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Title: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Benny B on May 02, 2012, 09:19:56 AM
Stephanie Cutter, Deputy Campaign Manager, shares the facts about Big Oil's latest attack.


Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Twaddle on May 02, 2012, 09:23:04 AM
Hey Benny, here's an idea.  Why don't you take all this shit you've been posting over to the political board (where it belongs), ram it up your ass, and twirl around on it.   :D
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: reppingfor20 on May 02, 2012, 07:54:01 PM
Great post!  Romney has nothing in common with 99% or more of the people in the US other than that he is a human.  Other than that, the guy wasn't brought up like you were, didn't work like you did, didn't pay taxes like you did, they guy is a complete joke, and has no charisma to boot.  Total hack!

Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: The Showstoppa on May 02, 2012, 07:58:34 PM
Great post!  Romney has nothing in common with 99% or more of the people in the US other than that he is a human.  Other than that, the guy wasn't brought up like you were, didn't work like you did, didn't pay taxes like you did, they guy is a complete joke, and has no charisma to boot.  Total hack!



You just described 90% of all politcians in Washington, including your favorire turd Odrama.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: reppingfor20 on May 02, 2012, 07:58:42 PM
here is your true potus, BOSS!

Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: flipper5470 on May 02, 2012, 08:00:06 PM
Stephanie Cutter looks like the kind of bitch that will blow yoou and swallow until you marry her.  Then it's good luck...hope you like a once a month hand job
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: reppingfor20 on May 02, 2012, 08:01:48 PM
You just described 90% of all politcians in Washington, including your favorire turd Odrama.

Obama and Michelle just finished paying off their student loans 10 years or so ago, they are not Romney, you are WRONG.  Romney is disgustingly rich, it should be outlawed and he should be made to forfeit the money he stole be taking over companies and firing hard working American's, putting people out of work. 

How many care takers did Ann Romney have???!!!   ;D ;D ;D  Woman never worked or raised her kids a day in her life, I doubt she ever changed her own kids diapers, that is how out of touch of reality the Romney's are, you should be ashamed to even align yourself with the GOP and Romney greed train.

Shame Shame Shame!!!  Every rich person, Shame on you! 

Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: The Showstoppa on May 02, 2012, 08:04:53 PM
Obama and Michelle just finished paying off their student loans 10 years or so ago, they are not Romney, you are WRONG.  Romney is disgustingly rich, it should be outlawed and he should be made to forfeit the money he stole be taking over companies and firing hard working American's, putting people out of work. 

How many care takers did Ann Romney have???!!!   ;D ;D ;D  Woman never worked or raised her kids a day in her life, I doubt she ever changed her own kids diapers, that is how out of touch of reality the Romney's are, you should be ashamed to even align yourself with the GOP and Romney greed train.

Shame Shame Shame!!!  Every rich person, Shame on you! 



Your trolling is getting weaker.  Step up your game, son!
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: reppingfor20 on May 02, 2012, 08:08:04 PM
I'm speaking the truth, your so stupefied by the GOP nonsense they spew that you can't see through it.  You really think Romney is like you?  You really think Ann Romney raised her kids without 3 - 8 care takers?  Romney owns what, 15 homes?  HAHAHHAHAH get out of here you Republican elitist.  One thing is good to know though, your gone in the House come election time, GOP will be a non factor anymore, they are done for, the are like the stone age, this country will be democrat for the rest of it's glorious centuries.



Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Mattyh7688 on May 02, 2012, 08:34:47 PM
Obama and Michelle just finished paying off their student loans 10 years or so ago, they are not Romney, you are WRONG.  Romney is disgustingly rich, it should be outlawed and he should be made to forfeit the money he stole be taking over companies and firing hard working American's, putting people out of work. 

How many care takers did Ann Romney have???!!!   ;D ;D ;D  Woman never worked or raised her kids a day in her life, I doubt she ever changed her own kids diapers, that is how out of touch of reality the Romney's are, you should be ashamed to even align yourself with the GOP and Romney greed train.

Shame Shame Shame!!!  Every rich person, Shame on you! 


Romney is a fucking genius and if you knew anything about leveraged buyout firms you would realize it too. He earned his money.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: calfzilla on May 02, 2012, 08:38:38 PM
Benny we all know Republicans are all morons so you can quit spamming the g and o with cut and paste articles. Take it to the political board kid. Obama 2012!
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2012, 08:41:00 PM
Hey Benny, here's an idea.  Why don't you take all this shit you've been posting over to the political board (where it belongs), ram it up your ass, and twirl around on it.   :D

You would NEVER catch Benny on the poli board because like that little fag who's going to be banned by tomorrow (guaranteed) JTsunami, he'd get owned to oblivion.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2012, 08:43:58 PM
But in all fairness big oil did have a 50% increase in profits......












Bringing them to a whopping 4 cents on the dollar. Benny you're.such a fucking idiot. Haha
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2012, 08:54:11 PM
Romney is a fucking genius and if you knew anything about leveraged buyout firms you would realize it too. He earned his money.

You'll see posts like this from this asshole all day long. He posts from a proxy account with multiple gimmicks. His only purpose here is to troll.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Arnold jr on May 02, 2012, 10:49:39 PM
I'm not a big Romney fan, and I've never fully understood this argument against big oil, it's seems a little assbackward to me, but one thing is for certain, the anti-big oil ideology sure isn't working.

And holy crap, the comments baching Romney's wealth, I don't understand that at all. Romney represents the best of America when it comes to wealth and what is possible...sure, most won't achieve it, but it's there.

As for the Obama's, comparing them to every day people, give me a break. They're social elitist on the far left end of the spectrum...there's nothing normal about that.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: 240 is Back on May 03, 2012, 04:14:09 AM
obama letting big oil get away with anything they want.

romney will just let them get away with a little more.

neither is in it for the little guy.  obama wants to cut the oil subsidies 2 bil (out of the 20 bil they're earning) and broke repubs are screaming about the injustice of it.  Oh brother.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: chunkramwell on May 03, 2012, 04:26:50 AM
Hey politics has it's own board.

The only big oil you need to talk about here is big FISH oil.

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHImi7ZZaAw4Ck0kSsqxjxGmQ_OQEnTKO4ZsmckKSCLYH7zuYe)
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 03, 2012, 04:35:28 AM
Go Romney!
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2012, 06:53:41 AM
obama letting big oil get away with anything they want.

romney will just let them get away with a little more.

neither is in it for the little guy.  obama wants to cut the oil subsidies 2 bil (out of the 20 bil they're earning) and broke repubs are screaming about the injustice of it.  Oh brother.

You must think I was.exaggerating those profit numbers. I wasn't. It's a business, did you want them to make no profit? Because their almost at that now.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: 240 is Back on May 03, 2012, 07:03:19 AM
You must think I was.exaggerating those profit numbers. I wasn't. It's a business, did you want them to make no profit? Because their almost at that now.

oil companies are at almost no profit now?

Let's look at that.  quarter 1, 2011:
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: 240 is Back on May 03, 2012, 07:08:34 AM
Joe, check out this chart - you'll see a small reduciton in profits from 2011 to 2012.

But before you blame obama for it - look at the average CEO pay going up 55 PERCENT IN ONE YEAR. 

Of course profits are going to drop when you take that $ from shareholders and give it to mgmt.   what a huge increase for a single year.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: 240 is Back on May 03, 2012, 07:10:58 AM
BP's profits went from 7.1 billion to 5.9 billion.

But they TRIPLED their CEO's pay during this same span.

I don't see that as "almost no profit".   To me, it looks like they have some nice profits.  They just like to triple CEO pay in one year ;)
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: flipper5470 on May 03, 2012, 07:17:44 AM
"CEO pay" is a number without a context...did he earn a bonus based on company performance that vested in a given year....was he paid in stock...options...what is his base pay?  There are a number of variables that need to be accounted for...

Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: 240 is Back on May 03, 2012, 07:43:04 AM
"CEO pay" is a number without a context...did he earn a bonus based on company performance that vested in a given year....was he paid in stock...options...what is his base pay?  There are a number of variables that need to be accounted for...



http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/05/big_oil_kaching.html

most of them got 8 or 10 or 15 million dollar base pay raises in a single year.  Profits down some, but as Coach said they're almost at no profit now.  I disagree - they are making the greatest profits in this history of humanity every quarter. 
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: dr.chimps on May 03, 2012, 07:52:13 AM
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/05/big_oil_kaching.html

most of them got 8 or 10 or 15 million dollar base pay raises in a single year.  Profits down some, but as Coach said they're almost at no profit now.  I disagree - they are making the greatest profits in this history of humanity every quarter. 
Couple of weeks ago, The Economist noted that corporate profit margins were at a 67-year high. 
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2012, 08:04:09 AM
oil companies are at almost no profit now?

Let's look at that.  quarter 1, 2011:

Good for them. The profit margins are SMALL. It's a business and businesses are ENTITLED to make profits no matter how small or big they are. 4 cents on the dollar (and that includes about a 50% increase) isn't that big in comparison. Geez. Yes Rob, not much of a profit compared to overhead and corporate costs.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: thelamefalsehood on May 03, 2012, 08:49:09 AM
Great post!  Romney has nothing in common with 99% or more of the people in the US other than that he is a human.  Other than that, the guy wasn't brought up like you were, didn't work like you did, didn't pay taxes like you did, they guy is a complete joke, and has no charisma to boot.  Total hack!



Yes, lets all listen to the homo pictured below. He looks like he has the best interests of our country in mind.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2012, 09:30:35 AM
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/05/big_oil_kaching.html

most of them got 8 or 10 or 15 million dollar base pay raises in a single year.  Profits down some, but as Coach said they're almost at no profit now.  I disagree - they are making the greatest profits in this history of humanity every quarter. 

Lets take a look at that link you provided. Almost anything with the words "Progress" or "Progressive" in it's title is sure to be a faaar left-wing rag full of inaccuracies and BS. "Progressive" Insurance is a company with Soros written all over it as an example.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: garebear on May 03, 2012, 09:33:31 AM
Lets take a look at that link you provided. Almost anything with the words "Progress" or "Progressive" in it's title is sure to be a faaar left-wing rag full of inaccuracies and BS. "Progressive" Insurance is a company with Soros written all over it as an example.
Are you against minimum wage?

Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2012, 09:39:04 AM
Are you against minimum wage?



Are you against small business making a profit?
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: reppingfor20 on May 03, 2012, 09:42:35 AM
Good for them. The profit margins are SMALL. It's a business and businesses are ENTITLED to make profits no matter how small or big they are. 4 cents on the dollar (and that includes about a 50% increase) isn't that big in comparison. Geez. Yes Rob, not much of a profit compared to overhead and corporate costs.

blah blah blah, same old capitalist elitist GOP bullshit.  You are the 1%, shame shame shame on you!

Are you against small business making a profit?

No, but I am against a small business deceiving for profit, 500$ + a month for a gym membership, get out of here!



Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2012, 09:46:32 AM
blah blah blah, same old capitalist elitist GOP bullshit.  You are the 1%, shame shame shame on you!

No, but I am against a small business deceiving for profit, 500$ + a month for a gym membership, get out of here!





Fuck off freeloader. Thought you would have been gone by now. Maybe you think the government should tell me how much I should charge and shouldn't. Stay out of political discussions, you get owned more than Benny.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: garebear on May 03, 2012, 09:47:58 AM
Are you against small business making a profit?
No. Are you against minimum wage?

Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2012, 09:54:23 AM
No. Are you against minimum wage?



It's a direct correlation. If the government continues to keep raising minimum wage it kills small business by having them raise prices on products, in turn the higher prices (depending on the product or service) will drive away business, force layoffs and eventually drive them out of business. I'm all for people making a living wage but when the government forces a certain minimum set amount that kills business, it's not right.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2012, 10:03:15 AM
Are you against minimum wage?



Yes.  Minimum wage laws do far more damage than good. 
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: reppingfor20 on May 03, 2012, 10:06:25 AM
Fuck off freeloader. Thought you would have been gone by now. Maybe you think the government should tell me how much I should charge and shouldn't. Stay out of political discussions, you get owned more than Benny.

Here comes the name calling :)  Yes the government should tell you or it should set a red flag.  If Walmart starts selling batteries at 100$ per 10 pack, I am sure the fed's would be looking into it.  There is a line that is crossed between overcharging and just plain deceiving, false promises, and over profiting.

Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2012, 10:08:04 AM
Here comes the name calling :)  Yes the government should tell you or it should set a red flag.  If Walmart starts selling batteries at 100$ per 10 pack, I am sure the fed's would be looking into it.  There is a line that is crossed between overcharging and just plain deceiving, false promises, and over profiting.




Spoken like a true communist piece of trash who should be doused in pigs blood and set ablaze.   
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: reppingfor20 on May 03, 2012, 10:08:09 AM
It's a direct correlation. If the government continues to keep raising minimum wage it kills small business by having them raise prices on products, in turn the higher prices (depending on the product or service) will drive away business, force layoffs and eventually drive them out of business. I'm all for people making a living wage but when the government forces a certain minimum set amount that kills business, it's not right.

Yeah, don't raise minimum wage according to inflation that is just plain nonsense!  These people need to start learning how to live in cardboard boxes because their minimum wage isn't buying what it use to.  Wow real thorough thinking.  Yes minimum wage needs to be raised when inflation occurs.

Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2012, 10:11:57 AM
Yeah, don't raise minimum wage according to inflation that is just plain nonsense!  These people need to start learning how to live in cardboard boxes because their minimum wage isn't buying what it use to.  Wow real thorough thinking.  Yes minimum wage needs to be raised when inflation occurs.



You fukkin idiot. Just quit posting, you're making even more of an ass out of yourself.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: reppingfor20 on May 03, 2012, 10:12:18 AM

Spoken like a true communist piece of trash who should be doused in pigs blood and set ablaze.    

LOL name calling, no argument even.  Yes we need laws on the books to protect the consumer, once one company starts charging 100$ for batteries, all the other evil corporations will hop on board, before you know it, all batteries no matter what the brand will be selling at between 90 - 100 $ per 10 pack, it's called price fixing.  You are a traitor to our great country you greedy man.

You fukkin idiot. Just quit posting, you're making even more of an ass out of yourself.

More name calling, why bother to have a discussion on the matter when you can just act like a 10 year old and call people names ?  ;D

I see a trend, when greedy GOP elitist have no counter point or good reply, they just call people names, seems to happen all the time, Democrats have evolved, GOP are still like cavemen.

Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2012, 10:14:01 AM
LOL name calling, no argument even.  Yes we need laws on the books to protect the consumer, once one company starts charging 100$ for batteries, all the other evil corporations will hop on board, before you know it, all batteries no matter what the brand will be selling at between 90 - 100 $ per 10 pack, it's called price fixing.  You are a traitor to our great country you greedy man.



Go away idiot.  you have a mentality from the third world like that ghetto piece of trash obama and his thug of a wife.     
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: reppingfor20 on May 03, 2012, 10:15:52 AM
Go away idiot.  you have a mentality from the third world like that ghetto piece of trash obama and his thug of a wife.     

more name calling, care to post something of substance or just keep showing how low your IQ is?

Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2012, 10:16:47 AM
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2012, 10:17:19 AM
LOL name calling, no argument even.  Yes we need laws on the books to protect the consumer, once one company starts charging 100$ for batteries, all the other evil corporations will hop on board, before you know it, all batteries no matter what the brand will be selling at between 90 - 100 $ per 10 pack, it's called price fixing.  You are a traitor to our great country you greedy man.

More name calling, why bother to have a discussion on the matter when you can just act like a 10 year old and call people names ?  ;D

I can't have discussions with people who have 1. no commonsense and 2. Doesn't know the basics of business.

How you feel when Obama's wife takes $500,000 vacations on our $$?
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: garebear on May 03, 2012, 10:19:26 AM
Yes.  Minimum wage laws do far more damage than good. 
This post more than any proves that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Grape Ape on May 03, 2012, 10:20:24 AM
No, but I am against a small business deceiving for profit, 500$ + a month for a gym membership, get out of here!

The responsibility for this is on the consumer.   Nobody makes them join.

If they do and they feel it's beneficial, then the price is fine, as there is obviously a market for it.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2012, 10:21:46 AM
This post more than any proves that you have no idea what you're talking about.

LOL.   Why not make the minimum wage 50 an hour? 
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: reppingfor20 on May 03, 2012, 10:24:34 AM
I can't have discussions with people who have 1. no commonsense and 2. Doesn't know the basics of business.

How you feel when Obama's wife takes $500,000 vacations on our $$?

Deflection, sorry we have a topic we are discussing, and by the way, the Bush's took the same kind of trips, just like all the other presidents and their wives, so your talking point carries no weight.

I have to go do some work now, I'll check back later and see if anybody posts some intelligent counter points in this discussion or just continues to name call and give excuses why they won't answer.

Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2012, 10:25:09 AM
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2012, 11:16:31 AM
Deflection, sorry we have a topic we are discussing, and by the way, the Bush's took the same kind of trips, just like all the other presidents and their wives, so your talking point carries no weight.

I have to go do some work now, I'll check back later and see if anybody posts some intelligent counter points in this discussion or just continues to name call and give excuses why they won't answer.



Hahaha, sure you do.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: calfzilla on May 03, 2012, 11:53:55 AM
Lol the federal minimum wage in the US is so low that if a "small business" can't afford to pay it they should not even be in business. Funny how the Republicans have been brainwashed into thinking people on min wage are rolling in the dough. For fucks sake do they want people to work for free?  Any less pay and people will decide to stay home and not work...maybe welfare would be more profitable.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2012, 11:58:49 AM
Lol the federal minimum wage in the US is so low that if a "small business" can't afford to pay it they should not even be in business. Funny how the Republicans have been brainwashed into thinking people on min wage are rolling in the dough. For fucks sake do they want people to work for free?  Any less pay and people will decide to stay home and not work...maybe welfare would be more profitable.

 ::)

Why not make minimum wage 50 an hour? 
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: calfzilla on May 03, 2012, 12:02:01 PM
::)

Why not make minimum wage 50 an hour? 

Why thats just obscene sir.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2012, 12:03:45 PM
Why thats just obscene sir.

How about 25?
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: calfzilla on May 03, 2012, 12:07:16 PM
Are you wealthy 3386?
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2012, 12:09:34 PM
Are you wealthy 3386?

No, but I believe in capitalism and think socialism is a failure and makes things worse. 

BTW - I'm self employed so this whole issue is academic for me at best. 

25 too high or no?
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: calfzilla on May 03, 2012, 12:24:45 PM
Fact is rich are getting richer and poor getting poorer. So many poor republicans support policies that harm them simply because they think one day they might receive the benefits if they become wealthy but in reality very few ever will. Maybe I'm the minority because I don't desire to be super rich because I feel that once you are rich you are rich, but that's just a value I have. Like I tell my friends I have pretty much nothing but have everything I want. But back to min wage 25 is a lot, I think it should be enough for a person to live off of frugally. I know I wouldn't want to live off of 8.50 an hour.

Just my opinions, now can we get back to talking about oiled up men in thongs, that's what's really important here.

Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2012, 12:25:48 PM
Fact is rich are getting richer and poor getting poorer. So many poor republicans support policies that harm them simply because they think one day they might receive the benefits if they become wealthy but in reality very few ever will. Maybe I'm the minority because I don't desire to be super rich because I feel that once you are rich you are rich, but that's just a value I have. Like I tell my friends I have pretty much nothing but have everything I want. But back to min wage 25 is a lot, I think it should be enough for a person to live off of frugally. I know I wouldn't want to live off of 8.50 an hour.

Just my opinions, now can we get back to talking about oiled up men in thongs, that's what's really important here.



We dont have capitalism in any sense.   We have cronyism,. quasi socialism, etc. 
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: calfzilla on May 03, 2012, 12:29:58 PM
We dont have capitalism in any sense.   We have cronyism,. quasi socialism, etc. 

Yes. Essentially any system with ANY tax is dabbling in socialism.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: reppingfor20 on May 03, 2012, 09:03:01 PM
There is no point in striving to become rich, it is pointless, you cannot take it to the grave with you and when you die, people will not remember you for being so rich and cool, they will remember you for being obsessed with money and never having anytime for people.

Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2012, 09:04:43 PM
Yes. Essentially any system with ANY tax is dabbling in socialism.

I don't believe in income tax.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2012, 09:11:54 PM
Fact is rich are getting richer and poor getting poorer. So many poor republicans support policies that harm them simply because they think one day they might receive the benefits if they become wealthy but in reality very few ever will. Maybe I'm the minority because I don't desire to be super rich because I feel that once you are rich you are rich, but that's just a value I have. Like I tell my friends I have pretty much nothing but have everything I want. But back to min wage 25 is a lot, I think it should be enough for a person to live off of frugally. I know I wouldn't want to live off of 8.50 an hour.

Just my opinions, now can we get back to talking about oiled up men in thongs, that's what's really important here.



Fact is both have a choice.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: calfzilla on May 03, 2012, 09:33:35 PM
I don't believe in income tax.

I don't like it either my friend. I feel a consumption tax would be better. Maybe with some subsidy for poor people.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: calfzilla on May 03, 2012, 09:35:54 PM
There is no point in striving to become rich, it is pointless, you cannot take it to the grave with you and when you die, people will not remember you for being so rich and cool, they will remember you for being obsessed with money and never having anytime for people.



Good point Jtsunami.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2012, 09:56:11 PM
Good point Jtsunami.

Oh...but in the mean time you have no problem living off the rich. Haha, fucking liberal thinking is sooo delusional. Lol
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: MM2K on May 04, 2012, 03:06:33 AM
What sort of fucking emotional part of your brains makes you think that you can just create money out of thin air?? The minimum wage does nothing but cause higher unemployment for young unskilled people and/or contribute to inflation. Try opening a fucking economics book.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: garebear on May 04, 2012, 03:14:04 AM
What sort of fucking emotional part of your brains makes you think that you can just create money out of thin air?? The minimum wage does nothing but cause higher unemployment for young unskilled people and/or contribute to inflation. Try opening a fucking economics book.
Fuck it. Let's pull out all the stops.

Let's bring back slavery and child labor. We don't need big government telling us how to run our lives.

The invisible hand of the free market will correct everything. It worked in the past.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: MM2K on May 04, 2012, 03:16:07 AM
Oh by the way, that Alynskite Bitch in the video. Remember when she mentioned clean energy jobs that were saved? How many jobs? $535 million worth of jobs? No, that was the loan that was made to Solyndra, which went bankrupt.
Title: Re: Get the facts on Mitt Romney, Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers
Post by: MM2K on May 04, 2012, 03:19:51 AM
Fuck it. Let's pull out all the stops.

Let's bring back slavery and child labor. We don't need big government telling us how to run our lives.

The invisible hand of the free market will correct everything. It worked in the past.

Um, where did I mention slavery? This verbal inflation that you liberals engage in makes you seem like overly sensual children. You really should stop it. Child labor? You do not that kids arent working in factories anymore right? Besides, nobody is calling for the stopping of regulations. But trying to tell a business how much he can pay a worker when that business knows much better what that worker is worth is a regulation that does not make any sense to make.