fits their agenda.
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who knows , Reeves is big in the gay community maybe they want to make him one of their own.
I just like how he is automatically outed because of one reference in some book. Like the guys who claim he was on steroids , they don't need much because it fits their agenda.
I would just label it a possability, no real way to substantiate it, but his profession of choice and surroundings invite speculation.
Bay just loves fucking with you guys.
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lol @ proof, we have NO proof that ronnie coleman is on steroids, if fact rn has stated that " he ain't on no steroids" , are you saying he is lying ? I want proof of this if you are saying its true, other wise don't speculate.
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lol thread filled with one rational thinking man, and a bunch of closeted homosexuals/bisexuals trying to flex their e muscles.
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G4P? Does that mean Gain for Pain, similar to No Pain, No Gain? ;D
I think it is unfair to apply 21st century (im)morals to mid-twentieth century morals. While I am sure that G4P is rampant in bodybuilding currently, I doubt it was prevalent before the 60's. Reeves definitely posed for "cheesecake" photos; the evidence is there. There is no proof, anecdotal or otherwise, that Reeves did any sort of G4P, so to speculate so blatantly is a dishonor to his memory. If Reeves was still alive, such talk would be slander and he'd be within his rights to sue for defamation of character.
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Oh yeah.....I can totally see how that would only be gay NOW......
::) ;D
Although he was talking about other photographs in another thread Gordiano’s quote makes the point rather well. It doesn’t take a 2012 perspective to see that so many of those photos from yesteryear were in fact gay. It is amusing to hear more than one of you insist on some kind of “proof” that these muscle/fitness heroes from years ago were swinging both ways. You call for “proof” as if bodybuilders peddling their muscles just started last year and prior to that homosexual behavior among bodybuilders never existed.
This all goes back to Sandow and even before... :-*
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Although he was talking about other photographs in another thread Gordiano’s quote makes the point rather well. It doesn’t take a 2012 perspective to see that so many of those photos from yesteryear were in fact gay. It is amusing to hear more than one of you insist on some kind of “proof” that these muscle/fitness heroes from years ago were swinging both ways. You call for “proof” as if bodybuilders peddling their muscles just started last year and prior to that homosexual behavior among bodybuilders never existed.
This all goes back to Sandow and even before... :-*
Bay what would you have done if you were born before the steroid era? With no larger than life muscle studs to satisfy your needs?
Fat truckers and lumberjacks?
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Bay what would you have done if you were born before the steroid era? With no larger than life muscle studs to satisfy your needs?
Fat truckers and lumberjacks?
Think about it... anyone on this board can answer that question because we are all looking at the same men. ;)
Bear in mind, even in the old days there were still muscle studs. Our idea of what is huge today is different, but huge guys back then were considered huge compared to average Joes so they stood out and represented the apotheosis of the male form.
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Of course Steve Reeves was BUYsexual. A drug using BUYsexual whatever the fanboys want to believe. Obviously nothing wrong with this.
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Think about it... anyone on this board can answer that question because we are all looking at the same men. ;)
Bear in mind, even in the old days there were still muscle studs. Our idea of what is huge today is different, but huge guys back then were considered huge compared to average Joes so they stood out and represented the apotheosis of the male form.
No Bay i'm asexual, i can't answer that question. It's just a visual pursuit.
I suppose you are right though, you judge it to whatever the standard is.
But if you got time warped you would lack satisfaction, due to a heightened ideal, my big ebony cock munching friend.
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Is it possible that Reeves made it big in Hollywood and bodybuilding because he woman like his pictures and movies? 90% of shit in America is and has always been "marketed" to women. Women control 65 percent of global spending and more than 80 percent of U.S. spending.
Women made Paul Newman, Robert Redford, George Clooney and Brad Pitt rich too. ;)
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Is it possible that Reeves made it big in Hollywood and bodybuilding because he woman like his pictures and movies? 90% of shit in America is and has always been "marketed" to women. Women control 65 percent of global spending and more than 80 percent of U.S. spending.
Women made Paul Newman, Robert Redford, George Clooney and Brad Pitt rich too. ;)
No bro. Old jewish guys giving them their big break made them rich...
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Ignorance is bliss. ::)
Yep
In certain cases its best
Just like I don't look at john wayne movies the same
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Although he was talking about other photographs in another thread Gordiano’s quote makes the point rather well. It doesn’t take a 2012 perspective to see that so many of those photos from yesteryear were in fact gay. It is amusing to hear more than one of you insist on some kind of “proof” that these muscle/fitness heroes from years ago were swinging both ways. You call for “proof” as if bodybuilders peddling their muscles just started last year and prior to that homosexual behavior among bodybuilders never existed.
This all goes back to Sandow and even before... :-*
This does make sense, in a way, and sandow was gay or bisexual, whatever, that is true. And many, many others
But if I decide to take my physique to its limits and beyond to compete in bbing contests, its not gonna change my orientation from hetero to homo, is it?
Even if the people in audience are men, maybe gay, it doesn't automatically make me gay, does it?
What you're saying is guys do favours for gays to progress and further themselves?
That, is fact in bodybuilding, and I'm sure its been around since the dumbell was invented. But doesn't mean we're all gay
(no homo)
;D
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This does make sense, in a way, and sandow was gay or bisexual, whatever, that is true. And many, many others
Why would you believe that? You have no proof! :D
But if I decide to take my physique to its limits and beyond to compete in bbing contests, its not gonna change my orientation from hetero to homo, is it?
Even if the people in audience are men, maybe gay, it doesn't automatically make me gay, does it?
No, but it does mean you are engaging in gay behavior. Aspiring to show off your body to a room full of men while wearing a thong is not a heterosexual ambition. :-*
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Bay is on this thread like a hobo on a hotdog ! ;D
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Bay is on this thread like a hobo on a hotdog ! ;D
Are we to conclude that you posted in this thread 7 times because you weren't interested in this topic? :-*
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Are we to conclude that you posted in this thread 7 times because you weren't interested in this topic? :-*
Just trying to convey the idea that you are presently basking in your glory. ;D
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Bay approaches things from a hypersexual male perspective.
Think about the female psyche. Attention whoring is not necessarily related to sexuality.
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Just trying to convey the idea that you are presently basking in your glory. ;D
Reeves is not my idea of muscle glory. His pecs are too small and his glutes aren't shredded! :(
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And away we go.....
Where did you go?
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Are you really this clueless. Really? ???
Keep taking history lessons from movies.
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Reeves is not my idea of muscle glory. His pecs are too small and his glutes aren't shredded! :(
LOL :)
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Bay got his ass handed to him by ND in this thread!
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My agenda? What exactly is my agenda? ???
Here is another question for you: what is the "agenda" of a man who trains for thousands of hours in the gym, eats like crazy, injects supplements to make his muscles grow unnaturally large (even to the point of risking his health) just so he can put on a thong and flex his muscles for an audience of men? Or do you still believe the guy who does this is doing it “for the ladies”? Is musclegallery.com for the ladies? Connect... the... dots... my friend. ::) http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248135.0
The training, eating, drugs etc. is not soley in order to flex to an audience. It's a preferred look the individual has and is willing to do a lot to obtain it. Not everything we do has sexual motives. Sometimes I wear clothes for example that my wife doesn't like or I know women in general don't like, but it's just a look I prefer so I do it...not everything we do is in order to attract someone sexually.
As for the second part, competing, most do it just out of a sense of competitiveness, to see where they stand against others who are pursuing a muscular physique, or in extreme cases as in the top few in the world it's done even to earn an income. Again, doesn't have to be sexual in any way. I bet less than 10% of competitive boybuilders are motivated to compete in order to impress any gender or get laid.
You really find it difficult thinking outside of the sexual-box huh? :-\
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I had no clue before coming onto these message boards how many people train
for sexual reasons. I am shocked at how many people use steroids to 'bang more chicks'
or attract men or whatever the person is into.
I honestly didn't think anyone really cared about muscles, even chicks. I do notice they like a lean
midsection, but I don't think having some extra muscle really makes a difference between
getting laid or not.
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I had no clue before coming onto these message boards how many people train
for sexual reasons. I am shocked at how many people use steroids to 'bang more chicks'
or attract men or whatever the person is into.
I honestly didn't think anyone really cared about muscles, even chicks. I do notice they like a lean
midsection, but I don't think having some extra muscle really makes a difference between
getting laid or not.
Really? There is a part of me that does not quite believe you. One does not have to be a fan of bodybuilding to know about Chippendale dancers, for example. Why do you think those guys and other who perform at bachelorette parties are so buff? It is certainly not because they are professional athletes. They are trying to gratify their audiences by showing off their muscular physiques. Something very similar happens in professional bodybuilding though the emphasis is less explicit. Even so, bodybuilding has always had competitors who performed offstate in explicitly sexual avenues like musclegallery.com, Jimmy’s muscle jams, private posing, etc.
Some (male) competitors are surprisingly sexual when competing on the pro stage: humping the floor, doing the splits, etc. If you have seen this, even in passing, then you knew that people trained for sexual reasons. You may not have wanted to know so you declined to connect… the… dots… but on some level you knew. http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248135.0
For future reference, any time you see a muscular man with his shirt off outside of an appropriate venue (the beach, the locker room, etc.) he is trading on his sexuality. By the way, women do this all the time, but it has become so normalized in our culture that people do not even notice it anymore. Have you ever noticed how often women’s clothing (a gown, dress, sweater, blouse, etc.) is cut with a plunging neckline? Why do you think that is? It is so that the breasts can be pressed together and offered forth for explicit viewing the bosom. See here for more on this http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=415687.0
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lol i know it but i dont want to believe it lmao, i can understand flexing on cam, even shoving beads up your ass on cam... but man, i couldn't imagine big ron bent over and getting anal-ed by some schmoe and screaming out " ain't nuttin but a peanut!"
Haney, Yates and Ronnie did not bend over for anyone.
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Haney, Yates and Ronnie did not bend over for anyone.
Wishfull thinking.
I would guess that you can't become Mr O without eating a lot of sperm.
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Haney, Yates and Ronnie did not bend over for anyone.
Maybe not, but they all posed in decidedly gay photo shoots—whether they realized it or not. Add Cutler to the list.
Serious question:
How in the fuck do you agree (if you're Cutler) with a shot like the one below? Was it taken for a bbing mag? If so, most of the readers are men, so I fail to see the appeal in taking such a shot for a man's muscle mag (unless of course the readers are gay).
Was it taken for a "playgirl" like mag, that supposedly appeals to women? That I could understand......
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=209016.0;attach=243939;image)
I guess it's just me, but I wonder how something like that goes down, and someone like Jay agrees to it.
Schmoe Photographer: Okay Jay, for our next shoot, we'll need you to slip into these tiny daisy dukes. Our readers really seem to enjoy that look....
Jay: Okay....as long as our "readers" like it....
Schmoe Photographer: Also, I need you lo leave them unbuttoned, so as to making it look like your removing them......
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Why would you believe that? You have no proof! :D
No, but it does mean you are engaging in gay behavior. Aspiring to show off your body to a room full of men while wearing a thong is not a heterosexual ambition. :-*
You are wrong, there are also a lot of women at bodybuilding shows but for some reason you choose to ignore that, gay guys also go to mma and boxing show because those guys are showing off their bodies also, does that make it a gay sport no, so being a bodybuilder or mma fighter or boxer is a heterosexual ambition like anything else.
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You are wrong, there are also a lot of women at bodybuilding shows but for some reason you choose to ignore that, gay guys also go to mma and boxing show because those guys are showing off their bodies also, does that make it a gay sport no, so being a bodybuilder or mma fighter or boxer is a heterosexual ambition like anything else.
Tell that to your gf the next time to you sit down to watch a muscle gallery video or flexing shredded glutes at a BB show. Maybe she will believe you. :-*
"This is a heterosexual ambition." I'm sure that is what Gunter was thinking when he posed and flexed in his daisy dukes.
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Tell that to your gf the next time to you sit down to watch a muscle gallery video or flexing shredded glutes at a BB show. Maybe she will believe you. :-*
"This is a heterosexual ambition." I'm sure that is what Gunter was thinking when he posed and flexed in his daisy dukes.
For some odd reason,I watched this video and did not become sexually aroused........Oh my God,I must be straight. ;D
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For some odd reason,I watched this video and did not become sexually aroused........Oh my God,I must be straight. ;D
Presumably you knew that before you watched the video. ;)
But riddle me this: what is the "agenda" of a man who makes a video like that wearing daisy dukes? ::)
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Presumably you knew that before you watched the video. ;)
But riddle me this: what is the "agenda" of a man who makes a video like that wearing daisy dukes? ::)
Well,I honestly do see your point,and can offer no retort......definately tailored for the gay or gay-curious crowd.
I agree on a lot of your points,but Steve Reeves was a straight man dammit!!!! :'(
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Well,I honestly do see your point,and can offer no retort......definately tailored for the gay or gay-curious crowd.
I agree on a lot of your points,but Steve Reeves was a straight man dammit!!!! :'(
Your Honor, the prosecution rests. ;D
Seriously, what I find amusing about this is that the people doing the muscle-for-sex or muscle-for-titillation are not anonymous wannabes. In many cases, they are the well-known competitors we are all familiar with so it is not as if the official bodybuilding world can say those are minor rogue agents that have nothing to do with our wholesome sport.
Doz, Nasser, Haney, Cutler, Gunter, J. Jackson, Paco B., C. Titus, K. Green, etc. ALL of them have either made lusty videos, sold articles of clothing, private posed, or posed in curiously gay themed photo shoots in daisy dukes. In other words, this activity is not marginal; it lies at the core of pro bodybuilding. That is true today, it was true when Reeves was on the scene, and it was true when Sandow himself was flexing.
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"It's only gay if you want it to be" really does apply to bodybuilding. It can be seen as a sport and completely hetero activity or if you're gay, you see it in a sexual nature. I can tell you from attending many pro shows that it is not a 99% male audience filled with gays, contrary to Getbig hyperbole.
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Bay is now trying to imply that because many bodybuilders do certain poses for photos which appeal to gays that their motivation to get big and their motivation to compete onstage are both to to sexually impress men! Bay if you can't logically see the difference then you are beyond retarded.
Here's a question - how about female bodybuilding competitors, or even female fitness/figure competitors, most of which are still too muscular for most men's sexual preference. Why do they work out and compete? Which gender are they trying impress? Do you get the point? Not everything we do is motivated by sex.
I wouldn't be surprised if a sicko like yourself still can't see beyond this.
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Oh. Forgot to mention. Bowers also talks about (male) BB'ing spectators pleasuring themselves while watching competitions.
I should emphasize that Bowers' Reeves and BBing references take up less than a page of this book. His book's focus is on Hollywood and celebrity, not bodybuilding.
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Since most women aren't attracted to massive bodybuilders, the only reason they would put in effort to look that way because they are gay and want to attract gay men! -- that's the whole foundation of Bay's argument. Logic at its finest lol
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Oh. Forgot to mention. Bowers also talks about (male) BB'ing spectators pleasuring themselves while watching competitions.
I should emphasize that Bowers' Reeves and BBing references take up less than a page of this book. His book's focus is on Hollywood and celebrity, not bodybuilding.
I regret to say that I saw this happening in the audience at a bodybuilding show during the posedown. :-[
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There are gay men who love the muscle
and its not like bbers don't enjoy that sort of attention... I mean who wouldn't even if its not respectable at times...
Why should straight men be repulsed by homosexual orientated attention? In fact motivated by it? Despite being sexually attracted to women...
Just a thought... afterall a major motivating part in bbing is about attention
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Bay is now trying to imply that because many bodybuilders do certain poses for photos which appeal to gays that their motivation to get big and their motivation to compete onstage are both to to sexually impress men! Bay if you can't logically see the difference then you are beyond retarded.
Here's a question - how about female bodybuilding competitors, or even female fitness/figure competitors, most of which are still too muscular for most men's sexual preference. Why do they work out and compete? Which gender are they trying impress? Do you get the point? Not everything we do is motivated by sex.
I wouldn't be surprised if a sicko like yourself still can't see beyond this.
I agree he can't see bodybuilding through anything but gay eyes and anyone who doesn't see what he does is in denial or willingly participating in gay activities ::)
He has a point , some guys do what he claims but he loves to lump everyone together , everyone is complicit in one way shape or another and it's simply not true.
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I agree he can't see bodybuilding through anything but gay eyes and anyone who doesn't see what he does is in denial or willingly participating in gay activities ::)
He has a point , some guys do what he claims but he loves to lump everyone together , everyone is complicit in one way shape or another and it's simply not true.
At times I wonder if he honestly believes what he spews or if he's trolling.
Anyway Bay can you take a swing at my question I posted to you earlier, "how about female bodybuilding competitors, or even female fitness/figure competitors, most of which are still too muscular for most men's sexual preference. Why do they work out and compete? Which gender are they trying impress? Do you get the point? Not everything we do is motivated by sex.
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As a kid I use to read comics and magazines and watch cartoons and I was impress by the big muscular super heroes and bodybuilders and I said to myself I want to lift weights to look like that,and as I grew up i liked the feeling of being bigger and stronger than the average guy. when I look at bodybuilder pictures or go to bodybuilding shows i feel amazed and sometimes shocked by how far some bodybuilders like ronnie coleman are able to take their physiques but I have never felt sexually aroused.
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G4P? Does that mean Gain for Pain, similar to No Pain, No Gain? ;D
I think it is unfair to apply 21st century (im)morals to mid-twentieth century morals. While I am sure that G4P is rampant in bodybuilding currently, I doubt it was prevalent before the 60's. Reeves definitely posed for "cheesecake" photos; the evidence is there. There is no proof, anecdotal or otherwise, that Reeves did any sort of G4P, so to speculate so blatantly is a dishonor to his memory. If Reeves was still alive, such talk would be slander and he'd be within his rights to sue for defamation of character.
So if someone was to call a known homosexual a heterosexual, they too could sue for defamation of character?
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Bay is now trying to imply that because many bodybuilders do certain poses for photos which appeal to gays that their motivation to get big and their motivation to compete onstage are both to to sexually impress men! Bay if you can't logically see the difference then you are beyond retarded.
Here's a question - how about female bodybuilding competitors, or even female fitness/figure competitors, most of which are still too muscular for most men's sexual preference. Why do they work out and compete? Which gender are they trying impress? Do you get the point? Not everything we do is motivated by sex.
I wouldn't be surprised if a sicko like yourself still can't see beyond this.
Bro, women who take male hormones and lift weights are a confused bunch. And don't kid yourself, they certainly cater to the lesbo side of the cult. Not to mention the creepy schmo side. Hell the women aren't even trying to hide it anymore. They're all doing schmo cams etc...And as far as the fitness/figure competitors, these women were brought into the cult for the simple reason of $$$
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Bay is now trying to imply that because many bodybuilders do certain poses for photos which appeal to gays that their motivation to get big and their motivation to compete onstage are both to to sexually impress men! Bay if you can't logically see the difference then you are beyond retarded.
Here's a question - how about female bodybuilding competitors, or even female fitness/figure competitors, most of which are still too muscular for most men's sexual preference. Why do they work out and compete? Which gender are they trying impress? Do you get the point? Not everything we do is motivated by sex.
I wouldn't be surprised if a sicko like yourself still can't see beyond this.
Religion of peace. ;D
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At times I wonder if he honestly believes what he spews or if he's trolling.
Anyway Bay can you take a swing at my question I posted to you earlier, "how about female bodybuilding competitors, or even female fitness/figure competitors, most of which are still too muscular for most men's sexual preference. Why do they work out and compete? Which gender are they trying impress? Do you get the point? Not everything we do is motivated by sex.
He's not a troll , he truly believes it.
He wants everyone to be gay
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He's not a troll , he truly believes it.
He wants everyone to be gay
Isn't that a typical homosexual male fantasy, to want to believe that all males are either gay or bisexual?
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Probably because the whole purpose of bodybuilding is to show off your body--to other men. Men who view this as a worthwhile hobby/profession and the men who want to watch the results of this endeavor tend to be men who like men. They may not self identify as gay, but if it walks like a duck, wears a thong like a duck, roids up like a duck, and private poses like a duck… well, you do the math. ::)
Thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I like bodybuilding. I'm not gay. If I watch a "Battle for the olympia" video, i'm not staring at the dudes cock. Not everyone is gay.
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Oh. Forgot to mention. Bowers also talks about (male) BB'ing spectators pleasuring themselves while watching competitions.
I should emphasize that Bowers' Reeves and BBing references take up less than a page of this book. His book's focus is on Hollywood and celebrity, not bodybuilding.
<* throws more gasoline on the fire much to Bays delight *> ;D
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No, but it does mean you are engaging in gay behavior. Aspiring to show off your body to a room full of men while wearing a thong is not a heterosexual ambition. :-*
No,
Competition is an activity to compete and test yourself against your peers
What the audience is thinking is beyond the competitors control
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Isn't that a typical homosexual male fantasy, to want to believe that all males are either gay or bisexual?
I'm not sure seeing as I'm not homosexual but it certainly seems so according to him. He has a point about some pros and amateurs engaging in this type of behavior but no one is straight according to his logic which is just silly
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<* throws more gasoline on the fire much to Bays delight *> ;D
Hehe. No. Just trying to be honest to the 'source,1'eh. Look, I don't give a shit what people do in their bedrooms. Really. It's none of my business, at all. We live a short life, on a rock, third from the sun --- enjoy. :)
1Bowers, Scotty. Full Service, 2012.
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<* throws more gasoline on the fire much to Bays delight *> ;D
The case has gone to the jury. ;D
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The case has gone to the jury. ;D
Thank a Christian-ass Christ Reeves is White. ;D
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Bay is now trying to imply that because many bodybuilders do certain poses for photos which appeal to gays that their motivation to get big and their motivation to compete onstage are both to to sexually impress men! Bay if you can't logically see the difference then you are beyond retarded.
Here's a question - how about female bodybuilding competitors, or even female fitness/figure competitors, most of which are still too muscular for most men's sexual preference. Why do they work out and compete? Which gender are they trying impress? Do you get the point? Not everything we do is motivated by sex.
I wouldn't be surprised if a sicko like yourself still can't see beyond this.
why do you think womens BBing is all but dead?
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Hehe. No. Just trying to be honest to the 'source,1'eh. Look, I don't give a shit what people do in their bedrooms. Really. It's none of my business, at all. We live a short life, on a rock, third from the sun --- enjoy. :)
1Bowers, Scotty. Full Service, 2012.
I'm with you what two consenting adults do in the bedroom is none of my or anyone else's business but Bay has this odd notion of lumping everyone together he seems to bright for that.
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The case has gone to the jury. ;D
No the jury already made up it's mind before hearing the evidence
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why do you think womens BBing is all but dead?
How does that answer my question at all? Lack of interest in woman's bodybuilding has zero to do with the question of what motivates female bodybuilders (as well as fitness and figure competitors) to take up the "sport"
Funny Bay is dodging this question too, because using the faulty logic he applies to male bodybuilders he would have to find a sexual motivation for female bodybuilders/fitness/and figure competitors to gain more muscle than what most men find sexually attractive. And guess what - there is none.
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How does that answer my question at all? Lack of interest in woman's bodybuilding has zero to do with the question of what motivates female bodybuilders (as well as fitness and figure competitors) to take up the "sport"
Funny Bay is dodging this question too, because using the faulty logic he applies to male bodybuilders he would have to find a sexual motivation for female bodybuilders/fitness/and figure competitors to gain more muscle than what most men find sexually attractive. And guess what - there is none.
Why do bulldyke's do everything possible to look more masculine and butch, when 99% of people are attracted to femininity?
The angle is that female bodybuilders find it gratifying to be physically powerful and to recieve attention from a certain group of fans, however small that may be.
Your personality dictates this, however popularistic it may or may not be.
Male bodybuilders are the same, they derive pleasure from the perception of power that being muscular grants them and enjoy the adulation from the fanbase. That would be indicative of a flexible sexuality at the least.
Bearing in mind sexuality isn't as straight forward as penetration or dom/sub. Lot's of dfferent variance's out there.
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Why do bulldyke's do everything possible to look more masculine and butch, when 99% of people are attracted to femininity?
The angle is that female bodybuilders find it gratifying to be physically powerful and to recieve attention from a certain group of fans, however small that may be.
Your personality dictates this, however popularistic it may or may not be.
Male bodybuilders are the same, they derive pleasure from the perception of power that being muscular grants them and enjoy the adulation from the fanbase. That would be indicative of a flexible sexuality at the least.
Your post was correct until you hit the part I bolded. Attention does motivate bodybuilders, but does not need to be sexual, in fact most of the times the attention is non-sexual. For example, straight bodybuilders who feel good inside even at hearing "negative attention" like others calling them freaks, too big, too vascular, unattractive, etc. Lots of non-sexual motivation.
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Your post was correct until you hit the part I bolded. Attention does motivate bodybuilders, but does not need to be sexual, in fact most of the times the attention is non-sexual. For example, straight bodybuilders who feel good inside even at hearing "negative attention" like others calling them freaks, too big, too vascular, unattractive, etc. Lots of non-sexual motivation.
Well, that's correct too. :) It's why i disagree with Bay. Gay guys are generally hypersexual, this is how Bay sees the world, he sexualises everything.
I see it more as them being amoral, they just don't give a fuck, anything to get ahead. In a similar vein to Actors, popstars, models and the like.
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Well, that's correct too. :) It's why i disagree with Bay. Gay guys are generally hypersexual, this is how Bay sees the world, he sexualises everything.
I see it more as them being amoral, they just don't give a fuck, anything to get ahead. In a similar vein to Actors, popstars, models and the like.
ah I misunderstood you, my bad.
Yes just like ND said there are some gays among competitive bb's as well as in the crowd, but to say all or even most are gay is just ridiculous.
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Here is a link to Bower's book on Google Books: http://snurl.com/fullservice (http://snurl.com/fullservice). Did a search in the book for Reeves and don't get any hits. Unfortunately, can't see page 189, the page that supposedly says Bowers tricked out Reeves to Cukor.
I think the LA times reviewer hits it on the head...says that the book should be called "Forrest Hump", since Bowers name drops just about every Hollywood star from the 40's, 50's and 60's. (Bower even claims to have met J. Edgar Hoover and John Holmes.) http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/14/entertainment/la-et-0214-book-20120214 (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/14/entertainment/la-et-0214-book-20120214) Sounds like someone making up a fictitious story of tabloid trash than an actual non-fiction, autobiographical account.
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Here is a link to Bower's book on Google Books: http://snurl.com/fullservice (http://snurl.com/fullservice). Did a search in the book for Reeves and don't get any hits. Unfortunately, can't see page 189, the page that supposedly says Bowers tricked out Reeves to Cukor.
I think the LA times reviewer hits it on the head...says that the book should be called "Forrest Hump", since Bowers name drops just about every Hollywood star from the 40's, 50's and 60's. (Bower even claims to have met J. Edgar Hoover and John Holmes.) http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/14/entertainment/la-et-0214-book-20120214 (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/14/entertainment/la-et-0214-book-20120214) Sounds like someone making up a fictitious story of tabloid trash than an actual non-fiction, autobiographical account.
so he says he was a pimped?
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Took a gander at Scotty Bowers' just released memoir, 'Full Service,' detailing his many years as a Hollywood fixer/pimp. There was no index, so I couldn't look up actors and page nos, so I rifled the pics. Well, I find a pic of Steve Reeves, who Bowers notes like many BBers, wasn't gay, but frequently rented himself out for money. Bowers specifically mentions tricking out Reeves to George Cukor. And away we go.....
Just read this book, he specifically mentions reeves as you said, not being gay but tricking himself to George Cukor because he was short of money....
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(http://www.nndb.com/people/373/000041250/george-cukor.jpg)
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Here is a link to Bower's book on Google Books: http://snurl.com/fullservice (http://snurl.com/fullservice). Did a search in the book for Reeves and don't get any hits. Unfortunately, can't see page 189, the page that supposedly says Bowers tricked out Reeves to Cukor.
I think the LA times reviewer hits it on the head...says that the book should be called "Forrest Hump", since Bowers name drops just about every Hollywood star from the 40's, 50's and 60's. (Bower even claims to have met J. Edgar Hoover and John Holmes.) http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/14/entertainment/la-et-0214-book-20120214 (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/14/entertainment/la-et-0214-book-20120214) Sounds like someone making up a fictitious story of tabloid trash than an actual non-fiction, autobiographical account.
I thought this, did my research, everyone who is still alive backs up what Bowers said, also saying Bowers is one of the most honest people they met, and if he said it, then they had no doubt its true, Gore Vidal being among them.
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Here is a link to Bower's book on Google Books: http://snurl.com/fullservice (http://snurl.com/fullservice). Did a search in the book for Reeves and don't get any hits. Unfortunately, can't see page 189, the page that supposedly says Bowers tricked out Reeves to Cukor.
I think the LA times reviewer hits it on the head...says that the book should be called "Forrest Hump", since Bowers name drops just about every Hollywood star from the 40's, 50's and 60's. (Bower even claims to have met J. Edgar Hoover and John Holmes.) http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/14/entertainment/la-et-0214-book-20120214 (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/14/entertainment/la-et-0214-book-20120214) Sounds like someone making up a fictitious story of tabloid trash than an actual non-fiction, autobiographical account.
Ill type up the passage...
"One of the better known bodybuilders at the time was Steve Reeves, but there were many others.I once sent Steve Reeves over to George Cukor as a trick.Steve was a little hard up at the time and did it purely for the cash"
He then talks about how the gay guys would watch the musclemen in Venice beach while jerking off before going on to talk about how Mae West fell for Paul Novak, became massively possesive of him and essentially ruined his life.
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What people do for money
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Some other funny bits, Hunchback of Notre Dame star like to have men shit in a bowl, then he would spread it in a sandwich and eat it.Tyrone Power like to piss and shit and be shit on by men and women.Perry Mason like the cock, as did James Dean, Montogomery Clift and hundreds of others.Kathrine Hepburn was a lesbian and he set her up with over 150 women.Spencer Tracey liked long nights of passionate sex with men.
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a gay man is any man who is beter looking than you
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There are some persons in this world, who, unable to give better proof of being wise, take a strange delight in showing what they think they have sagaciously read in mankind by uncharitable suspicions of them. - Herman Melville
Steve Reeves loved women and rest assured that women loved Steve Reeves.
There is no real, undeniable proof on these boards of Reeves being homosexual or even that of having homosexual relations for monetary gain save that of the apparently resident Dairy Queen on these boards aka, "Bay" shouting from the flophouse rooftops that Steve Reeves was homosexual. Now if we couple that sordid proof with the smega filled book by Bowers we are expected to believe that Reeves (and by association any man with a good build) is homosexual and willing to sell himself to other more affluent homosexuals.
If that is proof of anything it is most assuredly proof that a pathetic little man-child, aka, "Bay", wants everyone to be as pathetic as he.
There are homosexul men that are men of good character but this quisling to decency is not among them.
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he sold his asshole for money? :-X
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Reeves was a muscular saint, that would never have done such ungodly things, he had too much character
Plus it was pre-information age, so no proof, so it never happenned
yes..and slavery didn't happen either due to it supposedly happening during the pre-information age
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There are some persons in this world, who, unable to give better proof of being wise, take a strange delight in showing what they think they have sagaciously read in mankind by uncharitable suspicions of them. - Herman Melville
Steve Reeves loved women and rest assured that women loved Steve Reeves.
There is no real, undeniable proof on these boards of Reeves being homosexual or even that of having homosexual relations for monetary gain save that of the apparently resident Dairy Queen on these boards aka, "Bay" shouting from the flophouse rooftops that Steve Reeves was homosexual. Now if we couple that sordid proof with the smega filled book by Bowers we are expected to believe that Reeves (and by association any man with a good build) is homosexual and willing to sell himself to other more affluent homosexuals.
If that is proof of anything it is most assuredly proof that a pathetic little man-child, aka, "Bay", wants everyone to be as pathetic as he.
There are homosexul men that are men of good character but this quisling to decency is not among them.
A fine post
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The training, eating, drugs etc. is not soley in order to flex to an audience. It's a preferred look the individual has and is willing to do a lot to obtain it. Not everything we do has sexual motives. Sometimes I wear clothes for example that my wife doesn't like or I know women in general don't like, but it's just a look I prefer so I do it...not everything we do is in order to attract someone sexually.
As for the second part, competing, most do it just out of a sense of competitiveness, to see where they stand against others who are pursuing a muscular physique, or in extreme cases as in the top few in the world it's done even to earn an income. Again, doesn't have to be sexual in any way. I bet less than 10% of competitive boybuilders are motivated to compete in order to impress any gender or get laid.
You really find it difficult thinking outside of the sexual-box huh? :-\
This.
I don't lift weights for anyone...man or woman. I do it for me. and if I were to compete, i would do that for myself as well.To see what i can accomplish with my physique. Who was in the fucking audience wouldn't enter my mind...WINNING would enter my mind.
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Yeah,but Reeves had movie star good looks as well as a great physique....it`s not impossible that someone spotted him and wanted him in their flicks based on this alone.
I`m not naieve` and maybe he was gay/bi or put out for the roles he got,but I`d need more proof than this book to convince me of that.
Reeves is from a time when there really was a gay cabal in Hollywood...all of the guys from that time in the 50's were gay...Rock Hudson...Cary Grant....Tyrone Powell..... and that guy who was in "Rebel without a Cause"..I read a book by a powerful agent who found Rock Hudson and he stated that during that time, the emphasis was on finding actors and that actresses were basically marginalized due to the gay activity going on at the studios....the heads of the movie studios used the casting couch for male actors just as they had done in the past with female actresses
its not inconceivable that Reeves put out for these movie moguls....not saying he was a bottom.....and a lot of guys who did that sort of thing were not gay...they gritted their teeth and did what they had to do..unlike Bay, who wants everyone to be gay, I believe that guys will suck it up (literally) and do what they have to do for the paycheck and fame....doesn't mean they are gay...just like the guys in prison who engage in sex are mostly not gay..just horny and want to get off
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Probably because the whole purpose of bodybuilding is to show off your body--to other men. Men who view this as a worthwhile hobby/profession and the men who want to watch the results of this endeavor tend to be men who like men. They may not self identify as gay, but...
The quote has probably more truth than what is comfortable for Getbiggers to accept. The general public, family, and friends all consider competitive bodybuilding suspect. It is narcissistic, maybe gay, makes you musclebound, and is probably practiced by dumbbells. Those of us who fancy women and never men would be oblivious of our motivation to show off on stage in front of a largely male audience. We cut photos of champions out and put them up on walls to motivate us. Never was there any hint that this might be a gay thing. We felt otherwise, that it was how one became a he-man. If you looked big and strong then you were a super man. Back in the day homosexuality was considered a mental illness so there was a stigma then that lingers today. It was believed that gay guys were produced by single mothers who coddled their sons. Effeminate boys became gay men. That isn't exactly what the reality was but that is what psychologists more of less believed. Today we know that all kinds and types of men can be homosexual, not just the feminine types. We learn that gayness is an innate wiring and upbringing has little to do with the orientation.
No one knows what lies in our brains at the unconscious level. What we do know is that Getbiggers fear gayness more than anything else. They accuse others of being gay and this is a huge putdown to most. We would rather die than be gay! From this thread it appears that most of the Flotsam here are not at all gay or sympathetic to them.
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You are wrong, there are also a lot of women at bodybuilding shows but for some reason you choose to ignore that, gay guys also go to mma and boxing show because those guys are showing off their bodies also, does that make it a gay sport no, so being a bodybuilder or mma fighter or boxer is a heterosexual ambition like anything else.
Fact: 90% of mma fighters make GAY PORN. The purses that are said to be paid to them....not even close. You all are in denial, and it is so sad.....
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The general public, family, and friends all consider competitive bodybuilding suspect. It is narcissistic, maybe gay, makes you musclebound, and is probably practiced by dumbbells. Those of us who fancy women and never men would be oblivious of our motivation to show off on stage in front of a largely male audience. We cut photos of champions out and put them up on walls to motivate us. Never was there any hint that this might be a gay thing. We felt otherwise, that it was how one became a he-man. If you looked big and strong then you were a super man.
That's a view I share (no homo)
Great post mr Basile
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Took a gander at Scotty Bowers' just released memoir, 'Full Service,' detailing his many years as a Hollywood fixer/pimp. There was no index, so I couldn't look up actors and page nos, so I rifled the pics. Well, I find a pic of Steve Reeves, who Bowers notes like many BBers, wasn't gay, but frequently rented himself out for money. Bowers specifically mentions tricking out Reeves to George Cukor. And away we go.....
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The quote has probably more truth than what is comfortable for Getbiggers to accept. The general public, family, and friends all consider competitive bodybuilding suspect. It is narcissistic, maybe gay, makes you musclebound, and is probably practiced by dumbbells. Those of us who fancy women and never men would be oblivious of our motivation to show off on stage in front of a largely male audience. We cut photos of champions out and put them up on walls to motivate us. Never was there any hint that this might be a gay thing. We felt otherwise, that it was how one became a he-man. If you looked big and strong then you were a super man. Back in the day homosexuality was considered a mental illness so there was a stigma then that lingers today. It was believed that gay guys were produced by single mothers who coddled their sons. Effeminate boys became gay men. That isn't exactly what the reality was but that is what psychologists more of less believed. Today we know that all kinds and types of men can be homosexual, not just the feminine types. We learn that gayness is an innate wiring and upbringing has little to do with the orientation.
No one knows what lies in our brains at the unconscious level. What we do know is that Getbiggers fear gayness more than anything else. They accuse others of being gay and this is a huge putdown to most. We would rather die than be gay! From this thread it appears that most of the Flotsam here are not at all gay or sympathetic to them.
Good post!
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Most guys who are homophobic probably fear they might be closet-homosexuals so they need to detract attention.
Just like that one guy in the movie 'American Beauty'.
If one has nothing to fear then who cares how someone else lives their life?
Anyway, it's only the minority that are the annoying camp types, however because these types are the most obvious and visible so they are what people consider as being a homosexual.
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Ill type up the passage...
"One of the better known bodybuilders at the time was Steve Reeves, but there were many others.I once sent Steve Reeves over to George Cukor as a trick.Steve was a little hard up at the time and did it purely for the cash"
Maybe Reeves did a private posing session? That he went up to Cukors house does not necessarily mean he had sex with him I think.
With regards to Arnold: for B and C list actors and Builders g4p activities were more of an necessity than for top list people like Steve or Arnold? If you belong to the top three of your sport or line of work, you will probably get offers instead of having to beg and ask for things. They usually are in a much stronger position I think.
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This.
I don't lift weights for anyone...man or woman. I do it for me. and if I were to compete, i would do that for myself as well.To see what i can accomplish with my physique. Who was in the fucking audience wouldn't enter my mind...WINNING would enter my mind.
And that, is how a man thinks.
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It seems to be a theme among gay guys to say a dead famous person was secretly gay. There is never any real proof and the dead person can't defend themself.
Just like Hoover from the FBI has been labeled as being gay when there is no proof except for a movie script.
Yeah you are right. Common in the publishing world. Twisted minds.
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Yeah you are right. Common in the publishing world. Twisted minds.
To be fair tho, straights people love to call powerful and/or famous people gay too.
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have to go with skyle on this one... reeves most likely, that is most VERY likely,.. did some posing in posing trunks and perhaps at most let cukor cop a feel of his bicep... very doubtful a single sex act occured....i read elsewhere that reeves and other bbers of that era "supposedly" were invited gueststo the rich and powerful of gay hollywood at parties.. once again, i'm sure it was to be ogled at and maybe at the very most allowed a copped feel of a flex bicep...
cukor it seems was a 'tattletale"....... i'm sure would have told anyone and everyone in the inner circle of gay hollywood or even those NOT in that circle how he "HAD" mr. hercules... and he never did because it NEVER came known before this book.and of course THIS IS IF EVEN ANY OF THIS EVER IN FACT HAPPENED A MEETING OF REEVES AND CUKOR.....from what i have read in previous bios of reeves, he was always working doing some kind of job before he started in movies.. highly doubtful to the extreme he would have been soooo broke and destitute that he would have even THOUGHT of finding this gay pimp and then allowing himself to be tricked out to anyone!
reeves seems to have been such a man of HUGE integrity that he wouldn't have made hercules and become a huge action star from that movies and his other movies that followed if he himself KNEW and was worried that CUKOR would blab... he would just have sooner NOT have had a film career at all... he retired at a relatively young age and said that actually he never liked making movies or acting that much in the first place... he find it both boring and too stressful....so all this makes it highly suspect he would have allowed himself to seek favors from cukor or the hollywood gay power elite at the time to have a film career.
yep, once again a dead celebrity who can't defend themselves..
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Looks like John C Grimek needs to step in.
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Obvious troll. 2/10 for the hullabaloo. ;D
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Is it true that certain well known 1950's and 60's bodybuilders are horribly exposed in this book? Apparently Scotty Bower was a kinda pimp for film stars and matched them up with gay and lesbian (or glass table shittin) partners depending on their fetish.
Steve Reeves is apparently mentioned but was he a star requiring gay company or was he the gay company for the bigger stars? Looks like almost every male and female star was a sexual deviant in the 1950's. Guess it started with fatty Arbuckle in the 1930's when he dildoed a prostitute to death with a large icicle. Makes todays stars seem tame by comparison
Anyone read the book?
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On IA as soon as Reeves' name was mentioned, thread was locked
Like the Bob Birdsong thread, a big circle-jerk with everyone tip-toeing around the fact he sucked cock for a living and was a rec drug addict
Nothing wrong with having bbing idols or looking up to physical achievements of the great bbers of yesteryear, but they're just people
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Dildoed to death by an icicle? Wow.
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On IA as soon as Reeves' name was mentioned, thread was locked
Like the Bob Birdsong thread, a big circle-jerk with everyone tip-toeing around the fact he sucked cock for a living and was a rec drug addict
Nothing wrong with having bbing idols or looking up to physical achievements of the great bbers of yesteryear, but they're just people
Yep, I once asked some questions there about Draper...long story short I donìt post there since 8 or 9 years
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Is it true that certain well known 1950's and 60's bodybuilders are horribly exposed in this book?
Apparently Scotty Bower was a kinda pimp for film stars and matched them up with gay and lesbian (or glass table shittin) partners depending on their fetish.
Steve Reeves is apparently mentioned but was he a star requiring gay company or was he the gay company for the bigger stars?
Looks like almost every male and female star was a sexual deviant in the 1950's.
Guess it started with fatty Arbuckle in the 1930's when he dildoed a prostitute to death with a large icicle. Makes todays stars seem tame by comparison
Anyone read the book?
was fatty Arbuckle a jew?
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Steve was born in a time where the thought of sucking another mans cock or having him cum over your ass cheeks was seen as a severe character flaw and something that only girly men indulged in. Now as i am sure you all know, Steve did not possess any character flaws and was pretty much the most masculine man that ever lived. Therefore it's safe to assume that there is an inherent design mechanism of the universe that renders it impossible for Steve Reeves to partake in homosexual behavior.
It was also impossible that Steve or any other ironager could have used steroids, Steve's genetics were so good and his work ethic so pronounced that he would have seen it as a rebellion against god to take such a short cut.
Posing in your underpants all oiled up in front of a room full of men was seen as extremely manly behavior in the 50's but due to a conspiracy involving the vatican, Kate middleton's breasts and our very own reptilian hybrid known as Sev, attitudes changed, try not to apply modern day values to Steve's exhibitionism, it was seen as extremely heterosexual back in the old days.
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Steve was born in a time where the thought of sucking another mans cock or having him cum over your ass cheeks was seen as a severe character flaw and something that only girly men indulged in. Now as i am sure you all know, Steve did not possess any character flaws and was pretty much the most masculine man that ever lived. Therefore it's safe to assume that there is an inherent design mechanism of the universe that renders it impossible for Steve Reeves to partake in homosexual behavior.
It was also impossible that Steve or any other ironager could have used steroids, Steve's genetics were so good and his work ethic so pronounced that he would have seen it as a rebellion against god to take such a short cut.
Posing in your underpants all oiled up in front of a room full of men was seen as extremely manly behavior in the 50's but due to a conspiracy involving the vatican, Kate middleton's breasts and our very own reptilian hybrid known as Sev, attitudes changed, try not to apply modern day values to Steve's exhibitionism, it was seen as extremely heterosexual back in the old days.
Spot on
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Is it true that certain well known 1950's and 60's bodybuilders are horribly exposed in this book?
Apparently Scotty Bower was a kinda pimp for film stars and matched them up with gay and lesbian (or glass table shittin) partners depending on their fetish.
Steve Reeves is apparently mentioned but was he a star requiring gay company or was he the gay company for the bigger stars?
Looks like almost every male and female star was a sexual deviant in the 1950's.
Guess it started with fatty Arbuckle in the 1930's when he dildoed a prostitute to death with a large icicle. Makes todays stars seem tame by comparison
Anyone read the book?
Tell you what "champ". How about bring this thread over to IronAge where people actually know a thing or two about the history of bodybuilding and see how this goes over. Much like Jimmy Thompson was, you're an idiot with very little to offer.
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Tell you what "champ". How about bring this thread over to IronAge where people actually know a thing or two about the history of bodybuilding and see how this goes over. Much like Jimmy Thompson was, you're an idiot with very little to offer.
Can you spell naive? Anybody that has actually moved in similar circles knows the score.
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(or glass table shittin) partners
I've always wondered.... In what year did the first person crap on a glass table?
And is the freaky part to be the one squatting over the table? Or laying under it watching a chick crap on you?
Oh, and who has to do the cleanup?
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I've always wondered.... In what year did the first person crap on a glass table?
And is the freaky part to be the one squatting over the table? Or laying under it watching a chick crap on you?
Oh, and who has to do the cleanup?
The year that glass was invented.
Both are of equal freakyness.
Booty.
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Tell you what "champ". How about bring this thread over to IronAge where people actually know a thing or two about the history of bodybuilding and see how this goes over. Much like Jimmy Thompson was, you're an idiot with very little to offer.
It was on IA.
Locked within 3 posts as soon as a sniff of a blemish on reeves' name was mentioned
People prefer to bury their heads in the sand there. I suppose its easier than lying
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It was on IA.
Locked within 3 posts as soon as a sniff of a blemish on reeves' name was mentioned
People prefer to bury their heads in the sand there. I suppose its easier than lying
It's true, those guys are tight over there about any little thing. I think that might of been why Spague left. He was a cool guy, but I think all the hero worship got to him.
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It's true, those guys are tight over there about any little thing. I think that might of been why Spague left. He was a cool guy, but I think all the hero worship got to him.
Baldwin used to post up over there, right?
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Baldwin used to post up over there, right?
Yeah, I think he still might.
There seems to be a lot of infighting sometimes between the old guard and some of the other guys. Some fellows have mellowed a bit on what can be spoken about, but there are still a lot of fellows who hate any talk about the darkside. And then there are the guys that will allow negative talk about other bodybuilders except their favorites, that allows makes me laugh.
Really good powerlifting forum there though.
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so old dead bbers sucked dick for money. who cares, and why insult or implicate them after their death, like a bitch?
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It's true, those guys are tight over there about any little thing. I think that might of been why Spague left. He was a cool guy, but I think all the hero worship got to him.
Iron Age is the most boring forum full of fuck ups like Bob fat fuck Scalise... They lick each others arses and they kick you off if your opinion does not fit their "insider club"... ::) I get my Jollies here... ;D
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Tell you what "champ". How about bring this thread over to IronAge where people actually know a thing or two about the history of bodybuilding and see how this goes over. Much like Jimmy Thompson was, you're an idiot with very little to offer.
Its a fuckin book you cheeky girl. I didnt write it not did Jimmy Thomson. Don't worry, i'm sure a little man like you is not named in it.
Just because you are reminded of the time Jimmy Thomson outed you as one of Bill Pearl's posing boys who was forced to wear his used posing trunks is no reason for you to turn your venom and born again christian guilt on me. Get over your past and think positively about your future and god will forgive you ::)
It's film stars who are the main victims in this book, not bodybuilders.
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That "Dallas" nut is in love with Reeves, mentions him in every post...
Ghey..
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Its a fuckin book you cheeky girl. I didnt write it not did Jimmy Thomson. Don't worry, i'm sure a little man like you is not named in it.
Just because you are reminded of the time Jimmy Thomson outed you as one of Bill Pearl's posing boys who was forced to wear his used posing trunks is no reason for you to turn your venom and born again christian guilt on me. Get over your past and think positively about your future and god will forgive you ::)
It's film stars who are the main victims in this book, not bodybuilders.
WHAT!
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That "Dallas" nut is in love with Reeves, mentions him in every post...
Ghey..
well i got stalked by a guy called Mike Payne.. he got upset because of a little argument and left Iron Age ...to make him Happy they made the old fart a Mod. He stalked me and followed every post. The guy ranted and raved about religion all the time.. i am sure the old bastard is a perverted old Catholic priest...
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well i got stalked by a guy called Mike Payne.. he got upset because of a little argument and left Iron Age ...to make him Happy they made the old fart a Mod. He stalked me and followed every post. The guy ranted and raved about religion all the time.. i am sure the old bastard is a perverted old Catholic priest...
Are you not a bit old to dress like a choirboy? Should be safe. ;D
Reminds me of the time the Pope got shot in 1981. As he was taken into the hospital he woke up, looked around and said "am I in heaven?". "No" said the stretcher bearer, "we're just walking thru the children's ward" :D
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Does this come as a shock to you? ::)
Bodybuilding "grew" as a "sport" while in reality since day 1 it was pimping young muscular males to old rich queers.
Yup, that has been going on from the start. However, I suspect this pimping revelation of Steve Reeves is little more then idle gossip.
If you are writting a book it always helps to drop names and make assosiations to fabricate a scandel and drum up publicity.
Having said that, I wouldn't be too shocked if Reeves was "friendly" to a couple of rich old schmoes that helped him land movie roles during the golden age of Hollywood. I seriously doubt anyone has real proof he did and at most the only proof is heresay.
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Are you not a bit old to dress like a choirboy? Should be safe. ;D
Reminds me of the time the Pope got shot in 1981. As he was taken into the hospital he woke up, looked around and said "am I in heaven?". "No" said the stretcher bearer, "we're just walking thru the children's ward" :D
. He. He ;D
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Its a fuckin book you cheeky girl. I didnt write it not did Jimmy Thomson. Don't worry, i'm sure a little man like you is not named in it.
Just because you are reminded of the time Jimmy Thomson outed you as one of Bill Pearl's posing boys who was forced to wear his used posing trunks is no reason for you to turn your venom and born again christian guilt on me. Get over your past and think positively about your future and god will forgive you ::)
It's film stars who are the main victims in this book, not bodybuilders.
I already called that old fuck out to prove it when he was alive and all he could do it stumble on his words. So if you think this is true....prove it.
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My agenda? What exactly is my agenda? ???
Here is another question for you: what is the "agenda" of a man who trains for thousands of hours in the gym, eats like crazy, injects supplements to make his muscles grow unnaturally large (even to the point of risking his health) just so he can put on a thong and flex his muscles for an audience of men? Or do you still believe the guy who does this is doing it “for the ladies”? Is musclegallery.com for the ladies? Connect... the... dots... my friend. ::) http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248135.0
I sure as fuck didn't bodybuild and compete because I was "gay'. Maybe in your circles that was the reason but not the majority and after being around it for almost 40 years...I can assure you that wasn't the reason. I'm saying it wasn't for some but for the majority it wasn't.
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Yup, that has been going on from the start. However, I suspect this pimping revelation of Steve Reeves is little more then idle gossip.
If you are writting a book it always helps to drop names and make assosiations to fabricate a scandel and drum up publicity.
Having said that, I wouldn't be too shocked if Reeves was "friendly" to a couple of rich old schmoes that helped him land movie roles during the golden age of Hollywood. I seriously doubt anyone has real proof he did and at most the only proof is heresay.
Scotty Bower`s claims are all true.
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Scotty doesn't lie—the stars sometimes do—and he knows everybody.”—Gore Vidal
http://www.teddypig.com/2012/02/gore-vidal-backs-up-scotty-bowers/
Scotty Bowers ~ Full Service
From: Grove
From: Queerty ~ Gore Vidal Confirms That Katharine Hepburn Was A Very Slutty Lesbian http://www.queerty.com/gore-vidal-confirms-that-katharine-hepburn-was-a-very-slutty-lesbian-20120210/
He vouched for Bowers, whose memoir reveals Hollywood’s sexual secrets from his work as a gigolo to tales about iconic actors. The revelations include Bowers’ claims to have set Katharine Hepburn up with “over 150 different women,” along with stories about Spencer Tracy, Cole Porter — even orgies involving the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. Vidal told guests he’s never caught Bowers in a lie in the 60-plus years he’s known him in a town “where you can meet 1,000 liars a day.”
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/02/gore-vidal-remembered-by-his-closest-friend-scotty-bowers.html
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I already called that old fuck out to prove it when he was alive and all he could do it stumble on his words. So if you think this is true....prove it.
Fucks sake man, why so defensive? Sorry if I hit a raw nerve.
I seem to remember you admitting you wore Pearl's trunks for a show. I didn't think you thought it a big deal ???
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I already called that old fuck out to prove it when he was alive and all he could do it stumble on his words. So if you think this is true....prove it.
Jimmy owns your mind from beyond the grave you tiny looking little downie.
Jimmy was good people, if he said it's true, then it's true.
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Jimmy owns your mind from beyond the grave you tiny looking little downie.
Jimmy was good people, if he said it's true, then it's true.
Sorry, Jimmy was liar. Slander is slander anyway you cut it. Jimmy had no idea who was before coming on this site.
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Sorry, Jimmy was liar. Slander is slander anyway you cut it. Jimmy had no idea who was before coming on this site.
Fair enough, just fucking with you Coach but Jimmy was a funny guy god rest his soul.
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This stuff is no surprise to anyone who understands how Hollywood or bodybuilding works. I lived in Cali for 6 years and did some modeling work...shit is everywhere. Wake up and see the reality.
As for Steve Reeves? What I find the most interesting about him is that he turned down the role for "the man with no name" character in a A Fistfull of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and the Good the Bad and the Ugly that Clint Eastwood played and became an icon. Oh, how would Hollywood be if Steeve did take that role!!! Crazy to think about it.
also turned down james bond. 8) 8) 8)
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also turned down james bond. 8) 8) 8)
I think he would have done a pretty good job. He would have had to adapt an English accent but his voice was more than deep/masculine enough to have pulled off the role and his looks and physique would have wowed the women.
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also turned down james bond. 8) 8) 8)
So he pulled out of a 3 movie deal that made eastwood, and turned down the biggest movie franchise ever?
Does this mean pulling out & turning down auditions, because I'm not sure he had what it took for Bond, and if he did, then he must've had a really useless agent
"Nah, don't worry bout those dead-end flicks, I'll make you a star with spaghetti westerns and hercules!"
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So he pulled out of a 3 movie deal that made eastwood, and turned down the biggest movie franchise ever?
Does this mean pulling out & turning down auditions, because I'm not sure he had what it took for Bond, and if he did, then he must've had a really useless agent
"Nah, don't worry bout those dead-end flicks, I'll make you a star with spaghetti westerns and hercules!"
Steve Reeves was full of shit. This is not sourced you know, this is just what he claimed.
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Steve Reeves was full of shit. This is not sourced you know, this is just what he claimed.
That may be so
But its not entirely his fault that his(fanatic) fans expound this myth of larger than life. Seriously, its like a fanatical religious cult
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also turned down james bond. 8) 8) 8)
Not sure why anyone thinks he turned down the role of James Bond. Connery was the only actor offered it although a lot of men were considered. Steve Reeves defnately was NOT one of them.
But there was one vital element still missing from the production - Saltzman and Broccoli didn't have anyone yet to play Bond. On 5 October 1961, Kinematograph Weekly announced that production on Dr No would not now take place until the following year, allowing the producers to concentrate on their search for a star.
A national newspaper ran a competition looking for the screen Bond and had whittled down more than 1,000 contestants to a more manageable six, all of whom were screen tested by EON at Twickenham studios. Of the six, one man emerged as the clear leader - a young model named Peter Anthony. But he was ultimately deemed unsuitable, though as consolation, he was offered a small part in the film, though he eventually failed to appear.
Others who were reportedly being considered for the role at this time included Richard Johnson [who would later play another fictional British secret agent, Bulldog Drummond], Roger Moore, Rex Harrison, Trevor Howard, Max Von Sydow and Patrick McGoohan. The latter was reportedly offered the role but he turned it down, appalled by the character's brutality and wanton behaviour. Broccoli himself, meanwhile, was keen on pursuing Cary Grant for the role. Fleming favoured either David Niven, Moore or his cousin, Christopher Lee, with his neighbour in Jamaica, Noel Coward, as Dr No, all of whom were deemed unsuitable for one reason or another. In fact Coward himself turned down the part, famously sending a telegraph to the producers which simply read: "Dr. No? No! No! No!"
The first time that Sean Connery's name went into the hat was at a dinner party attended by Saltzman and his wife at the Polish club in London. Also present were producer Benjamin Fisz, and editor Peter Hunt [then finishing off work on a comedy, On The Fiddle, for Fisz and himself a key player in later Bond films]. During dinner, Saltzman mentioned the problems that he and Broccoli had been having in finding the right man to play Bond when Fisz mentioned to Hunt that Connery, who was appearing in the still unfinished On the Fiddle, might fit the bill.
Hunt screened a couple of reels of On the Fiddle featuring Connery for Saltzman, while in the States, Broccoli had already seen Connery's work in the successful Disney comedy-musical Darby O'Gill and the Little People [1958]. Connery, a former naval rating, milkman and labourer, had been toiling away in film and TV since 1957, never really achieving the sort of roles that would best suit his obvious talents.
In October 1961, Connery was invited to EON's offices in Mayfair, London, for the first of a series of interviews with Saltzman and Broccoli. The producers were impressed by what they saw - Broccoli liked the young Scot's body language and Saltzman later revealed [on the BBC's Whicker's World in 1967] that they simply "liked the way he moved..."
United Artists were initially reluctant to employ Connery, feeling that Saltzman and Broccoli could do rather better if they tried hard enough. But Saltzman and Broccoli stood their ground and Connery was offered a multi-picture deal in late October 1961.
Why anyone would think that a guy with muscles who acted in cheap Italian gay titilation movies with a dubbed voice would even be considered for James Bond is beyond me.
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Why anyone would think that a guy with muscles who acted in cheap Italian gay titilation movies with a dubbed voice would even be considered for James Bond is beyond me.
I also found that dubious
Sort of like casting Steven Seagal for Schindler's list
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Sean Connery has been quoted that if he had not made "Darby O'Gill and the Little People", he would have never been "Bond."
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Just like Hoover from the FBI has been labeled as being gay when there is no proof except for a movie script.
Before Hoover was director of the FBI...when he was a relatively minor functionary in the Federal Government...his sexuality was a topic of speculation amongst the locals.
A retired Naval Officer who was in active service through the 1930's and WWII related to me how Hoover was an object of ridicule in the War Department...was perceived to have been blackmailed by mobsters because of his homosexuality...and was a large part of the reason that homosexuals were excluded from military service at the beginning of WWII.
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This thread and Reeves career as a sword and sourcery film star of the 1950's has made me think.
We all know who the market for bodybuilding magazines was back in the 40's and 50's when the bodybuilders were photographed naked.
But what about the gladiator/sword and sandal/Hercules films? Reeves, Park, Gordon Scott ,Brad harris , Lou Dengi etc
The market was abviously gay adult men. There was even a joke about it in Airplane.
I guess wealthy gays would pay a lot for Hercules to escort them to dinner. Not saying that Reeves would take part in uphill gardening mind.
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Before Hoover was director of the FBI...when he was a relatively minor functionary in the Federal Government...his sexuality was a topic of speculation amongst the locals.
A retired Naval Officer who was in active service through the 1930's and WWII related to me how Hoover was an object of ridicule in the War Department...was perceived to have been blackmailed by mobsters because of his homosexuality...and was a large part of the reason that homosexuals were excluded from military service at the beginning of WWII.
Hoover's male assistant was his room-mate, as well travelled together everywhere, even on vacation
There are holiday pictures of them, behaving just like what we now deem a "normal" gay couple. Including pics that Hoover took of his "assistant" sleeping. Is it normal for a boss to take his assistant he lives with on holiday, and then take pictures of him sleeping? If it is, then, yes, there's no proof. Moving on...
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Hoover's male assistant was his room-mate, as well travelled together everywhere, even on vacation
There are holiday pictures of them, behaving just like what we now deem a "normal" gay couple. Including pics that Hoover took of his "assistant" sleeping. Is it normal for a boss to take his assistant he lives with on holiday, and then take pictures of him sleeping? If it is, then, yes, there's no proof. Moving on...
well it sounds like he liked the Brown love to me... i bet he "Dominated" his assistant...played sick games. Don´t think Reeves ever took a cock. I have always wonderd about Joe weider...did he have a thing about hard muscled young men? did some do him favours to grace the pages of FLEX ??
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Posted by Micah_B on IA:
"Whoever it was who started talking smack about Reeves:
Don't go there fella! Reeves trashing is hallowed ground on here.
I am not claiming to be perfect..I've said some outlandish things on here and if I offended anyone..I sincerely apologize..
But that is uncalled for...Reeves epitomizes the IA"
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Posted by Micah_B on IA:
"Whoever it was who started talking smack about Reeves:
Don't go there fella! Reeves trashing is hallowed ground on here.
I am not claiming to be perfect..I've said some outlandish things on here and if I offended anyone..I sincerely apologize..
But that is uncalled for...Reeves epitomizes the IA"
worse than a political election in Bulgaria
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That "Dallas" nut is in love with Reeves, mentions him in every post...
Ghey..
He is a seriously weird guy. Have you seen what he looks like? I'll give him credit for being lean, but ... ???
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It is quite amusing how naive people are. Like little kids who find out their idols are fake. Yes, Reeves built his body with drugs like all of them and he hustled himself to old schmoes. And like all bodybuilders, nobody held a gun to his head while pounding his ass. He loved it.
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It is quite amusing how naive people are. Like little kids who find out their idols are fake. Yes, Reeves built his body with drugs like all of them and he hustled himself to old schmoes. And like all bodybuilders, nobody held a gun to his head while pounding his ass. He loved it.
LOL... This ^^^
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Nothing wrong with having people you wish to emulate
But grown men shouldn't believe in santa or the easter bunny
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He is a seriously weird guy. Have you seen what he looks like? I'll give him credit for being lean, but ... ???
There's lean, and then there's concentration camp... (Yup, I've seen him).. :-[
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Scotty doesn't lie—the stars sometimes do—and he knows everybody.”—Gore Vidal
http://www.teddypig.com/2012/02/gore-vidal-backs-up-scotty-bowers/
Scotty Bowers ~ Full Service
From: Grove
From: Queerty ~ Gore Vidal Confirms That Katharine Hepburn Was A Very Slutty Lesbian http://www.queerty.com/gore-vidal-confirms-that-katharine-hepburn-was-a-very-slutty-lesbian-20120210/
He vouched for Bowers, whose memoir reveals Hollywood’s sexual secrets from his work as a gigolo to tales about iconic actors. The revelations include Bowers’ claims to have set Katharine Hepburn up with “over 150 different women,” along with stories about Spencer Tracy, Cole Porter — even orgies involving the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. Vidal told guests he’s never caught Bowers in a lie in the 60-plus years he’s known him in a town “where you can meet 1,000 liars a day.”
Good info and looks more credible then most. I'm gonna get his book now, thanks TA.
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Good info and looks more credible then most. I'm gonna get his book now, thanks TA.
In all seriousness, why would any heterosexual male want to own this book? You are married to a woman, correct? Why would you want to read such crap?
Reeves was The Man. I have no doubts the author of this book is lying about him as well as many others. The dead can't talk so a perveted, self confessed male whore like this Bowers will write a pack of lies to make money now that nobody in Hollywood wants to buy his sexual favors any longer. Pathetic.
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Not sure why anyone thinks he turned down the role of James Bond. Connery was the only actor offered it although a lot of men were considered. Steve Reeves defnately was NOT one of them.
But there was one vital element still missing from the production - Saltzman and Broccoli didn't have anyone yet to play Bond. On 5 October 1961, Kinematograph Weekly announced that production on Dr No would not now take place until the following year, allowing the producers to concentrate on their search for a star.
A national newspaper ran a competition looking for the screen Bond and had whittled down more than 1,000 contestants to a more manageable six, all of whom were screen tested by EON at Twickenham studios. Of the six, one man emerged as the clear leader - a young model named Peter Anthony. But he was ultimately deemed unsuitable, though as consolation, he was offered a small part in the film, though he eventually failed to appear.
Others who were reportedly being considered for the role at this time included Richard Johnson [who would later play another fictional British secret agent, Bulldog Drummond], Roger Moore, Rex Harrison, Trevor Howard, Max Von Sydow and Patrick McGoohan. The latter was reportedly offered the role but he turned it down, appalled by the character's brutality and wanton behaviour. Broccoli himself, meanwhile, was keen on pursuing Cary Grant for the role. Fleming favoured either David Niven, Moore or his cousin, Christopher Lee, with his neighbour in Jamaica, Noel Coward, as Dr No, all of whom were deemed unsuitable for one reason or another. In fact Coward himself turned down the part, famously sending a telegraph to the producers which simply read: "Dr. No? No! No! No!"
The first time that Sean Connery's name went into the hat was at a dinner party attended by Saltzman and his wife at the Polish club in London. Also present were producer Benjamin Fisz, and editor Peter Hunt [then finishing off work on a comedy, On The Fiddle, for Fisz and himself a key player in later Bond films]. During dinner, Saltzman mentioned the problems that he and Broccoli had been having in finding the right man to play Bond when Fisz mentioned to Hunt that Connery, who was appearing in the still unfinished On the Fiddle, might fit the bill.
Hunt screened a couple of reels of On the Fiddle featuring Connery for Saltzman, while in the States, Broccoli had already seen Connery's work in the successful Disney comedy-musical Darby O'Gill and the Little People [1958]. Connery, a former naval rating, milkman and labourer, had been toiling away in film and TV since 1957, never really achieving the sort of roles that would best suit his obvious talents.
In October 1961, Connery was invited to EON's offices in Mayfair, London, for the first of a series of interviews with Saltzman and Broccoli. The producers were impressed by what they saw - Broccoli liked the young Scot's body language and Saltzman later revealed [on the BBC's Whicker's World in 1967] that they simply "liked the way he moved..."
United Artists were initially reluctant to employ Connery, feeling that Saltzman and Broccoli could do rather better if they tried hard enough. But Saltzman and Broccoli stood their ground and Connery was offered a multi-picture deal in late October 1961.
Why anyone would think that a guy with muscles who acted in cheap Italian gay titilation movies with a dubbed voice would even be considered for James Bond is beyond me.
Well if we are to believe the press of the time, Reeves and Sophia Loren were the two highest paid stars in Europe. Why would someone not think to cast Steve Reeves as Bond? He was tremendously popular in America as well, so it only stands to reason that he might have made a good choice for Bond. Personally I think Connery was great and the best choice was made for the role of 007 but Reeves good looks, physique, voice and overall popularity with movie fans might have served well in the roll of James Bond.
His voice was dubbed in the Italian films but if you watch him in the MGM film, "Athena", then you would know his voice was more than capable of coming off as Bond, if he adapted an English accent.
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In all seriousness, why would any heterosexual male want to own this book? You are married to a woman, correct? Why would you want to read such crap?
Reeves was The Man. I have no doubts the author of this book is lying about him as well as many others. The dead can't talk so a perveted, self confessed male whore like this Bowers will write a pack of lies to make money now that nobody in Hollywood wants to buy his sexual favors any longer. Pathetic.
I have read books on everything from climbing Mt Everest to being a hitman for the mafia and found them interesting.
FYI, I have no interest in climbing Everest myself or shooting anyone for the mob LOL.
No, I'm not gay, but I don't have to be ,to read about some famous bodybuilder's exploits.
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You guys crack me up. So I guess you also must believe that Reg Park had to have done *whatever* to get his Hercules roles, win Mr. Universe, whatever..
... so if these guys didn't xxxxxx, then their fame would have gone to some one else?
Maybe this is the only way you guys see yourselves achieving anything in this life, but these guys you are talking about were all just money waiting to be made. It's not complicated.
These discussions say more about you guys then about them..
You are correct- I believe that the reason some of these gays, er guys on this thread make up these stories is because they wish that THEY were the ones getting fucked up the ass by a schmoe! lol..
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It is quite amusing how naive people are. Like little kids who find out their idols are fake. Yes, Reeves built his body with drugs like all of them and he hustled himself to old schmoes. And like all bodybuilders, nobody held a gun to his head while pounding his ass. He loved it.
How do they make sure they don't contract HIV?
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You are correct- I believe that the reason some of these gays, er guys on this thread make up these stories is because they wish that THEY were the ones getting fucked up the ass by a schmoe! lol..
You got me!
I'm making stuff up about reeves because I have issues...
Its an internet discussion forum, people voice their opinions, take what you want, leave the rest.
Its not like what any one of us has to say will denigrate reeves as a bber
As mentioned, reeves was reeves, who are we? His achievement in building a fantastic physique by the time most are starting to train, and retiring young with nothing to prove, carrying himself as a gentleman in life. Inspired millions.
So what if he took it in the ass, many in hollywood have. (No homo)
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People get touchy about their idols..
Wanna read about Arnold and Franco's exploits to make early money posing for schmoes? (mainly Arnold).
Read this book.
http://www.amazon.com/Bodybuilders-Drugs-Sex-Thomas-Minichiello/dp/0967417406
Minichiello changes the names to protect the innocent, but he tells the story of the Austrian bodybuilder and his Sardinian side kick.
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You are correct- I believe that the reason some of these gays, er guys on this thread make up these stories is because they wish that THEY were the ones getting fucked up the ass by a schmoe! lol..
Hmmm, I thought the schmoes were the ones that anted to get plowed up the fartlocker by some big stud?
Now I learn that THEY are the real rump riders? Hmmmmm?
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Reeves had sex with Males.
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IronAge must be crapping in their thongs knowing this.
Reeves juiced and did G4P...
(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.4874019820929054&pid=1.7&w=217&h=150&c=7&rs=1)
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In all seriousness, why would any heterosexual male want to own this book? You are married to a woman, correct? Why would you want to read such crap?
Reeves was The Man. I have no doubts the author of this book is lying about him as well as many others. The dead can't talk so a perveted, self confessed male whore like this Bowers will write a pack of lies to make money now that nobody in Hollywood wants to buy his sexual favors any longer. Pathetic.
Romney: Straight ticket?
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what the hell do these Homos get out being ass fucked? In the 50s you were considered to be ill.. sick.. perverted to the bone...
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what the hell do these Homos get out being ass fucked? In the 50s you were considered to be ill.. sick.. perverted to the bone...
Hmm. Should this not be a PM to ONE?
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People get touchy about their idols..
Wanna read about Arnold and Franco's exploits to make early money posing for schmoes? (mainly Arnold).
Read this book.
http://www.amazon.com/Bodybuilders-Drugs-Sex-Thomas-Minichiello/dp/0967417406
Minichiello changes the names to protect the innocent, but he tells the story of the Austrian bodybuilder and his Sardinian side kick.
Never heard of that book but I've just realised it was written by Tom Minichiello. That would make it fairly legit I would think. Can't understand why Ironage didn't mention this book when it came out as they regularly discuss Tom Minichiello related stuff.
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Never heard of that book but I've just realised it was written by Tom Minichiello. That would make it fairly legit I would think. Can't understand why Ironage didn't mention this book when it came out as they regularly discuss Tom Minichiello related stuff.
They would not because it´s negative to them...
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Well I can't believe he would get away with writing a novel based on the lives of Arnold and Franco and exposing the sordid reality without Arnold trying to stop it. Then again he maybe didn't want to bring attention to it. Arnold admits he stayed at the home of a wealthy gay when he lived in Munich way back in Education of a Bodybuilder in 77 so I can't understand why he would be touchy about being reminded that he used to pose for gays. Wonder if he will mention it in his new book.
Everyone in the IFBB posed for a wealthy old gay regularly as part of his career (Joe Weider) so I don't see what the big deal is. Oscar State and Ivan Dunbar were also skinny old shmoes who judged for years despite have the muscle mass of Mr Burns out of the Simpsons.
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Fucking Fags were everywhere. Homo-lowest form of Man. Give them the stun gun.. like little Girls
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Oscar State and Ivan Dunbar were also skinny old shmoes who judged for years despite have the muscle mass of Mr Burns out of the Simpsons.
LMAO
(http://www.pudreteflanders.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/monty-burns.gif)
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Look at
Mr Burns old OOscar State holding that microphone and wishin it was one of his boy's schlongs.
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What a pair of creepy old kunts they were.
A pair of uphill gardeners if ever there was.
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Fucking Fags were everywhere. Homo-lowest form of Man. Give them the stun gun.. like little Girls
Stfu you ugly old nonce.
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Look at Mr Burns old OOscar State holding that microphone and wishin it was one of his boy's schlongs.
fucking old cock sucker fag
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The Weider Bros hada few Brown Holes i am sure....LOL Give Homos the stun gun.. castrate them.
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The Weider Bros hada few Brown Holes i am sure....LOL Give Homos the stun gun.. castrate them.
Yep.
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The Weider Bros hada few Brown Holes i am sure....LOL Give Homos the stun gun.. castrate them.
Hitler would love a guy like you
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Another funny old thread... LOL