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Title: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: jephrius on May 04, 2012, 12:20:32 PM
In my opinion:
1. Shawn Ray

2. Lee Priest

3. Bob Chiccerillo



Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Tito24 on May 04, 2012, 12:23:08 PM
jay culter


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: SquatsRule on May 04, 2012, 12:32:44 PM
How was Chick over rated? It took him years to turn pro and his best win was at the Masters unless I'm forgetting something.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: BayGBM on May 04, 2012, 12:43:14 PM
How was Chick over rated? It took him years to turn pro and his best win was at the Masters unless I'm forgetting something.

x2.  He never rated so he was certainly never overrated.  ::)


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: No Patience on May 04, 2012, 12:48:00 PM
Shawn Ray? He is a tool but as far as bodybuiding, he was damn near perfection

Lee Priest? I wouldn't say overrated.

Bob? Overrated by what standards? He was not perfect but i don't remember him dominating contests, so how the fuck is he overrated.

I think you are fucking retarded.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: G_Thang on May 04, 2012, 01:04:01 PM
jay culter

physique is joke when you compare it to haney, yates, coleman and even heath.   4-2 as Mr O but should be 3-3, given Heath clearly beat him in 2010.  the judging criteria was changed to facilitate his wins. how did a quad flex become the standard for MrO over a great back  ???

(http://jbtlabs.com/bodybuilding/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Jay-Cutler-4.jpg)


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Raymondo on May 04, 2012, 01:23:56 PM
Cutler. Massively overrated. The guy only amassed so many wins because of politics.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: doriancutlerman on May 04, 2012, 01:29:46 PM
In my opinion:
1. Shawn Ray

2. Lee Priest

3. Bob Chiccerillo

How so?

Shawn was damned near perfect at his best.  Priest could be freaky as hell and Bob had a good physique when he was in shape. 


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Bevo on May 04, 2012, 01:33:25 PM
physique is joke when you compare it to haney, yates, coleman and even heath.   4-2 as Mr O but should be 3-3, given Heath clearly beat him in 2010.  the judging criteria was changed to facilitate his wins. how did a quad flex become the standard for MrO over a great back  ???

(http://jbtlabs.com/bodybuilding/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Jay-Cutler-4.jpg)



Hahaha almost every post you made lately showing your hatred toward jay. Is there something?


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: King_Raisin on May 04, 2012, 01:33:47 PM
Orville Burke...strange looking physique with a weird gut, yet was regularly beating a prime Dexter Jackson


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Bevo on May 04, 2012, 01:35:38 PM
You want overrated it's Flex oilbag wheeler!!!  ::)

More gifts than anyone yet cant even win the olympia, lazy, arrogant, bber..


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on May 04, 2012, 01:51:55 PM
You want overrated it's Flex oilbag wheeler!!!  ::)

More gifts than anyone yet cant even win the olympia, lazy, arrogant, bber..

This. I fucking hate Flex. He had 1 or 2 good shots taken of him during his career.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: JasonH on May 04, 2012, 01:53:53 PM
Down Hill has to be there surely. 



Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: wes on May 04, 2012, 02:02:52 PM
In my opinion:
1. Shawn Ray

2. Lee Priest

3. Bob Chiccerillo


::)


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Parker on May 04, 2012, 02:06:07 PM
You want overrated it's Flex oilbag wheeler!!!  ::)

More gifts than anyone yet cant even win the olympia, lazy, arrogant, bber..
Yet you ask the top guys about Flex---and they'd disagree.
He was never over-rated due to not winning the O, using that logic, so was Shawn and Kevin.
And lazy, well he could have put more effort into the 98 O. Arrogant---so are most bbers.



Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: _bruce_ on May 04, 2012, 02:07:54 PM
In my opinion:
1. Shawn Ray

2. Lee Priest

3. Bob Chiccerillo



3 of the best.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: che on May 04, 2012, 02:09:14 PM
End of the thread

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Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Bevo on May 04, 2012, 02:15:56 PM
Yet you ask the top guys about Flex---and they'd disagree.
He was never over-rated due to not winning the O, using that logic, so was Shawn and Kevin.
And lazy, well he could have put more effort into the 98 O. Arrogant---so are most bbers.




Sorry to insult your hero ::) kev, ray were all better what I meant was the Olympia was practically handed to him, yet he didn't get the job done. Chris clearly beat him in 99

Most pros at one point use oil. Synthol whatever u want to call it bu Nasser and flex took it to another level.. Plus flex had one good year arguebly 93, that's it!


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Parker on May 04, 2012, 02:32:36 PM

Sorry to insult your hero ::) kev, ray were all better what I meant was the Olympia was practically handed to him, yet he didn't get the job done. Chris clearly beat him in 99

Most pros at one point use oil. Synthol whatever u want to call it bu Nasser and flex took it to another level.. Plus flex had one good year arguebly 93, that's it!
Actually, you didn't insult him, you never made an argument...
Flex's best years-93, 97,98, and one can include 99 and 2000, but I won't because he went to far with the oil...Flex had a issue after his 94 car accident. And he came back from breaking his neck in two places to win the 95 Ironman and come 2nd at that yr's Arnold. That's a feat in itself...but, Flex was broken...and instead of taking incremental jumps in weight later on, he tried to play Ronnie's game, and Chad encouraged him...Flex doesn't/didn't have the bone structure for it. Plus, he mentally didn't think he could win, sabotaging himself...
If anything, he needed a life coach...his best Pro yr was 93, and like Phil and many others (Branch) his best look was his Rookie look. His best two yrs was 92 and 93.
Chris had his issue with Flex, he said he couldn't get past---or beat Flex's mystique...this was said at the 2000 Arnold---Flex won, Chris was second...Chris was just coming into his own...and he is another one---partying, drugs, he could have won the Arnold in 2000. And when he lost to Jay twice...


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: disco_stu on May 04, 2012, 02:34:27 PM
In my opinion:
1. Shawn Ray

2. Lee Priest

3. Bob Chiccerillo



agree with the first one..

how people dont see his blocky legs, his less than average biceps, and lack of pec thickness is beyond me.

he has two great poses..back double bi and the most muscular..his side tris is good too..

but he's no levrone..not even close...

perfection?...hardly.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Parker on May 04, 2012, 02:39:38 PM
Melvin Anthony was over-rated, and wasted his potential


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: SF1900 on May 04, 2012, 02:52:07 PM
How is Lee Priest and Shawn overrated? YOure making it seem like they both won 10 Mr. Olympias.  Both were good in their times and held their own.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Bevo on May 04, 2012, 02:55:20 PM
Phil heath is better than Flex will ever be...


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: salt on May 04, 2012, 02:59:46 PM
1. Branch
2. Kai
3. Evan


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Hulkotron on May 04, 2012, 03:02:21 PM
John Falcon is top 3 underrated.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on May 04, 2012, 03:02:50 PM
How is Lee Priest and Shawn overrated? YOure making it seem like they both won 10 Mr. Olympias.  Both were good in their times and held their own.

Lee Priest should not be even called a bodybuilder. He's an armbuilder.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Hulkotron on May 04, 2012, 04:06:59 PM
Yes nobody below 5'9" counts anyway.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: The Ugly on May 04, 2012, 04:11:49 PM
Branch
War
Ren


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Hulkster on May 04, 2012, 04:22:42 PM
 8)
post tear dorian was right up there.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: massa on May 04, 2012, 04:32:59 PM
1. Flex Wheeler

2. Paul Dillet

3. Kevin English

If English mattered more in bodybuilding, he would be 1, 2 and three


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: johnny1 on May 04, 2012, 04:44:43 PM
8)
post tear dorian was right up there.
Well gee there's a Surprise ::) always good to see your Dialog and Vocabulary with Yates is expanding though time


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: david94 on May 04, 2012, 04:48:37 PM
Kevin English
Branch Warren
Sergio Olivia (best genetic my ass)


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: chess315 on May 04, 2012, 04:51:20 PM
Kevin English
Branch Warren
Sergio Olivia (best genetic my ass)
sergio olivia my ass lol how can you compare him to branch or english


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: jude2 on May 04, 2012, 05:05:39 PM
Yes nobody below 5'9" counts anyway.
There goes 95% of them.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: johnny1 on May 04, 2012, 05:07:31 PM
Kevin English
Branch Warren
Sergio Olivia (best genetic my ass)
3 Mr Olympias, Mr Universe, Mr World, and Arguably the Best Genetics of his Era, and ether 1st or 2nd Best BBer of his Generation give or take a O or too, Over rated? we are all ears...


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: david94 on May 04, 2012, 05:15:24 PM
sergio olivia my ass lol how can you compare him to branch or english

He looks like a bodybuilder contrary to them but he is still one of the most overrated bodybuilder ever. He really doesn't deserve so much praise as he is far from having perfect genetic. He was lucky to compete during a weak area, not really cause of the poor level, but cause of the lack of competitors as bodybuiding was not developped yet. Put him against guys from the 90s or 2000s and you will realize how many weak points he had against guys like Flex, Haney, Coleman, Cormier, Dexter etc...


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: The Ugly on May 04, 2012, 05:19:03 PM
Put him against guys from the 90s or 2000s and you will realize how many weak points he had against guys like Flex, Haney, Coleman, Cormier, Dexter etc...

Nobody from his era coulda competed with those guys. Better chemistry.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: david94 on May 04, 2012, 05:20:36 PM
3 Mr Olympias, Mr Universe, Mr World, and Arguably the Best Genetics of his Era, and ether 1st or 2nd Best BBer of his Generation give or take a O or too, Over rated? we are all ears...

What do you want to demonstrate? Kevin English has 2 or 3 Mr 202 Olympias, Warren has 2 Arnold classic titles. ???

Best genetic of his era?
First, not better than Arnold himself.
Second, being Mr Olympia against no more than 5 or 6 competitors means nothing.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: david94 on May 04, 2012, 05:25:22 PM
Nobody from his era coulda competed with those guys. Better chemistry.

You can imagine how he would have looked with modern drugs just in basing on his structure and muscles insertion or length.

The fact is that he has a very small structure next to big guys like Arnold and not the best muscle separation. He was one of the less lean on stage which is more an handicap today etc...


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: johnny1 on May 04, 2012, 05:35:55 PM
What do you want to demonstrate? Kevin English has 2 or 3 Mr 202 Olympias, Warren has 2 Arnold classic titles. ???

Best genetic of his era?
First, not better than Arnold himself.
Second, being Mr Olympia against no more than 5 or 6 competitors means nothing.
1st Never said he was "better" than Arnold note i said 1st or 2ND BEST of his era, 2nd Arnold was "winning Mr O AGAINST 5 or 6 in his Prime in the 70s, so i guess That Means nothing as well, you are Comparing Sergio (it seems) because he wasn't that Conditioned he would fall face down against todays BBers....of course he would....and heres a news flash and so would Arnold and Anyone else from the 60s and 70s just how the "standards" and Criteria is these days, the point or should i say the Title of the Thread is TOP 3 Overrated BBers....You still havnt explained WHY exactly Sergio is in the Top 3 OVER-RATED BBers


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: david94 on May 04, 2012, 06:06:00 PM
1st Never said he was "better" than Arnold note i said 1st or 2ND BEST of his era, 2nd Arnold was "winning Mr O AGAINST 5 or 6 in his Prime in the 70s, so i guess That Means nothing as well, you are Comparing Sergio (it seems) because he wasn't that Conditioned he would fall face down against todays BBers....of course he would....and heres a news flash and so would Arnold and Anyone else from the 60s and 70s just how the "standards" and Criteria is these days, the point or should i say the Title of the Thread is TOP 3 Overrated BBers....You still havnt explained WHY exactly Sergio is in the Top 3 OVER-RATED BBers

You said he had the best genetic of his era. Sorry Arnold had much better genetic. Sergio at his best in 92 was beaten by Arnold who didn't even reached his full potential so no, he didn't had the best genetic.

For the rest, yes criteria has changed, as mass is not the main criteria anymore otherwise shitty guys like Martin kjellstrom or Markus Rulh would be Mr Olympia. So he would actualy have more chance to win.

And when I say overrated I don't target judges. He probably deserves his titles and I don't really care about that as beating 5 or 6 guys doesn't mean big deal.
He is overrated by bodybuilding fans, most overrated ever and you are the first one who contribute to make me think that.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: johnny1 on May 04, 2012, 06:33:54 PM
You said he had the best genetic of his era. Sorry Arnold had much better genetic. Sergio at his best in 92 was beaten by Arnold who didn't even reached his full potential so no, he didn't had the best genetic.

For the rest, yes criteria has changed, as mass is not the main criteria anymore otherwise shitty guys like Martin kjellstrom or Markus Rulh would be Mr Olympia. So he would actualy have more chance to win.

And when I say overrated I don't target judges. He probably deserves his titles and I don't really care about that as beating 5 or 6 guys doesn't mean big deal.
He is overrated by bodybuilding fans, most overrated ever and you are the first one who contribute to make me think that.
Well No i said Sergio ARGUABLY had the Best Genetics of his ERA Not THE BEST Genetics, Sergio was in his Best Shape in 1972 not 92, and NO he would have NO CHANCE competing against Modern BBers in ANY SHAPE he was in the year 1972, as his Conditioning in that year would look Soft and smooth to the best nowadays, HOWEVER on todays Drugs yip why not, hed be bigger and his Conditioning would be Currant for the times.

Nothing to do with Judges, never said anything about Judges, you said you dont care about him beating 5 or 6 however you don't mention Arnold Had the Same Competition as Sergio...Low Numbers...and for the most part Inferior competition for the era, its you who are in the MINORITY when saying Sergio is over rated not me saying he's not, as you have probably noticed there hasnt been a stampede of Support for you in this thread agreeing on Sergio being in the Top 3 as a Over-rated BBer....or other threads here on the same subject key word being Minority.  


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on May 04, 2012, 06:44:50 PM
In my opinion:
1. Shawn Ray

2. Lee Priest

3. Bob Chiccerillo



branch, dennis


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: OTHstrong on May 04, 2012, 06:53:05 PM
physique is joke when you compare it to haney, yates, coleman and even heath.   4-2 as Mr O but should be 3-3, given Heath clearly beat him in 2010.  the judging criteria was changed to facilitate his wins. how did a quad flex become the standard for MrO over a great back  ???

(http://jbtlabs.com/bodybuilding/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Jay-Cutler-4.jpg)
I hate Jay's physique and yes he is overrated but no way did Phil beat him in 2010 no way, Jay looked like he outweighed him by at least 35 lb,.. in 2011 regardless what Phil weighed he gave the illusion of almost being the same size, clear winner in 2011 but not 2010

Most overated Branch,


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: mesmorph78 on May 04, 2012, 06:53:56 PM
Phil heath


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: The Ugly on May 04, 2012, 06:58:49 PM
Phil heath

No.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: IceCold on May 04, 2012, 08:46:43 PM
cormier...

not the biggest  or best conditioned in any show.

no freaky bodyparts.

good build...nothing special...



also include melvin and sergio samuel, labrada


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: IceCold on May 04, 2012, 08:51:21 PM
physique is joke when you compare it to haney, yates, coleman and even heath.   4-2 as Mr O but should be 3-3, given Heath clearly beat him in 2010.  the judging criteria was changed to facilitate his wins. how did a quad flex become the standard for MrO over a great back  ???

(http://jbtlabs.com/bodybuilding/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Jay-Cutler-4.jpg)


jay may be a bit overrated, but few would have beaten him with his 2009 form


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: bigjim on May 04, 2012, 08:52:48 PM
cormier...

not the biggest  or best conditioned in any show.

no freaky bodyparts.

good build...nothing special...



also include melvin and sergio samuel, labrada

Cormier is one of the most underrated bbers. Mr 2nd place like 6 times in a row. Do you even follow bodybuilding  ::)  


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: IceCold on May 04, 2012, 08:58:25 PM
Cormier is one of the most underrated bbers. Mr 2nd place like 6 times in a row. Do you even follow bodybuilding  ::)  

11 career wins

won noc, ironman, etc. and finished top 3 in the olympia

did well later in career against lesser competition...just like jay

great career...just don't think hes anything special

didn't beat the big boys of the 90s and wouldnt beat jay, heath, kai, or wolf


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: bigjim on May 04, 2012, 09:02:57 PM
11 career wins

won noc, ironman, etc. and finished top 3 in the olympia

did well later in career against lesser competition...just like jay

great career...just don't think hes anything special

Fair call sir


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: IceCold on May 04, 2012, 09:06:16 PM
Fair call sir

I think cormier is a bit overated, but not top three overated


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: bigjim on May 04, 2012, 09:11:34 PM
Moe El Moussawi, top 10 Olympia mr arse, I guess having family in high places helps.  :-\

Stan Effingham, I dont give a fuck he was a powerlifter hes a shit bber

Kevin English for beating Flex Lewis at the 202, Gaspari should have coughed up more money.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: howardroark on May 04, 2012, 09:22:49 PM
1. Arnold
2. Kai Greene
3. Branch Warren


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Meso_z on May 04, 2012, 09:29:21 PM
Dexter Jackson.

Warren.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: alnassak on May 04, 2012, 10:45:54 PM
1st Dorian Yates  (No one beat him for that title)

2nd Jay Cutler  (Lots of gifts)

3rd Kevin English & Branch Warren (Some nice gifts)


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: bigjim on May 04, 2012, 10:52:12 PM
1st Dorian Yates  (No one beat him for that title)

2nd Jay Cutler  (Lots of gifts)

3rd Kevin English & Branch Warren (Some nice gifts)


Yates really, maybe towards the end he was gifted a couple of wins but he brough a new level of size and conditioning to the game, but I wouldnt call him over rated.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Arnold jr on May 05, 2012, 01:12:14 AM
He looks like a bodybuilder contrary to them but he is still one of the most overrated bodybuilder ever. He really doesn't deserve so much praise as he is far from having perfect genetic. He was lucky to compete during a weak area, not really cause of the poor level, but cause of the lack of competitors as bodybuiding was not developped yet. Put him against guys from the 90s or 2000s and you will realize how many weak points he had against guys like Flex, Haney, Coleman, Cormier, Dexter etc...

I've heard guys say this kind of thing numerous times, that the guys from the 70's couldn't compete with the modern day lineups from the 90's on.

That's a hard statement to make...sure, guys like Arnold and Sergio could never stand up as they were then with the guys now, not even close, but bring them to the same era and they'd be doing the same things the guys now are doing. They'd be using more hormones, eating very differently, not training 122hrs per wk, and getting much leaner with less water. You'd have an even bigger and better Arnold.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Anglo on May 05, 2012, 02:57:11 AM
1st Dorian Yates  (No one beat him for that title)

2nd Jay Cutler  (Lots of gifts)

3rd Kevin English & Branch Warren (Some nice gifts)


We have a winner :-\


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: RocketSwitch625 on May 05, 2012, 03:26:07 AM
1st Dorian Yates  (No one beat him for that title)

2nd Jay Cutler  (Lots of gifts)

3rd Kevin English & Branch Warren (Some nice gifts)


Haha how can you call this physique overrated and he's not even in contest shape here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Aj79p_pV_8


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: DK II on May 05, 2012, 03:38:23 AM
1. Branch
2. Jason Cutler
3. Kai Greene


King Kamali get a honorific mention.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: DK II on May 05, 2012, 03:39:58 AM
(http://npcnewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/IMG_1169.jpg)


Sorry let me rephrase.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Ronnie Rep on May 05, 2012, 06:49:41 AM
End of the thread

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(http://goldenmuscles.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Branch-Warren-20121.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SwezgXGttUI/AAAAAAAACk4/FOPDyNcRglM/s1600/Ronnie+Backstage+at+the+2002+IFBB+Mr.+Olympia.JPG)
x2!


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: deceiver on May 05, 2012, 06:55:58 AM
Overrated:

1. Branch Warren
2. Jose Raymond
3. Jay Cutler

honourable mention: Brandon Curry

Underrated:

1. Kevin Levrone (should have won Olympia)
2. Victor Martinez (should have won Olympia)
3. Edgar Fletcher (what the hell happened to him)

honourable mention: Nasser


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Karpaasi on May 05, 2012, 08:18:03 AM
Kevin Levrone underrated? I quess everyone is underrated then... The guy was a star his whole career and he's not forgotten. All the big names of 90s are not underrated. You could make a case of Chris Cormier but then again he excelled only in one ocation and got beat by the same guys year after year.





Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: French on May 05, 2012, 10:27:26 AM
Underrated


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: DK II on May 05, 2012, 03:41:54 PM
Underrated

bwahahah, he needs a ladder to reach the light switch.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 05, 2012, 04:09:01 PM
Mike Mentzer. He came in 5th in the 1980 Olympia but his fans think he should have won.   ::)   He lost the Universe twice. One to Robby Robinson and one to Kalman. Both times I believe they clearly beat him and again his fans and Mentzer thinks he should have won.  He entered the Olympia against Zane and he looked so smooth in comparison yet his fans think he should have won.

I will say this in the history of modern bodybuilding he was one of the most influential bodybuilders ever. Just a couple of things he brought back from the past or deviates from what was accepted.

1. Training the whole body three times a week.
2. He brought back rotation for recuperation from Frank Calta where body the body was trained three times a week but body parts got hit once or twice a week. So Monday was Thighs, Chest, and triceps. Wednesday was lats, delts and bicep. Friday you go back to Monday's routine.  Next week it's reversed so Wednesday's routine is Monday and Friday.
3. He said you can train a body part once a week. Radical stuff back then.
4. Said it's calories in and calories out that matter.
5. Actually said he used steroids.
6. During his prime he used aerobics heavily but then when he retired he was against it.
7. Said a bodybuilder should pursue strength gains.
8. Actually said bodybuilders lie about their arm size and told everyone what his arm size was when he weighed 225lbs. A true 20 inch arm is rare unless you weigh the same as a baby hippo.
9. Said Nautilus were the greatest machines ever made.

I will think of more later.
 



Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: jude2 on May 05, 2012, 04:15:48 PM
1. Arnold
2. Kai Greene
3. Branch Warren
Arnold, are u kidding ::)


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: johnny1 on May 05, 2012, 07:19:13 PM
Mike Mentzer. He came in 5th in the 1980 Olympia but his fans think he should have won.   ::)   He lost the Universe twice. One to Robby Robinson and one to Kalman. Both times I believe they clearly beat him and again his fans and Mentzer thinks he should have won.  He entered the Olympia against Zane and he looked so smooth in comparison yet he thinks he shold have won.

I will say this in the history of modern bodybuilding he was one of the most influential bodybuilders ever. Just a couple of things he brought back from the past.

1. Training the whole body three times a week.
2. He brought back rotation for recuperation from Frank Calta where body the body was trained three times a week but body parts got hit once or twice a week. So Monday was Thighs, Chest, and triceps. Wednesday was lats, delts and bicep. Friday you go back to Monday's routine.  Next week it's reversed so Wednesday's routine is Monday and Friday.
3. He said you can train a body part once a week.
4. Said it's calories in and calories out that matter.
5. Actually said he used steroids.
6. During his prime he used aerobics heavily but then when he retired he was against it.
7. Said a bodybuilder should pursue strength gains.
8. Actually said bodybuilders lie about their arm size and told everyone what his arm size was when he weighed 225lbs. A true 20 inch arm is rare unless you weigh the same as a baby hippo.
9. Said Nautilus were the greatest machines ever made.

I will think of more later.
 


Not sure if his Physique in itself was overrated, it was Very good when in Shape, and remember he was the first and only Person ever with a Perfect 300 in the Mr Universe way back in the late 70s when that sort of thing was a Big Deal, as for the 1980 O results... well sometimes you get the expressway to the top, other times you get the back road into the Ditch, for whatever reasons he never found a way out of it, Great Physique when in Shape, Mentality to handle things that didnt go his way Not so.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: haider on May 05, 2012, 07:30:49 PM
-King kamali's gotta be up there. Had a body structure of a frog by the end of his active career, really a physique hit hard by palumboism. He actually beat a near prime Wolf 4-5 yrs ago  :-X

-Jay Cutler... he was good, very good up until the early 2000s. Had a decent showing at his comeback O but his physique has aged and will never have the quality (circa 2001) that it once did.

-Branch Warren.. how the fuck has he placed top 3 olympia and won the arnold classic is beyond me. The judging criterion is completely fucked if you can win shows based purely on muscle mass and conditioning... because clearly you can have both and still look like utter dog shit on stage


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: silverback1984 on May 06, 2012, 08:39:26 AM
branch looks fucking terrible, physique is ruined


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: RocketSwitch625 on May 06, 2012, 10:09:06 AM
Underrated

The picture suggests a cross-dresser who likes playing with children's toys.


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=424613.0;attach=468832;image)


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: jude2 on May 06, 2012, 11:20:17 AM
The picture suggests a cross-dresser who likes playing with children's toys.


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=424613.0;attach=468832;image)
OR a Dad


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 06, 2012, 11:47:20 AM
Not sure if his Physique in itself was overrated, it was Very good when in Shape, and remember he was the first and only Person ever with a Perfect 300 in the Mr Universe way back in the late 70s when that sort of thing was a Big Deal, as for the 1980 O results... well sometimes you get the expressway to the top, other times you get the back road into the Ditch, for whatever reasons he never found a way out of it, Great Physique when in Shape, Mentality to handle things that didnt go his way Not so.
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I read my post and I now feel I shouldn't have even brought it up Mentzer as over rated. He was someone I followed closely back in the day and I read everything I could on training about him. Any article he wrote I ripped out a magazine and I put in a file. I might have the most complete Mike Mentzer article file anywhere. He was a great physique champion. His perfect 300 just reflects how subjective scoring is.  Maybe I'm wrong but I think that perfect 300 was when he won the Southern Cup not the Universe.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: BILL ANVIL on May 06, 2012, 07:15:36 PM
Warren


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: the_swami on May 06, 2012, 07:52:05 PM
1. dorian yates

2. dorian yates

3. jay cutler

1. shawn ray- are u fucking kidding?
shawn may be a world class douche bag but he had a great physique


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: DK II on May 07, 2012, 03:16:53 AM
OR a Dad


Shhhh, don't make it so simple and destory getbigger's homosexual fantasies in the same run.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: PJim on May 07, 2012, 05:37:28 AM
1. dorian yates

2. dorian yates


3. jay cutler

1. shawn ray- are u fucking kidding?
shawn may be a world class douche bag but he had a great physique

....


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: bigmikecox on May 07, 2012, 07:21:17 AM
1. Branch
2. Kai
3. Evan

RETARD!

I come here for the comedy.

Shawn Ray is one the the best bbers that lived!

Branch: may not have the prettiest physique, but 2 time ASC winner, 2nd place at the O

Kai: 2 time ASC champ...NYP x2....will probably be runner up at the O this fall


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: kimo on May 13, 2012, 06:46:16 AM
in many place we see male bodybuilders being smashed . why dont do the same with female bodybuilding . are those girls all so amazing ...


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: ChristopherA on May 13, 2012, 06:51:18 AM
RETARD!

I come here for the comedy.

Shawn Ray is one the the best bbers that lived!

Branch: may not have the prettiest physique, but 2 time ASC winner, 2nd place at the O

Kai: 2 time ASC champ...NYP x2....will probably be runner up at the O this fall
Get the fuck out of here. You think Branch is a good bb? No fucking way


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: OTHstrong on May 13, 2012, 07:57:23 AM
RETARD!

I come here for the comedy.

Shawn Ray is one the the best bbers that lived!

Branch: may not have the prettiest physique, but 2 time ASC winner, 2nd place at the O

Kai: 2 time ASC champ...NYP x2....will probably be runner up at the O this fall
The point of the thread is about guys that win shows who do not deserve to, hence overrated. Branch is a great bodybuilder in terms of credentials, but people are disgusted by his physique and 99% of getbiggers think he should be placing lower for having poor shape and no deep lines in his back, almost no detail.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 13, 2012, 09:12:11 AM
Overrated: Kai, Jay, Branch.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Jaime on May 13, 2012, 09:24:24 AM
Dorian

Ronnie

Cutler

Haney


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Shockwave on May 13, 2012, 10:31:50 AM
Overrated: Kai, Jay, Branch.
x2


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: MCWAY on May 13, 2012, 11:19:01 AM
3 Mr Olympias, Mr Universe, Mr World, and Arguably the Best Genetics of his Era, and ether 1st or 2nd Best BBer of his Generation give or take a O or too, Over rated? we are all ears...

Well, one of the Olympias he won unopposed. He lost to Bill Pearl at the '71 Universe and he also lost to Larry Scott at the Olympia.



Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: tommywishbone on May 13, 2012, 11:20:35 AM
Well, everyone thought this guy was 6'4" & 275 pounds, so perhaps he too was a bit over rated.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: The Grim Lifter on May 13, 2012, 03:12:19 PM
OR a Dad

who's married to a cross dresser


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: the_swami on May 13, 2012, 03:48:54 PM
Well, everyone thought this guy was 6'4" & 275 pounds, so perhaps he too was a bit over rated.

lol
who is that??


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: tommywishbone on May 13, 2012, 04:23:25 PM
lol
who is that??

That's Getbig's very own suckmymuscle. He has claimed; 6'4" tall, 280 pounds, 620 bench press, 5 different black belts, broke a german shepard's spine with his bare hands, etc, etc. 


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: PJim on May 13, 2012, 05:04:40 PM
I also don't think Mentzer's physique was overrated. If anything, it might be underrated. Politics had a lot to do with Mentzer's placings. Below are some contest pics. He had a great physique, owned signature poses, and could even pull off an impressive vacuum.



That second pic is insane


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Parker on May 13, 2012, 05:13:10 PM
11 career wins

won noc, ironman, etc. and finished top 3 in the olympia

did well later in career against lesser competition...just like jay

great career...just don't think hes anything special

didn't beat the big boys of the 90s and wouldnt beat jay, heath, kai, or wolf
If Phil Heath is beating Kai, Wolf...then Chris would...
He didn't beat Jay because Jay was being gifted Arnold Classics.
And as far as Chris beating lesser competitors, all the competitors he beat would beat Wolf, Branch.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: OTHstrong on May 13, 2012, 07:06:41 PM
That's Getbig's very own suckmymuscle. He has claimed; 6'4" tall, 280 pounds, 620 bench press, 5 different black belts, broke a german shepard's spine with his bare hands, etc, etc. 
I have been hearing this but is it just speculation or is it really confirmed that it is him and if so then how did you guys find out. Fuckman the lengths getbiggers will go through to own someone, geeeez :o ???


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Schmoff on May 13, 2012, 07:27:55 PM
Well, everyone thought this guy was 6'4" & 275 pounds, so perhaps he too was a bit over rated.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=424613.0;attach=469589;image)

shit, no way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


for real????????????


I'm laughing so fucking hard almost lost my breath



Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: jakesonyou on May 13, 2012, 08:51:54 PM
1st Dorian Yates  (No one beat him for that title)

2nd Jay Cutler  (Lots of gifts)

3rd Kevin English & Branch Warren (Some nice gifts)

LOL The GOAT overrated?   ::) give me a break please.

No one matched The GOAT's conditioning.  Year after year it was the same amazing conditioning.  Every single year he improved.  EVERY year.  The back got better every year.  Best back in the sport.  His posing routines were fantastic.  He put on a good show and no one cheered for others like they did for Dorian.

The most overrated bodybuilders are as follows.

1.)  Jay Cutler - one of the most disgusting physiques.  Tried to cheat his way last year with synthol.  Many on and off years and gifted Olympias.  Horrible conditioning, no back, poor definition, wide like a fridge, and a dwarf.

2.)  Ronald Coleman - 3 good showings his entire career.  1998, 1998, 2001 Arnold Classic.  The gut got bigger every single year.  The conditioning got worse every single year.  His posing routines were a joke.  He continues to shoot drugs and his body is decomposing.

3.)  Flex "Synthol" Wheeler - one superb showing - 1993.  After that he had very few good showings.  Excuses out the ass and poor conditioning.  Then he decided to cheat his way with synthol.  Made his physique look much worse and in the end he lost a kidney.  Total loser.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: kimo on June 06, 2012, 07:00:24 AM
how hard are you . try the same on women bodybuilders . find the overrated ones


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Dr Dutch on June 06, 2012, 12:28:38 PM
I think us getbiggers really overrate Down Hill.........






































 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Option D on June 06, 2012, 12:40:22 PM
Cormier is one of the most underrated bbers. Mr 2nd place like 6 times in a row. Do you even follow bodybuilding  ::)  

quited for absolute truth


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: wild willie on June 14, 2012, 07:11:48 AM
In my opinion:
1. Shawn Ray

2. Lee Priest

3. Bob Chiccerillo


Lee Priest was one hell of a bodybuilder.....Some of the best arms of all time......small waist....no gut.....very solid competitor.

Shawn is arguably one of the most complete and polished bodybuilders of all time.....extremely consistent as well......Fantastic presentation on stage.

Chick was a solid bodybuilder as well.

How are these guys overrated???



Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: wild willie on June 14, 2012, 07:14:40 AM
I also don't think Mentzer's physique was overrated. If anything, it might be underrated. Politics had a lot to do with Mentzer's placings. Below are some contest pics. He had a great physique, owned signature poses, and could even pull off an impressive vacuum.


Great post! I agree with what you are saying here.


Title: Re: Top 3 overrated bodybuilders
Post by: Figo on June 14, 2012, 10:13:19 AM
agree with the first one..

how people dont see his blocky legs, his less than average biceps, and lack of pec thickness is beyond me.

he has two great poses..back double bi and the most muscular..his side tris is good too..

but he's no levrone..not even close...

perfection?...hardly.


Shawn ray? Thin pecs? Great quads, best pose was side chest, also good fdb. Less than avg bis....?

Lol