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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: dfresh on March 12, 2012, 12:24:24 PM
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alright here's whats going on. currently on test e with about 5weeks left, i have some prop/ace coming that im going to run after test e....i guess you could say its one long cycle lol ;D
my first question is what should i do when the prop/ace arrive? i was gonna run them at 100mg eod, the tren im gonna start at 50mg though and go from there...what should i do with the test e?
next question is i have some dnp im thinking of using for a couple weeks to lean out some before i start tren/prop...maybe run dnp 2-3 weeks, drop dnp then start up the prp/ace
what should i do lol?!
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finish test e with dnp,start prop and trenbolone without dnp...
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lol my exact plans...didnt you comment in the "dnp isnt that bad" thread about this lol
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how about 100mg test eod and 100mg tren eod, alternating back and forth
day 1 prop 100mg
day 2 tren 100mg
day 3 prop 100mg
ect ect
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how about 100mg test eod and 100mg tren eod, alternating back and forth
day 1 prop 100mg
day 2 tren 100mg
day 3 prop 100mg
ect ect
hmm explain? not disagreeing just never seen a cycle set up like this
oh btw you didnt answer all my questions! >:(
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explain ?
umm
monday= prop
tuesday= tren
wednesday= prop
thursday= tren
friday= prop
saturday= tren
sunday=prop
etc
nothing to explain really
as fgor your other questions.... just keep running the test untill its finished... you can start up the dnp whenever you fe like.. id probably just go with 200mg per day...
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explain ?
umm
monday= prop
tuesday= tren
wednesday= prop
thursday= tren
friday= prop
saturday= tren
sunday=prop
etc
nothing to explain really
as fgor your other questions.... just keep running the test untill its finished... you can start up the dnp whenever you fe like.. id probably just go with 200mg per day...
lol i get that! i mean why ed like that, why not EOD?
and yea im gonna run 250mg ed dnp, thats what mine are dosed at
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also im taking test at 500mg a week, shouldnt i back it down once prop arrives? dont want 800-900mg of test a week lol!
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Finish the test cycle.
Wait 3 or 4 weeks........It may not seem like much but it'll do you good. And you wont lose any gains. But it'll give you a break from pinning, give your body a break from the hormones, let your blood pressure get back to normal, and you'll feel fresh. But its not long enough to lose any gains.
Then do 75mg tren/100mg prop eod. Or 100mgs of ea eod.
And why are u doing the dnp? Are u going to compete? Are u really overweight? If not id just let the tren and your diet do the fat burning and save the dnp for when you want to get shredded.
Just keep things simple bro.
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Finish the test cycle.
Wait 3 or 4 weeks........It may not seem like much but it'll do you good. And you wont lose any gains. But it'll give you a break from pinning, give your body a break from the hormones, let your blood pressure get back to normal, and you'll feel fresh. But its not long enough to lose any gains.
Then do 75mg tren/100mg prop eod. Or 100mgs of ea eod.
And why are u doing the dnp? Are u going to compete? Are u really overweight? If not id just let the tren and your diet do the fat burning and save the dnp for when you want to get shredded.
Just keep things simple bro.
hey man i like the keep it simple approach lol. as far as dnp i wanna drop some fat before starting prop/tren... i would imagine id benefit more from the tren if i was leaner...i know i would lol
ive researched the hell out of it, if i did i would only be doing 250mg for 2-3 weeks
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hey man i like the keep it simple approach lol. as far as dnp i wanna drop some fat before starting prop/tren... i would imagine id benefit more from the tren if i was leaner...i know i would lol
ive researched the hell out of it, if i did i would only be doing 250mg for 2-3 weeks
If your only running it for 2-3 weeks dont even waist your money. Other than strength you arent going to get much off a 3 week run. When the tren stops the strength gains go as well.
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If your only running it for 2-3 weeks dont even waist your money. Other than strength you arent going to get much off a 3 week run. When the tren stops the strength gains go as well.
lol the dnp not tren
tren im running 12 weeks
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hey man i like the keep it simple approach lol. as far as dnp i wanna drop some fat before starting prop/tren... i would imagine id benefit more from the tren if i was leaner...i know i would lol
ive researched the hell out of it, if i did i would only be doing 250mg for 2-3 weeks
How fat are u?
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How fat are u?
prob fat as hell according to some here lol....id say 17-18% bf,idk how well you can tell from my avi
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lol the dnp not tren
tren im running 12 weeks
Ahh ok sorry or misunderstanding lol Good man, thats a good run with tren.
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lol i get that! i mean why ed like that, why not EOD?
and yea im gonna run 250mg ed dnp, thats what mine are dosed at
everyday provides more stable levels of hormone than every other day..
alternating back and forth could possibly help prevent your body from becoming accustom to the hormones..
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Ahh ok sorry or misunderstanding lol Good man, thats a good run with tren.
lol and you got an ideas how i should set all this up as described in my OP?
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everyday provides more stable levels of hormone than every other day..
alternating back and forth could possibly help prevent your body from becoming accustom to the hormones..
but eod is definitely fine lol
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but eod is definitely fine lol
your doing everything fine dfresh Hope you get to at least >12% before summer I think you should as long as you dont power eat on cycle. If you basal calories is 3000 stay near it maybe hair over 3100-3200 drugs dont need food to work. I like to eat and be strong so It always pains me to go to 10% to.
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your doing everything fine dfresh Hope you get to at least >12% before summer I think you should as long as you dont power eat on cycle. If you basal calories is 3000 stay near it maybe hair over 3100-3200 drugs dont need food to work. I like to eat and be strong so It always pains me to go to 10% to.
thanks bro im starting to get the hang of this haha, im learning!
so my plan seems solid?..... add dnp to my current cycle of test e, run dnp for idk say 2-3 weeks at 250mg... then when prop/ace arrive im still deciding whether to just drop the test e and start prop/ace or continue running it and add the other two as well?
this just seems like too much test for the small amount of tren im running...which is why im leaning towards just stopping the test e and saving it for a later date, then start prop/ace when they get here
now should i leave a certain amount of time between finishing dnp and starting ace/prop or doesnt it matter...seems leaving like a week in between could give me the rebound effect from discontinuing dnp which would be a nice kick start for tren! :D
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prob fat as hell according to some here lol....id say 17-18% bf,idk how well you can tell from my avi
Sounds like you just really need to fix your diet instead of doing dnp.
Save the dnp for when you want to get really shredded.
If your 17% then your gonna lose alot of fat just with dietary changes alone. I dont see the need for dnp with that high of a level of bodyfat.
Just my 2 cents.
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more answers! ;D
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Sounds like you just really need to fix your diet instead of doing dnp.
Save the dnp for when you want to get really shredded.
If your 17% then your gonna lose alot of fat just with dietary changes alone. I dont see the need for dnp with that high of a level of bodyfat.
Just my 2 cents.
while im sure tren will lean me out, i just thought dnp before hand would be a nice way to cruise into my tren/prop a leaner meaner me ;)
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anyone ???
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explain ?
umm
monday= prop
tuesday= tren
wednesday= prop
thursday= tren
friday= prop
saturday= tren
sunday=prop
etc
nothing to explain really
as fgor your other questions.... just keep running the test untill its finished... you can start up the dnp whenever you fe like.. id probably just go with 200mg per day...
Pin every day rather than every other day if you can do it, will keep your blood levels more stable
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anyone ???
Personally I would start with you Tren Ace at 50mg ED and add 50mg ED of Test P if you have only done smaller doses.. after a number weeks (say 6-8)as long as you intend to stay on this for a bit then throw in some Eq/Bold at 400-600mg and keep going and keep watcching the changes come in. Gradually if you staying on rise the Tren 25mg at a time over the forth comming months and rise the bold 150-200mg a time and keep your test at 350mg a week.
Im pretty new to Tren Ace, but the others I had allot of experience with. Been on the Ace now for several months and at the mo I on 75mg a day and making nice solid steady changes and eating like a horse.
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Personally I would start with you Tren Ace at 50mg ED and add 50mg ED of Test P if you have only done smaller doses.. after a number weeks (say 6-8)as long as you intend to stay on this for a bit then throw in some Eq/Bold at 400-600mg and keep going and keep watcching the changes come in. Gradually if you staying on rise the Tren 25mg at a time over the forth comming months and rise the bold 150-200mg a time and keep your test at 350mg a week.
Im pretty new to Tren Ace, but the others I had allot of experience with. Been on the Ace now for several months and at the mo I on 75mg a day and making nice solid steady changes and eating like a horse.
yea my only exp is with test e 500mg a week, have about 4-5 weeks left on my first cycle.
plan was to finish that then start the prop/ace...prop 100mg eod/ace 50 eod...then eventually bump to 100mg.
on the fence about dnp, the getbiggers are talking me out of it lol, well most of them... and maybe the tren is really all i need, still deciding on that one
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Take it you want to use DNP to loose fat/water weight and lean out..
The Tren is very powerful, it pretty much binds to the fat and melts it away slowly whilst taking the water from between the skin and putting it into the muscle. You don't need DNP, stay away from it. All you have to remember is test will fade lines due to water retention so me personally with your lack of experiance I would keep the test at 50mg ED and start with that as it will keep you feeling good, keep the muscle full but shouldnt fade your lines as they start to come through, you will be running 350mg a week of each so a little more than your 500mg of test but remember Tren is about 4 times more androgenic and anabolic that Test so it is allot stronger mg for mg. Start here and build up. There are better choices for filling out that using Test when takin AAS alone. NPP & Bold are very good at giving steady size without too much bloat. You would be better to add these than up your test for a lean build.. Dont get me wrong test can be great but from what your saying about DNP then I guess you want to harden up so keep the test low for the time being.
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Take it you want to use DNP to loose fat/water weight and lean out..
The Tren is very powerful, it pretty much binds to the fat and melts it away slowly whilst taking the water from between the skin and putting it into the muscle. You don't need DNP, stay away from it. All you have to remember is test will fade lines due to water retention so me personally with your lack of experiance I would keep the test at 50mg ED and start with that as it will keep you feeling good, keep the muscle full but shouldnt fade your lines as they start to come through, you will be running 350mg a week of each so a little more than your 500mg of test but remember Tren is about 4 times more androgenic and anabolic that Test so it is allot stronger mg for mg. Start here and build up. There are better choices for filling out that using Test when takin AAS alone. NPP & Bold are very good at giving steady size without too much bloat. You would be better to add these than up your test for a lean build.. Dont get me wrong test can be great but from what your saying about DNP then I guess you want to harden up so keep the test low for the time being.
yea im not really getting too much from test e...gonna finish it up and be done with it. then i'll start test prop/tren ace
my plan was maybe use dnp last few weeks of my current test cycle to lean up, then stop before i start my tren/prop
not too crazy about test solo, so my only test will be the prop(300-400mg a week) not getting more test e...i do not care for it lol..but now i know, sucks if i would of knew this before i woulda just jumped into prop/ace to begin with!
but wanted to do it "right" for my first injectable cycle :-\
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yea im not really getting too much from test e...gonna finish it up and be done with it. then i'll start test prop/tren ace
my plan was maybe use dnp last few weeks of my current test cycle to lean up, then stop before i start my tren/prop
not too crazy about test solo, so my only test will be the prop(300-400mg a week) not getting more test e...i do not care for it lol..but now i know, sucks if i would of knew this before i woulda just jumped into prop/ace to begin with!
but wanted to do it "right" for my first injectable cycle :-\
I ike test eth when you run it with other compounds, you just got to play around with the doses depending on what your goals are. At the mo I running it at 325mg a week with Bold 600mg a week, 50mg NPP a day and 75mg Tren A a day, Got 60 days of this then NPP out, Tren ace up 25mg and another 30 days of that then I am not too sure what I am doing yet, get several ideas
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I ike test eth when you run it with other compounds, you just got to play around with the doses depending on what your goals are. At the mo I running it at 325mg a week with Bold 600mg a week, 50mg NPP a day and 75mg Tren A a day, Got 60 days of this then NPP out, Tren ace up 25mg and another 30 days of that then I am not too sure what I am doing yet, get several ideas
so no DNP?.... just finish my test then start prop/ace would be the plan
if i use DNP id use it last few weeks of test, then drop before i start prop/ace
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You don't need DNP, you need to have patience and keep certain compounds in the blood and you will lean out. Trust me tren is the way to go, im making the best quality gains ever off this stuff.
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if your going the ed route, id do 50 and 50 combo everyday rather 100 prop alternating 100 tren eod. It'll keep those levels even better.
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What's wrong with 100mg eod of each? Well 50mg eod of tren to start.
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What's wrong with 100mg eod of each? Well 50mg eod of tren to start.
Nothing but if you keep your blood levels stable you will get better results and less sides. Every day is best if you can do it
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Nothing but if you keep your blood levels stable you will get better results and less sides. Every day is best if you can do it
So I would just keep each at 50mg ed if I went that route. 350mg tren a week should be plenty lol
Yea the only thing I'm worried about is not being too lean right now I'm prob around 17% bf id say.
That was my reason for dnp so I could lean out some before tren... But you're sayin tren is all I need huh
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so no dnp needed is the general consensus here?!
finish my test e...then start prop/ace at either 50mg ed or 100mg eod of each..sound right?
again id start the tren at 50mg to see how i react then bump to 100 eventually
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so no dnp needed is the general consensus here?!
finish my test e...then start prop/ace at either 50mg ed or 100mg eod of each..sound right?
again id start the tren at 50mg to see how i react then bump to 100 eventually
Run it low EOD for a week or two to ease onto it if your concerend about how you feel on it (I did this) and then take it up.
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Run it low EOD for a week or two to ease onto it if your concerend about how you feel on it (I did this) and then take it up.
yea starting at 50mg eod then after a few weeks prob go to 100
hoping this tren is worth it...you sure i'll benefit not being too lean at the moment?!
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yea starting at 50mg eod then after a few weeks prob go to 100
hoping this tren is worth it...you sure i'll benefit not being too lean at the moment?!
Tren is as good as it gets as far as AAS go. Its very good. Start there, keep it in build it up with other compounds depending on what your trying to do.
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Tren is as good as it gets as far as AAS go. Its very good. Start there, keep it in build it up with other compounds depending on what your trying to do.
Yea the plan is get leaner. Then GROW lean
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what about possible prolactin gyno from tren? i have nolva and letro on hand...this enough?
or do i need to get some caber/dostinex or whatever?
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You will not need it. Mast is used for est control. 50mg every 3rd day is enough if you was to have problems, however you wouls have to be highly sensitive to est to suffer with it at those doses. I would suggest you read GH15's bible. It got everything in there for you. These you have been using is one of the compounds that converts directly into the most est. Tren does not convert directly, it can through a negative feed back loop but that is another storey.
It is persistance (regular use) with quality compounds, regular training and steady diet that produce gains. If you cycle steroids on/off your going to Yo-yo up and down with your water, fat and muscle mass as the body cannot maintain these states naturally once you get over your genetic limitations (natural).
Compounds that always need to be there to produce that hard, bodybulder look are Tren/Mast/Primo or all of these in specific combinations. These are what are used to get lean and take out water from between the skin and muscle. Proviron is used for water and weight control also but I do not have much exeriance using it for weight loss, just water control.
You always need test there to keep you functioning and feelin good. Now test converts to est so you will get water retention (faded lines to bloated) at higher doses. These doses depend on how your body responds to it. 250mg-350mg is a good starting point. I like Test Eth and Prop. Eth is more bang for buck in my opinion and I do not really notice any difference until higher doses are used. The good thing with Prop is it is in and out fast so easy to drop out if you get sides. If you wanna add size, bang the test up, this is best done from lean as you will still look good.
You have compounds the can be run in the back ground that add size. Deca/NPP/Bold. Now deca produces allot of water retention with me so I don't like to use it, however bold is a very steady builder, bult mild and NPP is nice as it gives the muscles fullness and again is a short ester.
You also can cycle to Test out from time to time and run orals. Two great things for filling out are D.Bol/Androl. Again best doing this when lean as you will bloat otherwise. Androl the best in my opinion, blows you up big and strong very quickly.
So the general idea is to use test always unless running the orals stated for a limited amount of time. Run something in the background like NPP or Bold for steady size and use compounds such as Tren/Mast/Primo or combinations of these for the look. It will take time, not going to come over night, you must be patient. You gradually take the doses up and if you take one thing out you take another thing up to keep the doseages in the same area. This will give you that roid look in time.
You can stack Test, Deca & D.bol etc and grow very big but you will be bloofy and not look good with a T-shirt. This good for raw size but not good for the look. With a very clean diet you can look good on this but never as good as you will when taking Tren/Mast/Primo.
Personally you want to stick to Tren as it more affordable than primo and as you up you doseage use mast for est control or along with tren to help with the granite look.
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well i guess no dnp...gonna just let the tren transform me..at least it better lol
thank you neilgm..my man!
finishing my test e, then starting prop/tren.... i know im gonna wanna start that tren as soon as it arrives at my doorstep tho lol... finish test e first or just run it with my ace/prop. that is the question?
if i run it with those i'll prob just do 250mg on mondays..instead of my normal mon/thurs shots
that gives me 550-650mg of test a week...should be plenty.
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if your going the ed route, id do 50 and 50 combo everyday rather 100 prop alternating 100 tren eod. It'll keep those levels even better.
yeah i agree with this
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Yea the plan is get leaner. Then GROW lean
Do this plus the advice in this thread. I can't add anything else that'll help. Already awesome advices.
Wait till the tren really starts peeling the fat off. It's amazing. Growing lean is the only fucking way to go!
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Do this plus the advice in this thread. I can't add anything else that'll help. Already awesome advices.
Wait till the tren really starts peeling the fat off. It's amazing. Growing lean is the only fucking way to go!
hey thanks for the reply brotha. as i said before though im not as lean as id like to be right now, i know tren works better on leaner people. hopefully it'll do the trick though
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bf in your avatar looks about 14-15% maybe lower if you are on test in that picture and holding water. i dunno
i'd just run the tren as high as i could and cut down more aggressively. i don't know when that picture was taken but if you are running dnp for a month straight you should be at single digit bodyfat by now.
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bf in your avatar looks about 14-15% maybe lower if you are on test in that picture and holding water. i dunno
i'd just run the tren as high as i could and cut down more aggressively. i don't know when that picture was taken but if you are running dnp for a month straight you should be at single digit bodyfat by now.
no im not on dnp lol!
but yea i think im gonna hold off and just stick to tren
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GETTING AMPED TO START TREN!
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you have a lot of potential to change your body quicky as your bf is over 15% once you get to 12-11 you will look so much better. That why i comment your so close to getting in a decent shape I would even start tanning when you start that shit so in 5-8 weeks bam new man.
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you have a lot of potential to change your body quicky as your bf is over 15% once you get to 12-11 you will look so much better. That why i comment your so close to getting in a decent shape I would even start tanning when you start that shit so in 5-8 weeks bam new man.
yea man ive been noticing im starting to look somewhat leaner as of late since ive cut back on my eating, and started eating more "normal".
maybe the test e has something to do with it, but im not looking too bad!
this tren should do wonders! and funny you said that..i actually have some tanning visits left on a membership at my local tanning salon ;D