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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: NeilGM on March 10, 2012, 11:03:27 PM
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Has anyone run high doses (1200mg-1500mg) of Bold/Eq along with a low dose of test etc? If so what was the results??
Im running Tren A, Bold, Npp and Test Eth at the moment.
I got 60 days left of Npp and then I will take out and bump up the bold then I got another 40 days of Tren and when that runs out I was thinking of trying to bump up the Bold and run it with a low dose of Test by it's self to give me a break from heavy androgens for a few weeks and then throw the Tren back in. How do you think that would hold up or can you suggest something better?
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I've used 900 mg equi/week with 50 mg test prop EOD before, and I liked it! Made my shoulders look insane. I wasn't even that lean when I ran it then, so if you're lean you'll probably love it.
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I've used 900 mg equi/week with 50 mg test prop EOD before, and I liked it! Made my shoulders look insane. I wasn't even that lean when I ran it then, so if you're lean you'll probably love it.
Hmm I am stuck between a few ideas... I got 60 days of running 50mg ED NPP, 75mg ED Tren A, 325mg Week Test Eth and 600mg Week Bold then I dropping the NPP out and taking up the Tren to 100mg ED.
Now I was either going to run 100mg ED of each of Mast, Tren A and Test P or Take up the Bold to 1200mg, Leave Tren A at 700mg and Leave Test Eth at 350mg and run this for about 130 days then go from there really.. Not sure?
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300mg mast 600mg tren 900mg EQ and 600 test prop..... take your HGH :)
hope this help
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300mg mast 600mg tren 900mg EQ and 600 test prop..... take your HGH :)
hope this help
Cant afford the growth at the moment..but we will see in the future if i decide i want to do it
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How do you like the npp bro. I've got a bunch of stangers npp sitting here waiting to be cracked open ;D
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currently running peepees eq @ 900/wk so far so good can't say much yet 4wks in, but my endurance in hte gym increased no heavy breathing basically
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How do you like the npp bro. I've got a bunch of stangers npp sitting here waiting to be cracked open ;D
It nice at that low doseage stacke up, gives the muscles a nice full look. Speeded up my recovery rate allot to. I rate it allot to be honest, not sure what would happen with higher doses with tren ace..
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currently running peepees eq @ 900/wk so far so good can't say much yet 4wks in, but my endurance in hte gym increased no heavy breathing basically
Its a weird one Bold, you dont really know its there, it just runs in the background nicely and slowly.. It was making me think that what GH15 was saying about high doses of Primo work well although it is rated as mild by many users as they do not use enough, well possible high doses of Bold may be the same as that is rated as mild as well. So was wondering what 1200-1500mg a week would deliver stacked with other compounds at lower doseages
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Hmm I am stuck between a few ideas... I got 60 days of running 50mg ED NPP, 75mg ED Tren A, 325mg Week Test Eth and 600mg Week Bold then I dropping the NPP out and taking up the Tren to 100mg ED.
Now I was either going to run 100mg ED of each of Mast, Tren A and Test P or Take up the Bold to 1200mg, Leave Tren A at 700mg and Leave Test Eth at 350mg and run this for about 130 days then go from there really.. Not sure?
what are your goals? definitely get that tren up to at least 100 mg daily.
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My thoughts on eq its good if your already at a good size but for a average gym rat like myself not so good. Just doesn't add much strength size also can cause anxiety. Better for someone actually trying to get on stage then not. Its just a weak steroid mg for mg. It would prolly take 1200-1500mg to get any decent size gains from.
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what are your goals? definitely get that tren up to at least 100 mg daily.
Yeah I will be doing that. At the moment I am leaning out day by day shape starting to come through and I am filling out slowly as well. Steady lean build. Aiming for 14lbs solid gains over the forth comming months. Don't want to bloat, want to fill out but look as hard as I can get with AAS. I used to do allot of heavy bulking and cutting in the past and to be honest I don't like it, too much weight shifting and dont spend enough time feeling happy with my look that way as I am very picky about what I consider a good look..I blow up very quickly on high doses of test, deca, d.bol etc but it puts too much water on me and ruins my lines. I have to stick to budget got a new house and baby that draining me like mad at the mo so can't afford growth etc but was having a play around with the thoughts a doseages today and I was thinking this would be good for the job when I finish this gear I got here:
Take the Tren Ace up 700mg Week, Mast 600mg Week and Test P at 700mg a Week
I got a holiday in June and Sept I wanna be in good shape for.
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My thoughts on eq its good if your already at a good size but for a average gym rat like myself not so good. Just doesn't add much strength size also can cause anxiety. Better for someone actually trying to get on stage then not. Its just a weak steroid mg for mg. It would prolly take 1200-1500mg to get any decent size gains from.
I like it in the back ground but it is slow and steady, was curious what those high doses would do if anything special at all?
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Good move, Neil. Life is so much better when you're big and lean instead of bigger but bloofy.
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Good move, Neil. Life is so much better when you're big and lean instead of bigger but bloofy.
Tell me about it. Dont matter how big you look in a T-shirt, its what you look like with it off that counts. I got patience I dont mind waiting as long as the results come steadily.
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Once you up the tren to 100 mg ED magical things will happen, trust me. Starve yourself a bit, do some cardio and watch the veins pop out and the abs come out to play. You'll love it!
By the way, are you using the fella who can't be named now?
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Once you up the tren to 100 mg ED magical things will happen, trust me. Starve yourself a bit, do some cardio and watch the veins pop out and the abs come out to play. You'll love it!
By the way, are you using the fella who can't be named now?
I already love it, I made the fastest gains I ever made in terms of real shape. I think another 3-4 months and I will be bang on. Im lucky I got a good natural shape, just a lagging chest at the mo, but betime I brought that up and leaned out more I should look very good. Still my local guy, he only slightly dearer if I spend the bulk I was going to spend with Secret Squirral betime you added shipping and transfer feeds so for time being I going to carry on using him for the time being, however I am interested in using him. Just only concern is they are on about changing the laws for mail order from abroad with roids so I want to keep my guy sweet as if they do it will be risky business from off shore
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Ah, right. Well as long as your gear is not bunk or underdosed it doesn't really matter who you get it from all that much!
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Solid advices right here. Can you share what you've decided Neil ?
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Ah, right. Well as long as your gear is not bunk or underdosed it doesn't really matter who you get it from all that much!
Good not to keep all your eggs in one basket. You was saying the other day about some of his products being short in the bottle by a couple of ml, that put me off a bit to be honest.
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Solid advices right here. Can you share what you've decided Neil ?
Yeah I will do defo. I got some plans what I want to do so other people can see, but got to get to where I want to be and I will be doing some interesting postings
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Good not to keep all your eggs in one basket. You was saying the other day about some of his products being short in the bottle by a couple of ml, that put me off a bit to be honest.
Yes, I noticed I only got 7 - 8 injections with his tren ace, so around 7 - 8 ml/vial. The stuff is still potent as fuck, and for the price I got it at it's no biggie. That's his SM line, Oxide is perfectly dosed.
Good luck either way and keep us updated!
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Yes, I noticed I only got 7 - 8 injections with his tren ace, so around 7 - 8 ml/vial. The stuff is still potent as fuck, and for the price I got it at it's no biggie. That's his SM line, Oxide is perfectly dosed.
Good luck either way and keep us updated!
Will do bud
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Once you up the tren to 100 mg ED magical things will happen, trust me. Starve yourself a bit, do some cardio and watch the veins pop out and the abs come out to play. You'll love it!
By the way, are you using the fella who can't be named now?
This is great advice! I do it this way too 100mg ED Tren Ace usually a few months on then short break for few weeks then back on for awhile
Did my last shot of tren on saturday and monday I just started 500mg Sust, 1000mg EQ. Probably do this for 6 weeks or so, probably toss somethin else in too. Just takin a break from tren few weeks
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Yeah I will do a break but not yet I got more magic to come yet lol. Just took my time with the dosing I started at 50mg EOD for a few weeks then took it up slowly.
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Has anyone run high doses (1200mg-1500mg) of Bold/Eq along with a low dose of test etc? If so what was the results??
Im running Tren A, Bold, Npp and Test Eth at the moment.
I got 60 days left of Npp and then I will take out and bump up the bold then I got another 40 days of Tren and when that runs out I was thinking of trying to bump up the Bold and run it with a low dose of Test by it's self to give me a break from heavy androgens for a few weeks and then throw the Tren back in. How do you think that would hold up or can you suggest something better?
yeah i have done multiple blasts of 1200 mg EQ with very little test (350 mg sustanon).
it is a lean, veiny look and it supports all the lean muscle from any previous blast which included better (in my opinion) compounds.
i sort of use EQ during my cruises now a days, because i don't love mixing high dose tren with high dose EQ. this is one combination that makes me a bit nervous in weird situations like waiting to get my laundry.
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I was thinking of leaving it for when I drop the Tren out in future.. the big word being when lol
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Yeah I will do a break but not yet I got more magic to come yet lol. Just took my time with the dosing I started at 50mg EOD for a few weeks then took it up slowly.
I find the longer you're on tren, the more quality you keep adding. No downregulation and no bad sides are a plus for me
yeah i like to use it when im not on tren. eq is kind've mild, so on tren i don't even see a difference if it's there or not :-\ ...i dropped it mid prep for provincials in nov. and didn't see any difference, tren was the only thing i really counted on that much(low test and low mast w/ it, rest was fat burners and gh)
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Would adding EQ when getting ready for a show, add or detract from the physique? I mean I'm 6 weeks out now and wondering if I should add it in? Presently just on mast tren test prop on 50/50/50 EOD? Would the long ester of EQ not produce some unwanted water retention? ???
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Would adding EQ when getting ready for a show, add or detract from the physique? I mean I'm 6 weeks out now and wondering if I should add it in? Presently just on mast tren test prop on 50/50/50 EOD? Would the long ester of EQ not produce some unwanted water retention? ???
That little for a show? You running allot of growth with that?
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I find the longer you're on tren, the more quality you keep adding. No downregulation and no bad sides are a plus for me
yeah i like to use it when im not on tren. eq is kind've mild, so on tren i don't even see a difference if it's there or not :-\ ...i dropped it mid prep for provincials in nov. and didn't see any difference, tren was the only thing i really counted on that much(low test and low mast w/ it, rest was fat burners and gh)
Im going to pull it out when I finsh the batch I got and use it for cruise in the future
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Basically its a show that is very poorly attended so I know the competition and who normally competes there! I have put on a good solid 14 pounds on my last blast so these doseages are kind of a cruise for me but I am holding the size I have built and just want to see the difference I have made cut down to 5-6%. I also want to try a few things like adding anadrol last few weeks and maybe adding EQ in. Got gh in at 8ius clen at 40cmg with effedrine at 60cmg and for the first time thinking if running some t3 as well. Want to try all this out on a kind of mini cut before I blast it again for the nationals at the end of the year!
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Fair enough, it working well?
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Fair enough, it working well?
Yes bro but been cruising for about 8 weeks now and probably going to up the doseage for the last 6 weeks! That was why i was thinking of adding the Eq along side but dont know if i should be mixing long and short esters pre contest ? I have never done that before but i am guessing Eq might be ok? I got some descent chinese gh now as well which is working well for me after my bad kig experience!
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Well I am not the one to advise you on Bold before contest but it does tak 4-5 weeks to really get going from my exp with it
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Yes that's why i thought 6 weeks on it might have an effect by the end. One think I am not is very vascular so I was banking on the EQ helping me with this as well! Just starting take proviron 2 days and armadex once every third day. The armadex tends to flatten me out if I take it very day but if I throw 2 days of proviron in between it seems to prevent this without losing any of the positive effects of the drug.
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Yes that's why i thought 6 weeks on it might have an effect by the end. One think I am not is very vascular so I was banking on the EQ helping me with this as well! Just starting take proviron 2 days and armadex once every third day. The armadex tends to flatten me out if I take it very day but if I throw 2 days of proviron in between it seems to prevent this without losing any of the positive effects of the drug.
Could be worth a gamble, wonder if any other guys with more exp can give some input?
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Could be worth a gamble, wonder if any other guys with more exp can give some input?
Yes it's only a little show possibly 3 in each class that sort of thing so not really getting it too seriously especially since I am really only on a cruise or just coming off a cruise but yes would like to hear some opinions on this from experienced board members if it sounds reasonably or not?
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Interesting article on high dose EQ
http://www.ironmagazine.com/2012/boldenone-realizing-its-full-potential/
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EQ tends to reach its optimal dosing range much later on…around 2 grams per week (great results will be found between 1.5-3.0 grams). Of course, all steroids will continue to activate more receptor sites (and thus provide greater muscle growth), up until about 3,500 mg per week, but with Boldenone, it seems that the gains are just starting to get good at 1 gram weekly, while most other AAS seem to be nearly tapped out by that point, quickly hitting the point of diminishing returns.
So that article says to use almost a whole bottle of EQ weekly .. what a shit drug lol
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Yeh its weak but its said its still safe in mega doses
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EQ used at 2-3g works really well....
None remembers CONCRETE GUY? He was advocating big doses of EQ.
If you aim to use it alone, imho you will be not satisfied since it needs a good dose of estrogens for base of growth, EQ even at 3g doesn't raise enough E2.
I would use something like: 300 TestE+ 400 MastE+ 2-3g EQ
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low dose eq works very well.... u don't need high dosages of anything.
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If you need 2g of a compound to see good results the said compound is shit.
EQ is a crappy steroid unless you happen to respond amazingly to it which very few people do.
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I'm not sufficiently convinced that it does anything special
growing lean, solid muscle slowly with no bloat, getting shredded and vascular? yeah its called deca no test.
steroids stop being "cheap" once you start getting into the grams per week range, so i'd want some mighty strong convincing that EQ isn't just a weak drug burning a hole in your pocket needlessly.
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deca
deca the dick killer is the worst steroid ever invented.
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deca the dick killer is the worst steroid ever invented.
that is bs, actually lol... SD is prob the worst
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I'm not sufficiently convinced that it does anything special
growing lean, solid muscle slowly with no bloat, getting shredded and vascular? yeah its called deca no test.
steroids stop being "cheap" once you start getting into the grams per week range, so i'd want some mighty strong convincing that EQ isn't just a weak drug burning a hole in your pocket needlessly.
You can do that on anything as long as you dont pig out.
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1.5g per week? How many ml are we talking here? At 4ml per week I feel like a lumpy pin cushion. I can’t imagine what it would feel like after say 10 ml per week of gear. Not sustainable at all. As far as eq is concerned, I’d say be careful. My rbc count and hemoglobin we’re through the roof on it. Your blood will turn to syrup if you aren’t careful. You will look like you have a blood disorder with all the veins that will pop out. My forearms are dead giveaways.
I dropped it three weeks ago and the inside of my thighs are still covered with large popping veins. Dry vascular gains is what To expect from eq. Little to no water, and possibly weak AI properties. It will give you a look that makes you stand out from the rest. Grainy and vascular. At 1.5g you don’t need to frontload. Lol. Your blood levels will skyrocket within an our. I would think the solution would be pretty thick to get a dosage that high per week. What’s the mg per ml we are talking to get that high a dose? 400mg? I doubt you will feel well on that dose. Definitely flu like symptoms and lethargy.
Your rbc count will skyrocket and continue to climb until you drop such a large dose. Could get dangerous within a month or two (or sooner). I would get CBC before ever thinking of that dose. Have you ever seen eq raw in person? Looks like honey only thicker and smells funny. It doesn’t wash off your hand with soap either. It wears off in an hour or so. Probably too much info. I am very familiar with it. Never at that dose. Done many 500-800mg runs with test e the same for years off and on. I have recently gotten sick of it and switched to deca. Your dosages scare me. Lol.
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Anyone figure out to deal with the anxiety side that comes with it for some people?
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2-3 grams ? Wtf 600mg of Ed is just fine, maybe 800
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2-3 grams ? Wtf 600mg of Ed is just fine, maybe 800
you mean every week right ? :D
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Yes my mistake lol.
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From A meso article 2003:Posted by tyhigs on Steroidology.com
Q1: Mr. Rea: In your description of equipoise (In the book Chemical Muscle Enhancement) you said that long-term use of this AAS for a lengthy protocol gave you an "unfavorable CBC result." What kind of result is this and how long is too long to remain on EQ.
A1: I neither endorse nor condemn the use of AAS (Anabolic Androgenic Steroid) and related chemistries though I have dedicated many years to understanding their unique mechanisms. However, I do have a real problem with issues of health sabotaging protocols destructive simply by design without forethought. Maximum progress can be obtained without tempting death.
A simple CBC (Complete Blood Count) can help anyone avoid health problems of many origins…not only from AAS use.
In the case of boldenone (Equipoise), the length of administration resulting in excessive and dangerous red blood cell count was dose dependent. Most have shown only acceptable upregulation at dosages of 200-400mg/w (@ 1-2mg per pound of bodyweight) for up to 12 weeks. However, dosages of 600-800mg/w (3-4mg per pound of body weight) usually resulted in exceeding the upper "safer" levels for red blood cell count after only 4-6 weeks of employment. This is a real concern. Red blood cell count elevation can result in blood clots, strokes and circulatory depreciation.
Many precontest athletes using longer AAS protocols have avoided this concern by using:
Lower dosages.
A 50/25/25 division between boldenone/nandrolone/Masteron (nandrolone draws water and Masterone mediates it).
Using the higher dosage range only the last 4 weeks precontest.
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/rea/030519.htm
" The average life cycle of a red blood cell is 120 days. "
Real EQ is a very good stuff, one of the best but dont overuse it....
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Currently running 400 eq and it’s way more than enough lol
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Currently running 400 eq and it’s way more than enough lol
If it's Veternarian ofc..... I am using 1250mg of UGL one and it's nice.
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It gave me crazy anxiety 17.5 weeks in at 500 so i dropped it. Results were mind fkn. I wish there was no anxiety sides. Once you drop it, you immediately lose that nice touch of vascularity, delt pop and nice skin hue
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no hair loss ?
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Yeah, crazy hairloss
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Real Eq 200mg/ml Peso Pesado 200