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Title: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on May 11, 2012, 12:39:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWm0yoGh4cs


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 11, 2012, 12:49:49 PM
Those GTRs are beasts. 


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Da Freak on May 11, 2012, 12:55:01 PM
like Hank would say, motherfugger!


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on May 11, 2012, 01:18:42 PM
Those GTRs are beasts. 
theyre pretty fucking badass


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: ecto2meso on May 11, 2012, 02:53:40 PM
Dont think you can get a car with better performance than a GTR for the money, amazing cars!


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: bigjim on May 11, 2012, 03:15:00 PM
I remember in the early 90s when a GTS-t was the car to have. They use to be so fucking quick! I can only imaging what a suped up GTR would be like


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: ksa_triceps on May 11, 2012, 03:17:44 PM
Dont think you can get a car with better performance than a GTR for the money, amazing cars!

A Z06.

I'd say the GTR wins in interior (everything but comfort) and handling. The Z06 wins in feel, naturally aspirated roaring engine (subjective) and it gets you more attention if that is what you seek.



Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Shockwave on May 11, 2012, 03:58:41 PM
A Z06.

I'd say the GTR wins in interior (everything but comfort) and handling. The Z06 wins in feel, naturally aspirated roaring engine (subjective) and it gets you more attention if that is what you seek.


Id agree.
The new Corvette's are beasts, and the (relatively) new Gen3/4 LS small blocks are fucking monsters for what they are.
Mast and Edelbrock have a new canted valve LS head that flows well over 400cfm. Its pretty awesome.

Chevy really got it right with the LS design. I was a skeptic at 1st (back in 97), but they nailed it. Big Block Chevy will still rule for flat out power numbers, but the LS is a whole nother animal for its combo of size, efficiency, and power output.

The new high end Vette's truely are world class cars. (Z06 LS7 and ZR1 LS9 cars)


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Shockwave on May 11, 2012, 04:07:24 PM
yes, stock vs stock maybe.

but once theyre modified and if were talking stret tires, the gtr blows the z06 away.

flexible awd, superior gearbox, thats the downfall of the z06.
Id argue the other way around.
If youre talking modified, Id take the Z06 anyday, especially if you decide to put some sort of forced induction on it.
There is that just left my school (Automotive Race Engineering school) that owns a 1000hp Z06, and it was daily driven, with little more than a blower installed.
I dont know a whole lot about the GTR, but I know that AWD has a hard time standing up to 1000hp launches on sticky tires. And the gearbox in the Vette isnt a piece of shit either.


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: KrAng on May 11, 2012, 04:46:18 PM
yes, stock vs stock maybe.

but once theyre modified and if were talking stret tires, the gtr blows the z06 away.

flexible awd, superior gearbox, thats the downfall of the z06.

I have a gtr and on the street nothing really comes close.....
At drag strip a zr1 would be tough to beat but rear wheel drive guys ALWAYS have an excuse... Bad launch, tires too much air, track not prepped, missed a gear, etc.....
Gtr is consistent and that makes it tougher


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: 3Dkiller on May 11, 2012, 06:29:03 PM
GTr beats the Vette enough video's on youtube to see , dragtimes, m5boarddotcom.  Its technology vs a rear plastic car.


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Shockwave on May 11, 2012, 06:37:06 PM
I have a gtr and on the street nothing really comes close.....
At drag strip a zr1 would be tough to beat but rear wheel drive guys ALWAYS have an excuse... Bad launch, tires too much air, track not prepped, missed a gear, etc.....
Gtr is consistent and that makes it tougher
Those people arent really racers anyway, lots of people by cars like that for dick measuring purposes.


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Shockwave on May 11, 2012, 06:38:35 PM
GTr beats the Vette enough video's on youtube to see , dragtimes, m5boarddotcom.  Its technology vs a rear plastic car.
Wow, lol.
Yes, you can find video's backing up whatever you want.
Plastic car, brutal ignorance.


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on May 11, 2012, 09:27:24 PM
Wow, lol.
Yes, you can find video's backing up whatever you want.
Plastic car, brutal ignorance.

Actually the corvette has always been a plastic car. Polyester I believe.


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: 2ND COMING on May 11, 2012, 09:38:58 PM
Dont think you can get a car with better performance than a GTR for the money, amazing cars!

 SL-C ???


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: rotaryfan on May 11, 2012, 09:41:16 PM
The handling on the new GTR's is pretty incredible, (i was a passenger, wasn't driving it personally). I would think that a zr1 would be better on a quarter mile, but the gtr was built to race, not to do quarter mile. not really a fair comparison because these cars both have different niches in the automotive market, not really meant to compete with one another. Both are pretty amazing machines though. Personally I would buy a GTR if i had the money over a ZR1, but I really enjoy japanese style cars, (As my name shows).


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: littleboyblue on May 11, 2012, 10:27:42 PM
GTr beats the Vette enough video's on youtube to see , dragtimes, m5boarddotcom.  Its technology vs a rear plastic car.
Plastic, true, but the '96 GS90, built at Guldstrand Engineering in Culver City, Ca., built on the ZR-1, can still hold it's own against many of todays super cars.


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Bevo on May 11, 2012, 10:44:10 PM
Look up AMS tuning pretty much GTR modified is faster than corvettes... All wheel drive, duel clutch tranny cant be beat


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Bevo on May 11, 2012, 10:45:40 PM
A Z06.

I'd say the GTR wins in interior (everything but comfort) and handling. The Z06 wins in feel, naturally aspirated roaring engine (subjective) and it gets you more attention if that is what you seek.



I don't know where u are from but in the US gtr's get more attention than even porsches crazy following it has just ask the owners...


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Parker on May 11, 2012, 11:34:39 PM
 AWD with 690 hp and a single clutch SMG type tranny vs a tuned 700 hp with a Dual clutch tranny, GTR of course.


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: io856 on May 12, 2012, 12:34:02 AM
well der! watchu think a lambo can beat a gtr?  ::)


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: jarepeich on May 12, 2012, 01:24:23 AM
owner of that lambo can buy gtr, gtr owner probably not


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Parker on May 12, 2012, 02:53:07 AM
thats what i mean, for a perfect run with a rear wheel drive, you need slicks and everything perfect, and you will fry your clutch very soon.

in the gtr, you can have the bonestock tires on the street, even a half wet or cold street suface, and just go full out.

the gtr has that smart awd which is only in effect for the launch, after that it sitches to pretty much rwd, so it hasnt any top end power loss, like other awd cars.

and that with the best automatic gearbox(sennas son said this) and launch control, its simply very consistent.

there are videos out there of russian guys with the switzer 800 gtr, beating everything coming their way, including a hayabusa bike


that said, the new porsche turbo is maybe even more of a beast, especially when modified.that car does 0-60miles in 3 seconds bone stock.
due to the awd.
rwd cars cannot ever do 3seconds 0-60 on any street tires(not even the 800hp brabus with all electronic launch control etc), they take 3.5 seconds, and to make that up during say a 1/4mile is almost impossible at these levels.


Take a look at the 458, the Mclaren, Agera, Pagani Huarya, and Zonda 760 RS and the new F12---all RWD cars, all with Dual Clutches, that is what getting them to 3 secs and under...But, what is interestings is not the numbers, but they are not chasing top speed---leave it up to Bugatti. The other cars are chasing handling and balance. By not focusing on outright top speed, with lowered top speed and increased downforce---wihout using huge wings, and stripping away weight, they are creating cars that far more balanced, and are stripping away speeds that almost make the gains of AWD negliable...almost.


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: KrAng on May 12, 2012, 07:29:51 AM
youre right there, but still, and average driver will not get these numbers.while in an awd, everyone can get the manufacturers 0-60 on the street.its literaly stomping the gas pedal and wait, the car does the rest.while the cars mentioned above have a powerband wich restricts power down low and then explodes at upper rpm range, thats no fun for a daily driver, not to mention the cost.

the corvette community is asking for awd in the c7, even ferrari has now made an awd car.

i drive a powerfull german rwd car with all the electronic traction control etc, but even in good weather, the cpu takes out some power all the way through 1st and at the start of 2nd gear.
its very hard to get a proper launch in it.if you simply floor it while doing under 40mph, itll just break loose.



the power of 500hp and the torque that comes along with it is something people underestimate, in a showroom stock porsche turbo with awd, on an agressive launch, the tires will spin slightly, and porsche has a good rear/front weight ratio.

awd cars can have 500lbs feet torque straight after idle rpms and get perfect launches, making them awesome daily drivers.

just saying, rwd cars have still a way to go until they can compete in driveabilty and performance as far launches and daily driving are concerned.

all that said, a z06 and say a viper still have some unbeatable charme which a porsche lacks.

id have a viper or z06 before id get a gtr or awd porsche.

 8)


I agree with everything said... Awd is just better technology.... You will always have the rwd people say that it is a more pure driving experience but bottom line is Awd is better off launch,  you can exit turns faster, and when combined with a turbo, the modification possibilities are almost endless.... I live where elevation is 4000 ft above sea Level and trust me the naturally aspirated guys are at a HUGE disadvantage (corvette, viper, etc)


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: pluck on May 12, 2012, 08:55:38 AM
Badass vid...it's hilarious to see the lambo trying to keep up.

I drive a stock 911 996 and even with 320hp it's enough for me to have fun and at the same time to keep me out of trouble while daily driving.
I know a guy with a 911 turbo ...never been in it but I can't imagine over 500hp in such a small car.

These super cars like lambos...etc I really don't concern myself with even though they are badass because they are not daily drivers. They're more garage queens that come out during special occasions.

But anyone that has ever been in a Corvette with 800 horsepower while going 100 mph SIDEWAYS and tires spinning ....that feeling can not be duplicated. Pure muscle power awesomeness!


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: bigmc on May 12, 2012, 09:06:48 AM
a quick bike shits all over any car


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on May 12, 2012, 12:12:54 PM
a quick bike shits all over any car

as seen in the middle of this clip


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Shockwave on May 12, 2012, 12:35:46 PM
as seen in the middle of this clip
I think that goes without saying, power to weight ratio shits all over cars.
I dont know why people even bring bikes up when talking about cars.

Stupidity.


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: che on May 12, 2012, 12:57:11 PM
Lambo owned by Fiat 500


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCT_GjKcZ18


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Parker on May 12, 2012, 01:11:11 PM

I agree with everything said... Awd is just better technology.... You will always have the rwd people say that it is a more pure driving experience but bottom line is Awd is better off launch,  you can exit turns faster, and when combined with a turbo, the modification possibilities are almost endless.... I live where elevation is 4000 ft above sea Level and trust me the naturally aspirated guys are at a HUGE disadvantage (corvette, viper, etc)
The biggest problem with AWD systems is the weight, and that they can make an average driver look like a great driver, due to saving their asses with grip.

Was watching a commentary on the race at Spa (or maybe another recent race) with the new Audi R18 E-tron quattros vs the Audi R18 diesels, the E-tron quattros were great in the wet due to AWD (electric motors powering the front), but the RWD R18 diesel hybrids were quicker in the dry. Even Audi was confused.
Chris Harris and Tiff rail about the lack of feel in AWD cars, and love their RWD cars---Tiff used to race the Porsche 962s back in the day.

When I got the chance to drive the AWD RS4 it felt heavier (it is heavier) than the contemporary E46 M3---of course that engine hangs over the front nose. But, the drive and feel was not as lively as the M3---the grip was reassuring.
I haven't driven a GT-R, but I'm sure it would be great, and make a better daily driver than the E92 M3, in all weather scenarios.


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on May 12, 2012, 01:44:02 PM
Lambo owned by Fiat 500


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCT_GjKcZ18
;D


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Bevo on May 12, 2012, 03:10:02 PM
owner of that lambo can buy gtr, gtr owner probably not
::) go to 6 speed online.com most guys that have gtr's have or had turbo porsches and lambos and ferraris. Gtr is over 100k, even used gallardos can be had for 80k+ so your point is moot.. Know your facts before u spew useless info



Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Bevo on May 12, 2012, 03:14:06 PM
I personally know a couple of guys with gtr's who have had 900+ hp turbo porsches in the past and 1000hp ZO6's they all say if it's just making power and straight line speed the gtr is the way to go. Easier hp gains, awd, gearbox waaay better than vettes and porsches, only thing that they would trade for is TT lambo gallardo


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Bevo on May 12, 2012, 03:23:58 PM
Take a look at the 458, the Mclaren, Agera, Pagani Huarya, and Zonda 760 RS and the new F12---all RWD cars, all with Dual Clutches, that is what getting them to 3 secs and under...But, what is interestings is not the numbers, but they are not chasing top speed---leave it up to Bugatti. The other cars are chasing handling and balance. By not focusing on outright top speed, with lowered top speed and increased downforce---wihout using huge wings, and stripping away weight, they are creating cars that far more balanced, and are stripping away speeds that almost make the gains of AWD negliable...almost.

U sound like u get your info from car magazines, each line typed word for word lol. Like the guy who knows all the cars hp ratings down to size of tires but have no idea about tech stuff and why X car is different than Z car...


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Parker on May 12, 2012, 03:40:31 PM
U sound like u get your info from car magazines, each line typed word for word lol. Like the guy who knows all the cars hp ratings down to size of tires but have no idea about tech stuff and why X car is different than Z car...
I haven't read a mag in yrs. WastE of money, plus the info is outdated by the tine they hit the stands. Like do you still buy and read Flex or MD?
  I am a member of car forums. And I do hang out with some tuners on the weekends. Go to car shows, etc.
And if you read what I stated, the DCTs +AWD, plus hybrid drives are what are driving times lower. Couple with the fact that the marques are leaving top speed alone...something the "mags" haven't listed.
By lowering outright top speed, and going for added grip, whether it be by AWD (which is safer) or thru aero. Also, due to the fact that insane speeds are more acessiable to more people, adding AWD makes
 sense.
Pay attention next time---because I did mentin what was diff between X and Z car...Fairlady.


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Shockwave on May 12, 2012, 03:55:38 PM
U sound like u get your info from car magazines, each line typed word for word lol. Like the guy who knows all the cars hp ratings down to size of tires but have no idea about tech stuff and why X car is different than Z car...
And you sound like the guy that gets all his info from idiots on forums.


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Bevo on May 12, 2012, 03:57:58 PM
And you sound like the guy that gets all his info from idiots on forums.

Much more accurate like getting steroid info from gh15..


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Shockwave on May 12, 2012, 04:01:12 PM
Much more accurate like getting steroid info from gh15..
LOL, more bullshit on "car forums" that there are liars in the bodybuilding industry.

SAMracing.com (http://SAMracing.com)

Stop getting info from idiots on forums.


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Bevo on May 12, 2012, 04:18:33 PM
LOL, more bullshit on "car forums" that there are liars in the bodybuilding industry.

SAMracing.com (http://SAMracing.com)

Stop getting info from idiots on forums.

All jokes aside 6speedonline and AMS tuning is legit, look it up. I know some of the owners of those cars

Like any other topic/forums u just have to dwindle out the trolls, bs, and have some sort of common sense.. Cant believe people would take drug advices on forums but guess u have to sort out what is credible and what is bs :-\


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Bevo on May 12, 2012, 04:22:57 PM
yes this is true, but maintanance cost of the socalled supercars is much more expensive.

@all, heres something an awd cant do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlUEvRAa6XM

 :o

True but we just be talkin about buying the car up front which means a lot of people can. Maint. is a complete different story

Gtr maint isn't cheap by any means, much cheaper than exotics supercars for sure but not cheap I would say more than bmw's and the likes cause of the "gtr" nameplate.


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: che on May 12, 2012, 04:28:54 PM
Ferraris , Lambos, Porsches ....................... ::)


Last monday my beetle transmission took a shit PIP  :'(

(http://pics.hoobly.com/thumbs/JVIOHE3T2RMY2N1WM5.jpg)


Title: Re: Lambo owned by GTR ( both got owned by motorcycle)
Post by: Shockwave on May 12, 2012, 04:33:21 PM
Ferraris , Lambos, Porsches ....................... ::)


Last monday my beetle transmission took a shit PIP  :'(

(http://pics.hoobly.com/thumbs/JVIOHE3T2RMY2N1WM5.jpg)
NOOOOOSSSSSSS