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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: FAST LANE on February 26, 2012, 02:18:06 PM
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What's up fellas?
Here's the update: After sm (pp) tren wasn't working out, I made my own tren from fina pellets. Let me just say, if any of you haven't done it, DO IT. I was hesitant at first, but it really is easy as fuck, just like everyone says. Anyways, I ended up making 80 ml at 100mg/ml. To get to the point, after 10 days on the homebrew at 2.5-3cc everyday (yesterday I shot 5 cc- just bc I wanted to hit triceps before an arm workout lol) (never pinned tri's but it was good) Anyways, 10 days of 250mg - 300 mg ED, that's around 2 grams of fucking tren ace a week!! LONG STORY SHORT: AGAIN, NO SIDES, NO HARDNESS, NO VEINS, NO PUMPS, NO STRENGTH, NO FAT LOSS, NO AGGRESSION, no cough, sweats, DON"T FEEL A GOD DAMN THING!! So, verdict is in, I'm a fucking non-responder to tren. Beyond pissed at this point.
Like I've stated before, I think I even might be a non-responder to all hormones TBH. As I've mentioned previous, Superdrol 30mg a day nothing- NO PUMPS, minimal strength, NO SIDES etc. (worked a little bit, I think) I'm up to 125 mg ephdrina, (Bronkaid) now- don't feel a thing lol...
For those that don't think it's possible or whatever- I myself FIND IT SO HARD TO BELIEVE TOO- I MEAN WTF!! Anyways, for those that are interested at all, or have interest in pharmacoligy, sciences, hormones etc, or for those that are just bored check this thread out- It gave me a little insight on my situation- TBH, it could be bullshit, it could not, but I DO KNOW FOR SURE: I think I have a problem lol..
Here it is: (it's really long, but a good/interesting read) http://forums.steroid.com/archive/index.php/t-262982.html (http://forums.steroid.com/archive/index.php/t-262982.html)
I have some npp and anadrol (never used them before) So I will be trying those real soon and see if I get some effects/results. I just dropped test prop (sm pp)- didn't feel a thing- I'm going to try it again high dose though- I was only doing 350- 600 a week (Hopefully I respond to test lol) Could be bunk though? Werid though, my nuts are the size of grapes, so I don't know wtf is going on- but no increase sex drive, no strength etc from the test- never really notices much from test before either in the past- So, I will use 1 -1.5 grams also pretty soon and see how it goes.
Anyways, sorry for the long ass post, but just thought I'd let you good fellas know!! And, if ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT at all, please let me know!! I'm probably going to see a doctor TBH, (in the article, it states that high estro, messed up thyroid/ blood glucose might be the cause of the non-response) Don't feel like I have high estro, or anything- I've ALWAYS been healthy- no problems medically etc ect etc... Diet/training are good too etc etc...
I will keep you guys updated in the future about the anadrol and Npp and high dose test..
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Not respond to one of the harshest hormones?
I think you might have bunk bolonie
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what you are saying is pretty much impossible.
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^^ Maybe you guys didn't read my other thread ?
But, I've used four different brands of tren in the past year- NO RESULTS, same thing etc etc- not getting into it again, you can look up my other thread
I JUST MADE TREN FROM FINAPLIX PELLETS = IMPOSSIBLE TO BE BUNK
LOL
Then again, that is what most people would say/think if they were unaware of the extremities of the situation (Again, that is what I thought at first)
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what you are saying is pretty much impossible.
You should read the link I posted then....
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Maybe not responding to one of the most potent anabolic steroids known to man is Gods way of saying, "get off the fuckin' drugs"!
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Guess it's time to pick up golf.
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That sounds extremely weird but since you seem sincere, only thing i really can say, is that i feel sorry for you... After all these years i still respond well to basic compounds in very conservative doses. I guess you don't have much of a choice, but to keep looking for a steroid/steroids that will work for you and stay consistent with those, good luck.
PS. I have no idea why a human would not respond to hormones... ???
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doesnt sound too odd to me. some people just dont respod to certain drugs.
i myself dont respond to dbol at all.....my buddy and I both did some dbol together.(same brand) and he blew up, and i got nothing.
(literally nothing)
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Its not that rare. Some people have poor response to anabolics, very few receptors with poor response.
Have you tried stacking it with gh? try it see if something changes.
The people i've known who where non responders tried mega-doses and stacked it with gh for some then it worked for others not even then.
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bro what are your stats,,,any pics? reason i ask,,,id assume if you dont respond to gear your not very big? not trying to be a dick, but hormones is the reason that anyone is big, unlesss you have great genetics for mass and responding to working out (which some do) and just the hormones dont work for you. it sounds if you put 5cc in an arm you prolly got some pretty big tri's though? is that just from training, naturally big guy? i myself am not a great responder to drugs, but i do respond, just not like some of these beasts,,,i actually have to diet and shit and do cardio,,,i cant junk and grow like other guys and go without sleep and use rec drugs and stay huge lol....
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I'm really having a hard time not just calling "bunk product" on you.
Any one of the vets on this board who has confidence in the tren they use willing to send this guy a vial??
If being a comeplete "non-responder" to hormones is even possible though and you are suffering from this, then I do feel sorry for you man.
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i think though that his last batch was homebrew,,,from pellets, so as long as he brewed it right which sounds like he did, then i guess he really doesn't respond to tren. thinking about brewing myself but need to research more im no chef
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got a mate who doesn't respond to hormones in a similar way, did tren for a while and it didn't do anything much
he went on GH and everything started working
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He said he brewed his own from pellets. That's as legit as one can get. The guy just doesn't respond to it. That would be horrible.
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Maybe not responding to one of the most potent anabolic steroids known to man is Gods way of saying, "get off the fuckin' drugs"!
Guess it's time to pick up golf.
LOL
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That sounds extremely weird but since you seem sincere, only thing i really can say, is that i feel sorry for you... After all these years i still respond well to basic compounds in very conservative doses. I guess you don't have much of a choice, but to keep looking for a steroid/steroids that will work for you and stay consistent with those, good luck.
PS. I have no idea why a human would not respond to hormones... ???
I'm really having a hard time not just calling "bunk product" on you.
Any one of the vets on this board who has confidence in the tren they use willing to send this guy a vial??
If being a comeplete "non-responder" to hormones is even possible though and you are suffering from this, then I do feel sorry for you man.
Thanks fellas, I appreciate it!!
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doesnt sound too odd to me. some people just dont respod to certain drugs.
i myself dont respond to dbol at all.....my buddy and I both did some dbol together.(same brand) and he blew up, and i got nothing.
(literally nothing)
Damn, yeah bro, just proves the "everyone's different theory" and responds better/worse to different compounds than others...Will you ever consider running dbol again, at a high dose? And, what was the dosage that you and your friend used?
got a mate who doesn't respond to hormones in a similar way, did tren for a while and it didn't do anything much
he went on GH and everything started working
Its not that rare. Some people have poor response to anabolics, very few receptors with poor response.
Have you tried stacking it with gh? try it see if something changes.
The people i've known who where non responders tried mega-doses and stacked it with gh for some then it worked for others not even then.
Hmm, that's interesting, but definitely makes sense, IMO. No, I haven't ever used GH, but need to soon, LOL. Still, want to figure out this "problem" first, though, TBH.
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i think though that his last batch was homebrew,,,from pellets, so as long as he brewed it right which sounds like he did, then i guess he really doesn't respond to tren. thinking about brewing myself but need to research more im no chef
He said he brewed his own from pellets. That's as legit as one can get. The guy just doesn't respond to it. That would be horrible.
^^ Yup, made it from pellets :'(
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if i was you id throw my aas in the garbage. then abuse the shit out of gh+slin+every peptide can get hand on. if still no results, end myself.
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fastlane I feel your pain I made tren and do respond but not well it will burn fat put I drop strength and lose mass when swithcing out test it is far from the miracle drug it is for other people I have made it and ran 700mg a week it makes me crazy and nighmares ,tren coughs I do respond to it like I said nothing special if it had no side effects I would use it but its not great to me. I do not like tren do not like eq. And deca gives sex sides so I'm kinda fucked lol I have feel in love with dbol recently and going to do blood tests to see just how much it elevates my liver values. That being said it take me 2 -4 weeks for the sides from tren to show up and getting mental . I would keep going if your having no sides why not run it tell week 6 to make sure.
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there was some dude on some other board long time ago that was shooting the juice in his asshole...thats not what ur doing is it bro? lol
but probably suppository may have some effect too though.
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go to week 6 and just to make sure sometimes shit just hits all the sudden. If your problem is related to some hormonal imbalance which it may be test would still work as it raises both estogen and test levels
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Damn, yeah bro, just proves the "everyone's different theory" and responds better/worse to different compounds than others...Will you ever consider running dbol again, at a high dose? And, what was the dosage that you and your friend used?
i was on 40Mg/day and up'd it to 60 then 80 and still no results. my buddy ran 40-60/day and he blew up.
his strrength went way up too, but not me.
dont think i'll try dbol again...might just stick with tbol and test....and start experimenting with other aas
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most people fuck up their first batch or 2 of pellets, but 3cc ED?
wtf?
Did you buy fake fina from ebay or something?
Did you use methanol to extract it? Did you overheat it? Tren needs just a tiny bit of heat to dissolve, the red stuff ppl make and sell is oxidized and damaged. Tren should be the color of the oil its dissolved in
Are you trolling? 5cc in your ARM?
I get a good response off 0.5 cc of my homebrew so I can't imagine shooting 500mg of the stuff and not going bright red and sweaty or having a heart attack
No, I shot 2 cc in my tri and 3 cc in glute = 5 cc
And no, I got my pellets from a vet lol Finaplix-H
Didn't use methanol or heat, just followed simple instructions (basskiller)
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fastlane I feel your pain I made tren and do respond but not well it will burn fat put I drop strength and lose mass when swithcing out test it is far from the miracle drug it is for other people I have made it and ran 700mg a week it makes me crazy and nighmares ,tren coughs I do respond to it like I said nothing special if it had no side effects I would use it but its not great to me. I do not like tren do not like eq. And deca gives sex sides so I'm kinda fucked lol I have feel in love with dbol recently and going to do blood tests to see just how much it elevates my liver values. That being said it take me 2 -4 weeks for the sides from tren to show up and getting mental . I would keep going if your having no sides why not run it tell week 6 to make sure.
Yeah, I mean, that's the plan, I'm just going to keep going, (just like I did with all the other trens I had lol)
Anyways, I've already been on for 4 weeks, 3 weeks with sm tren now 1 week with the homebrew- But yeah, I'll keep going till I just finish it all
Problem is though, I'm pinning over 2 grams of tren a week- If it's not working = HUGE WASTE OF MONEY + INCREASED/UNNECESSARY KIDNEY AND LIVER STRAIN + INCREASED/UNNECESSARY AMOUNT OF PINNING/SCAR TISSUE
BASICALLY COMES DOWN TO SO FUCKING FRUSTRATED AND PISSED OFF
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What's up fellas?
Here's the update: After sm (pp) tren wasn't working out, I made my own tren from fina pellets. Let me just say, if any of you haven't done it, DO IT. I was hesitant at first, but it really is easy as fuck, just like everyone says. Anyways, I ended up making 80 ml at 100mg/ml. To get to the point, after 10 days on the homebrew at 2.5-3cc everyday (yesterday I shot 5 cc- just bc I wanted to hit triceps before an arm workout lol) (never pinned tri's but it was good) Anyways, 10 days of 250mg - 300 mg ED, that's around 2 grams of fucking tren ace a week!! LONG STORY SHORT: AGAIN, NO SIDES, NO HARDNESS, NO VEINS, NO PUMPS, NO STRENGTH, NO FAT LOSS, NO AGGRESSION, no cough, sweats, DON"T FEEL A GOD DAMN THING!! So, verdict is in, I'm a fucking non-responder to tren. Beyond pissed at this point.
Like I've stated before, I think I even might be a non-responder to all hormones TBH. As I've mentioned previous, Superdrol 30mg a day nothing- NO PUMPS, minimal strength, NO SIDES etc. (worked a little bit, I think) I'm up to 125 mg ephdrina, (Bronkaid) now- don't feel a thing lol...
For those that don't think it's possible or whatever- I myself FIND IT SO HARD TO BELIEVE TOO- I MEAN WTF!! Anyways, for those that are interested at all, or have interest in pharmacoligy, sciences, hormones etc, or for those that are just bored check this thread out- It gave me a little insight on my situation- TBH, it could be bullshit, it could not, but I DO KNOW FOR SURE: I think I have a problem lol..
Here it is: (it's really long, but a good/interesting read) http://forums.steroid.com/archive/index.php/t-262982.html (http://forums.steroid.com/archive/index.php/t-262982.html)
I have some npp and anadrol (never used them before) So I will be trying those real soon and see if I get some effects/results. I just dropped test prop (sm pp)- didn't feel a thing- I'm going to try it again high dose though- I was only doing 350- 600 a week (Hopefully I respond to test lol) Could be bunk though? Werid though, my nuts are the size of grapes, so I don't know wtf is going on- but no increase sex drive, no strength etc from the test- never really notices much from test before either in the past- So, I will use 1 -1.5 grams also pretty soon and see how it goes.
Anyways, sorry for the long ass post, but just thought I'd let you good fellas know!! And, if ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT at all, please let me know!! I'm probably going to see a doctor TBH, (in the article, it states that high estro, messed up thyroid/ blood glucose might be the cause of the non-response) Don't feel like I have high estro, or anything- I've ALWAYS been healthy- no problems medically etc ect etc... Diet/training are good too etc etc...
I will keep you guys updated in the future about the anadrol and Npp and high dose test..
Fastlane, this is just one end of the extremes of hormones response. I have one friend who is the opposite of you, and literally blows up on 50 mg of tren ace EOD. I mean he blew the fuck up, and that is all he ran- no test, no orals. Gained close to 30 lbs in 3 months (this is partially because he cycles). And then I have another friend who has to run 100 mg of tren ace every day, and honestly his results are not overly impressive, and he has told me that he feels no pump- no physical anything. Only the mental weirdness from the tren.
The only thing I can think of is friend 1 is 5'4'' and 160 lbs, and friend 2 is 6'3'' and 225 lbs. But honestly, size shouldn't come to much into consideration here. These drugs are made for cattle.
I personally feel 50 mg of tren ace EOD. And I don't mean it is like a light feeling. When I used to run it that light, it was hectic. Now that I have worked my way up to a gram every week, the mental sides are relatively bad, but controllable, and the physical benefit is just ridiculous. I hope you find YOUR hormone one day, and honestly, I can't believe that there is not one out there. I would try a nice tren ace and NPP cycle or something like that. If you don't respond to that @ 100 mg each daily, of quality gear of course, then you truly are a special case.
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I'm right in the middle of the 2 guys you mentioned, 5'10" 190lbs and 100mg/day of tren ace is a fucking miracle to me. Only sides I have are acne, and crazy back and calf pumps. I am on day 40 and I can't really believe the results I'm getting.
And anyone who wants to shit talk on my size, I cut to 155lbs for mma and 160lbs for wrestling and I can't let myself get above 200lbs, so I float around 175 to 190lbs, I am only looking for hardness, and strength, and then I work cardio when I have a comp. coming up for 6 to 10 weeks.
I am about 5% bf and I don't max out but I can probably bench press about 300lbs right now, and I don't do bench, only pushups and dumbells for curl, flies, shrugs, upward row and regular row, tri ext and dips. My first set of pushups to start my workout will be 60 form reps tomorrow, followed by 3 sets of 30, the inside grip, then on to curl and the rest. Once I can start riding my bike outside I will get back to cardio and mma training. If you are tired after 1 rep of a max lift, imagine doing that lift every 4 seconds for 15 minutes straight, with 1 minute break every 5 mins. That is fight shape. That is the shape I work for every year, whether I have a fight scheduled or not, haven't had one in 3 years, but maybe this is the year.
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Fastlane, this is just one end of the extremes of hormones response. I have one friend who is the opposite of you, and literally blows up on 50 mg of tren ace EOD. I mean he blew the fuck up, and that is all he ran- no test, no orals. Gained close to 30 lbs in 3 months (this is partially because he cycles). And then I have another friend who has to run 100 mg of tren ace every day, and honestly his results are not overly impressive, and he has told me that he feels no pump- no physical anything. Only the mental weirdness from the tren.
The only thing I can think of is friend 1 is 5'4'' and 160 lbs, and friend 2 is 6'3'' and 225 lbs. But honestly, size shouldn't come to much into consideration here. These drugs are made for cattle.
I personally feel 50 mg of tren ace EOD. And I don't mean it is like a light feeling. When I used to run it that light, it was hectic. Now that I have worked my way up to a gram every week, the mental sides are relatively bad, but controllable, and the physical benefit is just ridiculous. I hope you find YOUR hormone one day, and honestly, I can't believe that there is not one out there. I would try a nice tren ace and NPP cycle or something like that. If you don't respond to that @ 100 mg each daily, of quality gear of course, then you truly are a special case.
Appreciate the insight boss!!
I agree, size should play no relativity, but that is very interesting in both of your friends cases. I'm about 5'9" 210 around 10% BF.
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^^
I have a bunch of npp, but didn't really want to run it until I got a little leaner, but I agree that I think I'll just keep changing compounds until I find one that works.
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If i was you here's what i'd do:
start gh @ 10ius asap
then add 2/3 fast compounds (npp, tren ace, prop)
see how it feels
every other week or e3w add 4-5ius more to the gh and bump the gear dose by 100mg each.
repeat this until you find your sweet spot and keep it steady.
i'm not the best responder by any means and this is what i intend to do...i just hope i don't need 30ius of gh or i'll be big and broke lol.
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If i was you here's what i'd do:
start gh @ 10ius asap
then add 2/3 fast compounds (npp, tren ace, prop)
see how it feels
every other week or e3w add 4-5ius more to the gh and bump the gear dose by 100mg each.
repeat this until you find your sweet spot and keep it steady.
i'm not the best responder by any means and this is what i intend to do...i just hope i don't need 30ius of gh or i'll be big and broke lol.
LOL yeah I hear ya bro.. Thanks for the input.. As suggested by some other good, experienced fellas, I'm going to start on the gh asap. I've never done gh before, but apparently I need it lol. Just don't want to shell out a ton of money quickly, as I'm going to law school in the fall. But, GOTTA DO WHAT WE GOTTA DO!!! Appreciate the insight bro!!
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that sucks dude. you try testosterone ? i think everyone responds to it at least to some degree being a hormone that naturally occurs in the body and all
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The Russian studies 'Sports Pharmacology in the Former Soviet Union' found that some people were very poor responders to AAS.
I would consider myself someone that has poor response to hormones, but not the worst.
I recently had the opportunity to run GH at 10iu daily for a few months, I ran that alongside a modest AAS stack and my results were
what I had expected from AAS originally. It really made a difference, I am not sure why.
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The Russian studies 'Sports Pharmacology in the Former Soviet Union' found that some people were very poor responders to AAS.
I would consider myself someone that has poor response to hormones, but not the worst.
I recently had the opportunity to run GH at 10iu daily for a few months, I ran that alongside a modest AAS stack and my results were
what I had expected from AAS originally. It really made a difference, I am not sure why.
i can't explain why but this is normal. Perhaps because gh optimizes aas receptors or whatever. But it is.
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Appreciate the insight boss!!
I agree, size should play no relativity, but that is very interesting in both of your friends cases. I'm about 5'9" 210 around 10% BF.
yeah it shouldn't. personally, i am not a fan of npp or deca. i know npp is popular on this board and deca is not. i personally do not like either. my body type just does not respond great to either of them. on my last cycle of deca, which was recently, i really got too big, and not in a good way. my whole face looked gigantic.
and it's not like the benefits outweigh these aesthetic down falls. the strength gains from tren are far, far superior to the strength gains from deca/npp in my personal case. and the joint lubrication from deca/npp is great, but uneccesary for me. i lift heavy but i don't feel it in my joints even on tren.
so just find the right hormone for yourself, but obviously be aware that certain hormones are not for everyone. tren may not be for you. deca sure as fuck is not for me. but something is out there with your name on it. i can't believe it is not.
primo? primo + anavar? try weird shit like that... let us know what happens.
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yeah it shouldn't. personally, i am not a fan of npp or deca. i know npp is popular on this board and deca is not. i personally do not like either. my body type just does not respond great to either of them. on my last cycle of deca, which was recently, i really got too big, and not in a good way. my whole face looked gigantic.
and it's not like the benefits outweigh these aesthetic down falls. the strength gains from tren are far, far superior to the strength gains from deca/npp in my personal case. and the joint lubrication from deca/npp is great, but uneccesary for me. i lift heavy but i don't feel it in my joints even on tren.
so just find the right hormone for yourself, but obviously be aware that certain hormones are not for everyone. tren may not be for you. deca sure as fuck is not for me. but something is out there with your name on it. i can't believe it is not.
primo? primo + anavar? try weird shit like that... let us know what happens.
Oh yeah, that's right, I remember you saying that about nandrolone. Yup, that's what I plan to do, try a bunch of different shit, and I'll let you fellas know how it goes!! Thanks for the help/insight/support!!!
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Your a genetic freak at the opposite end of the spectrum.. a complete non responder.
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Not respond to one of the harshest hormones?
I think you might have bunk bolonie
this^^^^^^^^^^^
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He said he brewed his own from pellets. That's as legit as one can get. The guy just doesn't respond to it. That would be horrible.
he might fucked it up durig the cooking process...it happens to the best of them..
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damn that sucks dude, hope you respond well to other kinds of gear. its interesting, am i right in assuming some people may not think they have great genetics at all when training naturally as in don't put on muscle easily or whatever, but when they touch gear they respond very quickly and with great results due to their amount of receptor sites?
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he might fucked it up durig the cooking process...it happens to the best of them..
Comon dawg, read the OP, and my other posts i thread... I didn't "cook" it lol...
As far as your other post about "bunk balonie", you must have not read my other thread either.. tried four different brands of tren, now this homebrew from pellets...
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damn that sucks dude, hope you respond well to other kinds of gear. its interesting, am i right in assuming some people may not think they have great genetics at all when training naturally as in don't put on muscle easily or whatever, but when they touch gear they respond very quickly and with great results due to their amount of receptor sites?
Thanks bro, yeah that's what I'm hoping... As far as your statement goes, yeah, your absolutely correct... In my case though, I feel like it's the other way around lol :'(
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just out of curiosity what method did you use to brew the tren
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just out of curiosity what method did you use to brew the tren
Simple basskiller method, as stated above.... easy as cake bro (not crystal method) (didn't bake)
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Simple basskiller method, as stated above.... easy as cake bro (not crystal method) (didn't bake)
basskiller has like 4-5 different methods..
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he used the not a cow method 1, pretty much the same as basskiller's basic method
I've done it a few times now, and he did it right.
I got the cough today, first time in 40 shots, man it sucked but it only lasted a few minutes. Must have injected straight into a vein in my delt, but there is no bruise and not much blood like usual.
Glad to be down to my last 10 or 15 days, my ass is a pin cushion, my shoulders are sore and I don't want to do quads, calves suck and I don't want to do traps or lats either.
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not a cow is the crystal method.
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not a cow has 3 different methods from what I've seen
he used the basic one
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not a cow has 3 different methods from what I've seen
he used the basic one
this one ?
http://www.basskilleronline.com/finaplix-notacow.shtml
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NO
I just used A FUCKING SIMPLE BASSKILLER METHOD LOL
No heat or other bullshit:
http://www.basskilleronline.com/finaplix_directions_02.shtml
And took some other steps/pointers from other people/methods
NOT A BIG FUCKING DEAL JUST MAKE THE SHIT LOL
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well the one i just posted above you looks a bit simpler than that bro ;D
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fast lane you ignored my questions last time, I'll ask you again brother answer these for me...
1. do you have a normal size dick
2. Did you go through puberty
3. did u get Gynocemastia as a teenager
4. Any thyroid issues
5. Diabetic
There can be many reasons for why, I read some people have androgen insensitivity.
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fast lane you ignored my questions last time, I'll ask you again brother answer these for me...
1. do you have a normal size dick
2. Did you go through puberty
3. did u get Gynocemastia as a teenager
4. Any thyroid issues
5. Diabetic
There can be many reasons for why, I read some people have androgen insensitivity.
Oh yeah, my bad brotha.. didn't mean to ignore you, just forgot lol
YES YES etc etc.. I'm fine bro lol
I appreciate your concern
No gyno. no thryoid issues, not diabetic.. I'm pretty perfect TBH lol
Rearden Metal's seen pics of me, he can attest to what I look like
5'9 210 10% BF- I'm still running then Tren- Over 2 grams lol
To be completely honest, I think I'm getting "results" but I don't feel anything or getting any of the "benefits".... As in I think it might be "working" as in the effects on muscle tissue, physique etc. but I get no strength gains, no added veins,hardness etc etc etc
Also, TBH I think that people hype it up maybe? gh15 promoted the shit out of tren as in holy grail etc etc changes daily etc etc.... but maybe I'm expecting too much? All I can say safely is at 2 grams for almost 2 weeks, no strength, sides, all that "good shit" that people say they get... Again, maybe I'm expecting to change too much, or etc... I don't know lol
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Oh yeah, my bad brotha.. didn't mean to ignore you, just forgot lol
YES YES etc etc.. I'm fine bro lol
I appreciate your concern
No gyno. no thryoid issues, not diabetic.. I'm pretty perfect TBH lol
Rearden Metal's seen pics of me, he can attest to what I look like
5'9 210 10% BF- I'm still running then Tren- Over 2 grams lol
To be completely honest, I think I'm getting "results" but I don't feel anything or getting any of the "benefits".... As in I think it might be "working" as in the effects on muscle tissue, physique etc. but I get no strength gains, no added veins,hardness etc etc etc
Also, TBH I think that people hype it up maybe? gh15 promoted the shit out of tren as in holy grail etc etc changes daily etc etc.... but maybe I'm expecting too much? All I can say safely is at 2 grams for almost 2 weeks, no strength, sides, all that "good shit" that people say they get... Again, maybe I'm expecting to change too much, or etc... I don't know lol
well that is good to hear. If you turned into a male and have a normal sized penis, you will respond to exogenous testosterone. Some guys are just more sensitive to compounds than others honestly. Honestly I would drop the animal steroids and get some that were made for humans, EQ tren winstrol etcetc were made for animals and alot of it is wasted looking for a receptor sight to attach itself to. Deca,dbol,anadrol,testosterone will always be more effective in humans, regardless of anyone says. Also I do not know any experienced bodybuilder who reccomends tren as a bulking compound. BFG said the same, gh15 said the same, etc- far too thermogenic and makes weight gain difficult.
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well that is good to hear. If you turned into a male and have a normal sized penis, you will respond to exogenous testosterone. Some guys are just more sensitive to compounds than others honestly. Honestly I would drop the animal steroids and get some that were made for humans, EQ tren winstrol etcetc were made for animals and alot of it is wasted looking for a receptor sight to attach itself to. Deca,dbol,anadrol,testosterone will always be more effective in humans, regardless of anyone says. Also I do not know any experienced bodybuilder who reccomends tren as a bulking compound. BFG said the same, gh15 said the same, etc- far too thermogenic and makes weight gain difficult.
Yeah, like I stated previously, in about 2 weeks I'm going to start some anadrol and npp, maybe throw in a low dose of test p
I'll get back to you with the results ;D
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Yeah, like I stated previously, in about 2 weeks I'm going to start some anadrol and npp, maybe throw in a low dose of test p
I'll get back to you with the results ;D
Try a nice amount of dbol bro. Add it to your npp you will be pleased.
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well that is good to hear. If you turned into a male and have a normal sized penis, you will respond to exogenous testosterone. Some guys are just more sensitive to compounds than others honestly. Honestly I would drop the animal steroids and get some that were made for humans, EQ tren winstrol etcetc were made for animals and alot of it is wasted looking for a receptor sight to attach itself to. Deca,dbol,anadrol,testosterone will always be more effective in humans, regardless of anyone says. Also I do not know any experienced bodybuilder who reccomends tren as a bulking compound. BFG said the same, gh15 said the same, etc- far too thermogenic and makes weight gain difficult.
where did that thinking come from? All mammals produce the same androgens. In fact the only anabolic sterpids that are natural to the body are testosterone, estrogen, dht, 19-nor. All of the other products are deriatives of testosterone in some form. Just saying bro just because it was "designed" with animals in mind doesnt make it less effective for humansh
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Fast Lane I thought I recommended baking that shit. You have forsaken me. Lol jk not that it matters as long as it's sterile.
I am on about 550mg/wk for 6 weeks now and I look like a 1960's bodybuilder. I feel like a GOD.
I always try a product by itself for the first time. Next run I'm going 75mg drol/day 75mg tren/day and 500mg test e/week for 8 weeks.
Should be a good time looking better than everyone this summer. JK I'm not that vain, and I already look better than everyone. lololol
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Pretty sure eq was developed for people they just used it in horses
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where did that thinking come from? All mammals produce the same androgens. In fact the only anabolic sterpids that are natural to the body are testosterone, estrogen, dht, 19-nor. All of the other products are deriatives of testosterone in some form. Just saying bro just because it was "designed" with animals in mind doesnt make it less effective for humansh
good point. Was Equipoise really developed for humans originally? I thought it was made for horses, or was is made for humans and then used on horses?
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Race horses. Loose some body fat, I. Try water based test too, I was a poor responder, I lost a stone and a half then hit again and boom
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Race horses. Loose some body fat, I. Try water based test too, I was a poor responder, I lost a stone and a half then hit again and boom
yep alot of people arent aware but fat has alot of androgen/estrogen receptor in their cell nucleus. so the more bf you have the more gear your wasting causing you to use higher doses to achieve a similar effect as if you were much leaner on smaller doses
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Go get a full bloodwork
i can't believe no one suggested it yet...
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anyone know what happened to this guy? did he off hinself?
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anyone know what happened to this guy? did he off hinself?
don't know but just some crazy guy who probably expected to look like Coleman and when he fell short he decided to blame the gear, lol. More of these type of people out there then you think.
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Your expectations are probably simply too high.
I'm sure the tren is doing *something*. Everyone has steroid receptors in their body after all.
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anyone know what happened to this guy? did he off hinself?
i think i remember someone telling him he needed NQK (november quality kigs) lol.
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anyone know what happened to this guy? did he off hinself?
Maybe he ended up in hospital from taking 2 grams of fucking tren.
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The verdict is, your gear was fake, your diet totally off and you don't know how to train.
Yes, many people who look like they don't train will consider themselves bodybuilders and are 100% certain they train and eat right.
But they don't really know anything.
It will be one of the listed reasons, or all listed reasons.
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Old, useless thread. Probably some femmy fatass who can't train properly. No pump? Eating a small handful of raisins pre workout gives me a pump. GTFO!
Dude must have stopped lifting and renewed his World of Warcraft subscription.
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Old, useless thread. Probably some femmy fatass who can't train properly. No pump? Eating a small handful of raisins pre workout gives me a pump. GTFO!
Dude must have stopped lifting and renewed his World of Warcraft subscription.
Yeah, sounds very much like the bloody newcomers who read about overhyped steroids online, and then"now i will blow up in 8weeks, i know all the secrets", do everything but the injection shots wrong and then find out it doesn't work for them.
People on steroids will get a pump from walking stairs, writing with a pen and so forth.
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Yeah, sounds very much like the bloody newcomers who read about overhyped steroids online, and then"now i will blow up in 8weeks, i know all the secrets", do everything but the injection shots wrong and then find out it doesn't work for them.
People on steroids will get a pump from walking stairs, writing with a pen and so forth.
pretty much sums up this thread ^^^^
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What's up fellas?
Here's the update: After sm (pp) tren wasn't working out, I made my own tren from fina pellets. Let me just say, if any of you haven't done it, DO IT. I was hesitant at first, but it really is easy as fuck, just like everyone says. Anyways, I ended up making 80 ml at 100mg/ml. To get to the point, after 10 days on the homebrew at 2.5-3cc everyday (yesterday I shot 5 cc- just bc I wanted to hit triceps before an arm workout lol) (never pinned tri's but it was good) Anyways, 10 days of 250mg - 300 mg ED, that's around 2 grams of fucking tren ace a week!! LONG STORY SHORT: AGAIN, NO SIDES, NO HARDNESS, NO VEINS, NO PUMPS, NO STRENGTH, NO FAT LOSS, NO AGGRESSION, no cough, sweats, DON"T FEEL A GOD DAMN THING!! So, verdict is in, I'm a fucking non-responder to tren. Beyond pissed at this point.
Like I've stated before, I think I even might be a non-responder to all hormones TBH. As I've mentioned previous, Superdrol 30mg a day nothing- NO PUMPS, minimal strength, NO SIDES etc. (worked a little bit, I think) I'm up to 125 mg ephdrina, (Bronkaid) now- don't feel a thing lol...
For those that don't think it's possible or whatever- I myself FIND IT SO HARD TO BELIEVE TOO- I MEAN WTF!! Anyways, for those that are interested at all, or have interest in pharmacoligy, sciences, hormones
etc, or for those that are just bored check this thread out- It gave me a little insight on my situation- TBH, it could be bullshit, it could not, but I DO KNOW FOR SURE: I think I have a problem lol..
Here it is: (it's really long, but a good/interesting read) http://forums.steroid.com/archive/index.php/t-262982.html (http://forums.steroid.com/archive/index.php/t-262982.html)
I have some npp and anadrol (never used them before) So I will be trying those real soon and see if I get some effects/results. I just dropped test prop (sm pp)- didn't feel a thing- I'm going to try it again high dose though- I was only doing 350- 600 a week (Hopefully I respond to test lol) Could be bunk though? Werid though, my nuts are the size of grapes, so I don't know wtf is going on- but no increase sex drive, no strength etc from the test- never really notices much from test before either in the past- So, I will use 1 -1.5 grams also pretty soon and see how it goes.
Anyways, sorry for the long ass post, but just thought I'd let you good fellas know!! And, if ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT at all, please let me know!! I'm probably going to see a doctor TBH, (in the article, it states that high estro, messed up thyroid/ blood glucose might be the cause of the non-response) Don't feel like I have high estro, or anything- I've ALWAYS been healthy- no problems medically etc ect etc... Diet/training are good too etc etc...
I will keep you guys updated in the future about the anadrol and Npp and high dose test..
you use Bunk ;)
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Some guys do have androgen insensitivety syndrome.There's varying degrees of the disorder. He may have had "mild androgen insensitivety". Or taken Propecia. Know some guys who don't respond to hormones in any amount. I wouldn't completely discredit him.
http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/commonly-used-drug-can-make-men-stop-enjoying-sex-irreversibly?akid=12007.24430.8x6wlm&rd=1&src=newsletter1010773&t=4
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Some guys do have androgen insensitivety syndrome.There's varying degrees of the disorder. He may have had "mild androgen insensitivety". Or taken Propecia. Know some guys who don't respond to hormones in any amount. I wouldn't completely discredit him.
http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/commonly-used-drug-can-make-men-stop-enjoying-sex-irreversibly?akid=12007.24430.8x6wlm&rd=1&src=newsletter1010773&t=4
haha, I just read the link, didn't click on it or read the article, just the link, and felt fear for the first time in a very long time
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If you made it from fina and you are a good cook and your not responding.
YOU NEED TO STOP BODYBUILDING AND GO AND LEARN TO DO SOMETHING ELSE YOU MUST BE SUPERMAN IFF YOU DONT RESPOND TO TREN, MUST BE SUPERMAN WITH A BODY DIFFERENT TO THE REST OF HUMAN KIND.
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BUT WHAT i really belif is your a dirty lier.