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Title: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Prime on March 20, 2012, 07:35:11 AM
Just curious to what people have suffered from.

Im not just reffering to cardiac arrest and death but more minor things like bad acne etc.

Just curious as I have seen friends suffer an array of problems.

SOme have horrific bacne, one started getting blood in his urine and went a bit yellow when he was doing 150mg dbol a day, another had sleep apnea (however you spell it) due to his size.

Another has a stent in his heart after a heart attack and the most extreme one has had to have his heart re-plummed as one side is dead after a series of heart attacks.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 20, 2012, 07:59:54 AM
Well anyone that has had serious cardiac problems like infarctions and clogged arteries I can guarantee it's not just from steroids.  That shit is from other stuff or hereditary.  It takes a long time for heart problems to show up after serious steroid abuse.  You're talking decades. 

I've had zero heath problems.  But I allow my body to completely clean out and most of the time I clean out cold turkey.  No ancillaries etc.  Has worked great for me for years..  I don't go overboard with the doses either.  Responsible, safe, effective.  No acne, no hair loss, no gyno, cholesterol is always in check.  I've managed to put on and keep 50+ lbs of muscle over the last 10 years.  I've probably hit my potential at the doses I've used i.e. 500mg of test, 500-600 of an anabolic and some dbol and var throw in.  But I'm as big as I want or need to be.  I'd much rather focus on getting into great shape conditioning wise now.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Prime on March 20, 2012, 08:04:35 AM
Yeah they guys who have had the heart problems are in their 40's and 50's and have been using 20-30 years at some very big doses.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Sector on March 20, 2012, 09:15:34 AM
Cycstic acne has started to plague me, having to attack it with Accutane which im sure will bring its own serious sides ( low dosing for 5-6 months ).

High Blood Pressure on ANY cycle thats worth a damn, still attempting to control it with herbs and vitamins but soon I will have to use a BP med which will bring its own sides.

Im sure my heart is taking a beating, anytime I bulk I hold 10-15lbs of water and the last few weeks of a bulk are rough on my breathing with all that weight on and I start to get mild chest pains.

Problem is alot of the sides that you get from AAS can be dealt with by adding in scripted meds, but those have sides too. Tricky game, I can definatly see how big BBs get addicated to benzos and such.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Swlabr on March 20, 2012, 09:27:29 AM
I got baaaaad acne on my back and delts. Both have gone away almost completely now. Also got some stretchmarks, but that's just aesthetic. Nothing else, really.

Most I've ran is 1.5 grams/week.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Overload on March 20, 2012, 12:28:52 PM
I haven't had anything too serious and I've ran over 5g's of AAS for extended periods of time.

-Acne, i get it bad from Deca but nothing else. Accutane is Poison, throw it in the trash. Look up all the info on it and please be careful with it.

-BP, my BP is usually around 130/40, but on cycle it has gone as high as 180/70 for a while.

-Cholesterol, gets out of whack during cycles but quickly gets back within normal range within a month of being clean.

-MPB, it runs in my family and over the last 7 years or so i have lost a good amount of hair, just receding. Most people don't notice it, but i can really notice it in pictures, but i do have a full head of hair. My brother is nearly bald in his late 30's and he has never used AAS.

-Body hair, this is the biggest change i have seen. I am literally covered in thick hair from my head to my feet. My back hair is so bad if i don't shave it, you can see it through my shirts. I never had back hair until i used very high dosages of AAS. My chest and back hair make tbombz look clean cut. I literally have a freaking rug on my chest and back.

-Infections, I've had a few of them and i was lucky enough that they cleared on their own or with some Keflex(sp?). Most of my infections were from water based winny. Only had one infection from oil based gear and it cleared on its own.

That's really all i can think of. Once i get off cycle, all of my health values return to normal rather quickly.


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Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: SmoofCat on March 20, 2012, 02:56:12 PM
High BP most dangerous ,

Not dangerous but very annoying:

Body hair
Shoulder acne


Never have gotten bad acne on face thank god and no hair loss , simply not in my genetic code to lose hair . And I run 4 gram cycles often .

But yeah , absurdly high BP from 1400 mg tren ace weekly w a lot of other gear almost put me in hospital


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: makaveli25 on March 20, 2012, 03:07:15 PM
High blood pressure on tren and equipose very high 150-160/90-100 felt like a walking heart attack I avoid those compounds now

If you keep bloat down and stick to a more anabolic cycle you shouldn't have to many issues unless predisposed. Had my pressure checked at the docs yeaster 126-70 very very happy with that.

Cystic acne like a mug on my first cycle was running sustanon and dbol. I wasn't being very consistent with my dosing plus my body was brand new to it. My body is use to it now. I break out a bit with masteron and If I'm mixes a bunch of different things or not being consisten enough with my injections. Usually i megadose panthoic acid for a few days and get good soap with benzoyl peroxide that clears it up.

Problems with erections on certain cycles. I've learned how to fix it for the most part

Sometimes my urine gets very dark and bubbly if I'm orals or higher doses. Need to drink more water when this happens. Means a bit of protein is seeping into your bladder.

A couple of painfull injects that's really about it. I feel lucky. The cycle I'm on right now I feel so healthy and good. light dose of test high primo a bit of masteron and dbol. No problems at all. Sometimes cardio is a bit tough your cardiovascular system can feel slightly taxed sometimes.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: nosleep on March 20, 2012, 03:11:08 PM
SIDE EFFECTS:

MORE HUNGER
MORE THIRST
FAR MORE AGGRESSIVE SEXUALLY
SOME ACNE(FOUND A REMEDY)
SOME HAIR LOSS(FOUND A REMEDY)
EMPTIER WALLET
GROWTH IN HEIGHT
KILLER CHARLIE HORSES FROM ANAVAR

EQ SO FAR IS GIVING ME A LITTLE TROUBLE, AT LEAST I THOUGHT IT WAS BUT I THINK ITS THE EPHEDRINE. EPHEDRA NO PROBLEM, EPHEDRA + EQ NO PROBLEM, EPHEDRA + EQ + LITTLE EPHEDRINE(EVEN THESE 8MG TABS) PROBLEM. IS THERE REALLY A BIG DIFF BETWEEN EPHEDRA AND EPHEDRINE?


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: makaveli25 on March 20, 2012, 03:12:28 PM
Forgot to mention crippling anxiety from equipose and tren. For some reason extreme halo gave it to me to.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Arnold jr on March 20, 2012, 11:09:51 PM
Acne - never except with Clomid

Hair-Loss - hair thinned out a little, DHT steroids seemed to be the worst

Cholesterol - Never any high LDL levels, but low HDL levels, easily fixed with diet

High Blood Pressure - Never, with one exception...if my Nandrolone dose got too high this seemed to cause a problem...nothing else caused this

Liver Enzyme Values - always increased with oral steroid use, but never anything alarming. However, pro-hormones sent my liver enzyme values into the high 80's...not steroid use ever broke past the mid-20's.

Gyno - slight flair ups a few times, easily combated with Letrozole

Water Retention - sure, all the time, but controllable with diet...took years to learn this, but when you're young you're dumb...at least I was.

Prostate Enlargement - none

Heart Conditions - none

Kidney Issues - none

Anxiety - none

Insomnia - only with human grade Anadrol

Rapid Heart Rate - None

Night Sweats - sometimes with high doses of Tren but not always

Depression - none

Testosterone Issues - yes, I'll require TRT for the rest of my life....I guess you could call this a big one and the most serious one

Rage or Anger - never....the same on as off...no difference regardless of the compounds

Infections - one bad one due to an allergic reaction...I'm allergic to grape seed oil....a few small sterile abscesses due to more than likely contaminated gear...painful but not a big deal in the end.


Total years of gear usage - 10+
Most gear ever used - around 3g-4g/wk
Longest period "On" - 3+ years (some of that was just low to moderate test)
Longest period on full blown - 9 months

Biggest Cycles:

Example 1:
Testosterone-Enanthate - 250mg/ed
Testosterone-Propionate - 100mg/eod
Trenbolone-Acetate - 100mg/ed
Dianabol - 100mg/ed
Nandrolone - 200mg/wk

Example 2:

Testosterone-Enanthate - 250mg/eod
Testosterone-Propionate - 200mg/eod
Equipoise - 300mg/eod
Trenbolone-Acetate - 100mg/eod to ED
Winstrol - 50 to 100mg/ed
Masteron (sometimes) 300 to 500mg/wk

Example 3:

Sustanon - 1,000mg/wk
Deca-Durabolin - 600mg/wk
Dianabol - 100mg/ed
Equipoise - 900mg/wk

Not all cycles were like this, but these are a few that come to mind. While I used 100mg of Dbol per day, I have to say the difference in 100mg and 50mg never appeared to be that much different. Sure, 100mg provided more, but it wasn't a huge difference over 50mg. Nandrolone, anything over 500mg/wk always gave me problems. EQ, decent steroid, but never as impressive or as efficient as many others IMO. Testosterone....doses over 1,000mg made me feel a little weird sometimes....I can't really explain it. Other steroids used not in the above three examples....pretty much everything you can think of with the exception of things like Laurabolin, Android, or Omnadren. Also, never used Masteron-Enanthate (only Propionate). I'm sure there's others I'm forgetting.

Non-steroidal items used:

HGH
HCG - with strong regret
Clomid & Nolvadex
Arimidex & Letrozole
IGF-1
Clenbuterol
Cytomel

Favorite Steroids:

Testoviron Depot - hands down the best testosterone on the planet IMO
Trenbolone-Acetate - no need for any other Tren IMO
Dianabol - BD is tough to beat

Rec Drugs - never once during all my years of cycling...nothing. Smoked pot twice in my life and that was around 18yrs old....wasn't for me. Never touched anything else, I won't even touch pain meds if they're prescribed to me...I've had two surgeries, ankle and knee, took pain meds once after one of the surgeries and hated the way they made me feel. Slight torn pec once, took nothing. Twisted vertabra, no pain med, took extra Nandrolone and HGH and it healed 6months ahead of schedule.

Currently - no cycling, will never cycle again unless it magically becomes legal or I move to a country where it already is. TRT therapy, that's it, and maybe a more in-depth HRT plan in the future....time will tell. Health is good, a few aches and pains here and there. In decent shape, still fairly strong but a far cry from the old days in both regards. Happy and content.

Obviously this is more than you asked for and more than most will read, but it's late and I'm bored and unable to sleep at the moment...so there you go.




Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Max B on March 20, 2012, 11:26:02 PM
^^ great post bro.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: diamondcut on March 21, 2012, 12:07:40 AM
Acne - never except with Clomid

Hair-Loss - hair thinned out a little, DHT steroids seemed to be the worst

Cholesterol - Never any high LDL levels, but low HDL levels, easily fixed with diet

High Blood Pressure - Never, with one exception...if my Nandrolone dose got too high this seemed to cause a problem...nothing else caused this

Liver Enzyme Values - always increased with oral steroid use, but never anything alarming. However, pro-hormones sent my liver enzyme values into the high 80's...not steroid use ever broke past the mid-20's.

Gyno - slight flair ups a few times, easily combated with Letrozole

Water Retention - sure, all the time, but controllable with diet...took years to learn this, but when you're young you're dumb...at least I was.

Prostate Enlargement - none

Heart Conditions - none

Kidney Issues - none

Anxiety - none

Insomnia - only with human grade Anadrol

Rapid Heart Rate - None

Night Sweats - sometimes with high doses of Tren but not always

Depression - none

Testosterone Issues - yes, I'll require TRT for the rest of my life....I guess you could call this a big one and the most serious one

Rage or Anger - never....the same on as off...no difference regardless of the compounds

Infections - one bad one due to an allergic reaction...I'm allergic to grape seed oil....a few small sterile abscesses due to more than likely contaminated gear...painful but not a big deal in the end.


Total years of gear usage - 10+
Most gear ever used - around 3g-4g/wk
Longest period "On" - 3+ years (some of that was just low to moderate test)
Longest period on full blown - 9 months

Biggest Cycles:

Example 1:
Testosterone-Enanthate - 250mg/ed
Testosterone-Propionate - 100mg/eod
Trenbolone-Acetate - 100mg/ed
Dianabol - 100mg/ed
Nandrolone - 200mg/wk

Example 2:

Testosterone-Enanthate - 250mg/eod
Testosterone-Propionate - 200mg/eod
Equipoise - 300mg/eod
Trenbolone-Acetate - 100mg/eod to ED
Winstrol - 50 to 100mg/ed
Masteron (sometimes) 300 to 500mg/wk

Example 3:

Sustanon - 1,000mg/wk
Deca-Durabolin - 600mg/wk
Dianabol - 100mg/ed
Equipoise - 900mg/wk

Not all cycles were like this, but these are a few that come to mind. While I used 100mg of Dbol per day, I have to say the difference in 100mg and 50mg never appeared to be that much different. Sure, 100mg provided more, but it wasn't a huge difference over 50mg. Nandrolone, anything over 500mg/wk always gave me problems. EQ, decent steroid, but never as impressive or as efficient as many others IMO. Testosterone....doses over 1,000mg made me feel a little weird sometimes....I can't really explain it. Other steroids used not in the above three examples....pretty much everything you can think of with the exception of things like Laurabolin, Android, or Omnadren. Also, never used Masteron-Enanthate (only Propionate). I'm sure there's others I'm forgetting.

Non-steroidal items used:

HGH
HCG - with strong regret
Clomid & Nolvadex
Arimidex & Letrozole
IGF-1
Clenbuterol
Cytomel

Favorite Steroids:

Testoviron Depot - hands down the best testosterone on the planet IMO
Trenbolone-Acetate - no need for any other Tren IMO
Dianabol - BD is tough to beat

Rec Drugs - never once during all my years of cycling...nothing. Smoked pot twice in my life and that was around 18yrs old....wasn't for me. Never touched anything else, I won't even touch pain meds if they're prescribed to me...I've had two surgeries, ankle and knee, took pain meds once after one of the surgeries and hated the way they made me feel. Slight torn pec once, took nothing. Twisted vertabra, no pain med, took extra Nandrolone and HGH and it healed 6months ahead of schedule.

Currently - no cycling, will never cycle again unless it magically becomes legal or I move to a country where it already is. TRT therapy, that's it, and maybe a more in-depth HRT plan in the future....time will tell. Health is good, a few aches and pains here and there. In decent shape, still fairly strong but a far cry from the old days in both regards. Happy and content.

Obviously this is more than you asked for and more than most will read, but it's late and I'm bored and unable to sleep at the moment...so there you go.




very interesting and informative post, thanks for sharing

why aren't you on now? have you decided to hang up the towel?


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 24, 2012, 05:45:42 PM
By far the best drug I've EVER used is legit 100% Bayer primo.  Shit is unreal.  Zero sides, slow and steady gains and and in the 600-800mg range is fucking sweet!  Anyone that says it's a week drug does not use it correctly i.e. long enough or at high enough doses or worse got fake bunk ass shit.  I used fake amps a while back and just recently got access to some good ones and wow glad I can use the real shit again.  Amazing!


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Rearden Metal on March 24, 2012, 06:39:16 PM
I've had bouts with blood pressure but nothing toooo high. Just my normal is like 125/75 all the time and then on tren and EQ and anadrol it'll be 145/90 or 155/80 but nothing off the charts high.

GH makes my sleep apnea worse, and it's bad to begin with. I just did a sleep study and they told me I have "morbid sleep apnea", like I could die in my fucking sleep. I stop breathing for a minute at a time sometimes. I've even vomited due to sleep apnea, wake up coughing it out. Yes, I'm currently being treated and waiting for my cpap machine to be ready.

Possible low immunities, I get VERY long sinus infections, talking months long, that need aggressive antibiotics to combat.

Nothing pertaining to organs to speak of.



Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 07:04:44 PM
Had a huge cystlike zit on my sternum running some anadrol,deca,and sust.........I believe it was from the drol as it was the first time I used it...........went away finally leaving just a tiny scar.

Years ago I was insane when adding Halotestin to my stack for a few weeks before a show.......very rude to people,short tempered.......almost like I had Tourettes Syndrome,I could not control whatever came out of my mouth,and I`m normally a pretty nice guy.

Some anxiety from Tren but I take anti-anxiety meds anyway........always had anxiety issues.

Was doing a few shows in a row,ran out of money and gear except for Tren......did a Tren only cycle and when I came off,I had erection problems............I could get it up,but it wasn`t as hard as it normally would be..............cleared up in time and I had been on gear for two years straight at the time.

Other than those few minor things,I`m as healthy as a horse.



Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: dfresh on March 24, 2012, 07:09:26 PM
some good informative answers  in here

does everyone get their blood work done...if so how often?


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: dfresh on March 24, 2012, 07:13:21 PM
Had a huge cystlike zit on my sternum running some anadrol,deca,and sust.........I believe it was from the drol as it was the first time I used it...........went away finally leaving just a tiny scar.

Years ago I was insane when adding Halotestin to my stack for a few weeks before a show.......very rude to people,short tempered.......almost like I had Tourettes Syndrome,I could not control whatever came out of my mouth,and I`m normally a pretty nice guy.

Some anxiety from Tren but I take anti-anxiety meds anyway........always had anxiety issues.

Was doing a few shows in a row,ran out of money and gear except for Tren......did a Tren only cycle and when I came off,I had erection problems............I could get it up,but it wasn`t as hard as it normally would be..............cleared up in time and I had been on gear for two years straight at the time.

Other than those few minor things,I`m as healthy as a horse.



didnt you say you've NEVER had any blood work done?  ::)


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 24, 2012, 07:18:07 PM
I think most of us won't know until later in life


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: US MUSL on March 24, 2012, 07:38:51 PM
For some reason extreme halo gave it to me to.

Same here, and I was only taking one capsule a day.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: wes on March 24, 2012, 08:32:55 PM
didnt you say you've NEVER had any blood work done?  ::)
Nope,never had any done......I know it`s stupid ,but I never have.

I have had physicals and they`ve taken blood  at various times though,but not specifically looking for anything gear related.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: dfresh on March 24, 2012, 08:35:43 PM
Nope,never had any done......I know it`s stupid ,but I never have.

I have had physicals and they`ve taken blood  at various times though,but not specifically looking for anything gear related.

Well as long as you're in fact healthy that's all that matters right


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Overload on March 25, 2012, 09:19:23 AM
I get blood work done every 3-6 months.

Doesn't matter if i'm on or off cycle i get it done.


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Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: minto on March 25, 2012, 10:16:12 AM

Non-steroidal items used:

HCG - with strong regret


Why do you regret using HCG?


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: flinstones1 on April 16, 2012, 11:10:58 AM
some side effects good and bad

gyno
hairloss
bacne
shrunken balls
penis enlargement  :)
premature aging...I look 25
more masculine facial structure over the past few months strangely enough, think it jsut happens when you jack up the doses while your still in your teens.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 16, 2012, 11:32:40 AM
some side effects good and bad

gyno
hairloss
bacne
shrunken balls
penis enlargement  :)
premature aging...I look 25
more masculine facial structure over the past few months strangely enough, think it jsut happens when you jack up the doses while your still in your teens.

You're 19 and experiencing hair loss.  Fuck man.  At least you'll be a jacked 25 year old who looks 50 with a bald head.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: flinstones1 on April 16, 2012, 01:11:31 PM
You're 19 and experiencing hair loss.  Fuck man.  At least you'll be a jacked 25 year old who looks 50 with a bald head.

lol it's not horrible I'll have my hair for a little while longer I imagine but it will be gone at some point. It's not the end of the world though.... Gear has made me better looking, women who wouldn't of given me a second look 6 months ago actually go out of their way to talk to me I can talk to just about any woman I want no problemo, not saying I fuck em all but I'm not intimidated by a 10/10 like I used to be. IT's amazing what the ever so slightest change in your jaw/facial structure can do, I'm talking half an inch here. Have you noticed makaveli25's face? Notice the insane amount of women he picks up despite being bald,it has nothing to do with his personality or his physique or money or anything else its all in his his face.....his jawline is highly masculine and he has good genetics and high natural test levels. His genetics are "better" than mine, yet my jawline is bigger than his thanks to pharmacetucais. So if a woman looks at the two of us she'll see two healthy males with good genes, when in reality one of us is living a lie. So is life a lie? Ask yourself... Have I cheated genetics? Is my life a lie? women are naturally attracted to men with masculine facial features as it signals high testosterone levels and the ability to produce a healthy offspring. Thing is I DONT have high natural test levels, my face would probably be quite feminine had I not taken gear and my kids will not have high test levels, despite a woman looking at me she will think I am a "healthy" male when I'm really not.

on the flip side" Women are attracted to naturally musacular men as it signals good genes, when those of us with poor natural msucle building genetics and a good response to drugs pick up women when we are on a hefty dose of pharmaceuticals.... are we in a way cheating genetics and living a lie? Big muscles are linked with fertility and healthier offspring, so if your 260 pounds and 5% and sterile with the sperm count of a 10 year old, are you cheating the laws of nature? food for thought...better living through chemistry.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: flinstones1 on April 16, 2012, 01:16:20 PM
kind of like a woman getting her ass done or a boob job or lip enhancements to appear more feminine,  she is cheating the laws of nature. Just like I'm about to lie some more, 50mg farmak prop and 250mg phizer cyp in my right ass cheek. hope that answers your question OP, life without gear is no way to live. Ask yourself Do you think arnold would of been the massive bodybuilder with the chiseled jawline and most masculine face hollywood has ever seen if it had not been for the copious amounts of dbol he took in his teens?


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Arnold jr on April 16, 2012, 07:17:43 PM
Why do you regret using HCG?

Because it's what damaged my HPTA.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Glass Gorilla on April 16, 2012, 07:31:43 PM
Because it's what damaged my HPTA.

You probably told me this in the other thread Arnold Jr, but how much were you on?


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: aesthetics on April 16, 2012, 07:50:21 PM
Because it's what damaged my HPTA.

they give hypogonadal men, somewhere around 30k iu over the course of a week or two without desensitizing the testes. you have to use a lot of that shit to get permanently suppressed.

being suppressed just happens naturally when men age, and using steroids doesn't help much. my test output was always low, genetically.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Arnold jr on April 16, 2012, 08:23:47 PM
The problem wasn't necessarily how much I used but how long I used it.

aesthetics, in your example, you refer to a one to two week period of use, granted, that's a massive dose but it's still short lived.

My point, the dependency factor largely revolves around time, not necessarily dosing. I used HCG regularly for a good five or six years. I didn't always use it but I used it while on cycle a pretty good bit, and I was on cycle most of the time and I also always used it if I came off.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: GettingBig on April 17, 2012, 04:56:26 AM
I always enjoy reading Arnold jr,Wes, and Rearden Metal replays.

Just wanted to thank you guys sharing you expericane and knowledge.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: irishdave on April 17, 2012, 07:25:20 AM
so are you gaylords saying I shouldn't ever use HCG? I haven't used HCG in a long time but was gonna throw it into this cycle


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Swlabr on April 17, 2012, 07:50:48 AM
Holy fuck hahahah

you shot a whole fucking bottle of EQ? :o :o :o


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: tstmaniac on April 17, 2012, 08:26:55 PM
Because it's what damaged my HPTA.

I believe we spoke about this through pm's in the past but what was your hcg protocol?


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Arnold jr on April 17, 2012, 10:58:04 PM
I believe we spoke about this through pm's in the past but what was your hcg protocol?

On-cycle, usually around 350iu/e5d or so. If I came off, 1,000iu/ed for 10 straight days. Sometimes if I was on for a long time but not using HCG I'd go through 5,000-10,000iu in a few days and then continue on with the 350iu plan.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on April 18, 2012, 04:22:23 AM
haha this is good.

at the beginning, MASSIVE  water retention and i was proud, thought its all rock hard mass ;D

the face turned into a melon, my postworkout meal was 2 menues at the mcdonalds,haha.

i seen a pic of flexwheeler drinking grapejuice and id drink about a gallon every day, based on that picture ;D

oh goodness, my dosages were good,too.when i asked my supplier of hormones how to take ganabol/equipoise, he said you take 1 10ml bottle into right buttcheck, another into the left one.i did that :D

further insanitys, lasix before going out on a date.

anapoon and halotestin used as pre workout booster ;D

dieting on efedrin, clen, t3, gh, sometimes the heartrate was similiar to a machinegun firing.
from the t3, my neck/thyroid hurted so badly i thought something will explode.

all of this non stop of course, and when i came off, it took about half a year until i could get a proper errection for more than a minute.

my hair always stayed the same i guess im lucky on that.

back then i never evn bothered to have bloodwork done until that one time, and the liver enzymes were absolutely ridiculous, about 3 times higher than the normal maximum.

kideys stayed fine, i havent became a diabetic, but got some gout issues for a while.

however, i was indeed massive then and very strong, i did tricps skullcrushers with 220lbs for 10 etc.

but the most massive, spectacular bodypart was my.....BITCHTITS. ;D

there was no letrozol, no nolvadex no proviron to save me anymore, the doc cut out a massive 150gramms of tissue, i still keep it at home, asa reminder.

and yes, i tok all the anti estrogens to prevent it, they helped fuck all.

these days i use much lower dosages, go off regularly and all the bloodwork is fine as long my diet is very clean and the dosage isnt too high for extended periods of time.



I fucking lost it right there


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on April 18, 2012, 08:09:26 AM
you should read the rest :D

whats worse, this wasnt even my own idea, it was group mentality, the whole lot of friend did it.

there is more incredibly stupid stuff that was done, but i better not even post that :o

but there was atleast one thing positive, everyone was training like an animal, it was fun times, but never again.

I did. quality fucking post. At least you have friends to juice with. I am flying solo when it comes to the juice game, which is why i post on steroid forums


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: MaTrlx on April 20, 2012, 02:26:20 PM

back then i never evn bothered to have bloodwork done until that one time, and the liver enzymes were absolutely ridiculous, about 3 times higher than the normal maximum.


Galeniko, how did you manage to get your liver enzymes down to normal levels?

Are high doses of AAS the culprit behind elevated liver enzymes? I was also wondering if ephedrine played any culprit in that too. I was running tren, EQ, GH and 75mgs of ephredrine when my bloodwork showed elevated enzyme levels.

I have recently decided to drop tren and ephedrine and just run 500mg test, 900mg EQ and 5iu GH with 50mcg T3, in hope to lower my levels. Will this help?

Do name further recommendations if you have any.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on April 21, 2012, 05:41:54 AM
haha, it was mad times man, we'd inject eachother in the sunbed cabins, the cleaning personell once tried to get us out of there they said "please dont do this, youre throwing away your lives".ha,they meant were injecting recreational drugs, bc they found syringues in the waste before.

 ;D

almost every single one of us developed bitchtits and was PROUD about it ;D
some, including me, have been back in the gym the day after gyno operation, with the plastic canals still atached to the nipples. :o 8)

the best times by far were the bulking days, everybody developed heads like melons, the girls would point at us and shout "waterheads", and these same girls would later on swallow the semen and choke on our sausages after we came back months later mean and lean 8)

1 time,2guys injected eachother in the lockerromm into their backs because everywhere else was not possible anymore, and one guy took out the syringue but the needle was left stuck in the other guys back, he walked shirtless around in the gym, slightly bleeding from the injection spot, when a guy approached him and said"hey theres something on your back".everybody realized then it was the needle, the whole gym laughed to tears.

great times, walking in tshirts during winter was no problems, the steroids and whatnot warmed the body up enough to make it possible.

and the clenbuterol times,whenit was new, everybody measuring body temp, if it wasnt raised enough>>>more pills ;D

ha, i must always chuckle when i see people on this forum being worried when they get bit puffy nipples, its so hillarious bc we back then couldnt wait to get them so we can remove them.

nolvadex was never on anones shopping list, simply bc its known it makes the steroids taken weaker.

ah, the times 8)

fucking lol. I'm speechless


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: undead on April 21, 2012, 08:22:04 AM
haha, it was mad times man, we'd inject eachother in the sunbed cabins, the cleaning personell once tried to get us out of there they said "please dont do this, youre throwing away your lives".ha,they meant were injecting recreational drugs, bc they found syringues in the waste before.

 ;D

almost every single one of us developed bitchtits and was PROUD about it ;D
some, including me, have been back in the gym the day after gyno operation, with the plastic canals still atached to the nipples. :o 8)

the best times by far were the bulking days, everybody developed heads like melons, the girls would point at us and shout "waterheads", and these same girls would later on swallow the semen and choke on our sausages after we came back months later mean and lean 8)

1 time,2guys injected eachother in the lockerromm into their backs because everywhere else was not possible anymore, and one guy took out the syringue but the needle was left stuck in the other guys back, he walked shirtless around in the gym, slightly bleeding from the injection spot, when a guy approached him and said"hey theres something on your back".everybody realized then it was the needle, the whole gym laughed to tears.

great times, walking in tshirts during winter was no problems, the steroids and whatnot warmed the body up enough to make it possible.

and the clenbuterol times,whenit was new, everybody measuring body temp, if it wasnt raised enough>>>more pills ;D

ha, i must always chuckle when i see people on this forum being worried when they get bit puffy nipples, its so hillarious bc we back then couldnt wait to get them so we can remove them.

nolvadex was never on anones shopping list, simply bc its known it makes the steroids taken weaker.

ah, the times 8)



lmao. these are come great stories. keep them coming.


just out of curiosity galeniko, how old are you?


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: jon cole on April 22, 2012, 03:11:41 AM
1-got liver trouble with pink dbol,never again pink/yellow dbol

2-run cycle with deca/test e, and test e was in fact tren e...

so i got insane night sweating and insomnia for 5 week, lost some hair, and got trouble to got a decent boner for 2 month.
but my strenght was insane, lost bdft a lot, my facial structure changed lol

3-friend of mine put winny and deca in the same syringue (water +oil wtf)= worst abcess i've ever seen.

4-i live in France, back in time steroid were sold in the gym, the dealer arrived in the gym with 100 liter trash bag full of gear, testoviron depot, primo schering, para negma, all in genuine box, and 5 buck for an amp.
legit primo was only for bridging between cycle.

5-pantestone was a hit and widely available, guy were popping them like candy at the gym.

6-a friend of mine collapse after taking a huge spoon of ventipulmin, ,something like 20 gram, guy took over 400 mcg of clen, it was his first time with clen.
we slapped him and he awake.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: jon cole on April 22, 2012, 03:36:57 AM
lol it's not horrible I'll have my hair for a little while longer I imagine but it will be gone at some point. It's not the end of the world though.... Gear has made me better looking, women who wouldn't of given me a second look 6 months ago actually go out of their way to talk to me I can talk to just about any woman I want no problemo, not saying I fuck em all but I'm not intimidated by a 10/10 like I used to be. IT's amazing what the ever so slightest change in your jaw/facial structure can do, I'm talking half an inch here. Have you noticed makaveli25's face? Notice the insane amount of women he picks up despite being bald,it has nothing to do with his personality or his physique or money or anything else its all in his his face.....his jawline is highly masculine and he has good genetics and high natural test levels. His genetics are "better" than mine, yet my jawline is bigger than his thanks to pharmacetucais. So if a woman looks at the two of us she'll see two healthy males with good genes, when in reality one of us is living a lie. So is life a lie? Ask yourself... Have I cheated genetics? Is my life a lie? women are naturally attracted to men with masculine facial features as it signals high testosterone levels and the ability to produce a healthy offspring. Thing is I DONT have high natural test levels, my face would probably be quite feminine had I not taken gear and my kids will not have high test levels, despite a woman looking at me she will think I am a "healthy" male when I'm really not.

on the flip side" Women are attracted to naturally musacular men as it signals good genes, when those of us with poor natural msucle building genetics and a good response to drugs pick up women when we are on a hefty dose of pharmaceuticals.... are we in a way cheating genetics and living a lie? Big muscles are linked with fertility and healthier offspring, so if your 260 pounds and 5% and sterile with the sperm count of a 10 year old, are you cheating the laws of nature? food for thought...better living through chemistry.

women are more attracted by me when i'm on.
bigger neck, bigger jaw.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: flinstones1 on April 24, 2012, 11:40:24 AM
women are more attracted by me when i'm on.
bigger neck, bigger jaw.

hear this- I just got out of the DMV and had to show the woman at the front desk proof of residence, I had a local resident ID taken around 4-5 months ago and she said that it was not me in the picture and would not allow me to use it. Flat out the picture looks like a different guy, I'll show makaveli when I see him next the picture of me so he can see what I'm talking about if yall think I'm crazy. I'm really thinking my deca was overdosed and I was on like 2 grams of nandrolone for months on end. Everything, forehead jaw and cheeks grew as well as my nose :'( ::). My bf is the same too, same skin tone and hairstyle. Goes to show you anabolic steroids are anabolic in bone as well as muscle tissue and I'm living proof. think my wrists got bigger too looking at them


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: flinstones1 on April 24, 2012, 11:45:04 AM
I was on roughly a gram of nandrolone

Effects of the anabolic steroid nandrolone phenylpropionate on craniofacial growth in rats.
Noda K, Chang HP, Takahashi I, Kinoshita Z, Kawamoto T.
Source
Department of Orthodontics, Osaka Dental University, Japan.
Abstract
Primary testosterone and its derivatives are anabolic steroids used in the treatment of osteoporosis and Turner syndrome. They also enhance fast-twitch muscle weight in female rats. The present study examines the effect of an anabolic steroid on craniofacial growth and development in rats. Five-week-old female Sprague-Dawley rats (125) were divided into experimental and control groups. The experimental group was injected subcutaneously with 1 mg nandrolone phenylpropionate in the interscapular region on alternate days, whereas those in the control group were injected with a vehicle, arachis oil. Rats were sacrificed at 60 and 120 days of age. Cephalometric analysis of soft X-ray cephalograms showed that chronic administration of the anabolic steroid, nandrolone phenylpropionate, resulted in: (1) about a 20% increase in body weight, (2) an increase in total skull length, (3) elongation of the maxillary and mandibular incisors, (4) an increase in the depth of the antegonial notch, and (5) downward-forward growth of the viscerocranium against the neurocranium. These results suggest that nandrolone phenylpropionate may accelerate craniofacial growth and/or induce high functional activity of the masticatory muscles in female rats.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Max B on April 24, 2012, 12:45:53 PM
trenbolona acetato=americano whore magnet.  FACT


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: jon cole on April 26, 2012, 09:46:43 AM
hear this- I just got out of the DMV and had to show the woman at the front desk proof of residence, I had a local resident ID taken around 4-5 months ago and she said that it was not me in the picture and would not allow me to use it. Flat out the picture looks like a different guy, I'll show makaveli when I see him next the picture of me so he can see what I'm talking about if yall think I'm crazy. I'm really thinking my deca was overdosed and I was on like 2 grams of nandrolone for months on end. Everything, forehead jaw and cheeks grew as well as my nose :'( ::). My bf is the same too, same skin tone and hairstyle. Goes to show you anabolic steroids are anabolic in bone as well as muscle tissue and I'm living proof. think my wrists got bigger too looking at them

a cycle of tren e and deca changed my facial structure a little bit,, something more aggressive on my look.


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: jon cole on April 26, 2012, 09:49:35 AM
I was on roughly a gram of nandrolone

Effects of the anabolic steroid nandrolone phenylpropionate on craniofacial growth in rats.
Noda K, Chang HP, Takahashi I, Kinoshita Z, Kawamoto T.
Source
Department of Orthodontics, Osaka Dental University, Japan.
Abstract
Primary testosterone and its derivatives are anabolic steroids used in the treatment of osteoporosis and Turner syndrome. They also enhance fast-twitch muscle weight in female rats. The present study examines the effect of an anabolic steroid on craniofacial growth and development in rats. Five-week-old female Sprague-Dawley rats (125) were divided into experimental and control groups. The experimental group was injected subcutaneously with 1 mg nandrolone phenylpropionate in the interscapular region on alternate days, whereas those in the control group were injected with a vehicle, arachis oil. Rats were sacrificed at 60 and 120 days of age. Cephalometric analysis of soft X-ray cephalograms showed that chronic administration of the anabolic steroid, nandrolone phenylpropionate, resulted in: (1) about a 20% increase in body weight, (2) an increase in total skull length, (3) elongation of the maxillary and mandibular incisors, (4) an increase in the depth of the antegonial notch, and (5) downward-forward growth of the viscerocranium against the neurocranium. These results suggest that nandrolone phenylpropionate may accelerate craniofacial growth and/or induce high functional activity of the masticatory muscles in female rats.[/glow]


cool


Title: Re: What health problems have you had from gear?
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on April 27, 2012, 04:18:43 AM
my only medical condition is "fatigued groin"..